The Broski Report with Brittany Broski - 4: Rosalía Crash Course

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:44 This is The Brozky Report with your host, Brittany Brosky. Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of The Brookesky Report, starring me, your host, Britney Brookesy. The host of The Brookesky Report with Britney Brosky. So on, I think last week's episode, I talked about how I wanted. want to do an entire episode based on Rosalia and how I feel like she's kind of like when I say I love an artist. You know, everyone's like, oh my God, yes, they're so hot. Or like, yes, I love that one song. This is going to be an academic dissection of Rosalia's first two albums. And you're not clicking away. You're not allowed to click away, actually, because I just said, okay, you're not
Starting point is 00:01:30 allowed to listen to something else. You started this episode, you're going to finish it. Or I'm going to be mad. And you don't want, you don't want me to be mad at you. Because guess what? That when I'm mad at you, you're like, when I'm mad at you, you won't even know because I'm so mad at you. I won't even tell you what's going to happen. So I really need you guys to listen. Because if you've watched any of my art history videos, like trust and believe when there is a reason on an academic level that I like something, I really want to share it with you. you guys and try to explain it in a way that if you've never thought about it like that before, maybe you didn't know the backstory. Like, I'm here to share that. So I would love to do that today
Starting point is 00:02:08 with one of my top three favorite, one of my idols, Rosalia. So I think there's a lot of misconceptions about her online. I think there's a lot of misconceptions about her music and where she draws inspiration from. And I want to talk about all of it because I am such a fan and I will die on that hill. So let's get into it. Let's let's, let's, I'm here. here, okay? And so you better have your notepad out because there will be a test at the end. So, obviously, if you're not a fan or just kind of indifferent towards her, the goal here is to bring you to the light side, so to speak, to show you instead of like to keep telling you that I think she's a genius. So like I said, we're going to go through her discography and kind of like
Starting point is 00:02:53 who she is as a person in her background. Okay, shut up, sorry. So Rosalia, La Rosalia, Eke Rosalia, is from Barcelona, Spain. She, off the bat, I think, is the true definition of a technical artist.
Starting point is 00:03:14 She both writes and produces her own music, both for herself and for other artists. I think what's most interesting about her is that people don't know how to categorize her music. It's very genre-bending, which is something I also love about the 1975, is you want to call them a rock band so bad, but they're not.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Like, they're not. There's so much more than that, and there's so much more complexity to the art they create. And I think that Rosalia deserves a similar level of respect. Rosalia mixes traditional flamenco with pop, mixed with trap, mixed with hip-hop, with acoustic love ballads, with a beautiful blend of all different types of Latin music. and somehow it comes together so cohesively, I would argue, into a really solid. Every single album is a very solid concept and experience.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And she's very experimental. And she's not afraid to take risks, which I think honestly is very rewarding. She's loved Spanish folk music since she was like 12, 13, 14 years old. She studied musicology at Catalonia College of Music. And she completed her studies with honors by virtue of her collaborative cover album with Raul Refri, which was named Los Angeles. That was her first album.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And then her baccalaureate project, El Malquerade, which I'm sure you've heard, maybe Malamente off of, that's one of her, like, really famous songs. That entire project was her fucking thesis. She did that in school. She delivered one of the most impressive, conceptual narrative albums, maybe of all the time as a fucking thesis at her college. Hey, she's a psycho. El Marquerre reimagined flamenco by mixing it with pop and hip hop music like a contemporary sort of electronic flamenco, which is so cool to think about. Also, I'm going to warn you guys up front, okay? I had two
