The Brilliant Idiots - WTHITPL?

Episode Date: October 9, 2020

This Week Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz discuss the VP debate, Trump getting over COVID-19, Paying teachers their worth, Charlamagne talks about why he was trending and his growth to who he is now, #askanidiot, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid it's positively brilliant. The brilliant idiot. Yep, Charlemagne de God. Andrew Shultz. We are the brilliant idiots. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Okay? Happy to be here.

October has started off with a goddamn bang. We might as well get to it. What did you see this past week? Shost did you thought was positively brilliant? What did you see that made you say, what a fucking idiot? Oh, man. This was, dude, the VP debate was brilliant.

You know what's that? It's sad that the VP debate comes off as more presidential than the actual presidential debate. Mike Pence and Senator Harris are way more presidential. Be honest. Than the people there number two's with. Did you watch it and were you like, if either of them were president, be all right? Yeah, I felt like that. I mean, the thing about Mike Pence is that, you know, he's an attorney.

You know, he's got experiences as a politician. So he's just able to articulate alternative facts. He's a cold-hearted motherfucker. That dude is a beast. Yeah, he can articulate, you know. But by the way, all politicians do it. It's not like even just a Mike Pence thing. They're both able to articulate things better than Trump and Biden.

From? Actually, I think Trump communicates pretty well. He doesn't say it in an articulate way, but he just gets the point. Like, there's this funny video. Yeah, his messaging is directed. I got to show you this video. We got to bring it up. But this is worth, it's actually worth taking a second for it.

Have you seen the video? It's comparing like when Obama was talking about things, so when Trump was talking about things? Oh, this shit. That's right here. The United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden. Oh, I did see that. Abu, Bakar, al-Baghdadi.

He's dead. The United States launched a targeted operation against that compound. They did a lot of shooting and they did a lot of blast. Even not going through the front door, you know, think you go through the door. If you're a normal person, you say knock, knock, may I come in. After a firefight,

they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body. He died like a dog. Listen, I prefer that level of messaging if you know what the fuck you're talking about. Yes. Because I'm from the South. From the South, that's how we communicate. My dad used to always say, the fastest way between two points is a straight line.

People wonder why Killa Mike is such an effective communicator. It's not just because he's brilliant. It's not just because he's educated. It's because he's from the South. Duval, a brilliant communicator. Because he's from the South is just something about sovereign people. We get right to the point with it. I'm not saying Trump's not from the South, of course, but his messaging is very sovereign-like in its delivery. Yes, I think so. And also positively brilliant. Me. And the reason I'm positively brilliant is because I told y'all last week, even though we

didn't get to talk about it on idiots, I said, I don't think Donald Trump has COVID. I said it was an October surprise. I said, I think Donald Trump, I said two things can happen. I said, the only way Donald Trump can make me believe he has COVID is if he passes away, God forbid, because I don't wish death on nobody. That's number one.

Right. Number two, if he doesn't have it and he survives it, what do you think a 74-year-old man that weighs 244 pounds is labeled clinically obese already thought that the coronavirus was 99% harmless? His words. Yeah. How the fuck you think he was going to act

if he survives COVID. Okay. Come on, be unbearable as hell. But also, I said this. I said, Trump's going to take some type of therapeutic vaccine. It's going to be some type of experimental cocktail. Uh-huh. He's going to come out, tell the American people about it.

Everybody's going to line up to get it. Stocks are going to shoot through the roof. He probably has some type of equity in it. What the fuck came out yesterday? What? The shit, what's the pharmacy company called? Renegade or something. Renegade.

Something with R. I started to say Nutragina, but it ain't Neutrigina. There's something with an R, right? That company is out of Queens, New York. Okay. Trump has had stock in equity in the company before. And if I'm not mistaken, I think Jared Kushner has stock in it now or something like that. Okay.

So that was reported yesterday. So my whole point is Trump probably knows he's losing in November. Let me cash out. Let me cash out. Interesting. Let me cash the fuck out. So you're saying that he's invested in the company that owns the drug that he took that allegedly saved him.

He's been invested in it before. If I'm not mistaken, Jared. It's called Regeneron. Regeneron. Regeneron, yes. Look up the article about because they reported it yesterday, but it's something about Jared Kushner and

regeneron and whatever, whatever. The moral of the story is, I don't think he fucking echoed. Really? No, man. And if you, why would the most narcissistic, arrogant person who's downplayed something so much come out and say he had it? So he can beat it.

so he can normalize people going out and carrying on with their lives. That's true. That's what I thought the whole hustle was. It's like, yo, if I got, I think. That's why he kept some stimulus, he's like, y'all don't need no fucking money. This is like a cold.

He was like, he said, I had this shit for two days and beat it and y'all motherfuckers ain't going to work. He said, hell, no, ain't no more money. That's what he did. I'm telling you. He literally tweeted out his flu season. It's flu season.

100,000 people died from the flu. We still go on with our lives, don't we? Back out to work. work. I'm telling you that it's... Interesting. It's kind of brilliant, bro. That's what you got to give it a little credit because you can't really tell people to go out there and work when they could get Corona and you're not going to get it. But if you get Corona and you beat it and you are the type of person that dies from Corona, you can tell people to do whatever the fuck you want.

Not only that, Andrew. He sucked. Every single negative headline about him out of the media. That was the best part of it. Bro, Melania Trump tapes leak. But she said she don't care about kids at the border. No, no, she didn't say that. She didn't?

Nah. What did she say? She did not say that. She said, because what she said was fire. What did she say? She called Stormy Daniels a porn hooker. Well, guess what? Trump's coronavirus announcement sucked the media away like that porn hooker would have.

Right? Sucked all the negative media away like goddamn Stormy Daniels would have. It did. But what she said, she called Stormy Daniels a porn hooker. And then she said, why are they upset at me? He said something. She's like, why they upset? They don't even talk about them kids.

No, she said, what do they, she goes, what do they want me to do with the kids at the border? I can't do anything. Like, I arranged the curtains. I have no power. He basically is saying, like, I do nothing as the first lady. I don't have any power. And then she goes, and why weren't they upset when Barack Obama was putting them in cages?

This happened under Obama. It was actually a moment where she seemed politically savvy. First of all, I think you're brilliant because I couldn't even listen to that shit. It was fire. I read the cliff note. I'm like, I can't listen to her. Fire, dude. You got to listen to it.

I mean, she is not even. tried to learn English. So why was that a thing? Why were they acting like that was going to be a thing? That's not thing. What's fucked up is that was her homie that was taping her this whole time. Well, the taxes, all the tax shit gone out of the media. The Trump debate from last week, stand by, stand back, gone out of the media. The white supremacist is the only thing they had to bury and they buried it. They buried it big time. No, they had to bury the tax shit. No, because the tax shit, he said he didn't pay taxes 2016. He's like, yeah, of course not. I use the loopholes. Yeah, but it's the debt. Everybody keeps talking about the $750 in taxes. I'm not tripping off debt. I would love to pay $750,000 taxes.

Yeah. But it's the debt. The fact he's $400 million in debt. Yeah, it's institutions in America. No, no, that's not proven. Because even when she bought it up last night, Pence couldn't say shit. When she bought it up last night, Pence was stuck. Oh, hi. Oh, hi.

Taylor, welcome. Thanks for joining us. When she bought it up last night to Pence, she said that. She was like, we don't know who he's in debt to. Pence couldn't say shit. But they do. They listed it already. It came out.

They do. I can name the ones right here. That was the first thing I started looking at. into because I was like, yo, that's fucked up. If a dude owes half a billy to foreign entities, how can he be objective? If you notice, they keep even Trump, Trump hasn't even talked about his debt.

All Trump says that's a lie. Go like this, Taylor. Go like this. Go around here. All Trump talks about is the low number he paid in taxes, but even he says that's the light says I paid millions of dollars in taxes. Trump does not talk about the debt. Neither is Pence. Pence ignored that last night. Yeah.

They both ignored shit last night. Yeah. What do you feel about? the pack in the seats in the in the Supreme Court they are afraid of that I think that's an easy thing to explain if they explain it you know I'm saying if they explain it and they say look if Donald Trump puts another Supreme Court justice in here I think it'll be like 6 to 2 or 7 to 3 or some shit like that he was like they was like that's just the uneven balance so I think that if they explain that to the American people yes we would put more we'd pack the court

so it would be fair I don't think that's a hard thing But what's fair? That's the thing that's interesting. Whatever, listen, here's the thing. Whatever you can do is fair. Like, even if Donald Trump can push Amy, Connie Barrett through because he's the president, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, that's the system. So if changing the system might not be fair. No, that's part of it. I didn't know you can do that, but you can do that. You can add Supreme Court seats. It's not even a hard thing to do. I didn't, I didn't know that. That's the first I have even... Has it been done? Has it been done? Is there any precedent?

No, I don't think. I think it's always been nine. I could be wrong. I mean, I could be wrong. I don't know. I think it's either always always benign on the Supreme Court. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting because that was a fire rebuttal with her, though. She tried to avoid it at first. And then she said, you want to talk about packing the courts?

