The Brilliant Idiots - The Ruler’s Back

Episode Date: March 28, 2026

This week on the Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz are debating whether EVERYBODY should be grabbing a mic and trying stand-up, they break down why stand-up is a whole different beast. They discuss Jay-Z selling out Yankee Stadium at lightning speed. Is Hov still untouchable? Are people really fans or just hypebeasts? And when did Reasonable Doubt become legendary?  They also get into: Internet vs real life (and why Twitter isn’t the real world) The pressure of being “chronically online” Hip-hop debates, generational fans, and fake nostalgia Why success always brings hate (and how to handle it) ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠⁠ Jess Hilarious - Til Death Do We Parent - ⁠Pre Order⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God - ⁠⁠Pre Order⁠⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel -⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks- By Charlamagne Tha God - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz - ⁠⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" - ⁠⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠⁠ Checks out AlexxMedia ⁠AM Mornings⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yeah, Charleney God. Andrew Shult. We are the Brilliant Idiot Podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Have the Kyle Walker. Oh, sir. How you feeling, man? Man, I'm feeling good.

How was your week? That was good. Good. I was out in Nashville doing shows. I saw you in Nashville, White Atlanta. White Atlanta. Jelly Roll really was doing stand-up? He came out at the end and he, uh, he, uh, he works some stuff out.

It was cool. Why? No, because he's, he's doing this show as part of the Netflix is a joke fest. He's asked me to do it. Oh, they got Jelly doing stand-up? No, they don't have him doing stand-up. He's doing music, but he also might, you know, do some jokes as well. He shouldn't.

Can any white person do anything created? Oh, I love Jelly now. Any white person's creating creative without Charlemagne? Shut it down. You will never hear me say a bad word about Jelly Roll. I love Jelly Roll. Not only do I think he's a talented human, I think he's just a beautiful human. He is a beautiful.

His energy is amazing. I fuck with jelly. Here comes to hate. No, it has nothing to do with. jelly. This is about there are certain skill sets that I think require experts. That is true. And you have to have experience. And I think that we put people in bad positions when we just give them a microphone, tell them to go on stage and tell them jokes. You might can get some tweets off and everybody laugh. It's not the same as getting on stage and making people laugh. We're not asking for an

hour special here. We're just trying to have some fun. But you're setting them up if you say he's out here trying to do comedy because now you have an expectation set. If you just bring jelly up, up and hand him a mic and people don't know what they expect. And he said some shit, they'd be like, oh, shit. But if you say, yo, jelly got to money to make a laugh. Maybe we would have done that before you fucking started this shit. I'm- I saw it on social media.

Jelly Roe going to do some jokes. I'm like, nah, I don't set my guy up like that. Because now. Charlottlement had one bad experience at the stage. I know. And nobody else can do stand-up. Nobody else can do stand-up. Now I can't.

Now I can't laugh. I want, huh? I never tried to end up. You definitely. He used to have the host shows and he would have a bomb. And now he's like, nobody else going to do it. Talking to the mic. I literally came out and sat down.

And I hate that you're traumatized by this because you are so funny that you could actually do it. You're one of the few people that could actually do it. And that's not right. What you're doing to me right now is not right. I'm telling you. That's why so many people getting on stage that shouldn't be because you all say things like that. And it's always the legit comedians, the guys that you look at and be like, damn. It's always them saying, you're funny.

You should try it. Should we say, should we release it right now? Should we say it? Charlottomey will be performing at the Jelly Roll show and that's like festival. Let's go, Charlemagne. If I ever tried stand up, I'd come out in a wheelchair, okay? On purpose.

Just because you're not standing doesn't make it not stand. Oh, I forgot you bombed. That's why you're so sensitive about it. Alex really bombed. So he didn't bomb. It was the, come on, man. It was a kid with Down syndrome coming in the game to shoot a shot. What I would say is this.

The Middle East is used to weigh bigger bombs. That was funny, but I didn't bomb. You see how that was effilistic? That's not how you're almost trying to cut me off, too. I was getting my shit, ready? I was setting it up. You said it was wet. No, that was wet.

I know. Okay? No, but he did. You whicked the ball. He did. Now, you did describe the scenario beautifully in that, like, it was the kid who was the manager at a basketball team. when you put a minute they get, but he still hit the three.

The kid with Down syndrome, who's the manager? Doesn't matter. Yes, it does. It's a difference. If he takes a bite out of the ball, yeah. But if he actually shoots the three and makes it, then it's fine. And he shot the three and made it. If he takes a bite out of the ball, then shoots it, it makes it.

Now you're like, wow. That was fire. He's special. Like, why we didn't have him in the whole time? The only thing was, the only thing was crazy is the end of the video after Al gets a laugh. He goes, thank y'all. I'll see y'all next time. No, I said.

That's my time. That's my time. That's the equivalent of? Come on, man. They came with downstead drone, biting the basketball, shooting the three, making it, then grabbing the ball and spiking it like he's on the football field. That's it. You don't even know what sport he's playing.

It's all good. That's you, Alex. I made the shot. But you listen, everybody go out there, try things. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. We need Charlotte on that stage. Never.

And we need Timmy and Jack Harlow in the front row. You know my dreams? Just wait. You know what my dream is? Yeah. To have Donnell come out in some arena and get the whole crowd to participate in not laughing at him. I've done it on Breakfast Club. I've done it on my TV show where I've gotten the audience no matter what Donnell says to not laugh.

You know what I'm saying? You're a crew guy. Oh, I got him so good. When I had the TV show on Comedy Central, he came out. I'm like, yo, cheer for everybody except for this guy. And he's got an upcoming Netflix special being produced by Dave Chappelle, and he's the host of of the podcast to Donnell Rawlings show. Donnell Rawlings is hell.

Did you tell his audience? No, I did not. I didn't. Don't blame. You told his audience not to respond to me. No, I did not. We're not going to have a show like that, Sean. That is not true.

They was laughing at me. I think you're hilarious. No, wait a minute. You set me up. I think you're hilarious. Donnell, I love you, man. They were like Donnell Rallis. Nobody said.

Donnell, I don't support this behavior. I love you, man. Can you imagine being in an arena for five minutes and nobody laughing? at all. No, no, no, Donnell, Donnell. Don't even put that, that juju out there. Why? It's funny. It's a joke. Why can't I joke? Because your jokes are cruel. Your jokes have a problem. Your jokes are just borderline wrong. Like, you're the only one that finds your jokes funny. That's the beauty. Everybody else is like, this is horrifying. This is so true. That's the beauty of it. But that was what, that's what makes you good on stage.

When you don't care what everybody else thinks. What else is? What else? happened this week, man. What's going on in the world, man? So much negativity. Jay Z's back. Oh, that's positivity. Man, Alex said he can't believe Jay Z sold out Yankee Stadium. You're a hater.

You're a hater. I said, I couldn't believe he sold it out that quickly. Why? Why? Is Jay Z? Two days at Yankee Stadium, he sold it out in like an hour. It's Jay Z, bro. Yeah, like, I don't want to see a question.

Jay Z performing in New York. It's Jay. I love Jay Z. I'm going to turn me into the Jay Zater. Listen, not always it's bad bunny for the, York. I think Jay Z is bad bunny for the world. No, bad bunny is bad bunny for the world. Sure. But I'm saying, Jay Z is, Jay's bad money for the year. Bad Bunny is new energy. Like, Jay has been doing this for years. This ain't Jay first time selling our Yankee Stadium. The crazy part is he had

1.6 million people in the kids. God. Yeah. You can sell on Yankee Stadium like 40 times. Yeah. He could think about that. He could have literally done 40 shows in Yankee Stadium if he wanted to. If he, if he said you know what? Fuck it, man. Let everybody eat. 1.6 million people in the car. You think it's a coincidence that Mamdani paid everybody 30 an hour to shovel snow and that he had 1.6 million people in the queue

for the 60s? I don't even want to see Mundani at the concert. Wait, why? I don't think he knows reasonable doubt. This is... Yo, Mom, Don't Dona, you made it, bro. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Momda, you're popping. Momdae, you are officially popping. The Charlotte hate trade is coming.

Chuguechug, chugger, chug. Chug. Chuga, chuga, chuga. Chalda. Pull up Mundani's age. How old is Mondani? His life is good, bro. He's just good. He's like, good.

Pull up Mundan's age. Nah, this is the energy. I don't think he's no reasonable doubt. But Shalah got a new, listen. When Shalah got a new guy to hang him over? 34. 34? Reasonable doubt is 30.

He don't know reasonable doubt. I'll better trip to Maui on it. Good. I'll better trip to Maui on it. I know reasonable doubt. I'll bet it. If you have Maui on it, that he don't know reasonable doubt. Put your pussy on live.

Put your pussy on love. I'll better trip to Maui on it. He knows it. He grew up hip-up. 34. Reasonable doubt is 30. He was four and Reasonable Doubt came out. The internet don't exist.

Exactly. Why are you actually can't go back to it? Name seven songs off Reasonable Doubt right now. Matter of fact, I'm short, they name five. Okay. Oh, shit. Exactly. 22-2s.

The evils. Okay. Reasonable. A. Reasonable doubt. Yeah. There is a song one they call reasonable doubt.

Yeah, it is. No, it's not. He fucked me out. He fucked me out. There's no song. But it's too much almond and almond. That's what I'm saying.

Come on. And you just say it reasonable doubt of the song. Brooke's finest. Okay. Yeah. Too much. Ah. It shouldn't be this much.

It's not like that. I know. I know. It's crazy. It's not what? It's not the world is yours. The world is yours. No, no.

Oh my God. I know he's... Get him the fuck out of here! What the... He's like the world is your... He named the whole other star. Exactly. Isn't that...

Isn't that... You named the world the world is yours? He got the nods fucking... Get him the fuck. Don't go. Don't Google. Don't Google. Go.

Keep going. You got Liv and Levitio Logue. You got, who else? Who else? The hot... Can't knock the hustle. Alex, you lost the rest. Exactly.

I didn't lose yet. It's too much of a struggle. Is this too much of a struggle? Oh my God. Madani. Madani would do worse. All right. Name five songs off blueprint.

Because he's performing that one too. Oh, Blueprint? Yeah, he's performing that one too. Name five. You serious? Yes, I am. Why you stalling? I'm not stalling.

Ain't no love in the heart of the city. Never change. Song cry. Whole la la vita, renegade. Damn. Ace to the is old. All right, all right. You don't got to.

What, the rule is back. Now, now, hold on. I grew up Jehovah Witness. We didn't. Stand for the national anthem. I'm a stand when the ruler's back come on. Gorns drop. Da-na-na-la-da-na-na.

What are you talking about? See, if you gave me boo-ford, I could have gotten it. What did you mean? Listen, there's so- I fucked up. That was not good. I know. That was not good.

You still got four, though, off the top. No, I got four. No, he did not. He did so much um-in-in-an-in-a-in. He almost spelled Mundani. He was like, um, um, mom, um. It's too much pressure. It's too much pressure.

I don't think, but I know Mondani will be there because he's the mayor in New York. Yeah. But it's nothing worse than watching somebody try to sing along to an album so hard that they don't know. Damn. He might be memorizing it now, though. Domani, did you raise the toll? She is. What happened?

Why do we know what happened? You just did it. No, I didn't. Something happened. Somebody said something. No, I said. Who's more of a legit hip-hop fan? Obama or Mandami.

This is what I said. Obama? Obama. You don't got to push the mic away, Chris. Chris dropped that question through the mic away. Obama. Obama. No, why?

Mondani used to rap. Mondani used to rap. Yeah, he's right. But Donnie used to rap. I did like Mondani's top five. He had a solid top five. When I was growing up, for me, Lupe Fiasco, I also have a real soft spot for common. Also have to put in Jay-Z.

And I think as New York City, we have to put in Biggie. But he just, I just don't think he knows reasonable that. That's all I'm saying? Yo, can we just acknowledge that he's got some motion right now, and nobody can have motion in Charlotte's Ocean. Just not. Oh, that's tired. And nobody can have motion in Charlotte's Ocean.

No, no, no, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm just age shaming because I already know how this is going to go. You think it's going to be a lot of young ruffians out there pretending that they listen to reasonable doubt. That's all I'm saying, a bunch of hypebees. Like Alex. He's saying people that for the last. What about an age limit for the concert? No, age minimum.

No, limit. Oh, no, minimum. Minimum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 35 and over. Nah, no, no. No, no. Okay, you kind of got to be 40.

40 plus. 40 and over. I'll be honest with you. 40 plus. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Reasonable doubt's 30 this year. So that means it came out on out of 12. That was 96.

That's nice. When Reasonable Adel first came out, it wasn't like this crazy takeover of an album. No, no, no, it wasn't. That's a, that. I don't even think you listened to it when it first I'll tell you, you want to know the truth? I'll take the truth.

He's been way not at this conference. Oh, my God. I've had these conversations. You know what's so beautiful about these conversations? These were conversations that really happened during my formative years. Like, these are like mild markers. When did we go back? Mine too.

I want to hear it. It wasn't a when we go back. When was it? Blueprint came out June 25th, 1996. Blueprint was great. I mean, I'm a reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt came out June 25th, 1996. Right.

Reasonable doubt came out June 25th, 1996. 1996, I was Wu-tanged out, mob-deeped out, like those are my God, you know, Biggie, like I liked that type of shit. And when Jay came out, I remember saying to myself,

what is this player shit? Like, all of the day, you know, even Biggie, like I liked Biggie because he had like the street gutter records, but I didn't know if I liked all of that play of shit because all of the real hip hoppers, the Jay Ruella dames of the world, the BCCs,

They weren't on the playish. Rough, yeah. And so when Jay came out, I was like, what's all of this money talk? Go on, go on, go on. I had a homeboy, man, my homeboy booby. When I tell you, he loved Jay-Z. When I tell you, he was like, no, man, you need to listen to this reasonable doubt, you know, you need to listen to this guy, man.