Starting point is 00:05:18 cocktails at dinner tonight and it is midnight when I'm filming this. Okay, you guys didn't need to know that. It's midnight. I had two cocktails and if I cry over some of this, you've been warned. You've been primed and you've been lubed up. Okay? Moving on. She has a master's degree in flamenco interpretation and that influence permeates everything she creates. And I think the passion and the heart of flamenco is really at the core of what she does. It's so heart-wrenching and beautiful. And it's one of those things that makes me cry for literally no reason at all. Oh my God, Speaking of which I was on TikTok earlier today, when I was supposed to be recording this, I was laying in bed crying.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Nothing happened. I'm just about to start my period. And this video of a ballerina dancer came up on my for you page and she literally was just practicing. And it's this really hard move, I guess, that she completely nailed. Like, she absolutely killed it. And all of her classmates are like co-valorinas, co-workers were like cheering her on. And I just started openly sobbing.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Someone talked also on TikTok about how, what is it called? Is there a diagnosis for when you're hearing live music with a bunch of other people and you get the overwhelming urge to cry? Like being in a community, sharing your love for art and music. Anyway, I have that, whatever disease that is. So before we get into actually dissecting the albums and the songs, which is a big. We should talk about how some audiences view her interpretation of flamenco as problematic and potential cultural appropriation because there is an argument that flamenco music belongs to the Romani people of Andalusia or the Andalusian Peninsula, the Romani people, Los Hittanos.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And the argument is that Rosalia is not Hittana. So it's a valid argument. However, the origins of the art form have been difficult to pin down by historians, as so many culturally separate varietals practiced by Spanish, Andalusian, and Romani people, have all contributed to the modern understanding of flamenco. But the earliest records of cante flamenco or flamenco song date back to the 17th century. So when you're dealing with something as fluid and kind of versatile and, and so subject to interpretation,
Starting point is 00:07:53 like a genre of music, this conversation gets kind of, you know, no one's an expert sort of thing. However, you do need to listen to a community of people when they're saying, this is my culture, and I'm not comfortable with the way that you're, you know, portraying it. But I don't really,
Starting point is 00:08:15 I haven't really seen that discourse online. I think that it's more like, if there is going to be someone singing flamenco music on the level that Rosalia does internationally and globally, it should be a hitana. You know, like it should be someone, I guess, from that culture. But it's also like the use of Spanish traditions and imagery in her art is sparking international interest in Spanish culture and art. And of course, I'm not qualified to speak on the complexities of this matter. But I think it's fair to say human art is meant to be shared and enjoyed. Because what is art if you can't share your art with other people
Starting point is 00:08:57 and have other people feel what you feel through that expression? I think that gatekeeping, especially music, gets us nowhere. And music is one of the most crucial aspects of culture. And I think that it's a beautiful, beautiful thing to have such a deep, passionate, an academic understanding, respect, and love for a genre of music and to share that with the world in her own interpretive way, because that's what any artist would do. You take your inspirations, your influences, and you reinterpret them in your own way. And so on that side, I see nothing wrong with it. But again, I'm not one to sit here and speak on behalf of any community. But
Starting point is 00:09:40 from the discourse that I've seen online, I see both sides. So I personally, deeply and spiritually love her art, and I have a personal connection to it, so do with that what you will. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to progressive and save hundreds, because Progressive offers discounts for paying in full, owning a home, and more. Plus, you can count on their great customer service to help you when you need it, so your dollar goes a long way. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates.
