The Brilliant Idiots - The Hit List (Ft. Akaash Singh)

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

This week on Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God  links up with Akaash Singh for a wild ride of politics, comedy, and straight-up chaos. From Mayor Adams’ spin on gentrification to free speech wa...rs with Jimmy Kimmel, Trump’s revenge tour, and whether Kamala Harris can actually keep it real – nothing is off the table. The guys break down New York’s vibes, argue over who should really be paying the dinner check, and dive deep into loyalty, lies, and why perception always seems louder than reality. Plus, some unfiltered takes on bots running social media, H1B visas, and why free speech is under fire. Build credit fast and get your first month for just a dollar at GetKikoff.com/IDIOTS today. Thanks to Kikoff for sponsoring us! ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots The Voice in my head is God Pre Order The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel Order Link Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order Link No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF Order Link Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God Order Link Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Charlemagne de God. We are the Burriene Nidians podcast. Andrew Schultz, Zachia Walker. It's still a way of filming street fighter. Andrew was being that movie a lot. Because 50 was there and back, but Andrew's still over there. Akash Sing is here. Akash Ashkosh.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Yes, sir. How are you, man? I'm good, man. How are you? I am blessed black and highly favorite. How was your week, bro? I bless Brown and highly favorite. There you are.
Starting point is 00:00:24 You absolutely are. You know, I was telling you before we started the show, we had Mayor Adams on. And Mayor Adams was saying that when Donnie's supporters are the gentrifiers. They are, though. But I was like, who? He kept saying the people. And I was like, who?
Starting point is 00:00:37 So I said Indians because a large portion of people who went out there and voted him in the primary were Indians. And he was like, no. And I was like, who rich white people? And I'm like, oh, you got to be specific. Who are these gentrifier? No, he means, it's not racial. It's the kids who live off their parents' income. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Outside of Indians, because we like them. But the kids who live off their parents' income and have all these ideas about socialism and how they know how the world should work, even though they've never had a real job, those guys vote from them done. How do you give a more eloquent answer than the mayor of New York? I feel like if you're going to say that,
Starting point is 00:01:10 you've got to be able to answer who people are, because somebody's going to ask that. Look at his supporters. You know, these are the same, his heart and soul of his community at those same churchifiers that moved us out of our communities and are disrespectful in our community.
Starting point is 00:01:25 That is the heart and soul. So we're buying into a concept of a person. What do you mean about it? Look at his supporters. Those are the same. His supporters, that mean spirit, pocket? You mean like Indians?
Starting point is 00:01:39 I'm sorry? What do you mean? No, no, no, no. When you look at Harlem, Best Eye, other parts of our community, when you saw the change of our demographics, you saw gentrification coming to our communities, that's the heart and soul of his supporters. That's the heart and soul of it. Other people have bought into the message.
Starting point is 00:01:59 and started growing, but the heart and soul of his supporters are those same people that came in and gentrified our communities in the first place, won't patronize our restaurants, wanted to change of school. The rich white people? Because they're not black. No, not, it's not even, justification. You got to be specific when you say that. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Justification to me is not an ethnicity. Ethnicity is a mindset. He wasn't prepared for you. You're a good interviewer. You ask follow-ups. He's interviewed a billion times. Like, I'm listening to Madam.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And I like, Madam's eye. me, I don't, you know, I don't live in New York, so I don't have, you know, I don't, what is the issue with that? That's a very political way of saying you wouldn't like Mayor Adams if he had anything to do with you. No, actually, I don't think I don't have a problem with Manhattan, but I also, you know, don't live in New York City. Tell me the problem. Nothing seems better. He'll tell you everything is better. Nothing feels better. I was walking to, I don't remember where I was walking, but I saw three guys shooting heroin, and then I saw a guy with no shirt on, walking down the street, piece of a small intestine sticking out of his stomach. Damn. What looked like shit smeared
Starting point is 00:02:58 all over his stomach. That wasn't happening in Bloomberg's New York. Definitely wasn't happening to Bloomberg's New York. Valid question I asked Mayor Adams, though, I said, because he was explaining all of these things that he's done, right? Because he said, you got to remember, I got an office during COVID. But he was explaining about all of the progress that they've made and the things that they've done better. So I say, well, if you've done all of those things better, how come what you've actually done isn't resonating as much as Mondani's messaging about what he will do?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Good question. Because to me, action should speak louder than words. What did he say? I actually said Mondani's just a better liar. That's what he said? He said Mondani's just a bad. He said Mondani knows how to sell the lie better. A year in office, I sat down with the team.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I said, listen, I don't have any control on the price of bread, but I could put bread back in the pockets of New Yorker. We put $30 billion back into the pockets of New Yorkers. What does that look like? Free high-speed broadband for NYCHA and other homes. That's $159 a month. We dropped the cost of child care.
Starting point is 00:04:03 If you have two children in schools, we dropped the cost of child care. We dropped the cost of child care from $22, $20 a month, the less than $20 a month. That's another $200. We're paying off medical debt. If you're a low-income New York and you have medical debt, we're paying that off for you. You're not long have to pay for that.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Of universal after-school program for free. Paying the college tuition of our foster care children. So when you start picking apart our programs, it comes to a total of $30 billion. So why are those actual actions not resonating with people, but when Donnie's messaging of affordability is? Because if you actually already are putting more money back in people's pockets, why is it not resonating?
Starting point is 00:04:48 but his messaging of affordability is. Without a doubt, brother, think about for a moment. Because what he has done successfully it says, I'm going to identify the pain that people are feeling. Yes, Eric is addressing it, but you're not learning about that I'm addressing it because it's not being covered.
Starting point is 00:05:04 We need to be clear on that. And so what he has done successfully is said, I'm going to identify the pain that people are feeling. I'm just going to tell them anything that they want to hear. But it shouldn't be no pain if you're actually addressing the issue.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, but going back to what all of you said, perception is reality. Yeah, but that's not the point. The point is your reality is not matching up to what you're telling. That's right, because he kept talking about perception. Like, you know, perception and the media shapes the perception and, you know, envy, you asked the question about, you know, people, the same thing you
Starting point is 00:05:32 just said, people feel away. But this is what we're actually doing. But my thing is, if you're actually doing those things, then people shouldn't feel that way. Yeah. And maybe it feels less dangerous than it did a year ago. But I remember walking by Penn Station, and you, I mean, you live in Jersey, but you probably drive.
Starting point is 00:05:48 You just see guys outside of Penn Station shooting drugs. But isn't that New York, though? Yeah, that's all. And wasn't New York when I moved here. Penn Station has always been. Nah, no, I do. No, that's not true. I used to go to Penn Station.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Nah, bro, I went to Penn Station every day when I lived in Sycoccus and I was broke. That's how I got back and forth. It didn't feel great, but it didn't feel like this. Yeah, I moved here in 06. Who was here in Bloomberg in 06, right? Bloomberg was the shit. Yeah, from when I moved up here, when Wendy, I was in Penn Station every day, coming from Fort Lee, New Jersey, on the bus.
Starting point is 00:06:18 to Penn Station, and I never once felt like, damn, it's dangerous. If I had to guess, I think they have a bunch of homeless shelters that they move towards that area. Because people don't like it in their neighborhoods. Since that's so commercial, not too many people complain about it. Because I have a studio over there,
Starting point is 00:06:33 and there's a hotel that it's actually like a homeless shelter. You got a studio by Penn Station? Yeah, it's on 38th and 8th. So you got two WTS? Yeah. You haven't known this? You got four? God.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Damn, Alex and Weezy getting motherfucking money. Alex's rich, dude. How did you not know this? I thought you had two. I thought you had one over there and then one in L.A. Alex has that SS truck. What do you call it? I know he got the cyber truck.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Shut up. Yeah. Hey, salute to your car, Alex. Salute to your car. My heart goes out to your car. Hell, Alex, is crazy. That's crazy. I already got niggas.
Starting point is 00:07:09 They draw dicks on my car and shit like that. I don't need that. That's great. I didn't know that. I got a little carried away with that one. So what the sets look like? I know what the set's look like. over there looks like. No, I got two in Soho, two in Midtown and one in L.A.
Starting point is 00:07:22 God damn. Congratulations W.T. fucking Fling. I film all my, my wife has a podcast. She films out there. I film whenever I do my podcast in L.A. Alex, don't ever give us a discount. Never. Never. In the beginning. I don't keep coming back, nigga. But honestly, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want a discount. If I was you, I wouldn't want a discount. I've never asked, to be fair. He also never offered. If I was, I just noticed he never offered. I would say no. Yeah. He just never was like, I'll give you one. Because it's like you got it. No, I don't, I want to support.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I also don't want my friends to be like, hey, can you, if my friends say, hey, you think he'd give us a discount, now I get to say I pay full price, so I doubt it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he also never offered. I don't know. Now I feel bad because I thought we weren't. No, it's fine. I would have said no, but you just didn't ask and that's all I noticed is. I never understand giving people with money discounts.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It makes no sense to me. I refer him quite a few people. That's what I'm saying. Like, what's the point of giving people with money? So when you go to dinner with a friend, you don't offer to pay? I got a rule. if I know this person's richer than me, why would I disrespect that individual?
Starting point is 00:08:20 See, I'm more likely to pay if they're richer than me because I don't want them to feel like I'm using them. Now, I'll act like I'm reaching for my wallet. You know what I mean? But by the way, that's all I wanted. That's exactly what I want. You see what I'm saying? Oh, I'll take care of you.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I got you. I got you. But most people who really, really got it going to pay for it before you even know that the bill has even came. The bill has been taken care of. By the time you fake reaching for your wallet, you know what I mean? and they're like, oh, it's already taken care of.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Exactly. I didn't even know we was charging you. Now, I'm not entitled. I'm not entitled to it. But I just always have had a rule. If a person has more money to me, I don't want to insult them and pay their bill.
Starting point is 00:08:56 That's just stupid. How do you order? Do you order whatever you want? Yeah, because I can pay for it if I need to. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I'm not, I can order whatever the fuck I want on the menu because I can pay for it. You know, this is probably not exclusive to Indian families,
Starting point is 00:09:09 but like, we will fight over who pays the bill. It's like a fight. Yeah. Like a real fight? Like a real fight? Like legit? grabbing the wrestling with the billfold, all that. Why?