I'm telling this dude is literally talking the life that, you know, people are out here living, right? And I'm like, I don't know. But I'm gonna tell you when I got on Jay. His second album came out In My Lifetime, Volume 1. And he put out, The Screeze is watching soundtrack

and it was a movie that came with it. And me and Boo, we were driving back and, we was going to Myrtle Beach and I listened to Reasonable Doubt and that in my lifetime, back and forth when we was driving for Murdobeach, that's all we listened to.

And I was like, yo, this guy is phenomenal. And then my first concert ever was the Hard Knock Life tour in Charleston, South Carolina. He was at the North Charleston Coliseum. I think this was 99 or 2000. I think you got to be Googling some shits. But it was my first concert ever when the Hard Knock Life album came out. And I listened to those, that was it. In my reasonable doubt, in my lifetime volume.

the screeches watching soundtrack and um hard knock life now and i'm gonna tell you i've i've had ebbs and flows with jay there was a period where my hate for j z kicked in woo i'll tell you why oh listen that's just happened sometimes it's like when you see it's like the it's like the cowboys or the lakers when the franchise is winning too much with no reason at some point you like Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, yo, what is this?

What's going on? Like, take a break. Let the new guys come in. Let the new guys eat, blah, blah, blah. But I can admit that was just hate. It just happens. By the way, it happens to everybody when you've been around for a long time, winning consistently. At some point, people just be like, yo, man, turn this shit to fuck off.

Yeah. You know? But then you come back around because it's greatness. Yeah. You know? I think I came back around, I never, the hate wasn't real. So I came back around like around American gangster. Yo, yeah.

Yeah. Because I think like, Kingdom Come and Blue Print 3. Kingdom Come had a couple of records on there. I didn't love it. I think one of Jay-Z's most terrible songs is actually on Kingdom Come, which is the joint with Usher. Oh, my God. That's horrible.

But Blueprint 3 was, wasn't it? You're crazy. Blueprint 3 is 5. What? One of my favorite JZ records of all time is on Blueprint 3. Already home with Kid Cuddy? You're not in the Hall of Fame for nothing.

That's why you don't like that record. Listen, guys. Blueprint 2 is fun. No, the Blueprint 2.1 was dope. All I'm simply saying is I'm a JZ guy, bro. Yeah. I like Hove's music a lot.

Hove's music has provided the soundtrack to my life. And we've literally watched. this guy grow from a 27-year-old in 1996 to a 56-year-old in 2026. The other thing that blows my mind, all of these people that are online saying, like, oh, you know, he's just doing this to create good press for himself. It's the 30-year anniversary of his first album. It seems like a good time to celebrate. It's the 25-year anniversary of what some people say is his best album.

Ah, okay. Why wouldn't you celebrate those two things? And I should mention guys. FIFA's in town. Not to mention guys. I don't know if you know or not. You can't just book Yankee Stadium three weeks in advance. Not FIFA's in town.

Yankee Stadium takes at least 18 months to two years to book for an event, a concert. How do you know that? Because I looked it off. Where does it say that? You could book something if it's available. It's in the middle of baseball season. Yeah, but they got the games. It's in the middle of baseball.

Brother, brother, brother, brother. It takes, look it up. Look it up. Look up how long does it take to book a major concert in advance at Yankee Stadium? But what made you just think about that? I know the guys.

It takes, it takes 18. You're saying that they booked it 18 months out. I feel like a guy like Jay Z could book it two weeks out if he wants. Not if some, Yankee Stadium if something's going on. Well, clearly, but nothing's going on. It's not like they're moving baseball games for Jay Z.

No, I don't think so. But it isn't in the middle of baseball season. Sure, sure. I guess what I'm saying is like baseball's different than like an arena in that. It says months to over a year. Yeah, but it doesn't make any much. Six to 12 it says, but.

It doesn't matter. Still. The point is, it wasn't spurred a moment. Jay's the type of person that if he wanted to book something three months out or two months or month out, he has the leverage and power connections. Absolutely. But you're not, he didn't book this because he's trying to get positive headlines. It's the third.

When you're, when you haven't been married for 30 years, you're not going to plan something special? Yeah, yeah. When you're, Chris, I won't even married. It'll be 20 years next summer. You ain't even get a blueprint. He ain't even blueprint. He ain't even blueprint.

He's not even blueprint album yet. Blueprint's 25 years. But you're going to do something special for your 20 if, I'm sure. Maybe. Two years. Why can it be? Why can't be? Both, though.

Why can he try to make better headlines for himself and that, too? Because it's just not true. My point is... I'm just saying it's a coincidence. It's not a coincidence. What's the bad headline? I'm saying the questions of the bad stuff come in. You know, they've been trying to slander for two years.

He talked about it in the interview, all of the bullshit accusations. Oh. You know, he's in the FD of all of this dumb shit. But haven't they said that they investigated it was nothing? Yeah. But he said that what he said is the realest shit in the interview. It was heartbreaking. We all been through shit.

You know how that shit go? Like, that's a real human emotion to have to deal. And the Internet don't care. They're just going to keep pumping the most. Oh, my God. Yo, the Internet got shocked. The Internet couldn't believe he sold out that fast. They were furious.

I thought we didn't like him. Yeah. Now, fuck y'all. Suck my dick, you digital dickheads. Don't know what you're like y'all. Y'all can't sell out your fucking living rooms. Okay? That's when you know.

That's why I'm telling you all the internet is not real life. Okay, let these people talk, let them hate. Let the Lincoln navigate. But when you motherfucking got to go outside and people got to pay to come see you, will they do that? That lets me know who's winning and who's not. I think for chronically online people, the internet seems real. And there are people who are chronically online.

Just the internet is the most extreme versions of everything. So they think that's reality. But the majority of people are probably pretty moderate and don't, uh, I don't think they know, Shultz. Say what? I don't think they know.

They don't know because that's their reality. But what I'm saying is like the majority of people are not chronically online. They're not spending 10, 12 hours a day on my screen. I agree. I agree. So like if you're chronically online, online, you see extremity because that's the only thing that plays on the internet. There's no like, hey, here's the nuance take that goes viral, right?

What goes viral is the most insane take on the right, the most insane take on the left, the most dramatic take here, the most dramatic take there. So if that's all you're consuming and that's your worldview and you're not getting out and touching grass, then that's what you're going to think the world is. That's right. Those bots can't help you in real life, buddy. Yeah, but they don't need to be in real life a lot of people. That's the thing.

It's a weird. You're missing a lot? Not being in real life. How did Nashville feel this weekend? That feels so much fun. You see what I'm saying? That feels so much. I didn't feel performing in front of all of those people.

You know what I mean? Practicing new material. That was cool. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. That's one of the biggest artists in the world come out just to kick it with you. Yeah, it was great. The fuck.

It was great. It sucked my dick internet. Yeah. From the back. Yeah. Right. Licked, lick it, lick it. Yo, July 10th of July 11th, we got my office out.

All right. You got your outfits ready. I got my office out. I mean, it ain't gonna be number white. T-shirt. Wait, wait. You didn't answer this. You didn't answer this. First of all, don't say exactly. Like, I'm so predictable. Like, I'm a cartoon character. Like, you just know what I'm going to wear a tail. Hold on. You didn't answer it.

So when did reasonable doubt the album become such a historic album? Like, when do people go back and discover? Because it doesn't come out the gate as like the hot shit. I think, I think when, my personal opinion, I think that it had a very niche coat life following in

96. Everybody knew it was dope if you heard it. Because Jay-Z was one of those people who all of the greats mentioned in some way, shape, or form when you think about it, right? Like Biggie was saying Jay-Z was his favorite artist, right?

And collaborating with him and stuff like that. Pock was dissing him. Why the hell was Pock dissing Jay-Z in 1996? You know what I'm saying? So he felt some pressure. That's my point. I'm not going to say pressure,

but he clearly had some type of energy that made people, you know, pay attention to him in some way, shape, or form. So if you asked me, I think people started liking reasonable doubt. Hard Knock Life. I think once he became a megastar, people started going back. That actual song, the Hard Knock Life.

But that's all Volume 2, though. Yeah, I know. That's what. So Volume 2, and then they go back and see his other work, and they're like, oh, this is crazy. That's what I think. And, man, Blueprint was just super, super duper. Oh, Blueprint was out of here. See you later.

Blueprint was out of here. I mean, super out of here. But Hard Knock Life is really what made Jay a superstar. It's so weird. Like, the way I look back at, I'm wrong. obviously, but I almost remembered Blueprint before Hard Knock Life. Hard Not Life felt like such a huge song.

Do you guys remember? Yeah, Hard Knock Life was 98. Blueprint was 2001. Hard Knock Life opened up white people because of the Annie sample. That's the biggest album. Was it for a movie? Did they remake Annie or something like that?

No. They just used the sample. That's it? Yeah, but he did remake Annie years later. Yeah, he did. Oh, okay, so I'm confusing that. He did it. All right, right.

And reasonable doubt had, because reasonable doubt, you know, that ain't no nigger often that he professed a soundtrack. All right. What was Heart of the City on? Blueprint. Blueprint.

Ain't no love. Hey, do you know how hard, you know how good heart of the city is going to sound? Oh my God. In New York. No, public service announcement. No, no, but I'm done.

Public service announcement. It's a reason. It's a reason ain't. You got to play it, though. It's a reason ain't no love is going to sound so good because we literally saw him go through that

the last couple of years. First of the fat boys break up. Now, every day. Y'all wake up, somebody got a problem with Hove. What's up, y'all niggas all fed up because I got a little cheddar, my record's moving out of the stove.

Yeah. What the, like, what do you say? Wow. Those words that he's saying in that record are going to resonate so much that night that I know his energy going to be on a thousand. When he's listening to the lyrics now, I'm like, I know, he's like, oh, shit.

Do you think a guy like Jay, who's put out how many albums, 12, 13 albums? Do you think he has to listen back to the old stuff to remember it a bit? Probably. You got to, right? Yeah, I would think so. Some stuff, probably. Some stuff.

Like, the songs- He also has a great, he was one of those rappers that didn't write anything down, so he has a great memory. But still, at a certain point, you're 50 years old, you got kids, you know what I mean? It's like a different world. There's no way that you don't just, there's no way you go in cold. Young fuck's spitting at me, young rappers getting at me. What if he say young fuck's spitting at me, YouTube, getting at me, YouTube, getting at me. My nigga Big predicted

this shit exactly. More money, more problems. Got to move carefully. Yeah. Whoa. Oh, I knew it. I knew somebody was going to in the 90s. Wait, what happened? Whoops. What he said?

That'll be a liar. If he don't say it, but the whole stadium says it. If he don't say it, but the whole stadium saying, they're going to go crazy. Because fragel, maggots hate when you get money like athletes, young and, young and, I can't wait. Oh, you're not feeling me fine.

It costs you nothing. Pay me no mind. Oh, my God, cousin. Man, it's going to be, oh, my God. Thank you, God. Thank you, man. Between Jay Z. This summer and Mary J. Blodging, Vegas,

life is good. She is a residency. Yes, she does, man. Oh, God bless you. Thank God for finally caring about people 45 and up, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We're like the forgotten generation.

Vegas has always cared about people moving to age. Yeah. And you know what? You know it's so crazy. I apologize to everybody who used to go to Vegas to see their favorite older ex. Yeah. When we were young, it seemed like so washed.

It felt like you were put out to past. You know what I mean? But now that we're 45 and up and our favorites are out in Vegas, we're like, I see why y'all did this. Fire, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also Vegas changed. Vegas became a younger place. And I think to its detriment in a way.

Talk to me. Well, Vegas became like a destination almost like Miami or something like that. And now they're charging crazy money for the rooms. Like back in the day you could go to Vegas, you get a room for almost nothing. Yeah. You're walking a casino. They're giving you drinks. The drinks are free.

Like the whole thing was curated around you spending your money gambling. And then the rest of those things being like distractions or something to do with your wife so she could pull you off the tables for a little bit. And what people seem to feel right now is that they're gouging you at every point. So now you got less money to gamble and you can barely afford the hotel and the dinner is absolutely expensive and back in the day you could go to like a buffet

in Vegas and have like, I don't want to say top-notch food, but like really fucking good food. They still got good restaurants in Vegas. No, no, the restaurants are fantastic. They used to have a buffet at the casino that was like pretty good. And they do it.

Listen, they still got it, but like everything's really expensive. And I think people are starting to feel like, hey, this isn't a place where I go where I could feel super rich for a weekend. This is a place where I'm going to be stressed with my wallet. But it became a destination. It became a place where you could have 40 different shows you check out.

You're seeing this huge marquee fight. You're going to spend money when you go. Yeah, I've never gambled in Vegas. The only time I've gone to Vegas is for the IHard Radio Music Festival and for other concerts. I flew out there to go watch Usher. Yeah, I just go to it for events. Or if I'm doing a show or I'm going to see a fight or something like that.

Yeah, the spirit is phenomenal. Bro, you know what I've found? You've been to the Spir? Yeah, I saw the UFC at the sphere. My look is phenomenal too. You seen that shit? No, I didn't see it. Hmm.

He thinks he's getting a kid. I know. You know what I know. That was the best. The delivery was pretty good, right? That was the best you've ever done. Yeah. Been practicing all week.

And I don't even know if I could have nailed the land in a few. I think I got the setup. I think you fucked it up. I think you even fucked it up. I got the setup. Not because I heard it. I think you fucked it up. I was trying to figure out what I was going to do.

