The Bryce Crawford Podcast - OnlyFans Star Sophie Rain Says Jesus Is Her Best Friend

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

OnlyFans Star Sophie Rain Says Jesus Is Her Best Friend

A lot of people think OnlyFans, you're having sex on camera. That's what everyone thinks. I don't do that. I'm a virgin. I've never had sex. There was one single subscriber on your OnlyFans that spent almost $5 million on you in 11 months? Yes. Is there any part of you that feels convicted about what you're doing on OnlyFans?

I mean, I can't lie and say no. I don't think I should look back and be like, forgive me, Lord, for my sins because I was on OnlyFans. I know in my heart who I am, and that's how I sleep well at night. I've had people come and swap my house before. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being absolutely certain, one, not confident at all. How confident are you that if you died right now, you'd go to heaven? I mean, I... Hey, before we dive in, if these videos have meant anything to you, if they've helped your faith or brought you closer to God in any way,

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I'm Bryce. and today we are with Sophie Rain. Hello. Thank you so much for having me, Bryce. I really appreciate this. I'm pumped that you actually came on. This is fun. And thanks for being in the studio with us.

It means a lot. I love it. It's so cute in here. Thank you. I love it so much. It's very comfortable. I know. I like the colors in here.

It's kind of my vibe. Yeah, I love it. So tell me, you know, a lot of people know a lot of different things about you. But before we kind of get into some stuff, who is Sophie Ray? Sophie Rain. I am a content creator online. 21 years old. I started around 2023 posting content on every single platform. And that's just what I've been doing ever since. So what was life like growing up for you? It was hard. It was a

struggle. I mean, we grew up on food stamps. We didn't have a lot of money. Like, I remember, like, the first memory I have is, like, my parents stealing food from the grocery store because like they didn't have enough money to buy groceries that week. And like, that's just how I grew up. I ended up living with my grandparents for a little bit. So it was just, it was, it was a struggle. And how many siblings do you have? I have three siblings. Okay. So it's an older brother, older sister, me, younger brother.

And your parents are still together? Yes, they're still together. And you grew up in Florida, right? Florida. Florida, born and raised. Wow. And so what was that just like, where do you land in the siblings? Are you like second youngest or you?

I'm second youngest. Okay. So what was that kind of like growing up and seeing your family visibly struggling like that? I mean, I literally remember like I'm going to change this. Like I remember growing up like that because I grew up really depressed. Like I think it also had a lot to do with my home life. But I just like I remember watching my parents struggle and I was like, I want to fix this. Like I can't let them live like this for the rest of their life. So I retired them. They live in a house. I bought them. They take care of my animals whenever I travel. It's really great having them around. So you went from growing up on food stamps. So then you retiring it. So from a young age, how old would you say you were when you were like, I'm going to change our family's circumstances? I think when I realized that's what I wanted to do It was probably around like middle school

I think like around seventh seventh grade I just I remember falling really deep in depression and like I just couldn't live like that anymore And I hated seeing my parents struggle Because it just it caused a lot of fights in the house And it was really hard It was really hard growing up like that And you did you grow up with a faith?

I did yes we went to church every Sunday I remember one of my favorite parts of my childhood Was VBS it was so much fun and then we eventually started teaching for VBS. But ever since I moved away from that, I haven't been doing that as much. And are you still kind of connected with your faith at all a little bit or kind of tell me about that? Oh, yes. I talked to my pastor. I would like to talk to him more often, but I join our little live stream church that they have because ever since COVID, they started doing a live stream,

which is so great for me because I travel so much. So I try to tune into that every Sunday. And then, yeah, I just keep my faith in my mind all the time. So you grew up, family struggling, food stamps, grew up in church. So I got to ask, because I grew up, I'm from Georgia, so I grew up in church. But my circumstance was like, praise God, I didn't have the same shoes where like we weren't living off food stamps. So my experience of going to church was we're going to church because everybody goes to church. Yeah. Was that similar for you guys or was that more of your parents were trying to lean on the church because you guys were going through a hard time?

I feel like it was a little bit of both. My parents, they had a lot of friends in church, and they also worked with those friends in church. So it was nice because that was like the one time that we all got together in the morning. You know, we'd go to church. I've known my pastor for my entire life. He's been the same pastor throughout my whole life. Oh, so it is the same guy that you guys grew up with. Yes, yes.

His name's Pastor Greg. I love him so much. He's so sweet. And he was like, he was my Wednesday night school teacher for church at first. And then it was just really nice because he got to watch me grow. And it's just a nice community. And that was like the one thing that we could hold on to because that wasn't ever changing, you know. Yeah.

What did you believe about God when you were like 10, 11, 12 years old? I feel like just the pretty similar stuff to everyone. Like I obviously, I was reading the Bible. You know, God, he's there for me. You could talk to him at any point. He's, you know, the father. And it was just, it was nice because I had someone that I could pray to every night when I was really depressed. I would fall back on God.

What did you think your life was going to look like at a young age? I mean, obviously, you're on OnlyFans, but back then, I don't even think OnlyFans was created if it was. No one knew about it. So, like, what did you think when you were young going, I want to change my family's circumstance? What did you think your life was going to look like? Honestly, I thought that it was going to look very similar to my parents. I didn't think that I was going to be able to make money just because of my background. And, like, my parents didn't have anything to set us up with, you know? And like, it's not their fault. I understand. Like, it's a struggle. Everyone struggles in today's economy. So I just knew that I was going to work hard, no matter where it got me. I was serving for three years at a restaurant. I was busting my ass. I was picking up doubles every, I probably worked at least 50 hours a week, just trying. As a waitress? As a waitress. What restaurant? It was called Papa Joe's. It was a cute little mom and pop place. It was Italian food. It was so good. And I would work constantly, constantly, constantly. And like, I started, paying like bills for the house because I was still living with my parents at the time. So I was trying everything I could to, you know, help them. And then I got this great opportunity. And now I was able to retire them. I set up opportunities for them. And it's, it's been awesome. I'm very blessed. And you get, so you got fired from that job, right? I did. So what happened? So Papa

Joe's was a very Christian restaurant. Like that they were closed on Sundays, like all that kind of stuff. And he was just very around religion. And he saw that I created an only fans. And they fired. me because of that. And how does that make you feel? I mean, I believe everything happens for a reason. I wasn't mad. I didn't feel any type of way I understood. Like, I can't fight them on that. That's their opinion. And it was okay. You know, I knew that I was going to be, I was going to be okay because regardless I have God. At that time when you were working 50 hours a week or whatever, and then you had created the only fans, right when you got fired? What was your financial situation when you got fired? I think I had $2,000.

Okay. And that was it to my name. So you had created OnlyFans, but you weren't making like money on it. Yeah. Oh, no. No. I think the first big, big month I had on OnlyFans was probably around three to four months after I launched it. I think that I hit $100,000 a month.

Oh, my gosh. By three months in. And oh, my, I thought I owned the world. Is that normal or no? I feel like, I feel like I got very lucky. what I did, it's a way that you promote yourself online. What I did is I was posting and I created an audience for myself before I dropped my only fans. So I had a following on TikTok.

I had an Instagram. People started to follow me just because of what I was doing. And then I launched my only fans. And I feel like that definitely helps. Dang. Yeah, I want to get into and a little bit kind of about that and like talk about only fans and Christianity and stuff like that. But I think it's fascinating. So Papa Joe's, it wasn't.

wasn't like a Christian restaurant, just the owners were Christian. Yes, yes. So they fired you because they didn't want you serving customers and being an only fan at same time. So you get fired. You, now, when did you start the only fans before you got fired? Was it like a week before you got fired, two weeks a month? I, it was very, it was like a couple days.

