The Brilliant Idiots - The Original Lie

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

In this weeks episode of Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne The God and Andrew Schulz are all over the map—in the best way. We kick things off with a real talk about parenting and how society shapes the way we raise kids. Then we dive into the New York Knicks—what’s working, what’s not, and how coaching decisions are shaping the team. We also take a hard look at how off-court behavior affects an athlete’s image and the media’s role in all that. From there, we get into the bigger picture—how the NBA and NFL handle ethics (or don’t), and how winning sometimes comes at the cost of doing the right thing. Of course, we had to talk about LeBron James: his legacy, his future, and how he’s changed the game. We also give a big shoutout to Dawn Staley and her recent book success—major props there. Then it gets a little more serious as we break down the current political landscape: Biden’s presidency, the state of the Democratic Party, media accountability, and the real challenges of leading in a divided America. We talk trust, identity politics, and how politicians often use distraction instead of real solutions. And yeah—we’re not afraid to get into the tough stuff. From generational changes in how we talk about substance use, to the role of comedy in politics, and why honesty and courage matter more than ever in leadership. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Shalameen the guy. Andrew Shult. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Welcome to another week of brilliant idiotness. You know, I hate to put Taylor on the spot, but what a way to start the goddamn podcast. Tell them what you just told us 30 seconds before the podcast started. I feel like a lot of... No, no, no.

Just no, I just don't want my son to be influenced with certain talks. That's happening. I don't think that's how it works. I've heard a lot. A lot of theories about how that can happen, Shorts. I've heard a lot of theories about how people turn that way. They're born that way. It happens to them in prison.

I've never heard that one. That's the new one. Music careers. You know what I'm saying? Not in the bad boy. I've never ever heard. That one. So you think just us talking about it?

To make your son gay? I'm just saying I just don't want to be able. Wow. I don't even, yeah. I don't think that's how it works. I love people. I'm just saying. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

Hold on, Taylor. Hold on Taylor. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Not to get too personal. But, you know, they say when a person is pregnant, sex is good. Like you're supposed to have, first of all, we all know.

We know it's men. For the first few months here. Yeah, pregnant, poom-m-pum is the best. It's unbelievable. It's good for you because it helps the baby come out. So now it's a dicking. Yeah. Yeah, that is.

The baby can feel. You know what the baby can feel. The baby knows you feel good. So it feels good. So what would have more of an influence? I'm talking about gay shit or a dick just battering them. That's right. That's right.

That's right. That's right. Only thing you can hope for that when little PJ comes out, he got his mouth open. Once you get that first little taste, you never go back. Come out with your mouth open. You know what I'm telling you. It's the true. That's his mom.

It don't matter. It doesn't matter at that point. It's just a taste. It's an acquired taste. It's a twas. It's a twist. You know what I'm saying? It's just the taste.

You know, that's a theory. That is a theory. What? That's your theory. If you were born gay, you had your mouth close when you came out to the woman. Now you came out back. And if you was a woman and you came out

with your mouth open. Yeah. Stud. That's how it goes. 100%. Not making this up. These are just the rules, okay? You've seen the little stud babies.

They try to keep the umbilical cord. Yeah. You know. Ha ha ha ha. Yes, that is very true. That was the original scrap on. Charlemaid. Charlie, man.

I got a story to tell you very quick, all right? Talk to me. Someone has your back. Let me just tell you something. New York City got your back. What happened? I'm going to the Knicks game, right? This is high-stress environment.

I'm with my boy. We're working all the things out. We've got to make sure that everything's good. This is game, the second game in New York, so game two. I'm like, I want to make sure everything's fine. I want to make sure the seats are good. I want to make sure everything is okay, right? You're just super high stress.

You're going to the Knicks, got to get this win. Okay. We're going in. We're going to get checked in to go to our seats, right? And I'm about to walk in and the guy goes to me, he says something to me, and I kind of miss it. And I'm like, what was that? And he goes, do you have your tickets for the end of mine? And I go, what?

And he goes, you have your tickets for the end of mine. What's the end of mine? He goes, oh, the end of my dick in your mind. I go, no way. No way. He goes, I had to hold it down for Charlotte, bro. That's right. He can't get you, man.

I had to hold it down for Charlotte. So I got a video. I got to say you the video. I had to put him on video immediately. Salute to my guy. Thank you. Okay. Yeah.

You know, it was rough, man. Not recently, by last year. It was really rough because I was getting gotten the street by people. I was like, yo. Because that's what you least expected. Yes, man. And I'm like, yo, why would y'all do this to me? Like, let me see it.

No, bro, I got to show you this guy, man. This shit, he cooked me. And I was at my most vulnerable, bro. You know how nervous I get about the Knicks playing, right? You know the nerves I'm feeling. Knicks and six. Oh, well, seven now. No, it ain't happened.

Man, come on, stop. I mean, you got to believe. But I do think they'll win game six, though. He goes, I can't get it so I got to get it for. Nix will force the game six, though. No, we got that. Yeah, they'll win in the garden.

Yeah, we got it. Then they'll go back to Indiana and get blown up. What do you think the problem is with the Knicks, man? I got a theory. Okay, go, you go. I have some. It's simple. It's like, stop trying to run off of this.

Let's get some Knicks representation. Stop trying to run with the paces. Why are you running with the paces? Let the paces run. And then when they score, you bring the ball of court and play half court. Why are you playing their game? Poor cat.

Had out there looking like he weighed 500 pounds. He's so goddamn wind. Not Cass killing it. Last night, he collapsed. Nah, Cass been bald. He was tired last night. Maybe he's tired, but he's been bawling. Now, you've been bawling.

Yeah, I think cats are playing great. This is what I think. I know this is hard to, this is hard to take because Brunson is just so prolific. He's obviously our best player. He's unbelievable leader. He's clutch. He's everything.

But what happens is, the Pacers play 94 feet of defense. Yeah. And Brunson doesn't have breakaway speed. What he does is he has amazing handle, and he has, he's so smart. Especially going to the basket. He out thinks you. So what he does is he is an incredible first step, and once he gets by you, he leans on you and uses his weight to keep you from readjusting.

But 94 feet, if he gets by you, they're fast enough to run. So they put this guy Kneesmith on him. Kneesmith is big body, and he's hard. pause, but he's hard to get by. He plays really great defense. He's hard to exploit, right? So what happens is by the time Brunson takes the ball up, there's eight seconds left on the shot clock.

They could barely set up a play. So now everybody is rushed. You can't get one up, potentially reset. So what I think they need to do is, and when Towns and Brunson are in the game together, Carlisle's a fucking great coach, and he's out-coaching tips. What I think the Knicks learned in game three

was in order for us to get back in games, we need to put defensive lineups out there, and you can't really have Towns and Brunson in the game at the same time unless it's the end of the fourth quarter. Yeah, because you need points. You need, well, no, no, they both score, but you need defense.

At the end of the fourth, an end of the fourth, they usually need points, they're usually down. So then let Brunton go one-on-one at the end of the fourth. But earlier in the game, if you're down 10, 12, 14 points, you've got to put defensive lineups in. They can get stops.

And the Knicks have guys that can score. Absolutely. Bridges can score, okay? Like, OG can score. Kat can score. So I think you've got a flip-flop cat And I think you've got a flip- They can score but they're not shot creators

Cat's the only other shot creator. Well, no, I think Bridges is a shot creator. He can create a shot for himself. Baseline turns around. It does that little shot. Shoot dude off the bench. What's the only name with the braids? Deuce?

McBride? He can create his old shot. Listen, the Knicks have guys that can score. That's a thing. But what happens is they all become a little dependent on Brunson because he's so prolific at getting his shot off. But if he's getting his shot off

at the expense of the other guys getting involved, you can't rely on him for every bucket for two straight quarters. I agree. So if you're down 14 points, let Brunson rest knowing that you're going to bring him back in, eight minutes left, five minutes left in the fourth, and he's going to carry you. Dave's going to give a fuck about rest, boy.

No, he doesn't. But he needs to care about strategy because Carlisle figured out how to limit Brunson. Brunson is still going to give you 40. There's no question. He's playing out of his mind. But the 40 might come at the cost of the other guys getting involved. Think about when we were down 20 or whatever, and then we came back in game three.

I'm pretty sure Brunson was on the bench at certain times. Cat was out there playing like a fucking big man going downhill, driving to the hoop. No, Cat is the best big man shooter in history. You guys know this, right? He's better than Dirk. No, no. Statistically speaking, he is the best big man shooter in the history of the game. I think I remember that stat from a year.

I didn't know it was career-wise. I'm letting him shoot. I know he's not going to play crazy D. I'm okay. You just can't have Brunson. and Cat as defensive liabilities. Because what they're doing is they just run and pick and roll on Brunson, and then he's exposed down low, guarding a big, and there's nothing that he can do.

I love the cat plays like a big man. When he played like a big man in A3, oh my God, that's what brought him back. And here's my thing about the NBA. Why do people just settle for three-pointers? You know one way where that Indiana has been exploiting New York? Nicks don't be having no interior defense sometime. So Paces just go down there and get laid up, dumps, quick shoot little right there mid-range shots.

Why do we just, why didn't they? just settle for three. It feels too easy. It literally feels too easy for them to score, and every bucket we're scoring is painfully difficult. Yeah. Painfully difficult. And that's what I'm saying.

It's like if Neasmith is in the game and he's on Brunson, I'm totally fine resting Brunson for a little bit. And if they switch Neesmith out, put him back in and let him exploit whoever's on him. Like, Carlisle is smart. He realized that Josh Hart really can't create off his own shot. So you put Halliburton on him. And now their defensive liability, which is Halliburton. And now he's, that's completely negated.

So Tim's just got to start coaching different. And right now he's basically just going, hey, Brunson, can you just score 50 every night and take us to the finals? Like, and that's not how you win in the playoffs. Yeah. You need to make those adjustments. Now we're going to be subject to the lowest rated NBA finals ever. Knicks got in seven.

Nick's got it. Knicks know that we could beat them. We know. You don't believe in you this. I do. I know we could beat them. You believe in New York. You believe in the Knicks.

I believe in the garden. I do. But you don't believe. leave in your heart. By the way, if they did, I would be, it would be fantastic. It would be great.

I don't think there would be a better story in basketball over the last 20 years. Oh my God. Like, not even like the Knicks winning a championship would be incredible.

Who's got a better chance coming back 3-1, Minnesota or the Knicks? The Knicks. Nix. Definitely. Because the games have been close. Definitely the Knicks.

Yeah. Right? And they've been very competitive games and Indiana's closing out well and Tib's got to make some different coaching decisions. Like, I don't want to blame Brunson up because he's playing

out of his mind. He's our fucking superstar. But if the other team does something to limit Brunson, like if you even notice in the last game, they started letting other guys bring the ball up. And it's because it's a grind on Brunson to bring it up 94. They bring in McConnell. Then they bring in.

And they throw bodies out. Namhart. They just throw bodies out. A lot of fatigue, man. Exactly. Like the Knicks be fatigued as fuck. And then you're talking about somebody like Kat. You know Kat can shoot the ball.

But can you? When you're seven feet tall, you know, 250 and you've been, you're tired as fuck? Fourth quarter. 12 quarter. You're trying, but you heaving shit. Also, Turner's been a lot better than I. Oh, Turner's, please. This is the first time where I'm like, all right, this guy is like.

No, Miles is playing out of his mind. If the reality of the situation, these guys have always played like that. Nobody watches the fucking Indiana Pacers except for Caitlin Clark and everybody in Indiana. Yeah. We don't see the Pacers. The Pacers have literally been probably a top three team in the NBA since February. If I'm Tibbs, I'm putting a big defensive lineups. Obviously, you start with your five.

