The Bryce Crawford Podcast - Disney Star David Henrie Reveals the Dark Side of Fame

Episode Date: September 21, 2026

Disney Star David Henrie Reveals the Dark Side of Fame

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I thought I was like dying. My vision was blurring and my hands were getting all sweaty and I made him take me to the hospital. I'd never lost control before. It's the freaking worst. And I'd made money and I'd done well. I just, I didn't find anything valuable. So we'd all do the Disney Channel games and there was no Instagram, right? So like, we'd be like, hey, Jonas Brothers and Selena, whoever, like, let's go hang out at

their jacuzzi and just chill. You could never do that now. Someone would be filming. Someone would be listening. It'd be a whole thing. But it was awesome, man. I was embarrassed to talk to any other man about it. It was mortified.

Like, I'm going to push through this. I'm Italian. Oh, I'm Rocky doing. It led me down a really dark path. I really struggled. What has being openly Christian in Hollywood cost you? Hollywood's a time. thing man it's like it's so easy to lose yourself it's so easy to sell your soul i know stories of people that i've

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I recommend not trusting any random resellers. I genuinely believe that this is going to be a night. People care with them for a long time and I'd love to see you there. All right, let's get into this episode. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford podcast. I'm Bryce. And today we're with David Henry. Thank you for having me, man. Thank you very much. Dude, you know, it is very refreshing sitting down with people that have been in front of cameras a lot. You know, it's like, it's easier to have like a conversation. You know, sometimes they can get in front of the camera. It's a little nervous and you like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. But it is nice to have conversations with people that are in front of the camera because then it's just like, you know, it's casual and you're not tense and it's great. I'm so grateful you're here, man. I'm grateful to be here, man. Thank you very much. And these cameras are all nice and little. Like when you're on a TV show, the cameras are like huge and in your face. So this is like, it's like we're hanging in your living room.

We're just, we're just chilling, man. Well, I know that you're Catholic. Yes. I'm Protestant. So the Protestant problem we have is like, we'll be at church, right? And I'll be like hit one of these and I open my eyes and there's like a 90 millimeter camera lens like in my face. You know what I mean? You like open your eyes and or you're kind of like standing there with your hands crossed, you know, worship in.

And then you like open your eyes and there's a camera lens and you just like hit one of these, you know. It's like a sporting game or whatever. You made it to the Megatron. Yeah. It's going on the truck. church socials, man. You got to be ready for it. That's awesome. Dude, before we kind of dive in, I just want to know who is David Henry? That's a very deep question. Like, who are you? What is your identity?

I am, I'm a son of God. I'm Catholic. I'm a husband. I'm a father of four, Father four on earth, and then we have 10 in heaven. We have 10 in a better place. And then I try to entertain. My mission is just to try to make good content that can make the world a better place. But yeah, first and foremost. Like that's why I love doing like, we do the sign of the cross, right? And it's like, you could think, why are you doing that?

Are you swatting a fly? Like, what are you doing? But it's very linked to identity because you, like as Catholics, we very much say, we start with identity. Who is our identity? our identity is in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. That's our identity in the shape of the cross. We're calling our baptismal grace, that entrance into union with Christ. So for me, who am I?

That, but a sinner. That's me, brother. That's me. You know, that's one of like my, and, you know, we'll get into this later on, just like things that I got so many questions, just general questions. But one of the things I admire about all my Catholic friends is the deeper reverence that they have, like, for the Lord. Yeah. That has encouraged me so much in my walk whenever I, like, talk to my Catholic friends or meet more Catholics.

I'm just like, man, like you guys have this fear of God that is rare, maybe to say. Maybe not rare amongst Catholics, right? But maybe more like in the general, I got to be, because I'm not like, I'm a Protestant. You know, I go to non-denomination. I go to a non-denomination. But I tend to lean a little bit more charismatic when I view like the Holy Spirit and stuff like that. And, you know, I'm not saying that, you know, Protestants and evangelicals don't have reference for God. But there's something beautiful about the way that you guys view the sacraments.

And yeah, I just, yeah, I love it. And I admire it and respect it a ton. I just noticed this is totally not apart. Is that Mike Manhart's? Oh, this? Yeah. Dude, I love this guy. Forget about me.

I love you. This guy's amazing. He is amazing. I noticed it on your, dude. This, this is family. F-A-M-I-L-Y, forget about me, I love you. This guy has an incredible ministry. Does like homeless ministry all over.

And like, this is always a good reminder to me to, you know, forget about me. I love you. Like, who am I here serving? He is one of the most amazing human beings. I haven't talked to him, gosh, in forever. But when I first moved out here, like, I got connected with him and was like passing out meals with him on Friday sometimes. And just like, he was a big blessing to me.

And I have so much respect for Mike. So that is so crazy. Yeah, yeah. He's amazing. Forget about me. I love you. Well, dude, so I got to be honest, you're a big part of my childhood. Oh, thanks, bro. I grew up on Wizards of Waverly Place. I thought it was amazing. So thank you for being a part of my early developmental years and encouraging me along the way.

Thank you very much. So, how did you get into acting as a kid? It's a big Italian family, right? Big Italian family. But I grew up in Arizona. I didn't have any formal connection to the industry. It's just a big Italian family. being funny and entertaining the family. And everyone was like, oh, you got, you got talent. You should figure out a way to try this. And like a fluke chance, I'm watching TV and there's like, hey, there's an audition for like a manager in Hollywood that could send you out on auditions. And I beg my mom to call. And, and like it worked out. And I went to LA the next day or a couple days later,

audition for this manager, got with this person. And they start sending me on auditions. And I just start like like booking. I just started like getting things because I was just like a kind of a normal kid in Arizona and I was born in Mission Viejo but my childhood in Arizona and you know it's just one of those things you know luck circumstance time and and I was just kind of a normal kid like a lot of these professionally trained little kid actors were like very I don't kind of robotic and I just get in there and talk about sports or whatever with the directors and they're like yeah you're just like a normal kid and I'm like yeah and I'm like yeah and I'm like yeah and I'm like you're to entertain and I like to have fun and they're like, all right, you want the role? And I like

started booking all these things. And my parents supported me. I didn't have any religion in my life at the time. And I got very busy and I got working and working and working until now. But definitely didn't have any faith or anything in my life. But yeah, I just kept cranking away, man, doing the child acting thing. So just personally, you didn't have any faith in your life growing up or like your family grew up a certain way? We did grow up Catholic. So I was baptized. but very culturally Catholic, and this is a problem, and there's a problem

in all denominations, but really Catholics in particular, especially in the 90s. It's a very watered down period of time in church history, and I didn't see any representation of men in the Catholic faith. I grew up thinking,

my dad called our local priest, father twinkle toes. And he is probably, he was probably right. This guy's a little light in the loafers. And, the loafer. The guy's a little light in the lovers.

And so I saw no, as a man, I saw no representation for me in that church. I thought that, I thought that it was for women. And I thought, okay, they go pray, men do other things. And so I just did my thing. I worked as an actor and just kept kind of climbing and climbing and climbing. But it built a massive void in me, which led to a conversion later in life. What was your family like growing up? Parents still married.

Amazing. Um, very loving relationship. My dad, my dad was actually Presbyterian. And his dad was a like a youth minister at their, at their local church. But he saw some people stealing from like the, I don't know how they do it, but the way that they take their donations, he saw some people stealing and he saw a couple scandalous things. And he was like, okay, we're out.

So my dad grew up with a father that was very against Christianity because of the things that he saw. So my dad always said. oh yeah, I'm like Presbyterian or Protestant. And my mom is like culturally Catholic. She always had a relationship with God and always like, what do we say? I love God and I believe in God. But your father won't take us, you know, but doesn't want to go to church.

And the one or two times a year, we would go to church Christmas and Easter. He would be making fun of father, twinkle toes. And then he would be, he would be squeezing our hands during the Our Father. You know, when it's time to pray they are Father, he'd be squeezing our hands and joking around with us. So I admire my dad because he came from nothing. He had nothing growing up. And he's a hard worker and he built a great life for me and my brother. So I as a son admired my father.

But he didn't take it serious. And if he's not taking it serious, then I'm not going to take it serious. And I thought I'm just going to live to make money and work hard. And God used that for later in life when I had a big change. But yeah, man, it was just crazy. I literally right around the corner. I grew up in studio. city, you know, not too far from here.

