The Brilliant Idiots - Whipping Feet

Episode Date: May 3, 2024

In this episode Charlamagne Tha God is joined by Nyla Simone and they discuss their recent experiences at the Black Effect Podcast Festival and a visit to a strip club. The conversation delves into th...e sustainability of podcasting as a business and the importance of lowering expectations. They then analyze Kendrick Lamar's new song 'Euphoria' and its response to Drake's recent diss track. They also touch on the use of the N-word and the cultural backgrounds of biracial artists. They analyze specific lines from Kendrick Lamar's song and discuss the themes and subtopics they represent. They touch on accountability, the interpretation of lyrics, references to other artists, the use of gun bars and violence in rap, the concept of authenticity, the industry's perception of Drake, the dynamics between Drake and Kendrick, and the portrayal of women in rap. They also share personal anecdotes and opinions on various aspects of the song. The conversation revolves around the ongoing rap feud between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. We also pays tribute to Dallas Penn, a podcasting pioneer who recently passed away. RIP Dallas Penn Chapters 00:00 The Black Effect Podcast Festival 05:12 The Sustainability of Podcasting 06:35 The Controversy Surrounding the N-Word 23:30 The Importance of Timing in Diss Tracks 25:27 Strip Club Etiquette and Cultural Differences 29:10 The Desire for an Older Strip Club 31:02 Family and Personal Growth in the Music Industry 31:49 Accountability and Reaping What You Sow 33:16 Interpreting References and Meanings 34:39 The Use of Gun Bars and Violence in Rap 37:35 Authenticity and the Industry's Perception of Drake 38:34 The Dynamics Between Drake and Kendrick 41:30 Examining the Portrayal of Women in Rap 01:04:11 Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake Feud 01:06:00 Analyzing the Diss Tracks and Their Impact 01:08:27 Discussing the Cultural Significance and Race in Hip-Hop 01:14:05 Examining Specific Lyrics and References 01:19:07 Predicting Future Responses and the Current Score 01:37:58 Remembering Dallas Penn 01:46:26 #AskAnIdiot 01:50:07 Talking to Animals and Favorite White Person 01:55:16 Heaven Without Family and Reincarnation 02:05:11 Thoughts on Kanye West and Marijuana Legalization ************************************ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://t.co/AalidBrQrR Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Alice Randall "My Black Country" Out Now! https://a.co/d/1VTFp9i Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare TaylorMade-It Production Contact: Taylormadeitprod@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Charlamagne the God. We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness. You know this week, our guy, Andrew Schultz, is headlining Madison Square Garden, Friday night and Saturday night. Two sold-out shows, The Life Tour. The Life Tour will be at Madison Square Garden. You know, he sold out The Garden in like 90 minutes, man.
Starting point is 00:00:24 And so he's doing his show Friday. So he's getting prepared for that this week. So he won't be here this week. week, but we have an action-packed show for you nonetheless. NYLA is here. Yeah. Big Nyla. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We had a great week. We was in Atlanta for the second annual Black Effect podcast festival. That happened this weekend in Atlanta, man. Thank you to everybody who pulled up, everybody who came out, all the aspiring podcasters, all the people who have podcasts now. You know, it's just a real dope event for creatives. And, you know, somebody came to me this weekend and they said, you know, there's no other podcast festival out there. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Chris, am I, I think I'm, I think that's not correct. There was one that was around a few years ago called Now Hear This, which was in L.A. and New York. I think the thing that was unsuccessful about that festival and what works for Black Effect is, now Here This tried to take like, oh, we'll have one true crime show and one hip-hop. show when one LGBT, you know, they tried to hit every different genre. Yeah. And then when people got out of the live shows that they didn't care about, there was no energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Like, everybody was there for the same energy, the same space. Like, and I'm like, this is what works. And I think that's what you want. Like, you want something that's communal, maybe? Absolutely. Absolutely. I call it a black podcast family reunion. There you go. That's what I call it. Because, you know, you got the DJ playing through to my guy Louis V with providing the soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But it's real festival energy. Like you got the food trucks. You got the vendors. You got merch. You know, you got people walking around. They outside smoking their weed. We got alcohol. Like, it's a real festival.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You can talk to people. You can talk to people. Like, and you know, and this year we had it to where we had the speakers outside. So, you know, even if you're outside kicking it smoking your weed or whatever. you can still hear what's going on. And, you know, people come for different things. Like, you know, we started off high energy with the Poor Minds podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Then we came with a... Ball Alert. Before Ball Alert, it was a panel. Oh. I think it was a panel between Paul Minds and Ball Alert, if I'm not mistaken. It was the money... I can't remember what the name of it was,
Starting point is 00:02:51 but it was the business panel, basically. So John Hope Bryant was on that. Damon John was on that. Will Lucas was on that. Ashana Ayers was on that. But, oh, my mind slips me. It slips my mind. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:03 But thank you to everybody who participated. Then Ball Alert came out. Ball Alert brings out Tia. Right? And then, if I'm not mistaken, I think we either had another panel or it was Debbie Brown. I don't remember the lineup, man. I just can't recall. But I just know that every week, I like to cover all bases.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I like to cover everything that I'm into. So you know you're going to get your comedy with somebody like the Jess hilarious of the world, right? You know you're going to get your woman in the day. with poor minds and horrible decisions. You know, Wallo and Gilly, they're going to come out there and give you, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:34 laughter and you're going to learn something, right? Debbie Brown comes out there, quiets the whole crowd, makes the whole crowd meditate with her mindfulness, you know, and her meditation energy. So it was a fantastic show. I didn't miss nobody, right?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Horrible decisions. Ball alert, Wallo and Gilly, poor minds. Will Lucas. Will Lucas had the financial literacy covered. What about Steel and Glass Steel, that out stealing glasses. That was a branding and authenticity panel.
Starting point is 00:04:02 So steel, glasses, Mandy. Man, I can't remember who else was on that damn panel. Please forgive me. Blame it on my mind, not my heart. But I really appreciate y'all, man. And just once again, being out there and just being able to build with all the different, you know, creatives. Like, podcasting is really a thing.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah. Like, it's really a thing. I'll never forget Chris coming to me 12 years ago saying to me, you need to start a podcast and write a book. And I was like, why the fuck would I start a podcast when I got my own morning show? I literally said that to him, 12 years. I'm like, why the fuck would I start a podcast
Starting point is 00:04:38 when I got my own morning show? But then I started thinking, bro, you've been fired four times from radio. So at least having the podcast will always give you a voice. You'll always have a platform. Lo and behold, 12 years later, podcasting is a bidsness. Yeah. Like literally a billion dollar.
Starting point is 00:04:58 business as far as ad revenue is concerned. And growing. And growing. Do you think it's sustainable, though? I was thinking about that too. Like, when I think about, like, all of the different people that are out there, you know, doing podcasts, all of them can't be sustainable, right? Like, eventually, it's only going to be the cream of the crop. Are the people who can afford to stay in business, basically?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah, I think, like artists and labels and music industry, like media, talent. or the new artist signing with, you know, a label. Essentially, you can either help or hurt. You can end up shelves. You can not profit. You can recruit. You know, I think it's the same approach. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's the question is who is it's sustainable for, right?
Starting point is 00:05:45 For the creators is because the bar of entry is so low. Yep. Right? Like the whole reason we were able 12 years ago to say like, all right, fuck it. Let's just start a podcast or start a podcast. work even was there was no, there was nothing stopping us in terms of the capital we needed, the access we needed, and that's still true today. Anybody can ultimately make a podcast. Now, can you make a living off of it? Can you make a living off it? When you compare it to record
Starting point is 00:06:14 labels, because I hear people do that all at the time, how do you know when, when you got a hit, so to speak? Like, it feels like it takes longer to get a hit in podcasting than it does to get a hit in the music business. I think it's going to be more niche going forward, right? But like, I don't know, what's, what's your goal? What's your expectations? Is your goal to have a main source of income and then make an extra 50 grand a year doing a podcast you're really passionate? That's right. I think that's great. I think that every, if everybody lowers their expectation, see, the problem is, you know, number one, about four or five years ago, nobody knew the value of podcasts or everybody was overpaying for things, right?
Starting point is 00:06:55 So now the market has leveled out, and people know if this person gets this amount of downloads, this is the amount of money that they should be getting. And when it comes to the new podcast, I don't care how big your name is. You shouldn't just be throwing big bags of money at this person, because just because this person has a name doesn't mean that, you know, the podcasting, the podcast is going to grow.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And also what's happening now is, But what happened is everybody was lying. So yeah, motherfuckers lying about the millions of dollars they were making. You know you fucking lying. So if you lie and say you got 10 million, I mean, I'm talking about bums. Bums were lying. Like people that weren't getting any type of numbers, any type of traction was lying about the numbers that they were getting. So if the bums are lying, the top tier talent is like, yo, if the bums are getting this kind of money, why are we not getting that kind of money?
Starting point is 00:07:51 And you can't explain to the top 10 talent that the bums are lying other than to say bum's lie. I don't know why liars lie. They lie. That's the truth. And that is one thing that really, really ruined the game. And I think if everybody just lowers their expectations and realizes like, yo, if I can make a couple hundred thousand dollars a year or extra $100,000 a year talking for an hour and a half a week, that's a great living. You won. You won.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But, I mean, it depends what Chris said. It's like, what do you want out of it? Some people just want to be viral and let people hear them talk. You know, some people just want. Nah, it's about the dollar, dollar bills, y'all. There's a lot of people that do it as a hobby. Yeah, a lot of people just want to be seen. There's a lot of people that go to my studio and they just enjoy the act of doing it.
Starting point is 00:08:37 But who's listening to them? That's like people that go live and there's 10 people watching. I mean, I think nobody. Those people go live and there's 10 people watching. Media is like being an artist. There's singers who stay on the corner asking for change, but they do it. Damn. But seriously.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's the same thing. They want to do it just because they love to do it. Yeah, because even when you look at the space, right, like I'll be trying to explain to people, too. There's a lot of podcasts, not a lot, but there's quite a few people who go like really, really viral. Right? But then there's podcasts that don't go viral at all,
Starting point is 00:09:08 but these are the people that are doing super numbers. Like, how many of those true crime podcasts go viral, Chris? Very few, but their fan bases are plugged in in a way that the viral shows don't have. Yeah. How many, like how many, how many, how many of these news talk podcasts go viral? But they do millions of downloads per episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Like, it's the stuff that, that's why I laugh sometimes when I see certain people arguing about shit online. Like, I'm like, bro, you're not, you're not, you're not even in the real conversation of what's really moving this podcast world right now. Yeah. Well, it's within their niche. It's in their niche. You got like three or four people fighting for the same. small little share of the market. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Just, it's, but God bless them. I wish them the best. Okay, all I'm saying is the Black Effect Podcast Festival, second annual. We had a great time. We will be back in Atlanta again next year, already working on the lineup for next year. This was the,
Starting point is 00:10:08 this is only our second year, but we opened it up to podcasts that aren't even on Black Effect. Like, Wall & Gilly not with Black Effect. Ball Alert Show is not with Black Effect. Poor Mine is not with Black Effect, but I'm just like, that was never me and Dolly's vision
Starting point is 00:10:22 just to have Black Effect podcast up there. Our vision is people that are in the space. Like in the space, let's bring it out. Like it's literally a black podcast family reunion. So, you know, salute to everybody we saw, man. We went to the script club too in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Had a ball. Taylor never seen a pussy before. Well, one that she didn't, well, she never saw. This is so far. Taylor said she never saw pussy in the script club. Really? Oh, she did that.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I haven't. I haven't been to those strip clubs. Oh, you never been to a script club? I have, but the strip clubs I've been to, they still had at least like a thong going. You must have been up north, period. Yeah. Philly, New York area.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Okay, see, down south is different. I'm telling you y'all for years, you can go down south, put your whole foot in the vagina and wiggle your toes if you want. What? If you want to. Wait, wait, for real? If you wanted to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Why is that when naturally camp off the dump? Wait, that's her vagina is wearing me. So they get violated? like that? That's not violated. I said if they're into it. Yeah, if they're into it. So a guy could just swipe his hand like on a pussy and like, he'll be cool. Were you not in the same
Starting point is 00:11:29 place I was at Saturday? I didn't see anyone do that. You were on your phone too damn much. No, I wasn't. I was trying not to look. You should have looked up. I didn't want to look at it. All you had to do is look up. All the women around me that's exactly what they were doing. With her pussy? They were slapping ass. Women
Starting point is 00:11:45 like, I don't know. Ass is different. But that's what I'm saying like there were Oh, I didn't see no women playing with no woman. That's how I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what's still dirty. What you mean is you got one. It makes me squirm.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I don't like one of these two people like that. Salute the Magic City, yo. We had a ball in Magic City. Salute the Lala. Even though somebody stole your wings. Somebody definitely stole our wings in Magic City. Salute to Lala. We had a fantastic server.
Starting point is 00:12:11 She made sure the ones came. Magic City should I got my Magic City hoodie on right now. They gave me souvenirs. They had a good time. They gave me merch. You know what I mean? He left with Suva. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:21 That's crazy. They bring your ones. They give you a book bag. They bring your ones in the Magic City book bag. Oh, wow. Oh, it was fantastic. I haven't been in Magic City in so long. I mean, the last time I've been in Magic City,
Starting point is 00:12:32 I was dead broke, so it didn't even matter. But we had a ball in there. Somebody did steal our wings because we ordered wings. And a person went to the window and said they was with us. And so all the wings that we ordered, they took. They came up. God bless them. They came.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Clearly he was hungry. I have no... We live in a world where a president can probably afford to get in the script club, before they have a couple of drinks, but can't afford wings. That's how I know America is... We used to be a country. We used to be a proper country. We used to be a proper motherfucking country, man.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Let's do... When we was in there, they played like that. They did? Mm-hmm. Before I left. I went for the music. They played like that. No, I went...
Starting point is 00:13:15 He went over here a lot. I went because my wife likes to go. No, I did. We know the truth. My wife and Dolly, they wanted to go to the script club. Like, let's go. We ain't been to the script club in a couple of years. Last time we went to the script club was in Ghana.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So we went to Maddoch City. But I told you that. I wanted to go hear the music. I wanted to go hear what the DJs were playing in the script club. This guy's crazy. But I didn't really, I don't remember hearing like that. Yeah, they played like that. I was hearing all records.