Oh, wow. It was like a few days because I had a lot of people that I worked with that didn't like me just because I, I kept like, I, I pride. my work ethic. I worked very hard and I was picking up shifts. People didn't like that. I was working so hard because they like, I didn't understand it. I'm like, I'm just trying to make money. And so as soon as I dropped it, all of my coworkers went to my boss and told him. Whose idea was only fans? Mine. It was my idea. My friend was into it and I message her because she was all of a sudden, she's driving a Tesla and she's at an apartment that, you know, a high-rise apartment in

Tampa and I'm like, how are you doing this? Like, I need to know, I need to make money. I want to help my family out. Like, what can I do? And she showed me OnlyFans and then I joined a couple months later. Wow. So you just reached out to a friend who has some outward financial success. And so it seems, it seems that like you really just want to be financially stable. Yes. Random side question, because I got to ask, in your mind, because we're going to get there. You've made a lot of money. I've made a lot of money. I'm very blessed.

In your mind, what is enough? What is enough money? I don't think that there's a number, honestly. I feel like if all of the money that I had right now disappeared, it's, you know, I'm not going to die with my money. It doesn't matter to me. It's very, I can't, you know, I'm not going to lie and say that I would be fine. Obviously, it's devastating if I lost everything I had because I'm supporting so many people now at this point.

But there wasn't like a number in my head that I would. wanted to reach, you know. So do you feel like you're going to be on an endless chase of money if you don't have that number? I don't think so. I'm very comfortable. It was hard because, like, I got all this money and, like, I've never seen anything like that before in my life. It was, like, what? And I had to learn how to use it. And obviously, like, it's hard having, it's hard because you just have so many responsibilities. But I don't think that, you know, I'm going to keep going so I can have the most money in the entire world. Like, I'm very comfortable.

I was able to retire my parents. They are now all living comfortably. Like, I think that was my biggest goal. That is my biggest goal. When you started OnlyFans, did you tell anyone about it? I didn't, actually. I hit it for a couple weeks, a couple months maybe. And then my parents found out.

How did your parents find out? Someone, just a random person online, screenshoted it. They found my family online and then sent it to them, like, trying to blackmail me. And they were like, oh, pay me this much money and I'll stop sending your parents all. And like, like, whatever, do whatever you have to do.

My parents were very upset at first. They were upset because I didn't tell them, and they were just scared. I wasn't being safe, but I explained to them, like, this is what I'm doing. I have my boundaries. I'm not crossing these boundaries. I'm very safe with what I do,

and now they're very supportive, 100%. Okay, this is such a weird question, but did you pray about it before you signed up? I prayed every single night. I pray every single night about everything, and I don't think that God ever has steered me in the wrong direction. I believe that he has my greatest, you know, he wants me to do as best as I can, and he's not going to push me in a way that is not good for me.

Do you think God led you to do OnlyFans? I don't think he led me to do OnlyFans, but I definitely wouldn't be here if it's not in his plan. Okay, so when you say that, do you feel like that God let, like God brought you Onlyfans as an opportunity then? or, because how do you view it, right? I guess the way that you're saying it, it almost makes it sound like,

like you said, well, I don't think God led me to Onlyfans, but it's his plan that I'm here. So do you think, if it's his plan, do you think Onlyfans was a part of that plan for your life? I mean, I don't pretend to know all the answers to these questions. I think that regardless, if I wasn't meant to be in the situation, God would steer me in a different way. I pray to him every single night,

and, you know, I've made it here so far. I'm still here. I don't believe that OnlyFans is going to be my entire life. Truthfully, I don't want it to be my entire life. So I'm really looking forward to the next chapter that he's going to steer me towards. And what did you think you were signing up for when you signed up for only fans? I had a pretty good idea of what I was signing up for. I think I also pride, like, just my mental because I know where my boundaries are.

And I've never crossed them once. And I knew what I was signing up for. Obviously, a lot of people think Onlyfans, you're having sex on camera. That's what everyone thinks. I don't do that. I'm a virgin. I've never had sex. And like, I don't cross those boundaries for other people online because I know what I want to put out in the world. And yeah, I just, I know. I'm very strict about that. Can I ask what your boundaries are? I don't get naked on camera. I don't ever really do that. And yeah, that's where I cross the line. So you cross the line at taking your coast completely off. That's where you cross it on OnlyFans. And that's been a boundary from the jump. From the jump.

Yeah, I know that's so, I wasn't expecting you to say that you had boundaries because I've had, so I moved to L.A. when I was 18 and I started a Bible study out here. And it was like a no phone Bible study. We had like a lot of social media people come through and we just wanted people to feel comfortable, a lot of non-Christians. And we had a ton of girls that would show up. And the common theme was this. It would be girls did social media. And so they started making money. So they make a bunch of money of their lifestyle. would increase. And then right when I moved to LA, a lot of brands stopped paying creators. So then there was like a drop off. And so they, because their money decreased, they weren't willing to decrease their lifestyle. So they turned to Onlyfans, right? So there was a financial drive, which I hear a financial drive and you. And they would come to us crying because what would start out as someone telling them, hey, you just have to post in a bikini before you know it. but they were going on dates with escorts, and they have no idea how they got there.

And that wasn't like one or two. I mean, that was like a common theme that we were hearing from women that were seeking refuge and praise God that we had some incredible female leaders at this Bible study. You were helping, but so when I hear stuff like that, that breaks my heart.

And it just makes me sad. And, you know, we can get into a little bit of my story later, but I, you know, I think, I think it's fascinating how many people have the wrong idea, right? Because there's girls that see your success on only fans, and then they're going to sign up for the same success, but then they don't have the same success as you. They make $200 in a month,

and then now not only did their financial status decrease, they could have made more money waiting tables at Apapa Joe's than starting on only fans, but now their body's online. So they've kind of hit a double law, where it's like, okay, I try to make a bunch of money and it failed. And I've exposed myself online to now friends, people that I knew growing up, loved ones. Someone's a grandma. I could see, I mean, you know, someone sent your family that.

I mean, you have had that impact where you make people want to start only fans. Does that make you feel guilty that you have done that? Or how do you feel about that? I don't feel guilty. I do feel very sorry about girls that are going through that because it is a problem. in today's society, a lot of girls get pressured into doing this because they're like, I need quick money, you know, like, I need to do this. But I'm very open about the pros and cons about my job. I've talked about it multiple times online. It's not for everyone. It's very hard

to do this. And I'm still working on like making sure I'm good, you know, like, it's hard to do this. There's times where I'm like, I don't know if I need to be doing this. Like, this is really hard for me and like, just mentally, you know? And it's very sad to hear what you were just saying because a lot, I know a lot of people personally that have done the same thing. And I try to tell them, don't ever cross that boundary. Do not ever listen to what other people try to tell you what to do. Just do what you're comfortable with. And I just don't understand why they try to push and go further. Like, it's just not meant for everyone, you know. Before you had that $100,000 month, what was your first month looking like financially? My first month was, honestly,

it was huge. It was huge. It was 20,000 was the first month. Your first ever month. My first ever month was 20,000 because I was I was promoting myself before. I started a TikTok. I started all, all the platforms and I'm posting, I'm posting, you know, constantly all the time every single day. And I grew a following and then I dropped it. And I, that's what helped me skyrocket my account in the beginning. When did you realize that there was going to be life changing money on the table for you, your family? That first month was life changing money. Really? That first month was huge. And I gave half of it to my mom and dad immediately. I was like, pay off all your bills. I know you're like clear this out, clear your credit card bills, like anything you guys need. Like, I'm trying.

What's the most amount of money you've made in a single year? The most amount of money I've made in a single year was $46 million. $46 million? $46 million. I made $46 million last year. Yes. And how long have you been on the platform? I've been on the platform for about three years. It's like two and three quarters. Yeah.

So what kind of effect does that kind of money happen? have on someone your age? A lot of people, this was a big issue that my family was worried about is they were scared I was going to change. Obviously, you see it on like documentaries, people, you know, people start getting into drugs and they have all this money now and they're, you know, buying prostitutes, all this stuff. I haven't changed. I'm still the same person I was growing up.

