The Brilliant Idiots - This Is They

Episode Date: September 19, 2019

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All-Star, Cleveland Cavalier for now. Kevin Love, okay? It's called It Happened to Me While we all need to talk about mental health Go to 92Y.com to figure out how to get tickets, okay? Okay, okay. I was in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Oh shit.

Never been to Santa Fe before. Wait, never? Never. You never just went down there for a nice weekend? Never. With the boys? Nah. You've been to Santa Fe?

You been to Santa Fe? No, maybe I did a college in Sanofi, but anyway. I went to Santa Fe because my man Elvis Duran, my radio godfather, he got married, this weekend, got married to my man Alex, Alex Carr. I believe Alex's last name is Carr. But I went to this wedding and it made me say to myself, first I thought, man, I need more gay friends.

Yes. Because gay people rarely know how to party. But you had to think about it. I had to step back. Because we talk about identity a lot and we think that somebody's identity makes them the person that they are or makes their level of, you know, are their ability to have fun, whatever it is. It has nothing to do with being gay.

It's the fact that Elvis Duran is rich. Yes. Okay. It is the fact that Elvis Duran was doing things. Elvis Duran gave away a car at his wedding. He gave away a car to whom? First, he told everybody to look under their seats. So everybody reached their hand under their seats.

He was like, no, I just want to see everybody looked like they was digging in their ass. Right? That'd be funny if he had dicks just standing up. But to be honest, I don't even remember how he gave away the car because at this point in the night, I was drunk. I just know he gave away a car. Right.

to one of the lucky people that he invited to his wedding. That's the level of, that's the level of bawling and stunting that Elvis Duran was doing at his wedding. Is the car in Santa Fe? Because all I'm thinking about is logistics. How do I get the car back on that? He said he's going to get his shit back to wherever you are. He said all of that on state.

When the wedding was over, it's like a mariachi band comes through, plays in the wedding. How do they feel about playing at the gay wedding? I have no idea. I mean, Santa Fe is all, is damned the majority brown. Anyway. Yeah, this is very progressive Mariachi band. Yes, but that was the illest thing about it, right?

Forget all of this stunting and stuff. Yeah. You know, and I read Elvis Durant's book, it's not out yet. It comes out of October 1st, I believe. And it's called, Where Do I Begin? And he talks about in the book how, you know, finding love, you know, which is one thing that anybody can do, right?

You find love. I think it's tough, but yes. I mean, yeah, it is. And then he talks about nurturing it. No, he talks about not knowing, not realizing, like falling in love but realizing it can only go to a certain extent because at the time you couldn't get married in America. Right, right, right, right, right.

So think about that. Like, think about how out of the realm of possibility that is, if you're a gay person and you find love and you couldn't even get married at a certain point. So think about how fulfilling it must feel to finally be able to do that. And I just was thinking about that, like, you know, we all live in our own privilege, you know what I'm saying?

Right. You know, whether you're straight, whether you're white, whether you're a male. Like, we all have our various privileges. And you don't realize how much of a privilege it is to be able to get married. And he was finally able to do that this weekend. And I just thought that was, I just kept thinking about that. Like, damn, we really all do live in our own privileges and we take other people's struggles for granted. The things that we don't even give a fuck about.

Like, we have the right to get married. And we've had it for so long he didn't want to. We avoid it with our whole lives. Yes. But some people, that's all they want to do. Yeah, we want, you know, the forbidden fruit, right? You want what you can't have. Yeah.

And you know, idolize what you can't have it. Yes. 100% you should be able to have it. It's just like the right to get mad. Like if you want to be, listen, everybody has the right to be miserable. That's the thing. Everybody has the right to be happy. So here's all depends how you look at your marriage.

Is it true you guys are married? Is it true that once you get married, you stop having sex? Hell no. Really? So that's a gross stereotype. I don't can't speak for everybody else. Now, I don't look like Chris. I'm still attractive.

So my wife still wants to have sex with me. Chris? But Chris has always looked like Chris. So it's not like he got married and then turned into Chris. Do you know what I'm saying? She knew he was married all the time. He said that's not true. So do you have sex?

You continue having sex through marriage or not? Yeah, I mean, I would say it slowed down. That's the stereotype. Maybe this is not you, Charlemagne, right? Maybe. I mean, it slows down, but not because it's, because of, cosmetics and superficial shit. I mean sex with your wife, by the way.

I'm quite a lot. When you've got kids and, you know, your wife is doing other things and you're doing other things, you're busy being husband and wives and fathers and mothers. It becomes practical. You got to organize. But you got to make time for that shit. You got to take these vacations.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to go off for the weekend with just y'all too and just keep that flame going. You know what I mean? So this is what I never understood about like conservative America in their approach to gays, right? Is they were always like, you know, the gay sexual appetite is crazy.

All they're doing is just, you know, stuck each other's dicks and fucking each other in bathrooms, all that kind of stuff. And it's like, well, if you have the opportunity to let them get married and stop all that, why not just give it to them? Let's be clear. Yeah. All men love getting their dick stuck in bathrooms. Men are going to avoid, if you, it doesn't matter what your sexuality.

I understand. I understand. I understand what I'm saying. It's the male sex drive doubled, right? That's why you would assume that there's so much going on, right? but my point is if we know a way to stop sex or slow it down and it's marriage, just give gay people to marriage conservatives. I get what you're saying.

Seems like an easy fix. I just think it's about love. I think marriage is the symbol of love. Like it's really making a commitment to somebody. Why? It's not. That's bullshit. The idea that it's a symbol for love is nonsense. You think you love someone more once you marry them? That's the point.

It is letting the government know that you're married so that you can get a tax break. That's the only thing it is. You know how much you have to love somebody to say, hey, man, you can get half if shit don't go right. I don't say you giving up half. There's a pre-nup. I don't know. What are you doing? Yes, you do.

I'm just saying most people in general. I don't have a fucking pre-nup. Huh? I don't have a pre-nup. My wife can get whatever she wants if shit don't work out with us. You don't have a pre-up. No, for what we didn't do. Oh, that's why you don't cheat.

You should have told everybody that before you put out that song. Black man, don't cheat if they got the pre-up. That should have been the line on. I don't cheat because I don't want to cheat. You don't cheat because it costs. Nah. That shit expensive now. Back in the day.

I mean, it costs when you talk about, you know, the heartbreak you're going to call somebody that's loyal to you. You know what I thought about, man, Nick? Dudes are more loyal to their homeboys than the woman that they go to sleep with every single night. Like, I won't cross you. I won't lie behind your back. I won't do you dirty, but you'll do that to your woman that you go to sleep with every night. That's the dumbest logic in the world. Yeah, but we ask for less.

What do you mean? Your homeboys ask for less. Your homeboy's not going to be upset. if you hang out with another homeboy. Yes, he will. Y'all you, yes, they fucking will. What? Hell, yeah.

Weird homeboys, man. For real? What do you mean? Depending how this shit is, yeah. You got friends who will call you up, like, wax will call you up and be like, yo, why are you hanging out with Duvold this weekend, not me? Nah.

Not like that, but if it's somebody like, I, say for example, it's somebody that may have spoken some shit about me. You know what I'm saying? I mean, have to fuck you fuck with that clown ass. Oh, but that's fine. That's fine. Yeah.

Yeah. But I'm saying all that to say, find you some gay rich friends and go to the way. How was the cake? Because there's been this whole big thing about, you know, bakers not want to make cakes for gay weddings. Really? Oh, yeah. But I've always wanted to try a gay wedding cake.

How is it? I ate a lot of the cake. That shit was amazing. There we go. Because they cut it up in little squares. And they just had it sitting outside. Yeah. I took a bunch of it.

The funny part is the irony is The only one I didn't like was one that had the cream in the middle You passed on that one? I've been into it, I was like I didn't like it But the cake was good Oh, you're talking about like as far as like putting the bride And bride or the grooming groom on the stuff? No, they won't even do it at all

Because yeah, yeah, yeah There's a bunch of these baker, Christian, Muslim, Religious bakers are often like, I'm not doing it, bro. Listen, love wins at the end of the day. I know that shit sounds cliche to say, but if you love somebody, you want to spend the rest of their life with them, you should have the right to do so.

I'm glad that they got the right to do so. And that's the illest part about it. When you look at that, you're just like, yo, that's just two people in love. Yeah. It don't matter about sexuality, the genders. It's like, that's just two people in love and it's so clear to see.

Love is something that is so easily recognizable. You can just look at two people like, yo, they're in love. You know it. It's there. And you can look at two people together and be like, look at them stupid motherfuckers. They're not even going to last.

So you can see both energies. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And you look at them. You're like, yo, they're in love. That's all I saw. Two people in love. I think that's the trickiest thing with a relationship is like it's so easy to confuse like like and excitement.

Yeah. Like the beginning is always exciting. You meet someone new. You want their, you know, validation in many different ways. And you're like, I must really like this person. But you actually don't in a lot of times. You're just so excited that there's this new person in your life and there's this new kind of like challenge or goal. and maybe like getting this person like you.

And I think that's why relationships fizzle out at that certain point because once that excitement goes away, you got to enjoy being around that person. Yo, that's so ill, because I remember the first time Elvis ever told me about Alex and we was getting drunk on the roof of some hotel around here. And he was telling me about this young dude that he had just started dating. And he was like, I think I like him.

I say, we have fun together. He was like, you know, we got drunk the other night and woke up and it was blood all over the pillow. And you know what they say, it's not a good night if you didn't, there's no blood on the pillow. So I remember being like, Elvis, who the fuck is day? Sam Smith. Who is the day that says this?

But 10 years later, they happily married. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like love. You got to like hanging out with someone, man. You got to enjoy. You got to have fun with that person, man. That's the number one thing for me is I have to enjoy being around you. Yeah.

It can't be a chore. I can't be like, oh, I got to hang out with my girl. I got to want to hang out with you. Yeah. Enjoy that time. And that's tough. It's tough to find a person. as an adult, as an already, like, made adult.

I often think, like, the relationship you're in is actually more productive in a lot of ways, which is, like, you guys grew together. You've known each other since you're fucking 17. Absolutely. So it's like, now you're 40, and you guys have become the people you are at the same time. Yes. You know, but you can't forget that, though. Of course not.

Along the way of the journey, you have to remember that people are growing and evolving. So I'm not the same person I was 10 years ago. She's not the same person she was 10 years ago. Of course, but you guys grew and involved together, though. Yeah, and you got to get to know that. the new you and I got to get to know the new her every ever so often. But you guys are instrumental in making that new thing. Yeah.

Right? It's like you guys are finding new things that you enjoy together. You're finding new ways to communicate. You're finding all this shit, right? When you're 35, right? Like before I met my girl, right? I'm 35. I got a hope that I meet someone who went through certain things in life that just so happens,

good things and bad things and just so happens creates this individual that happens to be what is it what is it not synonymous but like compatible compatible yeah yeah that happens to be compatible with me

and all things I went through in my life even though we haven't went through any of those things together that's like needle in a haystack type shit like I think it's awful I think we look at relationships

especially in like New York and L.A and we go like oh you're supposed to wait man like my parents waited forever you're supposed to wait to your 30 you're supposed to wait to your 40

it's like I don't know man I waited 17 years before I got married for marriage I'm talking about a relationship Oh yeah, yeah, got you. Like, you had kids, you invested in this person's life. But you can't, and that's the thing you can't predict that, though.

Like, you don't, like, if you meet somebody right now and you want to be with them, y'all going to be together. Yeah. Like, there's no, oh, my going to wait. No, maybe that's what it is. You know, like, I often find, like, you know, girls will complain about how hard it is to date in New York City. And it's like, it's not that, like, all dudes are hoes or whatever, but it's like you're dating

complete strangers. Everybody you date had a completely different, upbringing from different parts of the fucking globe. And you're upset that you go on three dates and you're like, damn, why don't we have something? It's like, you know, how unique that would be you meet a stranger from another part of the world that would just get along with you perfectly? And by the way, that person you meet got the same reservations that you got.

They've probably been in relationships before and the relationships didn't work out. People probably broke their trust and beauty. So both of you all got reservations. So that's how you got to approach it. And I think it's important to like have patience for reservations. Like anything I've jumped into is. serious as relationship where you're responsible for feelings that's just stressful like when you're in some shit whether you like to believe it or not you're responsible for that person's feelings

you can make them feel horrible but you know dudes out here a lot of us are just like ah whatever she's tripping this that that's the whole point about being submissive like people women hear that word submissive and men hear that word submissive and we automatically think you just powing down to somebody all submission means is you're putting somebody else's needs before your own That's what I'm supposed to do with my wife and my kids. That's what she should do with me and the kids. If it's mutual submission, if it's mutual submission. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

People act like being submissive is so wrong and you shouldn't be submissive. That means you're weak. No, it just simply means you're putting somebody else's needs before you're fucking on. Right. Simple is that. Yeah. Yeah, Taylor was saying that they use the definition wrong or they just use it only in the negative way. Yes.

Like as if being submissive is wrong. No. I'm opening the door for you. I'm submitting myself to you. There's a fine line between like chivalry and submission in like the negative way. Submission don't mean bondage. It don't mean do what the fuck I tell you to do whatever I tell you to do it. Bow down to your man at all times.

No, it simply means putting somebody else's needs before your own. The same men should be submissive to their wives. Wives should be submissive to their husbands. That's it. My wife is my number one priority along with my children. Yes. As long as there's a two-way street, then it's fine. if it's a one-way street, then you could look like a bitch,

then you could look like a punk, and you probably are one. But if it's two-way, you can't... Yo, if somebody's willing to do anything for you, it's very easy to do anything for them. If somebody say that again? If somebody's willing to do anything for you, it's very easy to do anything for them.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, got you got to... You know what I mean? Like, when you know that person, you're like, yo, I need this, like, I got it, don't worry about it. The second they ask for anything, it's like, don't ask me twice. Who are you telling?

You know what I'm saying? Like, yes, absolutely. And, by the way, don't even ask me because you know all I'm trying to do is make you happy so if you want something just get what you want because I'm easy breezy

I'm not tripping and by the way you know what I want because we've been together so long so let's just make it easy for the both of us and make the decision please I'm submissive as a motherfucker I'm at the point when anybody who knows me

they know to ask my wife is he going to be there you know what I'm I'm saying? Is he going to do this? Yeah. Just call me. We'll make it happen.

Like, yeah. And I'm cool with that. I think there are things that you have to be assertive about, though. Like what I think? I think it's a balance, right? I think, like, is that yin and yang shit? It's like, yeah, I think your girl needs to know that you're submissive in certain areas, but she needs to know you're assertive.

You put your foot down. Anything life or death I handle. Right. Anything that's serious, you know, going to the wrong place. Yeah, I give you an example. I remember being a Grenada one year. And, you know, when we go out, we get the boat. You don't what I'm saying?

We'd be out on the boat, we'd be out on the boat, whatever, whatever. Yeah. A little light yacht, something like that, you know what I'm saying? But for this particular moment, we hadn't met the people. Light yacht? I ain't going to let you think I got a boat. I'd never been to Grenada.

I was the first time I went to Grenada. I went to a Grenada. She invited us to go. We went to a Grenada. So I didn't know the people to like rent the boat boat. So I was just talking like, yo, let's do a sunset cruise, whatever, whatever. And they pull up in like some dingy.

Yeah, with the motor. I'm looking at this shit. The motor's out. And my wife's like, let's go. And I'm like, nah. Nah, we're not doing all that. But if it was up to her, she'd have been like, fuck it, let's get on the goddamn thing. And then we might have all drowned.

Right. Right. So, but little thing, I'm saying, things that are life for death, things that, because women have blind spots because women are, you know, nurturers and they, they're, they're, I don't want to say naive, because naive isn't the right word. They just don't see a lot of the dangers that we see because they're not looking for them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

When I walk in the room, I'm automatically. looking the way to shoot is that. Yes. Where's the fucking threat? Yes. In this room. She's not doing that. Yeah.

You say what? She's saying you to do that. I can't hear you, Taylor. She's saying she looks at you to do that. I love how Taylor staying off the microphone. I'm glad you're listening to SoundCloud comments. Thank you, Taylor. We almost read the comments.

I did not want to do this, by the way. I did not want to put you through that. But Taylor was like, let's read the comments that happen on the soundplod. I love comment creeping. But listen, I just want to say, Elvis's wedding made me want to get remarried. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, because financially,

I'm a little bit more better now. And, you know, it's really just fun. And I think that going back to what we was just talking about, when you've been with somebody for so long and you're growing and you're evolving and you're constantly growing to love this new person, you know what I'm saying? Because like I said, I'm not the same person at 20.

