The Brilliant Idiots - The Feeling You King

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

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To the guy who said, I'll marinate the chicken, then forgot. Hi, you're a Safeway PA announcer here. We've got pre-marinated meat. So all that's left is pretending you made it yourself. I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby.

The Brilliant Idiots Podcasts. Yep, Shalam. We are the Brilliant Idiot's Podcast. We are the Brilliant Idiot's Podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant. idiotness. I saw you down in the ATL shoddy. With the goat Dubizie Duvall.

Man, he told me the funniest story about you. I don't even know if we could say it. I had a story. What was the story? About when it happened, he called you first. And he called you playing. I did, man. I was crying. He told me about this.

So I go down. I go to Atlanta, right? And I'm like, I want you to tell this story. Tell it. All right. So I got, I got to see Duvall. I'm like, yo, let's grab some dinner or something like that. Like, can you even leave the house?

I don't know how fucked up Duval is, whatever. He's like, yeah, man. So I'm telling him about some restaurant and like Buckhead. He goes, nah, they robbing over there. We can't go to Buckhead. Buckhead's supposed to be the nice part too. Yeah, they're not playing it. They said, they said, if you got a luxury car and Buckhead, just roll your windows down because the window's getting broken.

You better off leaving the windows down. So he's like, fuck it. Let's go to Magic City. I'm like on a Monday, bro. like that. He's like, yeah, let's do it. So we're in Magic City. And, you know, we're going through what happened to him. It's like tragic event where he almost died. He goes, yeah, man, you know, it was crazy. First person I called was Charlotte. FaceTime me. Yeah. He was, yeah, man, I got hit by the car. I flew. My shit is all fucked up

up. And I knew I'm in the Bahamas. Like, I've been to his house in the Bahamas. Like, I don't think I was the first person he called. Maybe like second or third. Nah, bro. The lady came up to him. Because the lady who hit him came up to him. He said, go inside, get my old lady. Yeah. And then he had the phone. He goes, he goes, I call. Charlotte. I called Charlotte. I said, I'm sitting there, I go. Charlotte picks up the phone, he goes, what's up?

I go, man, I fucked up, man. I go, man, he goes, I need you to call ludicrous. He didn't get to that that was the end part. That was the end part. Oh, that's. Yeah. Okay, what happened to him? He FaceTime me, and he's laid out on something. Right? He's got the neck brace on and everything.

Fucked up, man. I'm thinking he's on a set. So I'm like, I'm like, what's up, man? He's like, man, I fucked up, man. I fucked up. I said, what's wrong? You need me to call Trey?

Talking about Trey the truth. Because, you know, Trey's the go-to guy when somebody needs relief. I said, what's up? You need me to call Trey? He's like, no, man, I fucked up. I'm going to be performing, living my best life in a wheelchair.

And I'm like, man, wiggle your toes, man. You know what I'm not? It's not dawning on me that something is really wrong with him. So I'm playing. I'm thinking, listen, all we do is joke on each other, showed you notice.

He said, he said, you're like, hold on my wife's calling. Let me call you back. I did, that's a lie. In a time of need, that's not true.

That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. Because, you know, after about three minutes. That's how Charlotte gets off every phone call, by the way. He goes, oh, hold on,

my wife calling. Let me call you back. I've been on the phone with him in his house, hearing his wife in the background, and him just go, oh, hold on, my wife, call me.

I got to call you right back. I hear your wife, bro. I was on the phone with Duval for like 10 minutes, and it took me about five to realize, hold up, something might be wrong because I can't see, I hear all these people around him, but it looks like a set.

Yeah. And then at some point, he started crying. Yeah. And I'm like, yo, he's really selling this shit, right? He's actually selling this shit. And then when he turned the camera, all I see is the blood and shit

I said, I'm like, that's a good ass fucking job they did with the makeup and shit. But it's like the doctors went to turn him over and he just started screaming like, ah! Ah! And then I'm like, what the fuck

is going on? And then he goes, hey man, call ludicrous for me, man. Tell ludicrous in the plane. I'm like, tell ludicrous in the plane. He was like, and then somebody said, you got to hang up, you got to hang up, you got to hang up. And I'm still not sure. So I called Clay, right?

I'm like, so if this is a joke, he ain't called Clay yet. I'm like, Clay, what's up? And Clay was like, yeah, yeah, he's high off the morphine or whatever. And I'm like, oh, so now it's all making sense. Yeah. But the moral of the story is, y'all are comedians, bro. Yeah, so never take us seriously. I don't know something's wrong until I know something's wrong.

Even in time of need when your friend's head is bleeding. Come on, man. Come on, man. It's nothing personal. They got on me this week because, you know, the Joe Coy interviewed by they, I mean, the internet. Like, I didn't know Joe was, Joe was really going through something. I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm thinking they're coming up there to, they're back. All of y'all are always performing shows. Yeah, yeah. Am I lying? But Joe was crying. No, he cried with you. And you sat there with the smirk of all smirks, smiling from ear to ear. I watched the fucking video, yo.

I'm like, how the fuck are they getting at me? Did you have some, did you have the Filipino community in your comments? They were very supportive. They thought it was beautiful. Yeah, really? Because I wasn't making racist jokes like you. If you make a racist joke, right? Yeah.

Right on time. Chris Monroe walks in the room. He heard. He heard. So, joke boy, he tells the story about, and he's told this in his book, if you've ever heard his book, but he tells the story about how his white guy was making fun.

We laughed at this. Of his mom. We have to this. Because it's Joe. Joe, he grabbed his eyes and pulled his eyes back. starts making these crazy-ass noises and shit. So I'm thinking it's a joke because it actually was funny. Then when I laugh, he's like, it's not a joke.

So why did you make it a joke? Yeah. He made it a joke. Well, it was a joke from the kid. The kid was making a joke. Yes. And so he was imitating the kid's joke. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that not funny, Schultz? No, that was, did he tell you who that kid ended up becoming? No, who? Me. Shut up. That's why he was crying on flagrant. I was like, man, that shit still his, huh?

Listen, man. No, kids do the darnest things. Yes, they do. They do the darndest things. And I don't even know if that kid was making a joke. What do you think is? He was doing a bad imitation of an Asian person. Ah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if he met. I don't know, man. The moral of the story is it's hard to take comedians serious. Okay, that's really the moral of the story. But are you also seeing how this might be like a you thing? Like when somebody's going through something traumatic, your reaction is just... What do you mean, man?

I was not... I promise you, I'm just a little slow. I'm not thinking Duvall's calling me telling me that he almost died in a goddamn four-wheel of accident. And why would I think... If the first two lines are, I'm going to be doing best life in a wheelchair. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to tell you about the most traumatic thing that's ever happened to me. You see the fact that you need to prepare.

Oh, I do. Y'all, the media. You tell me. All y'all is get on stage and sell trauma and it's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So give me a second. So you see if you can not laugh or smile. And I'm going to tell you about the.

most brutally traumatic thing that's ever happened to me. Okay. And also, somebody is me projecting a little bit too. Sure. Because when it's getting uncomfortable, it's like, yo, bring this shit back to the last, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm listening.

So I'm going to just tell you just, this is something, this is. Not capable. Not capable. In any way, shape of course. I'm not laughing at the setup. I'm not laughing at the, what happens. This is, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, fucked up thing.

Okay. That happened to my life. Can you look at me? Okay. Okay. Okay. All right.

What I'm saying? That's not fair, yo. That is not fair. It's not fair. It's not fair. Yo. Okay. Okay.

All right. All right. I'm ready. You are 100% ready. I'm ready. Right. Okay. You can't cover your face.

See? This is not. Why am I the only one? You can't cover your face. You're not taking them serious. Oh, I can be. Are you capable?

Incapable. What do you mean? If Taylor was to tell me a traumatic story, I wouldn't laugh. Oh, oh, Taylor. What? Okay. There you go. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Go. Okay. Go. No, you got to go to the mic. Now's the time to do it, Taylor, if you're going to do it. It has to be a traumatic.

It has to be traumatic. Like, truly like heart, like, like, gut wrenching. gut-wrenching and fucked up. And like one of the worst things... Yeah, but was it one of the worst things ever happened? Me? Yeah.

