The Brilliant Idiots - White House Plumbers

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

In this episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz discuss the internet sensation Aaron the Plumber, They break down Drake’s newest album, the fallout from his rap beef, and what it means for the future of hip-hop. The conversation continues when they debate Anthony Edwards’ exchange with Barack Obama, questioning whether the former president has lost some cultural credibility. Plus, they tackle the buzz around Stephen A. Smith as a potential political figure and the shifting dynamics of the Democratic Party.  ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots The Wind on Her Tongue - Anita Kopacz https://a.co/d/fWDancH Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Charlamina got. Andrew Shult. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Let's start the motherfucking show. Heather Kyle Walker. What's up, my man?

How you feeling, man? I'm feeling good, man. Shout out Aaron the plumber, dude. Who? What? What do you mean? Make sure you're not starting to get me early. You're not trying to shoot early.

I'm not trying to shoot early. I'm just shouting out Aaron the plumber. Viral sensation Aaron the plumber. Okay, okay. Viral sensation Aaron the Plummer. Talk to star to Zeus Network. viral sensation Aaron Plummer Why they call him the plumber

Big Pipe? Joe! What? It might be that. It might be that. I don't know. We got to ask Eric Mena about that. I think he's an actual plumber.

Oh, he actually does plumbing. Why is he a star? He's a superstar. The guy's viral. Every time he opens his mouth, every time he chucks up the deuses, he's ready to go. Aaron just opened his mouth.

Somebody make him go viral right now. Are you rapping Drake right now? Have you been a... Oh, I saw him. Yo, this guy. I did see him. I ain't know his name. I saw him.

What happened? He got beat up? I did see this. He got beat up? You know, he likes to catch a fade or two. And, you know, and this one, he didn't come out on top. Let me hear some of this, Taylor. I did see this.

But you got to watch the other one is better when he didn't know that the girl was trans. What show was he? He didn't know that the girl is trans. And then they start fighting and the trans girl brings out her voice. Proud of you, man. Still using the proper pronouns and you don't have to? What do you mean? Oh.

Still using the proper pronouns and you don't have to? What's you're talking about? It will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female. You said you didn't know the girl was, oh shit, she's a trans man? No. No, she's a trans woman, man. Hey, trans women are women, Charlottomay. You're using the proper pronouns and you don't have to.

I'm proud of you. Don't you think it's more fun when he b-h-h-ha-ha-ha. Just when you thought that my sexism was done and I was a progressive individual. I found a way. I found a way to make it sexy. I found a way to bring out my true colors. So hold on. He didn't know the woman was trans?

Well, he didn't know that the woman was trans. So the woman beat him up? You know, they started. I don't know if we should. I want to use the problem. See him up on top. I also want to respect the law. What's the law?

You know what I'm saying? I want to use the proper pronoun, but I also want to respect the law. So, so. How do we do? I know how to do. Okay. So, you know, respect, not saying, respect Allah. What would Allah say about this, bro?

Respect. Wow. Wow, look what's happening, Taylor. We're off to a hot star. Shout Aaron the Plumber. What I told you is guaranteed viral. Let's hear, let's- Here, let's-eviretive viral.

Is this where he gets into the fight with the trans? This is where it begins. Let's hear it. Because this is the first, he doesn't know it's a trans, so he's a little flirtation. Okay, okay, Decepticons versus Transformers. Let's go! And she uses against him later, she was like,

yo, why was she trying to kiss me? See, that's fucked up. You didn't let me know. Because you tricked me. Because she might be, let me see, it's probably a good job. What? Meaning somebody probably did a good job on her. No, that's right.

You need, they need. Well, actually, actually, to be correct, somebody did a good job on him to make him or her. Boom. Boom. Kill that shit. Flash out. I'm telling you.

Clash out. She put this lip off in my lips. Clash out. Yeah. Clash house. Yeah, man. You said you wanted to live on. Yeah, man.

You said you want to go. Hey, diesel is shit, man. Come on, man. We got to have questions with somebody that's gysel, man. Come on, Aaron. I'm the person. Aaron. Aaron.

He's in there. Oh, is Aaron the plumber. The goat. Cut it the fuck out of him. It's just me, him. We lock eyes, everything. He has this hot breath, like, it's a hard desert. Come in straight to my face, melting my makeup off.

And I'm like, damn, bitch, you need some men. Now, I'm going to tell you something. Brea Diesel is shit, but I can see why Aaron got tricked. Yeah, she's very pretty girl. She, yeah, she looks like a woman. Like she does. Like, she looks like a woman. She's convinced.

She's not not convincing. She's not not convincing. You know what I'm saying? I mean, if you didn't tell me, if you hadn't told me beforehand, I don't know if I would have picked up on it immediately. Gotcha. But being that you told me, I'm looking for a little sign. So I immediately noticed the dies on this. You know what I mean?

Then he said she was musty. That's- Right? She's strong. I mean, she's strong. She's good shape. She has great arms. She got real strong. Show me to fight.

Let's, so is this where he fights the transgender? Yeah, but you gotta go back to the beginning. Is that the beginning of the video? Yeah. All right. So this is after the bus. Go. After they've been flirting on the bus.

Yeah. What do you mean? You gotta be yourself. Like, be yourself. Hey, man, you gotta watch how you're talking to me, man. For real. What's the hostility? What's the hostility?

You're a man, right? A trans. Aaron, you keep calling me a man. You had to bring the man out. Now the man's here. Did you care about that when you were trying to kiss me? Trying to kiss you? What?

But she ends up on top. Oh, man. Real fucking quick. All I know is we went from having a conversation and next thing you know, Deuce is motherfucker. Oh, oh. The boys, the girls, they're fighting. You wake up, bitch.

You're weak-ass boss. You fucking bombs, you fucking bombs, dear. Damn, it's just the second day. Yo, me and Yani stepped out so fast you thought I was Usain Ball and Shikari Richardson. Yeah. Yeah, how to dumpers feel? I was like, so why she's growing with a boss? My face looks good.

Yeah, no, don't. Yeah, you hurt. There you go. Take it. Wear it. Wear it. You know, you're wounded. Be yourself, baby.

Be yourself. You're not tripping. Well, come on, me. What the fuck you want to do? What the fuck you want to do? Come on. I can bring the man out, nigga. I can bring the man out, nigga.

When Brea used her man voice, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, I thought a horse got impaled with a spear or something. I knocked the masculinity back into a field. That's not fair. You should not be able to go in and out. If you pick a side, you got to stay there. You can't do that.

That's not right. Because what if you did that, why you're fucking? This ain't what I paid for. I was riding, cruising the streets. Looking for street meat and I picked up some street meat and I wanted some trans Street meat. I need you to be trans all the way through. All the way through.

I can't be piping you and all of a sudden you like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Like, no, that shit ain't right, man. That shit ain't right. I want my money back. At least half of them. Need half back. That ain't right, yo. So how did they resolve this?

He fought again. He fought again. Aaron and Brea fought again. Yeah, he fought a different one. A different one. trans? No, porn star. And now he's saying that his life is in danger.

Okay. God, damn. You got to fuck. I don't know. Viral sensation Aaron the plumber. And he's also still on TikTok plumbing. So he'll just be on TikTok like doing this. No, he didn't quit his day job.

No, he didn't quit. Shout out to Aaron. No, he's a real one. Eric going to fucking around and be on Breakfast Club. That's, yes. Yes. Yes. The dream.

No. Yo, we need... But you gotta see when he was getting emotional after the fade. Did we already put that one up? Is this it? That's the one I saw. When I saw he was crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it was him all. It goes back to the confession. God damn, you're sharing a blunt with him? I don't know, man. You don't have to you. I don't know, man. Shout out to Aaron. I don't know who he's sharing that blunt with, but I don't know, buddy.

Yo. Yeah, you might have to have him do a solo mission with the blunt. They're women. Hey, we're talking to the Mike Taylor. What happened? It's straight guys and then it's women. Have you watched the whole show? No, I just watched me as straight guys and his men.

I'm talking about the guy sharing the blonde with Aaron. Yeah, it's not a gay. It's not a gay guy. Huh? The guy he's sharing a blonde with is not gay. That's the point. Yeah, but he wanted to kiss the trans woman earlier. Yeah, I don't know where Aaron's been.

That's what, yeah. Okay, I thought you... It's okay. She's okay. She's with child, bro. She's a child, man. She can't think straight. It's feeding too right now. Aaron is shaped too.

So Brea got hands for real. You can tell, though. She was quick. Like she was hitting a fucking punching bag. Yeah. Anyway, shout out Aaron the plumber, man. Looking forward to see you on Breakfast Club. Let's not promote this.

What you? I'm promoting his genius. You said she sounded like a horse that was impaled by a spear. That's hilarious. I thought he said he was crying. He did. There's one. Oh, you saw the one where he was crying.

I think I did see that when I clicked off it because I didn't see the You gotta give me the origin stuff. If I knew he was crying because the trans put hands on it. He's crying because he lost a fight to another dude on the thing. Oh, so the transgenza didn't do this to him. Oh, that's not as entertaining. Never mind. I thought that he got beat up by the, I thought the trans put them hands on it.

Well, the trans did put them hands on it, but then a straight got, got busy. That shit was crazy. Bitch ass things out here fucking these holes outside the fucking hotel open. Erica, why would you entertain that? Brin still got everything? Why would you not? Get around these niggas. Well, on God.

Bro, come on, bro. Just bring this nigga. This nigga, pipe, pirate. You my nigga and shit like that, we jamming for show, and you know you ain't fin of get junk. But he got his ass beat. I'm like, bro. Who is pride pipe?

Real talk, nigga. I'm ready to get jiggy. Aaron? Yeah. You can't be the pie-piper and the form of the guy. You got a shit. Ain't nothing. Nigger.

Nigger pride hurt, though. I ain't go lie, nigga. Nigger pride hurt because, nigga, I ain't used to lose him. Nigger, I need to get some get back. Nigger in a real motherfucking way, man. Nick, I get him up with any nigga oldest earth, bro.

I swear to God, I never been no coward. Any nigga that had known me that tell you, nigga, I ain't back in the hell from shit. Nick, it'll beat my ass ten times, I'm gonna get back up. Not me. I promise you, nigga, when the opportunity to present itself again,

nigga, I'm going to shine, nigga. In a real way, nigga. I'm in this position that I'm in right now is because I'm in pursuit of love. You're traveling through the desert, a sandy storm, but you're never going to make it to the promise lane. They didn't drink. In a real way.

If you look this thing up right now, you can see the niggas dick all over the motherfucking internet. But if you look me up, what can you see? You can't see my motherfucking dick. Then you're going to speak it as shitty ass dig up in air, in a real way. And why do you send me this? My motherfucking pride is hurt.

God, damn. I'm early. on everything. Aaron? The fuck. Aaron the plumber. Who beat him up, though? Who beat him up?

It don't matter. You don't know him? Yeah, but I got to see him. He's the only person that lost the fight got more famous. Did they show the guy who beat him up? Yes. Show me that, man.

I got to see who beat him up. He's like a porn star or some shit. Because I'm seeing, I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, Aaron the plumber. The trans person looked like they got the best of you before they broke it up. Yeah. And then you just lost this fight.

I'm noticing a pattern. So, like, God, damn. Shout out to Aaron. Shout out Aaron the plumber. Damn, we got to get Aaron. Oh shit. Taylor. Who's blowing you up?

God damn, Taylor. That's me? Yes. I'll be texting you like that. I'm texting you. Oh. I'm like, what? Anywho.

All right. Wait, but this is a video right here. Oh. Nah, but this one is, it's just a fight that was lost. Then he got him, though. That's who got on, that's who jumped on Aaron. Why everybody jumping on Aaron? His name is pussy breaker.

He ain't losing nobody named pussy breaker. Because then he's going to think you pussy. You know what I'm saying? I broke you. You know what I mean? If you're on camera crying after I beat you up and your name is pussy breaker, that means you pussy and I broke you.

You're not the first. You can't do that. You're not the first. Aaron. Unclothed shit, Aaron. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

We went blow for blow, and I got my shit blue order. And boom, I catch him. Boom, he just dropped. I just seen him balls. Yo, porn star fuck you up and goes blow for blow. My shit's too hard. What?

What? Oh, no. You got to go get your get back in. Now I see why you want to fight this time. A motherfucking porn star named Pussybreaker said I can't went blow for blow my shit too hard. No, my shit blew hard. My shit blew hard. Oh, my God, man.

It's perfect way. I don't want to see the whole eight minutes. I don't see the beginning. You know, it was the beginning again? Look the world in the front play right. So it's on Zeus, man. Shout out Zeus, the Zeus Network. I didn't see the world star, though.

He's on there, too. We're going to mingle, get to know each other. Did you gorella? But it turned up to be WWW hearing. What the fucking going on it, man? W.W.E. People on that. Makes sense.

Why got what we call it? Erica's box. Oh, he's open airing up. Oh. The second round, bro, you got that. In a real way. I ain't going to want. Bro, you caught me when one.

It didn't hurt, bro. You bet. My mom. That's got her. That's your hurt, man. I don't care what you're doing. That's why you're drinking, y'all. All right.