I should have waited, man. I was too fucking. Yeah, you're saying. Because I had a whole thing in my mind. The cadence is perfect. The cadence. But I don't even think you set it up right. But you said my lick.

I know, but I was going to do it with supplements. My lick doesn't do anything. I was going to start talking about peptides and just start naming peptides. Yeah. Like that My lick shit is good too. But my lick doesn't go anywhere. Yes, it does. It goes in your motherfucker.

No, it doesn't. Shit. See. See. See. You have to be Eulik. You lick. Yeah.

You lick. Not my leg. That's why when you said, I was like, oh, man, he's doing his best. Damn. I'm doing his best. I'm not getting him for you. I've been thinking about that shit all the week.

I didn't even think that that shit don't go nowhere. Where the fuck does my leg go? My dick. That's what it was supposed to be. My dick. My dick. My dick in your mouth. Yeah.

Fuck. Listen, I'm just not good at it. You see what I'm saying? I'm just not good at it. And I know that. You keep trying, though. But I wouldn't see, but that's not, you can't treat stand-up like that. I knew you were going to get back to.

You got to fucking quit. You got to fucking quit. But Vegas. So how do you make, so Chris, do you remember going to Vegas when you were younger? A couple times, yeah. And did it feel like an affordable place where you got to feel like to come up to company, the hotel rooms, buffets? I think part of it was the celebrity chef starting to come in and they really made that

part of the experience when top chef became a big thing. And then if you were a winner or one of the. the top things you would get a restaurant in one of these but then that started to drive the prices up oh so now that we're paying all this money for this stuff we got to find a way to afford it right and then that kind of readjusted the standard where i think the buffets were good but you weren't going to them to expect to get like top tier cuisine for an experience you're going literally to fuel the gambling right right right right right right i'm going to take a break i heard this i heard something i I don't know if this is true, but I heard that, like, the Vegas casinos really stay open off of whales.

So, like, is us gambling a few hundred bucks or whatever? It doesn't really move the needle for them. Listen, man. Has somebody who... That's not even... No, I'm being dead serious. As somebody... Can I say the point?

Because I'm not even trying to catch you? A whale is somebody who gambles a million dollars a day. So they'll extend a line of credit for the way. Well, the pockets are fat. That's the idea. So, like, they're the people... Like, think about how many of us got to be in there. Every day spent in $2.40, $4 and $5.00.

Across everything. They get a private jet they roll out for them. But apparently the idea for like the concierge, whatever, is just fine as many of these motherfuckers who are willing to drop a mill a day in the casino. A mill a day is crazy. Son, that's what they do. A mill at a day is crazy. You know, so I didn't go to Vegas back in the day.

So, me, the Vegas experience still is cool. Like, you know what I love? Yo, low-key for two days, Vegas is awesome. I love it. You know what I love about Vegas? When you're in a hotel, the dark at night and it's the city lighten up your hotel. Oh yeah. That shit

is great. I had a great. The last that wasn't the last time I was in Vegas but that time we flew out there to go see Usher, we had a great time. It was me and my wife. Would you stay? I don't even remember. It was the Holly and her guy. Who? When? The win? Maybe?

I really know. Encore? I promise you, I don't remember. But it was funny because we went to go see Usher and then somehow or another my wife and Jessica Alba started having a conversation. Oh, wow. And they ended up kicking it. And we all, after the show, went gambling.

Oh, wow. It's like this one, I got a picture. It's like all of us in the lobby drunk as shit. And I always look at that picture like, why the fuck was we with Jessica Alba? And then now I remember, and then I've seen Jessica Alba since then. And then we, what are, Jess? That's the thing that Vegas got that no other place in the world has.

Once you're in the casino, know everybody's there. Yeah, they got some private rooms for the high rollers, but a lot of famous people, oh, no, no, you're right. A lot of famous people, they're not trying to do the $500,000 chip, whatever shit. They don't need to go to the private.

They want to gamble kind of regular. So if you go there for NBA Summer League, you'll see the NBA players just at the fucking craps table, at the blackjack table. So there is something unique. We went to some table. I don't gamble, so I don't know what table we would have. But we walked from Usher's show

and went to the gambling table, and we just always. sitting there gambling. Yeah. And Jessica, my wife and Jessica's friend, and we just was having a great motherfucking time.

Yeah. And it was just so random. And all the security was just making sure we was, well, they were making sure Jessica was good. They didn't even fuck about me, I'm sure. But they were making sure we were good. You know?

Like, that was, that was a great time. I like Vegas. Anyway, shout out Jay-Z. Shout out to Hove, man. Shout out Hove. July 10th and July 11th, cannot fucking wait.

I'll be there. I don't think you'll be there. What else we got, Taylor? I'm going to be there. You ain't going to tell her to me. I'm going to be there. You ain't going to tell her with me anyway. Tell us no, if I'm not going to tell him.

I don't need to go. I wouldn't even invite you. Really? You don't want to go? I'm not huge JZ. I respect him, but I'm not huge. That's an honest comment. That's right.

But once again, if you a certain age, I don't want you around me that day. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I don't want you around you. Why? What if you know, you know all the songs, though? I know I don't. I know I don't.

I'm not. No, no, no, no. But I'm saying, but you're acting like what Alex said. Like, people go back and listen to it. So why can't they? You don't think he's going to play anything else besides those two albums? Yeah. He said reasonable, Donald Blueprint.

When he might on Sunday, he added a third show that sold out in a minute. So the third show is Sunday, and it's called Extra Endance. I don't think y'all, and you know what, one more thing. Listen, I know people want to say this is glazing. I don't give a fuck. And hey kids, what y'all call glazing? We call celebrating people. I don't think people are used to what they're seeing

because they forgot what OG mega startom looks like. You know what I'm saying? And the thing that makes Jay-Z so great is like this is the first of its kind in hip-hop. You're used to that in other genres. You're used to Bruce Springsteen announcing Yankee Stadium at 60-plus years old and that shit sells out in two seconds. Billy Joel doing his run at the garden. Rolling Stone.

You're used to all of these older acts. You ain't never seen this in hip hop. You never seen a 56-year-old hip-point hip-hop artists who can do this. That's fine. This is a great point. Could you put Eminem in the same category? I don't know.

I've got to do it. I don't know if he hasn't done it. I'm not saying he can't. I'm just thinking of somebody who would be on that level. Em could do it. I think Em could probably do it. Em could do it. Probably in Detroit.

I don't know. Of course. Em is interesting. Em is interesting. Could Gray do a version of it? I mean, obviously not as a reality. rapper, but like... He could bring everybody out?

Bring everybody out. Of course, to do Dodger Stadium. If they did the chronic... But I don't count. You don't get all the credit if you bring it out a bunch of people. You know why M is interesting? But that's who he is. But that is... That's the inception of Dre is that. Em is interesting because numbers-wise, he's the biggest

rapper to ever walk the face of the earth. Yeah. Numbers why. But... I don't know if... He doesn't have the gravity that Jay has for the reason. He don't have the cultural gravity that somebody like Jay has. He might have the cultural.

And I don't know if his music has aged as well. Right. The real Slim Shady isn't going to do. You see what I'm saying? Lose yourself for it. This is, this is a nostalgia play. And don't underestimate nostalgia.

Like you see all these groups that were popping when we were kids. Yeah. Now doing their nostalgia tours. I mean, Backstreet Boys did the sphere. Like, so clearly you get to a certain age where you want to reminisce and you want to have those feelings you had as a kid, and Eminem evoked those feelings. And I think that we're looking at Jay in New York, and we're kind of assuming that Eminem doesn't mean that exact thing to Detroit, maybe more. I think M probably means that to a lot of people around the world. He's

so too much records for me to be like, M couldn't do that. No, he could, you know what I mean? I think he could do it. I think, I think, like. But I'm also, I'm, I can't have to talk to I don't get to see M all the time, just like you can see J. I think that's another reason why this is special, right? Because when you go away for a while, you get missed. Like Backstreet Boys, if they try to do that 10, 15 years ago, I don't know if they're able to do it. And plus M music for me, I always recognize M as a top-tier lyricist, great MC, but his music for me personally, never touched me in that way.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, in order for me to, like, love an M&M show, are you? Even to coming to Eminem show, it probably would have to be like Eminem and 50 on tour together. Sure, of course. You know what I'm saying? Emin 50 on tour, I'll go

and probably leave appreciating Eminem's music more. But just because it doesn't touch you that way doesn't mean that it doesn't touch somebody in the same way. Billy Joel touches somebody. He gets em-sold more records than everybody. Statistically, he's the biggest rapper ever, numbers-wise.

But I also think doing it in your home, like when you're a representation for those people, Yeah. It just means something different. And you want to experience it. And if you go out and you tour one of your best albums specifically, that even touches another. What would that be for M?

Probably Marshall Mathers, L.P., I think, was his biggest. That's the second one. M should be celebrating a 30 anniversary soon? Probably. But he came out a little bit out. Yeah, 2008. 208 will be like M's 30. I think his first album came out in 98, right?

Look at him. I think in 98. Hi, kids. Do you like violence? Do you want to see me put nine-inch nails through each one of my island? Fire. You want to copy me. A dozen Asians didn't stay away, though.

It didn't age and same way, but it's still fun. But you might just want to hear that. It's a nostalgia play. Hi, kids. Do you like violence? Like, you want to say it. Like, what a crazy bar. My name is, I can rap.

At first I've ever heard, Em, was on a DJ Clue mixtape. He had this song where he was like, and if I had one wish, I wish for a big enough ass for the whole world. I didn't even know that was white. I was like, I didn't either. Okay, what else we got, guys? Yeah, Slim's Shady LP was 99. I know, okay, so 30 years.

That's his first album, right? Yeah. He had like mixtapes or whatever, but that was the first. Yeah, three years, it would be 30 years for Eminem, man. Hip hop is great, bro. Hip hop is great. And it's amazing to watch. Longevity is great.

Amen. When you have been long- Because it's hard. Respect consistency in long- It's hard. Do you feel? this might transition us, but do you feel because of the battle between Jake and...

Who is Jake? I'm sorry, Drake and Kendrick, that it's going to mess up their longevity? No, not Kendrick. Why wouldn't it mess? Well, I mean, like... Not Drake either, man. No, but you know what Jay-Z said?

He's like, it turned fans. It's like, oh, if you're a fan of one, now you have to hate the other. I don't even believe that's real. And, you know, I didn't agree with Jay's take. I respected the take and I understand what the take is coming from. But that's also a 56-year-old man's perspective.

Can you pull that up? Pull that up. You're just talking about Kendra? Yeah, pull that up. So it's fresh in my mind. Have you seen this take, yeah, Andrew? And I know the Internet's not real, but it did seem like online. It's like, hey, you've got to pick a side.

So that's life. Why do we act like that's not life? No, but that's why I said. I think for, I'm just looking at my kids' generation. So people, you know, in their late teens, early 20s now, Drake's undoubtedly the biggest artist of their generations. There's nothing that's going to happen in any way is going to ultimately change how they think about. It's the 1A, 1B, guys.

Like, stop. Kendrick is pretty big, bro. Kendra got to pull a surprise. Not. Y'all got to stop. Yo, my kids' lunchroom, they would all start singing God's plan together or whatever. You know, like, it was that. It's a Catholic school.

Exactly. New York City Public School. New York City Public School. School. There's no fucking Catholic school. Why wouldn't a bunch of Jewish kids sing God? Now's a Jewish Catholic school. So yarmulke's and plaid skirts. I want to go to this school. I got to check it out.

Well, maybe. Maybe L.A. is like that for Kendrick. The world is like that for Kendrick. Listen, there was a time where Kendrick Lamar had the highest grossing tour of a solo rapper ever. And that was the Mr. Morale and the big Stepper tour. And I think this new tour that he was, He just went on with Sizzle, even though it was him and Sizzle.

That broke the record. But before that, it was just him. Why do we act like Kendrick? It's because you all listen to Kendrick doesn't mean that he's not popping. He got a Pulitzer surprise, Chris. You're a writer. You love Pullet. You would love him.

But kids don't care about surprise. I'm agnostic. I don't really care about either. What religion is that? That means I don't have one. I don't have one. Press play, Taylor. The personal thing that you chose Kendrick for the Super Bowl,

it's like, oh, man, he's choosing the son. and he's putting and he's not like like I don't have to do with that I chose the guy that was having a monster year I think it was the right choice word it wasn't in in some sort of alliance to a battle on yeah what I care about them two guys battling like it's like I got to do with me or have at it have fun um it's almost like not just me by the way they drag everybody in it like everyone's part of this conspiracy to um undermine um um um um um Drake, I guess, but like, what the fuck? Like, what? I'm fucking Jay-Z. I'm fucking Jay-Z. Do respect him. I'm fucking old.

Dude, respectfully. Like, for what? To what end? Yeah. It couldn't be that these guys just don't like each other. Yeah. And I think they haven't liked each other for a long time. Before you had anything to do with it.

Yeah. Wow. I think this has been brewing, just like me and Nas was brewing. Yeah. It didn't, it didn't happen. at the summer jam that happened the lexon tv sets the minimum whatever it was it was a whole bunch of stuff leading up to that point the mithleak what is the mith bleak slugs in your hat right was slugs in your head it was a bunch of like little things that led up to that point and then when it happened

it happened i actually regret that because i really like not it's a really nice guy but also to your point like i remember i was like 10 or 11 when that happened i was like a big aside well i was on your Yeah, yeah, I can clearly. But my position was I can't go out and buy Stomatic or ask my parents to buy Stomatic, but I'm going to borrow it and burn it because I can't deny it. Like I want to hear it, but I ain't supporting them. No, that's not the part.

