The Brilliant Idiots - The Ep-Files

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

This week on Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne The God and Andrew Schulz dive into today’s wild political and cultural landscape. We’re unpacking everything from what it really means to be an adult in this chaotic world to the drama surrounding Trump, the Democratic Party, and the much-talked-about Epstein files. Expect real talk about why holding politicians accountable actually matters, how media shapes what we believe, and why foreign policy hits closer to home than most of us realize. We’ll get into the rise of younger Democrats, the messiness of identity politics, and what’s next for a fractured Democratic Party. Social media’s role in all this? Yeah, we go there too. Plus, we take a fun detour into pop culture—think DC Universe, Superman, and how media reflects who we are. If you’re curious, frustrated, or just want to understand the consequences of the choices our leaders make, this episode’s for you. It’s all about staying informed, questioning the narrative, and figuring out how we can actually make change happen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Shalaman Nogad. Andrew Shult. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. That's a Kyle Walker. Hello. If they say coffee, don't do nothing for you no more,

you should try cocaine. I'm trying so hard to not do that. You can't do it like you used to, man, because it got that fucking finty, fintinthol, you know what I'm saying? That Rihanna baby powder and that motherfucker that Rihanna make up fucking people up, man.

You gotta be careful. We're just kidding, kids. Don't do cocaine. Don't ever do fucking. Seriously, don't do it. No, seriously. I've never done cocaine. I've done it by accident

and a blunt back in the day. Oh, really? You smoked it? I didn't mean to, but, you know, I was in a... Just had the best high.

Somebody passed it around and I hit it. Now that I know what it is, I'm like, oh, shit, and plus that high that night was incredible. Yeah. You know?

Was it crack or coke that you was sprinkled on it? No, it was coke. It was, they used to do the weed and then put the coke on top of the weed. Yeah.

Don't try that at home, kids. Please. Don't. Yeah, don't, man. Stick to Adderol and the other stuff by your hundred, Your prescription shit.

Your middle school, yeah. That was why. Somebody said that the day they was talking about how kids. You said what? Don't do those either. They're already on it. Well, it depends what you're doing for. To get into Harvard.

Do it to get into Harvard, even though you won't be able to because it's all foreign students. You know what we didn't talk about last week? We didn't talk about where we went on vacation, man. You know what I'm saying? I was just sitting up here all nice and tan. Same. You know what I mean? We didn't tell them nothing.

Where did you go? I went to a visa. Okay. It was lovely. Had a great time in Abiza. Grown man time. I didn't really party. I think I'm done with the parties.

I think we did talk a little bit about it. That's actually what I wanted to speak about. We talked on it briefly. Every day, we would wake up 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock, which is late for me, because I'm used to waking up at 4. With the kids. Oh, no. That's right. So 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock, we would wake up.

And we would just be, you know, we wake up, probably workout or something. And then, like, all day we would just be on the beautiful beaches of vangas. Gwila, drinking, having a good time. We would have dinner at like 7 o'clock, 7.30 every night. By 9 o'clock, 9.30, 10 at the latest, everybody was in bed. Yeah. And I'm just like... The dream.

At one point, I was like, yo, we are really fucking adults. Yes, we are. We're not going out nowhere. No. We don't want to stay up late just for the stake of being up. Part of a good vacation is getting that eight to nine hours. Eight to nine hours. Eight to night.

But day drinking. So you get your drunk on. You get fun during the day. but you recover by the time you go to sleep, you're hydrated so you don't wake up hungover. If I drink at night, I'm hungover. And then when I'm on the beach, I'm not even drinking like, I guess it is alcohol,

but I'm drinking rum. That's all I'm drinking is rum. You're drinking fruity bullshit. You're not actually getting after. BBC's? Oh, I love BBC. Do you y'all don't know what the BBC is? It's banana, belly, and coconut with a rum tapper.

The fuck-ro-wrote. What y'all? What y'all think of BBC is? A BBC was what else was going on this week? What y'all think of BBC was? The whole moral of the story is get your eight, nine hours of sleep on vacation is part of it, man. You know, I have officially reached a point in my life, too, where I am literally AWACC and Minnesota Society. Talk to me.

If you've ever seen Ministers Society, MC8, Sluke to MC8, he hosts a gangster chronicle podcast with my man Steele on the Black Effect Eye Heart Radio Podcast Network. He played a character called Awax in Men's Society And he was a guy who did so much dirt On the Come Up That he got to a certain age He didn't even really have to do the dirt anymore Everybody's reputation was solidified But he used to watch everybody else do dirt

He was funny to us I mean he'd been putting in work for so long It got to a point where he'd just like to see other people do dirt And that's how I feel now because the phone calls I get about Andrew Shultz. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, who did he shoot now? Okay.

Who the fuck got hit now? Okay. What the funny thing is, what am I supposed to do? What did you get? Yeah, this week was fun. Yeah, this week was fun. This week was fun. It is so funny, bro.

The news, they just went crazy, bro. The White House responding. Yeah, fire. But that's kind of... Fire. What do you... White House did, but Kendrick didn't. Exactly.

Exactly. Kendrick was like, I'm good. Kendrick was like, I'm good. The White House is like, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you know why? I know why we're going. Because you have... I mean, Flagrant is such a huge podcast.

Trump came on Flagrant and had a fantastic interview. I told you there's plenty of people that, you know, said to me, hey, that Flavorant interview is going to get Trump elected. So it don't. matter what the CNNs or MSNBC's got to say about Trump, that's the audience he cares about. Because at the end of the day, the heart of Trump is not a politician. It's a fucking entertainer. He's listening.

So if the entertainers are shitting on me, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Can you imagine that? Forget all the journalists. This is the thing. This is the thing because he's already set up the system where you don't have to trust the journalists. And the journalists have done a great job of not being trusted. It's very simple. But like, this is the thing that you got to realize is like you have to hold him accountable to his promises.

So I know there's tons of people who just wanted to say, I told you so. And they want to say, you got duped and all this other stuff. You could say whatever you want. You're totally fair to say. I don't give a fuck. The point is, if he makes promises, if I want him to execute, that I think that a lot of other people want him to execute, i.e., revealing something about this Epstein case where a thousand girls were victimized. and then he tries to act like he's just sweeping under the rug. I know how transactional he is with the media.

Yeah. I'm going to hold him to it and I'm going to voice my displeasure. And what you will see, I believe in the next week, is that they're going to try to reveal something and then try to appease the public a little bit more because they realize it's not a story that they can speak about. Well, he's already setting it up. He's already setting it up by saying things like, you know,

the Epstein Files are a hoax. They were created by Barack Obama and the Biden administration. You can say whatever he was. You said this was all a hoax. Has your Attorney General told you this was a hoax? What evidence have you seen that? No, it's not the Attorney General, no. I know it's a hoax.

It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher Ray in these characters and Comey before him. And it's a bad group. It started actually look at the Steele dossier that turned out to be a total hoax. The 51 agents, the intelligence, so-called intelligence agents that was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax. by the Democrats.

Like, so when you... He can say whatever he wants, but we're not going to let our foot out the gas because it's something very important, right? Like, if I was Democrats, I would never let my foot off the gas because this is your thing that allows you to connect with the MAGA base.

Let's be clear. Ever since Donald Trump won, all of these different Democrats have been trying to find ways to connect with the MAGA base. Not really. They've been trying to find ways to connect with people outside of their bubble, right?

That's why Gavin Newsom do that. corny-ass podcast, where he sits with the other side, but doesn't really challenge them on anything, right? With this right here, there's one thing that connects a lot of Americans. If you ask me what the base of the MAGA movement is, this is my personal opinion. I think it's conspiracy and I think it's white supremacy, right? So you can connect on the conspiracy part because if you want that base to listen to you, then you got to talk about things that they care about. Could I add a caveat to that?

What if you said mistrust or distrust of government institutions and elites? I think, yeah, I think that's part of it. And I think that when you have a person like Trump who said he was going to drain the swamp and he was calling out the government and calling out the elites, but now you look just like the governments

and just like the elites. You're doing the same thing. You know, we said it on the pod last week. The worst part about being in those positions, eventually you become just like the people, right? So eventually those people that you voted for that you thought was going to be different ended up being exactly the same. Now, there's a lot of places we can go with this conversation, right? People will say things like...

But wait, I don't want to move too far away because you said a great point. Okay. The smart Democrats ever since the loss in the election. Yes. Have been trying to find a way to build a coalition with MAGA. And earn back some of the votes that they lost to Trump. They're not really trying to convince MAGA. MAGA is going to Trump no matter what.

some of them are doing the mental gymnastics to try to like justify what Trump is doing. Like there's a, when I say mad guy, I just mean people who voted for Trump. Got it, got it. But like, you have to kind of parcel it because there's a lot of people who are disillusioned with the Democrats and their offerings and the fact that they ran a dead guy for four years and nobody said anything about it. It talks about that. All of this, go, we go through $3.

We'll get to it. But like, so I think what the smart Democrats are doing, I mean, like, Mark Cuban hit me up immediately. He was like, that's great. The Pod Take America guys hit me up. And they're like, this is good that they're holding them a Kim. accountable. But what you've also noticed is while there's the Trump grifters, there's also the anti-Trump grifters. And they don't care about the midterms. They don't care about the next election. All they care about is being right. Being right. And continuing to get engagement.

Engagement, clicks, views, the same thing that the Trump grifters are doing. And it's very selfish, right? You're masquerading as these people fighting for democracy. All you do is fighting for your own views. You're pathetic. Shut the fuck up. So what they're doing right now is this, like, I told you so shit. Instead of realizing, oh, shit. this is a moment where, like, Trump's base is feeling like he lied to them and feeling like he's not going to deliver on a promise, why don't we offer them something and bring them back home? By back home, I mean, all the people that were lifelong Democrats. That's because the Democratic Party is still in shambles. And it doesn't matter if the Republicans

fumble or Trump fumbles because they don't have the team to properly recover the ball. If I'm a Democrat, right, and I'm not talking about one of these elite Democrats that have been around for a long time. No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about the Rokanas of the world. Yes. I'm talking about Bernie Sanders. The AOC's Bernie's a little older. Like, even though he is a leader.

But he's the tent pole of that side of the party. Yes. But all I'm simply saying is don't ever stop talking about the Epstein issue. Why? Because it's the only issue that has ever made the people who voted for Trump be like, that's fucked up. Yes. It hasn't been deportation. No.

It hasn't been, it wasn't doge. They don't care. In little, little ways. They pretend to care. It's not even the budget. He said he was going to drop the deficit or whatever the fuck it is. And now he's bumping it up $4 trillion or $3 trillion. They don't care.

None of that may wait. And it pisses me off. Just watch all of these Democrats be on CNN, be on MSNBC and say, why do they care about this? Why do they care about the Epstein thing? This is the things that are affecting their everyday life. Shut the fuck up and learn how to fucking play politics. This is your transgender's in sports.

