The Brilliant Idiots - Tuck It Or Not?

Episode Date: April 25, 2026

This week on the Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne and Schulz break down everything from the Street Fighter movie hype to why the multiverse might be ruining storytelling. They dive into nostalgia, AI paranoia, and whether people are starting to disconnect from social media. They also touch on the latest surrounding Tucker Carlson, sparking a convo about media influence, narratives, and how people consume information today. Plus, a deep dive into Drake’s rollout strategy, the state of hip-hop, and a hilarious debate on sneaker culture, why Michael Jordan still reigns supreme and how Kanye changed the game. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠⁠ Jess Hilarious - Til Death Do We Parent - ⁠Pre Order⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God - ⁠⁠Pre Order⁠⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel -⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks- By Charlamagne Tha God - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz - ⁠⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" - ⁠⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠⁠ Checks out AlexxMedia ⁠AM Mornings⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Shalamana got. Andrew Shulli. We all the brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker. Hello, sir. How are you, mate? I'm good, my brother. How are you?

How was your week? It was very, uh, it was very nice, man. We dropped the new Street Fighter trailer. Oh, I saw that. Cinema con. I thought it. How was that? It was cool, man.

I mean, trailer's fire. Trailers heat. Yeah, true. But cinema con was interesting. It's basically like you go and, like, pitch your movie to all the people. who own movie theaters around the world. Yeah. And you're like in a green room and it's just,

like Johnny Depp is waiting to showcase his movie. Johnny Knoxville is there. They were doing a scary movie, so Marlon was there. And I'm with 50. And I'm like, guys, we're going to be peaceful today. You know, let's keep the peace, guys. I thought it was cool, though. No, no, they dapped it up.

Everything was fun, man. So it was a vibe. It was cool. Are you anticipating the film, the trailer dropping? I'm very excited, man. I mean, shit, it's not too many blockbusters that come out. It's a lot this year, though. I think Street Fighters is in that conversation, right?

I think... You got like the Avengers Dooms Day and the Spider-Man and the Dune. Yeah. But Street Fighters up there, the budget's well over, honey. No, I think the budget's probably like 100. Like, I think those movies are definitely like a different, you know, those are like hundreds of millions. Yeah, I don't even understand how to fuck Avengers's plans to make any money, bro. I think...

Like, what the fuck? Like, the break-even, they got to do two plus billion. Not only they're going to make... They're going to make money. And then what they're going to do is, like, reset the world. And then they can make... Because they tried... They put it to that with the second movie.

Well... Secret Wars. Because it's a two-parter. Right. But they, like, they tried to do... They tried to do, like, the other new characters and it didn't stick. So they basically got to reset the whole brand and be like, all right, you guys like these characters. We'll make movies with these characters.

Because they fucked it up. All they had to do was how let you... Boy! I know, but they don't do it. They don't listen. They'll listen. Marvel fucked up with simple concept. We've had that conversation a million times on this podcast.

All they had to do after end game was move on to a whole other universe. But keep the same character. No, just move on. The franchises they have are big enough that they could cast other people. You could, if you move on to that. I don't mean same actors. I mean same characters. No, go to the X-Men world.

But we love those characters. Wolverine, Cyclops, Gene Gray. I thought you meant the Avengers still. No, like, Thor and Captain American. To me, it's like you just got to make movies based on the characters that we have emotional connections to. Yeah, don't go to Moon Night. Don't go to Shee Hulk.

We don't know. We don't care. I'm with you. 100%. Or if you're going to do that, do it the way they did in Marvel where they introduced the characters, got us to fuck with them, fall in love with them. And then you give them a movie. Yeah, I'm with you, but it don't make no sense to do that once you get all

Once you get the rights to all your big name characters back. Yeah. Just motherfucking go to the big name characters. They should have went to a whole other universe, which was the X-Men universe, gave us that for the last five, six, seven years. Yeah. In the midst of that, you're introducing the multiverse because you're clearly showing us there's a multiverse going on.

I hate the universe idea. But it could have been so simple. Even if you gave us stuff like Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, just to connect all the multiverse stuff, by the time you introduce incursions and all that shit like that, now we know why these worlds are merging. Yeah, but like my whole My issue with the multiverse thing is that like Nobody really dies.

There's no stakes. There's no stakes. So you remove the most important thing in any movie, especially in action movie, which is stakes. If I know none of the characters that I love could potentially die and anything that happens here doesn't really matter because there's another world just like it. Yeah. Then like why the fuck do I care?

I will say this though. In movies, when do motherfuckers ever really die. Like it's actually a shock when you're watching a movie and fucking somebody really die. When Ricky dies in boys in the hood, when Thomas Jay dies in my girl. Yes, but in superhero movies, you know. Holly Colton when he got stuck by the baby. That's Thomas Jay! How'd that make you feel as a child?

To this day, if I want to cry, if I want to cry, if I'm trying to guilt my kids in this thing, I think about that C. That automatically makes my eyes walk. That tears you up. Oh, my God. When you're trying to tell your wife how much you love her you think about Thomas Jay. No, I mean, that's real love. That's real tears right there. But when Veda, when VAT was it?

Was it Vita Veda? When Vader says his glasses, his glasses, he can't see without his glasses. And where is his glasses? He can't see without his glasses. Put his glasses on. Put out his glasses. Oh my God. And even as an adult when you know better, you'd be like, put his fucking glasses on so he can see in the casket.

You know what I'm saying? You never seen my girl? Oh, you uncultured piece of swine. You got to watch my girl, man. What's the football movie, the Denzel football movie where he's the coach? Radio. Yo, this guy's crazy. Remember the Titans.

Oh, yes. Yes. Teer jerker. I don't think I've seen it. I just said yes to people. You haven't seen Remember the Titans? I don't know the movie, but I don't think I watched it. If I did watch it, it was so long ago, I don't even fucking remember.

I think it's the best thing black and white people did together, including Barack Obama. Get the fuck out of here. Remember the Titans is an amazing story. It's so beautiful. You gotta watch it. Oh my gosh. Strong side! He was a football player?

No, he was the coach of a town that I think was like the school was segregated and then they integrated the school or something like that. He was in it? What do you mean he was in it? He was the boot. Denzel watched it? Yo, he's on your shirt right now. That's my God. I thought that was Friday Night Life.

They also got that, but there's less of a racial component. Denzel was a Friday night. He wasn't in Friday Night Lights. You tell me that's not Denzel. Nah, man, this is Malcolm X. But, yes, Denzel did a great job playing Michael McI. I thought it was a biopic.

I thought... You see what I'm saying? That's how good he was in that role. I thought he was a silly activist before he was the greatest American actor. If you've ever read the autobiography of Malcolm X, you know what I mean? If you've ever seen Malcolm X speeches,

Schultz is kind of right. Like, Denzel really embodied that character to the point that if you're from a certain generation, you might have thought that was Malcolm even at the end remember at the end when they showed a real Malcolm? Are we sure?

The spirit of Malcolm was definitely in Denzel. The spirit of Malcolm was in Denzel. 100%. You guys talked about this recently maybe a couple weeks ago. What? But I just went to go see the Super Mario movies.

Great. Fire! Fantastic. Great movie. Oh my. I never seen the... I went to go back to watch the first one. I never seen it.

How much fun? Fantastic. The second one's so much better. Like, it was so good. Fantastic. And on Shrooms? Oh, my God. You did it on, you watched it on Shrooms?

Yes. See what I'm saying? You in Mario. You know what that movie is really about, right? Did you see all the reptilians in the theater, being that you was on Shroom? You know that that movie is all about. That movie is literally about a guy being on Shroom and being able to see the world the real way. His consciousness level is super high so he can see all the reptilians that actually

rule this motherfucking suck this shit. So would y'all, so would y'all just stay in a... Stay woke. No, would y'all just stay in that type of, um... World, realm? World, yeah, world. Would you all go back to Earth? I'll go back to Earth and reality.

You would? But Mario Luigi, go back and forth through the pipes. Yeah, but would you just, like, you wouldn't care about work thing. That would be your work going to the... I think what you're discussing now is Avatar, Avatar. You know what I mean? Would you want to stay in your... You know, I don't know if that's a, I wouldn't know if that's a fantasy lamp.

I think if I was paralyzed for sure. Like, I understand why he wants to be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's running and jumping around. He's got chicks. Yeah. Dicks still getting hard. Yeah.

Crazy hard. Fucking with your tail is crazy. Because it's the longest dick. My God. That's the longest dick you got in your body. Can you imagine if God designed people like that for real? Can you imagine if God gave you a dick and a tail and the girls looking at you like, yo, put that other thing.

Can you imagine Pinotio pushing his nose and. in your butt and you keep lying on purpose? I'd lie nonstop. You know what I'm saying? I'd be like, this shit doesn't smell at all. That's what the tail is. Woo, voo, voo, voo, vo. This just smells like he just,

voo, vo, vo, vo. You know what I mean? This motherfucker just keep lying and lying until the nose comes out of his mouth. But I would like to be in and out of virtual world. But we do that anyway when we go to sleep. When we go to sleep and we dream, we're in and out of virtual world. You remember your dreams every night?

For the most part, yeah. not every night, but for the most fuck, somebody remembers them. There's a version of me that remembers them somewhere. I really believe when you dream you're in the motherfucking multiverse anyway. So I believe that there's a version of you

that, you know, remembers the dream in some dimension. Yeah. I can see it. You know what I mean? Because it's a manifestation of your subconscious anyway. That's all it is.

You got to go see the Super Mario movie. You didn't see it? You got to see it. No one I didn't see it. You got to see it. It's so good. Really. It's just good fun, man. That's what people

want right now. And if you grew up in a certain era, it's just like it's so nostalgic. There's a part where they show you the old game. Yeah. They're showing the old game on the screen to match the current movie. Oh, it's really, really, really, really good. That's really good. That's what, maybe it's because we're old heads and that's what we're going through our nostalgia play. But I do think that's the energy right now. It's just like escapism and fun. You know why? Because you can't trust anything new. That is true. Is it fake? Is it AI? Is it bots? And is it going to give you that you're looking for a certain feeling. Even the kids are looking for a certain feeling.

Yeah, because everything in their life is making them stressed. Are they going to have a job? Is they going to replace their job? Is it going to be constant war? Are they going to be able to support their family? They're going to be able to afford health insurance. Everything is existential crisis. So you give them a little escape, a break from that.

They're going to run it up. Yeah, I mean, yeah, and to your point, nothing is real. Nothing feels authentic. You know what I mean? Which is why I think we're about to see a great disconnect, where you see a lot of people start disconnect. away from social media and the internet, just because people are going to get tired of saying,

yo, is this real or not? I think you're right. Ain't nobody got time for that shit, man. I think there's going to be a great disconnect real soon. I think, I mean, I kind of think it's happening now, to be honest with you. I think we disconnect from social. I don't know if we disconnect from, like, quality content.

Quality production. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. I noticed the disconnect from social just being out and about in the world. Like, pay attention when you're out and about. There was a time where everybody seemed like they was doing this. That shit ain't the same no more. Like, I don't see as many people just pulling out their phones walking around like they used to.

Like, there's people that got their heads up a lot more paying attention to what's going on in the world. I got to look for that. At the airports. Really? College campuses, games. Like, I'm... Maybe your phone just died, though, because I still see it. You see it.

What? What was that? Does anybody even know what that was? Like, That's Taylor being Taylor, man. What is my phone dying have to do with everybody? Taylor? No, you're saying, what if you just caught them with the phone died?

She's like, what if every single person on the street? What if every single person on the street's phone died while you're walking? It's possible. Yo, the Chinese ain't playing. It's possible. They are. Okay. It's possible.

Yo, you heard that technology that they had at the Avenger Doomsday screening? Everybody that went to the Avenger Doomsday screaming. That was at CinemaCon. CinemaCon. They said that the reason there was no leaks. That was a leak. Huh? That was a leak.

Where was it at? Is this online now? I ain't see no leaks. They said there was a green laser going across the theater. And they said the green laser disabled your fucking phone. Oh, no. Spider-Man leaks. Sorry.