You put big defensive lineups in and then just make them earn tough buckets. Make the Pacers earn tough buckets. And if you can stretch out that lead, leave them in. And play half-course basketball. Stop running with the paces. Yeah, when it's appropriate, I agree with you right there.

Like, you stop running with them. The only time the paces should be getting fast breaks is when the Knicks miss and they get a rebound and they take out the court. Or it's a turnover and they take off the court. Just running back and forth, that shit is... I'm like, Nick, y'all not that kind of team. Yeah.

Poor cat literally looks 500 pounds. Yeah, it's, yeah, you just look at how easy that play is. They just run this easy pick and roll up top on Brunson. He can't get over it and he can't get under it. And it's just, they, Carlisle smart. He found a way to exploit our best player. He found a way to punish us for having our best player on the floor. That's a smart coach right there.

Yeah. And, yeah, I like jailing, though. He's unbelievable. He's the best player that we've had in our lifetime. He's a superstar. Come on. Why? Y'all been hearing people

with the best player in the life. The Knicks? Yeah. Who Bernard King? My lifetime, bro. You think Jail is better than Patrick Ewing?

Yeah. Really? Without a doubt. Yeah. God. Damn. Yeah. Like, what he does is, like,

majestic. The question is, he's going to have to do it every single play for the last two quarters if we're putting these teams out there. You think Jalen Brunton is better than Carmelo and Anthony?

Yeah. Yeah. Come on, guys. You think he's better than the prime Amarri Stadamai. Well, did, did Amari or Carmelo take us to the Eastern Conference Finals? Nick, they get Amari. Not Prime, right?

Yes, Mello took the Melo? Not Eastern Conference finals. He said my, semi, semi-final. Yeah. So that's going to make you better. I mean, at the end of the day, we don't win. If that's the end of the case, you went to the finals. Fucking, uh, uh, not Clyde Frazier.

Um, Willis Reed, won a champion. Yeah, but I'm talking about my lifetime. I'm not saying back then. All I'm saying is, we need to switch some things up and we need to We need to defend. Right now they're finding ways to expose us. So we need to put in our D guys. And we have D guys that could score.

Deuce McBride can shoot the fucking lights out. Yeah. And he can lock up. So you might have to run Deuce in place of Brunson a little bit as long as the other guys could step up. And I think you flip-flop towns and Brunson. Thank you so much. Yeah.

I think you flip-flop towns and Brunson at times. Yeah. Because I think it's too much of a defensive liability when they're both in the game. Kat's going to be a little bit slow on switching. And I love Kat and he's playing out of his mind. But defensively, we can't, they're going to score two. And he's going to be very slow in the second half

after you don't fucking played him fucking 40 minutes. Yeah, Tibbs, Tim's going to take a needy. Do you guys see the Brunson lookalike competition? No. I didn't see that. The Asian guy got robbed. I just want to say that. I mean, Brunson does look a little bit like a statue outside of a P.F. Chang's.

He does have that look to him a little bit. Jay Lynn. Jay Lynn, J. Lynn, Brunson. Jay Lynn. Jay Lynn Brunson. Play the Kendrick. Perkins clip. Taylor, I want to see what Shult thinks about this. I saw this last night. It was very interesting. What's big perk saying? Oh, you know, Perkins is the king of the hot takes.

What's big Perks saying? Everything about Perks takes. You don't got to like it. But it's hot. It's hot. You may not like what comes out that oven. You may not like what comes out of that kitchen. It's got to, it's hot. Now, let me read the quote. Perk says you got to check the boxes when you're facing the NBA. Bird, Magic, MJ, Colby, Braun, Steph. They were all family men married with kids. Played a clip, Taylor. Play the clip, Taylor. This is Kendrick Perkins on first take and they're talking about did they crown

Anthony Edwards too soon his face of the league. Well, I think the league is doing everything in their power to not crown them. But I think the people are are, listen. Signature shoot. You're going to be in commercials. You're going to put, you're going

to have the highlight. You've got to have the game. But you know what else you got to have? You've got to be a role model, right? And things Outside the Lines Matter. Now, if you go down the list of all the faces of the league in the history of the game, you look at Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, LeBron, Steph,

what did they all have in common? While they was playing in the league, they all were family men. They all were married with kids. And if you think that don't play a role in force the role, old model. This is facts. This is not something that I make. Hold on. But this is not something that I'm making up. Now, what happened to them

after they retired? That's their business. But while they are, you got to check the boxes when you're the face. Let's talk about it. Say why that's cap. Well, okay. Talk about. I think that sports in particular is

probably the only field. Oh, no, not just sports, but sports is definitely a field where that don't matter. You don't have to be a family. He named some people, right? First of all, Shaquille O'Neill didn't get married until he was in the league for 10 years. He literally got married like his 10th year in the league. The shani on the end. Look it up. He got married. He literally got married after being in the league for a decade. He had beyond several endorsements. Magic Johnson didn't get married until 1991. You know when he retired?

1991. He got married in like September, retired in like November. Michael Jordan didn't get married for like, he played five seasons before he got married. I don't know anything about Larry Bird. All I'm simply saying is,

what happened, Chris? You never saw his wife. What do you mean? With Byrd, there was no sense of him being like a family guy. Oh, yeah, I didn't know. Does he even have kids? I think he was a daughter, yeah.

I never knew that. So my point is, I think that sports is probably the only industry where nobody gives a fuck if you have a family or not. Nobody cares about how many kids you got. Can you go out there? If Anthony Edwards had scored 40 points

and they won the game and tied the series, they wouldn't even be having that conversation. I think that you make a fantastic point. It's not a necessity. I agree. I do think that his, like, relationship issues,

like having a bunch of baby mamas, trying to pay off one of them, of them for lifetime child support. Like, I don't think that helps the league feel comfortable handing them to keys. Now, there's a difference between being a superstar and the league handing you to keys. I agree with that. And I think that he's going through, like, a different version of kind of what Jai went through, where it's like the league wants to hand him the keys, but he keeps doing knucklehead shit

in his personal life. And then the league is like, man, we can't give him the fucking keys. We can't make him the face. Now, the fact that he's getting whooped in this series is it almost like the league is, I wouldn't say the league is happy about it, but the league

is taking a side of relief because if he dominates the series and wins a championship, they're going to have to give him the league no matter what. If he gets smoked and kind of exposed by another guard, then the league can be like, okay, we don't have to give him the keys. The people are not going to compel us to make this decision.

But we can't act like what he's doing off the court. doesn't affect his marketability. I mean, it's hard to say that when he's still got hella endorsement deals, when all of these commercials are still playing during games, when his sneaker at an AE1 with Adidas. Yeah. A fucking, not Nike or some big basketball shoe.

He's got a signature shoe with Adidas and is selling crazy. No, no, there's no question he's going to sell. He's a superstar. I mean, I love that his game is unbelievable. Like, if there's one person playing right now that I wish I could play just like them, it's Am. Like, he's just unbelievable. It's interesting.

I love Ant. but you can watch him and Shai on the court. Shai is light years ahead of man as a ball player. He is. It's more exciting because Aunt dunks. If Shai dunked and put his nuts in people's face the way Aunt does, man, we might be having a discussion about the first person out of the country being the face of the league.

Yeah, I think that, like, that's the difference. It's like, shy is just unbelievable player, but I think that the game isn't as enticing to the average. basketball fan because if you're not shooting threes from the logo. I'm putting your nuts in people's face. Exactly. So it's just, I think that, I think Perk is wrong

here, but the conclusion ends up being the same, where it's like, you're off-the-court shit can't affect the league, wanting you to be the next superstar. LeBron never had any off-the-court drama. Never. And the league was very lucky to have a talent like him, a singular talent like him, that they could also

give the responsibility of the whole league too, and know it's going to be in good If the NBA gives the whole league to Aunt, and then Aunt gets another girl pregnant, and it's another payoff, what is that saying for the league? LeBron actually got the league early. And what I mean by that is, you know, he wasn't married when he came into the league.

He had a long-time girlfriend him and Savannah eventually got married. But what made them rush giving LeBron the league was Kobe's off the court, you know, a situation. But guess what? Kobe was still the face of the NBA, whether the NBA wanted them to be a nut. Every player, it's right, including shy and all of them,

say that's my influence. That's my goat. Kobe was my goat. Kobe went to the finals three times. No, no, at the end of the day, it's meritocracy. The best player wins no matter what the fuck the off-court shit is going on, right?

We know that. The people know that. Like, the league did not want to give Alan Iverson the keys. Oh, my God. But the people made the league give him the key. So there is that possibility still. Don't get me wrong. He is that talented.

He's not doing it on the court. He's not going it on the court. That's why Perk's argument is silly to them. Because once again, if Aunt had scored 40 points done, like they only scored 15. If Ann had scored 40 points and they tied the series, that conversation would not even be happening. That wouldn't, but Adam Silver would be like,

fuck, we're going to have to give this kid the league. God, can we give him a vasectomy? He's one vasectomy away from having the keys to the league. The funniest shit I saw somebody said, Anthony Edwards was playing uncomfortable in game four like he had a condomar. That shit was funny as fuck. Yeah.

I mean, what would you say if your aunt's, like, mentor, if your aunt's age and your aunt's manager, like, what are you telling him right now? Outside of his play. Get out of your own head. I don't, because maybe I'm watching the game. I don't see Oklahoma doing like a crazy defensive scheme. that shutting them down.

You know what I mean? Like I, and by the way, even if they do have a defensive scheme that's slowing you down, you still got to find a way to adjust. Yeah. You're Anthony Edwards. Like, you know, when you are crowned and people think you're that great, you got to find a fucking way to win. I will say to compliment him, like, it's literally just the girl shit, right?

Like, I think he got into some other thing early. Yeah, his teammates all say he's a fantastic team. He is a fantastic teammate. He's likable. He gives them credit for everything. He's so likable. He lights up on camera. Like, he's so complimentary to teammates.

Like, he's got it on the court and everything. I know he's maybe not playing great last game, but on the court, he has got it. What's the problem with him and girls, though? You got a couple of babies moms? You can't Sean Kempit. Why not? You know.

He's 22. Yeah, but it's they're responsible. It's their response. To have what, four kids? You got how many baby moms? Not as many as Nick Cannon. Not as many as Elon Musk. The thing is...

The kid has to be in the industry fucking 20 years before you had 12 baby mommas. And we make fun of him for it. Because it's just a fun thing to do. You know what I mean? I don't know. We don't really care.

He's taking care of his kids. Who cares? There was a story and I don't know how true it is, but it was essentially he was being sued for child support. He said, I'm just going to pay it all off right now because I never want to deal with this season. Legend!

Come on, that's your kid, man. What you mean? That's your kid. You don't want to deal with your kid at all. I didn't know. I didn't hear that. I heard he didn't want to do with the baby mom. No, he paid the mom off. I can't say that. I don't want the kid at all. I don't, I didn't hear that. That's your kid, man. You did it. I don't, I didn't hear it out. So that's what comes across. And who knows if it's true. Maybe he's like, I do want to be in this kid's life. Who knows?

The technical is there. Okay. So he's basically saying, I don't want to be around the kid at all. And the league can't give you the keys if you're not being a responsible parent. Because it's at the end of the day, something you bring kids to. Basketball's built around kids growing up, loving the sport and that connection between your family. And you watching the game together. Like how many games we watch with our parents? So the league can be like, oh, yeah, here's this guy who's just nutting in every girl that allows him and then having kids and then trying to pay them all off. It's got to be more to that story. Sure.

You didn't see the messages. Huh? You didn't see the messages. Carl Malone didn't want them to do with his kid. Yeah, because she was like 14. But my point is, like, nobody cared. Like, he, Cal Malone, nobody cared. But there was, there was, if Carl Malone would probably be in jail now,

if the media was as decentralized back then. as it is now. Because didn't he get a 13-year-old pregnant or some shit? Carl alone deserves to be in jail. Like, I don't even understand why he's not in prison. It doesn't matter.