There you go. Hold it home. This is your transgender and sports moment. They never let that shit go. Chris, what did you used to say all the time about the transgender sports? Why do people? Why do people care about this? Why don't know people care about this? Shut the fuck up and learn how to play politics. I would never stop talking about the Epstein issue because it's the only thing that connects you to the Maga base and it's what they actually care about. And if you think it's a nothing Burger, then exposing it is nothing. Yes. If you think there's no conspiracy or anything like that, then just expose it because there's no

conspiracy. But if you think there's no conspiracy and you're for not releasing it, now I've got some questions about your own. I'm never stopped talking about the FCFiles. Number one is a major cover up. I love seeing the bipartisan support for uncovering it. It actually gives me some faith in humanity that there are people that aren't playing politics and they're just like, hey, there's a thousand underage girls that have been victimized.

Maybe they should get a little justice. That'd be kind of cool. And there are these seemingly elites and government institutions and banks who might be able to get away with breaking the law all the fucking time. And just maybe, just maybe in our lifetime, just maybe they get a little justice. I don't see why all Americans wouldn't want that. I asked some people, I asked some people in the Democratic Party, how come when Biden was in office. They didn't really pursue the Epstein. And they told me it's because they don't really

dwell in conspiracy. Okay, fine. Well, guess what? It's not a conspiracy anymore. It's an obvious cover-up. So can you constantly bring up the obvious cover-up? He's a registered sex offender that got a sweetheart deal. Jislane is in jail for 20 years for child sex trafficking. So there's no conspiracy. The conspiracy is if the government was the one that was organized the blackmail ring or if he was a government asset of the United States. I've been hearing that too. Et cetera. So like these are the conspiracies is are the governments making him do these things or were,

was he doing this thing already and the government was using it as an asset to get access to these different people? Maybe they're using it to ship guns around the world. They're using it to hide money. Who the fuck knows exactly what they do? But we know that governments engage in individual people to do nefarious acts that cannot reflect back on the government. We know that this is happening for years.

This is just how it works. Yeah. Okay? So that, I guess you could go to the conspiracy, but let's not act like this is nothing. Yeah, the conspiracy is Pam Bondi told us that the Epstein list was on her desk. Now they're saying it doesn't exist. But now they're saying it does exist, but it was written by Biden and O'D Obama. Oh, get out of here with this shit.

It's an obvious cover up. My point is Democrats don't ever stop talking about it. By the way, Republicans still haven't stopped talking. They still haven't stopped talking about the trans. in sports issue right now. To this day. But what is interesting is like, and I get, so I'm on the pod and I'm just like, you know, the things

that he's doing right now, very specifically, I'm talking about the Epstein cover-up. I'm talking about ending foreign wars, increasing the budget. Like, these are these specific things that I haven't seen. Nobody can't fuck about none of that shit. Like, they do Epstein. But here's the thing.

I was like, these are not the things that I voted for. And then the initial reaction was like, this is exactly what you voted for. I'm like, no, it's exact. If I wanted to vote for those things, I would have voted for Kamala. That's what she was going to stand for. She wasn't going to release the Epstein stuff.

We were going to continue with foreign wars, and we were going to get the budget increase. Those are all the things that the Democrats would have done, and they ran on doing, and we know that that was going to happen because that is the status quo. Trump told you he was going to stop the wars. Trump said they were going to release the Epstein files.

He said it on Foxx's defense. He said that they were going to decrease the deficit. He actually created this organization called Doge. Here's the thing that I'm telling you. Can I just ask you in this case? So given my position, right? Like, and I'm not some fucking right-wing call or left-wing fucking cult. I'm a free American.

I'll say whatever the fuck I want and I'll hold people accountable, especially while they're in power. I think that's when you should hold them accountable the most. What, what? There's a lot of people that were like, there's this massive media story and like, you fucking should have known and all this stuff. You got duped. Fair, I got duped. Fair. If he doesn't do any of those things he said he did, you can say, fair, I got duped.

What is the alternative? Can I? The alternative is just voting for the other side that's going to do those things and runs on doing those things that I say not to? Let's stay here for a minute. because it's the conversation we had off there. There's nothing wrong with saying you got got. But guess what? That's what politician's job is to do.

To get you. They go out there and they tell you everything that you want to hear in order to get you to vote for them. I said it last week on the podcast that I've been saying it for years. Donald Trump is the best at telling everybody what they want to hear. Exactly what they want to hear.

Now, people will say, well, you know, well, and this is this example I give. And I saw this on the Daily Sean. I thought it was hilarious. They showed Donald Trump talking about the flooding in Texas. Yeah. And he was like, we've maxed out on Texas. We're going to give Texas everything.

Whatever they need, they got it. You know, if you're on the right, you're on Texas, you hear that. You're like, yeah, that's my guy. Then they show him talking about the wildfires in California. He was like, I don't think they should get nothing. The Trump that you're just experiencing now to your deep disappointment and dismay is the dude we've been dealing with the whole fucking time. You just didn't realize it because he's been nice to you.

Like when you've had a terrible tragedy. My administration's doing everything in its power to help Texas. We gave them all the money, all the help that they can possibly use. We've given them max. We've maxed out, and we'll continue to max out. Whatever you need, Daddy's here.

Because you're the child he wanted. But we're Eric. Truly just a weird cheap shot. This is how we can. get treated? I don't think we should give California anything. Did that I mean? If I give California money, then every state that didn't vote for me will think I'm their president too. So if you're on the left, you're like, that motherfucker's fucked up. If on the right, you're like, so depending on what you're tuned into the most, if you're watching MSNBC, CNN, you're going to

see one thing. If you're watching Fox, you're going to see another thing. My stupid ass watches it all. And being that I watch it all, I see it all, and I see exactly what he's doing, and I see exactly why it works. Now, it's the conversation nobody wants to have. Democrats, you do the same exact thing. Uh-oh, careful. No, no, no. Charlemagne, careful.

This might be a national news story that the White House response to it. But you know, I don't give a vote. You're holding Democrats accountable. God forbid. Democrats, not only did they do it, you got got, right? Y'all got got. Right? You believed the stuff that was coming out of his mouth.

Democrats knew they were bullshitting us with Joe Biden. Nobody wants to talk about the buyers. How so? By running him for more than one term. They knew he was too motherfuck for. Jake Tapper just wrote a whole book about it. So the original city where he talks about all of these people in the Democratic Party who covered up on purpose.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Come on, Chris. Hold on what second. Let it make the argument. I'm coming to it. I'm bringing it all around, right? Democrats did all of this shit. shit for three, four motherfucking years lying about President Biden, right? It's because of that lie that we're in this position. Elizabeth Warren is still lying to this day about it.

Because if Democrats would have did one thing. If they would have did what you did. Hold the people that you vote for in power accountable. Say we got got. But instead, you're quiet, you fall in line and then you fuck yourself in the long run. Yes. And then you put out a book like Jake Tapper. You were saying also Corinne.

Corinne John Pierre, his press secretary. Corinne John Pierre is an independent now. She's like, I can no longer support the Democratic Party. Okay, so you did it for four years. You lied on behalf of them for four years. You covered up the fact that he's seen out for four years. You put the Democratic Party, not only you, but you're accountable for the lack of a candidate that they had to run and the lack of opportunity for them to actually build a campaign for someone that America actually likes.

This is what I'm saying. You can criticize me all you want. One more thing to that. Yes, just go. America told both parties this is not what we want it. Say that louder. Democrats and Republicans both said we do not want a Trump-Biden rematch. I remember being on the view.

And I said, both candidates suck. Go look at the statistics. Go look at what people are saying. Nobody wants this. Right? And I said the first person who replaces their candidate with somebody fresh, and new is going to win. The problem with the Democrats, they did it way too late.

And it wasn't fresh and new. It wasn't fresh and new. I love the VP, but they did it too late. And it wasn't fresh and new. I saw Rokane say something on a flagrant where he talked about, you know, when you look at a Trump or you look at a Vance or you look at a Mundani, right?

Trump has been in office five years. Vance has been in office five years. They're still looked at as relatively fresh and new. And you look at one of the reasons Trump and Vance won. Look at how many. years collectively, they've been in elective office. Trump, like five, and Vance has been like five years. Now you look at the amount of years that Biden and Harris were collectively in elective

office. And the reality is the longer you stay in, people think, okay, I got to just say everything to keep my position. When Donnie didn't even think he was going to win, so he's coming up with all these fresh new ideas. If you give people the status quo, they will rebel. They'll expect it. They'll expected and rebel against this. Because they're unhappy with the status quo. Nobody wants to admit we're in this situation because people just simply did not listen to a mayor. And furthermore, I just want to point out that like, if there were Democrats that broke free and said that Trump, sorry, that Biden was actually senile, they were met with intense criticism. Right? Intense, intense criticism, right? They're called all sorts of like horrible things, et cetera. But that is the

cost for honesty and the cost for success. So who knows? Maybe saying, hey, Trump, you're fucking, you ran on this thing and now you're shying away from it. Maybe that leads to them actually releasing some more stuff about the Epstein files. And if that does, it's a great example of how you hold the people in power accountable. If they did that with Biden immediately, if all those people that covered it up, if all the people that were afraid of speaking up because they were worried they were going to get shunned, or they were afraid that Republicans would use it against them, they would say, you ran that guy that was senile, and now the second you win, you say that he's senile, that's fucked up, the exact same thing that happened to me.

Like, you're going to deal with scrutiny, but it is the right, honest thing to do if that's what you care, if you actually care about what's happening in the country. Yeah. And listen, man, there's things, here's the thing about a campaign. A campaign is just that, a campaign. I'm going to campaign trail, and I'm going to say every single thing I need to say to get people behind me. Yo, I love the VP, but you can't go on the VP.

But you can't go on the view and say you're not going to do nothing different. When people are upset with him. When he's got the lowest approval rating ever. You've got to tell people's shit that you can't even do. I mean, look, shout of Mondani, but he's like, we're going to raise taxes. It's not even in his power to raise taxes. You've got to go to Albany of that shit. Trump, he's saying something that's going to help, that people feel that is going to help them.

And maybe he executes it. That's potentially possible. They made it easy for Trump to finesse people. And it's okay. to say you got got. Chris, am I bug in here? I think they're right. I'm not talking about you.

I'm talking about the people that voted for him, Chris. He's been a con man. He's been a con man for 50 years. I've heard this. I've heard this argument too. Listen, I've heard the, I don't want to play the I told you so game. It's not helpful in the moment. It feels good, yeah, but it's not.

All right, but I'm not doing it. You can say it. But I don't know what's going to happen. I can't say. I don't subscribe to this idea that nothing happens. I think, Trump is so transactional with his base that if his base shows that they want something enough, it will come out.