Starting point is 00:13:39 You probably heard like that. They were playing it when y'all was picking the women. They probably wasn't paying attention. Oh, we was kicking all the lights on the section. Oh, my God. sift is that. Y'all did the same thing in Ghana, too. Where the dark skin skin's that? Where did the same thing? He did the same exact thing in Ghana. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Every time he smacked ass, he said, I love my wife. I love my wife. I'm like, you know what? I did that in Ghana? Yeah. I think you was... By the way, my wife was with us in Ghana. No, no, yeah. She was with you. Yes. That's right. She was bringing the dark skin women in this question. They got nervous. Telling the light skin women they had to go, okay? We don't want no women that can't say nigger no mo. We want the dark skin kisses in the section. Her and Dolly were really playing madam. I love it.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It was having a ball. Yeah, it was fun. It was having a ball. It was having a ball. But it was cool to hear like that in magic. Like that it was hitting in magic? Yeah. Really.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Stripper was going in with her leg. That's a dope-ass song. Great beat. Definitely. In a strip club? How much does it dance cost in a place like that? Did you get one? I didn't get a day.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Do you like pay individually? I was in a place like that. I was just, we were just throwing one. You don't know. You just, yeah. Isn't it usually 20? I mean, they come up to you and give you a day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:02 They come up to you and give you a day. You don't got to pay for that dance. So how much is it called? No, because he got a section. You got to throw money. Oh, yeah. We had a private room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 So they took us in the back. Have you been just in Philadelphia? Sure. Delilah's done in Philadelphia. I don't know that one. Every now and then you should go to the script club. Honey's crazy. Every now and then you should go to the script club.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I'm not going to find it. I thought about it. For the music, right? For the music. I do think they need an older script club though. Meaning like with older women. They probably do. Like I wouldn't mind a 40 and up script club with 40 and up script.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Charlotte, get out of here. I'm dead ass serious. What's the playlist? I get it. Like, Jeezee, you can still play the Jeezie and Ti and all that stuff that we came. I mean, they were playing Jeezie in Magic City. I just think you need a 40 and up script club. It just feel a little like, ah.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah, because they're chilling. You started to feel a little guilty, huh? A little, just a little. You know, I appreciate older men who feel weird about, you know, dealing with younger women. It just felt a little bit weird, you know what I mean? And then the youth is like they BB yelled out. You felt like Drake. What you mean?
Starting point is 00:16:13 I felt like Drake. Doesn't he like younger girls, no? What are you talking? What are you talking about? Come on. Well, that is what they were saying online. Yeah. You don't believe everything else to be online?
Starting point is 00:16:24 Hello. Not everything. Jesus Christ. Not everything. But I was going to say, I feel like tricking culture is so normal in Atlanta that younger girls dating a older man is very normal. So being at the strip club and seeing younger bitches like, pain. Why do you got to be a word? My God.
Starting point is 00:16:42 It's crazy. Women don't have no respect to each other. I admit that out of a term of endearment. Okay, okay. It's all about tone. Okay. So with them, that's normal. I think for you, it's not normal
Starting point is 00:16:55 because when you're dealing with women that age, you're working with them or, you know, your daughter's not far off. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking, yo. I'm not going to lie. Like, that shit will cross your mind. You'd be like, man, there's somebody daughter. That's why I was, you really?
Starting point is 00:17:10 But that's how I was trying to say too. You're like, dang. How long did it take you to start to look at it like that? Not long. Like, there wasn't long. at all. That's why I'd just be sitting back letting everybody enjoy their stuff. Like, damn, yo. But then I thought, but then that's when I'm like, spend the money, man. These girls need it. Give them the goddamn money. Like, please. Give them the money. Like, I don't know. They did.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I do wish it was just a script club. We're just like, I would at least say like 40 and up. You had a private session. They're not going to be that, because they're trying to get, they're supposed to be trying to get out of the strip club. You could have picked the older ones. You didn't have to pick the younger ones. You had a private little I was already being colorist. I didn't want to be ages, too. Oh. You know?
Starting point is 00:17:52 I was already being colorist. I can imagine that. Y'all got these 40-year-old strippers? I should have. So that's great. That's a wild. You're like, be like 35 up,
Starting point is 00:18:03 brown paper bag test up. 40 and up. That's right. 40 and up. Dark, Dr. Hugh. I don't be even finding any of those.
Starting point is 00:18:10 What? They're all my only fans. They're not in the strip club. No, they're on podcast now. You're right. All the old strippers is on. podcast telling old script of stories. Let's do some, any memes
Starting point is 00:18:21 necessary, Taylor. Any, what did it? All memes necessary? All memes necessary. Um, okay. While we play, let's get to it. I know. That's what I'm waiting for. Kendrick motherfucking
Starting point is 00:18:36 Lamar. Let's go! Kendrick motherfucking Lamar finally responded. He put out a record called Euphoria. No, it is. Is it finally?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Is it finally? Then he responds faster. Does that matter though right now, that I still matter? Because you said earlier, it doesn't matter no matter. It don't matter to me, but I think it does matter. I think that this record right here hits way harder if it's delivered a week ago. Yeah, no, I wish it was. I really do.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I think, I think this is... Why? Just because timing matters nowadays, and I can't stand all of these people that keep bringing up, Well, Nuz took three months to respond to Jay-Z when he put out Ether. bro, that was 2000, 2000 or 99, 2000. Time was so different thing. Everything was different. Time moves so.
Starting point is 00:19:22 You know how long three months is nowadays? Three months is a lifetime. I don't. Three months is three months. But three months is a lifetime in 2024. He didn't wait three months, though. How many days? Why are you pulling three months?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Let's do a count. How many days since push up? I think it was about 17. It was 17. Damn it. And I think they said it took Drake 23 to respond to like that. So it took Drake 23 days to respond to like that.
Starting point is 00:19:52 But Drake was on tour. Who cares? What you mean? He's busy on tour. And Greg's falling head. And Kendrick was busy raising his son. So now what? Y'all got to stop.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, I'm telling you, the internet is crazy. The way you can just manipulate people and just make them believe whatever you say is wild. All she said was Kendrick is busy raising. Is that not what he said? Listen, all of this is fun and games. So Drake jump out there and say. say Kendrick out here fucking white women,
Starting point is 00:20:16 then what y'all gonna do? But Kendrick said that. He already said that. It don't matter. And worldwide, whatever. He's not going to be as lyrics as as Kendra. It doesn't matter. It's different when you hear it.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It's different. It's different. It's different. Because everything that Kendrick said in euphoria has already been said. Yeah, but it's how he said. And it's going to be how Drake says it too. Not.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I don't know. Right now, Kendrick has had the better. Because guess what? Kendrick can still go back at Drake. Like, well, that's what my baby, my mom or wife is blue. What you could say for yourself? No, technically she's white.
Starting point is 00:20:46 According to you? According to you, she's white. According to you, she's white. And according to Kendrick, she's white. How? Because Kendix said if you have white, if you buy racial- Is she half white? No, she's half white.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Half-Lat. Now. Really? I didn't know that either, but I'm riding with Alex. I don't know. Alex, I don't know you lying. You should look that up. Look at it.
Starting point is 00:21:09 No. What? I don't believe that. Kendra got white babies, bro. According to y'all. According to him. According to him. What's her ethnicity?
Starting point is 00:21:18 She's black. Of course she's black. If you're biracial. I don't think she's, I know what she looks like, but she's right. Oh, it says she has African American ancestry from her father's side and her mother is biracial. Oh, her mother's by racial. So she's black still more black. She's still more black though than what Drake is.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And now we're going about percentage of that. Like that's great. That matters. So Drake is white, but his wife is butt. He was raised by white mom. Since we're here, let's have the conversation. Okay. I think it's funny that Drake, I mean, that people are calling Drake a white boy, I think it's
Starting point is 00:21:55 hilarious. I think it's funny that, you know, Kendrick is playing that card. But let's be clear, he's a black man, guys. Yes. Like, he's, come on. Like, the conversation isn't whether or not he's black. It's about, is he culture. Cole is.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Well, is he black culture. Yes, I agree. But also, I think the line about, I don't want to hear you. say nigger no more is about how he says, nigger, because there's a video of Drake going around where he's like having a casual conversation, but he says ER. But in a casual conversation,
Starting point is 00:22:28 it'd be like me being like, yo, that nigger right there. I don't told y'all, Drake, J. Cole, they should say nigg because they have black. I've been saying that for years. That's good for you too, Alex. I've been said that. They should be saying me.
Starting point is 00:22:43 If you buy racial, if you have white, you should not be allowed to say the whole word. I don't care if it's ERR GA at the end. You should have to say nigg. And that's it. Man, I'm with you. But since I moved to New York, I kind of had to bend to that rule because when in Rome and there's so many, like, Latin people here. And even Asian people out here saying, nigga, that I can't really do anything about.
Starting point is 00:23:08 But prior to moving here, like, that would never happen in Maryland. Man, Puerto Ricans in New York say nigger. Yeah. Mexicans in L.A. say nigger. If Drake can't say, if Drake can't say nigger, then let's really put the rules in place to who can't say it. I'm actually not mad if we do, though, because. Come.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm. Can I say something? You know what makes it worse why they're painting Drake is a white boy because when Pristee exposed him with the black face. So this looks more. I don't even think the thing about, We don't want to hear you say nigger no more It's just because...
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's just funny. You don't... Yeah, exactly. And you just don't have a cultural background. That's all it's saying. And by the way, Kendrick said it in the song. He was like, I don't like when you say niggins. And he goes, it ain't even that deep.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You know what I'm saying? It's just something that he personally doesn't like his fringe-worthy to him. I respect him for saying that. After seeing that clip of Drake saying it, the way he says it, I don't really like it either. I got to see that clip. I like this record a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:11 He starts off. by playing Richard Pryor from the Wiz backwards. Richard Pryor, this is when he gets exposed, and he's like, everything you're saying about me is true. I like that. And I like the little Easter eggs people are putting in music because they know that we live in an era where folks are going to digest every word.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I wish y'all had this back in the day when Mr. Yeliot did that. But I still don't know what the fuck she was talking about. I thought they said what it was already. Is it worth it? me work. Yeah. Oh, is that backwards?
Starting point is 00:24:44 Backwards? Oh, okay. And then, you know, I love how Kendrick starts it off nice and subtle, right? Here's the thing about this record. These aren't raps. This is a psychological analysis of a man. And not just a man, a man who Kendrick Lamar feels hasn't grown up. Hasn't grown up.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Hasn't grown as an artist. Hasn't grown as a man. He even has a line in the song where he goes, I know you the boy, but I ain't seen the man yet. Yeah. That right there lets you everything. He could have started that off in the beginning and let you know, you know, where he's going with the direction of his record. Go back to the top.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Taylor, go back to the top. Go back to the very top. Them superpowers get neutralized. I can only watch in silence. The famous act that we once knew is looking paranoid and now is spiraling. How many people do we know that we look at that are late 30s? 30s, 40 plus years old, and you can look at them spiring. You can see it.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You see it when they do interviews. You see it when they're on their podcast. You see it when they're doing goofy shit on social media. And you're like, what the fuck is wrong with this person? Like, that is an astute observation from a man who has a much more healed perspective than the person he's talking about. Then he says, you're moving just like a degenerate. Every antics is feeling distasteful. calculate you're not
Starting point is 00:26:11 make it big a tail because I can't see you know I calculate you're not as calculated I can even predict your angle fabrication stories on the family because you heard Mr. Moral I love this line the reason I love that line because Kendrick is saying y'all ain't got
Starting point is 00:26:24 you don't got shit on me remember I was on the podcast what are you going to say about Kendrick Lamar because Kendrick Lamar is literally all about the music he's not on social media giving up his personal life so what can you say about him because he's almost flawless as an MC. So he was like, you're lying based on stories. I told you on Mr. Morat. You're lying about
Starting point is 00:26:46 a pathetic master manipulator. I can smell the tails on you now. You're not a rap artist. You're a scam artist. Talking to him like he's Nigerian with the host of being accepted. This line is so hard. Tommy Hill figure stood out, but Fubu never has been in your collection. You've never been for us by us. You're not for us by us. God damn. That was good. I make music that electrifying them. You make music that pacifying them.
Starting point is 00:27:14 That's a bar. That's another bar. That's another bar. I make music that actually means something. You make music for the dummies. I can double down on that line, but spare you this time. That's random acts of kindness. Know you a master manipulator and habitual liar, too.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But don't tell no lie about me and I won't tell truth about you. That's old grandma talk. That's old black grandma talk. That's old black grandma from the South talk. Don't tell no lie about me and I won't tell truth about you. Now, what's this random act of kindness line? People keep saying that meant something. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Why? So Pacify could be a double entendre for Drake allegedly being with younger women. Why do y'all keep saying Drake dates young girls? Where is this shit coming from? Because when he liked some actress who happened to be, I think, 17 at the time. It was, wasn't Lotto? No, it was Lotto's sister. that's when...
Starting point is 00:28:06 He's 21. No, it was the actor. He's still... Oh, from Euphoria? He's grown. You won't let your two-year-old daughter date of 40. Millie Bobby Brown. Dricking 40.
Starting point is 00:28:16 What is he? 40. Something Bobby Brown. What was it? I can't hear. Millie Bobby Brown. Oh, Lily. How old is Drake?
Starting point is 00:28:23 You know what? I don't even care of what this man doing who he wanted to date. But what I do want to say is that I agree with you. I like how the temple of the record is calm. Calm. Like, because I was nervous after push-ups and in the AI record just because it was good. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It was really good. And then my thing was like, dang, how does Kendrick even attack this? So I'm thinking, okay, he got to come with a hit record. Because like that, it's a hit record. I'm thinking Kendrick has to do that again. But I like that he wanted a completely different approach. And we said on this podcast, he can't sound angry. We said that.
Starting point is 00:28:56 We was like, yo, he cannot sound angry. But not only that he does not sound angry like that. Everything made me laugh. Like every bar, I'm laughing as I'm listening to it's like, Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. By the end of it.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I'm like in tears laughing. Like this is funny. But you have to do that nowadays because of the era we end. Sadly, your music has to turn into a, your music has to take on a life of a song. Meaning that once you put certain things out, people need to be able to get their content off. Can I go on a podcast and talk about this, you know, for a couple of hours? Can I turn this into memes? Can I make this into witty captions?