That's the one where he talks about. It doesn't be tired of battling. I do like that part, though, right there. Just because I just love the confidence, man. You know what I'm saying? And when you think about why you like certain artists, It's because certain artists, their music, it instills something in you

and it just inspires you to be the best version of yourself. When Jay-D.'sad thing, like, I will not lose one. He said just now, why would I be undermining Drake? I'm fucking Jay-Z. Yeah. I'm whole. Yeah. It's like, yo, sometimes you got to remind these fools.

You got to look in the mirror and remind yourself. Like, yo, do you know who you are? Yeah, I get that. I think it's also like when you see everything through the prism of competition and these guys are insanely ambitious. and competitive and that's why they're able to reach the heights that they reach, you know, you go, well, why would he stop competing now?

When you see him talk about it, then you step back and you go, yeah, why would he care about this thing? He's just booking the bigger thing. Easy, easy, easy answer to that question. He's 56 years old and you got to look at it like a video game, right? Look at it like a video game and think about all the things we've already seen him do. He's reached so many different levels. Whether we realize it or not, he's reached levels that Drake's. still hasn't reached yet. Is Drake one of the biggest artists in the world? Yeah, but really

Drake is playing a different game in a different era. So why are we even saying the drakes and the Kendricks or whoever else are chasing these guys like the Jay Zs and the Nazes? What are we comparing it to? Those guys are literally already home. They're home with their feet up. Like they're not competing with the Drake's and the Kendricks anymore. Yeah, but like we do this all a time. Like we, you know, people... With errors. Yeah, but with sports too, it's like when Jordan put out the last dance

doc, it was like the conversation was, oh, he's doing this to cement his legacy is the greatest and this is to slight LeBron and blah, blah, blah, right? Or when... That's fun, but it's dumb. Sure, it's dumb. Or when LeBron did Space Kid Jam, too, it was his version of like, oh, you got a movie, well, I got the same

movie. That's the wrong. He should have created something. Yeah. Because I'm gonna be totally honest. If aliens came down right now and was like, we got to play for Earth. I don't know if I'm going to get run. I'm just being honest. I don't know if I'm going to get run. Because he's going to fall. When did that movie come out, yo? When did that movie come out? Pull up the other clip of Jane. When did that movie come out, yo? If, you know, we got to really think about this. If aliens, the mom stars came. down the earth. And they're like, yo, go get your best.

Are we motherfucking destroying this team? I'm putting Braun on a team. 2021. I'll tell you why I'm choosing. That's spaceship too. 2021. I'm getting Ron in 2021. I don't know. I'm choosing the Iranian military.

These guys are hard to get out of here, bro. They stick around. These guys stick around. Any military from the Middle East, bro, the aliens are going to be like, it ain't worth it. It ain't worth it. It ain't worth it. Any military from the Middle East. I'm just saying I'm not going to get Braun. I don't think so. To go against the aliens, bro? You knew Jordan was going to wash you.

You got to get stuff. Yes. I'm listening. Yes. He just making a shot. You got to get a committee. The truth is you got to get a committee. Jordan number one, bird number two. You got you need bird. Get the bird to fuck out. No, you need bird. I'm the biggest bird hater in the world. No, you need bird. I put bird on the team. Yeah, because he looks like them a little. So like it's going to confuse them, it's going to throw them off. They're going to be looking at them like, beep, beep, beep, beep, and like thinking they can communicate with him.

He's reading our screens. Okay, okay, this is a good one. Yeah. We can get all of them in their primes. Yeah. Like, we got some type of machine that can get everybody back to their prime. Aliens come back down right now to date. What's the team?

Who's leading the team? Yeah, Michael Jordan. You can have Bill Russell on there. I'm getting Kobe. Michael, Mike, Lincoln, Colby. Michael, like, Shack. Jack. I don't know if I'm bringing Bill.

I got to see what the monster's on first. God bless Bill. Bill Russell coached white people through racism. You don't think he could be some aliens? Bill could be the coach. You got to let Bill be on a team, bro. You got to let Bill be on a team. He was telling whites what to do in Boston.

You're telling me he can't organize Jordan and Kobe's beef? Yeah, let Bill be the coach. You need Bill Russell. Let Bill be the coach. Come on. Michael Kobe. Chat. He needs Shaq.

He needs Shaq. Get the Asian dude too. Man, get out of here. Yeah, get the following. You know who the fucking you're talking about, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm saying? Yeah, he's not. No, no, no.

You're going to be giving secrets back to China. We can't get it. No, no, no, you need, you need, okay, we got. I'm going to get Steph. Stuff? We need a shooter. You know what? We need a shooter.

We need a shooter. The aliens would be like, y'all ain't seeing shit like that. It's just that planet and that other galaxy. Like, that ain't know. Y'all had that here. I'm going to get Steph. Gotta get magic. No, because now we only got one shooter.

We need it, we need a KD, low key, we need KD. We need two guys that can splash. But you gotta get magic, magical scare them. Because if they've been doing their research, oh, my God. He's like, yo, you said in their prime. Oh, he didn't have it in his crime. No, he did though.

No. He had to retire. He had to retire. But that wasn't his prime. I get what you saying. Yeah, you're right. He didn't have it. You're right, you're right, you're right, you right, you're right, you're right.

And he got to get his son, purely. Or like Ray Allen or. Nah, not the aliens. You gotta get me. You need Steph KV. If we want more shooting, I'll go get Bert. Got to get Byrd. I'll go get Byrd.

I'll get Larry Legend. Come on. I get Larry Legend if we need more shooters. And just the shit talk. Damn, we still ain't picked Braun yet. We like nine players in. You got to bring Bronno at some point. Over?

It's not an over. We're doing a 12-man roster. No, no, we said five. We said five. Oh, five. Oh, five. Oh, yeah. Five.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, five. And it's no disrespect to LeBron. Who plays point this. You let step bring it up You let step bring it up In a traditional point Okay You let Jordan and Kobe cause chaos

In the block If we got magic I'm putting magic at the point But magic is not there He's healthy You can't You're talking This is a different thing We need shooters

You have step there You have Kay didn't You got Jordan and Kobe Jordan and Kobe Give me magic at the point Jordan at the two You have Jordan playing the three And you have Kobe playing the two

Let Jordan just fuck people up So what is Liberto? he's just a white man making sure everything's safe. It's just, no, you have, you got Birdland for. He said if I had to pick one person to save the game, I'm picking Michael Jordan. I had to pick one person to save my life. I'm picking Larry Bird.

Okay, so here we go. He's the ghost shit with the police. Let me put you guys aside for sure. Magic at the point, Michael is the two, Kobe at the three, bird at the four, shack at the five. Ooh, that's crazy. Aliens are getting the fuck out of it. Get the fuck out of here, aliens.

Go to Mars. Hey, me, get off for her. Get the fuck out here. Aliens got the fucking go, y'all. Ain't no way. Anybody else watch from the stands. There's no way you're picking anybody else different. Play that's clip, Taylor.

This is a good conversation, too, man. What's home he's name that did this conversation? Yeah, I said. Everybody is saying. Somebody find his name. There go. See? Right there, right there.

The first. This one? Yes. We love the excitement. And I love the excitement. And I love the, the sparring and the music you get. But in this day and age,

it's so much negative stuff that comes with it, they almost wish it didn't happen. Really? Yeah, because it's not, it's almost like it's a final thing. Now, people that, like, Kendrick hate Drake. Yeah.

No matter what he makes, no matter what he says, and it goes far too. It's like attack on his character and his thing. And it's like, I don't know if I love that. Yeah, yeah. don't know if it's helpful to our growth with the fallout lands, especially on, like,

you know, on social media, which takes place every day. Yeah. And now you have these pods of cult. The Stan Armies fighting. Yeah. And it's like, it's too far. Yeah. It's like bringing people kids in it.

Yeah. And it's like, I don't like that. You know, maybe I've grown in a space that probably, you know, I sound like the old guy, Wagner thing. But I think we can. achieved the same thing as far as like sparring with music with collaborations more so than breaking the whole thing apart. Yeah. It could stand it before because

there was no social media and there was no thing and you know you had the battle and it was fun and then you moved on. Right. Right now I don't know if it could stand it with the technology that we have. Because it takes up so much oxygen? It takes up so much oxygen. Yeah. Now it's just like every day they're just trying to take it. I'm still talking about it. It's not just talking about it. Not like, yo, this song, I like this. It was like trying to tear down people's life.

Yeah, yeah. It's like trying to, you know, wreck this guy's marriage or this guy's relationship with his child. And it's like, I don't know, man. I don't know if, I don't know if it's worth it at this, at this point. Yeah. I don't know. That's all J. Cole was trying to say.

It's old head logic. But he's also underselling how much. oxygen, Nas versus Jay-Z took up with the ice. And Jay-Z, I mean, and Biggie and Tupac. It was, yeah, there's a lot. It was dominated in New York City at the time. Yeah, I think, I mean, well... There's the cost to this.

That's the thing. There's a cost to the energy. There's a cost to the heat, right? Like, sometimes... Always been, though. No, of course, of course. I think that's just what he's saying and he's looking back at it

as somebody who's lived through it, and he's viewing it, you know, for what is it, Monday morning quarterback, he's like, hmm. But to the victor go to spoils, you could say. But then you could also make the argument that there's a lot of people now that hate Kendrick. Let's say Kendrick won, right?

There's a lot of people now that hate Kendrick, sure, that hate Kendrick simply because they love Drake. That's what he's saying. And vice versa. And so he's going, well, is that worth it? Like, was it worth forcing people to decide, forcing people to make these decisions where you can't appreciate someone else's art that you actually low-key kind of think is fire just because you're loyalty to

one person? I'll say what I agree with, first of all, from this statement. I like what he said about, you know, you can still get your sparring off with collaboration. Because now you've got people on records doing records with each other, and they're all trying to one up each other with verses, right? Yeah, but the internet was blood, Charlotte. You know this, man.

I totally disagree with the take on battling because another thing he did in this interview that I thought was dope, he named like the four elements of hip-hop, and he was saying the ones that don't exist anymore, but he was like, you know, battling is like the last one left. And the reason battling is one of the last ones left is the last one left because the MC still matters. the person that's doing the barring up still matters. It's not the beat.

It's not the break dancing. It's not the DJ and it's not the graffiti. The guy with the microphone still matters. And every now and then, we want to see the two best of a generation go heads up. Now, everything Jay-Z is speaking to already existing before the internet. Jay-Z and Nas went to hell on each other in records. You know, Tupac, God bless the dead,

definitely went to hell on Biggie. He starts the song off saying, that's why I fucked you up. You fat motherfucker. That was his wife, his mother of his children. But there wasn't the same reaction channel. There wasn't the same like reaction channel and like clipping economy that adds so much, you know, gas to the flame. But time out.

You're right. But the Kendrick Drake battle is very unique. Kendrick and Drake battle would have probably been over a long time ago if somebody knew how to take an L. If Aubrey Graham just simply knew how to take an L. and didn't do things like sue, the record label. Yes, yes. Damage was done before that.

No, he made it worse. He sued. I sat here on this podcast, told y'all he was going to sue, ingest, sarcasm, sort of, kind of. What I'm right, it's not sarcasm. But so when I'm in jest, right? And he actually did. That is what made it worse. All of the things that have been happening after the fact, all of the Drake fans,

pages who still can't get over the fact that he just lost a rap battle. So they're constantly digging up stuff, constantly trying to find stuff, constantly trying to, you know, rewrite history just because your guy lost a rap battle. Drake kept this going in a way that we've never seen before. None of us in that. We've never seen somebody sue after losing a rap battle. That's what makes this scene nastier than what it is. Like, we've seen people get called wild things in rap battles before. Like, like, we've seen people say, I fucked your baby, mom, and this person fucked your wife. And we've seen all of that before.

We've never seen nobody sued. That's true. Drake made it worse. Drake and Kendrick battle is not only the greatest rap battle of all time. It's the most unique rap battle of all time. We never saw anything like this. We never saw somebody like Kendrick. Who said it earlier, to the victor go to the world as well?

You said that, Chris. We've never seen anybody get a victory lap like Kendrick. Grammy Awards for a disc record. Super Bowl halftime show because he had such a monster year. Followed up his disc record with an album, GNX that was critically acclaimed and commercially successful. Go on tour around the world with the biggest R&B artists and fucking perform these records everywhere.

Kendrick spiked the football a million different times. We never saw any. like this guy. And like Jay can't even compare this battle to anything. There's no comparison for this. And I know we're talking about the tech. And that's the other thing. He didn't acknowledge the artist in this other than to say, yo, you know, you might like this song. You might like that song. Both of these guys went to hell on each other. You got one guy calling one dude a woman beater and saying that his wife is one of the kids, his best friends. And you got Kendrick saying he's a pedipot. Like it was it was nasty.

like rap battles are, but it was everything that happened after the battle that made this the most unique rap battle level. So you can't say you don't want to see battles anymore just because of this situation because this is never going to happen again.

This is never going to happen again. Even when not, think about it, of course, something like this will happen again. Come on. I don't know. And I'll take it because of the players. This is an improvement in some way. Yeah, that's a player. The biggest rap battle is Tupac versus Biggie.

You saw how that ended. Yeah. Tupac versus Biggie was the last time in my mind. But you can't even say that because Biggie didn't engage. It was the... Biggie didn't engage.

He said that that wasn't supposed to... He didn't engage. Who shot you as a sublimat. Everybody says who shot you was recorded way before. Exactly. I don't know. But my point is Biggie didn't really engage directly, but as far as artist-wise,

man, Pac was a way bigger artist and Bigel. I know it don't seem like that. No, he was. No, he was. No, he was. was a way bigger artist and big. At the time when Jay's and Nas went at each other,

Jay was a way bigger artist than Nas, y'all. When Drake went at Meek, Drake was a way bigger artist than Meek. So it was easier for those battles just to keep moving because there's nothing but upside. Nas, you win with Etha, right? Even though I think takeover is a better song, but Nas, you win with Etha.