Like, we have seen this. It's very rare that he'll- Have been following coming up. Well, I think that, I think in my estimation, within the next week or two, we get more revealed from, they're going to find a, what's it called? Redacted? No, they're going to find like a patsy. They're going to find someone that they can play some blame on. But at this point, who's going to believe anything that comes out at this point?

Nobody's going to believe it. It will never be enough. but I think that he has no choice but to reveal more here. I think if he continued, like they said they're going to send $10 billion to the Ukraine or whatever, the base is going to find out about this shit

and continue to hear about this and they're going to revolt. They just gave Elon another $2 billion for... The AI project. The AI project. I'm not upset at that. I'm more upset at the foreign wars. Like, I want the wars done.

I'm tired of seeing fucking Gaza turn into fucking rubble two years into this thing. There's just tens of thousands of people fucking dead. And here's the reality. To that point, too, this is where, this is where Biden and Harris messed up.

They didn't say they would stop it. They ran on continuing it. So all these people that are virtue signaling, and all these people are patting themselves on the back. It's like, yeah, you voted for the people that are going to continue to fund and murder those fucking innocent people in Gaza.

I don't think it's that hard an idea to vote for the person who said they're going to stop it. Why do you think Michigan rebelled against Kamala like that, like Dearborn. I don't hear what you're saying, but I'm always saying, you know, like it's going to sound like I told you so. But if Jared Kushner is your son-in-law, you know he's fucking giving Israel everything. What's the alternative? Come up. Chris, you're right.

I would have. I would have. No, no, no. I know you would have. But like, what is the alternative to cast your vote for the people who are telling you to your face? They're going to continue funding the mass murder of tens of thousands of people. Are taking a chance on the person who's telling you they're going to stop it. I didn't vote.

I didn't vote for Trump. But I can tell you. I can tell you why. He won. I'm taking the chance over the people that are telling me to my face, we're going to keep funding this shit. Like, I'm sorry. That's kind of way on your heart a little bit, dude.

This is why dims are not going to win. I don't think it was black and white. This is why dims are not. Of course you wouldn't, because you voted for the people that said they're going to keep doing it, and you don't want to realize that's a reality. Chris, this is why dims aren't going to win any future elections, because you're still too emotional about it. Everybody got to take a step back and deal with strategy.

I hear what you're saying. So you can see why Trump won. Yeah, sure. That's all that's all I'm saying. So the people that got got got, I can understand how they got got. If the Democrat comes out in this next election, and they're like, you know what, Trump didn't stop those foreign wars. But one of the first things that I'm going to do is I'm going to put a stop to the funding for Israel bombing, Gaza, blah, blah, God forbid, we're still into that thing. Do they have your support?

As long as Taiwan gets support, yes. But you know what I'm saying? Isn't that compelling a little bit to you? like while people struggle here in the United States, like you're, we're complicit in the bombing of this place. Of course I don't support this shit. I'm just,

I don't even know what I'm saying. Also people are, also people are one-issue voters. That's the thing. People are one-issue voters. Well, that's why I'm exactly who you're describing when you're saying,

what about, because in my mind, and I guess I'm saying it right now, I'm like, what happened with the victims of Epstein in that ring is horrific, but what's going to happen to all the babies

who lose access to medical health because of the reduction of funding and services throughout, and American throughout the world is also horrific to me. Chris, everything you're saying is right. I guess I don't understand why one resonates so strongly with people

and another doesn't. Because you're a Democrat. You're a Democrat. I think that you make a great point, by the way. I do think he makes a great point, and I think it's media tension. And I think of the same media tension. It's not a sexual.

No, it's not media attention. Oh, what is it? Chris is the Democrat. You know what Democrats do? they don't listen to what people are actually into. I'm like, they focus on what they're into. What they feel. So, so fuck if the people are going for Bernie.

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's push Hillary. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. I voted for Bernie.

I know, I'm not, I'm not. But you know what I mean. You're talking about the party. Right, right, right. The party will put whoever they want to put as the candidate, even if the people rebuke it. And, you know, right now. Bro, I know.

In our hand is the Epststst. It's crazy. is the Epstein thing that Democrats should never stop talking about. And I'm watching these talking heads on TV that are Democrats saying, why do people care about this? Stephen A. Stephen A Smith. Oh, Stephen A.

I think some Democrats think it's a trap. I feel that way somehow. A trap. That's why they, listen to what I said, Chris, earlier. Because I think I wouldn't put anything past Trump right now. He might release the redacted files, whatever he calls them, which somehow exonerate him. He'll say anything.

Isn't that still good? Like, don't, what you're saying is, hold on, what you're saying is we shouldn't put pressure on him to release the files. Hold on, because then if he does, he'll get credit for releasing the files. At a certain point in time, you've got to put the fucking thousand girls that were victimized over your political aspirations. No, you don't. No, no.

Let me tell you out of truth. This is a lie. That lie that they're putting these women over their political aspirations is bullshit. And you know it. All of it is about political aspirations. They're only going to push the if they see the political advantage that it has. You were saying that as you, I just want to clarify I'm not saying that as you. I'm saying that as politicians. Politicians don't care about people. They're using it for their own political advantage. And Chris, I've said this for weeks on this podcast. The future Democrats have to throw the old regime under the bus. We know for a fact. It knows

Epstein files. If there's anybody from the Democratic Party in there, which I'm sure it is, it's all old regime. I guarantee you it's all old regime. Bye. Run them over with a truck. I'm going to fuck who it is. If you're an old regime, you got to go. Therefore, the younger people, like I said earlier,

the Rokanhas, the AOCs, they should be constantly holding on to the Epstein files, constantly bringing it up and constantly demanding that they get released. And if they get released and it's the old regime in the Democratic Party, fuck them. Brod put an amendment in Congress, or he announced amendment. He handed it over to, like, the committee that allows bills to even

go to Congress. I didn't even know that should exist. There's a committee, I think, of like nine Republicans and I think four Democrats that decide if a bill can't even be voted on. And the bill was just to release the full Epstein files. And I think seven of the nine or like eight of the nine Republicans said no to the bill. What are you saying no to? And I understand, oh, there's some names that are in these files, but they might not actually be incriminated with anything. So we should protect their identities so they're not, they're not negatively impacted just because they're in the thing without actually doing anything. I get that argument. Redact the victims, release the client list. Well, there is no, like, client list. What I think that you've got to do is just, there's a couple

things that you've got to do. It's not a client list? No, there's no, like, list of all things. So there's a couple things that we could bear minimum do. The reason they were able to try obscene again is because when you got that sweetheart deal in Florida, right? What, in order to accept that plea deal, you have to inform the victims of the plea deal. And they never informed the victims, obviously, because if they informed them, they would have fucking went crazy because this was an unbelievable sweetheart deal when you have like, I think, 40 victims or all these different people coming for it. So because of that, they were to wipe it clean. So what I say, bare minimum, is just give us all the information of the federal investigation. Remember, this is the fed

on him back in 2005, I think it was, 2005 to do that. about 2008, that was now wiped clean, his amnesty or immunity or whatever it is was wiped clean. Release all that information bare minimum. Furthermore, anybody who's had business dealings with him after he was considered a registered sex offender, in my opinion, we don't have to redact your name. You knew what you're going to do. We don't have to redact your name, dude. If you're going to the guy's house after he's a registered sex offender, think about it.

Riding on his plane. There are people that won't come on a podcast. There are politicians that won't come on a podcast during his last election. because they were nervous about being around certain people. Radio active. Go to a pedophiles fucking house and stay overnight. Get out of here. So bare minimum we released that and secondarily you follow the money.

You can redact any names you want, but we need to know those bank records. There was a lawsuit, I think, with Deutsche Bank that was banking him and J.P. Morgan. And I think they had to pay out tens of maybe hundreds of millions. I forget exactly what it was to certain victims. You release that file. We want to know all the business dealings, where the monies are going, which shell companies the money you're going to, you'll find everything from the money. Do I think it's like a government formulated blackmail scheme with child sex trafficking? No. Do I think that he was involved in

nefarious activities on behalf of multiple governments? Probably. And because of that, they look the other way on his disgusting and heinous pedophilia that he did for fucking decades. I think they basically saw that and they're like, yeah, but this guy rubbed shoulders with all the most wealthy people in the world and all the most influential people in the world. This is a small net group. So what we're going to do is we're going to keep our fucking claws in this guy and he's going to tell us anything that we need to know as it goes forward. The internet is probably turned into something else. I have a slight twist. My suspect, I've got nothing to base this on. Yeah. But just the way the world works. I suspect Epstein was going to do this regardless of any other

governments. And I think an opportunistic government caught wind about it. I was like, this is the honey pot. Like we can totally compromise half the U.S. Now, was it within the U.S.? Was it outside of the U.S.? I don't think we're ever going to know the truth, unfortunately. Yeah. And I think the thing that Trump has done,

which is very clever, but also very damaging to the country, is already questioned the authenticity of anything that's going to come out from this point forward. Because he said, well, Obama wrote this report anyway. Yeah, but you can't say that. But he said it. But his thing. The Epstein thing, Chris, was the one thing that all of those people on the right were paying attention to the most. They are the ones who amplified this and say these things have to come out. They know this shit better than most. Like from top

to bottom, they was like, you never said this before about Obama. Right. And you can't. And if Obama wrote it and it was good, they would have released it during Biden because they had the whole thing during Biden. So don't tell me that it's just some, we're going to, we're going to only put the Republican members of Congress and the Republican politicians in here because Obama wrote it. The Democrats decided not to release any of the information. To me, that shows mutually assured destruction. Mutually assured destruction. Why are we complicating this? We throw them under the bus. Yeah, maybe he is. Hey, if my dad was on the plane, I don't think he was, but if my dad was on the plane, Chris, he got to go. I've already told y'all, the future of the

Democratic Party depends on the people now throwing the old. regime under the bus. Roll Kana. Whoever, the booty judges in the world. You ready? Clinton has that much juice anymore. You ready?

Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. You're very nice. If the Democrats, if the Democrats force Trump's hand and use Congress to release

the Epstein file or information about the Epstein. And there is a release that is done because of Democrats. Trump, being completely reluctant to release it, but Democrats force it. All the credit for something good.

Finally! Hey, hey. What the fuck? Why is this so hard? If they do that, 2028 is them. Come on. I don't care. Roe just tried it.

So they're not going to be able to do it. But what I'm saying, if you keep on pushing, it's just forgetting. You keep on pushing and you might have to throw some people under the bus. You have to. But don't you want to be the party? I mean, you are the party of progress. You are the party that protects women. Don't you want to be the party if we are disgustingly looking this only through the lens of

like political advantage. Don't you want to be the party that got justice for a thousand underage girls that were victimized? Don't you want to be that party? People want honesty. People want transparency. If we really just based

honesty and transparency and government off like the past two, three years, there's only like a couple of people you can point to and say, that person was right. Dean Phillips was right. Dean Phillips.

