The Bryce Crawford Podcast - "From Jail To Jesus" Lil Tony Interview (EP 134)

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

In this episode, Bryce interviews Lil Tony. He is an Atlanta Rapper who recently has come to faith in Jesus Christ.

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is going to be so specific to the city and break chains. So if you live in Southern California, San Diego, or you just want to come, experience the presence of the Lord and have fun of the live podcast store. Go to Jesus in the street.org slash tour. come out to San Diego. We got some seats left. Love you guys. Enjoy the episode. What's going on, guys? Welcome to another episode of the Bryce Crawford podcast. I'm Bryce and today have an incredible special guest with us today in the house. We got Tony. Hey, man. Appreciate you for having me. How you doing, bro? Man,

thanks for making time for us. Man, I'm blessed. I'm happy to be here, man. Dude, I'm so excited to hear your story. You know, there's definitely a lot of people that have seen your story. There's also a lot of people that don't know much about you. And so I really believe in just a world that's deceived by sin, your story has a lot of power to it. Yeah. And, man, we'd just love to share, but just so, like, people kind of get a backstory about you,

like, where are you from? Where'd you grow up? What was that like? I'm born in the bluff, raised in South West Atlanta. I was born in the bluff, and then I moved to Riverdale Road, and I moved to East Point with my little sister. And I moved in with my grandma,

and I was raised pretty much. up there in Cascade. Yeah. And then I bought my own townhouse when I was 17 on Fair and Road, which is still in Southwest Atlanta. Yeah. After high school, I pretty much raised in Southwest Atlanta. What was your family dynamic?

Like, I'm pretty close with my grandma and my pops and like my little sister. Yeah. And my little brothers and my, like, that's part of my family. Like just my brothers, my sisters, my grandma and my pops and my main right-hand family, that stuff. And would you say that like growing up you had a lot of like, pretty loving family environment for the most part yeah yeah yeah my family i always try to make it work for me yeah that's great so for people that don't know maybe who you are um you're rapper

how long have you been rapping just in general just in general i've been rapper for five years man and what made you get into rapping i just got kicked out of school for selling draws my daddy was trying to tell me to get out of street and stop doing it what I was doing in the street and put it on the beat because I was either going to die or get locked up for life but you know at the time I wasn't really listening to that because we are we be kids we be arrogant so I wasn't listening but uh quarantine hit and I was just bored so I started trying to rap and I was actually slick good at it so I just kept going yeah and just said so in quarantine I was like when you were just like, hey, I'm going to start rapping.

And how old were you? You started rapping? Oh, 15. 15. Yeah. How old are you now? I'm 20. No way.

Let's go. Okay. So 15, you start rapping in quarantine, kind of bored. You know, I know you mentioned before we started that, like, real sincere faith in Jesus has been a pretty recent thing probably the last few months. Yes, sir. Man, kind of invite us into, like, leading up to that. Like, what, when you were 15, you started rapping, you said that you got kicked out of school

for selling drugs. I mean, like, how do you? How did that start and then how did that kind of affect your life leading up to? I just kept getting deeper and deeper in the street at first. It started off with, all right, first of all, I had broke my, I used to hoop on my first time dunking, I had broke my wrist. That's when I still were trying to hoop a little bit. I had tried out for the school team, but the coach wanted me to come practice while my wrist

broke. And I was like, I'm not going to hoop when my wrist broke. I'm not feeling to wake up really. I ain't even feeling, you feel what I'm saying? Yeah. So I just, I quit hooping basically. After I brought my wrist, I quit hooping. Yeah.

So after I quit hooping, I start serving. I started serving in, like, the hallway, you know, in cafeteria anywhere, really, whatever niggins. I serve them. So after that, that's what got me, like, really started getting deep in the street. Because then I started smoking. After I started smoking, I had to apply my habit. I started robbing.

So after I started robbing, well, let me, let me refer in that. I wasn't robbing just to get hired out robbing because I also wanted to make money for myself because I ain't like being in my daddy pocket. Yeah. Yeah, you kind of wanted to be independent. Yeah, I wanted to be independent. So I started robbing and then my daddy used to catch me sneaking out and coming home after I just did something crazy.

It went from that to, okay, I got kids out of school. Then I come back. I tried to come back in 10th grade. I got kicked out again for like a Nerf gun fight and something like that. So after that, my family was still like they started getting on the edge with me. It was my last straw when I got my baby mother pregnant. I was in twelfth grade. After that, she had called my grandma and she called the Sprite.

And I told her, I was like, I can't have no baby right now because my folk going to kick me out the Sprite and my mom already in a whole lot of trouble, stuff like that. And then, so she got my grandma number and called her. and told her she was pregnant, so I can get kicked out of spott. And then, that when I got a kid out of spiked, I ain't had no where to go. So I went up to Cadley, and I started serving with my big brother. He gave me some little weed. When you say, like, for people that don't know, like, when you say serving, you're, like, selling.

That's what you mean. You're outside. And you said you came out to Cali? Yeah, so I started selling weed. Yeah. And I was out here. I was in Sacramento. I started selling weed in Sacramento.

So I can run up some money and go back down and get me a place to stay. Yeah. So I was selling weed in Sacramento. When you were like 16? Yeah. Dude. Oh my gosh. So after that, on my 17th birthday, I went back down to Atlanta.