Starting point is 00:29:34 He did that. because I'm telling every half breed I know I don't want to hear you say nigger no more In fact, even light skin people I'm telling you I don't want to hear you say nigger no more There's certain people I've used that term at least two or three times today I see people say things that I don't like
Starting point is 00:29:52 And I'm like you know what I don't want to hear that person say Who you said that to say? Don't worry about it I definitely said it today I saw somebody talking I saw a clip of an interview And I was like I don't want to see that person saying nigger no more, you know, y'allie
Starting point is 00:30:05 All right, let's go, Taylor. What else we go see? Let's see. What is that? Okay. Now the beat change. Right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I didn't like this part that much, so it was unnecessary. I don't even know what the fuck that means. I like it. I like it because it's cinematic. Yeah. I thought he could have just done the shoes. It really is cinematic. The BBB was like,
Starting point is 00:30:25 he's like, he's taking you to another gear. The only thing that scared me about that part is I swear I was like, here come baby keen. I was not. I'm not going to wear that nigga right now. And I like Baby Kim, but I don't want to hit it. I swear I was like, if Baby Kim starts this shit all, I'm going to be so fucking mad. I was like, please not right now, Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Leave your cousin at home in this moment. He wouldn't add him. Not to this. This one got to this. I just didn't know. Yeah. You know, he's been sneaking baby Kim on these records. I'm like, not right now.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Yeah. Now, Kendrick's, go ahead. Another point is that he dropped it on YouTube, you know? Like, this didn't go straight. Straight to D.S. Oh, really? So I kind of fuck with that because it's like you don't have to, non-traditional routes still matter.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. And still count. Like, you don't got to do the politics. Because I know people are saying that Drake and Kendrick are signed to the same label and that they're dealing with politics internally. We're trying to get things through. But it's like, Kendrick dropped down his official YouTube page and I got it instant. Well, I think he did that because he could control the time.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I don't know if this is true, but everybody was saying he dropped it at 8.24 a.m. Yeah, yeah. Is that true? I don't know. I didn't pay no attention. So that's cool. That was for Kobe Bryant. I don't know if that's true. You know, the internet runs and says any damn thing.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So if he did that, he can control that. I don't know if you can necessarily control that on DSBs. I don't think people will notice the time if it drops on a DSB. But he starts off. He says, yeah, I'm out the way. Yeah, I'm low. Okay. Yeah, the island right here is remote.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Okay. I ain't thinking about nor reap or nigger. I'm reaping what I sow. Okay. I don't need genius, Taylor. I don't want to know any facts. want to go off my interpretation off these records, okay? Right?
Starting point is 00:32:09 The reason I like this is because he said, I ain't thinking about no reaper. So, all right, I ain't thinking about death. Yeah. He said, I'm reaping what I soul, okay? I don't even know what that means, but it feels like he's taking accountability. For whatever he's about to say,
Starting point is 00:32:22 for whatever he's about to do, for whatever he's done, he's taking accountability for it. And now I'm about to give you these bars. Sounds like some filling lines to me. No, I think he's saying, like, the life he lives, solid because I'm reaping what I sew.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Like I've, I still, yeah, I'm not thinking about death. Like, I'm on an island. I'm low. I'm out the way. Yeah. I'm on this island by myself. I ain't thinking about death, which means I'm not thinking about nothing negative. And I'm reaping what I sow, okay, meaning I'm at peace.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah. I'm good. I'm good with mine. And I'm about to tell you how I know you're not good with yours. I'm about to tell you about all the demons that are disturbing you, okay? Got a Benjamin and a Jackson all in. my house like I'm Joe. I have no idea what that means. Okay. I'm gonna say that's Andre Benjamin and Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Okay. Yeah. So he's saying he's the dad still, I think. Because Joe is the dad. I'm Joe, I'm Joe Jackson. Yeah. But who would who would be, click on it now I want to see. Exactly. I think it's a playoff of Joe Jackson and Joe Biden. Interestingly, Ben, it's a title of all. Jackson could refer to Benjamin Franklin and Jackson. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right right. Whose faces appear on a $100 bill and $20 bill respectively. This interpretation, scroll up, Taylor, this interpretation would suggest that Kendrick is
Starting point is 00:33:41 likening himself, the 46th president Joe Biden. No, the fuck he's not. All right, never mind. See, that's my only one here to read you. That's terrible. Yeah, that's common. That's not. That's not.
Starting point is 00:33:50 What someone else said, though. Go back. I don't need to dissect every line. You got to pull up the Twitter investigators. Now, he said, Hellcat made his homeboys and them types sell their souls, okay? God damn, you got the type of friends that are selling soul for a hell cat, Drake. Everybody want to be a demon until they get chopped by your throwaway. And I might do a show a day.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Once and lame, always a lame. Oh, you thought the money, the power, or fame would make you go away? Great line, because we say that all the time. Money and fame can't un-lame you. Have you ever played? Have you ever? Okay, nigger, let's play. Have you ever?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Walked your enemy down like with a poker face. Have you ever paid $500,000 like to an open case? Well, I have and failed at both But I came out straight I love this line I hate when a rapper talk about guns Then somebody die They turn in the nuns
Starting point is 00:34:37 Then hop on line like pray for my city That is so true You know where he got that from though He's faking for likes and digital hugs What? Because Drake says someone passed away And he says something like that And I think he was imitating
Starting point is 00:34:49 But that's not just apply to Drake though Everybody does that Every single rapper that you know does that All these rappers that talk to gun talk all these rappers that talk about violence, as soon as somebody die, everybody want to pray and say rest in peace and, you know, we got to stop the violence. That's the craziest shit in the world to me. I saw D1 talking about that and I agree with him.
Starting point is 00:35:08 D1 said, you know, you know, it's crazy when he sees all of these rappers talk about killing people, but then you cry when somebody dies. Why even put that energy out there? If you're going to be sad when it happens, why even put that energy out there? Is daddy a killer? Now, who he's talking about? Who is the daddy? Is it his daddy daddy?
Starting point is 00:35:28 Dennis Graham. Is it Jay Prince? Is it Birdman? Oh, is it just the white man? Oh, wow. Who is his daddy? That's complicated. Is it the rich baby daddy that Kanye said Drake has?
Starting point is 00:35:41 Who is the kid? Who is the daddy? Who is the papy? Oh, my God. He wanted to be a junior. They must have forgot the shit that they'd done. This line is so hard. Dementia must run in his family,
Starting point is 00:35:53 but let it get shaky. I'll park his son. God, damn. The very first time I shot me a drake, or is it a Drake? A drink. The homie had told me to aim it this way. I didn't point down enough today. I'll show you I learned from those mistakes.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Fire. He letting you know I know how to shoot now. I know who I'm aiming at. I'm going to hit my target. It's a contradiction. Because he was like, yo, let's keep it peaceful and on wax. And now you're talking about shooting gun. But then don't even put gum bars in it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 This isn't literal, though. But don't put gum bars in it. You might be right. I think Drake was a playoff effect that his name is Drake awesome. Yeah, I get what you saying. You're not wrong. You just said it too lines out. You're right. But I'm 45 and I understand that this is just rap,
Starting point is 00:36:40 but I know somebody else may not understand that. But you're right. Somebody had told me that you got a ring. Talking about their Tupac ring he bought. On God, I'm ready to double the way so I can buy it back. I'd rather do that than let a Canadian nigga make Pock turning his grave. Cutthroat business, you got shit twisted. What is it?
Starting point is 00:36:56 it the braids? Nick, you jealous of my hair? Yo, the braids is hilarious? Is it your... Is it you? The braids got you acting crazy now? Do you think you are a gangster? Because you got braids now?
Starting point is 00:37:08 Drake? I hurt your... This shit is so funny because all of this sounds light skin. What is it? The braids? I hurt your feelings. You don't want to work with me no more. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I like how he said that too. How he said it in a little bit. No more for me no more. Okay. It's three ghosts left. Should be four. Because future's up there. But for the sake of the rap,
Starting point is 00:37:25 I know he only had to include three. There's three goats left, and I've seen two of them kissing and hugging on stage. They was kissing? They're talking about, I think you're talking about Beyonce and Jay-Z. Maybe. What?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Taylor? He's talking about these nicks going on tour together with first-person shooters. He said there's three ghosts left and I've seen two of them kissing. He's just saying, like, y'all niggas is praising each other every night at the show. My God, you're so talented.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I'm so thankful. That's what they're like. They wasn't kissing. They wasn't kissing. They weren't kissing. It was just being exaggerative. But that's what I mean with the gun bars, too. They wasn't really shooting and they're not really kissing.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah, but don't put gun bars at all. You just said all. Don't put gay bars! If they ain't really kissing, don't let them kiss. They definitely wasn't kissing, but the optics, I understand Kendrick's POV you on this optic-wise. One black man on stage kissing and hugging each other. I love him to death. And in eight bars, I'll explain that phrase, huh?
Starting point is 00:38:21 It's nothing nobody can tell me, huh? I don't want to talk on those sally, huh? I mean and I don't want to talk. You know I got language barriers. Ain't nobody can talk me off the ledge. It's no accent you can sell me. Yeah. Cole and Aubrey Norma, selfish nigger.
Starting point is 00:38:34 The crown is heavy. I pray they my real friends. If not, I'm Y and W. Melly. God, dang. Yeah, that was crazy. Poor Y NW. Melly. That shit is going to be used against him in the court of law.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Even Kendrick said he did it. God, damn. Jesus Christ. He did not say he did that. He definitely did. He did. That's absolutely saying he did it. But they're not going to put it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He might be just representing the record, not the court case. No, he's talking about the crazy. He's talking about. I don't like you popping shit of Farrell. When did Drake pop shit of Farrell? For him, I inherit the beef. Just four months after Ferrell was made. Just four months after Ferrell was made, the men's creative director for Lewis Vitton,
Starting point is 00:39:15 replacing the previous director of the laborer Abel. Drake makes it seem as though the company has become antiquated and unpopular. He also notes that he scrapped the chain designed by skateboard P-fares, noted that Drake's exported the chain made by Farrell in the official music video for his November 2020 track Jumbatron shit popping. If it was indeed melted down, it would be extremely disrespectful to Farrell that Drake destroyed one of his pieces of art. And it's all because he's with pusher.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Okay. All right. Oh, that's why. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. So Kendra says, fuck all that pushing P. Let me see you push it.
Starting point is 00:39:46 The P. Oh, I love that bar. You better off. You better off spinning. No, I didn't love that bar. That was a hard bar. And it's the way he delivered it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:39:55 No, that was a hardball because you got to think. Fuck all that pushing P, right? Yeah, you push it on Farrell. Let me see you push your T because you backed away from that nigga. You ran from that scrap. It's a delivery too. You gave us Duffy, but Duffy was 70, 80% about, you know, Kanye. Now, a little 20% you gave us about push your, push your hands on you your ass.
Starting point is 00:40:15 He did. Okay? I guess not. You better off spin it. I love this line, too. You bet off spinning again on him. You think about pushing me. He's Terrence Thornton.
Starting point is 00:40:23 He's Terrence Thornton, which is pushing. T's real name. I'm Terrence Crawford and I'm whooping your feet. Yeah, I'm a little short nigga. I'm gonna beat them goddamn toes up. I'm gonna beat those motherfucking toes up. I'm gonna whip on those coins, Aubrey. You know what? I ain't like that love. I love it. We ain't got to get personal. This is a friendly fade. You should keep it that way. I know some shit about niggas that may gonna want to look like a saint. Now, that one was, that one hit. It's a great line. Why is that not a great line, Alex? No, I'm just saying the contradictions. Like, we're friends.
Starting point is 00:40:57 We should keep this friendly. He says up there, oh, I hope we're friends. And then two lines later, he's going to be like, I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, which one is? Well, it's, listen. Probably both. Nah, come on. Alex, life is complicated.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah, right? You're reaching for this nigga is crazy. Why? Human beings are complicated. Like, you're telling me that in the span of a conversation, you can't go from angry to the sad. You can go to angry to sad, but you can't say, oh, I pray that he's my friend. And then I hate you in that. We got to stop lying.
Starting point is 00:41:27 This is why I don't have no problem saying I hate somebody because I got to feel my skills, my therapist says. But we be lying on stuff. We're like, I pray for him. I pray for that person. You know what I mean that shit? I don't even like that dude, Joe. I don't like that girl.
Starting point is 00:41:41 She need to fucking grow the fuck up. It's okay to say these things. And then after you get it out, then you come right back around and be like, but I pray for them, though. You know what I mean? Well, he's going to opposite. You know, Alex looks so disgusted with that response. What is he saying here?
Starting point is 00:41:57 Is he saying that he knows some things about people, God damn it, Taylor, go back. That if he starts, stop going to genius. I don't care about other people. He said, I know what shit about niggas that may gunna want to look like a saint. So he's saying he knows some things that if he starts talking,
Starting point is 00:42:13 it'll make gunna want to look like a saint. Or is he saying that... He's saying he knows things about Drake. He's essentially saying Drake's a snitch. Okay, so that's what I'm trying to say. So it's either Drake is a snitch are Kendrick is saying, I know some things that if I get to talking,
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'll make Gunna look like the same. That's what he said. Wait, go back. He knows about some crimes probably that have been committed. I know some shit about things. If I got to talk and I would look like a crazy story. Y'all got to stop calling Gunna a snitch too, man.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I really think y'all be doing Gunna wrong with that because if the young thug ain't say nothing yet, y'all got to stop doing that to Gunna. And Salute the Gunna, because Gunna ain't listening to none of y'all. Gunna is in that gym and Gunna got sexy on you hoes. You hear me? Okay. I don't think that, but I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I can't tell. I'm saying that the man is in shape is what I'm saying. There's two girls in the room when you're the one saying. This ain't about, this ain't been about critics, not about gimmicks, not about who the greatest. It's always been about love and hate. Now, let me say I'm the biggest hater. I love that. You know why I love that?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Because I am an OG veteran Drake hater. But I'm objective of my hate. You know what I'm saying? When Drake does some shit I like, I give them props. But I've been an OG veteran Drake hater. I don't even know why. But Kendra gave me some reasons. I hate the way that you are.
Starting point is 00:43:27 The way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. I hate the way that you sneak this. If I catch flight, it's going to be direct. I feel like he got that from when DMX was on Breakfast Club back in the day. That's what I like Drake. No. My name.
Starting point is 00:43:41 He didn't even say a little bit. That's my guy right there. That's why X is necessary in the game right there. Now, why don't you like drink? I don't like anything about Drake. Mom. I don't like his voice. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:53 He talks about, I don't know. I don't, I don't think he walks like nothing. I don't like a haircut. I might just, let me shut up. I'll just stop right there. You know, that's when, man. And when you was hype as hell too, hyping DMSO. You was hype.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Hite. That's what I was. I thought I was the only one. It feels good to know you not the only one. Now, 14 years later, all you all want to be Drake Hater. I don't want to be a Drake Hater no more. Because all you all want to be Drake did. It was fun to be a Drake Hater back then.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Kendrick said he's doing this for the culture. Everybody feels like this. This is great. We hate the bitches you fuck because they confuse themselves with real women. Yeah, that was a good line. I saw my guy Isaac Hayes III. He posted, what does that line even mean?