So it's nothing but upside for you, right? Sadly, Pac and Biggie got killed. The smaller guy always has the upside. Meek never... What are you saying? I'm just saying. He could have just kept doing music, but for some reason, he didn't. Like, something was just off after the battle.

You know what I mean? And he really, I mean, honestly, he didn't really recover. Yeah. He was green. Maybe he made a lot of money, though. He kind of recovered when he got with Nikki and then it fell off again. No, they brought up right after that. I know, but he had a, he was, like, having songs out and everything.

You know what it was with Meek, man? Meek's Achilles Hill, to me, was actually Twitter. Yeah, for sure And when Drake When Drake called him Twitter fingers No, what do you say? What was it? It was Twitter finger.

Yeah, Twitter fingers. When he called him Twitter fingers Trigger fingers turned a Twitter fingers. Twitter fingers. Twitter fingers. And it's just like every time Meek tweets, even now to this day.

It's crazy. It's pure energy. And I'm like, I fuck with Meek. You know what I'm saying? Like I think Meek does a lot for his community. You know, he's been a great, you know, symbol for the city of Philly.

I love what he does with reform, but I probably would have deleted my Twitter after Twitter fingers, y'all. And just flooded the streets with nothing but music. You're forgetting the deep stuff to. Guys, guys, guys, we're insane to talk every week. What? We're insane to talk every week. But we're podcasts.

But we're podcasts. Twitter, only Elon makes money. Hmm. You know what I mean? You could do the same talking and tweeting you could do in bars. You could just rap. You could just do it. it's a kind of crazy thing that people are actively still talking.

Yeah, man. At that level. Meek should have double, tripled down on just rap. Just rap. Because he's nice. Like, just flood the screech with music. Let social media talk. Let them be crazy.

And you get off Twitter. Just give them music and, you know, keep doing your community work. You created a song also that, like, Philly will play for decades. Oh, my God. Like, they'll play that literally for decades. Dreams is. Nightmares is like PSA level at this point. Yeah, I imagine for Philly. No, for the world. No, of course the world, but also the world also has PSA. Like the way that, but we've seen,

if you've seen, I've seen Dreams and Nightmare than another country. It's the same. No, no, I'm not trying to knock it. I'm just trying to say like the emotional connection we have for PSA, right? I'm sure Philly probably loves PSA too. And then they get dreams and nightmares. And if you have to ask them what we're going to come out to, what we're going to start with, and Philly, they're going to go dreams. Taylor doing that shit at her wedding. What we do is wrong. I'm playing freeway.

I know freeway. First of all I know freeway. Listen, there's three things you were here to silly wedding. Dreams and nightmares. Freeway, what we do is wrong. And freaking no better love from the young guns. Who can make Joe's got to? Every time I step in the booth.

They already told me. Tell us that she's walking out with her dad to do-dun-dun-doo. Y'all ready? You're not playing a Beanie Siegel? The most popular tourist rapper. She was rapping. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm afraid from around like this to Sharon like this. She told me that. She's walking out to dreams and nightmares at her way. You got to do that. That's the most silly shit ever. When you're going to do, you can't play what we do is wrong. But we do this. You got to be married.

No, I wasn't going to play that one. It's going to be, um. Oh, you said when you threw the bouquet, we're going to do what we do is wrong. Shut up. All I'm simply saying is, just to go back to the point. It's all about how you handle a loss after a race. after a rat beef. But the reason I say

this situation is unique. Taylor's going to catch her own bouquet to stay married. She might. She might. No, I'm going to play Flipside.

That's what I'm going to play. Oh, Flipside is fire for another Philly classic. But the reason this beef was unique is because Kendrick and Drake were literally the two top artists of their generation. They're huge.

Like, they're massive. There was no underdog in this battle. I know that y'all want to think Drake is such a bigger artist And this is a great point because we remember hip hop being so massive at the time, but it wasn't close to the level it is right now. Not at all. You're looking at the two biggest figures in a genre of music for the last 15 years.

It is at its pinnacle. Yes. Right? It's at its zenith globally. Yeah, you're right. So this might not happen again. It's a never happened again. In order for it to happen again, hip hop has to be ubiquitously the most popular music across the planet

and the two biggest guys have to beef with each of that's a hard thing and not only the two biggest guys status wise actually dope emce yeah they're nice regardless of how I may feel about the half of Caucasian

Aubrey Graham he's nice he's nice when he wraps he's nice okay he's not Kendrick but he's nice to some people to some people he's Kendrick you gotta understand like people

in the way that you don't fuck with or the way that the M&M's music might not touch you. Yeah. Like. But they went head up, Shultz. If you and another comedian go head up and you watch them with jokes, you know, Shultz is the guy.

But what I would say is in comedy, there are going to be some people who are just like, you know what, I like clean comedy, this makes me feel uncomfortable, so I like that. But what happened that night? We all know. What happened that weekend? Who's the nicest biracial comic? What the fuck is this, Chris? Because we were talking before the show.

Why? Why such a hard left? Because before the show, we were saying who's the greatest biracial comic. The greatest biracial comedian? Give me the greatest biracial comedians. Why did you start talking about comedians? Who's the greatest biracial, energy, I don't even know who the biracial comedians are. Kramer, crameter, biracial comedians.

That's funny. Is he not biracial? Well, he still said it all. Why was he saying? He should have said half of it. When you're by racial, you can only say half. Which half? Really, you should say the gir.

Yeah, you got to be a tiger. If you present his white, you better be a tiger. You got to be a tiger. If you just sit his white, you better be a tiger. If you're present in black, you can say the first part. The first part. But if you're white, if you're a, if you're biracial, like logic can only do-gr.

You know what I'm saying? You aren't half-white and black? Say again. Key and Peel, are they half-white? Who? But not stand-ups. Brilliant sketch comedians, but not traditional stand-ups. Who's half-white?

Key and Peel, aren't they? I don't know. I know. Yeah, I think they're both. That's crazy if both of their parents, if they're both by ratio. I think so, right? Really.

I'm saying. Oh, so collectively they can say it. together. But yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, Jay-Z shouldn't base his opinion on battling off this battle. This is, this was different. You know what I'm saying? And, and, and,

and when you talk about, so, OG is different. Like, he got perspective on life now. He's looking back at things and going, uh, sure. I think he's also reflecting on him and Nas. And he's like, bam, I think he regrets that. Him and not, him and Nas were able to move on because they simply moved on.

Yeah, but I'm saying, he regrets that. battle. We don't. It was great. Oh, yeah. We don't. By the way, that's the best case scenario. Kendrick.

The best case scenario is you spar. Y'all go at it. Y'all might not like each other for a while, but then at some point, y'all piece it up. Yeah. Do you think if they had social media back then, it would have... Somebody would have died. If they had social media back then, Jay-Z would have been the recipient of all the means. Because now I said all of the funny shit in this shit.

And I know him you wrong, Jay said some dope, slick shit in Tago. I think Tago was a better record. but you know they would have been camel memes you know what I'm saying it'd have been J would ask actual rat whiskers like it'd have been crazy back then yeah but skididding in your baby seat that was yeah that was horrible

not Rockfellas chains like there would have been like Eva had probably more being made up that's what I'm asking I don't think yes no this is a great this is a great argument what are you making up based on what the other person

says or are you making up based on what the audiences are making you feel. Ooh. And I think that's what you're getting at. It's like sometimes the internet is like the schoolyard where everybody else is going, ooh, he said that. And you're really reacting to what the school yard is doing, not to what the person is saying.

Yeah. So, yeah, that's a good point. The reality is, you know, Park and Biggie aren't alive anymore, but they said things that stuck forever. Yeah. Like we're talking, people are still debating Tupac sleeping with Biggie's wife right now. That's crazy.

Meter is literally a verb people use when somebody gets washed in the street. Like, you know what I'm saying? And the same thing with Kendrick and motherfucking Drake. I'm sure Drake has been places and heard say, oh, me-ho. Like, I'm sure he's gotten that so many times. Like, I'm sure that shit sticks. Just like Twitter finger stuff to meek. So in great rap battles, there's going to be things that stick.

But the artists have to learn to move on. If the artists move on, so will the fans. The only reason people haven't moved on in this situation is because of Drake. I'm telling you, if Drake hadn't a suit and made this an issue and all of that other shit, it'd have been gone. But Drake wasn't sitting around, you know, talking to his influencer friends and, you know, telling them things and they get on podcasts and on their screams and talk about it. Like, nothing. It would have been gone already. But that's the thing.

That's what the internet does. There's a place for it. And the battle is. But the battle is one on the internet kind of between the stand communities, not really between the artists. What if the artists would already went out? What if Drake would have changed the temperature already?

You put out the party next door album, right? What if you did? What if Iceman might change the temperature. Unless he's still rapping about this shit. We heard snippets from the motherfucker and he's still throwing shot. Like, let the shit go. If you move on, so will the audience. What?

Did you make the joke about like what timing for him? Like during ICE in America, he's putting out an hour? No, that wasn't. I saw that, though. Yeah. I mean, bro. Yeah, that was great. It's not even that, though.

Iceman is a gay superhero. Bobby Drake is a gay superhero. He must be gay. Man, shut up. I got a Wolverine tattooed on my arm. Bet you, you want to bet your mouth? No, I know, I know, because if you're so sure, bet your mouth.

Google Bobby Drake. Should read the comics. Google Bobby Drake. He wasn't gay. Gay superhero. Yo, bet your mouth is insane. Bobby Drake is a gay, Iceman is a gay superhero, guys. Wasn't he with Rogue?

Him and Rogue were dating. Bro, I'm just telling you what the fuck is going on, okay? All right. Bobby Drake got a boyfriend in the comic book. Bobby Drake is canically gay in Marvel Comics community I'm looking this up The character was outed in 2015

by his youngest self via Gene Gray and all new X-Men number 40 While historically portrayed as heterosexual writers hinted at his sexuality earlier and the revelation allowed him to step out of the closet Bobby Drake Canning Gay Bobby Drake

He's gonna have to explain that Now see that and by the way That's some That's that's That's worse than putting out of album With the Ice Age I hate it And now he just put that into the air and now everybody going to...

Whoever interview him has to ask that question. That's got to be wondering, why would you name your album Iceman after Bobby Drake, who came out is gay? Are you trying to tell us something, Drake? Yeah, that's a little bit. That's just an obvious question in the interview. I mean, you know, I don't interview people often. But if I was interviewing somebody...

How is he interviewed people often? It's crazy. I don't really have any experience in the interviewing game. But if I was interviewing somebody who comes out with an hour, called Iceman and his name is Drake and the character Bobby Drake from Marvel comics was a hetero was known as heterosexual but decided to come out as gay I need to ask some questions about that because I would put my hand on his shoulder and say you don't have to do this okay there's other ways to get people talking about other

things right okay that's all I'm simply saying does it make the beef a hate crime Damn! Oh, damn. Maybe that's what he's going for. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Maybe that's what he's going for. Because not like us takes on a whole new meaning.

You know what I'm saying? When it's coming from a heterosexual perspective to a potential homosexual, I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. This is crazy. All I'm saying, guys. You're going to stop, Jay. Iceman on the way.

All right. Iceman on the way. This guy. He's having too much fun, bro. I know. You're done in bottles. Let me tell you something. Charlemagne with fuck you money is a problem.

It's a problem. It's like a dictator to have been in power too long. You know what I mean? Like, nothing matters. Nothing matters. I just feel like I'm just saying some comments. You're free. You're free, bro.

I feel like I'm saying some comments. You're liberated, bro. Let me ask your question. Nobody could hurt you anymore. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. I feel like the question you can ask me is just you talking. After knowing.

I feel like you're not even going to ask me a question. After knowing this information that Iceman Bobby Drake is gay and Marvel Comics. Yeah, yeah. And Drake is naming his album, that. Don't you want to know why he named his album Iceman? Yeah. How could we haven't seen the Iceman movie? Yeah, shit.

Go on fucking Netflix and type in gay rom-coms and see what comes up. No, there's a TV show about it. It's called Heated Rivalry. It's good. Come on. That's what I do, guys. That's what I do. Don't try this at home.

He's a professional. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some bills. You got some church announcements. Hasa Kyle Walker. Yes, sir. This week I'll be in Rhode Island. And then I got that show with Jim.

for the Netflix is a joke fest coming up. I believe that's in May. And then I got a show in Halifax, Nova Scotia this summer. And then I think I'm going to add a few different, I think I'm going to add a few different clubs like I did this last weekend in Nashville to kind of like start carving out what this next hour is going to be. And that was like a, that was a fun experience. So I want to get back out there.

So I think I'll be announcing that in the near future. You going to be in Providence? I'll be in Providence this weekend, for sure. Man, go to Erie Gautilus Biscuit, man. Yeah? I was there a couple of weeks ago, slew to Ery Garlous Biscuits. I loved that place. I went there twice when I was there that weekend.

Why were you in Providence? My daughter's Shilling Competition. But, yeah, I went to Eerie Garlous Biscuit twice, bro. Really? Oh, my God. The chicken maple biscuit with no cheese and egg. Oh, that place is so good, bro. Erie Gaudelis Biscuit.