I own a farm in Tampa. That's what I do in my free time when I'm not traveling. I'm shoveling cow shit off my driveway. Like, I feel like that's where I'm most happy. I love being out there. I love working on the farm. I'm pretty sure I broke my toe a couple months ago because my cow stomped on it. But I just, I love doing that.

That's where I'm the most happiest. So, you know, I remember meeting, we did a podcast like a year ago with Dwight Howard. He's an NBA guy. And I just remember hearing stories of like, I think he was 18 or 19 when he got into the NBA. And I mean, you know, you just, you hear time and time again athletes that get tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars. Now with the college NIL stuff, I mean, kids are getting hold of money at that age in college, which can be good. You know, some people that come from a rough upbringing that, you know, are kind of in your situation, but athletics is their deal, right? They get to help their family and things like that. But on the contrary, you hear a ton of horror stories that it ruins people. Why did that money not ruin you on a practical side? I fully believe it's my faith. Like I'm very close with God and I believe that every person's relationship that they have with God is private. I don't think that you should bloat about it and be like, oh, I have, you know, I'm a better Christian than you. Like, that's not a real thing. You know, everyone has their own relationship with God and how they view God. And I think that's the beautiful thing about being a Christian. And I just, I pray every single night and I know that I wouldn't be here if it wasn't in God's plan. And one day I hope to just, you know, retire and own an animal rescue. That's That's what I want to do with my money is I want to donate it.

I just donated over, I think right now we're about over $400,000 in donating to teachers in Florida. Well, we're now donating to teachers nationwide now. But that's what we're doing right now. And I love giving back because I know what it's like struggling and not growing up with money. And right now, like everyone is struggling. The economy sucks. Like the world just, it's hard. So I'm trying my best to give back in ways that I can.

Do you think, well, actually I'll say that. then a second. So you said the money didn't change you, but did it change people around you that were in your proximity, friends, distant family? Not really. I don't really have many friends. I'm going to be honest. I grew up. I think that's another reason why I grew up depressed is I didn't have friends in middle school, high school. I had one good friend and she's still my best friend. I love her. Her name's Lauren. She's really awesome. We live close to each other. But yeah, that was my only friend. And I think like a couple people have reached out from high school that I was like, you know, acquaintance with it. But other than that, I don't think, I don't think so.

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I know things about this person. He doesn't like, I've talked about him before. He got mad. So I know personal things about this person, but he doesn't like to be talked about. But I still talk to him. So, okay. He's my number one fan.

All right. So I got to ask you this because I know, I know this is how this works. I've talked to, you know, the people of the Bible study, I know people that have left only fans for Jesus. I know a lady, she used to be a manager for an only fan.

agency and then left. When people are paying to talk to you, it's not really you. It's somebody else texted on the end. Most of the time, I try to get it to be me. I do text a lot of times when I am home, but most of the time, I have people helping me. It's impossible to be doing it. Like, I wouldn't be able to be doing it right now. But I do go on there and I do text a lot. Okay, but scratch the sexual side of only fans. Let's just talk about like someone thinks they're texting Sophie Ray. but it's a 40-year-old manager that's texting on your behalf. Oh, no, no, no, it's not a 40-year-old manager. I have, like, my close, like, I know this is going to sound strange,

but I don't do anything crazy sexual online, but my sister will help me. My mom will help me. People that are close to me that know me will help me. So I only, I don't try to reach out and have, like, just random men on my account because, like, I don't want to do that. So, but does that not make you feel guilty that, like, these people think that they're paying to talk to you,

but they're talking to, like, your mom or your sister or something like that? I don't believe so. I get on there very often and I try to chat with every single person on there, at least, you know, as much as I can. I don't feel guilty because regardless, like, you're paying for a relationship online. Like, I'm going to do my best to give you that, you know, because it's not cheap. So I'm going to, I'm not going to just have you pay this and then not message you because I'm busy. I'm going to make sure you get the greatest experience you can because I feel like that's what people deserve. But does that not like, just in general, the idea of only fans, like not only people paying. for pictures and videos. I'm talking people paying to talking to you. Does that not scare you of where we're going as society is going? Because we're talking like just social media in general, people think that they have a relationship with you, the parasocial thing, just because they see pictures and videos on you. So I can imagine you've probably had some run into people that are subscribed to you that are weird, right? Definitely. I've had, I have multiple stalkers. That is a very,

that's a con that I am very vocal about. That's one big, about being on the website is I have multiple people trying to find me all the time. I just had flowers sent to my house. My house is wiped off the internet. Like you cannot just search up my address. And there's people still finding it. I have had people come and swap my house before while I'm there. Like it's not fun. It's really hard to be in this industry. But I don't believe, you know, it's fine. I think it's right. I think it's, I think just it's interesting because now with AI, you have people literally becoming romantically involved with the robot. And like to you and I, I don't know about you.

To me, that sounds freaking crazy. That sounds insane to me. I don't know about you. Sounds insane to me. But then to think that like the step before being romantically involved with the AI is being, is paying for a relationship with someone across the screen, right? And I think that is, that just fascinates me because, you know, that just shows that there's people out there that are doing that because they're lonely. Maybe they felt like you did when you were growing up or they're sad and they're depressed and they feel like the adult. only way to, you know, do that is by paying for it, you know? And like, I remember this is like

kind of maybe same idea. I don't know if you know, there's like TikTok live agencies, you know, that like teach you how to go in TikTok live and battle and like make money on TikTok. And there was one that I know about, that I'm not going to say anything about, but there was one that literally had a course that would teach people, like how to make the most money on there. And it would tell men, if they have the ability to grow facial hair, to grow facial hair, because it makes the single moms want to give them more money. That's interesting. And stuff, like, it would tell them stuff like that on this course. And that rubbed me the wrong way because I'm like, okay, you're actively taking advantage of people's situations and scenarios by, you know, growing facial hair and knowing that there's

going to be single moms who are going to be attracted to your facial hair, and so they're going to send you money. Like that, that's crazy. And so now that's, you know, obviously you can't. You can't macro facial hair, but the principle is applied to like an only fan scenario where it's, okay, well, they can't get a relationship with you in person, so they're going to pay you for it. Does that not scare you? Do you not feel any type of way? Do you think maybe you don't feel some type of way if you don't because you've been doing it for so long? Is that why? I mean, I'm very intentional with everything I put out online. Like I said, I don't cross boundaries that I'm not comfortable with. Like, I make sure everything I put out is intentional and I'm happy

with it. And I can't speak on other people's actions. Obviously, there's, you know, people online that have it out for others. And I think that's very awful. And I think that's why, as a human race, like, it's just going downhill from here because people are just getting crazier and crazier. But I try to be as positive as I can online. I like being able to have a relationship with fans online because, like you said, like some people don't have that. And it's nice because I feel like it gives a new door onto OnlyFans because OnlyFans was originally created to be a workout site. it wasn't a porn website. It was like a Patreon.

Yeah, it was like a, yeah, like a... It was intended to be like a place where gym people could sell their workouts. And I feel like it doesn't have to be all sexual on only fans. I think it's really nice that I can't connect with fans directly and get to know them better that way. And like I said, I, everything I put out is intentional. I don't try to do anything ill will for anyone just because it's so hard nowadays. Sure, yeah. I think the unfortunate thing about only fans, though, is no one, no one's going on only fans.

selling, you know, like pictures of them in a onesie. You know what I mean? I know someone who's selling recipes on OnlyFans. You know, that is news to me. I've never heard that. And in my opinion, I don't think anyone's going on OnlyFans looking on where they can buy a recipe. You know what I mean?