That was at 30, now I'm my 40s. And it's the same with her. So it's like we're constantly growing to love these people that we are. Like, yo, why not do it again? And do it fly. Like, I want to have a fucking Marriacci band at my wedding. Dude, I love saying Marriachi. I want people to leave my motherfucking wedding and then go out and it's a bunch of vendors.

He had all the New Mexico just in the hallway, giving away shit, guitars and all kind of shit. I want to give away a car. I want to have donkeys walking around with shots of tequila on their back. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got to take a shot of tequila off the donkey. You know what I'm saying? Dude, it's so funny, man.

And say, I don't like the carpet in here. Get rid of that shit. And re-bottle the whole shit just because you can. Because it's your big day. Even though you've got a house in Santa Fe any fucking way. That was the fucking man, bro. So he really bawled out. Man, come on, man.

Dude, I was talking about how to do a wedding. And I'm very fortunate, right, because I'm in a creative field. If I want to flex my creative muscle, I got stand-up, I got these podcasts, I got these different products I can do it. And I've, so I never felt a certain way about the wedding because it's like, I already have all these outlets. I don't need to like take that on. If my girl wants to do that when the time comes,

go for it, I got you. This is your day. Just flex. You know, and I often feel like people who don't have those creative outlets when the wedding comes, they're like, oh, no, I got some creativity. I'm going to show you how shit rolls. That's a good point. I think it happens.

I feel like I dropped the ball. You know what? You did. I was there. My shit was basic. Yeah, it was basic. I wasn't involved, though. It was basic.

Listen, here's the thing. It was basic. but it was authentic. Yeah. And there are like distinct moments I remember about it. I remember Kente trying to give a speech. That shit was hilarious. Stupid.

But that was hilarious. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? The wedding itself was very pretty. Yeah. You know what I mean? The ceremony was a call it? Reception.

No, no. No, the way. I don't fucking remember. I was there, though. In the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, whatever it was. Anyway, point is, and the town that you did it in was right.

If you asked me. Yeah. Yeah, that's home. Yeah, that was romantic. It was beautiful. But you can stun, I could have stunned a little hard enough. It's a different thing. It's a different thing.

So, like, so the other day, we're just having this conversation, just about weddings in general. I was like, what would you do with a wedding, right? And you know what I would fucking do? If I was to do something, let's just say, I think I would, like, recreate a kind of burning man situation, right? Where it's a weekend. I tell everybody the rules and the principles.

They, we basically rent out like a place by a lake. We rent out all the land. And we have a place where people can stop. And you have to pick up your supplies. Now, we pre-purchase all the supplies and they're there, but you have to grab what you think you're going to need for the next three days. And everybody's surviving on their own. That's for the win.

This is part of the food lake. So I'm going to have all the water to food. This kind of said, you go stop there. We're going to grab it. And then we'll have tents that aren't fully set up yet. you at least got to put a couple rods. We're going to do most of the setup, but you need to be invested in your survival.

And then what I want to have is, I don't want it to be one of those things where like, you have to be here at seven, you have to be here at nine, you have to be here today. I'll have a few things that you know are going to happen, but I want to have like secret events that like people find out about four in the morning,

by the water. Basically you want to get married at Burning Man? I want to recreate my own and have like my friends and like have a bunch of people who are aware of it and people who aren't and have people get lost in it because I have enough attention on a regular basis. I don't need it to be about me, my wife. But it's your wedding.

It's not about you. It's about the right. Or my wife. But I truly want to share an awesome experience with these people, and I want them to have a fucking great time with it. What you'll realize is weddings are for your significant others. Yes, it's for her. They're not for you.

And I'm totally okay with that. And I was like, listen, that's just me if I was to throw it out. It's for the larger family. It is. It is. This type of thing. driving sounds amazing. But it's not...

When the 78-year-old aunt has to show up. So what Chris is... I'm not coming to that. But I've seen a great gift. It could be a cool bachelor party. Could be a cool bachelor party. But that's... So that's the thing.

Like, maybe it's like... And as corny as joint bachelor parties are. Maybe there's some joint bachelor party shit right there. But like... Bachelor parties for people who never got pussy, though. Nah, bachelor parties are for your friends. I don't have no bachelor party for what my life has been a bachelor party. Yeah, but like...

It's not for you. That's what I realize. That's what I realize. That's what I don't get no pussy. Yeah, but they do get pussy. They're married and they're like, yo, let me just live this life one more time. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

One weekend, we're going to Vegas. Is it cheating if you get your dicks stuck at a bachelor party? It depends what floor are you on the hotel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What if you don't pay? What if your man pays for you to get your dicks stuff? Well, you didn't, you didn't want it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, true.

You didn't really have anything to do with that. True, true. Yeah, I think that's faithful. No, I can see your point. Anyway, I just think it would be cool, but I agree with you, Chris. It's like if you're accommodating family, that's not the one. but I'll be honest, I feel no responsibility to accommodate family in a wedding whatsoever.

Me, that's what it becomes about. Yo, that's what it becomes about. I think if your girl wants it to be that, her family is paying for it. Because remember, back in the day, the family paid for it. So it was like, you better believe we're going to have a say. We're putting up all this money for it. It's the dowry.

It's the dowry, real talk. But now, if you're doing everything for a wedding, I'm paying for the wedding, we don't need to invite my third cousin to this fucking wedding. Like, this is just the people I want to be there. And the people that want to be there. to be there. Don't do me no favors by coming to my wedding. That's why I'm getting married. No fucking favors.

I'm getting remarried in five years. Okay. Destination wedding. Destination's great because it weeds out to people that don't want to go. That's Santa Fe is perfect. And then you could ball out because you just... Oh, I'm doing it in Anguola. Regardless where it is. But you could ball out a little bit because it's like, hey, listen, if you wanted to put all this money up to come here, you must really fuck on. That's all I'm saying. If you can afford to get here, then you're supposed to be here. That's it. If not, I don't fuck with you like that. No way. You were going to have. a gay wedding.

It's come full circle. Gay weddings are amazing, really? Yes, and what's so funny, I was... Both tuxes? Yeah, they both found suits. They both had on suits. Both suits, they both went suits, right?

Yeah, they both found on suits, right? What's so funny is I met, I was with Angela Rye, we was in D.C. Friday, because we've done it for the Congressional Black Caucus. Right. And I was moderating this panel about can cannabis licensing be used for drug war reparations. But Angela had this brunch, and it was these two women in the brunch. And I was just randomly talking to them. He was just having a conversation.

Me and my wife, we just talked to them, whatever. And he was like, well, y'all headed. He was like, oh, we got to go to Santa Fe. And he was like, oh, we love Santa Fe, yada, yada, yada. And I was like, yeah, man. I said, I'm excited. This is my first gay wedding. And they were like, we were Angela's first gay wedding.

And I'm like, oh, I didn't even realize y'all was a couple. I was just having a conversation. And then I felt like a dickhead. Because I'm like, why did I just randomly bring up that we was going to a gay wedding? Because it's a unique experience. Because it's a unique experience. Yeah, yeah. about unique experiences.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You're right. And here's the thing. By going, you're supportive. What do you mean? You don't go to a gay wedding if you hate gay people. I didn't even think nothing of it.

I just love Elvis Doreen. That's what I'm saying. Meaning like when you bring it up, like yeah, I'm going to, it's my first gay wedding. There's no inherent homophobia in it because you're supporting the marriage of two men.

I just love Elvis. I mean, yeah, you're right. It was a new experience. I've never seen that. You know what I'm saying? But you think about this. It's not just a new experience for me. It's a new experience for America.

Yeah. How long has gay marriage been going on like four years, three, four years maybe? Has it been that long? Around 10 maybe. No. No, hell no. Not federally. It was doing state.

Yeah, federally. Yeah, it's only a few years. Yeah. Dude, I watched this movie yesterday called the Goldfinch. I've seen that. With Andy Murphy? No, no, no. That's gold figure.

Got you, got you. So a bunch of movie, Goldfinch, right? And new movie coming out. It was really fucking brilliant movie. But it's, it's, it's, how do I how do I say it? It's funny when you don't even

I don't know how to even word it. It's funny when you realize your own bias. I basically realize my own bias. Explain me, you talk to me. So I watch this movie. And part of the movie there are these two kids. I think they're maybe like middle school,

maybe like freshman in high school, right? And the movie jumps around in time a lot. But they're doing like, you know, a bunch of drugs, you know, trying acid, drinking, smoking. Their parents are neglecting them. it's really fucked up, right? And there's this one scene where one of the kids is going to run away from home and go to New York.

And he's fucking 14 years old or something like that and his best friend who's been doing drugs and acid with and all this fucked up shit, you know, stealing, doing this one. And he's about to get in the taxi and leave and his friend walks up to him and then kisses him on the mouth. Okay.

Right? And my initial reaction, I was like, why the fuck does dad have to be it? They're kids. They're fucking kids. Do you need to show that? They allude to the fact that there was a couple before? No, no, they were like, and I was like, what are you throwing this in here for?

They're fucking kids. So you're kissing what I was going to say. There's one way of looking like that, right? And I'm sitting there and then my girl's just laughing. I'm like, why are you laughing? She's like, look, because you didn't say anything about them doing acid at 14 and doing trucks and drinking vodka. Because that has been normalized us. Exactly.

Dude, but I realized my own shit. Like, oh, fuck, you're so right. Like, I had no problem with them doing these horrible illegal things. things that kids should never fucking do at 14 years old. And the second they kiss, I was just like, conditioning, though. Why would you let kids do that? Conditioning.

Is that what it is? Yeah, when you grew up and you hear Eminem say, what did Eminem say, ew? You know, he said he was wrapped about two guys kissing and be like, ew. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, stupid shit like that. Like, it's conditioning, that's all. But.

I think it's changing, though. I mean, just watching my own kids, they don't, like, every. Because it's the new normal. Exactly. So every year, three times a year, they get to choose their pronouns in school. Not just them, the entire school. That shit is so dumb, though. Okay, let's pay some bills and come back.

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Visit boostmobile.com, all your nearest retailer, for details. Okay, now, Chris? Listen, maybe I shouldn't start out with saying that's so dumb, but that's usually my... Well, let Chris finish his point. Yeah, yeah, so go. So let's educate us on this pronouns thing and choosing they or the or... Well, I don't know if I can educate you. All I can say is that that's something that they each do three times a year, and they don't really think it's a big deal.

So three times a year, everybody can flip their gender. Right. I think the idea is they're trying for somebody, because kids change as they grow, and I think they're trying to make the opportunity for somebody who changes their pronouns that opportunity. Okay, so Sam Smith came out this week as non-binary, right?

Yes, we explain to the people what non-binary is. I do not fucking know. Well, we had a good, last... You don't think you're male or female. Yes. You just are. Last week we had a... But he's not asexual because he's got a boy...

Well, here's the thing that's interesting. You're non-binary, right? Once you're non-binary, meaning you're not male or female. female, you're no longer gay, buddy. You could only be gay if you identify as a guy and you're into guys. Yeah, I'm not even about to go down this rabbit hole because I really don't understand it. We had, last week we had my man David Johns. We had two people from the trans community.

Nala, Nala, Nala, I can't remember Nala's last name, but Slua Nala and Carmen. I can't remember Carmen's last name either. And we had Malik Yoba. And they were on and they were trying to explain to us. the trans world and the language and the lingo. I'm trying to understand this non-binary. They were talking about that too because that's their whole thing. And a lot of women got upset at them because a lot of women were mad because I think it was David, if I'm not mistaken.

David said that there's no such thing as gender. Gender is a social construct. Gender is something that is assigned to you by doctors, right? Okay. If I think deep enough about it, it could be a problem. point there. Let me explain for everybody who jumps down my throat. Gender is a label, right? So you're born, you got a penis, they call you a boy.

Right. Whatever. Male. Male. You're born. You got a vagina. They call you a female. They call you a girl. Those are just names, right? So gender, yes, that might be a social construct. But sex, the sex, is biological. Exactly. The sex of what you are is not a social construct. You know what I'm saying? And I think people got mad at mad at David because he said that.

And it almost kind of like just dismisses, you know, if you're born a woman and you're happy with being a woman and you're proud of being a woman and you embrace being a woman, it's kind of like just dismissing it. And, you know, I saw a lot of women saying things like, so I got overreeds for no reason. I get periods for no reason. I can get pregnant for no reason.

Like, you can't just take away our identity. He's separating the way you feel and what you physically are. So the sex is what you physically. are, meaning I have a penis. That means my sex is male. But gender is this idea that... Gender is labeling it as male or female. Right. Gender is putting the color blue for boys and pink for girls.

Boom. That's all social construct. And you know what? That is completely right. That's true. Social controversy, it's like there's no reason why boys are blue and girls are pink. And that can flip. Look what Harlem did. Yeah.

All of a sudden boys became pink and girls, you know, I think probably still did pink. But it doesn't matter. We add those things. Now, those things are indicative of traits that you see in the sexes. For example, you often see a more nurturing quality in girls. Like, they're not playing with dolls because they want to. They're playing with dolls because they have a natural instinct. I wonder about that, though.

But they've done these studies. They've done these studies. I have two daughters that hasn't stood up with my. That's what I'm saying. I wonder about this. But they've done extensive studies. They've done extensive psychological studies about, you know, what kids will do when you give them these types of things.

And, like, you know, if you give the girls, the dolls, they'll start, like, making their hair and they're still, like, petting them. But what if you did that with guys? And they start making them fight each other. And then they break their arms off. Like, every guy knows how to take the he-man character's arm out of the socket. What if you don't give the guy a he-man? What if you give the guy a Barbie?

What's the difference? Because Barbie, Barbie. He-Man got bigger tits than Barbie. No, I'm saying. Bobby is a woman. So he may treat the woman doll different than he would the he man doll. You know what I'm saying? Maybe, I don't know.

I don't think he would. I think that there's a natural proclivity for most people, not all. What if you make the Barbie scissor? If you what? She makes the Barbie scissor. Oh, I did that for sure. Definitely. Them long legs.

I mean, you're definitely a cisgendered heterosexual. What I don't understand is this. And again, I would love to have someone here to. to get us to talk to talk about it. But how do you not feel like anything? How do you know what you feel like? I don't feel like a guy. I just feel like I feel.

I'm always wondered about that. What the fuck does it mean to feel like a guy? I asked women that. I'm like, is it offending when a person says, I feel like a woman? Because how would they know what the fuck a woman feels like? If you're not a woman, it's not like you can sit down with that person

and then they start describing feeling like a woman and then you'd be like, oh yeah, that's it. Like, I don't know what a guy, I don't know what, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know what feeling like a guy feels like. And I can tell you why. I don't either. Like, I can say something like I love, everybody knows I love girlfriends. I'm a girlfriend's fanatic.

Yes. They know I love girlfriends. Yes. But if I say that, guys would be like, you're gay. Well, let me ask you this question. I'm gay because I like watching a show that has four black women? Yes. So I don't understand what that.

even means. Like, I don't know what it means like the thing. I feel like a guy. Why don't you watch real man programming. Yeah. Football. Like Oz. Where guys in tights tackle each other. That's what men do. But no, that is, that's what they think. Right. Well, well, that gets back and that's why the shit gets confusing. What, what the non-binary people would say is, the only reason you like football and these types of things as a guy is because you've been conditioned that way. Conditioned that way. And I would make the argument that there are a certain things that are inside of us that help us lean in that direction. Now, I grew up in a dance family. I went to the ballet young. I watched my parents dance. I was surrounded by this super

effeminate dance world. I did not gravitate to that, even though that was my environment 100%. I was playing basketball. I was doing all this guy shit. Now, my immediate environment was all effeminate dancing. It didn't affect me. Why? You called that guy shit, but think about it. No, no, girl shit. I think that's... Oh, girl shit. The dancing is girl shit. Not that you said you did a bunch of guys shit.

But I did, I did the traditional guy shit. Things they say are guy shit. The things they say a guy shit. So there was something... Now, granted, maybe my outside environment, my friends influenced me more, but my inside of media environment did not make me embrace these things more. So clearly maybe there's something inside of us that guys that maybe yearns for competition or, you know, physical contact. I got into fight sports.

I was really, when I came from a family that wasn't about it. So explain that. You know what's so interesting about that? I agree with everything that you're saying. But think about when you get older and you start to like embrace your what they call sacred masculine or you're the, I don't even know if I want to call it divine femininity because I don't know if it's feminine to just learn how to be vulnerable and learn how to to deal with your emotions and start doing the healing work on yourself.

Because those are things that I always saw women traditionally do. But now you're saying that's a construct. That's what I do. I don't know if it's a construct. No, you've been told that that's a feminine thing because that's the social construct of it. But it was in you all along. By the way, I don't even know if it was a feminine thing. It's just that I only saw women doing that.

