The Brilliant Idiots - Wicked

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

This week on Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne and Schulz break down Knicks Vs.Spurs, KAT finally shutting up his critics, why Wembanyama might be getting crowned too soon, and whether a sweep is actually on the table. Then things get murky: Charlamagne explains why he called DJ Akademiks with a heads up about a coordinated smear operation. They close out reacting to Jay-Z's surprise freestyle at the Roots Picnic. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠⁠ Jess Hilarious - Til Death Do We Parent - ⁠Pre Order⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God - ⁠⁠Pre Order⁠⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel -⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks- By Charlamagne Tha God - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz - ⁠⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" - ⁠⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠⁠ Checks out AlexxMedia ⁠AM Mornings⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yeah, Charlotte made the guy. Andrew Shull. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Helichael Walker. How are you? Feels good. Feels good, man.

Feels good, as expected. You know, this is what I said last week. I hate to come in with that energy. Nixon's in six. Six. Nicks and six. Why would we wait that long? Well, listen.

Nicks haven't lost. I'm with you. 12 straight games. How would we start losing? It doesn't make sense. I'm with you. I'm going to give the spurs some respect, though. I think that the spurs can get two.

I actually think I think it's further one game three and five I think it's a You think it's a sweet I think it's this Yo the Knicks My boy Joey Avery said this really well It's like the Knicks got a great chin

Well You could you could come at them You could hit them as hard as you want And they're just gonna fight And stay in there They were down 14 And then ended up tying it At the end of the third

If you win the third quarter I think a lot of times You're gonna end up winning the game And they've done this Throughout the playoffs Listen I don't understand why the Knicks have gotten so disrespected in the finals. I don't understand why

it's too... Because they love to hate us. Coming in the game one, it was two to one odds against the Nick. They love to hate us. I don't understand why they loved to hand us. We haven't won shit. You should be ruined for us. I think the Knicks suffer from the same thing Democrats suffer from. Oh, are we already going to do this? Yes. Can we just have some fun

with something that unites the world? This is fun. This is fun. Have some fun with something. Because you can be a good candidate, right? You can even be a great candidate, but you're a part of a party that has such a bad brand. It's the same thing Eastern Conference. Okay. You can be a team like the Knicks that is clearly in the playoffs been head and shoulders above everybody else in the league, but everybody's just like,

but the West. But it's the Eastern Conference, so they're not going to do anything against these Western teams. These Western teams are just so much better. Not saying that's how people feel about the Republican Party. I'm just saying that you can suffer from being a part of a brand. They got better branding. You're saying the West got better branding. The West got better branding. The West got better The West got better branding because the West have had more champions over the last, what? It's been a while, right? I got to see. It's been a while.

The Conference has always been. Boston won a couple of years ago. But probably if you look at the last decade, it's probably been mostly Western Conference. By the way, I don't know why the Western Conference has that type of fucking. I mean, the Western Conference has some incredibly elite teams. They have. You had the Warriors Dynasty, like Lakers are playing well. You have O.K.C.

Denver shit Denver yes man Houston had a nice little run like there was obviously a lot of teams in the west but listen this New York Knicks team is tough that's the thing that it's like

what do the Knicks fans always appreciate it maybe to a fault it's toughness and they're tough they're mentally tough we shot like shit in the first half couldn't buy a bucket so the Knicks team is incredibly tough

and it has two things that are very important a real superstar We have a real superstar who in the fourth and the second, by the way, but in the fourth took over when he needed to take over. Yes. And we have real role players that step up in the playoffs. A lot of times teams have role players that are regular season role players and they get into the playoffs and you can't put them in the game. And I'll be honest, Nick Scott, maybe a couple of those and that's why the lineups have gotten short.

But you look at a guy like Josh Hart who maybe had a couple buckets the whole game, 15 boards. Yeah. An absolute menace on the glove. That was the difference. No, you know who the difference was? Mitchell Robinson. No. Cat?

Oh, yeah. Cat was bowling. All the cat haters? Cat was bawling. No, no. Cat did what he was supposed to do. I'm saying all the cat haters start the regular season.

Right. This is game one against the alien. Game one against Goliath. Game one against the future of the Ohio. Well, that's what they're talking about, Wemby. And Kat. I know why.

We're going to get them. We're going to get them. But let me just build it up. And Cat has been this big who is historically the best shooting big man in history. So he actually want to look at the numbers. Not even so he says, you just want to look at the date. Everybody goes, oh, Dirk, Dirk, no, no, no, the numbers say Kat.

One of the most talented big men. And then you meme them up and you make fun of him, et cetera, that. This guy came up and showed the fuck out this playoffs and specifically in this game. Carried the Knicks when nobody on the team could buy a about. By driving, he's going from the outside. He did a lot of his games. Let me don't want to handle that.

But I don't think people. People don't want him at the top of the key. People don't question the cat's game. They question the sass. Well, they did question. It's just a little, a little sats. They question toughness and they question defense. It's because when you do this on the court,

they're going to question your toughness. You can't have the limp wrist, bro. You can have dildos in your pockets. If you played the way that you played in game one right there, I don't give a flying fuck. He was on fire on both ends, mind you. Yeah, and Wimby's going to be fatigued this whole series because you've got to play the top of the key

because cat can play out there. Then you're running around trying to chase guards around. Then you got to go down there and bang with guys like Mitchell Robinson, who should get a lot of credit. He's out there with a broke finger. There was times when Mitchell, I remember one part of the game, Mitchell dumped, and he missed it. He was like, you could tell. He thought they're playing with a broke fucking finger.

Bro, that's a big zesty. Is that real? That's not, right. That's not real. No, it's not really. That shit is putting on nail polish. Yo, that should be his merch. Stop hating.

Stop hating. Is this AI? Yes, it's AI. Okay, and this is absolute hate from a Sixers fan. That was crazy. That was crazy. Get out of here. Y'all are in Cancun right now.

I don't want to hear about it. But I got the Nixon six only because, and here's the other thing. You said they got a chin, not just a chin, a grown chin, an adult chin. When you think about the Knicks, I'm serious. It just feels gay. I don't even know what's not because you just finished looking at cat.

It's a grown chiep. An adult chin. Those are men, experienced men. And they go out there with a younger young kids. Yeah, that's right. That's right. San Antonio is talented. They got those four or five guards that are just relentless.

But listen, you got veterans on the Knicks. who are not afraid of the moment. Nah. Shamit coming in this playoffs. Shammett missed, I think, maybe his... 11 or 12 from Cleveland. Yeah, but he missed, like, his first few shots. And he just kept shooting.

He kept fucking shooting. He was both to do. Start to splash. Lockdown on D. And another thing is Champagne, I think his name is. Champagne. But it's Champany, I think, is how to pronounce it. It should be, but I think they pronounce his Champany.

Anyway, New Yorker, so, like, there's a little part of me that has, you know, some love for him, but, you know, for this series, we can have to separate that. But he was on fire first half, and the Knicks made the change. They're like, all right, we're not leaving him alone. We're locking that guy down. They locked it down. Like, that third quarter comeback was unbelievable.

And then keep in mind, in the fourth, San Antonio went up one. Yeah. Knicks were up 10, I think. And then San Antonio came back, went up one. They made their run. Nicks, grit, toughness, thugged it out. And then they end up winning by 10? I'll tell you something else.

If you watched the game, it looked like it was about to be a blowout early on. With the Knicks in the first quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then the Knicks just got a little bit cold, and then they had to make some adjustments. But I think they win game two as well. Yeah. I think they win game two.

I think a sweep is very possible, guys. It's definitely possible, but I think Spurs win three and five. I think the Spurs are talented enough to win three and five. But if it's a sweep, even better. This is what I really want. You know why it's better? Why?