No, it might because the law can't be, that's what I'm saying? I'm trying to figure out why I didn't charge his, I'm sorry, I should say allegedly on that. Can we get the actual age? Because that's like a huge accusation. But didn't he get some underage?

It was definitely an underage girl. I remember that story. I definitely remember that story. But the fact that none of us knew about it, you could kind of control it. Man, you remember those times? I was thinking about this other day when it came to publicists

and just the way the media and shit was set up. Do you know how much shit people had that you never knew about? Like, think about your favorite entertainer, your favorite comedian, your favorite sports athletes. You're president. Kennedy.

All president. We didn't know FDR had no legs. Kennedy was a sniper, right? Yeah, he was. taking them down. That's what the street says. He was like, before the Clinton, now, he was, before the Clinton's in the Trumps of the world, he was... Stickman.

That's what I... That's what the street say. The screech say that. The screech said that. I hear that story. Uh-huh. But listen, man. Uh-huh. Was he an effective president? Well, I don't know, really. People got spices. Aren't they supposed to be role models, though, in the sense? No. Charles Barkley, Nike did a... This is what a hypocrisy

comes into play. Nike did a whole campaign with Charles Barkley about not being a role. role model. That's how you know that shit don't matter. That was fantastic. All we care about is can you who. If you can go out there and give us 30 a night, 15 boards a night, nobody will give. I can give you

example after example after example of people who are so problematic off the court and nobody cared if you went out there and did your job. No, you 100% right. And every single team or fans of any team that's being critical of Aunt right now would take him on their team in a heartbeat. Are people really being

critical? Yeah. As should, bro. Like, you know, deadbeat dad shit is whack. Is he a deadbeat? I don't like that's such a harsh accusation. I don't know. He has other kids that he's not a deadby too, but to that one woman, like, he doesn't want anything to do it. Got to hear both sides.

You didn't see the messages, bro? Yeah, I got to hear both sides. There's got to be a reason for this. And if that is the case, and obviously it's allegedly... Especially if you're saying to me that he takes care of his other kids. And I don't know anything about... Sure, because he has the other... He has, I think, two baby moms. I don't know anything about any of this. Do other ones again? Carmel. The girl was 13. This happened in Louisiana

and the age of consent is 17. Shit. So he should be in jail. So what happened? Like, how did he get off? No charges were filed. Oh, he was dropping 50 a game. What would be? No, seriously, what year was? If no charges were filed, I guarantee he was a star athlete when all of this year was happening. Yeah. But he went to, he went to college in Louisiana. Didn't he play for Xavier? He was 20. Who do you play for? Louisiana Tech. Oh, he was, yeah, he was.

He was balling in college. Star athlete. I'm sure they paid him out and the whole thing. That's crazy. He probably didn't have no money. He didn't know. I'm certain the school might do. They knew that he was going to the league.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's my point. If you are good on the court, all the other shit don't matter. I'm not saying it makes it right. He's not saying it's okay. I'm not saying it's okay. We're willing to look past certain transgressions

so that our teams can win, which is 100% accurate. The NBA might not be willing to do that. But NBA is definitely, the NBA has the limit. The NBA don't go as far as the NFL. The NFL, I think that you're, you can get one body. You could kill.

You can kill. Depending on the circumstances, you can get one body and still be on the football. Yeah, if you're not guilty, you're good. Yeah, I don't think you could do that in the NBA. The NFL really believes in innocence of proven guilty. Man. They do. And even when you've been proven guilty, they're still like, ah, I'm not.

C-T.E. You know what I'm saying? C-T.E. Because money matters, that's all. No, it's right. You're right. You're 100%. And people, you know, it's sad, man.

When it comes to sports, people get over things very quickly. Like, when it comes to sports, people get over things very quickly. And you have some very powerful people who have your back in sports. Like, they're like, look, we invested too much into this guy. You know, think about homie that played, um, do he play for the Hornets? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? What's his name?

I can't remember his name right now. Oh, he played for the Hornets. He had some wild shit a couple of years ago. What was his name? The forward. I know who you. Hold on. Let me pull it up.

Hold on. Let me pull it up, man. So I'm reading. And has four kids with four baby moms and there's another paternity test on the way. Damn. Oh, is that the one he's not, that's what he's probably waiting on. Let me wait for the results of the test come back. No, it's a different one, right?

You're talking about Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges. What happened on Miles? Ain't got four baby mamas and four kids another paternity test on the way. And he's not a fiancee, too? Yeah. What are we talking about here? Like, you could be critical of that.

Like, come on. This is unbelievably irresponsible. What happened? Yeah, it is. Four different baby mamas? Still not as much as Elon Musk. Shut up, baby. And we criticize him.

Elon Musk not been married. I don't think so. People don't really criticize. Nobody cares. He's not even married, though. You know, you know, when they care to Taylor's point? I'll be honest. I think it's corny.

You know when people care, when you're not taking care of you care. And the perception is. because Elon's got money, he's taking care of the kids. But there's different versions to take care. Yes. Take care as being there. Yes. Yes.

If you gave up, if you paid off a person's child's report for life? Nah, you got to be present. No, you do have to be present, but I didn't hear that he wasn't present. I heard that he, you know, paid off the child support and just because he didn't want to deal with the baby mom. I didn't hear he wasn't present. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? All I know is if he had scored 40 the other night and the series was tied, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Yeah. No, you're right. not even be having this conversation. That's my whole point with this. If you, if he dropped 40, then the series was tied, we wouldn't even be caring about this. I'll tell you one thing.

David Stern would have faked them paternity test. David Stern would have faked them. A real commissioner, a real commissioner would have stepped in and fake them paternity test. And he would have one kid by one baby mama, it's over. 100%.

100%. Where's Adam Silver at? You got to freeze the envelope. You gave Dallas the fucking first pick. You can't fake a car. couple of paternity tests to make it look like Aunt got no babies? If we being honest, Carl Malone, that was the David Stern era.

Of course. If you believe the stuff about Michael Jordan, you know, having a real bad gambling habit. Well, we know that's true. That's true. But if you believe that they had to suspend them for a year and all that, you know what I mean? Which I don't believe. I don't believe that. But I'm just saying, there's a lot of stuff that happened under the Stern era that you didn't know. And those are

the golden ages of the NBA? Adam, you've got to step up, man. You got a little issues you need to get right. I mean, he did just rig the latest draft. That was cool, let the white African go to Dallas. Shout out white African. Made sure Luca got to L.A. You know what I mean?

Shut up white Africans. I'm just saying. Like, that was a good move. Make sure Luca get to L.A. Let Braun go to Cleveland for his last year, right? Freaking, you got Cooper flag in Dallas now. Oh, you think Brown's going back to Cleveland? He should.

He should. They're going to take Brownie with him. Think? Yes. Did you think L.A. going to keep him if LeBron leaves? God bless Bronny, but you really think the Lakers are going to keep Ronnie

if LeBron leaves. Wow, so Bronn leaves. Play your final year in Cleveland have your farewell tour. You have the farewell tour. It doesn't matter if you win or not. And Cleveland is a contender. Cleveland had the best rec...

Holy shit, Cleveland's a good team. Did they have the best record in the league? They did. For the Eastern Conference. And lost in the second round, badly. Four to one against the paces. Perfect time for Bronn to go back.

I didn't even consider that Cleveland has a good team. And he's a free agent. They don't cost nobody nothing. You can take veteran minimum. If he's willing to do that, that'd be very selfish. Take the veterans minimum, go to Cleveland, have your farewell tour. You'll be in the finals again.

Can I throw a suggestion? And this would be illegal, but this would be my suggestion. I go to Cleveland. I say, I'm going to come there, and I'm going to come there for the veterans minimum. We're going to try to win this championship, win one more for Cleveland. then I'm going to retire. You're going to keep on having Brony on your team for another. This is the illegal shit.

You're going to keep on having Brony on the team or sign him for four more years or whatever it is. You can't drive. You got to keep them on the team. And when I retire, you have to let me purchase an ownership stake in the team. Well, he's trying to buy that. He just want to do that in L.A. That would be way better, but I don't think L.A. needs it. He wants to do that in Vegas.

Like, that's the, that's the conversation that they've had. So he'll be like the new owner of the team. Yeah. Definitely possible. But if he wants to do the hometown thing, which I don't know why he would want to spend his time in Cleveland, but if he does, that would be remarkable. I mean, it's your last year. Like you are. I'm saying in perpetuity.

Like, if you're- The only thing I've understood is that he doesn't see himself as a Cleveland guy. In his mind, Akron and Cleveland, there's a master of distinction. And there's not that sense of like, it's home. Right? Like he played there. He won there. It's the same state.

but like he reps accurate. Yeah, but your best championship is in Cleveland. If I'm being completely honest, the only place LeBron should have a statue was in front of the Cleveland Cavaliers Arena. You could give a Miami too. I think, I think you could give him Miami. Only because they lost,

but then that made it real. They had to lose in order. Yeah. I guess. I mean, do you, to me he underachieved in Miami. How many they win in Miami? Three.

No, two. Only two. Two. However, they lost. They lost one. And he promised nine. Yeah. His fault.

That's the way draft picks works, mate. Okay? You said you were going to win nine championships. You only gave us two, Bron. I don't think you get a statue. I have a question. Yes. You consider him in your top five?

Who, LeBron? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. How come y'all don't consider, like, him being a bitch on the court, like when he's like that. No, bro. When he's. Savannah going to run down on you, yo, I don't. Okay.

She knows that he acts like a bitch on the court. What? What is what? What is going on? No, no, on our seriousness. No, for a for real. When he be fake, like, acting like he's hurt and everything. Everybody does that.

Not like him. Every- Everybody does that. Everybody flops. I don't think. I've never seen no other player do it like him. Oh, you gotta watch Chris Paul. Are you gotta watch Jaylon Brunson?

Jaylon, Jaylen is the best of it. Nah, he ain't better than Chris Paul. How did Chris Paul not get hit and be like? Shy is good too. Harding was very good. Foul baiting, it's called. Yeah, foul baiting. How come y'all don't consider that, like, as a player, though?

I think it's smart when it works. Jordan didn't fly. I would say Kobe didn't do that. Yeah. Listen, I think it's smart. They gave him the calls all of it. Jordan, Kobe got all the calls. I think it's smart when it works.

I don't have a problem with it. Really? It's not fun to watch. You don't think it looks ridiculous. Yeah? When Brunson and Shire really pushing it, it's frustrating to watch. It is. They all do that.

I'd be wondering what the fuck's wrong with the ref. because we'd be at home watching that shit like goddain that wasn't no fucking what does the refs see you're right there on the court like sometimes people don't even get hit and somebody goes and falls out and it's a foul call. They start every time with the ball with the tricking wing out. Yeah.

And then it's just like from there it's just like I don't think LeBron James is a bitch on the court. I don't I honestly truly believe He's too pleased to be doing that shit. What is what did he do to you man? I just don't like that bitch and it looks crazy.

I'm not even joking when I say this. It does. I think all criticism of LeBron James is actually unfair. Okay. Why? Okay. Because this man has played 22 years. That doesn't mean he asks like that.

He's played 22 years at the highest of levels. Has he always won? No. But he's always gone out there in this era of people who like to do load management and all of that shit like that. He's always gone out there and giving us his best. for 22 years and we've never seen somebody play this long for this good. I truly, and I'm not even, I truly feel like all criticism of LeBron James is unfair

because the Andrews point, he spent a lot of time in Cleveland. Okay. With not the best around him. Now, when he got his Kyrie's and his Kevin loves, he still didn't necessarily win, but he got Cleveland won. I really think all, all criticism of LeBron is unfair. I'm just saying he's just trying to act like that all the time. It's like just two months.