I only saw women doing the work on their self when it came to like mental health, when it came to emotional well-being, when it came to mindfulness. I only saw women do that. Like, it's just like going to get a pedicure or manicure. You only saw women do that. And then you're like, I like getting pedicure. Dude, I like having clean now. I like getting my shit cut.

It's so funny because, like, women, I know so many women that will just get a massage. Like, they have a tough week and they'll just get a massage. And my reaction to that is, women, you just don't develop, like, a hunchback like a man. Like, that's what men do. Like, our back hurts. And then we just slowly curl up into, like, question marks because we never address any of the issues that we ever have. The sausages aren't just the women thing, though. Bro.

We get them. Come on. It's very rare. Shots! Come on. Women ain't invent that happy ending, bro. That's not a massage. It's a massage first.

To be honest, that will make you lean into your back problems. That'll be fixing your posture. Even your toes are curled. I love getting massages. I actually wanted to get a massages this weekend because we were staying at a hotel and the El Dorado Hotel and Spa

in Santa Fe. You got to take advantage. I'm like, let's go to the spa. I'm like, I'm calling him. I'm like, yo, can I get in today? My wife is like, I don't want to go get a massage. I'm like, fuck it. And I said to the way, my wife doesn't want to go.

Bye. And you said no. Yeah. So here's a question. Have you ever done that couples massage thing? Love it. What is the point of that? It's amazing.

My theory, the only reason they have a couple's massage is so that your wife knows you're not getting whacked off at the end. Nah. Why else would you be in the same room? Togetherness, serenity, peace. But you're not together. Your face is in the donut. No matter.

It's just the energy. Because if you're all together, you kind of like, you just want to experience it together. Like when it's done, when you both y'all finish for that hour, you look at each other like, yo, that shit.

But you could do it in the room right next door. What is the idea about the couple's messiah? It has to be some marketing play. There's no reason it makes any sense. I enjoy it. I just think it's dope. More so than if you were in your own room, there's anything different?

No, because you zone out. Like, it's a level of steel and it's just a level of peace. Maybe it's just the fact of doing it together. I don't know. It's like you don't take two different planes. if you're going to the same place. Yeah, but you've got different seats.

You're not having a couple seat. Hey, you want this couple seat? You're not going to sit on the plane and have your wife in commercial, I mean, and coach while you in first class. You, you? It's my job to get us there. You decide your company. I just think it's something to do together.

But we're getting off track, though. Okay. We was talking about the pronouns. Yes, day. What do you want? Yeah, yeah. What would they like us? What?

We don't need you to talk. You're not going to hear me. Yeah, I can hear you fine. We're saving you. We don't want the listeners to hear you. Those are the people who complain. Go, go, go, go. You know how you just ask, like, what's being a guy and everything else like that?

Yes. So does that take away from when people be saying, or when guys say, oh, I have testosterone. That's why I am this way about it. Okay, so there's a good question. Okay, let's tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just had to filter. We just had the filter.

We didn't want the question go directly in your ears. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we just had a nice little buffer and now that's a decent question. Y'all can listen to it. Go, go, go, go. Now, don't fuck it up, okay? Say, do you use the same words you just used, all right? I hate you guys. Now, what I think about the chicken sandwich is, based off of what you guys are just saying about what is being a man. So does that take away from being or having testosterone how guys say you guys have testosterone?

That's why y'all act the way y'all do. So basically you're asking about the way, which I think is a very, very reasonable question, is the biological differences. men and women we know are different. We have differences, right? So even if you're a man who identifies as a woman, you truly cannot feel like a woman because you don't have the genetic makeup of a woman. You truly cannot know what it's like

to not do a pull-up. You can't do a pull-up. Now, by the way, I know some girls that have do more pull-ups than guys. Simone Biles. My home girls, me can't leave some ball, but they will wash you with pull-ups, bro. Come on, bro.

Bro, if I show you them on the ground, you'd be like, God, but their Olympic track runners, they D's... How do they identify? That twins. By the way,

why would you want to pick a pronoun that Calid has already made stupid? Like, Calid make the day the haters. Why would you want to be vague? You don't want to be a day? Dude. But still, though,

Cali's repositioned that word. Like, why you want to be they? Yeah, they is a trick one. Yeah, yeah. The other thing, this is the thing, And this is the moral of the story for me when it comes down. We need to get a they in here, though. Can we have a they in here?

I don't know what a they is because this is my thing. I saw Sam Smith said at one point he wanted to have a sex change, right? Yeah. So if you wanted to have a sex change, then that means you're changing your gender identity. Right? No. That means you're changing your sexual identity. Gender is the social construct.

No, I think you're changing your gender. Gender changes first, and then you change your sex to meet the gender. Right? Gender is the one where we could pick. I don't even know. All I'm simply saying is if you want to call yourself they or them, then why are you changing your gender? You should have both genders. Is it to be whatever?

Like, it shouldn't matter is what I'm saying. No, what I'm saying if you want to be they because that's multiple, you got to keep the dick and get the pussy. Huh? That's they. I don't know what you're talking about. That's them. Here's my thing with all.

This is what you say to your girl. You bet, yo, bring that pussy over here. Right? That pussy. But if you were like, yo, bring them shits. Oh, you can just say bring that to me. But if it's multiple, you can't say that. It's that's.

Say those. Bring those. Bring those genitals over here. Bring those to me. Listen, the moral of the story for me is this. And I thought about this after we had the conversation with David Johns and, you know, Carmen and Nala and Malikiova. I don't understand it, right?

Right. And that's fine. But this is what I do understand. I understand their right to exist. And I understand that they should not be getting killed. but simply being who they are. That's it. Nobody should be getting killed.

That's baseline. It's not to some people those shows. I know, I know. But we all agree that nobody should be getting killed. We all don't agree because it is some people out here that's killing people just for being whatever it is that they are. They're killing you because you're black. You got somebody but might kill you because you're white. Like, kill you because you're Jewish.

But we agree that that's wrong. Yeah, we in this room. Yeah, we agree. And there's some people that don't. We, us. Okay. All right, we us agree. Dude, it's a lot.

It is a lot. And that is my point. We all must be patient with each other. I'm telling you, please read Malcolm Gladwell's talking to Strange's book, and it's about how none of us know how to communicate with each other because we're all too busy yelling at each other and we're all too busy acting like people should just be educated

on these things that we're not educated about. But I'm going to tell you something. If you don't have the ability to learn or if you don't want to learn everything, All you simply need to know is everybody has the right to exist and nobody should be getting harmed, discriminated against, or killed because of who they are. I agree with you. I agree with you.

If you're an adult, do whatever the fuck you want. If you want to have those big fucking holes in your ears, do your fucking thing. And I'm going to tell you something. I used to always say, whenever shit like that comes up, I'd be like, I don't care. I don't get a fucking care. I don't get a fucking gay.

But I'm going to say something. They said something to me that made a lot of sense. And I had to restructure how I say it, right? It was like when you say you don't care, it's like you're just being dismissive. Yeah. And it's like you're saying, you're like a white person who says,

I don't see color when you know racism exists. What you should say is I don't care about your lifestyle. Because I don't, because I do care about your life. You understand what I'm saying? I do care about your life. I just don't care about your lifestyle. Sleep with who you want to sleep with,

identify whatever you want to identify as. Do you? Simple as that. Yeah. I mean, if I'm being completely honest, I don't care. Just about all of it. But you don't care about you. You care about them.

as a human being. No. But I don't, I don't. But I also don't care about most human beings. It's not like, I don't care about the straight guy. I don't care about the gay guy. I don't care about the trans. Like, I just don't care that much.

Not that I'm asshole. I'm just being honest. Like, we really don't care that much. We can act like we care about all human beings. And then they're just bombing hospitals in Yemen. And we're all like, oh, yeah, like life is good. Is there a new iPhone coming out? I get what you're saying.

I get what you saying. I get what you saying. Why are we acting like we fucking love everybody. No, no, no, no, I think in theory. I'm not mocking you. I'm just saying like you know these people. I think in theory, we do love everybody, but we're really only aware of what's in our circle. Exactly.

We're aware what's here. So if you're in my circle, guess what? I love you, buddy. I got you. You're cool. But if you're in fucking, I don't know, New Mexico, I'm not thinking about you, Doug. We don't care about the slaves that are making our iPhone. We don't care.

Part of life is not caring. Yeah. Think about how difficult it was for Professor X to hear all the people's thoughts in the beginning. That's Karen. Nobody wants that. When we hear about bombings in other countries, we don't think about the innocent lives that would kill. We hear the word insurgents

and we don't think, man, those are men, women, children, days, thems that are getting killed. You know what I'm saying? I get what you're saying. We only care about things that are in our immediate circle. And if it doesn't directly affect us,

then we're not even thinking about it. That's why we don't care about global warming. Because it's not in a circle yet. It's an Arctic circle. And none of us live over there. I don't care. I'm not going to say I don't care about global warming. I'm just going to simply say,

I don't think we can stop it, bro. And you know what? Okay. The earth is the earth, baby. Okay. This shit opens up right now and swallows us whole. Okay. There's nothing we can do.

It's fine. It is an earthquake in Los Angeles. There's an earthquake in New York right now. Okay. There's nothing we can do. That's it. We're on the third floor. Are we good?

Hey, what's up, man? Grandma, what's happening? You know what I mean? Nipsey, what's happening, my brother? Peace, man. Everything is good. My home boy, Jarrell. What's up, brother?

Good to see you, man. That's it. Hey, guys. Good to see you. By the way, that was one of the, you know, at Elvis's wedding. He had somebody given, I forgot the guy's name, And I told him how great his speech was because he was a pastor, but he was comical, right? Yeah.

And he was talking about somebody's uncle or dad that died. And he was like, I know he's looking down or knowing him, maybe looking up. And I'm going to tell you why. You know why that's a bar? Because we always acting like people in heaven. They ain't all there. Everybody ain't in heaven. If you believe, now, I don't believe in heaven or hell.

I'm just saying that that's the thing, heaven of hell. Why do we act like everybody's in heaven? Why does the pastor always find a way to get somebody in heaven regardless of how fucked up they were? Isn't that interesting? Like hell's empty. Like nobody want to live in hell or nobody has to live in hell. Like hell got all this vacancy, right?

Nobody there? Heaven's stacked, but hell got all this vacancy, right? I see. Satan just down there by itself waiting for companies. That's it, tons of room, wait for investors. Satan at dinner, there's nobody there at all. It's just Newark. It's just a block.

They're like, I can't wait until they arrive. All right? Satan wants some pronouns. Satan wants a group. He's accepting anybody at this point. Come on, man. Listen, if you believe, that's why I hate about religion.

You can't believe certain parts of religion and not believe all of it. Bro, some people in hell. I don't care how much you loved him. If you believe in hell, it's some people that you loved. Where is hell? This is actually an important

physical question, where is hell? Because if heaven is in the stars and in the sky and in the clouds, and we know that we live in a spherical world, there's clouds surrounding the whole thing. So where's the hell? Beneath the oil. It's beneath the oil? Yes.

Which why you say that with such confidence? You just know. You've been there and came back. So here's a question. So died of Lyme disease and stuff. for a little while and then swam back up over the oil. Yo, son, I had a crazy thought. I had a crazy thought.

You want to know this thought? I think I was tripping. But you know how like when you die, you see the light? Yeah. What if like, you know reincarnation where you live again? Yeah. So like when you die, apparently you see this white light. I heard about it.

Okay. Now, what if that's actually not a white light? What if that's reincarnation and that white light is just all the sperm that you're swimming towards the egg with? Yeah, right? Yo, tell me that. Don't make a little bit of sense. Swimming through CUM.

Right, you're like, keep going. I'm coming back. That's it. Right? And then when you don't officially die, your sperm didn't make it, but you're still alive in this life. This could be in.

You could be running it back. You can be running it back? You ever wonder what all that slimy shit is that's all over a baby when they come out to womb? You don't even know what it is. Placenta? but it is like pre-birth? I don't know what that shit is.

I like Andrew Stewart. Yo, dude, that's your dad's calm. That white light is sperm, bro. That white light could be fucking sperm. So that's what I'm saying. Hell, we got no place for hell unless hell is inside the earth. Here's another crazy thing. I've had a couple crazy thoughts of like, okay,

I'm watching this building go up in Lower Manhattan, right? And it's blocking the view of this other skyrise. And I'm like, man, how much does that fucking suck? Right? That you bought this probably million dollars. apartment and all of a sudden another building's coming up and it just completely blocked her view. And then my girl goes,

that's why you got to check for the air rights. And I go, what? And she goes, yeah. Some people own the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember? First of all, how absurd is that? That you can buy the air. Yeah, that's why certain buildings will only let you build up to a certain height. Because they

purchase the air. Who do you purchase the air from? Who owns the fucking air? Yo, Jesus, you out there cut inside? Deal? Real talk. Yo, God wants to know, Jesus. Real talk. The devil down there.

Your father wants to know. Are you out here cutting the side deal? Son. Son. How absurd is it? That's what God would say to Jesus. Son. What the fuck are you doing?

Out of air, Jesus. It's out of air. Yo, real talk. In that moment, I'm going, oh, that's how you become a billionaire. You just got to invent a price for some shit that doesn't even have a price at all and isn't even sellable. Right? You just invent money.

When you sell. air, you're inventing money. And then I, and then it fucking hit me. I'm like, holy shit, what's Bitcoin? What's cryptocurrency? This motherfucker is just inventing money. That's why I'm not investing in none of that shit. Why?

Because I don't know what the fuck it is. We have no clue. What do you spend it? I don't know. Where do you spend Bitcoin at? I don't know. I don't know about it. A lot of smart people try to explain it to me.

Me too. And I don't get it. I can't get it. I don't get it. But isn't this crazy? Like, we can invent. The whole idea of real estate is fake. The whole idea of borders, look, I was in Yellowstone, I was reading, I think it was

a crazy horse is a book about crazy horse. Yep. And one of the biggest issues. Explain crazy horse again, crazy horse is that a leader of the Indian leaders who fought back against the white expansion. And one of the biggest problems was the Indians or the Native Americans had no concept of the idea of a border. The whites would say this is the border.

They said there's no. We go where the buffalo goes. When a buffalo goes there, we go there. This is all of ours. The earth belongs to all of us. We stop at the mountain. But this is the line. that we can't cross and you own this from...

They didn't understand. Chris. It was fake to them. Dude, Chris, everybody goes like this, and this Colin Quint had a joke about this, but everybody's, you know, when the Europeans bought Manhattan for the Native Americans,

so everybody talks about how the Native Americans made this horrible deal, right? Because they're like, they traded Manhattan for a couple necklaces and some shells and some pearls, right? What idiots? You have to understand,

the Native Americans thought they won that deal. Yeah, why you call it them idiots? They didn't know anybody. No, no, no, no, no, no. They thought the whites didn't know any better. The Native Americans during that deal were going, these idiots think you can own land. Right.

We're fucking idiots. We got free pearls. We have free necklaces because you think you can own. No, we can own land. And they found out very quickly that you can. But the point is, we make all this shit up. So if we want to be fucking billionaires, the three of us in this room right now,

sorry, you guys are cut out. Three of us in this room want to be billionaires. We should just think of the next thing that is nothing that people will be willing to buy? Well, not even any willing to buy, willing to use. That's what social media is. Okay, keep going. Somebody looked at these smartphones and was like, okay, these motherfuckers got these

shit in their hands all day long. Let's give them something to do. So that's what these mobile games come from, these apps, these social media shit, that just keep us on there all day long, occupying our fucking time. Holy shit, Charlemant. Because we have no. Followers likes. That's it.

People buy followers. That is imaginary. That's air rights. No, it's not even air rights. I'm actually buying the rights to your rights. I'm seeing your ego. I've given you a way to constantly get your ego fed all day, every day. The validation that all of us human beings seek on a daily basis.

Here you go. Oh shit. Here goes your Facebook. Here goes your motherfucking Twitter. Can you pay rent in ego? No. Can you pay buy food in ego? No.

But we're still willing to pay for it. Yeah. It's like, does your daughter's ever play any video games where you can buy things within the video game? Yeah, that's how Fortnite is. My daughters don't play it. But that's how Fortnite stays rich. Think about that. You are buying a fake thing.

You're buying a thing that doesn't exist in the real world. Like when I buy a hammer, at least I have a hammer. I don't know how that Fortnite. Oh, yeah, yeah, you got to think, though, Fortnite to these kids is a world. So if you can buy, I think they call them skins. So if you can buy your Fortnite character or a hat, or buy them a new dance move.