A small little spot, but you should pop in there, man. I'm going to go check it out. If you like biscuits. I love who doesn't like biscuits But it's just so like I'm 42 bro I'm not trying to blow the fuck up I just do one

It's just chicken maple sauce We get fat bro That's what it is It's just bread at this age We're not that's true You don't get to eat bread anymore I went to Jersey mics yesterday And had a

I had wheat bread And I just had the regular It don't even matter It don't matter I felt so fat last night Rye sourdough It's all the same Fuck out of here

You're gonna be fat for a week Can't fuck with the bread. Now you're right. This guy just had a bowl of cinnamon toast crunch. What? This guy's fucking crazy. Why do you hate your life? Fucking crazy.

I was asleep. Hold on that. Stamintosh crunch is good. No, no, it's good. There's difference between it being good and like, will it stay on our body for a week? Man. Here's the thing. But you know what, Alex, you're actually eating cinnamon toast crunch the way you should.

Which is? As a snack. Yeah. You've been fucking up eating that cereal for breakfast. That shit is a snack, bro. So you know what's crazy is that? They would feed us fucking cookie crisp, cinnamon toast crunch, cocoa pebbles at 7.30, and then expect us to sit down and pay attention at elementary school.

How are you trying to put us on Ritalin? Tell us we got ADHD, but you gave us all that sugar first thing in the fucking morning. So now you got every kid on fucking Ritalin because you're popping us full of sugar in the morning. I got the nerve to be mad at me because I'm pulling fire alarms just to right outside the fucking science room. You're giving me a line of blow. You're giving a 12-year-old a line of coke and then asking him to learn fucking geography. Telling me to sit still. What got to your sit still?

I'm not even control of my little adolescent body and you're giving me all this sugar but I got to just sit here. What the fuck? That's not right. How many times did you pull the fire? Every time.

I pulled it twice. That's it. Yeah, twice. You know, I pulled the fire alarm at the Charleston Museum one time. When I was a kid. What does the Charleston Museum have in it? Back in the day, they had like the dinosaur

So it was a museum. But it wasn't, I didn't even pull the alarm. I opened the emergency exit door. Like the door, they tell you not to open. Because I swore that that's where they was hiding the good shit. The good one. I remember that shit like, oh my gosh. Because, you know, I'm looking at the dinosaur fossils and everything.

And I'm asking questions. I was, you know, I don't remember how old I was. I got to ask my mom how old I was. And they was like, don't, you know, I saw the door and the door said, do not open. And my brain just was like, why? You can't break things. And not open that fucking goal. What's back there?

What's back there? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I know it's some good shit back there. I opened that shit, set the whole alarm off at the motherfucking museum. But did you find something? No. I don't remember.

I just know we had to evacuate. Everybody had to get the fuck out the museum. Wait a minute. You're saying that the museum wasn't hiding the good shit? I didn't even go past the door. You know what I'm saying? Funny idea. Like the museum, which is there to show you shit, is like, no, we can't go all this.

They probably got the good shit in the back. Like what? I don't know. I don't know if I believe in dinosaurs anymore. Did you watch some working Freeman movie? What? What? Why?

You believe everything. You have bones of things. No, no. Yeah, but they can't have, I don't believe. But this is not. They don't show us that shit no more. What the last time you see dinosaur fossils, you know? I don't believe.

None of y'all believe dinosaurs look the way they looked, right? Yeah, no. I think they looked a little. Or even their sound. They still were big. They're just chickens, right? It's big chickens. It's big birds.

That's what it is. Did you watch it? What? The Morgan Freeman. He's not a dinosaur. He's just an old guy. That's disrespectful. Why is he doing it?

Why would you say that about somebody that could be your grandfather? He's not even... I don't even know why you would do that. Don't say that he would be her grandfather. That was hellbound. You hellbound. Hells crazy. You are hellbound.

You are hellbound. You need to get on your knees and repent for that one. What are you talking about? No, bet your mouth. Man. That's your mouth is insane. That is crazy. You invented that?

Crazy. Bet your mouth. You invented that? Yes. I've been betting my mouth on this podcast for years. Son, we have. Yo, it's crazy, bro. What is going on here?

It's insane. Every now and then I still get a tweet that be like, yo, you still old six nine top, yo. Yo! You bet your mouth first. But I don't care. I said it. Yeah, because this is what y'all don't understand.

I said this thing. Yeah, but you got to understand. He can't really collect it. One day you're going to bet your mouth on someone who could collect not. Yeah. I don't bet. I bet other mouths. Oh, church announcements.

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You know why he thought about that? Because he was betting mouths in Atlanta. I don't think Atlanta's as gay as it used to be. I don't think so either. Why'd you throw gay out there? What? That's what it was.

At one point, I think Atlanta might have been the gay city in America. You could bet mouth for anything. No, that's not the right bet. But you could bet mouth for a guy to girl. Who would bet that? Who would want that? Can I just say. Nice bet.

It's a good bet. It's a win-win. Nah, no, no, no, no, no. What? You know the bet I want. What's a bet you want? you're going to suck Bobby Drake's popsicle Oh, come on

It's a fox It's free stick You're going to suck Bobby Drake's free stick What What Taylor? What Taylor? Um I was going to say with the Black Effect

I will be out there too Doing Man on the Street Hey Little Taylor gang Mama T What are you going to be asking people I don't know I haven't decided But it's going to be

You're going to bring your little tiny mic I should But I feel like I'm about to advance To this other camera But also, I haven't made the announcement yet of what it is, but I have an event coming in May, so stay tuned. Taylor. You got to try to promote Taylor, what just happened? Exactly.

What? Taylor, we need to know what just happened. You have an event, you know what I'm saying? You got to say something like Iceman on the way. Like, you know what I'm saying? Okay, I'm having an entrepreneurial event. So stay tuned for more details. Oh, can you give us some details?

I'm curious about this. Don't worry. Taylor, if you don't have it together yet, don't worry. It's a nice tease. No, I mean, it's coming together, but we haven't, like, made the announcement yet, remember? Okay. Well, we will be there to support.

Yes, I don't know yet. I've got to see what it is. I've got to hear more. I need more details. When is it going to be? It's going to be people there let you know. When is it going to be? Huh?

It's going to be in May. In May, okay. If you haven't heard, I have a new show. It's called A.M. Mornings. Check me out every Sunday live at 11 a.m. Eastern. It's a live calling show.

I want to hear from you guys. So yeah, that's A.m. mornings on YouTube. See you guys there. Okay, well, black effect.com slash podcast festival, get your tickets. Damn, there's something else I wanted to talk about it. Maybe it'll come back to me. What else we got Taylor gang? Oh, NASCAR, man, salute to NASCAR.

I had a great time. I saw you out there. Man, I had a great time, man. I was at Darlington Raceway for the O'Reilly. Oh, what's the race called? The O'Reilly. Hold on. Let me get the name of the race right, man.

Race? O'Reilly O'Reilly I mean that is them They sponsored it Yeah O'Reilly Auto Part Series Wow

My guy Roger Caruth Raja Carruth Any relation to Ray? No, I asked him that And what do you say? No, they're not related But I had Do you sponsor his car?

I sponsored his car I sponsored his car For that for that event Roger is an up-and-coming star NASCAR He's only the third Black Drive to win like a NASCAR series.

Let me get Roger's stats. Let me get Roger's information right, because I want y'all to look up Roger Kroof. And we're gonna have, I said that because we're gonna have the NASCAR race stimulator. Simulator. Simulator. Jesus, I'm sorry.

Just fucking God. We're gonna have, yeah, he's the third black driver to win a NASCAR national touring series race following Windell Scott and Bubba Wallace. But we're gonna have the race car simulator at the Black Effect podcast special, because you know, that's how Roger learned to drive. I actually, he blew up

because he's the only driver to get pulled over during a race. Did you know that? Taylor, what else is he? Did you not see that race? I didn't see that race. That was crazy. I didn't even, I couldn't believe it.

I didn't see that one. I couldn't believe it, Charlotte. That Black Effect car looked fire, though. Did it? Oh, my God. Dude. Oh, let's do this one. La Russell?

Yeah. controversial song, Heavenson. We never spoke about this. Are you up on La Russell? I love this kid for a while, dude. It's my guy. I think this, and it's like, this is a very tricky one, obviously,

but this guy's fantastic. This guy is fantastic. Did you buy his album? How many? He's got 30 out. Well, no, he just released one kind of on his own, and his goal was to sell like 100,000 copies.

No, he's released 30 albums on his... This last one, the goal was to sell 100,000 copies and people were... you know, crying something for it. Did I? I don't know. I had them on Burf's Club.

I don't know if I did. I really can't remember if I did or not. I believe I did. Like La Russell's my guy. Hovane put me on the La Russell. God bless the dead. Hovane was managing La Russell at the time. And Hovane,

I remember when, it was like 2021. And I was in South Carolina for the summer, not for the summer, but it's like Fourth of July or something. And Hovane texted me. He was like,

Yo, listen to that freestyle I sent you. And I was like, bet. But I didn't listen to it. He texted me. He was like, you didn't listen to that freestyle last century because he knew if I heard it I'd be like this dude is amazing

and that's literally what I thought I'm like yo this guy is amazing and you know he's went on to create such a great lane for himself independent now he signed to rock nation and they're upset with him because he said it says a Hollywood unlock says

rapper La Russell doubles down on lyrics claiming Adolf Hitler Donald Trump Jeffrey Epstein where heaven sent then deactivates accounts after intensified backlash This is a tricky one because I'd be curious to ask, and I imagine he's a God-fearing man. I don't know his background, but if he is a devout Christian, what he's saying is that these people, who he knows have committed heinous acts are also heaven-sent, right?

That's what he's saying, right? That's what his claim is. I'd be hard-pressed to find a religious figure that wouldn't say the same thing about. not heaven sent I mean aren't we isn't every but isn't the point that he's trying to make

his sin also has a connotation yeah heaven sent me and this is what's very important when I listen to I listen to the song am I doing the thing where I'm defending the wrong thing no no no you're not

you're not you're not you're not you're not you're not what you're doing is you're understanding the context of something I'm just trying to understand somebody who I've followed and I thought it was like really talented but you see the internet piling on him and I see that what he said

and how controversial it is, but maybe given like the amount of stuff I've watched them do, I'm like, I don't see this guy is trying to go, hey, these guys are okay. You understand the context. Yeah. If you actually listen to the song and you heard his explanation afterwards, I understood the context. What he messed up is using the words heaven sent, because heaven sent means something that feels

like it was sent by God or a higher power to help you, bless you, or save you at the right moment. Now, what the Russell is simply saying is that God created, God created all the things. I mean, the reality is he did. Like, what is it? Yeah, Isaiah 457. I formed the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things. So let me ask a question. So, let me ask a question. Yo, Satan was created in heaven. He's a fallen agent. Satan is heaven sent. No. I don't know. He's since when in music or art do we have to use the exact definition of a word or else it is interpreted in the worst possible. Because the internet. No, no.

Because the people's words matter. So there's two different things. I don't think anybody, I doubt, I don't want to speak for anybody. But like me, the way I'm looking at this is the reason he's saying it and it's such a provocative thing to say, the reason he even goes, hey, my engineer told me not to put this out,

he's prefacing you with, hey, I'm going to say something that I know is going to sound horribly wrong. But these people are human beings, horrible things that they've done, heinous, the worst of the worst, but they are also human beings. Now, I don't know what he means by that. I don't know if he thinks that they shouldn't be punished. Maybe he thinks they'll receive the ultimate punishment from God for what they've done. But who else created them if not God?

But that's a different conversation. I agree. That's what I thought he was trying to say. That was the context of what he was saying. Once again, Isaiah 45-7, I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil. I, the Lord, do all these things. Once again, Satan was created in heaven. I just don't think that they're heaven sent.

Like, Satan was a fallen angel. You know, a better question? Because, you know, La Russell, we can agree to heaven sent thing was wrong. But we do know that, you know, God did create all of these entities, right? The better question is, could they repent for their sins? That's tough. Now, if you're a Christian and you have to believe that everybody can repent for, for their sins. Could those individuals he named repent? I don't know. I'm just asking.

No. They should be able to. Because they got this hell, right? They should be. God. There's hell. I don't even know what repent for your sins means. Yeah, because I don't want to hear that shit. We're asking forgiveness. Yeah. And change behavior. Hitler changed behavior? That's what I'm saying. You can't, but that's my point. And I think that's what you're saying too, Chris. Like, could, could Hitler have been a born again Christian? Could Epstein have been a born again Christian? Like, hell no. We're like, with the Bible just talk about hell. Now, I don't believe, I don't, I don't, I don't be saying, you know, such as such is going to hell. I don't believe that I'm, I don't have the moral authority

to say some shit like that. But if based on scripture, this is where it gets tricky, them guys are burning in flames. You would hope? Eternal damn nation. You would hope? That's all I'm saying. Yeah. But that's not really think there's a hell, honestly. I don't know. I don't. I think you live in it. Yeah, I do too.

But again, I don't know. But like, I think that you live in your hell. You could also live in your heaven. I think heaven is what you make it and hell is what you go through to get there. Yeah, I think that works too. But also, like, if you're living a sinning life, like, yeah, there's some sociopaths out there that just don't feel and they have competitive advantage because they just don't feel that empathy towards other people. But for people who do feel empathy and they're doing fucked up shit all the time and say, yeah, they're living in hell. They're miserable.

Oh, yeah. They're fucking miserable. Absolutely. I see it in their eyes on YouTube every day. But listen, none of y'all answered the question. And that's how you know. What was the question? Could those people repent and become born again?

I don't think so either. Well, according to whom? To Chris, no. I don't believe in the concept of the general. I don't, I don't, I personally don't think of them. I don't have the forgiveness that Christ got. That's why he's. Christ and that's why we're humans.

But God, Christ, they gave us rules, man. Like really specific rules. And some people, some people overstep a little bit and some people be like, fuck it, Satan. You are king. There are people I don't forgive and they don't even know it. If God made man in his image according to his likeness, you don't forgive often. I'm just saying, I don't, I just don't think, I just don't think.