What does it make you feel like when you're saying that? He's not a man. God damn. You say any trans? What are you saying? Who do you think is tougher on the court, Angel Reese or LeBron J? See, that's hard. Is it?

That's hard. Women are amazing. Go, Taylor. Cook. Fucking Cook-Teller. Let her fucking cook. Taylor. I don't give a fuck.

I'm with Taylor. Go, Taylor. I'm with you. This is biased. How did I think about it? LeBrona, Angel. Who's tough one in the court now that I think about it. I gotta think about it.

I got to think about it, though. I don't know. That's a tough one, you know. You can seduce Charlotte in a hot take. I don't know easy, bro. Did you see... He loves fun too much. Checking it, he feels so fun.

Did you see an angel the other night she put that big-ass pick on Alia Thomas? And Alia was going down and she just had to grab Angel's jersey. And Angel didn't even fall with an angel. Can't run it and smiled. Never seen Braun do no shit like that. Hey, hey. Never seen him brown. No shit are dirt.

It's a good ass point. Speaking of women's basketball, I'm getting a bunch of texts right now. What? Dawn Staley's book, number two in the country. Just came out. Wow.

Get the fuck out of here. On the nonfiction list, which is, so it's only behind original sin. So that's pretty fucking nuts. What's original sin? Oh! Oh, get the fuck out of here.

She made number two on the New York Times bestsellers list. Holy fucking. Oh, that's the wrong book. Oh, no. Fucking. This is the number one book in the country. This straight-ass book that pisses me off that we'll talk about in a second. Shout out to Don Stanley.

Uncommon favor. Number two book in the country on the New York Times bestsellers list, baby. Let's motherfucking go. Black privilege publishing Simon & & Shoots to salute to Don, man. Oh, that's incredible. Number two on the nonfiction list. Wow. Why not are your sweatshirt?

I'm aware of tomorrow on the radio. Wow. They want you on that five. I don't know. Yeah, I got to get on there to say congratulations. God damn it. Wow. And fucking credible.

Incredible, man. Let's pay some bills and come back and talk about this. Number one book in the country. Let's do it. Original sin, which I've read. Let's pay some bills. Man. Let's do some church announcements.

Donald Trump has commuted Larry Hoover's sentence. Donald Trump shortened the infamous former gang leader's sentence after years of advocates present for his release. Donald Trump has commuted the sentence of Larry Hoover, the infamous former gang leader from Chicago. However, the co-founder of Chicago Gangs, the disciples, have been serving multiple life sentences since the 70s. He has multiple state and federal convictions, including from murder and finding a criminal enterprise. He has made repeated requests to shorten his sentence, including under the First Step Act, a criminal judge. That's the reform bill passed during Trump's first term. I wonder, to that, that don't mean he comes.

Does he have a chance to come in home? What is a commuted sentence, man? He gave Michael Grimm a full party, too, Chris. Who? Michael Grim. Who's that? Remember Michael Grim, he was the former Republican congressman from New York, and he pled guilty in, like, 2014, the federal tax fraud charges?

Oh, vaguely. Jesus Christ, man. Wow. Let's do, what's your church announcements, Hezzi? Life, Netflix. And that's it right now. Life on Netflix, man. My church announcements are simple.

Salute to Don, motherfucking staley, uncommon favor, basketball, North Philly, my mother and the life lessons I learned from all three. This book came out last Tuesday. It is an instant New York Times bestseller. We just got the word. You heard it live on the podcast. It is the number two book in the country

behind the original sin. I threw original sin on the floor. is a fantastic read. But I'm really pissed off at original sin for a lot of different reasons, but not really the book. I'm more pissed off at what's inside of the book. And I'm actually even more pissed off because if we would have this book out a week earlier, Don Staley would have the number one book in the country. But you know what? God is good. Okay, God is good. God is good. Don Staley has a million different accolades, you know, Olympic champion, you know, WNBA, Hall of Famer, you know, college basketball national championships,

college coach of the year. Too many accolades the name. And now she is a New York Times bestseller, number two book in the country behind Jake Tappell, original sin. Shout out to Black Privilege Publisher. Shout out to everybody at Atria. Shout out to everybody at Simon & Schuster. Thank you to everybody who went out there and purchased that book.

So make sure you go and get that right now. Can we please have a discussion about Jake Tapper's book? Jake Tapper's book. I've seen you be quite outspoken about this, Charlie. Well, I was outspoken about it before I read it in typical brewing that is fashion. Okay? But what I said still stands. There's not nearly enough accountability from Jake Tapper in regards to the media's role in the cover-up of President Biden's decline.

because that's what the book is about. The book is about President Biden's decline is cover up and his disastrous choice to run again. First of all, it's a great read. I'm not even going to sit here and act like it's not a great read.

It's the number one book in the country. And it's number one for a reason because it is a great read, right? But all it did was give details to everything that we already do. There is nothing in this book that over the course of the campaign or even before the campaign

that a motherfucker like me didn't say. I said in 2023, Biden should drop it. Just out of curiosity, Charlemagne. When you said that about Biden, did you receive any sort of like scrutiny? Oh, my God. Oh, you did? Oh, man.

What did they call you? It was on MSNBC saying I was a Russian, I was spreading Russian propaganda. I'm like, why? Because I got eyes. And you know, it's even more fucked up about this book. In the book, it talks about it. I forgot what the percentage is. I think it was like over 60% of Americans thought Biden was too old.

So I wasn't seeing anything that was so out of the ordinary. I got eyes. When all of us were saying these things about Biden, we were saying these things about the current administration, we were sharing our frustrations with the administration, you got labeled radioactive Russian propagandists. We got, we got labeled extreme right-wing lunatics, right? Now all of a sudden, you've seen all the, not many of the liberal media pundits start to echo the same sentiments that we were saying for four years that we got criticized for. Now, we can't go, I told you so, because it's good that they're getting to this point. Oh, no. We can definitely say I'm talking. All right, let me say it's better.

The mature version of this is to not sit here and go, I told you, and go, well, it's good that you're here because now we can make the party a better place and you understand what people, but we're not mature. So we're not. So we got to have some. No, we're not. Listen, the back of this book says, where's the apology to us, yo? What, the whole corporate media apparatus on the left. side had tried to make us radioactive for four years. Now all of a sudden, they're doing this reversal

where they're echoing the same talking points that they criticized us for for four years. They're going on talk shows and referring to you and myself as these like extremists. And now they're saying the same fucking thing. But because they can make money off of it, all the sudden it's okay. You labeled us part of the right.

Now it's time for you to say that we were right. Okay? That's what the fucking book. And you know what John Stewart said that was so ill? John Stewart said, you're making money of telling us things that we knew. You should have told us for free two years ago because you're the fucking news outlet. Forgetting about the fact how fucking weird it is that the news is selling you a book about news they should have told you was news a year ago for free. And I got mad respect for Jake Tappell, you know what I'm saying?

And it's saying an indictment of Jake Tappel. All I'm simply saying is there is not enough accountability being had by the media. And you know what? I don't want to hear Biden lied to us all. You know why? Or the Biden administration lied to us all. That's not a good enough excuse. You know what?

That's not a good enough excuse? Because you got eyes. Because you got ears. And it was your job as a journalist. Aren't you a journalist? That's right. That's right. The same way I can go on Breakfast Club with a Daily Show of Brilliant Idiots

and say things like Joe Biden is too old. Joe Biden needs to step down. Like, you should be able to say that on your mega platform, but you didn't. And guess what? If Joe Biden was president now, you still wouldn't be saying that. You wouldn't be saying that right now if Joe Biden was president. Listen, this shit says, the back of the book says,

what the world saw Joe Biden's one and only 2024 debate was not an anomaly. It was not a cold. It was not someone who was under or overprepared. It was not someone who was just a little tired. It was the natural result of an 81-year-old man whose capabilities that had been diminishing for years. my guy, I was on ABC News with Jonathan Capehart. No, with Jonathan Capehart.

I said verbatim, February of 2024, Joe Biden should not debate Donald Trump. He will get washed by Donald Trump in the debate. I said that everywhere I went, but I said it on a huge platform like ABC, and I said because even though Trump's three years younger than Biden, he just comes off more youthful. And he got them motherfucking jokes

and them thing is he's going to run circles around Biden. It took for y'all to actually put him out there. And you know what they say throughout this book when they talk about the debate? Why did they ever put him out there? Who was around him that didn't see he wasn't capable of going out there? We weren't, we're not at the White House every day, Schultz?

We don't, we're not even in the press conferences at the White House is journalists. We're watching on television. So who was really president? that's what I want. Cool, but that's the good that's the good news in the board. And who's the committee?

A lot of people. Lobbyers, don't know. The pollibur. Yeah, what was the name of it they had? Politburo they called it. And should there be some sort of punitive measures? No.

No. Well, man, let me just get it all out. Should there be some sort of punitive measures, bare minimum accountability, but punitive measures, and then some sort of legislation put in place to stop this from happening. Again, we had a situation where someone that was holding the most important position in the world did not have all their faculties with them.

And the people around them hid it from the American people. This is democracy. This is not a dictatorship, right? Hit it from the American people and were potentially, allegedly, making decisions on behalf of that person. People we did not elect. People that were not democratically elected were making decisions for Biden and then giving him the responsibility of those. decisions. To me, there needs to be some sort of punitive measures taken so that the next time something this does present itself, they will be concerned about making those decisions because of

the punitive measures. I wonder about that though, because isn't your team supposed to help you govern? Help you, not do it for you and hide the fact that you're not capable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what it appears has happened. Yes. So, I mean, look, I'm not, you know, I've read about half of the book. I think I have a pretty good sense of what it's about what's going on. It's a disappointing read if you're a Democratic supporter, right? Yes. Like, it's a, it was a self-inflicted wound. They did it to themselves. It is true that his inner circle absolutely managed him and tried to put him in situations where he would seem most effective and present and vigorous and shielded him from situations where we would have a better sense of

really what he was going through. But I will say this, in the end, it played out like the way it was supposed to play out in democracy. It should have played out earlier. And I think that's the fault. Because at the end, there's a line in the books. I don't know if you remember it. But after the debate, there's some, a woman who's like, God, they couldn't have found a

fucking positive COVID test. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And not put him out there. I think it was General Malley Dillon. Maybe. Yeah, I said that. But they put him out there. And America had the right reaction, which was this guy.

Not fit. He can't do it. Yeah, but Chris, I agree with you. It should have happened earlier. It should have happened when he got elected. I'm not even joking. From the moment he got elected in 2020, it should have been, look, we don't give a fuck what you want to do. You're going to be a one-term president.

You're going to be a transitional president. Let's start the process now. But who's we? But why are they still making it? The same we that was covering up for him. But now, see, but when I read this book, I'm like, there is no weed. And that's part of, it's a good,

it's good news and bad news. But why should we even make that decision? I feel like sometimes the DNC is too much power. They didn't have enough power on this. They didn't have enough power. This was all Biden. This was Biden. This is Biden.

All Biden. What do you mean? He wanted this. He wanted this and nobody stepped in. He wanted what? The run again. No, I'm good. I'm fine.

Yeah. I'm good. Yeah. Oh. Right. There was no secret backroom. No. Kabbal of Obama and Nancy Pelosi and all these people.

That's right. The problem was they respected him too much. So the dynamics as it's laid out in the book, and of course the books ultimately, to Jake Tapper's lens, but let's run with it. Yeah. So now we have to believe Jake.