I'm a little scared. Okay. Go, go, go. Okay, go, go. But you have to tell it seriously. You have to tell us. This isn't could have died. You're here.

Duval could have died. Yeah, yeah. But he's here. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, go. So I think I told us already, though.

I went to a club and they were, you know, drinking, smoking, that right. Why are you laughing already? I guess. So I'm laughing at you. I'm not laughing at you. I'm listening.

I'm not even listening. You do what I do. I'm about to laugh at some serious. No. What I do is I fix my face like I'm more interested. What I'm trying to do is be. Like I go like this. No.

No. No. What I'm trying to do is. Oh no. What I'm trying to do is be objective. I know her. I got. This story is not going to live up to expectation.

We know this about it. All right, go. But you got to be serious about it. Really set the table of how traumatic this was. Go, look at his face trying to be interested, like, to come up to laugh. Exactly. You can make me love. All right.

So I went to a party like a... What is the problem here? I'm listening. No, stop. Go ahead. Alice was there? Go back, go back. Oh.

Go, go, go, go. Okay. Go, go, go, go. Look. And that's how you act, but your daughter's trying to tell you something. I'm just listening. All right. So, I had a seizure.

What? Yes. What you mean? You had a seizure. I was on a date and I had a seizure. You had a seizure this weekend. Yeah. Hold on.

Man, shut the fuck up, Joe. Why would you dare laugh at that? This guy is insane. Why is this guy a man, man, y'all? Why would you... This guy is a fucking mad. This guy is a fucking animal out. Why would he...

This guy is crazy. This guy's crazy, yo. This guy's crazy, yo. This guy is crazy. What happened? What happened? And this happened this weekend. Yeah, this happened.

So you guys are on. a date and then where at brunch we're in Brooklyn um this is like my second third date with him yeah and was it while you're ordering no i was can i get some p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p that That don't count Because that was a joke That don't count That don't count I'm laughing at an actual joke

That don't count I bet you the date was telling a joke And she just started laughing He's like I'm killing right now Actually no this what y'all gonna laugh at This is y'all gonna laugh at Okay go go We're not laughing

Because this is traumatic He took you to brunch Yes We were going to different spots So we were drinking I didn't I obviously drink enough water So I was dehydrated

We were up I was up about to dance with him. And he said that I remember just kind of... Hold on. Hold on. You were about to dance? Well, he was off. But we were already...

Yo. What if Luggett came on? What's that shit? They were all. I'm shaking, too. Take this money. I hate you. But we were already up.

And it wasn't like... Oh. You, y'all be recording the wrong shit out there, man. Why did not see this? What happened? This ain't funny. We were, I was giving him. You know what a wally is?

A wally? Like when a guy just stands on the wall and the girl's dancing on it. A wally. I've never heard of that in my life. So he's on the walled? You never heard of that? We call it wall dancing. I don't know he said wally.

Give me a wally. It's a whole dance. All right. I mean, that whole song, I bet. So I wasn't really twerking, twerking on him because I had a dress on. But I was up on him and then I started

phasing out and he said that I had a seat like I kind of like You know, I mean, I don't know, I've never known you to have a history of seizures. I don't. That's the first time you've had a seizure? He said that I did. He said I was like shaking and then I passed out. You didn't go to the hospital?

So the ambulance came. I didn't want to go to the hospital because as soon as I woke up, there's all these people in my face and it's feeding me water. Once I got water, I was like, I'm fine. Nah, you got to go to the hospital. You got to see what the cause of that is.

I mean, they checked me. I was fine. Who checked? Aren't these neurological? The people from the ambulance. Aren't they neurological? Yeah, it has to be. Yeah, you got to get your brain check.

Make sure it's no short circuits. Really? That's what I mean? Yeah. I mean, yeah. He said I was only out for a few minutes. He what? He said I was only out for a few minutes.

What song was on? Seriously, I'm not joking. Do you remember what this? It was a Spanish song. What? I'm sick. It was a Spanish song. Which one?

Which one? Which one? I don't know. I don't know the song. I'm sorry to happen to you, too. Yeah. And how long did, when you passed out, like, what, yeah, what was his next move? He was very catering to, like. Oh, he, like, tried to detection.

He didn't think that you were, like, dropping it low or nothing like that. Well, he said he was talking to me. He said I wasn't responding. And then he, like, looked me in my eyes are like. You should go to the doctor, though. Yeah. You should go tell them like you had a seizure Like that's something you should

I feel like it was because I was drinking though No I've never had a seizure in my life Thank God And yes And we all drink in this room That's something else Like it's something going on

That you probably need to get checked out Yeah Nobody knew Nobody put a wallet in your mouth or nothing To make sure you don't bite your tongue or anything Not that I know You sure you had a seizure yo But he that's what he could

Again I don't know I thought I just kind of passed out I didn't know I was shaking or something So he says D You pass off? You do pass up. Damn. I will say I'm 100% positive now

that these, I'm a 100% positive that I only laugh at comedians' traumatic stories. Okay, why, why, why? They're actually funny, but it's only because y'all are naturally funny. So y'all are always in funny mode. You know what I mean?

Even when we're talking about like something incredibly traumatic. Yes, Taylor has taken me through a range of emotions in five minutes. And I don't want to feel. any of these emotions that she's taking me through. Like none of them. That was crazy that you did that little flip-flop on that one. Yeah, that's wild.

I didn't, do you really think I need to go to say doctors? Yes, you need to go see a doctor. Absolutely. Anytime you shake for no reason, you should see the doctor. Word is born. And you just, your body shuts off. Anytime your brain just shuts off. I was drinking, though.

No, drinking. I mean, I don't know. I'm not no doctor. And I had an edible and, like, smoke, so, no. So, you do that all the time? It's not like. And you never had a sleep the night before? I mean, I was exhausted, so I think it's like a...

Could be a combination. Could be exhaustion. I passed out because of exhaustion. It wasn't a seizure, though. I passed out when early stages of the breakfast club, when we used to go out all the time and be out every night, drinking, fucking smoking, not getting no sleep. I passed out, but I was dehydrated.

I literally passed out in the studio. I had to go to the emergency room. Really? Yeah. No way. Yeah. During the recording, is there a video of that? I don't know.

it might be. I don't know if it was after the show or not. Yeah, we used to do video. We did video just the beginning. But that wasn't an interview. So I don't know. I passed out. And guess what Envi and Angela did?

What? they'll tell that story right now and laugh to this day by how I had to get rushed to the fucking emergency room because I was dehydrated. And that's when my wife was living in South Carolina. What do you think about Can we pay some bills? Taylor them bought the mood all of this fucking down. I mean, God damn. I can bring the mood up.

You sure. Yeah, 100%. You're positive. Okay. Tell me something dramatic. What do you think about naming your baby after your side check? Depends on what the name is. Go.

If the name's fire. See? You know what I'm saying? Like if the name is actually fire. Yeah. Why not? You don't think that it might like cause a riff with your wife or nothing? Depends if the wife finds out.

You're not giving me. the whole details of the story. But having that little secret with the side chick and also like naming your son after a girl who's back used to destroy. That's what makes it okay. Wait, why? If you name your daughter that, that's fucked up. You name your son after your side chick.

It's like, hmm. And it's a fly name. Some is a fly name, bro. Someone with an end, bro. I don't ever want some of the end. What? That's what you put, that's what that means. you put the end in the middle, bro.

What you mean? What do you mean, what do you mean? What do you think? I think he's a fucking idiot for having that shit. In the DMs. Yes. Adam Levine, who's the Maroon 5 leading singer.

Apparently had a little trist with this OnlyFans thought. He didn't sleep with it, though. According to him, he said it was just inappropriate messages through the DM. No, no, no, no, no, no. She was definitely a crash test dummy. Oh, he hit? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, okay.

I thought he said he wasn't, it was just allegedly, we don't know that. Well, we got on good authority. Who's the authority? All right. You know, her roommate? Oh, you know the roommate? I don't know. But word got around.

Okay. Yeah, you man. No, I'll joke decide he's wilder. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. You can't name your child after the side. Yo. You know what I mean?

Like, and some there's a cool name, but it ain't worth that. Like, I don't have to name my child that, you know what I mean? That's a weird, weird tribute. Let me see, damn, laughing my ass off. I must be doing something right. Absolutely got me funny. I'm so weird too and only listen to metal, L.O.L. Said no hot chicks ever other than you.