I want to get better at it. powerful though. Forgiveness is powerful. I think that... So should we forgive La Russell for this? Absolutely. Just a bad choice of words. He said, you have the interview. But the bad thing is that... I did see it with Gina Vuees and DJ Hey, my people. He kind of doubled down and he didn't do what

Schultz just did. Shultz was like, oh, I misunderstood the meaning of that word. If he would have just said that, because I do think he's trying to say the same thing, oh, these are all God's children, but by using the word heaven sent implies that these people that did positive things. He would have just admitted, oh, shit, I misspoke.

That's all he said. But does anybody actually believe that La Russell thinks that they did positive things, those three people that you mentioned? No. But that's why words matter. Heaven sent literally means something or someone that feels like it was sent by God are a higher power to help you, bless you, or save you at the right moment. The literal idea, heaven equals God, divine source, sent equals delivered to you.

So it literally means sent from heaven. for a purpose. That's a tough. Why? What you mean? I mean, this is like when you see a NBA game or a college game and after the game they ask the player on the winning team, you know, anything. Oh, I want to thank God for, you know, oh, God wanted to determine the outcome of a second round NCAA game. But see, I disagree with that. Chris.

That's not going to think about it. I don't think those players are thanking God for winning. I think they're thanking God for just being able to defend. finish the game, healthy, not getting hurt. But that implies God made the decision that this player shouldn't get hurt. No, man. When Carrie Irvin got hurt, Kyrie Irvin was on the free throw line. Carrierman said, thank you, God.

For what? Because Kyrie Irvin is a person that believes things don't happen to you, they happen for you. And that's actually a dope mindset. That's how my brain works. I don't believe in so-called good or so-called bad. I believe everything is just part of a process. And, yo, and I think I'm supposed to- But what's the other side of that coin is what I'm saying.

Yeah. What's your man? I agree with, what you mean what's the other side of the coin? Okay, a kid's going to die of cancer. I've heard this take. I've heard this take. So what's the answer? I think that if you believe in God, you've got to believe in God through it all.

Yeah, okay. No, I think that, like, I've heard this take, and this is like the classic atheist take and the criticisms of the all-powerful God who was, you know, dictating destiny where it's like, okay, a kid dies of cancer and you're like, why would God want to do that? Yes, I've heard that. I think what happens here is, like, you have a choice in life to decide that the things that happen to you, happened to you because you're smited, happened to you for no real reason at all, or happen to you because they're preparing you for some other better outcome in the future.

And the one that probably gives you the most joy is going, hey, I'm going through this really tough time right now, and I need to figure out what this is, why this is happening to me, and why it's going to help me ultimately get to this amazingly beautiful time. Because it's really easy to wallow in your sadness and go, woe is me, and why does everything It can offer you resiliency. So whether it's a belief that you truly have and you believe in God and God is there for you or whether you are choosing to take a positive mindset into an incredibly negative situation, there's one direction you can go that potentially makes you happy and there's one direction you can go that justifies all your sadness.

And I think it's harder to be positive in those negative times. You know, we need just one time. Just one time we need some people to go live from the other side. And just remind us? Just to show us, right? Like there might be people that we'd be like, dang, why would God allow that to happen? And then we go on the other side.

And they're like, yo, life is lit over here. My God, God needed me on this side. And I'm doing my thing. This is amazing. Well, then you need some people to go live from eternal damnation, too, to be like, please, kids, change your mind. That would be the beyond scared straight. of the century, forget the prisons.

Yeah. Show us what happens if you really in hell. Boy, if we knew hell really existed. Oh, man. Man. You worried about prison. By the way, I would respect, I would respect all the evil people then. Oh, if you saw that and then double that.

Oh. Because if you knew how- They're about that right. That's the ultimate scared straight. Oh, that'd be the greatest. Show me hell. Showing me hell would change so many people's lives. overnight. But then there's no point of faith.

Yeah, there's no faith. No, that's not true. Well, you don't need faith if you got proof. But still, you, you, I think, man, you actually have something stronger than faith. Complete submission. If you're, complete submission. If you knew there was a hell, right? And you knew there was a heaven. It wouldn't even be a, you're like, yo, no, I don't know about y'all, but I'm going to get baptized. I'm over here. You know, all praises due to God. Like I, by the way, faith is great. But man, submission, ultimate submission. But in 300,000, 500,000 years of human history,

however long we've been here. Wouldn't God just let us get a little 10-second clip? I think he does. When? All the time. I think we don't pay attention to the signs. I don't know about y'all, but I know when my life is going great

because I'm actually doing the right things and when my life is going bad because I'm not. That's why it's certain things. and over the last decade, whatever, throw anything at me. I know I'm living righteous. You know what I'm saying? But prior to that,

I know I ain't doing right by my way. You know what I mean? So instead of this fucked up shit that happened, I'm like, fuck, man. I cause that to happen. But when I start moving the way I know that I'm supposed to move and I'm out here living righteously

and doing right by my wife, I don't give a fuck. What happens? I know that's not my energy. So that's just something that God wants me to go through for the moment and I learned from it to keep it moving. She's sucking your teeth. What happens

is when you be like making fun of people and everything? Don't listen to the devil, y'all. You see how to, you see how to this is what I want you. Don't listen to the devil. You see how you see it, I was the devil over. You hear the devil in the corner. The devil just sucked his teeth because I said if I do right by God, my life goes great. But when I do the wrong thing, it goes bad. And you have the devil suck his teeth like, get back.

out here and get on these holes, niggins. You know what? Not, wait, you know what? We're not going to have to be a P, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to be honest with you. You know, it took me a while my first couple of years to get it together.

So, you know, I want to get some shit. Do your thing, bro. Oh, shit. And see, yeah, now you got the fucking. First of all, exactly. It's very clear. My fiance is not going to be given to the devil like how you did.

So. He married to him. He just be proposed. He proposed. I am no doubt. Keep from folks. And that's the case and why can be in your corner then? Oh.

Keep your friends close. Listen, you can't have light without darkness. You got to keep a little bit of darkness around just so you know what light looks light. Let's pay some bills and do some African idiots, mate. I want to add one more thing about the La Russell thing before we put a button on it. You know, is this bad to talk about this? is just like, no, no, no, I think it's good.

I think it's good. The ill thing about the La Russell thing, though, is that your guy's hesitancy to defend him makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't think it's the... La Russell, my guy, I ain't going to... I don't, you know, I roll my people. I don't think it's the defense.

He was, his wording was wrong. He shouldn't have said heaven's sin, but his sentiment, right, when we're having these conversations about, you know, God creating these entities. It's kind of this, Another part of that energy is like, you know how when somebody dies, right? Like, somebody kills somebody in somebody's family.

You know, you see it oftentimes. You see these, I think about Dylan Roof at Emmanuel A&E when Dylan Roof, you know, killed all of those people in my hometown, Charleston, South Carolina. The family forgave him. All right, like, you see these situations happen other times where, like, the murderer will kill somebody in the family, and the family forgives the murderer. Now, listen, I don't know if the family truly feels like. that but their faith in their religion makes them do that and I think that's what you're seeing a lot of in La Russell's take as well it's rooted in like Christian religion which is these people were created by God too I'm not saying that's

right I'm not saying that's wrong I'm just saying that is the belief of a lot of people around this world that believe in Christian's yeah So I don't know. That's just my button on it. You want to do some bills? Let's do it. Before we do some asking idiots, I want to salute the Frazier Tharp too, man. That's who sat down with Jay Z and did the interview, Frasier Tharp.

He works for GQ magazine. I've seen his name before because I've read a couple of, a few of his articles actually prior. I read his clips feature before. He had this article about what was the future after the rap battle with Kendrick and Drake. He just, I mean, he's written some really good stuff. So salute to Frasier Tharp. I don't, I want, I want people to salute the person that was doing the interview.

You know what I mean? I don't know him personally, but I've seen his work before. He used to be on complex, right? I think so. Like, back in the day. I think he might have used to be on complex. Yeah. I know we said never do a podcast if you're famous.

But there is something fun about doing one like once a year. You know, like, for like a Jay-Z or for like any of these, like, big celebrities. There is something fun about like once a year just making a moment out of it. I mean, Jay's even better. This is this shit. This is once in what every, I can't even remember the last Jay Z interview? Jay Z. Was the last one with, um, Mighty? Come, nah, bro, you're not getting me. Ha. You're too excited.

No, it's too easy, though. Let's do some asking idiots, man. Wait. Are you on nervous? Oh, Taylor. Huh? Nervous about what? It says you can now listen to Army at 42. 47.

Alex, I'm not worried about that shit. Yeah. With your loose. Alex, Alex, Alex, Alex got a word. How old are you, Alex? Half a second. You always got me.

How old is you, Alex? 35. I'm 42. Shit. Oh, you'll be good. You'll be done, man. But they said April. Oh, shit.

This April. You got to October. I might be going. I'm going. We got to wrap this war up, bro. We got to wrap this war. They can't force people. I just don't understand how they get.

I always feel guilty not doing some sort of a service. I'm going to say I'm good. I think America, they don't understand their citizens in 2026. Everybody going to be like Muhammad Ali in 2006. Oh, yeah. By the way, not because of any reasons that Muhammad Ali did, just because we lazy as a motherfucker. Not even that. There's nobody going to no fucking war.

You gotta tell us why are we there first. Stay not going. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Send ice out the airport. Yo, low-kid. Send ice to go fight. Yeah, bring TSA back.

Bring TSA back. Have you seen the videos and not even doing nothing? They're deployed? I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea. But the draft is not going to work in America in 2020. Not for this war.

Not for this war. I don't think it will work for any war. I think it depends. Like, I think if you... I should do it. They got it. This is America. Oh, you just said here.

Yes. I said America. I ain't say shit about Russia in China. America got too much freedom. They ain't giving that shit up to go to war. Brian underscore Rolia 710 says, struggle food that you still make for your kid or yourself still. Spaghetti sandwiches.

Ooh. That's crazy. That's fine. I don't think so either. I love spaghetti sandwiches, man. That's crazy. Some white bread. Oh, so white bread is amazing.

That is not. No one else knows about that, but you. Everyone else I said, like, they're so confused about it. My wife, you're making spaghetti now for the kids. I'd be so mad. Why would you make that shit and make me eat grilled chicken and broccoli and fucking sweet potatoes? You know what I'm saying? Like, why can't I have, can you make the pasta with some wheat maybe?

You know what I mean? Put a little turkey, ground beef instead of the beef. Can you think about the less fortunate in this fucking house for lunch? Right? Wait, but is it like? real pasta and you just put it between a sandwich? I'm also confused about it. You know, you make it like a, I make mine with one bread and then you just put.

Like a taco? Yeah. That's what I do. That's crazy. How? Pasta's bread. Yeah. You just have it bread on bread.

No, no. You're right. Yeah, so what? It's that struggle food that you still make for your kid or yourself still. So this is patent. I also, what is that struggle food? It's different textures. I don't think it's struggle food at all.

I'm just saying, this is back when we have. Why are you making it seem so crazy that is bread from... That was one of my favorite meals, bro. My mama makes spaghetti. And then I get corn. It's so good. My mama makes spaghetti with corn and just take the white bread. And you take the white bread and put the spaghetti in between the white bread and eat that shit like a fucking hot dog or a taco.

Do you have? Wait, African, do you have spaghetti with fish, fryfish? Because they do that in the country. Yeah, I definitely have. Gee Deb said that. Eat fish and spaghetti. What's a struggle food that you still make for your kid or yourself still, Andrew? dollar slices

Nah, struggle food is crazy Because I don't think it's struggle food But like I like cereal And I don't think it's struggle But like I'm a grown up And I'll eat cereal like it's like Listen, I get the candy Do you eat plain or do you eat with the milk?

No, I go milk I go a special kid with red berries But it's like I love it I love this I would have it for dinner I'll have it for any time I possibly can't But it's not struggle Like spaghetti sandwiches is struggle

No they're not Listen you know what's struggling not eating, okay? I don't like to call food, struggle food. If you got food, you got any food, you eat. Now, salute to Colleen with. Colleen has the show eating while broke on the black effect. She don't call it struggle, though.

She just calls it eating while broke. What was the things that you used to eat while you were broke? When you were broke. Yeah. So y'all would call peanut bread and jelly struggle food? No. That's a treat.

That's ice cream. Fire. Now, every now I did I got to indulge in a peanut butter jelly. Cereal is kind of a struggle food. if you're eating it multiple times a day. Yeah, or if you're not having it for breakfast. No, cereal is a snack. But I don't consider it struggle.

Me neither. What's the end? If you eat and that ain't a struggle. Yeah, yeah. Like when we're eating all these things, it's a choice. If you have to eat spaghetti and bread, that's a struggle. No, that's not. No, it's not.

You got spaghetti and bread. You're really making the spaghetti with the sauce. Spaghetti means you got the pasta, the brown meat, the sauce, whatever seasoning you put in it and you got bread that's a form a meal When y'all get pasta from, don't they give you bread So what's the problem? No, no, you're making sense in terms of like

You dip the bread into the sauce But then you eat the pasta, et cetera And you're just like mashing it together. I get it. But it's just crazy the idea to put like pasta on bread For some reason that's just weird. Struggle is like when you don't got nothing to eat in your house with ass What they used to do the bread syrup?

The syrup sandwiches or something like that? I never did it. But you have? I've never done that. Toast the bread. Yo, I remember when I was thinking about this the other day, yo, when I had the microwave, you know, when you first got microwaves back in the day and you would see the microwave when you come home from school and, you know, you didn't know how to cook, but the microwave

say French toast, 20 minutes or some shit like that. So you put toast in there for 20 minutes. Put a piece of bread in there for 20, 30 minutes. And then that shit would be all brink. Like, why the fuck this shit don't look like my mom? shit. Wow, you know you old, because you did the... Oh, yeah.