She said, y'all put all of these federal judges lifetime appointments in. Like, they're just like 50 of them. None of them are black. Mike Pence was like, all right. He didn't say nothing. He just ducked the question. Yeah.

I thought they did great. I thought both of them were great. Both of them were excellent. Both of them were excellent. I had lower expectations for Pence. Really? Yeah, I guess I didn't realize that he was that kind of smooth, smooth talker, if you will. But he was composed.

Like, he was, he was ready to go. Most tops are. You got to talk you way to some booty. Most tops are ready to go. What did you make it a whole bug situation? I mean, great meme. moment. I mean, for me, what I thought about honestly, I was like, yo,

if people really believe in this reptilian shit, now was the moment where we were about to see a fork tongue come out of this motherfucker's mouth, he's going to eat this fly. Because you can't help it, right? You're sitting there, and you've been sitting there for like an hour and some chains and you're starting to get hungry. You're fucking fly, Lance

on your head. You just want to lick that shit real quick. Yeah, imagine if that shit would have happened. That'd be hilarious. Other than that, I was just like, all right, it's a fucking fly. I mean, I will say the moment that it happened, you got to listen to what he was saying, what he was talking about. He said that Senator Kamala Harris and Joe Biden

are always putting out these presumptions that America is systemically racist. And that there's no... He said, he said, they try to say that there's racial bias in law enforcement. Yeah. So the moment he was talking some real bullshit,

that fly swooped right in and landed right on his fucking head. And he spent two. minutes talking about some shit that we all know exists. Yo, I don't give a fuck. If you can't acknowledge that systemic racism exists in America, bro. Yeah. If you can't acknowledge that systemic racism exist in law enforcement?

Yeah. Existed or currently exists? He said it don't exist. He said that Senator Harrison Biden are always talking about this presumption of systemic racism as if it's just an idea. I think it's undeniable that it definitely existed. But in terms of like laws that are in place right now to be racist, like currently? I don't know if I can point in any current.

Well, it's not about the law. It's about this actual system, the way America was structured. Systemic racism is the fact that fucking Ebony K. Williams is the first black housewife on real housewives of New York. Why? As long as that show has been on, only one. Like, we should be embarrassed that in America we have first when it comes to black people or first when it comes to Latinos. This is because these structures and these institutions are built on whiteness. Right.

So if I'm a white person in a position of power, yeah, I can keep people from not being here. I can keep people from not getting teeth to the table. But that wouldn't be the system as racist. That would be the people within the system that are racist. That's racist actors. I think systemic racism is redlining. I think systemic racism is Jim Crow. I agree with that.

I think that's truly the system. Stop and frisk, you could definitely make the argument with systemically racist. But in terms of- Hiring practices can be systemically racist. Whether or not they're on the books or not, you know what I'm saying? For sure. Like I still think it's forms of segregation in America. I think that, you know, if you look, if you're a landlord and you hear somebody's voice, hi, I'm Shinnequah, and you're like, oh, no, we don't do that.

Good. And you go back, hi, I'm Karen. Hey, well, that's systemic racism. Whether it's on the books or not, it's a system that is rooted in bigotry, rooted in racism, rooted in whiteness. See, that's where I give a little point. pushback because I think it's like, okay, these are racist people that get put in these positions of power probably because of a history of systemic racism. But when we apply systemic racism to now, I think it's tricky because you basically

open up, you open up a little space for people on the conservative side who agree with Mike Pence to go, well, no, the point at this show me where the systemically racist law exists. And that's not what you're saying. What you're saying is like the legacy of systemic racism has put people in positions of power who reinforce those things even if they're not there. Yeah. And so then when you lift up the hood on the America and you start looking at all the Fortune 500 companies,

like, where the black people? Yeah. That's the thing that cracks me up about, like, Hollywood. It cracks me up about... Look at Hollywood. Well, no, it's not even, like, it's not even Hollywood, right? It's like, it's all these, like, what's corporations? You know, they're all woke,

or at least front, like, they're woke. But the reality is, if you look at their executive boards, they're all white, right? And that's why... That's why right now the conversation about systemic racism has to happen because the people who are in positions of power who have the privilege have to acknowledge it. Yeah. Be like Mike Pence and be like, oh, it doesn't exist. Because once you acknowledge it, you can atone for it.

Maybe there's a, yeah, yeah, you acknowledge in the past. You acknowledge in the past and you can acknowledge, like, racist practice that continue. But I think people get caught up in like the legalese of it. But yeah, that shit would piss me off. Like, first of all, there's nothing wrong with like an executive board that's all white. just like there's nothing around with an executive board that's all black, like that's fine. You can have that.

It depends what the company is. Exactly. I think it depends on actions of the company, right? If you're an executive board that's all white, but you're a white water rafting company, okay. Amazing. That's what y'all do. I'm not going to ever, ever be like,

why do the fuck you got to be white water? Okay, do your thing. I don't care. Exactly, right? If it's NASCAR, if it's one of these things, of course, right? But if you're one of these companies that, like, really harps on how important diversity is to you. like these Hollywood studios do, right?

You know we had a black president of the United States of America before there was a black president of any of these Hollywood film studios? I can't think of any. Who's the black? Well, Tyler Perry had to make his own, but there isn't one. There hasn't been one. So when you really break it down, to me, I just see it's so fraudulent.

I see these people like crying about how important diversity is and like putting all these rules and regulations in. Okay, you can't win an Oscar unless you have all this diversity. It was like, where's your diversity, bro? That's all I'm saying. Why is it everybody wants to do diversity with someone else's job? Not their own. You ever notice that?

Shake up to C-Sweeds, baby. Like, low-key? I kind of respect, what's her name? I know. We got that fucking fly in here, bro. Damn. Was it Serena Williams? Serena Williams' husband?

I think he was on, he was the owner of Reddit or whatever like that. He said he was stepping down to, and his position had to be filled by a black person, right? Now, I think that's stupid to just go, this person has to be black. should just be filmed by the best person. But at the same time, it's like, oh, wow, he's really putting his money where his mouth. He really cares about diversity. He really thinks that's the change that's going to happen.

He's willing to sacrifice his own shit. Okay. You're about it. He's getting that sweet nectar at home. One of the baddest black women on the planet. What are you talking about? You like Serena? Always thought Serena was beautiful.

Yeah. Always. Something I thought about last night, too. Like, you could watch Senator Harris and see how hesitant she was being. Oh, you felt? Yeah. Because, I mean, like, I've seen her. I've watched her in Senate hearings over the years.

And I've seen her, right, in action. Like, she was about at a three last night. And what bothers me about that is just like, man, she was holding back because she doesn't want to have the perception of being the angry black woman. You think. I know so. And it's like, yo, why can't she show up as her full self?

Well, is that what you're saying she is, the angry black woman? It don't matter. Like, you should be allowed to feel your feelings, right? Like, that's what your therapist said. Your therapist says, feel your feelings. So if you are debating somebody and you get angry about something, who gives a fuck? Yeah. If you get passionate about something, who gives a fuck?

If you get mad about something, who gives a fuck? Trump don't give a shit. Yeah. Biden definitely don't give a shit. We saw it at their debate. They was going at it. Going at it. Yeah.

Even pinch last night. Your pinch was full on white male privilege. Like, I'm not listening to you, white woman. And I'm not listening to this black woman over here. Oh, please. That she was so comforting to see, bro. It just made me feel right at home. I was like, oh.

The funny part is they do, they give those moderators too much black for no reason. What the, you're saying the, both of them, Chris Wallace and the young lady last night. I forget, I, well, that's, stop. No. What's her name? No. That's the girl from Tiger King. You never saw Tiger King?

Susan. Susan. Susan. Susan Baskin. I thought it was Kelly or something. Susan. Susan. You sure?

All named Kelly, Charlaman. Did you hear the rumor that the bug on Pence's head was actually Kamala's mom? Oh. Oh, damn. It is something to that. I'm just saying they said it. If you believe in reincarnation, you can see it happens. No, somebody sent me that this morning.

Yes. What do flies represent? Flies have been around since before humans. And the biblical plague of Egypt, flies represent death and decay. The Philistine God Beasobb's name often equated with Satan means Lord of the flies. That's what I'm saying, bro. No, that's not her mom. What? Well, it doesn't have to be your mom. It could be grandma or could be grandpa or something like that.

I just think it was, I honestly. Any of them could be reincarnated and they could come back to help and then just nestle into Mike Pence's perfect marshmallowy hair. I think, I think that that fly literally was there just so everybody can get their shit jokes off. If they ever, like for everybody out there who thinks that they're full of shit or pieces of shit or whatever you want to call him, that's what that was. And that was horrible, bro. Charleman, how you see that reflects how you see Pence. Because the initial reaction for a lot of people watching it were like, oh, that's right. Well, shit attracts flies. But how else can you catch flies, Charleman?

With honey? Damn right. Interesting. Interesting perspective. I just felt bad. I'm just wondering why that shit was on his head for two minutes and he didn't feel it. I'm wondering why his hair. Is that his hair?

Can't be. There's no way. No way. Male lace front? White people have lace fronts, bro. You didn't know that? No way. That fly was on that shit for two minutes.

He didn't move. And nobody told him. That would have been the ill shit. The center of the house would have been like, yo, you got a bugger. Oh, that's a fly. Just to fuck with him. Who was it?