Okay. Like metal music. I just can't believe this guy, man. All jokes aside, I don't know why any married man would cheat in 2022. Like, either tell your wife the truth and tell him. We don't know that he doesn't have an agreement with his wife. That was my issue with it initially. It's like he could have an agreement with his wife that he's allowed to get some strange.

But I thought he apologized. He apologized for embarrassing her. Nobody ever comes out and says, yeah, my wife lets me. fuck whoever. Yeah. You basically do it on the low. Go back to that, Taylor. Because there's a line that I read.

I did read this line earlier that I didn't like. More women have come forward accusing Maroon 5 from an adlery of sending flirty messages, including screenshots they claim proved the singer was behind the conversations. Thirsty ass. Like, come on. Clout chasing ass. And I don't like how they worded. Like they make it sound like some me too shit.

Like more women came for. God forbid, the lead singer of a major band sent something cute to you in a DM. Yeah, and the crazy part is I don't even know what flirting is in 2022. I think if you're a married man, you probably shouldn't send any DM. He was wild. He was wild. There's no question. But I don't know that he's not allowed to do whatever he wants with his wife.

That's true. So if he's like, I didn't have an affair, it's like, well, yeah, an affair is something behind your wife's back. If she's cool with it. That's true. It is what it is. That's true. Where he violated his potentially name in the newborn after shorty. That's crazy.

That's wild. I don't know one dude. It's not like, God, damn, that's why. I'm bullshit, I'm fucking around, but that's, no, that's wild. That's crazy. That's nuts. Like, that's doing way too much. Like, it's like you're trying to get caught.

Because, man, imagine if that name would have stuck. And then five, six years from now, she finds out that you used to be fucking around or flirting with some chick named Sumner. That's the reason. That's why I don't think he was sleeping with her. That was my initial thing. Yeah, I don't think he was sleeping with her, bro. You're not going to take that name and name your child that if he was actually having sex with him. What if we have on decent authority that it was going down?

Did she say it was going down? Didn't she? Let me hear what she said, Taylor. She didn't want to say it. You know, let me ask you this. Why is there no consequences for women to go after married men or that have sex with married men? It's like, do you want to tell us that over here? Nah, the dudes get shamed.

The dudes get fucked as they should. They fucked up. Yeah. But there's nothing for women who do it. And it is a foul thing for women to engage. And like, two got to play this game. But you know why, though. Why?

Because it's a double standard and it's the power dynamic. And the power dynamic will always be man is the power. The woman is not. And so whatever the woman did is because the man forced, not forced her to, but engaged in it and pushed up on her. So here's my thing, which, what I don't like, in sex, in sex women have the power. Like, we can't have sex with them without them allowing us, right? We literally cannot. So there is one person who has a.

all the power here, which is the woman. So if the person with all the power chooses to engage in a sexual relationship with somebody, she's the one that's making the final choice. Yeah. And that's what it is. It's really the power of choice. Like, slew to my home girl, Ashley, AJ, AJ Holiday from the We Talk Back podcast,

she always says, I beat side chicks up. Because if the side chicks wouldn't make the choice to cheat, then it wouldn't go down. She was like, you know, I'm probably paraphrasing here and she can word it better to me but she says that as women they should stick together

and soon as a man says I'm married you should know that guy is off limit but women don't like to women don't like to hang out together like I mean that for real I don't think I think when women come together it's like if you see a big group of women together

it's either a tragedy or if I see like more than six or seven so much responsibility bro not but I mean it's sincerely like you're looking at these group of women Like, who gonna have a seizure tonight? It's like, I'm like, I don't know who knows CPR? You know what I mean?

It's too much to fucking think about. No, for me. Think about it. In any successful show where it's like a group of women, they're just fighting each other. Yeah. It's just how you guys hang out. You don't want to be with one enough.

You want to be with a man or you want to be by yourself, but you don't want to be around. Like, guys, we love hanging out with each other. Six dudes will go hang out for no reason. Six women will never hang out for no reason. No, y'all got to have a plan. Name a time where a time. Six women just go hang out.

You and six of your friends hung out for no reason. And it's always one woman in that crowd judging everybody. Erica Banks told us that. Erica Banks, like, I don't want none of you bummed ass broads around me. If y'all ain't thick enough, okay? If y'all ain't got the right attire on, out of six of those women is absolutely one woman

judging every other woman in the crew telling her closest girl in that crew, why is she here. Exactly. I guarantee it. She's using her friends for the club. That's not real friends. I'm saying, like, men, we like to be. being made. Points made.

Points made. I was talking to... I was talking to somebody, right? You know how they have the Ocean's 11 movie, right? Yep. They only made Ocean's 12 because all the dudes on oceans were like, the director was like, yo, y'all want to just live in Europe for a few months and then we could film this movie. And they were like, all right, fine, fuck it.

I'd love to just be with my boys and live, because they're all friends. A lot of the guys who do the movies. They tried to make Oceans 8. These chicks hated each other, bro. everybody with an ego, I'm not leaving my trailer until they leave their trailer. There was no chemistry, no camaraderie, nothing. And it's just, I don't think it's how women engage, bro. Every real housewives show is just like, what happens when you get more than five women together?

Fist fight. Now, now, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you. Name it when it doesn't happen. I'm going to NBA. Only in the WMBA. That's right. They fight each other on time. Only in the WMBA.

WMBA is where a large group of women can come together for one goal, one common cause, go out there, play. they genuinely like they love each other. Like look at the Las Vegas Aces when they won the championship this week. They look like they absolutely enjoy each other. Yeah, but they're playing a sport. It's not hanging out. And I think furthermore that they also enjoy the company of women from other reasons. Like, where it's like...

So are you saying that you have to be friends with somebody you play with on a team, Alex? Kobe Bryant, God bless the dead, would disagree with you. Michael Jordan would disagree with you. No, I'm saying that they have the game of basketball to distract them from the fighting that would have. if they were hanging out together. Oh, that was a bar. That was fire. That was fire.

You gotta give them something to do. You're right. You got to keep him busy, bro. Drinks will be thrown. It's facts, bro. It's facts. I don't think it's in their nature. I don't.

I don't think it's in your nature. I'm sorry. I think, you know, I'm gonna tell you what I think Shultz is saying, I think women are a lot more tribal than men. I think men don't necessarily have to be tribal. We just need a couple of things that connect us. You know what I mean? And we can, I can be on a plane with somebody and have a whole, I'm, I can have a conversation with anybody, but I can really connect me and another dude just sitting there talking for like an hour and some change.

Especially if we just get, get on some man shit. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? No, we can connect and we can blow for an hour. That's right. Hey, yo. It could be about sports. Whoa.

Hey, yo. God damn. You know what I mean? Just came back from Atlanta to. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that.

You made it progressive. You know what I did? I do, baby. It was getting real cavemanish. You know what I mean? And you just. But I just. I don't think it's a bad thing.

I just think it's like, because I think if like, for example, I think like I can hang out my wife for, for weeks. It's the best, it's the best. Literally.

My best friend. I can hang out. We can do it. It's easy. And we can have fun. It's fucking great. There's no question. And she can do that.

Could she hang out with her friends for as long as I is, could she hang out with her friends for as long as she can hang out with me? No way in hell. Could I hang out with my boys for weeks? Yes, I could. I think, See, I think that's the difference, right? I think that when a woman has a real friend group,

she can be with her friend group the way that we are with our boys. I think that we can connect with random people. I bet you saw so many dudes in Magic City last night? No, I was four of us. Oh, really? Yeah, we were there early. No, no random people came through? No, it was early.

So it was you, Clay Duvall. Me, Clay Duvall, and there was two other guys, maybe. But you never met them before? No. But y'all was kicking it. Yeah. Y'all had a great time. Yeah.

Easy. you're saying can't happen with women and random women. Yeah, I don't think. Go on the microphone. The real housewives show are all random women. They put these cast together and they can't work. Exactly. Why are you comparing a TV show like in real life?

I think the difference is he's saying you can kick it with random guys can kick it with random guys and have more shared experiences than be around each other longer than he's saying random. You watch the view? You watch the view? I've seen the view for the top. or whatever the fuck? Yeah. Okay.