Did you ever been to Aroma Cafe over there? Oh, I used to live at Aroma Cafe practically. Like, I was there every day. Dude, that's the best spot. Aroma Cafe is amazing. It's amazing. And it's been cool for like, it's been cool for 20 years. Like, I've been going there since before it was as cool as it is now.

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My wife, when I met her originally, she would go there and read her Bible for hours and stack up parking tickets outside. Your wife was reading her Bibles at a Roma cafe? Yeah. That is so, like, Hollywood's not. like you're in Texas, you know, or like you're in like, I don't know, a state that has much more evangelical influence. Like, you don't read your Bible at a Roma cafe. That's amazing. Yeah, it was a- She had a witness in herself. It was like she would start so many conversations with

people and, yeah, she was just awesome, but she would, she would stay there for hours and for good to go refill the parking meter. Oh, and then she would just get tickets every day. Oh, and those add up. I mean, that's brutal. I mean, they, they are pretty quick to give you the ticket, the parking ticket out here at the theater. They're like sitting there just waiting for it. They're like, when's the girl with the Bible? Can it keep going to get stuck in Galatians? Yeah, yeah. You know what's so funny to me about your acting journey is I feel like the typical haunting, I don't know, maybe this is your mom's hesitation on the manager, but you just hear about so many scams. Oh, yeah. Where you call and then you pay the manager money or something and it's like whatever and you're just like, yeah, so an ad on TV called,

then I started booking. And then you hear like, all these crazy horrors. stories. Oh, yeah. No, looking back on it, it totally should have been a scam. Like, if I'd tell anyone, I'd say, don't do what we did. Like, it totally looks like a scam in hindsight. But it wasn't. It was, it was a real manager that, like, for some reason, picked up our call and for some

reason it worked out. But no, most of those things are like scammy and weird and, like, the old kid actor topic is like a whole other topic of, like, very tragic situations. But I had two good parents that, like, they didn't need my money. they didn't need me to work. They didn't need any of that. And a lot of times, that's not the case. But they didn't need any of that for me.

They were just like, as long as you're having fun, we're going to do this. But you know, my dad was always like, in the second year down to California, I don't like a lot of people out there. So let's get back to Arizona as soon as you're really possible. But yeah, it just kept working, man. It just kept working. I kept at it. I worked hard and climbed the ladder.

What was it like being a Disney kid? I was a Disney kid before social media. So, like, it was like the last year. and I just did the Jonas Brothers podcast right before this and we were talking about this because like we would go do like Disney Channel games and it would be, do you remember that Disney Channel? Yes, yes, I did. Like you'd all wear the colors and you'd like compete, you know,

and like so we'd all do the Disney Channel games and there was no Instagram, right? So like, it would be like, hey, Jonas Brothers and Selena, whoever, like, let's go hang out at the jacuzzi and just chill. And we'd like walk through the lobby and go into the jacuzzi, hang out. You could never do that now. you could never do that someone would be filming someone would be listening it'd be a whole thing but um it was awesome man it was awesome it was like i think that last period of time of disney before everything changed before streaming before all of it it was like the last moment of because back in

the day you only had how old are you i'm 22 22 okay so yeah like growing up you probably only had a cut you had disney nicolodian yeah and that's kind of it and then like cartoon network and maybe boomerang if you were epic maybe yeah if you wanted to watch some like bad Dragon Ball Z or something. Yeah, something cool. Tom and Jerry Looney Tunes. Yeah. Like all that.

Yeah. But that was it. You had three choices. And now it's like, because we're doing this new show for Disney right now. And the kids are asking me like, hey, what's it going to be like? What's it like to be a Disney channel star? What's it going to be like? And I was like, honestly, guys, it's just different now.

Like, you don't just have three channels. Every young person in the world has 20 influencers they follow, 20 different YouTube channels they follow, thousands of choices of. of content on many different streaming platforms, like it's not as centralized as it as it was. So it's just different. But that was that time. Grew up in that time where it was like old school,

people actually wanted autographs, like they wanted you to sign things. Now it's like pictures and videos and it's not a knock. It's just the times were different, you know? And it was a, it was like a pure, more wholesome time to be an actor. You could just like, plus you also didn't have the immediate feedback.

Like now, So when you post a video, it's like immediately, bang, you're getting comments, you're getting likes, dislikes, you're getting everything. Good, bad, and the ugly. You're seeing it all right there. And growing up, you didn't have that. You just made a show. You put it out.

I don't know what people are saying. I got no idea. There's no way for me to know, you know. And that kind of kept you a little detached in a good way. It's like, I think people like it. And it seems like a lot of people are watching, but I didn't have to deal with all the feedback. It's so hard, even as an adult now, to read negative feedback. And it's like, man, if I was a kid dealing with all.

that. It'd be kind of tough. It's interesting for you to say that maybe like the, well, well, I agree. The pressures are definitely different. We're like having access to every person on the planet is, is toxic. And, you know, nowadays, like the new trading card is a picture with someone. Like the amount of people that probably run up to you and like take a picture and leave and you're like, oh, I didn't even get your name. Yeah. Like, where are you from? Like, you know what I mean? But the way that you describe the experience, it just seems different from, well, I know we'll get more into your story and stuff like that, but like from the outside looking in, you see outside of Disney,

like all these child stars grow up and then they just like crash or bad stuff happens. Yeah. Things like that. Like, I mean, just Hayden Panty Tierra just passed away. Why do you think so many child stars crash? Make sure rest in peace. Dude, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, isn't that sad? Yeah, when was that?

This was yesterday. This is last night. And what happened? I don't know the full story. I just know that I don't think the full story's developed yet, but she died and everyone reported that she passed away. But yeah, me she rests in peace. It's like I grew up with,

I wasn't best friends with her or anything, but we're around the same age at Sierra at auditions. And I knew her little brother who also has passed away. God rest his soul. But, you know, it's a, it's a tough place, man. It's a tough place. Like if you don't have two parents, we're very much there to protect you and guard you,

it's a place that can chew up and spit you out. Like you're, you change in front of people all the time. It's like you go to do wardrobe and you're a kid. And it's like, we got six different wardrobe options for you here. Take off your clothes and get in them. And we're going to take pictures and you're there

with a bunch of adults looking at you when you're in your underwear. And if I didn't have my parents around, my mom to say, hey, put up a cloth or take them in the other room or whatever. Like most kid actors would just do that. Yeah. And it's like, we don't know,

you don't know those people sitting on the couch on the other side of the, and a lot of people have been taking advantage of in that. way a lot of people I know we're taking advantage of in the wardrobe room a lot of kid actors that I know um and on top of that it's like your brain is not even near developed like you're nowhere near fully developed and you have agents and managers and lawyers and fame and money and if your parents aren't protecting you and saving your money you're paying them yeah that's like the opposite your parents are supposed to provide and protect you you're not supposed to provide for them yeah like that is a to a kid that's like psychology breaking like breaking

I have a buddy who's a really well-known actor tried to commit suicide last year. And I saw it. Like, as a young person who was sent out here and lived in like a kid acting apartment where like all a bunch of other boys and girls moved into and shared rooms and they'd like stack them up in these rooms. It's like it's like inhumane. And they had like a guardian who was like the manager who would send them on things and drive them places. That who knows who that is. It's not their parents.

And like that's the kind of, that's the kid acting world that I, that I came up in. It's that kind of stuff. And other parents, I'd see if their kids didn't succeed in audition because they need the money, they'd make them run around buildings. They'd be like, you're not getting any ice cream now because you messed up that audition. And, oh yeah, I know so many horror stories about. So that was that common for parents to be like a pimp for their kids in the child acting world. Yeah. Yeah.

That is crazy. And a lot of times they're leaving a broken situation, you know, they're leaving their spouses and they're taking the kid and they're going across the country. and I need you to succeed. It's like, imagine having that pressure. How hard is it now as just a living in this day and age as adults to deal with pressure? Like, pressure is not easy. There's a big responsibility on us. And imagine doing that as a kid.

Your brain is not developed. Like, I want to write this book one day, man. I think the title of the book is, would I let my kid act? And I want to sit down with all my friends that I've grown up with, some very famous actresses and actors, some that you don't know, but we're there doing it and working. I just want to ask him that question and like see where the conversation goes because like everyone who has kids is like my kids talented. How do we get in the business? I want to talk to you about how you did it.