Was it Mark? Mark said the thing about that's how you know he wasn't wearing an earpiece? Oh, yeah. Because remember how they said, like, oh, Biden had his earpiece in or like Trump had a earpiece in. They're just telling him what to say. But here's the thing, though. The people that have the earpieces, they wouldn't notice that shit.

You know why? Why? They're busy listening to what Senator Harris is saying. Yeah. So they can tell him how to rebuttal. It's the people at home who ain't really paying attention to the words that are coming out of their motherfuckers mouth. Bro. And they see the fly on there.

No, but what if in his earpiece, they're just saying, remove that insect. And he's like, who? How would you talk about her like that? Who are these racists in my ear? What's going on? Trump called her a monster this morning. Really? Yeah, for what?

News. Because he was just like, that monster. on the stage last night. That's why it's okay to just show up as you are because they're going to trash you anyway. So it's no need to hold back. There's no need to hold back and going there and try to, you know,

be cool and come off as high. I'm nice into the high house. I'm poised. If you feel like getting your shit off, get your shit off. Yeah. By the way, we also got to remember, too. It's 2020, baby.

Uh-huh. What is this about? What kind of area do we live in? Corona. Performative, man. Oh, perform. You got to be able to perform. Go out there.

You can't perform. You're looking at the camera. By the way, I hate that. When they look straight in the camera, that POV feels like porn, right? Stop, stop, stop. Stop. Stop. Why did they do that?

It feels so fake. Yeah. It's so inauthentic. Like, if you got something to say, just say it, don't turn to say, America. Yeah. Like, nah. Yeah. It is uncomfortable.

I hate it. Biden did it. And you could tell. They're practicing it. Yeah, but Kamala didn't do it that much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It wasn't as bad as Biden. It wasn't as Biden. But she did it. I just think that shit is whack. But Biden's fun because you don't know if he's going to even know the next word that comes out. So like you're watching and there's some anticipation and excitement. He's like, medicate. Is he going to say it?

Is he going to say Medicare? Okay, he got it. This is good. It's amazing. It's like watching some like it's like watching a frog on lily pads. Like he's just jumping. I really, he's going to sink. I really want to know what happens after this show.

What do you mean? Like, we're 27 more days. Like what happened? Like literally. I think we'll have an election. we're definitely having an election. And then we'll probably choose a president. And did what, though?

No, I don't know, man. I think that people have already made their minds. I think that a lot of this is just confirmation. Like, you just watch this to make sure you're right. I don't know, man. I think, well, at least for Democrats, what I would say the Democrats is don't think of it like that. Don't think people have made up their mind.

Because in 2000, and I keep repeating this number because it's so true. In 2012, 4.4 million people who voted for Obama, stayed home in 2016. A third of them were black. How do you get them to come to the party? You know what I'm saying? How do you get them to get up off their asses in 2020 and say, I'm coming out to the vote?

How do you get black people to come to the party, Your Honor, man? Tell me. I'm not doing this with you. I'm just saying, how do you, how would you do it? You're a marketing maven. How would you do it? If it was me and I was working for the Democratic Party, I would say, get a DJ. Get it.

No, no, I'm saying. I would say, listen. I would say, listen. I would say, listen. Big booty hoes. Vote with it. You have to speak to people's interests. People, like, this is what a Democratic Party is at with black people right now.

You've been with a guy for years. Guys always promised you the world, talk sweet, does things to you, never really delivered. Yeah. Do you stick around. Yeah. Stick around, you know. It's not a bad guy. He's just, you know, he's just a guy.

Yeah. He's a guy, right? And then eventually, when you realize, you know what, this shit ain't really serious. Like, we're not really, you're not about to get married. Like, you know, he's not really trying to wife me up. You want to have kids. When you about to walk away, he's like, I'll do it, baby. Whatever you want, please. Let me marry you. Let me get you pregnant, all of that type of shit. And you're like, I don't have no reason to believe you at this point. You didn't give me years and years and years of false promises. So now, when your heart is broken, when you're down,

and you know that I'm the best thing that ever happened to you, but I'm ready to leave. now you begging me to stay because you need me. You need me. That's what they're at with black people right now. And I can't speak for all black people. I'm just saying for some of the ones I talk to. A lot of people I talk to, they're like, I don't give a shit. So how do they get you back?

By speaking to black people's interest. But they've been doing that forever and they just been lying. No, they haven't. They talk about prison reform, which is great. We want that. They talk about criminal justice form, which is great. We want that. They talk about free education, which is great.

But guess what? All black people are not committing in jail. All black people are not committing crimes. how you talk to black people. You talk to black people by talking about economic equity, which Joe Biden has started to talk about only because we've been putting so much pressure on him. But what does that look like? Do they have a plan? Do they have a platinum plan? What does

that look like? What's better than platinum? I don't fucking know. This is the VVS plan? In the screaming era? Who knows? But I don't, like, they have to start speaking to people's interests when it comes to economics. Because America has fucked up so much. Right? America has fucked up when it comes to slavery, segregation, all of this type of shit. How are you going to atone for that? You can only atone for that through money.

If you're hearing all of these black people talk about reparations and you're looking at the way coronavirus impacted the black community and you know it's all these underlying conditions that was already existed in the black community that made them the most vulnerable. How do you step up? Money. So you're saying buy your vote. Who gives a shit? Just buy the vote. It's transactional. Now.

Dump 500 billion in the hood. Trump can put the platinum plan on the table. But I don't care about any policy commitments from Donald Trump. You know why? Because you don't think he'll do it? No, because he's the president. You can do it. So if you've done it already, you would have already done it.

Yeah. Interesting. What if he was like, nah, let's just start this now before I'm out? He can do it right now. You got 27 days. Now is the time to be throwing hell marriage, baby. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Now is the time for all October surprise. Surprise. I'm giving all black people $500 billion. I'm investing $500 billion into the black community. Great. Let's go. Why not? You see you get fucking, what, $1.3 trillion?

Yeah. All of these corporations, yo, why not? Invest $500 billion in the black banks. My man, Killer Mike, just opened up online black bank today, the Greenwood Bank. Really? You know what I mean?

You got one United. You got Carvers. Invest that $500 billion in the black banks. Robert Smith has a plan, the 2% plan, where he wants these corporations to invest 2% of their net income into black banks. Black banks. Do it. I got a black bank account.

Do it. And by the way, you don't even have to do nothing. Steve Minuskin or whatever the fuck is named. Manuskin. He can write a check. He can do that shit tomorrow. He can push that through tomorrow. 500 billion out of the back money.

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Do you think that Americans, like, our idea and concept of money has changed since the stimulus? Since the stimulus? Yeah, like, since the government just printed money out of nowhere and sent it to us, do you think we're a little bit... No, I think we always felt that way. Really? Yes. I never felt that way. America always, like...

No, America always felt that way. Really? He'd be saying it for years. They print money. They print. You're baking you can print money. Huh. I haven't been saying that for years.

I don't think so. Really? I don't think nobody thought it was a cap. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't think anybody thought that. Like, Nina was on this morning.

She said some real shit. She's like, yo, they're always telling you what to do. They're always telling you what they're going to do with your tax dollars. Yeah. That's your money. Yeah. Literally, remember, I think we talked about this before. If you look at the amount of money that is paid in taxes in a year, it's so much shit that we could take care of each other with.

If that money was going in the right place. But the problem is that money ain't going in the hood. That money's going into them. fly-ass neighborhoods in Jersey, them fly-ass neighborhoods in LA. All you got to do is drive through one of them rich neighborhoods. You'll see where all the tax dollars going, baby. Right, because they're probably paying the most taxes. Yeah.

And you see what you see what the schools, their schools are great. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just look at the state taxes in Jersey. Yeah. Look at the amount of money paid in state taxes in Jersey. So you're saying taxes are good if they're paid and utilized. Taxes are good if they're going to the right people.

That's what they're supposed to be doing. They tell us that we're paying taxes to take care of the less. right? The poor and disenfranchised. Just out of curiosity, do you support this idea? Maybe those schools in Jersey and the nice neighborhoods will just be a little bit more, you know, I don't want to say moderate, modest. A little bit more modest. And then the schools in the poor neighborhoods, which are struggling, would be a little bit more, I know, wealthy, if you will.

I think all schools honestly can have the same amount of everything. I guess, I guess in order for that... Elementary, middle, high school, like... But in order for that to happen, a little bit, got to come from the nice, right? Like, that's the whole idea of, like, taxation, right? Like, you and I get taxed way more than some poor people, and that helps those poor people. But we would do the same thing... It's supposed to help those poor people.

Right, right. The idea is that helps poor people. But we would do that with schools. But the tricky thing with that is we'd have to tell those kids that go to, like, the rich fancy school, we'd have to be like, hey, you can't have all the rich fancy stuff you have, because in order for those poor schools, to have more stuff which they fucking deserve, we need to take some of the money out of you

and give it to them. And you probably get crazy pushback from those parents, right? I don't think it would be that much different, you know? I really think you can make the school. I think it's the right thing to do. I'm just saying that's the tricky conversation you got to have is when you start telling. I think you can have equal opportunity,

nice education across the board and the hood, all the suburbs. But don't you think like it would have to come from somewhere? Like, it'd have to give a little bit. The most money I would put, I would put money in making all the schools the same, but I would give more money to those teachers who live in those porn. Well, I think teachers should be getting paid more all across the board, but I would give more to those teachers who choose to work in those porn disenfranchised areas. Because poor kids are more annoying.