Oh. Yeah. They say at Doom's and they showed the trailer twice. They showed it twice to a theater full of people. Said it was a green light going across the theater that disabled your phone. So you pulled your phone out. Everything just went black. I saw that shit happen to me with Prince.

When I pulled out of the phone, God bless the dead, by the way, this is the 10-year anniversary of Prince. Prince died April 21st, 2016. When Prince came to the breakfast club and he came and he shook our hands, it was early in the morning. I asked him to take a picture. He was like, I don't want to take a picture right now. Cool, respected it. But when he walked off, I took a picture of him from the back. When I went to go show everybody that picture, the picture was there for one split second, then it was just a black box.

DJ Envy's my witness it was just a black box in my phone I said holy shit now did I think about it he had something in this fucking cake Maybe your phone just died What do we got on the docket tail Okay so speaking of

technology I saw this post about what Japan has That we don't She goes shooting that Chris I'm not shooting I thought was interesting, though. Japan has a way of turning ordinary things

into surprisingly smart technology, Japanese technology that doesn't exist in the U.S. Okay, what they got? What does that even mean? Ultra-fine bubble showers. Japanese shower has now inject nanobbles smaller than... 0.0001 meters. Into the water to deep clean pores

without using any soap. Nah, no. No, we got to use soap. Give me soap. Keep on. Let me so. I don't even need it. Automated underground bike slots. That's fire.

Automated underground bike silos. The safe space Japan uses eco-cycle silos that store your bike in a high-speed robotic ball 12 meters beneath the sidewalk. What's the point of that? So your bikes aren't all up in the street. And people can't steal it. Yeah, but what if you got to get the fuck on in a hurry? Got away.

You got a way. You got a way to a line of 100 other people leave an office to get the bike. That's laugh. For that shit, man. Vibrating ship knife. The vibrating. Chef and I was a 6 kitchen standard that vibrates 30,000 times for a second to slice through frozen meat or soft bread with zero physical pressure.

Dumb. So it's like a chainsaw. Yeah. Keep going. Just a little mini chainsaw. The bone conduction lollipop, a high-tech candy that uses your jawbone to transmit high-fidelity music directly to your inner ear while you eat. Oh, they need to make that a dick.

Imagine like the cop conduction lollip. Yeah, that's a little, that's a vibrator right there for sure. like a little lollipop that shape like a dick that you can suck on that plays music at the same time. You know what I'm saying? Little Wayne Lollipop playing while you sucking on this mini cock at the bus stop. Pocket cancer sniffles. Miniature olfactory sensors that can detect early stage lung cancer indicators by analyzing just one breath from a user. I like that.

That's a good one. But what you're supposed to do once you fucking... And I find out that you have cancer. Like, what do you do after that? Yeah, I go to the doctor. Doing cancer breathalyzer test is crazy. Okay? The wearable voice mask, the soundproof mask that allows you to have a private full volume phone call

in a crowded room without anyone nearby hearing a single word. I knew Chris was like that. That's fly. That's fly. Okay, Taylor. I thought it was interesting. A little technology segment, Taylor Tech segment. I'm not mad at that, Taylor Tech.

T.T. T.T. T. Taylor Tech. What else you got Taylor Tech? What technology would you want, Taylor? Like, what's something you would want that would make your life easy? Definitely. Let's be where it called.

You could go to one spot to another. Oh, teleportation. Teleportation would be fighting. Well, teleportation or invisibility. You know they got that already. See, y'all don't be paying it. Your algorithm is all fucked up. He's actually not wrong.

Your algorithm is all fucked up. There's a congressman. I cannot remember his name. There's a congressman who testified that there's beings from other dimensions coming through portals. And he talked about reverse engineering folding space time. So the two can pop up wherever. Yes.

It got that shit now, man. How can we access it? They're not going to give it to us. Maybe another 30. That would be nuclear war if they gave it to us. Why do you think? Well, if we're the only ones that have it, and we can just appear inside Gigi Ping's house when he's by himself,

do whatever we want to him, and then just be back in America. Right. It would be. Brad, I think that's a thing. That's the name. It would be regulated, right? What should mean reggae? Because to me, to me, something like that is like Wi-Fi. Where the fuck did Wi-Fi come from? What is Wi-Fi? Yo, I'm with you.

What is Wi-Fi? We don't even fucking know, but for whatever reason, it's in certain areas and certain areas it's not. What about those things where you charge your phone just by laying it on it? Yeah, you see what I'm saying? How the fuck does it do that? No, how the fuck does it do that? Tell me how it does it? I mean, I got my case on.

I don't know that. It's like a case on. I put it right here. It goes through the case. Wi-Fi, gluten, Dubai chocolate. Where did this shit come from? Where did this shit come from? It's a great question. All of a sudden, this shit just takes over our lives

and we don't ask no questions. Like, why the fuck are everybody eating green chocolate? All of a sudden, when I was in Dubai, I didn't see Dubai chocolate. Now all of a sudden it's Dubai chocolate. No, that's a good point. What the fuck, yo? Who's- Do you guys believe in vinyl records?

Huh? Vinyl records. No. I've been thinking about it. I don't think they ever did any of that shit. Break it down, Chris. It's bound. So a vinyl record is supposed to be the sounds that the band records are basically relayed through thousands of thousands of microscopic grooves on.

It's fucked up the moment you start speaking, they both pick up their phone. But I'm looking to see what the fuck he's talking about. I was also looking at the screens. Continue, Chris. Let me see the screens. I was looking up vinyl. Vinyl. What is it final coffee makers?

You still didn't explain it, Chris. You said, what now? I lost my mojo. He's fucking Alex, man. Alex, you teleported into his fucking mind. You know, Al, people are listening to this, too, bro. Yeah, that old man. Looking at our phones when Chris talked.

God damn, man. See, I've explained it for the audio experience. That was fucked up that we both did it. No, I was looking it up, bro. I was counting on you to keep paying. I was listening. I wanted to hear what he was talking about. You said vinyl.

I'm lying. I was looking up Grave-Philip, Chris. I'm going to be honest with you, Chris. I was looking up with Taylor. I wanted to mix up to Greg Phillips. The guy who was appointed to the lead office of response and recovery, he claimed that in January 25, he was teleported 50 miles for a Waffle House. The number two official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Greg Phillips,

claimed that he has been involuntarily teleported twice, once to a Waffle House. I was with my boys one time, and I was telling I was going to go to, waffle house and I end up at a waffle house like 50 miles away from where I was. I said, that's not possible. You just left here like I wanted to go. I was listening though. It wasn't like I wasn't listening, Chris. I just know how to multitask. I don't. You can't say more than one word. He said like two sentences. I did hear him. He said that vinyl is what artists said the sound, the music sounds like. You don't got to do all that. Hey, bro, you don't got to do all that. Hey, bro, you don't got to do all that.

You got to watch Chris. That was good information, Chris. You got to watch this sip his coffee right now, man. It's humbling, man. Chris, that was good information, Chris. Listen, our reaction had nothing to do with the information you were given, okay? I wanted to hear the rest of it. Okay.

We'll circle back to it later. Okay, we'll see, that's a good vinyl. We'll circle back. We'll circle back. You got to circle back. That was intentional. You know what I'm saying? You got a circle back.

What else we got, Taylor gang? Taylor gang, gang. Do y'all care about the whole Iceman? Yo, yes. Let's go. When is it dropping, Taylor? The day before my birthday, what a ho. But, yeah.

God, damn. That was some good hate. That was some good hate, Taylor. That was, like, unnecessary. The best hate is just needless, unnecessary. shots. Yeah. Okay, the day before my birthday, what a hole. Like, God, like, as if Drake even knew that, like, if Drake is sitting around, like, I'm going to drop this ice man the day before Taylor's birthday, okay? What is the, what is, like, the creative here? I think it's just promote. I think it's a good

promotion, though. I think it's fantastic. He set up a bunch of ice blocks, and then inside one of the ice blocks has, I think, an envelope that says the release date for his album. I think it's so the people have to destroy all the ice until they get to that. Yeah. Is that the idea? I think he was just going to wait for it to melt and then they find out, but then some. People, people not waiting, bro. They came there with flame throws, pitchfork.

Listen, I love it. The reason I love it is because nobody does rollouts anymore. Everybody think they fucking Beyonce from 10 years ago and they can drop, drop, drop. And it's like, nah, do a motherfucking rollout. Like, and the funny thing is I see people on social media saying, man, fuck all these all these gimmicks and these antics. just drop the motherfucking music. Let us build it up a little bit, man. There used to be a time where people used to build things up.

They would do proper rollouts. And the reality is, Drake can't afford, he's not going to flop, but he can't afford anything less than crazy, crazy numbers because of the social media narratives that's going to happen if he don't. People are already saying, he had this track for Kendrick and maybe J. Cole. Nobody want to hear that. Nobody want to see you read Cold French fries. Ain't no circling the block.

Just go ahead and make your records for the club. You know he's going to go. You're going to make your records for the lady. Like, keep it moving. Nobody wants to see you circle the block. You lost. By the way, that's what I was always telling folks when it came to Drake. He's still, Drake, but you lost a rap battle.

That's it. Keep it moving. The only person that made this situation worse after the fact was you with the lawsuits and everything else. Please, Drake, two years later, for the love of God, do not try to circle the block. You're lost. It is what it is. Keep it moving. That's it. What do you think had the best album rollout in recent times? Three people to me. The clips. Cardi B. And I like what Drake's doing right there. I like what Drake's doing. Cole had a decent rollout as well. But Cardi's rollout was fantastic because Cardi was actually doing the same thing. She was doing stunts. She was out on the

block acting like she was selling her CD on the street. You know what I mean? She had music being delivered through Uber eats, the DoorDash in one of those. The clips just because they walked the scroll. They went everywhere. You know what I mean? Like, they actually showed... Say it with Cardi. Cardi showed up to a lot of different media outlets as well. Like, yo, act like your music is valuable.

Act like it's worth something. Like, don't just spend all this time in the studio and then just go out and just drop. I agree. Like, make it an event. If you believe in your shit and you think it's great, why not promote it? make it an event. The reason everybody looks at music like it's disposable nowadays

because nobody makes their music in an event. You just throw it out like it's disposable. You like fuck it. So if you like fuck it, I'm like fuck it. I'm like fuck it. I'm going to listen to it one time and keep it moving. I do hate the narrative though that everybody is like, oh my God, the game is so boring without Drake.

Who's saying that? Things are not the same without Drake. That conversation's out there. But you know why it's such a whack narrative? Why is that? Because Drake ain't going nowhere. Drake just put out an album. Why were we acting like the party next door album didn't come out?

Why were we acting like he didn't drop mad singles over the last couple of years? Drake hasn't gone anywhere. No Kiah was just last year. Why are we acting like that was 2025? Really? When did that album come out, Taylor? Look it up to Drake and Party Next Door album. Some sexy songs for you.

2024 was the beef. Yeah. Some sexy songs for you. What was the other shit he had, he had the Wangwan the Laiya? one going to laos and that shit like that. He's been putting out mad music. Like, we're acting like he wasn't putting our music. Like, cut it out.

His shit just wasn't sticking. Yeah. But Nokia was a big record. Yeah, no care. Baby girl. I cut it out, man. Stop. Who was that out?

When that out? 20-25. What month? February, yeah. See what I'm saying? Oh, wow. Like, stop. I hate the, I hate these narratives that people create online and folks just run with

because of a feeling. Nobody ever just stops and says, well, that don't make any sense because he's been putting our music for the last two years. Well, where is he gone? Like, you know, where is he, where is he going? And like when people talk about the, oh, there's no hip hop on the charts, there's reasons for that. Why is that? People aren't making the type of records that the charts want. Charting is about streaming, sales, and radio space.

You get those three things, you get records that chart. I also think it's like culture, right? Like culture asks for different things. Like the white boy indie rock bands are popping right now. And they're having their moment. And I don't know if that's like a, there was a moment where country was really having them on. Maybe like, did you feel that maybe two years ago? Like everything was a kind of country song.

