The Bryce Crawford Podcast - Luke Belmar Made Millions. Then God Humbled Him. (EP 212)

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

Luke Belmar Made Millions. Then God Humbled Him. (EP 212) ...

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Starting point is 00:01:01 Those people are losers. If Jesus is that, that's not real. I got a message from a billionaire, $65 million, telling me how he hasn't left the house in 10 years. Because he has a broken relationship with his wife. He is a man that is in prison. Yet he has billions. It doesn't matter what position you're in. If you don't have the love of Jesus, then you are not fulfilled.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I go from waiting tables to becoming a world-renowned name, making millions of dollars in business. I stood there in the palaces and in the mansions, and I looked at these people and I said, they have money, but they don't have the truth. to the top and I was like, this is empty. There's nothing. This was a joke. God said, No more business, Luke. I said, okay, what should I do? Said, have faith. The old man had to die, had to be crucified and the new man had to be born. I decided to give everything to God. My money, my resources, everything. A story that the internet has never heard. Hey, before we get into today's episode, I want to share two quick things with you. First, if these videos have meant anything to you, if they've encouraged your faith or helped you see the gospel a little bit more
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Starting point is 00:02:24 This is going to be a night centered around worship, faith, real conversations, and genuine community. I believe God is going to move in a powerful way and I would love for you to be in the room. are on sale right now, you can head to bricecroffer.org slash tour or just click the link in the description below. And please only get your tickets through my official site or that link below. I recommend not buying from random resellers online. I believe this is going to be a really special night and I hope to see you there. All right, let's get into the episode. What's going on guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford podcast. I'm Bryce and today I'm here with a very special guest. I'm
Starting point is 00:02:56 honored sit down with it. We got Luke Belmar with us. How are you, brother? Dude, I'm doing well. How are you? Good. Thank you for having me. It is. beautiful to be back in LA. I know why people live in LA. Amazing weather, amazing food, organic food. It's great. It's great. Now, would you ever live in LA again? No, it's the city of the fallen angels. So you wouldn't, where you wouldn't live here? Is there anywhere else on the planet that you would like to live? I live in my body. So I am comfortable anywhere. Great. Well, I'm super excited. I got a ton of questions for you. But really kind of start off. I want to know your origin. I mean, for people that do know you or don't know you, can you kind of give us a little
Starting point is 00:03:35 bit of background on who you are and what life was like growing up? So every podcast that I've done before this has usually been about business, entrepreneurship, finance, and it has been a podcast about trying to tell people about the material things of the world that they need to solve. But I've never actually told my story. Usually the person that sits, the interviewer has an agenda, they have a narrative, they have something that they're trying to scheme. But you as a brother in Christ, this is the first time that I'm actually able to sit down with somebody who worships the same Messiah. So I'll tell you my story. A story that the internet has never heard.
Starting point is 00:04:12 My name is Lucas. They call me Luke. It's easier in English. I was born in El Salvador, Central America. My parents were missionaries in communist Cuba before they were kicked out by the government. Whoa. For preaching and for teaching. and then they moved to El Salvador where I was born in a breadbasket.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And my parents were ministering to people there in the gangs and the favelas. And if you understand a little bit of El Salvador, which is where I was born, it was a very tumultuous place. It got so scary at gunpoint. My parents were threatened that they had to leave the country. So they went to my father prayed and he was like, where should I go? and the Lord told him Spain, which at the time was the witchcraft capital of Europe. And the atheist capital of Europe. And they went and they ministered there for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Now I say I'm from Argentina, you'll never hear me say I was born in Argentina. I say I am from Argentina because I grew up in Spain, but then I moved to Argentina. And then at the age of 11, I moved to Argentina because my grandmother was sick. so my grandmother from my father's side. When I arrived to Argentina at 11, I was brought up in a Christian household, my father, my mother, very good, always together, always bringing me to the teaching
Starting point is 00:05:41 and the gnosis and the knowledge of Jesus. But I was a child. All I had was my desires, my intentions, my narratives, my, what I wanted for my life. And as, as you said, I began to see those that profess to love Jesus and I began to see the hypocrisy and the masks and the cracks form. And I was like, I do not want that. To me, those people are losers.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I don't want that. If Jesus is that, that's not real. So I said at the age of 16, I'm leaving. And with $200 in a suitcase, I went to the United States. Where'd you land in the United States I landed in upstate New York. Wow. And I started working at a small camp, pressure washing basketball courts and cleaning toilets. And it's a little place called Scroon Lake, New York. And Hudson from Comfort, the brand, the e-commerce brand, he actually has a lakehouse there. So when I told him the story, he was like, bro, nobody knows this place. Like, there's only like a thousand people.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So he's my confirmation of the legitimacy of this story. And so I arrived to the United States and very hurt, very hurt by. by the falsity of it all. But my intention was because I saw my parents always going to churches asking for money, asking for resources, and nobody would budge and I. Everybody had their own selfish desires.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Everybody said they loved God, but they didn't actually love God. They loved themselves. And then they went to church. Yeah. Well, isn't that a common theme, though? Like, not just in where you grew up, but, I mean, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:23 I was telling you a little bit of my story. It may be manifest in different fonts, whether it's about money or about something else, right? For sure. And the reality is I saw through the illusions and the illusions were not very convincing. So I told my father, you know what? Like, I'm not going to depend on other people. I'm going to go and make my own money. So I'm going to start doing sales.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm going to start making money, figuring things out. So I went to Bible school. I learned about the Word of God. I learned about who God is. I learned about Jesus. I learned about how he came. As God birthed through Mary, the virgin, the glitch in the matrix, the miracle. To teach us how to live.
Starting point is 00:08:16 To teach us how to serve. To be like him. But not only that, not only didn't come and teach us how to live, he came to die for our sin. And when I began to realize these things, I was mesmerized at the fact that only God could save us. So God himself had to send himself and he had to pay the price to the God of this world with blood. Just like Aslan in the book in the Chronicles of Narnia. It's an allegory.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And I fell in love with him. I fell in love with him because he loved me. and the love was so compelling. It was something that I had never experienced. But it still hadn't actualized in my life. And it hadn't actualized because I wasn't walking in full faith. I still wanted to do what I wanted to do, which was I wanted to be successful, make money, achieve things. So I was in Bible school and I was following this girl at the time.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And she said, I'm going to Liberty University. I'm like, okay, all tag along. So I signed up, got my Liberty ID, and went to Liberty. I said, well, what should I study? Mind you, I have never told anybody this. Wow. I have never told anybody my story. So I arrived to Liberty University in love with this girl,
Starting point is 00:09:44 who I thought I was going to marry. And then I got an email from her father saying, you are not allowed to see my daughter anymore. So I was like, well, I just moved my entire life. I did this Bible school thing. I fell in love with Jesus now. I fell in love with this girl. now I want to follow this American dream, make money.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like, my mind was just confused. Yeah. I'm in this country that I've never been in. I can have a couple hundred dollars. I'm broke. Yeah. I was trying to figure things out. What took place was something very interesting because not only did God bring me to liberty,
Starting point is 00:10:13 but he was like, what should we study or what should we learn? Because I always dialogue with God, and it's always we. It's always we. It's dynamic of, this dynamic duo. He said, do pastoral studies. So I'm like, okay, so I have two years of biblical school under my belt. What if I become a pastor? And then I go and I start listening to pastoral leadership classes.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And I look at the men, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. This is way too much responsibility, you know, like, these people are too real. Like, I don't want to offend God by calling myself a pastor. You know, like, this is not it. So let me go do international business. Let me go study international business. because I wanted to make money, I wanted to travel the world. And then I went into my first international business class.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And the international business professor asked them the first question, have you ever been overseas? And he said, no. So this guy that's trying to teach me about how to do business with people overseas has never been overseas. Like, it's all a scam. So I dropped out of liberty. But I was able to meet my wife there, my beautiful wife. and we got married a few years later. I've been with her ever since.
Starting point is 00:11:31 11 years, the only woman I've ever been with. And she said, hey, you know what? I want to be a doctor. So we went with her. You said you're from Georgia. I went to Georgia. And I started making money on the internet. My brother, Nate, which he's on the internet as well,
Starting point is 00:11:50 he started learning about e-commerce. The year was 2016. And in that time, I was also waiting tables. And somebody told me about Bitcoin and crypto. And I didn't know much, but I knew that it was more real than the dollar. I knew that making money online was better than waiting tables. So I was like, let me just full send it and go. At that moment, I was like, okay, I'm pretty intelligent.