I had enough money on my account to go buy me a little townhouse. So I went about me a little townhouse. And after that, I started. I dropped like my first project they started doing something. So this is my second project though. I dropped my second project and it started blowing up. Like actually blowing up. I'm like, damn.

After that, I'll tell you about like a month later, I got a month or two later, I got a sign. It really up for them. Yeah. And so what I'm kind of hearing is like, man, started 15. you are sorry before you broke your wrist you were bored got into drugs you were smoking weed then you started selling and then you got your baby mama pregnant and then you ended up getting kicked out of the house because she called your grandma and was like hey this went

down you went to California we're selling out there then you bought a house here in Atlanta after you were selling there and now you're rapping your rap songs and are taking off. What kind of stuff were you rapping about at this time? Murder. Everything I was living. Where I'm from, it ain't peaches and cream, so I was just really rapping about what I was seeing and the life that I lived growing up and everything that I've been through and everything that, I guess you could say, yeah, everything I was seeing. I just kept rapping about everything I was seeing. So, you know, I feel like, you know, a lot of people are appreciate rap music with that kind of vibe, like the drugs, the sex, the murder.

But would you say that like 99% of people that rap, just in general, they're not rapping to like sell a song, they're rapping about stuff that they witnessed grew up? Would you say that the rap game's like pretty honest? Because like for you, you're rapping about stuff that's personal to you, right? I say, oh, it's a 50-50. I say it depends on who you're talking about because a lot of it do be. cap. A lot of these folks do you just be capping and doing this for an image.

Like, I say 90% of them doing it for an image. Only 10% of them really rapping about their life or what they went, what they've been through in real testimonies. And the ones who do rap about real life, they music be better and be more relatable. Yeah.

I say 10% rap about real life, 90% be capped. Gotcha, gotcha. But for your instance, you were rapping about, you were just sharing your story. Things you witness, things you were doing, you know, life. And how I was taught. I just think in general, you know, we're not glorifying that part of your life,

but I respect that. I respect your honesty. Because I think a lot of people just want honesty in general. And I think that's exactly what you're saying. You're saying, well, you know, the guys that rap about their actual life, people enjoy it. But that, it kind of makes sense because people want the real stuff, just in general. People want honesty. People want transparency.

So I respect that about you. And I can tell that you're just honest and humble and transparent about everything with your life. Oh, cool. And so you're 17. You buy this townhouse in Atlanta. Yes, sir. When you're 17 years old. Yes, sir.

Keep inviting us into that. You buy this townhouse. Then what's going on? Does your life get better or worse now that you have your house? That's a big deal. Yeah, I get signs. So I get my events. I start buying clothes, cars, guns, jury, drugs, spending it on women.

After that, I started getting a little too popular. So I felt like I had to move up out of that townhouse. Like I said, I was on South West Atlanta. If anybody know who watching this video, they know where Fair and Road is. I know where that's at. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was living on Fairham Road.

So it was a little too ghetto over there. So it was about time for me to go ahead and just move out of the way called getting too famous. So after that, I went about another apartment on at least another apartment on 26th Street. I kept rapping, just kept rapping, just kept rapping. I was getting deeper and deep in the street, though. I got locked up when I, like, I think two, three months after I moved to 26th Street because me and my brother, we were just playing around, we were just shooting Nerf guns and stuff like out the car.

Yeah. I got locked up for that. It wasn't even the fact of me getting locked up. After that, I had spent all the money I had saved up on lawyer fee. It cost me and Bro Bonn was $30,000 apiece. Wow. I spent $30,000 on my lawyer, $20 on his. Wow.

So you can do the math right there. That's 60 plus 50. Yeah. So there's a lot of money. That is all my money. That's all I had put up. Wow. So after I remind you, you know, my.

My pride was in the money. So I was, you know, I'm the type of person who always calling somebody broke. You know what I used to always be that type of person. So when I finally ran through all my money, it really humbled me. I'm like, damn, I can't buy no more clothes. I'm rocking the same thing. I feel bunny already. When I got up, see, everything just started going wrong when I was locked up.

I was locked up, spent arm-paked to get out. Then when I got out, they also kicked me out in apartment, because I had shot one of the ladies with a little, Or be gunned. They were like, somebody who... The jail blaster? Yeah. I shot somebody with jail blaster.

And they kept me out. So I'm like... Those things were addicting when they came out. Those things were awesome. That's actually so funny. Bro, they gave me six felonies for that, bro. What? So when you were saying,

you and your brother were driving and shooting Nerf guns out the car, you're being for real. Like, it was like Nerf guns. Yeah, we were just playing. I think I were 18 at the time, so I would just stoop, like, slow. You feel you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I ain't know.

We wasn't doing nothing lucrative. I never was taking financial literacy or reading books and like, I'm waking up every day getting high, so we're like. I can't believe like Nerf guns. You can get in trouble for shooting a Nerf gun. I'm going to first offender right now because of a Nerf gun. You're a first offender because of a Nerf gun. I've never even heard of that before.

And they tried to give me 200 years. What? I've never even heard of that before. They tried to give me 200 years for a Nerf gun. That is crazy. I'm broke. So you got put in jail. How old were you when you got put in jail? I was 18.

And then you got thrown in jail. You got out of jail and you were broke. Because you spent all the money on the lawyer. I spent everything on the lawyer and I got kicked out my Sprite. So I probably had about like 20,000 left. I spent all that on getting another spot. So I go get me another Sprite. Now, I'm really poor.