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Starting point is 00:10:59 Okay, so to, it's called Los Angeles. The album talks about death in a dark way with like aggressive flamingo guitar chords and it's just her and her guitar player. And, and, And from this album, this isn't really a conceptual album more so as it's just deeply thematic, like all of the songs kind of are based around the same thing. From this album, you definitely, definitely need to listen to Catalina. Catalina is a reimagination of a much older song from 1926 that tells the story of just deep, deep heartbreak and wanting to kill yourself over love. Like just there is no other solution than I don't want to be on this fucking planet anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And it's so, so heart-wrenching. And her vocals on this song, always, always, always, always, always, always make me cry. So maybe you should listen to it. And the song starts with the lyrics, Kittate de my presencia, that me is martyriizing. Get out of my sight where you are torturing me. Okay, so I'm going to try to play this clip because this is her singing, completely acapella.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And if we get copyrighted and YouTube snipes me, then like, here's what you need to look up on YouTube when you're not driving or doing whatever. It's Rosalia Catalina, Acapella Live at ACL 2019. Write that down. Pause it and write it down and go watch it. And I just want to play this one section, which is just, it shows her fucking vocal. It shows... I could start crying. I'm just going to play it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 She drops the mic from her mouth and brings it back. She's still singing. I mean, it just like infuriates me. If that gets cut out, just no, YouTube sniped me. They got my dumb ass team. Catalina is one of my favorite Rosalia songs of all time. It's fucking stupid, how talented she is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Now, on to the good stuff, guys. Okay, I might need to put my hair up for this because I'm sweating like a grown man. Her second album is called El Malqueride, which is The Bad Love. And it follows the harrowing, harrowing unraveling of a passionate love that turns into an abusive relationship, both very verbally, emotionally, and physically. The album's concept originally served as, like I said, her university thesis, and the narrative draws from the 13th century manuscript named Flamenca, which tells the story of a woman whose jealous husband imprisons her in a tower
Starting point is 00:14:39 when he believes her to be cheating. She eventually escapes, but I think that Rosalia's telling of it is just different enough to where it's fucking jarring. Like, it is, the first time I listened to it, I was like, what is this? And then I did more of a deep dive, and then I read the lyrics, and I was like, oh, my God. Ooh, ooh, okay, she's your fucking shako. Psychopositive, not psychoderogatory. So the narrative, as it goes on, is told from the perspective of both the perpetrator and the victim,
Starting point is 00:15:14 usually coming from the perspective of the victim. But I really appreciate that where it's like you never really know, like, who's singing? And you kind of have to use context clues to figure it out. So on El Malquerque, each song is given a capitulo or chapter. And the project as a whole forms a sort of book with 11 chapters in total. I love her so much. Holy shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So let's get into it. Capitolo uno, chapter one. And I'll do the Spanish words and lyrics with the English translations. So you can kind of get, because sometimes it's so fucking beautiful in Spanish. It just doesn't translate as perfectly in English. But it's important for the meaning, obviously, because not everyone speaks Spanish. I barely speak Spanish. So, Capitolo uno, Al Juryo, which means omen, is called Malamente, which means badly.
Starting point is 00:16:08 it starts with this sort of dark omen. So the album opens up with this bad feeling in your gut about this relationship. This woman has a bad feeling about a marriage she's about to enter into. Then we move into the actual marriage, Capitolo Dos, which is boda, which means wedding. And the title of the song is, That No Salue La Luna, which translates to that the moon doesn't rise. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to
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Starting point is 00:17:44 Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. It starts with this crazy fast. Like one of those, I think it's like a 12-string Spanish guitar that's so insanely, insanely challenging to play. And this whole song really is about the bride being showered and jewelry and gifts and being adorned and being celebrated almost like a little doll, which I interpret to mean, you know, not all that glitters is gold.
Starting point is 00:18:11 If you're being showered in jewelry, that love won't last because the shine fades. Just because he's adorning you with these material things does not make him a good man or a good partner or a good companion. It's also like, don't ever let the moon rise from this night because retrospectively, as we know, things really go down. As it's going downhill, she's always looking back retrospectively at when that love was good. This night of the wedding, when it was like, please don't let the moon rise and let the day come because this night is perfect.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And it's easy to romanticize that, especially in an abusive relationship, when it used to be good. Maybe it can be good again. One of the best lines is, so it's like she's singing whatever, and then it kind of calms down, and it's just the Palmas, which is the Flamenco. hands clapping in her voice. And the lyric is, if someone here objects to upon, that no levante the voice,
Starting point is 00:19:12 which means if someone here objects to this union, don't fucking speak it. Shut your fucking mouth. Another lyric is her eyes shone like the light reflected from the blade of a knife. Her eyes shone like the light reflected from the blade of a knife.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So remember that. Remember that imagery because that knife imagery comes up later in the album. So keep that in your mind. Okay, so we have a bad omen. We have the wedding, beautiful wedding, whatever. They're so in love. Now we're in Capitolo 3, which is zealous or jealousy.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The name of the song is Pienzo in Tu Mira. I think of your look. I think of your face, that look that you get. After this beautiful glittering marriage, we see jealousy and worry start to bubble up. and start to seep in, you know, through the cracks. The lyrics open with, Me da Mido when you sails,
Starting point is 00:20:13 sonruing to the calle, because all can be the ollelitos that you say, which is, it scares me when you leave the house, smiling on the street, because everyone can see your cute little dimples, like when you leave. So she's insecure in the marriage and insecure in his sort of wandering eye.