We're living in the simulation. Now, that's fucked up. Talk to me. I tried that with me early and I was like, trying to buy shit on that. I was like, no, I'm not buying something that doesn't exist. But we do it, Chris. If the kill for Lyme disease wasn't on the game,

you wouldn't do it just because? I'm selling the ale rights to all your houses. Why do you think real estate is not a thing, though? It is, but he's saying it's a social construct. Yes, it is. You could say. No, I think it used to be a social construct. Well, we've come to accept it as a real thing, but historically, you know,

oh, you own this little lot. It's something that a government or a group of people, I'm reading a book, a very interesting book called Boom, which is about the year the Oklahoma Thunder traded, but also about the founding of Oklahoma City itself, which is insane. I don't know if you guys know about how Oklahoma City was founded. You know? This is an interesting story.

Go on, going, going, going. So basically it was Indian territory, and this is about 1870, 1880. And it was Indians who had forced the Seminoles out of Florida, all these different groups, and they forced them out of what's now basically Oklahoma. And you have this wide open space that nobody's occupying in theory. So the federal government decides on April 24th at noon. 1889, we're opening it up. And whoever comes and grabs the land, it's theirs.

Now, the Oklahoma City, the Oklahoma Sooners are the football team, the college football team. Right. And the reason they're called the Sooners. Right. It's because they wanted to be there first. They wanted to get there soon. So they're Native Americans still on the lane? No.

Then they have marriage were kicked off, but they basically settled to all the whites. And I guess some blacks too at the time. That's pretty much like 100%. It was 100% white. But they're basically like, yo, whoever gets here first, you put your spikes down, that's your land because that's how she used to work back in the day right but there are people that actually camped out they were hiding in trees they were hiding in caves because you weren't supposed to start till noon you had all sorts of outrageous cons designed to get there first there were guys who were

going to fly in on balloons and drop themselves in middle of Oklahoma City it was like people buying yeasies yes dude they were lined up that was the first jordan drop yeah yeah yeah so they did that and that's why they're called the Sooners so at 12 noon somebody shot off a cannon and you had basically 100,000 people rushing into this area to claim. That's literally the claim. They put the stake in the ground and you could claim a certain amount. But there was no government in there to organize it, right? Jeez, thank God for realtes.

It was the disaster. So you had armed groups facing off and somebody would claim this piece and then they claim it. And it was like, you kick your spike out? Like who's the official to say they got here first? No official. And then the people who tried to claim to be the officials, well, that was challenged, right? I mean, the way the book put it is, if you were trying to think of the worst way

to start a city, this is it. They literally picked the absolute worst way. And then it slowly sorted itself out over the next. In Burning Man every year, that is the process. What? The map is set up. So how do they avoid what happened in Oklahoma City?

That's why it's the most fascinating place on the world, man. For one week, it's the most fascinating place on the world, dude. It's people show up, there's the map, and you basically stay your claim, you put your spikes down, you create your territory, and for whatever the fucking reason, people are organized. Because you know you're leaving. You know you're leaving.

Exactly. Whereas in Oklahoma City, this is your, this was every loser in America's chance to finally get rich. You struck out in Baltimore, you struck out in Santa Fe, wherever, you get the right piece of real estate. You've just saved your life. Yeah. So people would make their claims and then they were ready to die over it because this was their last.

Well, let me tell you something. It's amazing how they keep records and stuff now. Because it's actually a piece of property. I'm trying to purchase now in South Carolina. And I thought I all but had it. And now it's like an old document that popped up. And they're like, hey, this is their property. So they got to contact everybody on.

I'm talking about everybody. Some are living, some are dead, to make sure that nobody else wants this property because they have first right a refusal on it. You understand what I'm saying? So it's just like, it's just interesting how they keep records now for real estate because it's not too much shit

that's just unclaimed out here. in motherfucking America anymore. Yeah, it's crazy. And it's crazy on some level that, like, once it's yours, you just get to keep it forever. You goddamn right, and you should keep it in the family. I'm like, apps, man. Look, that's how you build wealth,

but it is also how you build disparity, right? Because eventually you run out of shit, and then there's the people who have it, and the people who don't, and they have no chance to get it. And that's the story with Oklahoma City, right? Like, there was a fairly sizable black population in Oklahoma City. They weren't part of that first wave

because there was no way that black, guys were going to try to rush in with a bunch of 100,000 white guys with guns in 1889 and elbow them out of the way. They knew they had to stay back. You don't think it's possible they just showed up late? Sorry. Anyway, go on. Fuck, we just get there Tuesday, guys. I'm not giving up no land. You shouldn't. You shouldn't. Nah, bro. Because, I'll tell you. No, no, no, no. You shouldn't. You shouldn't because this is the way that, this is the way the world is controlled and this is the way wealth is controlled 100% you shouldn't but what's what I'm sure maybe you has happened to you

but it's happened to me in terms of in my life is I've gained wealth is the more I get it the more I start to realize how fucked up this system is when you don't have it bro it's it's a little unfair man I'm gonna tell why it's not fucked up for guys like us all right because uh I mean even though you know my dad had a construction company and he you know had his bouts with drugs and alcohol we grew up poor yeah nothing was handed to me and I mean you're your mother had to ballet studio. Worked her fucking ass off. That's what I'm saying.

Ballroom dancing, poverty. We both took career paths that had nothing to do with what they were doing. Correct. So we had to really get it from the bottom, bottom, bottom. But you more bottom than me. I came from privilege. My parents, you know, supported me. They paid for my college.

I had a huge advantage on a lot of people. But you go to school for comedy. Correct. You know what I'm saying? But I'm talking about like as far as like earning it in my career, I got that. Yes. When we talk about racial wealth gaps in this country, The reason there's a racial wealth gap is because systemically

they made it hard for black people to obtain wealth. Systematically, yeah. Yeah. This are the best argument for reparations, in my opinion. Yeah. So that's what the fuck are we talking about? But we were talking about land. And you were going to say something about land,

but you were like, I'll do it off there. That's what happened to Oklahoma City. Eventually there was an African American community that got established, but it hemmed in the white. Oklahoma City, everyone ran to the center. And then went all the spots they wanted to push out. and a black community emerged, and they basically kicked everybody out, knocked it down, and then forced those people out even further.

I really forgot what the fuck I was wanting to talk about. Could it possibly have anything to do with, and maybe we transition and it reminds you of it, with the summit that Diddy put on? No. No. I was just talking about, I was, the racial, I guess I was saying I'm not getting rid of any land.

Bees, the only way that you close that divide is that you start increasing generational wealth. Yeah, because when you think about, you know, back in the day, they wanted the 40 acres of me. That's how important land was. Whenever I'm out the country, man, and I'm having conversations with just random people

around the pool or on the beach, and they're talking to me about, you know, like how they got there. Like, yo, you know, I got a land lease. And it's just, Walgreens is on my property and they pay me $8,000 a month,

10 grand money. Like, that's really, my thing, I like to buy, I like to buy commercial land that you can put commercial stuff on. Yeah. Because to me, that's where you get your money. You know what I'm saying?

You sign in a hundred-year lease. When McDonald's comes in... 15-year-lease, 30-year lease? Oh, my God. They'll sign 100-year leases. Oh, McDonald's a real estate company. People don't realize that. They own everything.

They own stuff. They're one of the most brilliant companies in the history of, like, humanity. Absolutely. But because they're vertically integrated, right? They own the farm that they farm that they farm the produce on all the way to the brick-and-mortar location where they sell the burger. That's fucking fucking... That's fucking... Probably on the factories they're making this GMO shit, too.

Hell yeah. Right. They're not licensed. But I get what you're saying. It's like when you see the people who have made money, look, we're not making any more land. So if you own a piece of this shit, you own a part of the world in perpetuity. Absolutely. But you guys don't worry that there's a bubble.

Like I keep feeling there's a huge real estate bubble that's about the problem. There's a huge real estate bubble, undeniable, right? Right. But these billionaire motherfuckers, they don't care about a 10-year drop. This is a 50-year game for them. Like, look at all the people, like, even in Brooklyn, right? You live in Brooklyn. you see these neighborhoods in Brooklyn that these communities went in,

bought up factories that nobody was in 40 years ago, and now all of a sudden, their luxury apartment buildings in Williamsburg, and you're like, oh, that's the game. The game ain't, let me try to double up in five years. The game is my kids' kids are going to be multi-millionaires because of what we scooped up now. Why do you think it's going to be a real estate burst?

What do you mean by that? It's coming down, dog. Well, I'm going to say these are people who are going to have problems. The people who are buying land and buying property, but taking loans out to get it. I don't do that. When I buy my property, I buy cash. Yeah, I mean, that's a different story.

You're in a different game. I had the shit on the realtor last week. Really? What happened? Because we was on the phone talking about a piece of, we own a piece of property in Montcoyne that we've had for years, and it's so much development around it right now. Like, I already see the vision,

and I know what's about, I'm like, a gas station has to be here. A convenience store has to be here, just because of all the new neighborhoods and stuff that are on this property. So it's a piece of property. it's a piece of property next to my mother's that's for sale. And they told me the price, I'm like, oh, I'm going to get that. Just go ahead and have the whole four acres.

And I'm talking to her, she's like, why do you want it? I'm like, why not? And she was like, well, what do you see for it? And I said the same thing I just said. I mean, I'm looking at all the development around it, all the new neighborhoods. And I'm realizing that the nearest gas station is four or five miles down the road and then two, three miles on the other side. So it's got to be something smack dab in the middle right here.

Yeah. And I just could hear her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that too. So now she's trying to buy my mom's property crazy. Like they're like name the price. Oh, now they want to buy. Yeah, we're not.

I know what's about to happen. Okay, this Lish-Tong motherfucker who didn't go to college had some vision. I know what's about to happen. No, we're not saying. We'll do a lease if something comes. And I want the other piece of property. You know what I'm saying? Now, she's talking to me and I was telling her about some other properties I own in Montes Corner.

And she was like, well, you know, if you're looking to lease out one of those buildings, you know, like it could help you with your mortgage every month. I'm like, I don't have a mortgage. I don't have a mortgage. I bought this. She's like, oh, how much was it if you don't mind me asking? And I did not mind telling her. But she fucking tried to play me.

All right. So I don't even know why the fuck I even said that, man. Why did I tell that story? What long-time brilliant, what longtime brilliant idiot listeners are witnesses this must be pretty cool for you guys is you're really witnessing us grow up in front of your eyes

it's kind of odd I gotta live your truth we gotta live our truth show no no 100% but it's such a crazy experience so when you start this podcast Star Shame Enterprise first episode ever With Jazz Fly Shout Jazz Fly

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real estate and land purchases to set up like future generations. This is a crazy journey. We're sending it up for future idiots. Oh, for sure. The truth to the matter is. You got to spread this wisdom, bro. I want the next generation to have

fuck you money early. So they don't never have to censor their self for a second. Right. So when the next wave of comedians come, next wave of radio personality, next wave of podcast, whatever the fuck it is, they on some like, suck my dick,

y'all can't stop my bag, if you tried because I don't get just my bags from this. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yes. So it's like, fuck it.

Let's go. And not even on a level of I'm going to offend you and I don't give a fuck because I don't think either one of us try to offend people on purpose. But when you're trying to figure things out and you're having conversations about certain things

and you're discussing certain things, you may offend along the way. Yeah. So if that happens, you know, and motherfuckers try to jump out of hand, oh, you canceled it, this,

You don't even got to worry about that. You know? Can't cancel me if I got 50 mil. You can't cancel me if I got 3 mil. Facts. Facts. Buy 150. I got three.

I'm fucking. Little yacht. Little yacht situation. I'm doing fine in life. We all are. Thank God. God bless, man. Real talk.

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man, I'm very excited about it. Show is over two months out. So we said, fuck it. We're going to add another one. Okay? I was nervous. I was being a little bit pussy. I was like, but what if we don't sell it out again?

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Get that. Charlotte, man, any church announcements? I don't even fucking remember. That's all good. Where the fuck am I going? I don't know. That's all good. Oh, so let's, I really want to talk about, I really want to talk about Killer Mike's.

Oh, yes. Speech. It's not even a speech. It was just his, like. That's Killer Mike being Killer Mike. Dude, we've been longtime Killer Mike fans here. You've been like an amazing celebrator of Killer Mike. He's one of my favorite rappers of all time, top five, top seven favorite rappers of all time.

And the only reason I say Top 7, because I have a top seven. But he's one of my favorite rappers of all time. He's just a great human being. Yeah. First met Killer Mike. in 2003, maybe 0203. Maybe I don't remember back in Columbia, Sok-Inline Hot 103-9.

And I just remember the first time I ever met him because he was with Big Boy and he was doing the Purple Ribbon All-Stars album and he's, he goes, I love your Jays. Because I had on the Jordan threes. And it might have been fake, but I don't even know. But he gave me a compliment.

I was like, okay, dope. And it's just like that whole day we ended up hanging out. Because, you know, I was doing radio in Columbia, South Carolina time. So I interviewed them. And then we hung out of the country. club later on and he's, yo, Killamike has never been anything but

Killer Mike. The Killer Mike y'all are just witnessing now and saying how brilliant he is in his name. He has never been another way. Ever. It is what, it's pretty amazing what we're seeing. It's like, we're watching the message

and the messenger unite. And you get to see this like every so often in history where the time requires a message and a messenger. And sometimes you get the messenger, and sometimes you get the message, and you get them separately.

But right now, there is a time in history where this message is needed, and we have a messenger who can deliver it and the message that needs to be delivered. And it is fucking... You're absolutely right,

but I'm going to tell you the beautiful thing. Can you insert the clip? Can we insert the part of the rant in it? What y'all is seeing right now are free people arguing over who got the best master. Oh, oh yeah. Oh, yeah. So we're going to go back to silent.

Let's register this shit back down. We're going to lock this back down. So I'll tell you when America was great. Seven years after the ending of the Civil War. Oh, Candace, because you didn't give the comment. So you weren't prepared for that one. No, but that's not to jump on Candace because, again, I'm disagreeing with my friend.

Seven years after the end of Civil War, blacks within the seven to 15 years accumulated over 15 million acres of land. Since, hold on, before we get to clapping because the niggas bought some shit. Black people were the only skilled labor in there. So if it was welding to be done, iron bending, cotton picking, it was black people. So instantly, your value became more. And Candace has a point.

The point that she was. made about illegal immigration affecting you is it is going to affect you at some point. Why? If the Kagle Chicken Factory is hiring illegal immigrants at an undercut on the rate, it affects the black people who live there who should be

demanding $20 an hour because they're being undercut. So when they get wiped out, they have to hire blacks, pay them and unionize. So she's right on that. But hold the fuck on. I'm not finished. You have to remember that.

people who look like you immigrate too. So before you widely say fuck them all, remember America is always going to have a slave class. And if illegal immigrants or illegal immigrants will not be the lowest paid workers, those in prison will be. And that always ends up looking like one of their sons. So it circles back around. So that's why people who are black who are from two different plantations got to get the fuck away from Massa long enough to say how are we going to burn down both their fucking houses. Now, this is my thought. It is so fucking brilliant, man. Here's the most brilliant thing about Killer Mike,

right? Killing Mike has always been Killing Mike, and I've seen people react to him in different ways. Remember they tried to cancel Killa Mike a couple years ago for some bullshit because he decided to do exactly what everybody's applauding him for right now. Killing Mike went and sat with him. another black man on NRA television to discuss 2A Killa Mike's a big 2A guy

and everybody was killing him simply because he was on NRA television but you're applauding him now because this week he told y'all at the Revolt Summit fuck all that bickering fuck all your differences fuck you know arguing over

which master to serve he was like even if you don't agree with this person take the good of what they're saying if you don't agree with that person take the good of what they're saying and let's all put together those good ideas and come up with an agenda that can benefit us all.

You know how I know that this really touched a chord? Talk to me. Is I had different groups of people reach out. I had conservative friends reach out. I had really Uber liberal friends reach out, unbeknownst to each other with the same thing. Yo, if you listen to this killer, my thing? Yo, this guy's the truth.

It was zero pander. You're late. first of all listen they're late but it doesn't matter remember a time requires everything it would have been too early before now it's necessary

you know who the X Factor was that got Kilomike's message registering with all of those different people who? Candace Owens interesting and when I saw Candice Owens was going to be at the Revolt Summit

you know people start hitting me sending it to me saying this is fucked up whatever whatever and I'm like why you need the voice I'm like it's not fucked up I'm gonna tell you why it's not fucked up you may not agree

with everything Candace Owen says you may not agree with who she chooses to support Donald Trump. But sometimes Candace says some things that are accurate. And not even sometimes. She said some things that I agree with. Yes.