So at this point of my life, I'm like, at the worst part of my life, like, I felt like, this is my worst part of my life that I felt like. So I'm telling the God, I'm like, I'm just telling them, I'm like, I'm confused. Just show me what it's right. Because at this point, I can't rely on the money no more, so I went to God. You know what I'm going to keep in the book. I just went to God because I couldn't rely on the money. So I'm like, God, just showed me like, like,

what I need to be doing. Just show me what I'm like, what is right. I'm just confused. I'm just so confused. Like, I'm all the way lost. Yeah.

I don't know if I get deep in the street. Do I go rock somebody? Do I wait for God to give me the money? Do I go make a song? I don't know what to do. Yeah, literally. So I'm like, God, they help me. And then later on, I wanted to kill somebody.

I really, really want to kill somebody. And then it's like, God came to me in my head. or said something. You ever heard somebody say they heard a vision or they heard a voice in their head? Yeah. I heard the real voice,

but it was loud, though. And it was like, if you let them live, if you don't go do that, it's not verbatim what he said, basically what it was saying. We're like, let the man live.

I'm going to turn you up more than you ever been, basically, in your career. You're going to be more successful than you've ever been if you're just listening to me. So I was like, all right, I'm going to let him live.

I'm just chill. I'm just chill. I ain't ain't gonna do that. Yeah. And then out of nowhere, like, I get my first, it's my first time getting off my own work. I got a $6,000 check from Hishko Kid just off like music. So that's my first time getting that type of money by myself.

The only other time I got some money like that was for my label. Yeah, like when they paid you up from. Yeah. So this was by myself. I did this, by myself. So after that, that's when I started like locking in more on the street, You know what I'm saying? I mean, not the street.

I start locking in more on the music. Yeah. Dang. Okay, so I kind of want to highlight something that I think you said because I think it's important. So 18, you're broke. And then you said, that humbled you because you're the type of guy that, like, cared about money a lot. And you would even make fun of people that didn't have money. But now you didn't have money and it kind of humbled you.

So you're in this moment where you're kind of humble. And you said that's kind of like, your first awakening of like, okay, God is real? Nah, that wasn't the first one. It was more so, I always knew God was real. I didn't know which God was real. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

That's why I was scrabbling the fence because it's so many different religions and spirituality that everybody is playing off of and using today advantage. I felt like religion or spirituality was basically pointless. Yeah. No, I felt like he was used as a pun or excuse. If you don't mind me asking, it's okay, you don't have to answer this.

But like, when you said you had the unction, like you wanted to kill someone, but you let them live. Yeah. Like, what got you to that point? Like, what got you there? I had a brother. I felt like he was my brother. You know, I turned a couple individuals up. Like, tried my hardest to help a couple of folk.

And they had betrayed me. I gave them careers, put clothes on their back, food on their plate, family around, I mean, I'm not family around, I clothed them, put food on their plate, gave them a career, roof over their head, everything. And when I got out of jail, like, everybody just started moving, OD funny, like, everybody just started moving, extra funny. Yeah. One of my brothers, I felt like he was my brother.

He switched up, because he felt like I left one of my other brothers in jail. jail, but my lawyer told me to give my brother a week and they let him sit for a week because he's going to go back to court next week and they're going to let him out. I called my brother. I asked him if that was okay. I said, if not, I'll still bond you out. He's like, no, that's when I can help you save some pay. Let's do it.

So they were either going to let him out or reduce his bond. So either way, I ain't got to spend $30,000. So for both of you guys, you guys were on the same page. Even the guy that was in jail, you guys were like, yeah, we're doing. Yeah, he's like, yeah, like, he's like twin, like, you smooth twin, like. I was trying to save the 30 racks that his bond costs for my other brine, my other brother bond, Kenny, like brother Kenny were locked up at the same time. Wow.

He had got locked up for a murder. So his bond was 30,000. Yeah. So I was saving that to get him out because he was supposed to go to court in the next month or like in the next couple of weeks and they were going to get him a bond. So I was like, just let me say that for. twin so I can born a twin. Yeah.

And are these guys that you're talking about that are in jail? Are they like guys that you met when you were describing you going deep in the street? Like these are friends that you made and like basically family. I met Kenny in school. When I were going to Westlake, I used to go to school named Westlake. He was my brother like. He the only one I really like got along with in school. You feel I'm saying?

He was really my brother like because we was boxing. And ain't nobody wanted to box for real. Yeah. But nobody wanted boxed kidding and nobody wanted boxed me for real. Oh, y'all like boxed all the time? Yeah, we don't know. We would just use the box for the YouTube videos. Oh, dude, those videos were awesome.

I used to watch those. Yeah, so I used to try to do YouTube. I tried to do YouTube start making me some money instead of like serving. Well, it was kind of like happening at the same time, but I was trying to do YouTube and see if my YouTube would blow up. So I ain't got to sell. Do you feel like that a lot of people that are selling right now on the street? Would you say that they're selling because they want to or they're selling because they have to?

And that if they had another option, they wouldn't sell. Because that's what you're saying right now. You're like, dude, I was trying to get out. And even back when you said you were selling, you said you were just trying to be independent and the opportunity was there. So would you say that's, that's. Yeah, I say, I say, all right, 50% of the people in the, the street, it's like a half and half. Some of them ain't got nowhere to go.