Starting point is 00:20:33 The song is so fucking good. I had a phase where for three weeks straight, I only listened to this song all day, every day, for three weeks. Like the harmonies, the palmas, it's just like, I literally, I literally, yeah. I love her so much. I could actually, okay, I won't cry. I'm not going to cry. It's just like the clapping distance. It's just perfect. Okay. So now we see the jealousy creeping in. Now is when it really takes a turn for the worse. We see the sharp decline. from love and maybe some doubtful thoughts into a sharpshoot into abuse and how deeply and complexly the two can be related conflict and pain and jealousy and love and abuse it's all
Starting point is 00:21:23 packaged into this meatball that is so so hard to get out of so now we have capitoo Disputa, or disputea, which means argument. The title is, De Aki no Salas, which means you don't leave here. This song, this song goes so fucking hard, bitch. The first time I heard it, I was scared, I was so scared. I said, what the fuck is this? What does this mean? It's these intense motorcycle revs and skidding across whatever,
Starting point is 00:21:56 and it's her yelling and clapping and these weird chopped up vocals. It's just so intense. I had no idea. And in the context of the larger album, I have chills on my fucking arms. In the context of the album at large, it makes so much sense. It perfectly, perfectly sums up the emotions that both parties feel. This is told from the man's perspective, as is the wedding song. So it's like, oh my God, to sing that song also from the perspective of the abuser,
Starting point is 00:22:29 the one who's perpetrating. is crazy. What a crazy artistic choice. Okay, so, not to put it lightly, but he starts hitting her. He starts punching on her, whaling on her. But he frames it, like most fucking psycho-manipulators do, he frames it to be, this hurts him more than it's hurting her.
Starting point is 00:22:50 It pains him to do this, more than it's hurting her. Girl, I fucking hate men. I fucking hate men. Oh my God. Here's the lyrics. Much of my friends. me dole.
Starting point is 00:23:04 De loke of what you is doing. Conmigo, no tequila. With the revet of the
Starting point is 00:23:10 man, I let it let him clear. Which translates to, this hurts me way more
Starting point is 00:23:17 than it hurts you. Commigo, don't take it's okay. Don't fucking play with me. Don't mistake
Starting point is 00:23:24 me. With the back of my hand, I'll make it fucking clear to you. Like,
Starting point is 00:23:31 like, don't, like, this hurts me. to do this more than it hurts you, but with the back of my hand, I'll make it clear how much I mean that. Holy shit, dude. And like I said, this song also incorporates the tires squealing and the motorcycle engines revving as percussion in the song and the beats and the bass. And we see later in Rosalia's discography how much that sort of motel culture of Barcelona, where she's from, how much that really permeates her work and how important that culture is.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Her mom and all of her family members ride motorcycles with like leather jackets and like long hair and the helmets. Like she grew up on motorcycles. How fucking cool is that? So anyway, this song is fucking crazy. And she does a mashup of it live of this song with the crazy whatever mixed with a song from Multamami called Boulogillas, which is another just sold flat out flamenco song, which is so good.
Starting point is 00:24:28 The matchup is so good. It's my favorite part of the show, and it's just like, it brings me to tears. I wish I could play music. This is so like, you guys have to, you guys have to listen to it? It just sucks. Whatever, dude. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance, Fiscally Responsible, Financial Geniuses, Monetary Magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to progressive and save hundreds.
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Starting point is 00:26:13 which translates to I deny, just denial. I deny this is happening. And the title of the song is Lamento, which means lament, like to moan or to wail, to sob. The lyrics are basically expressing her crying on the inside but laughing on the outside, like any denial. Not really letting on that anything is wrong and kind of processing that in private. The lyrics are, like him, I deny that this is happening. Maybe it will stop.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Maybe it will stop if I act like it's not real. The next song is one of the standouts of the album because this bitch got the fucking green light from Justin Timberlake to sample Crime Me a River. Justin Timberlake doesn't give sample approvals to literally anyone. Also, she takes the melody, the... Dida-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-de-da-de-de-de-de-de-de-de. Completely like gets rid of the words. It's she's singing in Spanish and it has nothing to do with Cry-Me a River. It's so, so-so.