I'm gonna get to shit. I ain't ducked nothing. Pack up. You don't look good. She said peg him. Come on. Come on. It's really hard.

Somebody's really hard. I got a real high pain tolerance. But you did drop me. You know, you did split me. And I was feeling some type of way. Come on. Now, stop it. Y'all don't get any more.

I don't get any more. Yeah. Y'all was hating on Zeus Network and now you're in trans. No, no, you were hating on Zeus Network. Now you're in trans. Now you're trans. You're like, yeah, you might be too. You might be too.

Listen, I don't have the most progressive network. I don't have a problem with the Zeus Network. Look at all this representation you have on here. I don't have a problem with the Zeus Network. Last time I watched anything this much from the Zeus Network, Jess O'Laris and her sister and I was at my house and they had, they maybe watched Jocelyn's Cabaret. And it was 16 fights in 17 minutes.

Fantastic. Literally, we're averaging a fight a minute. I mean, real fight. Shit like this. Yeah. They must not get, uh, they, none of this shit got to be in show. You would like the gay shit that they had on here then. They was fighting for room.

What the gay guys? Why would he like it? Yeah, why would I like it? No, I'm then saying. You can you stop right now with your mom brain? Yeah. I don't want to see. No, I'm like saying it like that, but how, like, you think it's funny how, what you call was talking?

I like fights. You're saying? Not the fight, but I'm a fan of martial arts. I like that. I like actual violence, though. Like, I don't want to see no, like... They were fighting. Like, I want to see y'all go at it.

They did. The splitting of that, I like that. Yeah, that was real. Really? Also, when the trans got up on it, and she started talking to her old voice. Crazy. Oh, my God.

Come on, man. Trans hit you with the throwback, man. You just got to take that L. I don't like that, though. You either take the L, you take the D. Either way you get in the goddamn... No, that wasn't going to worry. Another letter?

I was going to say he was getting a vow, but those are vows. And I couldn't remember what the other shit is called. Consonance. Yeah. Yes. All means necessary. Drake's not happy, guys. What you mean?

What is Drake not happy about Taylor King? He got the number one album. About to sell 250,000 copies according to academics, Instagram. Yeah, that's what they said, 250,000. Him and Party next door. Have you heard the album? I do. I like it.

Stop paying. I don't like when Drake sings. I'm on record. What about, what about, give me a hug. He did what's what's what? What did what? That's dope because he rap it. That's the same.

I don't like the end part, though. I don't like when Drake sings. That's never been my thing. I've never been to end of Drake when he sings. I like when Drake raps. But I get it. I get why he sings. I've been to one of his shows.

I see it. I totally understand. I don't like when he sings, though. You know what I'm saying? Are there any songs on it that you enjoy? That I enjoy. Honest assessment. No.

You don't enjoy, give me a hug. That's hate. I don't enjoy it. That song is fire, bro. It's dope. What are they called moth balls or some shit? That one's fire. I like when Drake raps, but I can't sit here.

When I say I enjoy something, I'm going back to it over and over. I'm listening to it. I'm reciting the lyrics. There's Drake rap records that I've enjoyed. I can't sit here and say I enjoy it. Give me a hug. And I just don't think it's the time for that record. I think it's the time for this album.

Putting out the ladies' music, putting out the shit to have the girls sing in and dance. Because the girls aren't going to react the same way to Kendrick's music that they will to an album like this. Also doing it with party and proving that if you are going up against UMG, and you are going against the streamers, you could still put out those numbers? I think it's a smart strategic move. But here's the thing. He can't put out the gangster rah-ra-rah-rah rap

after losing the beef together. No, he can't. But that's my point. Just like the trans person, he's doing his lady voice, and then at times throughout the album, he turns the man voice on. So fight him then.

You got to pick a goddamn side. Fight him, then. You got to pick a side. That's the duality of man. Because you can't get on, you can't say, okay, I want to get the party list. but then still be throwing a little shots at Kendrick here and there.

You lost. Take the L, do your R&B shit, and that's cool. Let's move on. Oh, you don't like that there's still shots in it. Okay, so outside of that, I'm just talking about the music. I'm just saying, put the song on.

Honestly, the music, it's not my, it's not for me. I'm not into it. Yeah. I'm not. You like it, Alex? I think it's okay. It's okay. I would give it like a six, six and a half, seven.

Y'all hey. You need to get busy. Also, I like Drake Rabbit. You know what Drake should be, I like Drake Rabbit too. You know what he should be doing right now with this album out? He should be in Certified Love Boy in Moat. That's what he's not this. Not on stage.

Boom-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bh with fucking A-Sat Rock. He was always doing that though. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? He fucking got DeMard de Roze. He got a kid jersey of DeMard de Rose and slamming it on the floor acting tough with a fucking, is that a bulletproof vest on? Yeah.

Like you can't- Like- But he always had that though. But you just put out the sexy shit. You're saying you make him sex. Yeah, but they don't know the music yet. So it's like, you go to a concert, you all want to sing along with the new shit you just hurt. I guess, man. He also realized that he's doing exactly what Kendrick said.

What's that? I've never seen somebody proofs much, right? What did he do? He likes break with the melodies. And look, he had to go back to the melodies. But no, he should. But he's still acting tough on the album. This is what women want to listen to.

Women do not want to listen to, boom, bop, boom, bop, boom, boom. Right? Like, that's not like, what girls are like, yo, it's time to fuck. Put on that Kendrick. Boom, bop, beam bop, boom, bop, bow. But I'll listen.

That's what you want to listen to. He has, first of all, he had other songs on the album, like Luther and. What Kendrick you fucking to? I don't know who he'd be fucking to. I'm not. Yo, she's too pregnant to be, take a mic away. He said, what'd Kendrick be fucking to? I said, what Kendrick are you fucking to?

How do you feel about Drake having a record called, give me a hug? Say what? Like, when all of these allegations? and shit flying around. Yeah, that's fine. You can't be that guy asking for a hug over and over. What you mean? They say they, they're not saying little kids get me a hug.

Like, still, you're talking about strippers. Yo, give me a hug, get over here. Give me some, give me some ones. Give me some ones. I want to fucking hug from you. Give me some one. You know what I'm saying? Give me some ones.

I don't know, listen, here's my thing, man. I'm an OG Drake hater and I'm committed. No, we can get up. But we got to be objective. I really don't like the album, though. We got to be objective. But I don't care. Even me saying I don't like the album, don't even matter.

I don't care. Like that's, I don't like when Drake sings. So this ain't for me. You know what I'm saying? If Drake came to me, I'm like, yo, listen to this. As soon as I hear the melody, I'm like, I don't want to hear that shit, bro. Give me some bars. Then when I hear, give me a hug.

I'm like, oh, that's tough. That's tough. I'm like, I would have said you'll change the fucking ending. Like, that shit is silly. Like, why you, you know what I'm saying? You just finish barring them up. Why you want to talk about give me a hug. Give me a hug, though.

Sometimes you need a hug. Sometimes you project him what you need. Sometimes he wants a hug. He needs the love. That's what he's saying. Give me a hug. He's like, yo, I need a hug. I bet you he saw paid him full.

I bet you paid him full was the inspiration for that album. You remember what bitch said, I go out because I need that love. You know what I'm saying? He's like, yeah, I need to go to the script club. I've been kicking my ass all year long. I didn't see this motherfucker at the Super Bowl. I didn't see him at the goddamn Grammy for the Bible was.

I just need to go back to where the love is. walk up in the script club I'm like oh shit Drake you missed me give me a hug get that hug gay the tour

I need more wins or what is it I need a Max win I need a Max win like he's saying what he needs right now Drake is Drake as we've been saying

just throughout the whole battle you're still Drake at the end of the fucking day he's what he's Aubrey he's never not been Aubrey y'all hey he's never not been

Arbery. All right, y'all not allowed to have sex to no more Drake music. I've never had sexy Drake music in my life, okay? That's why. Drake... There's one Drake record I was playing.

You wax your pussy. There's one Drake record I would play. If you used to be gay and then you stop being gay, started as a bottom. Started as a bottom. Now I'm saying. Now it. Started as a bottom.

Congratulations. No, $250,000 is a good look. But the label's still fucking with him. Does he prove anything to the streamers? Does he prove anything to UMG? Is there any... Bro, UMG was calling last week asking, what's the radio record?

What does that mean? What does that mean? That means that they still fuck it with them, ain't they not fucking with them? Oh, like they were calling on his behalf. Yeah, see, I was saying that I wanted to see Drake without his superpowers. I didn't know how the streaming platforms

would receive them, how labels would receive them, but it's still business as usual. I thought the reason why it's released on parties, Spotify and stuff is because he can't release music while he's in this lawsuit with Drake. It's on screaming platform. Yeah, but it's on streaming platforms under party, not, uh... Maybe it don't count of the Drake album. I don't know. I can look and see. Let me look to see. I didn't even bother to look. Let's see. Let's look this up, guys.

Do people call him party? Yes, P&D, party next door. But what about the part of... Oh, this is on Drake's screen right there. Yeah. Both party? Yeah. It's under Drake's out. No, it is because it's number one. So it's going to be Drake's 14th number one album. Is Drake's 14th number one album Party's first number one album? So they both released it

Like you put it on You look under Drake and you see it Because when I looked under party I saw it Which one now? When I looked under party I saw the album I could be completely wrong No, it's on Drake too It's there now

Oh but it wasn't original It came out it was because I remember I couldn't find it Ah Ah this is what happens See? Yeah because it's gonna be Drake's 14th Number One album parties first

Hold on one second. Drake still got it. He still got it. He never lost it. Who said he lost it? He lost the rap battles. This one. I still say he lost it.

Those people. And I'll be biased. It's fine. I don't understand how anybody could say Drake is still not Drake. We've been saying that throughout this whole battle. Drake is still Drake. Now, did I want to see him without his superpowers?

Yes, meaning I wanted to see what would happen if he didn't have all the performance enhance and drugs, but he still does. Now, what he's doing right now was very Taylor Swiftish. Which is? He's got all his minions acting like he's the victim

and there's suppression of his album and, you know, he's fighting against the label. None of that is true. None of it. You can, I pulled up Drake's album is now on the screaming platform like it was nothing.

But what I was saying is he didn't pull it up last week when it came out. Yeah, the day it dropped. I know it wasn't on when I went to spot a phone. I don't know if that's true or not, so I can't debate. I can't be joined. I have no idea.

All I know is he's doing $250,000 record. And radio is playing his music. And the labels are calling saying, what's the radio record off the album? I don't see any slack at all. Like, what's the problem? And I'm just curious, though. They call you asking you what the radio single?

I thought they give you and tell you which one they want. No, those days been over. Because those days been over nowadays because of the streaming service. Because you can drop up. Like, say you drop your album and you're trying to go with this one, Oh, but the people like another song. Exactly. So then you pivot to that.

Exactly. Before you had to guess. Absolutely. Those days are old. Them day, they've been long, long, long, long. That is kind of wild that you just had to guess. But I mean, but you would listen. You'd listen to an album and be like, yo, that's the one that's going to go.

I mean, it's actually an art to it, but I think nowadays it's better. You present your body of work and you let the people decide. And I've been saying that for the longest in regards to program directors, you know, A&Rs. I don't even know if A&R still exists anymore. But it's like, yo, this is, you got to have the easiest jobs in the world right now. Because all you got to do is let an album come out. Let the people decide. And then you program your fucking radio station.

But you got a bunch of idiots, you know, in radio who still want to act like their gatekeepers. Now realize there ain't no motherfucking gates. Right. You're standing at the gate. Don't even realize all these motherfuckers then ran past you. It's a whole party going on while you're saying, wait, nobody can get in without me. You got to turn around. Or maybe not.

Just bend over. What else do you got, Taylor? Um, well, there's another one of the Drake being upset. Oh, this shit's set up. This is for steak, clearly. Yeah. Or something, right? Yeah, I'm not tripping on that.

My man said, somebody texted me yesterday. Hold on. Let me read you what they said. This shit was so funny. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, yeah. He put in the thing, he said the stakes are higher.

Some of that. That's a caption. Hold on. Somebody said, this is just how they know Drake, no. Drake don't fuck with no Spanish women for real Because he said, yeah, you can tell Drake Don't mess with no Spanish broad for real He'd be able to throw a chancla.

Oh, chancletta. That's what that was. It was a chancletta? He said he could throw a chancletta way more accurately. That's funny. Listen, the only thing that can stop, Drake is Drake. Drake has handled this beef worse than anybody.

If Drake would have just got low, not did the lawsuit, not show us how bothered he is, we'd be on to the next. If he had never done any of that and said, you know what? All right, cool, you got it. You beating my ass, whatever, whatever. Super Bowl, Grammys, all that. All right, February 14th, the first time you hear from him is an R&B album? Yeah.

Everybody like, damn, Drake don't give a mom. Drake ain't even bothered by this shit. Like, Drake ain't say nothing. He ain't tweet nothing. He bowed out with the hard part six. me and heard from him and you back with this R&B album, you'd be like, all right, who you think? The only reason we're looking at Drake Crazy

is because of all his actions after getting his ass kicked in the rap battle. Yeah, there's nothing you could do after, not like us. The song is so unbelievably catchy. It's unreal. It's unbelievably catchy. It might be one of the best songs ever produce it. It just happens to be a...