Starting point is 00:44:39 It's easy. All of these women who he calls B words think that they're real women. And they're not yet. Why can't they be real women? You said, and they what? They got BBLs and they got fake everything and they're probably fake people and they don't really have the morals and the values and the integrity of real women. If I got to tell you what a real woman is, Alex, you ain't never met one.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Oh, but what happened with Stan with black women like you? He is. He's shooting out a lot of women right now. We don't know what these bitches are. I mean, this is a very colorist, racist record. He used a B word. Y'all caught that. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:19 We don't know what color these women are. Yeah, but we know. the women that Drake has been with. We know a lot of them. Yeah. He drops about every single one. Remember in Humble, he's like, I'm so fucking sick and tired of the Photoshop.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Show me something natural. Yeah, right. That's right. So his whole thing, I think, was that he's BBL bitches. And listen to what he said. And notice I said we, it's not just me. I'm what the culture feeling. So he's basically saying the whole culture feels like this.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And he ain't really wrong. we was in Magic City Saturday looking around like, yo, where the natural? Where the natural's at? But you had all the fake ones in your section, don't take. That's all that was in there.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I should have two fake money. You know, not fake money. No, there was some real ones in there. There was some real ones in there. There was a beautiful sister in there, dark skin, big natural hair, all that. By the way, this isn't BBL shaming. Y'all are BBL shaming.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And I want to say it's not BBO shaming, but I think we're just trying to encourage. other things because BBLs are so prominent and because fake is so prominent. Like, people think that is the new standard of beauty. I think it's confusing other women. Yeah. I get that. That's not the only representation.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And if you think BBL looks stupid in clothes, boy, you got to see it naked. It looked dumber. Okay? It looks dumber. How many more fairy-sale stories about your life until we've had enough? How many more black speeches till you finally feel that you're blacking up. That was great.
Starting point is 00:46:53 That was a really great one because everybody always says Drake chooses a new person for like hood validation. So it would be like, all right, the little baby. You know,
Starting point is 00:47:03 people always say that they say he does that. He tags him with people for the hood crack. But now that's a negative thing. He's the bigger artist. He's giving all these young people a look. I don't think it's a negative thing,
Starting point is 00:47:14 but they're in a war right now, so it's funny. I feel you, because he's trying to turn a good thing into a negative thing. Alice say you love Drake, but I say you love Drake. 21 Savage is a rap superstar right now because of Drake. There's a lot of people out of rap superstars because of Drake. And I thought, I thought Kendrick would have done that for Kodak because of the last album.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And I actually do think Kendrick could have done that for Kodak if Kendrick would have done an album with Kodak instead of Baby King. I like the album. I like the album, I like the album with Baby Kien. But if he would have done something like that with Kodak in that moment, I feel like Kodak that took off the way 21 did, 21 did too. So you're saying Kendrick don't have to touch.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Why are you? Do you hate Kendrick? I don't hate Kendrick. I'm just saying. He's saying, he's saying, that way to touch. Baby Kim is a stop.
Starting point is 00:48:01 21 also has a way lighter. Not that's big 21. 21 doesn't have the same like rap sheet as Kodak. People were on his body off the shirt. I mean, I played Kodak one time somebody came up to me like,
Starting point is 00:48:14 are you serious as a woman? And I was like, really? I can't play Kodak? So I don't know. Only because of that. Yeah, they said, as a woman, I'm like, damn. I love when Kendrick says this.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I mean, Kendra said, I like Drake with the melodies. I don't like Drake when he act up. I've been saying for years, I don't like, I say I don't like when Drake sings. I like when he raps. I've been said, when Drake did that video back in the day, I don't remember what video it was. It was when he had the hoodie on and the headlines, and it looked like they were all like a flash mob
Starting point is 00:48:45 that was going to run up in a store and still every goddamn thing. Like, they just couldn't wait to run up in H&M or something and just take everything off the fucking shelf. Like, that's what, that, I didn't like that either. You're going to make a nigger bring back Puff! Let me see if Chubbs really crash something. That's a reference to when, uh... I don't, yeah, I didn't get that.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Well, Puff allegedly slapped him, me. I'll never forget that night either. You were there? No. Oh. My phone would be ringing. I'm going to tell you something. I can say this without a shadow of a doubt, and this is true.
Starting point is 00:49:16 The industry is behind this. scenes, they've always been against Drake. Like, they've always actively rooted against Drake. Why? I do not know. Probably just because he's from Canada and he's winning. Probably because he's from Canada and you know, he's not...
Starting point is 00:49:32 He's probably because he's not American. I don't know. I don't think that's it. Yo, Drake used to say this in his raps and he used to talk about the industry, plotting him against him. He was not lying. I'm not even going to sit there and tell you no lie. Because whenever stuff like this used to happen to him, my phone would go crazy. And it wouldn't be like regular people. It'd be like
Starting point is 00:49:48 execs and like managers and shit like that like yo yo you would yo yo yo yo did he just slapped the shit out Drake I'm like really and I'll never forget that night so he's not he's not he's not he's not he's not paranoid when he says these things I just feel like why and who would be behind it if the industry is benefiting off of him I listen hate his hate jealousy and envy is a real thing you he says let me see if chubbs really crashed something he said I mean Let me see if Chubb's really about that life, right? Yeah, my first one, first album, Good Kid, Mad City. Like, my last one, Mr. Morale and The Big Step was, it's a classic.
Starting point is 00:50:27 You don't have one. Does that narrative still stand? No, I thought that was cats. Two lies, okay, talk to me. What's the Drake classic? Yeah, what's the classic? Well, the fan favorite is take care of follow by nothing was the same. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And then also, if you want to do rap classic, if you're reading this, it's too late. Yes. Drake got three certified classics. Really? Yes. and Mr. Morale was not a classic. Let's stop that. Mr. Moral was not a class.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Oh my God, Alex. Say you hate Drake. It's a good album. It's a good album. I've told you all. In the future, it's going to be considered that in 4-44 are going to be considered the most important hip-hop albums of our time.
Starting point is 00:51:05 You're not healed yet, Alex. Yeah, you're still going. You're not healed yet. I agree with 4-4-4-4-4-Hill. Look at you, you got on Tims. You got on Tims with bell-bottomed denim jeans. You're not healed yet. I'm comfortable.
Starting point is 00:51:16 You not healed yet. You're not-ha. I'm here. I'm here. I'll say some albums. Healing. Some albums you just got to be ready for. Like I feel like when salanges, the seat at the table first dropped, I wasn't ready for it.
Starting point is 00:51:29 But then there was a point in my life where the album really hit me. And I understand the significance. I would agree with that. I think Mr. Morrell is going to be one of those projects too. So it'll probably age kind of like to Pimp a Butterfly. Absolutely. And even some people still don't like to Pimp a Butterfly. Classic, my favorite Kendrick album.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You know my favorite Drake album? album? Honestly, never mind. Wow. He's lying. Honestly never mind. Honestly, never mind is my favorite Drake album ever. It's number one Drake album. Fantastic. Why are you saying that? I just think it's great. Name three songs you like off the honestly. Never. Hey, my.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Yeah, that's so stupid. I think views. I like views. I love views. I love views. Honestly, you don't even know any songs off the project. No, what? It's a great album.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You all I like that album because nobody else liked it. Let your core audience stomach that and tell me where you get your abs from. Okay, that's the classic joke about Drake having plastic surgery on his abs. V-12, it's a fast one. B-12, bown, bown,
Starting point is 00:52:35 little Keem did that, baby Kim did that. Head shot for the year, you better walk around like dab punk, scroll up, Taylor. Okay, and then it goes into what? Another verse. Oh, another verse. Okay, remember, I love this. This is why, okay, I love this. A, Top Dog, who the fuck they think they're playing with? I love this because I don't know why people thought that Top and Kendrick weren't necessarily fucking with each other. I guess because, you know, neither one of them said anything. Kendrick went and started PG-Lang, whatever, whatever. You don't know the situation. But you got to think, just think that Top Dog and Kendrick's relationship got to be deeper than rap. Right? And just because an artist fulfills his obligation, you know, contractually and goes off to do something else, that don't mean that's still not your people, especially the way y'all all heard Duckworth.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Y'all all know the history between Top and Kendrick Popps and like that, that's got to mean something in a real, real, real way. So you've got to know people like Top Dog ain't going, ain't going to play by Kendrick Labar. When I heard Drake throwing Top's name around that, because let's be for real. You don't be hearing top name in records unless it's somebody from Top Dog saying it.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Negroes don't be just throwing around Top Dog name in any way, shape, or form. So, I mean, that was a good move by Drake doing a record because it makes everybody think like, damn, does Top and Kendrick have beef? But clearly they don't.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Because Top Dog tweeted out something to the extent of, we've seen all y'all niggins. And, you know, we let everybody show their hair. Kendrick is still the king. TDE. Boom. Extortioned my middle name as soon as you jump off that plane, bitch. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yo, why do you say bitch like that? This is what people forget about Los Angeles, California. Yeah. It's Los Angeles, California. Okay. I know the beautiful weather and great weeds. and beautiful women will fool you. But that is one of the most tricky places on planet Earth.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It is a place that should always be motherfucking respected. You don't go to L.A. on no bullshit. And I ain't telling y'all that y'all got to check in and all of that. I'm just telling you when you go to L.A., mind your motherfucking business. Because these Negroes from Watts, the Compton, to Crenshaw, they don't play. Yeah. So he's letting Drake know extortion, my middle name, as soon as you jump off that plane, if I want it to be.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Because who they're playing with, Top Dog? Who they playing with? That's not tough talk. That is, I am a good kid from a mad city, and I know mad niggas. That's not tough talk. That ain't tough talk. That's not. I will call all my cousins.
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's tough talk. I'm just letting you know. It's not tough talk. I'm just letting you know it can happen. I'm allergic to the lame shit. Only you like being famous. Love it. Love it.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Because Kendrick's saying, I'm not Hollywood, bro. I'm not Hollywood. I'm not trying to be Hollywood. It's obvious Kendrick is not trying to be Hollywood. The man don't even be on social media. He drops the album every four to five years. He's not walking down, you know, Rodeo drive. He's not calling paparazzi to take pictures of him and his people.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Like he don't do that. He's walking around New York and fake Jordans, okay? Trying not to be seen. Like, he's not trying to be famous in no way, shape, or form. That's not his thing. Drake, that's your thing. You like that shit. I don't like that lame shit.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Now, Yadi can't give you no swag neither. I don't give a fuck about who you hang with. That's you hanging out with them young boys. You hanging out with people like Yadi, you should be above that at this point. Like that. Like, I can understand, you know, being in. inspired a little bit, but you shouldn't be walking around here looking like little Yadi at all at this stage of your life. And that's no shit.
Starting point is 00:56:44 No shade the Yadi. Yadi does. Yadi is Jadi. Yadi is a 20-something year old kid. Yadi is a 20-something year old kid. Yadi is moving the way a 20-something year old should move. But not a 30 plus year. No.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And I love how after he says that he brings it right back to, I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. You hate that. I mean, I love that. Surprise you wanted that feature request. Oh, Drake, you reached out to me because you wanted me to be on first person shooter. Nah, I'm not doing it because we got some shit to address.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I even hate when you say the word, nigger. But that's just me, I guess. Oh, I got the video. Let me see the video. I need to add this. Let me see this video that you keep talking about. Yes. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:57:27 It just sort of, it bugged me, man. It bugged me because it was like somebody I looked up to at one point. There was somebody that I was like, I used to see out, be like, yo, that's that nigger, you know what I'm saying? He's doing this thing he opened. Yeah, I don't want to see you say nigger no more. And the fact you ain't got no facial hair, you look like you ready to raid the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I'm not even going to lie to him. That shit looked wow. What year was that? That shit looks crazy. This is Twitter. Some shit just cringe-worthy and ain't even got to be deep, I guess. And he's right. It ain't that deep.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Even though I've said on record, all bi-racial should only say nigg. You can't say nigger. You can't say nigg-a. Just nigg. That's it. You're half black. Keep it at nigg. Still love when you see success.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Everything with me is blessed. Kendrick means none of this. This is me when I say I'm praying for people and I don't even really mean it. I wish you the best. Still, I love you when you see success. Everything with me is blessed. I love this part. Keep making me dance waving my hand and it won't be no threat.
Starting point is 00:58:25 He's basically telling Drake, this is what you're good for. Tap dancing? No, you're good for just making people dance, which is great. Cool. But you're not giving nobody anything. deep. Nah, this one, it gets really crazy. I know when they call you the boy, but where is a man? Because I ain't seen him yet. Matter of fact, I ain't even bleed him yet. Can I bleed him? See, that one line sets up how I'm about to cut you even deeper. Okay? Yeah, you call yourself the boy,
Starting point is 00:58:50 but where's the man? You ain't grown as a, you ain't grown as an artist, Drake. You ain't grown as a man. You're still out here doing little boy shit. You still got the fucking barrettes in your hair. The barrette's killing me. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, you, like, what is you out? I'm sorry, Alice, the nail polish. The nail polish. You know what I mean? Why can't they just do that?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Why don't be a bad bitch so bad? But why are you so concerned with what other people are doing? Like, are you serious? Yeah. I'm just not into it. I just think this different. Why are you looking at Alex? I think it's just different, different things for different people.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Women, you know what, back in the day, guys, and I asked my eyebrows at one point in my life. No. of my life when I was younger. They're fucking, fuck, fuck out of hair. You didn't know that. You know why I arched my eyebrows? Because the woman told you to. Nina and Shamara.
Starting point is 00:59:44 We used to work together. Sulupta Nina and Shamara, love y'all for life. We was working at Paragon Solutions in Goose Creek, South Carolina. And they told me that I had amazing eyebrows, which I do, as you can see. Okay? They said, you got amazing eyebrows. They like Tupac. You should arch him.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I said, really? Tupac arches his eyebrows. I ain't know what the arts was, right? Go to the barber shop, yo, arched my eyebrows. Bobbed looks me crazy. I got your eyebrows. Like, yeah, I want to watch my eyebrows? Watch your eyebrows?
Starting point is 01:00:11 He's like, all right. So you watch my eyebrows. They mad, thin and shit, looking crazy as fuck. Yes. Crazy. We didn't never see the picture? No. Oh, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:20 There was a G-Unit mixtape that came out, and the G-Uon mix tape was like, the next nigger we see out here with arched eyebrows. He's smacking the shit out of them. So I had some homies that used to call my phone. and just play that. And just hang up. They would call my phone and just play that
Starting point is 01:00:40 that clip from the Juni mixtape and hang up. My point was saying all of that, Alex. Why is that up there? Hold on, so if you Google that, that comes up to it? Oh, what is it? Damn. Who posted that? Great, back out, who posted that?