And she says some things that I don't agree with. Guess what? Just like everybody fucking out. Just like your parents. Just like your uncle. Just like your aunt. Everybody. You can go through Thanksgiving dinner.

You can listen to a political dinner. Killam Mike said something on that stage, man. And I would tell Van this all the time when it came to reference to Candace Owens. Because there's certain things Candace would say. And I'll be like, bro, that's exactly what the nation of Islam says. That's exactly what the honor of Minnesota Louis Farrakhan said.

That's exactly what the honorable Elijah Muhammad says. She may not know that. You know what I'm saying? What told us some of the things that they say? Mike pointed to her and said everything she's saying, the honorable minister Louis Farrakhan has been saying for years. And when he challenged the audience, he didn't pantern. He was like, he was like, this is your homework.

Go out and study these people. And he said one person. And then Candace was like, tried to give some pushback. No. Canis they get pushback. Candace say yes. Oh, no, no, no, go study these people. And then I think Candace said one thing.

And he was like, hold on, I got you. I got you. No, no, no. What he told her to her point. He was saying to her, because when Tia asked her, when was America ever great? Great, right, right. And Candice was like, we can make black America great again. And T.I.

I was like, no, answer the question. When was America ever great? Yeah. You know, for black people or whatever, whatever. He didn't give Candace a chance to answer the question, which I think he should have. But if you go back and listen to Killam Mike, Kilmerich actually answered the question. Right.

Kilimey gave a moment in time where he thought it was great for black people in this country. And if Candace was like, that's what I was trying to say. He goes, no. I got to. You didn't say it. You had your moment to get this off and you didn't say it. So let me handle it. He was like, but that ain't in the sight.

That's not a diss to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're saying you didn't get it. Like, let me get this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, man, Killamike is just a brilliant dude. But think about that, right? It's like, here's this guy up there who's sitting with what seemed to be mortal enemies when

they're talking, right? Like a T.I. and Candace, when they're talking to each other, they seem to be mortal enemies. That's only because of the way the media has painted it. No, no, no, I'm aware. T.I. is the hero. No, I know. I know. But what I'm saying is, like, even in their, even in their debate, they're not really having dialogue, right? They're both, like, kind of talking to each other and nothing, nothing is really getting done. Doesn't mean that T.I doesn't truly believe and want to help with his idea. And so does Candace. She wants a help with hers, right? This is what I'm talking about message and messenger. Mike comes in and says something, and then both Candace and T.I. Agree! If you watch T. If you watch T. When he's talking to Kahn.

Candace. And don't give me wrong, he had his moments when he pushed back on Candace hard. Yeah, yeah. But it was a lot of times when Candace was talking about fathers not being in the home and the illegal immigrants. T.I. was shaking his head like, okay, that's the point. She got a point. And even when she said what she said about the immigrants, T.I. pushed back on that and was like, so what? Killa Mike explained why she was right.

Killing Mike was like, I agree with her. You know what? One thing she said that registered with me a lot. Black people haven't had, black people haven't realized their own political power. Like, you know, it would be dope if we learned how to vote in these blocks. When you take the 13% of the population and we moved like how the Tea Party moved. And what she was trying to say was, yo, y'all got all this political cachet now. Black people, we had this political cachet now.

But the brown people about to have that in a minute. You know what I'm saying? So get on board. But what Killer Mike was saying to her was, you're right when it comes to the jobs and all of that stuff like that. But when it comes to illegal immigration, they're not just looking at brown people. They're looking at black people too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

And he said, America is all. always going to have a slave class. And if the slave class ain't black people, if the slave class ain't brown people, it'll be those people that are mass and incarcerated. That's not America. That's capitalism. Well, that's America's a capitalist country. Right, right, right, right. But, yeah, it is bigger than just America, meaning like, a capitalist,

a capitalist system is always going to have a slave class. A quote-unquote slave class. Like, when we develop the minimum wage, that just replaces... Well, America's different. I'm going to tell you why. Because of the 13th Amendment. The 13th Amendment literally says if you're in prison, you're a slave again. Sure, sure, sure.

So it's like, so whether there's black people or illegal immigrants, if it's not, they're going to take those people that are incarcerated, which usually are high levels of high populations of black people. And they'll be the new slave class. That's what Killer Michael was saying we can't just be so gunhole about keeping everybody out and saying fuck all illegal immigrants. Right. But outside of just like imprisonment, it is going to be part of a capitalistic system where you're going to have a certain amount of people work for the other people. I mean, that's just what happens. And then, I mean, there's an interesting. I like the political aspect of it more so than you.

Dude, I just love, and we can get into that discussion later, but like, I just love the idea what he said was, stop trying to pick, stop bickering over who's the best master. What we need to do is come together and decide what we want, and we need to ask everybody here that disagrees and find the things we all agree on, and we need to have 10 points, and then we need to serve those up to every single politician

that wants our votes and say, if you want our votes, you have to meet. And you know what? Fuck yeah. Do that shit. Absolutely. Because that's literally, think about this. That's what every other group does.

Right? And they have advantages on you guys. There's like shared history and that kind of stuff like that. But there's literally when an immigrant group moves to America, they vote in blocks. They vote in blocks. And that is why these certain immigrant groups, they have a small, you know, area that they occupy. It might be in New York. It might be in parts of Brooklyn.

It might be down to wherever it is. And they'll vote in blocks and they'll get representation from their blocks. in, you know, state assemblymen. And then eventually that kind of moves up. But at least they're understood. Now, are they going to have to sacrifice some things? Yeah, they are. You always got to sacrifice things.

You always got to sacrifice. But listen, it does nothing to just complain and yell and tweet and fucking hashtag. Start making moves in this game. I agree. And that's why I said Candace was the X-Factor because when I saw that she was going to be on that revolt stage, people was hitting me saying, oh, this is fucked up, whatever, whatever. And I said, the beauty about this right here is they're going to have a conversation, right? And they may get at each other, whatever, whatever.

But I knew Candace was going to say some things that was going to register. Because Candice, I don't think Candace has ever been in front of an audience that black. You know what I'm saying? I think she's been in front of an audience of black people. But you know the black I'm talking about that black, that hoops and hollers at you. Revolt's black. There you go. There we know.

You know what I'm saying? Buzhouge. That showtime at the Apollo. Keep digging your grave, Damon Lemon Black. All right. Okay. But I knew that she was going to say some things that was going to connect. And I knew the people that checked for her were going to see.

see Killer Mike. Yeah. And even Tia. I didn't know T. Mika was going to be on the stage, but I knew that they were going to say some things that was, that killer Mike was going to connect with people too. You know what I'm saying? And I think that helps to bridge gaps and make people realize, man, we, because all you need is a couple things in common with somebody to realize, like.

One thing. Yeah, really? Yeah, that's it. You need one thing in common. That's it. Every time you're in Anguilla, you're in one of these fancy resorts and you connect with you have a conversation. It's one thing that makes you just, right?

You start kicking it when you start telling each other. whole fucking life story. It could be, by the way, it could be something as simple as your kids. That's it. I met somebody

I met a dude the other day. I met somebody in Turks of Kekos, this guy, and he's from Long Island. I wish I could remember his name. He had three daughters. I got three daughters.

That's it. So I'm like, yeah, he was a whole of past life, huh? And he was like, was I? Next thing, you know,

I'm talking to him, my wife talking to his wife, we just kicking it, we're laughing, we're joking, we're sharing stories and experiences. That's all it takes. One thing.

That's it. Simple as that. Yeah, yeah, go on. But no, that's what I loved about it. And I thought, I just thought it was a great conversation. I want to see Revolt do more of that. I feel like, can we salute Diddy or the producers,

whoever put this together, what the idea behind it was? You got to salute Diddy. I mean, he put his name on. That's his network, yeah. That's his network. When I think of the name of the network, Revolt.

Yes. I just think that for the next year, because we're in such a weird place right now. I don't even want to call it weird because it's actually a great time where hip hop and politics are colliding on a mass pop culture level, even though hip hop is pop culture, right?

But I mean, if you listen to hip hop for years, you've always had your Chuck D's, you've always had your Ice Cubes, you've always had your Killer Mike's, you've always had these guys that talk about social commentary. They talk about things of Social Redeemed Value. They've always talked about political things

that's been going on. Like, Killer Mike has songs like, fuck Ronald Reagan. Like they, you've impeached the president of ice cube. You've always heard this in the music. But now it's, like you said, it's being presented in such a digestible way. You know what I'm saying?

You got to give Angela Ryder a lot of credit for that too. Angela Rye, whether you agree with her or not, she knows how to talk that language that connects with that hip-hop audience when she's on CNN and she's using hip-hop references. People embrace it

in a different way. Ebony K. Williams. She's on State of the Culture with Joe Budden and Remy. She's an attorney. She knows politics, but she just knows how to put it in a digestible way. Killer Mike, super academic. You know what I'm saying? But he just knows how to spit that

it in a digestible way. He's using the language of the people. They know how to communicate. Yes, man. Yes. Was Angela a part of that conversation? No, it was Tamika Mallory. What's Katrina's last name?

Pearson, I think. Katrina Pearson. Killer Mike, T.I. And I cannot remember the other brother's name. I never saw him before that. And who moderated it? Jeff Johnson. To look to Jeff.

I was on a plane with Jeff this weekend. Cousin Jeff. You know what I'm saying? And yeah, I just thought it was a good conversation. Man, because it was just, it shows black people aren't monolithic. Dude, we are, we are witnessing a profound time in black American history. If we're willing to listen. Even if it's not, it's like, that conversation right there will be, it could be talked about in history.

Did you watch the whole hour 18 minutes? No, no, I didn't watch. And I will. I'm curious in it. I watched several chunks of it. But like that conversation right there could be talked about in history in the same way they talk about, you know, when Lincoln's. spoke at, what was the school that they have right there in East Village? Cooper Union?

Cooper Union. You know what I mean? Like, this transition in ideology, this transition and this kind of like removal from like this dogmatic approach to politics that black people have been expected to have for so long, which is I'm black, I'm Democratic, because the Democrat's votes, when it's like, no, I'm black and I have my issues that I care about. And then whoever the fuck cares about my issues is going to get my vote. By the way, salute to kill a Mike.

None of that is new rhetoric. No, no, Mike's been saying this. Dude, but not even from Mike. This is Elijah Muhammad. This is Malcolm X. This is Marks Garby. We've been saying this on Palli Dennis for fucking years.

You see why I weigh on my neck every day, Elijah, Muhammad. Like, all of that is old rhetoric. That's why I love Nipsey so much, right? Because Nipsey is a new symbol for old values. Because Nipsey used to study the honor of Elijah Muhammad. Sure.

He used to study Malcolm X. He's the dufer self-model. He's that guy. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, people look at him what he's doing, that's been going on. Saying Killer Mike is the same way he falls. He's fruit off that tree.

But everything he said is absolutely right. You free. Act like it. Make a free decision. Motherfucking, you free. Don't be chained by your ideology. Don't be chained by your identity, anything like that. And say what you can say about Candace,

she opens a door for that. She is very brave. I don't care if you disagree with 99% of her shit. The fact that she's willing to say some it and open a little bit of your mind to a different idea, right? It doesn't mean you're going to go along with everything, but one of those ideas might profoundly change the black experience here in America. Economically.

People say this all the time. I have these conversations with my people all the time behind the scenes, and I always say that if somebody is speaking about the liberation of black people, which Candace is saying is her ultimate goal, whether it's free your mind from the Democratic Party, whatever. My biggest issue with Candace is that you're telling people to come. be Republicans, but for what? Yeah.

Because I'm more with Mike. Yeah, yeah. I don't give a fuck about either party unless they're doing something specifically for us. Now, if you could tell me what Republicans are doing specifically for us,

the Trumpers, then I'll pay attention a little bit more. I agree with you. But just telling people to exit Democratic Party to be Republicans, whatever. But my point is, if you're speaking about

the liberation of black people, I got to listen. Yeah. Regardless if I agree with your course of action, regardless of I agree with who you support, regardless of if I agree with who you choose the attack, because I don't like when she comes

at the just. Jamel Hills and the Angela rise of the world. I don't like, I'm not going to say that. I don't like the way she comes at them. If you want to challenge them, challenge them. When you call them babbling idiots and this and that, whatever, because that's one thing I would never say about Candace. I would never call her an idiot, even if I don't agree with her.

You know why? Because I do think she makes a lot of sense sometimes. Right. You know what I'm saying? But your approach could be totally different. Because if you're a real end goal is to liberate black people. You'll take Democrat or Republican or independent, whoever's going to do it. Absolutely.

And if that person's goal is to deliberate black people, As long as y'all got the same end goal, it don't matter what the course of actually is. You know what I see? She does that on the right, and then there are certain people that do it on the left where they're, like, dogmatic about their approach to their politics. It's almost like they're, like, the environmentalist people.

And I don't say this is a joke. You know how, like, they're so extreme. They're like, we only have 10 more years to switch the environment. We need to stop using all plastic things right now. Stop eating all. And you're just like, dude, that's a little crazy. Like, we're not going to stop using all plastic. and stop, you know, eating all chickens and cows.

We're not going to do that. Why don't we figure out a reasonable approach to this shit? And I think that's where Killer Mike is. Killer Mike is the guy who comes along. He's like, hey, listen, yeah, we're fucking up the environment a little bit. Killer Mike is center everything, bro. Center. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. And by the way, that's what you need to be. Like, that's why I say, like, even when it comes to somebody like Elizabeth Warren, I love Elizabeth Warren, I think she's dope. I just don't think she can capture enough people in the center right. I don't think you can be too far left. I don't think you can be too far right. And if you're being honest, and you go look at Barack Obama,

Barack Obama was center on a lot of shit. You know, he was, and when he was left, he was like, he might say, okay, legalizing gay marriage is left. Yeah, yeah. But it's not really a political issue. It's not a political issue, exactly. It's more of a moral thing, if any, anything. I mean, if you want to look at his war record and shit like that,

very conservative. Shit. Drone strikes. Let's go. Just because there ain't no goddamn humans dropping them bombs. Don't me. They're not getting dropped. Hey, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, it is interesting. I was texting Chris yesterday, and we were just talking about like, Chris goes, do you think you're going to start hearing killer Mike for governor? And while I think that he could be great inside of politics, I think Mike's, I think what happens is once you become a politician, you're not beholden to just black people. You're beholden to all the people of your district. I think Mike is like that. Yeah, but here's a thing. I think Mike's great service and power right now is to the liberation and like the further progress of black people.

and he can't just focus on that if he's working on the whole state. Yo, let me tell you something. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, the reason I got so mad at Killer Mike, man. Not mad at Killer Mike, mad at the detractors of Killer Mike when they was trying to cancel Killer Mike.

Bro, you ain't going to find nobody. Blacker. The fuck is wrong with y'all. This man is born in Atlanta. He owns a barbershop. His grandmother had him banking black since he was a kid. He went to Morehouse.

Like, you're not going to find someone blacker. He's been owning Black on businesses. He's been. married a black woman. He raps. He raps. What do you want? Gee, what the fuck?

He's got killer in his first. No, I'm shocked. Yo, by the way, I'm going to tell you how ill killer Mike is, too. This is the other thing that y'all not paying attention to. Maybe you do. Running Jules has quietly been one of the biggest groups in hip hop for years. Yeah. L.P. is white.

Yeah. You go to these Running Jewel shows, bro. The crowd is so fucking diverse, man. But it's majority white people. He connects. You know why? Because we all love radicals. And by the way, Killer Mike's thinking isn't radical to me.

But to this bullshit pussy-ass generation that we live in, he's a fucking radical. And he's willing to walk through the fire. He don't give a fuck. Why would you care? I always look at people who, I always watch people who respond to their first cancellation. And I watch them closely. And it's an important reaction that they have. And I remember we had him here after they tried to cancel.

Absolutely. And his reaction to it was great. He didn't back off. He didn't, you know, whimper. He didn't do anything or anything like that. It was like a lot of people calling me Black need to look at who they lay in bed. You got damn right. I married a black woman.

A lot of my critics did not. By the way, Killer Mike, you still have not put that on a T-shirt like I motherfucking told you to. I text Killer Mike this morning. I said, I said, you free. Act like it. And I said, yet another slogan you have yet to put on a motherfucking t-shirt. shirt. I said, I'm going to start doing you like I used to do Duvall. I used to take Duval shit and just put him on t-shirts and act like I was selling him to make him move. He's a great fucking quote. I married a black woman. Most of my critics did not. Fuck you. How the hell you're going to ever tell me I hate black women, you fuck nigger?