Because that game four. But that's what I want. And Madison. So it's game six. Yeah, but I want it in four. Listen, listen, I just want it. It's the garden. Yeah.

Here's the thing, man. Talk to me. Talk to me. When you show me the chaos. Oh, it's great. When you show me what it could be. Okay. There's a part of me that's just like, I want to see.

You want to see it? All I'm saying is, it's going to be a riot. Not in a bad way, though. No, it's a good way. It's going to be bad. It's going to be bad. But insurance will cover it. Can we tell the truth, though?

Yeah. And this is me hating as a Sixers fan. The next fans, they're doing too much. You want to fuck up. Formative. It's become performance. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You think so?

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Yeah. First of all, we're allowed to. Okay. We've endured this shit for decades. They haven't won a championship since 1973, Chris.

We haven't even been to the finals in 2399. I mean, I'm familiar with that pain. I'm a Sixers fan. Okay. But we're not talking about you. Right. We're talking about us. And what I'm telling you is when you're in this position,

as a sixer fan, you're going to be the same way. This is years of pent up frustration. And keep in mind, we sell out the garden every single night. Every single night we're showing up, despite not winning for five decades. We're allowed to celebrate, man. We're allowed to wear it with our chest. It's not like we're fair weather fans. I think there's only two cities in America.

Maybe even really one that. I'm really thinking about it. There's only one city in America that is an actual character. And that's New York. New York is a character. Philly's not a character. Philly's a city. New York, the city is an actual character.

No, it doesn't. Boston is not... I don't like it. No, Boston has a city. They got a character. No, they... What's their character? It's the white guy.

No, no, no. You can imagine... When I say New York, a picture comes in your mind. Exactly. If somebody with you Tim's on, that's number one. Right. Right? And you just know New York in your mind.

Even in movies and TV shows, New York, the city is a character. I can't think of any other cities that have that. That are an actual character. With the 10, how they did the... Yes. Boston? Get the fuck out of here. Some white guy who's into Red Sox and Celtics.

Yes. There is a... The Boston sports fan is a thing. There's a version of it, but I don't think it's internationally known. I think there's a culture. I think Boston has a culture. And New York has a culture, but New York also is a... Eric Turner.

It is 100%. And it's internationally known and a crazy thing if you want to talk about performative and this is some shit. The first like 11 rows at the Spurs Arena were all Knicks fans

that were forced to change their clothing. So basically they did all these restrictive measures to make sure that there weren't Knicks fans in the arenas because Knicks fans been mobbing everywhere. So what they said is that

If you're selling your tickets and you're a San Antonio Spurs ticket owner, you could only sell it in a 150 mile radius. So my friends that went got people from Austin to buy the tickets for them because Austin's like, I don't know, 100 miles from San Antonio. So they all get people that are either local or from other areas that are close to, quote unquote, buy the tickets for them, and they get them from them, and then they mob. And then San Antonio would make them change their clothing because they were too. Is that fair?

Can you do that? They did that bullshit with the Sixers, man. They ran the sky of our own building. Buy your own tickets. You shouldn't be able to- Give some tickets to the fire department. Give us some tickets to the police department. I agree.

I agree. Give us tickets to the TSA. Nixon's-discite, man. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. Y'all don't support your own team. I agree. Can we talk about how Victor Wimbiana might have been crowned too early? And we might be having this conversation too early.

He might come out an average 40 next three, four games. I don't think so. I think we need to talk about it. I said it last week and everybody acted like I was crazy. I think he's been crowned a little bit too early. I keep going back to the fact that I don't think a face of the league can be a foreigner, but if there's anybody who could probably do it, it's Victor Wimbiana. And to me, what makes a person the face of the league is not only what they do on the court,

but they transcend basketball. Like, your mom knows who they are? Your mom knows what it is. If you said to your mom right now, who is Victor Wimbiana? I don't like how many times you said your mom. By the third good mom, I was like, hey, man, shut the fuck out. But I'm just saying. Why is my mom no way?

This is what the next winning does the New Yorker. Can you see how New York this got? You're trying to say if my mom's getting visited by extraterrestrials. If you see my mom's name after you. If you asked your mom who Victor Wimbiana was, she was like, yeah, he used to come to our dance school. When you were like, she was like, who bickett? Like, no, mom, he played basketball. But my point is you need somebody that's dominant on the court.

Yes, you're right. And transcends basketball. Yes. I have yet to see Victor Wambiana dominate any of these series. He's a good player. You see it defensively. Okay, so defensively, he clearly changed. He had a great game.

No, no, no. Like, I saw the Knicks with the yips in the first quarter anytime they got in the paint. Shots that Brunson puts up every single time. They would get in the pain, then they would dish out. And what was happening is in the first quarter, the Knicks weren't hitting the threes at all. Yeah. So if you get in the paint and you dish out and you're not hitting those corner threes against Victor, your fuck. And then what fucking Jalen did, I think it was in the second quarter.

He said, fuck it. He said, I'm shooting. I don't give a fuck. And he was getting to the cup, he was getting buckets. Especially when Victor was on the bench, he was like, fuck it. But he does transform the game defensively. But my issue with Victor is like, if he's not going to hit that deep three with regularity. Take your ass down in the paint.

Well, he can't. Get your Akeem-E-Lajun on. He don't have the he keeps. And he doesn't have the body weight to push a cat off. That's true. I was chesting him up and he couldn't go nowhere. So why train with Hakeem all summer? I'm like, what did you learn?

If he was down there getting his Hakeem on, he's averaging 40. in this series. In any series. A lot of people who train with Hakeem, but not everybody's the dream. Not everybody to dream. We sleep on the fucking dream. We really do. Go back and watch Knicks fans don't. I'll tell you that much. Finals. No, yeah, it was Shack's first finals. Hakeem second when they

went, I think they went back to back when Jordan retired. Yep. Yo, Hakeem averaged like 34 in 13 or something crazy. Hakeem is just filthy. Phenominal. But that's what I imagine Victor went beyond it. You know how much points he had last night? It's 20? 26 and 12.

But I'm like, you didn't see it in the game. He got a lot of the free throw line. He had like six field goals. But it's like, why if you're 7, 6 with that skill set, do you not dominate? I think what it was is when the game got tight in the fourth quarter coming down the stretch. And, you know, I'm talking about one game.

It could change over the series. He wasn't a person you could just throw the ball to him and say, get a bucket. Why not? But they did have somebody who could do that. Harper could do that. And I think they made a mistake. This Harper kid is nice.

They should have played through this down the stress. You know that's Ron's kid? Yeah. This kid is weird. You know, so funny, I was at my dad, I did a, had daddy daughter field day this week with my four-year-old. And so, you know, we out there as the fathers doing stuff with the daughters. And a couple of dudes had on Nick's hat.

So I'm like, Nick since six, baby, this before game one. Nixon six. So we get to talking about the game. And the guy goes, I don't like Ron Harper. We started talking about the players in LA and we talked about Dylan Harper. I don't like Ron Harper. I'm like, why you don't like Ron Harper? because of the bulls?

He's like, no, no, I don't got nothing to do with the bulls. Well, actually, I got six reasons, but one of them is the bulls, but this ain't about the bulls. I said, what is it? He said, we play golf together sometime, and he parks in the handicapped spot. But then he'll go out there and walk 18 holes. So you can't walk 20 feet,

but you can walk 18 fucking holes. Not parking in the fucking handicapped box. Why does the golf course have a handicapped? I don't fucking grow. You don't need, you know, that's ridiculous in itself, right? It's like, what the fuck are we doing? a handicapped spot at an athletic event. You should pull up in your golf car.

That's it. What are we talking about here? I don't know, man. But all I know is Nick's in fucking six. Nah, Nick's sweeping. Brooms. If they sweep it, that's even better. I just need it to be in the garden.