Starting point is 00:09:18 I don't know. It's just a cultural thing. That's how we grew up seeing our parents do it. And then you get older and you're like, no, I want to pay for this. I want to do this for you. It's a nice thing. So let me pay. Have you ever taken it back?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Have you ever, like, offered the payment and taken it back? No, no, no, no. You know what they call that, right? In the end. Oh, man. Listen, free speech, Akash. I love free speech, dude. You know what they call it when you knock on someone's door and run off?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'm just asking a question. What do they call it? I don't know. I'm asking you. Oh, my God. Jimmy Kimmel. That's one of the reasons I needed Acacia today because I needed a comedian's perspective. And I guess not just comedians nowadays because I'm just interested in a lot of different things about this conversation.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Okay, talk to me. Where do we begin here? I think for me, right, everybody keeps talking about free speech. Correct. When it comes to the Jimmy Kimball conversation. Correct. And it's not just Jimmy. I guess you got to go back to free speech even with Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 00:10:36 The reason I don't like people that are conflating the two issues or acting like the two issues are equal is because Charlie Kirk got murdered. by just some random mentally ill kid, or just some, you know, violent kid who decided he wanted to take Charlie Kirk out because he didn't personally agree with his speech. That's a big difference between the government, the president of the United States of America, you know, weaponized the FCC to make a company
Starting point is 00:11:05 and a network punish their talent. Absolutely. It's literally not the same. I don't even know why people are conflating the two. Yeah. But I do feel like when I watched Jimmy Kimmel last night, I thought he played it too safe with his monologue. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:23 He was classier than I thought he would be. But I thought he tried to be like a human being about it. I thought he tried to be empathetic about it. To be honest, I think he tried to do what liberals always think they tried to do and do not, which is have empathy and be open-minded about it. For the other side. Yeah, I think he actually, in that way, I was like, I was happy he handled it how he had. By the way, I like Kimmel. I like Kimmel. I met Kimmel a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Purdy's the nicest guy. Everybody, he is. When you meet him, he's a very nice person and people have nothing but great things to say about him. But I just felt like now was not the time to play it safe. John Stewart didn't play it safe. Stephen Colbert didn't play it safe. I didn't understand why Jimmy Kimmel was kind of both sidesing it a little. What did he say that was both sides in it? Because it felt like he wanted to apologize. He felt like he apologized without apologizing.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Okay. Like, can we play something up it? Can we play something up it? Yeah, I don't mind a guy saying, hey, I regret what I said, but freedom of speech is. But he didn't say that, though. I thought he kind of. That's what I'm saying. It was the tone of that.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I thought he did. I thought he said, like, if you interpreted it a certain way, I apologize and I understand. Then he said, but he never apologized. That's my point. Here's what he also said that I thought was cool. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would probably react like you guys, which I thought was very mature of him to do and to call attention to.
Starting point is 00:12:44 But after you get your hand slapped a little bit, you understand what I'm saying? I thought he did the mature thing. The therapist Charlemagne should like this. By the way, I have to say, I haven't gotten to see you in person. The Dame Dash interview really made me so happy because that's my favorite Charlemant.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Is untherapized, debt dash, debt jam. But those are just jokes. The jokes, enough, I can always snap. They never went nowhere. You know, y'all just want the snaps to come from a place of, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:18 No. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's hear some of Jimmy's monologue, man. Breaking news on Jimmy Kimmel and autism. Jimmy Kimmel. Using all the Fox movie.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The montage is great. ABC chose to bring back their low-rating night-time hosts. We are in for a monologue. an incredible opening line. His opening line? It's going to be in a moment. Yeah, no question. A huge moment in American history.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It's one of the most pivotal moments in broadcast history. He will be delivering what is being dubbed the most anticipated monologue in late night in years. And thanks for telling your followers that our government cannot be allowed to control what we do and do not say on television, and that we have to stand. up to it. I've been hearing a lot about what I need to say and do tonight. And the truth is,
Starting point is 00:14:15 I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference. If you like me, you like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. He did, you do. I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a man. I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed, sending love to his family, and asking for compassion. And I meant it, and I still do. Nor was it my attention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point
Starting point is 00:14:58 I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset. If the situation was reverse, there's a good chance, I'd have felt the same way. I have many friends. It felt like I'm sorry without saying I'm sorry. And it's like he didn't make light of Charlie Kirk's death. But isn't that the best way to handle it? Because he's not saying I'm sorry for anything. Here's the thing. He's saying you misunderstood me. I lost my train of thought earlier, but this is what I wanted to say. Everybody's acting like this is an attack on free speech. Donald Trump just has a hit list, bro. Yeah. Yeah. But in that hit list, he used, he attacked free speech.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I don't know if he would be attacking free speech if he didn't already have a list. He wouldn't, but it's still an attack on free speech. Does that make sense? Yes, yes, it is. I agree. But I think the bigger issue here is Donald Trump has a list of politicians, purse media personalities. He has a list of people that he wants to attack.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And I think sometimes we get lost in the, oh, this is an attack on free speech. When that bigger issue is, no, you got a real vindictious. the president who we all knew when he got back in the White House, he was going to be on a revenge tour. People don't believe when I say this, I didn't know it's going to be like this.
Starting point is 00:16:17 This is not, this don't make anybody happy. I didn't know it's going to be like this. Here you go, you're about to go viral again. He's been on my time. I've been seeing this all week. And they don't,
Starting point is 00:16:26 all they say is the flagrant boys. I didn't vote for the man. I talked to him. I don't believe that. As I should. What do you mean? Raise your hand if you believe Akash voted for Trump.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I don't believe you, Dad, Krakash. Why would I not? Why would I lie about that? Andrew, I could have easily just joined it. I'm the most loyal guy. I'd have joined Andrew and I voted for him. I was uneasy when he won't.
Starting point is 00:16:45 No, but you couldn't, though. Why didn't I? Because you're Indian. You couldn't really, you couldn't say that you voted for Trump so easily. Why? Not as easy as Andrew. It's much more likely I get deported saying I didn't vote for him. I didn't vote for Kamala.
Starting point is 00:16:59 To be fair. What? No. And she's Indian. When convenient. So who did you vote for? I didn't vote. I like that.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I generally don't vote, but I also, I remember saying to, because I also live in Texas, like I'm based in Texas, and my cousin or my brother-in-law or something was saying, like, man, Texas might swing blue. I said, if Kamala gets within 10% of Trump, I will pay you 10,000. He thought Texas was going to swing blue. He thought it could. I said, if she gets within 10%, I'll pay you $10,000. I would love to know what made him think Texas was.
Starting point is 00:17:31 You know how delusional everyone was? They thought she was a good candidate. Have you seen the clip where they said, why would you not have Pete Buttigia just because he's gay. I read the book. And then Kamala was like, no, I didn't say I didn't choose him because he was gay. I said because we had 107 days,
Starting point is 00:17:46 I couldn't pick a gay person. No, no, no, it was so, it was, it was bad. I saw the whole thing. I read, I read the book from beginning to end. Number one, I think it is a great book. How long was it 107 pages? No, it's not long at all. It's really not long at all,
Starting point is 00:17:58 because it literally goes in days. She skips two days, though, and I wonder why. Nobody's asked her that just. She skips, I think it's the 12th and the 13th for the 11th and 12th. I don't remember why. But it's a really good book, but it's a fast read because it's just, it goes by days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 So it's literally like two, three pages of a day. That's your diary. Why am I reading your diary without any of the- I love it. I think that if Democrats don't get any feelings, which they already have, this could be a great reset for the Democratic Party. Because the Democrats need honesty. They need truth.
Starting point is 00:18:27 They needed it last motherfucking year. I would love for her to come on flagrant and also just admit, yeah, you guys did ask us. We thought it was risky, blah, blah, blah. That is a good point because that is where I think she's been dropping the ball on her book tour. Yeah. Because it's just like go to the places they told you that you didn't go during your campaign. You're still going to all of the safe traditional spaces. You're still going to the view.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You're still going to, you know. Can you tell her this personally hit her on Black Planet or whatever? I'm saying it right here right now. I feel like she's still playing it too safe. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And you're on Rachel Maddo. like you said, like backtracking what is actually in the book.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm reading the book like, yes, Kamala. Yeah, finally. She's being honest. Yes, but then you go on TV and revert, revert, resort. What's the word? Revert back to being a politician. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 00:19:19 We read the book. Absolutely. You know? I agree. Now, having said all of that, I'm surprised this guy's hit list is so open. And I think I didn't expect it to be this insane. And everybody, typically when people are like the worst case scenario, people, I'm like, it's not going to be that bad.
Starting point is 00:19:34 This is that bad. this is a hit list and he's using free speech to get it and I'm always going to be in favor of free speech. Even Alex Jones getting deplatformed, even though I hated everything he had to say and I was kind of happy I didn't have to deal with the shit back then. I was like he shouldn't be though. You know why nobody felt like Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:19:50 would seek revenge because people don't look at him as human but when you look at everything that he went through the four years that Biden was in office. Yes, that man was. was going to go, of course, when he got back in power. Are you saying because people were so punitive and, like, grinding him down? How many charges did he have, Chris?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Quite a few. You had to know that. That's why it should have been so dire to keep him out of office. That's why I don't care what nobody says. Joe Biden's legacy is shit. I agree with that. I thought it was shit before. But it was definitely was shit after the original sin.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And it's definitely shit after 107 days because as Kamala says in 107 days, Joe Biden's second, his second term, him running again shouldn't have been left up to his own ego. I agree. Because shit was that serious. It was embarrassing. Shit was that serious.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So everybody's sitting around saying, my God, I can't believe Trump's doing this. You had to know Trump was going to be like this. Number one, because he's Donald Trump, but also number two, because of everything that they put him through. So why wouldn't they fight like hell? Fuck, fuck a Merrick Garland. Why wouldn't you hire an attorney general?
Starting point is 00:21:05 that you know it's going to go out there and prosecute the case against him. If you thought he was such an existential threat, Joe Biden, why didn't you govern like it? And furthermore, why didn't you simply say, I'm a one-term president, I'm getting out the way. The states are too high in the future for this country for me to sit around and bullshit
Starting point is 00:21:23 and even attempt the run again. And then drop out with 107 days and say, here, y'all take it? He was forced to. I don't know why y'all not furious at President Biden. Yeah. I really hope. I don't.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Only way I'm not furious because most people... First of all, that was beautiful. That was firing brimstone. That was awesome. Most people who have dementia don't realize how much dementia they got. So it's like, he thought he still had it. Take the keys from the guy with dementia. You got a grandfather with dementia.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He's like, I could drive. You're like, no, grandpa. You can't. He's driving the country. Who's going to tell the president you can't run against? Everybody around him. The black and Indian woman. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah, but that's the thing. I got an Indian woman who tells me what I can't do all the time. Yes. Your wife. Yes. And he was listening to only his wife. That was the only person he was listening to. So why wasn't nobody screaming at Jill?