Have you watched Inside the NBA? No. No. Well, it doesn't matter. The people at home know. Who's having more fun? No, you're right.

Who's having more fun? No, you're right. You're right. These girls are just talking about shit. They don't even care about. Yeah, it's based on conflict. These dudes just teasing each other, making fun. They're sitting down, though.

Like, what is talking? They're sitting down having conversation. If you're in a party scene lately, the parties I haven't gone to, girls twirking, like, eh, we hype each other up. Be friends. Until she started walking. walling your man. Taylor, you just,

you just kind of like shitting on your own point. Yeah. How? Because what Alex was saying about you give them something to do, to distract them.

So when y'all in a party, dancing and this shit, y'all distracted. But if you had to sit down, if you got to get women an activity. Man, we don't need an activity. No,

no, not too long ago again. Yeah. My friend Brittany, you know how me and her met? I was like looking, I was at a last lap. And I was looking down

over the balcony. and she just came up to me. And she says like something funny of a meme. And me and her became real good friends. She said, oh, you're telling you? No, she didn't. That's what she said? But, and then I'm friends with her friend.

Like, it's no big, no problem. And we didn't have to be dancing or smoking or anything like that. Like, good have conversations. That's a friend. Yeah, but it's not, it's not, no. I'm just telling you. And you gave a number. You said a group activity.

I'm talking, I'm not talking about one-on-one. Like, I've met her friend. Like all of us hung out. It was fine. It was like five of us. Huh? Never mind. You thought I was feeling you?

Yeah. You thought I was feeling you? You were a munch. Okay? How that song goes? You thought I'm feeling you? I can't even say it. Yo, if that song shaming people who eat vaginas?

Yes, bro. That's why that's another thing. Women, you don't know what you want. So, okay, so Taylor just said that that song is just saying, you just let a dude eat you out. Right? But a guy who does that, you have a derogatory term for it? That's fucked up.

You a munch? Why, I got to be a munch? I'm munching. Why am I the munch? Why can't you just be Charlemagne? Why can you be a l'nard? Why am I the munch? Why you reduce me to an action that you claim to enjoy?

He's an eater. That's like suck my dick. You call me a dick sucker. Real talk. You are. That's the female equivalent of calling somebody a dick sucker. Yeah, that's facts. Munch.

Dick sucker. Yeah. Don't call me a munch. God damn. No, no. Why? Why? I think we need a boycott munching, bro.

I really think we need a boycott muncher. If it's not being appreciated. Clearly it's not. No, it's not. That song is. That song is not. You make this silly that song. That's right.

That song does not sound like she appreciates the munch. Oh, you thought I was feeling you? You're just a munch. I don't like you. You're just here to eat my pussy. That's crazy, though. That's fucking crazy, yo. Where's the respect?

No. And then you wonder why we name our kids after our side chick. Word up. Because the treatment that we get. Word up. Word up. Thank you. You want to objectify me like that and then wonder. Why? Oh, you thought I'm feeling you?

That chick is a throat. Word up. God damn, yo. I don't even feel right saying that. I didn't even feel right saying that. Wow. Wow. We might have to think about editing.

That was so offensive. That was so offensive. We might have to think about editing that, yo. Bro. The reducer. girl to a throat? No, that's crazy. Wow.

Wow. You thought I was feeling you? You're just a jaw. That bitch is a jaw. You're whoa, bro. God damn, yo. Damn, yo. You thought I was feeling you.

You just the tongue. Yo, in that crazy? Okay? No, that's crazy. That's wild, bro. What about mouth? Yo, you thought I was feeling you? That chick is a mouth.

Your chick is a mouth. Yo, that chick is a mouth. You thought I was feeling you? You just decide. That chick is a throat. Yo, that's crazy, bro. Yo, that's crazy even say that. I was saying, whenever you switch rolls, you can see how fucked up shit is.

You thought I was feeling you. You just a throat. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Y'all are crazy.

Whoa. Y'all are. By the way, imagine, imagine. What? Come on, bro. You know, the gay version? The guys will be violent. Oh, you thought I was feeling you?

You're just a butt. Yo. You thought I was feeling you? That dude is an anus. You just a baby. You thought I was... Yo, come on, dude. You thought I was feeling you?

I just gave you monkey pox. You got to pay some pills, man. You thought I was feeling you? You're just a monkey. Yo, goddamn, bro. What? Nobody wants to talk about it. that.

Yo, no, we want to have that conversation, bro. This dude hit me to DMs. He hit me to DMs about

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Tarzan. Oh, yeah. It took me 30 seconds to hear what you said. Why would somebody be damning you

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Comedy Central. Thank you to everybody that's been watching, DVR and screaming on Paramount Plus. Make sure to scream all the episodes on Paramount Plus and watch us live on Thursday nights at 11.30 p.m. Last week, we had a great episode. Angela Rye, my good sister, Angela Rye, was on the panel with Malcolm Gladwell and Roy Woods Jr.

And Fat Joe was, you know, one-on-one. And, you know, a lot of different things from that episode, you know, went viral. I can't believe that Malcolm Gladwell was riding for the queen so much. If you want me to diss the queen, you've come to the wrong place. I'm a Commonwealth. I'm born and bred in the common. My mom, my 91-year-old, my 19-year-old, Jamaican mom was very, very sad when the queen died. Queen represented something to us.

You know, she was a woman of extraordinary grace and dignity in a world that needs a lot of lot more role models of grace and dignity. And, you know, there's, there are some things that a country did that are unspeakable, but that doesn't set England aside from different from any other country in the world. I think it was more so I'm not, I'm not going to disrespect somebody I know my mom loves. Like I know it's somebody that your mom probably loves and you know, know how much your mom loves her. So you might not fuck with that.

Yeah, I hear you. You know what I mean? That's what I think it was. He's such, yeah, he's such like a nuanced, interesting dude. And like, his take was trash. Like, usually he is great takes. Like, he's, like, really thoughtful. And his take was like, oh, she's dignified.

No, his take was, if you want, if you think I'm going to diss the queen, I'm not dissing the queen. My mother was very distraught about the queen's death. That's how it started. Everything else was after that. You know what I mean? And, you know, it was funny because I told Malcolm, I'm like, yo, you said you wasn't going to diss the queen, but you just reduced her to a mascot. Like, she was like she's just a ribbon cutter, a glorified ribbon cutter with no power.

You know what I mean? Max, though. That's true. You know, but Malcolm, man, Malcolm, I mean, I love reading a lot of Malcolm's books, but he said something on the panel that made a lot of sense to me because we tend to do that because all we know in our lifetime is what we know. Everything else is history that we've read. But the things that we experience, we think what we experience is the greatest. And we think what some of the bad things we experience are the worst. Like to some people, COVID is the worst thing that ever happened in the history of life.

So when I ask a question like, is the upcoming midterms, you know, the most important election in American history? And Malcolm's like, no. It's like I can name like 10 others. And when he names him. He's absolutely right. You know what I mean? Does he have kids? I don't know.

I don't think so. I don't think so. But that right there helps you put things in perspective like, oh shit. Not only have there been times in our society where there was more, there was bigger things at stake. Yeah. We also got through those things. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So we'll get through this. Everything's going to be fine. Nothing changes. I don't know about that. You know why you care because you have kids. I'm trying to find the difference why I don't care and you do care. And it's not just a white thing.

Okay, that's what I was going. Well, I, it is one part of white privilege is you, you kind of have the ability to, like, remove yourself from politics. But like, then again, like there's a bunch of white people that are really furious with the way that politics are going. So blah, blah, that's true. But I mean, both sides are saying democracy is about to die. Exactly. They're all fucking crying. Yeah.

And then, but what I will, what I did notice about getting money is once you get money, I don't trust anybody who has money and no kids and pretends to care about politics. I don't trust it. Because once you get money, you have the ability to kind of like remove yourself from everything. Like I could give a flying fuck right now. If you don't have anything,

if you don't have any other issues to deal with that aren't related to money. Like, for example, I've got to say a race thing. If you're a white male, your privilege is different. If you're a black male with money or a Spanish male with money, you could still get profiled. You know what I mean?