Why? Why? Why? Why? What's up with this guy? Wait, why do they get paid more to teach the same algebra? It's the same algebra. No, because it's the poor. It's the same two plus two. But when the poor kids... Two plus two equals poor. because because it's a poor in the franchise area,

let's be honest, crime is probably higher. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be more dangerous. It's more dangerous. It's more of a dangerous environment to be in. Right. So if you choose to be Joe Clark. But to be fair, I mean, like all the school shootings probably happen in like, you know,

richer, nicer schools. That is also true, too. Maybe we should pay them a little bit more too. That's also true, too. That's what I'm saying. I think teachers should just get paid more across the board. but I would look at being a teacher in some areas, I'd have to give you some hazard pay.

For example. Not give you any examples. Okay, fair enough. But you know the type of environments I'm talking about. All teachers? Yes. P.E. even? They get more.

Hell yeah, because them kids will beat you up. Them kids got on their play clothes and they want to try you. They're worked up. That's when you might get into a fight in PE class. I'm serious, Jim, I bet you if you look at the statistics, Jim teachers getting more fights than anybody. You think? I don't know.

I just made that up. That's a brand-nid statistic. I'm just assuming. Fair enough. I'm just assuming. Fair enough. I'm just saying, like, I'm all about paying teachers more,

but then we got to get them to do something over the summer. You can't take two months off over the summer. Why? What is this two months off during the summer? Nah, you need that break, man. That's part of it. And now, guess what? Now you got money to travel.

Now you got money to really go take a vacation, Mr. Teacher, Mrs. Teacher? Wait a minute. This is actually an interesting point. Teachers don't make that much, but is it calculated? into the whole year? Yeah, my mama was a school teacher.

My mom was a school teacher in Monks Corner South Carolina. Yeah. She's teaching St. Stephen. She's teaching Charleston. I think she told me the most she ever made in one year was $30,000. Ah. Think about that.

$30,000 with five kids. Fuck. We didn't go on no vacation when I was young. How tall do you think you would have been if you could get fed properly? That's genetics. Okay, that's genetics. my dad's short.

But yeah, think about that 30 grand a year, yo. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, you probably couldn't survive in New York on 30 grand. No, and it's, it really does fuck with you because it's like, I can make that for a Zoom appearance. Think about that. You're giving me a man with a list in a 12th grade education, that type of money.

to talk on Zoom. Yeah. You're giving a teacher who you entrust your kids with every fucking day. Like when you put, when you leave your child in that school, the only thing keeping those children safe

are those, that administration. And they're making 30 fucking grand a year. Yeah, that's a great. Jersey 64. I mean, it depends on the tax bracket, right? But like, that's a great point about like paying the people that take care of our kids.

We always go like, oh, kids are the most important kids of the future. We got to take care of our kids. But all the people that we pay to take care of our kids, we barely pay anything. Yeah. Babysitters, $10 an hour, $15 an hour, maybe $20 an hour, to take care of the most important thing in your life. How much you pay for your shrink? I don't know. You pay five times more than the person that takes care of your children.

Not mine. My nanny is well compensated. How much your nanny really gets? Let's be honest. My nanny's well compensated. But that's because I know that she's taking care of my kids. You know what I'm saying? And you get bonuses and all of that type of stuff.

Like, I don't, you don't slack on. You're not paying your nanny $100 an hour. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. How many days does she work a week? Five days a week. How many hours a day?

$800 a day? Let's do the math. There's no fucking way. There's no way. $800 a day times. I didn't say $100. though. You said $100 an hour.

I don't know. I've never looked at it because it's a salary. $100 an hour. No, that's how much I pay for my therapist. And I know. I'm saying you're not paying that.

I'm not sure. I got to see how much it is a year. That's all I'm saying. It's a nice salary, though. I agree the nice thing. I believe it's a nice salary. I'm just saying we front like we really care about the people

that are looking after our kids when we'll let any stranger look after our kids for barely any money. But that's why they hire these kids to be babysitters. That shows how little you give a fuck about your kid. No, I would never. Would you hire kids to do a job?

I would never hire a 16-year-old to babysit in this era. Imagine that. Hell no. 16-year-old. Not these kids. These 16-year-olds different. Why? There's something wrong with them.

Why do you think it is? I don't know. It's just off. Like, it's just weird. These kids are weird, bro. Maybe I'm just old and I just don't understand. Well, but these something is off. Like, they're just strange.

Like, the way their brains work, the way they compute things. I think it's a lot to do with social media. Just the way they take in information. Yeah. You know what I mean? like it's just something off about that generation that I wouldn't trust the 16 year old. I really would not trust

the 16 year old watching my kids. Page asks if you trust your daughter at 16 to watch someone else's kids. Not somebody else's. Not because she's not responsible just because I don't, I think, I actually think that's too much responsibility for a 16 year old to have.

You know what I mean? Yeah. If you want to babysit, have your own kids. Ah. What? So 16-year-olds should have their own kids. No, I'm just saying. There was a whole MTV show about this, Charleney.

16 and goddamn pregnant. Yeah. The teen fucking mom. Yeah. Right? So don't get fucking mad at Charlottomay and get mad at MTV. And those, seriously, motherfuckers will get mad at. I can't believe Charlaman would say that.

But you're tuning religiously for years. The goddamn teen mom and 16 and pregnant. Knock it the fuck off. Those shows made a lot of money. What? Made a lot of money. You know how much money they're making now being like just rich now, just being on that show?

How much? They're making a good like 100,000 or so or more than that. Taylor, I got a feeling that you have absolutely no fucking clue what you were talking about right now. They do. No, I'm saying because look, I used to watch teen mom, right? You used to watch. The respected person in America is the black woman.

That's right. We'll stop. Wait, you're telling her to stop disrespecting black women by continuing to talk. I'm on your side, Taylor. Taylor, Taylor, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Taylor, don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Taylor. You can't get that defeated. Taylor's right. I don't believe. How much? I think I've kicked her episode at least $500 for season as the original team on the town.

No, but Taylor said. The highest paid one is making... The highest paid one is making $500,000. A season. Season. But no, they have other stuff after. What you're saying is they're making money from appearances. They're making money from doing ads on Instagram.

They have podcasts and they're... They're not making a lot of appearances. Who's watching the fucking kids? Come on, guys. They got nannies now and all that shit here. Seriously, do you think $500,000 is worth being a team, ma'am? I need y'all... We got to put this in perspective.

It's not like they're... showing up to do like loving hip hop or basketball wives and shit. $500,000 and you gotta have a whole baby? Like literally when they do the casting calls for these shows, they say 16 year olds who have children or 16 year olds that are pregnant. Is that worth it?

No. No. This is a whole child. Why didn't they have team dad? And that's why they keep having more. They need team dad. That'd be lit. By the way, half a million dollars? We know taxes. So that's $250, 200. Whoa. You know they're taking 40% out.

Yeah, but you get to write off your kids, though. And they keep having more kids, too. They have, like, four kids. Like, maybe three of them have four kids now. Yeah, they're fertile, bro. You're fertile when you're younger. You're fertile. I think it was a good thing I didn't have sex.

All them have different baby dads, too, by the way. Why didn't have all these babies? All them have, and they're from the, a lot of them are from the country, though. Yep, Charlemagne. Oh, listen, like, I saw that a lot growing up, so that's no. Really? But I never seen white people have different babies.

dads like how they have it. Could you stop? I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. We have to stop buying it. They don't see. I know, but I'm just saying they don't show that. She has a cousin with six different baby daddies.

Your cousin gets combed in, man. Wow. Paige's defense. She's from Pennsylvania. What that's what to mean? She's from Pennsylvania. What that's what's to mean? Tri-anel.

What that's supposed to mean? What that's what's mean? Pennsylvania? Yes. Pennsylvania is the up north down south Yeah It is

You gotta be out y'all Why do you say that? Philly out the equation Everything else other than Philly Brough Pennsylvania's the up north South is Everything else other than Philly

In Pennsylvania It's pretty country Everyone says And now I'm starting to see a little bit What people are saying But nah Delaware

What about Delaware? Delaware? Delaware? Delaware? Yeah, but Philadelphia is not part of Pennsylvania. It is. It is. It's in Pennsylvania.

It isn't, though. Hershey? Have you ever been to Penn State? You're from Hershey? No, that's country. That's country is fuck. Is your cousin from Hershey? Is that, that's not near Hershey?

Oh, it's close. That shit is country as fuck, bro. No, there's definitely country places in Pennsylvania, but. Just admit if you would have been this country as hell. Not all Pennsylvania, though. I don't even know what we do. Billy don't count. What else are we talking about?

I'm talking about, like, Little Amerian, that's not country. Low American country is far. No, it's nice. He's talking about, rest in peace, Kobe Bryant, he was shooting on the freaking hoop that was on a tree. Mm-hmm. What are you talking about? Yep.