New York deserves that. New York deserves the home win in the garden. You know what I mean? We need to see that pandemonium. We need to see the helicopters flying. They are already doing that? It's already. Doesn't matter.

Exactly. That's how it just showed me on. But it's better when it went at home. We need somebody dressed up as Batman standing over something just because, hey, that's what you do one of you crazy ass next thing. Dress up his Batman. They're not going to match the square. Like, go crazy, man.

Y'all deserve it. Don't take, they're not going to tear the city up. It's joy. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think. They're not going to tear it up. They're not going to tear the city up. Okay. They're not.

No, no, we're not. They're not going to tear the city up. It's joy. They haven't told you. It's not toyed up yet. Yeah, maybe that's Philly. Philly'd be tearing it up. New York needs this, man.

How do they just be get on top of the things, though? New York needs this. In the World Warfool. How do they get on top of that? What else we got Taylor again? We only got a hot hour today, guys. People got stuff to do. Do y'all want to talk about us?

Shout out to, uh, salute to all the four-year-olds out there. Four-year-olds are so funny, bro. Four-year-olds? Yes. Why? Because I told you all that my daddy daughter Field Day, man. And kids are so hilarious. Like, this was one little kid was sitting by me.

He was a white girl, blonde hair, blue eyes. She's just staring. And she goes, are you blank blanks, dad? I go, yeah. And she's just looking at me and she goes, I have a grandmother. What? What is I got to say?

That's what she said. I just stare. I have a grandmother. I'm like, hey. I like his Oh funny creases man Knowing you Just knowing Charlemagne

And knowing that his daughters Are his daughters There's a part of me that's thinking His daughter was looking at that girl Some other day this week You're like, I bet you don't even have a grandma I had to think about it But I started to get dark

I guess I do No you don't I have a grandma don't have a grandma. But see, I started to get dark and tell the truth and be like, I used to have one, but they're dead. Oh my gosh. I was this close. When I say I was this close, and God was like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Okay, she's four years old. And I was like, yeah, yeah, grandmothers. I'm serious. Well, four, I wish that adults would grow up and still before. Yeah, wouldn't it be great? Just no filter and just saying what's on.

Just pure joy. Just think of the joint. This young girl is at school, daddy, daughter day, but she's thinking about her sweet old grandmother. And her grandmother was just on her mind and she wanted to tell some stranger, I have a grandmother. That's how much impact that grandmother is having on her life. That little bit of appreciation.

Because I've gotten to the point in my life right now where I really, really despise people who don't appreciate nothing. Yeah. Like, shut the fuck up and stop being so disgruntled about life. Stop complaining about everything. Be grateful. You get to do these things. Not you have to.

Not somebody's making you. You get to do these. Especially in the workplace. When you look around and you see how many people don't have employment. I know how many, you know, I know money, even in these corporations isn't what everybody got, but at least you're making something. There's somebody out there right now that will die for your child. To be in the position that you're in right now. So just learn to appreciate the little small things in life, man.

This girl appreciated her grandmother for you. years old, hot as hell in New Jersey. He was getting bullied, bro. She was getting bullied by Charleston Offspring, and she needed you to know. She knew that your daughter came to school as like, yo, my dad said you have no grandma.

That's not true. My dad said, your granny's dead. That's what my dad said. That's my dad's. That's not true, man. My grandma's not dead. My dad told me he's dead. I don't know. True.

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blue-choo.com. Use the promo code idiots. You buy two months. You get that third three. You were going to be incredibly thankful. We are going to be incredibly welcome. Blu-tru.com promo code idiots. Go out there. Get busy. Now let's get back to the show. You see the internet trying to make a war between me and academics? Did you see that? I didn't know it was a war between you guys I thought it was like You guys were you were like Saying hey be careful

Look out I thought you were looking out for him Well yes I gave Is that not what he said? Yeah You can play it play with academics or? Oh yeah you can play it play what I could do me say Shout my man Charlottie me

He gave me a call he said act This was going around I seen it What? Where'd it come from? I don't know Oh okay Charlie if I wasn't supposed to air you out on that It's okay I got to get to the bottom of this. I hear Laurel Larosa got in the background.

What, Laura Larosa got? What? Then I hear, oh, you got like one of the stooges I was on this show and then this other guy that don't like you. And I'm like, what is what's going on here? Now, like for anything, I like to address things head on. But with that, you know, I don't like doing proxy wars. I like to just kick it off.

I tell all y'all eat a dick. Straight up. All yeah, eat a dick. I ain't stopping nothing. Only I can eat a dick. When there is entities that's plotting against me, don't be the messenger. You either whip me against me.

No DJ Callis around my book. No DJ Callis around my book. Get the fuck away. You can stop here. Oh, so he's saying... Now, he's saying you need to pick a side. Is that... I don't know.

I'm communicating. But here's the thing. I gave academics a heads up. Because academics have done that for me before. You know what I'm saying? Academics has reached out to me before. Yeah. They say, hey, I don't know if you see what's happening over here,

but such and such is doing this, such is doing that. Oh, you know what? Good looking, right? So I was returning the favor. And usually, man, stuff comes across the desk all the time. We do media, right? So in media, you get tips, anonymous tips. I got so many files on so many different people.

I don't know if things are true. I'm just saying that these things come across the desk, right? Usually, there's a lot of stuff that I ignore. This was when I was like, you know what? I'm going to reach out on. And I don't know if I reached out through texts before Jeremy Hecht said what he said are after. Jeremy Hecht? Yeah, let's play what Jeremy Hecht said.

Because Jeremy Hecht accused academics of taking money from... Who's Jeremy Hecht? politicians. Jeremy, he used to be on this hip-hop D-X show with DJ head and Elliot Wilson called The Bigger Picture. I think he still works for hip-hop D-X. Now, let's know what Jeremy had. Academic says that he has $100,000 for me if I can prove that he was being paid by the head of true social. Jeremy, I got $100,000 for you provide that. Let me read some receipts. November 14, 2025, Chris Pavlovsky sent a payment to Livingston Allen for $8,804. And another one on December 23, 2025 for $1,234.

That's almost 10K. Technically, that's only a tenth of what you would owe me. I won't put it on screen, but you can go double-check the PayPal Act. Now, I know you want to act all confused and Google it. Now, I don't know if I text him before this or after, but I do remember when I saw this, I said, oh, shoot, let me hear that. Because what came across our desk was the same information, but not that. It just was like this spreadsheet that was like, yo, DJ academics.

takes money from music people and media people and, you know, political people. And also they take money to spread false narratives about folks. Like, you know, do these smear campaigns and things that nature. And that wasn't even what I was really calling them to get a heads-up on, because I could tell you himself, I was like, yeah, I take money to, you know, from music people. Like, that's not a secret. The political stuff he said he didn't know anything about, whatever. The reason I call that.

And Axe said, I think that he asked me who was behind it and I said I couldn't tell him. That's not true. I said, I don't know, but I would find out. But what I did tell him was that these three individuals, Carson McCoy, another guy named Alex Ocho, and George N-W-N. How you pronounce it, Chris? W-E-E-N-G-U-I-U-N. Wynne is the closest, yeah. George N-N-W-N.

That's Grand Wizard Chatnigger. And he is from Australia. What we were told was the Carson kid in George were getting investigated, got pressed by investigators, and cooperated. No, not Grandi. And told, instead that they get their marching orders from academics and Drake. I don't know if this is true. I don't know if it's not true.

I'm just... Grand... Is he? I'm... What? Is he? He lives in Australia. Yo, I sent...

I sent Act the pictures they sent us of him. And Act goes, who is this? And I go, they say this is the George Grand Wizard chat nigger dude. And then he was like, what? I thought he was skinny. And so I guess when he sent Grand the pictures, you know, Grand confirmed, like, yeah, man, I got these pictures sent to me, you know, a few months ago. So I was just calling act to give them a heads up and I said, yo, you might need to watch the people around you.