Chris Rock used to leave Alpine, New Jersey and post online how he was getting pulled over all the goddamn time. That's Chris Rock. You know what I'm saying? 100%. So I don't think, I think, I think, 100%.

I think it's still a cap. Race absolutely plays a part in every, I was having a conversation with this dude, about this. Race absolutely plays a part in every single conversation that we have. And gender. And gender, 100%.

And the more wealthy you get, the less it plays a part. So there's a level of wealth where race isn't affecting your day to day as much as it's affecting the poor black person. Yeah, I agree with that, but it can still affect you, though. I agree with that.

Of course they do. Again, it plays a part in every single decision. I'm not trying to say it's not there. But the things that this poor black dude has got to go through every single day. I agree with a fucking horrible neighborhood. No access to, like, good food. access to like good facilities, you know, education, all these types of things.

Those are way more difficult and are going to impact their life way more than the super rich black person that's living in Bel Air, California. And that everybody knows and is part of the neighborhood. Yeah. And he probably created a bubble for himself. Yeah. So I guess what I'm trying to say is like once you have children and I imagine, I don't have kids yet, you know, God bless.

Hopefully I will be able to. Keep shooting, baby. No, you know. But what I'm actually. imagine is all these issues are very important because you're like, oh, wow, these are all directly going to affect my kid, how my kid is learning, how my kid is treated, how the world sees my kid, and all of a sudden you're locked back in again. I'm in this weird stage where I got some money and I don't have kids and I have a wife and it's just like,

none of these issues really affect us that much. Yeah, and it was so interesting about what you're saying, it's like when you're black, right, like when you have conversations with, when I have conversations with rich white people and they'd be like, like, oh, America's so fucked up. And you're like, yeah, man, tell me more, man. Why is it so fucked up? It's all economy based. It's all economy based.

They're not thinking about shit like voting rights. Yeah. They're not thinking about shit like police reform. You know what I mean? Like none of that shit is on their radar whatsoever. They're not thinking about, you know, equity. Why would they be thinking about equity? You know what I mean?

Like, they're not thinking about stuff like that. Those are issues that are like significant to a group of people. You know what I mean? And most of it is race-based. So I was with Duval, we're in Atlanta. And he didn't want to eat at this restaurant because he was worried about getting shot. He didn't want to go or robbed. He didn't want to eat too close to where he lived because he didn't want to know, want

people to know that he lived there. And like, or the people that do know that he lives in the area, maybe they'll go rob the place because they know he's out to eat type of that. Like, he's constantly being concerned about being robbed or whatever. And I'm like, oh, I get why you go to the Bahamas. I call it, I call that, and I wrote about that in my book, Shook one. I call it being black in America, black paranoia. It's a different set of paranoia.

It's a different set of paranoid and, you know, the average person deals with. And then think about it, y'all went to Magic City. He walks in with you. He can say you a cop. He can say you a lawyer. Yeah. And people will believe him. 100%.

And like, let me stay. Like, do you're all in here with them boys tonight, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't touch him. It's just, that's the game. Why it's like that? I don't know. I do understand why he loves going to the Bahamas

because he actually gets to check out and not have to worry and look behind his back constantly. And he actually, it's probably why you love Anguilla. It's like you get to release instead of you're going to the grocery store and you're like, is this going to be the guy that sees me? That's right. Or is someone at the grocery store going to call their friend and say,

yo, Charlemagne's here. If you want to hit him up on the way when he leaves, like it's this constant fear, man. That's right. That's right. I mean, yeah, everything you're saying is 100% correct.

You got to find ways to check out. Yeah. Like where are the places that you just get to go? I can breathe easy here. Everything's fine. I'm going to be okay.

Man, it's crazy. But for me, you got to put the anxiety on top of it because I can be home and start thinking the dumb shit. Like,

who's going to call a SWAT team on me? You know, they'd be doing them stupid SWAT shit. Like, I'd be thinking stupid shit like that because I'm literally the

person that can go online or watch TV, see some shit, and think this is about to happen. You know what I mean? So it's just like, I really don't know. Like for me, checking out is as crazy as it sounds, I like when I'm doing the podcast. You know what I mean? Because you're locked in. That's right. Yeah, yeah.

You don't have time to think about all those other fuck shit. Until it's recorded. And I'm like, oh, shit, you got to release this to the fucking world. You know what I mean? I'm tired. Do you know how we're getting, you know why we getting so much trouble? Why? Having conversations with friends.

in front of strangers. Yeah. That's all this shit is. It's conversations with friends and then we let strangers in on the conversation. So when people get upset because I'm not taking Joe Coy serious, it's like that.

That's because I'm having a conversation with a friend and you strangers are eavesdropping. Y'all don't know how we get down. Yeah. You know what I mean? Sometimes I don't know how me and my friends get down. Yeah. I think Donnell's a friend.

Until I don't. Because I'm realizing He's really upset. Is he still upset? He's always upset. Now that was like fucking the incredible Hulk. He's always fucking angry. That's what gives him his goddamn powers.

You know what I mean? Love you, Donnell. No, I don't. I do still. I still love you. Also make sure, I do love Donna. Also make sure to check out some of 85, Chris Moro is in here right now. That's his audible original.

Yeah. That's out through SBH productions, man. It tells the story of the bombing of the Move movement in Philadelphia. in the summer of 85 and the correlation it has with the live aid contract. I want to talk to you about something too, Chris, off air because I have another idea because I love the juxtaposition that you did with that. And I have another theory that I can't prove. And I have nothing to prove it.

But there is a correlation that I think people aren't seeing, and I would love to bring that to the masses. Did you see Woman King? Of course. really the funniest person in America, bro. For no fucking reason. I saw it. I don't believe you.

I did see it. Did they have fucked up. You see what I mean? I don't believe him. I saw it. That's just like when they're telling me about some bad shit that happened to them. I don't believe that he. You saw the Woman King.

Daniel Colila or whatever is David. He was nowhere day that movie. He was nowhere near the Woman King. He produced that movie, bro. He produced it. He produced it. He produced it. here the woman king.

Daniel Kalala produced that movie. No, man. It's John Boyega. Whatever his name is. Yeah. John Boyega. The guy from Star Trek. There you go.

Star Wars. Yeah, yeah. He was in it. He's in it. I love his role in the movie. I don't want to give too much away, but that's the only thing I didn't like. If I had the nitpick at it,

because by the way, there is absolutely nothing to dislike about the woman king. All right, bro. It was, shut up. It's true. Why can't I just enjoy a movie, man? Man.

Me and the boys went to go see it. My man. Brother Willie Muhammad said to realishap, salute to Brother Willie Muhammad. Oh, I love Brother Willie, man. Brother Willie Muhammad said, yeah, yeah. Y'all mad about a movie

that has an African tribe that realizes they should not be trading their own people and other Africans in a slave trade. Yep. Then decide to stop doing so, burn down the slave port. free other Africans, kills slave traders, shows women supporting the black man,

and then he put the shrug emoji. Like, I, listen. That's how I felt. I enjoyed it a lot. Neat. Yeah, man. And I, you know, I see people saying that it's not historically accurate.

Wait, why is it not historically accurate? Because it's a movie. But that didn't happen? I mean, yes, it's certain parts of it did happen. Certain parts were sensationalized. Certain parts were fictionalized. But what movie isn't? What?

What movie is it? Well, I mean, Black Panther is real. Shut up. Well, Black Panther is based off, the Dora Melagia and Black Panther is based off the Dahomey Amazon's from the Woman King. Yeah, I know. Like, Chris, come here, Chris can speak to this.

Like stuff like, because people like to use these examples, like Schindler's List. What? Right. Those movies weren't historically accurate. At least they were pretty historic. No, they looked it up. No, they weren't. There was a real Oscar.

been learned. Yes. But a lot of the things, first of all, they would have to be fictionalized because we weren't there every moment of these people's lives that know what was going on. But what was the movie where Hitler got shot in the movie theater? That assassinated in the movie theater. Inglorious bastards? And glorious bastards. That didn't happen. What? You didn't get assassinated in the movie theater. Just let the mask go, Chris. I swear to God. I'm doing it for your sake. I'm coughing today. Oh, are you really? You think you got some shit? There's a cold going on. Yo, Joe Biden said it's over, bro. Yeah, yeah. Joe Biden said it's over, bro.