And then some of them just doing it to look cool. But me personally, it was really like, that's all I knew. My dad, he would getting money and he wasn't getting money with no job. You see what I'm saying? So when I grew up and got old enough to understand that I went to make it to lead, I need to start making some money now. So I don't want to be living with my grandma. I went on 18 and 19.

I don't want to be stealing my mom. I don't want to be stealing my grandma. So the only way I knew how to get money was to start serving. Dad ain't never teach me about real estate. He ain't never teach me about nothing besides a job that can get me some pay. And my dad ain't work no job. So I was like, well, I'm following my dad's lead. You see what I'm saying?

Yeah. So I was like, man, the only way I think somebody ever get money, like how I want was serving. That's what I did. And I felt like in ninth grade, I had. had to grow up because like I said I ain't want to be 18 19 still living with my grandma. Right. Before I get out of high school, I'm going to have me some money. Yeah.

So that was my way of doing it. So we're back in this spot where that guy betrayed you and that made you feel like you literally wanted to kill him and then you hear this voice that basically tells you not to do it. Yeah, because see, I don't want to make it look like I were overreacting. The reason I felt like this is because I would talk. death before this owner. Where I'm from, it's dead before this owner, by death before this owner, I'm saying.

But before I switch on you while I die, because you're probably to be my brother. Before I switch up on you, I'm going to ride to the wheel for a lot. Yeah. That's how we're poe to be. That's how I was taught. So if I put you on money or career,

we went shopping countless times. I ain't never asked you for nothing. I'm the one giving you things. I'm the one paying for your food. got a roof over your head, then you want to switch. Because, first of all, he ain't switched because I left my brother in jail. He said that, like, he really had pressure. Like, he had been had undercover pressure.

You see what I'm saying? Yeah. I had been asking him for, like, two months. Like, dude, like, what's on his chest? Because he always were acting funny. But he never, like, said nothing. When I walked down on him, be like, hey, Twy, you're smooth. Like, you got some you want to get off your chest?

He'd be like, no, I'm just tripping about my little. or I'm just tripping about it. I'm just going through a whole lot in life right now. Like, he'll just be capping. So I was blue light, when he pushed up on me, he tried me like, I'm not taking care of the bros. I'm like, and even if I wasn't, like, I don't got to do nothing.

But point being, on top of that, you're not putting in on no type of bond. You're not helping me with nothing. So how are you trying to tell me that I left my brother in jail? You don't even know what going on. Yeah. And we post be bros.

What's you're talking about? Yeah. You're supposed to help me. We're all supposed to be one. Like, it just caught me for a loop because I thought we were cool. Yeah. It's like you did everything for him and then all of a sudden. All of a sudden it just flipped like that.

You know what's crazy is you're just saying like right now, which I think there's just so much truth to this, even in that moment. And keep in mind, we're just leading up to what God's doing. So this is before God's really done something in your heart. There's so much power in just being honest with people and have a conversation. Because I feel like if he would have just talked to you the times that you approached him and were like, dude, do you want to talk about things? If he would just talk to you, that probably would have never happened where he like pressed up on you. Because it's all just built up frustration that like you gave him the opportunity to talk.

And there's so much like he's I'm a big overthinker. Like if I got something on my chest and I'm not able to talk about it, I understand the buildup. Like I understand your brain going to the extremes and oh, well, you know, Tony's not helping our friends and he's just not doing that and he's just getting in his head probably about something that really didn't matter. Exactly.

The problem was they felt like I was the only one having money out of the group and I wasn't helping nobody. But first of all, I was and second of all, if you're not getting no money and you're a grown man, I'm younger than everybody.

Let me remind you, I always grew up around and hung around people who were old to me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I'm D-D bit, bro. But you're supposed to be my bit, bro. So I'm like, it was just weird to me that everybody felt some type of way that I'm the only one having peaked, but ain't nobody working.

I'm the only one putting in working. Yeah. Like, everybody stopped rapping, stop working, doing everything. Because they could, like, leach off of EU. They felt like until they just stopped coming around. Wow. You know what I'm saying? One day they started feeling real.

I peeped the jealousy, like, and they stopped coming to the studio, all that type of stuff. So, you know, I'm still keeping it 100 with them, though. I'm staying genuine. You feel, what I'm saying? But it was like, and it would threw me off. It was like a switch. Like, I think that they was acting funny. He was acting funny.

But after I got locked up, it was just a switch. Like, as soon as I got out, everything just got weird. So you got locked up again? No, no, no. I'm talking about the first time. Yeah, when I got out, like, that's what I'm telling you. Like, it was weird, though. Like, imagine me and you kicking it.

You go away for, I went in locked up for like two days. I get locked up for. like maybe two days i get out i bar right out as soon as i get out here i'm like i'm trying to push up on him like see if he should move i just acting in funny like stop responding start answering the phone i'm like because it was now you needed them to be there for you exactly and no one was there it's man what i keep just hearing it's like there's this like everything that you're saying the way you grew up the friends and this type of story there's like this hustle this like hustle and grind and this like love, not, I'm not saying from you, I'm saying from everybody. It's crazy how the love of

money can distort people or make people think. Because that's, that, that, that, that's really what it sounds like your friends having this love for money and it's kind of throwing people off. I mean, the money's not a bad thing. It's just when people love money more than they love God, it jacks people up. And it, then money's their God and it messes people up. And it, Like I say, I'm going to give you my perspective. Just imagine these your bros right here, man. Yeah. And you're overestending, not just y'all working together.

You're the one working, and they're the one eating. You working, they leech, right? They're not doing nothing. They just sit here. Just imagine that. And you're the one doing the podcast. You the one doing the editing. You the one, this is my point saying, I make my own beats.

I'm the one putting people on all these boys on money. And I ain't even telling you. I had, see, we can go deep. We can go deep with it. This is what got me right here. Not only did I turn them up, it was another engineer. It was the one dude he would engineer me. He didn't even make beats.

I was making beats. All he did was engineer. He seen how I made beats. I inspired him to make beats. This one I'm 18. I'm like just, I think just turned 18, 17 years old. You know what I'm saying? One of the other.

So he see how I make beats. He started getting, inspired by me start making beats like me. Now, he do beats. He, uh, he pretty, uh, he do, he pretty successful with the beats. Yeah. He didn't have nowhere to stay. He didn't have nowhere to do his sessions at and engineer no more because his

mama wouldn't let him engineer in the house. My uncle blessed me with a studio. Wow. So we had extra rooms in the studio. So get what I do. I let him live in the studio. And I, I, he, my uncle gave me the studio. This is supposed to be my studio.

I let him have one in the room. so he could do studio sessions in the room. Wow. This man get the pillow talking to my baby mom telling her that I'd be with other girls and I don't really like her for real and I'd be talking about her behind her back, just all type of weird, like just moving funny. Not only that, they thought they had another artist who was going to end up blowing up. So they stopped messing with me for real.

They start putting all their effort into the other little brother. who they thought was going to blow up instead of me. Yeah. So at this time, this is all happening at the same time. But what was weird about our whole thing, this is what was funny to me. They didn't even like little bro who was they were trying to switch up on me for it. When I first met all these boys, they used to talk about this man.

All of a sudden he gets a little buzz now of a sudden is, oh, all y'all down with him, y'all switching up on me. Like, they're trying to take my studio that my uncle gave me and use it to help a little brother. So I'm like, what the hell? I'm like, bro, why is everybody acting funny right now? Like, yeah. I'm the one who gave everybody their opportunity.

So I'm like, bro, what did? Like, where is this? Like, it was a switch game. Like, it literally, like, happened, like, in the span of, like, maybe a couple of days, like, come back. It's all like this. Everything's just weird. Yeah. I'm like, what the hell?

What's going on right now? So all these guys are switching up on you. Basically. And I get the point you're making. It's like, you know, if the guys that are, if our team. was just here and they didn't work and I was doing everything and they switched up you know it would it would be crazy I get what you're saying like you did all the work you put them on after they get on they like now we don't need you no more and you like I just gave every last one of y'all the chance

yeah and and I sacrifice like it's not like bro I'm like my uncle they bring in I got schmote in my city I got real it's real smoke where I'm at so like against you yeah so it's like you do a session and bring the wrong in here and then i end up doing whatever to him you see what i'm locked up for it or these are real problems i used to have like i say the other other we're gonna give my name let's just say um let's just say um b all right so b start bringing let me get a other little rapper name that they switched up for water they just say b start bringing water he started bringing water to come rap and I'm like bro you were just talking about this man like you told me he got robbed you told me he ain't talking about nothing you told me he frees no licks and and he's scary and he going out bad

so why is you bringing him around me yeah I'm like bro you don't even like this why is you bringing him around me and why is you using the studio that's supposed to be ours but him book him a session why has you bringing him around me I don't need like this you feel what I'm saying like I'm like I don't even like him, gang. And you don't like him. So why is he round? What is this? What is that?

Yeah. And then it gets to the point where he started getting mad. Come putting him on the spot for bringing all these randoms in my studio. I'm like, bro, I don't know none of these folk, gang. I'm in here, I'm in here fly. I got, I got, I got, I got a diamond bracelets. I got two, three diamond chain. I got my ring on.

I got a watch. I got Rolex on me. a scrape white diamond Rolex and I always got a fly Scrake designer down. This one I used to rock Scrake designer. I'm Dolce to the kicks. I'm Gucci on the top. I'm a miry on the pads. Like

every day. I'm like bro, they look like walking lit. Why is you bringing random? And they might come and like, you know, try to rob you or something like that. Exactly. And I don't know them. So if they do something to me, I'm going to do something to you. And why would you say like like, you know, I get it.

There seems to be like a lot. of tension between people in the rap game in Atlanta. Like, why is that? There's so much politics. Is it jealousy? Is it really just jealousy? It's a lot of jealousy. Everybody, nobody wants to see somebody doing better than them.

Yeah. That's just all it is. And when you start, it's kind of like a dope game. Imagine your block moving. You got a lot of business coming through your block. I just come out of nowhere and start posting up on your block. And I've taken out your business. Now your fiends start coming to me.

We can make it more subtle. Let's say you sell lemonade on your block. I come and sit or set up right next to you and start selling lemonade. The same lemonade you selling, but I start making more money. And everybody coming to me and buying my lemonade instead of yours. Yeah. It's kind of like. It's all just competition.

Like just, I think what you're echoing about your story before Jesus is a lot of people's story in different contexts, right? A lot of people have felt betrayed, a lot of people have felt used. A lot of people have been enslaved to money, fame, you know, drug. The whole, people's stories are different, but that's like the echo of sin. Like, that's just people's stories like they're drowning in sin. What was the breaking point for you? What was the moment and the switch for you after all this stuff is going on? Life kept going.

So life got deeper and deeper. After that, I moved again. So I went and got me in no department. I got locked up again. This time when I was locked up, they had denied my bun. I had got locked up for a switch. My brother had claimed the charge for me, but they had helped me in jail for like four more months after that

because of the prior charges I had. Gotcha. Wait, so someone took the blame for you? Yeah. He took the blame for me. But they still held me. So at that point, I knew it was God talking to me. I was like, once they denied my bun the second time and I knew I was really fin-s sick,

I was like, okay, oh, God, I'm like, I know God talking to me. Like, this is ordained. It ain't no way that I'm just sitting here in jail, especially for something, like a water gun, or come on, man. Yeah. Got me sitting, come on, I knew it was God. So I was like, I'm like, okay, so what do I do? All right, boom.

All right. I get reading the Bible. That's the only thing I can do in there. So now I'm strictly in my book. I'm getting real revelation. I'm getting real revelation. So I'm going to just fad forward a little bit. Basically, it was just, I got out of jail.

I was still on the fence. And my brother died. When my brother died, this was probably about a month ago at this point. It was just so shell-shocking because I still got revelation from it. I was asking God why it happened the way it happened. But it was because I was high. I was all like two purps. I was out like two purrs.

I just rolled up like seven blunts. I smoked probably was on my eighth blent, rolling up my eighth blent. It's like sad? Yeah, and he died. It was just, it was nothing that could help me. Afterwards, I was trying to pop OD pills and smoke OD, but it wasn't nothing helping me. Wasn't nothing helping me.

I couldn't even get high. And I'm off two, three perks. I'm off eight blunts. I'm not high. And you're just coping with the death of your brother? Like it's all just a coping mechanism. I'm like, but I couldn't get high. And I knew that at this point,

it was time for me to choose what life I wanted to live. I knew this was my last choice. And I was, I'm keeping everything real surface level with a lot of these stories. For sure. Because I just don't want to talk your head off. But my point of saying that is it went from, me getting kicked out of the house to getting deeper in the street to i slowed down a little bit

that first time i got locked up for the love yeah the nerve gun thing i started learning a little bit about god knowing to be a little bit more humble but i was still in the street after that i got locked up again that's what opened my eyes to knowing that i it was it was in the near in the real near future i'm gonna get close to god like and actually get my life to him but i just didn't know when i was gonna do it And then the third strike was when my brother died. So it was like, all right, bro, you got, you on your last strike. Like, I felt like he took somebody that was real close to me to show me that I'm probably going to be next if I don't grow up. You feel what I'm saying?

So I was like, I don't want to die because I know I'm going to go to hell. So I was like, man, it's your time for me. to just go ahead and lock in and just let go all the drugs. I knew I was supposed to been let go all the drugs. I'm supposed to be able to start using my influence for something positive instead of, you know, still playing on the fence, still spewing curses in my music, still influencing people to do wrong. So, and I ain't even tell you, the reason I got locked up, let me go back, I'm missing one part.

The reason I got locked up was the same dude that I told you changed on me. Yeah. He saw me at a smoke shop and he ain't, I ain't seen him. When I pulled off, he went in there and did a video and said I couldn't go to the stove. And this is where I'm from. Like, this is really where I'm from. So I'm like, yeah, I go, I pull up, I pull up to the stove. So next day, when he did the video, he did the, so he did the video.

And the next day after he did the video, I'll pull up. I'm like, you ain't even tell me why I can't go in my city. being private. Yeah. So after that, I pull up to the store. The nigga tell on me, I get locked up. He called the police on me. That's what had me reminiscing in jail.

I forgot to tell you that. That's what had me reminisced because I knew that this nigga played me out of my position. And I played myself at my position, worrying about somebody who already wanted to see me lose anyway. Yeah. So I was like, after that, I knew that the street won the way,

because I thought folks was really on that how I thought I was on that. But Nick, it don't really be like that. It's all the image, it's all the internet game. Yeah. And I had to realize that, like, some of them really do be on that. I ain't saying that certain people in the street

don't be on that because some folk do be on that. But my point of being that is it was all pointless. After I knew the life I thought was cool, it was pointless. I was like, well, I got to grow up. Yeah. Now I got to grow up. And if being in the street is pointless,

then what is the point of life? And that's what I was starting to try to figure out. Like, what is real? I started doing research on all religions, on all spiritualities. And I start paying attention that it's everything, every religion that has some type of Jesus. Yeah. It just, they play with Jesus in certain type of ways.

So I was trying to see which Jesus. is the real one and which God is the real God. Yeah. I wanted to know what was right and I knew God was right. I just didn't know which God was right. Yeah. So I started doing my research and ain't nothing add up like Christianity. Everything down to the biblical principles,

down to the way it tells you to live, down to why it tells you to live how you live, down to the peace you get when you say Jesus' name, down to the peace he's giving me in my life, down to every time I prayed to him, he made something happen. That was the point right there. After I opened my eyes and I started doing research on Jesus,

I knew Jesus was the real Messiah. You've been able to forgive that guy that? Yeah, I forgive. That's the coolest thing ever, how the love of God will give you that strength that you try to find in your soul to forgive people. I think your story is beautiful because you go from I got a good one too I got to tell you after you get done

the season of of hardship trial long season of being enslaved to everything but Jesus and then Jesus changed their life now you change your music you change the way you talk you change the way you interact with people now I mean I think what you said about man you were just reading the Bible every day and it was changing the way you think renewing your mind now you're here man I really believe

because I know you got to catch your flight here in a few minutes if you could like tell someone watching or listening to this like how would you encourage someone watching or listen to this to leave their life of sin and submit to God?

I ain't going to force nothing on nobody but I tell you to try to go build a relationship with him don't look at it as religion don't look at it as restriction look at it as relation look at it as you just trying to figure out what's right in life because we don't nobody know what's right until you do know what's right so what i say is don't go by your own understanding because your heart is deceitful and wicked

like god says you got to listen to your spirit not your heart and god is your spirit you have a holy spirit so within saying that i'll tell you just to pray for understanding i pray and just pray that god help you find the right way not the way you want the right way find the right way and as men we think with logic as people were supposed to think with logic women think about feelings but as people we are supposed to think about logic and by me saying that I want you to just go do your own research and don't listen to nobody else's word um that's what got me off the track of my relation with god I know that me listening to Hebrew Israelites and me listening to Muslims and me listening to even my little Jew buddies.

I was listening to all, even my E5 partners, like every different person, I was listening to many different people instead of listening to what was really right. When I prayed and asked for wisdom and discernment and how to, and guidance, I made it. I made it to where I was supposed to be. And I got one more story I want to tell you real quick. Yeah. Anybody who wants to be in an industry. Understand what industry you are becoming of.

Understand where you want to go. Because the music industry, the entertainment industry, is ran by the devil. I want you all to know this. I thought it was cap. I thought the devil was cap. I thought God was cap. Now, I ain't going to say I thought God was cap.

I just thought it wasn't no Illuminati. I thought it wasn't nothing that going. But what I want folks know is, I know you probably seen the story I was telling about me getting booked for a photo shoot and having a real encounter with the devil. So. You had an encounter with the devil? Yeah.

I didn't even know about that. Can you, like... They booked me for a photo shoot. This is what made me start getting into God right before I got locked up again. Yeah. This is how I knew God was talking to me, though. I was scrabling the fence still on belief. This is what I would take.

I didn't know what to believe because I was getting into all the spirituality. I ain't know what to believe. And God sent me a real encounter, so I went up. I got booked for a photo shoot. They took me all the way up this mountain. I was on top of the mountain. We finished the photo shoot. They had an OD cars.

They got a three-seat of McLaren. They got a Ferrari. And I'm asking, I'm like, how y'all get all this money? How y'all do this? They're like, we do demonic rituals. I'm laughing. No, you don't, bro. I'm like, how you get this money, though?

Put me on. I'm trying to get like y'all. Like, no, we do the money rituals. I say, so what type of the minding ritual? He said, the Luminati never talked to you. I'm laughing. I'm still laughing at him. Like, man, why y'all play on me?

Stop, man, like, how y'all get in the money? He's like, bro. No, for real. Leonardo Rucaprio do all the initiation. I'm like, what? I'm like, who is that? What is you talking about, gang? He was like, he gave me a,

a list of people who all did it. I'm gonna keep it PG-13. He was basically saying either you let them peg you or you do oral and you'll get whatever you want. Tell them what you want. If you want to be the next big actress, next big, whoever, I can take you to somebody.

And all you got to let them do is just do what they want to do to you before a night. Do some gay shit. Basically do some gay shit. That's what he was telling me. I'm right here, man. You're playing a game.

You playing. So I'm still not trying to bleed this. And he's like, this when they get to laugh and they're like, they like, oh, we need to take him to the booty club. Stop playing me, bro. He's like, bro, I can make it happen. Now, why they doing all this, I'm trying to call my Uber. We're on top of the mountain, though.

So I don't got no service. So I'm like, all right, I see which one need to work on me. They take off. The people who book me, they take off. Like, I say, I tell them, I'm like, all right, y'all can take me to your Korean barbecue. I'm telling them this because they were telling me they was like

when I start calling my Uber my flight were finn't take off they were like man your flight couldn't take off anyway let us just get you a hotel and you can come get some food out of a Korean barbecue I'm like at first I was like no

but then I ain't had no service to get downstairs I mean get down the hill right so I'm telling them take me down to the bottom of the mountain and I'm not telling them this but in my mind

I'm like I'm gonna let them take me to the Korean and barbecue then when we get down there I'm just coming in Uber and go so I tell them like take me down to a Korean barbecue they're like okay shamo good okay boom the people who booked me left after they leave I'm in the car with the other dude that they called up to have a photo shoot with me or take pictures because he come up and he like to take pictures with celebrities to make him look like he was rich or famous I get in the car with him in the three-seaty with clearing this man as we're going down See, on the way up, we go all the way up, like in the swivel, like, all the way around

the mountain. Yeah. On the way down, we take a right. So he's not going the same way that we came up. So I'm like, what is the hell? So then when I try, I'm like, okay. I'm like, take me to go get some McDonald's, gang. I'm like, in Shamo, I don't want to go get some McDonald.

He said, we're not going to take you get no McDonald's. We spend all this money to get you up here. It's not phase change, gang. In front of me, you just see. seen Venom, like, um... Spider-Man? Yeah, from Spider-Man. Kind of like that.

It went like, OD, like, long, like, veins. O.D. long got his face. It was probably about this wild. Face changed. I'm like, what to? Like, it's probably about, like, right here. All I can say, bro, it was like, oh, kind of like the sand man.

Like, how to, you'll see somebody morph into something? Yeah. It's like that. It threw me all the way off. So I'm confused now. I'm like, okay. I didn't know how to get out of the car. I would have been got out of the car.

We in the three-seat McClare. So it's like a button you got to push to get up out of there. Gotcha. So he backing in. Now he backing it to somebody, um, driveway. He smack up mailbox. So now he hit the button and he'd get up out of there. Hit the button and get up out of there.

I see the button. I'm getting up out of there too. I hit the button. Get what? It's a mailman come out of nowhere. I slap run out to him. Hey, bro, let me get in the back of your truck. He's looking at me like, man, no.

I look at him, I'm like, bro, just let me get in the back your truck. I'm like, please just take me down to the bottom. Please just take me down to the bottom. Oh, God, he took me down to the bottom. If I were him, I wouldn't have took me down to the bottom. Something random, trying to get in the back of my truck. He took me now to the bottom, and I called an Uber, and I just left.

The whole thing was just, I felt it in my spirit. As soon as I got up to the top of that mountain, it was something off. There was something wrong. Yeah. And I've never seen no motion like that. Like, when I'm from, you know, 100,000, that's smooth. Like, we hunt, you know, that's hood rich.

You know, you get you 100,000, you're up. $100,000, get you a nice car, a little spot, you good. Like, Efo having real money. So you knew, like, based on their status, that there was something wrong. It wasn't in that. It was the fact of how, when I got up there. First of all, that whole,

mountain just felt funny. Then when it was time for me to go, it started kicking in when I was trying to get my Uber and I think that they had me at the top of the mountain, no service, no nothing. And they came out here out of everybody, they came up to their much spot. I'm like, hell no. You knew something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy because even then, like, you knew from that moment, like, man, I can't be doing

that even before you were fully submitted to Christ. and now looking back on it, it's crazy how, like, the devil will overplay his hand. And then you, like, literally, this guy's like, yeah, bro, we do demonic rituals, and it's, like, normal. And you're like, what? That's crazy. And now you're serving the Lord.

And you're just like, dude, these guys, I think it's so, I think there's a big encouragement there just to let, like, our battle's not against flesh and blood, but against principalities. And I really believe the devil's overplaying his hand now. He definitely is. He definitely is. That's basically what I was saying, though. I just wanted to get my testimony card.

The reason I'm telling this story is because it comes from me. Like, where I'm from, we don't, I ain't going to say necessarily believe in the devil, but we don't really pay attention to the devil. It's not big. We're trying to get some moneyished out of the way. That's it. Get some money and get flashed out of the way. You know what I'm saying?

For me to actually see that in my face, I was just, see, what I'm trying to say is this coming from me, bro. If you know me, you know me. If you don't know me, then the people on camera, you ain't got to believe me. I don't care. But if you know me, you know I don't do no cap, I'm not lying. Yeah. I don't just lie.

I don't just talk. Yeah. I really saw this. I believe it. And it made me, this is what made, that's what, like, made me know that the devil and God was real. But that's what made me start to understand what is the real God. the devil real what is the real god yeah and within this last year and the year that was a done it two years ago but that was like a year and a half but within this year and a half

that's what's been getting me closer to god you see what i'm saying yeah because you got you saw the darkness i seen it and now you're now you're in the light with jesus this is why i have to use my influence for good like how you doing because the only thing that's important is when winning souls. And if to anybody out there who isn't Christian, I just hope you live a godly lifestyle because greed will never get you the way you want to be in life. It's different brackets.

You know, it's a certain group of people who own everything. When you get to a certain level of influence, you can no longer be on the fence. and what I'm saying is if I own everything and your level of influence is getting to the point where you can put a movement together

that can possibly break down my empire you got to go because it's business this is what they say is business so if you're hurting my pockets and then you have enough to not only hurt my pockets but start building your own empire like how I did

this world ain't big enough for the both of us it's my world that's how they look at and they own everything and we don't fight against flesh or blood we fight against

principalities of rulers and higher places the devil is the highest ruler under the devil becomes his pawns but his pawn who who runs this world

the devil but okay if the devil runs this world then who else is running this world then who else is running this world? world in the physical. The devil runs it in the spiritual. Who runs it in the physical? I ain't even got to do all that.

Just do your own research on who runs it in the physical. And then when you start saying, oh, they run it. Well, who else is rich? And who else is getting to these people like them? Everybody who has influence, they ain't pushing Jesus. Right. They ain't pushing Jesus. You don't see Jesus on TV.

Yeah. You see sex, money, murder. Yeah. That's what you see. Yep. So why is the people who own everything pushing sex, money, murder? And why in the Bible does it say Revelation 3-9? In Revelation 3-9, why does it say that?

You say, damn, well, it's a certain group of people who own everything. And anybody who went against it, they died. Anybody who got a little bit of influence and pushed something opposite than what the people who own everything is pushing, they die. Why is that? Because Jesus is the real way. They're pushing the opposite of Jesus because they believe something other than Jesus.

But Jesus is the only way. Praise God. Amen. Tony, thank you for coming on, bro. We appreciate you. Love you. Thank you for sharing your testimony and what God's doing in you.

Man, I'm just so grateful for you. Thanks for sitting with us, bro. Thank you, brother. Thank you for having me. I hope y'all learn something. Guys, thank you so much for watching and listening to this episode. If you guys like it, subscribe to us on YouTube,

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