A rap record, I'm telling you. It's truly... Glasses Malone said this a while ago to me, and I was like, I don't know yet. I already gave it best this record of all time but he's like, yo, I think this is the biggest hip-hop record of all time. It's so good.

It's so good. I don't want to be a prison of the moment. It's so good, bro. And it's crossing over in ways you can't even, man. You see little kids in Africa while into it. You see Will Ferrell them remaking it at S&L. It's different. I don't know.

I think it's too early to tell that one. I want to say biggest hip-hop record of all time just yet. Yeah. But to, you can't. It hasn't been a year. I wouldn't even take anybody seriously if they were like, ah, it's all right. No, it's not. It's not all right.

It's too catchy. It's incredible. Nah, it's too catchy. Wait till kids' bob does it. I'm telling you, wait till kids' bob does it. Certified lover boy, certified with a smile. You know it's coming. You know it's coming.

What else we got, Taylor, gang? What is this big brother, him? People were trying to say like when Yeah, Anthony and Barack Obama Anthony Edwards tells former president Barack Obama and 76th

Played Joel and B to stand down after questioning his game on the court Let me hear this? I didn't see this. Truth What in the Barack Zita? He said the truth.

Yeah? Are you going to know? I guess. He cold though. I got a game. He gave up 50 year time. We play him. I mean, I ain't seven foot.

And y'all got two seven-footers in this and he's still. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm talking, we ain't gonna do all that. No, I'm just saying. Three something for us. He got three, that's right, because he got nine. I told you that.

I said, he did, he did give me credit. I remember. Hey. LeBron. Awesome. Oh, is mad. Are you all talking to this young man? Because he just keeps on, right now he just said, he's the truth and all that.

The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. That's what he said. You asked him, tell him the whole context of the situation. You asked him what he thinks about this young man and he said, I'm okay. I said, I'm the truth. That's what happened. What's wrong with that? See?

I don't know. That man the truth. Got to have that. You got to have a little swagger like that. Why is it so uncomfortable? Yeah, like that is. What that is right there? Strawberry lemonade?

Mark, is it. Yeah, it's a shoddy temple. And shout out of here to the Ewas, man. No. Oh, I'll take one of those. There you go. Yeah, let me get away from this. Let me take a little bit of your head and get away from this name, man.

Yo, why are they treating Her Rock like this, man? That's crazy. You know what you mean? You come up to me and tell me my game is just okay? Yeah. All right. You can be honest about my game. Now I ain't feeling you.

I'm not mad at Anthony. I was for that. I'm not. Rock shoots he doesn't miss. Listen, he was missing right there. He had to call somebody close to his age. When Barack shoots, he doesn't miss. Man, he was missing just now.

He had to call for backup. He was like, yo, let me find the oldest person in here that's close to my age. Brian, come here real quick and save me. This YN is going crazy on me right now. Barat just learned to stay away from them YNs. No, he told you. Yes, he did. Uh-uh.

Yo, he don't have access to the drones no more. Oh, he doesn't? No. You really think? No. You don't think he can call Donald? You don't think Donald would be more than happy to help out? Nah, no, Donald would fuck with it.

Donald probably fuck with Anthony. You think if Barack called up Donald and he was like, oh, there's this black guy in Minnesota. He's causing a lot of problems. Listen, Anthony Edwards treated Barack the way Barack should have treated Donald Trump and Jimmy Carter's funeral. All right. Okay. All right.

I'm not about if I don't like you and I ain't going to pretend to. Yo, all right. Do Barack lose some cred amongst the athletes or something like that? Why is, that was a very weird thing. They should all be kissing his motherfucker. You realize you old? Yeah. We're old.

So they don't even know who he is. So Anthony Edwards doesn't know who Barack Obama is. He knows. He showed me. He don't care. That was crazy. How old is Anthony Edwards? And then tell me all.

old he is, and then we can figure out how old he was in 2008. But you got to show a little respect. He's 23. Was he even alive in 08? I'm serious. He was two, right? Oh, yo. How old was he in 08, man?

If he's 23 now. It's 2025, bro. Are you saying there is a world where he does not know that that is Barack Obama? He's Georgia. He's minding his business, living his best life, playing ball. He don't give a fuck about no bribe. He probably like Jeezysol. My president is black, my lamp old blue.

But even still, so I don't care. Anybody, think about this show. No, no, let's think about this thing. Your Netflix special coming out. Yeah, March 4th. Somebody said, let's say it's Trump. Yeah. You saw my special?

Yeah. What did you think of it? It was okay. Yeah. In front of your peers. Let's say it's you. Yeah. Shane Gillis is there.

Chris Rock is there. Chappelle is there. I don't know why he would all be in the room with Donald, but still, they're all there, and he tells you it's just okay in front of all of them. You bow it down? If who said it? Trump!

You're not taking that from nobody. Cut it out. I'm not walking away. I'm going to get, I'm going to have some fun. After what Anthony did! Yeah. Played a kid. Anthony had some fun.

No, he said, hold on now, hold on now. And then immediately got out. It was like, he had to let him know. That shit was so weird. I don't think so. Something's up there. No. Tell me, I'm, I think it's just because.

they're all trying to pretend like this is a natural conversation and it's not a bunch of cameras around. God, God, God, so they're all a little uncomfortable. They don't want to misspeak. And Edward's like, let me get out of here before I say some wild shit. And LeBron is getting pulled into this thing and he wants to show respect to Barack, but at the same time, there might be a little competition

between Aunt and LeBron. No, Ann said, let me tell you all the context. He said that my game is just okay. No, he didn't even say this game is okay. That's what he just said, playing it. I didn't think I saw Big Big What do you think about this young guy? He can hoot a little bit, huh?

He can't have to stand down. I'm true. He's saying the truth. He's the truth. Brock's complimenting him. No. Yes, he is. No, y'all missed this.

He was a little boy. Yeah, because he's a little boy. What do you think of this comedian? Yeah. If there's a bunch of OGs, right? If there's a bunch of super OG comedians and I'm around and they go, and they go, so what do you think about this young guy?

Pretty good, huh? That's their way of saying, yo, you're nice. But they also want to let you know that they're OG. If Barack had started that conversation, if Barack was having that same conversation with LeBron and Anthony, is different. Joel, you ain't win shit either. So don't act like you who don't even want to play

back-to-back games who's always hurt. Don't talk to him like he's so much my OG. Only thing you got, only thing old Joel got on Anthony has with some time. Play, play, watch it. Watch it from the beginning. This is actually great. Play, play, go back.

I mean, I'm saying, play. But I do get a little. Shelter's saying, it's like they're being tongue in cheek, but I don't think he's shitting on him. Are you saying that he should give him respect just because he's a former president? Yeah. In that moment, you're not a former president. Also, he's a former president who is actually complimenting. He's basically saying to Joel and Vito, this kid is nice.

And he's saying, not really. Nah, you're not reading it right. Presby again, press play. Joel was kind of shit at all. No, listen, listen. I just think I saw a big guy. What do you think about this young guy? He can hoot a little bit, huh?

What do you think about this young guy? He can hoop a little bit, huh? I can hoop a little bit. This is how... He's the truth. He's the truth. Yeah. Are you going, though?

I guess. He's cold, though. I guess? I guess. He gave up 50 year time. He's talking about Joelle now. And you're talking to Hosephibb. You're not even looking at least.

Hold on. Go back and play. He goes, I'm the truth. He goes, you're the truth? I guess. Nah, bra. You're missing this whole conversation. Nah, bra.

Nah, you can't, little boy me like that. This is how OG's talk. No, nobody can say to you, got your little stand-up special coming out on the 4th, huh? If you know who could do that? Chris, if Chris, Holly Quinn and all those guys, I'll take it down.

Your little stand-up special? Also, I'm 41 years old, 18 years in the game. He's fucking 24, seven baby mamas. But you know, listen, don't little nothing I'm doing. Yeah. Got your little studio, huh, Alex? You're a little WTF studio. All right.

If the best players, if the best players in the game or the biggest producers in the game all the hot execs from my heart and all these other finger bag what you think about this guy right here pretty talented got a little WTF thing is really popping

they're basically saying yo we're O'G's but you're cooking why are we been talking about it? The little marginalizes it yo don't little me he's a 60 year old man I think M.B. made it worse because M.B. should have just been like

oh yeah he's nice M. B was like yeah he's all right so that's when that's when Aang got he was like, yo. But to answer to credit, he did say y'all. He said, y'all cut it out.

He ain't say you. That's true. He did say y'all. So he's throwing that Joelle and Barack. But then when LeBron came over, oh, now you're really trying to play him. You're going to call it a big dog. Why is it so serious? Like, he could just be like, man, yeah, they say, I'm the Baraka basketball.

You could just say that, and then it's fun and now we're all having a good time. But then they got into some real competitive shit. You did ask the question, though. What did you say? You said, had Barack lost a little bit of credibility. I'm just asking you got. What? I think so.

From why? Ken? Me? Yes. I don't have to do it. Why are you laid on all great mixed race people, bro? Drake, Barack, me. I don't know.

What? What? No, I'm mixed race. I think that he lost a little bit of credibility this last election cycle when he went out there and basically was chastising, black men. And you're coming up with all kinds of reasons. and excuses, I've got a problem of it.

Because part of it makes me think, not speaking to them directly, part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman is present. And you're coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that. I really do. That's not a hot topic. That's not a hot take. Where's all your hate for Kamala?

She's mixed race. Kamala ain't chastised black men But I don't hate President Obama You just ask me a question And I'm saying this is where I think A little bit of that came from You got Brock's number You could probably text him

Um no Call Barack right now Just be like, yo Can you just clear some shit up for us real quick? But also to Also too He could do that He's absolutely

And if you If you, I want Hmm, this is good If you went out there He campaigned for the VP the way President Obama did. And I mean, she did still garner 72 million votes. So I'm just going to assume that he helped get her some votes,

but she still didn't win. There is a part of you that there is a part of people that's like, you know, he couldn't get her over the finish line. You know what I'm saying? She couldn't get herself over the finish line. I mean, Bill Clinton hasn't lost any love. And he's been on Epstein's Island a lot. That's the reason.

And the boys still ride more. They downplay Clinton on purpose. What you mean? Because they know if they ever bring Clinton up a little, little, little too much. They're talking about Epstein. They're talking about Fstein. They're talking about Fstein. You got to lean into that shit. You got to, yo, we ID them, bro.

This shit was crazy. Like, I went to the, I didn't go to the teen night. I went to the 21 and over. They had teen nights. I wasn't there. I went to 21 and over. If all of these rumors it true, what if Clinton just lets it all fly on his deathbed? You, let it fly.

You're on your deathbed. Who cares? Like, yo, we were there. The island was lit. Okay, it was 21 and over. They all showed me their passports. It was fired. Done.

And that's before, and you ain't even get to the alleged bodies. No, he got to take the body suit. That's what I'm saying? He was talking crazy. I was just out there trying to talk about somebody's game. He didn't say shit, so he gets Merked.

That's what the fuck happens. Old Barack would have had a drone strike on the ant's ass. That's what would have happened. Uh-huh. Yes, that's what had happened. I'm not mad at an ampha acting like this with the president, yo. Nah, you got a little sense.

He's a little sense. You're talking about basketball. He's talking about the last black president ever. You don't let him talk about the last black president of the United States of America. I'm not even debating that. Listen, Alex, you, Alex, you right now do not want nobody talking about your production, talking about your studio. Yes, but you don't want nobody talking about your comedy. If it's Barack Obama and trying to make a joke.

No. Obama goes, pulls me over. He's like, what do you think about this young guy, man? He's pretty funny. I'm going to say, I'm like, thank you so much. I'm like, hey, stand down. I'm the truth. I'm the funny.

I'm going to be like, yo, look at this guy. He's there. He got the second best jumper out of all the presidents or something like that. You don't make it quick back. I would have fun. I wouldn't hit him with what show said. I would have said send Joel back to Africa. I would say, yo, send this migrant back.

He keeps not going to say to the playoffs. An should have been like, I know the last half black president ain't talking. You know what I'm saying? Get me. Give him a shot back. Give him a little room. And took a serious. But as I said,

and it was a little sensitive. But you know why? Because he's talking about his game. No, because he didn't pay his taxes. I'm telling you, a lot of these guys don't pay their taxes, and they get nervous around presidents, and they should be.

I don't think this is wrong. Are people mad at him about this? I didn't, because I didn't even, this is the first time I've been watching this video. He's kind of joking about it, honestly. I don't see the problem. I think you should keep that same energy at all times, okay?

You got to have a little respect, man. No. No. He didn't, to me, he didn't disrespect him. I don't see the disrespect. He's just letting him know I ain't like that shit. You mean, I'm just okay. Okay, hold on. All right, somebody said that wasn't just barbershop talk. It was a young man whose body language and speech resonated attitude,

entitlement, arrogance, lack of respect, and little education. And if you do this with one of the most respected black men in the U.S., we will soon hear a disruptive behavior elsewhere, oh, come on. Yeah. And see what I'm saying? Go to the profile. That disrespect for arrogance is going to bring him down. Go to the profile. The maturity of a can of a What is he supposed to do? The maturity of Hawaii? Oh, my cat. Talk about,

because we're not talking about, we're not talking about something else here. Everybody's looking at Anthony Edwards. Maybe y'all ain't used to seeing Barack this casual. Maybe you ain't used to- We are, though. We know Barack is casual.