Starting point is 00:12:18 E-commerce is brand new. Crypto's brand new. And I started to make money. Lots of money. millions a month. And I was making money, gaining weight, eating fast food, living for myself. But deep down, I still wasn't fully fulfilled. I wasn't complete because I wasn't walking in my true design.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So I continued to make money, made money in crypto. Bitcoin goes from $500 to $120,000. I go from waiting tables to becoming a world-renowned name, making millions of dollars in business. And I think the year was 2004, God gets a hold of me. And it's at the peak of my success. It's at the peak of my money.
Starting point is 00:13:10 It's at the peak of my fame. It's at the peak of my personal brand. But I was not fulfilled. And I stood there in the palaces and in the mansions. And I looked at these people and I said, they are not like me. They have money, but they don't have the truth. And I felt sorry for them. And like your story, you were at the pits.
Starting point is 00:13:40 But I was at the top. But it was the same. Yeah. The emptiness was the same. Because it doesn't matter what position you're in. if you don't have Christ and if you don't have the love of Jesus, then you are not fulfilled. It doesn't matter what you do.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So God said, no more business, Luke. I said, okay, what should I do? He said, have faith. Okay, sounds good. So I just started working and collaborating with God and spending time with Jesus and he has been mentoring me. He has been teaching me.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And over the last two years, my brand has grown, but I've been quiet. You know, all the videos that people see on the internet of Luke Belmar is the old version of me. It's the internet, Luke Belmar. It's the money, Luke Belmar of fame and Luke Belmar of crypto and all these things. And that is no longer the version that I am because when you are born again, that means that the old man has died. And that means that the old man's ways have died. I decide to give everything to God my money my resources my time my attention my energy everything and that's where we are today wow I got so many questions I want to unpack with you because there's
Starting point is 00:14:58 like so much and thank you for sharing your story and first of all I'm so encouraged I mean I guess just to hit back off of something recently the most recent thing you just said out of all that your quietness off the internet you know that was intentional because of you spending time with Jesus, but is there any other intentionality behind your silence online? I needed to evolve. The old man had to die, had to be crucified, and the new man had to be born. And that's a process. People think that becoming saved is this idea that you say a little prayer and then you just go on with your business. No, it's a transfiguration. It's a process. And that process is a lifetime process. It's a process that takes time. And I didn't want to go back.
Starting point is 00:15:44 back to the internet unless I was clear on my mission. Unless I was clear on what God wanted me to do. And now we are back. Yeah. Can you explain to me? Because solitude with God is so important. I mean, when you read the scriptures, one of the major things I'm encouraged by by Jesus when I read the scriptures is
Starting point is 00:16:09 he cares about the people he interacts with. He's super intentional, but he's seen running from the crowds more than he is running to them. I mean, he's running from the crowds to get alone with the father because he knew how important it was to be alone with the father. And you're mentioning that that's crucial to your life, which crucial in my life, that's crucial to anyone who sincerely loves God and follows them. What does that time would Jesus look like for you?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Silence. Obedience. No narratives. No agenda. rest, be still and know that I am God, and let him heal you. So when you're sitting with Jesus and you're in the silence, is it just awaiting to hear what he says next? I'm not waiting. I'm obeying the fact that he said, be still.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So when you're, I guess what I'm trying to ask is when you're listening. I'm not listening. I'm still. And then if he speaks, he speaks. And if he doesn't, he doesn't, but I am still. Gotcha. Okay. and we were talking earlier about the Holy Spirit, love the Holy Spirit. The Bible, John 14, says that he teaches us things, bring conviction. How has the Holy Spirit been transformative and a key pinpoint in your faith journey as of late?
Starting point is 00:17:32 The Holy Spirit is not the only spirit that exists. There are many spirits. There's the spirit of fear, the spirit of greed, the spirit of lust. as a vessel, you get to choose which spirit you want to be possessed by. You get to be possessed by lust, greed, fear. But the word says, God has not given us a spirit of fear. Spirit is, what is a spirit? A spirit is a person, is a person.
Starting point is 00:18:02 But of what? Power, sound mind, and self-control. So I ask myself, because once you bring Jesus into your life, the Holy Spirit comes and descends upon you and dwells with you. So once you have the Holy Spirit living in your vessel, now the question is, do you allow the Holy Spirit to work, or are you going to be the one that works? Because if you are the one that allows the Holy Spirit to work, then you're just a vessel of righteousness that operates and does what he says.
Starting point is 00:18:30 So you have no plans, no agenda, no narratives. To be like Jesus is to walk by faith, not by sight. To walk by faith, not by sight, and to walk in people. purity and in connection to be legit in his eyes. So what the Holy Spirit taught me was, Luke, you're doing things for yourself. And even though I had this idea of, oh, I'm a Christian or I'm a follower of God
Starting point is 00:18:58 or, you know, I go to church, what God cares about is, are you legit before him? In secret. Yeah. In private, behind closed doors. So what the Holy Spirit taught me was, Luke, what is it that you love the most? The Holy Spirit speaks to me many times in questions so that I can reflect. And I began to see people around me possessed by other spirits, spirits of greed,
Starting point is 00:19:27 spirit of money, spirit of desire. And I saw their life go to hell, literally. Yeah. And then I said, that's not the answer. So I said, Holy Spirit, use me. And what that means is literally use me. Use me for you. From thus we come to thus we shall return.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So in that process of understanding that we are finite, but he is infinite, that we are only vessels to be used by him, I rededicated my life to God. Wow. Okay, so you mentioned, I want to kind of get into here in a moment about you're seeing people possessed by spirit of greed and all other stuff in a second. But you mentioned being a Christian or a follower of God. Do you consider yourself a Christian?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Let me reframe that. Jesus, when he was walking on this earth, he did not say, are you a Christian? Are you a Christian? He looked at them and said, follow me. And I will make you fissures of men. Christians were a label that was imposed upon people that were the early followers. of Jesus. Yeah. But nowadays that word has been so trampled and so corrupted and so misused. When I say I'm a Christian, it's not about what I think a Christian is, but what that other person,
Starting point is 00:20:53 the other person that's speaking to me, what their impression of Christianity is, which is, like you said, your pastor, he ran away with a million dollars and, you know, cheated on his wife. And you're like, if that's a Christian, I don't want that. But that was the narrative that had been portrayed. So let me say this. I'm a follower of Jesus. Do you think it's wrong that people associate themselves as being a Christian? Like I would, like if you asked me like, hey, are you a Christian? I would say yes. Now, I agree with you. Right. I could go to the south where there's plenty of more churches and say, hey, are you Christian? And a ton of people would say, yeah, I'm Christian. Now, I can only be sure of my own salvation, right? Like, it's not right of me to make a judgment statement about other person in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I can't see someone's heart, only God can see their heart. Granted, fruit is a good indicator of someone's life. But do you think it's wrong that someone would be like, I'm a Christian? All that matters is, are you real before God? Not about labels. God doesn't care about labels. Doesn't care about words. Tell me what Christian is in Chinese.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Do you know what it is? Exactly. It's just a word. What is it in Arabic? You don't know. It's just a word. what matters is the intention of the heart. So what I,
Starting point is 00:22:10 my deepest desire is that when I die, that Jesus looks at me and says, well done, my good and faithful servant. Not about labels. Interesting. So hinting on, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:24 you mentioned you grew up, your drive was, you know, financial success, money and all this. And it was, mind you, it was driven because I,
Starting point is 00:22:32 I wanted to do good, but I saw that nobody was helping my parents. So I said, let me just carry my own weight and go make my own money because let me not depend on these hypocrites. Yeah. So that was kind of like the leading indicator. Yeah, that's so interesting. I think a lot of people, there's this quote I heard where it's like,
Starting point is 00:22:48 if the devil can't make you sin, it'll make you busy. And so like there have been times in my life where I have been deceived by something that's good. It's easy to be like, what's a God door and what's a bad door? It's like, okay, yeah, choose the God door of a bad door. The hardest thing for anyone is what's a God door and a good door? So I think that's very fascinating, very profound. How do you now, in this moment, how do you define success? I don't care about success.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I only care to serve God. So is success serving God? There is no success. There's only living for God or living for yourself. So you don't think... All these terms, all these labels, all these words that people have attributed to entrepreneur, money. None of this matters. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:33 so you wouldn't define anything as being successful. What I mean by that question is, you're right. Like the entrepreneur might be like, yeah, success is bringing in X amount of money a year. Or another person might say, well, success is having a family with four kids. Or success is owning the car collection or the watch collection or many things. So you wouldn't even define success as just knowing God. I am mesmerized by God's love, his desire. to save me. I am nothing. So in this state you're in right now where you said you're just
Starting point is 00:24:10 God's like have faith and now you're just being still and God speaks he speaks. If he doesn't, he doesn't, you're being still. What do you call it this season right now for you? Is it a lifetime? Is it a season? Is it explain that to me? Who knows? Not for me to think about. All I do is act now to honor him. Tomorrow will take care of itself. So how do you, how's your perspective of money changed now from before you viewed money to after you viewed money? I used to, I used to be a scavenger. I used to scavenge for money. I used to hoard money. And then I realized that the Messiah had no money, that he walked with sandals. And then he went and spent time with the tax collector and the prostitute.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And that if God does not need anything, what do I? Who am I to live a long life? Who am I to desire things? I have no desire. Do you steward things that God's given you? Do you steward finances? I have people that manage things.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So you can just focus on him? So that I can rest in him. Okay. So I want to ask about that because there's an interesting, I see money. I see money as a resource. Money does not define me. When you read Matthew and Jesus is speaking on the mount,
Starting point is 00:25:44 he says that rain falls on the just and the unjust. Money is everywhere. Where is your heart? Yeah. So when God says, give, I give. When God says, make, I make. It's not about money. It's about following him.