The country songs were popping. But Beyonce. When she dropped it. Of course. But it's like right now maybe like the white boy indie rocker shit is popping. And maybe the pendulum is swung in that direction. And who knows how long it stays over there. But also the chart is just one metric.

The number one streamed genre in America is still hip hop and R&B. Sure, sure. The number two screened genre and the whole world is hip hop in R&B. Number one is pop. And even that's sketchy, right? Because pop is everything.

I'm more just saying like there's moments in time where like EDM is super popular. Everybody's getting behind that. There's moments where different genres are going to be more popular than others. And I think this feels like the first moment in our lives where hip hop isn't or in the last two decades where hip hop isn't the only pop culture driving for it.

Two years ago we was having the same conversation. Well, I think that's when it started. Yeah, two years ago before the Kendrick Drake beef, which everybody says is the reason hip hop is in charge. No, I don't think that's the reason why it's in chart. But I think that that was like a massive zenith, right, like for the genre. And like, you can't, there's no way that it wasn't, it can be more. Thank you so much, Alex.

There's no way that it can be more popular than that. Like, when Drake and Kendrick were beefing, I don't know if there was ever a time in history where rap music was more talked about, was in more conversations, was more digested. Right? I can't. You can?

Yes. When? A bunch of times, bro. Like, we are such people. When, when, when, when, when. I'm talking about internationally. Keep in mind. Let's go.

Let's go back to the early 2000s. When you had people, you had Eminem, Nelly, JZ. DMX, ludicrous. But I'm saying they were all on the charts at one time. But I said in the last two decades. Two decades. That's more than two decades ago, early 2000s, we're in 2020-6. Also, what I would say is that I don't think that they were as big internationally at that time. Rap music has transcended nations, right? Over the last two decades, you go to any part of the world and you're in a club, you're going to hear rap music. I remember when I was living in Barcelona, when I was 20 years old, we had to go to a, specific club that played rap music because it wasn't ubiquitous. You didn't just go to the bar and hear it. That's still the case of the bar.

Is that true? You're saying like you don't hear Drake at the club or you don't hear it? Really? Their clubs are super segregated. What is it bad money? Hip-hop clubs, Spanish clubs, EDM clubs. I think that Drake Kendrick thing was probably one of the most biggest moments that has been talked about.

It had to be. But overall cultural genre-wise, there's been time. with an overall culture of hip hop was way more... You think? Talked about. Yeah, I just said 10 artists that was charting, selling millions and millions of albums around the world at once. Is there any chance that the reason why hip-hop isn't charting

the way it was because of the whole bot situation and the highlight that bots are in the industry and now maybe people have cracked down on it? Maybe, but I think it's more so that there's just new metrics for how things are measured. Now, like the way to When Spotify did that audit Like a billion streams

Got taken away But also Billboard changed the rules Remember Billboard changed the rules To where your song can only be on For a certain amount of time Or something like that They also change rules where like you don't get credit If you like buy merch with the album

Or whatever to fucking Yeah they changed a lot of rules But to Alex's point There is a version Now I would be Flabbergasted If the other genres aren't also botting their streams Like I imagine like this is a label thing

It's a label thing. I imagine the labels go, and again, you can't bought a shitty song and then it becomes good. But you can bought a song that is good and push it to the top. Yeah. And maybe that was happening and maybe they're not doing that as much. So now it's not as prevalent. But I imagine they also take away to streams from the country or the takeaway from the EDM. So those would go down too.

Yeah. Maybe they weren't doing it as much. It's possible. In 2025, Billboard heavily updated chart rules, the prioritize page screams, clamped down on direct the consumer sales manipulation and speed up the removal of older songs from the hot 100. So they also change the rules as well. But also the charts is just one metric. Right. Like I said, hip-hop R&B is still the number one most stream genre in America. Just because it's not charting doesn't mean anything. It just means that all the dots haven't

connected for certain artists. You need streams. You need radio sales. And what was the other thing? Screams and yeah, screams, radio spins and sales. I also think that. I also think that like the new generation of young hip hop artist hasn't impacted. That's right. The greater culture of like music listeners. It's coming though. No, I'm sure it is. But what I'm saying is like right now we're still listening to guys who are like,

they're our age. They're in their 40s. Like the top guys in the game are in the 40s. There's nothing wrong with that. But like music is usually dominated by the youth. It's coming. Marco Plus is on the way. Ruben Vincent is there.

Like the Kai Cashers of the world, the Chris Patrick's of the world. All of them young ins is right. right there. And that's the other thing. Like you said, there's a new wave of hip hop coming and they're still learning how to connect the dots.

But I will tell those kids something. Don't sleep on making records for the radio. Making records for the radio. What about the club? Like, how much do you think the fact that kids don't seem to dance as much factors into it? Because that's how you always would hear

it's going off in the clubs. It's going off in the clubs. Once again, we're using old metrics, right? Chris, kids. still dance. They're just not dancing in the club. They're on TikTok. So make records for radio that can be distributing on places like TikTok and people still dance. Something that slaps in the club is different than something that slaps on your phone. Communally, as opposed to doing it in a room by yourself versus... Go listen to a Travis Scott

concert live. He's someone who makes music for the live show. Oh, the live events ain't going nowhere. No, I'm not saying. What I'm saying is there are certain people who curate their music for specific types of events. And Travis is making his music for the live event. And when you're at it, it is one of the most engaging live performances you're a feel. I think you could say the same thing about Kanye. Like when you were listening to those albums live, I remember being an MSG when he was doing it. How did your Jewish team feel about that? How does Do you feel when you say things like that? Well, I even think about them. I told him to go home before we talk about Connie. You got to get home. There might be a Kanye concert. I was at MSG when he did what was

when he was on the stage that moved. Oh, I was there, too. Oh, that was the... You all went. That was the Life of Pablo Tour. That shit! Oh, that shit! Yeah, that shit was fire.

Life of Pablo Toll was fire. Life of Pablo Toll was fire. And that's pre-Nazi merch. That was definitely pre-Nazi. So we can enjoy that. Like, that was good. I'm gonna tell you something about Kanye, man. Yeah.

I think about Kanye probably every couple of weeks and get sad. And I'll tell you why. Tell me. Every, because, you know, he's always in the news, like he's in the news now, because I think he was just, he just went to apologize or something again for a million of time. And then he got spotted at some Jewish something.

I forgot. Look it up Taylor, at some Jewish center or something. Yo, the generational fumble. The generational fumble. And what made me think about it was you saw the report that it said, uh, I think it's, Jewish human rights center. Jewish human rights center. What was the report about, uh, the sneakers not selling?

like they used to. The NBA sneakers. Did you see that? No. Hold on. Let me look that up. You shit was phenomenal. You went? No. Don't lie. Oh, yo, you know, Alex just looked at the video. Alex was in their life.

It was like this was so fire. He was there. No, he live streamed it on YouTube. Well, why can't you go to a, I mean, I get the, the context, but. Post-Nazi. You can go if you want to. But what is his music got to do with what his Like, why can we separate the artist?

Yeah. Yeah, it said, it said, Yeah, can we still watch the Cosby show? I still want to watch the Cosby show. I still watch the Cosby Show. All right, then you all can go watch, yay. It says, Nike stock dropped sparks debate over NBA player popularity. And Brian Winhorse was saying that Nikes,

he suggested that Nikes struggle to sell basketball shoes is partly because current NBA players lack the massive cultural influence of past generation. I think there's two things going on here. I think part of that is true. Like, there hasn't been a transformative talent that is wearing a Nike sneaker in a while. Not an American one. Not an American one, which is important, right?

Like, Steph wore Under Armour. If Steph was in a pair of Nike's, it would be the greatest selling sneaker in the history of the NBA. The Steph made underarm a cool. You know how hard that is? Son. That's a more degree of difficulty

than any shot he's ever made. No. No, I bought them. Yeah. I bought them thinking they would help me with my jumper. You see what I'm saying? You want to be like step. As a grown-ass man.

It made me understand the impact of Michael Jordan with sneakers. Be like Mike, yes. Because I saw this guy and I was like, I had ankle issues. He had ankle issues. I can't shoot he can. And I was like, well, if it fixed the ankles, maybe it could fix this. I don't know. Like, I drove.

I'm finding myself. Remember the D. Brown pumps? Remember you used to buy the D Brown pumps and pump them up? Because you thought it would make you be able to dump. All of us was missing the room. doing this stupid shit here, running and falling into the grass. Can I say another one? The Nike shocks that Vince Carter wore with a little boeing at the bottom.

I see Vince jumping out the gym. I'm like, I got to get a little extra booy. The hilarious part about that is that the boing was on the heel and we jumped off our toes. You see what I'm saying? And I still bought him. You see what I'm saying? So we do. But what NBA player that has a transformative game, the type of game that you want to have,

where's a Nike right now? None. None. I don't think that's it. Right now, fashion has changed. Well, like right now, dad's shoe and the low profile shoe is in. Basketball shoes aren't in. But you know why that is in? Because the basketball shoes ain't in.

Well, I would say there's another reason for that. Nike opened up all the Nike stores, right? And what they started doing is pulling their sneakers out of foot locker. They started pulling all their heat out of the sneaker stores because they were like, We want you to come to Nike towns around the world to buy the Nike sneakers. We want you to buy it on Nike.com or whatever like that. Like, why are we selling it to the middleman? And then all those stores that do curate culture started filling their shelves with Adidas,

with New Balance. All of a sudden, there was all these spaces open that they had been open before. And they came with heat. New Balance had heat. So honestly, it's on Nike for having the Hubert's to be like, you know what? They're going to come to us no matter what. And I think that they regret that decision. And retro.

One more reason. I don't think the NBA player has the same status with really young fans. I'm talking like 20 and under. I think overtime elite, these are the guys that when I talk to like kids, that's who they're sweating. They're not necessarily sweating somebody, no, harden anymore or somebody like that. It's all these overtime elite stories.

Well, Chris got a point. I will say that I think NBA players are popular. They just don't have as much influence. So like like like like like like there's people there's so many other people in various industries who have more influence than NBA players. Like there's certain streamers that have more influence, certain YouTubers, there's, you know, podcasts. There's certain people even still in television and film industry to have more influence than the NBA players. And fuck, what was the point you were making, Chris? Over time, different role models, players that these kids look up to.

Yeah, whatever. I forgot. Oh, I think the other thing is LeBron never had a nice sneaker. So you have the best player in the league. He had one era. What was there? It was the LeBron. Man, I had a bunch of them shit, yo.

Remember it was one who's called the LeBron, Miami? You know the style I'm talking about. What this shit? He had one that was really fire, bro. Honestly, maybe, but like the guys had 20 different pairs of sneakers throughout his career, and there's not a single one that I feel like I missed. But there was a time where people were. They were wearing him because he was.

so good. I think it's the sixes if I'm not. There was no design that we looked at and we're like, I gotta have it. Kyrie had a sneaker that was fire. That's true. Really? But, and he had a game that was transformative and everybody was hooping into Kyrie's.

Like, I remember it, they even made the soul like a, like a motorcycle tire. It was like curved because they said that his game had so much like side to side movement that he needed traction on the side. They gas you up so you would buy them. But Nike. You bought. I bought those two. Yo, you are to sell.

I got a marketing. I'm very susceptible to things that make me better athletically. Word. AI, if we're being honest, never had a nice looking sneaker. He was so cool and he was so dominating when it came to cultural influence that we all had the questions. We all had the answers. I had four different pairs of Alan Iverson's sneaker. Let me tell you something.

Allen Overson was so cool that I don't even know if I agree with you right now but I don't know if I disagree with you neither because I had all of those sneakers But you thought they were fired In my mind I still think they fight it Now not all of them now

That first is like a dresser What number of that? What's that? What's that? The V? No what The four's right? The answer right? Answer. That one right? Yeah. The answer four The black and white answer four and the right and the white answer four. Yes sir Yes sir

The ones that were fire were the ones that were like there was like a metallic blue on the toe. Nah, man. Go back, Taylor. It was a metallic blue on the top. Right there. That one right there. The third one right there, right there. One two, right there.