We've seen him in these environments. You ain't never seen him with a YN. You've seen them with people his age. What is that? Don't worry about it. You don't fucking worry about it. What doesn't stand? You ain't never seen him with a Y-N.

Yeah. When you're talking to a Y-N, What's a YN? Don't worry about what a YN. What is it? You just ain't never seen him at 60 plus years old engaging with a YN.

That's why it seems so awkward. You've seen him engaging with people at his age, close to his age so he can give off the cool. Everybody knows they're joking, whatever, whatever. Barack probably got a little...

Barack ain't felt like that since Chicago. Whoa. He ain't felt like that since he was walking the streets in Chicago trying to win elections. Okay? Damn. He was like, oh, shit.

The comments just proved you wrong, they do feel away that he was talking to a battle with that. I don't care what them stupid motherfuckers in the comments said, and those motherfuckers in the comments suck dick. Because the reality is, don't, why you code switch it? What's your beef with Barack? I didn't know what's your beef with sucking dick. Like, why, what's wrong with Barack Obama?

No, this is crazy. I have no beef with Barack Obama. No, it's not. What would Aaron the Plummer do? Why do y'all want Anthony the Coles with him? What would Aaron the plumber do in this? Aaron would have caused a fight in that motherfucker. I think he would have chucked him up.

I ain't no coward. No, Aaron would have been like, I only want to fight you with Michelle at. Listen. Square help with Michelle at. Square help with Michelle. On the dead homies. On the dead homies, love. On the dead homies, what's up?

Listen. I ain't no coward. He's not from L.A. I have nothing but respect. Hey, there's dead homies everywhere, because there's dead homies everywhere and it's on them. Chuck them up, Michelle. I have nothing but respect for President Obama. I'm just simply saying.

I don't see what Anthony Edwards did wrong here. The Barack said, yo, his game is just okay. He never said that. He said he's pretty good. Go, press play. I'm tired of you listen to the same sentence. No, but I'm thinking that we must not have this in the right context.

No, don't start from the beginning. Press play from right there. After he calls Abrampton, press him. Oh, I'm talking. We ain't going to do it all that. No, I'm just saying. Three-seven four of us. He got three.

That's right, because you got nine. I told you that. I told you that. I said he did, he did give me credit. I remember. Like, hey. Labar. Come on.

This is Barack Esklee. Are y'all, talking to this young man? Because he just keeps on... Right now, he just said, he's the truth and all that. The truth. The whole truth of nothing but the truth. That's what he said. You asked him, you tell him the whole context of the situation, though.

You asked him where he think about this young man, and he said, I'm okay. I said, I'm the truth. He's true. So, Barack never said he's okay. What wrong with that? Oh, and Bean said he's okay. And that's why Anthony say, y'all. He said, y'all stop playing with me.

He gave both of them energy. So why is everybody acting like Anthony was just talking to Barack? So niggins in the comments is wrong. Damn, bro. Damn, bro. Why we have to make a kid that? You're right, you're right. Are you referring to why?

Set up. That's what you were saying? He's right. So everybody in the comments is making this an Anthony Barak thing. Anthony said, y'all, y'all stop playing with me. like that. So he's giving it, he's telling him, he's talking to both of them. I don't see the problem. He's stressing, bro. Obama felt the energy though. He felt it. That's why he told Braun. Come over here. And then he didn't even know what to say. Yeah, because Brown

looking like, man, I don't like being around these YNZ. It feels like, I'm 40, but I'm about to be up out of here, okay? Yeah, this is, yeah, feels like Brock's doing a vlog. Right? Like, what's happening right now? This should, this is not a YouTube content for Barack. Barak should be able to hold court in these places and everything is cool. I don't get this energy at all. And LeBron does not want to come over. Yeah. But just speaking of biracial, Barack, President Obama is still President Obama, but you asked me a question, do I think

he lost a little bit of credibility? Yeah, just a little. No, bro. A little. Last election. Shout out to Barack. Thank you so much for getting Trump elected, man. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? By the way, there's somebody listening to this podcast right now, like, see, Andrew, the only one making sense. Then he said that,

and you're like, you know what? Fuck in. I got to keep on their toes. Everybody needs to be on their toes. We're going to bring you through a range of emotions. And guess what? Even President Obama. Don't code switch. Don't change your energy just because of who you talking to.

If something bothers you, you tell them. Right then and there. Aunt Edwards will be playing for the Toronto Raptor. Iraq is going to make a couple phone calls. Antsay he don't even want to be the face of the league. They asked him that. He was like, I don't want to be the face of the league. Y'all got Wimby for that.

By the way, a foreigner will never be the face of the NBA. No, you can't do it. I don't give a fuck. good he is. That might as well could average 50 and 70. Okay? And he'll never be the face of the NBA. Nope. It's not happening. But who will? It's going to be Ant. He's just incredible. Well, the two

phases of the NBA were supposed to be from California right now. Jaya and Ant. Jaya and Zion was supposed to be the phases of the NBA. Yeah, Zion. But Zion like honey buns and Jah like guns. That's why I was calling him snacks and gats for a second. But the reality of the situation is Jah getting back.

But once you kind of fumble it a little bit, it takes a wild for the NBA to get back again. No, no, he's still good. No, build up confidence in the NBA, yes, yes, yeah. We saw that, God bless the day. We saw that with Kobe. Yeah, I mean, you saw it with Iverson, too.

Oh, they never wanted to get the, yeah, but the people, he loved, he loved him too much. The coach, yeah, even matter. Yes, it was. The NBA had to change rules, but Alan Iverson not to be the face of the league. Yeah, but when you think about it, Iverson changed the rules too. Have easily.

Because now nobody's wearing a suit on the sideline. Nobody. Everybody wanted to look like AI. the braids, the tattoos. Like, you couldn't... By the way, I've never seen anything like that. Complete authentic disruption. Never seen it.

He didn't try to be a disruptor. He just was just being himself. That's right. He was being his authentic self, and he wasn't going to be a fake person just because he had these arbitrary rules. And the people felt it, and he changed the game of basketball.

No. Unbelievable. Nobody owned culture. I don't know if... I mean, I don't know if... I wonder in our lifetime if we'll have another superstar with that type of gravity as Alan Iverson.

Keep in mind, Alan Iverson, unfortunately, has not won an NBA championship. I don't know that many players. He's the only person that feels like he got a ring that doesn't have one. That doesn't have one. Like, can you name players

that are that famous, that successful, that respected, that beloved that have no championships? I don't even know if he got an Olympic gold medal because they got bronze the year that he played, right? Yeah, that's a good. I don't know.

Look that up. So is there somebody that is that beloved, that hasn't won. He won at Georgetown, though, didn't he win his freshman year or national championship? I'm making this up. He might have.

I don't know. I don't quote me on that. He might have. But, like, yeah, that's just pure relatability, disruption, aspiration. Now, he don't have a gold medal. Yeah, he won bronze.

You're right. O'4 Olympics. I don't know if there's another player that was that endeared. Because he won the culture. That's a great idea. He won the culture. When you say culture, he didn't just went black culture.

He was the rebel with a cause. Everybody loved him. Everybody. What I said, with a cause. Yes. He was a rebel with a cause. Also, he looked like you. Like, if I'm playing basketball, I don't look like a seven-footer.

He never looked like you. Yeah, no, he's like that. I looked like a skinny. Oh, you did have braids. I had cornrows. You did have, I forgot. You did have corn row. I mean, well, I started cornwood.

I had cornrows. He did have cornrows. He did. What did mean my mom? Hold on. Why can't I have cornrows? Yeah, what's the wrong with cornrows? I think I didn't invent braiding hair.

You guys have the first person of braid hair. You think y'all did? No, I don't know if we did, but I'm just saying like... I think we invented corro. Yeah. I think we invented corned. What's the French braid? That's not cool.

That's not cool. It is. It's different. It's different the way you do it. It's similar. I think I don't have braids for you. I had braids before you were born. Yeah, that's.

Okay. Before you even knew about cornrows, I was corn rowed up. For how long? I had cornrows so fire that people would ask me, if people would ask me. They were not. Cornrows. I had like, they were fresh too. Who did your cornrows?

I had this girl from Harlem. This girl from Harlem. This girl from Harlem didn't. And it was like, it would stop. You never seen the picture? I don't think so. To be factual, though, corn rolls originated in Africa. Thank you.

Yeah, they've been around since 3,000 VCE. All right, if you look up Dr. Umar.com, where did a cornwall originate. That's where it's going to find out. Why do you have cornwall? And they actually did it because enslaved Africans used cornrows to preserve their culture and even as a way to map escape routes by brating patterns that resembled paths to freedom. Oh, wow. I would be so mad if I saw that in my life.

Andrews led to his ass crack. It was a path straight. You want to be free? Go like Tiss me to go straight down his back to his asshole You never seen a picture of Andrew with Brace I gotta get it up That shit was crazy

I gotta get it up I got it somewhere But now Alan and you know it's so funny Alan did it for both For all sports Like it wasn't just basketball He made all of these athletes Feel free to beat themselves

Show up Not Code Switch when they're in front of presidents You know what I mean Like he didn't He was that for all sports I saw what you tried to throw in there And that was fucked up What?

Code Switch in front of president. I'm just saying, I mean, I'm just saying. What else we got, Taylor? Let's do some, um, ads. Oh, what's that? What's that? What's that?

That's the last one, right? Speaking of, yeah, speaking of the president, well, you know, he wants to run for president. He said to me, as the American people, that you wanted me to be your nominee for the presidency of the United States of America, I have to confess to you, it is something I would consider.

I didn't say I'd do it. I didn't say I'd want to do it. Me personally speaking, whether it's... So if Stephen A. becomes president, him and Anthony Ed was getting to it. He tells Anthony his game is okay. Anthony can't react the way he reacted to Stephen A. Smith?

Yeah, Stephen A's going to have some stats and facts. You know, so interesting, man. First of all, I want to salute Stephen A. Smith. The reason I want to salute Stephen A. Smith. You're good. This is the reason I want to salute Stephen A. Smith. I want to salute Stephen A. Smith because there was a small, small window where people forgot who Stephen A was. It was when Pat McCaffee got with ESPN and got that big-ass deal, Pat, whatever, the Pat McAfee got with ESPN and got that deal.

And when Club Shayshay got red hot and then Chanishab came over to ESPN and people were acting like Stephen A wasn't still Stephen A. as if Stephen A wasn't embracing all of this shit with open arms because Stephen A knew that his time was coming. He knew that his deal was coming and everything else. Stephen A didn't, you know, talk shit about a Pat McAfee. He didn't talk shit about the Shannon Shop. He went and launched this, the Stephen A. Smith Show. And he found his lane to where...

Who stays in the headlines more? He's unbelievable. It's not even close. There's no clue. It is also interesting to see ESPN just turn into podcasts. Like every set is a podcast. Well, this isn't even ESPN. This is his show.

Oh, but it's got to be. No, no, no. He started this on his own. Oh, really? Yeah, I did this show before. He started this on his own. But it's the smart thing to do. Because when you're, if you're a Stephen A. Smith,

and this is another reason you got to get Stephen A credit. Stephen A could have just been like, you know what, look, I'm the legacy guy here. I'm going to do my thing at ESPN. But if you see Pat McAfee start his own shit, right? And then he's seeing it ends up, I mean, ESPN ends up licensing that shit from him. Shana Sharp got club Shaysay. They haven't licensed club Shaysay and they probably won. But he's the type of talent that they want over there.

It's like, why wouldn't you start this if you see. No, he's smart. Just make your value go. I mean, he was making crazy money through ESPN, but he wasn't owning any of the IP from the shows. Exactly. So to go create your own IP and own it and then you could leverage it whatever way you want. Also, he was getting a bag from them, but they were working his ass. Like, he had three radio shows.

He's in a negotiation year now. I'm aware. I'm just saying, like, he was making a lot of money, but I don't think people realize how much work it was. Like, the guy was probably working at least maybe six, seven days a week. Yeah. He's on multiple TV shows. He was ESPN for a little bit.

He still is. Meaning every single show that had any views, Stephen A. Smith was called. Now McAfee's on there. I think if they have licensed Club Shaysay. Did they license? No, no, no, no, no, I like Club Shays. He should keep his show. Yeah, because he's a lot of him.

entertainment. Yeah. The thing I like about what Stephen A. Smith is doing, though, he went and started the Stephen A. Smith show where he started talking about other things.

Politics is one of the things that he was interested in. Being that he's interested in politics, that shit has opened up a whole other lane for him to the point where a former Trump poster threw his name in the mix

to see what would happen. 2% of people said that they would vote for fucking Stephen A. Smith to be president. And now it's the topic of conversation. The Washington Post called me yesterday. We're recording this on Wednesday.