What did you say? Dean was one of the first people saying, you know, Biden is too old to run. Right. He was telling the truth. There's nothing you can say about Trump that people didn't already know. The Trump had been, depending on what you were listening to,

you could hear and see the truth about Donald Trump. The funny thing about the Trump shit, I love when people say, it was right there in Project 2025. Now, I'm going to tell y'all something. A lot of it. I got gifted Project 2025 probably two years ago at this point.

That shit is almost 900 pages long. I tried reading some of that shit. I'm like, I don't, I don't care that much. So I know most people did not read 900 pages of Project 2025. Stop telling me that this shit was in Project 225. I got up to 785 all night. But, Chris, you're an author and a reader. I'm joking.

I don't read. Oh, you see what I'm saying? Most people saw a meme, and they don't even know if the shit that was in the meme was true. So stop saying, oh, you saw it in front of it. Project 2025, that's what you voted for. No, if you actually watch Fox News and you actually pay attention to what the other side was saying, I could have, matter of fact, not coulda, I did tell y'all why people was voting for Trump.

Did I agree with it? No, but I could tell you why he was going to win. I didn't think he was going to win, no. But he did. But I understand why he won. I do think that he's going to release it or release more because that's why he's, look, That's why he's trying to muddy the file now by saying all these, all my enemies wrote the file. So now he has some plausible deniability for that's not the original file that we had.

That's what they wrote. We all know what's going to happen. Yo, we all know what's going to happen. Well, here's the thing, Charlotte. We know what's going to happen. Here's the thing. And this is a thing that I don't think Democrats are considering right now. They have an opportunity to put pressure and be part of the release on this.

But here's the thing they don't realize. If they spend their time doing, I told you so, right? If they spend their time doing, I told you so, and virtue signaling. And then Trump actually does release it. They're toast. The last thing you want to do is not be part of the release. If Trump releases it, you have to act like you forced his hand. What you can't do is act like you're not interested in releasing it.

And then he goes, you know what? Fuck it, release that shit. And then he's the hero. He does the thing that the base has wanted. So you have never happened. No, fair enough. It incriminates himself. Was they one?

Maybe. He might be crazy enough. He might be crazy enough to do it. I slept with a couple girls. They were all... No, he might. Honestly, he might, I'm telling you, he might be crazy enough to do it.

And the fact that he does it, they might be crazy enough to forgive him, not for underage girls, but he might be crazy enough to forgive him for like some prostitute shit, as long as he says they're all the... They already have. Right.

So what I'm trying to say is... And I mean, it's sincerely... No, I've thought about it. Democrats, if you allow Trump to feed the base exactly what he needs and act like you're the one impeding it, not the one pushing it, you're toast. You know why y'all be- You're toast. You know why y'all- Dershowitz tried this already. It's not crazy. You saw it. He did it years ago. No, but- I was there. I got a massage. I kept my underwear on.

You know why y'all be getting got? Because y'all believe. What? Be like me. Be a cramagin. I don't believe. You believe Kamla would win. I did. You believe anything. You believe in Bigfoot. You believe in Donald Cowboys.

Yeah. Let me tell you something. You believe too. Donald Trump is the only thing you don't believe. You know what Donald Trump is going to do? He's already set the stage. This is the Democrats, Democrats, Democrats, Democrats wrote this, Democrats wrote this, Democrats. Robles.

One day we're just going to be online and all of a sudden some Epstein files going to be circulating on social media. And everybody will be like, oh shit, they released the Epstein files. They're never going to confirm if it's real or not. And it's going to be some complete bullshit. Bullshit. It's going to be some complete, there'll be a bunch of dead people on there. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, this person, well, he's dead. This person's dead. Why? This is this going to be some complete bullshit on the way to Epstein Island. Yes. It'll be some dead people and a couple of folks that they just really truly don't give a fuck about.

People that they might have already ousted out of government. You know what I mean? Al Franken might be on the, like dumb shit like that, like silly, stupid shit. You're going to be like, oh. It's possible. That's possible. But whoever he gets to do that, they better be strategic with it because the way they put that video out

and we saw in the metadata how it was an edited file of two separate clips. They can't stop. They don't have to be a video. No, but I'm just saying he fucked up already with the video trying to pretend like that was the real shit. So if he does what you're saying, they better do it in a way that because if he tries that and are able to...

Trump usually only hires the best people for jobs. Exactly. Can I say something? If we're able to prove that is bullshit? I still haven't seen this video y'all talking about. The video you've seen, it's just been. I haven't seen the video. You've saw it online.

No, I haven't. I've heard everybody talking about it, which goes back to another point that I was making. Just because we think everybody has seen something doesn't mean that they have. I have not seen any Epstein videos. I've heard Casper Tal talk about it. I've heard other people talk about it. I've read, I know you haven't. You see what the fuck I'm saying?

No, like there's too much shit out here. There's nothing to see it. video. It's literally hours of just nobody moving. Nothing. It's far away from his actual cell. It's like nothing's on the video. You know, how many... How many prisoners were in the jail cells around him? We can't talk to none of them.

But you got like, you're telling me none of them heard anything? None of them witnessed anything. Like, come on. And I'm gonna say another thing, man. It is, it is, this is, this is, this is coming from a slightly, this is coming from a slightly bitter place. I don't want to hear I told you so from nobody. The reason I don't want to hear I told you so, especially

Democrats, is because when we were out here saying shit like, Joe Biden needs to step down. Joe Biden don't stand a chance. They said you were a threat to democracy. They said I was a threat to democracy. They said I was helping. They said you were working for Trump. They said I was working for

motherfucking Trump. And now, and now what are saying? Now everybody's like, he should have stepped out two years ago. Is it, God damn it. That's why I'm not tripping about the backlash right now, because in a few weeks when we hear some more abstain shit, or when he continues to not fill promises, or if he does start to fulfill,

if he does fill promises, I'm going to give him all the fucking credit. I don't care. I call like it is. If he fulfills promises, you get credit. We get that war stopped. We get shit settled in Ukraine. I'll give you all the fucking credit in the world.

Well, I do agree it is going, it always takes backlash from people to get governments to move. There you go. And so, so, so. Yeah, it's like, they react to the will of the people. And if we're being completely honest, MAGA or just Trump supporters, period, are the only people who really bout that action. And that's who he cares about. Democrats can make all the noise they want and he will never give a fuck.

Dem's motivation is, at least it's not him. Everything is, at least it's not him. They build up the bad guy. They build up the opposition as the worst person ever. And then they just go, hey, at least it's not him. And that's how they trick us into voting for shitty candidates. the last at least it's not him it's the last at least it's not him

candidate we had was a guy named Barack Obama and they didn't run on at least it's not him they ran on hope that motherfucker was good brilliance they ran on talents and we fell in love with this guy everybody else is at least Hillary was

at least that's not him stop stop falling for this fucking trap where they just make it good versus evil and they can do it hey don't worry about who he got it doesn't matter because at least it's not him I forgot which poll it was was, but 70% of all respondents did not want a Trump versus Biden.

We were all sitting here like, why are we back in the same fucking situation? Nobody wanted this. That's why everybody has bias remorse now. That's why Jake Tapper can come out with the original sin. That's why Corinne John Pierre can go independent. That's why Andrew Schultz is saying, this is not what I voted for. It's why Rogan is saying, yo, this is not what I voted for. This is not what I wanted.

This is why these things are happening because everybody has bias remorse. Democrats got bias remorse because they know they ran the wrong candidate for too long. Facts. and that's why we're in this motherfucker. I think with the Democrats, it's not as much, at least it's not him, though that's how it was presented. It's just, it's a fractured party. And I think...

A fraction. Right. Well, it might not exist. It might not exist. Which is why... It was fractured. Which is all the more reason for the F-thene list to come out because you know what people really want, Chris?

This is what this was frustrating me about this whole thing that, this whole conversation. We are at a pivotal point right now, a tipping point to where we know what was and what is is not working. And we're at a point where we actually have the opportunity to build something new. But everybody's so busy pointing the finger like,

I told you so, we told you this was going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Guess what? Everybody told everybody that it was going to happen. Hindsight is... Everybody. Democrats told Republicans were going to happen. Republicans told Democrats it was going to happen. Guess what?

now we're here. How do we move forward? How do we make sure none of us ever get God ever again? And how do we make sure that we get the candidates that we actually motherfucking deserve? We're always going to get God because the game is selling dreams. You said this better than anybody else. But I don't know. I don't know. And I'm going to tell you why. Because of podcasting. Okay, that's fair. I'm serious. Because we're not beholding to anybody. No, no, that is fair. I guess what I'm trying to say is like, the matter who sells us the best dream that we believe, it's still on us to hold. them accountable. I think this thing happens where, like, once somebody that you vote for gets into power, there's this real, like, laziness that can happen. You just kind of sit back, relax and watch

the show. Rose-colored glass. Yeah, you look at everything rose-colored glasses. And it's like, no, no, no, that's when you actually need to be the most vocal, because that's the only chance you have to get the things that you want executed. All you want your person to win, so when they come on your platform, you may not press them on all the things you want to press them on, because you don't want them to be. to have a bad moment. Well, I think you got to ask all the questions. I do too. Matter what. Absolutely. Personally. But the, I guess the point that I'm trying to say is like, so let's say a Democrat wins next election. Let's say it's Pete. Let's say it's AOC. Let's say whatever it is. You don't just sit back and relax. What you do is remind them every day of the

promises that they made. And then when they're not executing those promises, you hold them accountable. I think what you can't hold the opposition accountable for not executing the things you want because they would never want to do them in the first place. So you can yell about them and complain about them, but you really can't make them do anything. But when people promise you something, when a politician promise you some shit, let's say Mamdani wins and he says he's going to increase taxes and he doesn't actually have the power to do that. He has to get Albany to do it.

You go, yo, you better get out there and convince Albany. You told us you were going to increase taxes on the rich and that was going to help the rest of us. Why isn't that happening? You got to hold them to that every single day. I agree. You don't just sit back and relax. You go, I guess he'll do it or figure it out.

Does that mean, does that present me what I'm trying to say? I know that Trump is complicit in this shit because I know he's a master at understanding his fingers on the pulse, right? Yes. He knows. I've always said this. If Trump thought that suddenly supporting trans rights would be what would keep him in power and positive. He would support it. Everybody's cabinet would have purple hair and fake tits and, you know, thought they'd have on surgery.

Like, he doesn't care. He knows that his base wants this thing right now. needs this. So then what does he do if he knows they want it and he can't give it to him? He's telling y'all to move to fuck on. So what does he do if he said it all week? Move to fuck on. But what if move on,

it doesn't work? It didn't work. And that's why it's great that people are keeping up pressure and you're keeping up pressure because it's going to force him. My issue is just I think he's capable of anything. And his next play will be the fake document or the fake leak or the misdirect. You know that's going to happen. Because he knows right now he has to do it.