And then the other color way to red and white, what's that the four, right? Yeah. The answer for a stepover? Fire. I'll wear those right now. You might see me in those this summer. I love AI. He's the fucking goat, but like, I haven't missed them, bro.

I haven't missed those sneakers. I know. But I don't know if it's because in the star. I will rock the answer for a stepover's right now. Yeah, nostalgia for sure, and because he was so amazing. But if any other basketball player of that time rock these sneakers, I don't know if he's right. Yeah.

But I don't know if he's wrong. That's the thing. The fact that it's 50-50. I'm like, I don't know if he's right. There aren't people that are rocking Jordans to this day that never watch Jordan play basketball. Yes, yes. Because the sneakers were fire. And then after the 12s, Jordans were ass.

Yeah, but nobody rocked the Jordan after 12. No, no, the 14s. Yeah, yeah. Full up Jordan's signature sneakers. Jordan had Jordan the 14th and the 15s, I believe, was kind of fire. Where's Waino when we need them? Waino, where Waino at when we need them, man? But sneakers.

The ones? By the way. Remember how last week we was having a conversation about directors and actors? Yeah. Do you, after you, if you got eight or nine bangers? No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Jordan's sneaker run is the most amazing.

Yeah, it is. Look at that four, bro. I'll fuck that four, bro. What the fuck? Of course, you go balls deep in that. I'll put my dick all through that four, bro. Every Jordan sneaker. Look at that 13, man.

I might just go. I might be, I might be fucked up. Well, wait, where's the 13s? I might be fucked up. 13. At 12. All right, all right, 13s are fine. What is wrong?

The 14, the 12. The 14, the 12. Pull up the fives. You know the LeBron I liked? The nine and the ten. We'll pull those up next. But the LeBron nine and the LeBron ten, I used to like those.

Those were fire. But I'm going to bring all of this back to Kanye after we do this, you know, but. I don't know how to... Penny's is hard. Penny was hard. Oh, those are the hardest. That's hard.

Okay, pull up, go to the first one. Go to the first one, Taylor. You, what you were... Al, please, let's have this conversation because I think you brought up a great point that executes exactly what. we're trying to say. Anthony Hardaway, God bless him.

Amazing talent. Unfortunately, had some injuries, had an amazing game that we all loved. But the sneakers were so fire that we didn't care if he was injured or not. There are pennies right now. We don't even call pennies. You're right. Remember?

After 99, they was over. Scroll up to it. Scroll up to 99. What is that? The 15th, right? I don't even think the 15th. Yeah, that's the 15th. That's the 15.

Nobody liked the 15. I thought the 14s were asked. I didn't like the 14th. Girls would wear them. 13s were fire. 13s, fire. The 13s, it was 1 through 13, is exceptional. 1 through 13 is undefeated.

Exceptional. 14. The 14s went crazy. 14 to 15 was kind of fire. I think after 15, it was completely, completely over. But, I mean, God damn. Once he started doing this stuff where it covers the shoe lace and you have to take it off. Oh, no, no, no.

Those were fire, too, though. The very last ones. But those are the retroes, right? Oh, the Spizzike? The six rings. Yeah, but they're just basically recreating all the old ones together. I hated those. Now, Penny.

Penny was a product of... What were those pennies called? The hyper? No, no, no, no. Phone posits. Oh, phone posits. We started calling them phone posits once Penny stopped having his influence, but they were pennies. But you know what else Penny had?

Phenomenal marketing. Yes, of course. Little Penny. We can remember your mascot. 100%. We can remember your fucking mascot, Little Penny. And he was doing it with Chris Rock. Chris Rock.

It was doing the voice. It was very reminiscent of Jordan doing the shit with Spike Lee. I mean, pennies were phenomenal. We haven't seen a great marketing campaign like that. Those are all-time great sneaker marketing campaigns. LeBron has never had an all-time great marketing campaign. Because I'll be honest, the sneakers don't. They look like space jammed sneakers.

Yeah, they're too, like, futuristic and weird. If you really look at old Jordans, they're kind of simple. Look at them. Like, they're kind of simple. I don't think they're simple. Yo, the 11s are a very simple aesthetic. Which one is the 11? I can't count.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The paddellers. The paddellers. You wouldn't have thought of that, though. No, of course not. It was a balsy thing to put fucking patent leather on a man's shoe. No, the Adidas had those in the early 80s. I'm not saying that they did.

That was the hottest sneaker before. Oh, it was. Okay, guy, guys. About the ones made it from vinyl, Chris. Son, look at the 12s. The 12s, super simple. I honestly think the most popular Jordans are the most simple ones. The ones, super simple. The 11s, the 12s, the 13s even, you see, like, crazy.

Simple. You know what's so crazy. I'm sitting here, I couldn't think of designing these sneakers in a million years, but we're calling them simple. I couldn't think in a million years. I couldn't do. Don't get what you're saying, though. Like, I actually think, like, it takes a genius to design something simple and make it look incredible. Less is more.

Like, and that's the problem with the LeBron's, in my opinion. It's like, they think more is more. It's too much shit going on. The late Jordans, it's too much shit going on. That's a lot going on. Bro, the fours. Look how simple the force. Oh, my God.

I love them. That's my favorite shit ever, bro. And by the way, they were always a statement piece. If you had those on, somebody was going to give you a compliment somewhere. I mean, you know, certain areas, he was going to get robbed. That's why they was, but, you know, the first time I ever met Killer Mike, that's how the conversation started. He was wearing a you on.

I was wearing them. I was wearing the fours. He was like, I had the, what he used to call him, the concrete for? Seamint fours or something like that. And I was in Columbia Soccerline, and he was like, what's up, man? He said, yo, I like some sneakers. And I'm thinking to myself, hope you don't ask me what my size is. Bro, I got to ask, I got to ask some subway what size.

Why? Because that's when they're ready to take them off your feet. You think you're going to rob you for your sneakers? There are certain things you don't want to hear. You don't want to hear where I'm from in the McDonald's. You sound like, you know what I mean? Salome right now, man. You sound like Timmy Shal.

Just because you were the rapper, you think he's going to rob you, bro. No, I had to him. Dude, that's crazy, man. Yo, that was the error. That was the error back then, man. I guess your point, yeah. But we bought all of that up to have the conversation about when you talk about the last.

person who moved you to buy sneakers like a Steph Curry, who moved you to buy sneakers like a Michael Jordan, who made you want to get those phone posits because of penny. It wasn't even a ball player. It was Kanye fucking wet. You're right. Kanye had culture in a chokehold every age from 8 to 80. Go on. You could go on. High school, middle school camps and see kids in the slides.

You see older guys like us in the slides and in the dad's shoes. And then NBA players started wearing the Yeezys on the basketball court. Kanye West would have had the NBA in a chokehold with his sneakers. I guarantee you by now he was with Adidas. No, no, no, who was wearing his sneakers on the- Oh, I forgot. Look at it up. What's your face with the Red October's?

He's a big sneaker head, too. But that's when he was doing the Nike joint. I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tucker, yeah. But somebody had, somebody wore the Yeezies in the game. It wasn't those Yeezys right there. There was another. What's his first thing?

And no, he did those easy. The elephant-looking ones? You know who were those? Gilbert Arenas' boy. He played for the Lakers. Swaggy P. Nick Young. But you know by now, Kanye would have already had,

he would have designed a basketball sneaker. But I think everybody in the league would have been wearing. But you made the greatest point. It would, we watched the influence. the fashion and cultural influence shift from athletes to actual fashion influencers. Yes. And I think like the internet democratized influence in a way where it's like, okay, if I want to dress a certain way, now I have people who I think dress cool and I could

imitate their shit, that's available to me. Before that, we didn't really have that much of that. Like think about that growing up. It was like, you had NBA players and you're like, well, that's what I want to be. I want to play in the league. and I want to dress like the guys that play in the league. Now we have NBA players to model our game after. We have fashion influencers to model our outfits after.

We have musicians that have specific music tastes that we want to replicate or play when we're at home. Everything is broken up. Yes. Nick, you're right. Nick Young, Wardy Adidas, Yeezy Boo, 750, 500 in the game. Montrez, Harold, Wadiadis, Yizi Q&TM, basketball, sneaker in the game. P.J. Tucker, Ward, Ward, and, Nike.

Air Yeezy Toos. Nate Robinson wore the Nike Air Yeezy Toos. He only wore him for a quarter, though, this one he was with Nike. And then they made Adidas, Yeezy Q&M basketball sneaker, which was designed specifically for performance basketball. You know how many of those they would have made by now? Bro.

And being that there's no NBA player in the league who has a chokehold on things, Kanye would have absolutely had a chokehold on the NBA. So I'm not even going to sit here in front. I think about things like that. and I get sad. Yeah. I'm like, yo, that was a generational bad fum bowl.

Like, not even just from the money aspect. You know how hard it is to capture culture, bro? Thanks. To capture culture, especially in the sneaker game and you don't even got a wicked jump shot? Yeah, that's true.

You ain't dunking on nobody, but you've captured culture. He would have had everybody from just regular lifestyle to motherfucking the NBA. I wonder if it's the same level. of influence that Run DMC had with the shelter. Run DMC wished they had

and I would say this respectfully. They wished they had the influence. But you don't think when they were rocking the shelteros and they did that Arrow Smith video and like no. You don't think when we were young, young or even the generation before us saw that and they were like, this is the coolest shit, I'm rocking shelter. It's

it was but it's a different level. That was them wearing something that they made cool as opposed to creating something True. The Sheltow was an old sneaker. It was Karim's signature.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been around since the mid-70s. Yeah, making something from scratch and making it the thing that people want to wear. Gordon was, I remember the week that the first Jordan's dropped. Crazy. And it was crazy because I was really into sneakers at the time. And then everybody had them.

And then it got corny. It was more like a niche thing. Like there weren't real sneaker heads yet. It was like the first generation. So I was into a Lajuan had a crazy. pair of sneakers. He had Converse, right? No, no. Converse was Dr. J. Larry Bird.

Bird. And then Hakeem had the tonics, which were nuts, like a kind of purple and white thing. And Lotto had a map sneaker that had a map in New York City on it that was hot. Oh, the sneaker company? Yeah. Oh, yeah. This dick in your mouth. That was a guy.

That was an assist. That should be. I know. We call that an alley. I got half of that one. If you want to have to dig, take it, Chris. I threw the loop. But no, and the ill thing about Kanye,

Kanye wasn't just about style or performance. They were comfortable. Yeah. Like, I can't think of any of those sneakers we threw on back then because they was comfortable. It was all because of style. Yeah. You threw on Kanye, you threw on the slides.

The foam. The foam. Oh, my God. Yeah, you can wiggle your toes in this shit. Like, them shit was cum, turf. You know who had a fire sneaker? Charles Barkley had a, like, CB 34. Yes, yes.

Yes. Yes. Those, those. I had the red ones and the black ones. Yes, man. Those had a couple of sneakers. I interviewed Dr. Jay today. That shit was ill.

Oh, wow. Yeah, that shit was crazy. How'd that go? That's cool. It was dope. You know, I rarely, I rarely, like, FaceTime my Pops to do a video for my Pops, but I had to show them, like, you know, Dr. He don't get a fuck about none of these hip-to-the-hip to the hip-top rappers.

But he said, he said, that's the doctor. Because, you know, when we were coming up and we still was watching Michael Jordan, you know, we was raving over Michael Jordan, your dad or somebody would be like, you like him, you need to go see goddamn Dr. Jay. You need to go watch Dr. Jay. Yeah. You know, Dr. Jay, he's still smooth. Is he? Oh, man. He had Lauren's mom.