Starting point is 00:22:15 Hey, maybe we should be, maybe we should be upset at Jill. I love blaming women. I love that. When you watch, I love that. That's one of my favorite things to do. When you watch Jimmy Kimmel going through what he's going through, are, you know, damn. God bless the dead Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 00:22:31 When you see that type of stuff, right? Yeah. It is because they didn't fight hard enough when they were in office. They didn't govern hard enough and they didn't fight like now. Charlie Kirk thing we can't put on. Let's put Charlie Kirk. I agree with your journal point. Let's just, to be safe, let's put Charlie Kirk out of whatever cause that because that's the mentally old person.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But I think the political rhetoric would have been way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way down. That is. Wait, what are we talking about? Like, I think it would have been way down. Yeah. I mean, according to what the internet is saying, it's not like. he got clapped because, you know, it was some super liberal. No.
Starting point is 00:23:08 That was, you know, from what I've been seeing, they said he wasn't conservative enough. No. Am I making this up? Yeah, no. There's a certain group saying that, but some people would be like, I think that's like Nick Fuentes and his people are saying he wasn't right enough. But I don't know. It's... I think he was also apparently a Fuentes fan.
Starting point is 00:23:25 He was a griper. Yeah, that's what they said. One of the bullets said. And that's getting lost. Everybody's acting like that conference, that, that didn't happen. And they said one of the bullets said that on there. Yeah. What the fuck is it?
Starting point is 00:23:36 A grape. It sounds like a fish. It does sound like a fish. I don't know what the etymology is. Let's not pull a Jimmy Kimmel right now and try to identify what party this guy was from. Let's just say it's mentally is. This has nothing to do with the party. I'm just saying, I'm just talking about the climate.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Yeah. I know that the climate of the world would be completely different if Donald Trump was white. It would be different. There's no causation. Yeah, exactly. The climate of the world would be completely different. Yeah, absolutely. You saw four years of Biden and it was a lot quieter.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And I don't know why. once again, everybody's not going back to the route. None of this would be happening right now if President Biden didn't lead with ego. The original, and if everybody around President Biden didn't lie to him about the condition that he was in, if they didn't try to tell us the American people that we were tripping when we called him out
Starting point is 00:24:23 for being like, this guy can't win, this guy's oldish shit? Like, why, why all of a sudden now everybody's just acting so clueled? The guy was stumbling all over interviews, And then people were like, oh, behind closed doors, he's sharp as he's ever been. No, he's not. You shouldn't be blaming no voters. You shouldn't even be blaming Trump.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You should blame the Democrat. No, Chris, how? The Democrats had the power. They had it for four years, Chris. You're acting like Trump behaving the way he's behaving, moving the way he's moving is a foregone conclusion. He is not a kid. That's good. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:24:58 I mean, Biden lost. his legacy is over, but when you talk about furious, I'm furious at Trump. I'm not furious of Biden. Can you be curious at both? I mean, I wish he had done a thousand things differently. I wish his circle. His point is, we wouldn't have Trump. But it's almost like, well, Trump just has to be Trump.
Starting point is 00:25:18 He has no choice in the matter. We're not removing him from being any culpability, but I think Charlemagne is saying is, you knew what he was going to be. Yes. You know what for sure. You guys told us on every turn what a threat he was. And maybe we didn't listen enough, but also you didn't give us an alternative that was very appealing at all. And you didn't act like he was actually that type of threat. You just said it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But you never did anything to actually show it. I think they thought Biden could win because he'd won once. Honestly, I think it's that simple. I think that's what they thought. And I think they didn't give credit to the Democratic voters that if they let, if they had a primary, they would be able to do it. I also think they didn't trust moderates to vote for a woman of color. which there's probably a lot of people who wouldn't have. But if you let Kamala go on some of these other...
Starting point is 00:26:04 Flagrant, I swear to God, would have made her look great. It was not... It's never our intention to make a guest look bad, and we're pretty good at making you look good. But y'all are... But y'all are missing the point, but I want you all to step back again. We wouldn't even have got to Kamala
Starting point is 00:26:18 if Joe Biden would have said, hey, I'm going to be a one-term president and see that. Because then there would have been a primary, and then there would have been a bunch of other candidates. and that bench of Democratic candidates that they had, they could have had them all out there. This is my question. Who's the they in this scenario?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Right? Because it's like... The Pelosi's or whoever the gentleman. Oh, all of them that pushed the... So there's a vaccine. Have you read the original sin? No, I need to. You got to read the original sin.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And you got to read Kamala's 100 and 70 days. I read half of original sin. I thought you're talking about Kamalism. It tells you who all of the days are. So the question is there's a vacuum now in terms of Democratic leadership, right? Clearly, whoever the day is, and I don't know who they are.
Starting point is 00:26:59 By person, they fail, right? Like, there's no other way to look at it. They fuck this up. That's right. So who's coming in now? John Stewart? But see, but that's why I love Kamala's book, and that's why I keep saying Democrats shouldn't be in any feelings about this book.
Starting point is 00:27:12 If you get out of your feelings and you actually embrace the truth that she's saying, it's perfect because she blows it all up. What did she say? She basically said that the old regime was undermining her. The Biden administration was undermining her at every turn. And they all should have taken the threat of Donald Trump, seriously and shouldn't have left it up to Joe Biden's ego. Remember what I was telling you about that?
Starting point is 00:27:31 That went viral this week, not me saying it, but about how Joe Biden called her on debate day to basically get in her head and tell her that these other donors don't fuck with her like that and to make me look good and blah, blah, blah, this and that. She was like, why would you do this to me on debate day? This is my question. I don't know if she addresses in the book. Why didn't she throw an audible? And it's easy for me to say that sitting here.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Loyalty. Blind loyalty. Literally, blind loyalty. That's what she keeps saying. Blind loyalty. That's a, then you're not electable. Right. I don't want you to be president.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I want you to be a leader. If you're going to put loyalty over common sense, that's something I would do and I shouldn't be president. You're right? You know what I mean? Like, to your point, she, I think, is also just, she's not really admitting any wrongdoing. Going on the other platforms. Okay, based on what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yeah, in her book, she does. What did she did wrong? She was too loyal. Literally. That's all. What a fucking flaw that is. What an easy way to say some shit. Come on.
Starting point is 00:28:24 He put her in that position. If I killed somebody that insulted my friend, and then I was at my parole hearing, and they're like, what do you think you did wrong? I was like, I was just too loyal. No, you murdered someone. That's true. You fucked up a lot of things. And saying I was too loyal is the most self-flattering way to say you fucked up. I get me the same.
Starting point is 00:28:42 But that's not a good reason. I mean, he didn't kill anybody. He was just a little bit off mentally. He wasn't as sharp mentally. But if she's trying to have a conversation with him and he's saying, hey, I'm good enough to run. What does she mean? No, no. When they ask you this.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And I think, honestly, what we forget, and I think this is where she lost the election. The view. The view. What would you do differently than Joe Biden? I can't think of anything. Right there, it's over. She got a whole chapter about it in the book.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And she admits I fucked up right here. Yeah. But not because I was too loyal. Because you decided. She said that out of loyalty to not make him look back. That's right. Then you're, then you shouldn't be running the country.
Starting point is 00:29:20 That's not a person who's like, you know what? I'm going to put loyalty ahead of the general well-being of a country is not fit to be. president. She says, and I'm paraphrasing in that chapter. Also, yo, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all just became friends three years ago. No, they've been friends for a while. She said, she said this. Put her in
Starting point is 00:29:36 that position. Did she remember she... Her and Bowes to be really cool. Remember she dogged his ass out at the first primary debate? Joe, that really hurt my feelings. That really hurt my feelings when you said that. In tears, you weren't loyal then. She, um, she says in that chapter that she basically, uh,
Starting point is 00:29:52 she basically, she, she She forgot, but she didn't realize how much what they were actually doing wasn't resonating with people. And I'm paraphrasing here because she didn't, she knew Joe Biden was unpopular, but she just thought that everybody could see the difference between her and Joe, which I don't understand why she would think that. They just met you. Like, you just started running a few weeks ago. And you said he didn't do anything wrong. So how are we going to differentiate the two? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:25 She was in a hard position, right? I mean, she was in a hard position because she was playing politics. Exactly. But, I mean, that's what she's been doing. She's a career politician. She's a career politician, man. I'm not going to lie. I am blindly loyal to Andrew.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I am blindly loyal to you. I am blindly loyal to Alex. Don't vote for me for a single fucking thing ever. I wouldn't run for a single. By the way, I don't even call that blindly loyal. I'm riding for my people. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Right or wrong. I'd rather you say that. I'm riding for my people right or wrong. That's her version of saying. Nah, because I'm not blind with my loyalty. My loyalty can see very well. You know what I'm saying? I'm not blind with it.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And you and y'all should be able to see like, I already know how he's going to come about his people. Yeah, okay. So that's not blind loyalty. Blind loyalty. Question. If Andrew says some crazy shit, you're not going to get publicly say,
Starting point is 00:31:17 I agree with it. I don't understand what he said. I agree with it. You're not going to get online. I'm acting like I didn't see it. Exactly. But that's just blind. But that's what she did.
Starting point is 00:31:26 That's just blind. That's exactly what she did. Okay. Yeah, she did the same thing. But that's why you shouldn't be president. That's why you shouldn't run. Oh, okay. She should have said, I'm not going to run.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I know. Because I'm not prepared to go against this guy, and I know people aren't happy with him. I'm not going to run. I just think it's a very easy thing to be like to write entire book saying, oh, yeah, hey, I'll tell you what, we fucked up. It's because I was too loyal. Somebody had to do it, though. That's my flaw.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Oh, I know somebody had to do it, Akos, because I've been saying. whoever's going to lead the party now and into the future has to throw the old regime under the button. There's nobody better to do it than her. It's one thing when you hear from Jake Tapper and all these anonymous sources, when the actual VP says, no, we fucked up. I was a part of the fuck up. This is where we fucked up. I'm with that. My only problem is when you go on TV now, had that same energy.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah. I just read the books. I'm looking forward to seeing some interviews. And I'm like, what do you mean? You didn't say this and that. Like, what do you mean? You didn't mean it that way. Like, no.
Starting point is 00:32:26 That's another reason she probably didn't win. But that's not just, we can't just do racism, sexism. They can't. They go back to the politician back. They become a politician when they are public speaking. Yeah, I'm not with the racism sexism thing. When 72 million plus people vote for you, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And as she said, it was the closest election of the 21st century. That's what she said. It was number-wise. She just got swept in all the swing states. Yeah, sure, dude. And even with Hillary, yo. Hillary won the popular vote by over 3 million, 4 million votes. As men, we shouldn't allow the sexism shit.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah, I don't. We was out there. I voted for Hillary and Kamala. Yep, me too. You know what I'm saying? I don't like that sexism conversation. Yeah. Because once again, Hillary had 3 million, 4 million more to popular vote than Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It was not for that fucked up with electoral college. Hillary Clinton is president. Yep, it's true. Kamala Harris had the second highest votes of any Democratic nominee ever. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes, behind Joe Biden. Because we voted a lot more. Damn, you know, that's the one still,
Starting point is 00:33:25 every time I say that, it don't even feel right. See, what? What you said? I'm not saying nothing. But every time I say that, say what? When I'd be like, she had the second highest. Because you know your captain ever because, no, it's true. It's true, but you know, spiritually you're capping.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Just how? That's why. I just want to know how? Because you are, you know when Ben Shapiro's like facts, you don't support your feelings, but the facts he have all support his feelings? It's like conveniently handpicked facts. That. The facts don't support my feelings because of how bad I'm looking at how things were.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Because of what I saw. I just saw a lot of this. Because of the original thing you said. Because you were doing a lot of auntie movement. It's just like, how to fuck did Joe Biden get all those votes? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, because he didn't. I'm not saying he didn't.
Starting point is 00:34:14 He clearly did. No, I think that's what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I sounded a lot like Trump right now. No, we're not. That's what he said. No, I think that's what you said.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Well, the straight-up said the election was rigged. Oh, I thought that's what you were saying. No. Yeah, that's what the fuck I'm saying. Who said that? That's what it feels like yesterday. You? Nah.
Starting point is 00:34:27 You're sure? You got that from that? It's more fun if I do. Damn. Yes. But back to Jimmy Kimmel's monologue. I just felt it was too safe for the moment. I thought you're trying to be classy.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And Jimmy's not a guy who I would think would just fire bazookas at anything. Like, Schultz would go super hard and super reckless. I never saw Kimmel as that guy. And the fact that Sinclair Networks still didn't put the show back on. Cinclair Networks is still wanting him to apologize. They want him to donate a bunch of money to the Charlie Kirk Foundation. As we said, free speech is under attack. Why don't you know Trump got a list?
Starting point is 00:35:06 I just felt like it was just too safe, especially being we know what the outcome is ultimately going to be. You think he still gets canned? Yes. Yes. I don't think so. Yes. At some point, yes. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Sinclair's not putting his show on, bro. Yeah. Sinclair's like, they said Sinclair's like responsible for majority of his markets. 60 different markets and they don't, they're not carrying his show. Disney has deep enough pockets where they can eat that. I don't know. They do. I don't know, right?
Starting point is 00:35:36 And Sinclair wants the merger with Tegna. I guess a lot going on here. I think ultimately Trump gets his way. I really do. And Andy Jabba McGi. Yeah, you already got his way. Yeah. You already got his way.
Starting point is 00:35:49 That's the thing. He probably will. How? The fact that it even is at this point, he won. Well, a president can't. I mean, there's a million things I could say, but like, I think what Kim only needs to understand is it's not about him anymore. And that's what I had hoped to understand. Okay. That's what I'm trying to say, Chris. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:36:06 It's not about you and your show anymore. Yes. Your show was the one that was picked at this moment to see what Trump could get away with. And he got to get, he got away with it. And from this moment on, it's about protecting democracy. But that's why I said he played it too safe for this moment. He has to be a warrior right now. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's all up. Yes. For everyone's sake, honestly, because the pendulum swings both ways. One party or group can be in power now. If this keeps going on, it's going to come back and smack all the Trump supporters in four years. And then it almost has to. I'm with you, Chris, but we know Democrats too pussy for that to happen. Because, I would agree with you if they weren't so pussy.
Starting point is 00:36:46 That's why Republicans aren't afraid of it. They're like, give him the gun. I turn my back on this motherfucker. He ain't going to do shit. You heard the thing that the Biden administration was putting pressure on Google to censor a bunch of stuff on YouTube. They were also violating free speech, which is the same thing as what the FCC did to Kim on a way. Yeah, but it's more like a, that's like a kid threatening you. Put him a, put him out.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I want to fight you. I'm going to fight you. Let's fight. Let's fight. But why? Our first Alex Jones episode got taken down probably for the best. Because he said some shit about vaccines that they said. said is misinformation.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Episode is gone forever. Really? Well, Alex also didn't back it up. But I think he did that on purpose. Hold on, you never record, you didn't back up? You didn't back it up? I ain't like that guy, I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You made an executive decision? No, he never recorded. He never backed up anything. But I, you know. You made an executive decision, Alex? Yeah, I'm not going to stay on that. Sometimes you've got to save him by that from myself. I'm not mad at that.
Starting point is 00:37:39 All right. But one thing people aren't pointing out is that Kimball did point out how the FCC chair had made those threats. Like he basically outlined how, hey, we got a case if y'all want to take it there. And I think that's why he didn't want to go so hard. He's like, hey. What do you mean? The FCC got a case?
Starting point is 00:37:59 No, no, no. Disney and Kimmel, they have a case. Against who? Because the FCC publicly, this is the government, putting pressure on private institutions to... But I didn't need Jimmy's monologue to know that. We heard it. I know. We saw it.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That was kind of, it was like a veil threat where it's like, I don't think it was veiled. I didn't think we were bail at all. He saw it. He literally said we can do this the easy way or the hard way. Frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or, you know, there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead. No.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Jimmy's response. But how is Jimmy's response a veiled threat? Yeah, I don't. Basically, like, they can sue. Yeah, but how is Jimmy telling. the government or whoever they would sue that, hey, just so you know, we still got that in our back pocket. You're saying that's what he was implying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 How? By pointing out, he was like, hey, this is the government FCC putting pressure on a private institution. Like, he just pointed it out, said it publicly. And I think he said that in his monologue? Yeah, in the monologue. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought that when he had the guy, I played a mob boss. That was Robert De Niro.
Starting point is 00:39:11 That was Robert De Niro. That was in a different sketch, but he also, I think, said it. This is one we need to fight for free speech. So I think that's enough where it's just like. It's going to be on Disney whether or not they want to fight that fight. They're not. And that's my whole point. What I keep saying about when I even talk about Trump's list.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Trump has a list of people that he wants to attack. And you had the FCC chair make a blatant threat. But all we're having these conversations about free speech and, you know, comedians are surprised that Trump is doing it. Like, can we look at the other issues? That felt hurtful. Because it is you. Oh, y'all are the posted children for this.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's only you and Andrew. Every time I see it, it's like him, Andrew, Rogan. Like, y'all are the posted children for a, oh, really? Y'all couldn't believe this? You know, I wanted to be a part of the conversation for most of my career. Now that I'm in it, not that great. Not that great. I was doing okay before.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But you know what, though, the funny thing about the conversation is every time people bring it up to me, I'm like, guys, I promise you, they just did not know. I know it sounds crazy. But here's the thing. And I'm not shooting nobody, no bell, but it's just. hilarious, right? People say comedians don't know the stakes of this, so they shouldn't be
Starting point is 00:40:24 talking to the politicians. And then when things like this happen, they're like, y'all should have known better. Which one is it? Like, which one is it? Which one is it? I think their point is we shouldn't have talked to him. No, y'all should have talked to him. Yeah, I would just say, if I have a chance
Starting point is 00:40:40 to talk to a guy, and I literally looked up because I was like, how big of a difference did we make? Polls, when we interviewed him, were too close to call. Trump typically overperforms in the polls. It's probable if we don't talk to me, still wins. But I was like, let's talk to the guy, see if I can get through to him at all.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I don't think I did. Me and Dolly Bishop, the president of Black Effect Night where we spoke on a panel for Axios the other day. And, man, I thought it was a trick question because it was a live audience. The lady was like, would you do an interview with Trump? I'm like,
Starting point is 00:41:12 I don't have no fucking choice. He got to have me in his pocket. What is you mean? What is this? Even without FCC threats, you'd do it. You're a good thing. Oh, yeah, I would. No, I would.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah. Well, I would not. Yeah, I trust you to interview more than most people. Bro, I grew up on fucking Diane Sawyer and Barbara Walters and Oprah Winfrey. They interviewed people who ate folks. Yeah. Jeffrey Dahmer literally ate people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Charlie Manson had a coat when he was killing folks. Of course, I'm going to talk to Donald Trump. Like, absolutely. What are you talking about? Like, she went to Cuban interview for Dale Castro. The people who complain would say, yeah, but those are journalists. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I don't know what that is anymore. Not tone. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that is anymore. Like, what does that mean? I don't know what that means anymore. Because the journalist, the so-called journalists, are the journalists the people that's on cable dudes all the time?
Starting point is 00:42:00 They've been asking pussy-ass questions for the last decade. You know what I'm saying? Are the journalists the people that's in the press room? Because they've been asking pussy-ass questions for the last decade. That's why the best questions... I'm on fire right now. True. That's why the best questions have been coming from the new media
Starting point is 00:42:14 and coming from people who aren't the so-called journalist. So it's like, what's, what's, what's the problem? Damn. It's just the truth. Like, what's the sexiest Charlemagne has ever been? Man, shut the fuck up, man. What happened? I'm too gay for you? No, there's no such thing. We can't. I don't think it's so many people can outgay me. Uh, you haven't hung out with enough white people.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yeah. Yo, tell us about that. Okay, verbally then. Now, verbally, verbally, verbally short. Tell them about the human shots. You know, Mark Dagnon was telling us he took body shots. off of dudes and we were like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:50 So you just drank the shot glass off of their stomach? And he was like, no, you fill their belly button with liquor and then you out gay that. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Shallah. Come on. I've never done that, but that's not gay. What is it straight? Gay would be like using a guy's dick to stir a drink and then sucking the,
Starting point is 00:43:11 like you know, you put the straw in your mouth real quick to lick the lick off. That's just sucking a dick. Yeah. Yeah. What are you saying? I didn't say suck it.
Starting point is 00:43:20 You don't suck the straw. You might do like this and then, you know, put the straw in your mouth. You put your mouth around the straw and then you inhale. So imagine you think sucking a dick you. Imagine using a dick as a straw. That's not sucking a dick. No, you don't suck a straw? You suck straws?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Yes, how did the liquid go through it? Oh, no, I meant the straw used to stir to drink. I don't mean like the- Like a shaker or- Like the straws that aren't suckable. Like a coffee you put sugar in. Yes, that one that's what I'm talking about, the stir. You lick it.
Starting point is 00:43:49 You lick it. That's sucking a dick. No, that's just licking it. Now, what if you were using the dick as a stir? So you use the dick as a stir. Saying that's, yeah, that's... You just licked a little bit of coffee off the dick, but go back to drinking your coffee. You've seen porn, you know, they lick the dick.
Starting point is 00:44:04 That's the beginning. That's just your sucking. Really? Yeah. I don't watch gay porn. I wouldn't know. You know what? Straight porn has dick sucking, too, dude.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Oh, I just... Like what? No, is it, hey, this is why the title is perfect, because this is the smartest guy I know. I know. You're a perfect title. No, I thought you were talking about a gay porn. Back to Chris's point, Chris, what you said is absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And that's what I've been trying to motherfucking say. I just, I felt like this was too safe for the moment because at this moment, it is bigger than Jimmy Kim. So you're saying the stakes were too high to not go fire. Yes, man. You got to go. You can't try to play both sides. You can't try to make everybody feel comfortable here.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And I didn't like the tears. God damn. You know why I didn't like the tears? You thought they were fake? Because he cried when he mentioned Charlie Kirk. Yeah. He didn't cry two weeks ago or a week ago when he got. I think he was crying that people thought he would celebrate the death of.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Like that is what hurt him. It's like, how would you think I'm that kind of guy? Yeah, that's how I was. He should have said that, then. No, no, no, I feel like he should have said that because it felt like he was just trying to do some performative emotion. If he's that good of a prior on command, he should act. I mean, he has that. He was acting for the album.
Starting point is 00:45:25 The man show. The man show wasn't acting, dude. I'm talking about, Jesus Christ. It was acting. No, it wasn't. The man show? It wasn't acting. Oh, you think that's where he was in his life?
Starting point is 00:45:34 That was a talk show. That's just where he was in his mom. But no, he used to do sketches and stuff like that. Yeah. But pretend to be calm alone for God's sake. That was great. And old for him. He should have got an Emmy for that.
Starting point is 00:45:44 That didn't bother me, none. But my point is, I felt like when he was getting emotional He was doing that to show like the other side, hey, I do care. You know, and then he did like the apology, not an apology. You thought he said, I'm sorry. That's how the tone sounds. Yeah, the tone felt apologetic. But he never said, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I don't mind it, man. Like, because if you go hard, if you go hard, everybody goes hard. Like, when is it ever going to stop? I understand your point. Stephen Colbert rose to the moment. And I like Jimmy, but I just feel like. All they just said was fuck Trump. No, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:46:18 They spoke to the. environment that we're currently in in regards to democracy. I understand his point. His point is a lot of eyeballs are on you right now. You could really make the point because this has become larger than us. This has become an attack on free speech. This has become an attack on our Constitution. You can say something like that.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Yes. Gotcha. Okay. That's all. I understand your point. I'll concede. That's a good point. That's all.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah. No, and then hopefully he hears this or he decides he goes back. We got our show. Now tomorrow we're going to drop this online. and it's going to be a crazy monologue, let's go. I got my sorrow out of the way. I got my apology out of the way. Empathies out there.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Let's go now. And maybe because Trump threw another jab. Trump came again, you know? Yeah, Trump was like basically like. He's upset. Yeah. How could they bring them back? We sued him for $16 million last time.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Let's see what we can get this time. Yeah. Trump came right back with it. He said they told me he was getting fired. Like he puts himself in it. He kind of admits that he had something to do it. Yes. Trump threatens to sue ABC.
Starting point is 00:47:18 What's the headline, Chris? Trump turns to Sue A.B.C. Over Jimmy Kimmel's sudden return to air, a true bunch of losers. He is funny, dude. Bad president, good president. He's funny. He is, oh, no. Where's the tweet at?
Starting point is 00:47:35 Probably got to scroll up. Last time, oh, hold on. I'll look it up if I can find it. He's yet another arm. Yeah, he has yet another arm of the DNC. And to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major illegal campaign contribution. I think we're going to test ABC out on this. Let's see how we do.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Wow. They are moving like some mobsters, like some gangsters, really. Yeah, last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million. This one sounds even more lucrative, with a true bunch of losers. Now, you know what? To your point, Akash, he did tweet this later on in the evening, and I know they do, they tape in the afternoon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So he did this monologue before this. So, yeah, tonight we might get, you know, what I'm looking for right now. And this is what I'm looking for right now is just for him to just, you know, stand up for democracy. Like, you know, there's no need to play it safe at a time like this. Especially when you still might get your head cut off. That's true.
Starting point is 00:48:26 There's so much hypocrisy here, but the one that really kills me is when Trump tries to make this about ratings, right? Like, Republicans historically have been the party hands-off government, right? Like, Democrats over-regulate, over-government, everything.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Like, we got to step back and let the free market cook and do what it does. Now he gives a fuck about rating, now this guy should go because of the fucking ratings. Now they're that much in the weeds of the success of a fucking TV network. It's such blatant bullshit. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:48:58 You know another hypocrisy I've noticed. You guys heard the H-1B visa thing. They're going to charge $100,000 for H-1B visas. Yeah, I don't understand that. What is it? Now, they've walked some of it back. But the initial thing is an H-1B visa higher, you had to pay $100,000 a year. Maybe for each hire initially.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And then they've walked it back to something else. Either way, a lot of people just hearing that you're going to charge for H-1B visa people and keep them out of America. A lot of conservatives were very happy about this. America is for Americans, blah, blah, blah. You are supporting DEI. When you say,
Starting point is 00:49:28 bring it down. Hey, you know what to H-1B visa is? It's the most qualified person you can find to do the job. So bring him to America and let him do the job. When you say, I don't want these engineers coming for India, from India and taking our jobs, what you were saying is I want diversity in engineering. I want equity in engineering.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And I, as a white person, want inclusion in engineer or medicine or whatever other field. You want DEI, you just want it for you. Y'all are the same on both sides. It drives me insane that you don't see that. How you not want the smartest people in the world coming to America. Isn't that what capitalism is? Isn't that what a free market is?
Starting point is 00:50:06 Isn't that what giving the best and brightest the best positions is? Now suddenly you're not okay with it because you're not getting the jobs? Yeah. DEI. Y'all some cucks. Yeah, some cucks. Where do we go from here, man? I say bringing more Indians.
Starting point is 00:50:23 That's my general solution. And Taiwanese. And Taiwanese. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We need Taiwanese engineers an Indian. That's the answer. I actually believe majority of white people in positions of power wouldn't have any problem with that as long as they can control you.
Starting point is 00:50:41 They are, actually. They do control you. You're on a visa. That's what I mean. But they want, they want, like, ultimate control. As long as they can control you and you work for them, they have no problem with it. Maybe people in power. I don't think people in power were super felt one way or the other by the H-1BVs a thing.
Starting point is 00:50:58 It's a lot of people on Twitter who could be bots. That's another thing. How much of what we're reacting to is, myself included, is bots. Man, when you, when y'all realize how deep the bot game is, you will really stop camera. I'm finally starting until, I heard 62% or something like this. It's unbelievable. Like there was articles about this shit three. years ago, Chris, how long we've been on this shit? Like, we know, Ben, know this shit was bots.
Starting point is 00:51:20 The YouTube videos, people are creating our AI generated. Like, this shit is not real. Like, they don't really, I don't even think the world is as, this might sound crazy to something. I don't think the world is as divided as people make it. No, I don't think that's, on social media. I agree. You're quite possibly right. I really don't believe that. When I saw that 62% thing, that was the first time my mind was like, oh, maybe it really is that many bots. And then I, you know, I still forget and whatever, but like, you might be right. Maybe we'll finally wrap our minds around the idea that so much of this is fake and the real life is out there. In real life, we're not super divided.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And you'll see, you'll really see it when you hang out around a lot of artists. Because some artists get so much shit online. Like I use Big Cardi, for example, they get so much shit online that they sometimes forget how much people love them in the real world. You know what I'm saying? And then they put out an album and it goes number one. And then they go do shows in the arena is packing. And they're like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, because this shit on social. media is some bullshit. Yes, people hire bots. They create these campaigns just to motherfucking attack you. Yeah, I don't know anyone who dislikes party. Really? National Treasure, dude. I mean, you, okay. If you're funny, you're going to get forgiveness and for us. That's part of what gave Trump so much grace for the eight years. I ain't seen nobody chuckling in a minute. That motherfucker ain't said no shit. He stopped being funny. It's the problem. Yeah, he kind of fell off. No, he kind of fell off. No, he ain't said nothing that slapped in a minute. No, I know. I don't.
Starting point is 00:52:46 a little bit, that true bunch of losers. And if he kept doing that, you'd probably have him on again. No, you wouldn't. That's a great question, Akash. Yeah. Would y'all interview Trump again off? I would interview Trump in a fucking second. You got to.
Starting point is 00:52:58 In a fucking second. Would you handle it differently? Yeah. Now, my thought process at the time was I want to get to certain questions about the rhetoric. That was the main thing I wanted to ask. But I knew I needed to kind of like make him comfortable and let him feel like he wasn't being attacked.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Now the vibe would be a little different because he already knows what we've said at this point. So like, I'd still try to be as civil as a level. I could because in my mind, if I get him to get up and walk out, that would look great for me personally, but it would be a clout chasy thing to do. Like, it wouldn't lead to anything. It would just be me having a moment where I kind of dunk on him and then everybody on the left is like, look at this. You want to conversation. I want to have a conversation. Let's actually try to do something productive. Let's endeavor. I love that word. That's what Schultz says about Mamdani. He's endeavoring
Starting point is 00:53:40 to make New York better. I want to endeavor to have a productive conversation. We probably can't. Almost certain we can't. I'm going to try. I have a I have a whole strategy to interview Trump. What's your strategy? I don't want to say. I would love to another strategy. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Can you? What did I say? I don't understand. Come on, straighten this conversation. Come on, come on. I don't know. I mean, I think when you sit down to interview somebody, there's a basic understanding or acceptance of the That's called the terms of the union.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Some people aren't always going to tell the whole truth, but they're going to, if presented with facts or certain truth, they're going to respond to it. Like, you could say anything to Trump. You could trap him and catch him in a million corners and a hundred lies. Directly, you know, showing quotes that directly contradict something he said. Five seconds previous, it doesn't fucking matter. There's a way to do it.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He's not going to cope to any of it. There's a way to do it. And I don't care. I might as well say, because I don't think I'll ever have the opportunity. You got to use. the mirror effect on him. Not in the way that Gavin Newsom is doing. You literally have to play his own words to him. Don't say them to him. Don't say you said this because he'll just say you lie. Play it. So your viewing audience and the people that are listening can watch his
Starting point is 00:55:04 reaction to his own words. Let's see what we get from that. You do that one time he realizes what type of interview this is. He's out of it. I don't care. I don't care. I That's why you make sure that the first couple of things are your doosies, like your joints, like the ones that you, the method you want. You come out with bombs. You can't come out with jazz. That's right. That's right. I also think he would just bounce off of him.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I don't think, I don't think this is as wrong as you think it is. Yeah, no. Like we, I don't know. We call them out for not being truthful. He's like, yeah, I'm sometimes truthful. No, no, no. But you got to be specific and show his own words to him. You said this about free speech back then.
Starting point is 00:55:44 What changed? Like, show him. Like, show him his words and let him react to himself. Because we're always reacting to him. Yeah. When has Trump ever had to react to Trump? It's a unique, it's a unique strategy, for sure. I've never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Somebody said, I forgot what I was listening to it. Screeze would be popping if you did that. The screams would be crazy on that one, right? Listen, but I don't know if it was Rogan I was watching or, um, John Stewart, but I forgot who he was talking to. And he was just saying he used the term. You might know the term, Chris. I think I text you when I saw this.
Starting point is 00:56:24 But he was saying how he believes, he truly believes Trump believes everything that's coming out of his mouth. Right. I forgot it's a term for it, though. It was based off somebody like an old politician or old celebrity. I can't remember what it was. But he was saying he believes that when Trump talks, he actually believes the things that are coming out of his mouth.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So if so, show him what he said. Don't tell him. Show him. He's looking at himself. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he believes everything that comes up. I think he's like, hey, what do I need to say this speech? Okay, I'm going to say that this time.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And then once that's gone, it's a whole new place. I think it's just about winning. I just got to win what makes me win. I'll figure out the rest later. Yeah. I just Googled what do you call someone who believes their own lives, trying to figure out the term. A pathological liar.
Starting point is 00:57:16 That's kind of what I thought it might be. There it is. I was telling you all earlier before the show started, man, there is no such thing as a liar anymore. And I always said nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining. But people really don't care no more about it. People will get on platforms and say bold-faced lies.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And not just say them like, hey, this is what I believe. will say it and say, like, for example, I'm the chairman of revolt, right? And then when revolt disputes it, double and triple down and say, tell me, yo, I see some shit. The day he said, Dame Das said, why can't Lauren tell me who said it? I'm the chairman. I can fire him. She still hasn't FaceTime me. I could have showed her all the proof, but she didn't want it. So I was like, well, who said that?
Starting point is 00:58:10 you know, I'm the chairman now. I'll fire them. She wouldn't tell me who. I'm like, oh, my God. What do we even deal? This shit came out to date. But the day where we're taping it out. I'm like, what do we even do it?
Starting point is 00:58:24 So when we've gotten to this point, nothing matters. Akasha? Yeah, you pick your own reality. I saw the reaction to your, and obviously we're biased toward you, but the reaction to your stuff, people were like, damn, really telling Charlemann. It's like, he's not telling him anything. He's not answering anything. Well, no, it depends.
Starting point is 00:58:40 If you watch the whole thing in full, you have a different perspective. I did. Actually, by the end, I was like, oh, I think they actually like each other. Whereas before it seemed very confrontational. But at the end, I was like, oh, I think I couldn't get away with saying this stuff about Dane because I think Dame has a level of respect for Charlemagne. I don't dislike Dame in no way, shit. Yeah, I don't think, and I don't think Charlene dislikes Dame.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I was like, oh, I think they actually have, like, a friendly thing. I don't know, I don't know him outside of him coming to Breakfast Club. We might have spoke, like, one time outside of Breakfast Club. I don't know him outside of him coming to Breakfast Club. But I enjoy that. Yeah. That's fun. It's very fun.
Starting point is 00:59:12 It's very fun to watch. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's fun. But it has to be fun with a level of honesty. Like when you just up here fucking with people's realities, it's like, come on. But that's the world we live in. Nobody cares anymore. And that's why that's something somebody like Trump is mastered.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Historically, politicians have mastered that, period. But now we live in an era where there's no curtain no more. So everybody. can peel back layers. Everybody can have an opinion about things. So it's very hard to keep up the lie. That's the people we should actually be very, very like, wow, that's impressive, bro. That you can keep that lie up in 2025 under all this scrutiny.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You know what I'm saying? When you're bombarded with all this scrutiny and people calling you out on your shit and saying that you're lying and you're like, no, it's not me as y'all. If you can keep- God damn. You can keep a scraed face under all that scrutiny? You can hear it. That's impressive. That's impressive, dude.
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Starting point is 01:01:11 The generational triumph tour, we're in theaters now. We got a bunch of big announcements on there. We already all sold out one show in Toronto in like three hours. That's fired. Love you guys. Dallas, get your shit together. Y'all keep telling me to come back to my hometown. Y'all are like the fourth city in pre-sale.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Number four. Take it up. Use the promo code Akash for early access, depending on when this comes out. Dallas, y'all are the Eric Adams of Akash ticket sales right now because he is fourth in polling in New York. Really? He's number four. Yes, he's fourth in Poland in New York. He's behind my guy Eric Seva?
Starting point is 01:01:41 Nah, I guess he's, I guess. I'm thinking we'd be third. No, he's fourth. I read it this morning. It was in the New York Post. No, no, actually it was in the New York Times in the article about how the number of police misconduct cases is surged under Eric Adams. And they said he's fourth and poor. I was like, oh, that's just a feeling.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I'm like, yeah. I'm like, you're fourth in polling. Why do you think you can still win? But yeah, he's number four right now. But listen, my church announcement is Saturday, October 11th from 11 a.m. From 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. my fifth annual mental wealth expo is happening at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey. It is a day of mental health education and healing,
Starting point is 01:02:17 man, some of the best mental health professionals in the country, Debbie Brown, Dr. Alfie Breland Noble, Elliot Connie, Dr. J. Barnett, oh, man, Corey Minas Smith is going to be there. It's a lot. We got some athletes that we're going to be announcing in the next couple of days and, you know, just some other, I guess, celebrity type, you would call it, right? Jay Shetty coming to this one? I want Jay, man. That one to come through. Our schedules never line up because you got to.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Fine ass. That motherfucker is handsome. I saw him. Oh, yeah. Again, I got a better look this time. Where you was at now? He was at the Mue Mew store. My wife was there spending money.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And why you didn't say hi? Because I talk shit about it. My wife said hi. I was like, hi. I was like, Jay. That's the problem. No. I really like it.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Because Jay is a nice guy. Jay is a great fucking guy. Not a monk. I would say this to his face. He never said he was. The book is called Think Like a Monk. Think. Think, Akash.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Think like a monk. How would he know? Same way Steve Harvey can say, act like a lady, think like a man. Oh, is it? Think like a man, act like a lady. Which one is it? He's a man. So he knows how a man thinks.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Act like a lady. He wouldn't say think like a lady because he doesn't know how women think. So who's he telling to act like a lady? He's telling ladies. He's how men think. Now, you know, he might be progressive. How do you know he's telling ladies? I have a feeling he's not that progressive.
Starting point is 01:03:38 All I'm simply saying it. But I don't remember. All I know is Jay Shetty is a great guy and you actually like him. And you need to stop. I would love to like him. You need to stop acting like him. He just stopped pretending you're a monk and we'll be friends. He's not.
Starting point is 01:03:49 He's never straight. He's a monk. His eyes, dude. I'm not even saying his eyes are so much prettier than mine. Oh. It's like just shits on me. Boy band. Oh, boy band.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Oh. God. Leader of a boy man. Oh. That's wild. Has there ever been an Indian boy band? Yes. Zane Mullick, fine-ass Zane Mollock.
Starting point is 01:04:06 That motherfucker was fine, dude. Yeah, he was stepping up for all of us. Damn, do me a side-by-side real quick, man. Let me see Zane and J. Let me see. No, because I didn't know Zane was Z-N-N-N-N-you-ha-N-old. Yeah, he just thought. He's half-Bakistan.
Starting point is 01:04:20 No, I'm just trying to figure out who's the finest Indian man. Z-A-Y-N. I never thought about this. Zane versus J-Shed. But that's not a good picture right there. You got to go to old-school Zane. Yeah, New-N-N. Okay. He's Indian?
Starting point is 01:04:36 Half Indy. Half Pakistani. Motherfucker, he's gorgeous. What's the other half? I think white. That's why him and Gigi worked. Okay, Jay got it then. Jay the man. Jay got it. I mean, it's crazy. Because Jay, what's Jay? What is Jay?
Starting point is 01:04:52 Jay's full. Oh, he got it. English Indian. They're the more Indians and Indian Indians. He got it. He got it. He got it. But the moral of the story is Jay Shetty is a great guy, yo. I've had a lot of conversations with Jay. Dude, anybody On-air, off-air.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Big Ups has to be very authentic and real. You know I love Jaden Smith. That's my, come on. Jay-Dah. That's the, oh, he said Jada. I love Jada too. Oh, that's right. You love the Smith.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Oh, Pinkett Smith went for a nose card. What are y'all talking about? You're the great people. You know the problem with that folks be having? They've never met these individuals. You've never spent time with him. You've never kicked him with them. Look, dude, dude, I'm telling you, I'm sure he's a nice guy.
Starting point is 01:05:26 So why didn't you walk him at the La-Boooo-Boo-Boo store? What was it? Did you say you was that? Why didn't you go say what's up to Jay Shed? Because I talk shit. It would be phony. This is something I learned from you. You can't talk shit and be nice.
Starting point is 01:05:40 But what if you're tired of talking shit? What if you really just want to talk? Then I'll say, man, I'm tired of talking shit. But I ain't never tired of talking shit. He's the thing, Charlemagne. I don't get tired of it. Jay's never said he was a monk, though. He said he went to.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Oh, my fucking goodness. Are you kidding me? He said he went there for a spell. Spell. Spel. I mean, a spell like a period of time. He visited. I visited a monastery.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I visited a hospital. I'm not a doctor. No, he was there. If I were a book called Think Like a Doctor and was like, yeah, I spent some time at a hospital. Okay, let me ask you a question. Is he not good at what he does? Has Jay not helped people? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Yes. I know people that live by Jay. I've gotten inspiration from Jay. What did you learn from Jay? A lot of different things. That sounds specific. That's not very specific. But I'm different.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I've read Jay's books. I've listened to his podcast. I think that I think Jay is one of the best in the mental health space. Okay, but what am I saying here that you disagree with? Nothing, but that's hate. That is hate. That's hate. That's hate.
Starting point is 01:06:44 That's hate. That's what I've been saying. That's hate. Hate on Jay Shetty. They're mad that Jay Shetty is Jay Shetty. This is hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. There's a Trump supporter for Jay Shetty. You are Trump supporter for Jay Shetty.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I judge people off their energy. And I judge people all. That's the most bullshit Jay's got great energy. Y'all don't care what y'all say. He's got great energy and he, I really believe. You know who else had great energy? Who?
Starting point is 01:07:12 Donnie T. No, never. How you know. You're right. You're right. Alex. Okay. He don't want to answer because he don't want to look like to chill out.
Starting point is 01:07:20 So Jay Shetty may have lied about the monk stuff. He didn't lie. No reason for you to not like him. He didn't lie though. Yes, you do. He is a phony. I've said this the whole time. He's not phony.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I don't understand what's happening here He's not phony He actually was in the school In what school This Christian consciousness Whatever the fuck this shit is man Okay He did not
Starting point is 01:07:45 That's the thing he was not Also there's no monk school Nope It's crazy Y'all just gotta hug it out That's it I have no problem You like him
Starting point is 01:07:54 You really do I would just tell him you are a fault Akash I feel That you too Are a good judge of energy Your energy wants you to speak to Jay Shetty,
Starting point is 01:08:04 but your ego is saying, I can't speak to Jay Shetty because I shitted on Jay Shetty, but you actually are intrigued by Jay Shetty. You want to get to know him. You want to be his friend. You're lying. You see yourself in him just a little bit.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I'm lying. And your wife probably loves him. No, we both talked about how hot he was. There's no problem. We aren't insecure about these things. We talk about hot people. We both were like, yeah, he's hot. She shit on him before I did publicly.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And that's why I was like, why you got so on her on her TikTok. It's like you want me to Oh, yeah, you got to keep her honest. You got to keep her honest. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm like, you can't do that. You can't talk shit.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And then, hi, you can't do it. You can't do it. That's Jay Shetty, though. Okay? Always remember, Ocashton, the most powerful prison is the one our mind creates. Would you get that off the phone? You know who said that? Jay Shetty, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:53 We must keep the promises we make to ourselves so we can trust the promises we make to others. What does that even mean? A lot of those quotes. We're stolen. Yo, who cares? Who cares? Thank you. We don't do those same quotes.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Thank you. Thank you. Everybody steals cuts. I'm right all the fucking time. Y'all post Drake lyrics all the time and act like y'all. You know how often I'm right. And just because Charlotte is louder than me and Andrews louder than me, y'all don't know how right I am all the fucking time.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I'm right all the fucking two. Y'all post Will Smith quotes. Y'all post three quotes. Y'all post Gandhi. Y'all don't give the credit. Who's y'all? Gandhi. I post Gandhi quotes without getting credit.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Shout out to Jay Shetty, Joe. I got your back, Jay. Okay, Jay is a great guy. I will say, I saw a Jay Shetty speech that was actually beautiful. He said he has a dream that one day young black kids. He had that speech. He had another beautiful speech. It was about a ballot or a bullet.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It was a beautiful speech. I don't know if you heard that one. Listen, man. What is this? What else we got? It's the Koch guy, man. People like your handshake with, Leo.
Starting point is 01:10:01 They liked my handshake with Leo? Yeah. Bro, the bars in hell, bro. Like, we, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a thing. It's the phone news where it was. Yeah. Was that Tiana?
Starting point is 01:10:14 Yeah, you fast for it. I had a screen in the other day for, uh, one, one battle, one, one battle after another, which is a new action. You know, it's a comedy. Yeah. It's the action comedy. You had to read the title on it. I couldn't remember what the title was.
Starting point is 01:10:31 He has one battle after another. And so... He held a screamer's in his movie. A streaming. He of the screenings. Didn't even know what the fucking... No, I didn't know what the movie was called. Crazy people.
Starting point is 01:10:45 You know, I went to a screening. It was for one... No, one... One time and time again. Warner Brothers... One struggle after the next. That one struggle. No, Warner Brothers and their PR team hit me up and they wanted to have a screening for one battle after another.
Starting point is 01:11:04 I love doing screenings because, number one, you know, you get to get all of these people in for free to watch a movie. That's always a beautiful thing. And this was great because the cast had no idea. I mean, the audience had no idea I was going to surprise them with the cast. Oh, that's fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I came out just to say what's up and I was just talking to them about, you know, how we watch trailers for movies and try to figure out what the movie is. But nothing gives you better context than actually talking to the cast.
Starting point is 01:11:28 passed. Ooh. And then they came out. Like Chase, Chase was there, which is this our first movie. Tiana was there. Leonardo DiCaprio.
Starting point is 01:11:35 The writer-director Paul was there. Yeah. It was dope. So funny. Why didn't it? It was just a regular handshake. They said he went in for the third death. You gave him the third dab and he knew to,
Starting point is 01:11:47 let's see if we can find the phone. Oh, it's in the beginning. Yeah. Leo is down, dude, Leo's like, homies with Q-tip and just hanging out.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Dude, there's a podcast where Leo's just hanging out with Q-tip and they decided to do a podcast with Chris Rock I think Dave Chappelle. Leo's a crazy. I don't... That's Chase. One, two, three. Oh.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just expect everybody to know that. I'm gonna be, you know what? I've realized growing up now, getting older, it'd be more black people who don't go for the third that... Really?
Starting point is 01:12:19 Yeah, maybe because I'm getting older so the young boys just be trying to give me handshakes. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't the... And I'm realizing, I guess it's... It's a lot more, I do a lot more pounds, and a lot of people are doing a lot more pounds now, I guess since COVID. Yeah. It's become the easiest way to do it.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Pop, pop, pop, pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The third Dap is rare, though. That's love. I feel like now people kind of just do the clap and then the hug. It's not. Oh, yeah, the hub. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I love a clapping hug. I like the clapping hug. I like the clapping hug. I like the clapping hug. But there is something about that third day. That is powerful. That's nostalgia. That means we're like, we're exchanging energy.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that third dip. I love that. That's like that. That's like I respect you. Can we play this? It does matter. Kanye West yelling at Chris Jenner. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:13:03 My wife keeps trying to get me to care about this. I haven't watched it. I keep hearing about it. The one from the family has taken any responsibility for my hospital visit. But if we want to go on mind of what people say that least, or maybe on my line. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You just said, you know.
Starting point is 01:13:27 I haven't finished the sickness. And you, it doesn't matter what the internet says. It matters what we think, yay. So what do you think? Did you have an effect on my mental health? Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I'm saying yes. And I love you. I watch these videos like this, man, and I think to myself... What's the context for that, by the way? I have no idea. This is a documentary. I'm pretty sure Kanye West is releasing, which is the crazy part. Oh, he's putting this up?
Starting point is 01:13:58 I'm pretty sure Kanye is releasing this documentary. I might need to double-check that. I thought Michael Che played a role in this in consequence. Am I making this up? Yeah, Michael Chey kind of, it makes him look great. Consequence says this is not a full edit. Well, that's what Kanye put out. Che is saying it, and he says it would love.
Starting point is 01:14:13 He's like checking Kanye for shitting on SNL's black members like at the end of the show. And he's like, why would you do that? Oh, so that's a different video. I think that's a different video, but that's the same documentary, I think. The crazy thing is I'm going to watch. Yeah, I'm definitely going to watch. I'm going to watch, but I watch these videos of kind of, okay, this is the Michael Chee one. Let me see this.
Starting point is 01:14:37 I don't have a chance to say anything for myself. No, I went to call and I said that is not blessed to be coming back. I'm the black community that's fucking what you do that to me. Oh, man, I love you, though, bro. I was talking about you too. I'm a fan. Why don't you do that? I was like a kid.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I work here. Like, come on, man. Like, we treat everybody that come in like family and you're going to sell us out. Like, that's fucked up, man. We look out to you. We love you. Wow. What you got against us?
Starting point is 01:15:09 I mean, I do have some things against us now. That's cool, but I mean, Aaron and I'm like that without letting us be able to reply this kind of foul. You wait to the last song and then say that foul shit to us. And we brought one here for... But I'm not cool, though. You know what I'm a good idea? I get it. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:32 No, you're a hero to us. Now, we love you. Like, seriously, we love you. That's like, that's... That's wrong to do that. This is an interesting contrast, though, to see him yelling at Chris Jenner crazy, but he's super humble and Michael Chase on him like that. I don't even know what the context of this is.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Like, I don't even know what the fuck did he say that, what did he say that got Michael Cheight? I don't know. I guess he insulted the black cast members of SNL. He might just say some shit about, oh, and I guess judging by Chase's context clues. He said something about the black comedians who made jokes about Cosby, and Che was a black comedian who made jokes about Cosby on SNL. Kanye got very quiet.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Where is Kanye? I fall in apart, dude. He's his boy working on this documentary that makes him look horrible. This is, I never seen... Hopefully he's taking the time to get his mental health. His mental health is fucked, man. I don't think he's healing, but I don't think he understands this guy's fully falling apart. If he's quiet, that's probably a good thing.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Maybe. Let's, uh, let's pay some bills and then do some asking idiots and get the fuck out of here. Let's do some asking idiots. because of gosh got a flight to catch and I'm going to a play tonight. Oh, what play? Tonight I'm going to see the outsiders. Really? Are you a big Broadway guy?
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah, I was at Broadway last night too. I took my daughter's birthday was recently, so I took her and my other daughter to go see the play starring all your cousins. You know a play on Broadway stars off. I don't. A lot of...
Starting point is 01:17:17 I'm gonna tell you something. Not a lot of representation. I didn't like that. I agree. I didn't like that. I agree. There was not a lot. There was a lot of white people in Aladdin.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yeah. You mean... It was good, though. The cast. The cast. The genius is actually... Oh, fantastic. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Man, that brother was so good. What was his name? He's this... I mean, he steals the show, but I mean, that's actually his job. That's what he talks about. See if I can find his name. He's great. I went and saw it.
Starting point is 01:17:43 You saw it? Yeah, you have to do that when you apply for an Indian visa. That's the test. His name is Michael James Scott. Yes, Michael James Scott. Man, he is famous. Incredible. I mean, he's-star of the show.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Star of the show. Not even close. And he's actually got a line when he comes out where he actually says that. He's like, you know, I can't remember what the exact line is. But he basically let everybody know, I'm the show stealer. And he absolutely does. Like he, I don't want to say carries. but he's definitely the spark.
Starting point is 01:18:12 He's the only thing I remember from that show. He's definitely the spark. I forgot there was white people because the black guy stole the show so much. But no, I thought... That is what y'all do. I thought about it after the fact. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:20 The girl that played Japanese was good, though. Stealing in general. Shut up, man. I was like, which way you went without? I just want to make sure that you didn't think. I know they could be interpreted in many ways. You see, though? You see how we make nice, racist jokes towards each other?
Starting point is 01:18:35 I love. I love this man. But, you know, the only time it'll fuck it up is when you people from the... outside, tune in and be like, did you say that? Totally bypassing all the racist jokes I threw that. You know what I'm saying? Because I let y'all think of the punchline because y'all are the racist.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I said steal the show. I didn't say anything else. Well, other people can interpret it however they want to. Oh, there was an article about it? Yeah, it's from 2020, though, so I don't know if it's the same thing. What did it say? What was the headline? Not enough Indian actors.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Yeah, Aladdin is not white. Huh? Oh, wow. Well, Aladdin's technically not an Indian thing, but yeah, I'll take it. We'll take it. Middle Eastern? Yeah, I think it's. I went to Morocco with Dove, actually, and I was like,
Starting point is 01:19:11 this feels like what Aladdin was trying to, like, replicate to me. Damn. All right, let's do some asking idiots, man. Any advice are tips on being a girl dad, especially with what's going on with the world today? This is your answer, dude, because I don't have a daughter, so. I underscore B underscore that underscore jiggy, man. I just give you the advice that my mom gave me, which is simply love your kids, man. And I am at the point in my life where I refuse to stress.
Starting point is 01:19:39 about anything concerning my children because it's out of my control. And you know what made me feel like that, Chris? What? Her driving. Oh, my God. Oh, he's driving. It's the one advantage of raising kids in New York City. We got in a car.
Starting point is 01:19:59 It's like I'll go crazy. If I don't learn to let go, and I think it's good for me, because, you know, this is our senior year, so she's visiting colleges. She's going off to go to school. If I don't learn to let go now, I'm going to drive myself crazy. Does she want to go to college in Jersey or somewhere else? Oh, no, she definitely, she wants to beat ourselves.
Starting point is 01:20:21 How big, in choosing the car, I'm assuming you could have gotten any car. How big was, like, safety features, like how big of that factor into it? She knew exactly what she wanted. Okay. Got her exactly what she wanted. Oh, you got her exactly what she wanted.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Yeah. Got her exactly what she wanted. It's not mean, yeah, it's a nice, cool car. It's not crazy expensive. No, no, okay. That's nothing crazy expensive. But it's just like, you know, the thoughts that can go through your mind from driving, right? Like, you think about everything from accidents to run-ins with the police to guys trailer.
Starting point is 01:20:54 You think about all of this shit. I'm like, if I don't let this shit go, this is, this is God's way of testing me and saying, I'm giving you this little lesson and freedom to allow her to be. be free. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just, you know what? It's like, it's like you're slowly easing into, okay, drive around. You're responsible. She's not like out all the time, you know. Can I ask what school she's looking at? I'm curious. HBCUs? One, one. Are you rooting for that one? I wouldn't mind it. I have, I have different reasons for why I want her to go to different places. A lot of it is accessibility. Like,
Starting point is 01:21:37 Chris, I don't know how you fucking even sitting in here without pulling your head. I mean, I've been on my phone this whole episode. You see what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I need to be able to get there or have somebody get to her fast.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Oh, yeah, yeah. So, you know, I got my picks, but she does have one of the HBC on her list without which I wouldn't bind because of her upbringing in Jersey, right? Her upbringing in Jersey hasn't been the most diverse. But you got money.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah, but it's not, I mean, but that's the great point, but it is a class thing. It's not like, I'm lying. It has been diverse because it's not just white. It's white, black, it's Indians, it's Asians. Like, it's a class thing. So it is like, it is a very diverse experience.
Starting point is 01:22:20 You take her with you to Newark? No, never took her with her. That's foul, dude. Never took her with me. How you can get her to experience the world? What's your, with cars? What's your take on your kids and Uber's? Can't do it, bro.
Starting point is 01:22:34 What? Why? To me, that's the safety. I feel the same way. I put my kids in Uber's all the time. My wife is a little... Well, I'm missing it. What's going on here?
Starting point is 01:22:44 I don't think there is anything. The Uber could be like a sexual deviant or something. Yes. But I'm like, you're tracking it. You can watch if you really want to. That's true, but if you got a nut job... And I was thinking about this the other day. Tell me what y'all think about this.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Our whole society is built on trust. Yeah. Like, we don't think about that, but it's like getting on a plane. You're getting on a plane. Yeah, yeah. You got to trust the pilot to be in their right mind. You got to trust the Uber driver to be in the right mind. You got to trust the person making your food to not be in a right mind and not poison you.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Our whole shit is built on trust. And I've been doing this to like lessen my anxiety about things. When you look at the world and this whole totality like that, our bad and average is pretty good. Yeah, we're good. Oh, that's a great point. It is. Beautiful perspective. We tend to look at the worst of everything and be like, oh, the world is so fucked up.
Starting point is 01:23:29 But if you really think about how we interact with each other every single day and don't fuck over each other. We're peaceful as fuck. We are pretty are We're a pretty civilized society For the most part I love that For the most part But I don't know man
Starting point is 01:23:44 So I buy advice to you The main reason I can't give you no advice I'll be that jiggy Is because I'm just I'm so much I'm so learning this shit bro I'm so figuring this shit out I don't know if you ever truly figure this shit out All you can for being a girl dad
Starting point is 01:23:58 Yes communicate And then prepare yourself for what you get And you have to take it You got to accept it He's like, you're going to hear things. No conversations for a mom. I've heard things I didn't want to hear.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I know things I don't want to know. But you know. But I know. That's important. There's probably like 2% that I don't know, but I know 98%. And she trusts you. You made a save for her to tell you. Mike, you know, I don't want to put my kids' business out there.
Starting point is 01:24:25 But they've called me in situations where if I called my dad and said, this is what's going on, he would have helped me. But he would have smacked me around first. He would have beat me up. He would have ground. You know, like, there have been, like, real. And I'm like, all right, think about what happened. Next time, maybe make, you know, like, I'm down with everything not sex related.
Starting point is 01:24:45 No, you have to be. No, I don't. You do. You know what I'm saying? No, I think I agree with Chris until he says it out loud. And then I'm like, that sounds crazy. I can tell you guys. You know what I'm saying? It starts to sound crazy. Crazy. It sounds crazy. Crazy. Sounds crazy. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:25:04 DJ Mike Torch underscore Without seeing names What's your biggest I told you so moment Akash I was arguing with a friend of mine About Jay Shetty I said I don't hate the guy He's just a fucking fraud
Starting point is 01:25:18 And it is what he's not a fraud man Why do you keep calling Jay Shetty a fraud? I had too big I told you so moments We also I've been saying robots are going to kill us For 10 years Everybody's been laughing at me
Starting point is 01:25:29 We had this guy come on the pot today I'm flagrant And he's like yeah No they're gonna kill us It's inevitable Oh I'm reading my, oh, man, damn, I don't have it on me. One of my favorite books to read right now,
Starting point is 01:25:40 I just read it's called How Technofutalism Killed Capitalism. And everybody's worried about Democrats, Republicans. You know, better worry about the Technocrat. Yup. Okay, this shit, this shit is about the, this shit is not going to be a game. And I'm not talking about 2016. I'm talking about 2030, 2035. We're going to miss arguing about Trump.
Starting point is 01:26:02 We're going to miss this. You're going to miss arguing about Democrat Republican. Like, this shit is no joke. Like, we talk about class systems. Y'all got to read this book. But when you talk about class systems, like, there's going to be so many different underclasses. And the underclasses, the robots are going to take over so much that they're just going to have humans doing shit for the sake of doing shit. And it's not, they're not even going to be getting paid in money.
Starting point is 01:26:31 They're going to be getting paid in, like, credits. Meaning like you, oh, you need to go to the doctor, you need health insurance, you got to put in a certain amount of hours to get your health insurance. That's a better system than we have now. Yeah, I know. I'll take it. You need food. You got to go put in a certain amount of hours to get your food. But it's like meaningless work.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Yeah. It's not even anything that actually makes the world go around. They're just-go pick up trash for three hours. Just to give you something to do because the robots are going to be completely running the shit. Read that book. Techno. It's called how techno-feudalism killed capitalism. Who's the author?
Starting point is 01:27:05 Sounds against. And he wrote it really good, too, because he wrote it like he's writing to his father. No, no. It's not a, it's not a tough real... Al really scoffs at this whole thing. Yeah, because it's like, it's whatever. Why are you going to worry about it?
Starting point is 01:27:15 Just live life, enjoy life. That's it. Just be positive. Just play it back into the kid thing again. How you care about politics and then have this on a much more existential threat? Where the fuck is... Politics is to hear it now.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Oh, yeah. It's called techno feudalism. What Killed Capitalism by Janus. Varafakis. I know I probably fucked his last man but the book is great. The DVR 94 says
Starting point is 01:27:42 How gay would you get to save your family? Alex looking like he's saving him every day. Damn. Al. You dress like me today. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:27:53 I'm dressed like I don't know. Yeah, you look exactly like your arm. With some cargoes in a sweatshirt? Yeah, yeah. The pants are. The new balance? We look exactly alike. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:01 So welcome. Welcome to the team. This ain't gay? This is Alex's most heterosexual outfit in Munster. Oh, really? I said that to him. I've been complimenting him. I love this outfit because it's not as wildly gay as he normally.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Most heterosexual outfit in months is hilarious. What makes it so heteral? It's just not, he's not doing too much. His nails aren't done. It's just like, it's like a little experimental, but just enough that it's not embarrassing that he's 37. Oh, he got some pussy. That's what happened.
Starting point is 01:28:27 What's you mean? You got the pussy recently? My wife? Get out of it. Well, don't use the term wife. It's not disrespect Al's fiancee, but it's not your wife. You're forever fiance. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:40 You're brilliant. How a date would you get to save your family? I would absolutely take in the butt to save my family. What are you all acting like, these gay hypotheticals are crazy? Who's the guy that's like I wouldn't fuck a dude to save my mom? How old is mom? That was my first question. Come on.
Starting point is 01:29:00 How old is your mom? You could extend your mom's life for five years. Five healthy, happy, happy years. Five years. What I got to do exactly? Get fucked in your butt. No, I don't know how you're like how you stayed it. I thought you can't out gay anybody.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Hey, hands on the desk. Hands on the knee. Oh, my God. Bent over. Slide in to completion. All right. What are y'all doing, dude? You guys don't care about anything but your own sacred asshole.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Let's do one more. Your virginal assholes, that much to you? Silver underscore 42. You said to save your family. Charlemann, you have children. You're not a good father. You said mom.
Starting point is 01:29:49 What about your kids? You got to, I didn't think about kids because I don't have them. What if the robot is tricking you? I suck all your dicks to save my daughter. What if the robot is tricking you? That's not a part of the hypothetical. The robot makes you think your kids are in danger.
Starting point is 01:30:03 You're trying to not be gay for the hypothetical. Okay, okay. Well, if you tell me my kids are in danger, can I at least check first? Yes. Because if you don't check first, if they be like, yo, your kids are in danger, you gotta suck everybody's dick and you suck all the dicks and you're like, ah, ha, we were just playing. No, but you check first. You gotta check first.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Your kids, all your kids are in danger. Because if you don't check first? Even the ones you might not know about, in danger. I'm what I'm saying. If you don't check first, you just wanted to suck to me. No, okay, but okay, you check, they're all in danger. You don't suck multiple dicks? I don't want to, I don't know why we're having this conversation.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Because it was an ask an idiot. Yeah, it's an ask idiot. I didn't ask this. I just answered, honestly. Yes, to be totally honest, I would be as gay as I have to be. Thank you. That's, hey, happy Father's Day coming up. Let's end on that one.
Starting point is 01:30:47 We're going to go. We're going to go. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast
Starting point is 01:30:55 and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's a brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.

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