The Brilliant Idiots - The Ten Clout Commandments

Episode Date: December 11, 2020

This week Andrew is back! This week In this episode Andrew discuss what he is cooking up for Netflix, Charlamagne talks about signing with signing with iHeart for another 5 years, also we discuss why ...are people blaming DJ Vlad for Casanova getting arrested, snitching on yourself through social media, Mayweather fighting Logan Paul, Why some people in Staten Island are mad at Pete Davidson, ask an idiot and more!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. Yep, Charlemagne, the guy. Shelty. We are the Brilliant Idiot's Podcast. We got pre-roll? Do we have a pre? Do we have a pre?
Starting point is 00:00:14 No, no pre. Don't worry about it. We're here, man. We back for another week of Brilliant Idiots. We're in the studio. Did you tell everybody? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Did you tell everybody? No, I didn't tell nobody. No, I mean, you told them I was pregnant. That's what you told them. Yes, but I was talking about. about with the Netflix special. Yeah, motherfucker. You're asshole.
Starting point is 00:00:33 First of all, I don't show up to one goddamn episode, right? My girl's DMs is flooded. My DMs are flooded. I got mad baby emojis in it. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? My girl texts me. She goes, Andrew, I go, what's up? She goes, are we pregnant?
Starting point is 00:00:48 I go, I don't think so. And then all of a sudden, I text the group chat with you. And I'm like, yo, what is it going on with this pregnancy shit? And then you said, I used a metaphor that you're having. having a child. I listen to the episode, the beginning of episode goes like this. Well,
Starting point is 00:01:03 Andrew's pregnant. Yes. That's not a metaphor, Charla. But why would Andrew be pregnant? Because now, you know, progressive people,
Starting point is 00:01:11 the men and the woman are both pregnant with that stupid shit. Lo-key, that's disrespectful to women. Imagine, like, you got to carry this baby and nourish this baby
Starting point is 00:01:18 for nine months and your husband also gets to be like, yeah, I'm pregnant. Yes, if Andrew was really having a baby and it was public,
Starting point is 00:01:24 I'd be like, Andrew and his fiance are expecting a baby. I said Andrew's pregnant. Women say that all the time. know. First of all, when do people start taking black people literal? That's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Oh, man. So if I say right now, we're cooking, we're cooking. You don't see no pots. You don't see no pants. No, there's a black person cooking somewhere, man. There's a black person cooking somewhere. I got to feel it. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Anyway, we call people thirsty when they're not hydrated. I mean, when they're already hydrated, you know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck, man. Positively brilliant. What a fucking idiot. Positively brilliant. Let's start with positively brilliant. The brilliant idiots, we had a pretty good week.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We had a great week. We had a pretty good week. Positively brilliant is fucking Netflix. You know what I mean? More so Andrew Schultz. And the reason I say moreso, Andrew Schultz, is because I really get a rush watching my people prosper.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But watching Andrew prosper the way he prospered, doing it his own way. We just had this conversation last week on the podcast. I was talking about the leverage. Or maybe when it was a mouse was here, I don't remember, but it's the leverage that this generation has that they may not know they have. Because they can build shit on their own.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And only thing a Netflix can do is partner with you. They can't do anything else. I bet you the conversation was totally different than most people who go trying to shop something. Yeah, it was a, I think it was different. Now, again, I don't know, you know, because I haven't dealt with them coming from a different position. No, no, no, no, be a little spicy.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Okay, go, go, go. I don't know, because I don't come in motherfuckers begging. That's true. That's true. I didn't know how to... I didn't know what to say. I wasn't using metaphors, but now that we're using... Your boy was hydrated.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You know what I'm saying? You were not thirsty. That's right. No thirst. Very hydrated. No thirst. You went to Netflix very hydrated. They couldn't even offer you a drink.
Starting point is 00:03:25 That's true. They couldn't even offer you a drink. They're looking at your big-ass jug of water, and they're, like, shit, how can we sip on that? Thank you. Imagine that. No, that's literally what it is.
Starting point is 00:03:34 You got a big jug of water. You're over there drinking, drinking. They come to you like, can I pay you for a sip at me? And I was like, yeah, you can have a little. That's it. You can get a sip. I'll pour you a cup. I'm not going to pay you the, I'm not going to give you the whole bottle.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But I'll pour you a cup. I give you a cup of the sauce. I poured them a bottle, bro. I ain't going for a front. I put a lot of work into that motherfucker right there. But you put a lot of work into all your shit. Yeah. I've watched you.
Starting point is 00:03:59 All them, those YouTube clips, Andrew, them should take time. Yeah. You know what I mean? So you put a lot of work in, you would have put a lot of work into it regardless. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:07 and a team, bro. Like, I know I'm going to get the credit for this. I said this on flagrant, obviously because I'm, you know, the person delivering it, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:13 shout to Alex Media. Alex media, Alex media directed it, you know, first. Big Alex. Directorial debuts on Netflix. That's pretty good. All this verbal abuse is paid off.
Starting point is 00:04:21 This is what it's about, bro. I'm serious. Yeah. You know, I'm serious. That's why you got to stay down. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:28 You think somebody's being hard on you, you know, just because they're asshole. No, they're being hard on you because they see something in you that you may not see in yourself. Now you've got to fucking direct his credit on that. There we go. Shout to my boy Mark Gagnon, man. And Mark co-created with me. He wrote with me. And shout to Robbie Slovic.
Starting point is 00:04:42 He wrote on it as well, an F-A-L guy. And there's a lot of other people, dove in the room. That's my first friend in college. He executive produced it as well. Dope. And there's a lot of people behind the scenes as well. Everybody eats. Everybody eats.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I mean, that is true. Like, you know, I think that's something that's true about both of us is like the people around us are always going to eat as long as you ride and you work your fucking ass off. I can only create opportunities for people around me. They got to step into those opportunities. But the people that do, they tend to thrive, man. You really got to ask yourself that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, that's what you're supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:05:13 When you're in a position, you're supposed to make sure everybody around you prosperous because there's always something for you to do. Yeah. If you're sitting around people and you're starving, man. Yo, but it's like maybe you're not providing nothing. That's another thing. Because a lot of people are just like, your friends with the dude is popping, and then you're like, but where's mine?
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's like, yeah, what are you doing? What do you do? You thought you were just going to hang out there roll blunts and then be a millionaire? Absolutely. And you don't even roll blunts probably. You don't even roll blunts well. You're always smoking.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah. You're all the time. Who are you smoking with? It's like, it's so simple, but a lot of people I don't think get it. It's like you can give people opportunities, but they got to step in and fill those shoes, man.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I went to, because I didn't even know Netflix did this. I saw everybody posting it. So I went to Netflix to type in show States America. I didn't know that they do that before a show comes on. Oh yeah. So they got like a splash page up. Matter of fact, we're going to give them a little something sexy. Maybe by the time this is up, there's going to be something new over there. But yeah, what I want to do is I want to break the record for most ad to your watch lists. I think you're going to do it. I think you're going to
Starting point is 00:06:11 crazy numbers. Only because you're already conditioned people. Like people are excited for it. They're like finally. Absolutely. But people are conditioned for it. They go to your YouTube page already. They go to your Instagram. So they're absolutely. I went to that shit, man. I stayed at that shit. I'm like, God damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that shit almost, that shit,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'm getting sensitive in my old age. That shit was like, I was like, wow, Terry I'd like, good, man. Like, I was looking at the shit with the flames and I've clicked on. I'm like, that's fucking Andrew. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You know what I'm saying? Hey, bro. That's, you know what we say, man. You earned it. You earned it. You earned it. Nothing fucking given. Facts, man.
Starting point is 00:06:50 You earned it. Nothing fucking given. A buddy of mine texts me, he goes, he goes, you played the game on difficult. No. And won. You didn't even play the game.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You didn't even play the game. Yeah. Now, when you were playing the game, the industry was difficult. Right. That's what made you say, man, fuck this shit. I'm going to go start my own. Yeah, yeah. The way that I've always looked at things and like it was you could be next to the thing
Starting point is 00:07:19 that's hot and then hope they're charitable with the heat, right, in terms of like, you know, like go to all these, like, parties and shit like that and, like, go to these, like, comedy festivals and, like, kiss up to every single exec there and hope by kissing up that they're going to continue to give you these opportunities. Or you could create the thing that has the heat and then other people will want to be doing business with you. That's right. They see. And then that was the whole transition. And obviously being with you and, you know, starting this with you was something that made me realize, like the power that goes into that. and then continuing to do, you know, flagrant
Starting point is 00:07:54 and putting out the YouTube clips and even the special, I was like, oh, shit, you don't have to siphon off someone else's heat. You could create your own fucking heat, and then people want to do business with you. So I was like, that's the life I want to have. I don't want to live off charity, man. I want to create my own shit
Starting point is 00:08:08 and, you know, be charitable to others. But the crazy thing is when Schultz, when it hits for Shorts, because it's going to hit. When it hits for Shorts, it's going to be so massive because it's like watching, and I always compare it to rap, right? Like, you, I'd rather be,
Starting point is 00:08:22 J-Z R-T-I, right? Because their first projects came out didn't do great commercially, but they were critically acclaimed, right? People fucked with them but they just built.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You just watched, you know, Jay Z especially, you just watched the progression. Yeah. Next album. It was good and commercial, right?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Commercial success. Next album was great and commercial success. And then he just kept building, building, building, building. I'd rather have that than come out to gate.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Red Hot, 10 million records sold the first album. And then next album. Because there's no way to go from there. Yeah. You know what I mean? When somebody watches your career trajectory and they're like,
Starting point is 00:08:55 yeah, I remember Andrew from Guy Cole. You know what I mean? Oh, I remember Andrew from doing the Brilliant Nies podcast. Oh, yeah, I've been to Andrew stand up before. Oh, Andrew from Flagrant. Oh, Andrew doing the YouTube videos. Oh, shit, Andrew got a Netflix special. Now those people that's been riding with you,
Starting point is 00:09:09 those new folks that's going to come on because of the Netflix special, like, yo, you know Andrew's shows? The fuck, you're just getting on shows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just getting on Hezekiah Walker? You know what I'm saying? You're just getting on the Toxic Crusader? It's like,
Starting point is 00:09:22 You know, middle age Hesi was so funny when you put that in the caption. But middle age Hedgerjee would, would you rather have gotten it seven years ago or getting it right now? No, getting it right now. The way that we got it, man,
Starting point is 00:09:34 is super satisfying. But also, I got to say, like, getting it, and I don't care if this sounds contrived, but like, once you have the love of the people, there's not any really extra validation from, like, the love of the network. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I mean, like, doing this opportunity allows me to get to more people. That's right. But I don't value it more than I valued all the people who fuck with me when we were putting stuff up on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter. Like, that to me is the ultimate. So in a weird way, I've been seeing the reaction and, like, people are really personalizing the win as they should because there's all these people who have been sharing my shit for fucking years and telling all their friends, you know, this kid's the truth, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:10:15 and then when you see the commercial start to catch up with the community. all the sudden, I think for all those people who built the community were like, see, I was right. Yeah. I knew I was right. I trusted my guts. And, man, the industry's in trouble simply because they have no choice but to start treating motherfuckers fair. You know what I'm saying? Like, they have no choice at this point.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Like, I love what Tiffany Haddish did. I thought that was positively brilliant. Telling the Grammys like, yo, I'm not hosting this shit for free. You don't want to pay me. You don't want to provide hair and makeup all wardrobe? What the fuck do you, think I am. I'm out. I mean, she don't got hair. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:55 She might need a haircut, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like the fact that she's able to even say that without even worrying about hey man, what if they don't nominate you for any Gramary? I mean, she's nominated this year for her stand-up special on Netflix, Black Mistive, but the fact that she's not even concerned about it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah. Because she's in a space where she's good. Yeah. The fuck if you you're getting such and such amount of money for a movie, you got partnerships over here, partnerships over there. What the fuck are you going to show up for free to look. I love the energy of that. I love the energy like you're already satisfied. Like you don't need these motherfuckers, these like execs or whatever to love you. You don't need like the industry to love you. You need to be inviting to the parties in the hills. You're like, I'm good with my
Starting point is 00:11:32 people. I'm good where I am financially. I can take care of my family. I don't need anything else. So if you're going to provide something else, it's got to be the right opportunity. Absolutely. Yeah. And not even complaining about it. Just like, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I felt insulted. Yeah. I'm out. Yo, we got, um, we got a little, uh, Charlotte, you're in the special a little bit. Really? Yeah, man. This don't put me in the predator's part. That's why that guy got this. Don't do that. Yeah, all I'll say is, I'll say this when it comes out. Watch, well, one, Charlotte, you pop up in some pictures that I think are quite fun. The thing is racked with jokes. I've seen all of our pieces,
Starting point is 00:12:09 but a lot of people don't notice that, like, every piece has, like, a little Easter egg in. Every, like, joke often in the picture, there's another little thing. Like, and we try to hide a lot of little things throughout the special. But yeah, Charlotte, you pop up in some picks. I'll see that. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And also I'll say one last thing that's all I say because I can't say too much but like without giving it away watch
Starting point is 00:12:31 it to the end. Oh. On some Marvel movie shit? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. 1217 or 1214? 1217.