Wet. She was there Yeah As long as mom Delaware I mean just respectfully I love it I know like what the hell

I swear I was trying to think of another word My brain was like no You're going to say what You're going to say what I was trying to think of something else to say And my brain was literally like no No no

But if you know Lauren's mom You would understand Why my brain was there You're going to say what She's really like Who Who? That's so

No, she's cool. You know what I mean, right? Taylor. Like, she'd be, I can make these jokes with her. Like when I saw her today and I was like, yo, you saw Dr. Jay and she was like, mm-hmm. I said, why you lick in your lips? Why you lick in your lips? She said, I saw that fine. You know what I'm saying? So that's why. But yes, because she's from Delaware. What is that guy? It's right by Philly. Close to Philly. Yes, come on, man. Dr. Jay probably then ran all through Delaware. Philly, Tell him it.

No, that's true. That's true. He's true. Yeah. Y'all, see, y'all, y'all got to go back in Google, man. Dr. J was Allen & Iverson before Allen & Ivon. What a state in the union, they say. You see what I'm saying?

You see what I'm saying, man? Come on. All right, let's pay some of what. I would say, well, while we're on the talk of Michael Jordan and all that, did you see this? Salute to Jordan, bro. What happened? Jordan is dominating in NASCAR.

Ain't nobody really talking about. about it, Joe. They worried about the wrong shit. Like, they worried because he grabbed, you know, Tyler Reddick's neck. Like, yo, I'm the owner of the team. Yeah, I grab you on your neck and give you a kiss. Thank you. You just want us our fifth motherfucking, you know, NASCAR championship this year. You do that too. Like, my man does that to me. Men do not to another. That's Michael Jordan. Do you hear how bricked up we got talking about his sneakers? Michael Jordan, you're walking here right now. Grab us all around. around the neck, kiss it's on the forehead.

That's MJ, yo, rubble it on my head like a little boy. You know what I mean? I was watching that and I'm like, yo, I think he could do that to me in front of my wife. I think I might be all right with it. I think I might be all right. I can't think. I probably be like, yo, we're not washing this hat.

I can't think of too many people of any race, gender, size, color, creed that Michael Jordan couldn't do that. And ain't nobody gonna say shit and y'all know y'all would be. Come on, man. I can go, walk up on you, grab you by your neck, hitched on your fucking hat, give you a little shape, and walk off. Big old hand.

You know what I mean? You're like, yo, that was MJ, bro. Big old hand, he grabbed that whole throat. Get the fuck out of here. Get out of here. Would you let Jordan take the ice out your shorts? What? Yeah, of course.

I know that. Trying to take the ice out of the kids' shop. No, that ain't what you're talking about. You're talking about that little boy that was in the kitchen. Remember you've seen that video when he sticking the ice up his ass and the mama walking, Mama, I'm hot. What?

You ain't never see that tale? You never see the mama I'm hot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You never saw that video? You don't ever saw that video? Yeah, yo, find that video, Mama, I'm hot. Mama, I'm hot. You never seen that video, man?

The little boy is in the kitchen, in the refrigerator. This is an old internet classic. But this is the second time kind of recently, Jordan. Just a little handsy. You've never seen this, man? He's like that actor. Look, look. What are you doing?

Go to your father's house. Go to your father's house. Oh, I'm hot. Go to your father's house. Hold on. You're going. What are you doing? Go to your father's house.

Go to your father's house. Oh, I'm hot. Go to your father's house. Go to your father's house. Yo, this is a better example of climate change. Look at this comment right here. What? So this is on a Jordan video.

It says the driver in this clip is Denny Hamlin, who is the co-owner of MJ's NASCAR team. Denny also drives full-time for Joe Gibbs. Denny was about to win this race before the caution came out, setting up overtime, in which Denny choked the win away, and 2311 driver Tyler Reddick snagged his fifth win of the year. Danny and MJ talked smack and did so before the race. Y'all are ready way... You meant to put really. You're really way too far into this. So he lost, and MJ's putting salt in the war. Oh, so choked him. So he gave him the choke. Wow.

This motherfucker is diabolical. And then rubbed his head. Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Don't forget. Never forget. Don't ever forget who the fucking goals of all goats is. Okay. That's Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

Stop playing with him. Generational talent. Generational, man. Michael never fumbled, bro. Never. Never fumbled? Not even with baseball. Okay.

Nah, because you would wear that jersey right now. If somebody came in, if they put the Jordan Barron's retro jersey up for sale, which it might be already, everybody running to get that shit right now. Come on, man. All of that shit was moments in time. He does what the fuck he wants to do when he wants to do it, man. Shout out to MJ. He didn't need to do the wizard to run.

He was good. He didn't, but we don't remember that. I low-key, as an adult, as like a 40-year-old, I only like watching old people do shit now. I don't like watching kids do shit. I like watching, like, 42-year-old skateboarding. Like, I watch Bamargera skateboarding now. You know, Bam from Jack.

and it is so enjoyable. I love it. Man, got to be 50 something now, right? I think Bam is like our age. Anyway, point is... I'm 47, bro. He's 47? I'm 47.

All right, you're a little older. But the point I'm trying to make is, like, I can't imagine what it must have been like as a 40-year-old back then, seeing the goat come back and still drop 40-some games and still put up numbers. Like, yeah, maybe he didn't dominate the league, but, like, the fact that he's competing

with these young guys and bullying them and, like, is still effective? I guess, yeah. It's like euphoric as a fucking adult. And also, too, he acted like he just came back, you know, to play with the Wizards because he was scratching an itch. He was part of the team. He was trying to instill a culture into the squad.

You know what I mean? I love when Jay Zee said, I'm Michael Jordan. I played for the team I own. Like, that shit was different. You didn't need to sell it to... Hey, but who cares? You weren't just ruining the narrative. Why didn't ruin the narrative?

I'm ruining the narrative. Let's pay some bills, man. Pezzi, you got some church announcements? Yes, sir. Ski. I got some shows coming up, man. I'll be in Tampa this weekend, man. Thank you guys for selling out.

I think Denver sold out. Salt Lake sold out, but we're going to do to Netflix is a joke fest, me, jelly roll, and we just added a bunch of comics onto that, so make sure you check that out. Might be a few tickets left for that. That's May 8th in Los Angeles. We just added Virginia Beach as well, June, I think, 5th and 6th.

So go check those shows out And we're going to be announcing Some more shows soon for this summer and into fall And then maybe another cool announcement That I don't know if I could say just now This Saturday, Salute to everybody I will see At the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival

In Atlanta, Georgia, man, We will be there from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. at P.m. at Pullman Yards. I love the Black Effect Podcast Festival. We say it's a family affair, but it really is, man. Drink Champs is going to be on that stage. My guys, N-O-R-E, DJEFN, they will be in conversation with Seel Green, and I hope Seel brings the rest of Goody Mob since we're in Atlanta,

and Kay Michelle. Kay Michelle will be on Drink Champs Live on that stage as well. Crystal Renee Hayeslet with the Keep It Positive Sweetie Podcast. She will be in conversation with Young Miami, me so it's a Carisha please keep it positive sweetie mash up my guy Deontay Kyle and big ice cup cat the grits and eggs podcast they're going to be there as well Carlos King with reality with the king is going to be there uh Jeff Teague and the Club 520 podcast is going to be there and Mona big Mona don't call me white girl she'll be there as well so we'll see you bright and early 11 a.m.

And listen um we always start with a bang like you know these these podcasts are all heat So we're starting the show. 11 o'clock on the dot. Well, no, actually around 12, 12, right? 12 o'clock with Gritchin' eggs podcast. So you're going to want to be in the building, okay? Gritchin' eggs podcast starting right at noon. My guy, Roger Carroof, he's got the NASCAR race car simulator out there for the kids to play around there.

We got to pitch your podcast booth. All the vendors, all the food trucks, everything you want. It's hosted by DJ Envi and Lauren LaRosa, and we'll see you this Saturday. Still a few tickets left. You can go to blackfeck.com slash podcast festival to get your tickets. And we'll see you Saturday in ATL. Shorty!

Don't find me, too. I'm going to be giving interviews and everything. Taylor going to be out there doing something. What day got you doing, Taylor? I'm going to be hosting the stream. So I'm going to be out there on the screen. Hopefully Taylor don't get us in no trouble. Are you live streaming the whole day?

I don't know. I'm not going to get y'all in trouble. I know what to do. Ain't you. I'm worried about it. There's other people in the crowd. What are you going to do if someone? dropping 90s gay slur for no reason.

We're not gonna put it out then. It's live streamed. I didn't think about that. What are you talking about? Why you say that now when people wouldn't think about doing it? They might. They might. They might.

People are crazy. Our people are crazy. Yeah, please don't do that. When you're on breakfast club scream or bring in a need to scream, like we ain't up a dinner stream. But our people are crazy. We can't go live. We can't go live.

Every week. every weekend. My show is live on Sundays every weekend. Do not drop that little dick joke that they like to play with me. Oh, the dick joke, crazy. You're telling them. Tell me, tell me, tell me. Tell me. Tell me, what's the dick joke?

Tell me, what's the dick joke? Shut up. A bunch of them. It's all of them. Yo, what's up, yo? And Taylor, you look like Lotto. Lotto who? Lada dicking you and all of that type of shit like that.

Play me if you want. Well, you can't know. You can't do that, Taylor. You can't do that. with that. I'm a fiancé now with a mother. No. You're a fiancé now and a mother. A fiance now and a mother.

And you're forgetting something. What? Who's dropping on your book, your privilege. Oh, Jess O Jess O'Lariance. Justa Lariens will be out Tuesday. Let's go, Judge. Jess will be out Tuesday with Tell Deaf Do We Parent? Okay.

Her book will be out this Tuesday. Everywhere you buy books, you can still pre-order it right now. now be a black privilege in Simon and Houston, man. So yeah, for all you people out there that are co-parenting, okay? Like, you know, you've moved on to other relationships, but you're still cool

with your baby mother, still cool with your baby father, and y'all have figured out a way to properly co-parent. That is the story she is telling. She's telling the story of co-parenting with her baby daddy, roamed. But now she's married. Tell, can you read it to the Munchin clip, please?

She caught it quick. She smiled immediately. I am not sure of me. What about the tuck her clip? You got to tuck her clip? You got to tuck her clip? What do we think of Tucker Carlson, man? He said Tucker.

Like, if you just said it regular. You think so? Yeah. Like, you emphasized it too much and you gave it away. Let's practice. Let's practice. Because I don't know how that one would work. All right, go, go, go, go.

I don't even know if that works. That's what I'm saying. You know Tucker? Who? I don't even know what to go with it. Tucker a dick in your mouth? That's not working. Well, no, you could be stuck in a transdict.

You could. Yeah, that could work. Yeah, that could work. Yeah, you're talking to you back. Progressive. Yes, that's right. That's right. What do we think?

What's Tucker up to? Tucker is saying that he is tormented by his past support for Trump, and he apologized for misleading people on Trump. Let's play the clip. Played a clip, played a clip, because, I mean, you and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him, I campaign for him. I mean, we're implicated in this for sure. Yes. It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind. We're like, oh, this is bad. I'm out. It's like in very small ways,

but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. Yes. So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say, I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

But anyway, but the question does present itself immediately, like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy nut, but, like, clearly there were signs of low character. We knew that. What are our thoughts? What do you think? I have a few thoughts. You know, I don't have a problem with him doing that, you know, if that's how he feels.

Like, truth is truth, right? Like, if that's your honest feeling, say it. I see a lot of people questioning whether it's sincere or not. I don't think that matters. The reason I don't think that matters is because if I'm a Democratic operative, all I need is that clip. I got what I want for the midterms, and I got what I want for, the election in 2008 because

he didn't say he's not MAGA he said he's just not with Trump he's saying Trump isn't doing the MAGA shit exactly so that

and if you know Tucker is one of the people who definitely champion JD Vance right he definitely wanted Trump to put JD Vance as BP me personally

I don't want anybody that was anywhere close to this administration you know in office in the future so what happens in the midterms what happens in 2020

is Tucker going to actually look at that same energy? Is he going to actually look for people who have real policies that want to benefit all Americans and actually put money in all Americans' pockets? Is he really want somebody that's actually a little pro-democracy? It's an interesting question. Or does he want somebody that's going to, that went along with this? Because come 20, 2008, I'm just putting this clip up if he endorses any of the opposition

and saying, you're really going to listen to this guy? If he endorses the opposition? If he endorses a J.D. Vance or a Rubio. You're saying the opposition to the Democrats. Yes. If I'm a Democrat and he's endorsing any of the opposition, I'm saying you're going to listen to him when he got it so wrong. Because again, think about it. You make a great point, which is he's saying this administration is not doing anything

that he thought they were going to do. He campaigned for them to do. That he endorsed that he raised money. He gave speeches. Like he was on that ass constantly supporting it. Now they're not doing it. So that goes for the whole administration. The whole administration.