Because sometimes, man. No, Grandy! Sometimes you... He's hilarious, though. I don't know. But sometimes you be in business with people and aren't fully aware of all the things that they may be doing. So is that, so there's illegal activity because they're being paid to do things? What's illegal about that?

I really, to be honest with you, I really don't know. I really don't know. When I say I don't know, I really don't know. I saw this guy, there's this guy in Australia. He wrote an article called, what was his name? His name is Keishore. Damn, what's his name? Because you know his name? He wrote this article. Is this alleged, by the way? Like, are we... Well, this is an article from Australia. It says the rapper, the crypto billionaire and the Instagram mystery man. The Instagram mystery man is, Grant was a chat nigga, aka George Nguyen, or whoever it is. Now, Act told me that the dude car. They're hilarious. Ag told me that the Duke Carson used to work for him. Even more hilarious now that I know these Vietnamese. Yeah, oh.

I should be up to the picture up. It's insane. We should put a picture up, but Ag told me that, what's his name? You used to report his name? It is Kishore Napier Rahman. Kishore Napier Ramon apparently has been doing this story. Like, he writes for like a newspaper out there in Australia. So apparently this was a big deal.

Like they came to Grand Wizard's house, aka George Nguyen, and was talking to his parents and was talking to his parents and was talking to him, and this is all allegedly, him and the dude, Carson, we're cooperating and just told them, hey, we do these things because of these two individuals, you know, academics and Drake. Once again, I don't know if this is true or not. I just decided to tell Act what the hell was going on, right? So also, Act told me that Carson... So they're rolling on, according to this, they're rolling on Act. Who's rolling on that? The Grandi and then the other person. They just said that they're cooperating and they said that the two people

they get their marching orders from was academics and drugs. But are they, so they're cooperating against? That's what it sounded like to me. And we know this is true or this is all legend right now? I'm just showing you what they said. They said it's been an investigation. I just don't want to throw things on people that I find hilarious. You know what I mean? If you're not funny, you're guilty, but once you're funny, I'm like, ah, God, man. But I told me, be innocent. But I told me, me that Carson used to work for him, but Carson don't work for him no more. And we were told that Carson used to run Academics TV, but now allegedly George and Drake run academics TV. Now, I told that all of this laughing... Academics TV is a... It's like a Twitter page that is

crazy. Like, they just, they go crazy on people. Like, they, I mean, they just say the wildest shit. Like, like, they just say the wildest shit about people. So, this is just, just, you know, this is This is apparently, this is allegedly George right here. That's a grand right there. The goat, bro. The goat. So, nah. That's apparently him.

But by the way, it gets, it gets crazier, right? So. George, stay true, George. Don't roll, George. He might have already did. But anyway. Don't do it, great indeed. Hit my thing.

I told. I can't unfollow. Listen, I told. The content's too good. I can't unfollow. I told Actis information. Yeah. Right?

I don't know what Act went back and told the team. Okay. But then it's funny, if I go to you and I say, yo, this dude, George, Grand With a Chat, nigger, you know, runs academics TV, allegedly. And I'm telling you that this dude and this guy Carson might be cooperating and telling things about y'all that may or may not be true. But then you spend the whole week slander in me. Oh, AC was slandered you? No, no, Academics TV. Who's ran by George, aka Graham, was a chat nigger.

Oh. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So you spend the whole week slandering me because of what I told, Academic. It's like you're kind of proving these people right. But somebody comes to me and says, hey, this guy right here, you know, works for these two individuals, gets paid to spread these narratives,

and then when I go to your man and tell you, man, something about you, you spend the whole slander in me. But why would they slander you? Isn't that so obvious? Oh, whoa, that's a good point. That's a great question. When I saw one of the posts, I sent it to act.

And I'll tell you what I said. I sent it to act. I say, yo, aiming at me won't do nothing for him. I just put you on to what came across our desk because you always do it for me. And then he said, yeah, I think he thinks you and Rock Nation

are exposing him, L.O.L. He said he got those three, he got those picks three months ago, LOL. This is next level, LOL, dude is in another country. What the fuck I got to do with this? You know what I'm thinking? What the fuck Rock Nation got to do with this?

They think you're tied to this ex-spoise on... How? When I called your man to notify him. To tell him what the fuck was going on. Act didn't have to say nothing to nobody. Act could have took that information. This is fascinating. I could have took that information and did whatever with it.

He could have just went and notified his team. I don't know. So if act notified his team and his team reaction is, all right, well, let's go sland the dogman for the week. You're kind of proving the point. You're proving the point and making me look like, oh, so maybe it is something to what the fuck me? be going on. But I don't know, I don't think academics has anything to do with it. I really don't. And why? I think he's, he's, he's affiliated with some people that he may not know everything that they're up to. They're up to. Because there's lawsuits like that. There's lawsuits that

act just got added to, right? Like involving Drake and steak and all types of other shit. And, you know, the dude George is also in those lawsuits as well. Okay. And I just think that that guy might be involved in some things that Act may not know about it. Act put me onto the whole clip of game, even though I knew what the clippers were, but they really roll like a mob and a mafia. And that's another thing I was telling that guy. I was like, yo, there's people in these discords that they're in. Oh, yeah.

Sending out what y'all are supposed to do. So they hit. So it's like, okay, Jay-Z performed on stage this Friday, on Saturday. He said X, Y, and Z about Drake. Here's the clips. We're going to run with these narratives. You don't even need bots when you got real people with real pages doing it. And all you got to do is go look at academics TV,

and you can see the slander is a pattern to the slander. Oh, so you're finding the sources in which it comes from. It's all that academic TV page, which is apparently ran by Grand With the Chat, niggas. And the dude George, allegedly ran by it. This is the thing a lot of people I think

maybe don't understand about, like, narratives on the internet. Is it like these discords are incredibly powerful? Because think about it, you only need, like, 30 people to make a comment section look a certain way. And you can, you can, You could take whatever clip you want, manipulate it, you know, cut it up.

But this is the thing that they do that's actually kind of brilliant. They'll post the clip and put the caption. So the narrative will be what they want out in the caption. You might even listen to it and be like, that's not exactly how that went. It doesn't matter. But it don't matter. But also if you think about like in the comments, if you see 10, 15, 20 comments, your brain is almost conditioned to be like, oh, this is how everyone feels about the thing.

but if you have these massive discord groups that are being coordinated and narratives that are being coordinated at the, basically, the tip of the spear of the discord groups, and then those people go out and then push those narratives, not only through clipping

and through posting to big accounts, but also reinforcing those narratives within the comment section. Yes. It's very similar to back in the day, like when someone would talk about Beyonce and then like the bees would enter your chat. And like that we felt like was really authentic.

It was like, don't mess with the beehive. I think it was. Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying it wasn't. Now we've found a way where like you actually don't need 40 million followers on Instagram to create that. No. You need 50 people. 50 coordinated people that are all willing to say the same thing and each of them has one account. But what if they have five accounts?

Yeah. 50 people becomes, what is that? 200. Oh, they're making a kill. Two of the 50 people. Oh, these clips are making a killing. Oh. And apparently, you know, they really are a clan and they have a grand wizard.

And his name is George. George Nguyen. What's the how do you pronounce that? I'll say when. George Winton, okay, the Vietnamese kid from Australia. Yeah. And he is really, really, really, really in control of these individuals. So he's a act knows what's going on and he's playing me and I'm naive or he has no idea.

No idea. But I also think, you know, these guys can be scary, right? Because like, you know, what if? You think it's that coordinated, though? I know it is. Like, listen, here's the thing. And I wish Alex was here. Unvenoced to me, this came from act.

Alex Media had whatever dossier about George, like, three months ago and sent it to him. I don't know what the fuck is going on. And I go, oh, wow. Where the fuck? That's what I said. I go, oh, wow. So what the fuck? I'm like, so what the fuck is going on?

Al left the country like Cassie. And after the other thing, I told, Act, I said, listen, I don't know what the fuck is going on. I'm just telling you what we got sent. I told him that. And I said, and oh, the crypto accounts are flagged too. The crypto accounts. What does that mean? I don't fucking know.

I'm just telling you what was sent to us. So I'm relaying this messaging. But then I see the lawsuits about, you know, the crypto shit with stake and all of that and everything. And I'm like, all right, they got some other shit going on over. So I'm just, I let Act know about what the fuck was going on. So there's no, there's no issue between me and academics. Or maybe I'm just being naive. I think that's, but that's, but Grand, he's

He's innocent. No, Randy, you're innocent. Nah. Maybe you're innocent. He's a victim. He's a victim in all. I don't know if he's innocent of these allegations that he's being accused of. Yeah.

But he'd be wilding on academics TV. And that's the thing I told academics too. Academics was like, yo, you know, these guys, man, there. guys, man. I don't know Academics TV on Twitter. I follow I am academics and I follow academics on Instagram. Yeah, Act was like, yeah, you know, these guys, you know, my guys are being exposed and, you know, people are doxing my guys and they're coming after him. No, Act, these motherfuckers be on social media talking crazy about people. Oh, and the chickens are coming on to roos. The chickens are coming home to fucking roos. You can't do that. You can't

throw rocks and hide your hand, but I guess you can if you hide behind Avis. avi's aviars what's the shit called avatars avatars of academics right and say your name is grand was a chat nager but now that your name is actually out there George Gwynn or whatever it is and people are actually coming to your house talking to you and your parents people in Australia are writing articles

about what's going on think you might want to relax think you might want to take a step back and be like yo this is getting a bit too much because at the worst at the worst Yeah. I see, I can see, like, heavy lawsuits. You know what I mean?

That cost you a lot of money. And I don't know what the ramifications are with political things. I do know that when you post political stuff on social media and you're endorsing people, you have to tell people that you got paid for. You have to disclose payment. Every single time. You can't just make a broad statement like, yo, I got paid by repul. You know, every single time you do a post, that's it.

That's political that you got paid for. you have to disclose that. That's probably a good rule. That's probably a good rule because then you know that at least the audience gets to decipher whether it's authentic to who you are what you believe or these are somebody

else's ideas and they're using it. Is that not something to tell somebody? If somebody is giving you a heads up before about some bullshit, is that not a reason to pick up the phone and give somebody a heads up? Well, I think what you did was quite benevolent. I don't see why, but it doesn't seem here that he's upset at you.

No, but it's his, It's academics TV. But you're saying that... What's the connection between academics and academics TV? That's this guy! Does he own academics TV? He must. Who?

Academics. Oh, I don't know. They say George is definitely part of... It's behind academics TV. Who told you that? The dude Carson... Yeah. And the dude Carson told...

Allegedly told investigators when he cooperated allegedly that he used to write academics TV, but he gave it to... George and Drake. And Drake. So now we believe that Drake is... I don't know. I'm listening out three albums. I'm not saying I'm believing any of it.

And tweeting. I'm just saying what's happening. He's a busy guy, this guy. Yeah. All I'm simply saying is they do come to the defense a lot. Oh, of course. A lot. That's where the bread is buttered.

A lot. And after Jay Z dropped his freestyle, this Saturday. He got off me for a second and they just went straight JZ. Well, we got to talk about that freestyle. But we will. And I just think I'll put a button on it by saying I think that maybe. Because liking someone is not a crime. Like, you love Kendrick.

You think he's an amazing artist. Nobody would ever assume you're getting paid to defend Kendrick. It's not. But I just think it's two things, right? And, you know, when you have those clippers on your side, that's a great team to have on your side. They run the internet. The clippers run the fucking... But they're also a horrible person that not be on your side.

Oh, of course. So if you're somebody... Because I was wondering, I'm like, Mack, I told you this information. Why didn't you tell your audience that? Why didn't you tell your audience what I told you about George and Carson? And why haven't why hasn't Academic TV aimed at Jeremy? Maybe I missed it.

Jeremy is. Jeremy, heck. Like, after what Jeremy accused y'all love. Instead of going at Jeremy. Because I don't even have that information Jeremy got. I didn't get that. I don't know. I don't have that.

The stuff I got is music stuff and, you know, a couple of, like, political campaigns. How would he get that information? I don't know. But that's my point. My point is, I ain't see y'all pointing the finger at him or going at him. So why would you go at the person that gave you a head-up? But I think- What is your point?

What do you think? What is your reason? I don't know if X shared the information with them. Why would he share it? If he's actually skeptical of them, why would he share that information with that? Because you should let people know that you on to what they got going on, so maybe they stopped. which is why I'm doing this right now. But it's just interesting, right?

Because one thing, like I said, they're good to have on your side and they're good to not have on your side. Because what if they wake up one morning and stop fucking with that? What if I wake up one morning and all of a sudden this, DJ academics was accused of drugging

and raping a girl in 2024? Like, you know what I'm saying? And then they're amplifying that. That's my point. Like the tables can turn just like that. So you think it's like private security. It's like, yeah, they secure you until someone else pays more.

You see what I'm saying? Oh, and I'm glad you said that because I told Act that. I said, act, the way you do anything is the way you do everything. People that can get paid to do certain things will do that to the highest bidder. And if you think otherwise, you're bugging. Not just act, but anybody out there. The way a person does anything is how they do everything. Remember the early days of the internet with podcasts when, like, nobody knew that there was money surrounding it.

And it was so. It is interesting, like, not to make this like a money thing, but like money corrupts everything. Like you make too much money in sports, people start really cheating. When there's no money in sports, it's just people playing it for the love of the game. Yeah. You start to make 100 million dollars. People are taking steroids and taking peptides or doing everything they possibly gain and get a competitive advantage. Yeah.

They send him Michael Jordan fucking, you know, poison pizza during the playoffs. You see what I'm saying? This shit is filthy. And I thought about this because I was even sort of, you saw the shit with Travis Scott. Like Travis Scott got accused because he was using. that same PR firm that went after Rebel Wilson and all of them

That story was fucking crazy and that gets swept under the rug too quick in my opinion But that's my point Like you literally have these people Say the story just so Hold on, let me pull the headline up Basically there was like a PR firm

That I think It's the same PR firm that the Hollywood reporter Already did an expose on That was basically going to put out a hit piece against Was it a producer? Hold on I tell you right now It was Rebel Wilson The latest story that came out was Travis Scott's camp worked with alleged smear conspirators.

The name of the PR firm is the... What was the name of the PR firm? What is the name of the PR firm? I can't fucking find the name of the PR. But isn't that crazy how buried the story is that you can't even just immediately Google it? I mean, it comes out. No, you can't immediately Google it. It's just a matter of finding it.

But essentially it was a... And these are the same people who allegedly attacked antagonists of actress director of Rebel Wilson. So documents show the Rapids Entrepreneurs Manager coordinated with these entertainment industry operatives, this PR firm, against an adversary by seeking out potentially discrediting information to post on a ghost platform. So listen, man, none of these campaigns you see against people are organic. Well, that's, they're all coordinated. And they're all because, like, you saw what they did to Jay Z after Jay Z freestyle. Well, I want to get into the J thing one second.

But like, real quick about this. Do you know how we have like a healthy skepticism of the news? For example, if we see Fox News, we know that it's going to be favorable to conservatives. We see CNN. We know it's going to be favorable to liberals. And we like, look at the news through this lens, right? We go, they have a specific take on the world and they're going to defend this position. We're all aware of that.

Yep. Yeah. Okay. And then the internet comes out and we assume that there's some like authenticity in the internet. But why would once the internet becomes a tool of power, why wouldn't the same people in charge not use it to their advantage in the exact same way? And you could argue almost more effectively. So of course, of course I could see the internet being used as a way to push narratives and a way to like slam certain people and ignore certain stories and kill a story with another story. So I think there should be a skepticism

the second you see like every page hating on somebody and these massive campaigns. The assumption, I don't think, I don't think for the average person, but the assumption for us definitely in the business who have like dealt with it is like, oh, this is 100% coordinated. Absolutely.

Because we know, the name of the PR firm is the agency group. Interesting. That's the agency group. So it's the same ones that they said, Rebel Wilson, Rebel Wilson's PR team also connected to Justin Baldoni, allegedly plot heavy smear campaign for actress in leaked audio.

So my point is there's people that do... It's a dirty game, bro. It's a dirty fucking game. It's a dirty game until you get with a big mouth motherfucker who don't give a shit like me. Amen. So, you know, whatever y'all was ramping up,

ramping up some more, God damn it, okay? Right? Gran with a chat nigger, George Nguyen, and, you know, whoever else. I'm just telling y'all, that's what y'all need to be paying attention. George, George, say it ain't so, George. Listen, you want me to say the names again? Let me say the names again. So y'all say the names again.

Oh, George. Carson McCoy, Alex Ocho and George win. I think George might be innocent, though. I think I would just say that. Academics, get your people. I would just say that. Just off of your hilariousness. I'm not familiar with the other guys.

Hey, get your people act. Okay. Yeah. Now, Jay Z's freestyle. What do you think? Hmm. Let's pay this bill first. Yeah, let's pay this bill.

Pay this bill. Church announcements have the cari walker yes sir we'll be in a virginia beach this weekend man thank you guys so much for selling out all the shows and uh then i just added some shows uh out west i'm gonna be out there doing a cool movie this summer man very excited about that so uh i'll be out there uh i'm gonna be doing some shows at the ice house in pasadena i'm doing the 19th and the 20th and also be at the ontario improv the 26th and 27th and then i'll be at the 10th and the 20th and then i'll do it the 19th and the 20th and then i'll do it the 19th and the 20th and then i'll do it the 19th and the 10th and the 10th and the 10th and the 10th and i'll do it. be at the Brea Improv, July 17th and July 18th, and then I'll be in Halifax, Nova Scotia, August 8th. So grab those while they're available. You want to be a main character on that? Say again? God damn, Taylor. I don't mean to say it like that.

Damn, me. No. What the fuck was that, Taylor game? I did not need to say it like that. Why was that so violent? No reason. That's crazy, man. Andrew, I'm saying.

That violent is. No, Taylor. I don't have any aspirations to that at all. God. Why can't it just be congratulations on getting another movie shows? No, congrats. You know what I mean?

Don't you want to be a main character? No, just fuck it. No, congrats. Don't you're going to be a main character. And if you just go out and just don't try to be the main character. And if you just show up and be like, show me where the supporting roles are.

You know what I mean? What the fuck was that? To answer your question, to answer your question, I would, I would rather be part of the coolest projects. Okay. No, but I'm just saying, like, would you,

and you should get into voice acting, too. But you, would you want to, you don't know what I want to ask you. Yes, he wants to, and will be. Ask your question. And I guarantee you the movie that he stars in will be something that is probably, we, self-funded.

We got some things in the work. That's what I'm saying. Like, yo, I am so, I am so inspired by Curry Barker and obsession. Oh, yeah. I'm inspired by the other kids. Backroom. Backroom.

What's the dude who did back. See, I'm, this, backroom budget was 10 million. Slupe to 824 for even having the vision and wanting to take a chance on a 20-year-old YouTuber, giving them my opportunity to direct the video, I mean, direct the movie. I don't know that young man's name. Kane Parsons. Salute to Kane Parsons, bro. I'm going to see Backroom this weekend.

That shit did like a hundred 10, like a hundred plus million in six days. That's a YouTuber sitting on YouTube doing fly shit. Curry Barker, same thing. Budget of 750,000 to a. a million dollars and did obsession and that shit has made 80. Were you scared? Was it a scary movie? It actually wasn't.

It's like a psychological thrill. It wasn't really scary. But like this is a testament to, I think Hollywood's starting to figure things out, which is like if you just take someone who's popping on social media and you put them in a movie that's got nothing to do with them or their creation, their fan base won't necessarily come watch it. No. But if you take a creator and then you let them create something that's in their vision,

their fan base that loves that creator and the things they create will absolutely go support another one of their creations. And I think that's what Hollywood is starting to understand. They're going, oh, we don't put them in our shit. We give them money to make their shit

and they're used to making their shit for almost nothing. That's right. So we don't even have to take a big gamble. That's right. So you're going to see a, what's that? And they'll do the marketing to their fan base.

So you're going to see a lot more. This is Markiplier's movie that he put out, I think it was called Iron Lung. Iron Lung. That was really the first one that's going under the radar. 3.5 million and did like over 50. Did over 50. Okay. So he's the first guy that we saw like this YouTuber that puts their, their movie out. And I think he's self-funded, if I'm not mistaken. I think so. I'll be probably invested, but yeah, even the way, it's still a low budget. Point is, it's like this year alone you've seen three social creators go make movies that have outpaced or maybe out-profited

the biggest films that have come out. Hell yeah. And by out-profit, I mean, like, just because your movie makes $300 million, if it costs you $300 to make the $300, you made zero. I think Goorum is smoking Star Wars The Mandalorian right now, bro.

Like, listen, so with my guy, Basil, I want it. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I got Southland films. We got some great fucking stories coming. I am so inspired. But I'm also more inspired. And I just, not the profit of it all. I'm inspired by these creatives.

Yes. Who are coming with compelling stories. You just need good stories. I don't even know who stars an obsession. I don't know none of these people, but I know it's a great story, and that girl killed it. And I'm going to tell y'all for everybody who watching Obsession, the girl is not the problem. The girl is not the monster in the movie. I hope you all know that, right?

I haven't seen it. You haven't seen it? Okay. You see it in Miles? The girl's not the monster. That poor girl, man. And you know what makes the movie? Oh my God, I want to tell you, is it can I tell you all one scene?

Yeah. There's one scene that if he just simply says, yeah, there's no movie. When she's at the car door and she was like, if you like me, you should tell me now. Oh. And he's like, no, I like you as a friend. And when she walks off, he's like, fuck. And then he makes the wish on the magic shit. All you have to do is telling you like her.

Yeah. Then you get the cheeks without the craziness. No, you need the crazy. You made her fucking crazy. Crazy cheeks are wet. The part of the movie is they got this thing where you can make a wish and he wished that this girl loved him forever like nobody's ever loved him before. Okay. So why didn't he say? And so she just ended up, you know, being a very obsessive moment.

Oh, that's very obsessive. Yes, yes. But it's his fault. It's not really consensual. Thought about that too. Because there's parts of the movie where it seemed like she's possessed by somebody else. And I'm like, that shit happened. I'm like, wait a minute now. So when she comes to, when the exorcism is awful.

You see what I'm saying? Uh-oh. Now we got a whole other move. Uh-oh. Okay? That shit is wild. Jay Z freestyle, what do you think? Patty's turn to her hunting.

And she would have transitioned for I played my name. I would have hunted them. Every one of them playing these silly games. That 1-800, Ammalands Chase' would a wish one came. But now I'm on one is a joke. Public enemy number one I've been ranked. The rock's not crumbling. The leopard's have magically run out of pranks.

Your son on a federal jail line mumbling something about having too much in his drink. You know how dumb that is? Another one thrumbled his wonder how I get the blade. Niggis teeth is tumbling out their mouth and somehow I'm the one who done it. It's a moral mystery game. Was you who pumped his? I'm the one who scrump the pain. That hell you can die on.

It's way too much flat. that comes from those pain. I'm killing them softly. What's understood don't need to be explained. You one way as the other. I steal on you suckers. I'm all of you niggas gang. I ain't much for me. It's nohow. Cancel the brunches. I remember the hunger pain.

The price of the brink's going up. It's going to cost you a bead and even say my name. My children and some of them, have you niggas no shame? You're trying to get underskinned? I really get underskinned. Ask unharmed player. Got thugs with your thumbs again. Everybody think they're the one.

It's insane. You're no maniac. Watch how saniac in my presence, nigger, shrink. I need a new therapist. This shit is not working. I'm truly on the brink. Y'all better not encourage you. God don't want me to think these thoughts that I think.

That nut-ass niggas still stuttering. And chatty-patti down on his luck again. Quest introducing me to Jaguar. I don't know why I still fuck with him. You just wonder why I didn't do the freestyle rehearsal. That lady back on the stuff, she sounds like she in love with her. Her kid can't even take their kids. Enough for them.

A rapper can't beat my eye. I got Maga Republicans. Those shots came from the very talk of the government. Good luck with them. I'm governed by God. You try to break the government. I brained for 40 days. My neck get flooded again.

Risk get flooded again. My net worth went up again. My next update, the jig is up. Nigger I'm up 10. Wrong chart, champ. You got to look up again. Niggas look up the hole I never looked up to them Just got your publishing gangsta go talk tough to them

Don't talk success to me You niggas is workers in perpetuities how your contract is worded Don't make me go fr-f-man The roots remember even when the trees pretend Not too much of my name Don't forget who I am Howdy loves her shawdies S-H-A-W-N I find it a dog when she put the S at the end

You don't know the show ain't even begin I said, you don't know. The show ain't even begin. What did you think of it? I was really surprised. At what? He just seems so above all of this. Never.

You don't know Jay Z either. No, no, no. I don't know him personally, obviously. No, no, I'm just talking about musical. Sure, sure. I guess what I'm just trying to say is like, you know, Jay is running the fucking Super Bowl halftime show. He's a billionaire.

You know, it's like... He's still a rapper. I know, I know, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I guess what I'm saying is seeing him address these things was surprising to me because I thought that he was at a stage where he's no longer interacting with something. It's almost like when you see Elon Musk like getting into like Twitter beefs, you're like, Elon, you're creating like a global satellite system with rockets that land.

But it's always been Elon's, when is Elon not done that? I know. I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong. I'm just saying what was surprising to me about it. Who told you all Jay Z was Muslim? Like, who told you all Jay-Z got saved? Because he's ignored. They said so much stuff about Daisy already. That's been his whole life. You know what it surprised me?

If Jay-Z was sitting in a podcast somewhere doing that shit. Oh, Jay-Z was sitting in front of a camera addressing all of those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you mean to tell me all of these people can get on these podcasts, get on their YouTube screens, say what they want about him. Rappers can say what they want about him in rhymes. Other rappers like Nikki can get on and say shit like what they want on social media. But he's at a concert.

Yeah. The 30-year anniversary of reasonable. doubt. 25-year anniversary of the blueprint. So he decides to be outside. And he's doing what he always does performing and then stops and does an a cappella freestyle. Jay does this historically. I can name numerous times where he's done exactly that and address whatever he felt like addressing now. This man don't say nothing for years. But all of these other people can say however they want to say things in the way they can say him. He does it through his art and we're upset.

Well, who's the problem? Who's upset? I didn't, was anybody upset? It seemed like, it seemed like, it seemed like, it's like we ought to say one, I was surprising how one verse can fuck up the game. It seemed like that one verse really got everybody in a tizzy, but I'm like, yo, he hasn't said anything. Can this man reply one time?

No, he could do whatever he wants. He's a free American. Like, you can say whatever you want. To me, I was just like, I was one just surprised by like the level that he's operating at to be going back and forth. So at what point, that's a great comment, this is a great comment, at what point are you above it all? Are you ever

above it all? What if... Maybe not. Maybe not. Sometimes you want to address some shit. Yeah. I just address some shit. Did you like... People might be like, oh, you above that. Why? But did you like... Did you like the freestyle? Yes. Very much so.

I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. But it's different for me because I am what you would call a whole venture. I am a JZ connoisseur. And I've been a JZ connoisseur for a long time. I didn't like JZ in the beginning. I was a Wu-Tang, J-Rood and Damager, you know, Mom, that's who I love. So when my guy Boobie came around talking about this Jay Z guy and this reasonable doubt,

and I saw the suits and then can't knock the hustle, turn that off. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to hear that. That's not real rap. That's not real rap. With a boom, Bap, the chew sticks and the boots and the denim shorts. Okay, I want the timbrelans with the denim shorts in the summertime, in the chew sticks. That's what I was into, right?

Yeah. I'm still into it. But I remember, man, driving me and Boobie, I think he was coming back from Myrtle Beach one year, and he was playing. He played, by this time, there's no, I think by this time, Jay-Z had two albums out and the screeches watching soundtrack. And played reasonable doubt from start to finish. And I'm like, damn, damn, it's nasty. And then he went into Screeches Watch, just that song. And I'm like, yo, I really been asleep.

Yeah. I mean, Jay motherfucking Jay Z. This, by the way, this might have been like 98. So Jay came out in 96. Yeah. I didn't start getting into Jay until about 98, right? Right? My first concert I ever went to was the Hard Knock Life Tour, North Charleston Coliseum.

That was the first concert I personally ever went to. JZ, DMX, Mefferman, and Redman. When Jay Z came out on that stage and Jay Z said, while you're looking at my row, ice, bending up my sleeve, and the light hit his watch in some way that it looked like it was an effect and some type of effect that lit up the arena, I was like, yo, that shit made me want to be

in this business. So even though Ghostface is my favorite rapper of all time, Jay Z's right there. It's like my 1B favorite rapper of all time. So when I'm listening to this freestyle, I'm, you know, I've, it's like watching a movie. It's like watching Marvel. Interesting.

If you've never seen any Marvel movies, they might be a little tough for you when you go see it. Yeah, but if you know all the characters in their storyline, you know, you know, all the Easter eggs, you know what he means when he says this, that. So to me, I'm like, yo, that shit was dope and it was slag. And it was just done at the right time. And I think that that is what people don't understand in this reactionary

society that we live in. We want people to react in real time in real time. No, these people don't have no control over me. I'll react when I want to react when it's best for me. And I'll choose to react if I want to. Making an event out of it. Because when he know when he say something, it's going to be crazy.

It's going to be crazy. And it was crazy. It was all over. I saw everybody reacting. I saw more reactions to it than I saw the actual rap. Which is the kind of like internet economy we exist in. He's prolific, man. He's prolific.

Listen, I wouldn't say it's like, that's my favorite J verse. I'm going to say that's my favorite J verse. It's interesting. I think a lot of J's newer verses are a lot of my favorite J verse is because of what you said. Because he's an older man now. And we've never seen this in hip hop. We've never seen somebody be this good for this long, right?

So when I think of like, what's free verse on Meek Mill? It's never seen in the, yeah. When you hear, when you hear Jay's, what's free verse? So when you hear Jay Z's, God did verse, it's like, he's giving you updates on where he is and it's like, we haven't heard nothing since 4-4-4. He's, you know? I would just say, like, this specific one, I was just like, I was like, yeah, it's interesting to see him comment on people that I would think, like, don't even, like, reach his radar. It was also very cool in that you go, oh, he's a human being. Like, he's still, he's still an artist. Like, he's still

somebody affected by the things that people say. I think he's a person that is aware of everything, but acknowledges nothing until he chooses. Sure, but like the fact that he's even aware and thinking about it is like a very like, there's like a humanity in it. Yeah. You know, like sometimes we think of these big, you know,

superstars and we're like, ah, they ain't even like us. They're not even worried about what people think. It's like, no, he's probably still in the comments too. Absolutely, man. Listen, I have my, but was it your favorite J-verse? Because that's something that- I don't know. No.

We can, too new to say that's my favorite J-Bers. It's not even over me. That's the other thing. It's like, I feel like if what I've seen a little bit of discourse online, it's like, if you didn't say it's the hottest shit, you're, oh, you hate, and I'm like, no, this is Jay-Z. Like, if I go over, like, the breadth of raps that he's had throughout his career, like, this is not going to be my favorite one.

It's wild to see him address this shit. I'll tell you this. He knows, this is why I like the verse. He understands where he's at in 2006. Tell me. Because he knows it's not necessarily about the verse. It's about the conversation. Yes.

It's about the conversation that's going to come from these verses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So let me put them... Oh, do you think this is just a jab? I don't even think it's a jab. It's just like, yo, y'all been talking about me telling your side of the story. Well, here we...

Now, let me tell you how I feel. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, let me tell you how I feel. But I... Didn't he have a line? A wise man told me not to argue with fools. I don't think he's arguing.

It's not a back and forth. Arguments are going back and forth with people. This isn't an argument. This is a... What is a... What is a... a statement. He's already... Everybody keeps saying this. Drake going to respond. Drake,

Drake did five references to him on Iceman. All right, maybe I'm an absolute fool. Can you... What was the shot at Drake? When he talked about a rapper could never be my op. I got my Republican. Them shots came from the top. Then he says

you're... What did you... He said, them crackers stole your publishing. Don't talk tough to me. Perpetuity is the word that's used in your contract. Those are the bars that will take that trick. What did you say about the criticism of the, the MAG Republicans are his ops, but, uh, he didn't say that, though.

I got MAGA Republicans. He said a rapper could never be my ops. I got MAGA Republicans. Those shots came from the tops. So basically he's saying, I got MAGA Republicans coming after. So why would I, why would I ever be for the rapper? He didn't say, they're my ops. He just said, I got MAGA Republicans coming after.

Because some people were like, like MAGA freed your, your CEO. That's what I'm saying. People aren't listening to what he said. But what did you think about that? Like, I didn't know that Trump pardoned the CEO of our nation? Yeah, but why can't two things be true? No, they can be true.

I'm just saying, I was not aware of that. I wasn't aware that she was, she got to get a pardoned. Two things can be true. And, I mean, to me, it's like, well, that clearly shows you, if you're trying to make the, the, if you're trying to say, hey, they're down with MAGA, then why would these MAGA people be coming at them? Why would you think people be taking shots at them? Yeah, sure. I'm sure there are people are. But, like, clearly, if the interpretation is that MAG is his ops,

they clearly aren't so much his ops that they're not, like, liberating the CEO of his company and, like, benefiting his company. No, but I mean, that's a fair criticism. No, no, no, no, that's not going to say not fair criticism, but I think we're looking at it, we're not looking at it right way. I think that's why people looked at it as, like, virtue signaling a little bit. They're like, don't white knight here when you're willing to take favors. Two things can be true, right?

Because once again, yes, you got pardoned, right? First of all, anybody's taking a pardon? Anybody's taking a pardon? Anybody willing to give you a pardon? But my point is, you got pardoned. That doesn't mean there's still not Margar Republicans. There are definitely people that are coming at you 100%. You know what I'm saying?

To be honest, what you don't have nothing to do with the other? And there's more Magropocas than just Trump. Absolutely. What he's trying to say. But I do think it's a fair interpretation to look at it and be like, ah, don't virtue single here because you're willing to take the pardon for your girl. If that's the logic, then, uh, academic should be responsible for what Grand Wizard TV does on academic.

I mean, Grand Wizard does on academic TV. I think a lot of people would if it's like his channel and things are coming out of his channel, they'd be like you're ultimately responsible for it, right? Do you think that'd be a fair criticism or like a fair, a fair hold of responsibility? Sort of, but I guess I'm giving, I'm giving act bail. You know what I mean? Sort of. Yeah, because you're giving him bail because that's something you've known for years and this is a friend of yours. Like, I don't think you would, I don't know if you would call me.

But I did hear him say, I can't hold these guys back anymore. So I guess he was talking about the George Wins and the academics TV. Because he did say, I can't hold these guys back anymore. So if them guys think I'm not, it don't matter what happened over here. It don't matter what's going on with me and here. But anybody who's just watching and assuming they're going to see like his name on an account coming at you. Like it would probably be fair for someone to assume that. That's all I got all week.

What's up with you and I get? What's your academic? I'm like, nothing. Me and I just was texting. Like, what are you talking about? He just talked on the phone last week for a couple of hours. Yeah. So, fair assumptions.

Fair assumptions, man. Here's a thought I had. I got to wrap up in a minute. Yep. Jay-Z is a perfect example of someone who's lost a battle but won the war. With Nas. Yes. Yes.

But it was a very good fight. Fair. I'd act like takeover wasn't phenomenal. Takeover was a great song. I think we tend to forget. Ethan was Nas getting up off the mat. I think we forget that It is interesting

Because like Which is all the credit due to the Nause Think about that Absolutely Like to get up off to mat And then drop that Absolutely I saw Jay Z perform

Takeover Live In New York Manhattan Center Yeah You can't tell me Daisy lost anything Well I guess I think

That's my I think takeover was the better record Yeah But just like I was culturally... I remember walking out of that arena

being like, now it's gonna never come back to New York. I can't explain it. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Takeover is the better record? I heard this take. But Ether won. I can't explain it.

I can't explain it, yo. Ether became a verb or whatever. Eat the one. But here's a perfect example. And this is to maybe go to our conversation we had last week that was really spirited, which is like, it is also possible to lose a battle,

but then have the more prolific, successful career, I win the war. Now, that's not to say that Nasdaer Jones is incredibly successful in his own right. It has continued to make great music and better business decisions, you can argue. But Jay has won that war. Is that something that could transpire between Drake and Kendrick, in your opinion? I'm going to be, I don't know. Don't know if Jay won the war.

Between Nas and, Nas and Jay? No. I think that Nas won't. that fight and then they agreed to a ceasefire. I don't know if there was a, there's no war to be won. Even when people had that rhetoric back then when they were like, nah, Jay won because Jay was president in the Def Jam and he ended up signing out. Like, I don't look at it like that.

I look at it as two individuals who went to war. That's an interesting take. Nas won. Like Jay dropped him. He was down on the mat. It got the nine and he jumped up like the undertaker. You know what I mean? Nas was down 3-1.

When he came back with Itha, boom. Then it was, you know, the blueprint, it was the super ugly, then I think it was the, what was the last, the last real nigga alive, and at some point blueprint tool came out, the gift and the curse,

whatever it was, they ended up making peace. I don't think there was ever a war after that one battle. What about the career, the war of careers, in a competitive sport of music? Nause is,

what are we talking about now? Because I don't think people realize how up Nazis. Well, that's the other thing. Nause is up in, Invested in Uber. No, no, no, no. He's crazy.

Like, it's ridiculous. Like, you think he's really got the casino in Queens. Like, go look at Nause's portfolio. No, no, that's crazy right now. These are two men who both went on to have extremely successful careers. And guess what's going to happen with Kendrick and Drake? Two men who are going to be, go on to have extremely successful careers. But no ceasefire.

No ceasefire. As of now. As of now. As of now, no ceasefire. As of now, no ceasefire. As of now, no ceasefire. I think that's it, guys. That's all I got for today.

We good? We're good, man. All right. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right.

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