He tried that there's nothing to see here. He tried, daddy Trump said, go put you towards the way. He tried, it's the Democrats' fault. He put out all the old tricks. He's, this is the first time we've seen him like, fuck, that didn't work. Yeah. That didn't work. And Democrats are so stupid.

But, but stop. No, no, I'm going to call him fucking stupid because they need to hear this. I don't mind you call him stupid, but it's like it's the narrative of the story. But it is because they're stupid. Because they have the moment right now. You know what I'm doing right now if I'm in? So what's the playbook? Piling on.

Pile on. Okay. Pile on. Now, yo, okay, you told Andrew, I told you so. You told Rogan, I told you so. You told Kandeson. You told everybody I told you so. Now what?

Pile on. Pile on. Pile on. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Because you know what else you can do while you're piling on? Showing what else is going on. Oh, you want to know why inflation is up? You want to know why the prices were going to come down too?

That hasn't happened. You know why? Because of these tariffs. Exactly. Oh, these wars are still going on. They're still sending billions of dollars. They had a ceasefire in... No, he said 30 days.

It hasn't been 30 days. Chris, stop. So, people are stupid, Chris. They don't know that you learned sarcasm last week. They do not know that you just learned sarcasm last week. So I think that what you're saying is, and this is what John Favro said on the POTSAT America guy said is, what is possible that comes from this is that his base learns that he lies about things. and the worst thing that can ever happen to him is that his base learns that he will lie

and tell people lies that they will believe. What's that? And then what else? And then what else? So once the base is convinced that he's lying about something so that they will support it, what else could he potentially lie about?

And that's how Democrats, if they're smart, would strategically chip away at the trust that he has within his base. You're the chink in the armor right now. Can't say that word. What? Armor. What you're going to do now?

Thursday, RIP to my uncle John Morrow passed away this weekend. Oh, man, sorry to hear that. Full-fledged MAGA. Long time. He said MAGA, y'all. Maga. I know that full-fledged. It was in the MAGA after that kind of probably, but you said MAGA.

But I'm going to his funeral, of course. have a lot of love for him. But everybody on that side of the family is very much mega. And I'm, you know, I'm not going to bring up politics, but politics tends to come up in our family. I'll be very curious what the... Chris, all it takes is one little piece of string to be hanging from a t-shirt

and you start pulling it in the whole shirt, starts falling apart. Why are Democrats not using this more? I wouldn't be talking about anything except for Epstein right now. You brought up a great point. Chris is going to go to the funeral with a shirt that says, I told you. No, no, no, no. That's the shit they used to do to me.

Every thing in my house is torn up in NRA hats, MAGA hats. Remember when you used to ask us, you used to be like, why do people care about this transgender and sports issue? We would say because it makes everything else they say sound like complete bullshit. Right. They sound like the party that lacks common sense. Exactly. They sound like the party that's insulting our intelligence.

It's representative of. all the other issues that people have with the democratic identity politics ideology. Exactly. So what Babarro said is true. Exactly. That's a thing. You have to keep on. I just don't understand why people don't see this.

You have to, like he said, if they make it like the trans issue, if they put him in a corner where they know he will not release it, he just refuses to release it. Even if the Democrats are also incriminated on it, the party in power is the way. one deciding not to release it. So they can keep going, yo, release that shit, knowing that he won't. And it's no different than how many times did Kamala actually say anything about trans? Almost none. It only took her saying

one thing about trans. Years ago that they put in a commercial. They ran it back. I get it. But it's the Trump of it, which is like, if he had been in that situation, if he had said one thing about trans years ago and they asked him during the election, he'd be like, I don't fucking hate trans people. What the fuck are you talking about? Fuck that.

He wouldn't. Yeah, but he won't do that here because the base wants it. He tried to do that. You guys are still talking about that shit. And it didn't work. It backfired. It actually made it bigger. And now they're scrambling, right?

There's a lot of scramble and they're trying to figure it out. The point is, I don't even care if Chuck Schumer is in the fucking file. He got the go. Regardless of go, he could be in the file with 40. Sacrifice yourself. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He could be in the file with 40 underage girls, right? Right.

He knows that Trump is not going to release the whole file. So knowing he's in it, he could still be like, this pussy won't release that shit. By the way, I agree what you're saying, but I don't want to hear from Chuck Schoombe. I agree. I think it should be the younger Democrats who haven't been career, lifer, elitist Democrats

who are leading this charge. I want to hear from all. No, because they're the hypocrites. They're the ones that are going to have to go. By the way, I don't. I've already said this a million times, and I've said this on the podcast four or five times already. If you're running for the future of the Democratic Party, you have to throw the old regime under the bus. And let's forget the Epstein files for a second because they lied to us about Biden.

I get it. I read the original sin. All of y'all that were complicit in that cover up, fuck you. I get it. But if you say pile on, it's going to be a lot louder if you're hearing from all the Democrats, instead of the small 10 that is the younger. I mean, true. But honestly, man, I think the biggest title wave that's coming to the most.

noise is being made by the people, right? That's why Andrew went so viral last week. That's why the Rogan clips are going to provide. That's why Candace Owen is going so far because these are the people that were championing Trump. So now when you hear the people that were championed, that's why I always say if you lie to people about Democrats, they won't believe you when you tell them the truth about Republicans and the reverse of that is true.

If you lie to people about Republicans, they won't believe you when you tell them about Democrats. Whether y'all realize it or not, who's getting, who's everybody, who's everybody, riding right now. In media, Chris? In media? In media. Who? Tucker Fucker Carlson. Because Tucker has chosen to tell the truth about a couple of issues. And being that he was a person who used to ride so hard for a party, when you hear him actually challenge that party, you believe him more. It's going to be the same thing with Andrew, at least from your people, it's going to be the same thing with Rogan, at least from his audience.

It's going to be the same thing with Canada on. And you're not just a cultist. And there are people, and the people in the cults will be angry. The people in the cults are always going to be angry at the defectors. That happens throughout history. You leave the cult, they're pissed at you. Or if you're part of an opposing cult, they're pissed at you. But the people who are willing to tell the truth will ultimately be trusted.

You have to hold people accountable. How many Democrat talking heads can you say that about it? How many Democrat talking heads can you say, damn? Bernie Sanders, Rokana. Bernie not even talking hate. He's an elected officials. Oh, oh, oh. Those are like the officials.

I'm talking about the talking heads. You're right. I'm Stuart. That's the only one I can think of. And I give Marr credit. Bill Maher. I give Bill Maher. I give Bill Maher.

When I say they're so few and far between those that are willing to truly challenge both sides. You, yo, shot me in the gun. I'm not a liberal, though. Don't nobody dick ride like a Democrat. Mm. All right, right. It's the truth. It's the true.

It's the true. Somehow, somehow. Maga's a cult. No, no, no. Everybody opens their eyes and now it's Magas are cussing Democrats for 45 minutes. Magas are cult. Democrats are dick riders.

Same fucking thing. Yeah, that's a same thing. And right now we got a Rocky Ford situation where this invincible Russian, probably a bad example, but this invincible Russian gets hit in the ring by Rocky and he bleeds and everybody's like, oh shit. He does have some weeks. And motherfuckers are saying, why do y'all care about him bleeding right there?

Yeah. But by the way, I was thinking about this, too, this is the switch gears a little bit. How do you politically go for the kill when he's in power? That's tough. And there's really nothing you can do. The kill. Midterms are coming up. No, no.

Is this a kill shot? Moment. The kill is. You all think midterms are going to be free. No, no. Watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch. Watch us. Watch us.

Watch us. Before the freedom fair. The kill is not harming Trump. The kill is fracturing the support in the base. Eroding the base. Exactly. Bring them where we are. Exactly.

The erosion, and that's why Democrats, the cultist Democrats, have handled this quite poorly. You're seeing his base for the first time in maybe the last decade be fractured on an issue. And instead of going, hey, guys, come over here. Because we're not, we actually want to give you that justice as you're talking about. understand he hate me he didn't lie about this he'll lie about other things instead of trying to bring them in build a coalition they're going you fucking idiots yep you dumb retards i told you oh yo you're not serious you're not serious that's all i'm trying the people that are doing there are democrats that are trying to bring people in i don't want to just a blanket statement

this but it seems like the talking heads like charlemagne was saying the people on instagram posting it's you're you're no different than the trump grifters you're the anti-trump grifters and you're just using it as a moment to get clicks, views, and attention. I feel like after January 6th, his base was a little bit fractured. Like, they weren't. No, they weren't. Initially going to support him again, like Republicans were trying to dis- Yeah, he won re-election after an insurrection.

No, no, I know. I'm saying like... Yo, this Epstein shit, I get what you're saying, but this Epstein shit has caused a fracture. Like, I've never seen in that party. I told you before the Epstein stuff, my father, who lifelong Republican, 40 years, 50 years before the absent thing broke went to a protest this year for my father to go out what made him go out what was it he's very concerned about the foreign wars he's very concerned about the economy i'm not going to lie the iran shit yeah and continuing to fund whatever the fuck bbby wants to do

is fracturing the base the base doesn't i think a lot of times the base doesn't really even understand what's happening internationally but they don't like this idea that like whatever bbby says Trump does. So it's less about like what's happening in foreign policy. It's more about the idea of like, do, does Trump have autonomy and can't he make decisions or is somebody else forcing him to make decisions? No. I mean, my father is, I would say, supportive of the immigration policies largely. So like, he's a Republican. Yeah. But now look, he's 82. He's yesterday's news. He's not representative of much. But he would have punched me in the face if I tried to get him to go to a In public, in his neighborhood, where people could see him.

That's what I'm trying to say? You would have punched me in the fucking... Democrats. You must be crazy. You have an opportunity right now. I've always called it like it is. It is up to you to decide what you do with it. You won't get many.

You won't get many. Oh, hold on. Let's take a step back. Sluat all the brilliant idiots listeners. I can... Shit. Now that I think about it, I ain't never heard Andrew say I was wrong. This might be the first time Andrew.

It missed being wrong about something. I'm not wrong yet. No, no, no. You're wrong, you're wrong. You're completely. I'm not wrong yet. No, no, no. You're hoping he reverses course.

Yes. But you're wrong in this moment. Okay, in this moment, yes. He is not doing the things he said he would do. But there is ideally a chance with pressure that that will have. I guess people get mad because of Chris's point. Donald Trump is a 50-year con man. So they're like, where the fuck were you in?

They're like, you're in New York. You're so stupid. You got cons. But it's like you also way overestimate my respect for the honesty of politicians. I assume they're all con men. I assume that they're all lying to me about what's going on and what's going to happen. So at this point, you have to just accept which lies seem better. If their lie, if one side is just going, hey, we're going to keep doing the exact thing that you hate.

and the other side is going, hey, we're going to do something different than that that sounds better. That is enticing to me. And also, can we just admit one thing? Yeah. He's just a good con man. What the fuck is that so hard to admit? If you've been getting people for this long, for this many years, and you won re-election twice, the highest seat in the land. F-all, y'all get the landlord shit and all of that, New York, all of that is one thing.