And I'm always just like, ooh, just told on. Like it's a like I think it's a very special calling. And there's nothing wrong with like theater improv giving your kid a great creative outlet. Like that's beautiful. That's beautiful. But like the professional child acting world. you know, I had good parents and I still went through a lot. Like I still went through abnormal pressures that kids don't have and I had to go through

therapy for it later in life and still deal with effects of just like abnormal understandings of pressure because as a kid, that was, you know, there's hundreds of people around watching me and I'm sitting in front of executives and agents and managers and, you know, that's a lot. That's a lot of pressure before your brain and body are developed enough to understand the reality of what's going on so you can process it better. approach a situation better. Yeah.

So I think it's a very rare, for all the parents out there with kids that are thinking to doing this, I think it's a very rare calling. And that's morality aside. Yeah. Now when you factor in like,

well, what am I doing and what's the content that I'm doing and what kind of stuff am I going to be a part of? Especially if you're Christian, that's a whole additional set of rules that you're going to place on yourself. So yeah, I think it's just a very rare

and special thing. And anytime I work with kids, I try to create an environment that I wished I had as a kid. So it's very important to me to make them feel safe and treat them as kids. Don't treat them like little adults. You know, treat them as kids.

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But I definitely had some hard moments, man. I mean, I definitely had a lot of hard moments where it's like, what led to my conversion ultimately was going through depression, like really struggling and going through a deep depression because I finished the Disney show and and I had made money and I'd done well and I just I didn't find anything valuable like I had a question where is value what is value what is meaning and it just made me it made me depressed man I started having all these feelings and all these thoughts and all these like these foreign things where I was like why am I feeling this way why am I thinking this way why am I getting nervous where are my handshake What were all these coming from?

Like what is this, like, what is going on? And I was like, I'm not going to therapy. I'm not doing anything that. I'm gonna push through this. I was embarrassed to talk to any other man about it, especially. I was mortified, like, I'm gonna push through this, I'm Italian, I'm Italian, you know, like, and-

I'm Italian. I was like, what would Rocky do? What would Rocky do? And, and, you know, it led me down a really dark path. And I was, I really struggled, and I really struggled. And it brought me to a low point, though, where I said,

man, I need something. Like, I need something. I don't know what it is. And I didn't want it to be Christianity because I felt that that was overplayed. And like I said, effeminate. And I was like, I'm not doing that. And God has a sense of humor.

He didn't let up on me. And yeah, that's a whole other story. The value question is so interesting because I didn't become a Christian until I was a junior and similar thing. Like Jesus met me when I was at my lowest of lows in depression, anxiety, and every ounce of brokenness you can imagine. But this question rang in my head constantly and still does today, like as a heart check. I went to probably

a Christian school. And my sophomore year Bible teacher had asked our class a question, or three questions, but he basically was like, where do you find your satisfaction? What gives you significance? And where is your security? And if, one of those three things isn't in Jesus, then there's a big problem. And even now, like as a heart check, being a Christian, where you can say, oh, yeah, like, it's cool. I'm like, a Christian, I follow Jesus. And yeah, I try to make him out my thing. But then maybe, you know, in marriage, maybe you accidentally put security in your marriage because you're like, oh, well, you're locked down for eternity right now. So maybe it's cool. Or you do this or, you know, other people outside of

Christianity, they put it in money, things, substances, whatever it may be. And that just has all always been such a big heart check for me. Give me it again. Where do you put your... Where do you find your significance? Significance. What gives you satisfaction? Okay, significant satisfaction.

Where do you find your security? Okay, three S's. Significance, satisfaction, security. Yeah, dude, all my answers were not God. They were all not God. It was like basically my existence was in the eyes of others. Do they approve of me? am I what's my success what's my status what's all of that none of it was in none of it was in christ none of it was in christ and that was the problem that was a problem it led me to a complete

like i mean if you're not living your life for something bigger if you're not living your life for christ ultimately you're living for yourself and the more you chase that it's going to hit a wall eventually and and and i did and i hit a big wall but that you know i love that um is it chasterton or a C.S. Lewis that says God, I think it's C.S. Lewis, that says God uses pain as a megaphone to rouse a deaf world. And that was that moment for me, where that pain was transformed, ultimately,

into God used that to prick my conscience, to make me open to Christ and his truths and his teachings. Before we kind of get into that low, like that low point of your life, looking back on all the knowledge you have on just the, I don't know, acting industry, acting industry in general. If your kids wanted to be actors or actresses, would you let them?

Here's the problem. My daughter is super funny. Like my seven-year-old, she is super funny and quirky and she's hilarious and she does my lines, she'll watch my shows and she'll like she'll come up to me and like repeat my lines and they're so cute and I like, I so would want to put her in things that are my own things. Like I like to act in my stuff.

I'd let her do some lines in my things. But the grind of a child actor world, no, no, man, it is not, it's a professional setting. Like, it's a, it's the kid brain is not, I'm just trying to raise little, little saints, and I'm trying to get my kids to heaven. And like, I'm focused on that. And like, that's my goal right now is, is just that. And I don't want to expose them to that world. Because I think that world is reserved for certain people, but not, not one of my kids right now.

Yeah. Could what I put them in myself? Yes. Would I let them do drama and improv and theater and plays? Absolutely. Absolutely. That's all fun and that's all hobbies. That's good.

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Like from 16 to like 20, it started to wear off. You know, it started to wear off. I was just a kid who, you know, I did, I did make a lot of money and I was traveling and doing all the things. But it's like bubble gum, like you put a piece of bubble gum in and then it loses his flavor and you put another one in. Now you got two loses flavor twice as fast. And then you got like the whole pack in your mouth and you're like, I'm chewing on a piece of rubber that's disgusting.

I want to spit this crap out and you spit it out. And you're like, that was me with pleasure and that was me with stuff. I was just like getting one thing after the other. and I remember I hit this low point where I was, there was this family that like, Uber wealthy royal family and they invited me to like their place and overseas and I got to, everything was free.

Like everything was free. Everything you could possibly want in this like five store resort was free. And I remember it like setting my head into a tailspin because I was like, like that $20,000 dollar bottles free. And they're like, yeah. that like $4,000 or whatever, like they just bring it over. And it's like, yeah, here it is. No issues, no issues at the hotel, whatever you want.

The finest piece of meat, the finest this, that you want a $10,000 bottle of wine. It was all just there. Yeah, whatever you want. It's all, it's our place. And it's one of the best hotels in the world, by the way. Yeah, like, it's unbelievable. And it was just like a kind of a, I literally was like tasting the things. And I was like, I kept saying, oh, no, because I'm like, it's just alcohol.

It's just this. It's just that. Like, and the world's playing this game where they buy these things. and you have to work your whole life to be able to buy these things. And for these people, it's nothing. It's like literally nothing. And I'm like, what is value? Am I living in some like alternate duped world where we're all in this rat race trying

to get things that people put numbers on and ascribe value to? But for them, it's nothing. And I'll never be able to afford this kind of stuff. I don't care how wealthy I am. I'll never be able to spend $100 grand in a night just to have dinner. Like this is what is the, so it like sent me in this really weird. It kind of culminated in that moment. And that's when my anxiety in life was really starting.

to kick up and peak because I was, I felt like I was in this rat race and I felt like meaning was not being attained and there was no value. And it really just, it really just messed with my mind, man. And then it made me lose stability mentally because I was like, well, what am I supposed to be doing? Like, what is my purpose? And then that made me start to feel antecedent emotions and anxieties and things I didn't understand. And that sent me spinning. And it was, it was that kind of period of time where it it lost its uh it's uh it's saber and you know girls and partying and all this stuff it just all kind of wore off and i was like yeah i need something yeah like because this isn't working so i started studying like buddhism and i was like what's a cool new agey kind of thing

and i read that book the secret and uh it started setting like comparative mythology and i was just researching and searching and finding and um yeah it was a crazy journey, bro. What was the lowest point for you? When I started having panic attacks, that was, that was the low, that was the low points. You know, you ever had a panic attack? Like once or twice, but were they more of like a frequent thing for you? It was only a handful. It was only handful. But I'd never lost control before. I mean, they're the worst. It's the freaking worst. They're the worst. It's the freaking worst. It's the freaking worst. But I'd never had a panic attack. I'd never lost control.