Starting point is 00:12:45 1217. So that's next Thursday? Next Thursday. Yeah, yeah. That's what I love too. Like, when you announce something, I literally was just complaining about this. When you announce something, I want to see that shit out within the two weeks. You know what I mean? I was saying we should announce the day of. And it's like on some level,
Starting point is 00:13:04 I do understand that. And then on some level, I also think the anticipation is fun too, like getting everybody excited about it. It also gives us some time to get all of our shit ready in case we want to put like assets out and, you know, really gear it up. I could have done it either way. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, we need, I would have rather you all announced than now so we can shit shit all people
Starting point is 00:13:21 a little bit on this podcast. That's all, you know what I mean? It's cool. And humbly. That's just humbly. It's humbly.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And by the way, we don't even have to say anything. The proof is in the pudding. That's it, man. That's it. Let's go check it out. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:13:34 The proof is in the pudding. If you build it, they will come. That's as simple as that. If you build it, they will come. Simple as that. We put a lot of work into this, man.
Starting point is 00:13:42 For real, I just want to say thank you to everybody. Thank you, Alex. Thank you, Mark, Robbie F FAA. Like, I'm telling you the last three months, the last month, bro, we were working 100 hours a week minimum. The last two weeks, we were sleeping maybe two hours a night. We were pregnant, bro. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You know, literally, we was pregnant, bro. I was fucking snorting aterol just to stay up. Really? Oh, yeah, dude. I mean, I'm, dude, it was because I ran out of energy, bro. I'm 37 years old, man. I can't stay up like these fucking. fucking kids, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:15 So I'm like, put a lot of pressure on yourself. Yo, it wasn't, it wasn't pressure as much as like, I'm, I'm like looking at it like a masterpiece, man. And I'm, and I have the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:14:28 This is what it is. It's like, you know when you know how great something can be? Like, I'm okay if I create something that's a seven and I make it a seven. I'm not okay if I create something that is a 10.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And it comes out as an eight. So it has to be as good as it can be. And I knew we had the opportunity. to create a masterpiece and we created a masterpiece man but it took every hour of our fucking lives for the last few months but yeah i was excited even did we i don't know if we we talked about publicly you were supposed to do a stand-up earlier this year right yeah that's still on the that's yeah that's that's another thing i can't speak about that one you know what i mean but yeah this is this is same same platform who knows
Starting point is 00:15:15 bro, you know. Still free agents out here, you know what I mean? You never know. You never know. That's all I'm saying. You never know. A wise man once said when it rains it pours. I think that was DMX.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Okay. Wasn't it DMX? I think a few people have said. I think a few people have said. I like the way DMX said. When it rains, motherfuckers get wet. Well, talk about rain and pouring Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You had a decent week this week. Did you not? I had a pretty good week. Did you have a decent week? Now, I heard, I saw a poster too, talking about deals being made, talking about resigning to I-Heart, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:48 For another maybe five years. Yeah, I did another five-year deal. Now, to me, I don't know how long you plan on doing it, but to me, it kind of felt like this was like maybe your possibly last deal? I don't know. I mean, you know what? You feel that way, right? But then on the same day, my deal got announced, Howard Stern's deal got announced.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And Howard Stern's deal got announced. And Howard Stern signed for another five. five years. And Howard was like, shit, I have no reason to leave. I do the show from home. He's getting $120 fucking million a year. Is that what he's getting? Yeah. So it's like, and I'm looking at Howard, I'm like, now Howard 60-something years out. I'm like, would I still want to be doing radio? I probably, because I'm a talker, right? You love it. I love radio. I actually enjoy radio. I don't know. I really don't know. I really don't know what the future. I honestly, truly can say I don't know what the future hold.
Starting point is 00:16:43 or everybody was asking you to sign, why specifically I-Heart? Loyalty. Yeah. You know, it says something when you've been with somebody for 10 years, and, you know, they've just always had your back. You know what I mean? I mean, and I like I-Hart for a lot of different reasons. I like I-Hart because they let the creatives be creatives, and they really do believe.
Starting point is 00:17:08 They got out the way. They get out the way, and they really do believe in freedom of speech. Yes. Right? I mean, this is the same. This is a company that goes from Rush Limbaugh to Bobby Bones to Elvis Duran to, you know, the Breakfast Club, Shalamein, right? And then, you know, Premier Radio Network, same thing. You got Steve Harvey. You got, you know, Mario Lopez. Like, they just have a bunch of different voices, right? And, you know, I love radio. So if I'm going to stay in the game of radio, there's no better place to be than... It's got to be at the biggest company. There's no better place to be than I-Hart. And plus the fact that they've always impacted. empowered me as a talent, but now they're empowering me as an owner and an executive. Because, you know, the first announcement that came out was the Black Effect Podcast Network, which I'm 51% majority owner of, right? So they're enabling me to have this company, which I would have anyway,
Starting point is 00:17:58 but partnered with eye heart on it, a majority owner. That's a different level of empowerment, right? That's really honoring our relationship in a real way. You know what was really cool about the pod network? was outside of like the podcast that came on it, but seeing all the people that I've been working with, with you get jobs on it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like Taylor is employed by the Blackfoot Podcast Network, right? And like you have all these people that are actually working. We're 100% black staffed. Is that right? 100% Blackstaffed. What time does everybody get in every day? Luckily we can work from home. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Luckily everybody can work from home But 100% black staff Dolly Bishop is the president Dolly, exactly Where we meet Dolly over at MTV Right? Yeah, I met Dolly at MTV Like maybe six, seven years ago
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah I mean, it's the same, it's like me and your relationship It's just one of those people you meet And you're like, I knew this dude in another life I knew this person in another life You know what I mean? And it's like Dolly has been a homie of mine family friend forever, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:06 And it's just like she's so dope And so creative and so smart and got her own resume that she's been building. And I'm just like, if I got the opportunity to make somebody the president of my network, yeah. Now we're not going to be humble for a second. We don't have to be humble when we talk about
Starting point is 00:19:21 taking care of our people and providing them with opportunities. I don't think so. You're just telling the truth. I'm just saying, because that's fire, bro. Like, given the first opportunity, not the first, I'm sure you had our opportunities, but given the opportunity to, like,
Starting point is 00:19:33 put people in positions of power and get them some money, like both of us this last few weeks, that's exactly what we've done. You know what I mean? It's easy to talk about. That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of people talk about empowering and that kind of shit,
Starting point is 00:19:45 but like I don't know if you see it exactly. I just think what we've always done is just being magnified now. You know what I'm saying? I was reading in my daily affirmation book this morning and they talked about how whatever you do it a little is what you're going to do with a lot. You know what I'm saying? So it don't matter what position you're in.
Starting point is 00:20:03 You can assist anybody if that's who you are. You know what I mean? Yeah. Some people just ain't built like that. If a motherfucker is constantly telling you, man, just wait till, wait till I get this. Wait till I get that. I'm going to put you in position. Yeah, if you got 50 cents, get your brother 10.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. Or 15, 20, you can do something. You know what I mean? Some people just ain't built like that. Yeah. Yes, Black Effect was the first thing. They empowered me as an owner. And now they empowered me as an executive.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I can't even remember my exact title right now. What's my exact title, too? Charlamagne the cop, bro. I'm a senior executive senior. But basically I'm helping cultivate new talent, create new programming. Really? Yeah. Help.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You are the senior creative officer, officer of cultural content and programming and co-founder, EVP, and chief creative officer of the Black Effect Podcast Network. Yeah, all of that. So basically, so, yeah, for the eye heart, I'm helping to develop new talent. That pointless ass. title, bro. Hey, man. I'm a senior executive. Pointless as. They just call you senior black.
Starting point is 00:21:15 You're the senior black at our heart. Now, I'm not the senior black, though. Cultural awareness and... But culture is not just black, though. It is, though. Nah. No, no, no, no, no. Coch is culture. You know what I mean? I agree with you 100% on that, and I use the term culture in different ways, but there
Starting point is 00:21:31 obviously is the term the culture that black people have coined and it is a reflection of black culture, right? But I'm just helping to curate new talent, curate new programming, events, which we already do anyway. You know what I mean? Like events, community initiative, stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:21:50 which I already do anyway. So it's just like, boom, there's the title. So, and it's also just a way for me to, you know, walk around the building and tell, Taylor to watch how she talks to a senior executive at I at heart. That's it. You know what I mean? That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So, yeah, life is good. Life is good, man. What else is going to? on this week, bro? This week. What else happened? What a fucking idiot? I had a what a fucking idiot in my mind. I've literally had a what a fucking idiot. Maybe that's a good thing that we didn't have a what a fucking idiot. Because I was just so happy about what happened with you. But I did it. It was something that I wanted to come in here and say what a fucking idiot about. With the Santa, COVID. Which one was it? We're talking about the donkey day today. No, it wasn't that. The Cardi thing with the bag. My girl randomly told. Like she said she went to buy
Starting point is 00:22:35 his bag and then people were hitting her up on Twitter saying like it's messed up that you should buy you say that you're going to buy an $80,000 bag while people are out there suffering. Oh, I didn't mind it. To Cardi's credit, Cardi was started posting like her charitable donations. I wouldn't even have did debt.
Starting point is 00:22:51 First of all, Cardi is acting her wage. And this is the thing about social media and we have to remember this. You're not Cardi B. And that's what people need to realize just because you can add a person and if that person may even respond to you, y'all not on the same level.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like social media is literally the safari, right? Like you get in your safari and you watch how other people live. Yeah, yeah. Cardi has money to spend on an $88,000 bag. So when she gets on there and she goes, yo, man, should I, you know, buy this $88,000 bag? What y'all think? That's the equivalent of you saying,
Starting point is 00:23:26 hey, man, should I get pizza hot of Papa Johns today? And that's not a diss. It's just that she's acting her wage. That's what $80,000 means to her. Yeah. Come on. She's operating from a level of a person who is in that position. And I think it's weird for people to see because they watched her come from the bottom.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah. They remember her when she was six, seven years ago when she was just in the script club and she was making funny Instagram sketches and shit like that. Like I think it's weird for people, especially if you're still in the same space. Yeah. But you've had to watch this person evolve over the past six, seven years. You can't get mad at her because she can afford an $88,000 back. That's how she's living.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Then she turned around and flex on you. you again and show you how much money she's donated to charity. I wouldn't have did that because I'm just not in the... I'm not explaining myself to people on social media. Yeah. I might do it on the podcast. I'm on the radio, but I'm not going to get on social. I'm not getting on social media to explain my fucking stuff because
Starting point is 00:24:18 all they're going to do is take you out of context. Right. They did that with Carrie and Jamel. Who's Karen Jamel? Carrey champion in Jamel Hill. Oh, that actually was... Okay, let's set that up because that is interesting. That's actually an interesting conversation. I put that in the what a fucking idiot category.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yes. Because... But, yeah. Because of the social media reaction, because I watched... Can you say what it is? Yeah, yeah. I watched the show on vice. I want to tailor to insert the clip, too.
Starting point is 00:24:45 But they had Jake Paul on. Jamel Hill starts it off by saying, did you think it was racist that you knocked out Nate Robinson? She's laughing the whole time, all of that shit. And Jake's like, stop playing with me. He knew he said it. He's like, oh, stop playing with me, man. He was like, it's boxing, whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Then something happened with his computer. It froze. So, Cal goes, oh, you're frozen. Okay, let's start from the top. So Carrie doubles down. Nate is the one who called me out originally. I think he is frozen. Hey, can you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you guys now. Sorry, my Wi-Fi is unstable, like my relationship.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Okay, so let's start from the beginning. Okay. First and foremost, was it racist to knock a black man out? That is the question of the- No, stop asking me that. I said no. It's not racist. It's a shitty question.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It's a sport. Why is it a shitty question? Why is it a shitty question? Because how does this have anything to do with race? It doesn't. It's a fine question. We got to wake you up. You got to be a part of this conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:51 That's right. Because if you can go from, oh, oh. Oh. You know what? He just hit himself harder than Nate Robinson ever hit him. Y'all had to know they were playing, you know. Social media had to know they were playing. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:04 If any, not anybody else, but if most other people ask that question, it's because it's Jamel. It's a joke. But when Jamel Hill, her career has turned into, here's why everything's racist. When you ask the question, which is consistent with all the other questions that you're asking her statements, people are going to take you serious. Yeah. And that's the thing like, Jamel, Jamel.