Yeah. I became president twice. Yeah? I wish y'all would try to tell me. I ain't the greatest motherfuckers. I'll be the first person. He does none of the shit that he promised he was going to do.

I'll be the first person admit that I was duped and I was conned. He does the stuff that he says he's going to do. I'll be the first person to give him credit. How about that? And the second that I see that he's not doing it, I'm the first person calling it out, right? Like, I feel like I've been pretty consistent on this shit.

I don't, I have no. The person with like tons of ego and pride would be like, yo, he's really playing 40 chess. Right. You know, he's all going to plan. Like, have I done that? Have I done any? You know, I do want to ask you because I guess I haven't paid no.

I feel like I've been pretty fair. How has Trump supporters responded to you? The only thing I saw was the White House. I think the Trump supporters that I've seen have all been like, yo, I do ride with Trump and Trump's still the man. I like what he's doing, but he is fucking up on this. That's what I keep here. They're making a caveat or they'll balance out the bag.

I like what he's doing with immigration. They'll say that kind of shit. I like what he's doing with this other stuff, but this is fucked up. To me, that speaks volumes. He's acknowledging at all that he's not doing something is the first time I've ever seen in the last decade. And you have an opportunity, Democrats, if you choose to seize it, and it's really on you.

What do you want to do? Do you want to win or do you want to say, I told you so? That's really what it comes. And you can do both, just keep it brief. Low key, you can. Yes, after you say, I told you so, you keep it to, I told you so. The problem is, and by the way,

I told you so doesn't get more votes. I told you so makes Republicans go, you know what? Fuck you guys. You guys lied about a Biden being seen out for four years. Don't you dare get on your high horse and act like you. You're right. You hold people accountable. You let that guy be dead for four years and said absolutely nothing.

I don't even like framing it as a Republican Democrat thing. I mean, I vote Democratic. I don't give a fuck about Democrat. Like, who cares? Yeah, I agree. It's got to be like Americans understanding that the system that we had was imperfect. Yes. And had a lot of flaws.

And we were getting frustrated. with it. Yeah. But this is a unique individual that really might smash it. You know what I hate when people repeat exactly what I said just more eloquent than me?

You know. I just fucking said that about 15 minutes. The same exact thing. We have the opportunity right now, Chris, to move forward and build something that we all truly want. Well, I'm not even talking about moving forward. I'm, like, kind of desperate

to maintain the status quo at this moment. I'm not, status quo is over. No, it's over, Chris. But what might be around the corner is so much worse than the status quo. We might, by the way, we might be too late. Might be. No.

We might be too late. You know, I'll watch a lot of moves that you, listen, I'm going to tell you something. I don't know, and I keep saying this over and over. I don't even know why we even, why people aren't raising hell about the Trump 2020s shit. Like, there's no reason for them to even be playing with that. There's no reason for Trump to be walking around. I don't know where to start. Even the Rosie Adonnells.

I don't think he's playing. I don't think he. I know he's not playing. I know he's not. I know he's not. Now, Rosie acknowledges fire. It's funny,

but like, the president should not be threatening to deport a U.S. citizen for criticism. No, revoke, revoke their citizenship. Whatever. Chris,

they focus. But it's small, but it's also not insignificant. No, it's not. Listen, I told y'all, well, I said it on breakfast.

Not insignificant. What you're going to see over the next week or so is a lot of flooding the zone. Sure. That was part of flooding the zone. Let me see if I can get everybody talking about Rosie O'Donnell and taking her citizenship. See if this will get people off the FD's shit.

You're going to see a lot of silly shit like that. Stay focused. You need some new moves. These moves ain't working no more. That's the other thing. And the Trump, as someone, again, who studied him for a long time, the Trump move is make every move you can make until you have no moves left. You know what you do when you have no moves left? You blow the joy.

Burn it down, baby. Burn it the fuck down. I don't want my shit getting burnt down. That's his move. He's playbook. I know the fucking playbook. Let me try this. Let me try that.

All right, fuck it. Where's the gas? Just fucking blow this. Blow this shit. I don't know. Okay, I'm on to the next thing. Let's pay some bills, man. We gave y'all the playbook.

It's up to y'all to run the motherfucking play. Church announcement show, Tee, what you got? Life on Netflix. You can watch that right now. We got a few cool podcasts out right now with Flay. We had Roe Cona on. We had the Potsave America Boys on. And, yeah, so go check those out.

I just want to tell everybody, man, I don't know when this episode is, what's the day? Today's Tuesday? Yeah, this episode might be out Wednesday or Thursday. I'll probably be gone by then, but I'll be in Walterboro, South Carolina this Thursday. You know, me and my wife, we opened up six crystals franchises, South Carolina. And this Thursday, we're opening up our second one in Walterboro. 1222 Bells Highway, Walterboro, South Carolina. We're having the ribbon cutting ceremony at 11 a.m. on Thursday.

So we're going to have food. We're going to have music. We're going to have giveaways. It's hosted by the South Eastern Chamber of Commerce. If you're hearing this before Thursday at 11, we'll see you there. If you're hearing it afterwards, thank you for coming, man. I appreciate y'all. That should bring about 40 more jobs to the community of Walterborough.

We bought like 40 plus more jobs to the community of Orangeburg. So it should be like 40 more for the community of Walterborough. Amazing, man. Thank y'all, man. You know, Crystal. So they're cooking there, they're doing well. Yeah, Crystal is, I mean, Crystal was down south before. You know, it's like the Down South White Castle.

God. Oh, in a lot of ways. So, you know, it was down there before. They left South Carolina for a while, and, you know, we've been bringing them back. So, you know. That's fired, dude. God is good. You know, every business you do is not going to work, but this one seems to be doing, doing okay.

So let's keep it going. That's great. You know. Did you see Superman? see Superman? No, not yet. I saw sinners, though. You finally saw sinners? I finally saw sinners. Wow, what do you think? I thought it was really good. I thought it was really good. Yeah, I thought that, uh, yeah, I thought it was like beautifully shot. Ryan Coogler, man, like beautifully shot. Ryan Coogler, man. Um, yeah, I thought it was really good. I don't know. I thought it was really good.

About, um, the scene, the party scene. Oh, the party scene. I, I was all right. I loved it. That was amazing. You just can't dance. That was. That was amazing. You just can't dance. That That's why you don't like that shit. I grew up in a dance studio. I grew up in a dance studio. They couldn't do that shit they was doing, though. Of course they could. It's the exact stuff they were teaching.

They were instrumental in prolonging that. But yeah, I don't know. The dance scene, I loved it. I loved that history lesson. It was so good. I would like to say, well, you know, Ryan Coolewell, you know James. What did you think about it? I thought it was nice.

Really? I thought it was one of the best things I ever seen in cinema. That's the way it was shot? And very experimental. That was a high risk and executed. That shit worked, man. You know, listen, man, y'all every... Hollywood needs to understand one thing.

Give creatives the money and let creatives create and get the fuck out. When they're that talented, yeah. When there's that talented. Not everybody's that talent. Like, yeah, Coogler's just like a... But you have to be a certain level of talent to even, you know... He's a once... He's like, he's a generational guy.

Like, he's really fucking good. He's fantastic. It was... trying to get him for DC right now. And they should. He's smart. I mean, because Gunn is one of those guys who's he's not playing around. I haven't seen Superman yet, but I want to ask you about that.

But I will say with sinners, the kid in it. Miles. It's my guy. Met him in Cairns, man. He's fantastic. He's fantastic. I fuck with Miles. He got it.

I met Miles. Is he a musician by trade? I really don't know Miles story. It's weird because it was one of those things, but we were in cans. We were at Dee Nice's party and he came up to me and he was talking to me and it's just,

it's always interesting to me when guys, that young. Is that his voice in real life too? We were in the club, I don't know. I just thought he was... We talked with that, you know what I'm saying? I thought he was so good. He does sing.

He can sing. That song that he sings. Oh, you mean singing-wise? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, I think he actually... No, he does sing. He does sing. He's a good kid. He got a good spirit.

I only met him that one time in Cairns. You know, he came up to me and we chopped it up and we talk. I'm sure you'll see him on Breakfast Club soon, but he's a good dude, man. Yeah. He got a good spirit and a good energy about him. And yes, like you said, he pops on screen. Pops in real life.

Wait, but was that before or after you didn't let the gay guy drink from your body? It was the same time. It was all in front. It was all the same thing. Did you hear that? Same thing. She wasn't here with it. No.

No, you didn't hear that? I don't even want to bring that back. I don't want to talk about it. But I will say this. I realize this about James Gunn watching Superman. What did you think of Superman? I thought it was, uh, I thought it was really good. You know, it was, it was really good because it was corny.

But, but corny on purpose, right? That's Superman. Yeah, like, they lean into. That's who Superman always has been. Yeah. This corny, you know, campy, hopeful, sometimes cringe. Like, they got them saving a squirrel in the middle of them fucking,

the city crumbling. It's like, you know, but that's Superman. But that's the intention. They are leaning into the character. If you ever read the comics, Superman always put every, before himself. Yeah. He always wanted to protect everybody.

I always use this analogy, like when you're a giant, you got to watch your step. If you're a giant that has empathy, a giant that has empathy has to watch their step because you know you can crush people. That's how Superman has always presented himself in the comic books, and that really came across in this film. I mean, he's getting his ass kicked 75, 80 percent of the fucking movie. But he's got that Holhagen factor. It's like right when you think it's over, you know, he starts waving his finger and he comes back to life.

But the thing I like about it the most, I don't think there's nobody who could write that better than James Gunn. I think James Gunn is, man, I want to see James Gunn do like a full-fledged comedy. I haven't seen that yet. I mean, I'm not saying that he hasn't. I just haven't seen it yet. Yeah. I want to see James Gunn do a full-fledged dark comedy because he's that. good of a comedy writer. When you think about the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.

That's what I was hoping Superman would be a little bit like, like have that type of vibe. It does. Oh, but it's not corny, though. It's pretty... Well, Superman is corny. The guy's running around in fucking tights, bro, in red trunks, like with a tape. I was hoping he would bring that Guardians of the Galaxy vibe to Superman. It is. It is. It is. And then, you know what? Superman made me go, I had already watched the penguin. I told y'all about Blue Beetle. I really enjoyed Blue Beetle. Superman made me watch Peacemaker Oh

Because there's a But he made me go back and watch Peacemaker What you James Gunn did Shit is fantastic I'm gonna tell you something man Between the Harley Quinn character Between Blue Beetle Between the Penguin series

Between this new Superman movie Between Peacemaker DC got my attention DCE's DCEU They got my attention They're way I think they're way on top of Marvel right now

Wait. What's Marvel got right now? Marvel still got a 10-year great run. No, no, I'm saying currently, currently. What does Marvel drop that anybody's give a fuck about? Marvel's still so far ahead, far ahead. It's going to take DC four or five years. Fantastic Four Flops.