I'm serious. My wife is black. My daughter's a black. I didn't ever want it anything else. Fuck is wrong with you. But you mean while you out here with a white man? You married to a white woman? If you don't get the fuck out of hair, who the fuck you're talking to? I felt killer Mike when he said that shit. When he said that shit on stage, you freak, I act like it. Act like it. Woo! That's a bar.

You know why it's a bar? Because so many of us, we allow our setbacks to become our identities. Yeah. But yeah, go on that, go on that. That's a period. You allow your setback to become your identity. And you become so entrenched in one issue

that you can't even see the others. Like, here we are right now celebrating a guy who is pro-gun. when a week ago most people listening to this right now are probably, maybe not most people, but a lot of people listen to say, how do we even still have guns? How do we even do that? We got to get rid of all guns, et cetera. You can agree with somebody

on one thing and disagree with them on another. And that's okay. And still look up to them. That's the way life is. Yeah. Why do y'all act like it's any other way? Because these retards want to cancel everybody when they do one thing that they disagree with because they're social currency and cancellation. You're a

fucking parasite. All these people that out there canceling are parasites. First of all, there's no such thing is cancel, Coach. Oh, yeah. Nobody getting canceled. That shit is a bullshit. Just because you're mad

doesn't mean a person doesn't have the right to exist. You understand what I'm saying? Yes. Yeah. That's because you're mad or disagree with it. It's almost like having real low emotional IQ because you're not able to defend why you are upset.

You're not able to defend why you don't agree. If you don't agree, just state another point. Hey, hey, what about this? What if it's not about them disagree? what if it's they validate themselves by getting corporations to bend to their whim? What if these parasites cancel people

just because they get an ego stroke of going, watch, I bet I can get bounty paper towels to stop advertising on this show because I expose them. They do it so they can feel good. They don't care about your empowerment. They don't care about the forward progress of your people.

They don't care about none of the shit. They care about their own fucking retweets. They're disgusting fucking parasites. Do something. I'm just tired of us, like it can be a great point, right? A great point can be made, and then a person can say one thing, and we focus on that one thing instead of focusing on the overall point. That's like this Bill Maher James Corden shit. Yeah, yeah, get into that because I... I watch Bill Maher.

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A couple weeks ago I watched Bill Maher every week The reason I watch Bill Maher every week Because I think Bill Ma's the only motherfucker That's out here telling the truth Okay I just really do Like Bill Ma is out here telling the truth

About what's going on Without compromised motherfucking democracy You know He was talking to this He always talks about how We are normalizing so many things that we shouldn't normalize anymore, especially in government.

And he was just talking about how Trump was at the point where Trump was just committing crimes in your face now. And it's like Democrats are just like, whatever. Like they don't even give a fuck no more. Like he's beating them into submission to the point where they're like, fuck it.

You know what I'm saying? And I just like watching him, but he did this, about a couple weeks ago, he did this whole rant. And the rant was really about Hold on. It was from a New York Times article. Okay. That's what he was referencing.

And the New York Times article was entitled, Our Food is Killing Us. And it was a quote that reads, Poor Diet is the leading cause of mortality in the United States. Then he listed all of the terrible health conditions that are caused by obesity. And he talked about how obesity is a huge part of a health care debate that nobody is having. Right? And he actually said something that we have said on this podcast a million times. If I'm not mistaken, the first brilliant of these podcast is star.

Shame. Enterprise was actually about how shame works. I've had plenty of people come up to me and say, Charlemagne, you shamed me into losing weight, whatever, whatever. Now, by the way, I wasn't attempting to shame you. You know what I'm saying? But if you have something, you know, that's about you that you're ashamed of, if I say it to you, you'll be ashamed, right?

And I think that's the thing with shame, right? The thing with shame is it don't matter if I say it publicly, if I pull you to the side. If you're ashamed about something And I said to you That's inside you It's inside you You can't be offended by something

That you don't feel insecure about You can't shame me If I don't got no fucking shame That's it I don't give a shit I've been talking with a list for 30 years You can say whatever list joke you got I don't give a fuck

You know what I'm saying Like you can say whatever about me It don't bother me It don't bother me Exactly Right And the thing about being fat Are obese whatever

That's something you can actually change Yeah And people like to say, oh, what about people who are sick and they have disease? We're not talking about them. We're talking about you eating fucking dumplings all day. Majority of the people in America who are fat are fat because of overeating and lack of exercise. That is a fact. You can argue with me to the cows come home.

There's nowhere you're going to read that doesn't tell you otherwise. I've never met a fat person that works out more than me. You know what I'm saying? It's never once. I've never met one. So the problem with Bill Maher is he's a political pundit who actually also have to be a comedian. Yeah.

So when you're giving people this medicine, you throw a little candy in it. Yes. And even though it's truth and jokes, yes. When he says fat shaming works, I don't think, I think he's looking at it.

And I can't speak for him. I'm just saying that's the way we also look at it. Right. Because that is what is called, right? If I tell somebody, yo, you fat, lose some weight, they'll say, stop shaming him. I'm not, though.

I'm just telling that person, yo, lose some weight. You want to be here, right? You don't have a heart attack, like whatever. Yeah. So I'm not doing it on purpose. So I think when Bill Maher was saying that that's what he was saying.

He's not saying going around and just be teasing fat people for the sake of teasing fat people. He's just telling him, yo, if they're big, let them know. Yeah. If they're obese, let them know. Like, you encourage them to get in the shape. James Corden. Nobody ever lost weight because of compliments.

Yes. And James Cawton said, I have nothing but respect for Marr. I think he's terrific. I watched his show last night. But he said, what did James Corden actually? He said fat shaming. Oh, Bill Ma said fat shaming doesn't need the end and needs to make a comeback. And James Corden basically said,

fat shaming is wrong. All I'm saying is he made it all about fat shaming. You're going to put the clip in. We're not all as lucky as Bill Ma. You know, we don't all have a sense of superiority that burns 35,000 calories a day. I kick because I love. Bill, I sincerely believe

that what you think you're offering here is tough love. And you're just trying to help by not sugar-coating reality for fat people, even though you know how much fat people love sugar-coating things. But the truth is, you're working against your own cause. It's proven that fat shaming only does one thing. It makes people feel ashamed.

And shame leads to depression, anxiety, and self-destructive behavior. Self-destructive behavior, like overeating. When I watched that clip, I got up, walked to the freezer, and grabbed a pint of ice cream. I'm kidding. I was already halfway through the pint when I started watching. but Bill may have made me finish it.

He might have done. And this term, we're using this term, fat shaming, we've come up with a name for it. Let's be honest, fat shaming is just bullying. That's what it is, it's bullying. Makes the problem worse, okay? He made it all about fat shaming, but this whole conversation was bigger than fat shaming.

But being that we're only focusing on this, the one line, Marr said about fat shaming, we're dismissing everything else. About obesity and health care and overeat, and lack of exercise. Like, we get so distracted. You know what I mean? We're not distracted.

He's been a parasite. You think he's just resport? He's parasiting, man. That's all he's doing. He's finding a bite that he can use to virtue signal on. And then he can, you know, pat himself on the back and all his followers can be like, oh, my God, you're so good. You're so right.

Look how evil that person was. You shine some light on how evil they were. Parasite behavior, dude. Parasite, dude. Yeah. I'm not mad at James Corden for his opinion. You know what I'm saying? he has the right to his opinion.

I am, because you enable people being fat as fuck. And that's an unhealthy thing. It is an unhealthy thing. Would you let your kids be obese? I would have a light for him to have that conversation about Bill Moore. Here's the thing. I have no problem with you pushing back on the fast-shaming thing. If you equally big up all the things that you agree with that he said.

Yes. Because James did say he's right. Obesity is a real thing. And lack of exercise and people are not going to be it. But big that up just as much as you make up. a point about the fat shaman. Tell Bill Maher, you can do all of that without encouraging fat shaming, whatever. But just big up the good and what Bill Maher said.

As much as you big up what you deem is negative. Yeah, you know, it's tricky with the show like that with Bill Maher, because he's a comedian, but he is serious. Yes. And I think you get into trouble there because it's like, well, you can't just be a comedian the second motherfuckers give you pushback. And then all the other stuff you say, that's serious, you go, no, that's, I meant to me. I meant that all of that. Yeah. You know, and I think that's where a lot of comics, like, is, I think it's tough for comics, and most people in general, just to be content and just be entertainment.

But just because it's a joke doesn't mean that it's false. Absolutely. Joke just, it just means intention. Yes, but if he only did jokes, he could joke about that all he want and then it's totally fine. But the fact that the beginning was serious and he was given these serious points, it's almost like he's using the comedy as like a way to get out of jail free. That's why I like Bill Maher. And that's cool. That's why I love it.

I think Bill Maher's the best host on television. Who's not Stephen Colbert? You know what I'm saying? But Stephen does something totally different. Right. There's nobody I liked it. The only other person I used to like the hair that did what Mar did was John Stewart. Yeah, John was phenomenal.

Phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mar is, Marr, I think Mar has killer mic on his show all the time. Because he gets it. Mar is center. Yeah. As much of people act like Mar is left leaning, no, Marr is center. Marr criticizes the left, just as much as he considers the right.

It's just that right now, the right needs a lot more criticism. Right, but he's also heavy on the left. Like, he's heavy on the criticism, needs right now too. He hates the, listen, he thinks the left is responsible for the pussyfication of society. Yeah. All this cancel culture shit, y'all.

He calls the left a shooting, a circle of shooters. What do they call it shit? Yeah. You fucking racist? Nobody calls a Mexican shooting. If everybody's shooting each other in a circle, everyone's dead. Not a circle jerk, a circular firing squad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So everybody's in the circle. Everybody's shooting each other. You end up killing each other, canceling each other. other out. That's what the fuck it is. Yeah. You know what I mean? So he's just as hard on him as he is on the right. But I just like him because I feel like there's nobody out there that's

stating the obvious more than motherfucking Bill Maher. And he's like, yo, y'all focus on such trivial shit. Like, I really don't care if Donald Trump tells somebody to go back to their fucking country. Right. I care about the legislation Donald Trump is implementing that might

really send you back to your fucking country. We got to start dismantling systems. Yeah. I don't give a fuck about little colorful language that's used here and there. Yeah, but systems don't get retweets, bro. What gets a retweet is calling someone an asshole for what they said. Well, we know that. I'm not into retweets.

I'm in the actual work. Now are we talking? You know what I'm saying? And building systems takes time. Disamantling systems take time, and they both take hard work to do it. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's true, man. It's true.

I keep thinking about what we were saying before just about, you just need one thing in common with somebody. That's it. There's this, uh, God, it's so, true, man. And we're really, if we can have one thing in common, anybody can get along. Anybody can have a good time. That's it. I was doing this. Why do we do that? Why do we, why do we, why do we get around each other and figure out all the reasons we don't like something? Bro, you know what I realized, dude? I was at New York Comedy Club. Shout to New York Comedy Club,

a great comic club in New York City here. And I was doing this Shultz and Friends show that I do every once in a while there. And I put the clip up on my YouTube this week. And I was basically, there was a bunch of Muslims in the crowd. And there was a bunch of Jews in a crowd. And I was just doing Muslim and Jew jokes. And they were both laughing at themselves and they were laughing at each other. And here are these two groups that like the world is pitted against each other and they think they can't get along. And instead of comedy dividing, right? It's really comedy uniting. And then everybody's having a fucking good time and having a sense of humor. Why? Because in that moment, they just agreed to have one thing in common.

They agreed that they were going to laugh. They were going to laugh. They weren't going to be sensitive. They weren't going to be offended. And they were going to fucking laugh. And it's just crazy. You just need one fucking thing. You need one fucking thing. So why isn't that the state of political discourse?

Why is the state of political discourse like how separate we are? Yeah. Why don't Republicans and Democrats extend the olive branch? Instead of like shitting all over the competition, why don't they be like, hey, don't you agree on this? Well, why don't, why don't you come fuck with us because we both agree on that thing.

Like, what is, maybe it's up to like us to decide what we find most valuable. What do you find most valuable as Charlamey and the guy? What do I find most valuable as Andrew Shultz? And then just vote that. I like funny and I like love.

Yeah. I'm being honest. Like, that's what I like. I like laughing. So if you make me laugh, bro. Yeah. And I like inappropriate laughter. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And the people that know me know that. Yeah. That's why I'm not even going to repeat some of the jokes I heard that Elvis' wedding. Because context matters. Yeah. All right? Dude.

It does matter. And like there's this, there's this SNL controversy. Obviously, you heard about the SNL controversy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should check in with our Asian correspondent about that. Chris, what did you feel about the... You're going to make me speak for Asians here? I mean, you're the closest we got.

So the controversy is... You're going to make me about bottles for Jack H. Hein. That's what Chris I was about to say You're going to make me You're going to make me Buy bottles by Jackie Shane Is that an actual lyric?

I hope so Because we're going to have to cancel Whoever You're about to get Yo Asian Twitter Going to come for you, bro You can't buy bottles for Jackie Shane?

Asian Twitter comes My co-sign is not going to be worth too much to you, man So So just to set everybody up There's an S&L hired Three new cast members One, a girl

I forget her name. Bowen Yang, who I think was a writer last season, now he's a full-time cast member. I'm assuming he's the Asian one. He's the Asian. Okay. And then Shane Gillis, who's first time being involved in the show.

Most outrage. And a clip came up from a podcast that Shane was doing where he was making fun of Asians in Chinatown. He used a derogatory word for Chinese people, right? One that rhymes with sync. I think you know which one is. Right. And rhymes with it.

rhymes with blink I don't know Yeah Anyway You can say Rest in Peace Chinks drugs Ah chinks drugs

Exactly Or this armor There was a chink in the armor There you go But by the way You can say that Because you're not Saying

You're not calling them You're just Yeah yeah So But But And And

And the thing about What was happening On the The The podcast is that like it wasn't really a joke being told. It was just kind of like shit that was inappropriate being said about Asians, right?

So whereas like, because I was asking, you know, Asian comics and their friends, their take on it. And most of the times a comic responds like this. They're like, listen, I'm a comic first in a lot of ways. So usually I'll look at the comedy and then I look at, you know, the substance afterwards, right? And this situation really wasn't a joke. It was just kind of like just kind of derogatory shit set, right? Um, so people, you know, we're tweeting that out and there's this big outrage and fucking the post is writing about it. And what happens is a narrative gets set.

Yeah. What's up? Who gives a fuck? Asians. He's Asian. No, no, no, no, no, Shane isn't Asian. Oh, well, Shane, you on your own. I thought you're talking about the Yang guy.

So Ari Shafir said an interesting thing. Comic Ari Shafir, very, very funny guy. And he said he's like, listen, if you hear anybody, any comics, sorry, if you hear any comics say anything racist or insensitive on a podcast that he knows is being recorded, he is doing it to be funny. Duh. He is doing it for content. And that is not how he feels, right? And I think that that goes beyond just comics. Like, you and I have said horrific things on this very podcast.

Absolutely. But it's never in the guise of being horrific. It's in the guise of entertainment. Have we failed? Yes. Hundreds of times. And by the way, we weren't even trying to be entertained.

We're just being ourselves. Yeah, we just being stupid. We just got a fucked up view sometimes. We fucked up. Yeah. That being said, it's in the guys of entertainment. Yeah.

And if we're talking to a fucking professor, a politician, we would word it in a different way. Maybe not. I think. Yeah, I've made a living off it. That's the only reason these presidential candidates videos go far.

Fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. That's fair. That's fair. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's a tricky thing. But what happens is after an agenda set, they started going through all of Shane's podcasts

and everything he ever said and trying to find other bites that confirm this anti-Asian narrative. Who gives this shit? No, I'm not going to say anti-Asian narrative because if there's a history of, I guess, anti-Asian rhetoric, then there's probably something there. No, but here's the thing. They can create a narrative.

Yeah. You know more than anybody. Yes. So what they do is they go through your entire history and then find the little things throughout history that could fulfill the narrative. So they're starting to do that with him. And there was like this article that he was being referenced in

where he was basically saying that, and the thing that they take out is he goes, you know, you can make fun of Asians and then the audience laughs. They think it's okay or something like that. And they cut out the context of it, which is how hypocritical is that? That there's one group that you can just make fun of

and other groups you can make fun of. But again, that context isn't good. The context isn't good for the narrative that's set, which is, oh my God, this guy hates Asians so much. And it's a tricky thing with comedy. And this is the hardest thing to defend because what he said in the podcast wasn't funny at all. That's the problem.