No, that's the part of the reason, you know, there's a stigma around OnlyFans. That's your part of the problem. Like, it's, it's meant to be just a paid website. You know, you could pay for anything on there. But obviously, it's turned to this big thing. Well, yeah. But what, I mean, what is, all the, like most of the content on there is sexual. And then I think the step down from that is

fan fix, right? It's kind of the same thing. Yes. But I mean, it's, it's turned into a sexual platform. If someone hears the term only fans, they're not going to think, oh, it's a paywall platform. They're going to think, oh, there's sexual content on there, right? That's why it is kind of a meme. Like for me, and like, I want to be respectful because you're a lady. But when I, when I grew up, like I got exposed to pornography in the fifth grade from a meme on the beach from someone I didn't know, right? So my battle from the fifth grade until I became a Christian with this secret sexual sin came from somebody showing me a meme. And so not only is the truth of only fans sexual, but there's jokes around it. You know what I mean?

There's the logo, the jokes. And it grabs people's attention whether you're involved in it or not because sex sells. People know that the icon is associated with sexual sin and sexual stuff. So they're willing to, you know, throw it up on a picture, throw it up in a thumbnail or something like that. Like I've noticed some of our thumbnail designers, if we talk about sexual sin, like do a whole episode teaching people to avoid sexual sin,

they'll throw the OnlyFans logo up there because they know that people associate that with this. I mean, does that, I mean, I kind of want to get into Christianity and how you view Jesus and theology and your job and stuff. like that. But I mean, I want to ask this before you get into this part, is there any part of you that feels convicted about what you're doing on only fans? I can't lie and say no. Obviously, it's, you know, social media is just a hard place to be online anyways. Like, it's, there's just so much online, but I don't pretend to know all the answers. I'm still building a

relationship with my faith and God. Every single day, I'm only 21. Like, I'm very young. Still, I'm still figuring it out. But that is something I'm going to. to, you know, try to understand more about because it is something I do question. Yeah. Who, who, what, so you, you claim to be Christian, what does that mean to you? Like, what does being a Christian mean to you? Um, I mean, I just, I have a relationship to God. That's just how I grew up. I was born into a Christian church. And I pray. I talk to God. I watch church every Sunday. And yeah, that's, I'm a Christian. What do you think about Jesus? Um, I mean, I think he's,

you know, forgiving. I think he's forgiving. Now, when you say, are you thinking in mind that of the work that you do in comparison to his forgiving nature? And so you're saying, well, Jesus is forgiving, so he's going to forgive me of what I'm doing? Is that kind of what you're implying? I mean, he forgives everyone. You know, that's the beauty in Jesus is, no matter what you do at the end of the day, he's going to be by your side because he's not going to look at you the other way because you're doing something wrong. That's why I love Jesus because He's there for you.

You can talk to him every single day. Like, you can fall back on him when you're depressed, and that's what I did. That's just what I know. I mean, me and him are best friends, you know? Yeah, I mean, my stories, I don't know if you know much about my story, but I had depression and anxiety for years. Then I was going to take my life when I was 17,

and I had a supernatural encounter with Jesus inside of a Waffle House that changed my life. And I went to private Christian school. I had heard about Jesus, but this moment was different because I actually, left changed. Like my life looked different and continues to look different. Now I'm a broken human being. I fail.

I'm flawed. I'm recently married. I'm trying to learn how to be a good husband and I realize how selfish I am at times and I struggle with a plethora of things. But the overview net positive my life would say there's a steady increase of sanctification and being made

holy and stuff like that. So my life has looked different because of following Jesus. I want to talk to about the forgiving thing. Because I, so, you know, well, first of all, this is what I want to say to you is I feel bad sometimes for you because I know that there's other Christians out there that disagree with what you do, say, like, I disagree with what you're doing.

But they can be mean and rude online and they're not willing to have a conversation with you, which I feel bad for you in that way. I don't think it is fair sometimes for people to be mean to you. I don't think it's fair. but also at the same time, I also, whenever you're talking about the forgiving nature of Jesus, it's almost like you're implying that you know what you're doing is wrong. And so you want Jesus to forgive you.

You know what I mean? Can you kind of tell me a little bit about that? Like, is that how you feel? Like, do you feel that way? I mean, I wouldn't imply it the way that you said it, but everyone does wrong. Everyone needs forgiving every single day. I think that, you know, you sin all the time, and I know I'm a sinner, you're a sinner, like, everyone does that.

And obviously, everyone has their own relationship privately with God. I'm still learning about a lot. And I understand what you said earlier about Christians. Like, a lot of them don't like me. And I understand fully. But obviously, I'm still trying to learn every single day. And I trust in God, and I believe that I am where I should be. And like I said, I don't want Only Fans to be my entire life.

I got really blessed and I never thought that I was going to have this much money. It's just still crazy to me. Like I don't believe it. And I'm trying to use that money to build a better life for me. So I can't step away from Onlyfans and go into a different direction. What is the better life for you? Like what do you imagine as a perfect picture better life? Well, I think I'm working towards it very well.

I have my farm that I'm currently working on. I want more land. I want a very big farm so I can rescue animals and live on like a family compound with my family. That's all I want at the end of the day, you know. You know, I think from an outside perspective, no one knows what you're doing, whatever, the idea of like I want land with a farm and rescue animals, blah, blah, blah. It's a great goal, right? It sounds great.

If I would have asked you this question when you were six, seven, eight years old, you might say, I just want my family to be off food stamps, right? So in my mind, the question then becomes like, the better life for you really just more things, right? Because you even said earlier, you barely mention it. There's a lot of responsibility that has just come with in general the fact that you have a lot of money. Yes. Right? So in my mind, when I think of you saying, well, I pray to Jesus every night and when I was depressed in middle school and high school, like I would talk to Jesus when I was depressed, like me reflecting on my life knowing that Jesus meeting me and my depression,

that right there was like the perfect life. And then everything else was like, an ad on, like me and my wife was an ad on and having good friends and, you know, things like that. To me, that's the good life. There's a quote by a guy, old Christian guy named George Mueller, and he said this thing about money. He said, if you're not currently satisfied with the amount of money in your bank account now, you'll never be satisfied with double the amount of your money in your bank account. And I always just thought that was so wise because it's true. Like, I experienced a brief amount of hustle. I was working 13 hours a day, seven days a week on boats and Florida up in Destin, Florida, if you know where that's at. I was doing stuff like that. So I kind of

understand the hustle and the grind and the work and the money and, you know, wanted to make a better life. Like, I care about you as a human being. And I was like, I think that there's so much for you more than just, you know, what you're doing now. I 100% agree with you. I want to do more. That's why this was just my foot at the door, you know? Like, I always believe that you got to have money to make money. And I'm trying to be able to set up my friends and family, I'm currently starting a business so I can employ all of my family. Like, that is my main goal is making sure everyone around me is comfortable because that's all I've ever wanted, you know? So, but I think based on your work ethic, the way you talked about, you know,

waiting tables 50 hours a week, like that shows me just from a practical side, excluding spirituality, that you were hardworking and smart enough to do something that doesn't involve only fans, right? And so, like, I believe that about you. I can see. your ambition by the way that you just talk about your family and just practical success and stuff like that. So whenever you say like, I just want my foot in the door, I'm over here going, well, to me, I think you could leave Only fans today and be fine not only because you, yeah, you sure you've made money. Just run practical side. I'm not even speaking Jesus. But I mean, you have a work ethic about you that makes me go, yeah, I know you would figure something out.

So what is the hesitation of leaving? I mean, I'm happy where I am. I'm. I'm happy where I am. It's not like I hate doing only fans and I think it's sinful and I need to leave. Like, I enjoy it. I genuinely do. I have fun because I connect with people online. And I think that's the beauty in it because I never had friends. Like I said, like it's nice to be able to talk to all these new bases and learn about things about people. And I'm meeting great people online.

Like right now I'm donating to, I think we've donated to over 500 teachers now. And I'm just learning about their situation. And it's nice to talk to them. And I'm clearing their Amazon wish list right now. So I had them all, you know, make a wish list for their. school year because they're, I don't know if you know everything that's going on about James Fishback in Florida right now. Yeah, the syntax stuff. Yes. Yes. So I'm doing that in honor of him losing. And yeah, that's, that's something that I want to do every single day. But like,

let me, let me ask you this, because I'm going down a bunch of rabbit holes, but like the giving, is it about, and I think giving to 500 teachers is amazing. I think it's absolutely incredible. But just in general, is giving to 500 teachers like the goal or is it, you know, the heart behind the giving, right? Because Jesus would say, there's a Pharisee that drops $5,000 in the bucket that's like, look at this money I'm giving. And then there's a widow that puts $5 in the bucket secretly, but that's all she has. And Jesus says, I like that better than I like the $5,000. And practically, you and I would look at that and go, well, you can do a whole lot more damage with the $5,000 than you can with the $5. But Jesus is like, well, the heart behind the lady's giving is pure, right?

It's just, I guess when you're saying this, like you have so many incredible ideas, but It breaks my heart for you, even though you don't think that what you're doing is wrong on only fans, for me to think that I'm seeing someone who cares about her family, who cares about taking care of their family, who is ambitious in general, and all of these things who's doing, who, I don't know if you feel like you have to or you want to or whatever it may be. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you're doing only fans to accomplish those things. when I'm like, man, you can accomplish those things with other people. In fact, like that's, we have found just like partnering with other Christians that, you know, I don't have the financial backing to pay for 500 teachers, but I could band together with a church or two,

and we could take care of 500 teachers with church because we're all coming under the truth of like, hey, we love Jesus. We want to impact people. Like, let's work together. You know what I mean? We're leaning on the body. So I just think when I'm hearing this about you, I'm like, man, I think, I think, think you could totally do this without doing the only fan stuff. And I, and I, I want to see that for you. And, and, I mean, let me ask you this. I mean this in a gentle way. Do you feel like that doing only fans

still respects yourself? I mean, I know I respect myself. I believe that it's, it depends on the person. And I want to say that my philanthropy doesn't make me think that I'm a better person than the next guy. Like I believe that I got blessed with a lot of money and I don't need this much money. Truthfully, I'm not going to say you're in lie. I don't need all this. So that's why I'm trying to give back to the community because I believe that's what people with a lot of money should be doing. I think the billionaire should be paying their taxes. I think that everyone should be helping each other right now because like you said, it's a body.

And we're all, you know, we're all one person and we all just need to be helping each other out because it's just so tough nowadays. But I don't think doing only fans like is disrespectful and like you should be frowned upon doing it. Like I still have a lot of respect for myself. I know a lot of people that have respect for me because I know as a person, I'm very nice to the next one. I'm not trying to be like, oh, I'm better than you because I make more money than you. Like I've never once thought that at all. And I just, I see everyone as equal. So there's a, there's a Bible verse in Matthew 18 where Jesus talks about,

and it's in Luke 17, I believe, where he's like, temptation is unavoidable in this lifetime. But then he says, woe to the one temptation comes through. And then he gives this crazy statement. He says, it is better for you to tie a millstone around your neck and jump in the ocean. Basically, he's like, it's better for you to tie a bunch of heavy weights around yourself

and jump in the ocean and, like, literally take your life, than it is to lead one of his children into sin. And he's describing the destructive nature of sin, right? That sin does a lot of things. And, you know, with all due respect, whether you believe it or not, like there are people that have gone down sexual addictions because they've joined only fans, whether that be your content or other people, right?

And so, as we're speaking in general, are there people that have sinned because of me in my past? Absolutely. I've heard a ton of people. It breaks my heart, knowing that I have to go back home and visit my family and see people in my hometown that I've hurt. Like, it genuinely breaks my heart. And then I've done wrong, burn bridges and used people. Like, it genuinely breaks my heart. But there are people that are actively being led into sexual sin because of OnlyFans, or let's even take it a notch back, right? Social media. How are people clicking on your link to go to OnlyFans, right? They're going to see a video of you online. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know what you do online, maybe doing something, whatever, and it leads them there. And in my mind, what leads them down that funnel?

They had to have seen something that wanted them to, quote, unquote, see more, right? And that, and that's a rabbit hole. So I guess when you think of it from that perspective going, there could be young men or older men or whatever it may be that are watching your content that are being led down temptation and sin and all this stuff, does that make you view what you're doing differently? What was that scripture you said in the beginning? Matthew 18. Yeah. So should I jump in the ocean and kill myself because I'm leading men into lust? I put everything out with intent and I believe that I can't control other people's actions.

Obviously, I have a lot to think about. Obviously, I believe everything you're saying and I understand where you're coming from. Like, as a fellow Christian, like, I get it. I'm not going to sit here and lie and pretend like I know all the answers, but I don't think I would be here if it wasn't in God's plan. Yeah, no, I definitely was not telling you to kill yourself in the ocean. No, no, no, no.

It's a metaphor that Jesus uses to show how detrimental, sin is, right? Because he's like... I believe that everyone's relationship with God is private and like you can interpret the Bible in any kind of way, I believe. Yeah, so, but like in that instance, sure, hermeneutics and like the way you interpret

your Bible, it can be up for Campbell, depending on how you, you know, what your theological standpoint is, but I mean, that seems kind of pretty cut and dry right there of going like, you know, people being led into temptation, you know, and so like I, I, again, like, I'm not even, I'm not

saying that as like, I'm trying to put you down. I'm trying to bring perspective to you because based on what you've said, you don't think what you're doing is wrong. I obviously think what you're doing is wrong. And I respect you as a human being. I mean, I don't, like, I want to correct you on that. I don't think I'm perfect. I 100% understand where everyone is coming from and I can see how there is wrong on this site. Like, obviously it's not the best thing in the world. I just think that it gave me a lot of opportunities so I can step forward and move away from this just because, like, I'm just, I'm happy with where I am. Like, I don't think I should look back and be like, forgive me, Lord, for like my sins because I was on Onlyfans. Like, I believe that I'm here for a reason

and I'm, I'm going to take everything that I can from this and keep moving forward and build a better relationship with Christ because, you know, everyone can get closer to God. So I also wanted to bring another idea to the table that you keep saying, like, I think God brought this into my life or, you know, however you keep phrasing it, that I wouldn't be here because of God's plan, things like that. Well, I want to propose this idea that Satan loves when we think we have good morals, right? So Satan is not opposed to good morals. I think Satan likes the idea that there are people that go to church on Sunday, and they think that they're going to be, they're going to go to heaven because they go to church on Sunday or because they read a devotional every month. or because they do these things. And he despises Jesus,

but he loves when people think that they're okay and they're on the straight and error because they have good morals, right? And in my opinion, Satan knows exactly what you want and you need. He knows what I want and what I need, right? It's easy to define what's bad and what's good, right? Because it's like, okay, I'm going to turn away the bad thing. I'm going to turn away the good thing.

But it's hard to deny a good door and a God door when money's on the table, right? money is an interesting thing because it can offer us temporarily what God can give us fully, right? Money gives people power, status. They can buy things. They can basically create their own world, especially with an amount of money that you have. I mean, people can do a whole lot, whatever they want with that kind of money. And so in my mind, when you're like, you know, I wouldn't be here without God.

God's doing this. I would actually say, I don't think God led you to do Onlyfans. I don't think God actually is a part of the Onlyfans. I think that in my personal opinion is that Satan is so good he doesn't have to convince people that they're fully in the wrong that he can convince people

that they're barely making the mark right that they're sitting on the fence there's this analogy that I've used where it's like there's a man and he has a dream and in the dream there's a giant grass field and it's split in half by a fence and on one side of the fence is Jesus and on the other side of the fence is Satan

and Satan says, which one are you going to have? Are you going to have Jesus? Are you going to have me? I can give you whatever you want. Jesus is only going to give you what you need. And the man looks at both of them and he laughs at them in the face and he sits on the fence. And in the dream, the dream goes black. And then out of the dark, Satan comes out of the dark and grabs a man by the shoulder.

And the man goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't choose you. I sat on the fence because I wanted a little bit of Jesus and I wanted a little bit of what you had to offer. And Satan grabs a man's shoulder harder. and he says, the fence belongs to me. And whatever I remind myself of that, it gives me like a fear of God to reflect on my life day to day going, is there any part of me that is thinking,

I like a little bit of the benefits of what the world has to offer? And I know you have these like boundaries who are like, I may not get naked on camera, I may not have sex on camera, but does it take that to lead someone to sin? And I would say, probably not. Like I know me.

It took a meme. It took a meme for me to go into sin. You know what I mean? And like, I'm willing to admit it. Like, it's so heartbreaking. And I think that in my mind, what God can offer you is far greater what you think you can get right now, if that makes sense. Yeah, and I totally understand everything you're saying. There's another verse I want to ask you your opinion on.

And I'll read it to you. And I don't expect you to know, like, the whole passage or anything. So I'm just going to read you this first. So this is what the book of Hebrews says. chapter 10, verse 26, it says, if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. So there's two types of sins. There's called a sin a commission and a sin of omission. Commission is like, I commit an act, right? I commit murder, I commit this thing. Omission is like, I'm going to opt out of something. I know the right

thing to do, and I'm not going to do it. And this verse scares the daylights out of me because I'm just like, okay, if I know the right thing to do and I continue to do the wrong thing, the problem is like, there's no sacrifice for my sins. I guess the question I have is like, do you think you're doing the wrong thing? Um, I mean, I can't lie and say like, I think I'm perfect. Like I've been saying, like obviously I'm doing wrong every single day. Everyone makes mistakes. But I believe that, you know, like everything I put out is intentional and I feel like I can't control other people's actions on the way that they interpret my content, you know? And yeah, I mean, I don't think I'm doing horrible, you know?

Yeah, I think just the same way that you feel like you're intentional, I believe Satan's intentional too, right? And so I think Satan can intentionally use certain things to we as a certain, because again, Satan knows exactly what it takes to get someone to tip the edge. Like, for example, if you hear of a pastor cheating on their wife, they don't just wake up one day and go, I'm going to go have sex with another woman. They wake up and they look at a woman lustfully at the gym and they don't tell anyone because they go,

oh, well, I didn't do anything. I looked at her and I regretted it, but I don't need to say anything. And then they do it again and again and again. And before you know it, it starts small and it builds up into this thing. And so, you know, when you're saying like, well, I'm not like having sex on camera and I'm not naked, I'm like, okay, like, you know, and you're like, I'm a virgin.

I'm a priest God, right? But then on the contrary, it's like, well, Satan doesn't need all that to start to start here. You know what I mean? In someone's life. Let me ask you this. You mentioned your pastor. You said you still talk to him. Yes.

What does he say about OnlyFans and the stuff that you do? I mean, I haven't talked to him personally about OnlyFans. That is something I just keep between me and God ourselves, just because I don't want to talk to about my pastor about my only fans. I just don't want to talk to my pastor about my only fans. I just don't want to push that onto him, you know. Do you think that there may be a part of you that doesn't want to do that because, I mean, this guy, Pastor Greg, has been a leader in your family in your life for a long time. Maybe you're afraid as to what he would say because you trust him? I wouldn't say that necessarily. I just, I fully believe that like I know what I'm doing on

Onlyfans. And it's not my entire life. So I'm not trying to make it my entire life. And I'm just, this is just one chapter in the big book, you know. When you say that I have to ask, do you think that this chapter, like when you mentioned God's allowing only, you know, God's allowed this in my life, it's a part of my plan, blah, blah, blah. Do you think God is allowing you to shut the door

when you want to shut the door? Or do you think that this is something that you do need to give up? And like, do you get what I'm saying? Like, do you think that OnlyFans is just like, oh, the timer's taken? And then God's going to be done with it. then I'm going to move on, or do you think that this is something like, God is demanding me to

give this up now, so I need to move on. I mean, I think that I will know when it's time for me to move on to a different path. I think that I'll know between me and God, like, he'll make it known. And I believe that right now, like, I'm meant to be here because I'm trying to make money so I can give back. And that's all I'm trying to do. I see your heart. And it's like you want to provide and you want to financially be there.

do you think that God can provide for you if you weren't doing only fans? 100% yes I believe that. And have you lost, have you had to lose things because of only fans? Like, what have you lost because you've done only fans? I've lost my job and maybe a little of sanity, but that's about it.

Okay. That's about it honestly. So you're maybe, and you mentioned earlier the mental pressure, right? So you have mental pressure and you have mental pressure and you, you know, you didn't mention this, but there's people that are looking at you in your body and whether you want them to or not, right? So you have all of these pressures. So those are things that have cost you only fans. In my mind, it costs something to follow Jesus, right? So if only fans has already costing you something, then what's the difference in, you know, losing stuff

for Jesus, right? Because the difference is with only fans, whatever only fans costs you, you can't get you can't get it back in only fans and it like fulfill you. Does that make sense? I'm not saying that that's exactly what you're looking for in there, but just in general. Whereas like when I started following Jesus, I went to private Christian school and I was the most unpopular guy my senior year. I got food thrown at me at the student section of the football game because they didn't want me sit there. You would think that I would be popular at a Christian school being Christian, right? And so I lost things when I followed Jesus, but God brought me things, not literal physical things, like friends that actually cared about my soul and reunited some stuff in my family that was amazing and incredible

leaders and mentors where the stuff that I lost, it didn't matter because God gave me what I needed. You know what I mean? So are you scared to lose the financial benefits and stuff like that of OnlyFans if you were to quit? Honestly, no, I'm not scared. I'm not going to die with my money. Like, I'm going to die with God. So I believe that at the end of the day, like, I'm good regardless because God has me. And like, that's what got me through my depression is like, God is there for me. So I'm not going to kill myself, you know? Because there was points in my life.

I'm like, I don't want to live past senior year. But, yeah, I think I have a really good relationship with God. Do you think that Onlyfans hinders your relationship with God? I mean, there's been times I've questioned it for sure, 100%. Like, anyone who's telling you know is lying. but I believe that my relationship with God is private and things that I tell him, he tells me back in ways, you know?

Yeah, I, you know, I think, so whenever I read the Bible, the Bible talks about two, there's two ways we can sin against the Holy Spirit. It's called quenching the Holy Spirit. It's kind of like a water hose that's on and then you like grab it, you quench it, and then you have grieving the Holy Spirit.

Like I can grieve the Holy Spirit. And so if our body is a temple, and the Holy Spirit lives inside of us as a believer. And I sin, I grieve the Holy Spirit. That means I literally break God's heart because I chose sin over him, whether it's, you know, I'm tempted with something and I bite into temptation instead of turning back to him

because I tried to fulfill that hole with that thing or whatever it may be. And I remember a couple years ago, I fell into sin, and I remember hearing the Holy Spirit say, you grieve me. I start crying because I was like, wow, I can't believe that I actually hurt God. I hurt him. And it just moved my heart knowing that like it kind of put into perspective. I'm not the guy that's like, oh, I heard the audible voice of God and a ray beam shine down and

like this is what it looked like. I heard God tell me that I grieved him when I did what I did. and for the first time it really put into real perspective that when I sin, I break God's heart because I'm choosing something over him. And so whenever I'm like asking these questions, I can tell when you're like, well, you know, I've thought about it before and, you know, I can't lie that I haven't been convicted. And so it seems like, you know, I know people may talk about this online, whether to you or not to your face. It seems to me that like this is something that you do think about. Oh yeah, about quitting. So what then, I know I've kind of asked you a little bit, what then stops you from quitting fully? Like right now? Yeah. I mean, like I said, I have great

relationships online with people right now. I've made friends being online and that's something I really enjoy and I don't want to just leave all of that behind all of a sudden. Like, I really, really enjoy what I put out online. And I don't think that I should just quit right now on the spot. Like, I'm going to try and set myself up to move to the next chapter and, like, move on and do something bigger and greater with my life. So you're afraid to maybe lose the friendships that you've made by starting only fans, being on only fans, friendships, connections, stuff like that. That's what you don't want to leave. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to lose my friends. I've made really great friends. And kind of similar to what you were saying about the girls who came to Bible study, like, they