Starting point is 00:26:25 She got to know that. Yeah, Jamel's an amazing talent to me. I've always respected Jamel. She knows if a fourth round pick that's a punter said something racist 14 years ago in like a you know, a term paper he wrote for middle school. Like, she'll find that somewhere. And then she will post it on Twitter. They're like, see, look, the punter for the Patriots is racist.
Starting point is 00:26:44 He shouldn't be in the NFL. And then you ask another question that's as consistent with that. And then people take it out of context, you can't be like, I'm a comedian now. But you know what's fucked up about that shit, though? Jamel always has had a sense of humor. And she's always expressed it. But I guess it gets lost in the wokeness, I would call it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:02 You know what I mean? I guess it gets, I guess it gets. I guess it gets lost in that. So people have a narrative about Jamel in their head. So soon as they see that, they're like, oh, hell no. But it was clearly a joke. I knew she was joking. And if anybody else asked it, I think it's a joke.
Starting point is 00:27:16 If you asked it, it's a joke. No, I wouldn't ask it like that, though. How would you ask it? I would have said, so Jake Paul, do you believe in the Black Lives Matter movement? And when he said, when he said yes, I would have said, so why did you kill Nate Robinson? You know what I mean? That's how I would have done it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:36 I would have done it like that. But, you know, I mean, it's just the fact that people reacted the way they did the Carrie and Jamel. But they do that all the time on social media. They take a clip. They manipulate it. They cut it up because they didn't even start with Jamel. They started with Carrie.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Because Carrie's tone was a little more serious even though she was joking as well. Right. And then Jake goes, oh, that's a shitty question. And she goes, why is it a shitty question? Because it's a shit question. So even though she being sarcastic and playing, it looks like she's dead-ass serious. Yeah. And I'm just like, how could y'all spend all day or at least half a day mad at this obvious sarcasm?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Because people just hate hypocrisy. That's all it is. And it looks hypocritical. It's like that Chappelle joke where he's like, just because I'm dressed this way. Remember, like, when he was wearing a policeman's outfit? And the girl's like, help, help. And he's like, just because I'm dressed this way. Why would you think I'm a police officer?
Starting point is 00:28:26 And that's the same thing. If you're going to dress the part, people are going to treat you as a part. I felt that way about how everybody reacted to Casanova this week, too. What happened with that? He got locked up or something? Yeah, he got locked up on a federal indictment. And I guess in the paperwork, I was read the paperwork. The paperwork said that, you know, it was some interviews that he did.
Starting point is 00:28:48 You know, I guess it was some interviews about a stabbing or something like that. And then everybody, you know, took a cook from Vlad TV. and it became this whole, you know, Vlad TV is the feds, right? And I really feel like we're missing an opportunity to have a bigger conversation when we can't look past our personal feelings for people, right? So same thing with Jamel. People have personal feelings toward Jamel. They have a narrative about Jamel, so they couldn't even see that.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It was sarcasm and it was joking. Right. Same thing with Vlad. People have, you know, ill feelings toward Vlad. It's a narrative about Vlad. So they just harp on that instead of looking at the bigger picture. Right. Yeah, go, go.
Starting point is 00:29:30 The bigger picture is, well, go ahead. What's your going? Would Jamela Hill afford that same, I guess, I don't know, patience. Luxury? Yeah, yeah. Or luxury to someone else. I don't think she would. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:45 That's a good question. Just based on what I've seen from her, I don't think that she would have the same tolerance. And maybe it's coming from a good place. Maybe it's like, I have a zero tolerance policy to any racism. I don't care how old you are or anything that could potentially be misconstrued as it. I hate racism and I'm not tolerant. None of that shit. And I'm not anti that at all.
Starting point is 00:30:04 But because she presents herself as having zero tolerance policy, she can't look at maybe someone who was a kid and maybe made a mistake or did something dumb. And it may she's kind of blind to that. So then you look at that person, you're like, oh, so she has no tolerance for forgiveness or no tolerance for jokes or no tolerance for any of that kind of stuff. So then I'm not going to have any tolerance for her. She set the table. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:29 They couldn't wait. When you have, when you have, when you have. They couldn't wait. Yes. When you have a voice, when you have a platforming, the good thing is this, right? Your voice matters. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Because if your voice didn't matter, they wouldn't be on your ass like that. Yes. You know what I'm saying? So Jamel and Carrie's voice matters. But they can't wait to jump on Jamel. They can't wait to catch Jamel slipping. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:49 Because of the fact, Jamel will call people out on their shit. And that's fine. When you're that type of person, when you're that type of personality, you have to know that comes with the territory. I tell folks all the time, everybody gets a turn. Yeah. There's not one person who has a podcast, a radio show, a TV show. If you're vocal for a living, eventually you will get a turn.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yes. That's why I don't fall into that social media, darling love. Social media is full of shit. They don't like you? Yeah. So you, and some people literally... They don't like you. They just like, do you agree with them?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yo. They like what you guys having... comment. I wish I had my laptop. I want to pull, it's this Barack Obama quote that he said in an interview a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I, with my phone. I got to read this quote. This quote is, his quote is really good. I don't know if I can find it, by the way. But let me see.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Hold on. Barack Obama said something like, because he was talking about to defund the police thing, man. Hold on. Let me see if I can find the quote. Barack said, this is in regard to the defunding the police.
Starting point is 00:31:48 He said, the key is deciding, do you want to actually get something done or do you want to feel good among the people you already agree with. That's all social media is. It's a bunch of motherfuckers trying to feel good among the people they already fucking agree with.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So if you wake up every day and you have to wait for social media to tell you what to think, you have, you see something and you scroll down the timeline and see what other people are thinking and then you formulate your opinion, bro, you're going to have a hard life. It's going to be a long day for you. all the time. I always wonder like if you couldn't see how many retweets or likes you got, if people would even tweet this stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yes. And if they wouldn't. Yes. It's because it's not because they don't, it's because they don't really care about the issue. What they care about is that positive feedback. Yes. You know,
Starting point is 00:32:39 they're just tapping into the reward system. Yes. How can I get some paths on the fucking back? And it's bullshit, you know, by the same time, I'm not going to be somebody hate on social media because social media gave me a career in a lot of ways, right? It gave me the opportunity to connect with people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So, like, we all won off of it. So we're all, you know, it's, it's amazing, but it's also shitty, but it's so easy to get caught in that vacuum, especially when, like, if you tap into a movement, it could be wokeness, it could be Trumpism, it doesn't matter. But if you tap into a movement that is super passionate and you just say the things that those people want to hear, that is a express lane on the highway to some social media fame, if you will. Yes. So you have to be very careful. like just as like the athletes that go MAGA like Kobe Covington and those people you got to be careful because the second you leave MAGA
Starting point is 00:33:26 all those people Maga gonna turn on you. Not yeah yeah because they never fucked with you as a fighter they fuck with you because you agree with them. And the same thing with Jamel is like if you build your fan base as only people that are part of this woke sector and then you want to diverge from that a little bit
Starting point is 00:33:41 because your opinion is more nuanced on a topic they're going to eat you too. Absolutely. I mean listen I mean I think uh like you know somebody like Jamel Jamel, people love Jamel, right? But then people really don't like Jamel. I think what fucks with you is when you're just doing you, right? And then all of a sudden the people who you thought fucked with you give you that backlash on social media.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Because they never fuck with you. They never, that's the thing. They never really fucked with us. That's just agreed. That's it. And they can't wait to fucking turn those tables on. you, everybody gets the turn. Yo, that's the thing that I realize about this game, bro, is like, and maybe it come full
Starting point is 00:34:25 circle a little bit, it's like, if you do it the quote-unquote right way, like, if you actually, like, stay true to who you are. The right way is not giving a fuck. It's not giving a fuck. And even that, and I'm not even going to, that became cliche for me at a time. Like, it's almost like a, not giving a fuck is a character. It's a character. You give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Sometimes. We all give a fuck. Yes. We would be talking into a microphone so people could listen if we didn't give a fuck. Yes. Absolutely. But it has to come a point where you can't. You give the least amount of fucks of the give a fuck people.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yes. But you should just, my thing is this, just be true to you. It takes longer that way. That's the thing about being true to you, right? When you're true to you, people have to remove themselves from their ideology and fuck with you. And it's so much easier to go, where are y'all going? You're going to the park?
Starting point is 00:35:13 I'll go to the park with y'all. It's ways you do that than going, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go to the beach. and they're trying to go to the park, and then you're just like, well, I'm still going to the beach. Yeah. And you all have to come,
Starting point is 00:35:21 but eventually you might want to come with me. And it takes longer, but it is so much more fruitful because at the end of that journey, the people that fuck with you aren't going to purposely take your shit out of context because all of a sudden it's like a friend where if my friends is something fucked up,
Starting point is 00:35:35 that's my friend. He's not cut off. I got to go, well, what did you mean by that? Then he explains it and I go, oh, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the group think of social media is going to ruin y'all too
Starting point is 00:35:44 because a lot of these people, they don't even feel the way you think they feel. They're just going along to get along. So I know you see these hundreds and thousands of tweets of people when you think they're on your side. No, they just don't have the nudge to go against the grain. They don't have the nuts to get on Twitter and be like, man, y'all fucking tripping right now.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Y'all are wrong. You're describing Hollywood. This is everybody in Hollywood. Explain. Like Hollywood, this like super liberal Hollywood, right? Everybody out there is like, okay, we need to be incredibly progressive, incredibly woke,
Starting point is 00:36:18 because that's how you work there. Right? And then the second... When some shit don't make sense and everybody's sitting around like, this don't really make sense. Nobody wants to say it. Quiet.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Not going to say shit. Quiet is the emperor's, it's the emperor. You know that story about the emperor when the dude made him the clothes and he didn't make him nothing? He was walking around naked. Everybody's like,
Starting point is 00:36:37 y'all, that's just fire, emperor, right? That's literally what it is. They're the stupidest thing. I always thought they ever had a big dick. Maybe. Maybe he had, that's what I always thought they was compliment them.
Starting point is 00:36:46 might have had it. Might have had it. That's what I always thought. Maybe he was chiseled as a motherfucker. Seriously, maybe he was chiseled as a motherfucker with a big dick. And they was like, shit, fuck them clothes. You are the emperor. Yes, you're fired.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Walk around like that. That's what I always took from that story. Fair enough. That's not it? No, no. Maybe it's a white thing to not assume he has on a big dick. But the point is, like, Hollywood shuts down because of Corona. And what happens to all those motherfuckers?
Starting point is 00:37:12 They all move to red states. They all move to Texas. They all moved to Nashville. All of a sudden, those values there were the Carolinas, Florida. I mean, Georgia's historically a red state. They turn blue, but yeah. Sure, but you know what I'm saying? So all of a sudden, like, all those values that were so important in them
Starting point is 00:37:28 and all these people were like, I could never live in a place that didn't have the perfect bathroom setups and all this shit. All the things they really cared about. All of a sudden, they're like, oh, I could save a few points on taxes. Well, shit. Take me to Texas. Take me to Red State. It's phony bullshit in the second that they didn't need the things from those people.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I'm out. Yeah, I think what we're essentially saying is just, Jamel's success took a shot at her. That's all. Her success took a shot at her. You know, when you're successful and you become successful, you know, being who you are, it's just like people can't even see past, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:03 the narrative they've created for you in your head. Good or bad. Because in some people's mind, Jamel can't do no wrong. Yes. In some people's mind, all she does is wrong. And this was just another example of, see, this is the shit I'm talking about when it comes to her. But she was clearly being sarcastic.
Starting point is 00:38:18 She was clearly joking. Some people were like, wait, why were you being sarcastic? That's a good question. What do you mean? They were like, no, it was racist. Why would he do that? I bet there were people that, I bet there were people that were like, yo, it was fucked up. Yo, and Nate called out Jake.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I never thought Rocky was racist. Nah, he's Italian from Philly. Let's be very honest. If Rocky was racist, what the fuck was Ivan Drago? Oh, that motherfucker was. was super racist he thought Rocky was black he was like why am I fighting this black guy
Starting point is 00:38:52 what is up with this black guy fighting this is bullshit like jeez he fucking killed Apollo yo by the way Nate Robinson fell just like Apollo fell yeah I didn't even realize that that shit is fucked up that's fight shit had never happened though
Starting point is 00:39:08 Nate called out Jake I don't care that's Twitter that's why Twitter is in real life Yeah, that box is real life. Leave that shit alone, man. These motherfuckers will fuck you up. Even this shit, Logan Paul about to do. Why, Logan?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Son, I hit them up, bro. I hit up a Logan. I was like, bro, I don't even know what's going on over here. I'm like, how are we going to sell this fight? I'm more disappointed than Floyd. Can you hate on Floyd? Yeah. But how?