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yeah, you was a bad fish, y'allel. That's crazy. Bad behavior. If I was getting this in the disc record, that is the one. That is the one. McDonald's eyebrows, arch-ass niggas, golden arch-ass face,
Starting point is 01:01:09 nigga. God. Would this at your prom? Look at the headline, though. Hairline was dead. I had the headline. Were you at prom? Yeah, that was a prom.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah, that was a prom. Yeah, why you talk about your hairline? Your men in their hairline is hilarious. The reason I bought that up, Alex, is because you have two women in the room who are looking at you, and they're all thinking about 90s gay slurs. So what I'm trying to tell you is,
Starting point is 01:01:30 we used to do things for the women. I did it for the, I asked my eyebrows, because some women told me a little good. And then when I had them arch, girls would be like, oh, your arch is nice. You got a nice arch, right? Why do you have your nails pain?
Starting point is 01:01:43 My fiance does nails as a hobby. No, she wants you to get them? No, I swear to God. It was actually her idea. Really? Yeah. Because now is something we do together. Go like this.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And it's something. I got, call. She's testing you, yo. That's like she testing you. That's like when a. Such. No, man, that's like when you. That's like when you and a girl fucking,
Starting point is 01:02:04 and I like it. No, that's like when you and a girl fucking and she's going to put her finger in your ass. No. She wants to see if you flinched her that. Yeah, this is. Homophobia. If you just take it, she's like, damn, I got one of them.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Well, I think like. But I just like what I like. And why can't people just be secure with liking what you like? I'm with you. I think you're just a little more on the creative side. I chopped that up to that. But I'm gonna say you want to be a bad bitch. Damn.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I'm with you. Okay. But that's all of you. reasons I'm saying that, you know, he shouldn't be trying to be like a little yottie. Now, he says, should I bleed him yet? When I see you stand by sexy red, I believe you see two bad bitches. That shit is hilarious. That was funny.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I believe you don't like women. It's real competition. You might pop ass with them. Now, let's dissect this line a little bit. Bend that ass over. Let that put you free. What do y'all hear as women when y'all hear that line? I believe you don't like women.
Starting point is 01:03:00 It's real competition. You might pop ass with them. Yeah, I didn't get that. Oh, I thought he was saying that he'd be like been that ass with Drake, not been that ass for me. That's one. I think that he saw the Justin Richburg meet. Remember when Justin Richburg did the meme where he had Drake come knock six or sexy red, I started popping his ass?
Starting point is 01:03:16 But also, this reminds me of a line. I've heard a lot of women tell me over the years that there's a lot of men who like pussy but don't like women. Yeah. They like pussy but don't like women, meaning they like having sex and they like fucking, but they don't actually have a respect for women. Wow. You know what I mean? Like, that's what I feel like he was saying with this line because, you know, there's always been the rumors, you know, not rumors, but there's been a think piece that's written about Drake's misogyny and yada, yada, yada, and they talk about how he, you know, I don't want, I don't know if I would say attacks, but he'll put certain women on blast in their records.
Starting point is 01:03:52 So this is what Kendrick is saying. He ain't the only one who've been doing that. I agree. Him and his little text, he ain't evil twin that they no longer friends. He does the same thing. Who you talking about? Future. The goat.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Yeah, he's a goat, but he does it. Drake's a goat too, who does it? He is. It's a maturity thing. I think Drake likes women, though. I don't know. I'm just saying that's what I get from this line. They're saying, like, he doesn't like women in a sense of respect.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I know, I know, but I don't really feel like that. I will say, though. He stands by sexy red and sees two bad bitches. What's wrong with that? Exactly. Exactly me. You want to be a bad bitch. I'm joking.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I was a joke. I think we have to accept that zestiness is in now. It's not in. Why, I got to be vestiness. Because it is. What, what if I respect the confidence? No, no, no, he got the barrettes. He got the fingernail.
Starting point is 01:04:41 He got the whole pack in the bad bitch. Yasfio, N.L.E. Chapa, his little dance that he's doing now. El-Lie Chapp is not painting his nails. I see it. I'm just talking about the peck. He got the abs, the eyebrows, the nose job apparently. Nose job? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:56 He got a nose job. Damn. Yeah. Now you're shaking ass with sexy red. Then you got the nail polish. Like, he got all. of the, and there's a clip about there where he's like...
Starting point is 01:05:06 So if you're trying to be a woman, why would you not like women? I thought he was just trying to call him gay. I think that's too, but that's, you know, I don't, I don't... He don't give gay. He don't give gay. He don't give gay.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I don't know what gives gay anymore. You're right. I don't even know, I don't think gay gives gay anymore. You're right. Gay don't even give gay. What is gay? And I don't know what that is anymore. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Let's speak on percentage. Show me a spanish. I'll make sure I double back with you. Now, all of this he got from Pusher. You were signed to a nigga that signed to a nigga that said he was signed to that nigga. Y'all don't remember the Exodus, whatever record? That was funny. Like, a lot of this whole shit is inspired and repurposed things that Pusher T has already said.
Starting point is 01:05:51 The whole white angle, to me, that's what Ross has been saying the past month. Kendrick is just such a skilled MC. He's such a skilled artist that he's just presenting it in a different way. messenger matters. When Ross did it, it sounded racist, though, because he was like white boy. He was like gaslighting him. Where when Kendrick said it, it was like, you know what? I don't like you do this. Like it's less racist. It's a culture thing. It actually hits harder the way Kendrick does it because he's for the culture. Well, we're also for the culture too, but you just like just calling somebody a white boy, it's like, eh, but when you buy racial
Starting point is 01:06:30 And it's a person trying to play both sides. It's kind of like the incredible Hulk. Like that incredible cracker comes out to you sometimes. You know what I mean? Even though you're trying to be black and you're trying to be of the culture, that incredible cracker just r- That ER slips out.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yeah, like when he came at Ross and he told Ross, he said he told his mom, talking about he's being racist. That's the incredible cracker coming out of you. You know what I mean? Or like sending the cease and desist for like that. I don't know if I believe that, but we're getting to that right now.
Starting point is 01:06:58 No, they showed the... Really? Yeah. Why would he send us? Okay, that's the next line. You try cease and desist on the like-that record. Hold what, you ain't like that record? Back-to-back, I like that record.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I'm going to get back to that for the record, meaning that he's going to go deeper on the cease and desist, which I would like to hear, because I want to know why would Drake send a cease and desist about like that. There wasn't nothing even crazy on that. Antoinette's subject regarding radio, future metro, Hey, Becker.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Per our conversation last week, we are not granting radio rights for like that. Epic does not have the right to release this song at radio. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. That don't even make no sense. Like, that was number one for three weeks in a row. That shit plays on the radio all the time. And they all on the same label.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Drake ain't on Epic? No, not Epic, but it's all owned by... Universal? Yeah. That don't make no sense to me. I don't believe that. Why would I call around trying to get dirt on niggas? Y'all think my life is rap.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I love this. Because, you know, that's what they've been saying. They say Drake has been calling around trying to get dirt on Kendrick. because once again, Kendrick is a flawless MC. Like, there's not much you can say about Kendrick. You have to have things to say. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:08:06 So he's calling around trying to get dirt on Kendrick. I don't know if that's true, but that's what Kendrick is saying. Y'all think all my life is rap? No, we don't, Kendrick, because you take five years in between albums. So we know you're a living life and you're not spending all your time rapping. That's whole shit. I got a thunder raise, but I can see you don't know nothing about that. Waking them up.
Starting point is 01:08:25 No nothing about that. then tell them to pray, know nothing about that, then giving them tools to walk through life like day by day, know nothing about that, teaching them morals, integrity, discipline. Listen, man, you don't know nothing about that. Speaking the truth and consider what God's considering. You don't know nothing about that. Listen to what this man just said.
Starting point is 01:08:46 This man said, Drake don't believe in God, okay? He said, Drake don't believe in God. If you ain't telling your son to pray, that I mean you ain't praying yourself. He said you're not giving them the tools to walk through life day by day. Because you don't even have the tools to walk through life day by day. You haven't been doing none of the work, Drake, which I don't believe because I've heard Drake talk about going to therapy before. I don't know if he goes a lot, but I've heard him talk about going.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Then he says teaching them morals, integrity, discipline. You don't know nothing about that? You can't teach your son what you don't know, speaking the truth and consider what God's considering. When the last time you sat down and thought about what God is considering? I wake up every day of my life and consider. what God is considering. I'm not even joking.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Every day, I pray for God to guide me every single day. I think about what God is considering all the time. God can not bless what you pretend to be. You should be a part-time preacher. You still act like the way you do is crazy. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:09:47 You should be a part-time teacher. I don't act like the way I do. I used to act the way I do. You know that? You'd be a part-time preacher. You had that voice. I don't know what God's taking me. You don't know what God's taking me.
Starting point is 01:09:58 You don't know what God's how you say God. It's how he said God. Say it again. Ain't 20 V1. It's 1 v.20. Love this line too. If I got to smack niggas that right with you. Ain't no 20 versus 1, Drake.
Starting point is 01:10:09 It's the 1 versus 20 because you got a whole writing team. Bring them out too. I'll clean them out too. Tell Beam that he better stay right with you. Beam is allegedly one of Drake's writers, producers. I don't fucking know. Am I battling ghost their AI? Nigger feeling like Joel Osteen.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I ain't like that. You could have used the black. You could have said you're feeling like Sarah Jake's Roberts, Hendrick. You could have said you're feeling like Bishop T.D. Jake. You could have said you feeling like Torre Roberts. Click on that line. Let me see what the genius says. Yeah, but maybe he was actually in a film called AI. Kendrick responded Drake's April 2024 disc track, Taylor Made Freestone, which he used AI.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Okay, we know that. Kendrick mocked Drake's use of this technology and his disc track going on to ask if he's battling either ghost or robots. Kendrick's implying that when rap battling Drake, he's either coming up and then, okay, okay. Kendrick then appears to rap Joel Olstein, likely because he is focusing on the rhyme scheme of Austin, off him. However, he is actually referring to both Joel Osteen and Holly Joel Osmit. This may be deliberate. Who the fucking Holly Joel Osmond playing on an idea that he does not know who he is battling?
Starting point is 01:11:17 Joel Osteen is a famous pastor from Houston, Texas. Joel has famously been impersonated multiple times, including by AI. And he has also been accused of using a ghost rider. Really? He's an American actor, Joe. Holly O. Osmond is an American actor who starred in the 2001 film AI in 1999 to 6th Sense. Oh. So that's why the next line he goes,
Starting point is 01:11:37 go back to it, Taylor? The next line, he goes, funny, he was in a film called AI. Oh, and my 6th Sense telling me to off him. Holy shit. God damn, Kendrick, you good. Wow. Huh? That's a reach.
Starting point is 01:11:53 That is not a reeks. He says Joel Osteen, but it's Joel Osment that was in the movie AI. Yeah, but he just said that they get confused. So why would he reference the two movies that the guy stars in it? That's what I think he might have just got the wrong person. Wow. I'm a blick niggas all in their coffin. Yeah, O-V-O-O-V-ho niggas.
Starting point is 01:12:13 O-V-Ho-Nigas is dickriders. Yeah. O-B-Hoe is crazy. Yo, y'all be juicing. O-B-O-B-O is crazy. O-V-Haw is crazy. You're O'Bee-ho, Al. Obie-ho is crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Tell them run to America. They imitate heritage. They can't imitate this violence. Oh, my favorite part's telling. What do you do, Taylor? Go to scroll up. Go down, Taylor. Down, down, down, down.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah, I like this too, though, because they run to America, but they can't imitate this heritage. So, like, yes, Canada don't have the American culture that we do, so they are imitating American hip-hop culture in a lot of ways. What I learned is niggas don't like the West Coast and I'm fine with it. I'll push the line with it. Pick a nigger off one at a time
Starting point is 01:12:57 with it. We can be on a three-hour time difference. I don't believe people don't like the West Coast Kendrick. But I think that a lot of people from the West Coast, because all my homies from the West Coast, I think they say this to themselves just to keep an edge. You know, in the 48 law of power, said if you don't have no enemies, create them, all my West Coast homies, DJ head, Glasses Malone, Letty Martinez. They all feel like don't nobody fuck with the West Coast. And West Coast, which is so not true. You know that's not true. That's why everybody moves
Starting point is 01:13:29 to L.A. They love L.A. We love West Coast music. We grew up off death row. We love TDE.E. We love Ice Cube. We love Friday. We love Minnesota Society. We love Boy in Hood. We love Rochols. We love the West Coast. Cut it out.
Starting point is 01:13:47 But they have to say that to themselves because it gives them a Ed. Taylor, put it back in things. I can read it. It's right here. I can't see it. Okay, there it goes. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Don't speak on the family, Crody. You deep into family, Crotie. Talk about me and my family, Crotie. Someone going to bleed in your family, Crotie. I be at New Hope King eating fried rice with a dip sauce and a blammy crotie. Telling me your chees and fan, we can do this right now on the camera, Crotie. New Hope. What is a crotie?
Starting point is 01:14:16 That's slang for bro. Yeah. Oh, Canadian slang. Brody, but they change it to C for Crip. But it's Canadian slain. Slang slash L.A. Slank. And then also the New Ho King part is a Chinese restaurant that Drake got, according to Twitter, that Drake got robbed at.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Really? Yeah, by a local. Let me find it. Oh, work? Yeah. See, this shit is better than Marvel movies, man. Like, this shit. No, from the Easter eggs in this shit is crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:47 But there's a lot of filler lines, though. Yeah, right here. I don't think they're filler. I think we just have to figure out. We got dissect them. I don't think there's no bar that doesn't mean something. No, I believe that. So this is on Reddit.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Kendrick Kumar just deeper. We know Kendrick Fra. Hold on. Nooh King is a Chinese restaurant on Spadina Avenue in Toronto. New York King is also a Toronto rapper named Sizzlack. Films his last music video before being shot and killed. Oh, shit. Sizlat got shot and killed days after dropping a disc record title,
Starting point is 01:15:24 Realist in the Six. In the music video for the record, he's at New Hokein. Sizlake is also rumored to be one of the people that robbed Drake at gunpoint in 2009. Brick got robbed in 2009 by two people at gunpoint, and it's been rumored for a long time that one of them was Siss Black. Also, supposedly, Drake was going to file a police report, but did it because it would affect his rap career being labeled as a snitch. Remember, Kendrick said, I know some shit about niggas that make Gunna want to look like a saint.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Damn. Oh. I mean, how's that at this? Basically, implying that. I mean, I like the whole angle. The trade got his get back. I don't know about that. I like the angle of that.
Starting point is 01:16:04 That's where he got robbed. I'm, be honest with you, I tune out when y'all start talking murder. I ain't got nothing to do it that shit. Hey, you can make it turn it back thing, Taylor? I'm just saying. Go back. Okay, so let's get where we at. Where we at with it?