100%. No, but can we go back to the Dory Milage or whatever? The, uh, the... Dora Melagia. Yeah. The Woman King was phenomenal.

What? Assassin's Creed. Yep. Assassin's Creed. That's the movie, right? Video game. I thought it was a movie. Well, they turned it into a movie as well.

Okay. So you think a lot of these movies are historically accurate? Chris? I mean, for the Women's King, I mean, I would, if people are questioned, and what's historically accurate with it. There's a article that came out in the New Yorker magazine like two months ago from a descendant of one of the kings of,

how do I say, Domini, which is present-day Benin, essentially. And he talks about realizing that his family played a very direct role in the slave trade, and the way it was portrayed in that article was that they really did use these female warriors, shock troops, essentially. Like they were going to villages, immediately slaughter women, children, try to set an example, scare the shit out of the village, and then convince the rest of the village to go back to the slave trading court, you know, without putting up a fight. So that's how historically it seems like these women were used. And he actually in the article, and they was

killing people. They was like, oh, they was killing. They was killing. So he said to his grandfather who was actually, because the kingdom like kind of fell apart in like the 1870s. So like the grandfather that was still kind of like benefiting off the wealth. And he said, well, you know, like, how do you feel knowing about the fact that, like, you sent other Africans into slavery to America? And the guy just looked them and said, all the fingers on the hand ain't the same length. The fuck is that. I don't know.

But, like, that was his response. Like, I think it means just like everybody doesn't get the same deal. Like, that's what the movie shows. Okay, I didn't see the movie. Yeah, the movie shows the complexities of the slave trade and really how it was all just rooted in capitalism. And they even have this one scene where the king is having a conversation. And, you know, his conscience is like, man, I don't know if I want to keep doing this. And so the person he was talking to was like, what are you going to be without the money, basically?

You know what I mean? Like, you can be a king. But the reason this kingdom is the shit, basically, is because of the money that it's making, you know, because of the slave trade. So they show those complexities throughout the movie. He committed suicide. They think he did. Oh. In the bunker with his mistress, Eva Braun.

So that's my point. He didn't get killed in a movie theater? I mean, I didn't see that. Isn't that a Terence Quarantino movie? Yeah, it's a Tarantino. Listen, I think what's interesting about this movie is that it touches on something that you don't really hear about a lot in the history books. Yeah. And that is the African role in the slave trade.

Right. Yes. And I'm surprised that it's not getting more criticism for, that. Oh, it is. Oh, that is. Oh, yeah. But I've always thought this as a, as a, uh, just a white dude, which is like, I don't see it as realistic that these white people just went to the shores and then just started rounding up black people and put them in. There had to be some coordination for the people who lived there. Yeah, it was both. It was both. It was both. Because I think some of the first slaves that came into Virginia, Chris, you correct me if I'm wrong, some of the first slaves that

came into Virginia came into Virginia because they were captured because of a war between the Portuguese, and I forgot what tribe. But during that war, they captured some of the slaves and bought them back to Virginia. I could totally see that. I'm just saying like... So it's a combination of both.

Some were sold. But these people are completely cut out of the history book. Like when I learned about the transatlantic slave trade, like I, in no way did I hear about any of the kingdoms in Africa that were profiting from it at all.

And I'm just curious about like... That's the white man's fault for taking all the credit. Well, it's, It's actually kind of interesting. It's like you talk about like the whitewashing of history. I would argue that this is like a very, um,

kind retelling of history to the people that are there now. This shit ain't kind though. Y'all gotta go see it. No, no, not the movie. What I'm saying is the fact that they're even acknowledging. Did you see that? I think it's difficult for people, right? Like, you don't want to admit that.

I mean, that's why I would say like, honestly, if that's something people want to check out, the author, I wrote it down. David Wright-Falladay is the author. I need to see that. Did you see the English? Did you see the English? woman talking to Don Lemon. Do you see that? Oh, I did saw that. That was ridiculous. That shit was

crazy. But it's not. It was kind of ridiculous because what Don should have explained to her was every single person was not, every single slave that came from Africa wasn't sold. Like, that's what she made it seem like. She made it seem like they were just selling slaves. It was like, it was a combination. There was some that was sold. It was some that was captured during war. It was some that was taken. Like, like, all of them were captured during war. It's whether they were captured by other black people or white people or Arabs, which really doesn't get talked about at all. 100%.

The role that the Arabs played. But I think, I think, so here's the conversation. What a fucking my trend? A living crisis. A austerity budget cuts and so on. And then you have those who are asking for reparations for colonialism and they're wondering, you know, $100 billion, $24 billion here and there, $500 million there. Some people want to be paid back and members of the public are wondering, why are we

suffering when you are, you know, you have all of this vast wealth. The conversation is the crown is passing like a billion dollars worth of wealth from the queen to the new king. And there are countries that were colonized by the English Empire that are like, yeah, we want our reparations. Like you took so much wealth from us. And so he's posing this question of her, do you think that the English royal family should pay reparations to these places? And this is what she says. You have all of this vast wealth. Those are legitimate concerns. Well, I think you're, you're right about reparations in terms of if people wanted though, what they need to do is you always need to go back to the beginning of a supply chain. Where was the beginning of the supply

chain? That was in Africa and when that crossed the entire world when the slavery was taking place, which was the first nation in the world that abolished slavery? The first nation in the world to abolish it. It was started by William Wilberforce was the British. In Great Britain, they abolished slavery. Two thousand naval men died on the high seas trying to stop slavery. Why? Because the African kings were rounding up their own people. They had them on cages waiting in the beaches. No one was running into Africa to get them. And I think you're totally right. If reparations need to be paid, we need to go right back to the beginning of that supply chain and say, who was rounding up their own people and having them handcuffing pages? Absolutely.

That's where they should start. And maybe, I don't know, the descendants of those families where they died in the high seas trying to stop the slavery, that those families should receive something too, I think at the same time. Yeah, but what's crazy about that? What did he respond? What did he say? Nothing. I don't know if he was out of time, but he just, yeah, he folded.

But what's interesting is that this is fucking, I've never heard this take. I've heard the, we're not paying reparations. Right. Okay. This is the first time I've ever heard a African people should pay reparations. And two white people. Did you see what she said to him? She was African, the African king should pay reparations to the families.

of the white naval soldiers that went there to stop the slave trade. Yeah, but that is a hot take. Yeah, but it's crazy, though, because every African nation she's talking about was colonized by Europe. And the slave trade is one thing, but what about the removal of the wealth from those African countries' bottom of European? 100%. There needs to be atonement for that.

So it doesn't even make no sense what she's saying. I just think it's crazy. We don't even know the name of one kingdom in Africa that was involved in the slave trade. It's not common knowledge. none of us could say, right? We know every white country that was involved.

We don't know the, we can't name one that was rounding up their own people and selling them. Because all the Europeans took credit. When you look at the Portuguese, were the first people to start feasting off. Oh, that was there. I'm telling you. You think it was Arab before?

Because they were already there. I did a deep dive into slavery the other day because of us are. Wow. That sounds wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. This is, I don't want to give away a great movie idea, but like the biggest slave, slave rebellion of all time, including African slaves, took place in Iraq in the 15th century.

Really? Which I had no idea. Come on, Chris, break it down now? Ottoman Empire? Come on. It's why it's the ruined idiots. No, it was. So if, uh, southern Iraq, Basara, I think is the name of the city.

And it's all kind of reed and marshy areas. And they were cultivating those areas to try to grow some sort of crop. I don't remember which one. And they brought in hundreds of thousands, ultimately of African slaves, but not for, from West Africa, which is the Portuguese and the British slave but from East Africa, Kenya, Somalia, Sudan, Sudan, areas like that. And these people lived in these, you know,

essentially plantations for generations until they kept building up and building up. And then, you know, they were second class citizens. They were treated horribly. They were killed, all sorts of crazy stuff. And then eventually somebody organized them. There was a massive war. I mean, much bigger than anything Nat Turner did.

I mean, we're talking the slaves had tens of thousands the soldiers on their side. They managed to take over a large part of Iraq. They eventually lost, and it, you know, the leader was killed and all that, but it was like one of the biggest uprisings I've ever read it.