It's not just Jake. Let's not, it's not, it's not for no, Jake. After he did cover for Biden for four years, now we're supposed to believe him, but are you still doing cover? Or he's no, no, he's not covering for Biden at all. Well, no, no. Biden announced prostate cancer and fucking step on this.

No, no, no. I'm telling you right now. Of short, he's not covering for Biden, but is he covering for whoever was protecting Biden? My point is like, no, no, nobody gets covered. Trashing whom? Everybody. What's it called the Politburo? What's it called?

Polar Bureau. Polyboros. It's like a play on a Soviet kind of leadership. This is the narrative in the book. All I'm saying is like, why do we trust you now? No, it's a fair question, which is why I'm saying. Lied to me once. Why would you not lie to me again?

Very fair question. So why is this information true? It seems to me that now that Biden is of no use to the Democratic Party, that it'd be very easy to discard him and blame everything on him. I'm going to be honest with you. That's what they have to do shows. And I'm pretty sure I've said this here on brilliant years before. Any Democrat moving forward, you have to throw Biden under the bus.

Like, that's your first order of business. Like you literally have to throw Biden under the bus, that whole old regime of the Democratic Party, everybody that was involved in that cover up, that has to be your first order of business before we even pay you any attention. Everybody's talking about the people around him, but it's like he's your boss at the end of the day. And even if you think he's not capable, if he's telling you, hey, I'm capable. I don't want you to say anything. Why are people upset of the people around him for listening? How do we know that's true? To me, Biden's a company man.

Like, to me, he was lifelong politician. He knows the game. He waited his term. He got his slot. Mm-hmm. I can tell you how that's true. So it's like, I think he's down to do whatever they tell him. That pilot borough, that pilot borough lied to him throughout the book.

Like, they didn't tell him the real poll numbers. They didn't. They weren't telling him the real poll numbers. They were telling them that he could win. They were saying, oh, you're just outside of the margins. This is the typical, you know, margin of that treason? No. No, no.

It's lying? Is it? See, the President of United States of America? There's not a black and white lying situation in the book. Yes, it is, Chris. No. They literally, like people like Nancy Pelosi, them were literally saying, what polls are y'all feeding him?

According to the book. There were Democrats around saying, what polls are y'all showing him that he thinks he can win? I've heard this outside the book. I've heard this outside the book, and my resources will remain secret. anonymous or whatever, but like I've heard that the people around them were just lying to him. It's in the book.

Now, what advantage do they have by lying to the president? Sucking big, glazing? No. Top-tier glazing. Well, they stay in power. Oh, 100%. That is what concerns me. Their need, their thirst, their desire to stay in power, they propped up someone who is essentially

puppeteered. To me, maybe it's not treason, but there's a form of corrupt. right there. When you are lying to the person that we democratically elect so that you can maintain in this position of power, that goes against the democratic process because you guys know that you're making these decisions. And now to just blame everything on Biden, when he's fed false information from this Paula bureau or whatever the fuck you want to, they need accountability. We don't even know these motherfuckers are. Did you get to the point in the book, Chris, when Chuck Schumer went to his house? This is what really turned the tide. When Chuck Schumer went

to his house, one-on-one, and just told him the fucking truth. Showed him the poll numbers. Contingly, all these people that run the Democratic Party are heroes. You know how you know Chuck Schoen fed them in that information? Because there's a line after Chuck Schoenwell leaves his house where he goes, he said, Biden put his hands on Chuck's shoulders and said, you've got some of the biggest balls.

You've got the biggest balls of anybody I've ever met. Get the fuck. This is a propaganda piece for the Democratic elites. How could you not see it? They are discarding Biden like trash. They're blaming all the problems of the Democratic Party on this one guy. It alleviates their responsibility. I'm not that show.

I'm not saying total. I don't think they come off looking good at all, bro. Yo, I'm not even joking when I say this. It really make you feel like, oh, it's fuck them for the foreseeable future. I'm not even joking. I don't think that they can continue with the current elites that are in power. I don't think with Pelosi. They got the goal.

They've lost the people. They got the. go. Trump pardoned NBA Young Boy. It's over. I'm not even joking. Wait, right now? Yeah. I thought you parted Larry Hoover. He did. And NBA Young Boy. Oh, it's done for Democrats. Oh, it's done for Democrats. Hold on. Young Boy is free. Free? He's not just free. He's free. NBA Young Boy. NBA Young Boy will be on an arena tour. Yo. Democrats. NBA Young Boy, they're going to be on an arena tour to some of, I just told. I just told, These are culture wars. Yeah, and Democrats just don't know how to play culture.

And you want to know why they don't know? Because they're not in the culture. They're in Ivy League institutions. They're on Upper East Side of New York. Their hands are not at fancy dinners. They're patting the cells on the back on golf courses. They are not in with the regular people. Now, you could say the same thing about Trump.

You could say on paper the exact same thing about Trump with the Republicans, but then why do they keep doing this? Because they are in culture, though. Because even if I'm- This is what you guys want? You want fucking partying, partying. You know what? Some people do, Chris.

No, no, no, no. Chris is missing the point again. We're talking about strategy here. Yeah. All of this shit that Donald Trump is doing. Remember what I told you? A while ago. You can rob the country blind

as long as you just do a little something that makes people feel like you still in tune with what they got going on. Put out the big beautiful bill. The culture should hold out for a slightly higher buyout. Big beautiful bill came out yesterday. Young boy. Larry Hoover.

Come on, watch, watch it. Elon. Go ahead. Big beautiful bill. The big beautiful bill. Wait for it. Wait for it. It gets your friends rich.

And it is, allegedly, I think it is. It's just going to blow up the government even more. People are going to ride this shit to the wheels fall off. Elon must criticize the. You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it. And I reminds the work that the Doge team is doing. I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along. I mean, like, everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year.

I think a bill can be big or it can be beautiful. But I don't know if it could be both. My personal opinion. Elon Musk, Chris, has it. But you know what? But you know what? No tax on overtime. No tax on tips.

Anybody who got an overtime job or anybody who got a job that they're making money on tips is like, that bill looks big and beautiful to me. Listen. They know how to play the game. So you're right, but I'm going to tell me. Let me add another piece today. Please. Who runs social media?

Seriously. Who are in social media? Say it. Chinese? No. Who runs the culture of social media? Black Twitter. Who?

Black Twitter. Okay. So if I put out this big, beautiful bill that's getting all of this critique, Elon Musk, supposed to be a guy. It comes out and says, yo, you're stepping on with Doge is done because this bill isn't going to do nothing but fucking. put more money on the motherfucking deficit. All right, I know what to do to change the temperature.

Let's pardon Larry Hoover. Let's pardon NBA young boy. That's going to get all the computers putin. It's going to wash all of this other shit out of the motherfucking ecosystem. Because nobody gets to computers Putin like Black Twitter. I'm sorry, that's just the way it is. It's not my fault.

Can Black Twitter raise its prices then? Because, God damn, man. You want tariffs? You want Black Twitter? No, no. What do you mean? Raise prices? You mean you want other people? to be, you want to...

If you're going to distract by elevating somebody, making somebody who deserves to be elevated. Got it. Chris, I'm with you. So I'm not cheering. What would you say to somebody who goes, wow, that's what the Trump administration thinks of black people, that all you got to do is give them these little tidbits

and then they'll look away from this... It's not even just black people. Trump understands the art of distraction. That should be his next book. The art of distraction. Nobody understands the art of distraction like Donald Trump. You're 100% right. Donald Trump would do whatever he had. By the way, this ain't even just distracting from the big, beautiful bill.

This is distracted from the talk of nuclear fucking war, which media talks so casually about this week. Russia has just warned Donald Trump to back off over Ukraine with more threats of World War III. The US president seems to now realize, at least, the Russian president of Vladimir Putin has been playing him, talking peace to Trump, but instead beefing up attacks on Ukrainian civilians. And Trump this week warned Putin, he was playing with fire. But as I said last night, one of Putin's cronies, former President Dmitri Medvedev, told Trump

he was playing with World War III himself. And now Putin's top propaganda man, Vladimir Saloviev, has just repeated exactly that in his top-rating TV show. Putin and Trump going at it. The Kremlin in the White House going at it via tweets. Motherfuckers are just casually mentioning World War III, casually mentioned nuclear war. You're talking about two of the most unstable egos we've ever seen leading countries. How do we know those buttons can't get pushed? Let me change the temperature on that.

I don't like what y'all playing on this television. I'm not even going to turn your TV off. I'm just going to turn the channel. Trump has a remote on everything. And he's just changing the channel whenever the fuck he wants to. And Democrats just simply can't keep up, Chris. That's all I'm saying is. We shouldn't emulate that.

Yes, they should. Why? That's the only way to win. It's going to implode. Not if you do it right. There's no right way to do it. There's a version to do it for the things that Democrats are in. Yes.

But they need to be able to reckon with themselves. Like, the party needs to understand how they're perceived. You know what Democrats are? You ever see like a rapper that fell off? Never. Okay. So it's like, you know how like a rapper is the last one and know that they fell off? Right.

They still got the chain on. They still walking around. Like they're popping. When everybody else is looking at them like, ah, it's really not that anymore, right? That's kind of what the institution is doing. And it's going to take a massive crumbling, which is they're seeing what's happening, obviously, last election, before they really look in the mirror and go, okay, what can we change? We lost working class Americans. They keep on saying, like, we lost white males. They looked

at the polling data, the most accurate polling data, 18 to 30, or whatever it is. There was no shift that was greater in this election. They said that about black men. Any other election. Black men were the second highest voting block of Democrat. Right. Chris, Chris, real quick, real quick. They keep on making up all these excuses, and it's just like someone who got broken up with out of their fifth relationship. It's you not. me. That's right. Every single one is you're not me. No, it's you. You lost working class people. What are you going to do again back? All right. So in the book, Shari, you read it. Yep. Why was Kamala Harris, the vice presidential candidate?

The P's black people. They very specifically, right? It came down to her and Gretchen Whitmer, according to the book. That's right. And they said, we have to give it. There has to be a black woman. We have a list of X amount of black women. We have to give it to one of them. Okay. what a fucking, what fucking retard chooses a president like that? What, what, that's how you choose a president by the just color? You go, hey, we got to have a color. What about the person's ideas? What about who, what they stand for?

We had Bernie on the podcast and it was so refreshing to hear a politician actually go, like, the Democratic Party is all about this identity politics. They're like, I'm gay, I'm the best person in the world. I'm black. I'm the best person in the world. He goes, who cares what you are? What do you stand for? Within that context, they like Kamala the most.

They thought she was more experienced. I liked her work as a prosecutor. She had forged relationships with you, Biden, and he respected her on a prosecutor. But she had a lot of cons that they talked about. How insulting it is, you know, how insulting it is to black people to go, hey, if we just throw any black person out there,

we'll win their vote. Well, so that's what I'm trying to figure out here. What's more insulting, Larry Hoover and then be a young boy? Did I not just bring up that exact... Exactly. I brought up that exact criticism. Right. They're both insulting.

They insult the intelligence of the voting base. Let's take a step back. Let me tell you what. I'm not saying that black people love this. I'm just telling you this is what distracts folks because everybody's going to be talking about this. First of all you got a bunch of little kids that love NBA young boy.

They already run the internet. They're going to be all over having the conversation. Like, yeah, young boy at home. We're going to be able to go see. young boy this someone on tour, then you got a whole other group of people saying, this is what you think of us? The algorithm don't know the difference, but I know what they're not going to be talking about.

That big beautiful bill. I know what they're not going to be talking about what's going on in Russia. Nuclear war. Nuclear war. That's my whole point with all of this. You're right. No, I know you're not saying that that's what black people like. What you're saying is that it's an easy distracting tool and perceptions reality.