come to me and they're like, I've did all these things and like I'm regretful of them and I've been able to show them and share with them God. And I think that's another great thing about doing this is I tried to tell everyone. You know, I don't push Christianity because I don't believe in that. I believe that everyone has their own religion and that's, that, that is okay. But these girls, they come to me and, you know, they're sad about what has happened to them online. And I'm glad that I can be there and share these things with them. And I'm still great friends with all of them, you know, and we can talk every single day about their issues and my issues. And it's just it's a good community like a good circle because we all go through the same things you know

i think it's an interesting question that i mean point that you brought up because you think that you believe everyone has their own religion which i can understand from respectful thing like that sounds cool in my opinion i think jesus is the only way i think that there can only be one truth right because if you have two different religions tang two slightly different things then they both can't be right you know i mean no i agree with you 100 percent i believe that god is all power and like that's who i pray to every single night but obviously not everyone thinks like that. Everyone has their own religion. And honestly, I don't like the Christians that try to push God so much onto other, you know, religions because that's their religion, you know,

like there's Muslim, there's Judaism, like all these different things like that people believe in. And I think that is okay. Yeah, I can, I can understand that. I guess like my, my hesitation is like, you know, let's say, let's say a girl comes up to you who feels regretful about their only fans, but they were Muslim, right? Or ethically Muslim or whatever. and you're like, well, I believe Jesus is the answer, but you don't tell her that Jesus is the answer. That's like having the cure to cancer. I mean, no, I would definitely tell her.

I'm not going to try to convert her to Christianity, though, and be like, this is going to solve all your problems. You know, like, I'm not going to do that. I'm very vocal about I believe in God and, like, he is by, you know, he's Jesus and stuff. And I don't hide it because, like, I'm scared that someone's going to look at me differently. I tell them that I believe in God. but I don't think that it's right for someone that is Muslim that comes to me and like I'm trying to convert them to Christianity because I think that that's the right answer for them.

I think that God has a plan for everyone differently and regardless of that's Christianity or not, I think that at the end of the day, like they're going to be okay. If you think God is the right answer in general, though, then it kind of wouldn't really matter if they were Muslim or not, right? Like if Jesus is the answer point blank period, whether you're black, white, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, whether you're from Africa or Georgia, it doesn't matter. if he's the answer for everyone. Like that's what I love about Jesus. It doesn't matter if like, I've never had a sip of alcohol and someone's an alcoholic. Like he can answer.

He fills the hole for both of us, even though our holes are different. The root issue is the same because we're like looking for fulfillment or love or whatever, but two different sin issues, two different things. I guess like I just want, not I want. I don't want people to get confused, I guess, to think that because we're talking and you're like,

Yeah, I mean, I think about it. I get convicted sometimes. I think about if I should be doing it or not. But then I would hate for people to think that they can have the best of both worlds, right? Because Jesus would say, if anyone wants to follow me in the scriptures, he says, if anyone wants to follow me, he needs to deny himself, pick up their cross and follow me. And so that might be comfort. Whatever makes you comfortable, it could be money, it could be a job, it could be whatever that may be.

He's like, whatever matters most in your heart, yeah, deny that, pick up your cross and follow me. and I'll show you that when I matter most in your life, that I'm in there for you, you know? And so these girls, when they regret their life, I mean, I think that they're being bold and honest and real. And it, you know, I bet it breaks your heart just as much as it would break mine. And that maybe there could be another option for them.

You know, I think, I mean, I know we're talking about impact that, you know, you're doing only fans encouraging other girls to go down the route and other girls to be regretful and stuff like that, but like me, like my heart is like, I care about you as a human being because I, yeah, I believe that thinking God is a part of your only fan's journey is a form of deception.

And the nastiest thing about deception is you don't know you're being deceived when you're being deceived, you know? And I want to see you thrive spiritually. I think that there is a joy that you haven't fully experienced yet, because this is the one thing that, and from my perspective of you,

it's deeper than just like posting pictures on only fans. It's like friendships, it's money, it's stability for your family, it's a whole deep rabbit hole of things. And now this like Rocky Foundation where like, okay, let's say you don't give up OnlyFans, but like your account gets banned. Well, OnlyFans got taken away

whether you gave it up or not if your account got banned. So then that stability would be, ripped out from under you anyway. You know what I mean? So it's like, God can take it away. We can give it up to him. Either way, then you would be in the same position you would be whether you gave it up or it got taken away of going, well, what am I going to do now? You know? And I want to see you thrive in that spiritual way. Thank you. Now, now, I got some questions about the lines because I know you said you drew lines for the work that you do. So you don't take your clothes off. So you don't take your clothes off.

but you, that's where you draw the line is taking your clothes off and sex on camera, correct? I do, I will not ever have sex on camera. So why those specific lines of like taking your clothes off and then sex versus other lines? I just am not comfortable with that. I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that on the internet. And I think that's a good enough answer.

Like I don't think any other girls should waver just because of that. And I don't, I think a lot of it has to do with peer pressure. Like, obviously they're being told that this is the right thing for them. Like, no, if you're not comfortable with it, say no. Like, no means no. And I ran a lie that somebody offered you $15 million for your virginity. Yep.

Can you tell me a little bit about that? I mean, it happened. Was it on like someone through only fans offered you that money? No, so someone DM me on Instagram. Like a famous person? Yes. Oh, my gosh. Oh, sorry.

And I just ignored it because like that's ridiculous. Like I'm not doing that. But is that not like, does that not like make you sick? I mean, look, in my mind, when I hear you say somebody offered me $15 million for my Virginia, and you're like, I ignored it because that's weird. But it's crazy to think that people know your boundaries. They know your virgin. They know that you won't have sex on camera.

They know that you won't get naked. And yet they still feel the temptation. someone felt that temptation from knowing you knowing what you do to go yeah i'd pay her 15 million dollars to take her virginity yeah that's insane and i'm so first of all i'm sorry that someone said that to you that's disgusting they're they are nothing close to being a man whatsoever by asking you that that is disgusting and also what made them ask that question you know what i mean it's like that's crazy they know your boundaries but they also know what you do and maybe they've been able to tempt other people with that.

And so maybe think, well, she's in the same line of work as this person and blah, blah, blah, and they can do it. I mean, that... I mean, that's just the sad part about being online. You know, there's a lot of people that are going to try and come for your throat, you know, like, there's just always bad, you know, ill-intent people out there. And you can't let yourself become too focused on that because you're going to drown in it. Does that make you, like, question? because that question doesn't just come from like seeing you do a TikTok dance.

Right. You know what I mean? Like he's not asking you, whoever that guy is, isn't asking you to do that because he sees you do a TikTok dance. He's asking him because he knows she's on the only fans.

I know her boundaries. She's talked about it online. Who knows if they've seen your stuff on only fans? You know, to me, that's where that comes from. Not because I can't picture like somebody offering someone who's blatantly, like who's full blown all out for Jesus. Maybe they talk about Jesus online, getting a DM from a celebrity that's going, I'll pay you $15 million to take your virginity because I know that you're a Christian and I know

your standards. You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. I think that a lot of people see one thing about me though and that they've already created their image of me in their head and that's never changing, you know? And I think that happens a lot online. Like I can't make someone think of me in a certain way. They're going to think of me how they want to think of me.

And I know in my heart who I am, and that's how I sleep well at night. You know, like, I don't care about this kind of stuff. Like, I don't care about what people say online about me. I don't care what this guy thinks I'm this person and this guy thinks. Like, whatever. Do you all think what y'all want to think? Because I know in my heart where I am. And, yeah, I don't let that waiver.

You said earlier that when you feel like God's wanting you to quit OnlyFans that he'll speak to you, right? when I'm sitting here kind of going to bat for you in a way where I'm like, hey, I think you should quit. I think this is detrimental to your soul. I genuinely do. I think Onlyfans is hurting your soul,

whether you acknowledge it or not. I mean, I totally understand. Yeah. Do you feel like that, do you feel like that I'm judging you? Or do you feel like that God may be using this conversation to? I think that God may be using this conversation.

Obviously, you gave me a lot to think about. And I really appreciate it. like, it's nice being able to have this kind of conversation. And like I said, I don't pretend to know all the answers. And I know, like, I'm still learning every day and I'm growing my faith every single day with God. And I hope that that can become as strong as it can be. And yeah, you gave me a lot to think about.

And I'm grateful for that. I want to ask you about the men. Who do you picture when you think of the people subscribing to you? Honestly, people my age. I like, do you know the analytics of whose, subscribing to your only fans? I don't actually. I don't.

There is a way for me to go look at that, but I just haven't, honestly. I'm, like, really not tech savvy at all. Okay. I, like, really, I'm still trying to learn how to post on TikTok. Like, it's really, it's really bad. Okay. Well, I was just curious if you knew that,

because I think, like, you know, if people go into a hooters, there's only two types of people in hooters. It's really old people or really young kids trying to be stupid. You know what I mean? There's, like, no ever ambiters. tween. You never see a family of four going to Hooters. Okay. Well, maybe maybe that's you. I'm not someone that's going into Hooters. That's where my parents met. I like getting your parents met at Hooters. My parents met at Hooters.

My mom was a waitress and my dad was a chef. Yeah, I, I prefer to get my wings at Buffalo Wild Wings. That's just me. No, Hooters has the best wings. They're so good. Okay. Well, I'm, and I like the wings. Just the wings. We're talking about the wings. Okay. Well, you know, you get what I mean? This is either younger people are in there being stupid or like you have some older creeps in there and it's weird. So I guess I wanted to gauge if you knew who was subscribing to you. So you just think that people are ages or are subscribing to you? I mean, I think it ranges, you know, like I obviously know that there's some older men on there just based on the way I talk to them. And obviously there's people my age on there. But I, you know, it's a wide range. I don't know like the percentage though of. Has anyone ever

told you that subscribing to your only fans destroyed their life, their marriage, or anything like that? No one has said that to me yet, no. How many, how many people, how many married men do you think are subscribed to you? I've had a couple. I've had a couple married men. That have openly told you. Yes. And then I immediately restricted their account. I really try to understand people's situation.

I get to try to know them before, like, I really talk to them all the time. And anytime that someone tells me something like that, like that they're married men or married, you know, I just restrict their account because that's not what I'm there to do. I'm there to just build a relationship with, you know, guys online. Yeah. Single guys online. Okay. Are you dating? I'm not dating, no.

Is it hard for you to date? Oh, 100%. 100%. It's very hard. Do you want to get married one day and have kids? Like, is that something that you desire? Do you really think about that? I would love to get married one day.

Kids I'm not decided on yet, honestly, just the way that the world is. It's a little scary. But yeah, I definitely want to get married, but I'm just waiting for the right person. I want to build a dynasty. A dynasty. Like every now and then I'm like, I want a few kids. And then sometimes, like, I could take 12 or 13. I want to see that.

Well, you know, if you get 10 dudes that really rock with you, not just dudes, I want to be a girl and a guy, but if you get 10 guys and girls that can rock with you hard for 30, 40, 40, or whatever, God willing. I mean, yeah, that's your best friend. You can do a lot of damage. And, yeah, I have so many thoughts on marriage. I just, I want to build a dynasty, you know. And I heard a testimony at church yesterday

that one of our pastor's friends got pregnant. And then they found out that they were having triplets. And I looked at my wife and I said, come on in Jesus name. I'm ready for the dynasty, you know? That's blessed right there. That's what I'm talking about. That's blessed right there. Let me ask you just a spiritual question to gauge where you're at.

I like asking to every single guest's question. Okay. On a scale of one to ten, ten being absolutely certain, one, not confident at all. How confident are you that if you died right now, you'd go to heaven? I'm about, I would say about a seven. Why do you think you're a seven? I think that I could be doing a lot more in my life and giving back more and obviously vocalizing more about God.

Me personally, though, I just believe that my relationship is very private with God, and I value that. So I don't, I think that I could be doing more with God. Christianity, but I also believe that, you know, God loves me. And I think I believe that I would go to heaven. But you feel like on the spectrum, you're a seven? Yeah, I would say seven. I'm not a perfect Christian. I don't think there is a perfect Christian, but I obviously could be a better Christian. Do you think you could be a 10? And if so, what would make you a 10? In your mind, what would get you to be a 10 versus a 7? I think a 10 would be, I've definitely been missing out on church. It's hard to go when I'm traveling so much.

I would love to have a closer relationship with the congregation, you know, and my pastor. So I think that would be, would make me a 10. So I, I would say I'm a 10, not because I think I run a Christian podcast. That's not why. I think I'm a 10. Okay. I think that being a 10 isn't an ego thing. I think it's a confidence thing.

And I heard this analogy one time where someone said, if I gave you two courtside tickets, you and your sister, courtside tickets to the Lakers game. I mean, you guys went tonight and you go down and you scan your ticket, you go through. And right when you're getting court side, the security guy stops you. And he's like, why are you coming down here? You're going to say, well, I have tickets. And he's going to say, well, who gave you those tickets? And you're going to say, well, Bryce gave me those tickets.

They were a gift from Bryce. And that's why I'm able to come courtside. And in the same way, Jesus is like, it's not about the things that we do to build our way. So if I ever feel, I have to heart check myself constantly with this question. Because if I feel like a seven, an eight, a four, a six, there's part of it. me that when I respond with a seven, I think that's kind of what you said. You're like, I think I could do more for God. When God loves, when we read our Bible, pray, go to church. But if we think that that's what gets us to heaven, then we've lost the picture of like what Jesus did on the cross.

And Christ's crucifixion forgives us of everything. And that's why like when I'm hearing your story and you're talking about forgiveness, I'm like, you know, when you mention forgiveness and and talking about what you do, I'm like, I think that if you surrendered only fans, I know confidently through who God is and his character, that you've spoken of his character, you know that he's all powerful and that he's an all loving God. He's also all just. And I think that God, I know for a fact, God would forgive you if you surrender.

And there's so many things that I have to surrender today that even beforehand I had to surrender to Jesus. And that love just kind of transforms you from the end. inside out, you know. I want you to experience that, Sophie. I want you to experience it fully. I'm looking forward to the day that I can fully experience the Lord. Like, I know this sounds weird, but I'm excited to go to heaven. Like, I'm, I truthfully am. I think it's going to be a great time. I like to close every episode with a prayer. And if it's okay, I'd love to pray for you. I would love that. Yeah, I want to pray for safety, protection. I want to pray for provision,

and specifically provision not from what you do. I believe that God can provide. And I want to pray that, you know, I obviously believe what you're doing is wrong, although I respect you and care about you as a human being. And if that is true that what you're doing is wrong, I want to pray that God actually opens your eyes to it. But I'd love to pray for you if that's okay. Yes, please too.

Thank you. Thank you so much for today. God, thank you for Sophie and our gentle conversation. God, thank you for allowing us to talk about things and allowing her to be open and honest about her life, her story, what she does and stuff like that. Jesus, we just ask for safety over her. She's experiencing a lot of intense safety precautions, Lord, would you protect her?

We pray Psalm 91 over her and her family. Jesus, we just ask that you provide, but not in the way that she makes money. God, would you just be the provider? Not what we want, not what she wants, not what her family wants, but what they need? God, they need you. So would you be that provider?

And Lord Jesus, I just ask that you bring conviction in her life, Lord, that if you believe that what she's doing on all, family fans is wrong, would you just reveal it to her? Would you bring godly women into her life to encourage her and challenge her and her faith? And Jesus, we love you. We thank you. It's in your name we pray. Amen. Amen.