The Washington Post called me yesterday that asked me what I think about the buzz around Stephen A. Smith being the Democratic nominee in 2020. I will say this. Yesterday. You're not beating him on a debate stage. You're not beating him on a one-on-one combo.

And in every interview, so what he has is star power. You cannot beat Trump. Well, you're not going to have to beat Trump. But you cannot beat Trump unless you have star power. Say that again, no. Deniable star power. What you just said is that I got a whole thesis about this.

First of all, I'll tell you what I told to watch the post. And I'll say here, I respect Stephen A. Smith as a media personality. I respect everything that he's built. I hope he becomes the highest paid person at ESPN because he deserves to be the highest paid person at ESPN. But when you're talking about Stephen A. Smith being president, this is why we are such an unsurious country. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you look at, and this is what I always say to people. If everything is as bad as folks always try to say.

say it in, right? If everything is as bad as people say this, and then you know, I can look around and I can point the thing to say, damn, 12,000 federal workers, you know, lost their jobs, planes are falling out of the sky. I can say, yo, they're trying to dismantle the EEOC. They're doing, you know, DEI rollbacks. They're the fucking, they're firing people that work at the nuclear workers, but then trying to hire them back

and don't know how. Like, there's a lot of things you can point to, right? I can say, hey, there's a fucking a dude from another country who's in charge of how the government is paying people right now. I can say all of that. So if all of those things, why are you asking me if Stephen A. Smith is a serious candidate for president in 2022? Because they're desperate.

Not only does it make the media look unsyrious, it makes the Democratic Party look unscorous as fuck. I saw them ask Hakeem Jeffries about this. And Hakeem Jefferson is like, there's a lot of things to like about Stephen A. Smith. Leader, I have a question about messaging as well. I don't know if you've seen the buzz building about Stephen A. Smith, the ESPN personality and running for president.

I'm wondering what you make of that and what you think it might say about how effectively Democrats are messaging at this time. It's a lot to like about Stephen A. Smith, including the fact that we are both die-hard Knicks fans. Really? Haki. You're on stage

trying to tell people about what you think we're facing right now in our society. What this country is facing, right? But you're trying to really build the case. Yo, look at what Elon Musk is doing over here. Look at what Trump is doing over here. When somebody asks you about Stephen A.

being president in 2008. You say there's a lot of things to like about it. You gave it more validity. No, no, this is. But I don't get that because they got it wrong the first thing. What do you mean? Like when Trump was running, they're like, how are you taking this guy serious? How are you taking this guy seriously? And apparently the majority of the country took him seriously.

So now they're like, hey, maybe we, our pulses off. So even though we don't like what's going on, maybe we have to look outside of serious candidates for presidency. No. First of all, like, this is what show said just now, and that's the other thing. Put it like this.

Donald Trump is not running in 2008. But if he is, there's not going to be an election. If Donald Trump says right now, I'm running for a third term, guys, the fight is six. Because number one, you're not, you can't do that. So if he says he's doing it, he's already going to be president again,

so it doesn't matter. So let's assume he's not. Let's assume he's not. Now, now Stephen A. Smith, who I think is highly entertaining, we all think it's super highly entertaining. But we have to. who looked at Donald Trump in 2016.

He had no competition. Donald Trump had no real competition. There was no real competition on the Republican side. Hillary. No, she was not. No, she wasn't. No, she wasn't. No, she was not.

Every single poll had her winning. Everybody who voted on election they thought... Because the media loved liberals in 2016, and because they told us she was next up. But as soon as Bernie Sanders started to get some heat, soon as Bernie Sanders started to get some more, They shut that out. If you asked me, it seemed like the people

were leaning towards Bernie Sanders. If they'd put Bernie Sanders in that in 2016, they probably would have had a better time. Oh, I agree. I agree with that. But all the polls did have. So you clear the field of Republicans in 2016, Trump. There's really nobody on the Democratic side.

You don't even know Hillary won the popular vote. You still won the election. 2020, it's a series of unfortunate circumstances. It's George Floyd. It's COVID. It's all of these other things. Trump loses the election. He claims it was stolen.

2024, he comes back, he wins, no problem. Who did he have to really compete with in 2024? Okay. Motherbuckers was tired of Biden. Holy shit. It's a rap. And then Connolla came with 107 days. My point with all of that is,

2008 when Stephen A. Smith has to go up against real competition. There's some real competition. You may not believe. Who? Yeah. Governor Josh Shapiro. Governor Westmore. Your name.

Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Pete Buttigieg? But Shala, your name in politicians, and I think the people are trying to tell you, we don't like politicians. We want somebody who sees. Everybody I just named is a mean word smith. Everybody I just named.

Can I just say, can talk? Can I just say one thing? This is just like advice for the Democrat. Because I genuinely do believe the country is better when we have two parties that it's, It's really difficult to choose between it. My goal in life for America is that every presidential election, it's a tough choice. It's a tough choice.

And we kind of feel good with either one and maybe one issue pulls us in one direction. The issue with Democrats right now is it's hard for that. They are the party of progress, right? And that's good. Without a progressive party, we don't get progress. We don't get women voting, right? We don't get rights for everybody. We don't get environmental measures.

We don't get these things that actually benefit all of us and benefit individual groups that are oppressed, which we do need. When you're a progressive party, you want to keep pushing for more progress and more inclusivity. They're at a point right now where they don't know where the line is in terms of what they say. So when you talk to them, they're kind of like very unrelatable to hang out with. Whereas Republicans are conservative values. It's like, yo, let's back it up. Shit used to be better. make America great again, we're going to go back, right?

So they don't have to worry about offending this, I'm going to put on quotes, extreme progress, right? And the problem with Democrats right now is they can't have a convo and make jokes about pronouns because they're like, fuck, that group's going to be upset. They can have a convo and make a gay joke because like, fuck, that group's going to be upset. They can't have a combo about migrants or something like that because they're like, fuck, that's going to be upset. They can't have convo's about anything. So they're kind of standing there neutered.

They can be eloquent. They can be brilliant. They can be smart like a Buttigieg. But they can't be relatable. They can't like when Trump, when the Indian guy was asking Trump the question at the press conference and he had the strong Indian accent and Trump just went, I don't understand a word this motherfucker saying. That is relatable to every American, regardless of which sides you're on. And a Democrat would never say that. They'd be like, sir, would you mind if you could word that again in a way?

So you're absolutely right. But name me one Republican who can do that other than Trump. Oh, there's some crazy Republicans Nguyen. Name him. Nancy Mace does not give a fuck. But that's just come on. But Nancy's not running for president. There is a hundred of those types of Republicans.

You can't name them. Now, Nancy, I give you. The Gomez chick who's just straight up. I don't even know who that is. There's. Who is the Gomez chick? Bobert is another one. Nah.

I'm not telling you they're going to be president. What I'm telling you is they're wild and they'll say wild shit. And the reality is most Americans in the privacy of their home or around their friends, we're pretty wild. We like hot takes. We like talking that shit. The reason we like a guy

like Stephen A. Smith because he talks that shit. But Stephen A. A. Smith ain't going to be Trump. Like Stephen is not even going to be. You don't got to be Trump. You could be John Stewart, but you're not biting. No, no, no, no, no.

Now we talk. Oh, I would love John Smith. Nah, now you talk. But also John, John is not biting his tongue. When Tony Hinchcloth got in trouble at the DNC or whatever in New York, not even the R&C, at the, at the,

He was the first one to be like, yo, he's a roast comedian. He makes roasts him. And I love Stephen A, but he ain't John Stewart. No, I know, but no Democrat politician. I'm not talking about Democrats like people. I'm saying Democrat politician has the balls to go up there and just be normal because they're so terrified that they're going to ostracize some of their groups. They're in a very difficult position.

I really truly believe that shit is over. And if it's not, the Democrats will never win another election ever again. Oh, no. It's over for the people. And that's one of the reasons why they voted for Trump. But it's not over for the party. But the party don't make that adjustment. No, yes, I do think that there are people in the party

who know they have to make that adjustment. And you're seeing it, right? Because nobody cares about the Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem Jeffries is still operating from that old Democratic playbook. I need a Democrat to be like, yo, furries are weird. What are we talking about? You dressing up as a chicken, going to a fuck party? What the hell is going on?

Now, Josh Shapiro got to be like, yo, furries. Shultz is right. But here's the thing. There are ones that are saying that now, but it don't sound authentic because you're only saying that because of how to tie turn because you just lost the election.

It don't even mean. I honestly believe it doesn't matter if it's authentic. Whatever Democrat comes out and starts talking that shit, they will win. Or here's the other thing. And this is important to note.

But this is what the Democrats are terrified to do. They could make it a class war and win. That's what Bernie did. Bernie made it a class war. He wasn't even worried about your fucking flags and transdisc, and gay, that he wasn't even tripping on it.

He was just like, billionaires got too much money and too much influence. These corporations got too much money and influence. They're fucking overworking class people, and I want to ride for work. But that's why let me get it on. Okay. He came out. He said that. Me, you, Alex, Rogan, the whole world. At least it felt like so many

Americans were like, yo, this dude is spinning. I like this guy. This guy's from fucking Maine or Vermont. Some Jewish dude, Ravainer. Where the fuck he's from? I like this guy. I don't even care what his identities. I like what he's saying. The Democrats are afraid to do that because they're in the pockets of these billion-dollar corporations. So, since they won't talk about the class war, which is the only relatable thing they could talk about, they got to talk about these, like, tiny little microaggression shit that are so unrelatedable to the average of America.

You know who's smoking right now? Who? AOC. You don't got to love them, but she's smoking right now because she's doing exactly that. That's it. Now, now, say what you want about AOC. Say what you want about EEOC. I'm sure there's plenty of people that are critical of her. She has always ridden for working class people. And it is believable. Okay? I'm sure you can look into her past and be like,

oh, she spent one summer or a fancy or some goofy shit. But the reality is she's a girl who's worked in fucking bars and restaurants. She's very relatable. And she is fighting for working class people. That's relatable as hell. When she goes off on some like LGBTQ shit and makes that. It took the pronouns off. for a fucking social media.

She got lambasted for it, but you've got to take that. They're not even having that conversation no more, by the way. Stop. Like, don't even, don't even entertain that conversation. Don't even go on that role. If the Democrats want to win, they just ignore all the trans shit, and they talk about the class struggle. The class struggle.

And working class people. But the reality is, the majority of them won't do it. Why can AOC do it? Because I don't think she takes money from these corporations. So she can't. The rest of them that don't do it, I don't know about Josh Shapiro. I don't know if he's spoken about. I don't know about Whitmer, I don't know what she's spoken about. I don't know about these other people you're talking about, but if I haven't heard them speak

about it, there's a reason. It's because they are getting big bucks from those corporations. And if they are and unable to call them out, they will not win. They cannot relate to Americans. It's simple as that. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Americans need money for eggs, yo. I agree with everything. My wife is telling me there's no eggs.

She's like, yo, the only thing our daughter eats in the morning, she has eggs. She's like, yo, I was trying to get eggs. There's no more eggs of fucking whole. They're selling Lucy's at the bode eggs. That's what I heard. $5 an egg. You're absolutely right. But this is what I want everybody to remember about 2008.

2028 is not going to look like 2016. It's not going to look like 2020. Unless something like unbelievable happens over the next three years, you're going to get traditional Republican and you're going to get traditional Democrats. Would they be a little bit looser with their messaging? Yes.

Would they be a lot looser with who they go and sit down and talk to? Absolutely. On both sides. But do you not getting to Donald Trump? Bro, the Democrat Party, the Democratic Party, the Democrat Party right now. Republicans, too. No, no, no, regardless of what you think about Republicans,

the working class people clearly are siding with them right now. The election has showed us this. No, no, no, no. That's unequivocal data to prove it. Yeah, but have you been paying attention? The unions supported Trump. Yeah, but if you've been paying attention the last three weeks, I was in Maryland, I was going to last three weeks.

No, you've got to. 12,000 federal workers lost their job. I'm aware. I'm aware. What I'm saying is working class people have shifted or are supporting the Republican Party, right? That's what we've noticed, at least in the last election. Maybe in the last three weeks, things have changed. Yeah, Monday, hundreds of thousands of people all across the country without their protests.

Sure. Sure. Sure. I'm not saying that that didn't happen. What I'm saying is like the zeitgeist, the feeling of culture right now is that those people have shifted to the Republican Party, right? In order for Democrats to get those back, they got to speak to them. All they got to speak to their issue. All they got to do is say, yo, you want your job back?

Vote us in. No. That's not going to work. You know what they got to say is? You know what they got to say is, fuck that corporation that gives me hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't want their money. Fuck them. they have too much influence

and they're screwing you with the influence and they got to say this. There's a lot of my colleagues, Democratic colleagues, that won't say that because they're taking money from them. The second one Democrat comes out and says that,

all of us go, I trust that motherfucker. I'm with you, I'm with you. But they won't. They're scared. But they won't because they're taking the corporate money.

Ask Josh Shapiro. Listen, even your boy Bernie, and I like Bernie a lot, even Bernie, when he tried to call out Big Pharma, what's the first thing RFK Jr. said to him. What did he say?

