The Brilliant Idiots - Wife’s On The Line

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

In this week’s episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz kick back and recap their Thanksgiving family drama, good food, old memories, and all the real-life feelings th...at come with the holidays. The guys get into the clash between legacy media vs. new media, breaking down why political interviews feel so different today and why it’s so hard to make politicians seem human. They also talk about how much responsibility the media really has when it comes to shaping stories, and why basic literacy, common sense, and trusting the right sourcesmatter more than ever. But that’s just the warm-up. Charlamagne and Schulz dive into the messy (and hilarious) dynamics of podcasting, relationships, and friendship. They unpack the weight that comes with success, the never-ending debate around taxes and wealth distribution, and whether New York City should really be getting another casino. Plus, they break down 50 Cent’s powerful new documentary and what it says about legacy, hustle, and financial literacy. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God ⁠Pre Order⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel ⁠Order Link⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley ⁠Order Link⁠ No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF ⁠Order Link⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God ⁠Order Link⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz ⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" ⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Shalabana, guys. Andrew Schult. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hasakaya Walker. Man. We took the week off for Thanksgiving, man. How'd you enjoy your Thanksgiving?
Starting point is 00:00:11 Do anything fun? Yeah, it was nice, man. It was nice being with the fam. Is this your daughter's first Thanksgiving? Uh, no. He was an infant. She was an infant. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I think she might still be an infant. What is that? Toddler now. She's toddler, yeah. Yeah, toddler. How about you? How was yours? It was good.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I was in South Carolina. Oh, you went back back. Always, man. was in South Carolina, stayed with my mom. My wife stayed with her mom, man. It's just something about being home in the room you grew up in, the room you used to praying.
Starting point is 00:00:40 You know what I'm saying? You haven't moved to the mom out of her house yet? No, she can't. She loves it. Girl. You know, like, because my dad, we used to live in a trailer. Oh, it's not the trailers.
Starting point is 00:00:50 No, no, we've been out of that trailer. So my dad built a, like, a ranch-style house. She's still in a double-wide. No, no. We've been out to double-wild. My dad built a ranch-style house way, way, way, way back in So actually, I did, I had some renovations done to it. It's so funny, there was things my dad didn't finish.
Starting point is 00:01:05 That you got finished. That I paid. I actually paid him to finish him. You know what I'm saying? So like the upstairs attic, bathroom, stuff like that. But you paid your dad to finish him. Yeah. That's fire.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah, keep it in the family, baby. But it was just interesting, you know, you grew up in the, you be in the room that you grew up in. You know, and you're living in so many of your prayers that you put up in that room. Yeah. You know, so it was just like, yeah. I mean, I go home all the time. This was interesting to staying. And reflecting on it.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Reflecting on. I was so emotional, man. Because you'd be. Oh, my God. I love this. I love this. I was, because you're driving. Gratitude emotion, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:42 You feel like a ghost. Yeah. Like, you know how they talk about ghost of Christmas past and all of that shit? Like, when you're driving through like the neighborhood you grew up in, the town you grew up in, you got all of these different memories. Oh, yeah. You really feel like a ghost. You're like, yeah, what happened to that kid? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 That was sitting on that porch. He got touched by his aunt. That is very true. Yeah, we've heard the story. Yo, that is so, man, nobody cares about my. Nobody cares about your experience. Because you made it too funny with the Jerry Curl Juice. If you never said Jerry Curled Juice, we would have taken it serious.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Nobody cares about older women diddling little boys, yo. Yes, that is a problem. But more so when you make it so funny. You said Jerry Curled juice. I didn't like the smell of her Jerry Curls. That's reasonable. You know, I was, there was one point I was driving through Mount's Corner
Starting point is 00:02:32 I started to go to my homeboy's mom's house to see her and I just, it just hit me like, oh my God, she died. Oh, no. You know what I'm saying? Like a year ago, you know, rest of peace, Miss Jimmy Sue.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And then I started thinking to myself like, damn, my homeboy dead too. Rest of peace, Jerell. Oh, no. And then my god's like, his pop's dead too. I was like, rest of peace, Herbelie. So it's like, damn, all of these people just got, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:57 So shit like that just be like, Like, shit, you know. We're getting up there, bro. We're getting up there. No. Now, we're getting up there. No. We're old enough where people we know die of old age is what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Oh, my boy, you're all that died old age, though. He what? He didn't die of old age. What did he die if? He got shot. Yes, so he didn't die. But my point is all these people are gone regardless. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:21 And when you are just thinking about habits that you used to have when you were in the town. Yeah. And you're like, shit. Like, you can't even just pull up on them right. Yeah. Yeah, shit like that'll fuck with you a little. Do you try to show your kids, you know, the places where you had memories and give them the tour? My kids spoiled it.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I know they don't care. That's what I'm curious. My kid's spoiled. My kids are the type of kids that be like, why is this house so small? Yep. Like, the house is so much bigger on the inside. There's that great Chris Rock joke. He was like, I knew my daughter was spoiled.
Starting point is 00:03:55 they were they were learning about the four seasons in school and she raised her hand she's like that's my favorite hotel true though man like I'm not making this up my and it's not even the older one it's the 10 year old to 7 year old yeah like you know you yeah this house looks so much bigger on the inside grandma's house is small on the outside big on inside like they just they're even their fault it's the only thing they know who am i's what who am i to act like, you know, they're wrong. That's their life. That's how they live.
Starting point is 00:04:29 100%. Like, we get on planes and they'd be like, mint is JetBlue's first class. But I like Emirates. Nah. They shouldn't even know about Emirates. Why not? When are you taking them to the Emirates?
Starting point is 00:04:45 What you mean? Would they have been to Africa three, four times, Dubai? Like, when I travel, I take my kids, because I feel like that's one of the best ways for them to learn outside of, like, reading. Right. Outside of reading, oh my God. It's unbelievable. And you realize how much information
Starting point is 00:05:01 they retain as kids. Like this is like my 17-year-olds, you know, I mean, she had more stamps on her passport than I ever had. But the 10-year-old, the 4-year-old, like, they retain all that information. Like, they've been to these places. Like, it's a different conversation.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And I love it. And who are we? Why should they see otherwise in life? Agreed. What are we doing all of this for? What are we doing all this? If not to show our kids to find the things in life.
Starting point is 00:05:24 100%. 100%. Now, can we talk about something? Yes. Can we talk about how the, despite our best efforts, despite our best efforts, Legacy Media still considers us to be important people. Yes. Despite our best effort.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Every week we do our best on this podcast. Yes. To not be taken seriously, we put idiot in the title of the podcast. Yes. Yes. But today we just came from this conference. The New York, it's called the New York Times Deal Book Summit. This shit was huge, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You know, it's so funny, I never realized how big something is until I get this. I thought we were, I thought we were recording, I thought, no, I thought it was like just a podcast recording. They're like, we're going to do a podcast episode. We're recording where the New York City Philharmonic is. Like, that is, it's the Philharmonic, the one with the instruments and everything, right? Oh, that's the who the fuck we were like? They shut down the whole room just for us, nine of us to sit on a table.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's what that was? Yeah. I'm pretty sure. I didn't know that. I'm almost five. Oh, that wasn't what they do to Philharmonic. Was it? I'm not going to say it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I might be wrong. Westside, bro, wait, 30th. I mean, 50s, something. No, this is not it. I apologize. It looks similar. Maybe it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I say some of the names of people that were there. Yeah. I mean, we walk in. Scott Besson is just talking. But no, now, you said that Chris should have been there, bro. Chris should have been there. Because Chris loves journalism. But you know why Chris should have been there?
Starting point is 00:06:51 What? Look who fuck was there, bro. The president of fucking Taiwan. The president of. Let's go. Dr. La Ching-Tee was there. No, say that shit again. What you're going to do now?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Pronouncing. Dr. La Ching-T. Let me try. Okay. If I walk into Starbucks and say that, what would they get? This guy's an answer. This guy's his name is Dr. Jacob Stevens. No, it's not, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's also a dog. You don't, you know the president of Taiwan. What's the president of Taiwan's name, Chris? You probably got it right. La Chang-Tee. Yeah. Yes. Lai Chang T.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yo, go to Starbucks. I'll be one of those right now. That's this year? You just left it. No, but I thought I'm going there with fucking Serena. That's last year. Oh, I'm about to say.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Halliberry? Halliberry was in the building? Scroll up. The fucking chair and CEO of General Motors, Mary Barre. Mr. Bees was there. Jimmy Donaldson. Larry Fink. David Ellison was there, the chairman of the CEO.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Alex Carp. They were protesting David. They were protesting Alex Carp. Oh, Gavin Newsom was there. should have sat down with Gaghan. Erica Kirk was there. I didn't even know that. Gavin Newsom was there.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That was all the day? That's just, hey, this is just something light. Also, Charlemagne the God and Andrew Schultz. But keep scrolling, go to our panel. I want to tell y'all who was on our panel. Come on, man. You're scrolling too slow, man. I feel a lot of liars up there.
Starting point is 00:08:13 There's so many people, because this is over multiple days, Charlemagne. That was there. Gary Vaynerchuk was there. Monica, one, too. Okay, boom, right here. They had a task force, right? This isn't this wasn't our task force.
Starting point is 00:08:24 This wasn't our panel. But we was there, Andrew Schultz was there, scroll up, I'm looking for who was on my parents. John Favreau. John Favreau, I'm sorry, the co-founder of Crooked Media, Fod Save America. Ben Shapiro. We miss you, Tommy. My guy, David Remnick was there. The editor of the New Yorker.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Stephanie Ruehl. Stephanie Rueh was there. Omna Noaz was there. Ben Shapiro was there. That's right. That's who was on our panel, though. We was just talking shit. That was who was on our panel.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It was interesting, though. But I've come to the conclusion. How did they decide to break you guys up in terms of what panel it'll put you on? I have no idea. Well, ours was about media. Ours was supposed to be about strictly media and I guess like this...
Starting point is 00:09:06 Michael Barbera hosts it, by the way. They could be the Daily. Yes, Michael Barber or the Daily. So it was about media. So it was just all of these people who represent different facets of media. You know what I'm saying? I guess, you know, from the podcasting
Starting point is 00:09:19 to, you know, radio, to interviewing, to, you know, journalism like David does, to what Favreau and Ben Shapiro do by being podcast. I don't know if you call them podcasts and new media outlets. Bro, it's... New media networks? It's... The way I look at things now is like everything is a podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Podcasts used to be a type of media, and now everything has been podcastified. So like every ESPN show is also available as a podcast. Yeah. Radio is also available as podcast. So podcast is just what we call unscripted media. Now there's even scripted podcasts. But every...
Starting point is 00:09:54 The view you could probably listen to is a podcast or watching a podcast. So podcast is just what media is. If your content is not coming out in a podcast every day, you're behind the eight ball so far. Like, I don't even know what you're doing. But it was a great conversation, man. But what I realized is that legacy media has a, I'm not going to say they have a problem with new media, but they just don't understand what it is that they're getting wrong. I understand what they're getting wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Shultz understands what they're getting wrong. They just really don't have a connection with the people. Bro, they tried to get me, man. Oh, they jumped them. Because I knew I was waiting the old time. I was like, they literally had like a running clock and there was 20 seconds left. And Barbara, it was nice guy.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Barbara was like, okay, Schultz, I have a question for you. I'd really like to get to. And, you know, he like is prefacing it all like nice and sweet. And I'm like, all right, here we go. I already know what it's going to be. I'm like, at a certain point in time, they're like, why didn't you ask Trump the hardest questions? Why didn't you do what we would have done?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Right. And he brings up this thing. he goes, you know, on the pocket, Trump said that the Russian hoax was clearly a hoaxed and it was fake and that the Pulitzer Prize should be taken away from the media companies that covered it. And I guess I said afterward,
Starting point is 00:11:04 I guess that would confirm if you gave them a Pulitzer Prize for the coverage that it was real when it was proven to be a hoax, right? And then we move on. And they're like, what do you think about that shit? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:11:18 This is why they invited him here. This is why they invited you here. Oh, that's why you hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted to jumble. There was literally no more time on the clock, and they're like, oh, no, they're going to give us a few more minutes. There's a section of the interview.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And maybe you would have thought this was dutiful in the moment. I'm not sure I'd agree. Where the president is describing the entire federal investigation into Russia as a hoax, made up by Hillary Clinton, made up by, these are made up by Nancy Pelosi. That's factual, that's not accurate. But then he goes further, and he says that the Pulitzer, Surprise Committee should give the New York Times, should take back the Pulitzer it gave to the New York Times for its aggressive coverage of that investigation. And the post. And you in the interview, you're nodding along to him. You're verbally agreeing with him.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah. And you say, yeah, to have the New York Times keep that Pulitzer is, is to basically say that the lie is true. Oh, that's what they bought you here for. They bought you to put you. I said that. What happened? No, obviously that's not, that's going for me. Wait, wait. And I said, on the home. Anyway, so, so then, so in that moment, I kind of, and it was funny, like, all the traditional media people
Starting point is 00:12:25 on the panel who are all very sweet, immediately jumped in on the conversation, and all the new media put people, kind of knew what it was, so they didn't. Like, so Shapiro or Favreau or Charlemagne were like, didn't really say anything about it. Right. So, so I said this, it's like, I was like, first of all,
Starting point is 00:12:40 I don't know what the, I don't know anything about the Russia hooks. I'm already gonna get clipped to hell on that, I'm sure. But what I said with this is like, you guys are part of the fucking media class. You have to understand this. You are reading the whole Mueller report. You're reading all of these documents. You're following the investigation.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You're following all these trials. The average person, which I think we're more representative of, all we see is there was an investigation. Mueller chose not to indict him. When we hear they're not indicting somebody, we go, oh, there isn't enough to indict him. Therefore, nothing happened. And you know who told us that? Legacy fucking media.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Like legacy media created this narrative. Now that's not to say if there isn't smoke, right? Then it's to say that there are things that they can make connections. But Mueller himself saw that there wasn't enough to indict. And what I was trying to communicate to them was like, guys, so when the American people see that, who aren't reading the whole Mueller report
Starting point is 00:13:38 and looking at all these things, they just see these fucking headlines. What do you think they're thinking? It justifies when somebody like Trump says, shit is a witch hunt. Exactly. And it justifies when he says it's a hoax. Because if you're not willing to indict, then it's a fucking hoax. Oh, they're willing to...