Starting point is 00:27:22 good. Okay. You might have heard this one before actually because it's so fucking good. We're now in Capitolo 6, chapter 6. It's called clausara, which means enclosure. And the title of the song is Prezzo, which means prisoner. So a prisoner in her jail cell, in her enclosure. Holy shit. I don't know if like, I'm sure a lot of you can relate to, I hope not, but I feel like every woman or soft-hearted person has a story of when you've been taken advantage of and when you find yourself in a situation where it's like, how the fuck? You know, like I just, I'm trapped and I don't know how to get out. So like I said, she's a prisoner. She can either accept this or attempt to break free. this song is just an instrumental with a sort of narration over it.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And it's by the Spanish actress Rosi de Palma. She's speaking over this track and she describes how you don't even realize you're trapped until it's too late. When you look up out of the bottom of the well, so to speak, and you realize how long you've been trapped here in the dark and you think, how the fuck did I get here? Like how did I let this happen? because it's never, you know, how could he do this to me? How could they do this to me?
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's how did I get here? Like, it's that immediate reaction to blame yourself first. It's kind of what this is about. The lyrics are, Teetrapa sin that te des quinta. You know when you sails. Pinses, how I, come, how I've gotten to here?
Starting point is 00:29:10 They trap you without even realizing, until you do realize, and you think, how the fuck did I get here? So we move from being a prisoner into, oh my God, I love the song, I'm chills again. We move from being a prisoner into Capitolo Sieti, which is called Liturgia, which translates to worship.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And the song is called Baghdad. Not Baghdad like the city. This is a famous nightclub in Barcelona. and this sort of represents the descent into hell of the protagonist as the story unfolds. And the previous song discusses this as well. It's like you don't even realize you're in hell until you start to feel the heat. Here's the lyrics. Passa van, la mirabhan.
Starting point is 00:30:09 La mirabhan sin berna. Solita in the inferno, in the infierno, in the infierno, is trapped. and she's going to burn if she stays here. So that says, passaban la mirabon. They are walking by her. They see her. They're watching her cry and be fucking miserable,
Starting point is 00:30:32 and they walk by and act like nothing's happening. You see it happening, but you choose to walk on. Solita in the infirno, alone in hell, in the infirno, is trapped in hell. and she's going to burn if she stays there. Bitch, Capitolo Ocho.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Ecstasis. Ecstasy. The title is, Di my name. Which means say my name. Bitch, this one? This one? I just have so many words.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I don't need, okay, let me, let me, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Okay. This one is very erotic, right? because this sort of relationship is so complex and so toxic. And it's erotic because this basically sums up the power of sex in an abusive relationship, how it can be used to control each other in a certain sense, because that's such a primal desire.
Starting point is 00:31:43 All emotion and logic go out of the window. It's really focusing in on how you can fucking hate someone so much. But at your core, you want them, which sounds a lot like misogyny to me. All right. Hey, guys, heard this one before. Hey, guys, clap twice if you know that one. Where you want someone so bad. You hate them so much, but you want them so bad. And in my mind, I see this is almost like a last-ditch effort at making it work. Like, was there ever really love here?
Starting point is 00:32:19 And if there was, maybe for a minute, maybe for 30, seconds we can recreate that love and try to rekindle what we had. Whatever spark was there before it all went south. And we can try to recreate it in the only way that we know how, which the only way that every time usually works. Here's the lyrics. Di my name, put your cuerpo contra the mill, and that the malo sea boeoeno and impuro lo beniciio. Say my name. Put your body again. against mine and make the bad be good. Like, taint the blessed, impure the blessed, the blessed.