Starting point is 00:26:02 If I die today with $10 million in the bank account, it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. If I die with zero, it doesn't mean anything. It's just energy. Money's like a key, right? It's like a key. And it lets you unlock doors.
Starting point is 00:26:17 People want to walk through a door and they're frustrated so they need money to unlock the door. But if you're just chilling, you don't need to unlock doors. God opens the doors. Yeah. So why do I need money if I have God? I see what you're saying. Yeah, that's one of the things I really want to ask you about the practicality and discipline side of things. And this comes from a guy that's worth millions of dollars. So somebody
Starting point is 00:26:39 on the other side of the screen is like, who is this read? Why, I have to go to my job tomorrow. And I have to work because I have to pay my bills. But I look at you and I say, all of these bills are self-imposed. Your rent is self-imposed. Your bills are self-imposed. Yeah, but what about your your car bill is self-imposed? Your mortgage is self-imposed. These are all things that you have chosen that you want. So now you have to keep up. So you're keeping up with your own delusion. So it's a rat race. Whereas Adam and Eve, when they communed with God in the garden, God gave them everything that they needed. So let me ask you about desires and and maybe hobbies per se, because that was something that I've always wondered, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:23 let's say someone has a watch collection per se, right? Or let me give you this example. So I had a co-worker when I was 18. I used to work on boat. in Florida. And he was double my age. He was in his mid-30s. And he did not want anything to do with God. And I would talk to him about Jesus constantly, sweet man, but deep down, didn't want anything to do with Jesus. And he would always tell me, Bryce, if Jesus gives me a bunch of money, then I'll believe in him. But he was a bad steward of his money he already had, you know, so he obviously never got any money. and he would look at me and blame God for not having money. Well, part of me would look at the outward
Starting point is 00:28:06 of what he's doing with his money. He would split our tips at lunchtime and let me keep everything we had past lunch just because he wanted to go get a scratch off across the street. Whereas I would look at him and go, someone who didn't have a lot of money in his bank account, that guy obviously had a money problem. Whereas like, there's people that could have loads of money in their bank account
Starting point is 00:28:24 and that stuff doesn't have a grip on their heart. They didn't have a money problem. They had a problem of greed. So money is not inherently sinful. Money is just money. Money is just energy. It's not sinful. If you have bills, go take care of your family.
Starting point is 00:28:38 If you have to go work, God made work. God made everything, right? Like God told Adam, God told Eve, like, hey, you have to go work. Working is part of our design. But it's like, do you work to make money? Do you work for yourself or do you work as unto the Lord? Okay. Do you go?
Starting point is 00:28:58 because we're speaking to an audience that is striving to be like him. So when you go to work and you're thinking about making a paycheck, are you thinking about covering your bills? Are you living in anxiety? Or are you doing things to honor him? Yeah. The paycheck is just a means for you to buy food. But what happens if the grocery store shuts down in the next pandemic?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Where are you going to get your food? What? You're going to be dependent on the system of the beast. Go read revelations. It's upon us. In the gospel of Luke, Jesus sends out, the disciples and not just the 12. He sends out the 72.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And he looks at them and he says, bring no knapsack, bring no extra tunic, don't bring an extra pair of shoes. Go and learn to trust me. So they go and they be sent out and he gives them the Holy Spirit. He breathes the Holy Spirit into their bodies
Starting point is 00:29:45 and they go out and they come back and they return. Then at the end of the Gospel of Luke, I think in Luke chapter 22 or 23, he's like, hey, do you remember that time that I told you not to bring a knapsack, not to bring a tunic, not to bring an extra pair of shoes. You were learning to trust me while I was here.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I was in the flesh with you on earth. And they were like, yeah. He says, okay, now that I'm ascending into heaven, I'm not going to leave you alone, I'll send you the helper. But he's like, bring an extra knapsack, bring an extra tunic, bring an extra thing. So I want to ask you how you, how do you balance the faith,
Starting point is 00:30:23 the trusting in God to be the provider, to bring provision, whatever that means is a blanket statement. And also, for lack of better terms, like using common sense, being good steward, things like that. Common sense comes from God. Most people are living in a delusion.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Most people are living, they look at the dollar bill and it says in God we trust. They don't trust in God. They trust in the money. When it has an Illuminati sign on it, they don't see that they're slaves. They see it, but they don't see it.
Starting point is 00:30:55 because their heart is far from God. We don't need money. We need him. If everybody understood this, we wouldn't be in the system that we're in. When a man builds a business, does he build it to steal or does he build it to honor God?
Starting point is 00:31:12 God is the one that provides. God is the one that gives wealth. Not you running schemes and you running funnels and you running clickbait in order to get people to convert into customers. Yeah. So as God has been changing, my life. Mind you, I've made a lot of money, but my money does not belong to me. None of it. God could
Starting point is 00:31:39 drop me dead now. And then I would have to be accountable for my heart and my actions to him. Yeah. So if God blesses me and God gives me something, to whom much is given what? Much is required. So if God gives me something, then may I be found faithful in stewarding it for his glory. Yeah. So if God blesses you and God makes your business successful, not you make it successful. Nebuchadnezzar said, look at all the things that my mighty hands have done. And then God in one instant turned him into a beast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So that he would be humbled. So God humbled me. and he kept me in the wilderness like a beast running around in loops like many of these Christians running around in loops living for themselves
Starting point is 00:32:33 taking an espresso shot of Jesus on Sunday and then going back into Babylon and worshipping themselves. Wow. Yeah, that story from Daniel was powerful on Nebuchadnezzar because Daniel warns him. Daniel was a slave in exile and because
Starting point is 00:32:50 enclosed chambers and behind closed doors he honored God. God excelled him and God made him known amongst the nations. God put him in the palace to take care of everybody. Not for him. He didn't care about what he wore. He didn't care about making money. He cared about being legit before God's eyes. That's all I care about now. I think that's so fascinating. So a few weeks ago, I was reminded by the Lord. We're not doing him any favors. Like, I don't do God a favor by having a podcast like talking about the Bible. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:29 Like, I'm not doing him a favor. God doesn't need me. He doesn't need you. He doesn't need any of us, you know? And I was still reminding, I kind of like laughed out loud. I'm like, wow, it's such a sweet reminder, you know? Because that's what the world does. It's like busy, busy, busy.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Like, how often do you tell someone like, hey, how are you doing? And they're like, good, I'm busy. And it's like, is it really good to be busy? Busy, busyness, business. It's kind of crazy. world we live in. Is that, is that the... It's a world full of sin and darkness. So can you explain to me? Is that
Starting point is 00:34:01 the matrix? Yeah, the matrix is a system, Neil. Prison of the mind. Fear. Fear or faith? Do you act by fear? Do you act by faith? When Jesus was walking on water and Peter
Starting point is 00:34:16 looks at him and says, if you are him, if you are Jesus, tell me to come and walk on water and I will come he says come and he began to walk on water just like jesus just like jesus but then when he became afraid he began to sink when your life is a mess that doesn't mean life is perfect everybody will die there's pain there's suffering there's health issues all these things i know i know but when you have fear and not faith then you begin to sink when you have fear in your business things go south.