You took money from Big Farm. Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. And protecting their interests. Oh, I thought that that would come. No, but I ran for president like you.

I got millions and millions of contributions. They did not come from the executives, not one nickel of pack money from the pharmaceutical industry. In 2020, 2020, In 2020, you were the single largest Because I have four contributions from workers all over this country. Workers, not a nickel from corporate tax.

You were the single largest except for pharmaceutical dollars. No, from workers in the industry. 1.5 million. Yeah, out of 200 million. All right. But you have not answered. Last question. You have not answered my question?

You are here telling that you, I don't care. I don't care if you take money from somebody. As long as you call him out. That's bullshit. No, I'm with you. The reason I say that's bullshit, me and Pete Buttigieg just had this conversation before. When you take money from a motherfucker,

you are beholden to them as a politician. Prove me wrong. Somebody has to show me otherwise. Like, they say that. I took money from him, but I'm not beholding him. The reason they don't like somebody like an Elon Musk right now

because as I told you all before, he's motherfucking did he. He's all up in the videos. He's showing y'all, yeah, I'm the motherfucker that spent the most on this campaign. So, yes, I have this influence. The reason they don't... He got your son in the White House

telling the president to shut his fucking mouth. The reason they don't like Elon right now. Well, there's multiple reasons. But one reason they don't like Elon right now is because they realize no matter what they say about Trump, it doesn't work. So they have to pivot to someone else. People have become numb to the criticisms of Trump.

It just means nothing. It rules about Elon is valid. But the criticisms about Elon... Because if you're an American, you have to ask yourself, how come this person who's an immigrant who's only been here 22 years has so much influence over our government?

Why is this person dictating why I have a job? Why I don't have a job? Because Americans are disillusioned with rich and powerful people. So if you do not call out the rich and powerful people, not just Elon, these other people as well, if you're not willing to call them out, we're not willing to listen. Now, the thing is when he comes out and he goes, hey, we're doing this Doge thing and we found out that, you know, we've been spending billions of dollars in Social Security payments to people who are dead and you still get criticism. Where's the evidence to that, though? I'm not saying these things aren't true, but where's the evidence? I mean, they post this. the evidence. No, they haven't. Not yet. They haven't. They haven't. He's the thing that we're just saying. Oh, they're just saying, but they have. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. Either the thing they were just saying. I'll take that back. But the perception at least is, is like, I don't know, I think people should be a little bit concerned about this, a little bit, like if you have a company, right, or you have a private investigation, whatever it is, whatever you want to call Doge, a federal investigation, into corruption in these

government agencies. The American people right now, all-time low confidence in government institutions, right? We know that for a fact. We do not trust politicians. We don't trust government institutions at all, all time low confidence. When you got a guy coming in going, you're going, I'm going to start vetting these government institutions to see if there's some corruption, if they're hiding some money. Who's vetting this guy? Hold on. Let me just get it all out. You might be logical here. I'm just telling you, like, emotionally how people are reacting. I don't trust the government. I feel like they're trying to fuck me. Eggs cost $50. This guy's coming in and going, I'm going to look into this shit because I think there's a lot of

corruption, there's a lot of waste and people are getting rich on the side on your money. The second, he says he's going to do that, you have this immediate, massive blowback on this guy, right? To me, if you also felt like the government has some inefficiencies and the government has low confidence and the government has this bureaucracy that might be getting in the way of the American people getting what they want, if you're a Democrat as well, you should go, yeah, we should look into that. We should expose any corruption, Republican or Democrat. It sounds good on his face. But if...

Real quick, real quick. Okay. If just looking into something, there's pushback, you hide and stuff. That's what I'm like. Like, for example, if somebody, if the police show up to the house, I don't think it's pushback, though. Let me, let me do it. No, there is. There's crazy.

Oh, it's not pushbag. Hold on. No, it's not perfect. If the police show up to the house, we'd like to go in your basement. And the guy's like, why do you want to go into? You can't go into my basement. No, we have a, whatever that thing is called, to look into your basement. Oh, you can't go to her basement.

As a policeman, I'm going, there's some shit in that motherfucker basement. If you are fighting- Or you just know your rights and you know that- No, but I got a warrant. I got the warrant. I got the warrant. I got the warrant. Well, he got a warrant. Yeah. But my thing- Those got a warrant. No, they don't. They have the right to do it. Who says who? The president.

And that's why he got sued. They literally sued. 14 attorney generals around the country literally sued the president saying, this is not constitutional. That's true. It's unethical. You don't have the right to do this. Why can't we look into the government institutions to see if there's waste and corruption? Why is that like, you should support this. You're paying more taxes than anybody in this room. You should want to make sure that money isn't going to some guy's pocket.

What Schultz is saying is true, but it's not the how. I mean, it's not the why. No, it's not the what, it's the how. Nobody cares that, yes, if there's waste, if there's government corruption, get an organization to go look into it. But how is it being done? How does this guy, who's not an elected official,

who's not even from this motherfucking country, Why does this guy have the authority who vetted him to say he's okay? And don't you think it's a little, come on, don't you think it's a little bit suspicious? But the president. But listen, don't you think it's a little bit suspicious that this person goes in and the first thing he does is start dismantling organizations who've been investigating his corporations? The first thing you do is start firing people and getting rid of organizations that have been investigating you and your corporation. Yeah, I think that that is very concerning. So when people say pushback, it's not.

pushback, it's concerned. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, who is this guy? Why does he get to do what he does? So then the conversation at least should be this. If I'm a Democrat, I think the American people deserve transparency with their hard-earned money that they give us. And they deserve transparency in understanding where that money is going and who's getting paid with that money and how it's being spent. They deserve that because they're busting their ass 40, 50, 60 hours a week. And that money that they are working their ass for that's not going to feed their kids, that's not going to protect their family, is going to these government agencies, they should know if there's waste there. Now, we should also make sure that the people that are investigating that are maybe part of

some sort of bipartisan coalition to make sure that there is not a singular agenda that is happening. Here's the problem when you get the bipartisan coalition. You get some Democrats that are getting paid by these fucking corporations to tell the other people in power that are in the part of the coalition. Hey, let's not investigate that. Let's keep up this little money roll that we got right here because I know I'm getting kickbacks over here, I'm getting kickbacks over here, and I'm getting

kickbacks over here. There's no way that any Democrat in government right now believes there's no corruption, there's no inefficiency, there's no money. I'm with you, but nobody's saying that. Can I say one thing real quick? I was in Hawaii. There was $12 billion spent on a rail project, and that rail hasn't moved a centimeter in the last like six years or something like that.

California. California. There was billions of dollars filled. On homeless people. on 25 billion on homeless and it got worse. And then they also had a rail project that never even got off the ground. When you're an American person, right, and you're hearing this information and you go, okay, there's billions of dollars spent on homeless, but every time I walked out of my house, there's homeless everywhere, they're doing drugs all over the place, nothing has changed.

There's billions of dollars spent on this rail project in California that never even started. There's billions in Hawaii. There's billions all over the country, and nothing's changing. You have to understand why they feel compelled to trust some guy from, South Africa. I don't know if they trust them. Okay, okay, it doesn't matter. Okay, why?

What you're saying, what you're saying? Remove trust. Remove trust. I'm all for the government efficiency thing. I'm just saying why is this guy the person that this is to do it? This is the, this is the thing. America should be ran by incompetent Americans, not incompetent fucking foreign. But they voted the guy who gave this guy the power to do it.

Tell me. They said they were going to do this before. They told us what Doge was. We didn't know it was going to be like this. So hold on. He said he's going to go through that. The Democrats and Joe Biden were in power for the last four years. They did nothing to remove this government inefficiency.

I agree. The Democrats in California have done nothing to move that. It's not a rail project. It's like a train. Go, go, go. So they did say they're actually not even reaching the amounts of cuts that they wanted to do. They were saying like they were slash like almost a thousand jobs from each, multiple thousands of jobs from each of these agencies.

They're not hitting those numbers, those quotas. But they told you exactly what they were going to do before. No, they did. Yes, they did. I'm telling you, Shala. That's not true. That's not true. They told us that they told us it. Say it.

They told us it was going to be a department of government efficiency, and they said they wanted to decrease the debt of America. They didn't say that they were going to go in and just start firing people. Well, how do you increase the debt? I don't know. But 12,000 jobs and three, come on. Listen, 12,000 jobs in three weeks, and you're firing people that you actually need and don't know it. And then when you fire them, you have to rehire them, but don't know how.

I agree with you, Matt. I agree with you, here's the thing. I agree with you. The way that they're going about it is fucked up and wrong. But we had Vivek on our podcast. Didn't Vivek said he wanted to slash agencies by two-thirds? And he was part of this dog. Wasn't Rebecca the first person to jump like this shit?

I understand. But that's what I'm saying. I don't know if he jumped off. Yeah, they kicked them up. Well, they kicked them off. But that's what I'm saying. They kicked them off. They ran on that.

He was saying, I want to slash all government agencies by two-thirds. Yes. And the American people voted that. Voted that. Yeah. And this is a government that respects the wishes of the people. Well, you know what? To your point?

To your point? To your point? Yeah, absolutely right. Because we've seen the letters that have been written to Donald Trump of people saying, I voted for you. What the hell happened? Why did I lose my job? You know what?

And that could bite the Republicans in the next election. If Democrats know how to message it correctly. Now, if it is so, well, actually, no, that's not the right to say, because you always want the best for America. What I'm trying to say is, this is not like whether this is the perfect way to do it or not. what Democrats should understand and like show me the conversation on this podcast.

I'm like trying to get Democrats to understand like what people actually think. There are people that really support this because they have no faith in these government institutions. They don't trust them, right? What I need Democrats who go is

instead of saying that these guys are assholes for doing that, the messaging should be, yes, we need to vet these things. Yes, we should have done it when we were in power and we didn't. We failed you. We failed you guys by not doing it.

But this way right here is too harsh. and it's going to hurt you. We don't want to protect corruption. What we want to do is protect you from having institutions that are not staff properly. It cannot help you. Show us.

Here's the thing. You're not wrong, but it's coming from a place of privilege. I'm going to tell you why. Not white privilege. It's just privileged. No, I get it. It doesn't affect me in the same way.

I agree. Exactly. Yeah. I was in Maryland two weeks ago and my daughter's cheerleading competition. And that's Maryland, D.C. Eric. Yeah.

That's getting hit the heart. The amount of people who walked up to me, black people, white people, Asian people telling me that they were going to lose their job probably because of what Elon Musk is doing. These people weren't Democrats, all Democrats. These people weren't all Republicans.

We were having these conversations. So whether or not they voted for this and they knew this was coming, maybe they didn't really think it was going to impact them. Just like Latinos who voted for Donald Trump didn't know they was really going to send your grandma all away. You know what I'm saying? So now we know that elections have consequences.

Yeah, exactly. But I agree, everybody does want some type of government inefficiency, but people don't want to lose their job. I know. So to your point about how people feel, that's what you tap into. Because all that other shit is too much in the weeds. All that other shit we're talking about is way too much in the week. Do I have a job or not?

And that's- Can I pay my rent this month or not? Exactly. And I think Democrats are so focused on not offending. They're so focused on not ostracizing. They're so focused on being progressive that they've lost sight of how to communicate to what people are feeling. You don't have to agree with everything we're,

publicists are doing. You can disagree with every single thing, but you've got to find a way to communicate to them in a way that taps into their feelings, and they are so far gone. And they are so far gone. And another shitty thing is there's so many people that have a lack of empathy for other people, and they don't give a fuck about all these people getting fired. They're just like, oh, shit, they're saving us some money. You know when they're going to care, Alex? When it hits them. When it hits them. Not only that could, well, no, not this talk, now this talk of, oh, they're going to take somebody's savings and give it. No, but now there's talks of they're going to take some of the savings

and give it back to the people. That's going to, everybody's going to celebrate that. That's why I love bringing it is because I said this. I said when shit hits the fan and 18 months in the economy, I said 18 months after the election, when the economy is fucked up, they just hand out stimmies again. They are ahead of schedule because they already see the civil unrest that's happening. Monday on President's Day, there's an organization called, it's 50-50 or maybe it's 51-50. There's an organization that led 50 protests throughout

all 50 states. It's ain't black people, brown people. It's just people who lost their motherfucking jobs and want to know why this dude Elon Musk is able to do what he's doing in our government. I think I know what... So what does Elon say this week after seeing this on Monday?

With all of our savings from... I'm finding all of this corruption. I'm finding all your taxpayer dollars going to bullshit. I'm going to keep doing this to make sure you all can get $5,000. Now, we don't know if this is going to happen, but what does that does? It pacifies people. Now they're like, I'm going to get my

$5,000. Not only am I will get my $5 grand, oh, he's fine and all this corruption? Yeah. What is going on with our taxpayers? It's called politics. He's playing politics. Well, well, well, well, the political game is great. This is what I think happens. I think that there's a lot of data that has shown that, like, the economy is much better for

working class people historically under democratic rule. Yes, it's World War II. Okay. So we can't deny that, right? Like, that's just data and that's facts. And we're obviously in a privileged position, but I think both of us at least come on this podcast and we come from middle class or less than middle class. And we still talk to people. And we actually want those people to have the same opportunities that we had to rise above, right? So that is our, that's where we're coming from, right? This is what I think sometimes happens with, with Democrats is, and Republicans too, but I think we've seen a little bit of Democrats. I think Democrats, they, they, they, they,

think they know what's best for people. So they're like, I know what they think they need, but just like, let us handle this. We got you. They talk about people they never talk to. Yes, yes, exactly. And the problem with that is,

you might know what's good for somebody. But if you don't know how to convince them that that is what's good for them, they resent it regardless. And you know what? And Republicans, they might not even be pushing shit that's actually good for people.