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'm disappointed because he is one of the greatest boxes of all time, 50 and O. What has Logan Paul done? to be in the ring with you. What is Logan Paul done to generate that kind of payday? I know you're going to make money, Floyd. But Floyd, you'd make money fighting anybody.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You'd make money fighting Pachial again. Yeah, but that is risky. There's risk with Pachial. I get it, but eh. Yeah, for what? Like, I mean, I guess he saw the Mike Tyson Roy Jones paper review. I think they did like $1.5 million buys
Starting point is 00:40:10 at $50. Oh, yeah. That shit was stupid. They did like $1.5 million. pay-per-view by that like $50 a pop. I really hope that they got some of that money. Yeah, they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Because the guarantee was a million dollars for each of them, and they were just guesstimating before the fight, and they was like, you know, Michael probably walked away with 10, Royal walk away with three. Now that shit is like damn they triple. You know what I mean? Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, they got paid.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, that makes me so happy. You said the best thing about that shit in your caption. You said, these guys have offered me so much joy throughout my life. The least I could do is give them $50. You know, Chris Rock told me, people don't pay you for what you do. They pay for what you've done. So when you become a Mike Tyson, a Roy Jones, you're going to get this money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Why wouldn't I give Mike Arroy $50? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For all the years of entertainment they've given me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, take this $50 and run with it. Yeah. And that's what I think Floyd's in. And I hope, you know, the first thing people always like to say is Floyd is having money problems.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Nah, Floyd probably just likes money. I think he likes money. He just likes money. Yeah. And I think he's. he's at a point where he's just like, look, I'm on an island. I don't really care. I don't care of motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Thank everybody knows I'm solidified. I think he's trying to chase the billion. Oh, you think he's not there yet? But how is he going to get to the billion in one of these fights? I mean, shit. A couple of these. How much you, okay, how much do we really think that they could, okay, this is the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:41:31 You have to, in order to sell this fight, people have to either hate Logan so much they want to see him get his ass kicked or they have to believe he's got a chance. That's why I don't know why he didn't fight. fight Jake. Jake just knocked out Nate Robinson. I think Floyd thinks he's fighting Jake. I thought he was fighting Jake too. I think I read it three times. I think this is racism.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Yeah. I think Floyd thinks there's only one Paul brother. So he's like, the blonde one on YouTube? Yeah, I'll fight him. So which one called him out? One of them called him out. Both of them have been called him. But Logan called him out and he had like a little Instagram video. We had his like letters on his name like on a wall.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And he said, you can't read this and blah, blah. Listen, it's brilliant. I don't blame this on Floyd not reading because I didn't not being able to read because I didn't know it was Logan either. I saw this shit and I was like, oh shit, he's fighting Jake Paul. And even though I didn't like it, I was like, okay, that makes it. He can act like he'd get back for Nate. And even when he sent that post about Nate, I thought it was setting it up. Like, I'm going, I'm going to go get revenge.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And look, it could be that Floyd is going, all right, I'm going to fight Logan and then maybe on that same card, you have Jake fight somebody and ideally Jake knocks him out. And even if Floyd beats Logan up easy, Jake starts calling out Floyd, then Floyd fights a brother. And then it's another payday. And maybe that's their whole strategy. And then it's brilliant. Let me tell you something about Logan Paul and Jake Paul. You don't get killed fucking wrong in real boxes, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:50 That is 100% true. And something needs to be concerned with. But here's the thing. In order for us to buy this fight, we either got to hate Logan or we got to think he's a chance. Logan is hard to hate. Like the guy is a genuinely nice kid. He's good. He's living a good like.
Starting point is 00:43:05 He's got an incredibly popular podcast. And he's not going to lean into the whole MAGA thing or anything like that that would garner interest. So how the fuck do we garner interest in a fight? I didn't know he existed until this week. I'm not even lying to you. But he exists within YouTube in a big way. I'm sure he does. I had no idea Jake Paul had a brother.
Starting point is 00:43:24 When I saw the fight, I'm like, why the fuck is he fighting Jake Paul? And then I read it again like Logan. And then I saw somebody tweet like, that's not even Jake. Logan is more popular than Jake. Really? Yeah. He was the big one. So when Jake keeps talking about fighting his brother, he's actually talking about Logan.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah. Why don't he's going to fight at the house? They probably have. They probably have. They got a ring at the house. I respect Floyd as a boxer. Yes. I just don't think he should disrespect the sport of boxing in that way.
Starting point is 00:43:55 You know, I saw his daughter talk about how, you know, they're disrespecting boxing by having concerts at the fights. She said that door to the regimen. I thought it was dope, too. To me, this is disrespecting the sport of boxing. You're Floyd Mayweather, but you're 50 and old. Yeah. Like, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah, I wonder if they had the concerts because they don't have access to the footage of them fighting in the past. You know, in between fights, you usually show that, like, old footage. I just thought it was a good mesh of, like, culture and fucking... They did a seem as a, yo, for a first-time event produced by those folks in terms of, like, the boxing world, they did that shit better than when Showtime started putting on boxing matches. Remember when Showtime started doing boxing for the first time? I remember watching those early days and I was like, man, I need Larry Merchant, I need Roy. I don't know who these clowns are, but this is not.
Starting point is 00:44:39 not HBO standard. I enjoyed it. The concerts come on. You go and fix you a drink. You know what I'm saying? You come back. You sipping. You watching.
Starting point is 00:44:45 You laugh. And you're joking. Also, Snoop killed it. Izzy killed it. Like, Who was Izzy? Style Bender. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:51 They killed. And, yo, and honestly, what they were doing is kind of difficult because when they're sitting, like, 10 feet away from each other, it's not the same energy. Like, you can't really bust ball joke around. You're like slapping somebody. It's just you feel a little detached. You know what Snooping Izzy added to it? regularness.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah, they were the average fan. They weren't the announcer like that. The one guy that was sitting there, oh my God, Mike Tyson just came through with the left hook. He's on the ground. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Like, who fuck talks like that? And then Snoop is just like, nah, nah, nah. Yeah. I can't remember the other announcers. He sounded like Torrey Lane's doing quarantine radio. Like, quarantine, quarantine, quarantine. Quarantine, Mike, Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Oh my God, he's heating up. Like, who the fuck talks like that? NBA Jam boys. Yes. Snoop and Izzy sounded like us, there watching the fight. Yeah. And yo, maybe that's the great thing about having non-professional
Starting point is 00:45:42 boxers fight is that you don't need professional boxing announcers to say what's going on. It turns into like some street beach shit. Yeah, and I can see that. Even exhibitions, you don't need, like I don't really care about any of the technicalities. Oh, right, hook, a left. Who gives the fuck? Let's just talk about it, man.
Starting point is 00:45:55 That's it. That's it. That would be fine. Yes. I want to see, like, I want to see, I think that's a dope concept to have different people hosting certain events. Especially the shit that don't mean nothing. Yeah. I mean something.
Starting point is 00:46:07 It's entertainment. but that literally was just entertainment that day. We were thinking for like for sports that you should be able to choose your announcers, right? So like you could tap into another audio feed. So for example, like, let's say you watch Cowboys games with your pops and you're like, you know what, fucking, I'm going to announce this game.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And then you and your pops just announce it. And then somebody could literally just switch the audio off on their screen and then listen to your version of it. That'd be fire, right? That would be fired. That's a great concept. You know who else used to do that? You know who bought that to the NFL at one point?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Dennis fucking Miller. That's right. Dennis Miller. People didn't like it. I don't remember him. He was, I promise you, if you go back and you listen to those Monday night games, he was calling, he sounds like people sound now. He was before his time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:48 So they didn't appreciate it. They were like, man, get the, you want, bring back John Madden and whoever. You know what I mean? Like, they were used to the announcingness. And but he was just a regular as dude. He was regular on there just talking shit. And it was, it made for good fucking TV. So you enjoyed it even back then?
Starting point is 00:47:03 In hindsight. It was, I didn't, I didn't not enjoy it back then. it just felt like somebody just threw some cold water on you like like you know what? This is like doing podcasting before podcasting. Yes. Yeah. This had to be what early 2000s? Low key,
Starting point is 00:47:17 is that all being an announcer of a football game is just a podcast? Like most of it, they're not doing the play, right? Because football's so stop and go. So a lot of it is just you just talking and what is it like in there? You realize a lot of them aren't really that good. Like guys like Tony Romo will show you. Romo comes around and you realize how useless everybody else.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yes. Yes. For real. Like, you just like, man, everybody's just announcing. Just guessing. Yeah. Romo's good. I like Troy Aikman. NBA. I don't know who the guy is in NBA. Jeff Van Gundy? Oh, no, Jeff is good. I do. I like when Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson host games. Yeah. But I would like to see more. I would like to see Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, Shaq hosting a game. If Charles was announcing a game, dude. he's another one that's why he broke he broke the mold
Starting point is 00:48:09 he didn't sound like everybody else that was sitting around at that fucking desk like the anchornist went out the window I don't want to say professionalism because he's very professional but it's just a certain buttoned up way of doing things he stopped the voice he stopped the voice
Starting point is 00:48:22 yo when did we like create a voice for television and who decided that was the voice all that shit hello at 9 o'clock we have this and so people are actually changing that like you know how like black people do their white person voice on a job interview, whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:37 White people are doing a white person voice on the news. That's crazy. That's why Tori Lane's quarantine radio was so funny because he was mocking and announced her. Yeah. Quarantine. That's how these guys sounds. When you just get up there and fucking talk, you break the fucking mold, man.
Starting point is 00:48:51 When do you think Americans stop talking in like that goofy-ass English accent? Like, because we were English and then we came over here. And do you think there was just like a sigh of relief where they were like, ah, finally, I just get to say hello? I didn't know that. I mean, English people come to America. We were all speaking like English people. Bro, I was speaking of Bonics my whole life, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:12 What are you talking about? Well, yeah, you didn't never have an English accent. I grew up in a Gucci Gullah environment. Right. And by the way, every white person I ever met sounded like the white people on TV. No. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Like how Martin Leathor. Hey, hi, my name's Jerry. Like in my mind, that's how all white people sounded for a long time. That's the thing about like the South. which, and now it doesn't actually don't feel that way, but like I wonder if because there's so much more land, people were, and also obviously history of racism, but like the segregation created way different ways of speaking.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Whereas in New York, like, New Yorkers just talk New York. Yeah, everybody in New York has a New York accent. A New York accent. Except for Staten Island. They got the craziest New York accent. Like, that's on another level. Yeah, except for Staten Island's different. But they, you know, we put them there for a reason.
Starting point is 00:50:04 You know what I'm like. You know how like they sent like the wildest slaves to Jamaica? Remember like they couldn't handle like the slaves that was just too much of a problem? Send them to Jamaica. That's what we did. Make it hard to get there. You got to get on the fucking fair. One bridge.
Starting point is 00:50:19 That's it. You got to go to Brooklyn before you even go there. We can't deal with these people anymore. Make all the fire departments out there. They got 15 fire departments. Did you see them get mad at Pete? For what? Bro, it's this dude named John Tobacco.
Starting point is 00:50:32 This dude is the most Staten Island person. and you'll ever meet in your life. Slickback hair, wild-ass plaid suit. Yeah, I love it. He got mad at Pete because Pete was on SNL talking about this bar that wasn't following the state mandate, right? The New York State mandate for COVID. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:48 He was like, we was there for you with your father. When your father died, we was there crying with you and your mom. You need to come down off your little uppity high horse and, you know, come back down and kick it with the little people. And yeah, yeah. Instead of coming down here as fellow Staten Islanders and standing up for them and bringing a positive light to this thing, what they want to do is go on national TV and try to humiliate the little man when he's down. And to me, that's quite disgusting.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And as I mentioned before, my dad was a member of the NYPD. The king of Staten Island's dad was a proud fireman and a great friend of mine. And I saw Staten Islanders heavily come out and support him, his mom, his family, and everyone else in a time. in need after 9-11 when I cried for his father. So when I hear stuff like this, it hits me emotionally when I think, wow, if you came out of your perch in your affluent neighborhood and came down here and told the liberal left, this is a good thing because it's about our freedom and liberty, we probably wouldn't be standing here today talking about a political prisoner who was the victim of, in my view, a political ambush by the king and his henchmen. And I'm like, yo,
Starting point is 00:52:03 that plate whatever, I don't know what you fucking call it. Whatever that is in Staten Island, that area has the second highest COVID rate in New York State. Really? Close the fucking bar. Like, why are you upset because somebody's telling you the fucking truth? And for you to compare it to being there with somebody because their father died. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Pete's calling you out so you don't kill somebody else's father. Right. What the fuck is wrong with you all? Right. And also Pete made a movie about Stats. He never referred to people by his name. He just kept going to King of Staten Island. Oh, you got to watch this. The dude name is Johnny Tobacco.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I'll check it. Man, the shit is funny as fuck. I will be honest, they're the funniest people in New York, though. Staten Island? Hand is out. Really? Hands out. In terms of, like, just hang out with somebody, not in terms of, like, I'm not talking about, like,
Starting point is 00:52:53 here's my scripted bit. I'm talking about characters. It's Staten Island or if you go to, like, Deep Brooklyn. Brownsville. Deep, Brooklyn, Bushwick, all. Also, like way, not Bushwick. What am I thinking about? Gotta be Brownsville, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Brownsville, motherfuckers. Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep. Coney Island? No, man, where the fuck. Bensonhurst? Bensonhurst, is deeper than Brownsville? Yeah, well, I think it's different areas. I think Benzzer is closer to water.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Okay. And I think Brownsville is like deeper into Brooklyn, like closer to Coney, right? Yeah. So, but those people, like, just hanging out with them, the ball busting shit that they say, the random, like, references. to me, those are the funniest people.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I mean, 100%. It's like when you go to, like, you know, there's certain neighborhoods where you go to when you meet somebody who is, like, too much from that neighborhood. Yeah. You don't meet someone who's like, too Harlem?