I just have to turn to my boy. I was born in 19 and 17. and you're proud of it. God damn it. Uncle underscore Andre said, as blacks, shouldn't we reward whites for good behavior like we do dogs and kids?

All right, bro. You don't reward people for what they're supposed to do. That's funny. And what is good behavior? Not being racist, I guess. That should be easy. That should be the easiest thing with some people to do.

But it's not for whatever reason. Yeah. Didn't Jack Harlow, wasn't he having good behavior? He didn't get rewarded. No, because it's there for my nigger. Jack going on tour. That's all of my knowledge is today. That's cool.

Ain't anybody want to see that shit. What did he do? I love Jack. What did he do? I want to see Jack sing, man. What did he do? Yo, has Jack, Jack ain't even, didn't know. Jack didn't do nothing else after that New York Times interview.

Jack got low. Oh, shit. Jack said, fuck it. You know what else Jack fucked up at? Stop, I should have never even. No, no, no, no, no. You know what else Jack fucked up at? Why, why, why?

And the Jay Z interview makes me think about it. Why? Did Jay Z sit down with GQ? Yes, but he sat down with Frasier Tharp or young black man. If you're a white artist, don't sit down with the two white guys. Don't sit down with two white guys. telling them you got blacker.

Does New York Times employ non-white people? I don't know. Well, my point is if you're going to dive into a black genre even deeper, you already do rap, but now you're going to do R&B. Go sit with the black people. Yo, but how great. I don't care what black platform you pick. Yo, you know what's interesting?

What black host you pick? Go sit with them. I wonder if it was two black people interviewing him. That would look crazy. And he said the same thing. He wouldn't have to do it. He wouldn't have to say. Oh, but what if it would have been funny.

It would have been funny. It would have been funny. That's right. And then it wouldn't have been this whole, like... You know where he should have went? I'm going to tell you fucked up, Jack. And I don't know if you're talking to the people that generation now. But if you were, I feel like drama and Lake would have directed you a little bit better.

You should have went to the R&B Money Podcast. Ooh. You should have sat with Tank and Jay Valentine. And if they said to him, they're like, yeah, your music got whatever. And he goes, I got blacker. And they started laughing. Don't you think that the internet just laughs at it? Yeah.

Listen, if he would have sat with Tank and J. Valentine with his rollout, by the fact, before the rollout, he should have sat with Tank and Jay Valentine and did a listening with Tank and J. Valentine on the R&B Money podcast. Tank and Jay Valentine are the R&B god, right? So even if they co-signed it a little bit, or they're saying this is cool, but you should have did this better or blah, blah, blah. It makes us receive the music totally different. And if you say that joke about, yo, you got blacker.

They laugh. Everybody keeps it moving. But no. You want to go sit with whites. Huh? That's what changed your mind about it? Would that have changed my mind about it? No, yeah.

No, my mind hasn't changed about the album is trash. But I'm saying, if he did that, narrative is important. Yo, narrative is important. Narrative makes you look at things with different perspectives. Yeah. So if he sits with the Army Money podcast, Tank and Jay Valentine create a different narrative around this album.

And if Tank and Jay Valentine just put it out there like, this shit is actually I. now my approach to it is different because I'm like I take a Jay Valentine set aside let me listen but if you listen with my neck in there I'm like this shit is trash

and listen if you don't like the album you might not like the album but maybe you would receive that comment in a very different light yeah Oscar B Savage on him says a life without anything that associates to sex

or a life without women a life without anything that associates to sex what does that mean I have no idea what the fuck Oscar B Savage on him I'm saying a life without anything that associates to sex That means that you're never going to have sex You're never going to get ahead or anything like that

Or a life without women I would take a life without anything that associates to sex And I tell you why But then you don't have sex at all But they're still women Yes Because here's the thing Oscar be savage on him I wouldn't miss the sex

Because I wouldn't even know what sex is A life without anything that associates the sex I don't even know what sex is So I don't even know what I'm missing. So give me my women. Give me the women, you know, just to sit around, kick it, have conversation with, laugh, joke. That's my life now.

So no sex, but there's women. And or, what's the other one? No women? Our life without women, no women. So there's still no sex. You also not know what women are? Well, if there's no women, it's just a bunch of guys sitting around. The earth don't even last much longer because we all going to die

because we can't procreate. And we don't know what sex is. No, no. You can't procreate. And you know what sex is. You can't procreate. Everybody else can. There's no women.

No, you got to be someone. Oh, bro. You really trying to be progressive, bro. You, what are you saying? What are you saying? What the fuck are you trying to tell us right now? What the fuck you mean? We can't procreate what you can.

What is just a bunch of men here? I'm heaven scent, bro. What the fuck? Yo, just let me be heaven sent, man. What are you trying to say, man? If y'all can pick the color of nails for Alex Me's, What color would you pick? Why?

Scrotum. Yeah, I think a nice scrotum brown would be good. Like a brown scrotum. Yeah. So they just disappear onto it. No, more like a sprotum by racial brown. Ooh. Yeah.

So like a light skin. Like Jake Hole nuts color. That's a good one for you. You don't think so? Ew. Like the color. We were talking about strode. Fighting, imagining it.

So I'm just saying the color of Jake hole. Yeah. like a nude, a nude. You know what I'm saying? That would be good for you. Why are you thinking about Jay Cole's nuts right now? I wasn't. You just did that.

You did. Should we be able to, go, go, go ahead, go ahead. Taps. Should we be able to tip TSA agents? Yes. Yes. No, 100%. Why are you saying no?

100%. Especially right now being anything not getting paid. That's got to be illegal. And then you want to get a bomb on this shit, you tip a CSA agent. No, man. He's saying that because the TSA agent. agents aren't getting aid.

Obviously, but... And you're not allowed to give them any tips, but the reality is they are working for free right now. Yes. But y'all ain't even... Y'all going through the airport, not even telling them thank you and shit like that. No, that's not true.

We always say thank you. But it's a tricky one because the fear is that then it becomes like the club. Like, you get to cut the line if you slide them $100. But you still can't, because you still got to put your bag through security and the x-ray and all that shit like that. If you tip them enough, you don't?

You think that they're the only. the only people that see what's in that x-ray bag? What you mean? You think that the person sitting there is the only person that sees what in that x-ray bag. I guarantee you at the end of the night, everybody's reviewing certain types of tape and they're like, how the fuck you got that through?

How do you got that through? Yo, here's a question. Has there been, like, a terror attack since? Since what? Since 9-11, like on a flight? No, not America. They might need a big raise. Like, have they not been killing it?

But they stepped it up. Remember the, the, I'm saying, but we- Security wasn't as strict as it was before. No, I know, but like, they've been doing the job. Like, what are we doing right now? Pay these motherfuckers. Like, nothing through that. You can't even get a bottle of water that's over the size.

Respect. So, like, maybe they need a fucking little upgrade. So maybe it's not tips, but whatever that government money that's coming through, like, they've done the job. We asked them to do the job. They did it. You know how the X-ray machine is good? You know how you know the X-ray machine is good?

When you go to the X-ray machine. You can't make no more money, you know? Like, good thing. I don't even just look at it. It's all safe. You don't even think when you fly. They can't make any more money, Taylor? Yeah, I went through this weekend.

They pulled my bag because I had some lotion in my bag. But the lotion, the bottle is oversized, but I hadn't damn need used all of it. So they was just like, oh, it's almost empty anyway. It just gave it back. So not only do they, they don't just look at the bottle. They're looking how much is in there. Absolutely. Absolutely.

That TSA does a phenomenal job. I saw my guy at Cutting Slices Pieces Pieces. Joe. pizza and what's the what's the chef name Darren the show they gave they sent a bunch of cuts and slices pieces to LaGuardia airport

work yeah for the TSA agents I want to do something like that that's fire we should do that that's fire we should do a little something for them when they get back to work and just let them know how they're at work they're not getting paid well why are these crazy lines they can't be all back to work if these lines are a lot of people calling out

they got to it got to go make ends meet they either quit or calling out they got to make ends meet what else we got to What else we got? Let's do one more. I just watching the other TSA people. Because they don't know how to TSA. But why are they even there? Somebody there.

Like it's no point. I'm going to be honest with you. I got another theory that those ain't even really the real ice agent. Those are not the ones that was on the street with the mask and all of that shit like that. Why? Who are they?

The one, they're not wearing masks at the airport. Gotcha. But you can just look at them and tell like, this is like a temp job. Like this is, like they just signed these people up. It looks like the wandered out of the airport. Yeah. They don't look like they don't.

They don't, I'm like, these can't be the motherfuckers that was in the street jumping out of fucking trucks and slamming people to the ground with the guns and all of that. Like, this shit don't look right. Like, it looks like this ain't the, this ain't the, this ain't the real ice. This ain't the real ice, bro. I really want to talk to one of them and be like, how long you've been on the job, yo? Did you hear me, Minnesota? You know what I'm saying? Was you in California?

Like, where was you before? Because ask them. Just look, if you look at them, they do not look like. Yeah, they look great. The ICE agents that were on, and by the way, the ICE agents that were on the street have masks on, but they don't even move the same. It's kind of weird, bro.

Wait, come on, I have a video. Video of what? What, the ICE agent? Because there's someone made a video, like, making fun of them because they're just chilling, hanging around. Now, that one, the one that had the person on the ground, that he's a veteran. He's like, that's Minnesota.

That one right there, now he, the one that had the woman on, now see those, but they got masks on. So those are the old. G. I said, no, this AI, bro. That's AI. That's AI. That's AI. Yeah. No, but there's one. How do you know that's AI? Tell me so I don't get God, please. Watch, just watch it. Look at, look at how she moves and then look at his hand to go grab her again. And by the way, nobody reacts. Well, they do a little bit. Barely.

See, that's the bullshit. Who's that guy? He's bending that. All right, look at this. These guys, these guys, they're not wearing mad. They're just chilling. Good old time Look at this That is not The ice that has been raising hell All year Now he might be

He's out there That's out there That capital of Ryan White He might be He might be Come on let's just want to ask you to get up out of here Taylor gang Taylor gang

Taylor gang Scroll up Let's see what we got Let's do this Uh Scroll out. Ooh, that's a good one. Aska got him here right here.

What is more effective? Okay, this is the good one to end on. What is more effective? Learning through failure are from other people's mistakes. It's smart people learn from the mistakes of others or whatever that's saying is. Yeah, smart people learn from their own mistakes. Why people learn from the mistakes of others? Yes.

But learning through your own failures, there's a, immediate, there's immediate reaction to it. Watching other people fail, it's easier to ignore and be like, that wouldn't happen to me. So I think it like, there's more motivation when the shit happens to you, 100%. Because you've got to figure it out. You don't got to figure it out when someone else is failing. Yeah, I definitely think you learn through, you learn more through failure. Like, yeah, smart people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from the mistakes of others.

I think both of them are very effective. valuable, yeah. Yeah, very, oh, that's even better. Both of them are very valuable, but learning through failure, your own failure, I think is more effective. I'll tell you what else is also more effective.

When you see something, the church's point, when you see somebody do something, think it's, see that as a mistake, but think it won't happen to you, and then your dumb ass goes and does the same thing, it makes the same mistake.

That will teach you two lessons. You're going to learn from the failure on your own, and you're also going to be like, okay, next time I'm going to learn from the mistakes of other people. Right. You know? So I think learning through failure

is definitely more effective. But then also, I don't feel like I've ever failed. That's what I'm saying, what's failure to you? I don't feel like I've ever failed because going back to what we were discussing earlier, earlier,

every single so-called bad thing that happened in my life led to some type of greater good. Every say, like there's not one single time. I can think about every single time I got fired from radio. I ended up with a better job in radio. We're wrapping everything up. What do I say about the rap battles?

You take an L in the rap battle, just keep going. Keep it moving. We're putting everything in a bowl right now. Yes. That's what life was about. You've got to keep going even when you so-called fail. Because what did you learn from the failure? I guarantee you learn something that's going to help you on your next level.

Right. And when I look at every single so-called failure in my life, every single one, professionally and personally, they all put me in a better position. Interesting. I truly believe that. You don't feel like the thing about the time you bombed on state. Oh, of course. 100%.

Yeah, it's immediate motivation. It's like, I got to get better at this. I got to change something. If you're not failing, you're really not changing. Are trying. We're trying. Like, why would you? Low key.

When people tell me shit like a comedian's like, I never bombed. Get out of it. You ain't, you ain't doing it enough thing. Not taking enough risk. You're not taking enough risk. I never bombed. Please, man. Come on, man.

Let's see. What's your next big show? I'm going to show you all something. What's your next big show so I can buy a honey ticket? We'll buy the first two rows. Okay. I'm going to buy the first two rows and fill them with plus. plants, baby, okay?

Because Alex needs to know how it feels. Okay? Because all it takes is the- That it's not fair. Then it's not a real bomb. Who cares in this, internet air? Turn your fucking camera. Turn your camera sideways, okay?

If you're in the building at Andrew's next big show, and Alex is going on that stage, turn your camera sideways. When you see the first hundred, when you see 100 people in the first two roles booing Alex before he says a word, just to know. there was Charlemagne the God

And this is your And the cold word is Keep digging your grave nigger Keep digging your grave And this is the devil On your shoulder right This is heaven set right

There's heaven sent Would that not bring joy? You're telling me that wouldn't bring joy And the podcast We sacrifices Alex Little Eagle for some joy You don't like joy As always, if you listen to this podcast,

you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.