I don't know, I made that up. I'm just saying, like, you know, I live next to him. No, it wasn't. Oh, God. You see this? You see this. You see this. Flight flex.

Slife flex, girl. Hey, you just get your flex. Oh, I don't know. want it. Chalry he doesn't believe me. Respective matters. You grew up next to Kobe.

We used to go over his house. No, it was poor. Yeah. Right. Nice. You both of your families, you didn't grow next to Kobe and cats. Do you know what his house looked like?

We were in the suburbs. Stop. Chill out. What is the suburbs? What are the suburbs? Google right now, Lower Merriamian suburb. You want to see?

I could Google my house. Look at my house. Look at my house. Google my house. I'm more suburban than you. I'm a person who grew up poor. I'm poor than you. I didn't know I'm poor until I got older.

I got a feeling Taylor about to get a rude awakening about how she grew up. Okay. That's up. Google Laramarian. Medium household income is $107,000. Holy shit. You're talking to my parents, I. Mom and dad.

That's a whole house. Wait what? That's the whole household. That's the whole household. Mind you, my mom. That's side chick. That's other side chick. The 16-year-old that's pregnant claiming the baby on the taxes.

Who was pregnant? Who? Stop. I didn't see you. Stop chiming. Stop chiming. Duh. The.

Dugue. We were the only like, me and Kobe's family were the only black families on that plant. What? On that street. I saw the house Kobe grew up in. Did you see? You only saw the front. You know how.

Far back you were. Somebody just bought that house. Okay, so wait. What's in the house cell for, Alex? Google it. Somebody literally just bought the house that Cody Ryan grew up in. And I think they bought it for like $26,000 or something like that. And it still had the same basketball that Kobe played on in the driveway.

Whoa. Yeah, I know. Did you ever play ball with Kobe in the driveway? My brother did. Did he really? Yes. Do you want to see a picture? Oh my God.

You couldn't wait to go for the picture. I didn't think he was going to go for the picture this early in the argument. You're trying me right now, yo. You usually wait about an hour before you go to the picture. You're going to the picture this early. Wow. She's going for the picture this early. Why are you hating?

I don't know why you hating so much. Yo, why are you hating so much? I will give Taylor credit, though. Taylor was like this before Kobe passed away. Really? Oh, yes. This is, this, this, it's got more intense, rightfully so.

But whoa. Whoa. Really? Yes. I've seen this little fake-ass picture a million times. I still don't think it's Taylor, though. It could not be you. My mom came, too, to the show and still,

but you wanted to be kissing her ass like, oh, okay. Her mom was like, yes, that's her. That's her. Oh, but. That's her. Yo. He's such a hater, yo. I was just the outsell for, Alex.

900,000, 900,000. God. Yes. You're catching these. I'm going to tell that to be poor. You know. Like, what the fuck? It's crazy.

The most disrespectful woman on the planet is from Lower Merriand. I'm broke your idiot. Nice out of the neighborhood. I don't want to hit nothing about no struggle from you ever, Taylor. I never said I did struggle. That is true. No, you said that you had it good, right? That is true.

Taylor loves to brag about that shit. No, I do. Yes, we do. Salute the Lord Marion. I'm tired. I'm tired. I tried to make. you make y'all out to be goddamn.

We have one of the richest high school or something like that. Is there Marion? Is there higher Marion? There's a Marion. There's Maryhan. And you were, you went to. Why are they lower Marion?

I always, I don't know. The two black families, brother. That's what happens, man. They moved. They changed the name. The second young moved in. It was middle Marion until these two black families moved. And they call it Melan and Mary.

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What else? What did you find that was brilliant this week, bro? Or would you find idiotic? What, I found idiotic. I don't know if I found an idiotic or if I found it brilliant. I was, you know, I was trending on Sunday. Are we going to talk about that? Yeah.

This is so funny. The reason I was out and I woke up Sunday morning and people were hitting me like, yo, you okay? Like, I'm like, what the fuck you mean to my okay? That was a terrifying one. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah.

And they're like, you're trending. I'm like, for what? You know what I'm saying? It's never good. And so it's like 26,000 tweets or something like that. And it's all old savage shaloman. Here's the thing.

I'm not mad about none of that stuff. I actually welcome it. And the reason I welcome it is because I'm fine being an example of growth for people. I'm fine being an example of evolution for people. And the reason is tricky, right?

And that's why I say I don't know whether it's brilliant or idiotic is because I can't sit here and say that I feel sorry about any of that stuff and here's the reason why. A lot of people made a lot of money. Off of that.

You know what I'm saying? And a lot of ways, that was part of building the brand of the Breakfast Club, building the brand of Charlamagne, building the brand of brilliant idiots, whatever it was. You know what I'm saying? And so it's just like,

that was a moment in time. You know what I mean? That was a moment in time. A lot of it was performative. All of it was performative. I didn't realize that at the time. At the time, I thought, I'm just, you know, they calling me the hip-hop Howard Stern,

so let me give them more of this creepy shit. You know what I mean? Let me give them that, right? But that shit was like, it wasn't me. You know what I mean? And that's why one of the reasons I moved away from it. You know what I mean?

I moved away from it, I didn't get in no trouble. Clearly, I got, I was getting money. These are too funny. This is stupid. Me and Simba, so who killed your father? Yo, this is just. No, this one is funny too.

Shalameen always got this look before saying something wild. That stuff, I don't, the, like, all of that stuff is fine. Like, I asked those kind of questions, you know what I mean? But I'm not purposely asking people crazy questions. You know what I mean? But all of that other stuff, it was just performative. I got caught up in a stick. I got caught up in, like, the whole hip-hop Howard Sternvite.

Like, honestly, that's what it was. I was performing, you know? I loved it. You were a great performer. You were a great performer. I loved it. I thought it was so funny. I watch them now and I think they're funny.

You know what they better hope don't come out? What's that? Some old Guy Coal clips. Why was it crazy? Right. Go back and watch Guy Coal. You know they took down one episode because of something I said? You guys, first of all, think about who was a whole episode.

Hold on, hold on. Think about who was on Guy Coat. You. And Andrew Shoe and Little Duvall. Yeah, it got a little crazy. What the fuck. Fuck. So, and apparently I said something on one episode where I was like,

and you know, Guy Code is about relatable guy shit, right? For some reason, I thought it was appropriate to be like, yo, you ever see like a hot girl in like a sundress in the summer, you know, walking down the street and you're like, all right, fuck it. I'll walk this way for a few blocks. Listen, man. Oh, my gosh. No, no, they put it.

Listen, listen. They kept it in the episode. Wait for it. And then they animated it. Oh, shit. They animated me walking across. And then years later, years later, when culture shifts, when culture shifts, you want to change the shit.

Somebody said that to me on Twitter. They was like, yo, you reaped all the benefits acting like that. And now you're afraid to suffer the consequences. What consequences? Yeah, the consequences were the benefits. Here's the thing. There should be no consequences. The reason there should be no consequences is because cultural context matters, right?

I keep telling y'all, stop giving motherfuckers retroactive speeding tickets. We were going the speed limit that was allowed at the time. Yeah, there was no speed limit. Do you know who's... There was no fucking speed limit. I mean, it was crazy. Bruh. What?

What? Say it now. Say it now. Listen, you know who's getting $120 million a year? Who? Howard fucking Stern. Oh, yeah. Seriously.

Howard Stern's doing his new deal. He's getting $120 million a year. Howard Stern was the king of shock jockiness. Like when they used to put me in publications and say he's the hip-hop, Howard Stern, he's a shock jock. That's what I was modeling myself. after. You know what I mean? Because I'm like, oh, this is what people want? We're going to continue to give them more of this. Now, mind you, that's a small window, right? We start Breakfast Club in 2010. For me, that act wore out about 2012, 2012, 2013, maybe 14. I don't fucking remember. I don't

get in the date, right? But the reason the act wore out is for all of the same reasons. It kind of wore off of Howard. I remember watching private parts and seeing Howard's wife get on his ass. To me, my wife would be getting on my ass. What would she say? Stop that dumb shit. What the fuck is you doing? Like, you know what I mean? And it's like in my mind, and my sick, twisted mind at the time, I'm on the right path.

Well, you weren't. My wife mad at me. The way how was wife was mad at him, you know? And then you got, I got friends that really know me, like my home girl's like Debbie Deb and Kendra G. And they're like, I really can't wait until people get to see the real you on the radio. Andrews. It was like, no, man.

Yo, Debbie, put down the rocks, bro. Put down the rocks, man. Stop fucking up a good thing. No, that shit was not a good thing. No, it was a beautiful thing. It was beautiful. It was hilarious. It was amazing.

It was the way I played ball at the time. My game was evolved. But this weekend was definitely very well-calized. I thought it was an organized calculated hit. Oh, no, no, I did. You figured out who it is. No, no, I didn't figure out who it is, but I did the intel. It's literally like 80-something percent bots.

And so it was a thing. Somebody, but I'm used to that, though. Listen, I've been used to that for a while. My point about that is, Charlie, is that. the content was so funny that even with people trying to smear you and cancel you, we were looking at on Twitter and we were like, nah, this shit slap still. I'm like, first of all,

I'm like, who are you new people? Those are the old hits. Those are the old hits. Those are the old hits you can't perform no more. Yes, you can. No, you can't. You're not listening to you.

When you got a single, you got to suck a fart out of butt soon. No. One suck a fart out of a butt. Zay. No. A suck a fart out of a butt. I am so happy where I'm at in life. Call it a bong rip?

I think God. Call that bong rip. I think God. I think God did I evolve. I thank God for my daughters because they helped me grow a lot. I thank God for therapy. I don't want to go backwards. But once again, I can't shit on that area either because we made a lot of money in that era.

But people don't understand cultural context. We really got to have the conversation about cultural context one day, man. Things were different. If you wasn't there, I can't describe it to you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Back in the day you was going hear gay slurs in music. I will say this too, though, and this is what hurts me the most about it.

And this is why I'm so intentional about how I move with women, you know what I'm saying, especially black women. There was a time where it seemed like violence against women was a genre. Of music you're saying? Just in general, whether it's music, movies, comedy, whatever it was. Like the things that, you know, people, men used to make light of. It was literally violence against women. We may not have seen it like that. But it was.

You know what I mean? Interesting. And so it's just like... Why do you think that is? Do you think it's possible that that's the most extreme moral corruption that we can think of? Yeah. I think deep down we know how horrible it is. So oftentimes it like proliferates the art we create as like the worst thing to do.

I think being that there was no line back then. Right? We were searching for a line. Everybody was literally trying to be as shocking as possible. Yeah. It's the kind of stand out. Like the jokes had to be like on this level. Or the commentary had to be on this level.

Or the music had to be on this level. Like you had to almost say some like wild shocking shit. That's why Eminem popped off the way that he did. And that right there is what makes me be so intentional about, you know, the support I show for women because I'm gonna be honest with you even back then there would be times where I would hear like women

say I hate Charlemagne. I'm like why do you hate me? Yeah. Until you go back and you're like oh. Well what? What would you say that would make them hate you? Man, shut up, Andrew. I don't think you were answering. Because you're a man and the worst kind of man.

Okay? A male comedian, a white male comedian who still doesn't see anything wrong. You love pushing the fucking woman. This guy is so crazy, man. I don't like it. I don't like it.

And that's why. But I don't think you ever said anything anti-woman, bro. No, you do unintentionally. So it's just like, listen, you can't go backwards. And I'm not trying to go backwards. But I will say I am extremely ecstatic to hear people always constantly tell me over the past few years, five years actually, how much I've evolved. and how much I've grown.

And sometimes those clips serve as a reminder, like, that's, Charlemagne, Lenar? That's, God, damn. He was out of control. It's debatable. It's debatable. I'm just saying, I loved it. I'm never going to stop loving it.

I think it's absolutely great. Ed. Oh. You want to do an ad? All right, fine. But the moral of the story is, Yeah, what's the more, let's get to the moral of the story. I don't know if there is a moral.

It's just weird. It's just weird. It's just like, you know, okay. What? You're attacking me for things that everybody has already seen. Yeah. I hold myself accountable. Yep.

You know, for being in a fucked up state of mind not taking shit seriously as I should have. Right. But also, you know, the consumers who ate it up. I loved it. I don't apologize. You know what I mean? I don't. It's just that.

culture was different. Yeah. The context of things were different. I actually am ecstatic about where we're at right now. Yeah. As a culture. But I still think that we have to have a real conversation about cultural context and about how people have evolved and grown because I don't think we're giving people

to grace to make mistakes anymore. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And it's just like how often. Well, what about not mistakes? What about just jokes? Like, I think jokes are allowed. Yeah.

Even if they're fucked up. Because the intention behind the joke is just to make somebody laugh. Yeah. But you're doing it at somebody's expense. Well, a joke is always at someone's expense. But just everything ain't to be joked though. And that's just the truth to the man. And we got to know that.

I think you can joke. I mean, like, look, you know me. I'm going to have a different, I'm going to have a different. You're a comedian. Yeah, exactly. I'm speaking from the perspective of. I think that's what hurt you is that you would say, in my opinion, you were always a comedian. and I looked at you as a comedian

and my comedian friends looked at you as a comedian because, yeah, because we saw you had material. I think the average person wouldn't see it, but you had like ideas and jokes and like wordplay that was comedic. It wasn't like, oh, this is just something funny. Sometimes you and I will just have a moment that's random

and funny, but sometimes there's something planned that said that's funny as well. So we look at that as a joke, so I always gave you comedic expectations. But the average person would hear you go, I'm not a comedian, I tell the truth, or you would have a line about it. Yeah, I don't tell jokes. I tell the truth.

I don't tell the jokes, tell the truth. And I think that killed you. Right? Because you're like, I want to suck a fart out your butt. And now this girl got to squeeze a butt cheeks for the rest of the interviews so you don't go down there and suck a fart out. Mercy. The point is, is like, if you have that comedic expectation, I think people can take show with a grain of salt. But if you're out there, you yourself, branding yourself, going, yo, this is who I am.

I don't make any jokes. Oh, do you speak the truth? And then you suddenly say something wild, they're like, oh, I guess he really feels that way. And all I was doing was performing bullshit in myself. Yeah. That's the fight. That's the most fucked the thing about because I used to always tell y'all

you don't want to become a character of yourself. And I absolutely became a character to myself. It was great. And was still lying. It was great. It was so good. It was fucking great.

Nobody listened to this right now. Nobody, if you came on this podcast right now, you're like, yo, fuck all this tree hugging mental health shit. I'm going back to sniffing. Seed. Nobody listens to this podcast right now will be like, I'm not listening anymore. They'd be like, yo, next week's about to be crazy.

If that shit happens, commit me. If I coming in, ever say that, commit me. I'm going to finish the app. Something is right. We're going to get a whole app off and then I'm going to take you to the day. Now, that's not to say that you found a way, you found a way to like elevate. I don't want to even say elevate because it acts like the other thing is lower, right? But like, you found a way to maintain.

It was a lower vibration. I don't want to put lower or higher. We're not talking about Marians. I want to do, I want to, I want to, I want. I want to I want to say this you found a way to maintain your entertainment level because I didn't need that shit

is what I'm trying to tell you because you developed the other skills I always had those you just didn't know that you just didn't know that people would find them as entertaining yes yeah yeah but and that's also a confidence thing sometimes you might feel like you have to rely on that shit

right? It's like oh if I don't say this wild shit that people won't like me and then all of a sudden you do these deep interviews and people like oh shit, he actually has really thought-provoking questions. And this is a really interesting discussion. He seems curious.

Andrew hit me like my therapist, and I'm going to tell you why. I am at the point in my life where I'm really not trying to judge people for what they, for what they did based on survival. Yes. When they were in survival mode. You got to think I had been fired four times from radio. I get this new opportunity on the breakfast club. I'm not fucking it up.

I'm not fucking it up. First year we didn't do so well in radio. Numbers are rough. I'm like, fuck it. We go for it. Like, let's go. You understand what I'm saying? And yes, it was a lot of insecurity in that.

You know what I mean? It was a lot of, I don't have the confidence to necessarily be who I am, so to speak. Even though if you've watched me throughout my career for the past 23 years, a lot of the things you're seeing now isn't new. Like, I've always been, you know, very pro-black. I've always done interviews with people like the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. Like, I've always felt like, you know, I knew I had this skill set when it came to interview. And I was making noise doing interviews when I was on the radio in Philly.

In South Carolina, I literally got national attention from doing an interview with Buffy the Body at the time. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like T. Payne was another interview that I got a lot of love for when I was in South Carolina. So those things have always been a skill set of mind. But when you in New York and you're looking at everybody that cut through in New York, it usually is the shock jocks. Yeah, Howard Stern. Howard Stern. You know, the Miss Joneses of the world.

Wendy Williams was up to shock jock for a minute, you know what I mean? So it's just like, man, fuck that. I'm going balls to the motherfucking wall. But it got to a point just for me, not for nobody else, just literally for me and what was going on in my household. Yeah. That I'm like, man, fuck that. I can't be a part of this shit no more.

When did you realize you could be equally entertaining without it? Shit, December 2019. With what? Just getting to a place of Warvy. You know what I'm saying? Because let's not act like when you make this transition, right? when you make this transition, whether it's,

I don't know, I would say it was around 2014, 2013, 2014, I could be wrong, but when you start making that transition, right,

and then you just start focusing on your craft, which is giving critical, cultural, critical commentary and great conversation. Yeah. Right?

When you just start focusing on that, there is people that, man, fuck that. Yo, the old Charlemagne would have did this, and the old Charlemagne

would have did that, and you're sitting there like, damn, am I not giving them... I'm not giving them what they want. But what you got to do is you just got to step back and realize, and I didn't give myself this briefing space on December 2019, like all the show has done is grown.

The more that I've evolved, the more that I've sat down and did the work on myself, whether it's with my therapist, sacred purpose coach, whoever, when I started becoming a real man, like not cheating on my wife, you know, really being a father,

like in a real way, like being present. When I started doing that, everything around me started to evolve. Everything. That's why I honestly, truly don't trip off none of the old shit. Because that is just a reminder for me to stay on my path and a reminder for everybody else on how much I've grown and on how much I've evolved.

And I will continue to be that image of growth and evolution. And I think about everything that I liked when I grew up, right? Like when I grew up, that's why I gravitated towards a nation of Islam the way I did. That's why I love the autobiography of Malcolm X because that's why I love the book from niggas to gods by Akil because they were all stories about growth and evolution. And

that's always attracted me. Now I hope I can be that example for other folks because literally, man, this is so crazy. And I get off this after this. This week, I got a phone call from somebody and a real close friend of mine and they

wanted me to talk to this young guy who is getting a lot of buzz on the internet and getting a lot of buzz on social media. And he's like, I love Charlemagne. And so we get on the phone and we're talking about, you know, him potentially doing a podcast. And he's like, yo, man, you know, I want to be like young Charlemagne and like Howard Stern. And I'm just sitting there like, looking at this guy, like, but God is really showing me what's up this week. So I'm like, what do you mean by that? He was like, you know, just when you was, you know, reckless, you know what I'm saying?

and like, you know, this is getting drunk and talking about having shots of all these women and yada, yada, yada, I'm like, let me tell you something. Not only is that plane not getting off the ground in 2020, right? Eventually, you're going to look back on your life three or four years from now and you're going to say to yourself none of that shit was worth.

You know what I'm saying? Now, can I look back and say that? Yeah. It depends what I value. Financially, was it worth it? Yes. For who I know I am as a man, for the questions I'm going to have to answer to my daughters in the future, to the pain and stress I called my wife, no. Absolutely not.

But you wouldn't get this version of me now if you didn't get that version of me then. And so when I saw that young man saying that you realize the influence you have on people. But what I did like is that he said, young Charlamagne, he's fully. aware of everything I do now. You know what I mean? But in his mind, I want to be like that now because that's what's going to get me hot. Yeah, that's what he relates to too.

He's a kid. He's a kid. I don't know who this is. But I'm assuming he's younger. He's young. He's young. He's young. He's young.

He's a kid. That's what's exciting to them. You don't want to talk about being faithful and mental health. Oh, God. Let me pay for me. What? No, you're right. You're right.

You're right. What young-ass kid is like going on Instagram live. Like, yo, I've been faithful. No, these young boys are faithful. Schultz. Who? You were. You were a faithful guy.

I'm an anomaly, bro. When are y'all going to realize this shit? I'm an anomaly. I say all these foul things, but I live a pious life. I don't even know what the fuck that means. You don't be seeing his IG stories all hugged up with his girl? Yeah. I'm a great guy.

That's why I can talk all this crazy shit. Because you know my heart is good. Now, Andrew Ben, he's been. Black Queen? No, he's been an example. Especially when he had his black woman. All right, guys, we're going to take a break. Pay some bills real quick.

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You just got it out. I just got it out. Good, get it out. By the way, I wasn't even comfortable having that conversation just now. Really? I'm sort of, kind of. Why? I don't know.

It's just a, it's a, it's a trigger for me. Okay. It's a source spot. You know what I mean? But I'm not worried about it because I know in the future, like I said, people will look back and totally get the growth, totally get the evolution, and respect it in a different way. You know?

So, yeah, it's whatever. You feel guilty, I could tell. You feel like you're carrying this thing. I do feel guilty. Why? You're not a bad person. You didn't do anything bad. But like I said, it's just like, well, you know, I feel like there was a,

I'll just say that's why I'm intentional about my support. Now, I mean? Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've always supported sisters, but you've got to support through actions. You know what I'm saying? At all times, you know what I mean? So it's just like, you know, that's why. that's why I'm just really intentional about it.

Because if I was a part of the problem, I want to really be a part of the solution in a real way. You know what to me? Is that why I'm not really intentional and supporting? Because I wasn't part of the problem. You was definitely part of the problem. No, I wasn't it? You're part of the problem now.

I'm not part of the problem. I'm part of the solution. I'm faithful. I'm loyal. I treat these women like queens. I only take one at a time. As somebody who grew up in New York, I looked up to both of you.

You need better role models, bro. No, no, no, no. I'm a wild boy. Peep it, though. It's because you guys are like comfortably yourselves and you have success being yourself. So even though, yes, I agree with Andrew, I do sometimes miss the old Charlemagne.

Like, that was fun, entertaining. I am proud and like I cheer you on with the growth and the person you've become now. Because at first I thought it was like, all right, He's just branding different. But now I see, like, it's real. Thank you. And the fact that people, you still probably see the comments of people like,

yo, I missed old Sean, and you don't care. Like, you're still willing to be yourself. I respect that. Thank you. That's crazy what Alex just said because people say that. They're like, oh, he did an image change? No, I grew up. What the fuck you?

I grew up. Life changed. You know what I'm saying? I got three daughters. Three. Yeah. I got a penis or two out of that. I might have been, might not never have made the shift in that way.

Yeah. I got three daughters. Three. If I don't make the world a better place for them, what the fuck am I doing? And the only way to make the world a better place for them is to show up for all women. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's just like, yo, what the fuck?

And literally 97% of all my friends are women. Yeah. And historically, it's always been that way. Yeah. But y'all don't know is their humor is just as sick as mine. Really? Wait a minute. Talk to us now.

Talk to us. No, no, no, no. But it's true. But I will say every single one of my women friends that know me, know me, every single one of them challenged me to be better. I mean, every single one from Kendra G to Debbie Brown to Amanda Seals, Angela Rye now, Alicia Renee. Like they always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always challenge me to be better. And, you know, I hope I just continue to do that. Yeah.

I think that's one of those things we like, and we should move on, but like where, you know, maybe you feel pressure to live your rap. Obviously, you're not rapping, but like whatever we do, like live the image that you present it. You know what I mean? And I think that's the nice thing about being like a comedian opposed to like being a someone maybe in hip hop where there's this pressure for you to always be that person that you put yourself out to.

Like at least when you're a comic, like people know it's jokes. They're like, oh yeah, they're just making jokes. And people will often defend us. They're like, no, no, we want to be able to joke around about all these topics. Like, we're not going, hey, Andrew, you need to live up to every single one of those racial stereotypes within a joke that you say. They're like, no, you just need to keep on being funny. So I think that's why. Our people look at you as being real, right?

But they're like, oh, he speaks to trophy. He's real. Yeah. So they think all of it is real. Yeah. 100%. A lot of it, man. It's impossible to be in this business and not at some point become a character of yourself.

It's impossible to not at some point be. do things just for the performance of it all. I think it points, yeah, points in time you need to turn it on. It's impossible not to. Yeah, but the driving force is often authenticity. Like, maybe when we're on the fucking red carpet, we're answering questions from random, like, journalists outlets, like, we'll turn it on in that moment.

But you can't fake it two hours a week on a podcast every week. Yeah, you can. I don't think you can. I think this should expose people. Yeah, yeah, ours is different, though, because we do, and like I said, even that stuff you see online, that shit is like literally, that shit is literally like 5% of everything I've ever done. Like literally, it's this, it's a very small portion. Yeah. We are honest. Yeah.

We are transparent. Yeah. We are authentic and we're not afraid to have conversations like this. Exactly. And it's always been that way. Yes. And that's what I think people gravitate to world. You're comfortable being yourself.

Yes. If you have to fake a character, it can only last so long. I agree with that. No, I agree. And then it becomes redundant. You know, all those people who are characters, they just keep making the same jokes over and over again. It's like, oh, because you ran out of you. You become.

You know what I'm saying? You ran out of the character. Adrian's Clay got the same jokes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's because that's not who he is. He has to operate within the character and that character stopped learning. Absolutely. Absolutely.

And I'll so, yeah. I like it. I joke around. I bust your balls, man. I'm proud of you. I love the growth, you know. Obviously, I'm always going to tease you. But at the same time, if anybody comes for you for the old shit,

I'm going to call them out because I thought that was hilarious. And I know the people that are coming. I know the people are coming for you. Also were laughing at that shit back in the day. A lot of them. So it's like, shut the fuck up. Let's be real. It's like you're going to come for Eddie Murphy.

You're going to really come for Eddie Murphy now. I'm used to it, especially since I got a, especially since I got into the politics thing a little bit more. Bro, when you say some shit about, like, Republicans, even when you say some shit about Democrats. Oh, they come home. You'll see it's a little different. Oh, that's a little.

It's a little strategic. A little strategic. It's a little bit. I'll tell you like this. I can tell the dirt between some niggish shit. And some politics shit. And some politics shit. All right.

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All right. Let's do some asking idiot. Oh, I also wanted to say for positively brilliant, you really like 21 Savage's album. I love 21 Savage's album. But y'all, if you've been listening to Brin' Natives for a long time at the breakfast club, you know I've been loved 21 Savage. Mm-hmm. 21 Savage go haul. He never got kicked out of the country. Wasn't he like not a citizen? They can't kick out that big step-a? That's a big step-a! Sosquoise feet.

Wendy Williams boots. That was funny. On Breakfast Club, when you were talking about one thing, you were talking about sasquatch, something like that, and then NB brings up the next topic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What was it? He was talking about Wendy. I don't remember, but I was talking about 21 Savage. Yeah, he was like, Sosquatch feet. And then he goes, all right, what else we got?

Whitney Williams stomping around. And like, what? Oh, I'm sorry. All right, let's do some asking idiot, tale again. Um, from Carrie Rovick, they want to know what movie has influenced you the most. Oh, what movie has influenced me the most? Go ahead, Andrew.

What movie has influenced me the most of all movies? Wow. I don't know. I truly don't know how to answer. I have a list of movies that I can listen, that I can listen to. That's on my podcast on my brain. I have a list of movies that I can watch when I'm in certain moods. Like, I love Armageddon.

Armageddon is one of the most slept-on movies. Shawshank Redemption, amazingly slept-on movie. Incredible movie, actually. Let me think. Oh, what's that Denzel movie? What's the Denzel movie with the football coach? Remember the Titans Fire movie. Shit, Avengers Endgame, amazing.

Man, listen, I watch the last hour. in 16 minutes of Avengers in the game at least twice a week. I'm talking about from the time, Hulk does the snap and brings everybody back. That is the, you know,

I don't think there's a better action scene in the movie. And it's go time. It's goat, man, man. I mean, everything from when Captain America grabs the hammer. Oh, yeah. And then when Falcons like on your left

and they all come back and they get the fight. Oh, my God, that shit is incredible. Bro, the, if you watch that on YouTube, you can watch it with the audience's reaction. Yes. That's the only way I watch it. Because I love when the Captain America grabs the hammer and then everybody in the audience starts losing it.

I went to see that shit four times in the theater. What movie influences me the most? Crazy shit. Charlie, any, what's your Halloween costume? Can you give us a hint or you want to? I haven't even thought about it this year. Whoa. Are we even doing Halloween this year?

I don't even know, bro. Like what happens with the kids? I know what I want to be, though. Yeah, yeah, I want to be Sting. Remember old Sting? The wrestler? Yeah. Yeah, I remember what Sting with the black trench coat and the fucking hair and the white.

Black and white. Black baseball bat? I want to be Sting. I thought you always do a superhero. I think Sting is a superhero. He's the flag. He's in white face, though, bro. I don't know if you could do that, bro.

I don't know if you could go white face, bro. I want to be Sting this year. I don't know. We'll see. If there's a Halloween, I might just dress up, just to dress up. I mean, we're back in the studio anyway, so fuck it. Yeah, maybe we'll do a little dress-up episode. Yeah.

All right. What else, Taylor? Um, from Quentin 28. He wants to know if you were Pence, how would he swing the fly incident in your favor? If I was a Pence, how would I swing the fly incident? Yo, I think it is in his favor. You dominate the airwaves. You dominate the internet.

And then all of a sudden, people aren't talking about the points that Kamala was making. Yeah, it is kind of fucked up when you have a debate. And out of the two debates, everybody's talking about a fucking fly. That's it. Think about it. Right? because if you win the internet, you win the debate. Even if Kamala won the debate,

if everybody's only talking about pants and a flying ahead, they're not talking about any Kamala's points. And to be honest, this debate was super important for Kamala because a lot of people are voting for her as if she's going to be president when Biden steps down. So you want to take as much as you possibly can out of this debate. Yeah, that's my biggest problem with Senator Harris. And it's not a problem,

but I want her to step up to the plate in that way because this isn't just about Joe Biden getting in the White House. This is about her future political aspiration. You know what I'm saying? So she has to campaign over the next 27 days. Like, yo, I'm letting y'all know why I should be in the White House for the next 12 years. Right up. Eight as a VP, I mean, four as a VP, eight as the president.

That's what I think. But, yeah. What else, tell the game? Wow, has that ever happened in the past? Have you ever had somebody in the White House for 12 years? Has a VP ever won the following election? been reelected? That'd be crazy.

Okay. In my lifetime, I remember George Bush being with Reagan for four, then winning. And then he lost the second time. I mean, I can't remember. I don't know. I don't know. It's a long time to be in power. She is the perfect candidate for it.

He's the one that can do it. I think so. Yeah. And she's young. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like she's the one that could be VP now. and then be in the White House for eight years

as president. Yeah. And I'm telling y'all, Senator Harris could really be America's president in a real way because she will listen to everyone. She'll deal with progressive. She'll deal with people on the other side of the aisle. She's been in the Senate all this time.

She does that now. You know what I'm saying? Like nobody's needs will be ignored. Right. That's what I'm saying. You got a white husband. So she understands that side of America. She's a police officer.

She was an AG. She understands it all. in a very unique way. Yeah. Like she would be very good for America, man. I'm telling you. William Harrison, Alex just brought up. That was it.

Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Who the fucking William Harrison? Yeah, some white guy. Huh. All right. Last one.

From Calabunga. Cool. What's the worst superpower you can think of? The worst what? Superpower. The worst superpower. Fast guy? What's his name?

Flash? Yeah. Because everybody else is fast, too. part of it's like, you don't even mention that. Like no super, no superhero is like, yo, I run real quick. Right? It's always like, I could disappear and run.

Yeah, I always thought it was fucked up that they would have like Superman Racing the Flash. Like Superman was literally like White Frimuth. Keep gone. Because he could do everything. Like he could, they would have him racing Aquaman. Okay. I mean, swimming with Aquaman, racing the Flash,

fighting Batman. It's like, well, what the fuck? Why do you need any other superheroes if you got Superman? Yeah, that's a good point. Why? Yeah, he's Captain Marvel. He does every fucking. thing.

Yeah. Like, yeah. But I don't know if that's white privilege. Batman is white privilege. Batman is definitely white. Batman and Tony Stocks are the epitome of white privilege. Yeah. It's like, shit, y'all are already rich and y'all want to be superheroes?

Yeah. Y'all got nothing else to do but save the world? Yeah, we were talking about this the other day, just how, what a piece of shit, Batman really is. All he has is inventions. No, he don't even invent it. All he does. Come on, Taylor.

What? Everything in here is an invention. Yeah. Adventures are good. No, I mean, all he had is gadgets. He don't have like... The microphone is a gadget. No, I'm saying all he has is that.

He don't have like an actual like body power. He doesn't have any super power himself. But look at this. When you think about what he really does, he just beats up poor people. That's all Batman does, right? It's like you got all these gadgets, this whole outfit for somebody who's trying to take someone's wallet. You really need guns and jumping down and cables coming out of everywhere and a Batmobile. in a water batmobile for a guy who's doing petty theft?

And the Joker was poor, too. I don't know what the Joker was, but like, it makes you side with the Joker. Like, the Joker's seeing this fucking lunatic going around at a bat car just stopping people who are just robbing wallets because they're starving to death in Gotham. He's a billionaire who's making money off all these poor motherfuckers, and that's why they're starving in the first place. And then he goes to beat some up when they're just trying to get some money and feed my daughter. And they probably were...

Yeah. To all my people are in the struggle. Listen. And they probably was only working with Jokka because Jokka gave him a job. That's it. There's no jobs left because what? Batman outsource all them shit to India.

Dude, that's all he is. He's a piece of shit billionaire. He really is. You know who else is? Yo, Tony Starks is a piece of shit too. Beas all his robots. All that fucking technology he was doing. It was all AI.

All AI. Go hire some goddamn kids to help you. Thank you. Thank you, bro. This shit is crazy. Then he makes more robots to make his robots. To make other robots. You can't hire one other dude to make some robots.

His assistant. is a robot. How crazy is that? Wow. And you know how convenient this motherfucker is? He married his secretary. If we really think about it, man, not only did he beat up poor people,

Batman beat up disabled, because Penguin could definitely have gotten a check for the time. Definitely gotten to check for the same. Joker had mental health issues. Riddler definitely had mental health. Yeah. Fucking Mr. Freeze was just cold.

Hand him a fucking blanket. You defund Batman, son. Defund that motherfucker. Clearly didn't have a father. She just wanted some love. She just wants some love. She was overly sexualized for no reason. She just wanted a goddamn hug, somebody to love her.

That's it. Why was the suit so tight? Where the fuck was Robin's parents? You know where they were, bro. Where the fuck was Robin's parents? You know where they were, right? Why do you want to talk about that? But where was Robert?

I probably killed them. Batman probably killed them. He probably did. Probably did. Why was he an orphan? Because of you. That's the story they don't want to tell. Yeah.

Yeah, you want to talk about stealing little boys. Yes, man. M. Huss Wayne wanted some dick. He might have. have. Dick Grayson. Oh. I mean, yeah.

Bring a little boy to a bat cave in the dark? That's a little frightening, dog. Let him drive knowing you don't have no license. You know what he's dressed them up in a nice little outfit, a little colorful outfit. Whoa. Wait a minute. What's the bat cave? Wait, really?

Never, Neverland? I didn't know if he was describing the bat cave. I'm fucking never, never land. Do you have animals there? Yeah, we got bats, yeah. I'll tell you, we got to cancel Batman, bro. You know, cancel Batman as fuck. He's really problematic.

Bruce Wayne, problematic, bro. Batman problematic is fuck, y'all. Mm-hmm. He is. All right. 100%. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right.

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