Starting point is 00:53:46 You know what I mean? He's like, he's like, he's almost like... As soon as you make eye contact with him, pause. Pause, yo, pause. Why we're talking more than a minute? Yo, chill, talk to a girl, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't talk to men looking each other in the eye.
Starting point is 00:53:59 You know what I mean? You know, dip set. But like those people, as silly it is, they're the most hilarious to be there. Yeah, they are. They are because they're caricatures without being caricatures. That's really who they are. But they just take it to the extreme. I saw somebody post from New York.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I don't know if it was Is Biscuit. They was like, yo, what's father in New York? Is it mad for or dumb far? What's father? And the mad people were like, I don't have a father. See, what you just did? Mad people. No, but you hear what I said, though?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Mad people say, I don't have a father. Yeah. But, yo, you know who the funniest dude is? This guy is so funny on Instagram. Dude, what's the kid? What's the kid's name, Ray, something? Oh, my God, I got to talk about this dude on the pot. This guy, his name is Ray, but like with Matt, R-A-A, like, there's a bunch of Y's.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Al, can you look that guy up? I think I've seen him before. He posted a bunch of, like, random New York Street. stuff. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, you trust in Andrew, boy. This one right here. Okay, this guy right here, he does these rants, okay? This guy, I got to get to the rant. Oh, my Lord, this shit was so funny. And he basically, like, talks about what it was like back of the day growing up in New York. Where's the one that we love, Al? All right. Look, I can't find the video right now. The Instagram is R-A-Y-Y-Y-Y, and then a bunch of underscores. and he does these rants that are so fucking funny, man.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm going to try to find it. But anyway. You find it for the podcast over. Listen, let's pay some bills. Let's come back with the deep dive because I want to talk about this Casanova situation. Not necessarily the situation,
Starting point is 00:55:43 but just the larger context that I think people are missing. All right, let's do it. Let's pay some bills. All right, guys. We'll take a break for a second, pay some bills, man, because we need to get you guys some food. We need to get you guys some food. We need to get you got some deals.
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Starting point is 00:58:31 You got your guy? I got the guy. This guy's so, that's guy so fun. Nickers know that this jacket right here is not your average jacket in New York. And for the ladies back in the day, this jacket was a statement level. And in the words of our parents, you've seen a young lady with this jacket on. She was a fast-ass young girl. But you got the game fucked up now.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Y'all want burghins. I just missed the girls from back in the day who had baby fat jackets. It came to the crib and got to work it. So y'all not understand it. Now sometimes out of 10, you don't know what it was like. to watch your kid walk to your building nice little light skin slim thing with the baby fat jacket basic jeans and dirty ups.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I don't know why y'all always did that fit with this but y'all did it and if y'all was feeling yourself y'all put the lip gloss on but back then this was our identification card every female that had this jacket on we knew she was on go this was her way of telling us we didn't have to like a picture back then you just had to like a sister back then that had on the baby fat jacket y'all females got it all tested this guy's a legend yo
Starting point is 00:59:26 We showed. That baby fat jacket is more than New York, though, boy. Like you what he's saying. But that baby fat jacket, yes. If you had that in high school, you definitely got pregnant in 11th grade. Hey, Taylor, what's your favorite jacket? She had a state property, Joe. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:59:41 I had to be a fat jacket. And I meant to bring it after Thanksgiving, because that is the most warmest jacket still to this day. Was you a fast-ass little girl? No, I was not. I mean, I know your mom's listening. I mean, technically. you were whatever he said he's lying.
Starting point is 00:59:59 You were a fast-ass girl. You know, like, you say to me, you say to me that you can run, but you're a fast young girl, bro. You are a fast young girl.
Starting point is 01:00:12 You are a fast young girl. In track, thank you. No, no, no. What did you used to run? 100. I was a sprinter. Really? That's the fastest of the tracks.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I don't believe it. You are a fast young girl, bro. Taylor too low to the ground to be a sprint. Excuse me. She's below to win. Excuse me. She's below to win. She's like a bullet turn.
Starting point is 01:00:31 My height doesn't have nothing to do with how fast I can run. You sure? Yes. Did you run with the baby fat jacket on? No, I did not. I had a uniform. When you would run, would they be like, damn, that's a fast young girl.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Did you have the same build? Did you have the same build you have now? Yes, Charla. I'm just asking. Just trying to freak figure it out. Bowling balls are fast. What is that? What is that?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Bowling balls are fat? Why are you talking about yourself? You're the one that got a whole fucking. Your, Jack was like a bowling ball. This is baby fat. Shut up. Charles, me and you are racing. You can't beat me in no race.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You can't beat. You can't beat. You think your knees hurt now. You've been complaining about your knees all day. It's not my knees. It's my thighs because I was doing squat. Oh, shit. She was doing squats.
Starting point is 01:01:24 She was doing that new Megan. style you saw that new move making reveal this week you know you said what she was trying to do so troy said Tori said she can't take no dick and he's a liar Tori is a wow boy imagine Meg can't take no dick all that height and no can't stop sorry is a wild I don't know why you would tweet that like he it's like he it's like you his feelings are hurt fuck him but don't even I would be trying to remove myself from that situation I wouldn't want my name attached with that like he's a fast young boy bro that's a You know, that's a fast, you know, boy right there, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yo, how fast is he, dog, for real, though? I don't know. That guy is fast, bro. Wow, he needs to slow down. He needs to slow down. He's too fast. He's too fast. Young boy.
Starting point is 01:02:14 The announcements are a very important part of what we do in church. Church announcements, I just want to tell everybody, keep subscribing to the podcast on the Black Effect podcast. Yes, sir. You can go to the IHart Radio app, type in Black Effect, all the podcasts that's on the network that we've partnered with her up there. Who, we launched, anybody this week? We launched anybody this week. Oh, launching anybody this week.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Oh, yeah, 85 South Show. Let's go! Officially partnered with the Black Effect, IHard Radio Podcast Network, horrible decisions as well. Let's go. Slute the Mandy and Weezy. So, yeah, like I said, just go to the IHard Radio app, type in Black Effect. All the podcasts that on the network will come up. And it's available everywhere you listen to podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Can you launch Zuri? You launched Zuri last week, right? No, it's... Is this week? I don't know. That's my wife's new favorite podcast. I know that much. No, but no, you're right.
Starting point is 01:03:02 We did the interview this week, but, yeah, it was last week. Yeah. Hot Happy Mess Podcasts with Zuri Hall. And make sure you go pre-order Temeca Mallory's book, State of Emergency. Yeah. It'll be out May 11th, 2021 on Black Privileged Shimon and Shouster Publishing. So make sure you go pre-order that, okay? And Black Privileged Shimonin and Shoots to Publish?
Starting point is 01:03:20 Is that a partner venture? Yeah. You're publishing books as well? You didn't know that? Oh, you missed that announcement? I didn't hear that. Yeah, man. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:03:30 You never told me that. I got a book publishing company. You can't even pronounce Schuster. You can't even pronounce it. You know, this guy's got companies. You can't even pronounce. Well, now, I've been in business with Shiam and Shuster, though. For yours, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I didn't know that you did a joint, that's so great. Yes. It's for you. I said, great. Oh, I think you said, brave. I'm not brave. Yeah, so the first release is, Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency. It'll be out.
Starting point is 01:03:54 May 11th. Good for you, man. That's amazing. But you can pre-order now. No. Is it May? Yeah, May. May 11th, 2021.
Starting point is 01:04:02 But you can pre-order now. Oh, that's great. Wherever you buy books, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, all of that good stuff like that. I mean, stuff like that makes sense because I mean, I like books. I read. I'm an author. And once again, I only want to create, goes back to what we were talking about. I only want to create ventures that help me be able to assist and empower other people.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yep. That's it. I also think it's great. Like when you have leverage in a. I mean, what I've always tried to do as well is like when you have leverage within a business, it's like you can partner up instead of just doing things, you know, for someone. I'm going to be totally honest with you.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It's wild to me. Except for Netflix. I didn't really get a piece of that company. But you're forged in a relationship with them. You know what I mean? And you're forging a relationship with them to where I'm sure they're going to want to create more content with you in a future. Well, the way I look at it is also is like, we created this. This is shot in Schultz Studios.
Starting point is 01:04:52 This is produced by Shultz Studios. This is erected by Alex Mia. This is our baby. You know, so it was really, it was really cool to like, honestly, I got to give them credit, man. Like, they were fully hands off on this project. They should be. Clearly somebody up there was in tune. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Now, I don't know if that's me because I don't know what relationship, like a young comic that was just coming up would have because they'd be taking a much greater risk. But, you know, we put in a lot of work and creating content and creating interest. You did 17. You did 17 of these. Right, exactly. So we proved the product. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:27 You got analytics. You got data. You got views. You got an audience. You got hype. You got Joe Rogan. You know what I mean? Come on.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Like you think they're not paying anything. They see what's going on? They're like, who the fuck is this Andrew Shows person? Yeah. Yeah. Now they see it. But I got to give them credit, man. I always give companies credit when, like I remember when, who was it?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Ricky Jervais did that Golden Globe speech. And I was like, yo, you got to big up the exec that put their job on a line for this script because he knew what the blowback was going to be and he was like the content is more important and I think it will work and that takes risk. So anytime a company is willing to let us create and then deal with the fallout of that creation, because all I got to say is everybody gets these jokes, bro, that's all I got to say. Hezzy being Hezzy? Everybody, when I say everybody, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Al, is there anybody that don't get these jokes? No, no, no, no, no. Bro. Everybody, every group gets these jokes. If Andrew doesn't get backlash, I'm going to be upset. We'll see. I'm going to be upset because that lets me know that, damn, Andrew, you didn't go, you weren't full showsy?
Starting point is 01:06:38 This is what I would say. I would say, I think there's always going to be people flying upset. But what we tried to do with these pieces, my stand-up is a little bit more, is a little different than these pieces, right? Because the stand-up gets to be, like, more absurd and, like, crazy and wild. per se, right? Because you're not having to say truth with stand-up. You're saying the craziest
Starting point is 01:06:55 funniest take. And sometimes the funniest take could never exist in reality, but it's just the funniest spin on something. Like when Chris Rock is saying, we should just sell bullets. That's not like a real thing, but it's just a funny take, you know? But with the price on bullets. Make bullets so expensive. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, yeah. Jackson's kind of makes sense. But kind of, you know what I mean? But, and then it's like, so, so, but with this piece, we really try to stay within truth and really find the truth. And what I think is if we did our job right, is that all the groups that we make fun of
Starting point is 01:07:27 will be okay with the jokes because the truth that we're getting at. You know what they're? There's a couple. Nah, they're going to be bad. No, they're going to be bad. There's some wild shots. But there's a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:07:43 But I think the truth is more important. And then what happens is they'll be like, all right, well, they may feel. fun of the other group too and then everybody's getting it. That's what I think. You're using something called Logic Andrew. Yeah, you might be wrong. It's not going to happen. But we'll find out. Hey, we're going to find out. Listen, I'm putting out the thing I want to put out.
Starting point is 01:08:05 That's what matters. That's all the matters for me. That's all that fucking matters, like I'm in control to creative and that's all I'm trying to work on is to create. Everything else after that, how motherfuckers, if y'all like it and you'll add it to your watch list and you say to remind you when it comes out and you spread the word, then it's going to be successful and that's good. But to me, the success is creating the project I wanted to create. Nothing will piss you off more than going in these buildings
Starting point is 01:08:26 and not creating the product you want, going out there listening to them. You're not doing you, you're doing them. That's really what it is. And that's what's actually changing in the industry. It used to be a time they love what you do, but they bring you in, they want you to be something totally different. So you're not doing them, you're doing you.
Starting point is 01:08:42 That is what, that's what pisses you off when you go in there and do them and the shit ain't successful. You're going there and do you, whatever the outcome is, you feel good about it. That's right. That's it. Period. So I can't fucking wait.