Starting point is 00:33:01 The blessed. Say my name, put your body against mine. Holy shit. Like, there's a power in speaking each other's names and like, electroshocking each other, bad, like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Holy shit, I love her.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Okay, so we have this really erotic, you know, there's a lyric about, tie me to the bed frame with your hair and, you know, let's make love and let's try. Just try. And so the next song is so much more heart-wrenching when that is the predecessor, when that's the stepping stones that have been laid. I think honestly, like, this is the most heart-wrenching song on the fucking album and, like, no one ever talks about it. Capitolo 9. Concepcion. Conception. which means, of course, pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And the song is called Nana. So the unimaginable has happened. She is now pregnant with her abuser's child. This is her singing, this heart-wrenching, like, just this can't be happening. This heart-wrenching lullaby to this poor, innocent, beautiful body, product of something so, so cursed. And it's not explicit, but I think that this is my interpretation, which makes it even
Starting point is 00:34:36 sadder, I think. This is kind of how I interpreted the lyrics and the song, which is so much fun. What I think happened is that she's pregnant and she lost the child, which depending on how you look at that, which one is worse. Like, I'm not sure which is worse. having that child, which is a way to make something beautiful of something so terrible, having a second chance truly at something so terrible. But at the same time, you're bringing that child into a cruel world where that fucking
Starting point is 00:35:08 monster is its father. So it's like, girl, you can't win. I think either way, you can't win. And then on top of that, you know, I think, how I interpreted it is she loses the child. So it's like maybe you come to terms with the fact that, okay, I'm going to have this child and I'm going to make the best of it. And then after you've come to that realization and that acceptance and you're moving on, you lose it? Holy fuck. So now, I mean, my interpretation aside, she's pregnant. Now with this child in the picture, she no longer has
Starting point is 00:35:48 the option to remain inactive and to be a passerby. to be a victim, you know, of what's happened to her, this scenario that she's actively living through. She now has something to motivate her. We sometimes care about other things more than ourselves or our own lives even. So she can either stay in this personal hell forever, or she can try to break free, even if it fucking kills her. So next is Capitolo 10. Cordura, which means sanity, sense. Like she's had the sense knocked into her. And the title of the song is Maldicion, which means curse. So she's woken up.
Starting point is 00:36:32 She has woken up out of this almost slumber that maybe her body and her brain have put her into as a defense mechanism of this isn't happening, this isn't happening. Oh my God, it's happening. The lyrics are, me have said that no there's a lia. I have to encounter,
Starting point is 00:36:51 even that I queste the life or even I have to kill. Holy shit, bitch, holy shit. Me have said that no there's no exit.
Starting point is 00:37:03 But I have to find one. Even if it cost me my life or I have to kill him. There's chills all over my body. Can you see that? There's literally chills. So do you remember back when we were talking about
Starting point is 00:37:18 the wedding? We were still on our wedding night. And there was that lyric about her eyes shone like the reflection of light from the blade of a knife. And there's kind of like a sound effect of a knife being unsheaved that's in the wedding song. In this song, now eight songs later, when she's finally woken the fuck up and she has some sense about her, there's these knife sounds and slicing sounds and fighting grunts like of her killing him, bitch, which is a clear callback to the second song when he says her eyes shine
Starting point is 00:37:56 like light from a blade of a knife. Are you joking? What he once used to compliment her of like, oh, how her eyes shone, she's now fucking, fucking damn. Here are some of the lyrics. Oh my God. I need a tattoo for this song, actually. I just decided. Here are the lyrics. I've left a reguero that me He gave to the first day that I said that I want. I've left a trail of blood on the floor. I've left a trail that leads me to the first day that I told you that I loved you.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I've left a trail of blood on the floor that leads me to the first day that I told you that I loved you. Are you? Dude, that's just, that stupid as fuck. I feel. Oh my God, we're going to do a whole episode like this on Ho's Year. That sort of lyric, it's just like, I don't think there's anyone smarter on the planet.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Some of the forward-thinking minds and science, they could never write something like that. Einstein? Forget about it. He could never write. He'd beaueuero de sangre por el-suelo. He could never fucking do that, girl. There's just like this level of poetry.
Starting point is 00:39:36 of polish and poetry and the wording is just so, I can't even, I have no words. So now she's killed him, right? That's what we're to assume. She has reclaimed her power. She has killed him. She's slain the monster. Don't know where the kid is, right? I think she lost the child.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Maybe she still has the child. Never mentions it again. Now the grand finale. We land on this meditation. on power. Capitolo 11. Poder, which means power. The title is,
Starting point is 00:40:15 A Nungun Ombre, which means no man. Rosalia's retelling ends on this defiant edge. The album closer opens with the lyric, I won't allow any man to dictate my sentence.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Remember because she talked about how she was a prisoner, she was trapped, and she was in an enclosure, she was in hell. She won't allow any man to dictate her sentence or judge her unless it's fucking Jesus Christ himself. One of the lyrics that I'm obsessed with and from the moment I heard it and understood it,
Starting point is 00:40:48 I was like, oh, my God. I'm a tattooing in the pale. Tu initial, because it's the mia. To accordar me for sure of what me said a day. I'm going to tattoo on my skin, your initial, because it's mine. your initial that you gave me it's mine i will forever wear that scar to remind myself for forever what you did to me that day i will remind myself every single fucking day what you put me through and that i survived it hey i have chills again on my whole entire body
Starting point is 00:41:24 what the actual fuck is wrong with her what is wrong with her that is crazy i'm spitting everywhere That's crazy. And that's how the album ends. That's how the album, that's it. And then it's over? And I'm supposed to just listen to something else. Fuck you. Hey, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:41:51 I just like, albums like this or even Preacher's Daughter by Ethel K, and it's like, I get how some people can casually listen to it. But when you take a deep dive, nose head first, into the actual like heart-wrenching whatever. That is how I feel like the people who wait barricade for the 1975 for Harry, for Rosalia, for Ethel Cain. There is such a deep, deep, deep, spiritual connection with this sort of art, I think.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And I think that I wish I could make every single person understand that this is Rosalia to me. This beautiful and experimental and heart-wrenching and storytelling nature of what she does. I want people to hear that and to respect her for that. And what a absolute masterpiece this is other than Biscuito or that TikTok song. You know, because she can do both. And that's the beauty of it.
Starting point is 00:42:52 That is the beauty and what makes an actual true artist is you can do it all. Range, range! Her visual work is what really draws people in. And so if you don't understand what she's saying, obviously because not everyone speaks Spanish, she considers the visual element of her art a crucial way of communication between the artist and the consumer, which I think is also so fucking important when you're not singing in English. You know, for any international artist, because for whatever fucking reason, colonialism and imperialism, probably. You know, English is the way to top the charts.
Starting point is 00:43:25 You have to be number one in America and in the UK. Like, that's just how it works. and I think it's so bold and brave to refuse that, as a lot of Latin artists are doing now. You know, like, I'm going to actually sing in Spanish. And there's not going to be a single fucking English word in the song, and it's still going to go number one. I think that's so cool, first of all,
Starting point is 00:43:46 and second of all, such a defiant, interesting thing. Rosalia really, like, supplements that. She'll throw some English words in there. You know, maybe the chorus is in English or whatever, but it's still a Spanish language song. But the visual element is really what the girls die for because it's so good. Also, hey, just really quick. Oh my God, I need to talk about her tattoo.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You know, I am, I'll get a tattoo for anything. Okay? If you say a funny joke, I'll be like, damn, I need to get that tattooed. But also at the same time, my tattoos really, really, really mean a lot to me, and they remind me of my favorite things. And yeah, I have a Motamami tattoo right there, okay? And yeah, it's a little crusty and peeling. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Don't worry about it. Okay? I wouldn't worry about it. You guys are worried for no reason. Okay, her tattoo. Listen to this. Rosalia has a garter belt buckle tattooed on her left thigh in reference to a 1970 body art performance by Valley Export.
Starting point is 00:44:48 In the tattoo, the garter appears as a symbol of a past slavery, the dress as the suppression of sexuality, the garter as an attribute of a femininity not determined by ourselves. Let me say that one more time. The dress as the suppression of sexuality, the garter as an attribute of a femininity not determined by ourselves. The patriarchy. The male gays.