And I remember the first one that I had, I thought it was like, I thought I was like dying, you know, as one does in a panic attack. And when I went to my dad, I like my vision was blurring and my hands were getting all sweaty. And I made him take me to the hospital. I thought he was having an allergic reaction at the time and to something. And I totally lost control. It was that moment where fear conquered. And this is when I was, all the stories I just mentioned were going on and coming out of like questioning value and everything and what am I going to do with my life and and the panic attack started.

And that just totally sunk me, bro. It just sunk me where I was like after it happened and I realized it's just a panic attack. It wasn't anything. After that happened like I was thrown completely off kilter, completely off kilter. my confidence was gone my um i thought it could happen at any moment i didn't want to go to therapy i didn't want to talk to someone about it and that threw me completely off kilter and really started me on a journey where i said i need to find something i need to find something that i believe in i need to find a belief um but yeah it was the panic attacks bro that was that was that was that was awful my hands

collapsed and got clammy and my heart was racing and it was all of it i was sweating and and and the whole freaking thing. And now that I've done therapy, like, you can deal with this stuff very quickly. And there's techniques and things you can do to stop it. And now, you know,

I haven't had one in, you know, since before I was married, you know, so more than 10 years. But looking back on it, I wish I would have been more proactive on the mental health component.

Yeah. And, like, actually reached out to people, talk to people, gotten a therapist because it wasn't the end of the world. It was just fear consuming you. And there's, techniques you can do mentally to avoid that. And obviously prayer now, I know about prayer.

I didn't have prayer then. But yeah, it was, it was, that was gnarly, bro. That was gnarly. Walk me through how you came back to faith. How'd I come back to faith? So I'm in this low point, right? Yeah. I'm dealing with anxiety. I'm dealing with all of it. I'm about to get this movie called Hunger Games. Remember Hunger Games? Yep. So Liam Hemsworth's role, the taller one in the movie. It was like down to me and him. Whoa. And then I had another movie called Little Boy that I was up for as well. So I was up for those two movies, like, right at the same time, these two films. And I go into the audition for Hunger Games.

I have a great meeting with Jennifer Lawrence and the director. And come out and then Liam Hempsworth comes in, who's like, his brother's movie, Thor had just come out and like crushed it. And this guy comes in this whole king, handsome, just stud. I was like, yeah, oh boy, I got a tough. This guy's a freaking stud. He gets the role. good for him. And then afterwards, I got this movie called Little Boy. And I'm still dealing with the anxiety then, dealing with anxiety. And I remember as I was driving out there, one of my

irrational fears was like, I can't breathe, I'm worried about breathing and I'm going to hyperventilate or whatever. And I'm driving out there. And I'm almost going to have a pan attack. Well, I booked the movie and they're driving me out there to do it. And I'm worried about that. So that's all going on in life. And I'm just in this point of like loneliness, right? But I get this movie and it seems good. And I get invited to a philosophy night on set, which I'm like, what? Like, a philosophy night on a movie set? That's not normal. Yeah, what is? No, no. Okay, I'm just making sure if there's like a secret to the business. I don't know about it. No, no. It's totally abnormal. Like, no, I've never seen a, I've never heard of a philosophy night, first of all. And then,

like a philosophy night on a movie set, very abnormal, very abnormal. Yeah. Well, it's like, all right, I'm studying Buddhism. I'm learning about like, method. and come to philosophy night, you know. And it was cool because, like, the start of the philosophy night was basically the guy, one of the producers who was leading it, basically said, if you have any religious beliefs, leave them at the door. We're not talking about religion. We're not talking about any of that.

All we're talking about is a leaf. And I'm like, what? What's going on? And he goes, yeah, a leaf. And it fell from a tree. And let's talk about that. I was like, okay, this is kind of fun. This is interesting.

Let's talk about the leaf. I was having a beer and, all right, let's talk about the leaf. And he goes, where'd it come from? And I was like, yeah, that tree. Okay, where did the, what knocked it off? Okay, well, I had to fall. I don't know, squirrel bit it, you know? And he goes, he goes, yeah, sure, where'd the squirrel come from?

And so we start going back and back and back and back and back and all these contingent causes that are like leading back and back and back and back and gets to the earth and the solar system and the stars and the cosmos. and is it does it have an infinite regression or or a finite regression is there beginning and um i was like oh i never really never really thought of that infinite or finite well had to be infinite right because it's like going on and on and on and it was like well if it's infinite then why are things expanding you know why can you see like the red shift in the Hubble telescope with light and we can tell that things are expanding like why is that and like okay that's cool then well then it

couldn't have been an infinite regression like there had to have been some finite cause and wow, that's a curious thing. Like if something was finite, then, well, everything came from something because something can't come from nothing. Wow, that's curious. So something started everything. Ooh, that's interesting. And so my mind got thinking, right, about that concept.

And so then the next philosophy night, I was like, I want to come back. This is really interesting. Like, this is pointing towards something. And then the next time was talking about, well, look at what's around us. Like, everything seems to be really finely tuned. like there's math in the universe and there's like gravitational rules and constants and if you change any of it by like point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one degrees none of us are here like it seems to be very finely tuned okay that's curious like something

caused everything and it has intelligence like sprinkled throughout it huh huh well intelligence I mean look at a painting you know there's an artist and it's like well okay well there's fingerprints of something that created everything and yeah and so I start doing all these classes and it's leading me, it's leading me, it's leading me, asking all these questions. And it gets to this point where I realize this thing is God. This thing is God. What we're talking about. This thing, this thing, this is God.

This all-powerful thing that created everything that put intelligence into the universe, that created rational beings that can think and choose, that there's morality. That's interesting. That's got to be God. And then I was like, my life's going to change. I used to always say I'm lucky. I always say, oh, I'm lucky. My parents can afford to fly me to L.A.

and bring me into this life and I can work and I can make this money. A lot of people don't have it as good as me. I'm just lucky. I'm just lucky. And in this moment, I realized I was not lucky. God put me here. I have purpose. I have a unique purpose.

And God put me here for a very specific reason. reason. Lightning bolt. Like this, in that moment I went, I'm going to completely change the way I live. Yeah. I'm going to completely change the way I live. Everything's going to change. I broke up with the girl. I was dating an actress at the time and I invited her to go on the journey with me and she didn't want to and so all good. But it completely and radically changed my life, bro. In that moment, I knew I have responsibility for my actions. I need to change the way that I'm living. I need to change certain behaviors.

I didn't understand like the whole, you know, the girls, the partying, the this, the that. I was like, that's no self-control is a virtue. I need to be able to control myself lust, you know? And wow, that's a vice. That's a sin. Like, okay, whoa. And then my next big question is, well, where is God?

Because I knew that morality. I knew that there was something, is it the god of the Hindus, the Muslims, the Jews, the Christians? And very quickly, the doctrine of the fall and a savior was just so beautiful. I mean, you have that tattoo on your leg. It's like, that is our redemption. That is our, that is the redemption of the fall, the brokenness of humankind. So the fall and Christ saving us and how all of the Old Testament prefigermints come together perfectly in Christ.

Like that, that sold me on, on Christianity. Just how unbelievable that he could fulfill all these Old Testament prophecies. I mean, it's like insane. The odds are unbelievable. Yeah. Like, it's like impossible. Like, it's, it's, I like, you know, it's, I love, it just blows me away how your train of thought was,

if God is real, my life's going to change. because the amount of people that we meet, so like we do, we've done some college campus dialogues and debates before on faith, and we're doing five more in the fall. Good for you. And four of them are at SEC schools, so in the Bible Belt.

And we've been to some Bible Belt schools before, and the amount of people, even outside of the debates that, like, we'll run into that, like, know about Jesus, that have grown up around it. And they're just like, well, my life doesn't, need to change because I've followed Jesus or people don't have a conviction to change.