So if he then goes and endorses these other people that were complicit and all the fuck shit that's happening, then where does he actually lie? Absolutely. Unless J.D. Vance doesn't pull up Kamala and say he's for everything that the previous administration about. Well, even to that, I would say, well. If he distanced himself and Trump administration finishes badly the way it's going? Too late. I think it's too late. I would say, why don't you keep that same energy while you're next to him and in office?

Yeah, do it now. I think that was one of the biggest issues people have with Kamala is. It's like, first of all, you say nothing about Gaza at all. You're in office while it's happening. You don't say anything. I mean, when you're campaign, you don't even say anything about it. So it's like, it's hard to believe that you think anything is going to change when the people in power and the people that are funding it have said that they're not going to make any statement

that's going to be any different. Yeah, if you're JD Vance, none of that looks strong if Trump already gets put out to the past. I feel like he does it. in little bits currently now. Like, even with Iran right now, he's like, let's it slip like, publicly he doesn't really do it.

Privately, he's probably saying, like, he's leaking. Oh, he's absolutely leaking. But to me, that's not enough. That's enough. Nah, JD, JD has to sound like Tucker, bro. No, I don't think so. J.D. has to sound like Tucker, bro.

J.D., you got to sound like Megan Kelly. You got to be so opposed to everything that's going on in administration. You can't stand by them and leave. bro, you can't do that. No, you can't do the double speak right now. The leaking is pussy, man. Like, I look, I mean, I think...

The leaking is pussy. It's discharged, though. Come on, man. You're not from Delaware, bro. Who has been radio? I'm just saying, it is, it is, though, right? Like, think about it. Because it is, you're basically trying to, like,

keep up with the Joneses, maintain the audience that still supports it while refuting it when the ballsy thing to do is, like, outright objected. And I think people will probably respect that because clearly the base is not happy. Yes. And the only other, I don't have,

I think that if Tucker feels this way, or anybody feels this way, they should be, they should say that. But the only other problem I have with this clip. Why has nobody stepped down? That's what's weird. I mean, people are.

Like who? Who do you mean? Joe Kent is the only one to step down. But he's not part of the Trump administration, right? He has his job previous. Well, you know what this is now. Trump put him in that. I don't think Trump appoints.

Do you see the opet in the hill? The opet in the hill that says, if Donald Trump wants to even remotely try to save his legacy, he should resign and say us for health reasons. It was an op-ed that came out this week. I forgot who wrote that, Chris. Do you see who wrote it? Yeah, it was an op-ed that came out and said

if he wants to even remotely try to preserve his legacy. He's not stepping down. He should step down and say that's for help for reasons. But the only other problem I have with this Tucker calls a clip is he said that it wasn't intentional. Tucker was too close to Trump for years. I mean, going back to when he was on Fox News, like he was too close to Trump

to say that it was not intentional. You're implying here that Tucker knew that Trump wasn't going to do any of the shit that he said he was going to do. I'm saying that Tucker knew enough about Trump's bullshit. He, he, in those leaks that came out for that, uh, the voting machine shit. You're saying, not the voting machine shit when Fox got sued.

Yeah. There's literally Tucker Carlson is saying, I hate this guy. Yeah, so you're saying he knew enough to not trust him but chose to trust. Yes. Even in this clip, he goes, we knew there was signs of low character.

It's the same Tucker Carlson who's hitting up Hunter Biden behind the scenes. No, he ended up, Joe asking for, hey, I need to get my kid into Georgetown. Can you write me a letter?

Yeah. It's all performative with this guy. Yo, he literally said, let me get the exact quote. He literally said, I hate Trump. Right, so if you're a Democratic strategist right now, right? And you see this.

Are you, what is the, what is the move right here? Is it? Well, it's a difficult, it's a good question, right? What's the move with Marjorie Taylor Green? What's the move with all? You don't have to make them a hero by any means.

But you want to amplify that. But you could be like, oh, wow, the walls are closing in. Right. How do we capitalize on the walls closing in? That's this, that's the smart strategic move. It's tough, though, because you take a guy like Tucker, yes, he's saying that he regrets what he did. He's also really promoting a very heavy, like, white nationalist agenda. You don't bring in somebody who you're not aligned with, right?

Right. 100%, but you do use it as an emphasis that even the people within the party, because that is a kind of, yeah, that is a. These quotes aren't for opposition. These quotes are for the party, the base, the other Republicans, the other MAGA, like, look, even guys like Tucker Carlson who championed them, who probably was influenced by to even support him, our jumping ship. That's what that's for.

Listen, when, when, two years ago, when I say something like, I regret voting for Biden, right? Why did I say I regret voting for Biden? Because I saw where things were going. I was seeing the public sentiment of the people. I saw how he fucked up the border. I saw how the economy was trash and how people were feeling about it. And if Donald Trump was going to be, which we see he is, the threat to democracy that everybody was saying he was going to be, this guy can't beat him.

You know what I'm saying? This guy cannot beat him. So when I expressed that, what did the right do? Amplified it. Amplified it. They didn't amplify that for their people. They amplified it for the opposite. Absolutely.

So you think that's what Democrats should do right now? Easy, easy call. And once again, I want to read Tucker Carlson, in 2021 private texts following the January 6th, 2021 capital right, text messages released during the Dominion voting system's lawsuit against Fox News revealed that Carlson told a producer, I hate him, Trump passionately, and I can't handle much more of this. So he can't say it wasn't intentional.

If I say I don't fuck with you, I hate you, but then I purposely, you know, drive people towards you and stand by you, it's intentional. That's an intentional choice. But the thing is, he gets caught so many times, like, being fake, like back at Fox News, when you saw the text messages, and now he's, like, jumping shit. Like he's a grifter, but for some reason, he still keeps the trust of his base. Because the new cycle is so fragmented. I keep telling you this.

For every time you, I can pull up clips of him probably contradicting himself. All the time. But then I can also pull up clips like this. It's about, again, I don't know. I don't know. But like, to me, I think it's about like when you're getting what you want from someone, you don't really question the other things that are happening. right so it's like if if for example you're a persian american you want to see the liberation of your

family in iran you probably hate a bunch of things that trump is doing but in this specific thing you're going i'd really like my grandma and grandpa would be able to like live free that'd be awesome so all a sudden you're supportive of this thing despite hating a bunch of other stuff that's going on and i'm sure that's where like a lot of democrats said like we're supportive of kamala i'm sure they were like it's really horrible what's happening in gaza but there are these other things that I would really like to see not happen. So they were able to kind of like, you know, put more priority or put more of their emphasis on certain things.

And that's the difficult thing about voting for somebody, right? You inevitably are supporting something. Like, I imagine when you voted for Kamala, you weren't voting for Gaza to be destroyed and you loved it so much. But you did vote for it. You know what I mean? Yeah, because you didn't want American democracy. You prioritized other things.

Yeah, you didn't want to. You know what I mean? Like that's, you didn't. That's the administration of power. That's the administration paying for it. But we also didn't want American democracy to fail. So you prioritize that over it, 100%. Of course, I don't think you want any of that thing.

But this is the dynamic when there's two options. You inevitably are going to have to support some shit that you vehemently hate and disagree with. So now that he's turning on Trump, you think it's because he's on the outs from the Trump circle? I think he's a very, again, I don't know Tucker or anything, but by assumption, he's a very specific world. you and he doesn't like a Jewish influence. He doesn't like the American Israeli alliance. And I think that Trump is not strong enough on Israel. And I think that's really the source of frustration. I don't think it's anything besides that. I think it's, I think it's, I think it's, I think, go, go. I think it's another sigh up. And I'm going to tell you what I mean by this. And I said this

much ago, but, you know, I'm retarded. So nobody really listens to me until later. conservative voices for the last couple of years have been the strongest voices we can say that, right? You mean in media? In media?

Or the loudest voices in the media? Yes. Yes. In the loudest voices in the media the last couple of years. What I would say is that I think the conservative... Sorry, I would say

conservative voices occupied the internet space first and therefore grew audiences online where the majority of people are. Yes. And I think now you see like, liberal voices, like the Midas Touch podcast is like a huge podcast. And like you see a lot of these other liberal voices that have now taken hold online. But I think it was they were just a

little bit later the game. And I think the conservative voices were early to the online. I mean like Alex Jones is like, wow, motherfucker boy, but he was online a decade ago. Well, Midas is also working because you could argue they're copying kind of the conservative blueprint. Yeah. But very hard. They big headlines. There's not a ton of nuance. and it's the same like constant cadence. Well, listen, this is the point. Conservative voice were the biggest voices. You have the people like the Midas Touches who cut through.

People like Midas Touch, they've been saying all of this about Donald Trump, right? A lot of liberal voices have been saying all of this about Donald Trump. Right now is their moment where they could be like, we told you so, we were right. but not if a conservative like the tugging Carlson's, Megan Kelly's, the Allen Jones, the Candace Owens, the people who already had the big voices, when they come out and be like,

oh, no, Donald Trump fucked up. Donald Trump is, you know, he's causing all of his chaos. He's causing all his commotion. Now, that becomes the bigger story because they weren't opposition. They were the ones who were actually pushing him and supporting him.

So therefore, they still remain the biggest voices and they also look more honest than everybody else. Why? Because liberal media still ain't talking about Israel the way that these guys are. Liberal media is not talking about Israel the way these guys are. Now I'm talking about mainstream liberal media.

Now I'm not talking about like Medi Hassan and people who have independent platforms. No, no, you're talking about mainstream. So they still sound like... I would say mainstream conservative media isn't even talking about it. Mainstream conservative media is not even. So they still look like they're ahead of the curve. So what happens?

come midterms, they still got a lot of influence. What happens come 2008, they still got a lot of influence because a lot of people are thinking, well, those guys told us the truth. Those guys told us the truth when it mattered. You know, there's not a liberal politician. And it's going to sound crazy, but I want you to think about what I'm saying,

who shouldn't be having those talking points on certain issues like the Tucker Carlson's and Megan Kelly's of the world have right now, especially... Which talking points? Israel. in the war and with Iran. And saying what?

Saying that the things that they're saying how they feel like America's in this war America's in this war because of Israel. Right, but the problem is

Tucker's a little bit of a Trojan horse on that topic. I mean, what you mean? What you mean? He's framing it as like, I'm just like

really confused about what's going on and it seems like these people have an outsized influence, like, you know.

I don't think he's been Chris, people want to hear. I think he's being very directed. But when you have that white nationalist agenda behind it, that's where you blur the line between very legitimate criticism of Israel and some more dangerous anti-Semitic stuff is what I'm saying. I'm not against you, but I'm telling you. So if he didn't have that white nationalist agenda,

because I watch him and I'm like, why the fuck am I agreeing with this guy? Okay, so why am I nodding with this? Tell me why you're agreeing with him. Because I think he's asking. questions that to your point, I think more people should be asking. I don't like him meeting on it. But can we just acknowledge this? A guy in the KKK and a guy in the Black Panthers can both agree that ice cream is good. Just because you're in opposition parties, doesn't mean that there are things that you see that you potentially agree on. And we don't

hear anybody else saying? Unless it's to sell poisoned ice cream. No, no, no. Again, the intention Chris, you're missing the point. Again, the intention behind it for that person might be different, but the intention behind the consumer is resonant. Right. Right. So it's like you feel a little bit, you feel uncomfortable, you feel discomfort, you feel discomfort and uncertainty about America's role in this war and the reason why we're in there

and what we potentially get out of, an American lives being lost, and an economy being affected, the global economy being affected. And all of a sudden, people are explaining those sentiments to you, even people that you vehemently disagree with on 99% of issues, but all of a sudden those things resonant, that's not shocking to me. Matter of fact, I don't think that we should completely disregard everything someone says

because maybe they're in opposition party. It'd be a really cool thing that we could look at and go, okay, I agree on that point. What you're saying, I think, is very valuable, which is what is the intention behind that point? Now, I don't think people care about the intention. They just want to hear it. I care.