And if the internet is on fire with a thing, it feels like that's all. everyone cares about. When in reality, people might not, but it can distract from the negativity of these other things. And it's like, but I'm telling you, man, if the Democrats want to come back to prominence, the party that we all grew up with, the party that we were all proud to support, the party that we like really felt proud identifying as, there was a real sense of pride with it. It was like, fuck yeah, I'm a Democrat. No, they got to get rid of everything. They got to get rid of everything. They got to blow it up. You know the other thing they talk about in that book, Chris? And I'm so

saw it is when they talk about how in Biden's mind, because he's an old man, in Biden's mind, results were enough. He couldn't adjust to the culture war. He couldn't adjust to going out there and saying something that's going to go viral. He didn't understand the messaging of it all. He just literally thought the results were enough.

He would get mad at people. What was the phone call where he was yelling at? Damn, I forgot who he was yelling at. But he was yelling at them saying, go out there and tell him what I'm doing. Go out there. there and tell them how we're doing this and how we're doing that. I think it was something with NATO.

It was something with foreign policy or something like that. The summit. Yeah. Is there a blue collar working class Democrat that's part of like the traditional establishment? Gretchen Whitmore would be the closest. Gretchen Whitmer. But she's part of-

Is Joshua blue collar working class? I think so. I think when you're in those states in Pennsylvania, you don't think so? No. It's just not. It's not his backgrounds. I mean, he represents those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, like Pete Buttigieg, you would say, I don't know, is up bringing, but like at the end of the day, he did go to Harvard and he was working as a consultant at like, what is it called, McKinley. Yeah, McKinley. McKinsey. So it's just like, there is a, like establishment. There is a establishment Democrat. The working class, the blue collar folks seem to be part of the Bernie sphere, the AOCs, if you will, right?

And, but the traditional Democrat are just kind of a bunch of Republicans pretending to be Democrats. That's really, that's really what is. Let's just call what it is. A bunch of Republicans taking all the same money the Republicans take. Yes. Spending all the same money that Republicans spend, going to the same institutions who Republicans go to.

Legacy, NEPO babies, the same exact thing that they criticize with the Republicans, and the only difference is they go, oh, but here are my pronouns. You're capping. You're capping, and the people see through the cap. Chris, you know that's true. Well, what's true?

It's true. That was a very big blanket statement. Is there elements of that that are true? Absolutely. Majority of it is true, Chris. They see through the cap. That's why Bernie and AOC got 30,000 people showing up in fucking Arizona, and nobody else in the party can come close.

All right. So how about this is an exercise? It's simple as that, bro. Of the characters in the book, you have Chuck Schumer. Yes. You have Barack Obama. Yes. You have Nancy Pelosi.

Yes. You have Akeem Jeffries. All you're doing is naming everybody that can go. Okay. That's what I was going to ask. The only one I would keep in that whole equation is President Obama. You know why? Because President Obama knows the truth, and President Obama is willing

to speak the truth. He was just going with his guy because his guy had been his guy for a long time. But remember in 2016, he told Biden going on. He told him in 2016 not to run. I don't even think he really wanted him to run in 2020, according to the book. Honestly, there's never been a time where he's really wanted. My impression reading the book is Biden should be the eldest statesmen of the Democratic Party.

I mean, Obama should be the eldest statement of the Democratic Party. That's as old as he should get. But it feels like he's not in. He doesn't want it. It feels like he's one foot in one foot out. The Clintons, they got their fucking bangs in that party. And they did not.

Even when Bill got out, it was like, we are involved, and I want more. And Hillary's going to get some. And we are not leaving. It feels like Obama did his time. And now he's like, I want to go live my life. But you know Bill's motto, though. Keep sucking tell us over.

There it is. There you go. You know who looks good in the book? Who? R. Emmanuel. Oh, yeah. But not, yeah. So it's cert.

Yes, no, you're right. He was the first one. He made a scene. It was like, what the fuck is going on? Right. You're right. No, I'm going to tell you who really looks good in the book. Clooney?

Dean Phillips. Dean was before all of him. That's true. And you know why Dean is a congressman who stepped out there and was like, yo, Biden should not run. He's too old. And he challenged him. And that was the other thing that Biden kept seeing in the book.

Nobody's challenging me. If I was doing a bad job, there'd be some, like, real contenders challenging me. Nobody's challenging you because the DNC wouldn't let no fucking body. Yeah, because they'll primary somebody against you. And then they kicked Dean up. Well, Dean resigned. He resigned. But at first they was like, no, we don't want you to resign.

And then they was like, okay, yeah, we want you to resign. This shit is, you know what this shit really made me realize? Does this feel like a democracy to you? No. But see, that's what I thought. Far way to highway. That's what it feels like, right? No, it would have

It would have not been a democracy if they had come up with a reason for him not to debate If they had come up with a reason for him not to campaign And I'm not saying that instinct wasn't there Yo, that kid David Hogg or whatever like that Love him. Isn't, aren't they trying to kick him out of vice chair? Right now, they're trying to...

So he comes out and he is... That the Parkland kid? Yeah, he's making criticisms of the... He wants the primary everybody who's not fighting. Guess who else said that? Who? that's me months ago. And now what are they trying to do?

They're trying to kick him out. Yes, they're trying to vote him out. He raised $20 million. He wants to simply primary Democrats he feel aren't effective. What is wrong with that? Is that not democracy? How can you not feel like this is a party

that's trying to maintain power, not a party that's trying to represent the American people to the best of their ability, meaning for what the American people are choosing that they want? So you're right, but guess what? That's all parties. And I want us the American people

to take a step back and realize these people will hold onto power by any means necessary. They don't care what lie they have to tell. They don't care who they have to manipulate. None of these people care about we the people. All they care about is their party and holding on to the power within their party. You literally got a bunch of people

who work for the Trumps, who work for the Bidens. All they're thinking about is their bottom line. How can they continue to have access? There's even a line in the book. By the way, I'm so glad I never went to none of them goddamn Joe Biden. Christmas parties. There's a line in the book where somebody in Biden's team goes, ah, who gives a fuck? They still going to want to come to the Christmas party and stand in line for

two hours and take pictures with him. They say that in the fucking book. They also say that he pursued and passed a very much more progressive legislative agenda than people realized. And that's because they felt that's what they ran on and that's what needed to get out there. So, I mean, there was. Hold on, Chris. You're right. You're right. Guess what else? And we always had this conversation here on branding this and everywhere else. They went out there and they tried to preach by dynamics. And what did we keep saying?

It don't matter. If people aren't feeling it. People aren't feeling it. People aren't feeling. When people on the ground aren't getting money in their pockets. Stop. You know the big takeaway from the book and they repeat this several times. One of the guys, I think it might have been Seth Moulton or somebody, I forgot who it was.

Never again will we try to tell people that they don't see what they are seeing. Never again when we try to tell people that they don't feel what they are feeling. That goes with Biden being old. That goes with the motherfucking economy. That goes with how people felt at the fucking border. They bullshitted folks because they don't have their boots on the ground.

Where they fucking fans at, Chris? They don't have their fucking fans. It is a shame that the Republican Party who we see getting fat right now. I mean, they are living high off the hall. Not giving a damn about what's happening with porn disenfranchised people. But they were able to communicate the porn and disenfranchise people

and make them feel and believe we are here for y'all. They're seen. They make them feel seen. Whoa, man. So you're saying the answer is basically just bullshit people. Well, you bullshit in the matter what else is politics. No, no, no. You bullshit in the matter what.

Both are bullshit. At least one is going to make you feel seen when they bullshit. This is what the Democrats are doing, but in reverse. The Democrats are going, and they're not saying this, I'm giving you like a reverse example. They're going, global warming is fake to some Eskimo that doesn't have an igloo anymore. You know what I mean? And the Eskimo's like, yeah, what do you mean?

Global Warrants. That's, that's Bidenomics. That's, look how good the stock market is. What I said is it's the reverse. You would look at that and you'd be like, this is absurd. But that's what they were doing with the economy. They're like, the economy is strong. And there's all these people out here hurting like, who the fuck are these guys telling

that the economy is strong? You've got to look at that. mirror and you are forced to look in the mirror because you've lost the election. Yes. And there's a lot of finger pointing, but eventually those fingers need to point home. That's why I read the book. I didn't want to read the book, but you got to look at it and see what's happening and address it.

I'm giving Jake Tapper a lot of shit. And there's a lot of criticisms of the book, to be fair. A lot of anonymous sourcing, which... It's not, though. I thought it was going to be way more than it is. The cabinet members are all anonymous, and you understand why. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. anonymous. I'm going to be honest with you, man. I had a lot of criticism in this book just because

I think it rings true. That's my gut reaction. Very rings true. We know, Chris, we know it. We saw it. Right. Like, all this book is doing is giving us details to what we saw. Now, is it a plant to deflect blame from the current leadership? That's a possibility. I can't put that past anybody. No, I don't believe it. But I think it's, it's critical enough that it feels. Sacrificial land, bro. You need a catsey. You know. You know. Biden's the Patsy. It was all Biden's fault. Everything is, uh...

You know the best thing about this book? This book blames Trump for nothing. All Trump did was sit there and get the fucking rebats. They were giving Trump layups. Joe Biden in that administration were giving Trump layups. Sure. Like, not even layups, dumps. I said it's self-inflicted.

It was a seven-foot rim. They shot themselves. And Baron got the ball. Right. You know what I'm saying? It was a seven-foot rim and Baron had the motherfucker. fucking ball. Just yamming on people. Like this shit was, it's sad.

Democrats are in this position because of them. And the one thing I would do with this book is read it. If I was Democrats, not be offended by it, not try to deflect, not try to that, not, they already out here, Jake Tapper, and there must be agents for Mack.

Shut the fuck up. All of this stuff happened. Stop making excuses for the Democratic Party. Burn that shit down. Get rid of everybody you don't need. to have there anymore and think about the future. Because it's going to happen whether you like it or not. Like it or not. And they got great pieces for the future.

It's not like there's not pieces there, whether it's the Whitmer's, the Shapiro's, the Westmore. I think the governor's great. I think they have some great Democratic government. They're all cut from the same cloth as the people in this book, though. Well, let's see if they make the same decision. I mean, Bernie and AOC are the people that I look to. Do you think Shapiro on Whitmer?

Oh, yeah. They are. I don't think Shapiro is. I like them. I don't think Whitmerer is either. I'm not saying I don't like them, but I'm saying. Oh, Shapiro. Captain Real with Biden in this.

Yeah, and he looks, he comes off well, too. But like, AOC, Bernie, they're the ones. I personally feel you have to go further left. You have to go more socialist. That would be my. But, you know, we'll see. Did you find it interesting that they don't really mention the far left in this book?

Yeah. Like, there's really no talk of like the progressive. Why do you think? Well, they got co-opted. Why do you think they don't message it in the, it's not obvious, bro? Talk to me. It's a propaganda piece for the people that run the party now.

They're just throwing Biden under the bus. They need to. Yeah, well, I guess they need to go. Like, they need to. Maybe the progressives weren't really around. Because remember, I think he said this on air, but D&C doesn't really fuck with Bernie. They do not fuck with Bernie at all. Probably no mention of because he wasn't around.

I will say the propaganda only works. The propaganda only works if you're willing to not fight for the party now. Meaning if you're... This propaganda piece only works if you're still out there saying no, no, no. Let the status quo. If you're out there saying, yo, this book is absolutely right.

Biden, he's the reason we're in this position. Everybody around him was fucked up. They got to go. If you're saying that, then to me you can be trusted. That's fair. Because you have to burn that shit down, Chris. Yep. Look, I drank the Kool-Aid. I know I drank the Kool-Aid. I was trying

to talk myself into it. The stain of Biden... It happens. Literally, Biden's decision to run again ruined the Democratic Party. Perhaps 100 people...

Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to argue against that. And the cover-up after it ruined... I don't think it's a cover-up, but I hear what you're saying. Chris, it definitely was a cover-up. They covered it up until they couldn't cover it no more.

Chris, I mean, like... They wouldn't have let him debate if it was a true cover-up. No. I don't think they had a choice. They could have... They could have come out with some fucking... Biden thinks he was able to do it.

How could it tell him no? You know, this is the narrative quickly in the book, how it's presented, is Biden resented Obama, because it was Biden's turn in 2016. Obama supported Hillary. So there's tension there. Then Biden has this very, you know, terrible thing happened, the death of his son. He never fully recovers. And from that moment on, he's in this mode of like, I have to make everything look like it's good.

I have to make everything look. I have to keep this thing together because my life is spiraling out of control. So he goes into like preservation mode once he's president and he believes he's always been counted out. He had the accident with his first wife and his daughter they killed. He was counted out. He wins. So he sees this as part of his trajectory. And to him winning and beating Trump in 24 is like the final act in this great legacy.

and nobody has the ability to kind of break through that veneer that he's created around himself, including Obama, who goes to him and says, do you think this is a good idea? And he's like, yeah, I can do it. And then Obama says, well, then you better fucking make sure you win. But it's not enough. And Obama's afraid to step on him because he knows how Biden is still resentful from 2016. And then the other ones are just kind of taking his word on it. And like the only defense you can, we've all seen people age.

It's not one day you're fine and the next day you fall off a cliff. It's gradual and you have good days and then you have bad days. And then at some point, the bad days start to outweigh the good days. And the problem was, I mean, they talk about the state of the union address where it's like, he was good in the state of view. It was okay. Right. But that's what I'm saying. They point to that.

But no, they point to, and I forgot who said it in the book, they were like, we had the bar so low for him. Yes. Anytime it was just, oh, God, he didn't fuck up. Oh, he didn't pass up. The other thing they say that I think is very accurate is Biden got a gift by COVID happening during the first run. Absolutely. He didn't have to campaign.

And if he had had to really go out on the trail, we all would have been like. Yes. We didn't even know if he had legs. Fuck this. This isn't working. We didn't even know if he had fucking legs in 2020. He was just in that box. Tell him me that if you don't vote for him, you're not black.

That's all I'm saying. All I'm simply saying is I read that book. All I said to myself is America just deserves better. That's it. That's all I'm saying. And not just from Democrats and Republicans. We deserve better from all of this. Because this is what I don't want Republicans to do.

And I've been giving Republicans credit for this. Elon Musk speaking out against the big, beautiful bill. Candice Owens speaking out against Trump for various things, freedom of speech, whatever else. And I don't like, I don't like to say Rogan because Rogan's not on the right. But Rogan, even though he supported Trump, speaking out when Trump does something wrong, not acting like they don't see what we currently see. So what I would tell Republicans and Magna and conservatives and everybody who voted for Trump,

don't make the same mistake Democrats did. If you see what you- Have some guts. Have some guts. That's right. Have some fucking guts. If you see something, say something. All the Republicans that spoke out against.

You know, him receiving the plane for $400 million, the Nikki Haley's of the world. If you see something, say something. That right there will keep the American people like, well, at least they fucking trying to hold them accountable. So here's the thing. And Trump reacts to popular opinion. So if you sway popular opinion enough,

he will go along with that popular opinion. Yeah. People call him like a populist in terms of like the support that he gets from people. but he is that in terms of what he supports. So if it looks like the majority of people care for a certain thing or hate another thing, he will adjust to that. So if you are loud about the criticism

and enough Americans share that criticism, you will see that reflected. He is transactional in that nature, 100%. So being quiet isn't going to end up getting what you want. Voicing these opinions will get it on his radar and then he'll assess it and be like, oh yeah, I don't like that at all. switch that shit up. Because by the way, he may not know. I'm not even joking when I say this.

When I see him on meet the press and she asked him, is it your job to uphold the Constitution? He goes, I don't know. I'm after defer to my lawyer for that. I believe him. Because when I read the original sin, there's a bunch of shit Biden didn't know. Not like that. I mean, Chris, here's the real issue. Trump is three years behind Biden. So what are we going to learn from this? Because we're going to be looking at it in the face in a few more years. Republicans got to be honest. They got to be honest the way Democrats weren't. they just got to be honest they got to start they got to call it like it isn't

that line in the book I can't remember the exact quote but the line in the book when the guy goes never again will we try to convince people that what they see is not what they're seeing everybody should remember that moving forward

just as like we tell these senators and congressmen we say listen you have to have your own convictions don't be afraid of A-PAC, the Israel lobby don't be afraid of the pharmaceutical lobby, you got to choose to support something because it's in the best interests of the American people despite pay packs throwing tens of millions of dollars in primary or two. Well, you know what? On the Republican side, you got to do that as well. If you feel a certain

way and it goes against Trump's interests, you have to stand for those convictions, knowing that Trump's people or whatever might primary you as well. And once you beat that primary, you're better. You're better, you're stronger, and they can't ignore you. Have some balls. The first person with balls is going to win. Facts. But what are balls, Chris? Balls are the person who comes out and says all of this is bullshit. AOC.

You can't be on no party side, even if you're part of the party. If you're a Republican, you can't be glazing Trump. If you're a Democrat, you can't glaze Biden in the last administration. You got to come out and call everything what it is. Balls and strikes, that's it. But nothing more than nothing less. If either party does something you believe in, You have to support it.

I agree. You can't just write it off because it's the opposition. Listen, I agree. You have to support it. Like, Bernie was on the pod and he was sitting on Trump about the pharmaceutical thing. He's like, oh, he doesn't really mean it. I'm like, what do you do? Like, he's saying what you want.

I agree. Support it and hold his feet to the fire. You talked about that with the RFK thing. Absolutely. Literally just another date. What is that? It's somebody who was it? You want the food to be good?

No, yes. But it was something. Who was it? I forgot who it was. She was, like, criticizing him for criticizing processed food. Where does he get that? And stuff like, come on. We played a clip.

It's like, yo, stop making this some partisan shit. Don't we all want to eat healthy food? Don't we all have kids? Everybody knows processed food is baked. So let my man cook right there. Let him cook. But that's my point. I think it was Simone Sanders.

We could play the clip. Now, RFK Jr. is like, processed foods are bad, but he is not doing it with any research backing it. It's just his wild conspiracy theories. And I'm concerned. That's my point. You've got to be able to say, all right, he's right. He's right and support it 100%. Like, you know, this is a win for the American people.

Stop being so party dependent and then discrediting the thing that the opposition is doing, even if it's something your platform. That's right. Like, agree with them and say, hey, this is awesome. Let's get together and really support this bill. And by the way, and you know how you do it? You don't give Democrats credit or Republicans credit. You should, but you can, this is why I would word it.

I love that bill. That right there is good for the American people. That bill is good for the American people. That's it. That right there is good for the American people. That right there is not good for the American people. I support that because it's for the American people. And guess what?

I will continue that. All right, not only will I continue it, I'm going to expound on it. I'm going to see how we can make it even bigger. That's what the conversation should be. Instead of saying, oh, a Republican said that, that's wrong. Oh, a Democrat said that, that's wrong. Like, no. Call Bob's Craig.

Yo, you know what they say about us? They say we're all over the place, right? They say that, you know, we flip-flop. I think we're just subjective. If I see a Republican doing something right, I'm going to say it was right. If I see a Democrat doing something right, I'm going to say it was right.

We're not part of a fault. At all. If something's right, it's right. If something's wrong, it's wrong. It's simple as that. And guess what? If you would have felt, if you would have had the balls to do that

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He's been everywhere. That's what the book should have been called. The original lie. Right? That's what the book should have been called, Jake. Okay? Any wish I'm called. Ain't what?

On these matter. Oh. I'm sorry. Yeah. You still get paid. Not well, but you still get. That was a double win. It was like, damn.

God, damn. Arizona knows more. Let me just had that whole combo. He wanted to know what Democrat will compete with J.D. Vance in 2008. None of them. Because if they're not willing to, you know, show us a new version in the Democratic Party. That shit got to be like thunderbolts.

You know what I'm saying? Like you got to pull the sign off and they got to say the new avengers. After that shit. Like if you just run it as a traditional Democrat the same old shit, it ain't going to be no competition for 2028. Okay.

Go to Keaton. No, who's that? Okay, this is a good one. This is a great-beuran-a-dious question. G-Dog-23 says, would y'all sacrifice your cheeks to aliens? in return for the secrets of the universe. No.

I don't need to know the secrets. I'm all good not knowing the secrets. Unless that becomes a secret and nobody can know about it. But I don't want these aliens telling everybody my business, oh, he barely even moans. Now, as a man who's been visited by aliens several times,

yeah. And probably has been anally probed. several times by said aliens. I would love to get something in return for that. I'm tired of waking up with scars all over my body or cuts, you know, like I've

literally... Is it like a colonoscopy? Huh? No, it's not a colonoscopy. I've woken up with... No, but I'm saying, like, you go out and you wake up, or you don't know what happened. No, I'm talking about... No, no, he's... The aliens... They're clapping your cheeks.

Yeah. I've woken up, and my wife was like, What is that? That's what I'm asking. Was it like the same sort of experience? No, because you kind of remember. Like, I've seen the aliens. Like, I remember one time I was sleep. And I had the feeling like the hag was riding me, the sleep paralysis.

And my eyes opened. And it literally looked just like the alien off of signs. And it was standing over me and it was breathing. And as the sun went up, you know, it just disappeared. I just wasn't dreaming. I wasn't dreaming. I wasn't dreaming. I'm telling you I wasn't dreaming.

But he was clapping you? I think he just finished him. I think he nutted and couldn't nutting no more. was looking at me like, God, I want to get hard before the sun comes up. He said you went back. Now, I woke up like this, like, that's great. He was just hosing you down. Hands on my knees.

You know what I'm saying? And so all I'm sitting there thinking to myself is if the aliens are already anally probing you. This is the fact. Whenever the aliens visit, they're annually probing. They're already clapping our cheeks. So why shouldn't we get the secrets at your birth and return? Why do they finally probe us? I don't understand.

What if guys like Elon Musk? Yeah. They got clapped for all the technology and stuff, huh? What if they fucking stay awake? What if they can remember? Maybe that's the thing. Maybe you get the secrets to the universe if you stay awake.

Maybe that's like a game. Maybe it's like a reality show on another planet and these aliens come down and they fuck you. And if you can stay awake while they're fucking you, you get the secrets of the universe. But if you stay asleep, you don't get nothing.

But laugh that on another planet. They put you to bed. Is that what I'm saying? Can you imagine them watching you on another planet? And they're like, God damn, he's taking that. That shit. He ain't woke up yet.

He didn't wake up yet. Maybe aliens told you that Biden was too old to run. You was the first one saying it. No, come on, stop, Alice. We got eyes. We got eyes in the calendar. You was the first one saying it. No, we got eyes in the calendar.

So you don't think you got any messages from the alien? Maybe. Dicking you down. You know what, don't? That's so crazy. Don't think about this. What about that dick? What if that dick gave us direction?

What if? every move you've made and I'll pray this do to God you can't spell direction without erection that's right what if every move you've made it actually puts the D in erection what if every move you've made

is because the alien came down and anally probed you and that's where he put the idea up your ass he put it up your ass you know what I'm saying so why don't gay dudes no more they do They're always ahead of the curve on things. No, you're right.

They got . Oh, my. Because imagine, imagine, imagine. Hold on. No, you might be right. You might be right, though. You might be right. No, you might be right about that.

When he says shit like that, I feel like I'm covering for Biden, man. It's just like, because I got to keep talking like that shit didn't happen. You know what I'm saying? I got to keep talking like I didn't happen. Believe it. Cut it. No, he just bleep it. Everybody can't get everything, okay? That's facts.

Some of this shit is going to get unsealed. When the aliens decides unsealing. Give us another one, Taylor. What else we got, mate? What else we got, man? Oh, by the way, I told y'all that the Diddy shit was, I told you all Capricorn Clark was going to be the one that fucking... Wait, who's Capricorn Clark?

Capricon Clark is one of Diddy's former's assistants, man. And like she really, I mean, I do her testimony. I heard things before she took the stand. And when I heard it, I'm like, oh, that's it. Because, you know, when you got a RICO charge, the only thing you have to do is prove two predicates happened within a 10-year span. What is a predicate? Like a predicate felony, right?

So did he had the arson, the kidnapping, the bribery, the coercion, the abuse, and the trafficking, I believe, fell all under the RICO. But I think he got another child for trafficking, like the interstate trafficking and bringing in, flying in prostitutes. They pretty much got him on that, right? Like flying in the prostitutes. But Capricone said that did he kidnap her at gunpoint?

Right? So that's the kidnapping. And then that kind of ties in with the arson with the kid Cuddy because he came to her house allegedly and was like, come with me right now, I'm going to kill this motherfucker, talking about Cuddy. She was like, no, I'm not going.

Did he get in the fucking car, waving the gun? So all of that shit goes into place. The bribery shit, man, you got Cassie's mom on the stand saying that, you know, she had to take out a home loan because he told her like, yo, I'm going to put this shit out on your daughter if you don't fucking give me some money back, whatever. And then return the money.

You're not going to be the mom's testimony. But he's like, and that's the thing. Everybody keeps talking about there's no evidence, there's no evidence, there's no evidence. Y'all do know eyewitnesses of evidence. Like, if a person is saying this is what happened and I got proof that this happened, like, Even the police pulled up and was like, yeah, the police, the police testified. Yeah, we pulled up and there was an escalade, you know, that pulled off when we pulled up,

which is Capricorn saying, yeah, I was in an escalade with Did he when he went to Cuddy's house, blah, blah, I'm just saying, I'm not saying that everybody that takes the stand is telling the truth. I'm just simply saying that when a person can take the stand, say something, and then it can be corroborated with other things. That's enough. Oh, that's going to be hard to beat in the court a lot. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just telling you what the jury is going to see.

I don't know how Diddy beats this one, bro. And then what's the chance of them just trying to stretch it out? The judge already said that they're going to end early, which ain't a good, which ain't a good, that's not boulding well either for Diddy's case. They say they're going to close early. He said they might end the week early. I don't know, man. You don't think all his supporters outside the court with the free Diddy shirts is going to sway.

They said they're getting paid. And what do they matter? Yeah. They're not on the jury. That's what you should have been paying. They're paid a fucking juror. That's what you should have been paying. But, you know, hopefully,

I ain't going to say hopefully, but, you know, maybe he got to, when I say, it's not a federal case, though. It is a federal case. Oh, maybe he got a couple dollars for a pardon. I don't know. Maybe he got a couple of hours for a pardon. Make it happen.

Yo, that's crazy. What? That could happen. It doesn't matter if he gets part of night. It don't. You got cum done and we know it. Yeah. You allegedly, the punisher said you was eating cum like backman pellet.

Eating it? I don't believe that. He said he was licking, um, he said he said, did he was a clean-up man? Yeah. Then he would want to see the person get nutted on. Then he was like, yo, let me clean it up. And then he would eat it.

You all didn't read that? That's what the punisher said. Why would you, why would you read that with a baby in your stomach, you? I didn't first of all. No. I did not read that. I heard it from. No.

I am the producer of her podcast. So yes, that's where I heard it. You see what I mean now from earlier? What happened earlier? Is this a lot? So what are you reading that's positive? When my reading is positive? If you worry that hearing and absorbing negative stuff is going to impact it.

I read positive affirmations every day. You're from Philly. You'll be fine. What hell is that supposed to be? Show a little PJ. Okay. Brandon Drew says, have you noticed

the younger generations now are almost against drinking and smoking? Yeah, because they're doing fucking pills and cocaine. Yeah, there's better shit.

That's right. They're doing edibles and shit. Way better shit. They're doing harder drugs than that. Like, y'all, we don't even know the type of shit. They're doing whippets. And, you know what I mean?

Like, they pop in prescription pills. Like, I don't know, that's not a flex when they tell me yeah, they're against drinking and smoking. Yeah, because they're doing other shit. Man, I pulled up to the gas station this morning, bro. And I don't know why I did this. I'm driving and I just had something told.

I stopped at the gas station and I shouldn't have. And, you know, it's early in the morning you're not thinking nothing. I saw somebody, you know, I saw the dude wiping his windows and shit. And as I'm walking in, as soon as I open the door, all I hear, is, I'm like, oh, my fucking God. So I buy my fucking bench. and I'm walking out it's just three

people standing there and one of them goes yo shaw me don't take a pick with me I just got home y'all oh my God why

is this happening right now and they wasn't Y-N's but they was dressed like Y-N's which is worse yeah okay that when you When you're not a YN, but you kind of dress like a YN, it's a little bit worse.

No. But dude's like, yeah, I just, but I'm just sitting there like, you know what, man, what's up? How y'all brother's doing? Y'all good, you know, whatever, whatever. Black Spanish people. And dude, I said, I said, what's your name? He told me his name. I said, that's what's up, man.

You know, I just came home. I said, where you was at, the Fed? I said, how long you did, five years. He was like, Breakfast Club got me through. I'm like, that's what's up, man. I appreciate that. I took the picture and I bet you if you saw a video of me outside that store, I was speedwalking like a mother.

Because I didn't park in front of the store. I parked in a fucking parking space. You know how to get, you know when you pull up to the gas station and then there's a parking space over here? I don't know what made me go parking in the park space. I should have just pulled up right in front of the store. But I parked in the goddamn parking space. So you didn't even get gas. You just need a mess.

I didn't need gas. I just need something like, I'm like, I never fucking. Stop. And I said to myself, I said, if I get God right now, I deserve it. Because I. Why don't you? Wait for what?

I just 537. So what happened? So what happened? Nothing. It was all love. It was all love. Well, sure. I have mince in my studio.

I don't know why I stop. You know what? Maybe, because I remember the guy's name. I do. I remember his name. His name was initial. But I don't want to say his name, but I don't.

Yeah. You know, I don't know what he's into. whatever, but you don't salute to that brother, but it just was like, I was terrified. That's what the moral of this story was. The moral of this story was, I was terrified, and that question made me think about it. Have you noticed the younger generation now again drinking this morning? Because it was five in the morning. Let me tell you something.

Where was your, I know where I was going. If you plan on doing anything in Charleston, just say that you're an alien from another galley. And he will let you buff up. You don't got to rob them. You don't got to kill them. You don't got to do nothing. Just say you're an alien and you will be inside of them.

By the way, this is just my PTSD, by the way. This ain't got nothing to do with nothing except for my PTSD. I have a man that has been attacked out here in these streets a couple of times. That's true. And I just did not know what time they was on. Friend of foo, you state your bits. Okay? And the friends act like foes sometimes.

They line you up like that. Let's take a picture. Oh, they both. was on the side of me. I'm like, okay, this will go one or two ways. Oh, no. You know what I'm saying? You know, because when the person pulls the camera out, you don't know if that person's already got the video going. So it looked like they're about to take a pick.

Oh, you got to take your own picks. It was three of them. I always take my own. I always say selfie. How old did they look? I mean, they could have been mid-20s, late-20s, early 30s. They could have went from that range. But then the guys said he did five years. I really don't know how old they were. They looked, I'm just the unk trying to get submits. That's what I was trying to explain.

I'm just, I'm just the aunt going in the store to get some min. They looked like nephews to me, you know what I'm saying? Were you saying? And by the way, whatever y'all on, y'all can be on. Just let the unc get this car, you know what I'm saying? Did you say any? If y'all need your guy, y'all need your guy, what y'all need, man? Did you say anything to neutralize it?

Were you trying to be like? I'm the same person I am. What's up, man? How y'all doing? My brother's good. You know what I'm me? I'm not going, I'm not going to shit on them. You know what I mean?

No, the opposite. Were you trying to be like, nice, so nothing bad would happen? I'm always nice. Yeah. That don't mean nothing bad, still can't happen. You know, it's not anything. You ain't trying to bribe him? You're like, yo, y'all need anything or something?

No, I said, hey, how y'all brother's doing? Y'all good? I had a conversation. What's your name, man? Remember this? I do remember his name? I remember your name? You did five years in the feds.

That's what's up, man. Salute to you, man. Bless us to you, man. You know? And I skedaddled, got on about my business. I'm really just trying to tell y'all, like, you got to understand how people like me feel, you know what I'm saying? I'm an older guy, you know what I mean?

I don't want no problems. I'm minding my business. It's five in the morning. I've gotten jump five in the morning. People have woken up to jump me too. Because you're trying to understand. People have gotten out of their bed to jump me at five in the morning. That's a commitment.

That's great. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know what people will be on. There might be some people who've been told on site when you see them. I've had comments. I'm not even talking about when I say this. I've had conversations. God is my witness years ago,

Las Vegas. Man, two of the biggest security guards I've ever seen in my life. They were doing for security for GEs. If I'm lying, I'm flying. Them brothers came up to me and said, hey, man, man, you know we had a green light on you for years. We were told that when we see you,

just do it. Just do it. I don't know what just doing, man. I don't know what just doing, man. And when I tell you that these motherfuckers were huge, I'm talking about huge. Who's that guy from Screamfighter? Belonger.

Ball Rock. Ball Rock. Ball Rocks. I mean, big diesel motherfuckers. They were like, man, we were told that when we see you for years to let you have it. But no, we fuck with you, blah, blah, blah, this and that. They told me who it was from and everything.

Who? He's not like us. He not like us. Damn. Okay. That's a fact. Okay. I ain't making enough.

That's gonna that shit up. All right. That is a fact. And the only reason I don't say his name because I don't want him to sue me. Okay? The way he's currently suing somebody else. Wait, when did they tell you this?

In Las Vegas at the I-Hard Music Festival, they were with G.E.Z. I'm saying what year because you met? This was 2000. Deserved it. He was me. I don't remember what year this was. Yeah, but just before the back-to-back

you gave him props? I don't remember. When was back-to-back? 2016? Yeah. This might have been before a back to the back. I really, I really can't remember what year. That's when they told you?

Kind of deserved it. You should have told you should. I don't remember what year it was. A green light? Yes. He was going mad hard. Oh, I'm not sitting there acting like a Vick. That's what I'm saying, yeah.

No. Why didn't he deserve that just because he was talking shit? Yeah, I don't know. Talk shit back. No, no, no, no, no. If you got the me, and that's what you got to know who you're talking. If you got the means, I just, I just thank God for always bless me. That's why I know every time I got jumped.

punched in the face, I was supposed to. Because there could have been much worse situation. Like, none of that, none of that bothers me. I say all that to say, salute to all the Y-Ns, all the grown men that dress like Y-Ns, who be at gas stations at 5 in the morning, when you see Unx let us live. We ain't bothering nobody, okay?

And if we are bothering people, going on our mouth. Whoa. No, I'm saying, because there are some, There are some people that are unc age that deserve to get beat up. What the fuck? I'm just not one of them. Do you know what you said? Like punch them in the mouth.

Oh, my God. Boys. They know because there are some people who are aged that are out here crazy talking reckless. You deserve it. Yeah. I'm not one of those guys. Right. I'm just trying to get the work to make y'all laugh.

Right. That's all. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent. What the fuck am I saying? Still scared from this morning. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,

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