Starting point is 00:34:55 When you have fear in your relationships, is my wife, is my husband going to, chaos, chaos of the mind. Chaos of the mind then reflects in the three-dimensional. Everything that happens in the 3D first occurs here and here,
Starting point is 00:35:11 and then it's manifested. So what you're seeing is the manifestation of a broken world that does not submit to God. So now they're trying to repair it with illusions like money. I got a message from a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Bought a house. $65 million. Cash in Calabas has bought Bitcoin under $10. Telling me how he hasn't left the house in 10 years because he has a broken relationship with his wife. He is a man that is in prison. Yet he has billions. Who is free?
Starting point is 00:35:44 Him or the bird that is operating in God's design has nothing but can fly. So when we operate as humans in God's design, in God's nature, when we are in him, then all is well. When we are in him, all is good. Whether you're being shot at by people that are trying to chase you, while whether you're a billionaire, whatever cards God has dealt you for your journey, everybody's different.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's not about acting out of desperation. It's about acting in faith. This is a new version of me because he has made me. me new. So my entire framework of reality has now changed because he has given me a new way to see the world. How does one escape the matrix? You don't. It is what it is. All you do is you are in the world, but not of it. You're in the world because we are in this three-dimensional construct, but we are not of the world. If you have Jesus and you have Christ and you have God in your life, you are free.
Starting point is 00:36:55 You are free indeed. And that is all. We still have problems in this world. We still have things that we need to do. We still have responsibilities. These are real things. Like if you're going to have a child one day or you have a wife, you're thinking, okay, how do I provide for her?
Starting point is 00:37:11 How do I give her a better life? How do I make sure that her life on this earth is better? These are all normal things. Where do I go on vacation? These are all, these are things that God gave us to enjoy. And I'm not saying don't enjoy these things. I'm saying don't have these things. I've been to 65 countries.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I travel. I stay in a five-star hotels. I stay in, I stay with monks. I do everything, right? It's about doing what God tells you to do. It's about you not trying to build yourself up. It's about not building your little tower of Babel.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Your own little tower of Babel to be like God. Every individual person trying to do their little thing, trying to make up their little world, trying to make every, it's all an illusion. What do you think about other religions? They are close, yet so far. They are like the serpent in the garden, half-truths. They sound great. They're practical,
Starting point is 00:38:03 but they don't heal your soul. They don't change you from the inside out. Only the love of Christ can change you from the inside out. Yeah. Only love itself can show you what love is. In Acts chapter 18, Paul goes to the Aeropagus and the people are worshipping this idol and they literally don't have a name for it. It's called the unknown God. And basically Acts chapter 18, it kind of paints this picture of other religions can have a shadow of Christ, but not the fullness of it. You know, like something I respect about my Muslim friends is a lot of them pray a lot more than people that claim to be Christian, you know. They give a lot more than a lot of Christians do. They fast a lot more than Christians do. And there's like a shadow of Christ in that
Starting point is 00:38:51 morality. They don't have the fullness of him. They don't have the same perspective of Jesus that I do as a believer. I believe he's God. They think he's just a prophet, you know? The Bible says that all your good works are like filthy rags before him. All your good works are filthy rags. There is nobody good except God. So it doesn't matter what good that you do. It's not good. It is only him that is good. so when people try to do things like as if they can impress the creator of the universe you can't impress him all you can do is submit to him and let him take care of you because we are all children it doesn't matter of your 50 60 70 80 20 for all children the moment you want to be like god you're fighting god against god and the one that tried to be like god got cast down that was one of the main reasons why i became a christian was because i told you that few months before that night in Waffle House, I was like looking into other religions and stuff. And it was all about there was no security in those. It was just how hard you can climb the ladder and maybe. It was like a gamble, but you had to keep climbing the ladder. And I just thought to myself, if in a broken world,
Starting point is 00:40:03 I can't even fix my broken heart. How could I ever work to perfection? And that was like, it's impossible. And then that night at Waffle House, perfection met me. Yes. He met me in that moment. Because he has to fish you out from your despair. If not, you can't make it. it out. You can't climb your way to God. That's why Jesus came. If we could have climbed our way to God, Jesus would have never come. Yeah. It wouldn't have been necessary if we could have done it for ourselves. Jesus plus nothing equals everything. Isn't it interesting that in the garden, the doubt that Satan basically plants in the brain is, yeah, you're in paradise with God, but you're not God. That's the essential doubt. It's like, yeah, I mean, you're with God, but you're not God.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And they're kind of like, wait, that's why he doesn't want me to eat of the tree. It was all that idea of wanting to become God. You know, the Bible, you know, the Bible. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. When your advertising operations fall out of sync, everything else follows. Spotify and Accenture are working together to reinvent the rhythm of ad sales, using automation, analytics, and smarter workflows to simplify campaign delivery and access better data across the business.
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Starting point is 00:42:04 God and money. So do you take one or the other? Why not God in sex? Why not God and money? Why? because that is what the heart desires because the money which is the tool that people used to construct themselves
Starting point is 00:42:19 denies God because if you have all these resources then you stop depending on God I was the man with millions of dollars I didn't need God I didn't need God but then I got to the top and I was like this is empty there's nothing this was a joke I didn't waste my time
Starting point is 00:42:37 it was a process of gaining XP like a video game character you do your side quest your main quest, you start getting XP points. So you start collecting coins, kind of like Grand Theft Auto, you have the loot on the top right. But it's just that. Like the game is what matters,
Starting point is 00:42:53 not what coins you collect. Like you're playing a game, you beat the game. You're not like, oh, cool, how many coins did I collect to beat the game or at the end of the game? You're just like, did I win? Yeah. So it's like the tools, the resources,
Starting point is 00:43:06 the weapons, the skins, the armor. All these things are just part of the journey. But if you find your identity, outside of Jesus, you are lost. Yeah, the money thing, I heard an apologist say one time talking about how money can take a finite form of God. And what he meant by that is like, you can create your own world in this world with money. Don't you see all these billionaires creating these realities? How they build empires, how they build skyscrapers, how they build these towers of Babel.
Starting point is 00:43:38 They're building it for themselves. but they die and they're consumed by worms like everybody else. When you look at what? Ecclesiastes. Solomon said, I built gardens for myself. I had concubine, 700 of them. I gained all the wisdom and all the knowledge and all the noses that one man could desire.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I was the wealthiest king that ever lived in Jerusalem. Yet all is vanity. All is like chasing after the wind. So I ask people, Do you want to chase the wind or do you want to follow God? It's simple. Following God is simple. When you look at Leonardo da Vinci's painting, the creation of Adam,
Starting point is 00:44:19 Adam is resting and God is reaching. And all that Adam has to do is move his finger to be connected with God. Just this. Not strive, just accept. And then your journey begins because the journey is to be connected back with God, not to make money, not to be rich, not to be wealthy. That's why Jesus said in the Lord's prayer, give us today our daily bread.
Starting point is 00:44:46 That's it. Just God give me what I need for my next meal. So that when I go to sleep and I sleep, I can sleep in peace. The wealthiest man is not the one that has the most money. It's the one that wakes up with the least pressure on his chest. Interesting. You mentioned earlier, you're like we're in the end times.
Starting point is 00:45:02 This is essentially what we were talking about. you briefly mentioned it I want to talk about that because I agree I think we've always been in the end times just waiting on Jesus to return a second time
Starting point is 00:45:13 I mean I think Paul and Peter and then we're in the end times a lot of people there's a lot of buzz speculation online for many different people AI dangers of AI
Starting point is 00:45:24 people are worried about AIA do you have any thoughts about that about cautions warnings on AI or anything in order to understand the Bible
Starting point is 00:45:32 and the prophecy of the Bible you need to understand revelations. In order to understand revelations, you must understand Daniel. Because all of the New Testament is based on the prophecy of Daniel. And when you begin to decode the prophecy of Daniel, my grandfather studied the book of Daniel for 30 years, specifically just the book of Daniel for 30 years. He predicted the Strait of Hormuz being closed in 2002 and many other things that are now occurring. What we are seeing is man's desire to again be like God. They are creating these godlike entities.
Starting point is 00:46:08 There was a podcast recently in the All-In podcast where Chimoth is interviewing this guy and he says, you know these big companies, open AI, anthropic and whatnot, they are midwiving a deity. We were created from what? Dust. Our intelligence was created from dust. And then from the dust, God created what? He gave us life through his breath. Now men are trying to create intelligence again from dust
Starting point is 00:46:35 If you look at what silicone is, silicone chips are actually sand. So we're creating intelligence out of dust itself, but without the breath of life. We're trying to recreate our own version of God because it's easier to do our own agenda than to submit to him. There's many things about history that have been erased, forgotten, misunderstood. And I don't know everything.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I know that is that when I see the world, I see children being butchered in Planned Parenthood, Babylonic, satanic temples that are coined as health care. They're actually witchcraft. They're actually child sacrifice. When I see that, I see the wars. I see the famine. I see the hunger. I look at that and I say, it is the end of times because the Bible is clear where the world will be,
Starting point is 00:47:30 the condition of the world. And when you begin to look at the stars, when you begin to understand the yuga cycles, when you begin to understand the book of Daniel, when you begin to understand Revelation, all these different things, that there is a shift that is coming. Armageddon means what?
Starting point is 00:47:51 Cataclysm. Cataclysm means something that happens in the earth, that everything changes. God said that he will never destroy the earth again by water. next time the Armageddon will be by fire. He will purify the world. You look at the Yuga cycle. The Yuga cycle is a 24,000-year cycle.
Starting point is 00:48:08 It's the age of silver, bronze, gold, and copper. Just like the prophecy of Daniel, when you look at the statue, the head of gold, the torso of silver, the legs of bronze, if I'm not mistaken, and then the footstool or the feet of clay and steel. It is a representation of the kingdoms that are here and the kingdoms that came
Starting point is 00:48:31 and the kingdoms that are to come, which is Babylon, Greece, Rome, and then the new Babylon. And it says that a stone, which is Jesus, strikes the foot of this statue and the prophecy of Daniel, and everything collapses. So now we are at this bottom stage. The Bible says that nobody knows the time or the hour, which he will return, but you will see the sign of the times.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And again, this is, a sobriety check for everybody to realize that nothing that you accumulate in this world you get to keep. Whether God disintegrates us, whether we go into heaven, whether it's pre-tribulation, post-tribulation, it doesn't matter. What matters is, are you walking with God? Are you in his design? Have you surrendered your life to him, or do you live for yourself? Are you legit in God's eyes in the closed chambers of your room, or are you a hypocrite? I think somewhere in the book of Revelation, I was talking to a pastor, friend, and there's something about how society will create an image that literally talks, and people will worship
Starting point is 00:49:38 it. And I think that's why, at least for me, that's one of my, like, when I think of AI, like, my mind immediately goes to that. But also, something that's interesting to me is, I think AI is kind of a cool tool in the sense that it's like a quick Google search thing if you use it that way. But I'm seeing a trend of a lot of people using AI to like stop critical thinking skills and they're leaning on AI as if it's God, asking them what to do in a situation, taking a picture of something, how do I do that, you know, asking it so many questions where they're losing the critical thinking skills,
Starting point is 00:50:10 the brain that God gave them and they're just leaning on an algorithm, a robot, things like that. What's your warning against that or warning against algorithms, social media? I mean, do you think algorithms are constructs? What's the intention when you're scrolling on the internet and you're hitting refresh and you hit that refresh? It's like a slot machine. What's the next thing that's going to come out? Chim, to team.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Dopamine hit. Dopamine hit. Dopamine. You're being controlled. So what I understood, it's not whether the tool is used or not used. It's understanding why it was created. AI has been around for a very long time. It wasn't didn't roll out in 2022. It was fed to the masses in 2022 been around for decades
Starting point is 00:50:58 Decades if not centuries It's been around for a very long time the intelligence that being tapped into is beyond human comprehension That's why you see these anthropic guys going to the Vatican and presenting it to the Pope and the Pope is literally tweets and says We either get to restore humanity or build the new Babylon and when we we built the last Babylon, when everybody came together to be like God, God said, nope, scatter them. And this is man's struggle with God.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Man is always opposed God. Man's heart is incurably religious, incurably sinful unless they submit to God. So you see all these people, they don't know what they do. They receive a thought and they think that it's their thought. You don't know if it's your thought. For all you know, it's a demon that's controlling you.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Because you went and you slept with a prostitute and now you have a succubus or an incubus inside of you that's just corrupting everything inside of you. That's why God, when he speaks to you and he gives you commandments, is to protect you and not to take things from you so that you can be used by him,
Starting point is 00:52:07 so that you can be used by him because if you're not used by God, you're used by something else. There's no such thing as you making your own decisions. We talk about prompts. Bro, we're being prompted by entities all day long. they're dropping they're dropping prompts in their minds
Starting point is 00:52:23 now you choose to do what you do with that prompt oh I want to watch that's not you saying I want to watch point that urge doesn't come from you it's not an addiction it's a prompt in your head that you are choosing to submit to there is no such thing as addiction there's disobedience and obedience
Starting point is 00:52:40 every single thing is a choice now when you have Jesus in your life for those struggling with addictions and struggling with issues the question is, who's going to cure it? A psychologist, a person, medicine, drugs, whatever it is. No, none of these things are going to cure the fundamental problem that's within, that is sustainable long term.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Only God can heal. Only God can restore. Only God can what, make things new again. What people need is not to stop an addiction. What people need to do is to be with Jesus and God, and they will realize that all these other things, they don't need them. You won't desire them when you have everything. A person that is seeking and chasing and desiring is a person that is missing something.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I don't seek, I don't chase, I am still because I have everything that I need. You mentioned earlier that you have a wife you've been married. You said 11 years. Is that what you said? Yeah. I've been with her for 11 years. Okay. What has being in a relationship taught you?
Starting point is 00:53:41 You must have trust that is unconditional. You must have respect that is unconditional. You must serve without expecting anything in return. You must love the way that Jesus loved. When you have a wife or a husband or a girlfriend or a boyfriend, are you there because you're taking, because they make you feel good, or because you're there to serve and to give?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Everybody's struggling with divorce and separation. That's their fault. that's them trying to get something from the relationship oh this person doesn't love me it's your fault you don't love correctly and probably because you haven't experienced the love of jesus you can't love unless you've experienced love from love itself first john four says we love because he first loved us yes because he is love so people have affection people have chemistry but unless it's rooted in love and love is not an emotion, take commitment to the betterment of the other, even to the cost of life. Like Jesus.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Oh, I love that definition. Because there is no greater love than this than one man be willing to lay down his life for another. If a man saw his wife under that message, he would never cheat. I love the Hebrew word for God's love. Greek word, the simple definition is just an unconditional love, agape. But the Hebrew word, O'Havits, that sacrificial love. literally translates to lay your life down for someone. I think the, the, for the husband in
Starting point is 00:55:17 Ephesians, it talks about how you've got to love your wife the way that Christ says love the church, literally unto death. That's a big responsibility. And I think you said something really profound that could be totally overheard by people listening, that so many people get in relationships to take. And that's why like porn and sex outside of marriage is such, I believe is popular because that inherent nature to be selfish to feed oneself to feed one's flesh. Scavengers. Take, take, take. Cabangers just like money. So can we can we hit on something I wanted to talk you about, which I think Christians get weird about talking, which they shouldn't get weird about talking about, is sex. Is sex both physical, spiritual, both?
Starting point is 00:56:05 Sex is marriage. That's why when Jesus says, if you marry a divorced woman, and you are committing adultery. Marriage is not this thing that you go to a church and you get a ring put on and some dude with a robe sprinkle some stuff and some rice and people are celebrating.
Starting point is 00:56:24 It's a sacred union like Adam and Eve united under God. That's why people say, how long you've been married? No, I've been with my wife. Marriage is me, God, and her. And not a date or a thing. It's a commitment.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And sex was created by God. Sex is beautiful. People don't even know how to have sex. They have sex for nine minutes and they came because they saw it on a video. They think that that is what is sex. Sex is to unite. Sex is to connect. Sex is to repair.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Sex is to heal. It's not to take. It's not to feel good. It's not to get off. People don't even know what transmuting the sexual energy means. People think that every time they have to have sex, they think that every time they have to, They think that every time they have to have sex,
Starting point is 00:57:11 that it's about self-indulgence. It's not, it's an act of worship. That's purest form. You could be having sex with your wife and be thinking about something else. True. Correct. So it's not about the action.
Starting point is 00:57:22 It's about, it's about, it's about the purity of the vulnerability in the act of worship at its purest form. So when I see my fellow brothers going to a club, taking a girl back home, using her or that girl
Starting point is 00:57:43 imposing her female energy upon a man to seduce him to steal his male energy all I see is what me me me me me take take take take take and they destroy the other person
Starting point is 00:57:59 that's part one part two the reason God is very explicit about virginity very explicit about virginity is because the moment you connect a USB drive to a computer, you don't know what programs you're going to download. People talk about STDs, sexually transmitted diseases, but they don't talk about spiritually transmitted diseases. When you unite yourself to a strange woman, you don't know what you're
Starting point is 00:58:25 dealing with. You don't know what packs you're forming. Sex is magic. Sex is a ritual. When you go and have sex with a prostitute, you are committing a sexual ritual. Black magic. people have not learned these things. They haven't been educated these things. They haven't been taught these things, but these things are real. That's why people's life is in disorder and in chaos.
Starting point is 00:58:48 No wonder you're in haywire because you're operating outside of God's design. The Bible gives you enough to have faith. It doesn't tell you everything about the constructs of reality. There's more to it. That's why we're here to teach
Starting point is 00:59:00 and educate and learn. But when God taught me and showed me the importance of that sacred unity is because you don't want memory logs with other people. You don't want to download their programs. You don't want to download their spiritually transmitted diseases. You don't want to link your avatar character to theirs
Starting point is 00:59:20 because it's not part of God's design. Sex is an act of worship. It's not something to be taken lightly. And society has reduced sex to a nine-minute experience to release stress and tension. Go to the gym and go for a run. You'll be fine. Yeah, that's so interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:38 You can blow off steam or testosterone by like working out and stuff like that. So you mentioned marriage. I wanted to ask you, this is something that me and my friend Chris, and sometimes we talk about us like what it means to be married. I even talk to Tristan Tate about this. We were like, what does it mean to be married? I mean, I don't think it's not. I actually don't know what I think.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I want to hear your thoughts. I don't think it just means, oh, you sign a document or if you put on a ring, like if I toss you my ring, does that mean like we're married? You know what I mean? what is the signifier that it is a marriage, right? Because if we say it's just a commitment, right? If I'm like, oh, marriage is just a commitment, what if I say to you, I'm committed to you
Starting point is 01:00:15 and you're committed to me? Does that mean we're married or things like that? So how do you define marriage? It's not how I define it. It's how God defines it. How do you think he defines it? Look, Adam and Eve, perfect unity. One, two, three.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Marriage is three, not two. man, woman, and God. That is marriage. When together you strive as man and woman to be in fullness and incompletion, worshiping him. You don't need another person. You're not looking for other sources of validation. That's why God says in Genesis, it is not good for a man to be alone. And out of that, noisis, he created the woman out of his rib to be a companion. God created this game. name. God created the rules for his, for his glory. I don't understand everything. I just see what it is for what it is. So marriage is not one person or two person is male, female, and God together in a relationship that can what, elevate for the glory of him. Okay, let me let me keep keep adding on to that. So in Genesis, when we look at like the covenant,
Starting point is 01:01:30 just practical covenants made in general, but I'm just going to use the one Abraham and God, for example. The covenant was signified. when they shredded the animals apart, they split them in half, right, signifying if someone walks down an aisle, right? That's symmetry. There's that symbolism. But I'm like, was it, when was that covenant sealed? Does that make sense? Was it sealed by the bloodshed that happened with the animals? Or once, you know, the word said, I guess in my mind when I'm thinking of marriage. When you choose, people form a choice, right? So they, they are like, okay, we're going to choose to be married on this day. Okay, on that day you made the commitment. but you could have made the commitment at any point.
Starting point is 01:02:08 It's the commitment. Marriage is a commitment. Once you make the commitment to love each other unconditionally, that is when you're married. That is when you, and that's why you have, you know, people that are witnesses because they witness the commitment, because they are what? They're the people that keep you accountable.
Starting point is 01:02:31 They're the people that make sure that you are in check. They're the people that when you're a week, they try to remind you. So marriage is a commitment. It's a lifelong commitment. Marriage, sex, they go hand in hand. They're not indistinguishable. And I know this as a virgin that married a virgin. So it's very hard for people that have had sex outside of marriage to understand this concept
Starting point is 01:02:53 because we're so far out from God's original design that we have to not slowly crawl back. We have to delete the entire narrative and start again. from scratch. That's why us, this generation that's been so attacked, that's why I don't judge anybody. We're all victims. We're kids. You were a victim.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Had you been to a better environment, a better church, a person that was actually, what, a follower of Christ, and brought you into the knowledge of him with love and grace and compassion, maybe your journey would have been a little bit different. Maybe you would have seen things from a different perspective. maybe you would have been hurt or felt abused. So I don't judge. I see it as as it is what it is,
Starting point is 01:03:40 but all these people in five years, 10 years, they will have children. How do you raise them to be? It's not about us. It's about the next generation. It's about what we do with the next generation because it's a healing process. So as we teach our children,
Starting point is 01:03:55 the sanctity of marriage, as we teach our children, the sanctity of having an undivided commitment to God, then these things will, slowly heal humanity. It's a process, but it must be a radical process by completely severing what is real and what is false. So we have all these constructs, all these narratives, these allegories, these walking down the aisle, what aisle? What aisle? If I was in a jungle two thousand years ago as an Aztec or a Maya or whatever and I saw a beautiful woman in the jungle, would I walk down
Starting point is 01:04:28 an aisle? No, these are all constructs, right? But could they feel love? Could they feel commitment? Could they just be united? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So, so, so, so we create all these, these constructs. That's why, that's why when, when Jesus, when Jesus spends time with, with, with, with the Pharisees, he says, you do all these things, but your heart is far away from me. People go and they get married and they're thinking about taking Instagram photos so that people give them likes. Yeah. They miss the point. The point is to be in unity with God. And you can be in unity with God, also and understand God's presence by your counter, which is your female or the female to the male, because you get to see the essence of God from a different perspective.
Starting point is 01:05:13 So what I've come to learn in my marriage and in my relationship with my wife, and I keep this very private, you know, the idea of my wife, and I don't want to be in there. There's a lot of weirdos and shit like that online. I don't really care to share too much about it, but the reason I share it is because somebody has to. somebody has to be the difference somebody has to show what is the authentic design somebody has to represent Adam and Eve
Starting point is 01:05:41 somebody has to represent we are supposed to be like that but the moment that we sin we have what shame the moment Eve bit of the apple and gave it to Adam they bit they what they felt what shame shame they were afraid and they went and they hid
Starting point is 01:05:56 if they were walking in God's design together enjoying life fully they would be in God's presence. Yeah. Do you eat any sort of dessert? Yeah, fruit. Good fruit. So I love desserts, right?
Starting point is 01:06:08 Like, I love good food. It's about the ingredients, right? So the ingredients matter because the body is a machine. So it was created for a specific purpose and a specific function. If we decide to eat whatever we want, like indulge in whatever we want, yeah, we can. But that doesn't mean that it's good for you. So I love dessert. I love food, but it's about the ingredients.
Starting point is 01:06:32 You can make an unhealthy cheesecake and a healthy cheesecake. You can make an unhealthy carrot cake and a healthy one. So it's about what ingredients you use. So when people are trying to make food, enjoy it. You know, be merry, enjoy, drink, whatever you want, have food. But just make sure that the ingredients are good because your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. in order for you to have full access to the Holy Spirit
Starting point is 01:06:58 with deep level of affinity and acuteness, and that means sensibility. Then your body, people said, I felt the Holy Spirit. Talk to me. I felt. A lot of people don't know how to feel because their body is sedated.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Right? So there's a reason why Daniel did not eat the food of Babylon. There's a reason why Daniel abstained from the king's food. Why? Because it defiled him. He said that he proposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the king's portion. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So follow up question on that. Old Testament, you know, certain foods don't eat, don't eat, especially the ones maybe in that instance, food sacrifice, like food that was being offered as an idol sacrifice. In the New Testament, Paul talks about how like, Paul, not Jesus. So you don't listen to Paul? That's not what I said. I said Paul's not Jesus. True.
Starting point is 01:07:58 But he's talking about how... But he's not Jesus. So what do you choose to listen to and not in the Bible? What is Jesus' diet? What do you think his diet is? I don't know. It's for you to figure out. It's a quest.