Starting point is 01:08:55 But I still want you to do the other joint too, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's shit. If we're going to take it there, take it there, man. Oh, oh, trust me, Cheryl. We're going there. Show us, Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Use that white privilege, God damn it. We're going there, so. Your boy's a little wild, bro. I want to see people say he would never get away with this if he was black. He would never get away with this huge Latino. He would never get away with this huge female. I won't all of it. Honestly, I think we'd get away
Starting point is 01:09:26 that way easier if I was all those. Because white people can't be upset at black people for saying anything. Yeah, you're right. Oh, you dick a damn? What do you mean? You took a damn? What's you mean?
Starting point is 01:09:36 On the special. Everybody. When I say, Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlie, Charlotte, Charlotte. Charlie, Charlotte, Charlotte. Charlotte, Charlotte. I don't think you understand. No stone left on turn.
Starting point is 01:09:46 None. There are certain pictures in the special, you're going to hear a joke and then you can see a picture pop up, and then you're going to pause your Netflix and go, is that, we're not thinking it. Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. You can't even believe something.
Starting point is 01:10:02 No stone left one turn. That'd be a funny-ass commercial. Andrew just turning over a different color stones. It's a black stone. This is a white stone. Here's a pink stone. Which one is this? What is it?
Starting point is 01:10:13 There might even be a rainbow-colored stone that show. A circumcised stone. There's a lot of different stones there, bro. A lot of different stones. I can't fucking wait, man. Put it that way. Listen, I don't know if this is the deep dive or not. I just, I saw everybody having the conversation about Casanova.
Starting point is 01:10:35 And, you know, they were saying something about, you know, what he said in the Vlad TV interview and in the paperwork. They didn't say Vlad interview per se. They just said it was some interviews that they used against Casanova. Right. I want to take this out of Vlad because it's hard to have. this conversation without people saying, oh, you know, you're defending Vlad, whatever, whatever. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I'm not defending Vlad. I'm just speaking about pure journalism. Hmm. I can ask you whatever I want. Yeah. You're not getting indicted based off what I asked. It's what you responded with. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:13 You snatched on yourself. You, and I'm not even talking about Castanova in general. I'm just, I want to have a larger conversation. about how for so long in our culture, we have incriminated ourselves in the wildest of ways. And the FBI isn't just watching Vlad TV interviews. They're watching Breakfast Club interviews. They're watching Adrian Broners' Instagram.
Starting point is 01:11:39 They're watching your Instagram. They're watching your Facebook. You're on Instagram with guns. You're on Facebook, you know, fighting people. There's so much criminal shit that goes on on social media. I get these people donkey a day all the time. I gave donkey a day to some up-and-coming rapper who made a song about scamming people with the PPP shit. And he was really doing PPP shit.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Should you be mad at YouTube for letting him post the video? Is it YouTube's fault? Is it Instagram's fault if you get on your Instagram with guns? And the FBI's like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? If you get on Twitter and you tweet, yeah, man, just had to fucking kill somebody, you know what I mean? Is that Twitter's fault? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Or is it the person who actually committed to act? Yeah. And it's saying it wherever they're saying it. Same thing in the music. We're watching music be used against people in court. We're watching interviews be used against people in court. Yo, how about we just stopped incriminating ourselves? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:41 That's it. Yeah. Like, it's just that simple. You can't blame anybody. At some point, you got to have some accountability. accountability. I saw Pee-Wee Longway. My man Chuck T. posted it. I never watched it until last day, but I saw Pee-Wee-Wing on Vlad TV. Vlad is asking them questions. Vlad's like, so, you know, when did you first start hustling? He was like, hustling. I went to school. I ain't ever did
Starting point is 01:13:01 no hustling. I went to school. You know what I mean? And Vlad's like, yo, it's a lot of blue in your video. You know what I mean? You cripping? It's like, no, I just like the color. How else are you supposed to answer that question? Like, why would you sit up there and be like, yeah, I've been gangbanging for 30 years, you know what I'm saying? I've been a crypt since, you know, elementary school and yada yada. You stop incriminating yourself, people. That's it. Don't be mad at this outlet.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Don't be mad at that outlet. Because trust me, they're watching all outlets. Right. So it does not matter what that person is asking you. It matters what comes out of your mouth and how you respond. Right. Simple as that. So I don't even understand the backlash.
Starting point is 01:13:42 It's the same thing to me when I look at the, Jamel situation. Like, I understand people have a narrative. Right. About black. Right. You know what I'm saying? So being that they have that narrative, they want to stick to that, even if it makes
Starting point is 01:13:55 them look stupid and illogical. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. You know what I'm saying? It's stupid and illogical. These people are sitting in these interviews. They're on these records. They're giving up this shit.
Starting point is 01:14:07 They're the one saying all this stuff. They're incriminating themselves. But there's cloud attest. We got to stop doing that. We got to stop giving people, um, clout for the worst shit. Well, that's up to us. That's the other part of it.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Like, we play, we have a responsibility, too, because we don't listen to the music until you say that you used to kill people or murder or whatever like that. You know, when it comes to, like, that specific genre, like, we don't care about the, I'm trying to think of other, like, we care way more about the athlete.
Starting point is 01:14:37 We want you to be real. Listen, I'm all right. I remember, that was the time. That real shit is bullshit, man. It is bullshit. Because it's not real. I don't even like that terminology. Like, you're only real if you shoot somebody.
Starting point is 01:14:46 You know what they? There was a time where I wanted my rappers to actually do what they were rapping about, even though I know if they actually did what they were rapping about, they would be in jail. Who to rap? Who's the top five? Give me your top five. Top five rappers of all time? Yeah, you have top six.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I got a top seven. Sorry, top seven. My top seven rappers of all time, no particular order. Killer Mike, Ti, Scarface, Young Jeasy, Jayzee, Naz. And I'm missing somebody. Killer Mike, Ti, Ghostface. Ghostface. Killer Mike, T.I.
Starting point is 01:15:17 None of these people are still doing the shit that they rapped about the beginning that made them popular. Matter of fact, for their entire rap careers, they've set aside those things that they wrapped out and make them about outside of Killer Mike. I don't think he was ever rapping about that in the first place. Nah, because it would all have been like socially conscious. Yeah. So my point is that like, we were talking about this on Flagra, a matter of fact, is Jay-Z, if you see Jay-Z in his element, he looks like the coolest person you've ever seen. He's calm, composed. Nothing shakes him.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Even in the elevator, right, with the whole salons shit, nothing can shake. He's unflappable. And then you see him on the jet ski with the helmet and the vest looking like a goofball, right? You see him walking on the beach. He's a goofy, right? And then like, and I really believe that is because what is cool to us is dangerous. It's not give a fuck. It is essentially like pushing away conventional wisdom.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Yeah, because even what you just said, you call Jake Goofy, but that's regular. You're on a jet ski with a helmet. I'm about to justify it. I'm about to justify it. So like, what is cool is all the things that actually don't give you a career, don't allow you to make money, and don't give you longevity. What I think Jay is, and I bet you all those other people we mentioned as well that you just mentioned have a little bit this in them, they're guys who are actually kind of silly, goofy, nerdy. I bet they're nerdy. They learned how to be cool to operate within a space, but it's their intelligence and their kind of nerdiness that allowed them to have this long career. There are very few. I don't even think it's, and I get what you're saying. I don't think it's nerdiness, though. Maybe we're using different words. I guess what I'm trying to say is like... The only reason I don't like to say that because I don't want to label things because people shy away from what they consider nerdiness.
Starting point is 01:16:56 That's fair. But like, you consider yourself a nerd for Marvel, right? I'll consider myself a nerd for comedy. You know what I mean? Like maybe the nerd word is such a bad connotation, but a guy... We're regular. Yeah, but it's almost like we're regular, but we're also able to look and see what is cool. And I guess what I'm trying to say, especially to, like, kids will, like, look up to
Starting point is 01:17:15 these like, oh, I don't give a fuck personality, that kind of stuff. It's like, you don't want to inspire to be that because those people don't last ever. The people who last and they have the careers are the people that are smart enough to see what works, lock into it, but also utilize that intellect to not get caught up in the clout chase that's going to end you
Starting point is 01:17:31 fucking dead or canceled. Yeah, you know what? I think the problem with rapping a lot of ways, a lot of the gangster shit became performatives, right? So even though somebody like J.D. It's like Wokeness. It started out with the right thing. Like, we should be woke.
Starting point is 01:17:48 We should be progressive. And then it becomes performative to get attention. Well, sort of. I think guys like JZ, T.I were really reflecting their life's experiences. You know what I mean? Like those are things that actually they did. They went through. That shit happened to them.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Right. But I think at some point, gangster rap became so popular that people just started doing it because it was profitable. You know what I mean? like like when 50 cent really did get shot nine times. Yeah. Like that shit really happened. Like people act like he made that up.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Like so now it's like, okay, let me do the most gangster shit because this gangster shit is in. And I got to have a gangster story to go along with my music. You know what I mean? Like when Chris Rock made CB4, that shit was very accurate. Right? But I think the performative shit now has turned into people who really were doing it. but they still realize this is a lane
Starting point is 01:18:45 for the performative shit. So even though they're not performing, they just think they can get on these platforms and really talk about this shit that they did because so many people have profited off of something they were really doing. If that makes sense. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:19:05 Yeah, that looks like the lane to victory. That looks like the lane to victory. And if you really went through that, you get on these platforms, you're getting your son. and you talk about it, but you're not realizing, like, bro, you ain't out the clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:19 You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not out the clear, bro. Like, and it's a weird thing about social media. People act like social media is not, like, real. Yeah. Like, for you to actually be doing PPP scams. Unbelievable. And then make a whole song about actually doing PPP scams.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Unbelievable, yeah. It's wild to me. Yeah. To be in the video showing off the applications. All the applications that you fucking manipulated to get this money? Like, that shit is wild to me. So once again, man, don't get mad at the interviewer. Don't get mad at the platform.
Starting point is 01:19:55 You're mad at the person that's incriminating themselves. Yeah, it needs to be a little accountability, bro. It got to be a lot of accountability. It got to be a lot of accountability. And listen, I don't, I don't, and I'm not talking about Kaz in particular. I'm not talking about any. I'm talking about all of us collectively as a culture. This shit has been going on for a long.
Starting point is 01:20:13 A long motherfucking time, bro. A long time. How many more people do we have to see the FBI? Say, yeah, I heard his song. Yeah, I heard him in an interview. Yeah, we saw him on social media. At what point do y'all motherfuckers be like the FBI is Facebook and Instagram? At what point do you fucking say that is the fucking thing that's fucking us up?
Starting point is 01:20:32 You know, us getting on these platforms, acting like the shit that we do is legal. Acting like the shit that we did is legal. Hold yourself accountable, man. Do better. You. You. Can you imagine, like, being one of those, like, FBI dudes who had to listen to hours and hours of people's tap phone calls and then all the sudden, people just start snitching on themselves on Instagram? You know that's happening in those departments. You know what's them old school, bro. You know it's them old school FBI detectives like, back in my day, we used to have to sit on these wiretaps for months. Months and months and months. They would get burner phones and all we'd have to actually do surveillance.
Starting point is 01:21:12 All y'all got to do is go up on YouTube and pull up the latest song. They probably can't even believe it. Bro, back in a day with the New York mob, in order for the wiretap in the car to work, they had to follow that car with another car because the technology couldn't go more than two blocks. Wow.
Starting point is 01:21:31 So imagine you driving around after this Italian dude just listen to him in his stupid-ass mafia conversations all day. All day for fucking hours, months, just to get one or two words. and then these dudes are literally giving you to highlight reel. They go on Vlad and they're just like, yeah, after I killed that person, I started doing this P-P scam. It's like, what?
Starting point is 01:21:49 It shouldn't even get paid. I don't know, man. It's really, really, really, really crazy, yo. Like, I don't know. I just want people to stop doing it because it's really wild. Like, you're really incriminating yourself. You know you're incriminating yourself. Stop blaming it on interviewers.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Stop blaming on other platforms. Stop blaming on other outlets. And I really feel like a larger conversation is being missed here because everybody, people don't like black. So being that they don't like black, they're just stuck on, oh,
Starting point is 01:22:15 Vlad's the Fed, Blasette, Vlad's Fless, Vlad's Fless, Vladfuss. Um, no. Yeah, he's not forcing you to come on the show. You ask him to come on the show
Starting point is 01:22:24 or he asks you and you agree, but it's not. And even if he asks you an incriminating question, yeah, don't answer it. You're not getting paid. Follow your Peewee Longway shows you what to do.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Say anything with Breakfast Club. If I ask you some wild shit, don't answer. Yeah. But do though. Listen, listen. It's kind of fire, bro. Like, when people incriminate themselves, that shit is good content.