They got Avengers. The Deadpool was just two years ago, and I did a billion. I ain't even watch it. I've enjoyed everything on TV for Marvel more so than in the theater. Oh, the Ironies. Iron Heart was fantastic. Eddouble was fantastic. All right.

I've enjoyed all the TV shit way more than the movie. All the movies have been made to me, except for Deadpool Wolverine. But the way Superman, because Superman's the Iron Man of this new universe. So he's setting off this new DC-EU. I mean, they even set up the next film in Superman,

which is going to be Supergirl, right? It's like, they got some dope shit. And if they bring Ryan Cougler in, And they was asking, what should Ryan Cougler do? I think he should be the person that establishes the milestone comics in this universe. What does that mean? What do you mean? Milestone is static shock.

Milestone is hardware. Milestone is icon and rocket. Like, that is a really dope group of characters that DC did with my man, um... I don't know you're talking about. Why the fuck is Dennis Colwyn? I was just with it. I don't know any of these. But that's my point.

Don't, don't do that. I think don't waste them on that. Yeah, give him. Give him Batman. Give him some heat. Give him Batman. Yeah. Imagine he does a Batman trilogy right now.

That should go crazy. A Batman. Why did we love Marvel? The first 10 years? Man, it was a great story. Great stories based off a bunch of characters we didn't really know. Okay. Ryan could do wonders with stats.

First of all, people love Static Shock. Like, Static Shock is that. actually probably the most, he is the most popular character from Miles Stone, but these people have great stories. Now, what I like to see, Brian can do some other stuff. They got Greenlander coming out though. They got AirMPS playing John Stewart. Greenland is a Superman. Superman is good. I can't even front you. I can't. It's just a good film. It was good, right? I like what James Gunn so far is doing with the DC universe. I'm, I'm intrigued. What about there was some backlash saying that there's like Israel, Gaza, like, or esk thing that happened in Super Bowl?

I didn't see none of that. No. Israel Gaza? They're saying that there's like two countries that- It looks like Israel got it. You know what's so funny about that? So Israel's the first country that ever invaded another country and tried to seize it? Like, isn't Russia doing that to Ukraine right now? Doesn't China want to do that to Taiwan?

Has an America? Yeah, this is just people project saying like, cultural events. The Mike Francesca clip? No, what's the Mike Francesca clip? going around today. What is that? Eight minutes long. Yeah.

What is it? Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus. Stunk. As for someone who is a old-time TV show Superman guy trying to get entertained for a couple hours

and wants to see Superman, this movie was pure torture to sit through. Torture. I mean, I'll tell you this. My name was on the critics. I'd hide it. That's how bad it was.

This was two hours. of this new Superman. He wasn't Christopher Reed, but he was okay Superman. Two hours of him getting the crap beat out of him. Who wants to get beat up for two hours? He's getting beat up

by everybody. Plus, you have other superheroes in the movie. I didn't go there to see some guy named Mr. Terrific. I didn't go there to see the Green Lantern or some lady named Hawks something or something. I don't know who even know who she was.

Okay, these other superheroes. No, he's not. He's not into the comments. This is a Superman movie. Now, I will say this false. Now, he didn't say, now there's one thing he didn't say. He didn't want, he didn't say. There's one thing to say.

I love Mr. Terrific in the movie. I love Greenland. I love Hoggera. That's not who was saving Superman ass throughout the whole movie. It was the goddamn dog. All right. Crypto is the star of this motherfucker. Really?

Yes, man. Crypto is the star in his film. What did he hate about the movie so much? He just didn't like that Superman was getting beat up so much. That's Superman! They didn't read the comics. That's Superman. They didn't read the comics.

They didn't read the comics. Most people's idea of Superman is based on the movies or the TV show. And it's just this invincible guy. He was never as dark as the Snyder Superman. Right. You know what I mean? To me, this is more like the 70s movies. Right?

Like to me, this is more like the Christopher Reeves. Everybody was saying it was woke. I didn't find it woke at all. Superman stopped a war. Yeah. That's woke. That's woke? Superman stopping a war?

Yeah, that's what Superman would do. I don't know. I thought it was good. And you know, I hate D.C. You know what I'm saying? It was good, but it's corny. Yeah. There's going to be moments where you're like,

oh, that was so, it was so cringed. It's so corny. It's crazy. But that's Superman. That's why I've never liked D.C. Yeah. You know what I mean? But James Gunn made this shit work.

He's got my, I'm interested. I'm interested, man. Let's pay some bill to do some African idiots, Chris. Bannon just said that if Epstein, sorry, if Trump doesn't release the Epstein file, they're going to lose 40 seats. They're going to lose 40 seats in the midterings. Told you the midterms.

I got to see it to believe it. Told you. You know, by the way, that's just my lack of faith in the Democrats. You know what I mean? I just don't see them having the team are the message to win in the midterms. I think we've seen and realized that Trump being bad is not good enough.

Trump being a liar is not good enough. You've got to offer something better. That's it. Simply vilifying your opponent isn't going to do it. You have to offer a better option. Now, can we go back to how Trump won? Not only did he villainize his opponent. He offered a better option.

He offered, I don't think he offered a better option. He said he would. What he said was better. Offer. Yes. I'm going to decrease the budget. I'm going to put more money in your pocket. I'm going to bring back the wall.

I'm going to bring back factories. I'm going to stop illegal criminals from terrorizing your neighborhoods and taking all your jobs. We can't sit here and act like we don't understand why this shit didn't work. Other than the fact, yes, we know he's a con man. We know he's a liar.

You can't believe anybody would ever believe him, but they did. Yeah. Okay. Now what? New New deal. Say again? That's my plan.

The new new deal. What is the new new deal, Chris? I haven't fully worked it out yet. Typical Democrats. All right, let's do some asking idiots, man. Austin J. Hughes wants to know what podcast do you listen to in your spare time as limited as that might be? Fantastic question, Austin. I listen to Flagrant.

I listen to the weekly show with John Stewart. I listen to the Native Land podcast with Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum, and Tiffany Cross. I mean, I listen to a lot of podcasts. I own a podcast network. So, I mean, I listen to damn everything on Black Effect for the most part. But, yeah, if you're asking me who do I listen to just for pure entertainment? Like, who do I turn on when I'm riding? It's probably those.

And Mel Robbins. Debbie Brown, deeply well. Drink champs, depending on who the guest is. Who else? Damn, it's a lot. Theo Vaughn. I listen to a lot of podcasts. I mean, podcast and books is really, that's my source of consumption.

That's what I like to entertain, consume. What do you listen to? I believe that. No, I listen to, honestly, I listen to everything through clips and either like, not Instagram clips, but also like YouTube video. So it might be like a 10, 12, 18 minute YouTube video. So, obviously, Breakfast Club. I'll listen to some Pod Save America.

I listen to Pod sometimes. Yeah. I listen to Theo. I listen to Rogan. Oh, I listen to Rogan, of course. And then I'll listen to like some random like history dudes. I'll listen to Breaking Points. That's a saga and crystal.

I'll watch, I'm trying to think of others that I'll listen to. But yeah, I'll just watch a bunch of clips. You know who I like listening to? I like listening to the Grits and Eggs podcast hosted by, Deontay Kyle. Okay. Rich Nags podcast is funny. Because Deontay is a,

he's just a super sharp dude, man. You know what I'm saying? And he's funny, but he'd be having some really good, some really good just insights on things. Like, you know, like he's one of those people that he does, he goes one on, one to the camera. Like how Loon does, you know what I'm saying?

Sluke to Loon with his stuff on their podcast. So it's just him, you know, talking to the camera, like giving these monologues and he's, he's really, he's really good. I like listening to him. He's somebody I've been listening to lately. So, yeah, I listen to a lot of podcasts, man. A lot of podcasts.

Put me on to something new if you got it. Hold on. Go back to number two because that was fantastic. Come on. There's a better one down here. It is. Number nine. If you're going to talk about Epstein, there you go.

Okay, let's go back to nine. Let's go to two. We can come back to nine. I like nine, but two is good. This is from Just Give Me Your Number. Would you rather be named in the Epstein files are being listed as a participant in the Diddy Park? Diddy Park.

Yes Diddy party Consensual sex Also he just had parties That weren't Yeah when you say Participant in the Diddy parties I could have been to a Diddy Party

That's not mean I was You didn't say participant In the freak off But even though to freak off It was consensual Yeah but even I just I don't know I'm just looking at it

From participant in the Diddy party Yes I'll go to a Diddy party Have a drink dance You didn't say participant In the freakoffs with Diddy But I mean the Epstein you could have just going to the island? No.

No. There's no reason to get, no. There was absolutely no reason to just be on Epstein Island. There was no reason to just be on Epstein's plane. But we know your answer, Alex. That's good, that you. No, I was just saying, I was giving you guys. Andrew brought up a great point earlier, man.

This man got, he was a convicted pedophiles in 2006, or convicted sex defender. Yeah, Q's 2005. And I think in 2008, it was convicted. With 08? I know it was 0 something. Yeah, 2000 something. 2008? I think by 2008, he's on the, he was, he was.

He's registered sex offender. Why are you kicking it with him for any reason? Yeah. Come on. Say less. Why you want a plane? Why you have a dialing? Say less.

For what reason? Say less. Act's Trump. Well, I don't know. I don't think we have Trump with him after that. I mean, he knew he liked him young. He knew he liked him young early. Yeah.

That is facts. He did say he likes him young. The Rico Graham said, would Guy Cole be controversial today? I don't know. Yes, it would be only because it would be misogynistic. But the show is called Guy Cole. Yeah, we could get away with it this year.

We couldn't get away with it two years ago. We couldn't get away with it four years ago. Yeah, I mean, listen, I haven't watched the episode in a while to see how it is age. But I just know it would be misogynistic. It was about Guy Cole. Hell yeah. We literally did a parody song about fucking our balls,

you know. Yeah, it was so fire. How to make our balls not stick to our legs. I think it's light, because now if you look at the red pill, Manosphere, all that stuff. That's way worse than this stuff, yeah. Yeah, but they're not on, like, Comedy Central or MTV.

It was just on network TV. Like, the red pill shit is on the fringes of the internet. Yeah, and you know it's so wild about the red pill stuff, it's like a lot of them come off as angry. It's wild when you, like, on TV to Andrew's point, and it's misogynistic and it's funny. Y'all are happier? We're happy about this?

That's why we can get away with it. We weren't some angry dudes. We're just having fun out here, man. And you know what's so ill about guy cold, you know what MTV too did? Or really MTV. They was just like, make girl code and let the girls be just as outrageous. Exactly. And that's exactly what the fuck happened.