I care. Well, well, Chris, Chris, I think. you make a good point, which is like, we should actually care because what is the later goal of that messaging? You might agree on face value with a piece of messaging and not understand the downstream effects of it, for sure. But what I think Shaw is saying is this is resonating with people. Yes. And that's something that I think people need to, especially in the media. But to your point and Chris's point, I think the intention behind it is what I said, y'all might have just said it a little more eloquent, is that his intention is to keep

a stranglehold on the influence that he has on people. So he's doing that by saying what he thinks people want to hear. Like in this article right here, Tucker Carlson has long criticized the Trump administration's military actions and has accused Trump of abandoning the America First Premise. He ran on. That's what people want. In June last year prior to the U.S. joining Israel

and launching strikes on three key Iranian nuclear sites, Carlson urged Trump against actively entering the conflict. The disagreement resulted in Trump publicly berating Carlson by referring to him is kooky. That's what people want. I agree with that. But then when you also have a very cordial conversation with the Nick Fentres, on the other hand, I got a question where this, the anti-Israel conversation is ultimately going.

Chris, I'm with you. But once again, news is fragmented. What if I never heard Tucker talk about the Israel stuff? What if I never heard Tucker talk about, you know, um, uh, uh, uh, I think we're talking about two different things, right? One is what's a smart media strategy? For who? For Tucker.

Undoubtedly, he's following a smart media strategy. Say everything that everybody wants to hear. I'm just questioning his agenda. Did you see the video of Tucker Carlson talking to the Black Israelite? No. It's like two videos of Tucker Carlson in the street talking to Black Israelites. And you wonder where he's getting this rhetoric from? You wonder where it's getting you.

Look it up. Look up Tucker Carlson talking to Black Israelites. You wonder where he's getting this rhetoric from? Did they dapp him up? Like, nah, he's good. Like, this guy's... I just saw Climberman. If your so-called white man,

if your line goes back to the Edomites, do you know anything about Edom or Esau? Yeah. So what do you know about Edom or Esau? Well, Esau. Brother Esau? Jacob's brother. Yeah.

Okay, who are the descendants of Jacob? I think the Jews and then the Arabs are the sentenced to be said it to be said it. Are you talking about the white Jews? There you go. I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, where the descendants of shape? What is black Israelites position on American Jews?

I don't even know. Boy, shut up. Seriously? I'm not even, what? I've always liked the black Israelites. Ignorance is this. I like these guys, man. What kind of question was that?

Was that a setup? What the fuck? They make Fuentes look liberal. But I've never seen them like to go after his city of guys. Well, just to Chris's point, is this a smart move for him? Because if Trump still has the power, now he's out of the circle and now he's not going to have the access that he wants to have. The powers that influence, not the office. And his base, I imagine, shares these sentiments.

And in order to maintain that, and I'm not saying that he doesn't actually feel this way. I think that right now we're sitting here and assuming that he doesn't feel this way. Like he might actually feel this way and he's upset the things that Trump are doing. That's a possibility. So what you said earlier is he should have known better, right? Which is fair. Yeah. So, but like I also think that his base wants this.

And if he just banks Trump, no matter what, his base would be like, ah, you sold out too. That's what I assume. Yeah, you dick suck a tucker. But also, no, you're going to see more of this. Damn, I had a point, but I forgot it too. You're going to see more. Who's the next to jump? I mean, they're all jumping.

I mean, they just haven't, I didn't see nobody apologize, like Tucker apologizing that way, but they're all, you know, jumping. Oh, that's the thing I wanted to say. It's not going to hurt him being outside of Trump, sir. Because Trump cares about proximity to power as well. Exactly. As long as Tucker got his audience and Tucker got millions of people watching him, Trump would absolutely positively be standing next to Trump.

Trump again. We just, Rogan, he just signed an executive order for Rogan last week. After Rogan was shitting all over the world. Exactly. Okay. I hear what you're saying, but I mean, Trump still has Foxx News. Like, you could beef with him, he's going to bring you a lot of independent people that, no matter what Trump is, right? There's not one platform Trump has, Fox, CBS, about to be seeing it, that's more powerful than what's going on online. I don't care.

What's the Jewish guy? Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro. He still has a lot of voices. that are still team Trump. That are powerful voices. They kind of think he is, there are voices that have vested interests in this war. And like, doesn't it now fracture the party? So now come midter.

That's the conversation. Trump going for somebody and then you'll have. That's the conversation. You know, I mean, like the benefit, I think the best, the fear obviously with the Democrats, right? Like what I imagine,

why I imagine, like after Bernie, I think this is what in like 20, what is this, 2020 or 2024 when like Bernie won Iowa and then like every Democratic candidate dropped out. So it was 2020. Bernie wins Iowa. Then every Democratic candidate running like all of a sudden drops out except Elizabeth Warren.

And Elizabeth Warren stays into the end. And it's like, I imagine there's a conversation that happens where they're like, hey, Elizabeth, you can divide the progressive vote between you and Bernie. So Bernie won't take away from Biden. And we'll get everybody else that's like just a center left candidate to be out of here. Biden can get all those votes. And it's a strategic position because having a divided party,

you will fail, you will lose. Like, what did Ross Perrault do? Right? Yeah. You could argue Clinton wins because Ross is in there getting what, 10%, 20% of the votes? Like, yeah, I thought it was more than that.

I'm talking about Tucker's base because wouldn't it be more advantageous to him to just like try to mold his base to be like, okay, we can point out the bad things Trump is doing, but we're still team Trump to keep up together. You assume that he leads the base. I think what Chris and Charlemagne are positing is that the base leads him.

He's putting his finger up. That's it. That's it. Their suggestion is that he tells him how to say. No, no. Their suggestion is that the base or that the algorithm or what is trending is pushing his ideas. And again, I don't know. But if he was the person that was curating the minds of these people, then he could say whatever he

want. But it seems like there's an energy that exists online that is palpable. That's right. And that energy needs to be served. and the people that are serving that energy are going to be incredibly influential and successful because you're essentially organizing ideas for people's feelings.

And that's what the media really does in a lot of ways. It's like, hey, we feel this stuff. We're angry. We feel this existential angst. Someone explained to me why we feel it. Yeah, the worst thing that he did was try to attack all of them in one tweet. Alex Jones, Candice, Owens, Tuck and Cawin'nick.

No, my boy, that's Iran. You ain't just getting rid of them like that. Yeah, I mean, like, Nanos tried to do that. You see what I'm saying? It didn't work out. He needed all the rings to do it. You know what I mean? He needed all the rings to do it.

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more time connecting brands with the moments and fandoms that matter most. Learn more at Accenture.com slash Spotify. All right, let's do some ask it. I want to shout out to Netflix, man, salute to everybody who's been watching the Breakfast Club podcast on Netflix a couple of weeks ago. Netflix had released, I guess, like the podcast charged the way they do the TV and the film. Oh, I saw that. Breakfast Club is the number one watch podcast.

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Stay tuned for the next movie. This next movie is going to be really, really, really dope, man. So salute to everybody who's watching Breakfast Club. on Netflix. Let's do some Askin idiots, Taylor Gang. Taylor, gang, gang. Y'all didn't, wait. Yeah, let's go to Ask an Idiot

because we got children at home. We got children at home. Including you, Mother of Taylor. I like being part of the group. That's good, man. It's good to see women who want to have kids nowadays. Yeah, no one wants to have them. They say that after they don't get it.

So wait, wait, wait, no, that's what I was going to get. What do you all think about Seth Rogen saying, how he's happy, he never had children, and thinks he got further in life because he didn't. He's married too. I'm not mad at stuff. I'm not mad at stuff for saying that. That's what he chose.

Yeah. Like, I'm not mad at that. It's a tricky position for us to be in because once you have kids, you can't imagine life. Without them. So the knee jerk is to be like, man, that guy's crazy. But he's also never had kids. So he doesn't know what it's like.

And other people's kids ain't your kids. Exactly. I can understand when you just around other people's kids how you're like, I don't want these motherfuckers. Yeah. It's like kids are like, other people's kids are like, like a motorcycle. But you don't even hear Taylor refer to her dog no more.

Remember her dog was her child. My dog is for my child. She didn't even talk about that little punk ass. Oh my God. I think she sold him for parts. I literally showed your picture. I ain't going to run. I literally showed your picture of my family with him in a minute.

I ain't see that little dog in a minute, okay. I'll be honest with you. All right. I don't even. I don't even. You're even crazy. If you have kids and you really into your dog.

If you still calling your dog, your kid after you have kids? Nah, something's wrong. Why? Because it's like you don't have more time. Like once you have kids, there's no more time. You're not going to ignore your kids

to play fetch with your dog. You're out of your fucking mind. You throw a ball with your kids. When they're older, it's okay. When they're older, they don't want nothing to do with you. Then you play with the dog. They play with the dog. Oh, they play with the dog, for sure.

My son and my dog are best friends. Definitely ain't your child. You don't refer to that dog. is your child no more. You know the difference. You don't wish you could send a little P outside the P. You don't bring the dog here. You wish you could just take all little P's clothes off and just send him outside. Go outside, man. When was the last time she brought the dog here, yo?

You don't care. That dog gone. First of all, I think the dog is gone. Proof of light. That dog gone. I know, okay, I'll show you a picture right now. You took that dog, Springfield, Ohio, our goddamn. That dog is gone. That dog is gone, Taylor. Okay.

You sold that dog for parts. I don't care what you say. Ah, man. AI. You're just saying, that's my child. That's my child. I mean, you don't say that no more. I still had to take care of him.

What do you mean? But once again, you ain't said that's your child. She also said have to. I have to take care of my son too. No, five minutes ago, no, you was like, I feel so good. I can't wait to get home. You want to take care of your child. You have to take care of that little punk-ass dog.

First of all, he got no punk. Leave my dog. Yo, why can't we be honest? What about where's your dog at? Okay. I don't even know what gender my dog is, be honest with you. Check this out.

Check this out. Check this out. Taylor, what would you do if your dog bit your son? Whoa. I would never ask. Sabaise. No, yeah, answer the question.

What would you do if your dog bit your son? I'll be his ass. I have a Frenchie though. It's not like I have a rock waller. Okay. What would you do if your son bit your dog? That's what it is. What would you do if your son bit your dog?

I would have his hand too. like, no, you don't bite him. Yeah, but you see, how did you see the difference? I would tap his hand. I would beat the dog, I'd beat the dog, though. Okay? Oh, that motherfucker. I would not.

I would not, David. You did. That's what you just said. Okay. Call up to come barbicking. Yeah, shut up. We're sleeping off. You're bleeping the name.

Why, why, why, why, why, why. Too crazy. Now it's phrasing. All right, my bad. He got the album coming out, though. Leave me, leave me, leave it. Okay, African idiots. What summer plan are you most excited about this 2026 summer?

Shala? Oh, I mean, all my summer plans are revolving around, I mean, of course, regular family vacation, but like my oldest daughter is going to college. So that's what we've been knee-deep in, you know, the visits, you know, freshman orientations, all of that shit. like that. I'm trying to, uh, I'm just trying to, you know, hold it together, man. This shit is sad. Yeah, it's like, it's, it's, being a human is the most complex thing in the world. I wish that people would stop acting like everything is so black and white on social media. Like, we take complex issues, bring them to social media and just flatten them and make it either this or that. No. Like, I don't care what the situation is. There's a whole bunch of complex emotions.