Yeah. It just blows my mind because the same way you did. Like when you genuinely meet Jesus, you can't not change. It's literally impossible to not change. I mean, he radically gives you a real identity, like a real identity. And it's all in the Bible. It's like we are compelled to live virtuously and to live. of holy lives. It's like all across the whole thing. But it just, to me, I live such a

opposite life where I exhausted it. I saw the fruits of the world and it left me wanting. And in the second I realized it was real, I was just like, boom, it was like a lightning bolt of grace. And I was like, yes, this is what I want. I'm going all in, man. I'm going all in. But the question was, where is God? Where does God live? And I studied different denominations and I looked into different beliefs and how it all works and and and um ultimately I'm Catholic but uh that was a big thing for me is like where is God where does he live how does this work and in some something yeah it's a it's a longer story but um but yeah it uh it by the grace of god is in the reason talk about inspiring change one of the reasons i i things that i liked about

is this uh the catholic church is there's this meritorious redemptive view of of suffering that the process of salvation is a daily thing. It's a daily choice. And there's merit in that. Merit is like some reward gained. It's like you do good. There can be grace that's had from that good thing. And it made the suffering,

the suffering has value. There's a value to it. There's a value. That's how you can earn. That's how, I'm be careful with my words here, because people are going to slice me in the comments, but that's how you can attain sanctification.

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There's also works. There's things that we must do. And, like, one decision thing was a struggle for me because I've never just made one decision. Like, yes, absolutely. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Like, absolutely. But that's the entrance. Like, you know, faith comes through hearing, but then there's a lot to do. There's a lot that we should do. So that was something that I really, that I struggle with. Maybe you can help me understand it better. But that was something that I, that was a struggle for me. Hey, quick break. Let me tell you about today's sponsor, Liberty University. And I want to be completely upfront about something. This is not just a sponsorship for me. I actually just graduated from Liberty this year. So what I'm talking about this, I'm talking about something I

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I mean, well, I mean, who knew philosophy night on a movie? Crazy, bro! That's kind of crazy, you know? I mean, like, the way that I have balanced the salvation works things. I'm not the once saved, always saved. guy that's like, oh, now you've prayed the prayer. Like, you're good. Because I, I find the people that ask me, like, oh, is one saved always saved true? And they, like, want it to be true. They're the type of person that's making sure that the prayer that they prayed when they were 12 years

old, like, gets them in the cut. You know what I mean? And I'm like, okay, like, I, I just have a problem with that. Whereas, like, I'm like, my, I've always been like, what makes someone want to repent or, like, get baptized or, you know, stop having sex outside of marriage or, like, put the bottle down, all stems from, oh, I'm surrendered to Jesus. Like, I'm trusting that his way is better. So I've just always viewed the works as, you know, my works prove whether my faith is sincere or insincere. But I, I've never, I've never, banked my works on, like, getting me across the finish line, which I don't, I don't know, maybe that's what you view, but I just always, the way I view my life is like, I love that, I love them in.

of like there's stuff to do. Yeah. Because I, this has just been like my heart lately. I want to have this crown to lay at his feet that has jewels on it and intentional. Like I want everything that I do to be like when I get there to like take this crown off and lay it at his feet and be like, yeah, this is yours, man. Blood, sweat and hard days and everything in between. I love that.

And which the human nature can be a hang up on sometimes, you know. But I mean, that's the reality of it. I love that. That's a beautiful image. I'm just so curious, like, what your thought, if you, if that philosophy night never happened, if the coming to faith day never happened, where do you think you would be right now? I mean, probably divorced. Probably, probably divorced.

I think I would have tried to work it out with the girl. and it wouldn't have ended well. Yeah, dude, I don't know, bro. I don't know, man. I don't think I was like suicidal or anything, but like that whole anxiety, depression thing was pretty rough. And I don't, if I wouldn't have found Christ,

like, I don't think it would have gone away. I think it would have been way worse. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know. I probably would have been, I kept acting, but I think eventually I would have, like when you're, I don't know,

Like, Christ gives you a purpose and a drive and a mission. And that's what I, the acting thing was like, all more for me. And I think it would have petered out on that. I think it would have petered out. I think it would have petered out. I think it would have said, this just isn't worth it. And I would maybe would have tried some other stuff. But suddenly, you know, Christ enters the picture.

And I'm now, now I'm like, wow, I can do so many good things that can help make the world a better place through content. What's up with Kevin James driving you to a monastery? What's up with that? Isn't he the best guy? I mean, who doesn't like Mallcop? So he was a neighbor. So he lived near me in Encino. Okay.

And we'd just be, he's just been a great influence on me. We've done four movies together. He's been just a wonderful man to me. I mean, he seems incredible. He's an amazing guy. He's amazing. He should do your show.

Oh, that would be so fun. You guys have a blast. He'd be so close. He's hilarious. He's so funny. He's a wonderful, devout man. But, you know, we're just hanging out and he was like, hey, you know, we should get your confession going.

And I was like, yeah, yeah. Mall cops trying to get the confession out of you right now. I was wanting to go back to confession. And I was wanting to get everything off my soul. And it's not like, you know, we confess to Jesus through a mediator, the priest. And so I wanted to get that off my soul. I really did. It's like John 2022 where it talks about

whose sins you forgive or forgiven, whose sins you retain or retained. And that's kind of our belief on confession. And I wanted to... Well, I think there is something powerful in like confessing to a physical person. Like confess your sins to one another and you'll be healed.

Yes. Like even when I, like, because we're human, like if, even if I'm tempted, even if Bryce hasn't done a mistake and I like confess this temptation, it just makes Satan lose this grip over me in this area. And I... I admire the sacrament of confession in the Catholic Church deeply.

But I didn't mean to cut you off. No, no, it's, dude, it's, it is like the most freeing thing. Like it is the most freeing thing. And so he's like, hey, let's go do it. And there's a beautiful monastery, which we should go. You should see it, bro. It's like, it's in Silverado. It's called St. Michael's Abbey.

And they built this gorgeous monastery and 60 priests live there full time. All they do is pray. They just pray. and it's like all day long they're they're singing they're chanting prayers in this gorgeous old but it's new but it looks old monastery the voice is echoing out you're in this canyon you're all alone in this canyon in this beautiful church with all these priests who are like real men they're not father twinkle toes i was talking about earlier like they're they're they're real men they'll get out and i don't know play basketball with you have a conversation talk about the

Bible, have a glass of wine, like they're, they're real guys. And, and so I go there. I wrote, I wrote all the sins I could possibly think of down. And I did a real examination of my conscience. And I thought of everything. And I went there, bro, and just like, for two hours, just got it all off my chest. It was so sad therapeutic. And, and to hear the words of absolution, there's these, these, these beautiful words, the priest prays over you when you confess, you know, but to hear the words, the ministry of the church I absolve you of your sins in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost

to hear those words said the absolution like freeing oh I've so literally we think we're literally freed like Catholics like when you confess it you have gone straight to Christ you are literally forgiven it's off of his docket

it'll never get brought up ever again it is gone it is struck like it's so so strong in fact that even demons can't use that to pick at you because it is gone. It has been forgiven. The blood of Christ has washed over you. It has been forgiven.

And I came out of that confession, man. I was like, and I'm free. Like, it was awesome, bro. It was awesome. And this beautiful place. And that KJ drove me up. And like, it was freaking awesome. He's still a good friend.

And just what a wonderful man. Such a wonderful man. So what has being openly Christian in Hollywood cost you? I mean, at first, dude, it was rough. It was rough. Lost my agents. I, you know, I walked away from a lot. I walked away from a lot.

I turned down a lot of rules. I was like, I'm not, I'm just not going to do something that I think will disrespect my belief now. We'll disrespect our Lord. I'm just not going to do it. I'm not going to go near it. And it cost me a lot. It costs a lot.

I lost a lot of money, friends. a girlfriend at the time. I kind of was stripped of everyone, everyone that I, that I would call a friend. I literally, I have one guy that kind of stuck around. But I lost everyone.

But I made new friends. I found new friends. I found guys that respected, guys I loved that were building me up in Christ. You know, I think that friendship is like an elevator. It brings you up or it brings you down. So, like, I made new friends. And I made friends that elevated me

and that challenged me. They gave me great books to read and help form me in my faith and led to meeting my wife, my best friend now. And, you know, we got our fourth kid on the way. So cool. Yeah, we got some others in heaven. But yeah, it's been, it's been a great journey, bro. And some of those people who left have now come back into the picture. They've gotten older. They've changed the way that they think. And I get text from people like, hey, just want you to know, I went to church this Sunday. And I was like, oh, no way. I didn't. I never thought this person would, that would happen. Yeah. Yeah, it's a marathon. It's not a race. That typically seems to be the case.