Starting point is 01:16:15 Where we had with it? Scroll up. Up, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down. I loved that. I didn't know that Crote was a, I didn't know, I knew Brody. I didn't even catch.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I wasn't even paying that shit no attention, but I like that. Tell me your cheeshing fan. We can do this right now on the camera. Okay, I wave one finger and thump y'all niggas like, um, feel go punt y'all niggas. They punk y'all niggas.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Nobody never took my food. Oh. Okay. I see what he's saying. He's going back to say nobody ever robbed me. Whoever that's fucking with him, fuck you niggas and fuck the industry too. If you take it there,
Starting point is 01:16:51 I'm taking it further. That's something you don't want to do. And that, my friends, was Euphoria. A TV show, executive produced by Drake on HBO. Ooh, we don't want to hear you say nigger no more. We don't want to hear you say nigger no more. Stop. No more.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I like how he ended up with stop. Where are we as far as who's up right now? Are you guys counting the AI track or no? Yes, I am counting the AI track. Well, it got taken down. I'm still counting the AI track. can you still put it out I think it was a moment
Starting point is 01:17:27 when I listened back to both records push-up hits harder to me than the AI It does Thank you so for me I thought y'all. I thought y'all's called Kat. No, no, it does. Oh, okay. For me, because
Starting point is 01:17:37 the AI record got taken down I feel like it kind of gave like a blemish on the scoreboard. So I would say and then how are we doing the rating? Is it record versus record who has a better record or is it we just giving points for one that we just fight?
Starting point is 01:17:51 I think you should just go off energy, how you feel? Like, and we got enough music out there now, right? We got, I think you should count like that. I mean, uh, now I'm not going to, only reason I'm not going to count like, like, this is why I'm not going to count like that. Like that was the last time that both of them shot at each other on a record. Now, all before it was a lot of subliminals, even though they were like some blatant blatant subliminals, there was a lot of subliminals, but like that was more so like, nah, fuck a big three. It's just big me who wants smoke. Jay Cole thought he wanted some smoke. He's like, nah, I ain't built for this.
Starting point is 01:18:24 You know what I mean? I'm not mad at it. His white side told him, let's get out of here. Oh my gosh. His white side said, let's get out of here, Jermaine. No, his hillside, Mr. Therapy. His white side said, Germain, please get out the car.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Exactly. His white side said, Germain, please get out the car. Anyway. Don't let your man. Anyway. Please don't ride with Chums and Aubrey, Jermaine. I respect it.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I love it. I'm glad to you. He did that. I'm not making jokes. I'm making jokes, but I feel like if your heart's not in something and you, you should listen to your spirit, I respect that whole heart of it. So I'm not going to count like that. I'll go for it.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Push up is the. No, no, you have to count like that. Are you kidding me? That's the, that's the start. That's the big joker. You're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:19:10 You got to count like that. But he doesn't say their name. So technically those are subliminals. Not really. But the big, nigger is just big. Yeah. For all my dogs getting buried and all that shit. Like, it was too blatant.
Starting point is 01:19:21 It was too blatant. And Drake knew that was about him. And this what I like- We all knew it was about him. This is what I still love about push-up. Drake cast a wide net. Yeah. And that's what's going to be so interesting
Starting point is 01:19:33 about the next record Drake drops. Because it's not going to be a wide net. It's going to be targeted. And we've seen Drake's records targeted. Back-to-back was a targeted record. This was for you, Meek. And nobody else. Push-up was a targeted record.
Starting point is 01:19:48 But he aimed at five different people. He gave it the future. He gave it to Metro. He gave it to Ross. He gave it to the weekend, the weekend's manager, and he gave it to Kendrick. So it wasn't targeted, right? So he gave him that. Then he gave him the AI joint.
Starting point is 01:20:03 That was targeted. Kendrick, where are you at? I want, you know who I want. Kendrick, like, okay. Now, Drake, you're going to get this targeted record. Now I'm at you. I'm at your head with Euphoria. So Drake's next record is going to be targeted specifically to Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Who's up right now? I'm glad we're here. I have Drake slightly up. I feel push-up was better. I don't like that you guys are included like that, but if you're going to include, like, it's a feature. It's not even his song. That's what makes it so great.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I know, because look how he hopped out. Even to this euphoria record, all this shit he's saying is all narrative that we all already heard. But the whole point is saying to Drake is, yo, we just don't appreciate you pretending to be like that if you're not really like that. Like this record even leads back to like that. Yeah, but I mean like if you're counting like that as a disc record,
Starting point is 01:20:59 then this should have been the targeted one. This should have been the one where he's revealing and talking. Don't keep beating. This is a targeted one though. Yeah, but he keeps baiting. Oh, don't make me really have to say my stuff. Nah, you should have really set it in this one. Drake's doing the same thing, though.
Starting point is 01:21:11 No, I'm with Alex. Like, here's the thing. And I had to, I had the temper of my expectations of euphoria. And the reason I had the temper of my expectations of euphoria is because I was expecting Kendrick to come with a nuke. When I, when I looking at it through hip-hop history lens, to me, push-up was takeover. And I thought Kendrick was going to come with an ether. Like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:21:33 And don't get me wrong, Jay responded twice back to ether. None of them could fuck with ether. Super ugly couldn't fuck with ether. And even though Bluefront 2 was a great record, that really couldn't fuck with ether. So I was expecting Kendrick to George Bush the button, baby. Like, hey, well, no, Donald J. Trump, the button. Because you know Trump is going to let it fly when he gets back in if he gets back in. But I had the temper by expectations to say, oh, he's not going for the nuke right now.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Drake did a couple of well-calculated drone strikes. And so now Kendrick is coming back doing some well-calculated drone strikes as well. I think it was good. I think it's good, too. I don't have any, objectively. And listen, you can't have these conversations if you're too much of a Drake stand. And you can't have these conversations to be too much of a Kendrick saying.
Starting point is 01:22:22 That's why being Team Dreamville over here is such a great thing. Is it, though? Because we're unbiased. I'm just objective. But I think this is foreplay right now. Like, we ain't. No, I think we're a little past foreplay.
Starting point is 01:22:34 This is, you, we're a little bad for play. Brothers, they're trying to control their nut right now. But this is not, this is not. They're in it. But this isn't it. Like, this isn't it. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:22:46 That's what I heard euphoria. That's how I felt. I'm like, Like we marching, we're on the field We're on the field And we're about to see eye The game is on The score might even be
Starting point is 01:22:56 The score might be 00 The score might even be 7-7 right now 7-7 It's 7-7 but it's still like First quarter, second quarter Like you're looking at it Because it's like 10 7 I think Drake's up a field goal
Starting point is 01:23:09 Nick, no Drake's up a field No he got he got deduction because of the song Getting taken down No, no that's not a deduction I think I'm kind of what I was Super clever of to use the AI, like, the angle,
Starting point is 01:23:23 the Pock and Snoop, that's a dope-ass angle. Everybody's shitting on that, that's crazy. I'll say Drake is up 10-3. No, maybe even 13-7, and I'll tell you why. Let's just say, like that was a touchdown. It's first quarter, right? Like that was a touchdown, right? Or maybe you would keep even say a field goal,
Starting point is 01:23:45 but I'll say like that with a touchdown. It's a future. Did you all listen to the AI record since? I did. No. But like that was a touchdown, right? So now you're like, damn, Drake ain't score yet.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Drake ain't score yet. Drake ain't score yet. But he comes out with push-up. Like, oh, shit. By the way, push-up is not really moving the needle either. We like the record, but. Nah, push-up. You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:08 You got white boys. I thought you're non-bodies. You got white boys yelling at Metro. You got white boys yelling at Metro. Cut your whole ass like that. Oh, no, you're right. That part is. But when you play or when I play records, push up, sure, nobody's really singing along or rapping along to anything but that metro part.
Starting point is 01:24:25 When Like That comes on, it's the whole part. Like that is a better record. It's futures ad lives. It's Kendrick's part. Like the whole record is. And like that was number one three weeks in a row. As I said, like that is a touchdown. But then pushup comes, right?
Starting point is 01:24:39 And it's like, oh shit. And it's not a touchdown. So it's not the same point. You don't think it's a touchdown? Pushup. It's not a hit. It's not. It's not a hit.
Starting point is 01:24:46 It's not. a hit record. It don't got to be a hit, but it's a hit record. But it's not his record. That's not, but it's not push up as a dope record. It's not on the even. I'm not saying it's not a dope record. I'm saying, what is it in basketball? You get a regular point. That's two points. Let's take the hit. And then you get a three. Let's take that. That record is a three. Like that is a three. No, like that's a touchdown. The reason I say like that's a touchdown because let's take the charts off of it. Just lyrically, what he did on that
Starting point is 01:25:13 record, taking on five different rappers, it's a dope-ass record. I was highly impressed by Like that when I heard like that. Like that versus push-ups, the Which One Went? I think that'll be round one. Yeah, that's round one. Which one? That's why I said, I give Drake. I mean, I give Kendrick
Starting point is 01:25:29 7, and I give Drake 7. All right. And then I give Drake three more. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I feel like the AI record was a field goal. So it's AI versus Euphoria, which one won? No, I don't count AI versus Euphoria. I count everything Drake has done, does
Starting point is 01:25:43 far versus euphoria and like that. Is record the record? No, that's not the way this works. We're measuring bodies of work because like that is a feature that you got to factor into this. Yeah, I got to factor out. You got a factor like that into this. Then you factor in the push-up record.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Then you got to factor in the AI record. I like the AI record. The reason I like the AI record because, number one, I thought Drake was going to come back with something. But the fact he was putting pressure on Kendrick, like Kendrick, you on the clock. And I still think it was creative to do the Tupac and the Snoop. dog shit. But Euphoria is six minutes long.
Starting point is 01:26:16 So, kind of Kendrick is giving you, he's barring up all that shit. I'm giving you enough for all that shit. I'm giving you enough for push-ups and Taylor-M-A. But there's a lot of-round two. But there's a lot of-filler. No, I don't think it's filler.
Starting point is 01:26:30 You're being biased, Alex. Not a lot of filth. I don't, and by the way, we're not, I'm not even looking at this as boxing. I'm looking at this as football. I think we're in, we're still in the second quarter.
Starting point is 01:26:41 I can almost say we're in the halftime right now. And the score right now to me is 10. No, the score right now to me might be 14.10. 1410. Yeah. That makes sense. I think it's bad. 1410, who, though?
Starting point is 01:26:59 I say, Drake. You could even say 1310. Maybe they missed the field goal. Why they missed the field? Because they got, if you want to take a little bit off the AI track since a guy taking off, no. I did think it was straight. 1310 Drake.
Starting point is 01:27:14 1310. And then Bigger up to come back. Again this week. You can't give it. This is a touchdown. You four is a touchdown. If you four years a touchdown and like that as a touchdown, then it's 14. You cannot get a feature a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Well, why not, though? You got to. The song was already going to be a hit before Kendrick was on it. That song is fire. I'm not mad at that. No, no, no, I got to be honest with you. What? I wasn't going to be listening to Future's album until someone told me Kendra's
Starting point is 01:27:41 Yeah. I mean, that's just that group. That brought mad eyeballs and ears to that project. And look at the movement with it. Look how many people jumped out the window with that? Do you think that Rick Ross and everything else and everyone else would have jumped out if Kendrick didn't start it? God bless all of them, brothers. I'm not thinking about nothing.
Starting point is 01:28:00 I'm just saying, though, but I'm just saying the movement of what like that did with Drake, with Drake. Yeah, I mean, Kendrick, you're saying, Kendrick. Like that. Kendrick would like that has given hip hop one of its most exciting summers in a long time. It's going to be a very exciting summer. And I'm telling you right now, Aubrey Graham is, I'm not even putting Drake on the clock because I know Drake responded. Very, you start this week. That's the fun thing about it.
Starting point is 01:28:24 You know he's here for the game. Listen, you, y'all can say whatever you all want about that half a nigger. But that, that person right there, that person right there rises to every challenge. He does. When lose a draw, he didn't play with me, you know, he didn't play with pushing T and Kanye when he came out with Duffy, even though I feel like he lost that. he ain't playing with Kendrick. He ain't playing with Metro. He ain't playing with Future.
Starting point is 01:28:49 He didn't play with Ross. He has risen to every challenge. Now, we can have all these conversations about him having Ghost Riders and him being from Canada and him not being from culture. That boy would be moving like an MC. He moved like an MC
Starting point is 01:29:03 who ain't backing down from no lyrical challenge. I respect it. I really, really do. He's going to use this in this time. I really do. So I stand on what I said a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I feel like his next move is going to be, it might even be twofold. He might give us something just for the streets or he might just go ahead and give us this, this radio record. Like it's going to be a Drake record. You know, Drake makes hits. Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:29 I think it's going to be like a hit that we get and it's going to be a diss as well. That's what I feel. A back to back. Yes, that's what I feel. Even a push-up felt like a back-to-back, but I think he's going to really give us one. like a back to back.
Starting point is 01:29:46 We are not in the club. Back to back. We're not bringing off in the clubs in the real way. We're not bringing off to push up in the club. I'm not saying it doesn't have the same effect. I'm not saying it's a bad run. No, I'm with you. I'm not saying it's no point.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Okay, yeah. Like, drinking sexy record pop ass to back back. Like you had that beat. You know what I give you that? But that's an amazing. It's amazing. This record. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:06 But I'm happy this is happening, y'all. That's the moral of the story. I feel like I can't believe you're saying Drake is in the lead right now. I don't think I said that. Yes, you did. You said 1410. No, I'm just trying to factor the scores. But that ain't accurate, so I need you to fix that before we move on.
Starting point is 01:30:22 I'm not good with the score thing. I'm not good with the score thing, but what I will say, what I will say, if you're objective, if you're not a Kendrick stand, if you're not a Drake stand, you can appreciate what they both have done thus far. For sure. That's why I said to see the tied. Maybe boxing is the right analogy. Maybe they're even on the score card right now.
Starting point is 01:30:41 That's what I got them even on the score card right now. now. And if I had to give the lead, I can't give the lead to nobody. And if you get the lead, it's Kendrick because of like that. He has a hit record already. I would give him the lead just slightly. Is that what matters though? Like, like, let's push up and euphoria. I think push up better. Because of the beat, though. You don't think there's a better song. He came. Not better lyric. I can't. I don't know. I had a lyric. Not better lyric. But he came with angles that we were surprised about. Like, Kendrick.
Starting point is 01:31:14 ain't saying nothing new. I think they both have their nuances that makes it win. Like for Drake with push-ups, it's the way he attacked everybody. You know what I'm saying? But for Kendrick, his dope nuance with this was how he worded the narrative that we already know. Yeah, Kendrick didn't use any new subject matter,
Starting point is 01:31:33 but it is a new angle. So he took six minutes and 30 seconds to not give us nothing new. But it's a psychological analysis of a human. You're being too biased, Alex. The Canadian accent was crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:44 comment with sexy hilarious because everybody's like, you know, what's going on? And he's coming to his manhood, his fatherhood, all that. You won't grow up. That's what he's telling me. That's what he's saying. And then, and then. That's right.