If it was funny, then as comics were like, dude, this is a joke, you don't get the joke. With the Dina Hashem girl, when she did the joke about XXX, X,X, at least it was funny. At least there was a comedic context to it. When there's no comedic context to it, you can't go, I'm a comedian. It was...

I like the premise. There was a bait and switch. Yeah, I like the premise. wasn't as good as you wanted, but you could at least go that was an intended joke. That was written for the intent of humor, whereas this one wasn't. And that's where it's the worst thing because it's so fucking hard. That's the worst part about

podcast, though. 100%. Because on stage, you're structured. You have the setup. You've built this joke out. Podcast, we're just talking. We're just kicking shit. And you know what? Patrice O'Neill said the best. He goes, an unfunny joke and a funny joke start in the same place. Yeah. They start in the exact. We don't know. And probably the most funny. Funny jokes probably didn't start off as funny.

They start unfunny. Yeah. Should I know? Because it's a premise. And you're building it out. You're building it out. You're building it out. You're building it out.

And next thing you know, you got this great bit. That's like, oh, okay. It starts bombing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are people, I'm sure, have seen me start with a joke that bombed, and then eventually see me again and seeing that joke change. And then they're like, holy fuck. You can't start with white people are buying pit bulls now.

You got to build up to that one. Right? I'm sure. By the way, I've seen Damon tell that joke again. And it was great. It was great. But in that moment, eight years ago at the garden, nah, man, he took that shit up the oven too fast. Been into it, it was still cold. You tried to warm it up, bro.

Like, you wasn't ready. Wasn't ready. Middle is still frozen. Middle is still frozen, man. That's all. You just got to build it out. But on podcast, you don't get to do that. Because podcasts are really just your first thought, your premise.

I'm reading this. I'm reading Ryan Holiday's a new book called Stillness is the Key. and he talks about thinking deeply. And he says how hard it is to think deeply, especially in this era because we always want to throw our first thought out there. And that's why a lot of these tweets and shit get us in trouble because it ain't supposed to be like that.

It's supposed to be, I got a thought. That's why a lot of times I hit the group chat. I'll call you. Let's push this out before I bring this to the masses, you know what I'm saying? And give it to them. Like, that's why I enjoy the conversation. That's why I enjoy talking to you or enjoy talking to band.

Anyway, we enjoy talking to Android. We're fleshing things out. Talking to my wife and flushing things out. Fleshing things out. What am I missing here? Often when I thrift, like when I say some salacious shit in the group text, I'm saying it purposely to trigger so I can see what I'm missing. You want to see all sides.

I know that Van or you is going to come with an angle I didn't see. And if you guys don't, then I'm like, oh shit, maybe I'm on to something and maybe it's good. But if you guys do, now I at least know the reaction. Yes. I know what I'm. I'm not surprised when I get that reaction because, okay, I've seen it and I can prepare for that. The dumbest shit people ever told us was don't overthink things. That's bullshit.

You should overthink things. Overtink what you say. I think you should overthink things, period. Don't overthink shit you're not going to act on. There's no reason, there's no point in sitting there and overthinking. That can kill you. But shit that you want to stand behind and you want to talk about? Things you want to do.

Shit. Overtink. Yeah, overthink it. Figure it out. And by the way, figure it out. And you may not even get it right after overthinking it. But at least you gave it a lot of thought. You're able to live with it more if it doesn't go right.

If you know, I really, really gave this some thought. I prayed on it. This is what I came to the conclusion about. I did my best. Yes. It's like when you lose a fight, but you know you trained so fucking hard, there was nothing else you could do. Yes.

You can't feel that bad. You're still going to be disappointed. But you gave it everything. You gave it everything. But when you go out there with like a half-baked premise. Oh, it's the worst. It's like, that's on me. That's my bad.

I fucked that up. Yes. And I'm guaranteed that's what Shane got to be thinking right now. It's like, man, because Shane's a funny comic. And he's like, that was not represented of me as a comic at all. You wouldn't got my worst work. It wasn't even work. You just got me being fucking unfunny.

And I am funny. The kid is funny. I'll tell you that. And it's like, and that's the thing that I'm going to be judged on. That's what happened with the rape culture conversation we was having here on the podcast. Yes. Because people could say whatever they want, but years ago, before it was, I don't want to say trendy. But the trendy thing to do, brilliant ed is, brillianties was ahead of the curve.

And we were having these conversations about rape and rape culture and what is rape culture and questioning a lot of things that we big. And how big certain shit is and how fucked up our behavior was. We was questioning a lot of our bullshit behavior from the past, questioning the gray areas, yada, yada, yada, yada. And speaking in a way where we speak. But think about it, we were trying, we were figuring. Those are conversations we should have been having amongst each other.

So once we did bring it to the masses, we had a better understanding. But we were working it out in real time on these podcasts. Which is what we always do. Which is what we always do. And that's why it's interesting because, you know what, we're fleshing out these ideas that everybody listening also has. So they're like, the people that listen, you guys, I'm sure you get this all the time,

like yeah, I just feel like I'm in on a conversation because it is one. Yes. This is not structured. Every single week, Taylor brings in five pieces of paper that have topics on it. And we never look. We don't use none of them.

It's useless. Matter of fact, we did one today. We don't know. She typed, look at. We really did one. Listen, everybody watching at home, I just want to let you know. She had to type all this.

This is typed. Yes. Every week is tons of these people. You did this one. That's the Bill Maher James Card. I don't ever... Do you ever even look at it? She hands it to me and then I put it right in the garbage, right over here.

Every single week. Nah, some good ones on here today, though. It actually is. You guys. They're not assholes. The Tebow draws national criticism after saying collegiate's athletes shouldn't be paid. He needs to shut the fuck up forever. Felicity Huffman sent us to 14 days.

No Emmy for Beyonce. say eh, I don't care about that. Life Jennings calls out CTG for joking on his song, eh, eh, I don't care about that. Kim Kate says CBD saved their life, I agree. Say, I love CBD. Hmm, it helps me sleep. Yeah, now, do you think that's her

setting up a CBD line? Absolutely. 100%, right? A thousand percent. Shorty does not play around. She knows exactly. Just like when Drake starts tweeting, you know he got the album or some singles coming out, this is her version of that. Well, I just wanted the record to show that my favorite CBD line is Green Roads. Those are the products that I like to

use. I think they're a great company. Yeah. Shout to Green Roads. Yeah. Green Roads is great. I use the gummies. I use the serp.

I do the drops under my tongue. It helps my anxiety. It helps me to sleep. I take it with me when I travel. I fuck with CBD. I put CBD on my joints after I work out. I can't speak for all CBD products. But that green road shit, that shit works for me.

You got to bring some for me. Oh, absolutely. They send me, I got boxes of that shit. Yeah, give me some. I want to try that. Yeah, I fuck with Green Roads. Actually, when Dr. Oz was on, Dr. Oz was talking about one of the studies that they did on these CBD companies. And a lot of these CBD companies don't really have CBD in them.

Yeah, they're fake. They're just advertising it. Yeah. Green Rose is not one of those companies. They actually got the real shit. Oh, yeah. Green Road is A1. I mean, this is the real way that you make billions of dollars. Because, like, selling marijuana is a limited market, right? You can't sell marijuana to kids.

You can't sell marijuana to adults. And it's always going to have, like, I mean, you can't to adults, but like old people and she's like that's always going to be scrutinized. just have a little bit of a taboo thing attached to it. But if CBD isn't a drug and CBD could just help you, and CBD is not habit forming and CBD doesn't, you know, have any lasting effects. No, no, I know. I'm saying like,

the question is, when is Johnson and Johnson going to start selling? Oh, they own it. When is. Yo, did you know that? They got to make weed legal for us. Marijuana got to be legal. No, no, CBD.

He's like, when is Johnson and Johnson going to do CBD? He's not legal? Oh, it's not. It's not illegal, but it's the same thing. They don't know how to regulate it. As far as the... It's not federally. My food co-op has it,

but it's in a sealed case and you have to get somebody to open the case, which doesn't make any sense to me. What I'm saying is that's the real moneymaker because that's the difference because marijuana is always going to be looked at a drug just like alcohol always going to be looking at a drug.

I don't think marijuana in, I think in 50 years it's going to be the same as alcohol. Yeah, but here's the thing. Water gets purchased a lot more than Heineken. They got CBD water too. That's what I'm saying. So CBD can be the non-alcoholic version of alcohol. You know what I mean?

CBD can be. be the water. But I don't want to see Johnson and Johnson gobble it up because I think a lot of people have been doing good work in the space. But there is a situation also where it is unregulated. A lot of it, frankly, out there is bullshit. Like, you know, when you go to the Greg's coffee in New York, they're like, do you want a CBD shot in your. So you know damn, you ain't got no fucking CBD back there. There are certain brands.

They put CBD in coffee. Road sounds like it's one of the. Charlotte's Webb is definitely one of, I mean, there are certain brands. One of my favorite books. Really? Solid book. Love show. What?

Never read it. cycle path. Well, Wilber? But I don't know It's because of that. If you say you're a pig. Oh.

I'm like, Jesus Christ, you're not getting that fat. Listen, what do you say, Chris? I was just saying that there's going to be a constriction and it's going to unfortunately get gobbled up. But I think it's the same thing.

I mean, I think you'll see big tobacco gradually ease out tobacco and we replace it with marijuana. I was, when I did the thing, when I moderated the panel Friday at the congressional Black Caucus thing and it was about, you know, Can cannabis license be used as reparations?

And, you know, you'll see so many of these digital dickheads. The first thing they say when you post something like that is, yo, all black people don't smoke and this is some racist shit and yada, yada, yada, as if there's not a million other ways to use marijuana. You got CBD. You got hemp. You know what I'm saying? You can make clothes out of hemp and rope.

All types of different shit. It's all type of different uses of the marijuana plant. THC does one thing. CBD does one thing. The hemp does another. thing. Like, it's so many different ways to use the motherfucking marijuana play. Which is how it was introduced to America. I mean, you know,

George Washington grew hemp. You know, it was a staple crop for a long time. It wasn't really until black people started smoking it that it became a problem. Yeah. I'm going to be honest with you. That cherry tree shit is pussy now. In order for like, you got to have George Washington chopped down the marijuana tree, my gee. You know what I'm saying? That cherry tree shit is some bullshit. Because first of all,

I ain't never seen a cherry tree. I didn't know cherries came on trees. Me neither. You didn't see the cherry tree? Sure. I ain't never seen no motherfucking cherry tree. It's so crazy that when you think cherries, you think pussies. You do? Like popping a cherry? Yes.

You don't think it a fruit? When the last time you referenced a cherry as an actual cherry? I do. Really? Yeah. That's usually what I think about. Really? I was like, yo, let's go eat some cherries.

I don't think it's a girl. Hey, never told somebody, let's go eat some cherries. Me and my boy sharing a bag of cherries. Really? Yeah. But I mean, if your buddy was like, dude, I had some cherries last night. You think he was just eating hymonds? No, not insane.

Not saying it like that, but you always say in reference to something, oh, you popped your cherry? Right. I don't think I'm popping a cherry into my mouth. If I hear pop a cherry, it's the first time I'm doing something, maybe having sex. Yeah, man, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think I've ever popped a cherry. You never took a girl's virginity? I have, but I think their cherry got popped through, like, gymnastics or equestrian. Oh, you never broke that hymen? I don't think I broke that hymen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I get it. No, you could bust your hymen doing gymnastics or equestrian. restaurant. I've definitely broken a couple of hymonds in my day. Really? Very overrated experience.

I bet. Never want to say, I never want to sleep everywhere, right? It's two reasons I never want to sleep with a virgin. Number one,

I know I'm not going to be with you for the rest of my life, so why would I do that to you? Yeah. And number two, it's just like, hey, I need experience.

Especially when you're young, like, hey, yeah. Give me a whore, bro. Yeah. I'm with you on that, you know what I'm saying? I want a woman

that's done it a few times. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know when I took out my virginity taking, a woman that took my virginia was already having sex. Yes. I probably was whacked to her too. Somebody got to know what they're doing.

Somebody got to know what the fuck they're doing. Virginia overrated. Yeah, man. Overrated. Don't let the Muslims fool you when they say they're going to bomb something and they get 10 virgins. You don't want none of that, man. Dude, give you three horse over 72 virgins.

Three horse for the afterlife? What would you rather? It's a good course Three horse 72 virgins Three horse Depends where I'm at Heaven

Three horse Three horse Three horse Yeah yeah yeah Three of them If I'm in hell I'm taking the 72 virgins Why

I want more company There's nobody down there So we have that shit popping Yo this idea You know what's nobody here Charlotte We're gonna get a rude awakening It's 73 of us

down in heaven. Golden State Warriors' numbers, baby. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know, pop it. It's just gonna be me, you and Vanbeck. That group text was a motherfucker. It's just a creepy.

That's it? Really? Really? God? Really? God, you telling me the group chat didn't stop? Oh, but you read it, though. I thought you knew our heart.

Oh, but you read it? That's why we're here because someone was going through it all. You was okay with it then. You were like, God, I thought you knew our heart. God, like I do. And I know that you didn't really trust the group chat. So you didn't put what you was really thinking in there. That's what the fuck happened.

All right, guys. I think we're done. Anything else? I think that's it, baby. All right. As always, if you look to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant.

Can we at the end of every podcast go through the topics we didn't cover that Taylor listed? So go through everything that she said. Tebow draws national security, not touching it. No Emmy for Beyonce. not touching it. No, he was a dickhead. He is. And I don't even think that he knows

that he's being a dickhead. I just think that he's a privileged person who doesn't understand the circumstances that some people come from because he may have been playing football for the love. Motherfugers playing it for money. Y'all they're trying to change their circumstances.

And by the way, if you wanted to be so much for the love, will tell the colleges to stop charging admission for games, tell the colleges to stop charging for merchandise, tell the colleges to stop charging people for concessions. Tell the colleges stop doing license and deals with video games. It's TV revenue. It's a billion dollar business. I'm not going to, how can you justify making billions of dollars in something?

And telling this person, hey, man, do it for the love. Yeah, I mean, Tebow's an idiot. You know what I mean? Give me a percentage of my jersey sales. What's wrong with that? Yeah. If you're going to use me in a video game, use my likeness in a video game. Like, who gives a fuck?

Imagine Zion Wednesday I went to Duke, made that school all that fucking money, got hurt, and never went to the NBA. Now you're just sitting in the stocking line of getting fat because you know he would get fat with an injury. Oh, right? Okay. He's ready to go. Exactly. So you're just sitting in South Carolina getting fat, you don't got nothing to show for it,

except for a fucking jersey that don't even got your name on the back? I love a galvorn. Let them college motherfuckers get paid, man. It's a brilliant thing they're doing. This is what we were suggesting on Flagrant too, which was let them make money on their likeness. That's it. Colleges don't even got to pay them.

You're just letting them make money on their likeness. So now the colleges, you don't got to share any of your money, you cheat, motherfuckers. But what you can do is allow these kids to not starve, and actually they'll stay in school longer because some of them ain't going to make it in NBA. Yo, I said that this one. on the radio, it's like the incentive is, if I can make millions of dollars in college,

I might as well stay for four years. Might as well be here for the full fucking four, especially if I'm not going to be a top ten. I know I'm going to be a second round pick. Why the fuck not? Or I can make $250, a year with the sponsorship from Home Depot or whatever they get me? Come on. This is going to make, in my opinion, this is going to make college sports un-fucking. It revitalizes the NCAA, especially the NCAA basketball.

NCWL is not going to go overseas. They're not going to go overseas. They're not going to come in for one year and be out. They're going to stack this mother fucking. And by the time they get to the NBA, guess what, this is why the NBA should be all about it. By the time they get to the NBA,

they had four years of the marketing machine that is the NCAA. They're more mature. The game is ready. They know how to manage their money. They learn how to manage their money. They learn how to manage their money. And they're famous.

Think about how famous Zion got from one year. Imagine four years, or at least two or three years playing for Duke, making legit money. Getting your game legit right. These kids will come out of school and they're not going to just be like,

you know, what is it, Crash and Burn stories that you hear constantly. Imagine how famous you get when I invest in you, meaning like, when I buy your jersey, when I buy your Williamson jersey, I'm wearing this everywhere. So now I'm making you larger than life.

I don't wear no college jerseys. Why? Because there ain't no fucking names on the back. It's just numbers. It's just numbers. Yeah, I remember when, I remember when Taylor, you got to recommend more stories.

It's pretty good. I remember when Alan Iveson played in Georgetown, we wanted that number three hoyle. Yeah. Because it was so synonymous with Alan obviously. That's true. I can't think of too many. college, I can't think of too many college players

who were, who made their jerseys larger than life. I can't think of many, bro. Alan Overson is the only one that I can think of off the top of my head. College players that made their jerseys. What, Taylor? Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, I can't think of nobody with Alan Hobson, bro. In my, in my lifetime.