But think about that. The point is, everybody colonized Africa. Everybody raped Africa. Or maybe it's, they suck the resources out of Africa. I know. You know, where there was another major slave trade around the 17th century? Crimea, right?

What is that it? Like, kind of like, in between Europe and Asia, like, kind of not too far from, you know, Russia took it all. Why they call them slaves? Slav. Slavic. They were going into Russia and present-day Ukraine, the Turks who controlled that area, bringing back tens of thousands of Russians and Ukrainians, present-day Ukrainian.

I never had read about this. I wonder if, I wonder if a more global- I just want to say one thing real quick to the idea, like, the idea that, like, the world is plundering Africa. Human history is humans plundering humans. Oh, colonization, but Africa got it the worst. I would think. I don't know.

Yeah, I've got it to work. Maybe. You think so? I mean, but that's what I'm going to respond to that woman. Listen, I don't know.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that like, it's not like they're, these people are conspiring going, all right, it's time to get Africa. It's who's ready to get got. So it's like. To a certain extent,

but Africa did have the most natural resources. There's, okay, there's no question that people want to take natural resources. I guess what I'm trying to say, like, people were not discriminating on colonizing motherfuckers.

white people are colonizing white people like right now Russia is invading Ukraine like they're not looking at them and going oh these guys look just like us they have the same language same culture everything they're like fuck them they got money that's mine by the way that is really colonization what Putin is trying to do

is colonization 100% textbook definition what we did in the Middle East right it's like what we've done to one another like what China wants to do to Taiwan literally what China wants to do to Taiwan it's like human beings are fucked up. And if you think that that wasn't happening

within Africa, Africa is the size of, I think, all the other continents put together, something like that. Like, Africa is massive. Massive. If you think that that wasn't happening internally in Africa? The Woman King shows you that. Exactly. Yeah, and Africa colonized parts of Europe.

I mean, they colonize Spain. Hannibal. Al-Andalus is the Moorish kingdom of Spain that reign for... Oh, yeah, the Andles, yeah. It goes both ways, but... I guess what I'm saying is, like, is a human thing. This is what humans do one another. And it doesn't make it right. It doesn't make it okay. But it is our history. And I think it'd be beneficial for us to study this and see what we are

capable of so that we cannot repeat it. Yes, but also the reason that they really, my personal take is the reason they don't want to study it is because they know it has to be atonement. And atonement would come through some type of finances. So it doesn't benefit this system that we're currently in to actually have to atone for the slave trade. You want to cover it up. You want to ignore it. Of course. Absolutely.

Of course. I think it's up to the people to not let that happen. I mean, look, Jews are still talking about being slaves in Egypt. As they show, white people love to hold on to our slavery. If white people were slaves for 36 hours, we are going to write a book out of that shit. I mean, Scottish people love to talk about. I've got beat up for five minutes. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you know, enslaved for generations. Would you give it up? So, I mean, number one, that is your history. So you should be able to tell you a story. But also, there's always atonement. There's always atonement. Let me ask you a question. Would you give reparations to Afghanistan?

Like, as an American, would you pay tax dollars to give them money for, like, what we put them through? I don't have nothing to do with it. We do. You've benefited from it. No, but you do. You've benefited from it directly. Just like you could say the white people have benefited directly from white supremacy,

even though that I haven't enslaved anybody personally. So what I'm saying is, your blood, your taxpaying dollars go to that military industrial complex that pays for that oppression of those brown people over there. So your blood is on that shit too. Are you willing to put your tax dollars up to pay them back? So we do that now. Our tax dollars go to stuff all the time

that we don't know what they're going to. And they're supposed to go to people that need it. Are you ready to go? You know, we fucked up in Afghanistan. We need to pay those people some money. I think the better question is... I ain't giving them shit. The better question is, would you as a white...

person be willing to give up some of your taxpaying dollars to atone for the original sin of America. If you know in the future, this is what's going to actually probably make America better. Well, those are two different questions. Would I pay money? If somebody was like, seriously, we can fix inequality and we can like make equity possible in this country. And all it's going to take is people who have a little bit more to pay back, I would do that shit in a fucking heartbeat. Word. 10 times out of 10. I think the reparations conversation,

as soon as people hear that word, they're like, in a heartbeat. What? No, no, no. I'm saying I would do it in a heartbeat. But that is somebody going 100% this is going to work.

I don't think that people have the confidence that whatever system they even have in place is can actually fix the inequality that exists in America. But if there was an actual fix, it's like, yo, Jeff Bezos,

stop making. a fucking spaceship and put the money right there. Like, that would be fire. If it was a dollar amount that could change it all, are you kidding? And billionaires here didn't do it? And the average wealthy person didn't chip in? But that's what's so loud about America, right?

Like, they should have corrected all of this way back. Well, that was 40 acres in the mill. Exactly. That was the, you know what I mean? Like the same atonement they offered the indigenous people is they should have offered the 40 acres in a me in a muse should have went to. It's funny that they were. not as even back then.

Right. Yes. Like something needs to be done. Yes. It's interesting. And those are the people that know history better than we do. Yeah. Like they know exactly what happened.

They even admit that like, yeah, we do got to give them something. Yeah. Like the same way they did Native Americans to a certain extent. Do you think back then the idea was we got to give them something because it makes it right? Or if we don't do it, there's going to be problems. And this is the way it is. I think a combination of both. I think that's why like in England paid for their slave owner.

Right. Like anybody who lost slaves when they made slavery illegal, they got a check from the bank. Americans did too. No, no. Yeah. Slave owners, after, uh, was it, the emancipation proclamation, slave owners got reparations.

Google it. Slave owners got reparations. Google it. Slave owners got reparations. I think I forgot how much it was, but slave owners got, slave owners that lost their slaves during, after the emancipation proclamation, they got reparations. Look it up, Chris.

Looking right now. Did slave owners get reparations in America? I thought about that, though. Like, how different would things be in America today if freed slaves got 40 acres in a meal? It would be a lot more black Wall Streets. Right. You know what I mean? It would be a lot more self-sufficient.

There would be less economic inequality. For sure. Yeah. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. The government paid owners an average of about $300 equivalent to $8,000 in 2000. Per slave. The American government paid that.

Yeah. To whom? To slave owners? No, but. It's the District of Columbia compensated emancipation act. But this is only a District of Columbia. Yeah, it's just. That's what, I mean, the majority was, that was like the southeast region.

No, District of Columbia is just Washington, D.C. Just D.C. I thought it was bigger than that. It might have been. What I do know is that England did it. Now, I don't think England had many slaves in England. I think that most of their slaves were in the Caribbean, right? So, but still, the fact that they gave the slave owners a payment for their slaves probably stopped a revolution from happening in England.

Right. Whereas your lights still on your phone. Whereas in America, I wonder if that would have happened, if that would have helped not have a revolution and then ease that economic insecurity. Give me your phone, Chris. I got it. Maybe I have it. That's what I'm still on. Give me your goddamn phone right now.

Jesus Christ, Chris. I mean, after 45, you got an exception on these things. Now, I think that's just the name of a bill, Chris. Okay, might be. Yeah, the District of Columbia compensated Emancipation Act. That's the name of the bill. The federal government compensated, the owners of enslaved people for their loss of property. The people who were freed were not compensated, nor give any assistance for the transition to this.

You're not doing this because it's the just thing to do. You're doing this to avoid war. Yeah. And sometimes you have to make incredibly difficult decisions to avoid loss of life. Yeah. Or if you really, and I don't know, if you believe in energy and you believe in karma,

you should want to atone for that. You know what I mean? If you think it was wrong and you can look back and say, man, you know, yeah, we treated people like property. was inhumane, especially, that's why it's so interesting to hear all of these Democrats talk about immigrants being treated inhumanely. I don't want to hear no white politician talking about people being used as capital, bro. Right.

Like, come on. And in a country that celebrates the founding fathers, like, knock it off. Right. So it's like if you can see that, atone for it. And let's see if we can, you know, make things right and have a better future. I'm willing to help out and I had nothing to do with it. Meaning, like, my family wasn't even here for it. And I get you?

So it's like, we came after that shit was over. Yeah. Now, that doesn't mean that black people weren't going through things, but the original sin of slavery had ended by the time my family came here. Well, to your point about benefiting, right? Without a doubt. You know what I mean? So it's like the same thing.