Starting point is 01:31:55 You're a boy, but I ain't see the man yet. And then Drake is just coming to his size. That's it. And he played off that. I'll beat up your feet. And most importantly, the most important thing to come out of this, you buy ratios can't say nigger no more. You light skin people.
Starting point is 01:32:12 And that's why you're being biased. Can't say nigger no more. Because you're biracial. I'm Afro-Latino and black. Now you want to say stop. You can't do that. If Kendrick wife is black or black. If you refer to yourself as actual anything.
Starting point is 01:32:27 You're already exactly. You can't say nigger no more. Black and Afro-Latino. You can't say nigger no more. You can say Nick? Okay, so Kendrick wife can't say it. Say Nick Poppy or something. Like Nick, Nick Poppy or something.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Like something like that. But you can't say you can say nits. By the way, none of us should be saying. By the way, they say Negro. Who? The fans people, they say Negro. Okay. Negro.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Well, I can't wait to see what happens next. Let's play some bills, Taylor. Salute to Chime. Chime, thank you for supporting the brilliant idiots and sponsoring today's episode. When you find new ways to save, you can reach your financial goals easier and still have the occasional treat. With a chime checking account, you get features like fee-free overdraft up to $200 with SpotMe or get paid up to two days early with direct deposit, okay? Join millions of Chime members who are working on financial. financial progress. Chime has no monthly fees or maintenance fees. And with Chime, you can get access
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Starting point is 01:34:27 So, live band, D.C., I think it's going to be a vibe. Yeah, and then also podcasts, we need to talk. We drop three episodes a week, two interviews, and then one full length, kind of like this one, debating. So definitely tap in. So we need to talk. And, yeah. vibe hour every Sunday night on Power 105.
Starting point is 01:34:46 If you guys tune in, hear me spend new artists. And ain't you doing something in Vegas this weekend? Oh, yeah. But, I mean, I'm going to Vegas for lovers and friends. Okay. My church announcements, once again, thank you to everybody who came to the Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta. Can't wait to do it again next year.
Starting point is 01:35:06 But my new book, Get Honest or Dialying, Why Small Talks Stuffs, so I thought I had a copy on me, but I don't. I got Sarah Jake Roberts books with me, who I'm loving. It's called Power Move and Nights Your Confidence and Become a Force. She's not on Black Pribilist Publishing. I just love Sarah Jake's Roberts, and I love this book. I think y'all should read it. But my new book, Getting Honest to Die Lying, who is another good one?
Starting point is 01:35:28 My Quiet Time with God. This is Pretty V's mother, Pastor G. Yori Gibson. There's 30 daily devotionals to jumpstart your day. This is available wherever you buy books right now. Love Pastor G, man. That's Pretty V's mom. Pretty v hosted the Black Effect Podcast Festival.
Starting point is 01:35:44 But my new book comes out, April, no, May 21st, get honest a dialine, why small talk sucks. I hate small talk. I don't like, you know, people who just try to make, you know, small chit chat with you, but also I hate, you know, micro conversations, you know what I mean? I feel like, you know, we make a lot of micros, macros nowadays. So this book is just essentially giving you something bigger to talk about. You know what I mean? I feel like we talk too small.
Starting point is 01:36:09 We think too small nowadays. So this book is literally giving you a bunch of bigger things, you know, to discuss. I got some of my favorite big talkers in the book, like my man Elliot Connie, who's a psychotherapist. I got him, you know, in a chapter with me. And my man, Aaron Magruder, you know, somebody who, man, he just wanted the most brilliant people I've ever met in my life. You know, we share a lot of big ideas quite often, man. Like, every time I talk to that dude, I get inspired, like to just spark something. So he's in there for a chapter as well.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Yes, Aaron McGrewd, who created the Boondocks. So make sure you go pick that up. It's available for free order right now. Everywhere you buy books in stores, May 21st, and go to why smalltalks sucks.com right now to not just pre-order, but you can go see which city I'm going to be in. Because I'm hitting like 11 or 12 cities starting the first week in May. So I'll be in New York.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I'll be in Jersey. I'll be in Philly. I'll be in, you know, Atlanta. I'll be in Maryland. and I'll be in Vegas, I'll be in LA. Outside. Yeah, I'm outside for a couple of weeks. Uncle's outside. I like this.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Yeah, I'm outside for a couple of weeks. I met you when your first book dropped. That's when you met me? That's when I like got to know you. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, but why small talk sucks.com. Go there. You know, I'm coming to Charleston.
Starting point is 01:37:30 I'm in Charleston, South Carolina as well. So just go to why smalltalks sucks.com. You know, see if I'm in your city, get tickets. and we'll see you at these bookstores. Taylor, let's do some asking idiots because we've been here too long. Can I give a quick? It's not really interesting.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Of course, Chris. I wanted to give a shout-out slash RIP to Dallas Penn. Oh, man. Who passed away, unfortunately, last night when we were recording today this week. We were talking a lot about kind of the beginning of podcasting
Starting point is 01:38:01 at the top of the show in Dallas. He's probably best known as the co-host of the Combat Jack show, but really one of the innovators of the space, one of the pioneers of the space, saw a lot of things, a lot of the possibilities before virtually anybody else. There literally wouldn't be a combat jack show without Dallas. And without a combat jack show, I'd argue a lot of what we enjoy right now wouldn't be where it's at either. And also Dallas, really like a true New York original, the type of which
Starting point is 01:38:36 there aren't or don't seem to be quite as many of anymore. So big loss, anyone who's listening was a fan of Dallas or, you know, those shows just wanted to acknowledge him. How did, I wonder how Dallas, I mean, I knew Dallas. I met him a couple times. I didn't, you know, I didn't have a relationship with him. I wonder how he looked at the podcasting landscape now. I talked about it with him a lot. Because there was a time when Combat Jack and then was the only thing moving, literally.
Starting point is 01:39:09 There was no other hip-hop podcast. May, you know, Juan Epstein, that's about it. I mean, Dallas was doing online viral stuff before anybody else. We talked about Jay Cole, too. Jay Cole, when he was on the Combat Jack Show, said the reason I moved to New York was I wanted to meet Dallas Penn. I was so inspired by the stuff he was doing online. Dallas was just way ahead of his time.
Starting point is 01:39:33 But, you know, he's a close friend of mine. We lived in the same building. I saw him all the time. And we talked about the state of things all the time. He loved it. I mean, Dallas could be a hater and a chaos agent. There's no doubt. But he didn't, you know, I think sometimes when you're kind of like first out the gate,
Starting point is 01:39:52 you can fall into a trap of kind of looking around being like, well, where's our acknowledgement? Where's, you know, the roses or the flowers, whatever? Dallas wasn't like that. Like, he ate this shit up. He loved it. He would have kept creating, which I think is kind of what. what makes it sad. Dang.
Starting point is 01:40:10 So sorry for the down. No, no, no, it needed to be done. I think it's important again to acknowledge you. So it was
Starting point is 01:40:16 combat founded, Combat Jack show. Well, actually I was talking to A King. Shout out to A King today. A King is our guy. A. King is at Black Effect with us and that's who the A King.
Starting point is 01:40:25 A King was trying to start an internet radio show and wanted to interview Dallas. Interviewed Dallas. And when Dallas came by their studio, Dallas was like, I want to bring my man Reggie along. And King's,
Starting point is 01:40:37 didn't know who Reggie was. And after the interview, Reggie apparently told King like, hey, I'd like to send you some writing I'm doing them, I'm trying to get into writing. And for those of people out there remember, Combat Jack had started a blog called Daily Mathematics, where you talked about his time as an entertainment attorney. And after King read that, he was pressing Dallas to do a show. Dallas didn't want to do it by himself. So he said, well, why don't I do it with my friend Reggie? King really had enjoyed Daily Mathematics was an incredible blog. You can probably. go online and find, you know, these postings are probably 15 years old at this point, but they still hold up. And that's how it all started, literally. Wow. Dallas was also a member of the Decepticons, which was infamous New York Street gang.
Starting point is 01:41:22 I thought he was a low-life. And he was a low-life. So he was really instrumental in a lot of aspects of the culture. Like, he was there from the ground floor and all that shit. How do you be a blood and a crypt? He figured it out. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Now he figured it. When did Pete come? Pete was the next one up? So then Dallas brought Pete along. And then Pete came in through Dallas. I think Benhamine, Jonathan Mena, like a lot of people. Dallas was a talent, but he was also one of those talents who could, like, identify in other people and shared the wealth and brought people along. So, yeah, yeah. Well, God bless, man.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Lord have mercy. Jesus Christ. Rest and peace to Dallas, been. Rest and peace to the great conference. Jack, it's crazy to me to think that both combat and Dallas are gone. So what's the, I mean, that has to be it, right? It's life, man. You know, you live lifelong enough, man.
Starting point is 01:42:23 You're going to see all of us, you know, eventually transition. Like, that's just the way it is. I just be wondering how, I'm like, damn, how old am I? Am I that old or are people dying younger? I think it's both. Yeah, because I remember, I remember, I was with, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was would come back a week before he passed. Sure.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Yeah. I went to go see him in Brooklyn. And I'd never forget how cold it was. It was freezing that, that, because he died in December, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So I saw him like, a matter of fact, it was the week going into Thanksgiving. When did he pass?
Starting point is 01:42:58 Like, maybe tweets after that? Right around Christmas, yeah, right in December for sure. Yeah. Rest and peace, man. Premier Pete spoke to Dallas for an hour on the phone last night. Really? Yeah. Now, Dallas was in the hospital, so we knew.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Oh. But he was planning on coming home. But diabetes folks. Don't play around. No joke. No, don't play with that shit, man. Take care of yourself. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Yeah. Also, can I say? No, Taylor. That's a bad transition now. It's a terrible. Dallas would like it, whatever. I just wanted to say I also was passing out my keychings for Taylor made their productions. This motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:43:37 God. I wish you went last, Chris. I was like, what am I. But I got key chains. I was gonna even talk to be like, well, at least you know, they maybe. I don't know, I'm trying to find a nice. There's no, there's nothing there. I got the keys to heaven.
Starting point is 01:43:53 If you got the key chains, okay? Hey, enter in heaven. I got something like to rock those pearly gates. My key chains. I just, you said I could. Shout out to your mom. Shout out to your mom. I was really not trying to...
Starting point is 01:44:11 Your mama was the second annual Black Effect podcast. That's right. That's right. Your mama was there and her daddy was hating on the play. You hear me? He was about the really punch you in your mouth. He was, though. Listen, Taylor goes, take a picture.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Dad, Dad, Dad's, I don't take no picture. Don't work. Your dad, your dad's a bit. Don't do too much. He did, though. Telling my line. Honestly, though, honestly, on some real shit, he was just, he was chilling. He was chilling.
Starting point is 01:44:39 He was a man. Yeah, he wasn't mad. It's a Philly thing. Exactly, it's a Philly thing. He's from North Philly. He's from North Philly. He's from Florida. Mama said, I'm glad you enjoy my pie.
Starting point is 01:44:49 No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Stop lying on my mom, yo. You know what I got for you next? Stop lying on my mom. I'm on cake and pickles. Stop buying on my mom.
Starting point is 01:44:59 That's not what the fuck she said. What did she say then? She just said that Taylor's been irking me with trying to start this business. So I'm going to start, I'm going to be making cake and pickles. as well. No, not to you.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Not to you. She didn't say Kate. She said, I'm glad you enjoy my pie waiting until you taste my pound cake. No, she didn't. No, she didn't. I got to take some notes from your mom, man. Those bars.
Starting point is 01:45:28 That's right. Those are the bars right there. Can we do some assing idiots, Taylor? Stacey, Ray, might take that. Next time, next time my dad come up, I'm telling him to punch you dead. What? I'm talking about my parents' marriage.
Starting point is 01:45:41 West Philly. I love your parents' marriage. Your dad is a lucky, lucky man. Yo, my nigger, chill out. He's promoted. I don't care. I don't care. He's a lucky man.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Get your tailor-made keychain. Thank you. Tailormaded.com. Is that what I said? No, yo. Tailomeadproductions. com. Nah, pound takes and pickles.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Shut on. Shut on. Let's go to asking idiots. Oh, Lord. What is the problem? I'm dead ass. Stop. Come on because I got him to bat.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I was like, holy shit. Damn. Let's go, Taylor. Let's go. Let's do some assigneers. Do two aftanids to get the fuck up out of here. He over you. God isn't proud of you right now, right?
Starting point is 01:46:28 At all. That's what I was asking Saturday Night in Magic City. Where the Wings at? At where the Wings at said, if you could talk with any animal for five minutes, what would it be and what would you say? Ooh, I love this. I love this.
Starting point is 01:46:45 If I could talk with any animal, it would definitely be something in the ocean. Yeah, I'd like to find out what a shark's strategy is so I can avoid them. I just want to know what they know. I want to know what whales and sharks and everybody thinks. I don't want to know what dogs are. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:47:01 It would definitely be something under the water. I want to talk to something under the water. I want to talk to a whale. I think if you're talking to the shark, Chris, I don't think you should negotiate with tariffs. If you'd act close to the shark and you're talking to the shark, he's eating your ass. No, what I'm saying is I would ask, like,
Starting point is 01:47:16 what is it that you see that makes you go into attack mode? Is it like a certain color? Is it flailing art? When you see chicken, what is it that you see? But some sharks swim right by you. What's... Well, because all sharks aren't... No, but even the killers.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Even the killers, you'll see sometimes they go right through people, right past people. So there's something that we do that makes them snap into attack. It's about taste. We look at menus every day. We look at menus every day and bypass all types of food. You bypass all types of restaurants to go eat where you want to eat. You ever seen a buffet?
Starting point is 01:47:51 You walk past all this up on a buffet and get what you want. Honestly, that goes for any animal, though. That's right. No, so he wants to know what's their appetite. They let sharks attack people on surfboards, for instance, because from the bottom of the ocean looking up, the arms and legs over the side of a surfboard might look like a seal to a shark, for instance.
Starting point is 01:48:12 So are you more likely to get attacked on a surfboard? Also, they think certain colors... Maybe surfers are more tasty. To be. I'm serious. Like, we over-complicating this. Why do we act like these sharks don't talk? Same way we recommend good restaurants to each other?
Starting point is 01:48:25 Yo, go eat a surfer. Surfers taste good as a motherfucker. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're probably... They don't want to eat good. People with glasses. I'm going to glass.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Do they profile races? Do they profile the lives? We don't know. Maybe. I want to talk to a cat. Or maybe an owl. They say owls or wise. Ovee.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Yo! Yo! All right. I'm sick of a cat. Oh, me. Oh, me. Oh, me. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:48:53 The cat were a worship back in, like, Egypt. That's true. So I want to know what that is about. Taylor? I said either. a whale or I don't know maybe a monkey
Starting point is 01:49:09 A monkey But why? Why? Well, whales, I guess The same type Like they're the Like, especially killer whales Killer whales are
Starting point is 01:49:20 They scare me, honestly I haven't seen too many documentaries to them But I just want to know Like what they be seen And I don't know We don't even know Killer whales even really kill
Starting point is 01:49:30 What is me? Have you not seen a documentary? They are They are more strategic than sharks Killer whales are like For real for real I didn't hear what he said I don't care
Starting point is 01:49:41 But exactly Killer waves are different Yo a cat will be dogs And monkeys are like You're like being Sabrina The teenage which you got your talking cat No I'm with that Guy talking to you
Starting point is 01:49:52 No don't go to that dance No don't go to that day I want to talk to the water yo I want to know what's in that water I want to know it down there yo You got five Yeah, you got five minutes you're going to waste to talk to a cat.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Or the cat's going to help me navigate where I'm at right now. The water, that's probably my afterlife. I'm not there right now. I'm dealing with now. But as I say, a whale or a monkey, and especially I want a monkey from, like, hopefully like the lion king. What's his name? Rafiki. That's actually a good one.
Starting point is 01:50:20 What about you, Alex? I would go with the sea animal just because I want to know what's down it. Cat, I'm with you. We didn't, like, there's so much in the ocean that we haven't explored you. So it's like, they can tell it. Katzerose.c.8 says, why does Charlotte hate Kanye so much? I don't hate Kanye. I don't hate nobody.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Anytime you hear me having conversations about people, it is because of my experiences with said individual. And I don't hate on Kanye. I'm just telling y'all what I know about Kanye. And everything that I know about Kanye, everything you see about Kanye now, none of it surprises me. Because I've heard him say all of this shit before. You've been injured a bar. I didn't told you. Whether you walk, whether you talk, way.
Starting point is 01:51:03 By the way, Kanye shouldn't be saying nigger no more. I don't want to hear Kanye say nigger no more. If you seek that kind of white validation the way Kanye does, you should not say nigger no more. And that's not hate. I don't hate Kanye in no way, shape, or form. I just know that he ain't my type of nigger. That's all it boils down to.
Starting point is 01:51:23 He don't like y'all. He don't like us. Don't let none of that shit fool you. But you know, Kanye cares about Kanye. That's what it is. That's so disappointing. That's fine. You know, he cares about Kanye.
Starting point is 01:51:34 There's a great book that I recommend people to read all the time. The five types of people that ruin your life. And it's about narcissists, sociopaths. They call them high conflict people in the book. And the only way to deal with high conflict people is to not deal with them. Literally. That's the only way to deal with them. And Kanye is a high conflict person.
Starting point is 01:51:58 and I don't think, you know, I want to deal with. So simple as that. Tristan Shop Talk says, you think this weed thing being rescheduled is just Biden getting votes. Yes, of course it is, because it's getting rescheduled, but it's still not going to be legal, you know, for recreation. You know, so it's good for those of us who are in the weed business. You know, we got a dispensary opening in Newark,
Starting point is 01:52:19 a dispensary in a consumption lounge opening Newark. So it's good for those of us who are in the weed business. But for everybody else, it's like they're still not making a newark. making marijuana, you know, legal for recreation. So it's the first step, I guess. It's a step. Last question. Harrison.
Starting point is 01:52:38 What's Debbie Harrison at? What would Charlotte do if he was a bad bitch? Junior Harrison says, what would Charlotte do if he was a bad bitch? What do you mean? What would I do? I am a bad bitch now. Exactly. What is you talking about?
Starting point is 01:52:52 I'll be doing breakfast club every morning, a train idiot, once a week, okay, for publishing books. All right? Let them know. Still the baddest. What are you talking about? Like, yes. Advocating for mental health.
Starting point is 01:53:06 What do you mean? I'm me talking about. Who Trina is. Why he goes with his bad bitch rat? Ooh, this is a good one to end on. Oh, no, let's go to this one. I'll go to this one. Our Flores 18, then I'll go through the one of them.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Our Flores 18 says, what's your favorite white person this? I got four black grandparents. You see that one trending after you before you? Do you see that? I got four black grandparents. It's hilarious. I love that. My favorite white person, this is milk crickets.
Starting point is 01:53:39 That's funny. What? Milk cricket. That's really funny. Calling a white person to milk cricket. I never heard of that. That's the best one of my favorites. That's better than cracker to me.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Oh, I thought they were saying like, oh, that's what they're saying? Yeah, what's your favorite wife? I thought they meant like a white person's this, like an M&M. No, milk cricket. Oh. That's my favorite. That's my favorite one. Milk cricket is my favorite white person this.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Calling somebody a milk cricket. Four black grandparents is hilarious to say to a half a black person. That is hilarious. I got four black guys. So I'm like, who side are you on in this beep? I'm like, I got four black grandparents. I'm bad at him with my grandparents. I do wonder about that, though.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Like when I hear, even when Jay Cole says things like, he said, if crackings ain't never this shit for me. Yo, that was wild, but he said. It's like, what is your family? I do be wondering stuff like that. Like, you can't just be out here distant. Cracker doesn't bother anybody, unfortunately. But I didn't even talk about the cracker aspect.
Starting point is 01:54:40 Just the fact, like, what do you mean, white people? We never did nothing for you? Exactly. His mom was like, his mom's white, right? Yeah, but I think she had, like, a drug addiction. I don't know how present she was, according to his rap. Well, he's still got a white family. But that ain't nothing.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I'm not mad. Listen, you are who you are. It is what it is. We just don't want to hear you saying a nigger no more. K-X-D-X-K-W-X-H-E. We can end with this one. Would heaven still be heaven without your family there? Fantastic question.
Starting point is 01:55:14 No. Well, we don't know what heaven is. Like, you know, we say here on earth, we say that, you know, you can create your own heaven and your own hell here on earth, right? Like there's, you know, you can be in a physical, you might be paralyzed in a coma that can be considered a physical hell. But if you're healthy and, you know, you can walk and you're not paralyzed and you've got your faculties, that can be considered a physical heaven. You know, somebody who's dealing with, you know, schizophrenia or that can be considered a mental hell. But if, you know, you got your sound mind, that's considered a mental heaven.
Starting point is 01:55:50 So when we're talking about this place called heaven, this kind of. concept called heaven that we all, let's just say we're talking about how Christians discuss that we die and you go to this place. What level of consciousness will we have when we get there? Will we even, will we even be aware of our past life? You know what I'm saying? That's what I mean. Like, would you even be aware that you were connected to these individuals, you know, this wife that you had, these children that you had, this mother, this fire, like, would you even know? But according to, what's the, what's the, person that we had on with the big hair?
Starting point is 01:56:29 Oh, Teresa Jude Ice, the Long Island Medium? Yeah. Like, you do remember. Excuse me, it seems like you do remember about your family when you died. I think, I think
Starting point is 01:56:40 it's like being cut from different cloths. I think that's how, like, your soul is. So, I think your soul, not to say reincarnates, but like, you got soul ties. So sometimes you know, your, your mom
Starting point is 01:56:57 might end up being your sister, your sister might end up being your daughter, but that's just because you guys are in like the same tribe in another life. You all believe in reincarnation? You believe in reincarnation? Like turning into like an animal or something like that? My in-laws do. Very seriously.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Really? Yeah, they just talk very matter-of-factly about what they were in past lives. Are you serious? Yeah. What were to? So, my father-in-law was a frog that was trapped in a page along the side of a pond and my mother-in-law was a little girl who came and opened the cage
Starting point is 01:57:34 and let the frog out. And because of that, he's now like indebted to her for a certain number of lifetimes. I'm shocked you haven't turned that into a children's book, Chris. What? I've heard you tell this story before. I'm shocked you haven't turned out into a children's book. What's the moral? I don't know, but that's a great premise. To be in love or something. But it's also speaks to the dynamic of their relationship because she kind of bosses him around. So like the running joke is it's because he's still indebted to her for freeing him seven lifetimes ago. But like, I'm not mad at that. They have another friend and I was talking to him and he was like, yeah, I was like the lead of the Chinese army in 530 AD.
Starting point is 01:58:09 And I took over most of Western China and then, you know, but just. You watch seven deli sin? But can you. Do you watch seven deli since? Mm. Oh, you give me anime vibe. Where are you, where are they getting that from them? Like, why are they believe that so much?
Starting point is 01:58:24 Uh, it's part of Buddhism. It's almost like a religion. And Seven Deadly sends the two main characters. I forget the name, but it's a guy and a girl, but pretty much they keep getting reincarnated, and they keep finding each other. So, like, one plays on the side of good, one plays on the side of evil, but he loves good.
Starting point is 01:58:44 And, like, it's actually a really dope show. But would you, would Heaven still be Heaven without your family there? I think, as J. Cole says, heaven is a mind state event a couple of times. like it's going to create it. So I think the real thing is like focus on your soul. Yeah. How would you explain spirit guides?
Starting point is 01:59:02 How would you explain, you know, your ancestors? Like, you know, they say your ancestors all around you. You got spirit guides all around you. And, you know, I've seen those spirit guides. I've seen those ancestors around me, you know, on and off different plant-based medicines. You see Hercules? Hercules.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Yeah. The movie. You know how like... The three girls? You never seen Hercules? Really? Oh my God. That's a Disney classic.
Starting point is 01:59:34 You should watch it. But nonetheless, it's all based off Greek mythology and how like the gods sometimes will come down and like send a message. So it's not really them. It's almost like a, what is it, a hologram type. But it's not a hologram. It's just a spirit. But I think it's kind of like Hercules.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Like sometimes the greater gods will send somebody. Yeah. or send a spirit to watch over you, whether it's a cat, whether it's a person, whether it's an actual spirit that you can see, but only certain. But the reason I bought that up, because if you still have your guides following you,
Starting point is 02:00:06 like your family members, ancestors, then it's still got to be family there in some way, right? Like, like, so I don't know. I believe that, like, I carry out my grandfather's chain and his ring, and I just feel like that's my, like, and I get it. And he came to me in a dream. So that's how I
Starting point is 02:00:25 I feel like Would heaven still be heaven Without your family there Also depends how old the kids are You know what I mean It depends how old the kids are too Like I would want all of us To be in heaven grown
Starting point is 02:00:38 Like I'm serious Like this running behind all these little kids They ain't heaven You know what I'm saying Like having to deal with like two year olds And five year olds And eight year olds That ain't really having
Starting point is 02:00:53 15 year old like let's no six six would be the sweet spot no chris i need like let's be old honestly 21 everybody got to be 21 21 because then everybody grown everybody grown like we like we going through some things right now chris you got a 15 year old at the house is like life is different they say your brain doesn't actually fully develop for men till 27 and women till 25 well well i just need development because i'm 15 8 five and two is just something else. Not it. No, it is it.
Starting point is 02:01:27 It's a beautiful. I love my kids. It is a beautiful thing to have a family. I'm just simply saying, heaven? You want to be at peace. Like, for real God, I'm still running around.
Starting point is 02:01:41 They would have to have their kids. This is why it doesn't make sense. Just from a numbers perspective, there's no way all these people could be around each other at the same. Because I'd want to be. around my grandparents, but my grandparents are also somebody's parents and also somebody's children. And those people, you know, and it's just like... I don't think age is going to be a factor, though. It's all energy. Like, imagine you just being
Starting point is 02:02:05 a life. So it's formless. I think all, I think when you pass away as a kid, you come back as an animal or something. I really feel that way. What? You don't think that humans is the last resort. I feel like we've been everything. No, absolutely. Really? I noticed. It has got to be another being after human. I mean, because we're all spiritual beings living human, I think all kids who pass away turn into animals because, and then they come back and they live their life as an animal for a while and then they may die as animals and reincarnate as humans again and then they didn't, hopefully they get to grow up in their next lifetime.
Starting point is 02:02:41 And I wouldn't be surprised if most kids when they die turning the dogs. Really? And that's why all dogs get taken care of. Do you think reincarnation is always into an animal though? you don't think reincarnation can just be people to people?
Starting point is 02:02:56 No, I believe that. I've thought about this a million times and I don't know why. People pass away. I feel like as soon as a person passes away in a lot of cases
Starting point is 02:03:07 they come right back out like that dark space is like the womb and they come right back out as another human back into the light. I really feel that way.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I don't know when I don't know if it's like immediate or if it's a year. year or two years later, but at some point you pass away, you're in that dark space, and then you come back out as a human,
Starting point is 02:03:30 another life form. That's my goal in life. I want to know what happens. Oh, you won't. You won't. You never gonna know. You won't. I mean, you will when it happens. Yeah. I think I just have to get myself to believe something, though,
Starting point is 02:03:47 because I had too many questions. Well, there's some people who say they've been to hell and back. They've been to hell? Yeah, like people, they've died for like a few and then they've been like, necessitated. Yeah. So they're, I was watching a clip of a guy who said he went to hell.
Starting point is 02:04:00 What's hell like? Is fire? He said it was hot. Not fire. He said it was hot. Yeah, what else did he say? He said it was a bunch of people down there. And the way he described the hot, he said like they're not on fire.
Starting point is 02:04:19 But they're all just waiting. And see, that's the thing. I'm not even. When I hear stories like that or when I hear tales about hell, why even play with it? Why not just do right? I just do right just in case. You know what I'm saying? Like, why even play with it?
Starting point is 02:04:35 Somebody created this story. I don't know if people have this much imagination. So why not just do right? Just in case. Yeah. You know what I mean? Be sitting here talking about, I knew I shouldn't listen to them stupid ass nickers on earth. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:51 Like, why? Like just in case do the right thing. I don't think that hell is this. Some people are just ignorant though. Well? Some people don't know. Some people don't know.
Starting point is 02:05:01 And I feel like there's this, sorry, sorry to do this, but J-Co got a line in this record called Changes. And it goes, and it goes, I believe if God is real,
Starting point is 02:05:12 he'll never judge a man because he knows all. And therefore he will understand the ignorance and pain to make you take a brother's life, the bitterness and pain that got you beating on your wife.
Starting point is 02:05:23 So he's saying, like, if God knows your struggle and he understands your pain, like he understands your why to why you do fuck shit. I need to know who J-Cold thinks is God before I say that's a dope mom. But if it's white Jesus. Oh, my God. It's white Jesus.
Starting point is 02:05:38 And is he still going to believe it after or he's going to apologize for it a couple things right? Wow. You know what? I have enjoyed myself. I'm just going on. This is going on. Great record.
Starting point is 02:05:50 And I fuck with that. Shout out to Cole. Carolina's all day. Okay, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit,
Starting point is 02:06:04 you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.

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