Starting point is 00:45:20 We as women don't get to define the terms of our own femininity, of our own womanhood, because it has been preset, for us. There is a mold that you need to fit or you won't, you're not desirable. You won't make it. You won't fit in. You're not good. A sheet like completely, you know, throwing that ideology out the window is really, it's so, oh my God, I love her. A social ritual that covers one of the physical needs, the opposition of our culture to the body is clear. The garter as a sign of belonging to a class that demands a specific behavior becomes a memory.
Starting point is 00:46:04 That's from Spanish Vogue, by the way. Credit to the author, Alexandra Lores, beautifully, beautifully said. The whole album, the whole article is really great. And her nail, she always has super long nails, which she's described them as an exhibition of radical femininity, an exhibition and a celebration of radical femininity. I love that. Radical. Because it is radical.
Starting point is 00:46:28 You know, like in this and I mean, speaking from personal experience, like how I grew up, it is radical to dress how you want and to love yourself openly, you know, without having to qualify it as, you know, I've struggled with insecurities and now I finally learned to love myself. And yeah, I am beautiful. You shouldn't have to qualify it. Yes, know that you are beautiful. No, just hit my microphone. I'm screaming and punching everything, knocking over cups and spit. non-stuff. You should never have to qualify something positive about yourself, especially when it comes to your femininity or your womanhood or your identity, how you identify as just such a God. So yeah, it is a radical celebration of femininity as it fucking should be. Okay, this is part one. I'm doing a part two because fuck you bitches. I don't care. This is my podcast. I want to talk about Rosalia for 87 episodes. I'm going to do it because guess what? I love her. And all of you guys, actually, hey guys, here you. New law change.
Starting point is 00:47:33 If you don't like Rosalia after this episode, get out. Okay? You got to get out. Even if you don't listen to her music, if you don't want to listen to her music, just respect what she's done here as an artist in this one concept album. That is all I'm asking is to be like, holy shit, that's actually really great. That's all I want. That's all I want.
Starting point is 00:47:54 She's literally my hero. She's one of my idols. She has influenced me in so many ways. of how to think about myself, how to reimagine how I view relationships with men, relationships with people in my life. She's like Harry in the sense that you never see a video of, you know, Rosalia diva moments, Rosalia being a bitch. You never see that about Harry and you never see it about Rosalia.
Starting point is 00:48:17 So I think that that's really, really, really something to be admired, especially in this industry where people are kind of out to make you look bad and they want to see you fall. Um, you won't see that. You won't see that from Harry. Harry will never, ever, ever give you bad content. So Rosalia either. I love her so much. And I think I'm going to do Motamami next episode.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So I love you guys so much. And thank you for listening and for indulging me because I have wanted to talk about Rosalia for a long time. And on my second account on TikTok, I always, you know, I make you guys suffer through what I'm liking that moment. And I think it's so fun because a lot of the time I'll sit there and I'll talk about, oh, I love this or I'm watching that. And then a lot of people know it, especially if I'm reading a book, they're like, oh, bestie, wait so you get to this chapter, wait till this. So that's fun to like talk to people who get it and can play along and, you know, it's so easy to find a community of people with shared interests. But this is one of those things where it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:24 I want to be, if you've never taken her seriously, like let me be the one to explain academically and in a detailed fashion why she is incredible. Okay, that's all. I'm going to shut the fuck up now. I love you guys. Please rate this podcast five stars. Go ahead and give us a like on YouTube. Give us a subscribe on, um, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:49:52 Spotify. I had two cocktails. okay. Cocktails. I have some dick and cocktails. Spotify, I have a podcast, whatever you want, whatever you listen on, whatever you choose. Maybe you guys can come sit in the studio with me, okay? You guys can just all sit on the floor and we can do a live taping, okay? Only like three of you guys though, because it gets hot in here with a lot of breath happening, a lot of breathing. So, all right. Thanks for listening. And we'll catch you next time on part two of Rosalia. You started your business with a great idea and a ton of hustle.
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