We don't know. They can't. But they know how to tap into what people think they want. Because all they're saying is you're broke. Exactly. You're broke. Exactly. But what a broke person doesn't want is somebody in government to be like,

yes, you're broke, but it's way better to be broke with us than with them. What someone who's broke wants is, the reason you're broke is because these billion dollar corporations aren't paying you enough. And the reason you're broke is because your tax money is getting stolen in sense of foreign wars. The reason you're broke is because all these other the reasons.

And there's migrants to take any money. I always say rich people have convinced poor people. Well, that's what I honestly say people. The rich white man has convinced the poor white man that the liberal white man is taking all that money and giving it to these niggas. But I don't just mean when I say the N-word, I'm just not talking about black people. Now it's the migrants and everybody. It's these marginalized group that's not from you.

is coming over here and taking what's yours. Yes. And that is what Republicans have done a great job of convincing a good people. And I think that something Democrats can learn is there's one thing like, let's say they know, let's say they truly believe that their policies are right. We know that some of their policies are not right. We've seen what happened in California. We've seen what happened in plenty of liberal cities that some of the policies that might have

had the best intentions. 25 billion spent on homeless people in California and the homeless problem got worse. you know what? It was with the right intention. We're not saying it wasn't with the right intention. You want to help those people? Well, I'm going to operate in good faith. Okay. I'm going to go, I think they wanted that to happen. And then it got in the hands of some very like shady, fucked up people and they didn't execute on that. Right. Okay. So we can at least acknowledge it. That's fine. The Democrats have to, one, take that L. They have to, Newsom got to go, yo, we didn't do it good with the homeless. That we fucked up and you have every right to not trust us.

the American people wanting Doge to look into government inefficiency is a direct result of government inefficiency of hearing $12 billion went to homelessness and more people became homes. Like, you have to at least acknowledge that under your watch, that shit happens. And they're not willing to do that. They just go, Elon, bad, too much power over there.

Well, when you had all the power, $12 billion went to homelessness and more people got homeless. By the way, what I was looking up, because I was reading about this the other day, This isn't the first time this happened, right? Like this happened, President Bill Clinton did this. He took steps to address government inefficiency. He had this thing called the National Performance Review,

later named the National Partnership for Reimventing Government. It was led by Vice President Al Gore in 93. He aimed to make the federal government leaner, more efficient, and more customer focus. And it was the same thing. Cut bureaucracy, reduced the federal workforce by over 377,000 employees, making it to small since the 60s,

cost savings. NPR claimed to have saved over $136 billion by eliminating waste, streamlining processes and reducing unnecessary regulations. Technology and innovation encouraged e-government initiatives, such as putting more services online. Federal agencies were asked to focus on measurable outcomes rather than just processes, but the way they did it was the legal way. Like they put together a regime to go do it, and then they vote.

When they found out the inefficiency, they voted on it. Bipartisan legislation was created to do this. These guys are bypassing Congress. got four years. But I'm saying he's not doing it the right way. So it's not the what, it's the how. The worst. Y'all, and nobody disagrees.

The worst thing for the Democrat Party right now would be if it actually works. The worst thing for the Democrat Party is if the debt does go down. To be honest with you, the worst thing, you're right. But honestly, the worst thing that could happen is he long is up to $5,000 giving it a check. Oh, it's over.

He got them $5,000. That's what I'm saying. It's a rat. It's a rat. And by the way. be bad for a while. Imagine what people will feel when they go, by the way, this isn't us giving you

money. This is us giving you your money. Your money back. You deserve it. Listen, from a, from a political, they are playing from a political marketing perspective, it's genius. Because they understand what people are feeling and the Democrats, instead of crying about all this and labeling him big bad man

and all this other stuff, they should really be paying attention to what the American people are feeling and finding ways for their policies to have messaging that taps into what Americans are feeling. Don't gaslight them. I'm with you. Just you have to understand what they're feeling and then implement policies that tap into that. And I want to be clear on what I just said.

Bill Clinton's efforts to improve government efficiency were primarily carried out through executive action, internal reforms, and bipartisan legislation rather than a sweeping law. So in 93, Clinton launched the NPR, which was led by Al Gore. He didn't need congressional approval for that. It was reducing ways cutting the red tape, making agencies more government-friendly. They cut federal jobs. They streamline procurement and improved digital government services. While the NPR itself wasn't legislation, Clinton worked with Congress the past key bills that reinforced his efficiency goals.

That's what folks want. They want democracy. This doesn't look like democracy. It looks like an oligarch came into the motherfucking White House, said, this is what I want. do. Fuck you, Congress. We're going to get rid of all of these people, do something about it. You know what you got to look at is why are we here? Why are we at a point where we trust some guy from South Africa that sends Rock? It's not because the Democrats, it's to the both. It's because government has failed us forever. Yes, sure. Republican and Democrat. Why are we at a point

where we trust a guy from South Africa and a guy who is in real estate and was the star of the apprentice? How disillusions with government are we? How stupid have we been? How stupid have we become. No, I don't think it's, so that's the, that's the shit that kills Democrats. If we don't continue to do what they tell us, we're dumb. Hey, bro, you call me dumb as much as you want. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. Before I'm dumb, I'm hungry. I'm with you 100%. I'm broke and I'm hungry. So basically these two motherfuckers are talking my language. Say, talk to my language. Because you stopped talking my language. You kept telling me I was dumb when I told you I'm hungry. By the way, we know this. I wrote a whole, I wrote a whole chapter about it in my new book. I know. We're trying to help

And another thing people complain about, oh, nothing gets done in government. It takes so long for anything to happen in government. So they came in and they heard you and they're like, you know what? We're going to get shit. But you know what's so interested about all of this? They're really speaking to what. I'm not saying anybody in this room is wrong. I'm just saying that when we have these conversations, we're always just speaking to one side of the issue.

Because everything we're saying is true. But if you just got fired, if you wanted these 12,000 people that just lost your job, or one of these people that sitting around thinking you about the thing, to be on the chopping block, you don't give a fuck. Because guess what? As soon as you lose your job, guess who you are? Yeah. The motherfucker that's hungry and the motherfucker that wants to eat. So it's really just

So they should vote. So they should vote differently. But they should vote in the next election. You should absolutely do that. And it sucks for those people, and I hope that they have good severance packages. I hope that they're going to be okay. It does suck. But at the same time, they should look at this and they should vote. And who knows? Who knows

what might happen? And if you did vote Republican, How do you, how do the Democrats convince you that they're your answer? Because this is what I've been saying. It's clear like the, it's clear the Republicans are going to fumble. 11 recessions have happened. By the way, the way we're going now, Alex, it's still going to be a recession. Elon Musk already said this.

He said it's going to be very brutal and then things are going to get better. We're a for the moment people. Nobody wants to go through the brutal of it all. Yeah, hunger is in the moment. Exactly. So you know that they're going to fumble, but do the Democrats have the team to recover the ball? Well, let's see. I don't know.

I think they need some people that are that are outside of the party in order to disrupt. Trump was outside the party, and then he made the entire party morph to him. Democrats will not be able to do this with someone inside the party. It is not possible. It's not physically possible. They need someone outside the party who can disrupt the party and change the party and make it become a complete new identity that people can have faith in. I would have agreed with that in 2020.

I agreed with that in 2024. I don't know if I agree with that. that in 2028. All depends on how Trump does. Exactly. If all the wars are done, if the debt goes down. If Trump does well, it don't even matter. That's what I'm saying. If all the wars are done, the debt goes down. He's handing out five grand from savings. So your money back in your pocket. What he's a lot? If he's alive, if he's alive, whoever he says to vote for is winning the election. It's not even if it works out. If it works out. Yeah. But. And if it doesn't work out,

the Dems will get it back. And they'll be like, I'm going to be. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. If it doesn't work out, it's going to be this party did all this fucked up shit to you. It's going to be a- Democrats can message that. All you got to say is look what they did.

They can do that. I'm with you. They did that in 2020. They were able to do that in 2020. Exactly. That's how they wanted to. Look what he did. He caused all this.

This is the problem. I'm with you. Vote against this. But to everybody's point in this room, people got to feel it. If they don't feel it, if shit, shit got to go. I mean, shit got to hit the fan. Yeah. In 2020, it felt like shit was bottom of the barrel.

We were in the motherfucking house. Motherfuckers wanted to get outside. You know, it was riots in the street. Shit got to be like that. If it's just okay. I'm talking about small things. $3,000 stimulus checks here and there. You know, some money is being able to be saved here and there.

Some wars are stopped here and there. If it's just a little bit, Republicans are winning. If I'm a Democrat politician right now, I am championing the victories of the Trump administration when they happen. In other words, if Doge does find incredible government inefficiency and does save money, I am championing that.

If the wars have stopped, I am championing that. And I am messaging that I am not going to be this, like, partisan hack that's just going to ride the company line. What I'm going to do is, when the other side gets something that's good, I'm going to fucking say that from my chest

and say, we should have done that shit. That's fire. And I'm telling you, all these disillusioned Democratic voters, myself included, are going to go, ooh, that's, I like this guy over here. What's one of my favorite lines that I've been saying, you know, if you lie to people about Democrats, they won't tell you, they won't believe you when you tell the truth about Republic. Yeah. So it's the same thing. Yes, when they do something good, you should, motherfucker, you should say it. I, 100%, um.

And right now it's too early to tell. Say again? Right now, it's too early to tell. We don't know. It's too early to motherfucking tell. We got here by talking about Stephen A. Smith, I want you to know that. That's why he's the goat, bro. No, because we got away from talking about him.

And not once, and all of that beautiful soliloquy did you say he was the answer? I don't think Stephen A. Smith is the answer. And that's all, this is why, by the way, let me tell you. It's too early to tell you. This is why podcast is the greatest medium ever. Because we just said a lot of shit. I'm sure people got a lot of jewelry from that over the last 25 minutes. Yeah.

But we could have just said that from the beginning. We don't think Stephen A is the one. Yeah. But nope, that's not what Pottin is about. Nah. That's not what Pottin is about. But to your point, just to put a button on it, I would love to see John Stewart run.

Oh, my God. I'm not even going to lie. I'll be the dream. Like, we have all of these conversations about what celebrity should. It ain't even that John Stewart is a celebrity. I just think John Stewart would make a damn good politician. Because he wants to help people. He wants to, he's done it.

He's used his platform to actually get legislation puts. There's nobody. better with messaging. He'll kill you in a debate. He's not... When I look at John Stewart, that is a person who I'd be like, yo, God wants you to be president. God wants you to be governor.

Something. Did you see him when he was talking to that lady, I forget, what was it? Jen Sacking. Yeah, he was talking about the audits. He's like, so what is in government audit or whatever? She's like, oh, that's when they check to see if all the money is going to the right places, whatever like that. And he's like, well, why hasn't one ever been completed to satisfaction? Or something like, I'm

butchering this. And then she's like, oh, well, you know, because certain reasons. So he's like, so it's never happened. So you're not auditing the spending. So there could be spending that's going in places that we have not approved. And then she's just kind of there frozen. He's a Democrat. Because she knows it is. Thank you. That's not disagree. Everything you're saying, that's why people are going to let that South African motherfucker run up in these agencies. But no, but I will say that. Because they're lying. I'm going to be honest with you. And I can't believe I'm saying this is a black man. I don't like that. You don't like what? An African running a process.

I don't like, like, listen. Like, at some point. And by the way, that's the other reason Democrats can't say anything. There's a lot of things Democrats can't say. They can't call out the billionaires. The people are taking money for being billionaires because a lot of them are doing it.

They can't motherfucking call out Elon Musk because they're the pro-immigration party. We all are. But I don't want him in our shit. Who made him qualified to do this? The non-political, like, Democratic, what are they called? What are they called?

Like the people that are like stump for Democrats. Shills. Yeah. The non-politician Democrat Shills are not relatable in any way, right? They're like Harvard, Yale educated. Mark Cuban. Okay.

Mark Cuban, I think, is a different one. I think he's somebody who's like actually earned and he's created his own line. But so many of them are these like Harvard, Yale educated, like, nepo babies who are out here telling you, like, how to live and how you should vote when they've never had a real job in their life. And they're like the darlies. It's like, how did the party of the working class become fourth generation nepo babies? Like, that's who we're looking to, to tell us how to think. And that's why we love Clinton because the way he was from.

That's why we loved Obama. Obama wasn't so bad. He didn't have so much baggage. I don't want some fucking. Every time they go towards celebrities and the celebrities are making videos like that shit is, it turns me up. Bro, there was this, son, there was this, there was this like Kennedy grandson that was talking shit about me. And because we had, like, JFK's grandson or something. Okay. I forget this guy's name. And he was like talking shit about me.