Starting point is 01:22:46 But I've stopped. You know what? I'm not going to lie. I've edited a lot of shit out lately. Really? Yeah, because you just don't want to see motherfuckers get jammed up over stupid shit. Interesting. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:55 Are they ever upset? Are they ever like, yo, I came here to tell that story so that I could get clout. Like, stop cutting that shit out. That's how you pop off, bro. You know what I mean? Like, let's go. All right. You know, I'm going to start giving.
Starting point is 01:23:06 You're kind of hurting people's careers, bro. I might be. I'm going to start giving people a benefit of the clout. Give him benefit of the cloud, too. Whatever, man. God bless. With my man, Cass, though, man, I don't want to see Cass get jammed up. Caz is a good dude. You know, when I first met Caz, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:21 Cass had the ankle bracelet on, and he was, like, doing security, just trying to figure it out. You know what I mean? Like, that was his job. You know, because when you're on probation parole, you got to have a job. And that was his job. So, you know, I just, I don't like to see him or anybody in that situation.
Starting point is 01:23:35 That's got to be a really tricky thing. I mean, I don't know what he's done or hasn't done or what he's accused of doing, but that's got to be a really tricky thing, like when you're involved, allegedly, obviously, involved in like a criminal enterprise, but you also want to be a famous entertainer because those things go against themselves or go against each other. Being in a criminal enterprise, you want to be as low-key as possible.
Starting point is 01:23:57 You want to nobody to know nothing about you. But being in entertainment, especially a rapper, you want to be as high-key as possible. Look at the jewelry. Look what's going on. Look at my lifestyle. is somebody needs to make like like you know how big he made the 10 crack commandments they need to have the 10 clock commandments somebody need to make some new commandments 10 clock commandments swirred up because it's weird
Starting point is 01:24:15 like how how you go from the era I grew up in was like yo don't talk on the phone about doing nothing right don't even talk on the phone how you go from not talking on the phone to doing interviews and putting it in songs it's just like that's just weird to me like I'm not going to like this whole shit is weird. And I'm telling y'all, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, all that shit is real life. The feds are on them shit, watching them shit. All them guns
Starting point is 01:24:42 y'all be posting in the fights y'all, you know, videotape and show people assaulting people. All that shit is being used against people in courts of law, bro. All of it. So you can't point the finger at one person. Everybody's guilty. Everybody. If you've
Starting point is 01:24:58 posted a video of a rapper holding automatic weapons, if you've posted a video on your page of rappers, you know, with a whole bunch of drugs around them. You're, you're incriminating. That person is incriminating themselves, but you're helping. So it's just like, leave it alone. Like, we're all guilty. You can't point the finger at one person.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Everybody's got a job to do, right? So, whatever, man. One question. I haven't seen you since you interviewed Obama, and I know you might have spoke about it. Oh, fuck, yeah. Could you just like just tell me how it was like? Yeah, I'm so curious. Yeah, what was that like?
Starting point is 01:25:32 Overrated. Really? Yeah. What? I just love Obama. What do you mean? Yeah, like, was he cool? Um,
Starting point is 01:25:42 he gave you a little pushback. He gave you a little ad adit. No, no, it was cool. Nah, he did. I'm just like, that's what you did. I was trolling. It was cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:50 I was like, yo, get off Obama's dick. Like, nah, it was good. I mean, it was cool. He gave you one little sass. He gave you a little sass once. Oh, yeah, he was like, that's why I got you.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah, I was just, um, I mean, I hate, hate how Democrats message shit, you know what I mean? And it's just like, yo, Obama gets a lot of flack for what he did not do. But it's like, tell people why you couldn't get it done. Right. You know what I mean? And I think, you know, Democrats can, like, I love what they did last week, but I don't
Starting point is 01:26:21 think they followed up. Like they passed, you know, decriminalizing weed in the house. But it's not going to get passed because the Senate isn't going to do it. So everybody's reposting about, oh, the House passed decriminalizing weed, and they're all happy and shit. But Dave's like, no, now since you got everybody's attention, let everybody know, yo, but this shit ain't going to pass because of the Senate. That's why y'all need to go in fucking Georgia and vote for John Osif and fucking Ralph Warnock. So it's just like I hate that they don't understand messaging.
Starting point is 01:26:50 And even in Barack Obama's book, he says that he has a hard time breaking things down in a way that is digestible for everybody. Because he's always, he's a politician. And that's what I got from Barack. You know, Barack is a great person. I just think that what he represents isn't actually what he is. What does that mean? He represents a symbol of revolution because, you know, a black president in the United States of America in itself is revolutionary. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:22 You know what I mean? Just based off the history of this country, everything that we, the systemic racism is country to see a black president is revolutionary. Right. But he's a politician. He's a centrist, probably leads a little more conservative, establishment. Politician. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Nothing more, nothing less. And by the way, you need those. He's a great politician. Yeah. You need that. Yeah. Just don't look for him like he said. He's not Malcolm X.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Yeah. You know what I mean? He's not Tamika Mallory, but that's why everybody plays a part. He said that during an interview. Everybody plays a role. You need a Tamika Mallory. Right. You need Barack Obama.
Starting point is 01:28:04 You need all of that. You need people that are just constantly stirring it up everywhere. Let the radical stir it up in the street so they can make enough noise that we got people in position that are listening to say, look, man, this is what we need to get done to calm that down. I always go back to the King in the Wilderness documentary when Linda B. Johnson, man, he called Martin Luther King Jr. And he goes, what the fuck is going on and watch? They are tearing watch the fuck up. He said, I gave y'all voting rights. I gave y'all civil rights for Jay Wants.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Well, Jay, what's up? And Martin's like, yo, they want that money. You know what I'm saying? It's about economics now. But the fact that Lyndon called Martin, that's what you need. So when Tamika and all them are in the street doing what they do, somebody got to call. President got to be able to call somebody.
Starting point is 01:28:48 You know what I mean? To be like, what do we need to do? Yeah, Lyndon Johnson sounds like a husband whose wife is angry. I got you the ring. I got you the necklace. What more can I do? Is that not what you are when you're in that position, though? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:05 You're married to the game. For the game, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They work for us. We forget that. I never forgot that shit. I never forgot that shit.
Starting point is 01:29:15 They work for us. You know anything about working for me. I want you to work hard. That's right. So you should be making demands. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I mean, even with, it was interesting when Obama did the whole defund the poll police thing because same thing with narratives, right? People have a narrative about you. But the narrative is Barack Obama, don't really give a fuck about black people. He don't really relate to being black, yada, yada, yada. So, of course, he doesn't understand our plight. If you listen to the whole four minutes, 50 seconds,
Starting point is 01:29:46 he absolutely understands what the why of defunding the police is, the concept. Yeah, he's just talking about the branding. From a politician perspective, this shit ain't going to work, bro. The only person I've ever seen answer that question perfectly was Kamala Harris. Yeah. They asked Kamala how about defunding the police. She broke down why resources need to be taken away from police and allocated to the community, yada, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:30:06 And Megan McCain was like, I totally agree with you. Yeah. But do you believe in the funding the police? And Kamala goes, define, yeah, define defund the police. What do you mean? Define what do you mean about defund the police? Yeah. And I'm going to tell you something else.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Conservatives, Republicans, I was looking this up. Donald Trump defunded like 66 programs, right? Yeah. Probably more now, but the article I was reading at the time, it was 66, right? When they defund, they actually abolish. So defund for them really means abolish. That's why they buck back the way that they did. When they heard them say defund the police, they were like, we're not getting rid of police.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Because whenever they cut budgets, that's what they don't mean. They call it cutting budgets. Whenever they cut budgets, or they take money away from something, they're doing that because they know the program can't exist without that funding, so eventually the program goes away. Yeah, that's interesting. So the funding for them actually means abolished. So when they hear defund the police,
Starting point is 01:31:09 they're like, we are not getting rid of the police. Y'all are motherfucking tripping. Yep. So actually, you know, I don't even know what the fuck I'm saying, but it sounded good. And I know what I meant. What I meant is defund the police is good for the radicals. It's good for the activists.
Starting point is 01:31:22 It's not good for the politicians. Yeah. That's it. All the politicians should do is focus on the white. Why? When guys like Barack Obama on TV and somebody brings up defunding the police, don't even, listen, break down why the defunding the police should happen without saying defund the police. Talk about how we need to allocate resources from police officers to reinvest in our communities. Like, just say that. Yes, we need to reinvest in our communities. You know what I mean, keep it on the why. When you keep it on the why, nobody can disagree with it. I haven't heard one person disagree with the why. And if they disagree with the why, they're probably fucking racist. Because there's no way you could tell somebody we should not reinvest into these communities. We should not provide more opportunity. We should provide job training programs.
Starting point is 01:32:05 You know what I'm saying? We should provide better mental health care services for people. We should provide better health care. We should provide better schools. Nobody is going to disagree with that. Yeah. So why don't you, I mean, if you were smart branding-wise, not you, but the people that are in control of these groups, they would change the branding from something that most people disagree with to something that most people agree with. Well, no, I think it worked for them.
Starting point is 01:32:28 And I'll tell you why I work for them because it keeps the conversation going. It does, but it works in the same way that, like, tweeting something woke works. Is it like there's a lot of people who will support your thing, right? So you're, like, tapping into that highway, like we were talking before. But when it actually starts to get to the point where you have to execute that thing, if you change any part of it, anybody who disagrees, none of those people that got your support are going to be okay with it landing in the middle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Right? Because they are so extreme that they only want. want that one thing, when in the reality is if you start in the middle, the ascension is going to be way slower, right? Because less people are going to gravitate to it in the same way that they would if you just hop on the highway. But the long-term effects of this is you actually get the thing done. It's really no different than like Barack Obama policy and like Trump policy. No, the ObamaCare Affordable Care Act. Yeah. So it's like like Trump, all the thing, not all, but a lot of things that he did, he did through executive orders, right? And you don't need any
Starting point is 01:33:25 politics to do that. You just sign it. The problem with executive orders is the next president comes in and he writes an executive order that your executive order. Barack wrote more executive order than Trump, but my point is that doesn't matter. Like Barack, when he put in Obamacare, he implanted that in our political system. It is so interwoven that Trump still couldn't take down the whole thing, right? Because he actually used politics to get it done. And our system, it is very difficult to get things done. But when they're done, they're locked. And it's hard to get them unlocked. So the same thing with the movement. It's like if you start the movement in a place and you really tie and interweave, I guess
Starting point is 01:34:03 I'm thinking interweave all these different sides and political factions into the support of it, it is going to be hard to tear that apart. But if you just get a little blip over here that's like, deep on the police, I think Minnesota did it. And then all of a sudden Minnesota is having all this stuff where they're having to bring out outside police forces to help them with crime that they're experiencing. I'm just saying like if you overcorrect, if you have that immediate knee-jerk reaction, you have that overcorrection, you're always going to come back.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Yeah, I just like it because it gets the conversation started, but I just think that the people who actually can change the system have to know how to have the conversation. You know what I mean? And if the activists on the ground are saying to fund the police, which is causing people on mainstream TV shows to ask these mainstream politicians about it, be like Senator Harris. You know how to answer the fucking question.
Starting point is 01:34:50 You know what I mean? Talk about how resources do need to be reinvested into black and brown communities. You know what I mean? Don't get into a back and forth about the fucking slogan. Because you know what it sounds like? When you say things like, I don't agree with defund the police, you're talking about the slogan. People think you're talking about the actual why.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Oh, you don't agree with reinvesting in the black and brown communities? Like, that's a pointless fucking conversation. Even call out the slogan. You know what? The slogan is incredibly misleading. So if I say here, I agree with defunding the police, all the people who think they know what that means are going to be like. like how the fuck could you want to defund the police?
Starting point is 01:35:27 This is what it means, and I agree with that. I just hate the name because it's so polarizing, and I want this to be something everybody supports. Police support this. Yeah. You know, so that's what it is. All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because I've got to tell you about a liqueur.
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Starting point is 01:39:45 hates your partner. Can you make a relationship work if your family hates your partner? Can you make a relationship work if your family hates your partner? Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. I really just blacked out. All right. I thought you was like, damn, thinking about your own relationship.
Starting point is 01:40:09 No, no, no, no. I was like, you was thinking, so how should I answer this? No, no, I just blacked out. Yeah, of course. I mean, if you love that person, you're married to her, you know, or they're married to you. and yeah, absolutely. That person is married to your family? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:40:21 I think it's in your family's best interest to love that person and try to get on board if you truly love them. They make you happy. That's right, because I'm going to stop fucking with you. Exactly. This is a person's going to be like the mother of my children. That's right. And that's what I'm sleeping with every night.
Starting point is 01:40:33 That's who I'm in love with. That's what I plan to spend the rest of my life with. Love your family. But y'all don't want to fuck with her. I ain't fucking with y'all. What if they have a good reason, though? What's the good reason? I would have the man's, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:47 has an aggression problem but be beating her yelze. Well, that's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't say that. You're talking about illegal activity. You didn't say that. You're asking me questions.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Y, you're just saying, right. You're like, yo, can you, what you should say? Yo, can your family love your partner of your partner beat your ass every day? Yeah, no. No. You should get out of that. You shouldn't love that person.
Starting point is 01:41:07 We're just talking about like- And he just is a. Black men don't cheat. What are you talking about cheating? All right, I'm done with this question. This is cheating shit. All right. So next one.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Yeah, go. What's your fast ass. PM. You're going to forget that S, bro, and it's going to be World War II. You better stop. What I say? Fat ass?
Starting point is 01:41:24 I didn't say that. I said fast ass. I said he's going to forget the S and it's going to be World War III. I'm on your side. Yo, come on. Charlie wants to be thick like me so bad. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:41:35 Yo, hold up. First of all, I'm thinking in you. You're not going to lie. Charlotte, you're kind of a fast young boy, bro. You're a fast young boy. Shail, don't make me stand up. You, I'm thinking in you.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Yo, hey. You just short. Hit that new Megan move. Hit that new Megan move. Nah, these jeans are pop. I ain't learned the new Megan move yet, but that shit she was doing. That shit is like, what's that, was that Dora that was doing that dance? Dora?
Starting point is 01:41:58 Who's the cartoon meme that they always use? I don't know. You know the showt up with the girl with the glasses and the hair and she's doing this. Oh, I don't know her name. Man, Megan was doing that shit with her ass. I don't remember that. It's not hard. That last one where you squirt it like that?
Starting point is 01:42:13 Don't do it. I've done it before. Nah, you ain't never done that, you ain't never done that, you haven't never. You ain't never. done that tale. You never thought that before in your life. There's no, you cannot do that. My man knows. Anyway. That's how you snatch off the rubbers right there. That move at that last little twist at the beginning, yo, that shit is All Star Week and approved. Since you got on black jeans and I got on black jeans, let's take a picture from the back.
Starting point is 01:42:35 And see who does it better. No, send it to your boyfriend. Say, which one is me? Yo, let's do that. That's fire. Who got, who's me? You're going to be humbled today. You're going to get humbled the fucking day. Let's go. This is so fun. You sit there. You're going to get humbled today.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Come on, let's do it. Okay. So, P. Honestly, honestly, don't make me get in there. Shit. You know what I mean? I'm out here. I'm more of a long distance running kind of girl, but.
Starting point is 01:43:07 You definitely are more long distance. It's not that fast. Ready? PM. Jeff wants to know what are some of your real life superpowers? Real life superpowers? I think mine is patience. I have really good patience.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Not just, I mean, not just even in life, but just with, yeah, in general, with people and everything. I got, I got patience. I might be a little too patient, actually. Don't get me wrong, I'll get my shit off and I'll vent, you know what I mean? But I'm very, I will vent several times about something before I either decide to confront it. Or I might even come to the conclusion. I don't want to even confront it at all. I deal with that.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Back away from it. So I think, I think for me, it's patience. Patience is a superpower. I think a lot of motherfuckers now get fucked up because of a lack of patience. That's what we're talking about now. Like, just running the social media with shit. You know what I'm saying? Just running the Twitter with shit.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Like, just be patient. Like, give yourself a beat. Take a break. Take a breath. Yeah. Start playing the seeds. Yeah. All you motherfuckers getting caught up in PPP loans.
Starting point is 01:44:11 You weren't patient. Yeah. You got to that million at one day or that $100,000. You know what I'm saying? You just got to that one day if you just do, be patient. Yeah, do the work. Yeah, I would say for me, problem solving, I actually, I look forward to it. I kind of flourish in those environments.
Starting point is 01:44:31 You know, like if there's some sort of chaos or some sort of problem or some sort of issue, I think that I have an elite ability to like handle that issue and like work around it and find ways to get around it. and that's really helped me in my career. It really helped me in life. And I feel like when you welcome challenges and problems and you get excited by them, you start to feel like things work out for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:58 But the reality is, is like you're not crumbling under the pressure of problems. You're using those problems to succeed on a different level. So for me, it's, yeah, it's like problem solving. Yeah, that's a great, great superpower. I want to learn to live without conflict. I'm so used to like... thriving in conflict.
Starting point is 01:45:21 You love it. I don't know if I love it. You do it. You're going to be the guy fighting in the old people home. I already know you. I know you. No, I don't know why I got to stop. I've always been like that.
Starting point is 01:45:30 I like, I just got to, something got to be going on. You know what I mean? But I'm at the point in my life where I don't want conflict, but it's still always conflict. And nowadays, it's not even me. It's just other people got so much shit going on. You know what I mean? Whether it's family shit or friends shit,
Starting point is 01:45:47 everybody always got some shit going on. It's just now like the stakes are bigger. It's not like being in school where it's just like, you know, you pull the fire along. It's my reputation on the line. Yeah, you know what I mean? No, but now it's real shit like it was life. Man, somebody, you know, like dealing with people
Starting point is 01:46:02 who got drug abuse problems. Like, you know what I mean? Shit like that. So it's just like it is always some conflict going on. And you just at the point with like, man, I don't want this shit. But no, I take that back. The shit that you,
Starting point is 01:46:13 that's out of your control, you got to deal with. But there's other conflict that you may just cause on yourself. Like, I just like, fuck her. Like, I'm fucking with fucking with Nilela this morning for no reason. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:46:25 For no reason. Just like, for no reason. I call him a nut-ass bull. And then he was like, what do you say? And I said, when you're from Philly and you call somebody that's name starts with Nud-ass,
Starting point is 01:46:35 it hits difference. Like, nut-ass Nick. Nud-ass Nancy. I'm like, nut-ass Niles. I'm like, oh, shit. Taylor, let's just put in the group chat, nut-ass Naila, SMH, right?
Starting point is 01:46:48 For no reason. I haven't even figured out the whole plan. I haven't even figured out the whole plan. I'm just like, so I put nut-ass Nilela shake in my head. Taylor puts Nud-ass Nile's shaking in my head. Taylor goes, I mean, Nile is right. What the fuck are y'all is talking about? What the hell is going on?
Starting point is 01:47:01 I'm like, check Twitter. I'm like, I'm like, check Twitter. So she calls me. I'm like, yo, somebody leak your nudes on Twitter. No. Some shit on Twitter, yo, they're saying it's you. She's like, what?
Starting point is 01:47:18 Right? So I'm like, yo, you need to go check. So I hang up the phone. So I just put it in group chat. I mean, Nile's news on Twitter, yo. And so she goes send receipts. So this is the picture I sit. Because I'm not lying.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I know she wasn't lying. Hold on. There's a pun right there. This the picture I said. That's Nile's the Lion King, right? So she's naked, right? So I'm not lying. Nila's nude you're on Twitter. Now, mind you, Nila's like, I'm sitting here talking to my mom.
Starting point is 01:47:47 I break out in a cold sweat. I got to get up and leave the table. She's like, my mom's like, oh, that Charlotte, let me talk to Charlotte. She was like, no, not right now. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, why did I fuck with her like that? Why? And you're bored.
Starting point is 01:48:02 You be bored. What's the reason? You're fast, bro. Give us one more. Let's get one out of here. You're crazy. You're crazy as dude, man. Every morning he says something.
Starting point is 01:48:19 D-L-T-P-D wants to know if you could travel to any past decade, which would you travel to and why? The 90s and let them know what the fuck is coming. Yo, letting y'all know right now, all this classic shit y'all doing is amazing now. But in 20 years, they're going to get y'all the fuck out of here for this shit. Wait, hold on. So, wait, wait, so based on that one, then,
Starting point is 01:48:41 What do you fear most, or do those spares, what do you fear most about the pandemic life? Nothing. You don't fear anything? Nah, pandemic has been great, honestly, even through everything. I wouldn't change. No, I mean, you know, it's hard to say you wouldn't change things,
Starting point is 01:48:56 but then that would be being selfish because you don't know why people made the decisions that they made. You know what I'm saying? So, yes, I had two friends commit suicide this year, Jazz, my man Shaq. But who am I? You know? to tell them what decision and choice they made, you know?
Starting point is 01:49:17 Do I agree with it? Of course not. Right. Do I wish it wouldn't have happened? Of course I do. You know what I mean? But you can't be a person of faith. You can't be a person that believes in a higher power and not take the so-called good
Starting point is 01:49:31 with the so-called bad. When I live that I live that way, when I say that I don't believe in good or bad, I just believe in everything being part of the process. I truly mean that. I've never seen anything be wasted. Life is like a pig, bro. I don't eat pork, but motherfuckers use every part of that shit, for real. Like every single thing that has happened in your life ultimately serves a greater purpose.
Starting point is 01:49:56 You may not even realize that shit until 10 years from now, 20 years from now. If you make the decisions to look at it that way. I think that's a perception value. We were talking about that the other day, show me, on euphoria, about death and everything of what? Like things are going to happen, right? And they're going to happen whether you think they're good or bad, right? Like death, whether that's good or bad, depends on which side of the war you're on, right?
Starting point is 01:50:22 If someone dies on the other side, you're like, I guess we're winning the war. Someone dies on your side. It's like, oh, my God, this is a tragedy. So, but death is going to happen. Perception is what we make of it. And I don't know, that's the thing. I guess even back to like the problem solving stuff is like, even with this, the, even with the Netflix thing, is like, I stopped being able to go on tour.
Starting point is 01:50:40 This is what I do for a living. This is how I make money provide me for myself. I could literally go, all right, I guess I'm just going to wait until comedy comes back and chill. You pivot?
Starting point is 01:50:47 Or I pivot. I find a new way where I could get something out of it. And then instead of hating the pandemic for ruining my life, I'll turn that moment into something that will take my life
Starting point is 01:50:57 to the next level. And I think that... Stay on that for a second. Because think about it, right? You probably have mad shows lined up. You're looking at your calendar, adding up how much money you missed. Like, fuck, some motherfuckers are wallowing self-pity.
Starting point is 01:51:10 You was like, nah, fuck that I'm gonna create. That's what creative dude. That's what Jazz. You used to always say that, create something. Jazz used to say that shit so much. Whenever it was something fucked up going on, anything, jazz would be like, yo, create something. Create something.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Where's that video out? This I said the beginning of fucking, the beginning of COVID. It's so crazy. This girl posted it. But you created, right? That's the thing. And now, look at this.
Starting point is 01:51:32 I bet you that Netflix special? Change the way that you react to. This is it, ready? You cannot change a situation. Change the way that you react to it. Just the beginning of Colon. Okay, shout to Duvold, man. He put that in my head.
Starting point is 01:51:43 You can't change the situation. There's another we can do that's going to change it. If you get quarantine, you get quarantine. How are you going to use that fucking time? Create. Create, create, create. Put out some dope shit. You have the internet.
Starting point is 01:51:56 They're not taking away your internet, not taking away your electricity, not taking away your food, not taking away your water. They're basically putting you in creative jail. And sometimes when you are forced, right, to create, or you have absolutely nothing to do, you get the most creative. I have my best idea is when I'm in the shower or when I'm on a plane with no internet. I got no distraction.
Starting point is 01:52:14 I'm just sitting there, right? That's how I know that there's been no internet on a plane when we get off the plane and Al has three ideas for me. Yeah. Right? I was thinking, why don't we do that? That's what's going to happen to you. So we can look at this like some Doomsday shit
Starting point is 01:52:26 or we can look at this like, oh my God, I'm going to create my masterpiece. Create something, man. And the L part about what you created, I guarantee you that Netflix special probably paid you everything you lost in not even lost, everything you didn't get in show money. We did all right.
Starting point is 01:52:43 We did all right. I didn't do it for the money, to be honest. It was just, it was a good opportunity. It was a great opportunity, man. Create something, man. That's what jazz flights always say, create something. And that's why even through this pandemic,
Starting point is 01:52:54 I'm like, all right, I'm just going to set up everything for the next 10 years. That's literally how I'm looking at it. I'm a podcast network. Book imprint. The vertical me and Kevin launched at Audible. Yeah, amazing. I'm going to sign on the breakfast club for the next five years because this is a platform,
Starting point is 01:53:11 you know, that enables me to continue to, you know, empower other people, you know what I mean? It's something that's bigger than me. Like, this is a people's platform, you know what I mean? I have my dude Shaka on the day, you know, trying to get a kidney, trying to get a kidney transplant. You know what I mean? Because he needs a kidney transplant. But I know he's going to get it because I've used radio for that before. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:53:31 So it's just like, this is what I love to do. So I'm just setting up for the next decade. That's literally what I'm setting up for the next decade. Create something, man. Go build something, man. I love that. That's it. I love that, man.
Starting point is 01:53:44 That's it, Taylor, gang? Take us out of here, Charlotte. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. If you think we're just a couple idiots
Starting point is 01:53:53 who don't know shit, you're wrong, but we're going to let you think you're right because you always got to appear dumber than your mark. You play a sucker to catch a sucker. Adam. Have a blessed evening.

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