And those girls were stars, man. Nicole Byer? Stars. Stars. Carly Aquilino? Star. What are we talking about? Nessa?

What are we talking about? What are we talking about? It's a great time. Man, come on. Jesse May Paluso. It was a great time. Oh, oh. What a time.

Can you believe we got paid for that? what, $500 an episode? Yeah. Sure. I can imagine. Yeah, sure. Yeah, we got paid for that. Nah.

That was, I think, the richest. I think that was the richest that will ever, I can't speak for you, but like, it will ever feel because it was the biggest jump from, like, having no money to having, like, some money. You're like, what? Man, I was, I had just, I was coming off being fired. I think I've been doing Breakfast Club two, three years.

MTV came with an overall deal. It was $55,000 a year. And I just thought it was dumb. I'm like, oh, shit, I got two salaries. It's free money. You know what I'm saying? I got Preference Club, and I got the overall deal in MTV. I was like, okay, cool.

So, yes, I understand exactly what you mean. I got an overall deal from MTV. This is after, you probably got an overall before Guy Code. They locked through off for everything. So this is after the success of Guy Code, like I think I was on some shit, and then they offered an overall deal. And I was the first talent. I think you were, yeah, because you also had the hip-hop show. There's a few things.

And I remember I got this overall deal and I remember thinking there's nothing on this planet I can't buy. I remember thinking that. I was like, there's nothing I can't buy. It was, I think it was for $125,000. or something like that. My agent takes 10. My manager takes 10. The lawyer probably took five.

The business manager took five. So you're looking right off the top. 30% is gone. But in your head, it's not gone. In your head, you got $125,000. 30% of that shit is gone. Plus, the government takes $50. So I really got like $10.

You know what I mean? But in my head, I was like, I can order anything on any menu on the planet. That's why I don't understand this new generation. I hate to sound like the old uncle, but I really don't understand this new generation of people. I lived in New York in 2006, from 2006 to 2007, not making a goddamn dime.

Wendy just gave me a place to stay. And then when I started Breakfast Club and was doing MTV, we weren't making crazy, crazy amounts of money. But we still were having fun and somehow figuring out a way to make things work. Like, I don't get it. We have more hope. I think what's happening with this generation is like

the illusion of hope is valuable. I didn't realize this, but like the illusion of hope is valuable. For example, like having all these different networks

that had shows that you could hope to be on one day was very valuable. Now the only way people think they'll make it is if they go viral on TikTok. And that just feels

so uncontrollable, right? They're like, well, what does go viral? Do I have to interview someone on the street? Do I have to fall out of a building? Like maybe gatekeepers weren't so bad after all.

Well, I think for guys like me and Charlemagne, they were bad because it's like, we'll build some shit. We'll actually do it. Not everybody's willing to do that. Some people like the structure. They like a system. Like, I just learned how to edit

because I'm like, I guess I need to edit my own shit. I learned all the things to put myself on. But not everybody's going to go do that. And those people often won't make it within structure. But they have the illusion that they can. And right now they don't have that illusion. because it doesn't seem like there's any networks putting people on. It doesn't seem like there's any record labels that are putting people on.

So I think that they're dealing with this like, how do you make? We benefited from structure. The reason I say we benefited from structure is because when you're in these systems and you get to see how these systems work, you know how to apply them to what it is you want to do independently. Of course, absolutely. So you can't build something you've never seen. Absolutely. And not everybody's a builder.

There's a lot of people that are just pure raw talent. Like we see this with musicians all the time. They're pure raw talent, but they're not going to go out there and, like, really truly manage and understand the PR of their career. They're just the most pure and raw talent. And they benefit from structure around them. So those people, if they're not caught up by a good manager or whatever, I guess could fall by the wayside now. So I understand the, what is it, the despair, I guess I would say that like Gen Z is kind of going through a little bit right now where they're like, how the fuck do I make it? Like, what do I do?

How do I build? And what I would implore them to do is go, it's not luck with going viral. Like you can figure out how to make great shit. And great shit goes viral. Shit goes viral too. But great shit gets attention every time. It might not get attention as there's somebody falling out of a building, but it will get attention if you consistently make great shit. So I would hope that they get excited about the opportunity they have.

But I understand a little bit of the disillusion. I agree. Commoda 13 said, would you suck a cop. If it meant all the Epstein files would get released saving hundreds of kids or would you have sucked the cock to stop Fsteen? Listen, I commend you for doing that, man. I honestly think that that's one of the coolest things you've ever said on the podcast. I would grab a male rooster and suck that male rooster. I would just take that rooster.

Suck the feathers. Suck it right off. Suck it right off. Actually, I would do it to stop Epstein. period, not even to save the kids. Fusk the, suck the rooster. Suck the toes, suck the claws. Yeah, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I probably wouldn't suck the, I don't have to suck the claws. I'd suck the body of the rooster. You got to suck it all. Yes, so, yes, I would suck a cock to make sure Epstein never exists. You're a brave man. Yeah, roo.

I appreciate you for that, man. Yes. Ooh, this is a good one. Shala, you like screamers if your daughter wanted to scream, what would you say? That's coming from dog. dot 50. I don't know. That's a good question.

I mean, I would have to see what the intention is to screaming. You know what I mean? Like, what is her intention? You know what I mean? What is she trying to put out to the world? Because broadcasting might be

in her blood because of who her daddy is. You know, so yeah, I would want to see what her intention is. And if she came to me and said she wanted to scream, I would tell her to have an intention, have a purpose, and like actually produce. something. You know what I mean? Like that's

like I always, I give Kai the most props because he actually does things. Even if it's even like, I saw him and I show speed the other day. They were dressed like Mario and Luigi. And they were like, we're going to play Mario and Luigi in real life. Until we beat the game. Okay. And they're dressed like Mario and Luigi.

That's production value. You know what I mean? That's giving the people It's more than just turning the camera on and causing chaos. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, it just depends on what it is that she would be doing. We had neon on the show.

Yeah, yeah. How was that? That's cool. I feel like the old uncle talking to them little 20-year-old kid. I was sitting there. I'm like, yo, 10 years ago, you was 10, bro. Yeah, that's crazy. I've been doing radio for, I've been doing radio longer than somebody like neon's been a lot.

Yeah. Now, the one thing I will say about all of those screamers, I'm not going to say all of them, but the people like a neon are, Or even when I did Matan show, I don't know, not Matan so much. I don't think they expect to receive what it is they put out. So they might be the type that trolls all of the time and tries to get the joke off on people. But you're dealing with veterans. It ain't going to work the same.

I've been doing this, then got punched in the face. You know what I mean? People have tried to kill you like that. That stuff y'all doing is cute. It's cool, but we really do that over here. So I noticed that when they're with you on your platform or you're with them and you're fucking with them, their audience gets upset. Oh wow, that's hilarious.

You know what I mean? They want to see them fuck with somebody, not them get fucked with. Exactly. I think you've learned a valuable lesson that a lot of other screamers haven't learned yet, and that there's consequences to your actions and there's consequences to your words. your words. So when you out in the street, people are going to try you. Like you saw, when A.B. got

into it. Well, that was Aidan Ross event, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, those guys that jumped your manager, like, shit is real. So it's like these guys that be talking slick online, you know, people gonna see. Oh, yeah, no, there's definitely consequences. And I've dealt, yeah, I've just been very lucky because, like,

with the shit I've done in the past, like, I should be like, like, someone could have done something to me, like, bad, for sure. And I, and, you know, thank God nothing happened, but it's just like, I'm blessed. So that's always interesting to me to watch. But, I mean, Neon seemed like a good kid. Like, you know, he said that he used to do a lot of wild shit, and he's evolved.

Yeah. Who am I? Who am I? I let people grow up. They tell him he's full of shit. People was hitting me up saying, ah, he's full of shit. He's a liar. I'm like, bro, you've got to let people grow. He's 20 years old.

Now, I don't like that shit. He said about, you know, Kai and Kai's mother. Oh, my God. What did he say? I don't even want to repeat it. But there was some wild shit. There was some shit that, yeah, you should get punched in the face. Oh, wow.

You know what I'm saying? And by the way, it's okay to get punched in the face for some shit that you said. Right. I've had it happen to meet a couple of times. No, I mean, no, it's not okay. No, it is okay. Yeah, yeah. Because you can't control how somebody reacts to the words that come out of your mouth.

Right. So the thing, and I told him this in the interview, I told him, I said, you learned something that a lot of your peers haven't learned you. and that there is consequences for your words and your actions. He was telling us about how his manager got jumped and some people saw what he lived at and pulled up in masks and all types of shit like that.

So it's just like, yeah, I'm glad you learned that early because in this day and age, that shit could end up bad. You can end up bleeding out on screen. That's just the reality to the situation. Let's do a couple more. The kid underscore Coley says, Would you rather be pro by aliens

or party with Diddy? Party with Diddy. I've already been proled by Elie. I've never partied with Ditty. You got to see a Diddy party, bro. No, no. I've been proled by aliens. It's not, you don't even remember.

This guy is just... God, damn. This is the... I'm gonna end with this question, even though it makes no fucking sense. Rom VT says, Dick Talk. If you could trade dicks with anyone else

dead or alive, who'd it be? Wow. All right. All right, all right. This is a good one, man. You're a guy who died. Why you open your fucking mouth, bro, when you start thinking about the dicks. I was yawning.

God, damn. You did start open mouth. Yeah, come on. Okay, so the two ways to look at this. You could look at who's fucking the girl you want to fuck, and then you trade dicks with them. But that, just because you trade, just because you trade, just you trade, just you trade dicks doesn't mean you still get to fuck them. Yeah.

So you just get in. What if they got a little dick when they fucking, just because they're fucking the girl, you want to fuck them? Yeah. They got the kind of dick you want. You're not trading bodies with them. You're trading bodies with them. Oh, like the dicks are locked into your force skin. I mean, the memories are locked in.

Yeah, yeah. You know what's so gay about this? You really got to go on a dick hunt. You do. Like, you got to peep the dicks. Like, it's like being in the store and like, you got to look at it and say, ooh, that's good one. You got to see it hard because some, they might be big soft.

So. But then not that big hard. Someone got to make it hard. Somebody got to make it hard. Hey, if you got a test, you got to test drive the car. Like, if you want to buy a car, you want to buy a car, you want to buy a car. car, you got to drive it. That's it.

You know what I'm saying? If you want the wine, you got to taste it. Exactly. You want to sotamah or not? Yeah. If it's a bunch of flaccid dicks and you're looking, you're like, damn, that looks cool, but how would that look hard? But, that's what's going to get it hard.

That butt. That butt. I don't know, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple of idiots If you don't know shit, you're right, too.

It's the Burry Nidious Podcast. Thank you for listening.