It's like all on TikTok and everybody's like, yes, queening him and yes, queening. It's like, that can't be the poster child for the part of the working people. The guy who's never earned anything in his life. The guy who's born on third base thinks he hit a triple. the guy who gets into Harvard and Yale, not off of merit at all because daddy built a library or granddaddy built a library

or great granddaddy built a library. That can't be your poster job because the working class people look at that kid, right? Who is a, I think he's a journalist, a political journalist for Vogue. Esteemed political outlet Vogue. They look at this kid,

the working class people, and they go, fuck you. How dare you tell me how I should think? You never worked a day in your fucking life. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I'm just, you, these people, I mean, I feel a little bad for the kid because he's like, he had like

a mental breakdown. Like, he's like, he's, he's mental illness. And I have a lot of mental illness. But he should, but wait a thing. No, no, I'm in all serious. Like, he's, that's not your fault, though. No, exactly. No, but I have, like, that's the thing about mental illness is like, mental illness don't care if you're, if you're a trust fund kid. No, I don't care if you're broke or if you're a trust fund. But that's what I was going to say to Alex, like, you know, I can't discredit celebrities. I can't discredit this Kennedy kid because they're still Americans at the end of the day. No, they are. They have the right to speak.

What I'm saying is if you're a party, you go, yo, shut the fuck up. Like, you can't tell working class people what to do because you never worked. You never had a real job. You never earned anything in your life. But is he everything. Oh, so he's actually like a pundit. He's a, yeah, he's like one of these like TikTok, yes queen. He's an influential.

Like, yeah. Okay. That's not who you want to rally behind. A mentally ill, trust fund nepo baby that's never had a real job in his life cannot be like the poster child for the party. Those are the kids you go, yo, you're rich. You never done anything with all the people. privilege you had, why don't you shut the fuck up?

Well, let them talk, just don't amplify it. Just go to Cape Cod and shut your mouth. Yeah, that's what you do. Let them talk just don't amplify them. No, no, everybody's allowed to speak. But what I'm saying is if you're the party, you're going, okay, maybe we should go back to, like, actual people who were. So listen.

Like, AOC is way more relatable to the working class people. So to that point, why listen to Elon or Trump then? That's how delusional we've become. Think about that. The American people have nobody. So they're looking at a billionaire like Trump and relating to him. Think about that. Like, what's happened?

They're looking at a guy like that. Like, Elon obviously came from a lot of money and success. But they feel so not met by their concerns because they're tired of, like, Democrats going, finger wagging, go, oh, you're so dumb for not understanding what we're saying. I'm sorry, you weren't educated over at Harvard or Yale or Brown. You're just not sophisticated enough to understand intersectionality and all this shit. It's like, bro, how much are eggs?

That's all I can. Yeah, so, you're not wrong, but it's hard to say. And I think people give Elon. a little grace because they see what he's done thus far. What he's done? Tesla, SpaceX. That ain't got shit to do with our government. But they're like, hey, this guy from, he can take a company and make it bigger.

Maybe he can take our government and improve it. Like, I think he's actually done things in life. He's not just resting on the laurels of his father's name. He's actually created things that have changed the world. So you look at somebody like that. And I understand why somebody who is really hurting and desperate and sees somebody become the richest human being on Earth and develop all these companies. and go, well, maybe he could do something to help me.

I can see why that person might have a little bit of hope. I don't know. I'm with you, but I don't think people look to Elon for that. I think they look to Trump for that. You see why they have some hope there. Yeah, and to see Trump take a back seat, which is the other thing that should be very concerning to people. He's willingly taking a back seat.

He's doing interviews where he's sitting down while Elon is standing up and letting Elon control the room. He's 80 years old. He's like, all right, let his mom. That's what it feels like. Or he's like... He got the norahling shit in his head and fucking Elon's control.

Right? I mean, it could be that. It could be not. Now, now, that's funny. That's what, no. I'm not being joking. I'm not joking. That's a good movie.

That's a good movie. That's a good movie. That's a good movie. That's good. Or he could just be like, hey, Elon, you do all the talk and you take all this heat. Yes.

And I'm just going to champion the world. Yeah, absolutely right. What did I say? What did I say? I said? What did I say? That word that ends. Is it it? No.

What did I say? When I said... Dickey, you say a lot of things get cut out, so... When I was talking about what's going to end up what happened with Elon. Oh, yeah, yeah.

But I don't think that's going to happen because I think he likes someone else taking the hits. Yeah. I think Trump likes being loved and taking none of the push-back. It is interesting, though, because they asked him

is J.D. Vance's his successor, and he said, no. So it's like, what is the way? It might not be. The Baron ain't going to be ready to run? No. Who let they change shit to make it 21? Who don't? And we don't know what J.D. wants.

J.D. might not want to be present. He's a savvy motherfucker. That mother. He's a silly. Watch out for that mother. Hey, you want to talk about somebody? No, he ain't savvy. No, no, no, no. He's a savvy. He's been smart enough to shut the fuck up. Well, since they got in the white house. Here's the thing about him. And this is why you got to take him very seriously. That kid grew up poor. Yeah.

Very difficult households. Rises out of real poverty. and a very troubling situation goes to Yale navigates like Ivy League Yale when you're in no school it's like a lot in nepotism there's a lot of different like you're not welcome here type shit

he's socially intelligent enough to navigate that world while also having like enough connections back back home to put out that film right what was the film he put out the book hillbilly what hillbilly energy hillbilly something

hillbilly whatever they know Hillbilly Island The movie gets put out, ends up becoming part of government. Like, this guy knows how to navigate social situations very well. What does he actually believe? I don't know. Jury is still out on that. Hillbilly elegy.

Hillbilly elegy. So what does he do? I don't exactly know. And I think he's savvy enough to kind of go wherever the wind takes him. But do not take that guy lightly is what I will say. So I had mold and become a completely different person. I didn't. He shit all over Trump.

He's shit all over Trump and then becomes his running mate. Yeah, but that's the Republican way, though. It doesn't matter what it is. You have to have a level of emotional intelligence to cross that very treacherous water to get to the other side. The only reason I push back on that a little bit is because that's what politics are. Democrats don't realize that. Democrats will cannibalize their own and then say fuck their own forever. Republicans will go out there, do all of that shit like that.

But when it's time to click up. It's wrestling. That's it. That's why they say Republicans fall in line. Democrats fall in love. Like that. And the other reason I think JD did so well at the debate, and I told Tim Walves this actually,

is because he was out there battle test. Tim Wall wasn't on Sunday morning news every Sunday, taking the hits, answering the questions. Even if he was sounding stupid or whatever, he was just out there sharpening this war, sharpening this war, sharpening this war, sharpening this war. So when it came time for that debate, he's ready to go. Like, I got beat up in the media. You ain't never dealt with none of this.

Yeah. Tim Walls never recovered from that debate. No. Like, from that debate on, it was like, why does she pick this guy again? Why didn't she go with Shapiro? Yeah. I mean, he's just fucked up because he lied. You can't be a liar.

Like, and if you are a liar, you got a lie good. Lie good. He didn't even lie good. Republicans are more sincere about their lies. You lie about shit that don't even make sense. Democrats are about their truth. He was like, I was on the bus of Rosa Parks. And when you get, like, there's no way.

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Salute the Pretty V. Let's get back to the show. A-Sap Rocky, not guilty. Yo. That's, that's, so, so I haven't been really following the trial. What's, was it pretty obvious that this guy was setting him up? Like, explain how something like this happens. Pretty obvious the guy was lying.

A'sab Rocky had a prop gun Right, so he had a prop gun that he had For music videos that he said he would carry around I guess not scare people But for some form of protection Right And I guess he can't carry a real gun Because he's got priors or whatever

But also I don't know why he just wouldn't hire arm security But they got the guy ASab Rely On a phone call Basically saying he was trying to extort Asap And when the guy said to him I'm like, yo, this is, you know, you can't, you know, say, hey, if you give me this, I won't testify, whatever, whatever.

Something that's, you can play the call tail if you got it. But I'm like, basically, and the Raleigh is like, well, I don't want to do that because that's like a crime. He knows what he's attempting to do. And he's on a phone call saying, like, you know, if I, you pay me, I'll just disappear to an island or some shit like that. And then it's like, he calling. I forgot.

I don't know who he was on the phone with. Are these jail calls? No, he was out. He was out. But they know they're being recorded. The guy recorded him. The guy recorded him. And they said he committed perjury on the stand because they had videos saying that, you know, he was at a shooting range in LA.

And he was like, I never was at a shooting range in LA, but they got video of him at the shooting range in LA. Then when they played the phone calls back for him, he was like, that's not real, those are fake. You could just tell it with some bullshit. You could tell it was a shakedown for some money. There was an altercation clearly, but not guilty. I think that's the right verdict. Well, it must be the right verdict that the guy's lying, right? That's what it seemed like to me, and that's what they say now.

They say now he might be facing charges of perjury. Who? Relly. Yeah, really. You know, don't go lying on people, man. Bro, that's the world we live in. Oh, yeah, play that. That's the car right there, Taylor.

Play that. That's it. It's right. You want to do more. You'll be here. Yeah, maybe. But I couldn't really hear the same. But the comment is, that man said,

It's an AI with him. How do we stop that? Stop what? Like, can't you say now in court if there's any recording of you that it wasn't you that was just an AI? How do you figure out if something is AI? I've heard AI calls. They don't sound like this.

Got it. There must be like a metadata. Yeah, it's like they don't, I don't think we're there yet. Yeah. Not yet anyway. Wow. Well, good for ASAP, man. Or good for Rocky.

Issa. Good for Rock. Could you imagine having to leave around? And your kids And your kid Yes Yes absolutely What a kid

What a kid What a kid they're concerned about Yeah Yeah yeah Yeah That's what you meant to say Of course Yeah

Yeah You're family You're family man You're family man Can you imagine? Can you imagine Can you imagine The way he dove over that banister

You god damn right I'm gonna I want to be in the safest arms on the planet I don't know if that's his mom and his sister and Rihanna. I don't know who that is, but these are clearly women that love him.

I want to be with y'all. Mama, I will listen to you for the rest of my life. I promise you I'm never talking to these YNs ever again. So what is Aesap do now? I don't know, man, because I think it's very disrespectful that Aesap got found not guilty and people will immediately start asking for a Rihanna album.

He's a rapper. Y'all don't want to hear nothing from AASAP. I'm listening to people. They're like, yeah, now maybe Rihanna will drop album. What about him? He's the one with the story to tell. Like, he just fucking beat a case where he was about to go to jail for 24 years and y'all won another Rihanna album?

No, that's crazy. You ain't wrong, but I want another Rihanna. Yeah. You see what I'm... How disrespectful is now. We do need a Rihanna album. We do need a little Rihanna album right now. He had A.S.b album, like, two years ago, he dropped him.

I don't remember. But he got a whole new story to tell. I fuck it. I like A.S. I've always fucked with A-Sep. I think he's just a... He's always been a gentleman, man. How'd they prove it was a prop gun?

he said what? How'd they prove it was a prop gun? I don't think there was no bullet. Yeah, there was no bullets. Like the guy said he got shot. He got shot in his hand. There was a mark, but they're saying, hey, that could have happened from anything. And I think other people testified that it was a prop gun.

There was a noise. There was a pop. But it could have been the prop, though. I don't know, to be honest with you. Yeah. Shout out America. Yeah. You know, America is really the best country in the world, man.

But I knew, listen, when ASAP said, yo, I'm not taking this plea deal. I was like, yo, he's either insane or he knows something we don't know. Somebody, I saw maybe 50 posts about it or something, but it was like the charge, like the amount of time he should get if he was convicted guilty and what they were offering with the plea kind of showed the hands of the prosecution. In other words, they were offering like a really light sentence compared to what he should have gotten. And usually when you offer that, it kind of shows that the, the what's it called doesn't have,

what is it called? The prosecution doesn't really have a strong case. So once they felt that the prosecution does have a strong case. Because I guess there is no way to prove that the injury happened from the gun. I could have got it anyway. Yeah. Like you got to prove you didn't have it You hung out with the guy with the prop gun

And immediately afterwards you had it And if you don't have pictures and shit to show that And that's balls you on their end So he just shoots him like on purpose in his hand He didn't shoot him No, the allegation Oh yeah Like they were having an altercation

And then ASAP takes out a gun Because he felt disrespected by something going on Said and then In the hand he shoots him No no I just he just shot at him And it just happened to hit his hand Yo man And not guilty.

Yeah, not guilty. I don't know what the fuck happened. Not guilty. I'm not going to sit here and act like I was following it. I just did it today. No, they just have a video on it. Yeah, but you couldn't really see on the video what was going on. They got a video of the gun? Like you just see them tough.

Like you just see them with a gun? No, no, no, I've seen the video. Yeah. You did it? Yeah. But it's clearly a prop gun. Yeah. I didn't even see it.

It's clearly a problem. I just saw him do his fingers. Yeah. If you listen to the podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too.

It's a brilliant idiotic podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.