Starting point is 01:08:10 No, I'm asking you. You brought it up. Not all food is created equal. You know, like when you look at pork and when you look at these things, there's a reason why God has said, do not eat unclean things. things. For example, the pork, right? The pork has no pores, so it can't secrete toxins. So naturally, the toxins are absorbed in the body. So there's, there's a, there's so much to unpack. We'll have to unpack so much after this podcast. People are going to be like, this, I'm going to go
Starting point is 01:08:40 eat some, some hamburgers now and have some bacon. Screw this guy. Wait, do you, do you not eat any beef? I try to reduce as much of it as possible because meat is really good. And, There is a lot of good components to it, but the body does not need meat. The body does not need as much food as one thinks it does. You can be fed by many things. Amino acids, electrolytes, you're fed by the sun, you're fed by the elements. But people's body is so out of touch. They think that the energy of the body comes from eating food,
Starting point is 01:09:16 when in reality the body is designed to produce infinite energy from itself. However, what we need is our amino acids. What we need is our essential minerals. We don't need infinite food. That's why you have Bretherians and you have Jesus being able to be 40 days and 40 nights fasting with no food and water, not because of anything besides the fact that he understood how the body actually worked. So if you understand how the body actually works,
Starting point is 01:09:45 if you understand Adam and Eve, they were eating fruits, right? They were eating from what God created. They weren't eating flesh. eating animals. They were eating what God provided. That's why you even see in Genesis, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. I may be going on a whim here. It says that God, what, killed the animal to clothe them? It didn't say that they killed the animal in order for them to eat food. You have the Ten Commandments. Thou shalt not kill. Does it say kill people? Or say, does that shall not kill? Could you imagine Jesus just ripping the neck of a cow,
Starting point is 01:10:21 Just, does that sound like love? Okay, let me ask you, does that sound like love? No. Could you picture Jesus butchering a lamb? No. Who are you called to be like? Jesus, but he was the lamb that was slain. Yes, sure.
Starting point is 01:10:44 But let me ask you, do you think that's being almost too critical of the text? You know, like, for example. That is being specific. Is that too specific? That is on point. Interesting. So do you eat fish? I don't like fish, unfortunately. But like...
Starting point is 01:11:03 So it's not a moral. This is not a moral. Like we have morality. We've been discussing morality. Like we've been discussing morality. And then we're discussing design. So I want to make sure that we have a distinction here. Oh, so you don't think like... It's not, I'm not saying it's immoral. I'm just, what's immoral is us creating these, these cow farms where we're just butchering and we're killing these animals, which is God's creation, then throwing it in the
Starting point is 01:11:26 garbage. That's not love. That's not being a steward of God's creation. That does not say I'm connected to God. That is that, that screams dishonor. That screams miscarre. That screams misuse. I could right now cut human flesh, put it on the grill, and you'd be like, wow, this meat tastes really good. Not about taste. It's about design. So we have morality. Talking about sex. about your relationship with God. And then we have design. What was the body designed to be? What was the design of the human?
Starting point is 01:12:02 And the human's design is to understand that we've been created in a certain way. So that's why we have cancer, tumors, people have ulcers, people's mouth is all disease. It's because what they're inputting into their body is not in sync with their anatomy, is not in sync with their design. I had to come to turns with these things the more I studied Jesus. I've had to come to turn. That's why James and Paul argued so much.
Starting point is 01:12:34 And James, who was the brother of Jesus, said, I urge you, Paul, to come back to the faith. I urge you, because Paul saw a bright light on his way to Damascus the same way that what? Muhammad saw a bright light. And he acted out of fear, same way Paul acted out of fear. If you look at the Orthodox Church
Starting point is 01:12:55 and then you look at the Catholic Church and you look at the Reformation that took place from this branch and then you look at the fact that the Orthodox Church maintained its traditions because it was the church of the disciples, there's two different dichotomies. But this is all God's design
Starting point is 01:13:11 because this is designed to bring forth the Armageddon, which is Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all together for the final Christendo. This may sound super schizzo, it's everybody. You're like, how the fuck is Luke talking about all these things? I thought we were going to talk about Bitcoin. I didn't think we were talking about Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Maybe other people did. So let me ask you, okay, I mean, I got a lot of questions. Don't we all, bro? So you don't read any of the epistles. I love Paul. And I love his service for Christ. I love what he did. But it doesn't mean that he was perfect.
Starting point is 01:13:50 It doesn't mean that. the letters that he wrote were without narrative and without agenda, that the letters that he wrote were for everybody. They were to the people that he was speaking to. That's why I'm able to see them for what they were. I'm able to see them for what they were. Do you know that before the 1611 King James, there was the apocrypha inside of the Bible. It's called the Intertestament. Yeah, yeah. Have you read it? I have read the apocrypha before. What do you think? Okay, well, actually even before the 1611 and before that, I mean, there's a Hebrew to not from 400 AD that didn't have the apocrypha in it. So, you know, that's something that I think about.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Have you ever been to the, I don't know if you've ever been in the Museum of the Bible. It's in D.C., but that's like, no, I should go. It's very fascinating. And mind you, I want to let everybody know that I'm just trying to do my best to honor God. I don't have all the answers. I'm not telling everybody how they should live or what they should do. And I come from Argentina. You know, that's the beef capital of the world.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I've been eating meat for the 30 years. These are things that God is teaching me. God is trying to show me. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm not saying I'm wrong. I'm just sharing my perspective. Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works
Starting point is 01:15:06 and glorify your father who is in heaven. I'm not here to tell. I just want to show. You know, as my body becomes healthier, as my, as I'm, you know, Brian Johnson, for example. Yeah. He has the blueprint.
Starting point is 01:15:17 for longevity. People can look at that blueprint and say, oh, he's an idiot. Oh, he's taking it too far. But when you look at the fruits, right, you look at the fruits, then you can determine what is real and what is his fruits? That he is removed all microplastics from his body, that he has reduced aging. And what is his diet?
Starting point is 01:15:40 It's a vegan diet. He has all of his amino acids. He has all of his resources. It's the blueprint, not for immortality. that's where he that's where the fallacy is is the it's the ability to live a long life have you watched a video called in shadow it's it's a video in shadow
Starting point is 01:15:58 that describes how society has inverted and warped everything have you ever killed a cow have you ever slit the I personally have never I go hunting though for sure and have you ever looked at the eyes of a cow when you're about to butcher it no So everything is frequency, everything is emotion, everything is energy.
Starting point is 01:16:21 What is the energy of that animal that it leaves in the flesh? We talk about adrenochrome. I'm sure you know what adrenaline is. Do you know what a drone is? No, I actually don't. So all the elites, when they murder children and they drink their blood, they put them in a state of fear, right? And they put them in a state of fear because the adrenaline comes into the blood and it fuses.
Starting point is 01:16:41 That gives you a rush that tastes good, that makes it. you feel good like vampires when you that's why the Quran and the Torah talk about this idea of how you should kill a cow or how you should prepare me if you're going to prepare it which says it needs to be done in a way that doesn't cause what fear because fear induces adrenalinechrome a drenachrome becomes an addiction sounds really schizo but if you look at monsters ink right the movie yeah what do they do what do the monsters do in order to fill themselves up Fear. They get the fear cans. Fear cans, right? So fear is how these animals experience their final moments,
Starting point is 01:17:23 and then that's translated into the tension of the muscle. That's translated into the blood, and that's what people are eating. People are so disconnected from God. So removed from nature that they go to a store, they look at a piece of meat, and they don't understand what is taking place. They don't understand the process. They pick up a vegetable full of genetically modified sequences full of pesticides, and they think that it's healthy. It's not. We've removed God so far from the equation that it's so hard for us to really be able to understand
Starting point is 01:17:57 what the world was like thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago when we walked in perfect communion with him. There's a reason why God did not say, hey, go kill this cow that I created. God said, I have given you all the fruits that eat from. I've given you all these things they eat from. You can have them as much as one. Just don't eat from that one thing. But the animals, they were there to be what, steward and taken care of and protected.
Starting point is 01:18:27 So as much as I love Paul, and Paul has had his part in the idea of, or in the history of the church, and in the history of Christianity, when people say, let's open up the word of God and let's read what God says. That's not what God says.
Starting point is 01:18:42 That's what Paul said. And Paul wrote it under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. And we have to be able to be very specific in understanding what a man says and what God says. Why did God when he came to Moses? Why did he only give him 10 commandments?
Starting point is 01:19:02 Why not more letters and why not more things? Why only 10 commandments? Well, he elaborates more. No. Moses elaborates more because the people were in sin. So Moses has to continue creating structures and creating layers and layers because people were disobedient to the point where you have Moses spend time on Mount Zion and he has the tablets. He comes down with the tablets. And he looks over and he's like, bro, I just came back and you guys have already created a golden calf.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Let me take these stubborn people and let me give them structure, structure, structure. That's why we have the church. I have my pastor here on the other side of the camera, and we often talk about the importance of the church. And the church is there for one word, structure. Yeah, structure is not necessarily bad. It's a great thing. It's a great thing.
Starting point is 01:19:52 But that's what Moses did, right? Moses created structure. But he created structure as a layer two to the fundamental truths. So that people that were babies in the faith per se or that didn't understand the full knowledge of God or that weren't necessarily thinking about God all day long. They followed these things to protect them. That's my thesis.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm wrong. I think it's interesting. So like in Leviticus, like when he's given all 613 laws or whatever, he's like constantly saying, and the Lord said, and the Lord said, and the Lord said. And so when I look in the New Testament and the Pharisees are like, hey, Jesus, out of all of the law, which is the best?
Starting point is 01:20:31 Because they knew they could like blaspheme Jesus. He's only two. He's like that. And he, well, he summarizes it under that truth that he quotes
Starting point is 01:20:38 from Deuteronomy 25, I think. He literally quotes it from the Old Testament because he's a straight gangster, but he summarizes it under that truth of like,
Starting point is 01:20:48 when you love God, it's not like a target, like you're shooting at a target, when you love God it like manifests from within your heart. Yes. Because your heart is his. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:58 So I love God and love your neighbor as yourself. Mm-hmm. Jesus said both of them. I got to ask though, because you said the ingredients. What's your favorite dessert? Everyone knows you got that healthy ingredients. I like vanilla ice cream, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:14 A real good vanilla, Italian vanilla ice cream. Amazing. And are you making that with your ingredients or you go somewhere in your? Raw milk, which was banned by the Rothschilds in the British Parliament, which everybody should attempt to find some raw milk, some raw milk, some Madagascar vanilla, some good honey, perfect combo.
Starting point is 01:21:37 All right. So if you could have a conversation with your future self or yourself at 10 years old, which would you have a conversation with? 10 years old for sure. What would you tell 10 year old Luke? Buy Bitcoin,
Starting point is 01:21:51 that's funny. Okay. You mentioned the... You see, I'm human too, everybody. You mentioned the Wouldn't we have all loved that? You know? We wouldn't be having to work.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Would you just be straight chilling? Yeah, Bitcoin or Dogecoin? Dogecoin, whatever it was, you know? Like, yeah, I just, I'm more chilled than this podcast makes me out to be. I'm just having a real conversation with you. No, no, for sure. You mentioned, I really wanted to ask you, do you know who runs, like who runs the world? Satan.
Starting point is 01:22:29 But people, organizations, are elites. There is no. Who's being influenced by Satan? Everybody that does not submit to Christ. But you mentioned like the Rothschilds and stuff like that, like a child sacrifice, blood drink and stuff. Have you seen anything like that being empowered? I have seen more than you can imagine things that we can talk about off camera,
Starting point is 01:22:48 but the world gets very vile. Evil has no limit. Evil has no boundaries. What is the most demonic thing you've seen that you can talk about publicly? My own pride. I know you've seen some crazy stuff. The most demonic thing is the pride of my heart. Outside of yourself.
Starting point is 01:23:20 The pride of others. The pride is what leads to the fall. Have you seen like... If you're asking me what I've seen, I've seen... I just don't want to offend the audience or say some crazy stuff. I can tell you off camera. But it's not about what is the action. The action is just a reverberating effect of what's inside.
Starting point is 01:23:37 So what is inside? Inside is an enmity towards God. enmity towards God. That is what leads to everything outside. Whether it's you stealing or whether it's you murdering a child, God does not view it any differently. To God, it's the same. To God, it's disobedience.
Starting point is 01:23:57 To God it's dishonor. To God is rejection of him. Whether small or big, same, same. That's why Jesus died for everybody's sin. All the sins received while the same penalty. So what is the consequence of murdering a child and stealing? The cross. The sacrifice was the same.
Starting point is 01:24:21 So the cost and the depth of the sin is still the same because of what it costs God, himself, Jesus. So the small thing is just as big as the big thing because God says, well, what did it cost me to take care of the small sin? Well, it cost me myself. Does that make sense? No, that makes sense. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 01:24:45 Well, yeah. I mean, it's so interesting. I don't know if you know who Cliff and Cliff Conneckley is. He's like, he does like college campus stuff. He's like an older guy. I don't know if you've ever seen like videos of him. Is he the guy with the curly hair? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I like him a lot. We were just with him the other day and I kept asking him like, what do you think about like, you know, transgender stuff going on or stuff like that? And he's like, it's all the same just in a new font. You know, it's all a root. The root is pride. The root is selfish as whatever it may be. And I thought that was interesting because sometimes we focus on the noise of, oh, we got something new.
Starting point is 01:25:20 We got, you know, transgenderism or whatever. It's new in the last, it's like a popular thing within the last hundred years, even though it's been around a long time. It's super popular now. People hyper fixate on it. But it's like, this has been going on. Or the thing you mentioned about abortion. Like, yeah, it's been going on, maybe just in a different context. And people were offering that stuff up to Ball and other.
Starting point is 01:25:40 God's like back in the day. So I mean, I'm like, yeah, it's been going on. But I think we do focus on a lot of the noise rather than the heart of the issue. We have to look at the essence of things. The essence of things. Righteousness, unrighteousness. Holiness, unholliness. Very binary. When you look at the essence of things, that's all you need to understand. God is a God of order. And he is a God of justice. And he is a God of impartiality. And he is a good God. That's why we need to understand.
Starting point is 01:26:19 People say, one sin is worse than the other. It's not, what are you gauging it towards? You're gazing it towards the suffering that it causes to this planet. Or do you gauge it towards the suffering that it costs Christ on the cross? Because Jesus would have come if it was just you and me sinning. And doing nothing. just disrespecting each other, he would have still died for us
Starting point is 01:26:42 because he would have left the 99 to go get the one. So it's looking at what it costs God that determines the weight of the sin, not the actions of how it affects the planet today, but what it costs God, Jesus, in order to purify us and cleanse us from that unrighteousness,
Starting point is 01:27:04 which was the shedding of his blood. But the beauty is that that his perfect goodness allowed him to come into the game, glitch into the game. And the reason it's a glitch is what I call a glitch is like you have this program, right? You have this matrix program, this construct.
Starting point is 01:27:21 You have Adam. Adam messes up, right? He's not able to maintain perfect unity with God, but he's created in the image and likeness of God. And then 2,000 something years later, whatever the timeline is, who knows. But sometime later, Jesus rolls in through the virgin womb
Starting point is 01:27:38 so he's no longer part of sin nature because there is no connection with the man so it's a new a new lineage and that's why he was able to walk perfectly had Jesus sinned once he would have proven that he wasn't God
Starting point is 01:27:54 had Jesus chosen this was all choice that's why that's why when he's led by the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil he puts himself in such a state of vulnerability to what to be tested at the deepest level. Power, hunger, temptation.
Starting point is 01:28:15 So Jesus puts himself in these places to what, to fulfill the law. Yeah. Not only does he die, but he spends three days in hell. Hades, I think, to get the keys of sin and death. And then he rises again from the dead. That's why he says to the rich man, hey, preserve my body, you know, like he'll take my body. Because in three days I'm coming back and then you have the transfiguration, right,
Starting point is 01:28:42 where Jesus completely changed and then he ascends into heaven. I love him. He is, he is, he is everything. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. In him, all things are made. And outside of him, nothing really works. So instead of focusing on, the noise like you said.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Focus on what does God want for you now. And if you break everything down to its most basic common denominator, we talk about math. You know, complicated equations. How do you solve complicated equations? You break them down
Starting point is 01:29:27 to their most basic common denominator to understand them. And if you break everything down to its most basic common denominator, which is love God with all your mind, soul, strength and love others as you love what yourself yourself these are the two greatest laws it's a beautiful thing and it's a it's a process of understanding it's a process of realization and
Starting point is 01:29:55 not just understanding and realization but then finally a process of submitting because to know is not enough you must do with what you know you care if i pray for us to close us out let's do it Jesus, thank you so much for today, God. Thank you for our time. Thank you for breath. Thank you for allowing Luke and Hanyel to come with us. Lord, we just love you. We thank you.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Protect Luke. Continue to guide him. Continue to speak to him. Continue to speak to me. Continue to guide me. Bring us conviction and continue to transform us in your love. God, we love you. We thank you in Jesus' name.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Amen. One last thing for the audience. If you enjoyed this, comment on the comment section, be real. comment be real if this conversation has impacted you and pushed you forward to being more like the realest one than the game thank you for having me brother dude thanks for coming on i appreciate you yes

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