I can't, yeah. At my lifetime. But, yeah, T-W-O, and listen, I'm not even mad at T-Bow for what he said. He has the right to say whatever the fuck he wanted to say. but it's just like, yo, you're being, for you to be a Christian,

you're being very selfish. Yeah. All right. Okay. Dude, here's one thing, then we get out of here. But this Felicity Huffman's ship

where she only got sentenced for 14 days, this is so, this is the woman who paid for her daughters to, you know, get the SATs faked and like basically game the system to get into USC,

was it, Chris? Yeah, I believe so. Okay. So, this is what's so funny about this to me. Is for years, well,

Wealthy families have been buying libraries and donating land to these universities so that their kids get in with lackluster grades. For years is going on. The bushes. All these libraries named after some rich family in the school were donated so that their legacy can continue to go to school. Matter of fact, the schools even have a term for it. It's called legacy, meaning if your parents went to the school, you have easier access into the school because the assumption is whatever you're part of that tradition. blah, blah, it doesn't matter. So the reason Felicity Huffman

is going to jail is because she tried to do it to cheap way. She tried to cut out the middle. The school's like, yo, we got a policy motherfucker. Build a library. You get your dumb kids in or be smart and get into the school. You tried to go around the system

so you got to get locked the fuck up. How fucking hypocritical? How can the school go? This is wrong. It's not wrong. This is how your fucking institution is built. I think it would be a legit criticism if it was a public institution.

100% but a private one be? Private institutions, they can do. So a lot of people are making the comparison between the woman who was sent to jail, I think, for five years for trying to... Horrible. That's total bullshit. You're trying to get a better education for your kid.

The worst thing that should happen is they take your kid out of the school. That's it. Absolutely. I'll tell you right now, I was trying to pull that shit to get my kid into a better public school. Everybody does. Everybody in my school did it? Everybody does.

That's the game. And to send somebody to jail for that is outrageous. But to me, what Hoffman did is, You're right. She just fucked up trying to game the system. She tried to take a shortcut. Now, if she had done that at UCLA, I think it's a different story because UCLA is a public institution.

And then she's stealing public money. But I'm kind of like, you know, the college is bullshit for acting outrage because they do it. Their entire, you know, financial wealth is based on shaking down rich people. Right. For admissions. It's a lot of hypocrisy on that. It's complete bullshit. Yeah.

And the fact you only got 14 days. look, man, pay paying privilege, baby. You know what I'm saying? Pay paying a fucking privilege. If she got the money to spend on a goddamn school, how much you think she got to give to a motherfucking lawyer to get her to fuck off? You know what the fuck is you talking about?

Maybe she doubled up that money. She could have got her kid in the school, no problem. Why the fuck would you want to send your dumb-ass why would you pay to send your dumb-ass kid to school anyway? Bro. You know what the saddest... You want to talk about a bubble that's going to pop. Oh, no, the school thing done,

but you know what the saddest shit about all this is, though? Is... These kids end up going to these schools that they're cheating to get into and doing fine. Sure. So what does that tell us? That you don't need good grades to be successful in these schools. Everybody I ever met that went to Harvard has told me way harder to get in than actually do the work there. Sure.

All it is is creating a border, if you will, for a very privileged society where you can build up these connections to do things in the world. do it. Algebra is algebra at the end of the fucking day. It's like you can't really make the math problem that much harder. I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of classes at Harvard that are, you know, more difficult than the classes. Swissbee told me that the class he learned the most from at Harvard was the class that was a three-week course. Right. Did him course that take a couple years and all that year? He didn't learn nothing.

When he said the classes that had the three-week course, he just learned more from it. And those are the things that he utilizes right now. Well, that's the thing. When you go to an institution like that, you're going there for the connections. Right. Like the same thing when you get a master's degree, right? It's not only the information that you learn. It's the network that you're now a part of.

It's you need a job in finance. You can go to that teacher that you worked out of finance with, and he has all these connections in the financial world, and he can get you at the bare minimum, a meeting about a job. And is that worth $200,000? Maybe. Maybe it is. I don't think it will be going forward.

Maybe not forward, but maybe it's not. College right now, $200,000 to have $200,000 to have, no degree that gets you an actual job, I'm sorry, but I already told my kids, I was like, if college is important to you, you're going to have to start thinking about a scholarship because I'm not coming out of pocket for this. This is the least Asian thing you've ever said.

This is the least Asian thing you have ever said on this very podcast. I look forward. I don't think it's a smart investment, to be perfectly honest with you going forward. I think if you could get into the Stanford's and Harvard's and Yale's because of the things that Andrew just mentioned, it's a smart investment. to get into the type of college I went to?

I think you can network anywhere, though. I don't agree with that. I understand what Andrew's saying, but you can network at any of these places. You never know where the next big tech guy is going to come from. You never know where the next head of a Fortune 500 company is going to come from. You never know where the next senator is going to come from. That's 100% true.

But being in part of these institutions allows you access to like VC funding. So, for example, like when you're a Harvard guy, you're a Yale guy or something like that, you have this network that you're connected to. And when you're ready to start your business, you can be like, excuse me, do you think you can connect me with a meeting with these venture capitalists so that they might fund my project?

When you go to Manhattan Community College, you don't have those same connections. You went way down. I ain't say all that. I ain't say community college, Andrew. I mean, what the fuck, man? I didn't say go from Ivy League to, you know, a bodega with some books.

Right, but I think that's what's going to happen is the top is going to still be worthwhile and the bottom's going to be worthwhile because it doesn't cost that. But the middle is you. The middle is dead. Good point. I want to revive a lot of it.

I want, especially with the HBCUs, I think that we should start putting more money in our HBCUs. And I got something coming next month than I'm going to announce. Okay. Yeah, salute to South Carolina State. Can't wait to your homecoming. I got an announcement for your homecoming weekend,

South Carolina State, because I'll be down there that weekend. But, yeah, I can't believe you don't want. I look forward. I look forward. I look forward. I look forward to. I would love for my kids. to go to one of those schools.

Yeah, but I'm saying I look forward to knowing my child is not going to have no student loan debt. Like go, do your thing, wherever you want to go. But I think when I grew up, at least in my personal situation, it was just kind of always accepted. Like, I was going to go to college. I was going to try to get into the best one. But no matter what happened, I was going to go to a college. And, you know, my parents, the college that I went to probably cost $75,000 a year right now. What is that?

Vassar College. At the time, when I went, it was like 20, 25. I'm sure it's close to 75. Dude, that's insane. I just can't. Four years ain't bad, though. $500,000? A year.

Is it $75,000 a year? Oh, got you, got you, got you. And I got two kids. So you're looking at a million. No way. Cash. So what, Chris? Oh, I'm sure it is.

I still owe $80,000. You still owe $80,000? So what? Charlotte may want to tell you something today. Charlotte would say it. No, I don't. If you don't have, if you, if you, my, my, My thing is this, if you haven't figured out what it is that you want to do,

or you don't have another skill set. Yeah, yeah. Look, if you don't have a skills. Like, Andrew, you got a skill set. I got a skill set. If you don't have another skill set that can make you some money, take you ass to college. No, no, but no, I disagree.

I disagree. I think if my kids want to be a lawyer or an engineer or a doctor, something that requires a very specific type of degree to practice, then, yes, they need to go to college and get that. What about entrepreneurship? Yeah, yeah. What do they want to learn business? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Listen, it used to be... Chris, Chris, Chris. This is very important to acknowledge. Still the fastest way to increase your status in American society and most societies is education. In 2019. In 2019. I think that's going to shift. And that's fair. But currently, the fastest way to go from lower class to middle class in the world is education.

And historically, that's been the case. And it still is. For example, if you go to school, you get an engineering degree. Sure. you will go from lower class to upper middle class the second that you get out of school. So we can't say don't go to college. Let me frame it slightly differently.

I'm talking about people. Don't study dance in college. Thank you. That's what I was about to say. People like who had a vague sense, I wanted to be in media. I wanted to be a writer. Right, right.

Those are things that don't exactly require education. That's a luxury that you literally can't afford it anymore. If you're literally just trying to scrape yourself out of poverty, like so many people use college for, it is incredibly valuable. And those people often have, a specific thing that they're trying to get. It's privileged folks that go to, like your kids who might go to school, going, I'm going to

study poetry. Let me try to figure it out. Let me figure it out. I'm going to try to say psychology or something like that. Let me try to figure it out. That is the waste of money because we're not climbing out of something. But the poor people climbing out of shit and they end up being dentists or they end up doing these type of things.

You change the trajectory of your family. Absolutely goddamn looly. Yeah. Damn, Taylor, you really coming through with the topics, yo. Taylor set that one up? Taylor ain't set that one up. Oh yeah, that was Felicity Huffman. Oh shit! Taylor!

Taylor, you're really killing it. And we did the Kim K-CbD shit. God damn, Taylor. Taylor, wow. What else you got? I mean, I don't care about the LifeGen. Yeah, LifeGen is one we could pass. I didn't.

First of all, I didn't know that was LifeGenning's song. I saw, I didn't. I saw Amanda Seals post the video, and I thought her reactions to the song was funny. And I literally was like, this song is the most horrible song I ever heard of my life. I was like, this shit is terrible. And I had no idea it was life. So I posted it and I put, yo, whoever, I said, songs like this let me know people don't have friends. And Kee, Life got on Instagram and was like, yo, you, you don't support my positive music and me singing about sex.

Insert that clip. So I'm just hearing all this nonsense that Shalameen, the God, and that one chick a man, I don't even know her last name, they're saying about my new song Slate. So, you know, what's weird is that y'all know life's done put out positive music. my whole career. You ain't never support it. See, that's what's wrong with you black folks right now, man. You always want to grasp on to the most negative part and put it, but you can't support the good.

So, if you offend it by what I said, ladies, I have sex. I like sex. You did what I'm saying? So I wrote a song about sex the first of my career. And if I offended some people, then I apologize. I don't care if you sing about sex? Why don't I give a fuck if you sing about sex? You can sing about sex

all you want. All I'm saying is, the song was horrible. And Life Jennings, LifeGenis is great. LifeGen's been great for ever. LifeGen's got dope-ass records. I didn't even think it was LifeGen X. I literally saw people saying that in my comments. Like, he sounds like Life.

He sounds like Life, he sounds like Life. I was like, LifeGen is never record no bullshit. I honestly thought that in my mind. So when he did the video getting out of us, I'm like, oh, oh, no harm, no foul. Because he said we don't support his music. Like, if you've been on the Breakfast Club a few times. Like, you can come on the breakfast club now if you want to, if you got a new project out. I don't give a fuck.

Like, why wouldn't we not support your music? All I'm simply saying is that record was whack. Right. It had nothing to do with anything. It didn't have anything to do with you selling sex, selling negativity. I didn't care about none of that. It was just like, what the fuck is this shit? He apologized though.

Yeah, what did you apologize? You apologized, but still got mad at it. Why did you apologize, but it still got mad at us? And by the way, I'm not even, I don't even care. I see everybody saying stuff like, the song's called Beat It Like a Slave, you shouldn't make light of slavery and this and that, no. I was just listening to the song,

listening to the shit that said, like, make you hop like a frog, make your legs shake like a wet dog Like life Come on, bro You wrote must be nice, my G Like come on man You can't You're a good

You're a great artist Like you can't make those kind of records Hop like a frog shake like a wet dog Make your leg shake like a wet dog Have your pussy dripping like it just got out of the shower Do pussy's drip When they come out to shower? I know my balls drip

But pussy's not they're not designed like that Like yeah I don't know Pussies don't drip when they come by the I mean, you might drip as a human. I'm still getting over this frog thing. Don't think about it too hard. What do you want? Outside of the master, the frog thing, help me understand it.

Hop like a frog. Are you hopping? I don't even remember the line. What was the line? I can't find the lyrics. I don't know. All I'm simply saying is, life, if you're listening, I had no problem.

I didn't care for the content of the music. I just thought it was a terrible song. Like, I didn't, it's not that deep. I didn't think you was being negative. I don't care if you sing. Why would I can't? you sing about sex. Like, do you think.

But frogs is just odd. It was so bad that I would never have thought, not once did I think, oh, this is really life Jennings. I literally said to myself, who is this doing this bad life? Jennings impersonation. Interesting. I literally thought that in my mind. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, salute to you. God bless you. Wish you the best. He even said something at the end. He was like, and, Shalomay, you better, how dare you speak on me with your charges? I don't have no charges. Right. And if I did, what the fuck that got.

to do with your song not being good. Right. Let me see. That's a false equivalency. Got your ass hopping like a frog. I don't know what that means. Let me read it. Okay. Let me see. Yeah, go through all this. Got your ass hopping like a frog. Got your legs shaking like two wet dogs. This ain't the part

we fall in love. This is the part we kiss and fuck. Do all the things we said we'd ever do. I'm going to beat it like a slave. So don't you run away. Can we go back? Can we go back? Can we go back? Can we go back? Can we go back? Can we go back? Call me master. Okay, hopping like a frog.

I just need to understand what that means. Like, is that you have sex with a girl so well that she's like, she just starts bouncing around. I don't understand what. Did that pussy dripping like you just got out to shower? Okay, that makes sense. Dripping pussies, I get it. You made the pussy wet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

How are you fucking a girl? And then she starts hopping around like a frog. That wouldn't scare the shit out of you? I would be. If a girl just started going, rip it? And just bouncing. Ribit! She just snatches a mosquito out to Scott with her tongue.

Dude, you know how frightening that would be? I got to hopping like a frog. But frogs don't bounce up and down. Ribbit, ribbit. Ribot. No, they don't. They jump forward. They leap.

Yeah, they don't bounce repeatedly. So hopping like a frog would imply that she wants to get away from him. She's trying to leave. The dick is so bad. She's hopping off the dick. Now, let's go now. I got your leg shaking like two wet dogs. And by the way, that's eight total legs.

By the way. How many legs do you need for your metaphor? That line makes perfect sense. Shaking like two wet dogs. But it's not sexy. When two wet dogs, if a dog walked in here right now and shook, everybody was going to like, oh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's nothing sexy about that. Isn't that what you say white people smell like or wet dogs? Huh? I guess you. But you have dog's legs already. Maybe dog's legs shake already, but I understand what you're saying. So the legs are shaking. That kind of makes sense.

It's just, it's not sexy. Cool. This is the part we're kissing, fuck, cool. Do all the things we said we never do. But then you go, I'm going to beat it like a slave. So don't you run away. Got the whips and change. Call me master.

I'm going to beat it like a slave. Work you every day. Do everything I say. I'm your master. I'm just like. Not going to lie. Kind of like that part. He says this is his latest and final album.

Okay. I can see why. I'm just saying life. You know what I'm saying? but once again, I don't have a problem with the record other than it's just not a good record. That's it. I got to listen to it first.

I got to listen to the album. I'm sure you got some shit on 777- because life can sing. Yeah. But that's just not a record. So, you know, whatever. I need to hear from women. If there ever been a moment where you felt like hopping during sex, I just need to understand that.

I'm really, I'm trying to understand that. If you said bouncing like a ball, I would get it. Yeah. Hoping like a ball. a frog. No. You want to show us? Yeah, show us.

Show us. Okay, we're not, make some sense. Life might be on to something. Yeah, yeah. Let's see, Taylor, come on. Taylor, come on. Go, go, go, go, go. Let's see.

You might be on to something. I'll apologize to life if you show me how to fuck you hop like a frog. If you're on, if you're Ryan the guy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And instead of using your knees and you're on, this is this, like, but this is the frog. Yeah.

Ribot. Ribot. Ribot. Can you say ribet when you do it? Say ribet. I get it, but I still don't agree. Because frogs hop off. Yeah, they go away.

A frog does not hop in place. Now, back in my day, I'm going to be honest with you. Back in my day, I did used to make girls hop like a frog. How? Because if you tried to do that position tailie used to do? Yeah. And my dick's so big. Boom!

Go all the way across the room on the ass. You know what I'm saying? I'm lying. Let's make that whole shit up. My dick ain't. I ain't got that kind of dick at all. I'm lying. Listen, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent.

You think we're brilliant. You really jumped high there. I've got to go a lot. You want to hop in like a frog right there. Shout out to life. Life might be on something. Life, you might be on to something, bro. Our bad life.

Our bad. My bad, yeah. You're right. You know what life? My fault. We ain't never. Yeah. I don't got the kind of dick you got.

It's make these girls hop like frogs. My fault, bro. All right. Big dick life out here. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant.

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