Like, I went to, think about this, I went to private Christian school and became a Christian my junior year. And by my senior year, I was the most unpopular guy. No way. In the high school. Yeah. Because like it's, you kind of grow a little, I don't know, cold or used to hearing about Jesus. Like, oh yeah, Jesus is on the Bible quiz this week or whatever. And, you know, people want to live for themselves in the bubble of routine, Monday through Friday, practice every school. eat a meal Friday night football, Saturday, do whatever, procrastinate school till Sunday night, that kind of thing. But yeah, like, I can, that just reminds me of so many people that gave me a hard time

that have texted me back over the years. Or I remember this one guy had really gave me a hard time my senior year and then donated to our ministry. No way. Like a couple years later. And it was just, I was blown away, you know. You just never know the mark you have on people. Yeah, especially if it's something painful at the time or like you stood on your ground or whatever, that could make a huge debt.

Like I wish someone did that to me when I was, I wish a good Christian man stood me up and like challenged me. I never had that. Maybe someone's listening right now. And the only purpose of it is because you have someone you know or that's in your life, maybe a young man, they need to be challenged. Like they, they, I wish, I wish a man would have came up to me and like press me, not uncharitably or not unlovingly, but like press me. Yeah. And like stood me up. And I never had that, you know.

And so risk, if it risks a confrontation, okay, so be it. But that'll stick with someone. That'll stick with someone. I had a guy in my life baseball player, actually, named Chile Davis, and played for the Yankees and the Angels and World Series winner, really talented athlete. When I was a kid, he did talk to me about Christ a couple times. And I remember that I was, he was the only person, like that actually talked to me genuinely about Christ.

He's, I don't know what denomination he is, but he's a real strong believer. And he, I remembered his words. Yeah, I remembered his words. And as I changed later in life when I had my conversion, I reached out to him because I said, your words actually stuck with me. The things you said about Christ stuck with me. Wow. But no one else really, no one else really preached to me. Did you ever have like an agent look at you in the face and was like, yeah, you're not getting this role because you're a Christian?

Or I don't know if that's the right word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like a, I don't know, whoever does the casting or whatever? Yeah. Not like that. Not like I know you're Christian. You're not getting it. But I've had situations with roles where they really wanted me for something. And I said it was against my beliefs. And people were like, what the heck? Like anyone would want this thing. We need to find out a way to make that happen. And then I stopped auditioning. Not too long after that. My brother's got the best story. My brother, he, and I'll put you it real quick. I'll give the two-second version, but my brother Lorenzo is an actor as well, and he got this role in a show called The Offer to play Al Pacino. And he has always told his wife and his kids, like, hey, you know, he and our business partners, and he always said, you know, my brother and I were producing contents,

what we're going to do is our family business. And we won't put nudity in anything that we do. We believe that you can't fake nudity, that if a woman is nude, she's nude, and that's exposing your dignity. And we want to be good to women. And we're not. going to do that. Well, as an actor, he gets this role in the offer with Al Pacino. It's a dream role. We're Italian, like to play Al Pacino in the offer. It's a very expensive show. And he gets the second script, and he's like, about to go out there and do it. And there was like full-blown sex and nudity in this. And I think they since they took it out because I heard it's not in the show. And I've heard the show's amazing, by the way, from other people. But on his conscious was,

I'm going to do this show. And it's got that in it. And I told my kids, I never do that. And I'm cunning this weird. I don't want to be a hypocrite. And so he turned it down. He walked away from it. And people called him and said, you're never going to audition again. You're never going to work again in this town. This is a dream role. This is what everyone wishes they could do. And so he lost it. A huge, lost a bunch of money because of it. But Mel Gibson calls him a couple years later and gives him a role in. in the resurrection. He's playing one of the apostles in the resurrection. So that's a little god wink moment where it's like, you know what? If you sacrifice for God, if you go all in, he will, he'll, he won't forget. He won't forget. That's so cool. Yeah, I always respect that a ton. I've heard

so many stories from different people that have faith and, uh, on like the things that it costs them. And I've heard this lingo so much. I just got to ask selling your soul in Hollywood. Is that a real thing? Great news. The federal EV rebate is back. Eligible customers get up to $5,000 with the federal EVAP rebate on select 2027-volt and 2026 Equinox EV models. Visit your local Chevrolet dealer today for more details. New from Nespresso. Blend wellness into your coffee routine with a coffee plus range infused with functional benefits. Choose the coffee you love with added B vitamins, like coffee plus B12 to help support immune function. And coffee plus B2. to keep your day moving. Or go with the flow and choose ginseng delight. Our new double espresso with ginseng extract.

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You know, Hollywood's a tough thing, man. It's like you're so driven by what other people think that it's so easy to lose yourself. It's so easy to sell your soul. Like you come here and you give up all, a lot of young people when they come here, they give up all their beliefs and they just go, I'm going all in. I'll do whatever it takes. And so symbolically, that's kind of like selling your soul. It's kind of like saying I'm giving up on all my morals.

and everything that I believe in just to make it in this town. And there's so much desperation in the air, it's so hard to make it in this business and even make a living that you have to give up a lot. You've got to give up a lot. There's a lot of desperation in the air. Yeah, that's how I've always viewed it. I've never, like, imagined some, like, literal blood contract

with the devil or anything. But I think, you know, kind of what you described were as if your brother was like, yeah, I'm giving up on my morals and I'm going to take that role because, like, I don't give a rip and it's a dream. I'd be like, okay, maybe that is selling. your soul because you're, you know, I call it like, I mean selling out, you know, you just sell out a little bit. But I was like, I think that stuff is so fascinating to me whenever,

because I've heard some interesting stories, even from people that like aren't in the, whatever you want to call it, sell your soul, Illuminati, whatever you call it, that I'm just like, that's insane. Yeah. Insane stuff. Because we used to run a Bible study years ago. That was just for like people, people that did social media or music or whatever and it was like no phones. You didn't have to be a Christian. You could ask whatever you wanted. And we, we, we got a lot of people that used to do social media and then had like shifted over to like only fans and stuff like that. And they would tell us some like crazy stories of just like Illuminati and stuff like that. And I would be like, what the heck? And I'm from small town, Georgia where my

grandma's like don't move to L.A. It's going to fall in the ocean. And I'm like, that's the scariest thing I heard about L.A. And I move here and I'm like, holy crap, that sounds, what you just said doesn't sound made up, but I've never heard anything like that. So I'm just like, I've, I've heard stuff too, bro. I think that stuff goes on. So I have this rule where it's like a total shift of topic. I have this rule where I only take relationship advice from married people. Oh, cool. And you have history of, well, I got to preface this. I've just always had an issue of couples that have been dating for 30 days and then they start like a relationship account on social media. And they're trying to tell me like how to be like a good, you know, boyfriend,

girlfriend, husband, and wife. And I'm like, you have never been through anything hard. I can't trust anything that you're saying right now. So I've just always taken relationship advice in general from married people. That's cool. You've been. married over 10 years. You have fourth kid on the way and you've mentioned 10. Yeah, we have some miscarriages and my wife pregnancy loss. Yeah. Yeah, 10 of them. What is the best marriage advice that you could give me? I mean, I'm sure stuff you already know, but I'll say a few different things. Like, and this is all stuff I'm working on, by the way. This is not like I have some perfect marriage, but this is all stuff I work on.

The family that prays together stays together. So at the root of the marriage, what is your prayer life? What is your prayer life together as a couple? What is your role as a man? I think about that, like principally, like what is my role as the man in the relationship? Am I covering my wife in prayer? Am I protecting prayer? Because you'll hear a lot of people say provide and protect, right? Yeah. But spiritually, like most important, spiritually, are you covering her in prayer? Are you covering your family in prayer? You know, God made Adam and Eve different. There are different roles and responsibilities that we have. And as the husband, we have to be protecting our family spiritually. We have to be praying for them spiritually. So like taking your role serious from a prayer perspective

with your wife, like that's really important. And some of it's, you know, you've probably heard some of that before. But it's just like, well, what is that actually? Like how am I actually doing that? What kind of prayers am I saying? What am I doing to contribute to my family's protection in my family's safety. You know, for me, there's certain prayers, you know, that we do as Catholics. There's a St. Michael prayer, which is a great prayer. You heard that? No, I've never heard the St. Michael.