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yes, but I'm saying when you're not going to do that. Even at the point, you're right, but they didn't. And when you don't treat a problem, like it's a problem, does it really... They didn't, because of the rule that a president is immune is my understanding. I mean, a grand jury did indict him on some of the election stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But we're talking about, like, Russian collusion. Yeah, this is specific Russian collusion. So here's my question. So here's my question. To pull it out a little bit. Just to clarify, it's not to say that there aren't things there, and they aren't reasonable in that criticism that they know. What I was trying to communicate to them is you're privy to this and aware of all this. The American people are seeing an indictment dropped and then seeing him go,
Starting point is 00:14:29 see, it was a hoaxing, very reasonably so, going, see, there's nothing here. And also, question, Chris, and I was thinking about this on the panel. The panel was, you know, moving so fast that you just, you know, you had to keep up. But they're the ones that are supposed to be the fact checkers, right? I would think Legacy Media. So Legacy Media can only report what actually happened, right? Like they can't tell us, yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:52 you know, they didn't indict, but... Well, they can't say a little. There's always context, excuse me, to every situation, right? Nothing's completely black and white where this is the fact, this is untrue, this is true. I guess my question is, I hear what you guys are saying.
Starting point is 00:15:07 At the end of the day, you do want somebody who's going to read the Mueller report. You do want somebody who's going to report. That's what... Which we don't do. That's what I said. First of all, I said, it was like, guys... The point you said about SNL on the panel is great.
Starting point is 00:15:20 That's what I said. I was like, guys, like, you guys are journalists. I'm not a journalist. I never claim to be a fucking journalist. Like, I do a comedy podcast, right? So when we have guests on, that's the standard you should treat it with. When Trump goes on SNL, they don't go, well, why didn't you do a sketch about the Mueller report?
Starting point is 00:15:35 That would have been a good sketch to go. Because you have a standard and expectation for that. And I think what a lot of the traditional media folks are doing or the legacy media folks are, they're very upset that Trump and other figures won't go on their platforms anymore, right? And they're taking that out on us. And it's like, no, you have to find another way for them to go on their platforms. The reason they're probably not going on your platforms is because your reach has diminished.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Sure. So now it's only a risk for those figures to go on a platform like yours. They have nothing to gain because there's not that many people watching and everything to lose because you're going to grill them to shreds about the airport. No, I don't think they are. And that's the other thing. We see J.D. Vance on Sunday morning news. Damn near every Sunday.
Starting point is 00:16:17 We see Trump sit down with certain people. All we ever say to ourselves is, yo, why is nobody asking them these questions? Why is nobody pressing them about this? I think they are asking the question. When? I think the audience isn't there and it doesn't resonate. No, because when people... No, no.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I need an example. Give me an example. I mean... When have you seen Trump as a tough question on traditional media in the past... Every time... Three years. Every time you get a reaction out of him, like, quiet piggy. That's them.
Starting point is 00:16:42 asking him a tough question that he doesn't want to answer. But there's no follow-up. Because he's not going to end. He's not engaging. Like, what's the point? That's the answer. There was another, I think what we're also learning, and I don't know if people will be unbiased enough to admit this, but like, what we're also learning is that like when
Starting point is 00:16:59 people are just upset about interviews that don't go the way that they want to go when it's the person that they hate. Because the person that they hate, or not hate, that they really disagree with, they want to see their opposition crumble under the. pressure of those questions. When it's someone that they really agree with, right? Like when Mamdani goes on Sam Cedar's podcast, they tickle his belly. They're not asking them the hard-hitting questions and tell us how the HBTSA affected the cost of living and the ability to create new housing. They're not jamming all these questions down because they probably agree on a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Now, that's not to say that I agree on a lot of things with Trump, which is saying is I have a different way of doing interviews that I've done with everybody. And you can't put your journalistic expectation on those interviews, as you can when we have a comedy podcast. We're trying to get to know the person. Somebody said something. It was interesting. Somebody said something to you backstage. I forgot who it was.
Starting point is 00:17:51 But they were saying how you were nice to Trump, but you were nice to Mondani too or some shit like that. Was it Ben? I forgot who the fuck we were talking to. My point is, if you watch all the flavoring interviews pretty much have the same. Whoever comes on looks amazing. And that really bothers people when it's politicians because you never want to see the oppositions look amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:10 But when we come people on, I humanize people. That's what I do in every interview that I've ever done. I want to see the humanity in you. I want to hang out. I want to have fun. I want to see if there's anything that we could actually connect on. You're just curious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I'm just curious, too. I just, you know, I'm just not. I like asking, I guess, tough questions. You know what I'm saying? That'd make you end up, that's why I end up in all these Republican ads, I guess. You know what I mean? If people act like that is my fault, I wish me to got to that, too. But people act like that's my fucking fault when I ask these questions.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And it's like, because this person gave a bad answer. And so their political opponent decides to use it in a motherfucking ad for their campaign. I'm the bad guy. The Democrats lost. They are looking for a scapegoat for that anger. Sometimes it's you for asking tough questions. And now all of a sudden, tough questions are bad, by the way. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Before. When they're asked to the party you like, they're bad. Yes, right. When they're asked to the party you're like, you're pushing MAGA conspiracies or stuff like that. That's right. When they're asked to the opposition, you're a hero. That's right. And that's good journalism.
Starting point is 00:19:05 So, like, what I've seen is a lot of times, like, the goalposts shift, a lot. And I wish we could just acknowledge our own biases here and be like, hey, we want to see the people that we like look good and the people we don't like look bad. And when we see the people that we do like look good, i.e. when Mundani comes on the pod, all the Mundani fans were like, this was awesome
Starting point is 00:19:23 interview and we loved to me. It was great. But conservatives were like, this guy's a communist, how dare you have them on here and do that? Like, let's just acknowledge your bias. Oh, yeah, no, it's always like that. You have this journalistic integrity. None of you do. It's like when we bring, I used to always see that when you bring any transgender on the show, any transgender.
Starting point is 00:19:39 you would have people from the transgender community upset because they're like, that's not the right representation of us. And then you would have our regular listeners like, man, what is this shit you got on the radio? Right? So actually it's more of a detriment because our broader audience is like, what are you doing? That's why when flame comes on, people like flame
Starting point is 00:20:02 because flame isn't coming on to do anything but make you fucking laugh. Exactly. And to me, that is what humanizes. people. Yes. And that's what they don't want when it's a political figure they don't like. When it's somebody that is threatening your existence, let's say. We're going to put it in the most hyperbolic terms, right?
Starting point is 00:20:20 They're threatening your existence. I don't want to use that type of language. All right, fine. And I'm going to tell you why, Chris, in a minute. Go ahead. But like, when it's somebody that is threatening, like, your worldview, how about that? When it's someone's threatening your worldview, you don't want to see that person humanized.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You don't want to see that person looking charming. You don't see that person in life. I saw it with Mom Danya. It's like there are a lot of people that don't agree with some of his policies. I don't agree with a lot of his polities, but they saw him looking charming, funny, able to hang, and they were like, fuck, this is bad. People are going to like him.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And it's like, yeah, people might like people you disagree with. That's the reality of the world we live in. Grow the fuck up. The reason I don't want to use extreme language like that no more is because I'm telling politicians that they shouldn't use that type of language anymore because when you throw words around like fascists that you don't actually...
Starting point is 00:21:05 Write the democracy in the end of your existence, but you don't ever really act like that? That was... So, Charlottney brought up a great point in this thing. He was like, look, he's like, what the hell are we doing? He was talking about when Trump and Mom Dani met. He goes, Mom Dani called Trump a fascist, and then they're cozing up and hanging out.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And, like, he was almost reluctant to call a fascist and Trump gave him the out in the meeting. And then two days later, I'll meet the press. They asked him again. Yeah, and he was like, yes, I believe it's a fascist, but I can work with him. And there's no greater way to normalize fashion. Mr. Mayor-elect, just to be very clear, do you think that President Trump is a fascist?
Starting point is 00:21:41 And after President Trump said that, I said yes. So you do? And that's something that I've said in the past. I say today. And I think what I appreciated about the conversation that I had with the president was that we were not shy about the places of disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this moment. And we also wanted to focus on what it could look like to deliver on a shared analysis of an affordability crisis for New Yorkers. You've also said in the past that President Trump has. engaged in a, quote, attack on our democracy. You've called them a despot. Do you still believe
Starting point is 00:22:11 President Trump is a threat to the democracy? Everything that I've said in the past, I continue to believe. And that's the thing that I think is important in our politics is that we don't shy away from where we have disagreements, but we understand what it is that brings us to that table. Because I'm not coming into the Oval Office to make a point or make a stand. I'm coming in there to deliver for New Yorkers. And a few weeks ago, I was asked by a reporter three words to describe myself. I said, New York City. And that's what. animated that conversation. How do we deliver for the people of New York City? I think that some of your supporters would be curious to know. You say you stand by your past
Starting point is 00:22:44 statements that, yes, he's a threat to the democracy. How do you square working with someone who you still think is a threat to the democracy? I think working for the people of New York City demands that you work with everyone and anyone and that you always look to find those areas of agreement while not overlooking the places of disagreement. And so you're trying to me, but this great point is like you're normalizing fascism in that way. And then there's a no, literally. Yeah, yeah. Because he said it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:07 He said he's a fascist and I can work with. I had your back, right? And then what I think, Remneck was, Dave Remnick was like, well, I know him, I've met him, and I've spoken to him, and I knew in that moment that he was performing with Trump. And I go, David, how do you know when the performance starts? Does the performance start with you? Or does the performance start with Trump? That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm sure you would believe it starts with Trump because that fits your worldview better. That's right. But it might. have started with both of you. I personally love seeing politicians that disagree on things come together and be friends. I would love if they didn't call each other extreme things and then rile up their bases to hate the opposition. And we get to the point where there are people literally fistfighting in the street at protest because of this rhetoric that's being pushed down from their leaders. That would be great. You said you love to see politicians that disagree with
Starting point is 00:23:59 each other coming together. Yes, if this was normal political circumstances, but guess who's telling us this isn't normal political circumstances. The politicians. No, the politicians and the media. And we got eyes and can tell. Yes. So, another point I brought up to David, I can't wait to y'all hear this conversation.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Because David was talking about the authoritarian strategy that Trump is using on the media. Like, you know, having the FCC say we're going to pull licenses. Right. Wrong, which we all agreed. What was the other thing? Pursion in the fire. Pulling funding.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Living access. You can go on. Living access is another one. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. which we all... Unanimous agreement.
Starting point is 00:24:33 We all agree that something's wrong with that. But you can't say that's authoritarian strategy, right? And try to ring the alarm on that, but didn't tell, but didn't act like saying it's okay to work with a fascist is fine. So... Because what happens when the word has no meaning? As you say, Chris, they didn't start killing the Jews on day one.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They killed them on day 600. Right. So what happens when we get the day 100, and you've been trying to tell people what's been going on, but you've been using this language like, fascist and authoritarian, but shit is really happening. And they're like, you cry. I give you the counter.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Okay. I agree with you. I think Trump, I think Trump is a fascist bubble. Give us that steel, man. I think that's important. The counter is Trump holds the purse strings to hundreds of millions, maybe a billion dollars worth of potential federal aid. Of course.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Whether you think he's a fascist or not. And you have to try to work with him because the city will essentially collapse and suffer if you don't cut a deal. Look, if Trump walked in that door, I'm walking out the door. I agree. You don't engage with somebody like that. I agree with you 100%. But that's the counter.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Oh, I agree with you, Chris, but here's the thing. But if you know you have to work with him. Don't call him a fascist. If you know that that's part of the job, if you know you're going to have to work with him, you know you're going to have to get access. I think that what we all have to acknowledge is like Trump calling Mamdani a communist riles up support of his base.