So on one hand, I am happy that I have raised this amazing human who's doing something I never did. My wife went to college, but I never went to college. She's going off to school. She's going to an amazing school. She had a lot of options of what school she could get into. You know, she made her own decision because if it was up to me, she'd be somewhere else. But I do like this school a lot as well. But she came to that conclusion.

I never even heard of this place until she found it because of, you know, the field that she wants to get in. And on the other hand, I'm like extremely extremely. extremely sad because I'm like, did I get to spend as much time with my baby over these last 17 years? Because I know this is it. This is it. Like this is adulthood. You spent, you probably at this point your life spent 95% of the time you're going to

spend with your daughter. You're right. And I mean, there's actually a study about that. I can't remember what the number was, but there's a percent, there's a study that shows you spend most of your time with your child between the age of 12 or something like that, yeah. I think, I think it's like 17 and 18. So it's going to be tough, but it's going to be all right.

All right, bro, I'm already feeling it. I ain't even going to fight. At least you guys. God damn. Three others at home. Yeah, but it's just different. That's your girl. That's your baby girl.

You did everything for her. Oh, you grinded. You sacrificed. But think how special the visits are going to be. That's what you have to say. He doesn't cry. And you know what she? She don't know all the things you did just to give her life you never had, man.

No, she do. We talk. She doesn't know. And it's great she doesn't know. I mean, but there's nothing she can't ask me. You know what I'm saying? I don't have no, I don't feel like we do ourselves any favors keeping secrets from our kids. You know what I'm saying?

That's why I'm glad I've written the books I've written. And I mean, God damn, please ask me questions about this shit we've been saying for the past. And also think about the alternative. Suppose you were the kid who wasn't ready. who didn't want to go. Yeah, yeah. Who didn't feel like they could fly. That would hurt worse.

That would hurt worse. I might want that, though. No, I don't know if it would hurt hurts, bro. Why? Only because I'm, uh, it, I don't have to deal with what I'm dealing with now. Like, yeah, stay home. You don't want that, though. You don't want that, though?

No, I know we don't. I stayed home until I was in my 30s. For the right reasons. I mean, it worked out, but like a lot of people would be like, what's going on? Yeah, but you were staying home, and I'm sure you were hustling. I was always. The kid who's a hustler. I was always getting after. The kid who's staying home and just

kind of in their room and not doing stuff and without direction? That's sad. That's sad. So you want somebody who's on the trajectory. Yeah, I mean like, yeah, kind of. I think about that. Like, I had an apartment basically next to theirs. But I think about

that, right? Chris and Schultz hustle culture, right? That's what America is. But what if we live somewhere where we didn't have to do any of that? What if we lived on an island somewhere where we didn't do nothing but, you know, we go fish, we pick up a little odd job, maybe open up a little beach shack or something, and you just cool out. Like, what's, it's pressure to be something in America. It's not pressure to be something in other places.

And by the way, when I say be something, sometimes just living is enough. Like, that wouldn't bother me either. Yeah, but I think you're at a point of success where, like, you've achieved all your wildest dreams. So it's easy for you to be like, what if we just, go fish. Word. You know what I mean?

There's nothing that can happen in my life right now that's going to change my lifestyle. And we had Rhonda Rousie on Breakfast Club, man, and she said some ill shit. She was like, oh, this going to be my last fight with Netflix. And she was like, you know, this isn't even about money.

I was like, what if they, you know, they came back and bought you this back? She was like, there's no amount of money they can give me that's going to change my lifestyle. Yeah. And I think that's a good place to be. Because now you're not chasing anything. Now you're doing things because you want to

not because you have to. Yeah. Like taking care of. your dog, Taylor. What about that dog? All my summer plans all my summer plans revolving around

my first born going to college. What about you? I look forward to, I got a little project that I'm going to have to do this summer in LA, I think.

And then outside of that, I look forward to just like hanging out with the family out east and like, what if this summer my daughter learns how to swim?

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I'm looking for like crazy milestones. Also, Now that my daughter's a little bit older, just kind of like keeping her on my hip when I just do shit throughout the day. Like I got errands to go do like, yo, just roll with me. Let's do it.

She's walking now. She's moving. It's not as crazy as it was. She's two, yeah. So like. Enjoy it, bro. She'll be 17 tomorrow. That's the thing.

And so yeah. So there's, and then also like my son is getting a little bit older where he's starting to kind of like recognize things. You know, so, you know, he's about to probably get. into that age where he's making him laugh a little bit. He's kind of communicating in his own way. So I look forward to kind of soaking up that time. That's what I'm excited about. I'm going out of use this summer.

Really? I'm coming out there in July. For the whole month? Not the whole month. Like, probably a week. Some friends invited us out there. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

Where are? Yeah, I don't fucking know. I can tell you after we get off here, but I don't fucking know. I mean, I don't know the location. This makes me so happy. Yeah, my fuck a way. I'm so happy. What else we got to?

Give me us a couple more asking. Oh, what's the around? We mean east. What? Oh, it's relaxed. What do you mean east, though? Yo, low key, the Hamptons, they have Hampton. Oh.

But low key, we should just rip an ep out there. Oh, that'd be fire. Right? That'd be fire. A lot from the Hamptons, have a few drinks. Yo. You know what I'm saying? Sam, Sylve, if you could pass down one technique, not trait to your kids, what would it be?

Technique? Hmm. Technique for what? though? That's a broad question, Sam, Silve. What do you mean about technique? I hope my son can hit it from his back the way I do. Oh, you got a good mean back game? I got a mean, I got a mean, not hit it from the back from your back. Like I got a mean. Oh, from your back. Oh, got you got you got you. Lay down. I hope he can do that. Yeah, but that's those are those those those are post moves you learn in your later life. That's that Jordan like, you know, his last

couple of years. His little shimmy. Yeah. What if he knows it young enough where he could just blow mine? Yeah. Well, you could. You could learn Jordan's late post games. Are the way Braun plays now? You could learn that early. Is that really a dad's dream? What?

Like, for your sons to get, like, girls and everything like that? Like, that's your dream. Yo, you know whose dream it really is? And you're gonna find this out, too. Moms? Moms will talk all this shit about how, like, man ain't shit, and guys cheat and guys do all this. And the second they get a son,

all they do is talk about, like, oh, he's not. talk about like, oh, he's going to be a lady killer. He's such a flirt. My son is three months old. All he does is throw up. And my wife is like, yo, he's a flirt. Like, this dude stays hitting on girls. I'm like, who's that flirting with?

Who's he talking to? You just want him to be the dudes you hated. Women always do this shit. Do you want little men to be able to get late or not? I want him to be very smart. I was telling, I was telling him. Smart people get late. You want to get no pussy?

I want him, I'm not worried about if he had sex or not. Like, I just want him to be married. But do you want him to be getting none or do you want him to be able to crack? We want to have this conversation. I don't want to talk about it. You know he's cracking something. He's nine months. Yeah, but when he's 18, you don't think that he's going to be causing.

That's a conversation with his dad. I don't want to have a conversation. Because one thing, he's not going to be cracking nothing in my house. Oh, of course you. I promise you, he's nice. I promise you, I'm embarrassed. No, now what you're going to do that. I promise you, I'm embarrassed the shit out of him.

Why would you do that? No, absolutely not. You not go up there. I've seen a mother embarrassed a young lady one time. That shit was so crazy, yo. Whatever. She walked in and she said, Who is this nasty asshole having sex in my living room?

Because he had to pull-out couch in the middle of the living room. So he was in the pull-out couch. And, like, it's a trailer, so you're in a pull-out couch. But we in another room, like, playing video games or something. The mom walks in like, oh, shit, we didn't hear her walk in. And we just waited for this show. Who's this? nasty ass bitch, slut-ass-house-hole, having sex in my motherfucking living room.

Nasty-assie-ass-bitch, your mama ain't teach you shit, and you ain't shit either, talking to her son. You ain't shit either. Fucking in my house like this. Who's that nasty-ass-ho? Nasty-assty-ass-haired. The girl didn't want to get out from under them covers. When she finally got out from under them covers, boy, they're talking to, but it changed. It went from nasty-ass-slut, nasty-hut, nasty, bitch, nasty, whatever, whatever. When she got out from under them covers, that's when the real conversation happened.

You're a lady. You ain't supposed to be moving like this. You're having sex in my mother. the fucking house, blah, blah, this and that. But I was like, God damn, could you at least let your son finish? Yeah, you got to let him finish. Nah, mm-mm. Had you shouldn't have been fucking in my house in the first place.

That was not me. I would never do this. You're going to yell at your son with a hard dick. I'll be pissed off, yeah. Get the fuck out. Who's this girl? Yeah, it's the. No sleepovers.

No. You say that now. You can be dapping them up. Okay. And if he does him and comes to his father, not me. Like, no. Never have to have to have a word with the. father.

Like, all just, like, happy and ginger. The only one that's fucking in the house should be me. It shouldn't be no one else. What about your husband? Well, duh. Us too. You didn't say that. You said me.

Oh, my gosh. That was some selfish shit. The only person to be fucking in the house is me. Might not be girls. You never had sex in your house. Stop, Chris. Stop. You never had sex in your house?

Did you ever have sex in your house growing up? Her parents' house. And your parents' house's growing up. There you have. All right. There doesn't mean that. So what you think he's going to do? Oh, he's going to be in there making pies in your house.

That's how he gets it from his grandma. Okay. I'm cooking cakes, Mom. That's what I'm doing like grandma. You don't think it would be better for this guys though? I'm not having this camera. Wait, what are you, bitch? This is crazy.

You're out of control. You guys are assuming he might be into dudes. So what I'm saying is, Who said it? God damn. You know, Chris is on drugs, man. No, I said anything about God. We were saying...

We were saying... We were saying... We were specific about girls. You literally started the combo thing. He wanted them to be a lady's... Right. Chris just wanted to be gay. Everybody's kids might be gay.

I don't know. Chris, what is going on? Yo, Chris, Chris. Why are you trying to put gay on this son? That had no... Well, what's the problem? No, there's no problem, but you just... What's the problem?

No, but you put gay on it on. Yeah, what's the problem? I'm saying why you, because why you put it in game on him? If there's no problem, what's the problem? There's no problem, why you put it in gay? Chris, let me ask you a question. Would you let Pinocchio put his nose in your butt and would you lie? He would have to lie.

Why? I don't understand. Who tells the lie? Panosio. Shit. Put on. You thought other people lying made his nose grow? Pinocchio.

Oh, shit. That's what it was. Yes, you're right. Yes, what you write. You write. You write. Okay, okay. Would you let Pinocchio put his nose in your butt and tell Pinocchio to lie on purpose?

On purpose. Yes. Would I know? I would not do that. Okay. Okay. Have you ever wondered about that even with your kids? Like their sexuality and stuff?

Yeah, my kids are straight. Is there something wrong with that? No. Bro, what is straight in 2006? Not much. Not much, to be honest. I want to ride it all night long. A lot of interstate you can get off on this highway.

this highway in 2020. Thanks. When you say your child is straight, just because the road is straight, don't mean it's not a lot of intersections. My daughter's entire crew is gay almost to a person. You know? My daughter, like all her friends are lesbians. How do you know?

Because they talk about it. What do they say? They, in detail? They say that girl's cute. I'm dating this girl. Like the scissor her or something like that. And I saw a stud with a fat ass the day and I just. No studs, lipstick lesbians.

Yeah, I saw a stud with a fat ass the day. And I just. What? I sat there and wondered, God, why did you give this studs for such a fat? Bro. I text Duvall. I literally, listen, I text Duvall. I said, Duvall, I don't know, I said, I said, why you think God gave Studs fat asses?

Duval. Studge never really wanted to be studs. Life just happened. Listen, as always, Who all's really Dumbledore, bro? He's Dumbledore, man. Kiyo? Why's wisdom?

Can I just say, happy birthday to Preezy, too? Happy birthday. Prizy? A Preezy, I don't know. A Preezy, happy birthday. Happy born day of Preezy. Thank you for being a brilliant idiot, man. We appreciate y'all, man.

Thank you for tuning in every week. And listen, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotist podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.

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