It's St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, O prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast and hell Satan, and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. It's pretty gangster prayer. It's gangster. It's gangster. It is a bad prayer. There's so many beautiful prayers like that that we have and we invoke. So like I say certain prayers that specifically help ask for God's protection. There's like practical things. Like we do a Sunday talk. Like I keep a little book and we talk about how our week went. It can be random stuff. But we're trying to drive it towards God ultimately. But it's like how is your stress levels this week? What are you focusing on this week?

how was your prayer life this week? Okay, you slipped off on a few days. Why is that? You know, okay, too much this or too much that. And I just keep track of it. And my wife and I talk about it. Literally once a week. It's like, that is a very important thing for our marriage.

It's like the once a week talk one hour, once a week. I don't know if you, do you drink wine or anything? No, I actually don't. Okay, no stress. You don't have to have wine. You can have a glass of water. But get your favorite beverage, tea or whatever, and just sit down and like, make a thing out of it, make a little date.

And just talk about your week. and you talk about your stuff to her, get her advice for you as your wife. She knows you better than anyone. And then you talk to her, and it's like a great way to check in because it's so easy in marriage. Once you guys start having kids, it gets even harder because there's so much that pulls you away from your marriage.

So much. Does your wife work? Yeah, but she works remote. Okay, that's good. So you're able to spend the time together. Work and it takes you away from stuff, right? I mean, works tearing you. Once you start having kids,

that's going to pull you apart. And like, if you're not fighting for your marriage, if you're not fighting to protect your marriage, then it will split you. And if that's why the once we talk is so important, like get there, get it all off your chest, and keep track of your prayer life. Like, how did we do this week? Was I praying every day? Okay, how much was I praying?

And you start to, this thing, you'll start to notice trends. And even if you do it for a long enough period of time, you'll recognize seasonal changes. And that stuff's really good to be aware of, to protect one another. And then, you know, like the sacrament of marriage. like you get special grace just from the sacrament of marriage. We felt that in our relationship through tragedy, through losing babies and through miscarriages is one that's been most. We felt the sacrament the most.

We've been most appreciative of the sacrament, but it has made us the strongest. Like tragedy will come. That's why, you know, what you say through sickness and health. Because stuff will happen, you know. It happens in every relationship. And it's in those moments where you need the sacrament the most. It's like those moments where my wife and I remember when you're like,

lost our first baby. Afterwards, you know, oh, she's, you know, we just get married and she's pregnant and I fall to my knees. I kiss her belly. I'm so excited for life. I bless the baby in her belly. And, and then that night, David, something's wrong. What's wrong? I'm bleeding everywhere. What? And, oh, I get emotional talking about it. And in those moments is where you need the sacrament the most. And it's like, so don't forget about the sacrament, that grace. Because after that, I remember we said to each other, after that all passed, went to the hospital.

And, yeah, it was a miscarriage. And I remember in that moment, I said to her, like, no matter what, this will be a victory for Christ, no matter what, because we're going to fall more in love and we're going to bleed into each other and lean into each other. And that night, we just held each other all night long. And that those moments have helped strengthen our relationship significantly. So it's like when tragedy comes, pour into each other. Because is it the devil? Is it God? Who's responsible? You're going to get tempted with all these questions, right? But no matter what the victory is, becoming holier as a couple. That is a victory for Christ, no matter what. So it's like when tragedy strikes, don't forget, this is a moment where you can grow holier. You can both grow holier.

Would you say, I mean, in your marriage, like the miscarriages is the hardest thing that you guys have had to walk through? Oh, for sure. And you said you've had 10 miscarriages? Wow. Yeah. I asked my wife this other day, I said, on our anniversary, this past one, I said, what would you go back and tell yourself on your wedding night? And she said, Maria, you're going to have, you're going to have the best life ever and the saddest. And she said, that was it. And I was like, unpack that for me. And she's like, I never would have thought we'd lose all these babies. I never would have thought that we'd lose all this life.

But it is, you know, it has ultimately strengthened our relationship. And I'm not, my wife is full of joy and she's a wonderful woman. But that's tough. That's tough for women to deal with. Tough for me to deal with. But especially tough for her because it's her body.

I mean, gosh, the first baby you said you bless, you bless the baby. I fell on my knees. I grabbed her hips. I kissed her belly immediately. And that night. Is it that night? And did you do that for every single kid?

Yeah. I mean, it's a life. I mean, no matter what, that's a baby. So it's like, yeah, yeah, no doubt. The baby's in a better place. My mind is just like, man, I think, is it there, I think there's a statistic, like, one and four women, like, struggle with miscarriages. No one talks about this.

But, but to think, I've never heard a number like 10. I mean, man, I have. And, dude, we saw doctors. It's not like we're being irresponsible. Like, I've seen doctors all over the U.S. We've flown into this doctor. We've flown into that doctor. We've purposely done, do you know, NFP, natural family planning?

Yeah. It's like you avoid fertility days or whatever. We've had to do all that to try not to get pregnant. And then right when we think we're fine, the doctor's like, all right, go for it. You're good. Another one happens. And it's like, you know, it's tough, man. It's tough.

But we do, you know, we have our fourth child on the way. That one's kind of a miraculous story because she had like six in a row after seeing doctors for the past four years. She had six miscarriages in a row. Yeah, in a row. And a second trimester miscarriage, which means we got to actually bury the baby. Typically, they happen in the first, right?

Yeah, second trimester. She had an ectopic pregnancy, so that's a fallopian tube had to get removed. She's bleeding out. I mean, my wife has been through the ringer, the ringer. And more women than you'd think go through this, a lot more than you'd think go through multiple miscarriages.

But prayer works, bro. Prayer works. I just did the show called Seeking Beauty in Spain. And I randomly get booked on this, Well, I have to preface, too, because you guys are going to think I'm crazy Catholic. Like, Catholics, we don't, we don't, I don't worship saints, okay? We don't, we don't worship saints. We, like, like, because I, I wasn't played.

You venerate the saints, guys, come on. And they're in heaven, saints are in heaven, and they're alive, right? It's like me asking David to pray for me. Yes, come on, guys. You're alive, I'm alive. I ask you to pray for me. You ask me to pray for you. It's fine.

We just ask them to pray for us, right? So don't be thrown off by this story. I'm about to tell you. So this is just what happened to my wife. Like it's miraculous. We go to shoot this show called Seeking Beauty in Spain. And I randomly get the production books on Airbnb next to this monastery that this Carmelite nun named St. Teresa Vavala, who's a beautiful nun with a beautiful story, wonderful woman of God, heart for Christ, who helped do a lot of good things in Spain to say it briefly. And I got put right next to her monastery.

like I'm sharing a wall, like my Airbnb shares a wall with her monastery. And we're hearing church bells and it's beautiful. And I was like, oh, what a nice little moment that I get put next to one of the monasteries that she helped build in this town called Sevilla. I thought that was cool. And I'm interviewing someone for this show the next day. And this husband and wife, this husband has fertility issues. He can't have babies. He had an operation or something from a bike accident.

And he can't have children. And I meet him and his wife. And she said, oh, yeah, I married him anyway because I believed we could have done. or we could, I believe God would provide. And they have, tell me, they're five children, five biological children, and all the children look like the dad. It's 100% legit. And I'm like, what, five children? How does this work?

And they said, St. Teresa Val- and I went, what? And in the town of Sevilla, they have this, like, one of St. Teresa from like 500 years ago, her prayer cloak. And, you know, there's different references in the Bible of items from holy people. Like Paul, like Paul. And stuff like that. Exactly. Doing miraculous. things, right? And so they have her cloak. And in this town for 500 years, anyone who's

having fertility issues, praise to Christ through the intercession of St. Teresa Vavala, and they put this cloak on. And there's like tons of babies in this town now, right? And so they tell me, they put on this fertility cloak on the dude and her, and they have five kids. And I was like, where is this cloak? Bring me the cloak. And so I go to the address, and it happens to be the place right next door to where I'm staying. It's like that very place. And I got hit with the double whammy. So I find the mother superior, the nun. She gives me the cloak.