Starting point is 00:25:49 There's theater. And Mamdani calling Trump a fascist riles up support in his base. And we have to at least acknowledge that they're using those instruments. So they're both of their advantage. when in reality, the greatest advantage that we would all have is that these people who disagree, major disagreements of the world, are able to work together and maybe pull each other closer,
Starting point is 00:26:11 maybe away from communism and away from fascism by having these conversations. I have some Cuban friends, and when I tell you that they were so, I mean, they hate Zoran Mondani. And they're like telling me about stories their grandparents told them about communism. and Cuba.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah. And they're like, Castro was charming too and blah, blah, blah. Like, they're like, visibly upset about the fact that Zora Mundani is going to be the mayor of New York City
Starting point is 00:26:41 because of all the language that they've used against him calling him a communist and stuff like that. I think the irony in this is Trump emerged as a politician because he wasn't a politician if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:26:53 He convinced people he was outside of that. Yes. Mondani did the same thing. Yes. I'm not a politician. I'm a... I don't think he would ever. say he was. Well, maybe not a politician, but I'm operating in a different space. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And what we're seeing right now is... Did he? Yeah, a little bit. But he was an assemblyman. I'm confused. Why can't Bumdadi think he's a fascist, but also know he has to work with him? Because it looks hypocritical when you're a politician. How about this, Alex? And it takes, it makes the word fascism mean nothing. Let me slice thin. It's, it's as thin as this. It's, I get scared when I see Trump doing these things that are exhibiting authoritarian tendencies. I get concerned because I don't want America to devolve into an authoritarian
Starting point is 00:27:38 leadership and I pray or whatever the political answers and I really hope that that's not what he hopes for the country. I want, I imagine that he honors the Constitution. I imagine he really cares about America be a free and open society. But that's something that scares me. It definitely scares my constituents. That is the political answer that isn't just using the word
Starting point is 00:28:00 this person is a fascist as a label. Gotcha. Okay. So you want them to slice it a little bit thinner? It's the difference between just calling somebody, hey, Miss Rachel's an anti-Semite. And like that was another thing I brought up in the thing. It was like, Miss Rachel's an anti-Semite.
Starting point is 00:28:13 It's like, if you call Ms. Rachel an anti-Semite. That one's way further. What if I call you a homosexual? Shut off. No, I'm serious. If I say Alex is a homosexual to a room full of people, now everyone's getting it. Everybody thinks he's a homosexual.
Starting point is 00:28:27 sucks the cock. Yes, they do. There's no other way around that. Yeah. You're a homosexual. Yeah, yeah. Everybody thinks you take it up to that. I hate this. You understand what I'm saying? I can't say somebody is a fascist and then say, but I'm willing to work with him. Because if that's the case, then you don't really believe he's a fascist are. Maybe that person isn't a fascist because there's no such thing is working with fascism. There's never been a time in history where you can work with a fascism. What if a girl kept saying, oh my God, this guy's gay, this guy's gay, this guy's gay, and then she went and married him. Yes. We'd be like, I don't believe you. You married to human. Torch. You married a human torch. Why would you do that? I mean, you can. But now we don't believe it. I thought he was gay.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yes. You know what I mean? But then what if she was like, I'll actually just be a nice to him for his money. That's the argument they're making with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With Mondania and Trump. And by the way, I have no problem with Zorn Ron Mundan. You thought I was talking about Jessleen and I got. No. What the hell is going on? We've already, we've already settled that one. They were together when they were broke, Alex. Get off the internet.
Starting point is 00:29:27 But up. But, but. They slept on a floor together, which is a luxury place in India, but in America is not. Okay? The reason we even bought this up on... Indians watching that clip, like, you guys had a floor? Damn. The reason we even bought this up on the panel, because we was just talking about the media's role in responsibility when it's up to normalizing a lot of the things that we're seeing. They do normalize hatred.
Starting point is 00:29:51 The shit is confusing. They normalize hatred, and then when you don't normalize it, when we sit here on the pot and try to find a gray area and shit, they're like, you're fence sitting, you're seeing both sides. It's like, yeah, you should fucking see both sides. Half of the people in this country are sitting on a different side. It might be advantageous for you to see what they're feeling. It's unbelievable. Maybe you agree a little bit.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, you know, imagine watching CNN all the time, and they tell you that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy and he's authoritarian and fascists and all of these things. But then as soon as Zoron goes in the White House, they're like, how Zoran Mondani charmed America's unruly uncle. Yeah, uncle. That was literally the fucking headline. Now he's unked. He's just, he's a unruly.
Starting point is 00:30:27 uncle now a week before Thanksgiving. So now you go home and you're dealing with all your unruly uncles. And you're just like Trump. Yeah. You know, he's like, yeah. So you got to, I guess what Charlotteman is trying to say is like, you guys in media have to take responsibility for that shit. You can't just decide what words mean when they benefit you and then act like you never said them when it benefits.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And then when those of us say the type of things we're saying now, act like we're crazy. Which they did for Twitter. We actually giving you to Ali U to grab it and dunk it. But they don't. Here, you know what? That is something. We should stop normalizing words like fascism and communism and saying things that threat to democracy
Starting point is 00:31:03 if they're not acting on it. I brought up to Merrick Garland point. They all looked at me like I was fucking crazy. You were crazy. You know what I mean? Because we was on the Russian Hope thing. I was like, but there's other examples. I'm like, yo, January 6th.
Starting point is 00:31:13 January fucking 6th. You know, Mara Garlane was dragged his feet when he came to prosecuting Trump. So did it really happen to people? When you're telling us that, they was like, well, we all saw. You know what I mean? Yes, we all saw it.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yes. But nobody was hunted count. Yes. So is it Was it really a crime? Yes. I mean a lot of about Storm Capital were
Starting point is 00:31:33 They were held accountable. They were held accountable. They were. The president wasn't. But I guess what he's trying to say is the president was not held accountable for January 6th. They tried.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And then ultimately And when Biden got out of office was the first thing he said, I should have got somebody I should have got a different attorney general that would have actually went after him much sooner. Well, that's politics.
Starting point is 00:31:54 But there shouldn't be politics if it's a threat to the defense. democracy, when are we going to stop acting like it's politics as usual? We have all these conversations about the media normalizing Trump, but we never have conversations about the actual politician is normalizing Trump. And that's what the media should be talking about, how Joe Biden can say somebody's a threat to democracy, but when they win the White House, literally standing outside of it saying,
Starting point is 00:32:13 welcome home. Zoramundani saying, I can work with a fascist. All these politicians have showed up to Dick Cheney's funeral. All these politicians have been like, this is the worst vice president in history responsible for all these, which he was. Right. Right. And then them all showing up his funeral
Starting point is 00:32:30 with their little crocodile tears. Get the fuck. I don't think y'all realize how confusing this shit is. And I think that's... Look, I agree. I don't like seeing it and I don't like it
Starting point is 00:32:38 when they go to the funerals and they kind of put pomp and circumstance over reality. So people go, and then we have these whole discussions where this whole, the first discussion of the whole panel was like, do people trust the media? Should people trust the media?
Starting point is 00:32:51 And it's like, after this discussion, do you understand why they are hesitant to? Did you notice something? When they asked us that question, that was the first question they asked us. It was a yes or no question. Do you trust the media? The only people who said yes
Starting point is 00:33:07 was the legacy media people. Yeah. I mean, I said yes, you should trust the media to deliver to its viewers exactly what they want. So trust them to be untrustworthy. I said broadly no,
Starting point is 00:33:22 but you should trust the people who earn your trust. Yes, which is, yeah. That's what, and that's what I feel? So what should the headline of CNN on CNN been when he went to the White House? Not motherfucking Zorhael. How Zoran Medani charmed America's unruly uncle. What does that even, first of all, what does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like, how do we, like everybody talks about, you know, Zoran playing Trump like a fiddle. We sat on this podcast, Burying Nidious a few weeks ago, and what did we say? We say it would be advantageous for Donald Trump. to play nice with Mundani. Stop giving Trump advice because he took it. But that's my point. Exactly what we said.
Starting point is 00:34:00 We said it. We said Donald Trump should play nice with Mundani because getting in his way just gives Mondani an excuse. Any overreach from the federal government gives Mondani an excuse. Let Mondani fight it out with Albany.
Starting point is 00:34:14 You sit back, wish him the best, and see what happens. That's exactly. How do we know Trump didn't play Mondani? He's the one with the power. What the fuck? Mwandani, Trump don't need Mandani.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's the other thing we were saying is like, part of the discussion was like, you know, who are these media? Because we were talking about Trump's, what is it, authoritarian tendencies when it comes to media, right? And they're like, there are some media platforms that are trying to sell to a bigger conglomerate and Trump can hold that up with the FCC. And then, so what I said to that is I was like, why is that my problem? Why is that you word up?
Starting point is 00:34:50 Why are you willing to sell the trust of your company down the river for a few bucks? If you care about information and news, don't do the sale. You're trying to get rich. And I said the personalities at these platforms, that's when you're supposed to ring the alarm and say, yo, this guy said he's going to take our license if we basically don't do his bidding. They're not going to approve this merger if we don't do their bidding. And then the panel started, the legacy media started talking about what the owners have to do business. Bob Eiger is not just concerned about, you know, ABC is concerned about Disney.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That's not awful. But what I'm trying to say is now if there are corporate interests and financial interests in media, they're going to want to return on that investment. Just like anything else, you invest in a building, you're hoping to sell it for more one day, right? So when we know that that exists and that's part of the system, it's not wrong for the American people to look at it through that lens, right? If we know that the pharmaceutical industry is pumping tons of ads into whatever programs and they're not going to report on anything bad about the pharmaceutical industry, it's no question why we might have a little bit of distrust for that network. But that's also why it's actually complicated.
Starting point is 00:35:59 When people kept looking at the Jimmy Kimmel situation, it wasn't just about Jimmy Kimmel. Bob Eiger has to worry about the NFL and ESPN and the massive book of business he has in front of the FCC chair. Yeah. And so. I'm just going to, I hear you. So the answer to why. Should we trust the media? Should be a resounding no based off everything I'm hearing?
Starting point is 00:36:19 Can I make a question? Can we also just stop saying the media? So you're basically telling us y'all are still putting business over the truth. Over the truth. Over the truth. So don't be surprised when they don't trust you. Over the trust of the people. Don't be surprised when they don't trust you.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Come on, man. It's that simple. What are we talking about here? It's like, to me it's very simple. The media company that goes, we would love to make this merger. We would make a lot of money. But we were going to have to fold on our journalistic convictions in order to do. so because Trump is putting pressure.
Starting point is 00:36:47 So we can't do it. We're just refused to do it. Yes. Guess who we're going to trust? That's fucking platt. That's right. Stand, oh, listen, I think it was Barack Obama who said. Barack Obama was like, yo, somebody's institutions just got to stand up.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Ain't nobody standing up. They're on their knees. So what are we the people supposed to do? You want us to trust the people we see standing in front of Alex. CBS kneeling in front of Alex. Alex got his hand on the back of their neck. And we're supposed to trust. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:17 I can't trust them. That's it. You're not willing to fight for yourself. Why are we fighting for you? Well, I don't know if that's the conversation. We're fighting because we're having our own conversations on our own platforms. I guess what we're saying is legacy media wonders why people are tuned into other outlets now. I meant like more the Harvard dude, like the Harvard summer, whatever like that.
Starting point is 00:37:40 If this guy is willing, is stepping down, but he didn't do anything, he's stepping down because his connections with Harvey, but he truly didn't do anything. He was trying to hook up with a 26-year-old girl or something like that. If you are not even going to fight for yourself, don't expect us to fight for you. It's that simple. If you are not willing to fight for you,
Starting point is 00:37:57 why are we going to fight for you? If you fight for yourself, let's get behind you. Let's show how this is unfair and that you're not even indicted. You're not even involved in this case at all, and you shouldn't have anything stripped from you. And I think it's a cop-out
Starting point is 00:38:10 when they just try to say people are stupid. You know what I'm saying? People are just, It's like, no, actually the way y'all report the news is actually dumb. Bro, you're that? Nobody's keeping an agenda on these networks. Favro had a great point. No, the other, what was the young lady's name?
Starting point is 00:38:29 No, Fabro, remember when we were talking about that, he was like, I think that you're belittling the intelligence of the viewer. Yes. He goes, when a viewer tunes into Ben's show or tunes into our show, they're aware of what they're tuning into. That's right. The assumption from the legacy media is like, people don't know anything and then they turn on the pod with Trump. It's like, no, no, they're aware that they turn on Flager into comedy podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:52 They're aware when we're doing this show here that we're just fucking around busting balls. They're aware. And they're aware when they tune into Ben that he's going to be incredibly sympathetic to conservative values. Obviously, super supportive Israel. They're aware of that. They're not stupid. And I thought that was a great point because I think that the legacy people were more like, these people are being tricked and manipulated.
Starting point is 00:39:11 No. They are fully. A lot of these people are very informed. Very, very, very informed. They actually just probably either want to see another side or they're just tuning in. It's entertaining. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Well, Amna had a good point, too. I can't remember what shit is. What I'm not saying? What was you talking about right before that? It was... By the way, that's another reason I can't really be doing these panels. Because it's so much. Man, I'd be fucking forgetting so fast.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Like, that shit be moving so motherfucking fat. Like, hold on, what happened? That was a good point. Oh, I want to reply to that. Wait, whoa, but you know what? That was a good point, too. What we'll be talking right before that?
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Starting point is 00:40:36 Hi, you're a Safeway PA announcer here. We've got pre-marinated meat. So all that's left is pretending you made it yourself. What else we got, Alex? What else going on in the world, guys? Chris got it. What do we got? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Kids don't need to read. Jesus Christ. Oh, boy. Oh, well, before we click on that, I just saw a headline that said, J-Lo still got it. Before we get the U.S. Santana, can you just click on J-Lo still got it?
Starting point is 00:41:09 You don't even got it. You don't even got it. Yeah, I know, but, you know, I just want to see more. Like, this is just more evidence that J-Lo still got it. But I don't, I haven't seen this picture. But just the fact that that link was there, oh, yeah, salute to J-Lo, 56 years old. God bless me. God bless you.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Wow. J-Lo has defied every single stereotype of the people. Yeah. Oh, my God. Cake, cake, uh, you know. It's just glitched. No, no. Listen, I'm trying to be respectful.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Like, how old is she? She's six. 56, 56 years old. 56 years old. She's in absolutely remarkable shape. I just think it's funny, like the booty standards. Because back in the day, J-Lo had the biggest ass that white people had ever seen. Which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I never thought that. And that's why I said. White people ever seen. She lost a little bit of it. But she lost a little cake. Nah, she never had a little cake. She used to be. Not the way the way Maged Green America made Jay-Lo's cheeks wasn't like.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I think that that's also fair. Yeah, true. But we, white people never seen anything like that. That was a different thing. Really? Yeah. I mean, like, New Yorkers, yes, of course. But like, imagine a white kid grew up in the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:42:21 A lot of flat asses. They don't even know. about the glute exercises. Yeah, yeah. Deadlifts, none of that shit. And then they always had J-Lo across from a white dude. So they're like, oh, shit, she's taking out. It was her and Carson Daily.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Carson can't back that up. Carlson had cheeks? And he didn't have no cheeks, so they're comparing it. What did you mean? Oh, when J-L was B-R-L. Right next to them. Oh, oh, got you. All right, so it's a phenomenal butt.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I just got to say, a 56-year-old with a butt like that is absolutely sensational. We can only all hope and pray. And let's also be clear. J-Lo is aging phenomenally. phenomenally for any race. But the fact that she's Latino, I think you need to put a little more emphasis on this. We need to study some of her DNA, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:01 This is like some Henrietta Lacks. We need to know what the hell is going on. We need to take a little bit of J-Lo's DNA and see if we can mutate this to create some type of anti-aging drug, bro. Because the way she is defying Latino stereotypes. See, body-impacted.
Starting point is 00:43:16 White women always get to freaking, oh, you know, they expire quickly. They age like milk, blah, blah, blah, this and that. Latinos, you know? No, Latinos is after the kid. It's the balloon animal. Spreading. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:30 They got to buy two seats on Southwest. Yeah, it's big. You know, we notice, though. Like, it's okay. We noticed that's a bit of thing. They put their whole body in existence into their children. It's no longer about that they're such great, passionate, loving parents that they put everything.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Like, they don't even matter anymore. It's all about putting love into those kids. I thought it was because they ate two carbs with every meal. I was trying to put a spin on it. I was really trying to put a spin on it. I was really trying to put a lot. Oh, okay. But I think that you might be on a son too. Yeah, I think it's the two carbs with every meal and then once you have a child. Arros con friolis? I think it's just one or the other. That's too much. That's too much. That sounds
Starting point is 00:44:05 like a whole dinner, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? That sounds like a feast. That don't sound like one meal. That sounds like a feast. One person should not have a feast is what I'm saying. And so, yes, we've seen Latino women, you know, get a little big after some children. J-Lo, 56 years old. How many kids you got? I think three or four. Ooh, come on, man. Like, it's a round of applause. It's a round of applause. Round of applause, J-Lo.
Starting point is 00:44:30 You're not clapping, Chris. There's others. You know, we got Sophia Vigara. Oh, yeah, yeah. But so you never had any kids. Or did she have a kid? Eva Longoria. Eva got it.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Oh, yeah, Eva, yeah. But it's a different rating system if you had kids or didn't have kids. If you didn't have kids, you got no excuse. Stay in shape. You know what, that's a good. Shout out all of those women that are defying Latino stereotype. I agree with Eva Longoria.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Selma Hyatt. Selma Hyatt. Sophia Vigara. Sophia Vigara. Shakira. Penelope Cruz. Yo, shout out to y'all, man. Because people watch y'all eat two carbs with every meal for years, have some kids, and they just assume that, you know, you're just going to become, you know, big mommy.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Well, it's not going to happen. It's not. No, no. And you guys are putting in the work. It's not easy. No. That's work right there. Shout out to J-Lo, man.
Starting point is 00:45:20 That's why we can respect it. We can respect her body in the same way we're. respect a bodybuilder's body. They put a lot of work into that. Salute to all Latino women defying stereotypes. You can objectify women over 40, I feel. No, I'm not objectifying any of them. I think. No, it's not objectification. I understand what you're saying. Over 50? We're not objectifying. There's got to be an age. Yeah, we are. We're saying that her body looks incredible. That's not objectification. That's an observation. I like that.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I like that. Yeah, so what's the objectification? The whole time. We're not here. We're not over here lusting over J. We haven't said anything No, it's not sexual. What we're saying is just like a bodybuilder. When we look at a bodybuilder, we're not going, oh my God, it's sexual. We're just going, wow, you've crafted an amazing body. She's crafting an amazing body.
Starting point is 00:46:02 When I was younger, much, much, much, much, much younger. One of my, I used to always say, I want to have five women that I want to suck a fart out of your butt. And J-Lo was on that list. That's subjectification. That's silly. I don't do that type of stuff. But would you still do it?
Starting point is 00:46:14 No, I'm married. Happily married me. Happily married me. You can't suck a fart out of a girl's butt. Okay, stop. You see how fast? You got to quick that turn and that justification? That has come back and now it's like it's a thing.
Starting point is 00:46:25 What do you mean? How to come back? What was that? Bong rips is what he called it. No, no, no, sniffing the seat. Damn, the comedian. Who? Chris D.
Starting point is 00:46:34 What do he say? He was like, oh, yeah. He said after what's-a-face? Sidney Sweeney. He sniffed the seat, but then it turned out to be the guy she did. Yeah, we got to arrest Chris. Yeah, I put Chris in handoff. No, but he sniffed a dude seat.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It was Scooter and Sidney came to the cellar. I saw the clip. You saw the clip. You know what's so crazy? Yeah. Every sniffing seat clip comes across my algorithm. Yeah. I saw Kristen's definitely.
Starting point is 00:47:00 You was first, bro. Oh, gee. You really did. I only did it once. Yeah, all it takes is one. And it was Jay Losey. I only remember, man. Dr. Wimbaugh was there, I was a couple hours before.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I would have journal. Just in case. I forgot. I was so long ago. I know. We're different people now. We're not those humans anymore. We're different people.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Kids don't need to read. Jewel Santana. Click on this immediately. Man, I had to come back and give Jewel's an ongoing today for this. Tell me what he said. Play the clip, Chris. Just financial wealth and literacy and all that.
Starting point is 00:47:42 That shit early because by the time they get the ninth grade, they should be just learning how to start businesses. These kids can't read. But they don't really need to learn how to read. Wait, stop. They ain't going to say that. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You got doing that here. I say that respectfully. I'm not saying that in a way to be literate because you're not supposed to be literate, but you can. What's more going to read or math? Math. Toad you. Maff. I think you could get a, you can listen to a book on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You can still obtain the information. You don't have to know how to read. I'm reading and understanding I believe common sense is better than everything I'm a common sense nigga I'd rather have zero book smarts and common sense
Starting point is 00:48:27 be able to read the room be able to read life be able to read people I try to understand people understand I'm saying like nowadays you can listen to a book I just listen to the 48 laws of power
Starting point is 00:48:36 not true you're about to read your contract else you don't have to listen to that too they got they got apps you can put it in and then to read it to you are you crazy I'm saying Hey I'm saying now
Starting point is 00:48:48 It probably will A y will now That's what I'm saying That's how freaking you You don't have to read You got to be told to you You're going to be So I'm not saying that in a bad way
Starting point is 00:48:57 Like you don't need to read Floyd Mayweather don't read that shit You had a restaurant Like it's bad shit you gotta read You're saying that you just gotta know what you like You ain't got to read the restaurant You can just say
Starting point is 00:49:10 What is this is a steak joint? I want steak I want Would y'all steak come What y'all got? When the way to come, when the way to come, you're like, what come?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Here's the thing, man. And by the way, I even understand what they're trying to say, but they're just wrong. You have to read. And I think that they're conflating a few different things, right? They're saying people who know how to read, right, which is one thing,
Starting point is 00:49:37 and people who actually do read. There's a different. There's some people who don't know how to read, right? And there's some people who don't like to read. I know how to read and I like to read. And when you talk about math and financial literacy, math and financial literacy are two different things, bro. Math is how numbers work.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Financial literacy is how money works. But in order to understand everything I just said, you have to read more. Because you'll have better comprehension skills. You'll have better understanding skills. You know what I'm saying? It gives you a better vocabulary. That's something that you should want as a rapper.
Starting point is 00:50:13 You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I, I didn't understand any of this conversation when they started when they were talking about not knowing, I don't know what they were saying. I don't know what they were saying they don't know how to read or they don't want to read? Like, what was it? I'm assuming they're joking. I imagine it's like, here's a crazy hot take and then just a-oh. Nah, nah, nah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Nah, come on, come, see, you give me people the benefit of doubt again. You see, no. Here's the way to put it. He said I'd rather be able to read a room than read a book, right? Which I get. But the point is the more books you read, more rooms you can do. Absolutely. Because you understand more people.
Starting point is 00:50:49 You have more context. You have more information. One of the best books to read he mentioned, 40A Law of Power by Robert Green. Read the laws of human nature by Robert Green. If you really want to know how, you know, to read a room. You know, when I say things like smart people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from the mistakes of others, that comes from reading what has happened, you know, throughout history to different people
Starting point is 00:51:11 in different circumstances. That's how you can see something and be like, eh, I don't think I should do that because I remember when I read that such and such did this and didn't that happen. So maybe I should stay away from that. You know? Yeah, yeah, I see that 100%.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And maybe I'll take that this, I don't take anything personal, but as a person who not only enjoys reading but literally has a book publishing imprint with Simon and Shoehl. It means a lot to you. Yes, I'm from South Carolina with the first anti-literacy laws
Starting point is 00:51:41 were even fucking created. Does Juelles have kids? Yeah, there's no way he's letting his kids not know how to read. There's just no way. I think he's being silly here and he's on a fucking podcast that's geared towards having a good time
Starting point is 00:51:55 hanging and joking. And they're just saying a crazy hot take and then defending it. That's what I assume is happening. You guys think that they're actually making the argument to... It's a real scenario where people are now like, why do I need these certain skills
Starting point is 00:52:08 because my phone and AI and all these things, different tools can essentially do things for me. That's real. Yeah. You don't want to work out your brain? No, you sure. Like, that's what reading does, crossword puzzles.
Starting point is 00:52:19 All of that stuff works out your brain. Like, it's like working out your fucking muscles in your body. Like, pick up a book, read it. You know what I'm saying? Like sharpen your skills a little bit. Yeah, yeah. When it comes to your mind, especially the older you get. Because, boy, that cognitive decline is real.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Especially nowadays because we're half-ass taking in so much information. Can you talk on that for a second? Meaning like we can be sitting there having a conversation. And I might reach for my phone. And I am listening to you. But I'm also trying to go through my phone. My brain is like, what the fuck are you doing? So it's like, how much shit are we actually remembering?
Starting point is 00:52:52 Because it's not making it into that long-term memory. Well, I guess long-term memories, you just need to continue doing it over time and time. But again, this half listening, half reading something, half taking in a headline, there's so much. Half enjoying the moment. Think about that. Half enjoying the moment. Think about how many great experiences. We've all probably experienced over the last decade.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Now we're just doing this. It kills me. Man. Now we're doing this. Man. Every concert is phones. Man. I bet you can go back and listen to this podcast 13 years ago and we can, we was coming.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Now that shit takes a lot. Yeah. That shit takes a lot to remember. You know what I mean? And I was thinking about that shit the other day. I was like, yo, I'd be wondering, do I take a lot? do I take a lot of things for granted just because this has been our life for so long. You know?
Starting point is 00:53:44 What do you do? I imagine? Well, I was using it in particular with last week. Last week I went from, I was home in Mont's Corner. I was at my home girl, Chris Kailen. She had her Princess Diaries live podcasts. And I went home and did that because that's home team. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:04 Chris is a really dope media personality from South Carolina. Heard her on the radio a few years ago thought she sounded a real. dope and just, you know, put my arm around it, like, you know, help her when I can. So she does this thing called the Princess Diaries Live podcast. So I was there for that. Me and Cartier-Bron, Cardiardier-Brown has a show on the Food Network, cooking, cookbooks. She's got a restaurant in the Charleston airport. Like, she's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And my home girl, AJ, from the We Talk Back podcast, you can subscribe to the Black Effect podcast network. So I went from that to flying to Atlanta to be with John Hope Brian at the Operation Hope, you know, event that he does. And it was me. I interviewed Byron Allen on stage. Then I interviewed Stephen A. Smith, Byron Allen, and Sarah Jake's Roberts. Then I fly back to New York to do breakfast club and then we go do this panel today. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:52 But it's just like, crazy. I ain't going to remember none of this shit Friday. You know what I'm saying? One of these things would have been the biggest thing in your year. You see what I'm saying? I'm not going to remember none of this shit Friday. And I'm going to be sitting around probably texting with shows and be like, yo. You, somebody told me that they was on a panel, yo,
Starting point is 00:55:11 and they was talking to Stephanie room and shows. He was like, that was us. I'm like, oh, shit. That was, I'm not even, like, that's literally. Yeah. We do so much shit. He had to remind you on the thread that thought was even happening today. Yeah, he was like, you want to do brilliant idiots in the morning Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I was like, bro, we got this New York Times thing. He's like, oh, yeah, we could do it after that. That's great. And you know what was so crazy about that? My assistant had just sent me to text and it was like, wow. You got to do the, but she didn't stay in New York Times. She said whatever the name of it. Deal book.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah, yeah. My mind didn't even connect the dots. But your body. You see what I'm saying? Telling you yes. You see what I'm saying? But you know, another thing? And I said this Saturday, yo.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Saturday we was out in South Carolina? In South Carolina. And, you know, we go on our edibles and we drinking. And somebody said something. Somebody said something about politics. because Michael goes, I don't want to talk politics. And I go, me neither. I just want to be dumb.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Let's just be dumb right now. Like, everybody's just get dumb. That's why you get high and drink. I just want to be dumb. Yeah. I want to sit here and be dumb. Right. And just yell out random shit.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Like, I'm geeked up looking for an eater. Hey. Hey. You know what an eater is? Hey. You know what an eater is. Do I? Alex, you're an eater?
Starting point is 00:56:33 No. How are you not an eater? No. You're not an eater, bro. No, I'm not. Chris, you got a fiancé and you're not an eater? Nope. Chris said he's an eater.
Starting point is 00:56:40 You got damn right, Chris is an eater. You're happily married man. Yeah. You're not an eater? Come on, you got to be an eater. I'm embracing it because I want it to offend me. I don't like the nickname girls be giving us when it comes to fucking eat. What's wrong with being a munch?
Starting point is 00:56:52 I don't like that. Why don't you like that? I don't know. What's wrong in munching? I did the Paul Mott's podcast, but you probably ain't going to see for another month because, you know, they put out their episodes weeks, weeks later. But they had a good, they called it WWE. What is that?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Worldwide eater. And I like that because that makes me feel like a champion. Wait, wait, wait, why are you a worldwide eater? Just because. It just makes you feel better to just be called a random eater. You don't want to just be a eater. You don't want to just be a eater. You want to be special.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah, yeah. WWE worldwide eater. You don't want to be a worldwide eater, Alex, a champion? Get you a motherfucking belt? You need a belt. With a fucking mouth on it. They basically just calling you like Tiana Trump. Yeah, what does she do?
Starting point is 00:57:38 She's a worldwide dicks of it. But that's sucking dick, see, God, we're not talking about sucking. Yeah, but the opposite of that. Listen, I don't, I don't want to be that. I'm not knocking what you've got to taste for. I'm not knocking what you got to taste for. It's the opposite. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:57:50 I'm just saying, listen, I'm just saying, why would you even bring up this stuff? Exactly. We're talking about eating. Why are the vagina? They're just saying, oh, you're a world-renowned pussy eater. Like, that's not. But what made you think about sucking cox? Word is born, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Because when you talk about porn stars, they don't know, they don't know, they don't have no guy point stars that I like, yeah, Dan. We're talking about pleasure in our wives over here, man. Just tell us what's up. It's okay. Hey, man, just tell us what. What happened, man?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Acox wife did you want to not get married? What happened, bro? You want to be... Yo, when you're locking it down, yo? What are you locking it down? What happened, you know? I'm never going to tell the world. I ain't going through that shit.
Starting point is 00:58:28 That shit is crazy. What happened? I didn't realize we had Akash's picture? I don't like. I don't like what they were doing to Akash the past few weeks, man. Yo, free Akash, man. Free Akash, man. Free Akash.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I haven't seen the new episode of Flagrin, man. Did it go well? You got to watch it, man. We had him and just sleep. Well, ooh, am I ruining? Everybody already knows by now. Yeah, just watch it. I just don't like it because it's such a sensitive subject.
Starting point is 00:58:53 That's his wife. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Public. Well, can I say what I want to say? Of course. This is what brilliant is about.
Starting point is 00:59:03 All I want to say is simply this. Keep your wife off the end of the internet. Why does your wife have a microphone in her face? Not allow your wife to start a motherfucking podcast, bro. Yes. Okay, they can be one entertaining in this family. This shall be me. I'm the comedian.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I'm out here on this row and I'm out here getting the money. Let me use some of this money to help you do some other things, yo. because you don't need a microphone in your face because you're going to fuck around and ruin us. All right. Not just you, but go watch the episode. We had a great talk with Akasha Jesseline, and it was awesome, and it was very funny.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Because I don't want to have to explain, because that's my wife, I'm always having my wife's back. Yes, as you should. But guess what? And so much of this shit was bullshit. And then there are things that she said. Tell me what was bullshit. She was a virgin.
Starting point is 01:00:00 She was never a horror. So that video of her talking about sleeping with a bunch of men was not real? She never said she slept with it. She said I was popping my pussy at frat parties, and she's a sheltered Indian girl who thought that meant dancing. And then the rest of us were like, what the fuck did you really mean by that? So we had that conversation.
Starting point is 01:00:16 But all like her being a whore completely out of context. Didn't she talk about? Say it, say, say it. Literally we discussed everything on the pot. Didn't she talk about sucking cocks? No, no. You never said that. There was never a video about that?
Starting point is 01:00:29 She said the Akash's balls smell like a homeless person. Damn. Not Steph Curry with this shot boy. They call her chicken curry. God, damn. Why would she say that? That's a good point. So we had those conversations.
Starting point is 01:00:46 What if? Go watch the episode. My brothers. Clears up a lot of shit. My brothers. And also, she just acknowledges like, yo, that was stupid. Like, I shouldn't be fucking shared. I can see why the audience thought it was this thing.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Like, there was a lot of stuff. Well, delete it. Delete the podcast. Delete ours? No more influence. No, I'm talking about her. Oh, we're working on. No influences.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I don't want, no, no, if, don't, you don't let your wife be influences. Don't let your wife be podcasters, man. It's not about letting. No. Let. No. No. Let.
Starting point is 01:01:14 No. There's certain things we can't do. Yeah. Because we know that it's detrimental to our situation. You should just encourage your wife not to. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Rules. Yeah, some things, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Some things when they're detrimental to us, no. Can she encourage you not to cheat? They do that. No, no, she tells you don't fucking cheat. How well did that work? Very well. Very well. It made me stop. Maybe if she was encouraging to a little more. It's the set, right?
Starting point is 01:01:46 You don't think your wife was like, get these microphones away from the radio host this motherfucker out here. Destroying our marriage. But no, that's true. But all of that is true. You are the Jesselene's thing. Yes, all that is true. I'm in the fucking radio station putting on an axe, sniffing steeds, whiling the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Yes, embarrassing myself and embarrassing my fucking way. Yo, I'm glad that we, I'm glad we can have this intervention here. Absolutely. So, yes, it's true. So, yes, Christmas spirit. So I'm saying all of that to say, women learn from my mistakes. Stay the fuck off these podcasts. Don't be on these motherfucking podcasts.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Don't be an influencer, okay? I know she wouldn't do it, but suppose your wife said to you, listen, me and my friends make these great conversations together. Black effect. I want to be on Black effect. I want to write a book. I want you to champion black female voices. Put me on black.
Starting point is 01:02:43 A book I wouldn't mind. If it's a book about... Because you can edit it. Hold on. We take it that part of it. You know, I can just call me a regular eater. You know why I like this? I want to be.
Starting point is 01:02:57 be a worldwide. You know, you put W-Tubby. All right. But no, see, that's different because books are well thought out. You know what I'm saying? You're actually sitting down. You're fleshing out ideas. You have a concept. You have a topic. You have an agenda that you're actually pushing through this book. Like, a book can actually help somebody, especially if you're sharing your real life experiences. You know what I mean? But just getting on a podcast, trying to make jokes, and I'm the comedian? Yes. No. Yeah, you sure made him laugh.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Crazy. You made him laugh for the last few weeks. You gave the internet. Hell of content. A lot of it. No, man. No. No.
Starting point is 01:03:38 What was your favorite name? Jada Pinkett Singh. Jada Pinkett Singh. That is phenomenal. Whoever came up with that shit, this is just... Jada Pinkett Singh was fucking hilarious. They said her podcast is called the Red Dot Table Talk. Red Dot Table Talk is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 01:04:03 By the way, man, there's another thing before we go to commercial, man. Man, these racist jokes be so good. They are. They may be rooted in racist stereotypes. Like, come on, man. You got to laugh at somebody. We asked her. Was it any of the shit funny?
Starting point is 01:04:17 She was like, nah, red dot table talk. Red dot, yo, Jada Pinkett's the host of Red Dot Table Talk. That's fantastic. Man, get that man in a fucking raise, yo. Yeah. Get a drummer some, Alex. He gets the one. Seriously.
Starting point is 01:04:31 That shit was good. There was another one. What was the other one? Acos 22 made me laugh. Oh. Adam 22 sent me a picture of Akash's face put on to Adam. I got to get this. But yeah, they were cooking.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Nah, somebody sent another one. They was like just because you look like, what's the dude from the Simpsons? Apu. Just because you look like Apu. Yeah. Don't be a... A simp son?
Starting point is 01:04:58 Oh, there was a, yeah, it was a song. No, no, no, no. There was a song that was done. And then somebody said, like, we took down the song, which is absolutely bullshit. We've never done that ever. But, like, and one of the bars was, yeah, just because you want to be Apu, doesn't mean you have to be a simp, son. Damn. That's a bar.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Damn. I think the guy's name is Crack Amico. Yes, crack. Oh, he makes a bunch of. Yeah, he does a lot of, like, roast-y, rap. In the... Do we want to? No, I don't know if we're gonna play...
Starting point is 01:05:31 Sorry, Craig. We don't think we're gonna play the whole thing right here. Don't want to watch it so bad, though. No, I don't. I mean, I really... I'm gonna be honest with you, man. It's hard for me to watch people I know go through this kind of shit, yeah. Even though I know it comes with the territory. It was like...
Starting point is 01:05:47 This was all internet and it was fucking... I mean, it's... I mean, it comes to the territory. I get it. I just... I'm not... I don't like to see it. No, it's horrible. Especially when, you know... I can't get no jokes in, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Like, at least, you know. Yo, this motherfucker. No. Yo, you are evil. Oh. Oh, so everybody's going to have fun with us. Everybody can have fun with us. You know, that's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I see. I see how it is. Yeah. I'm texting y'all like, yo, Akash good, yo. Akash good. I had a lot of people reach out. That's how I knew he was getting fucked up with, like, people that are not connected to this at all were message me. Yo, is Akash?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Okay. Yeah. This is the first Thanksgiving I had that didn't end in an argument because three hours was just talking about that whole situation. Really? Yeah. Because it was just, it was, yeah. It's just like the situation got its own, like, reality. And then once it takes its own reality, you know how when you realize it's dumb? You realize it's dumb when you're sitting around trying to explain it to somebody else. Because we even at the panel today, you got all of these distinguished journalists. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who just know, they've been hearing something. So they're like, these are the most refined. Journalists in America all sitting around. And I'm just like, all right, so here's what actually happened. The editor of the New Yorker, Fonzays.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That came up at the panel. And I'm listening to this show to talk, so I'm like, oh, so wait, she wasn't talking about sleeping with other guys? Exactly. Andrew was like, no, you know, she's just saying she popped that pussy. And Stephanie goes, pop that pussy. I don't think pop that pussy. I don't think that's something. should say. It's like you see
Starting point is 01:07:29 my things start to like get their old reality because the shit happens with us every single fucking week, right? So, but it is, you do really feel for somebody when it's their wife. I know they put their relationship out there and that's fucking dumb. Don't do that. And I respect that he addressed it.
Starting point is 01:07:45 You know what I'm saying? Oh, hell. You know, he's going to address it. I don't give a fuck. Stephen A. Smith, when I was on the panel with Steve Nate Smith this week, man, it was funny because Stephen A. Smith said, you know, he's on every day. He's on every day for take. He's on his podcast every day, but he doesn't address, you know, everything that people say about him. And I'm like bullshit. I listen. Yeah, Stephen, come on. But, but, but here's the point.
Starting point is 01:08:09 He was like, I addressed about 2% of what people actually say about. Yeah. And he was like, I only address it when it benefits me. Yeah. And it's right. And it's true. The thing about it. Show that we addressed a hundred percent. We never have a podcast. If we addressed a 100% of what people say about us. We all only address 2%. I barely address that. I'm like Stephen A. I address it when I think it's beneficial for me.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Or when it's so big, you can't ignore it. Like, this is one of those things where it was just so big you can't ignore. Like, us just pretend I have a podcast talking about like, oh, the boats of Venezuela. Like, we all really want to know. It depends. Because for me, it's like if I've already addressed it,
Starting point is 01:08:49 the way I want to address it. Let me ask you a question. What was a more precise targeted strike? The boats in Venezuela. I don't want to say it. I wasn't to say it, but I was not going to say it. Or what? You're going to say Akasha's wife's doc?
Starting point is 01:09:04 God damn, bro. What? No, I wasn't going to say that. What? She doesn't have that. Oh, she don't? No. Oh.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I mean, no. I didn't fucking know. How does it stoole? I didn't know pay no attention. It's one of those things like you don't really pay no attention. tells you it's like the Mandela effect like she don't don't don't do that don't fucking do that is it Berenstein bears or bernstein bears oh my god let's pay some bills let's do it all right let's get back to the show we got church announcements hesey
Starting point is 01:09:54 rachel announcements Rhode Island March I think it's 28th I'm going to be there at the Rhode Island uh comedy festival and I will see you out there It was a city that we did not go to last tour, but we'll see you there. All new material. I'll see you there in March. You get tickets at DeAndrewshols.com. Boom.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Alex, you got church announcements? I have a show. It's called AM Mornings. Okay. And so it's a playoff of things that exist now, like radio, where you have people who call in for whatever topic you have. But just a new age take on it,
Starting point is 01:10:25 everybody has to show their face. Because I just hate the fact that people are online and you either have bots or you just have people being super polarizing and I think we're all more alike than we care to believe. And so, yeah, my show, A.m. mornings, you call in every Sunday, 11 a.m. That's my... Dope.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah. It's fun. I've been doing it a couple of practice episodes. We have... We're up to, like, 300 people signed up right now, and it's like, it's moving. On what platform? Patreon. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Dope. Congratulations, brother. My church announcements, make sure you go out there, free-order Arsenio Hall's new memoir, Arsenio. It'll be out next year. be a black privilege publishing my book in print go out there and pre-order two chains the voice in my head is god that'll be out next year as well go out there and pre-order tell death do we parent by just hilarious and listen man um stocking stuffers christmas is right around the corner I don't listen to you else in antenna. Reading is very important.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Okay, go out there and purchase some books, man. We got Don Staley Uncommon Favor on them bookshelves right now. Cheryl McKissack, the Black Family who built America on those bookshelves. Decisions from Mandy and Weezy on those bookshelves, man. So make sure you go pick up those books for the holidays. Okay. Now, Odell Beckham, I thought this was interesting. Yeah, what happened?
Starting point is 01:11:44 Well, I think sometimes people live their life as they should, right? They live their life and they talk about their experiences and they talk about what they went through. And I think they forget that when they're on these podcasts and these other platforms and it goes on the internet, they're talking to 99% of people who don't know what the fuck they even talking about. So, O'Dell Beckham was talking about the struggles of making NFL money. and, you know, he got outraged because he said that $100 million, it's tough to make that last forever. Can we play the clip?
Starting point is 01:12:24 Right here today, as we speak, I'm going to be straight for the rest of my life. No question, right? I don't think everybody is in that. And when you've sacrificed your whole life to get here and you're like, yeah, I play 10 years in the league. And I always explain this to people. Like, bro, you give somebody a five-year, $100 million contract, right? What is it really?
Starting point is 01:12:42 It's five years for 60 years. We're getting tax. That's 12 a year, you know, that you have to spend, use. Save, save, invest, flunt, like, whatever, however. Just being real. I'm going to buy a car. I'm going to get my mom in my house. I'm going to do everything costs money.
Starting point is 01:13:02 So if you spending $4 million a year, that's really $40 million over five years, eight a year, you know. And now you start breaking down the numbers. It's like, that's a five-year span. of where you're getting $8 million. Can you make that last forever? And you always hear the people who ain't us and ain't been in the position. Like, oh, well, that would last a lifetime.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Well, you're not getting no sympathy for that one, my boy. Right. That's number one. Number two, yes, you can make $40 million last forever. All right. 60 million, but yeah. Now, I will say it's interesting conversation because I always say the best thing that ever happened to me
Starting point is 01:13:42 was I got money much later. You know what I'm saying? I was at John Hope Bryant event this week. And that was one of the questions that somebody asked me. They was like, you know, yo, what's the worst financial decision you ever made? And I honestly haven't made one. And the reason I haven't made one is because, as I always say, small people learn from their own mistakes,
Starting point is 01:14:03 wise people learn from the mistakes of others. And the fact that I got money much later in life. And, you know, I've never had devices that other people have. Like, you know, it's easy to say things like, I don't want no Bentley. I don't want no phantom when you can't afford it. All right? Yeah. But you really know you about that life.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Yeah. When you can afford it, I don't want that shit. Like, that shit don't do nothing for me in any way, shape, or form. I literally like, you know, helping other people in some way, shape, or form. Like, I would be that type of philanthropy. When you hear these people, when you hear these stories about, oh, this guy gave half of his wealth to such and stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah. I know for a fact I would be that kind of person because I'm that kind of person now. So whatever you do with $100, you're probably going to do with $100 million.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Whatever you do with $1,000, you're probably going to do with, you know, a thousand million. I don't know what the fuck that is. Also, he didn't just make the $100 million. He got the, I'm sure he got sponsorships. I'm sure he did commercials. I'm sure he got, you know, all these other different things. There's like an engagement fee. There's tons of other ways to make money when you're, but what I'm not.
Starting point is 01:15:11 think is really important and what I think is unfortunate in terms of like the messaging here, it's like if you're making $100 million over what, what is it, five years? Yeah. Yeah. So that's $20 million a year. Yeah. Right. Now, again, he has taxes getting taken out and he also has his agents, you know that already, managers and all that. Of course, yes. But let's, let's just do, he said 60. Let's just do 50, right? So you're getting like 10 a year. You can just let $10 million sit in a bank account. And at a very conservative rate, let's say you get 5% back, right?
Starting point is 01:15:45 What is that? $500,000. Right? That's what you're just going to get on interest is $500,000 every year, right? You can find a way to live a $500,000 a year.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Can you flash and do the bling and buy the fucking rolls, roosters, and all these things? This guy has a $9 million car collection. Why? Okay, exactly. So, like, there's some personal accountability that needs to be held here. It's like that amount of money
Starting point is 01:16:07 you can live for the rest of your life and your family never has to touch a single thing, but you have to live a different lifestyle than maybe the one that you want to live. And when you're a young kid and there's these things that you always dreamed about buying, I understand how you feel compelled to buy them. But let's not put out the messaging like,
Starting point is 01:16:21 you can't do it. Like you can, you just chose to buy frivolous shit. They're not assets that you can, you know, increase in value over time. I like spending money on experiences. Yeah. I'll ball out on a vacation all day long. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:33 Like, that's cool. But the phantoms and the ghost and the jewelry and all that. Like that, why? I don't have the same thing. That ain't, that's not in me. You know what I mean? I, like, right, I shop at Aegeanam and Zara when I want to splurge.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Okay? Other than that, I'm ordering off Koofandi on Instagram. I'm ordering off T-Moo. You know what I mean? I keep tags on my clothes to take, I keep the tags on the clothes from Zara at him to take back. Yeah. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like, who can I get, like, I'm trying to impress.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Some of these cars you can probably sell back. But there's other questions, like, why wouldn't you just lease the car? Like, where's your financial advisor that goes, hey, you're going to get bored of this car in a year? You like flexing. Lease it for a fucking year. Then give it back. How much driving are you even doing yourself? You know, like a lot of this, I think, is keeping up with the Joneses.
Starting point is 01:17:19 And when you're with really, oh, yeah. So it's like, all the other really wealthy and successful people have these things. They have a big boat. You're like, all right, well, I'm going to get a boat when I go to St. Bart's. It's like, well, maybe you got to hang out your boy's boat. And he ain't keeping up with the Joneses. You know what I'm saying? Keep it up with the birthday.
Starting point is 01:17:34 These guys are also athletes. They're competitive by nature. They want to have the best. They want to be seen as the best. And they shoot themselves in the foot. I mean, it's like... Hey, when I heard Marshawn Lynch say that he never spent the football check,
Starting point is 01:17:47 that shit puts so much in perspective for me. I heard just years ago. Yeah. And it's like when you start having multiple streams of income, if you put yourself in that position, God bless. If you have one of those screams of income that takes care of everything, your lifestyle and all of that, all of that other stuff should be great.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Yeah. Like, that should be just money that you're saving, putting in your S&P 500. Protect your family. Putting in your, you know, savings account that builds interest. Like, that's what you should be doing with that money. Doesn't mean you can't buy things. You can buy assets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:17 You can buy property. Property. You can buy, you know, a fucking car wash. Like, there's the dentist thing you can go out, but they're not going to be. Crystal. Crystal franchises. But they might not be super glamorous and successful. And I think that's something he got a record with, which is like, you want to buy
Starting point is 01:18:31 glamorous, boozy shit. And now you probably don't have as much money as you could have if you invested that money and not risky investments. I'm not buying nothing that can't appreciate with value in some ways. There's nobody that makes $100 million in their life that should ever not have enough money to spend for the rest of their life. Plain and simple. That's the end of the discussion.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Full fucking stop. Straight up. Full fucking stop. If you can't, if you can't live off that, you really are doing something wrong. Speaking of which, Trump wants to get rid of income tax. Now are we talking. No, we not. Why would we not?
Starting point is 01:19:04 No. Why not? I did some research on this because, you know, everything sounds good in theory. But yeah, what this guy said in this tweet, hold on, let's listen to you. Because the money would take it in is so great, it's so enormous that you're not going to have income tax to pay. Whether you get rid of it or just keep it around for fun or have it really low, much lower than it is now. But you won't be paying income tax. We've slashed $1 trillion.
Starting point is 01:19:29 So here's an interesting thing about this. Ready? Everybody's going to, oh, he's just taking care of his rich. friends, blah, blah, blah. His rich friends don't make income. They make capital gains. Steve Jobs got paid a dollar a year in income or whatever it was from Apple. All these guys are making their money on the stock market or they have stock options for the companies they work for. They find these ways to get out of the income tax hustle because income tax at that point is 50%. O'Don Beckham Jr., exactly what he was talking about. As an athlete, you make income.
Starting point is 01:20:02 LeBron makes income, right? The owner of the lake, makes capital gains, right? Because the Lakers is probably held in some entity, and then when they sell it, you're buying the entity that owns it. And then you only pay the capital gains, which is a far- Or they keep taking loans against the-
Starting point is 01:20:16 Oh, this is the greatest hustle of all time. They take loans against their assets, and loans are tax-free. So I understand the immediate reaction to this, which is, oh, the rich are just going to get richer. It's like, yeah, of course, there are tons of people that are making lots of money that will benefit this.
Starting point is 01:20:31 But like the billionaire class, the Elon's in them, they're not making fucking, yes, they're making some income. but the majority of their wealth is held up in this thing that is outside of the taxation system. So if you want to find a way to tax that shit, let's talk. I'm all about talking about that. It's not the rich. Oh, tax the trillionaires, the billionaire.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Like if you want to find a wealthy, the real, real money. But this kind of shit? Yeah, absolutely. This right here is going to benefit no. I thought the pushback to this was the fact that even if you get rid of income tax, all the additional money you have to spend because of his tariffs, is the same as paying income tax. I wrote some of this shit now last night.
Starting point is 01:21:09 But then it's your choice. Like you could choose to not buy shit if you don't want. Now, this might be horrible for the economy. Like it's like food prices. Sure. It would be terrible for the economy. Well, you're already going to buy that anyway and now you have income tax.
Starting point is 01:21:20 This is why it's important to read kids. Raising the price. This is not going to happen. We can't, I don't think that our like financial system would exist with that income tax. I think no. I don't think it's possible. What I'm saying is the knee-jerk reaction
Starting point is 01:21:33 that I think many people, myself included, first felt was, oh, this is just going to help the rich people. The rich people already aren't paying income tax. They've found ways around it. Wait a minute. First of all, a rich person, okay? You and I are just regular. You're not there.
Starting point is 01:21:46 We're just regular rich. When I first heard that, the first thing I thought was, shit, because it sounds good in theory, right? Imagine you didn't have to pay no income tax. Whoa. You know what I mean? How chunky those checks would look. But then it's like, nah, like when you actually do a little bit of research on, right? First of all, the government loses this main source of money.
Starting point is 01:22:03 That's what I'm saying. It's not possible. Overnight. And so they said they would have to rebuild around some type of new taxes. Like it would be a national sales tax or the price of goods and shit would go up. It'd be like a wealth tax. He's saying the tariffs are going to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:16 But the government loses 50% of its money. Right? So that's massive cuts to every major program. Medicaid, Medicare, federal education funding, infrastructure, how their programs, snap, veteran services, grants to states. It's not happening. Police, roads. America would be a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:33 shithole country. Yeah. Right? Yeah. This is like his 50-year mortgage scheme. He's just throwing shit against the wall, hoping to distract from the shape that the economy's in. He knows the economy is the problem.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Right. So he's just trying to come up with a, you know, whether it's here's going to be, you know, $1,000 to every citizen or now with the Dells, you know, they're going to give everybody $2,000 as charity, right? $250 to $25 million. These are schemes. These are hustle.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I don't understand that either. Why I got to go through the treasury? I like that one. I like, I don't say. But why are through the treasury? Why did that money have to go through the treasury?
Starting point is 01:23:10 It's like they're going to... That's the point. If they want to make... Well, because... They're going to open it up. He's not going to pay taxes now because he's giving away this massive tax-free charity gift.
Starting point is 01:23:22 So it's saving him money. Now, granted, it'll go into the pockets of people, but they're routing it through the government. Right? It's also a... But if you want to give the kids... I think this is the wrong one to be upset about it. Maybe the 50-year mortgage.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Yeah, 50-year mortgage, I think, is a little bit better. It's like you save a couple hundred dollars a month, but now you're going to be paying so much more over this time. And they're going to raise interest rates because now they're exposed to more potential losses for another 20 years. By the way, I'm not mad at the $6 billion. I just want to know why are they going through the Treasury. The Treasury is not a nonprofit. Like, it's not a foundation. Because they're going to give each kid a investment account.
Starting point is 01:23:58 The idea. The person doesn't get the money. It's just an investment account. So it's really just taking money and investing in a investment account. it back into America. No big deal. I said this on the podcast. It's fine, but they took another idea from us? It is no big deal. This is what we do. We're the brain child or brain. You know the problem? Talk to me. We really don't remember none of this shit. That is a problem. You know what I'm saying? Yes. I think it's a good idea because the reason why I thought was good is because it gets one of the big
Starting point is 01:24:22 chasms in the economy right now is that there are people invested in the market seeing these massive gains over the last decade. And then the majority of the people, at least 50% of the people in the country or not invested at all. So they keep on hearing the Biden administration say the economy's great. And they're like, what do you mean? It's fucking great. It's not great at all. I'm not invested in Viti. I'm not invested in Palantir. I'm not invested in these companies. I don't have no fucking stocks. Exactly. I hate it when they did that shit. So this is the thing. So these kids now get this invested at a very young age. And ideally, the money is invested in these companies and these companies continue to grow. And by the time they're 18, hopefully if America continues to thrive and
Starting point is 01:24:58 succeed. Now they're invested in the success of America, which we would want every kid in America to be invested in, ideally. And it will start an account for a kid as soon as they're born. And so now that gets everybody more invested in stock market. Or not you're aware of it. Now you have financial literacy because you rely on it. I got, I got it. That's actually a good thing. I got to see it to believe. Of course, we have to. I still don't even know. Have we met any of these military people who got some of that money, that $130 million that was supposed to go for them? I don't know. During the government shutdown.
Starting point is 01:25:30 To support the Pentagon? Yeah, we forgot about that. You know Donald Trump's organization is getting $150 million for one of those casinos in Queens? I can't. Oh, it's a fact. I'm not making this. Oh, no, no, I'm not denied that. I'm, like, conflicted about putting a casino in New York City.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Are you not conflicted about your president taking $150 million? Oh, yes, of course. We're about to get three of them. Well, I think three or three, but I don't know if any of them, three, I don't know if any of them are actually going to be a rack. I think that there's like land that was set aside. Oh, no, no, three is coming. You really can't? Oh, yeah, they proved it.
Starting point is 01:26:04 You got to prove. Yes, Trump could receive $115 million tied to Bally's $4 billion casino plan at the ferry point golf course in the Bronx. Why? I don't know exactly. I don't fucking know why. Does he own the land or something? What is he?
Starting point is 01:26:19 I have no fucking idea. I know he has a golf course up there in the Bronx. I don't know. Is that the one? When you come off, what's the bridge? Is it the White Stone? Yeah, you see that? with a lot of the little...
Starting point is 01:26:29 Maybe. I don't know. But yeah, I don't like the way that sounds. But if he owned the land before he was president and they're buying the land from him, then that just... I really don't know. The projects included...
Starting point is 01:26:39 Shout out to Nott's. Yeah, Bally's paid the Trump organization, $60 million. Okay, I get... Really? Yeah, Nause is part of it. Yeah. That's why, man, salute the... I really think a casino in Times Square
Starting point is 01:26:49 would have been great, guys. So we had this debate. Yeah. Okay. So it's like... There's obviously concerns with a casino. Okay, let's look at like the fun stuff, right? It's you're out, you're having dinner with your boys.
Starting point is 01:27:04 You're like, do we want to go out? I don't know if I want to go to a nightclub. Fuck, you want to go to the casino and just hit the tables for a little bit? You want to go to the casino and like, oh, maybe there's a little party there or whatever. Like, it's something to do that's open 24 hours. It's kind of interesting. There's something going on. It's interesting.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Then the knocks, of course, are, and this isn't, this is less for, a city like New York because there's so many tourists. But when you have a city that people aren't going to a lot that has a casino, then it's like its own people are spending the money in the casino. And then the idea is that like the casino is extracting the wealth of the people, which you don't want. When you want people coming to New York City and millions traveling all the time and you want them already spending money in restaurants and dump a little bit more over there where people have jobs, they work. And then you're like, okay, that could potentially be good. Times Square is a fucking tourist attraction.
Starting point is 01:27:57 But wouldn't they be dumping less in the local economy because they're going to, traditionally, everybody loses at a casino ultimately. So the idea is that like if you really want to do it right, you would do it kind of how like the Nets Stadium did or in like where you have like local businesses have representation there. So you have the SELCA, the diner gets to have a place there. And that's what the Nets. And that's what I would do if I'm like a local legislator.
Starting point is 01:28:18 I'd be like, okay, you want a casino in fucking Times Square? You're not going to put McDonald's and all these other things in here. You're going to put our local businesses in there. So they can thrive. I used to see all the Flans. Like, they had them. Like, it was, I thought it would be a good thing. And we act like this hasn't worked in different places.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Like, it clearly works in Vegas, right? Do you have any knowledge why the Times Square one didn't go through? Yeah, because the local, what was this? What's called? The CAC, I think it's called. I can't, I don't remember what CAC stands for. But they voted it down. They voted it down for the two.
Starting point is 01:28:46 You know why. Broadway. Broadway wasn't really fucking with it like that. They had some people from Broadway, like, oh, what's my guy? name. Fuck the actor. His face is in my mind. Wendell Pierce. Okay. Wendell Piss. I'm sorry, Wendell, Southingel. Wendell Pierce was down for it, you know what I mean? Because he saw a lot of the things that, you know, Rock Nation and S.L. Green wanted to do in regards to the casino and what they wanted to do for Broadway. But Broadway felt like it was going to bring
Starting point is 01:29:15 too much, too much traffic, crime, and they thought that it would be taking away from the essence of Broadway. I love Broadway, right? I go to a lot of Broadway plays, but the Broadway audience is aging out, and it's only but so many times you're going to go to see a Broadway play, you know? They should be very concerned.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I was in Atlanta earlier this week, and my greta was telling me how she came to New York to come see Hamilton. But that's the type of people who are still coming to see those plays. Like, people come from out of town to see Hamilton and MJ the musical and the Lion King and all of this stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:29:54 It's like, yo, I've seen probably everything on Broadway at least once. How many times do I need to see? Yeah. You know what's so bad? Every new show that came out this year, they're all in the red. There's not a single successful new show on Broadway. But it takes time to build a show.
Starting point is 01:30:08 They said this is the first year that all not. Usually Broadway shows that would take a decade to make money at or something. What other investment is in Times Square? There's no investment being made in Times Square. Times Square, New York City should look like Abu Dhabi. This is made a big investment in Time Square. Square. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Disney. Disney has over the last 15 and 20 years. As far as like what, Broadway and stuff like that? Like lying kids. But those are the only ones that people go and shit. You need something else, man. Like the casino would have been perfect. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:30:38 You got casinos in Detroit that work. You got casinos in Maryland that work. Detroit is like the example where I would be hesitant about. Maryland. The problem with Broadway, tickets are too expensive. Yeah. The tickets just keep getting more and more. And then the only people that can afford it are people who are 60 years old.
Starting point is 01:30:54 They're retired. Yeah. Well. Also, there's not a culture for young people to go watch shows on Broadway. No. I think if it was cheap or they would go. And I agree with you on that. And there's dope shit.
Starting point is 01:31:03 You can go see strange your things on Broadway. Fire. You know what I'm saying? You go see MJ the musical on Broadway. Fire. Hamilton, fire. Like, there's dope-ass shit to go see your own fucking Broadway. I like.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Maybe happy ending. Absolutely phenomenal. I'm not joking. That is the name of it. I'm not joking. Maybe happy endings. I ain't ever seen that one, no way. If you Google it right now, Google it right now.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Darren Chris is starring in it right now. Fucking Chris Google that shit. It's going to be a bunch of Asian parlors pop up. It's maybe happy ending. A bunch of Asian fucking massage parlors. Yeah, you got up on. There you have. There it is.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Okay. Oh, okay. Maybe happy ending. Sorry. Oh, okay. I never saw that one. I'm going to see that. Bob.
Starting point is 01:31:47 They are Asian too. Well, he's not, which there was a big thing about it. But it's originally a Korean. I've seen a wiki. Broadway. On Broadway. Musical. Wicked the movie sucks, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:57 You saw the new one or the old one? Yeah, I saw the new one. The kids love it, but that shit ain't for me as a real. You didn't fuck with it? I'm like, the first one was fire. Yeah, but I don't want to know the prequel to that shit. You know what I mean? Like, that shit was kind of spooky.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Like, you know how a 10 man became a 10 man? And no heart, right? A fucking handicapped girl he was smashing. Right? A handicap, a handicap witch he was smashing, put a spell on him. Oh, is that it? Yes. Put a spell on him
Starting point is 01:32:27 and then their sister tried to reverse the spell. Motherfucker becomes a tin man or some shit that has a vendetta against the girl because the girl's in the wheelchair was like, it was my sister. So the shit is so crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:38 I mean, that's reasonable. The cowardly lion I thought was a nice gay lion. You know what I mean? He had the little bow in his hair. But he got to be gay. He was just a fucking lion that was living in a zoo and the witch let let the lion go.
Starting point is 01:32:51 And so he had to go out in the, he was so used to being a kept lion. that when he was out in the world, scared as fuck. The scarecrow, it's all about cheats now that I think about it. It is all about cheap. It's all about cheap. The scarecrow liked,
Starting point is 01:33:06 was supposed to marry one witch, supposed to marry Ariana Grande, but fell in love with the green witch. Yeah, Elphaba. And then fucking, they took him out, I don't know, they took him out to field to beat him or some shit. And so they put a spell on this.
Starting point is 01:33:21 She put a spell on him so he couldn't feel, pain, so he ends up being a scarecrow. This shit is like, what the fuck? And it was one of those things with my kids, you know, my kids love it, I'm enjoying it. So I'm in and out of sleep, seeing how she plays. I'm like, I'm going back to fucking sleep. Then I'll wake back up.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Like, what, how do I fuck the 10-man day? What, go back to sleep, wake back up? What, the line, what, go back to sleep. You know what I mean? Then they showed a house falling on the handicapped woman. And in the original, her legs are hanging out. like this. I'm sitting there thinking her legs was so limp because the house fell on her.
Starting point is 01:33:59 She was a paraplegic. The whole time. The whole fucking time. You know what I'm saying? And how are you a witch in a wheelchair but the spell can make you walk? Avercadabra. Avra fucking cadaver. God damn, yo. Wicked, man. That shit ain't for me. You know what I mean? It's down like it was.
Starting point is 01:34:15 You was lovely. I don't know why she needs to be so dark. You were affected by it, huh? My oldest daughter was telling me how the original Wicked is actually dark. I didn't read the original Wicked. I know we're going off to see the Wizard and all that shit. No, no, the original Wizard of Oz. Whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Bro, they showed a fucking, they showed them trying to make the yellow brick road. That shit was crazy. Wait, why? Who was doing it? The Mexican. They had all the Mexicans and they was pushing these horses and they was making the yellow brick road.
Starting point is 01:34:48 How do you know they was Mexican? They said it in the movie. No. Yes, they do. They all got real. Oh, they say it in the fucking movie. What do they say? It is the Mexican. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:35:00 What's the... Look that shit up. So they got witches and goblins and all this stuff and then Mexican. Bro, they say that shit in the movie, bro. Hold on. Who makes the yellow brick road and... That is crazy. Oh, the munchkins.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Wow. Hold on. Wow. Forced labor from captured animals and munchkins. Oh, okay. Fuck. Yeah, yeah. Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:35:28 My bad. I was in and out of sleep, guys. I was in and out of sleep, guys. I was in and out of sleep. Did you see the 50 doc? Not yet. Me neither. You saw that?
Starting point is 01:35:38 I watched the first two episodes. How was it? Fire. Let's go, fifth. Wow. I was impressed. Sean Combs got to be the dumbest motherfucker walking the planet, though. What do you do again?
Starting point is 01:35:49 Why would he be recording all of that shit leaving up? How do 50 get that footage? Yeah, that's the grades bar. I heard. Like the first like 10 minutes. Because footage from Diddy right before he got arrested. They said because Diddy was either shooting a documentary or had somebody filming everything.
Starting point is 01:36:07 So he bought the footage from that company? That would be my guess. That's hilarious. That's what I heard. I heard something like that. I don't fucking know. But why would you be recording that if you diddy? I think he thought he would beat it and then he would have a document of his,
Starting point is 01:36:21 of him overcoming situation. But showing what? I mean, it's just, it's, it's nothing, like, particularly inflammatory. It's just him going around the city and talking to his attorneys and trying to figure it out, but it's juxtaposed against, they have a lot of incredible archival footage. Like, they really spent a lot of money. And when you look at it, you're like, God, like, Diddy really has been in the press for 35, 40, you know, like. Basically his whole life.
Starting point is 01:36:49 And they go way, way back. Like, you know. Yeah, I heard they go back to the basketball game. Before that, I mean, there's, there's pictures. There's a him in Mount Vernon as like a five-year-old kid, childhood friends. Like, it's very thorough. I mean, the one criticism of my read, and I don't know how fair it is, is it doesn't delve into the victim stories as much as it could, but I'm only two episodes in.
Starting point is 01:37:11 And there is one woman, and I think episode one, and it's like a very emotional scene where she recounts some of the stuff that happened to her. Like, I think it's well done so far. I'm watching this weekend. I just, you know, for me, it's just like, I don't, yeah, I don't know why you would be recording. From the clips that I saw, it just seems like the highest level of arrogance, and it seems like he's just trying to manipulate his way out of the situation. He talks about that on the tape. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Wow. This is how we're going to play the media. This is how we're going to manipulate the media. Wow. Oh, but imagine if you're recording it thinking you're going to make the doctor, he wasn't like I ever put it out loud. It's like the book example. Yeah, it's all right if she writes a book because we'll go back and edit it. What happened is they recorded it. They probably thought they could edit it and frame it how they wanted to and then shit fell apart. And I'm guessing whoever filmed it was like, well, he's never going to buy this footage from me because he's in jail now. And then 50s tapped in. Oh, I have to see this. But why would I ever, my point is, why would I ever be talking like that in front of anybody? Even if I felt that way. Why would I be
Starting point is 01:38:16 having that conversation to be recorded? Well, that's one of the themes in the doc is that at a certain point. and they trace it back to City College because he skated on that essentially. He believed he was untouchable. Skated on shine. Did they talk about that? I mean, we haven't even got. I mean, the first episode,
Starting point is 01:38:33 it's still Uptown Records, right? And they have some really, like, crazy footage from inside the event at City College, which I've never seen before. And you can see him in the middle of, like, the chaos. It's pretty damning footage. And the case that's made is he beat that. business beating that. The label
Starting point is 01:38:53 at that time wanted him gone. Andre Harrell fought for him. Kept them around and then once he got past that he's like I can do anything. I can do anything. I just fucking had an event and nine people got killed and I'm the king of New York.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Shit. I'll tell you one thing too, man. A lot of people saying shit like, you know, they think 50's being vindictive. To those people I say, you just don't know the backstory or 50 and didn't. You know what I mean? And, you know, even if people should be like,
Starting point is 01:39:25 well, yeah, we know Denny was messing with 50's baby mom or whatever, whatever. Yeah, that's one thing. But you can't be a person taunting the other person about it. I think what's good about the film, and I don't mean this as a diss, you don't feel 50s fingerprints. That's good.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Really? Yeah, not at all. No, I'm not saying they are obviously there and I can see the places where, in my opinion, there's certain information in there that only a feeling, 50 could get or have knowledge about, but you don't, it doesn't, you forget about him immediately. He's not narrating it.
Starting point is 01:40:00 He's not in it. You know, it stands on its own. It's 50 the greatest anti-hero in hip-hop. Without doubt. He might be one of the greatest anti-heroes in entertainment. Notice I didn't say villain. No, he's an anti-hero. Yeah, he's an anti-hero.
Starting point is 01:40:14 He's Stone-cold Steve Austin. Stone-cold, Steve Austin. He's the rock when the rock was a heel. You know what I mean? And the reason I say he's number one over Tupac, is because 50's lived, he's still here. You know what I mean? God bless the dead, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:40:28 But we don't know what Park would have been at 40, 50-something years old. One thing we know about 50-cent, he is committed to being the entity. When 50 cents said on life's on the line, nobody likes me, and that's okay, because I don't like y'all anyway, because I don't like y'all anyway.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Fuck all of y'all. Well, the other thing is Dame Dash saying that 50 was capping and he didn't really have anything. Do you remember when 50 Cent was supposed to be putting out a documentary about Puff on Netflix? Yes. Where is it? I think it's still happening. Yeah, right. He's capping.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Oh, Dead Dash, hush. Hey, well, that, 50, when you're going to make the Dead Dash documentary, okay, all right? This is a, you might, some people might like it. Some people might not like it. It's a real film. Like this is not... Oh, wow. Okay. This is legit.
Starting point is 01:41:22 And I'll say this. I came from the doctor's office today. The receptionist was talking about it. It's the number one most watched thing on Netflix right now. I was on the subway. The guy coming up the stairs was talking about it. Chris, it's the number one most watch thing on Netflix. First of all, let's factor in three things.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Number one, it's a documentary on Netflix. Number two, it's executive produced by 50 Cent. Number three, it's about basically the downfall of one of the biggest celebrities ever. You understand what I'm saying? It's one of the biggest celebrities ever. Like this case is super intriguing
Starting point is 01:41:59 to a lot of people. I put it like this. I watched the first episode and a half last night. I was like, I got to go to bed. I downloaded two on my phone so I could watch it in the subway on the way in the city.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Oh, wow. I haven't done that in a lot. Oh, wow. It's that good. See, that's why I'm waiting until the weekend because I don't want to stop and go. I'm waiting until the week.
Starting point is 01:42:15 I want to watch all full. Just knock it out in one's salute the 50 cent man And it's funny because when Debt Dash said that You know it's interesting right Like how you just said Chris 50 does great work when it comes to It comes to documentaries
Starting point is 01:42:29 This is not even his first documentary This man has already given us a hit franchise Of a whole universe on television Right 50 knows how to make good TV 50 knows how to make good documentaries So when you see Debt Dash in an interview say Didn't he say that he said
Starting point is 01:42:48 that he was going to do a documentary in the documentary I was like, oh, the show is still coming. That's cap. That's because that ain't used to making the type of quality that 50 is making. So he wouldn't do some shit in two days.
Starting point is 01:43:04 You know what I'm going to throw it out. Yeah. Right? Quality, shit takes time. Takes time. It could change. I've only seen two episodes, but again, I want to emphasize he isn't all over this thing. And we know the backstory and all that. I'm sure the temptation was there. He stepped back. It feels like he let the pros do their job.
Starting point is 01:43:24 That's the way to do it. That's the way to do it. You know, 50 really hadn't missed with TV and film, y'all. It's unbelievable the transition. Power, all the power spinoff. Unbelievable. We forget about the joint that was on ABC, about the lawyer who became a lawyer in jail.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Isaac Wright. You know what I mean? He's from House Corner, by the way. I don't think I got right now. It didn't, but it still was good. It was a good show. You had a show on ABC. The Giglo Beach, if that's how I'm saying it,
Starting point is 01:43:51 the murderer on Long Island recently. Yeah, that was a doc, yeah. You're 50, man. 50's killing shit out here, man. Sluke to 50. What else we got, man? Let's do some asking idiots. What we got?
Starting point is 01:44:02 Oh, it's a good one. Mowie underscore Cardina says, after Trump, you think the next Republican nominee will be worse or more neutral. Ben Shapiro bought up a... Fantastic one. Yeah, but we talked about that here on Burry an Idiot's before. Yeah, but I didn't see it in this way.
Starting point is 01:44:17 The next candidate, I don't know what the next candidate for the Republican Party will be, because the Republicans are going to be in the same boat that the Democrats were in in 2020. Like, you know, after you come off a generational, you know, talent of a politician like Obama was for Democrats and you can say whatever you want about Trump, he's so once in a lifetime, generational, you know, talent for the Republican Party, they're not going to have anybody that can captivate people in that way. Like they're not going to be anybody that can create, you know, a cult like MAGA following. That's why I think that the whole Trump-2020 thing, that's why I keep, that's why I believe they keep throwing that out there. I believe they keep throwing that out there because, number one, I do think they're going to attempt to do that.
Starting point is 01:45:00 But number two, it keeps Democrats and the media constantly talking like they're going to be campaigning against Donald Trump. So you're not even adjusting your playbook for who you may be playing in 2020. because you're still trying to beat this team that you never beat. The Patriots cannot go back and play the Giants those two times in the Super Bowl. That's true. It's over. You're lost. Okay?
Starting point is 01:45:27 So you've got to prepare for who the next opponent may be. But they keep Democrats going through this old play. You said it today on the panel. The show literally said this. We're having a conversation that's two years old. Because it's true. They're still talking as if. Donald Trump is campaigning.
Starting point is 01:45:47 They're still trying to figure out what they did wrong. Y'all got to get ready for the next game, baby. Okay, the next game is next year, 2006. The next game after that is 2028. And if you constantly are thinking, like, oh, my next opponent is going to be the same opponent that I've been fighting for the last decade, you're going to lose.
Starting point is 01:46:03 What did you just say that you think he is going to run again? No, I think they're going to try it. I don't think it's going to happen. Oh, okay, okay, okay. And Shabiro brought up a good point, which was Trump is enough of a political force and has enough magnetism to hold the Republican Party together. But right now you see this fissure growing in the Republican Party, right?
Starting point is 01:46:21 And it seems quite divided. Trump is powerful enough to still hold those groups together. It was like, I don't think JD is, I don't know if he exactly said this, but the feeling I got from it was, is JD powerful enough to do that? Is Marco Rubio powerful enough to do that? And if not, they will fracture. And now you have almost like two different Republican parties. and do they eat away at each other and stop you from having this unifying force,
Starting point is 01:46:47 which could beat the Democrats? Keep in mind, a lot of Republicans that are going to feel disillusioned about the cost of food and just affordability in generally. In general, they might go back to the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party that they left when they voted for Trump. I don't go back to being traditional conservatives. Regardless. There's some very interesting things going on that right now the media is the marketplace for this next
Starting point is 01:47:11 election and we're not even close there. I didn't even see it like that. Nobody's, there are people, they're like Republican, you know, operatives that are fighting. They're fighting for what happens post-Trump. Absolutely. Now, they're thinking, they're thinking, they're thinking, you know, we don't even know if Trump is going to be here. They're thinking, you're thinking, he's not running. We have to push the party in a direction that we want. They got to do what Democrats didn't do, especially if Trump's policies continue to be very unpopular. And if, especially if the economy keeps fucking up the way that it is. You got to put some distance between you and, oh boy.
Starting point is 01:47:45 You know what I mean? That's something that the Democrats didn't do. No, they didn't. It came to Biden. But let's see. We'll see if they do it. All right, let's do one more. If you could see a vision of how your kids would turn out, would you? No, no, no, no. She didn't me. You would? Yeah, I'm back to the future with it, baby.
Starting point is 01:48:01 No, I want to, like, experience all the things that they do. That'd be the worst thing I could imagine. Yeah. I want to see all the things they do. Who they become. Suppose it turns out bad, man. Oh, God. And they didn't have to live with that. Oh, but that's what's going to happen. That would fuck you up.
Starting point is 01:48:13 That's how it works. If you're going to change the rules of the fucking height of that. Sorry, Russell. I'm just saying, if God or whatever entity allowed you to see a vision of how your kid would turn. If you get that vision, you're supposed to act on that. Like, that's not a vision that you get and be like. But if you act on it, it might change the outcome. No.
Starting point is 01:48:33 If I see my, if you have a vision and, you know, your child is fucked up in some way, right? Like drug addict or something like that. Yes, you got to figure out ways to intervene. And I'm going to tell my child. Yo, every older person in my life, grandmother, parents, whatever, when they would have visions about me, they would tell me,
Starting point is 01:48:50 and it would absolutely impact how I would move. Like, I remember one time my grandmother told me, I had a dream, you got shot on this neighborhood. It was this neighborhood in Moss Corner. I ain't never went to that neighborhood. Ever. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:49:04 Like, when you have a vision about something, you're supposed to act on that vision. Yeah. You had a vision about Madison Square Garden. You act on it. What the fuck? Alex, you had a vision of my painting your nails. I hate you.
Starting point is 01:49:16 What a joke? Did you not have a vision of my pain, you know? Some of y'all think we're brilliant. Some of y'all think you're idiots. We're idiots. You're both right. Listen, as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent.
Starting point is 01:49:30 You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's a brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.

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