Who did you say? Afghanistan. Who did you say? Afghanistan. Yeah, so if we're benefiting off work that they did or whatever it was, it'd be the same logic. people came to America. But we were here when we invaded and we put politicians in place

that decided to invade and we didn't do anything to stop it. I guess what I'm saying is like there's probably somebody more responsible than me who's benefited more than me they're probably legacy families. Right, probably New Orleans who has But I think the legacy

like that's when I was doing my little research, that's one thing I noticed that set apart the African American slave trade from every other one I was reading about. is the fact that like even with the Russians being taken to the Ottoman Empire or Iraq, like

after a generation you had an ability to buy your way out or hustle your way out of that slavery. And it obviously didn't happen for every slave and you know, it had to be an exceptional case. And think about how fucked up that is. Think about somebody like like generation after generation like that's where we fuck. I mean

it's all fucked up. But like that was what was especially but not even generationally. There was people that could afford to pay for themselves to get out of slavery. But your kids behind. Your kid. It's horrible. That's what happened with Denmark in Charlottesah Carolina.

That's what was so evil about. It's horrible. I don't like that argument because it seems like you're calling all other slavery like slavery light. You're like, oh, they aren't really, they weren't really slaves. Like I've heard people do this. Who's fault is that though?

No, no. Like American slavery was so crazy. I mean, oh, you were slave in Europe? Oh, that was nothing. But you know why? Your mom and dad got taken from you when you were a kid. Oh, that's nothing compared to America. But you know why they feel that way? And I'm about to bring it back around.

Because of entertainment. Because of the movies and the TV shows. That's what they show us. They show us slavery in America and how brutal it was. I haven't seen the stories of the places. I've seen stories about the Holocaust. That's how I can say how brutal the Holocaust was. You know what I mean?

I haven't seen the stories about indigenous people and Native Americans. Like, they don't show us that. So going back with the Woman King, I appreciate the positive propaganda. If it's not, even if it's not based on a true story, I appreciate seeing a group of people talk about the complicated nature of slavery, actually have a conscience and say,

this is not something we want to do anymore, going to free other slaves and burning down the slave port. Why did I love Django? Because Django wasn't a victim. You know what I'm saying? Why do I love the Woman King? Because those women were not victims. Like there is some white people that get killed in that movie.

Really? Oh my God. I was in like the last 20 minutes, third best fight scene I ever seen in the movie ever. Really? Infinity War, endgame, woman king, damn it. Wow. Okay, that final fight scene was amazing.

I mean, they show some brutal shit, and I'm like, wow, that was great. That's fine. And guess what? Every now and then, that's what you need. You need to leave a movie feeling empowered because you see your people in a victorious position. that usually doesn't happen in those kind of movies.

So it's nice. I enjoyed it thoroughly. So y'all believe in reparations? That's all the one. That's the final question. Of course. Of course. Okay.

All right. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. TJ bottle pockets wants to know, how would your lives be different if you swapped heights? Swapped heights. Yeah. I wouldn't want to be that tough. I feel the same about your height.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to be that tall. You know what I'm saying? Because I wouldn't be 41, 36, 43 if I was, how tall of you? 6-2. Yeah, I don't want to be 6-2, 4136-43. You know what I'm saying? 4136-43 on this 5-7 frame sits right. Yeah.

That's why that little munch over there would be jealous as shit. You know what I mean? That's why that little motherfucker over there'd be jealous as shit when I walk in the room. I would, Erica Banks would have definitely went in the club with me. Oh, 100%. She would with me too. No, she wouldn't. No, she wouldn't.

No, she wouldn't. No, she wouldn't. The way that you're built, she would have absolutely been in there. Me? Yeah. Not Taylor. No, not Taylor. And having seizures all over the fucking.

Stop, see. You know what I'm saying? Why got time for that shit, man? No, we don't need that. Get her out of here. She's shaking again. Get her home. For no reason.

Put her in an Uber. And she's from Philly. So they're going to think she's killing it down south. Yeah. Yeah. You haul him shaking on the floor, son. Like, she killed it. I give us a time of it.

All right, so I and Woods wants to know what they think is the best green idiot moment so far. Wow. Nothing that we can talk about until we're 70. That's the answer. That right there is the answer. Nothing that we can talk about until we're 70-something years old. He also wants to know what do they think about the Little Mermaid trailer and how did Charlemagne's daughters react? Oh, yeah.

I forgot to show them. I literally told my daughter. You know, this guy is. I think she saw it by now. But when it came out, I'm like, oh, because I was telling her as I was walking outside, I was working out actually. And I was walking outside to go work out. And I meant to tell her when I come back, but I didn't, I'm a sure when I get back in.

I don't, I'm happy. To me, when I see that, it's like, yo, it's the little mermaid. Like, it's not a, I'm happy that Holly got the role, but I don't look at that as like a black thing. It's just like, yo, it's a dope actress playing. the Little Mermaid. Like, you know, I'd be trying to explain to my daughter, my oldest daughter

about how growing up, you know, we did, we, everything was white. Every cartoon, every person you saw in a book, like every,

every depiction of anything you saw was white. Pictures of authority, everything. So it's like, it's cool that, you know, that's changed, but,

you know, I like the woman king. I appreciate the woman king. Way more than the Little Mermaid Trail. That's just me personally. Okay, well, to piggyback off of what y'all said my earlier, Geronum underscore oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Once to know, what historical event would y'all go back in the past to film it in 8K?

We're on 8K now? That's a good fucking question, Jerome. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 8K. What historical. That fucking JFK assassination, bro. Nah, it's light, bro. Really?

Dave K. 8K. I know what I want to see. Uh-oh. What? That Ray J. T. Nah, bro. I want to see the crucifixion of Christ.

In 8K. Word is born. That shit would change the world. That footage would change the world. Blonde-haired, blue-eyed white. He would not be. That's what I'm saying. He would not be.

And somber as hell carrying that cross. But you know what's so funny? That's why I would change. change the world because only two things are going to happen. If Jesus is indeed black, which the Bible describes him as, if you're a racist and you're watching that video, well, you know what I mean? It's just another lynching of a black person. Or it might be like, damn, the person I've been worshipping all these years is a black man.

Yeah. Well, does the Bible say it's black? He says bronze. Same difference. No, he's Middle Eastern. He looks like, I think he looked like yasser Arafat or something. Whoa. It don't matter.

Alex said, Alex said he's Arab. It would not matter to a racist. He's brown. You know what I'm saying? He had a racist wouldn't give a shit. He had woolly hair like a lamb is what they said. Yeah, he got curls. He's white.

He's blue eyes. He's white as hell. That would literally change the world. How many people you think would leave Christianity if they found out Jesus was an Arab? Yeah, but how many people would join? That shit would be like Magic City on a Friday. What?

But the people who would join are, is it people that could actually show? shift things? I think yeah. I mean... Because if you've been worshipping a blue-eyed white man all of these years and you find out this person is brown, you've got to rethink some of these policies you've implemented the whole oppressed brown people. Oh yeah. Because yeah, they had like justifications for slavery all over the Bible. Now if Jesus is indeed white,

nothing changes people. Now what if you went back and it was white? It was weird, but he was white, blue eyes, like blonde hair, like Just like we imagined them and what happens that? Depends who did it to them. Well, we know who did it to them. No, we don't. We know who did it to him. No, we don't.

No, we don't. No, we don't. Yes, we do. We don't. We don't know for sure. Apologies. The Chinese did it, my friends. The Chinese did it.

That's what I mean. They did it. So what if it's it? What if it is? What if you go back in everything we thought about that situation? It's not it. It changes the world. That's the one you want.

want to see in a what did you say okay i started to say okay how did they pin them up to the cross it was throwing stars some people that say it's not it wasn't a cross there's some people that that is japanese this is jesus we're talking about it's right sorry about what i mean what if it's just hey soos oh shit and he built across himself All I'm simply saying is... There was Mexicans out there, bro. There's a story that they told us. What was Jesus?

What was Jesus? For a living. What do you do? A carpenter. That is true. Hey, that is true. As always, if you look to this podcast, you think we're smart,

you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening.