The Bryce Crawford Podcast - Is The Antichrist Already Climbing the Ranks? | Philip Anthony Mitchell (EP 190)

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

In this episode, Bryce interviews Phillip Anthony Mitchell!

AI is going to be part of the end time prophecy. I've seen a video on me preaching somebody's church I've never been to. I've seen a video with me on TikTok standing behind somebody's pulpit preaching. I never even met this man. Things are getting so real right now. You can't even tell the difference. Maybe God is trying to use any willing, non-compromising, not afraid, non-punk voices to speak the truth because when God speaks, he echoes.

I'm using every available voice to sound an alarm. I am coming and I am coming very soon. Around the age of 24, I attempted suicide once, which was unsuccessful. By the grace of God, when Jesus found me in a bathroom over a toilet seat, he says, The church in America, it is dying, it is losing its fire. You want to go back to your nation and do something about it. I fall down on my hands and my knees, and a man died there, bro. I left a man in his room.

I came back a different man. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford podcast. I'm Bryce, and today I'm excited. to sit down and have a conversation with this guest. We got Pastor Philip Anthony Mitchell with us this morning. What's up, Bryce? Come on, man.

You crack it a little grin. I like it. Come on. I appreciate you having me on the podcast, man. I got to tell you something. I don't know if you know this, but I wanted to honor you publicly because I think you have a deep heart for people. And I think social media doesn't do justice on what people's lives look like behind

closed doors. So last year, I was preaching at Vukum. And I left the night, night when we did like a live. podcast in a room, a couple of hard people, and I'm leaving. It's 11.30 at night. I see a dude in the hoodie, circle in the venue, praying. It was you. Late at night, 1130, praying. And I remember waking up the next morning and seeing it on your story, you crying out to the Lord on behalf of the people in Miami and my generation early morning in the hotel room. And I've like, and I observed from afar and what what when the Lord came in that room was a response to the heart of your prayers and so

I just want you to know like I glean from that I respect it I have reaped the the benefits of the fervent prayer of the righteous from the the prayers that you've cried for my generation so I wanted to like publicly honor you and say thank you I've seen that with my own eyes that and people on social media didn't see man I appreciate that man I want to publicly honor you too. You know, we was talking about this off camera, but I think it's worth noting that I appreciate what you're doing for the culture and for the body of Christ. I think there's an entire generation out there. Trust you. Believe in you, believe in your ministry. You're having a great impact on this entire generation. And I want to encourage you and what you're doing, that your

voice matters right now. Your voice matters in the culture. It matters to the church. It matters in this hour. And so I commend you for what you're doing for being so young, but standing on business and being an uncompromising voice in the culture, I think, because we live in a generation where compromises rampant voices like yours matter, right? So I commend you for what you're doing, too, bro. Thank you for saying that that means a lot. You know, I want to get it like briefly into your story, like what it would look like following Jesus. But, you know, a lot of people don't know. You've been a pastor of that church for a while, 2819. You've been a pastor of there for a while. been pastor for 13 years.

And not a lot of people know that. A lot of people think that you came out of the woodworks. Like, oh, look, who's this pastor? He's being bold. But that boldness, and correct me if I'm wrong, came from after a visit. You went to the Holy Land and you experienced something over there. But, you know, a lot of people haven't seen your faithfulness for the decade before, prior, that you were faithfully pouring into the city of Atlanta.

And so before you even became a pastor, what was life like growing up? How did you become a Christian? Man, I was, you know, this is widely known, but, you know, I was raised in Queens, New York, born to Christian parents, but was in a very urban environment. That environment had a lot of influence on my life, and so most of my days were spent in the street. And, you know, and that's not any fault in my parents. They did the absolute best they can do. But I was just drawn to the community outside of my home. So I pretty much lived a very dark life. I probably went out into the street maybe around age of 12

and I lived the dark life until I had to leave New York because illegal trouble around age 18 ended up in North Carolina continued that dark path for another decade and it was a season in my life where I was very hopeless, very empty

around the age of 24 attempted suicide once which was unsuccessful by the grace of God he sent someone to my apartment that night that kind of their presence talked me off of ledge and it was in that season when I was suicidal and hopeful when Jesus found me in a bathroom over a toilet seat and brought me into the kingdom personally for himself and so that's how I got

saved wow yeah man what was that experience like when Jesus was encountering you like for you what did that look like man for me and this story is widely known I was my girlfriend at the time who became my wife got into a car accident we was living together so obviously we was doing everything wrong we wasn't we wasn't saved and she came back to the apartment and uh she put on gospel music and it was the first time of my life i ever heard gospel music and she was she had her hands raised and she was thanking god for her life and i was staring at her walk back and forth and i thought to myself whatever that is i want that you know it seemed like joy it seemed like peace it seemed like all the things I did not have, right?

So when I crawled into that bathroom, I started yelling at God. I did not know God existed, right? I saw my parents pray. I saw my parents serve God, but I did not understand his existence. And so when God met me in that bathroom that day, it was like I had tears of sorrow that dried up.

I knew that something had transpired in my heart. I think for the first time I felt peace. and that night I tried to lay with my girlfriend and now for the first time I felt conviction for sin right so I knew something had transpired in my heart and then I began to read the scriptures just very, very aggressively

I started out in Proverbs and then I read Daniel and then I read Revelation I don't know why I went in that order but my walk with the Lord it started out just very very serious I was so broken when he found me And I was in so much darkness.

Everything had me wanted to just pursue him. You know, anything I do, I do a hundred. I do all the way. I don't do it halfway at all. So when the Lord saved me, I was just radically set on fire for the Lord. It doesn't mean I made mistakes in beginning, things that I regret. But I went after Jesus with my whole heart from the very beginning. All right, quick question.

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Do you think that's where that all birth? I do. I do think that played a big role in my ministry and in my life. You know, that was also around the time Mel Gibson had put out the passion of the Christ. Yeah. Gosh, that movie's great. right and so that was the first movie i saw post salvation oh snap so that movie had just come out my wife and i went to go see that movie and i remember walking out of that movie in tears i didn't

talk for a week right i didn't talk to i didn't talk to what she was my girlfriend at the time um i didn't talk to lean up for a week i didn't talk to anybody i was so overwhelmed by that movie so i had just seen the passion of the christ at the same time i'm reading through the book of revelation i'm reading daniel so that kind of mark to me from the very beginning. So for me, and I would look back on this and think that maybe it was God's providence that led me to those particular books. So from the very beginning, I always had my mind fixed on the end.

Yeah. There was always something in me that was thinking about the end, thinking about eternity, thinking about the judgments at the end, thinking about the rewards for beliefs at the end. So that was always in the back of my mind from the very beginning. And I think God wanted it to be that way, at least for me, right? And so also to have seen the passion of the Christ, those graphic images of the final hours of the life of Jesus really marked me. And so the cross had a great weight for me from the very beginning. From the very beginning, the cross was meaningful to me.

Although I did not fully understand the depth of the holiness of Christ and the full ramifications the way that on the cross until I came back from Israel. But from the very beginning, I was marked by what happened on the cross. And so I think it had a deep effect on me. And I would say that that was really my foundation from the very beginning, right? Wow. The cross, the end times, thinking about eternity, those words that Jesus sent to those seven ancient churches. Essentially, he sent seven copies of the book of Revelation to seven churches. And that was in my heart from the very beginning.

So I do think it was type of a guiding light of sorts. in conjunction of reading Proverbs and understanding the points of God's wisdom above man-made wisdom. Although that did not save me from making mistakes, those things were in me from the beginning. I think the Holy Spirit would water that over time. Oh, my goodness.

Literally two nights ago, I watched Passion of the Christ again. Yeah. And so when you're saying that, I'm here, because it's fresh on my mind. You know, like you go watch a movie from a while. I love that movie, but then you watch it again and you catch some extra details. and I'm just thinking about when he's getting flogged with the cat of nine tails right now.

I can't even imagine watching that fresh into surrender to Jesus and then reading the book of Revelation where, you know, that always blows my mind when John's like I look to heaven and there's the lamb that was slain on the throne. Yes. Oh my gosh. I mean, what was that like? Did you kind of put those two pieces together?

Yeah, I think for me, the impact I had on me is that around that time, I was also introduced to the ministry of Billy Graham. My mother and I attended his very last crusade. Billy Graham's final crusade was held in Queens, New York. And so around this time, I also had a chance to go his last crusade was, I think it was around 2005. So when you put all these things together, I had just seen the passion of the Christ. I had just finished reading the book of Revelation. I have read Daniel.

I'm reading through Proverbs. And at the same time, my mother and I would go see Billy Graham's last crusade. And so from the very beginning, there was not only a deep, deep, deep impact that has happened in my heart as it relates to the cross, but then there's a desire to let as many people as possible know about what Jesus has done on the cross. And so I have this desire, this dream. I want to be an evangelist. I want to be like a black Billy Graham, right? And I would ask God in my prayer time, could you ever use a black man, like at the level, use a Billy Graham to take the gospel to the world?

So that was my dream in the beginning to be an evangelist. I was so marked by the movie and so marked by revelation that everything in me just wanted to tell as many people about Christ as possible. And my shyness in the beginning, I remember I made these little cards. They were like business cards. I mean, people don't really use them as much today. And at least not your generation, y'all just tap phones and share contacts. But I made this little card on one side it had from Romans. explanation of like Romans 323 623 Romans 10 what we used to call the Romans Road was on one

side and then a prayer of salvation on the other side and I was shy in the beginning with sharing my faith so I would go through places and I would just toss that card at people I would go through the drive-thru McDonald's and toss the car through the drive-thru window you know I'll be at a restaurant I always slip it in the thing when I'm at a restaurant so everywhere I was going I was leaving those cards and that was my my first attempt at sharing the gospel when I got a a little boulder, I would go into parks. I was standing on park benches and I would just preach the gospel to anybody that would listen. Wow. Right. I would walk the street and I would preach the gospel of anybody that walked by, right? As long before there was a platform, a pool pit, a camera.

I was preaching the gospel. I was just so burned by what was going to happen in the end in conjunction with what I saw Jesus suffer on the cross and reading those things. My heart was just, tell as many people about Christ as possible. Now, I don't think that ever left me, although God called me to the pastor. Grudgingly, I didn't want to be a pastor. So I don't think that ever left me. Even now as a local pastor, in my heart, I am an evangelist. I am most excited when I'm talking about the cross.

I'm most excited when I'm glorifying what Christ's done for us on the cross, right? So I think that evangelist is in there, right? Although God called me to do something I did not want to do. a pastor out of obedience, not out of glory. But that's what that was like for me. There was a burning from the very beginning to tell as many people as possible about Christ. Yeah, I've heard so many pastors.

I've verbally heard a pastor before say, hey, I'm glad you're an evangelist and I'm a pastor. And your job is to preach the gospel. And I was like, my, like, it is a responsibility of every believer to preach the gospel. I'm not the only dude that's supposed to preach the gospel. Right.

And, I mean, it's evident in the way that you, in the way that you exhort the scriptures and break them down in the exegesis, it's like, wow, there is a heart for the cross. I love Michael Cullianos. I just saw a clip of him the other day. He said that, you know, we've grown so mundane. It's just saying the cross and the gospel. And we've, like, that should move us as people.

And that rocked me to the core. Because, I mean, we're in America, we can just kind of walk around and be like, oh, I'm a Christian. And some people will be like, oh, whatever. Some people are like, yeah, me too. And some people aren't at very few are living it out. So I think that's extremely compelling. You know, something that I want you to talk about is all that stuff that you're describing,

no one thinks that that's what happens. People look at social media and they look at outward, you know, impact and outward eyeballs. And they say, oh, yeah, that just came out of nowhere. Like I said, people thought you came out of nowhere. You'd been pastoring for over a decade in Atlanta. Yes. But at the same time, if people knew what you went through and people knew what you go through now, they wouldn't want half of what they think that they want.

Yeah, you know, I don't believe that there is any real overnight successes, as we would call it. I spent 10 years on the backside of a mountain before anybody knew my name, right? And I think even knowing my name, that's not even that important, right? One of the things I have learned, Bryce, in these last three years where everything God has done with 2019, I've had a difference of opinion about the whole sector of church that just focuses on growth and platforms and all these things. Everything that's happened with 2019 has been sovereign, right? My ex-p. sinning in the room, you know?

I mean, we talk about this in staff meetings. We're not smart enough to manufacture any of this price. Even what's happened with your ministry. I mean, you two are impacting the whole world, right? Are you and I smart enough to have really manufactured that for ourselves? You know, are we really that? creative, right? For whatever reason, God's hand is on your life. For whatever reason, God is chosen to show you favor, right? For whatever reason, God is chosen to use Bryce in this generation

to be a voice to this nation, to the globe, to the entire generation, right? Even considering your past, you know, being far away from God, God getting a hold of you at a time when you were suicidal, just like I was, and then we say how God just breathe on your ministry. I mean, could you have really manufactured all of that? No. You know, could I have really manufactured all of this? No. And so I think that there is a man-made pride in which we try to take credit

for some of the things that God has done instead of deflecting that glory to say, no, God has done all of this. So now I think about some of the stuff. I think, you know, any fool would a gift in a microphone could probably gather a crowd to some degree. This is different than when God breathes on something and this was manufactured by the whole.

Holy Spirit, we eclipse God's glory when we try to take credit for that. And so when I think about everything happening right now, I say to, I said, you know, the most important thing, Bryce, is as far as to be faithful. Everybody just needs to be faithful. They need to be faithful to Jesus in every sphere of influence, every day of their life, and whatever he has called him to do, right? There is a pastor right now in Bryce in West Virginia somewhere, right? He lives in a town with 2,000 people.

And he has 25 people in his church or there's 50 people there and he loves the Lord and he loves his wife and his kids and He's faithful and he has character and integrity and he has a prayer life and all the things I mean does God love that man any less than he love you and I know right the game the the goal is faithfulness Everybody just needs to be faithful most guys don't even think twice about what they're putting on their body every single day You'll think about what you eat you'll think about how you train but then you go to the shower and you use whatever random shampoo or body wash has been sitting there for years and you never question it. I was the same way. I ended up switching to base body works and honestly it's been one of the simplest upgrades I've ever made. I've been using their shampoo and conditioner. It's called the shower duo and the difference

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your body, but what goes onto it, it's worth looking into. Go to basedbodyworks.com, use code Bryce for 20% off, and they'll throw in a free toiletry bag when you grab a set. Because at the end of the day, confidence shouldn't come at the cost of your health. Right. And so there is the way I feel even right now about where I am is I'm just trying to be faithful, right, to what God has called me to do. There is nothing happening right now with 2019. And when we change the name, I ask God for, right? Everything I'm experiencing right now than I ask God for. These are things that I dreamt about for the first 10 years in my pastoral ministry, but I dreamt about it with a lot of vanity in my heart, right? It was, I was faithful to the

word I was faithful to my church but that vanity was in my heart that longing to be known that longing for a big platform that longing for a big church to make me feel and all that was really trying to stroke my insecurities but it was vanity and it was there and it was buried and over time God had to work that out of my heart beginning with that trip to Israel in December 2018 God had to work that out of my heart right so when when people see me now like no no I didn't just come out of nowhere and then my platform means nothing if I'm not faithful no I've been I've been faithful to Jesus for over two decades you know I've been faithful to the Lord for over two decades I've been grinding for over two decades I've been in pastoral ministry for

13 years right 10 of those years in the dark you know and I've tried to quit more times than I can count been hurt more times than I can count betrayed more times than I can count have disappointed Jesus more time than I can count. I am, I am, Amanda's just trying to hear in the end, well done, right? That is, that's what I'm trying to do. And if God has breathed on 2019, on my life is to make him known, right?

It's to make the cross known, right? It's not for personal self-angrandized or any of those things. Like our staff, you know, two of them in the room right now. We say all the time. Jesus is building and we're stewarding. That's all we are. I love that.

I'm not an owner of 2019. I'm really just a steward. You are a steward. All the stewards, right? Because the Lord has told us we're going to give an account, right, for what we're doing right now. So I approach ministry like now as a steward. All of this, man, is for God's glory. Right?

It's not for mine. Yeah. So what exactly happened in the Holy Land for you? I hear that all the time. So many people like they go to the Holy Land. And it just does something to them. But for you, what specifically happened? In that season, our ministry was maybe about eight years old.

And I think I was pastor and on empty. I spent a lot of time trying to be creative. You know, if I come up with a dope series, I could get more butts in seats. You know, if I had a dope graphic, I could get more butts in seats. And it was starting to become that. How creative can I be? And I had this moment when I realized, I'm faithful in my proclamation, but I'm really doing this and I'm empty on inside.

I have no clear sense of identity, no clear sense of direction. So I went to Israel for 10 days. I was fasting and praying, and I said, God, I really need you to meet me here. I need clarity. I need a sense of direction. I need a sense of identity. Like, who am I? I feel like my voice sounds like an amalgamation of men that I admire.

I want my own voice. I want to know what am I supposed to be doing, right? And so I'm there for 10 days. I'm fast and praying those 10 days. I hear nothing from God, right? I travel the whole nation from the north and the Golden Heights all the way to Jerusalem and the south part of the city. It is the last day of my tour.

I have not heard from God. It is December 8th. So it is the day after my birthday, right? It is December 8th. and it is raining, it is cold, and I'm almost upset like God, I'm about to leave in a few hours. We're about to hop back on this bus to head back to Tel Aviv. I have not heard from you. We go into the garden tomb.

We come out to tomb and I hear singing in a language I did not understand, but I can feel the presence of God. Right. And off to my side, I see this group of people, maybe about 30 or 40 of them. They look nothing like me. But I don't care. So I slip into their gathering. anyway and I'm just in the back and I'm the only black dude in the back right it's very obvious I don't belong right and and I can feel God's presence and I lift up my hands I'm

worshiping God my wife creeps in and then a dude from my bus creeps in and then this other sister from my bus creeps in and this was so providential the guy motions to me to come to the front I walk to the front my wife goes the guy goes the young lady goes he started speaking to me a language I did not know it was Portuguese by God's divine providence the gentleman who was with me spoke Portuguese he was from Brazil so he starts interpreting what this guy is saying my wife is watching she's crying and then the woman who snuck it with me she's recording the whole thing so I have the whole thing I posted this on my Instagram many years ago he says to me in his native

language he says to me says I've been to your nation and I've seen the church in America it is dying is losing this fire it is dark and God says to you young men do you want to go back to your nation and do something about it right I cry out to this man I say yes I fall down on my hands and my knees and then that company of believers they were from Brazil I learned they all laid hands on me they begin to pray for me my wife is weeping the other young woman is recording the whole thing and as he's praying for me he's charging me go back to your country cry aloud spare not set the bride of christ on fire right so i take that whole encounter i tattooed a whole thing to my arm this this whole sleep i have is that

story right from the date the place the word that i got everything so i tattooed that whole thing to my arm and the text that i got flying back from tel Aviv was Isaiah 6 so i put that on the inside of my arm wow you know some people probably going to crucify you or not because you got to sleep I got a sleeve and they're going to say we're ungodly. But I'm flying back from Tel Aviv. And the thing that marked me on that trip was not only that encounter at the garden tomb, but when I was in Jerusalem, I saw a reverence for God I'd never seen inside the United States, amongst the Christians and the Jews, right?

For them, faith was not chained to a day of the week. It encompasses every part of their life, right? And so I saw a respect for God and a respect for his word and a reverence for the kingdom. I had never seen the United States. I met a scribe on the top of Mount Massada who was sitting in a cave. And he was copying the Old Testament by hand with ink. He was like in Deuteronomy. And he did that eight hours a day, five days a week.

And he said to me, if I make one mistake, I have to start the whole thing over. That's how much respect. he had for the word of God. And I had never seen anybody with that level of respect for the word of God. So I'm flying back from Tel Aviv and I am convicted. I said, man, I seen a level of respect and honor and reverence for God. I had never seen the United States. There, I saw God as holy for the very first time, like supremely holy. And I feel like the encounter that Isaiah had, he was around your age, Bryce when Isaiah had that encounter he was around 20 years of age because you're 21 you're 22 so when you read Isaiah 6 when Isaiah sees the pre-incarnate Jesus high and exalted he rec he sees him in in his

in his full beauty and he recognizes his supreme holiness and against the backdrop of seeing God for who he really is he saw himself for who he really is sinful he saw his nation for what it really was sinful and Isaiah's around 20 when he has that encounter. He's around your age. He's around 20 years away. He's a young man when he has that encounter. That's what happened for me in Israel. I had an Isaiah 6 encounter.

And so I'm flying back from Tel Aviv. I'm reading through Isaiah 6, and I am conflicted in my soul, right? Once you have been exposed, you cannot be unexposed. You can try to hide it. You can try to suppress it, but it's in there. I had seen God for all of His holiness I had been marked by that charge

that I was given to go back and set the country on fire to awaken the bride is what I was told to do I had been marked by the holiness I saw in the reverence for the scriptures and I could not be unmarked and so I knew on that 14 hours 17 hour flight coming back in Tel Aviv I would never be the same and I remember when I got home I took four Sundays off from preaching because I said to myself I can't go back in the pool

but the way that I left. I took four Sundays off. I put up elders to preach and I wrestle with God for 30 days. And during that 30 days, God told me just preach about my holiness. And so the very first series I did coming back from Israel

was a series through Isaiah 6 on the holiness of God. Some people got mad. Some people left the church. Some people thought I was too radical. They thought I was too on fire. They thought I was too aggressive, too brash. I never look back, right?

December 2018, I made a decision. I will spend the rest of my life, crying aloud, sparing not about the holiness of God, the purity of God, reverence for his scriptures, winning souls, multiplying disciples,

living for eternity, no matter what it costs me, right? I made a vow to God that I would do that because even if, you know, people across the camera, they don't understand, right? They will make videos about me until they blew in the face, right? They will pay their bills, right, on slander, the sin of slander, using my name for propaganda, right? They will do that until they blow in their face, right? None of this is going to stop what God has called me to do, right?

Because at the end of the day, I'm not going to give an account to them. I'm going to give an account to the one that told me cry aloud and spare not set the bride on fire awaken the church in America that is my charge and I'm going to do those three things until he comes to get me

or they come and get me whichever one happens first that is my responsibility and I'm not going to back away from that right so that is really all what happened to me I think that's like tattooed to my heart I tattooed that to my heart arm and and I just I'm a man died there bro wow right like the old Philip Anthony Mitchell died there right I left a man in Israel I came back a different man would

you say that that because you had been faithful to the Lord yeah granted I I know exactly what you mean when you said oh I was preaching on empty like I've been there before I understand because you get it you get in this little like place sometimes where you think at least for me this was about like six months ago where I got real of myself and I'm like, dang, I'm trying to conjure up some sort of words because I think that what I say is going to, and there's so much pressure on like what I've got to do rather than just being like faithful to reading the scriptures and God, like, what do you have to say? But would you say, when you say the old Philip died there, but you were already fallen Jesus?

So was that just like a moment in your sanctification journey? I mean, how would you, do you give what I'm saying? Yeah, I think if you and I would be. be honest bro i think there's a lot of believers right now who are doing christianity full of compromise on the inside right christ is sunday morning christ is a necklace you know christ is their youth group but they're not burning on the inside right you know and there's a lot of ministry right now happening disconnected from christ i mean you have people singing on platforms don't have a real relationship with the lord you have people preaching that don't have a real relationship with the lord

And because, and you know this, you know what I'm about to say. According to what Paul wrote to the church in Rome, you know, gifts coming out repentance. People can use their gifts to do whatever they want price. You're gifted, right? Let's be honest. You're a gifted communicator, right? If you could walk away from God on the inside and still go move a room, you got people can sing.

They can hold a note. They could be living foul in the dark and still get up there and move a room. That don't mean with anointe. I'm just talking about with sheer gifting. Right. You got people who got administrative gifts. They can be administrative, can move an organization, move a room, move on and still not be fully sold out to Jesus on the inside. Because our gifts come.

So God ain't going to take away the gift. You can use it any way that you want. Right. And so I think it is very possible to do Christianity and do ministry and be far away from God on the inside. Right. And there's two types of far away. There's a distance that is born of just brokenness and pain and shame in which the Lord is like. wound us back softly but then there's a different type of distance that's born of

iniquity where you're distant from God because you love sin and you love iniquity and you enjoy that more than holiness so your distance from God is straight out of rebellion and disobedience that's a different kind of distance right where the Lord is dealing with you so so I think it's possible to do that so for me before that encounter I had I think I was just preaching on empty of a revelation of the furious holiness of Jesus and a seriousness about who he is, what he has called us to do in the account we're going to give in the end.

I was faithful, but I don't think I was really serious at my core, and I think that's what transformed me. Does that make sense? Also, too, I also used to... The other thing, too, that happened to me, and you and I was talking about this, off camera is that I saw

material things as the reward. You know what I mean? It's like a platform a big following on social media a certain economic status. I saw those things as the reward. You know, I could try to hide it if I want to, but those things were there, Bryce. And I think my encounter

and Israel kind of burned that out of me. Right? So like I was saying to you and your team, you know, because I really love what you're doing. I love the impact that you're having on the culture and you're so young. And I was saying to you off-camera how a lot of people, they start with a lot of fire and zeal, but they just don't finish well. So like when I was saying to you and your team, you know, it's very easy for your age with the level of influence that you have, the platform that you have, the gifting that you have, the anointing that you have. It's very easy for you to see opportunities as the reward, the right phone call, you know, the right bag, the right opportunity. to the right contract.

See, that's reward. And if those things are reward, then the devil could dangle carrots in front of you and lead you to compromise. But if the reward is outside of this life, if the reward is the cross, if reward is Christ himself, if the reward is the crown

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All right, enjoy the rest of the podcast. You know, I've talked about this thing in particular with my wife and like another guy in our team division. How long have you been married, bro? Two months, not even. You've been married for two months? Not even. Yo, congratulations, bro. Come on, man.

Come on. Come on, let's go. Congratulations, man. Thank you. Who finds a wife finds a good thing? He obtains favor from the Lord. That's right. Congratulations, man.

Hey, thank you. I appreciate that. I want to get, I'm going to get some marriage advice from you. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to throw it down on me. I'm only two months in, so it's whatever. But, you know, something that only my wife and another guy on our team DeVishev talked about was that materialistic thing that you saw, I was Tony off camera.

Like, I'm not going to lie. Like at the beginning, when you get into it, it does seem like, oh, that's the gift from God. So it's like, of course, the more money, the more opportunities and this. And then it was really like the past couple months, I started getting sobered. And I was like, that's not success. That's not success. And so then it really, what it's done to my heart, and I'm really having a hard time with this, it's made me so brokenhearted.

It makes me just want to say no to everything. Like that's what it makes me, it makes me want to say the total opposite. At first it was, I got to say yes to everything partially because it's, oh, well, opportunity is never going to come again. Of course it's from God. And then the shift change, and it's what was never about opportunity in the first place. Like, God, thank you that you have, like, given me strength to see that and know that. But now it makes me go like, it almost makes me have trust issues with people.

I'm like, do you really like care about me? Or do you, what do you want to me? I don't want to say no to that and that. And I don't want to, no, I don't want to, like, I don't want to show up and do that thing anymore or do that. It makes me just kind of want to, like, isolate. But how do you, and that's what I'm really wrestling with? It's like, how do you differentiate a no versus Satan trying to get you to shelter in and not do what God's call it? Yeah, I think this is an area.

growing in, right? I want to be fully transparent, right? I think there's an area still growing in. I think I've made a lot of mistakes in this area because I've been a local pastor for 13 years, but it's only in the last two years I've been itinerant in ministry, like traveling, speaking, things like that. And a lot of doors are opening to me right now. More doors than I could keep up with. Well, you were itinerant before, just people weren't inviting you. Right. They wasn't inviting me. Right. That's right. Same thing. My itinerant ministry was in the street.

Yeah. Right. Nobody was inviting me. But the doors that open to me now is more than I can imagine, right? Let's just you not be honest, right? And I think we've got no difference between a God door and a good door, right? When we have to choose between an evil door and a good door, that's an easy decision. The harder decision is between two doors that look good.

Yeah. And knowing like this is a God door, this is not door. So like, so I think for me, in the beginning of trying to, traveling I went a lot of places I don't know if every place I went I was supposed to go I didn't know the doors open I went right and now you know I travel so much I walk out the door so much I leave my family so much right I've seen him cry right seen him shed tears me leaving I've seen it had an effect on my family so for me now and for you I want to walk through the doors that the Holy Spirit wants me to walk through right I want to say yes to the things I need to say yes to.

And I think for you, I'm going to tell you, because it's very important for your generation, yeah, also, we have to learn the value of no. No is a very powerful word, right? When we don't use no, we'll become a slave to opportunities, right? We think we have to do everything. Then we develop a Jesus complex in which we think we are the end all,

the fixing the whole culture. And we've got to be careful with that. We've got to know Bryce has to know, Philip has to know, what is Bryce's assignment, what is Philip assignment's like? You remember when the Lord went down to the pool of Bethesda? I've been to the pool of Bethesda. Wow.

All right. And if you read the text very carefully, he's there during a feast. So that means Jerusalem would have swole in numbers. Normally there will be a handful of people hanging around that pool. But if we read the text right and we understand culture, it might have been a couple hundred people around that pool because it's happening during a feast. How many people did he heal that day? How many?

One, one man who had been near 38 years. Right? So now this is the way I study. I'm a pictorial person. So I'm putting myself in the text. So if you and I put ourselves in text, I mean Jesus went down to that pool and he had to step over people to get to that one man.

He had to walk past people to get to that one. Excuse me. Okay, pardon me. Excuse me, pardon me. He had to get around all those people to get to that one man. He heals how many people, that one man. Now, if he could he have healed more, maybe, we don't know.

The gospel writing give it to us. But what the gospel right did give is a pool full of sick people, and Jesus heals one man. His assignment that day was that one man, right? We got to have the same discipline to know what is our assignment and what is not. Every cry is not my assignment. Every open door is not my assignment. We have to have enough discipline in our own soul to not. be so platform driven to think that every door that opens I need to be on that

platform right so we got to have the like for example I don't know if I should say this on the podcast gosh man okay the current administration sent me an invite to be a part of the National Day of Prayer that's coming this year right there's a National Day of Prayer coming this year in the middle of the year they send me an invite to be a part of that day all right if I was was platform driven, I would immediately, as soon as the invite came, first day, I would have responded like, how could you say no? I'm from Queens.

Right? I'm a, I'm a dude from Queens with no real seminary education. The White House calls. You go. Right? But that's not what I did. I took that invite and I took it to our bread team. I took it to our staff.

I took it to my executive pastor who's here, and I put it before them, what do y'all think about this? Would you all join me in prayer about whether or not I should go? Because I know if I go, it's going to come at a price. Right? It's going to come at a cost, social persecution.

Right? And this would be like the highest invite in the land. In my flesh, I would just say, right? Who thinks twice? But because I have been so much, right? And because I've made mistakes, I had to remind myself, you listen to Bryce? I'm only a steward of my ministry.

All right. I will give an account for all of it. Right. So now when the invitations come, I have to pray over them. I take it to the prayer team, pray, right? If it's God's will, I go. If it's not as well, I can't go. And you and I have read this in the scriptures when Paul was busy going. And then one night he has a dream. God says, no, don't go over there. says no don't go over there go over here and he sees the man standing on Macedonia

watch this come over here and preach to us Paul wakes up from that dream watch he heads west towards Macedonia right he preaches in Macedonia in that area eventually he'll plant a church in that area of the world that church he planted was Philippa the first church planted on the European continent for that letter that he writes to the Philippians from prison, he's writing that letter to the first church planted on the European continent, and maybe that one church helping Christianity is spread West. We will never know. We can lean on the text just a little bit, right?

What if the Lord don't send him west? What if he goes the opposite direction? We don't know, right? Would you and I be seen here today in a world where Christianity is welcomed in the West? We don't know. So the point I'm trying to make to say all of that is, is we have to know our assignments. You have to know yours.

I got a new mind. And hours is to not run through every single door. Hours is to run through the doors that God intends for us to run through as we become a slave to opportunities. Pray for me too, Bryce, that God will help me make a decision, the right decision about whether or not I need to go. Absolutely. I will.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, that made me feel a lot more human too, because sometimes I know exactly what you mean. I've been in places where I'm like, I'm not supposed to be here right now. Like I know. I'm sitting there and I'm like, what am I doing here?

I'm not supposed to be here. And so thank you for saying that. Because sometimes I don't know about you, make you feel a little crazy. You know, oh, should I have done? Should I backtrack? I'm sorry. Like, you know, get in that position.

But you mentioned your family, and that was the advice I wanted to ask you, was, hey, I'm so encouraged by you. and your wife, like, every time I see a sprinkle or a glimpse on social media, I'm like, man, they love each other, and I love it. But you also mentioned it, and I think this has been the hardest thing, like, it costs. Like, you have to count the cost when you leave. You have to count the cost. Like, you know, we're on our tour right now, and Maddie and I prayed, and we knew

that we were counting the cost, but, like, I've been away for almost a little under two weeks. And that was hard, and it was challenging. And Satan was coming our way. And Satan was coming our way. with many different things and having a different time zones and talk and figure it out and being away and long days and late nights and now we got to see each other this morning and it was beautiful she here she's she's on her way okay cool yeah she we went to church this morning but you know I I think that how do you guys count the cost in marriage like how do you guys do ministry and marriage how do you make time for your family and at the same time walk out what God's called you to do everything you say yes to something else is going to suffer. So I think the longer you're married and do ministry, your yes has got to be more calculated. All right.

The first seven years in my marriage was bad. It was very tough. A lot of fights. You know, threatening each other with divorce on all the things, right? Our first seven years was not good, was bad. I would take the blame for most of it. 95% of it.

I was very selfish and mature. And so I almost lost my wife, right? I think having her right now really have a second chance. She being with me, I feel like it's a second chance. My ministry's a second chance. I've been married now over 21 years, right? So you're two months in, I'm two decades in, right? I think the beauty of my wife, Lena, I love her because Lena's one of the most godliest, virtuous, wise, humble women I've ever known.

Right? She's changed my life. and she is a ride or die, right? She understands the bigger picture, and she understands where our rewards are going to be, right? And so for her, she did something that was very liberating for me, and I pray your wife would do this for you, right? Lena would say to me, when I have to leave to go do stuff,

she would say, go do what you got to do, man of God. I'll be here when you get back home. You go out there and preach God's word, and I'm going to hold down this front. Essentially, we're both doing ministry, because I have children. I'm out there preaching. She's at home, disciple, on our kids. And she allowed me the freedom to go do God's work.

She never made me choose between her and God. She never boxed me into a corner like that. She would always tell me, do you feel like God has called you to do this? She has, go do it. I'll be here when you get back, right? She's never put pressure on me for money. She's never put pressure on me in terms of what home we live in, what we drive.

She's never put pressure on me in terms of what she wears. She's never put pressure on me in terms of like the scope of our ministry to decide. She's never, ever put that pressure on me. The only thing my wife wants for me is just she wants in terms of my ministry, she wants me to be faithful. She wants to know that I'm hearing from God. But I'm not hearing from God. She and I have a problem.

She's going to come from me. She wants to know. So if I tell her, I feel like God is saying, she'd be like, are you sure? Like yes, okay, then let's do that. So she's always giving me the freedom to go and do what God is calling me to do. And she's, I'll be here when you get back. I'll hold down this front.

Right. So that has been a blessing to me. I know that's not every man's story. Right. For some men, I know a brother right now who is, he lives in a prison. He could barely do God's ministry. Every time he's going to do something, his wife makes him feel guilty for doing that. And so it's constantly a battle between his spouse and God. And I feel sorry for men to have to deal with that. I pray for them. It's a very difficult situation to be. I'm fortunate. That's not my challenge. Lena's very gracious, right? because she understands the bigger picture, right? And so for me, I never had an issue there,

the bigger issues with my children. God willing, you'll have some, right? And I learned a painful lesson of being too busy to the point that they were suffering. So I was sitting in my office one day, and I'd seen a pink piece of paper in the trash can, and I don't write on pink paper, right? Like, I use yellow legal pads.

So I'm like, who put this pink paper on my trash can? I'm like, what the, where's this pink paper come from my trash can? So everything around me, I keep clean. Like, I'm aesthetically, like, I'm a clean dude. Organize everything. Like, my car, my offices, everything is immaculate. It's just the way I am anal about that. I don't know.

Oh, I got OCD in that area. So I noticed that piece of paper in the trash can and that pink one because nobody was in this office but me and I went and got that pinks of paper out of the trash can. And I opened it up. And it was my daughter, Israel. And she wrote on there, she said, I love Jesus. And I love our church. And I love my dad, but I don't see him, though.

And she put a big sad face with tears coming out to sad face. Oh, my goodness. Right. And my heart was devastated. Right. In that moment, I was so broken. Like, man, I was so busy doing work. And not really my kids are suffering on the inside from my absence.

So I had to make a pivot. Right. And the pivot I made was that I'm going to create a type of schedule in which my family time is always scheduled. They have days that belongs to them and I don't let nothing encroach on our days. Not ministry, not meetings. I will walk out of a meeting. If my family calls me, I will walk out of a meeting. If my family needs me, I will call our team.

I'm not coming in today. My family needs me, right? If I have to choose between my kid performing at high school. on me going to a preaching engagement, I would turn down a preaching game to make sure I'm sitting in the audience to hear my kids sing. So that day I had to make a decision

that some way, somehow, I want my kids to leave my home and not hate Jesus on the way out. So I have built in rhythms, family rhythms, right, in which this is their day, this is their time. And those are sacred to me.

I will not answer the phone. I don't check emails. I'm not going to break that rhythm unless it's an emergency. But there's still a question. cost to pay every time I leave the door to hop on a plane to go somewhere. They understand that their father has been called to itinerate ministry, so they give me grace. But I don't mean they don't feel that. I just think now they're a little bit more gracious because they understand.

They're older. They're teenagers. And some of them are young men and women. I have a 21-year-old, Bryce. Oh, wow. Did you know that, bro? You could be my son. Dang.

I feel like you're my dad. Yeah, right. I got a 21-year-old. He's a beast. His name is Malachi. He's preaching. He plays instruments. If your name is Malachi, he's.

His name is my. He's a beast. Bring that heat. Right, I got a 21 year. I got a 20 year old. That's Israel. Yeah, I got a 20 year old. I got another 20 year old in my house.

I got a 16 and 13. Right. So they're a little bit more forgiving now. But the one who makes up the difference is Lena. Wow. When I'm gone, she'll take them out for ice cream. They go to restaurants. She'll fill that gap to try to push back against the void.

They feel the void, but she tried to fill that space. Right. So you and your wife, what's her name mattie maddie right one thing's going to be very important for you and maddie beginning to have agreement right to just be in agreement about the scope of your ministry which is big the scope of your calling which is big right you have a a generational calling brys let's just be honest right you have a a generational calling god's hand is on you in a very mighty mighty way it's obvious that his favor is on his life and it's on his life and

It's obvious he's raising up your voice to be a voice in this generation. That is, only a fool cannot see that, right? So churches are going to call, cities are going to call, nations are going to call. And if you and Maddie not in agreement, it's going to take a toll on your marriage. So you got to make sure from the beginning you and Maddie having conversations about this, that she understands the bigger picture of eternity, the bigger picture of your call. She needs to understand your calling so she can part. with you and your calling so she doesn't make herself competition between you and God so when

you say babe I feel like God is telling me I have to go here mad it says to you I don't know what she calls you go ahead babe you go do God's work I'll be here when you get home as long as you're out to an agreement you can survive travel and distance I just got to be an agreement that makes sense wow it's so good yeah I'm encouraged yeah I didn't want to be the guy that was like you could be my dad but like hey Hey, I like it. I'm about it, Bryce. Hey, I pray, thank you, thank you.

Thank you. I'm not your son, but Malachi, chapter four, that scripture talks about the hearts of fathers turning back to sons. Yeah, man. And the sons turning back to fathers. Like, that rocked me to the core. Yeah, man. You know, I spent so much of my life when I was 17.

I was serving at any conference I could get my hands on. I'd pass the tide bucket around. I'd be in the green room, you know, serving in there, whatever it may be. And I met so many leaders. I tried to latch on. on to so many fathers, so many fathers. Like, man, this is it, this is it.

And it never, it never happened until, until a dude from Ohio named Marcus, come, he said, he let me come travel with him. I traveled with him for a year. Yeah. And, uh, and that scripture has rocked me to the core. That's beautiful.

And that's why I'm grateful for like fathers like you, you know, because you, you make, you make my generation feel empowered. Yeah. You know, like, walk this faith out. Yeah.

Because so, so, you talked about it earlier, like so many dudes want to die with the baton. They don't want to pass it on. Yeah. And if I didn't have a Marcus in my life and we didn't have guys like you in our life, then we would feel the same way. We would feel like, well, I want to die with this baton. Yeah.

And I think that's beautiful, man. I commend you for that. Well, I appreciate you. No, man. Listen, you need to hear me say this, bro. That's highly commendable that you did that. That's so commendable that you did that. If serving is beneath you, then leadership is above you.

I started out just like you. I was cleaning toilets and listening to music, worship music. I had joy doing that, bro. I was loving Jesus and just cleaning toilets, being a janitor at my church, you know, cleaning stuff. And I had so much joy just serving anybody I can serve, but also looking for fathers. Right? And I think this is like the most fatherless generation in the world in history. Yeah.

Right. I remember when I was a school teacher, like 75% of my kids. kids had no dads no fathers right and I think that's a plot we don't have time to get into that but I definitely think that's a plot of the enemy so when people come into a relationship with God it's hard to connect with him as a father yeah right but the fact that you were serving serving serving serving and looking for fathers there are people watching right now they feel the same way yeah and they want mentors and here's what we do Bryce I need to say this to your audience I'm sure a lot of your audience of Gen Zs and millennials there's a lot of them who have a right desire for

mentorship that is a godly desire yeah for coaching there's nothing wrong with that but what they do is they see people who are famous or people they like and they automatically say that is the mentor I need no so we try to manufacture our own mentors based on platform and what we see not knowing that person might be toxic on the other side of that camera the best mentors are the ones that God divinely places in your life because God knows you personally he knows your issues and your hangups, he knows your heart breaks, your qualms. He knows the difficult part of you and the beautiful part of you. So God is very fashion mentors that are tailor made for Bryce.

So I think mentorship is best when it is divine. When God supernaturally causes you to cross paths with people and you feel a divine connection with that person. And they have a genuine interest in you that has nothing to do with taking something from you. And it could be a person that don't nobody know their name yeah right don't nobody know the name but there are people that god is fashion for you and so i would say that even people watch it right now we all need mentors we all need coaches but we need the ones that god intends for us to have yeah i think a lot of us just see famous people and say this is the mentor i need no why you don't even know what that person's character is like yeah all you see is platform you see leaves but you don't you don't even know if they got fruit

and there's some people we admire and coaching if you got close to them you wouldn't like them right you wouldn't like them and so and so no we don't need mentors because they're famous we need the people god intends for us to have in our lives you understand i'm saying i agree right and so and so i would i would i would say to you i'm so thankful to hear that you was a faithful servant you sowed seeds of servant servanthood you're reaping a harvest for being a great servant but then god brought a man into your life to be a father to you does he have a mega platform I mean he's a I'm not not really not at the time we met he did the whole world know his name at the time no no we met it we met at a conference I was

serving at yeah but he was tailor made for you yeah right and and so I think that's what more of the generation is to encourage a generation to not just run after people who they think they need but run after people got intents for them to be in their lives yeah we we should pray mentors into our life and not just try to latch on to people because we think fill in the blank. That makes sense? Yeah. It makes a lot of sense.

Yeah. I want to shift on prayer really quick. And then I want to talk a little bit about end times. I think that's so important to talk about. I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, we need to know, but it's like fun to talk about. With prayer, I mean, you're a man of prayer. Prayer is an essential, not just, I mean, it shouldn't be just an essential to your life. It should be an essential to the Christian life.

And I'm going to get really vulnerable here. Like, I love to pray for people. I love to pray. Right. I'm going to be completely honest. Like sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall past. Yeah. Like, do you ever even have those moments, even though that you have cultivated this intimate, this deeply intimate communication line with God?

Yeah. Do you still have those days where you feel like you're talking to the wall? I do. I think I'm having that moment right now. Wow. Right. You know, our church is in the middle of, like, you know, property searches and major projects. I'm seeking God for guidance right now

and I'm not getting anything like just crystal clear right? Crystal clear. So even right now, having walked with Jesus since 2003, right now I'm in a season where I'm praying about things and I'm not getting a clear answer. It almost feel like it's bouncing off the ceiling. And I think we go through that.

And I think the beauty in that, Bryce, is that God teaches us to trust him even when we can't trace him and to be faithful even when we can't figure out what he's doing. I think if every time we prayed we got an immediate answer, it would be too easy. I think sometimes when it feels like he's not listening or when it feels like he's leaving us in a little bit of a fog, I think he's still cultivating something in our character and perfecting our faith to just keep trusting him, even when we can't trace him all the way.

Right. And so there are major decisions I'm trying to make right now for our ministry. When I say major, I mean major, major decisions that if I'm not. make a mistake they could be catastrophic. Financially, spiritually, all the things. And I'm before God every day. And I'm still not getting clarity on all these things. So what do I do in the meantime?

I keep doing what I know to do. I keep being faithful. So I think there are times when we all go through that. I think if we say we've never been through that, there might be a little bit of pride there. I think all of us go through seasons where we feel like God, are you listening? But I think in those seasons, he's still just as close.

He's near. He never forsakes us. I just think he's perfecting us. I said to somebody the other day I'm so glad you asked this question I said to somebody the other day somebody was asking me this the other day about them feeling distant from God

and whether or not God was still close I said I said yo bro when my kids was real little I would take them to the park and when it was like maybe six seven I would let them wander a little bit further away from me and the park would be real big

but I just let them wander right and they'll get so far away from me I could see them looking around the kids and they don't know where I'm at but I'm sitting on the bench but I'm watching them from a distance where they are they think they can't, I'm nowhere around

and I see them looking around where I'm not but I'm saying right where I'm never left I got my eye on them even though they can't see me I'm watching them if anybody ran up on them I'll be there if I seen a dog come in I'm there I got my eye on them from a distance

even though they can't, it's crowded in the parks and now I see them looking for me in the field they can't find me but I never left I'm still in the same place I was when they started walking. So even when children get far away, even when they feel like God is far away, they can't see him,

he's still in the same place he was when they started wandering on the throne. Never leave, never forsaken. When he's ready, he can shout loud enough. I can yell out, Malachi, Israel, come back over here. It's time to go home now. They'll look around. Oh, Daddy, there you are. And they make a beeline for me.

But I never left. So even when God feels distant, he's still in the same place. Wow. He's still watching. He's still just got their eye on them. And when he's ready, he'll shout. And when he's ready, he'll talk. And when he's ready, you're here and out here.

And we make a B-line for him. Either to come back if we're far or say, now I know what to do. So I could shout at Malachi. All right, come on. It's time to go now. That's come back. You too far. Oh, Malachi, get off of that swing and get on the other one. That's an instruction.

So even when he's far away, he could break the silence whenever he's ready and either give us an instruction or tell us come back home. Wow. But he never left where he was. Dang. That's so good. Wow. Yeah, I think, you know, I heard a Billy Graham quote one time where he was like, oftentimes when he don't feel God there.

That's when he's the closest to you. He never left. He's right there. I love that analogy. That's so good. Yeah, he never left. And I think people feel that distance too, especially with the end time stock. Oh, we all do.

And the thick end. And, I mean, shoot, bro. We're in war right now. It's crazy. Bro, listen, we're in a war right now that's escalating, and you've got end-time nations who are flirting whether or not to get involved in this war. Like, can we talk honest?

Like, right now, as you and I recording, the U.S. is in war with Iran. Yep. But then you have end-time nations that are flirting with getting involved in this war, like Russia, like China. China's mentioned in the Old Testament, is mentioned in the scriptures.

Russia, these nations geographically where they are mentioned in the scriptures as end-time nations. They're flirting and getting involved with this war, right? I think any time Israel's at war, we should be paying attention. Anytime there's conflict in the Middle East, the believer should be paying attention.

Because you read the scriptures than I do, right? The scripture tells us there's a man coming. The scripture calls a man of sin, the Antichrist. he's going to be a political figure. I believe he's going to be handsome, well-spoken, right? I believe I know what religion he's going to be a part of. He's going to emerge. And the scripture says, when he comes, he will sign a seven-year peace treaty with Israel.

There is no need for a peace treaty if there's not war, right? There is no need for a peace treaty if there is no war. The Antichrist has nothing to sign if there's no conflict in the Middle East. So whenever there's major conflict in the Middle East, at least in our generation, we should be paying attention to that. Right? Because watch, there must be conflict for him to bring that treaty. Right? I wouldn't even be surprised if he's alive right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's working his way through the political ranks. I wouldn't be surprised if he's in college somewhere. You can feel his spirit in the earth, that anti-Christ spirit. I would not be surprised if he was alive right now. right but anytime there's conflict in that part of the world that region of the world we should be paying attention because the man of sin is going to rise with that peace treaty for israel that means israel and that part of the world has to be in conflict for that to happen it's part of end-time prophecy so no one who's a believer who reads the scriptures should be

surprised that there's conflict in that part of the world what we should be doing is do we have oil in our lamps would be like the virgins who are ready or the virgins who are not yeah the people who sit in church every Sunday and not ready and the ones who are. The ones who have an Issaqar type spirit and the ones who don't, right? So we need to be like the sons of Issaqar, those who rightly discern the times, and we know what to do about it. Yeah. You just have too many believers that are not discerning the times.

Yeah. They're going to church, but they're blind. Yeah. Going to conference is blind. Reading devotion is blind. They're not paying attention to what's happening right now. I think we're living in the last days of the church age. That's my personal opinion.

Yeah. I think time is running out. That's why every place I go Every city I go every country I tell the believers in that room Time is running out And we need to echo that We need more people who keeps

Time is running out Time is running out We don't have that much time left Bryce We are living You watch sports Oh yeah You like football? I love football Okay

It's the fourth quarter We got three minutes left to go Right and we're down by seven Yeah That's the urgency we need right now Wow Yeah, I agree. I think yeah, you know, a lot of people, they want to say, oh, I've seen it so much on social media. They talk about, oh, when you talk about the end times, it's fearmongering.

It's ain't fearmongering. It gives me an urgency every time when I think, oh, shoot, tomorrow could be the day that Jesus comes back. Or we're in the think of it or you see, you see missiles fired in the Middle East. You see this. I mean, especially with technology, I don't think AI is inherently bad, but things are getting so real right now. You can't even tell the difference. I saw a video of a panther jumping through a window. I thought it was real. Me too, it was fake.

And I'm like, yo, what the heck is going on? Me too, bro. This is actually insane. And I'm like so, it's so wild to me. But, you know, I think one of the reasons that why I think that my generation struggles to grasp the end times because they put so much hope in tomorrow. A couple of things you said is so profound. Can we walk through some of the stuff you just?

Yeah, we can't. Let's just go backwards, right? Let's go backwards, right? AI is a dope tool, but I think AI is going to be part of the end-time prophecy, right? Even when the scripted tells us in Revelation, when the Antichrist come, he sets up an image of himself in the temple. And that image talks, and it blasphemes God. And it causes people to worship, like, a talking image instead of a hologram. Is it AI?

I mean, a talking image. AI is gonna have a lot to do with that. Right? AI is gonna deceive a lot of people on social media. I've seen a video on me preaching somebody's church I never been to. Right? It's crazy. I was standing behind the pulpit, right? Like, I was standing behind the pool.

I saw it on TikTok, bro. Like, it was like, oh, we didn't know PAM get down with someone. So like, I seen a video on me on TikTok standing behind somebody's pool pit preaching with a pastor right next to me. And I'm like, I never even met this man. Right? It's like, I never even been there. And that's not a knock on the man or the church. I'm just saying I've never been there, right?

It's crazy. I see whole AI stuff with me saying, I've seen a dude make an AI video of me saying that I was his mentor. And it was my voice. You remember this? You remember this? It was my voice saying, this is my mentee. I affirm him. I want everybody to come to his church this Sunday.

Sent on my couch in my home office with my voice. and so we man we had to we had to you remember that and we had the home office we had we had to get out we had to get out that dude you know what I'm saying anyway so so I think AI is gonna

AI is gonna play a major a major role in end times there's no there's no doubt about it but I want then let's digress to what you said next you said a lot of people think that if you preach about the end times you are a fanmonger and like okay yeah okay people need to read Bryce

I agree Okay, right We need to read, right? Yeah Okay Didn't Paul teach about the end times? All the time Right

Did not Jesus talk about the end times? All the time And they was doing that in the first century Right Now Now Okay If Paul

And Jesus and the apostles Talked Preach Wrote about end times With warnings Very strong In the first century How much more

Should we be doing that now We have less time than they did. They're preaching end times to people that lived 2,000 years ago. Yeah. Right? You and I are over 2,025 years removed from the resurrection of Christ. Yeah. Should you and I and our generation not be talking about the end times with more veracity and intensity and urgency now because we have left time?

It's like you said you like football. Yeah. Okay? Okay. The coach gives you a speech before the game. me give you another one a half time but it's fourth quarter

and you're losing you don't think that speech is going to intensify should anybody say to the coach now you can't encourage us in the fourth quarter to be serious now like nobody's going to think that

yeah right so I would say to believers I want to say this on camera right you and I never met before it's the first time we met right

right but I'm sure you've talked a lot about end times on your platform oh yeah and on your social media pages yeah and so have I yeah but we never met that's right we never prayed together that's right we've never been in the same room together but you've talked about that in times probably a lot so have I that burden is in you

amen you're feeling that when you pray yeah okay but who you feel with Holy Spirit yeah who's in me Holy Spirit right so maybe God is echoing in the culture do anybody that will listen wow this is one of what my bride paying attention to Why is Bryce talking about the end times? The Holy Spirit is leading him to do that? Why is Philip talking about the end times? The Holy Spirit leading him to do that.

Why is John over here talking about the end times? Maybe we're not trying to fear monger. Maybe we're hearing what we need to say. Because maybe God is trying to use any willing, non-compromising, not afraid, non-punk voices to speak the truth. Because when God speaks, he echoes. And maybe what people are hearing in the culture

is the warning of God. my sons, my daughters, wake up. Y'all don't have that much time left. And I'm using every available voice to sound an alarm in the country, in the world. Y'all need to be on mission. I am coming and I am coming very soon. So maybe we're not fairmongering. Maybe we're doing what's supposed to do because God is trying to awaken his bride.

Well, I agree. I mean, can you imagine? Like, we talk about, like, we get like five hate comments and everyone's like, oh, the end times is going down. But then like, Jesus just utters this spirit and it's like completely dark. The veil tears and an earthquake goes down. Come on, bro. I just preach that last week.

Did you really? Yeah, I just preach that text last week. I'm just thinking about that right now. Like, imagine those guys, they probably like thinking all hell's about to break loose right there. I mean, it did, but, you know, they're freaking out. I'd be freaking out too. Yeah. Yeah.

Darkness, temple, you know, temple shatters, earthquake, the veil tears. There's all that. It's craziness, right? Yeah. But I just think God is echoing. I agree. I think he's trying to get us on mission. I think the Lord is trying to pull the bride out of apathy and out of being indifferent, right? And so, you know how Jesus says no man knows the day, no the hour?

But what if we did? What if you and I knew that in 2030, in October of 2030, that was going to be the end of the church age as we knew it? and we knew that verifiably from heaven would they be mocking us for talking about the end times some people will but more people probably saying that I need to start getting my life together yeah right and God didn't give us that day he just gave us like things we can see in the seasons

like when the leaves start falling off the tree you know it's falling winter's coming yep the leaves are falling off the tree bro right we're seeing things on the news that's coming right out of the pages of the scripture yeah right you have to be really blind right now not to realize that we're closer to the end. So the leaves are falling off the tree. And that's why Jesus used to always say the same, Bryce.

Those who have ears to hear, let them hear. That's everybody will not hear. They just have to suffer the consequence for not being prepared. Wow. You know, we just got to try to get as many people prepared as possible. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I, my brother Keenan and I were talking about the end times. I heard him preach this thing out of Revelation one time, right me to the core. And it moved me so much. I sat on it for a little bit. And I was like, it gave me that new, this like new profound urgency.

He was talking about Revelation 20, how God's going to wipe away every tear. Yep. And he was saying how his interpretation was, you know, we're going to watch our loved ones and our family members, you know, five verses before that, God casts every non-believer into hell. Verses 11 through 15. And then he wipes away every tear.

Yes. And he's like, you know, you don't think that we're going to watch our loved ones and family members be cast in the hell. And that's the last time we cry. Yeah. And that's the last little bit of weeping and hashing of teeth and suffering. Yeah. And gosh, when I heard that and I read it, I mean, it's one thing to hear it. You know, faith comes by hearing.

I'm like, yeah, wow. Yeah. But that stirred me. And I like went to the scripture. I was like, oh my gosh. It's right there, verse 11 through 15. It's real. the white throne judgment and for that reason I I pray with tears for people who are not

safe beginning with my own family you know I'm not sure there's a week that goes by do not shed tears and prayers for everyone I know who's not safe every friend every family member I'm covering my children I want to make sure they all make it I think if men knew how graphic eternal separation from God is how graphic hell is gonna be which is temporary. The last place would be the lake of fire. That's what we know according to Revelation chapter 20. If men knew how graphic that was

and that the fact that it's eternal, I think we would care more about people who are not saved. You know, I say this to my church all the time because I'm trying to give them like, you know people read the Bible, but they don't think about what they're reading. You know how the scripture says after Judas committed suicide,

he was the son doomed for perdition, so we know that Judas didn't make it to glory. Right? I say this to my church all the time. I said, what year did that happen? It was around AD 33, around the year Christ died. That means if we take the scriptures for what it is, that means Judas would have been there for two millennia,

and he'll be there for another two millennia, and another two, and another two. And then if we take everything, Jesus said that the worm doesn't die, men gnash their teeth for pain, they're chewing their tongue, they're conscious of their suffering, And they're not going to get out. You know how tormented is to be in a place separated from God? Now you're separated from his grace,

his love, his mercy, his blessing, glory. You're tormented. You have a body fit for destruction. Wow. You're in darkness. You feel the fire. But you're never going to get out. There is no reprieve.

There is no purgatory. There's no second chance. when we think about how graphic that is in terms of suffering and then we think about how long it's going to last forever and if we just some way somehow wrap our minds around the graphic nature of everyone who dies separated from God and what that person is going to endure forever if a person would sit down long enough to think about the nature of that

that level of sentencing, they might start praying for people they know who are far away from God. They will probably start supporting ministries that are serious about the spread of the gospel. They will probably say, you know what, a part of my money, a part of my check has to support churches,

Bryce Ministries, has to support ministries that's serious about telling people by Jesus. They might start praying for aunts and uncles and parents and they might start thinking about people who are walking around who they know, who don't know God, especially since we know do you know when you're going to die Bryce?

No. Do I know? No. Last week in my church, a young man was headed to our ministry. He was 20, 22 years of age, died in a motorcycle crash on his way to 2019.

That week with his family. We did a memorial for them on stage. He was a believer, so we know where he is. What if he wasn't? Yeah. be right next to Judas at 22 and not getting out and does anybody know when their last day is no but you got people to hear the gospel invitation all the time and push away I'll get right next week

how do you know you're gonna have next week I've done funerals for teenagers babies adults I've know teenagers that died and car crashes right that's the whole thing like you and I see it tomorrow You got plans to go be with your wife later? You got plans to do stuff tomorrow? We know we're going to see tomorrow. We don't. But for you or not, we got assurance. You're going to pillow your head.

You're going to lay in your pillow tonight. You got assurance. Something happened to tonight. You know where you're going to be. What about your cousin that don't know Jesus? Or the person watching right now, grandmama that don't know Jesus. That's what they say in the South Brice.

Grandmama. I'm from New York. So I'll say grandmother. But no, I'm being serious. Right? And the Lord described these things in graphic detail. Yeah. How about when he told the story of Lazarus and a rich man? I was just about to bring that up.

How about that, right? Tell a story of a poor man, a rich man, they both die. One goes to glory, the other one goes to hell. Yeah. And watch. And from hell, he cries out for water. Yeah. Get nothing.

Go tell my family that this place is real. No, we will not. They got the prophets. They don't want to listen to the prophets in this life. They're going to end up in the same place as you. And he's conscious that he's not. going to get out. Yeah.

Right. So I think if more of us, if more of us thought about what that's going to be like for family members and friends at the job, when the gym, people we say we love.

Yeah. And more of us thought about how horrific is going to be for people to die apart from Christ. It's like jumping out of an airplane with no parachute.

Right? Like if we thought about what that's going to be like for people to wake up on the other side of death without the righteousness of Christ. We might just pray a little bit different. We might labor a little bit different. We might care a little bit different. We might be a little bit more faithful. We might be a little bit more

generous. And it's not just my worry, right? I think where we are Christians, we should all be concerned about people who are far away from God, right? Yeah. It's going to be horrific. an amount of people who are entering eternity apart from grace. Bro, I'll be in an Uber. I'll be praying for the Uber driver having conversations. I was in the Uber with a driver who was a Muslim. We got into a conversation about Jesus. He was very gracious.

We had a good intellectual conversation about Christ, and he was open, and I was open. It was a good conversation, bro. I did not convert him, but I did leave a seed. for him right that the Holy Spirit come behind me and water that seat yeah we're sitting in the uber with the unbelieber right in front of us you know a conversation a prayer anything yeah it's going to be a awful and dreadful day when that great right though and judgment comes and you know who's going to be worse for bryce not not the atheist bryce it's going to be worse for

the person that been in church their whole life yeah and thought they were Christian Matthew 7. Lord, many will come to me on that day and say, Lord, Lord, did we not prophes in your name? Go to conferences in your name, and I went to church in your name, and I went to a Christian school in your name and all that. The atheists don't call them Lord, Bryce, right?

The Muslim is not calling them Lord. The Hindu's not calling them Lord. The people are calling them Lord of people who think that they are okay with God. And that's going to be the person I feel the most sorry for. Yeah. It's painful, bro It is painful

And I think, you know, I'm just thinking back Gospel of Luke, Jesus He says, the harvest is ripe That's the craziest words ever The odds are in our favor as believers But the labor was a few Not enough people do it The harvest is right

And that's why I'm grateful for Bold voices and fathers like you who are willing to stir the pot in a good way, like stir believers' hearts to say, hey, let's go throat punch the devil. John the Baptist said the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, but the violent take it by force.

So I'm grateful for voices like yours. You know, it's necessary. Even if it comes with persecution, it's necessary. Yeah. Right. When I think about your voice, you know, I've kind of like tried to tap and, you know, I followed you back on IG,

so I'm kind of tapping and watching what you're doing. When I hear you talk, you know what I hear? I hear, I hear Colossians 128, right? Him we proclaim. Watch the first word. Warning everyone. That's what Paul wrote to Church of Colossi. Him we proclaim, right?

And the first thing he says, warning everyone. And then teaching everyone with all wisdom that we may present everyone. Mature before Christ so I was just to warn and to teach right not just to teach There's a lot of teaching out there yeah none of warning and we can't just warn and not teach Yeah, the culture needs both that's what I hear in your voice warning and teach that's what Paul told us to do and we proclaim preach Christ One teach that's what we're supposed to be doing proclaiming warning teaching proclaiming warning teaching proclaiming warning teaching proclaiming warning teaching Proclaiming warning teaching. That's what the culture needs.

That's what I hear in your voice. Your voice is needed. Proclaiming, warning, teaching. Everybody wants teaching. They don't want no warning. Right? They love that, the stuff that make them feel, oh, the proclamation and the teaching. Oh, they love that.

Nobody don't want to be warned. Yeah. But that's what Paul said. Proclaim, warn, teach. We need all three. Yeah. The one in the middle people don't like. Yeah.

They don't like that one, Bryce. They don't like that one, Bryce. I would really love for you to pray for our audience to close it out for like a new, a fresh boldness. Yeah. That believers can listen to this and that they hear the heart behind it. And they're like, no, be sent. Like go and be bold for that. Would you be willing to pray for him?

Yeah. Thank you, bro. For having me on your platform. I enjoy talking to you, man. I enjoy talking to you. Thank you. My man, bro. Let's pray.

Eternal God and a wise Father. Bryce and I give you glory and honor and praise and homage for who you are. And Bryce and I thank you. That when we was both in darkness and your mercy and your compassion, you kept us alive. Long enough that you would rescue us from that darkness and bring us into the kingdom of light. And that you've anointed us now to be voices in this darkness. And we want to always be thankful for that. Father, I want to pray for the person listening to this podcast right now watching whoever they are, wherever they are.

First God, I pray for the believer. that you would remind the believer of the price that your son paid for them on the cross, that they would see what Christ had done from the cross, and they would turn away from the cross and live a life of complete surrender unto you. I pray you would cause them to love the things that you love and to hate the things that you hate. I pray you give them a ferocious desire for holiness and for purity and for the kingdom. I pray God you will set them on. fire you deliver them from being lukewarm and from being indifferent and full of apathy and lethargy

and pride i pray you would open their blinded eyes that they would see what is happening in the culture and that their hearts will be burned like your prophet Isaiah i pray god you would give them an isaqarian anointing god that they would see what is happening god and they will be moved to do something about it i pray you would awaken the bride wherever she is in united states in the u.k across the continent of Africa and around the world. I pray you set the bride on fire and help our Lord to be on mission in these final hours of the church age. Deliver us, God, from vices and chains that have us bound from ambitions and things that are ancillary that seem noble and things that are sinful and deceitful in the dark. Let us be a bride full of character and integrity and holiness and purity

and full of fire and on mission for you. I pray that for the brother or sister. who's watching right now awaken your sons and daughters and burn them in their hearts like you did Isaiah and Father we pray for the unbeliever right now that they would tremble under the weight of the gospel that they would know they are sinners and they are far away from you and I pray right now they will feel the nudging of the Holy Spirit willing them to repent and to surrender their life to the Lord Jesus Christ we pray for the salvation of the person who's watching we pray for the salvation of family members and friends. We pray the gospel will go out to the whole world

and reap a harvest God in these final days of the church age. May the Lamb who was slain, receive the rewards of his suffering. Let revival break out around the world. I pray for my brother Bryce, my little brother in the faith, that you would bless his ministry to prosper and to thrive and to be fruitful. And you continue to elevate him as an end-time voice,

to proclaim, to warn, to teach. Bless his marriage, his wife. Keep them in all of your ways. I ask all of this, God, in the mighty and the majestic, in the matchless name of our soon-coming king, the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.