I put it on my wife. I can send you a, I'll send you a picture of it if you want to. It's a nice little image. And I put it on my wife, and we pray, and we had a priest there praying over us. And we just, I just, we prayed that through the intercession of St. Tris of Avila, like she would pray for us to get God's grace to have a baby. And the very next morning, I go to this town called Avila. And the very first monastery that St.

Trisa Vavala ever founded. And no one had been in there in like 500 years. Like they let Pope St. John Paul the 2nd go in. And then that was it. And then like me. And they let us go in for the show. And the Mother Superior, here's my story and the miscarriages and everything. And there was this little bell. And this is the bell that Teresa rang when she opened up her first monastery. So she said, John Paul the second, one of the former popes rang this. Teresa rang it when she first opened this 500 years ago, and she's like, I want you to ring it. And she's like, it's just don't, the ringing is the thing, but you need to have faith. She goes, you need to have faith.

She said, ring it and pray. And you need to have faith and trust that Teresa cares about your soul and cares about what's, what's best for you up in heaven right now. And ask her what you need. And she'll speak to our Lord. She's really close to him. She'll speak to our Lord. And I was skeptical.

And I was like, oh, you don't understand what I've been through. Da, da, da, da. And then I, I was like, I need to have faith. I looked in her eyes. She had so much faith that I borrowed her faith. And she rubbed off on me and I ring this thing and I'm praying, please, Jesus, through intercession of Trisa Bavala, please give us a baby. And I ring the thing.

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from now from now what are you doing out here this is my last trip bro I'm going home tomorrow going home tomorrow Like, that would be, what in the world? That's amazing. Going home, first thing tomorrow, bro. Okay, okay, praise God.

Dude, that's awesome. Isn't that amazing? That's a wild story. We didn't change anything. Like, nothing changed. We were seeing doctors doing everything, six miscarriages in a row. And then these two stories that I tell you. And now we have the baby.

And the baby will be here in 10 days. That's so amazing. And so, like, I got to ask, because I know, I know you've written this children's book. Yes. You have four, fourth kid on the way, 10 in heaven, and then with this big heart that you just have for child actors as well, actors and actresses. Can you tell me a little bit about the importance of this book and why you wrote it? Yes. So this is my son and my son James, who's five, very inquisitive kid.

I can't worry for you out of kids because they're just, they're going to, they're going to make you, do you really, they're going to get you with such simple little questions that it's going to make you go, oh, yeah. Yeah, that's really good. Yeah, how to explain this concept or how to explain God? Like, it's a hard to do for your kids. You've got to, like, really have a way of putting things simply. But my five-year-old, you know, he goes to church with us every Sunday, and he goes three times a week to church with my wife, and he's learning about God. And he just comes up to me with all these questions, and it's always, is God bigger.

And then he says stuff, like, Papa, is God bigger than New York City. And I'm like, oh, buddy, it's a cute question. Yes, he is. And here's why. Here's how big God is. Well, Papa. Is God bigger than a Megadon? Even a Megalodon, yeah, buddy.

Even bigger than a Megalodon. And here's why. Well, is God big a than a five-weaving dragon? And he just asked all these questions. And I'd write all these down. And then eventually my wife and I were like, hey, let's put this in a book. Like, this is a book? And we rhyme a response.

So, like, is God bigger than the dark? Yeah. Right? Yes, his light can never die. It breaks the night and fills the sky. When shadows fall and fears appear, he stays beside you to keep you near. And then we have a Bible verse. So everyone has a Bible verse.

And I purposely don't spell it out. Because at the end of the book, I tell the reader, turn this into a Bible study with your kid, pick his favorite image, open up your Bible. And ultimately, I want this to be a way people can get to know scripture better. Because it's an interactive way. Like, if this is your favorite kid's image with the campfire and whatnot, go to John 812 and like dive into the scripture. And it'll correlate to this image.

And it's a way to get to know your Bible better. And so for me, I'm like, it teaches you a little something about the Omni Postal of God, his omnipresence, and it turns into a little Bible study, you know? Well, I love the art on the front. It actually looks like a book that I would grab back in, like, primary school, kindergarten. Yes, that was the point. Now, like, you know, stuff nowadays, just the art looks weird. It's all AI and stuff like that. So I, I like the art already. Thank you, bro. We wanted it to be, like, a classic. Like, my wife loves kids. My wife literally buys vintage kids books. Like, she loves old kids books. Just for the way it looks. The way it looks.

The way it looks, the way it smells the art. She doesn't like the, too modern or abstract-y or AI looking like you're saying. Like, she loves stuff that feels real. So for us, we're like, oh, we want like a Norman Rockwell kind of look and feel. So, like, you know, there's this one with the dinosaur that's pretty cute. So, like, we wanted something that felt kind of classic and almost like Amblin-y. So we brought in some different styles with this thing to make it. Oh, this one is my son's favorite, the monster truck.

Is God, big it in a monster twuck? And yeah, so we tried to make it have a timeless feel. Oh, I love that. Thank you, bro. Yeah, we need to raise our children up. Lord willing, when I have a bunch of babies one day. You're going to love it, bro. Raise them.

You're going to love it. And we're pumped. We're excited and just, yeah. Is it whenever God wants? Are you guys planted it out? Yeah, we've been having a bunch of conversations about it. So we're just pumped and excited and really looking forward to it. Tell what, bro, you're never ready.

I don't think I was even ready. to get married. I dated Maddie for two years proposed and I'm literally telling myself in my head like I got a grip on dating Maddie. Like I know what it means to serve her, love her. And like three weeks in, I'm like, I am so selfish. Like it is unreal. Like I got to do a big heart check right now. What's a beautiful part about marriage is you're marrying your sanctifier? Like she's going to sanctify you. You're going to say and the kids sanctify the living daylights out of you. Well, granted, I had never, I've never been married before, you know, so I also have to now consider somebody else's needs physical and emotional and spiritual needs above mind. So yeah, maybe that

plays a little bit into the selfish aspect for sure and getting used to it. And we've, we've only been married eight months. That's awesome. So, so like nothing too crazy, but I mean, just, and I will say, like, you know, I get, I think one of the reasons why I, I typically wouldn't take the advice from people that weren't married is because they are never, they never really go through hard things together. Yeah. In a few months after Maddie and I started dating, like, I think within two months of us stating, she lost a relative. Ooh. And we immediately jumped into, like, going through something hard together.

And that, like, expedited my journey into her heart a little bit going, like, oh, man, like, we just, I mean, you just lost a relative that, like, I've met and that I love. Yeah. And that's hard. You know, and so, like, yeah, I just admire and respect you and your wife. a ton of time. And even everything that you've been through, like, writing a book for kids and the way, I just, I admire it. This has been a great outlet for her and I, too, like, especially all the miscarriage stuff and everything. This has been a really fun outlet. I'm very thankful to

my Ascension Press folks, because they let my wife and I really play and really, um, it's been a great outlet for us. Like our Sunday talk is like working on the book and then having a glass of wine. And, uh, yeah, it's been, it's been good, bro. It's been good. I'll pray for you and your wife. I pray that God gives you babies when it makes sense. And they're, it's a gift, man. Exactly what you're saying about pouring into each other. Like, the kids expedite that like crazy. It's like, the time, there's never good time for it.

But it does. It opens your hearts into each other even deeper. Good, bad and the ugly, but you get in there. Dude, I am so grateful you came on. Seriously, thank you. I would love, if you would, just to pray for everyone watching and listening. Like say it now? Yeah.

Would you be down? Oh, sweet. Yeah, never done this before. It's my first public prayer. We close. Are you serious? Yeah. Dude, we always close every time typically with either passing off to the guests.

If we have like a Christian guest on, I always like pass it off. And then if not, if we have a non-Christian on, then I'll pray. But I would love for you to pray for everyone watching and listen. If that's true. I'm happy to.

Amazing. Okay. Even the Father's Son, the Holy Ghost. Amen. Heavenly Father, we thank you for bringing us together today. We pray that we pray that anything that was said of you may find its way to the person who needed to hear it

out there. We pray that anything that was not of you may just fade away, fade away from memory. I pray that you use Bryce and I to give you glory, to give you honor. Please help us use our careers, our talents, solely for your glory, solely for your honor. and may we become saints along the way and in the process. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen.