The Bryce Crawford Podcast - The Forrest Frank Interview

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

For our 100th podcast episode, we had the extreme honor of interviewing Forrest Frank. His humble passion for Jesus and music is displayed through his powerful testimony.

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got force frank on for us frank on for us thanks for coming on thanks for having me i'm so pumped i mean this is incredible i you know like i think yeah i just want to encourage you before we start like i think whenever i think of the heart of god and i think of someone that represents the heart of god in such a pure way i think of you and i mean the way you lead people in worship the way you point everything to the father. I'm encouraged by your humility and encouraged by the way you carry yourself. I feel like you can you can kind of like look at people and read and kind of, you know, kind of tell who they are. Not in a judging way, but you can kind of get a little glimpse of someone just by how they carry their self. And man, I'm just so encouraged and deeply impacted

by who you are and how you carry yourself and want to encourage you that. So thanks for coming on. Thanks for me, bro. That's crazy. I just like make you really awkward right off. Yeah, yeah, no, that's I received it all. Thank you. That's glory to God. Dude, I'm so happy you're here. You know, a lot of people, a lot of people know you for your music now. A lot of people know you from surfaces. But I think not a lot of people understand that, like where you've come from, who you are, your background, what the pressing is. There's this new song that I heard from this worship leader named Lizzie McGuire.

and she said she was singing this song about the Alabas Oil have you heard this song? I don't think so. She just like in the middle of this song just starts singing over and over you don't know the cost of the oil.

And I feel like we look at people and we just assume like, yep, that's it. Like that's what I want. I remember when I first became a Christian that I thought success as a Christian was, oh, how many people could I preach in front of? How many people could I do this in front of?

but then no one knows like the cost of that oil, that intimacy of like what you've been cultivating and like who you are as a human being and your relationship. And that's what I want to get into today. It's like, man, I'm grateful for Forrest Frank. I'm grateful for the music. But I want to know you and I want to know what God's been doing in your life and how you've cultivated that. I want to be invited into that. Like what was life growing up?

Yeah. Grew up in the church. Um, both sets of grandparents were Christians. My parents were Christians, our Christians. Uh, my mom, uh, helped lead to worship on Sunday mornings. Uh-huh. So like kind of a P-K in a way. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, every Sunday going to church, every Wednesday going to church. Um, I was homeschooled until seventh grade. Nice. Yes, sir. Uh, grew up in a really small country town, uh, called Fulcher, Texas. Okay. There's like one barbecue joint. There was a Mexican restaurant and then like a gas station.

That was it. And it's all, it's all been like developed in all that stuff now. I can't even find my way at home. But yeah, just like a really small, humble start. Yeah. That's kind of the setting there.

How, how old, wait, how are you now? How old are you now? Right now? Yeah, 30. No way? Yeah. Really? Yes, sir.

Dude, what? Wait, how old are you think I am? 26. Really? No way. Let's go. All right, I'm 21. 21.

Okay, all right. Okay, that's crazy, dude. I did not know you're young looking. You know, I don't know how to say that. You know, it's like, you are young looking. Wait, how old do you think Noah is? Dude, I think he's 24. Noah, how old are you?

30. The 30, bro. No way. No way. You know, Jesus started his ministry at 30. Yeah. This is a big deal. Yes.

This is big year. We talk about this. We talk about this. It's a big year. Like right now, for real. Well, that is wild. I'm actually like, okay. All right.

Amen. Like, that is crazy. Yeah. So like when you know, when you were growing up, would you say like your family dynamic was just a love like a loving home and things like that. Yeah. Okay. I love this. I love this right now.

This is my favorite. Like I, I'm going to intersect real quick. I think. like a lot of people think that you have to have some crazy testimony like like oh my gosh like you know i got shot at and dodged all the bullets and god spoke to me out loud you know something like that but you're just like yeah no grew up small town and yeah went you to you grew up in church and and i think that's actually a lot of people's story to out there and i think that there's so much power in that um so let's keep going so middle school and high school what was it look what what did

what did Jesus look like for you in that time frame and what were challenges that you faced growing up I had I had interactions with Jesus obviously like being in the church I I think I always was in the battle of my flesh versus jumping all the way into a relationship with Jesus yeah struggles major struggles would be like lust and pride and is that is that what you're asking like yeah yeah to anything like yeah yeah wanting wanting like attention and stuff um dude my my my honestly my child is like a blur like I was just thinking it's like I feel like my life started when I gave my life to Jesus fully which was in college like I I sense that like that's where my life began do and everything before that is

Kind of like a, it's almost a blur. Dang. Like, wait, then invite something about it. And I don't even really like to think about it because it's not me now. Dude. Okay, let's hear about that. I want to, I want to know, where'd you go to college? I went to Baylor.

Nice. Yeah. Nice. That's the lit. I hear so many incredible things about Baylor. The, every time the Collegian Day of Prayer happens, I watch the Baylor service. Okay. Online.

I think it's sweet. But yeah, so you, you went to Baylor. And at this time, before you give your life to Jesus, where are you at with yourself, your relationship of the Lord? Like, how are you feeling in this moment? Yeah, so it's easy. I think that's an easier timeline of like, because I think I had the same struggles from like when I was six or seven years old and they just showed up differently like that, like the outlets would would be different. And but I remember being really insecure, really anxious.

I remember not wanting to get out of bed in the morning, like just having no energy. Yeah, I didn't know who my friends were. I didn't know what my like role was on this earth. I didn't really think I had a point in being on the earth. Yeah. And I went into college my freshman year after, because I'd done the,

church thing. And then I remember I went into college and I was like, I want to go in not as a Christian. So I've been claiming that I was a Christian before just because that was kind of like the culture of my family. Yeah. And then I went in. I was like, I'm not going to be a Christian. So,

whoa. Stop going to church. Stop praying. Stop doing that. Just like doing whatever I felt like doing, like going purely off of feelings. Yeah. And then I just led myself down, like down that path of getting, Further into depression, further into anxiety, all that stuff.

And my sophomore year of college, I'd come back after the freshman year and was just in that spot. I'm in a coffee shop, and I hear this, I'll call it an idea. Sometimes people are like, I heard the voice of God, and some people can't hear the voice of God. I think it sounded like an idea in my head, but it didn't sound like my idea. and it was the sentiment you should go to a church service right now and I was like that kind of sounds like a good idea I don't know why it just feels good like a good idea and so I pulled up my phone and had looked up my brother went to Baylor he went to this church called Antioch which we were just talking about yeah and I looked up Antioch it was

a Wednesday night I saw that the service had already started like 30 minutes ago but I was like just show up. I was like, that's perfect. I'll just show up super late. Yeah. And go sit in the back and just kind of see this idea through. Yeah. And so I went to the parking lot and like it's completely empty. I'm now like an hour or too late for this thing. Walk up to the glass doors. I open up the doors and I can't really explain this. If I had to explain it, maybe it's that prayer was like covering the space or maybe just like the aroma of the worship was keeping the enemy out but I walked in the building and immediately felt like baggage leave me whoa so there's stuff we can't see or know but I mean maybe there was literally a demon on me and it wasn't allowed in the place

and I could kind of feel that weight burden lift off of me so I'm already feeling sensations yeah and I make my way into the back of, uh, of this service. And what I didn't know is it wasn't a traditional college ministry night. It was actually a churchwide three day fast that was breaking into this extended like Holy Spirit filled night worship. Oh, so you just thought it was a normal Wednesday night. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just going to go pull up a little thing. But yeah, no, it's, it's like from the front to the back of the room, everyone just on their knees. They're already 30, two hours into So everyone's already like broken the ice. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, I walked into that and kind of just blacked out. Like I just fell on my knees. I experienced and encountered the love of Jesus. And I encountered every single thing that I was ever looking for. Like in all those years. And I think it was special that I had gotten a taste of the world too that past year.

Yeah. So I could taste and see that the world wasn't. good and I'm tasting the goodness of God and I just I just collapsed down I was just like this is it I've I've and I was you know hearing his voice clearly you know you're my child I love you like this is your home my presence is your home you know I have every good thing it was you know the floodgates had opened and I almost like I couldn't even keep up with it but I was like I can't fully explain really what's happening here, but I'm willing to dedicate and bet the rest of my life on this and like uncovering what this is. And so in that worship service, my buddy Caleb was like,

dude, you should go on a mission trip with us next week. I'm like, whoa, I'm here. I'm, you know, I'm just starting this thing. I don't know if I'm ready to go on a mission trip to tell other people about Jesus. He's like, no, you just kind of share what happened here. And that's, called your testimony you were this way and now you're this way because like dude I was turned on like I like I felt myself come alive yeah um and uh yeah so I go on this mission trip and it's daily time in the word so now I'm getting in the word I'm reading the scriptures I'm making the correlations between everything I'm finally seeing uh just the the truth yeah and every morning we had worship every morning there was new pastors that would speak and then we would do these

outreaches and go pray for people yeah you know serve people however we could and so I got to see it modeled like how to be Jesus to you kind of in in that setting how to be Jesus in the modern society and then I just kind of took that cruising altitude and kept going with it and it's been there's been rocky moments for sure but since that day my entire life has changed like i literally feel like my life started on that day how many years has that been now since uh maybe like eight seven or eight years wow yeah dang man wait praise god for caleb yeah praise god for that because i remember growing up i grew up in a church environment i even went a private christian school and when i in like fourth grade fifth grade

six grade i would go to these summer camps i probably gave my life to jesus 200 times yeah yeah yeah totally summers and then but it's cool because it's like i i would give my life to jesus right and then i wouldn't and then i would leave camp and wouldn't read my bible wouldn't pray wouldn't do anything so then that decision was there was no substance behind it you know what i'm saying and so for caleb be like hey bro like like let's go like put put some feet to your faith right now that is that is is immensely beautiful and important. And I mean, God knows what would have happened if you said no or Caleb didn't offer that.

Because that, I mean, then you got a taste of what it meant like to serve and live this thing out. Right. So even in that moment, right, when he offered it to you and you were at first like, well, man, like this thing just happened. But he's like, no, dude, like it's not that deep. You know, we're just doing this and we share testimony

and pray for people. Like when you were there on the mission trip, How did God reveal himself to you there through those people that you were interacting with? I think, I don't know how, and like to your point of like giving your life to Jesus as a kid, I don't know how I was missing it. Yeah. Like, because I would do that. So I would be in church.

Maybe every Sunday I gave my life to Jesus because I didn't know. It was like, it was like more of like a fear-based thing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I don't want to go to hell. And so gave my life to Jesus and kind of check the box. Yeah. So I don't know how I missed this. but once I was there and I fully saw it and I fully accepted it and I got the realness.

Looking to my left and right and seeing other people praising Jesus and kind of almost like the aroma of it. Like you can kind of smell it or something. Yeah, yeah. And it was, I could just tell it was the same God that they were worshipping. Yeah. It wasn't, we all had our own version of God. It was like, no, it's the same. person. Yeah. And I think that was super faith building and just like how how was I missing it?

Yeah. Where was the mission trip? A place called Edinburgh, Texas. It's like South Texas. Nice. Yeah. Okay, cool. Wait, that's super impactful. Local missions like in America is super important. Yeah. Yeah, I think I could be wrong, but I think it's the most impoverished county in like the whole US. Wow. Yeah. It's like basically Mexico. Yeah. That's encouraging. So you went on this mission trip. You come back from the mission trip. What was, what did that journey look like now? Because, you know, you went from having this love encounter with God.

Yeah. To then walking it out. And now you're kind of immersed back into this environment where you're, you're not of the world now because Christ has changed your heart, but you're in the world now. Yeah. So what was that? Was there were there challenges that you faced? Were there you know

Was it was it smooth sailing for the first year? What was that first year of you being a follower of Christ's life? Yeah I kind of jumped ship in a lot of ways like I think I became like a bad friend to my old friends I think I I don't know I just kind of jumped ship I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna join the life group and like these are my new people and and I was just kind of gung-ho all in. Yeah. I feel like it was really easy because because of the college ministry system,

that it was like, we were on this mission trip, we come back, now everyone from the mission trip still has like the camp eyes. So everyone's already hanging out. And then there's life group and then we're still hanging out. It was mainly after college when it was like, okay, now I'm on my own.

That's when I saw like the real refinement because sin struggles would come back in. I'm like, oh, yeah. whoa what's that i thought i was dead to that but now i have to wrestle it now i have to go back back to alignment with jesus and and not forget the truth because the enemy would try to deceive me and bring lies and stuff what helped you with your faith when you graduated college the most was it was it you know the local church was it prayer was there like a father figure that came into your life maybe your own family kind of all of the above

Honestly, I would say all of the above. But where my head goes naturally is like marriage. Yeah. Marriage is the ultimate. Like, oh, I thought I was good. And then I got married and it was like, oh, I have so much work to do. And now we're here. So I feel like I've, yeah.

Like whatever, if this is my whole lifetime line and like here's the amount of refinement and like this is marriage, like this was more refinement than this, you know. Yeah. Are you okay to talk about that? Yeah. Anything. Can you talk about anything. Yeah. How long have you married?

Five years. Who are at? Yes, sir. Tell me about, like, tell me about, well, first of all, I want to know how you met your wife. So we met, so I went on that mission trip. I went the next year, and she was there. Wow. Yeah.

So she went to Baylor too, or, and then did you know her at Baylor before the mission trip or? No. You just got some out of the mission trip. No, no. It may be, it was actually two, two mission trips. But anyways, that same mission trip I went on. Nice. Yeah.

And then you graduated college. You guys got married after college. And then what about marriage challenged you the most in your faith journey? There's no, I mean, your actions are having a reaction in real time, and there's no escaping it. It's right there. You have to face it with that commitment. Yeah. So I feel like, you know.

I don't know. If like a friend or something else bothers me, I can like kind of maybe postpone it or something or there's like a work drama or something. It's like no, like your marriage is right there. Yeah. So that part, just having a mirror. Yeah. What do you think has been the number one piece of love advice that has helped your marriage and you loving your wife and her loving you back? Or is there something that you guys experienced maybe that was just like, oh, dude. Oh, this one, this was crazy. Oh, man, this is heavy. I'm like, do you not even think about this right now? I started watching pornography when I was like, I don't know, really young, right? And I watched it, like, all the time.

And I was a version when I got married. I remember we were trying to have sex the first time. And I think I kind of like did something aggressive. And she was like, whoa, what are you doing? Where did you learn that? And I was like, I know exactly where I learned that. And I was like, whoa, this is our thing to figure out together. This is a new thing.

And our marriage is something that we get to figure out together. And so I think, uh, When I think about like advice is like that's it's your thing. Yeah. It's never been done before. Sure it's been done. Yeah. You know, it's a category of something and there's there are universal rules, but it's like it's your thing and no one else gets to share it.

It's like, so that I think that would be the maybe the biggest advice is like let it be your thing and figure out what's fun for you guys and what's romantic for you guys and you. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you have a girlfriend right? Yeah. You're already speaking some language, right? Y'all have a certain language that you speak that only all speak. That gets deeper and deeper and deeper until eventually you become one person. So now my wife and I, I feel like we are just one person.

And that's been fun. Her sharing that with you. Oh, yeah. It was affected you. It was like, pull the e-break. Whoa. Yeah. We're starting from ground zero.

And I just apologize. Like, I'm so sorry. like it's time like I let me just forget everything that I've ever tried to know you know there's stuff that like books can't teach you yeah and it's the real life yeah sometimes you just have to live the real life and yeah bring the Bible with you bring Holy Spirit and with you but yeah wow I'm even learning that now like I'll have day-to-day issues there it was maybe two days ago I had a kind of a complex question. And so I texted Noah and my pastor and a group text.

And I sent an audio message and then I sent it. They hadn't responded yet. And I text back and said, wait, don't answer that. I'm going to ask God. Yeah. Because like we could sit here and have a discussion about something, but the truth is right there. And I could ask him and he could reveal himself.

And so I did. And he did. Wow. I was like, why not? Just do that. Oh, dude, that's so encouraging. I literally was driving over here back from, so when we were coming, while you guys were on the way, I was driving back. And I broke down in the car, just started crying my eyes out. And I did the same thing where I was like, oh my gosh, I need to call Marcus, my mentor right now. And I need to get on the phone with him.

and then I kind of caught myself and I was like kind of like what you're saying I feel like I'm in the same boat too where you know I human beings yearn for this this love

you know they're searching for it and everything and the substances the you know sex drugs alcohol porn whatever maybe and I'm like man I just want Marcus to be there for me and I'm breaking down to the car

crying my eyes out and I pick up the phone and I go wait a second like what is he going to be able to give me right now even though he loves me so much he can't you can't do anything i'm going to get off the phone and still feel heavy and so and i just had to take a second of like going hold on i need to just like ask god to like meet my heart right now in the car because i'm hurting right now you know and and we we go through things and and and and life is hard and you go through the challenge and i mean i mean even think about it from this standpoint, you know, people only get a glimpse of Forrest Frank at a worship night on tour

or on a 15 second social media clip. They don't know what Forrest lives day to day. They don't know that he's wrestling with a question and texting the pastor and Noah on the side going, hey, help me. Or they don't know that like you're having to relearn things because you're human too. And so in those moments, it's like, you know, we're so used to finding an outlet. And not going back to the source of life of this, this living water where we don't have to keep, you know, thirsting again. Right. I'm navigating that right now, bro.

I feel like you're speaking my language. Wow. Because I'm trying to find this groove of going like, okay, hey God, like, please help me right now. I'm hurting right now. Yeah. And I'm crying, and I know you see me. Like, help me right now. Yeah.

I think it's so encouraging and impactful. And it's not a shameful thing to be like, hey, God's rewiring my brain right now in this area it's it's it's an honest response and a in a loving response to say like thank god like you're doing some heart surgery on me right now yes i think it's fun it's an adventure yeah it's like oh wow i got i got another level of refinement of like oh i used to be um don't you feel like there's there's a progression of refinement absolutely and i feel like it's just so fun yeah the um um I don't know, it's like, I think, I think there's like levels. There's like, oh, I checked the box where I went to church on Sunday.

That's like level, level one, right? And then there's like, okay, today I'm going to try to pray without ceasing. Yeah. It's like, shoot, the bar just got so high up there. Like, I, that's crazy. I literally like, you know, when I study the Bible, I like to read like, commentaries and stuff like that. Because I like to go deep.

And that was like another. thing. I'm reading last week. I'm getting super passionate right now about like revelation because I just think it's so hard to understand and I want to read it and understand. And I remember, you know, I was getting ready to pick up this commentary and I literally like, I feel like the Lord speaks to me the same way he spoke to you about going to Antioch, like ideas. I'll get an idea in my brain. It's like an intrusive thought that nerves my brain. And I just kind of get this intrusive thought of like, hey, why haven't you asked me what I'm saying here? And I was like, whoa, like, hold on one second.

Like, I'm running to the commentary instead of Holy Spirit right now. Yeah. Not to be something, you know, I'm not going to come out and just be like, you know, God's going to return on October 6th, 2030 because I read the book of Revelation. But I'm going to sit here and go, okay, God, help me understand. Like, not only the context of what you're saying here, but like, how can this impact my my heart right now. You know, and I remember reading like Revelation 5 when he was talking about like the martyrs and the end times and how there was going to be blood of martyrs. And I'm

sitting there reading that. And the way God was speaking to me and that wasn't God revealing this insane context. He was going, yeah, Bryce, how do you feel about me if you were challenged like that right now? Yeah, Bryce, like you see what they're going to do for me? Like, where do you think you would be at, now if someone came knocking on your door and asked me if you knew about me and I'm getting you know rocked that way and you know to encourage you again when you are leading us in in to the throne room through your music you're not just like writing songs about god you're releasing a sound that is personal like you know you've been you know this guy.

You know, you know him. And so that's why I think there's so many people out there that resonate so heavily or that are drawn to this sound that is being released right now through your music. And even through, there's something crazy being birthed right now in America with Jesus. And it's just because you can tell that people are actually knowing this guy. Yeah. That's right. They're singing about, talking about, preaching about whatever.

You can tell. And people were like, wait, you can know this guy? It's crazy. Yeah. It is so crazy. So like I want to like transition into that. Like your music, how long have you been doing music and been passionate about it just in general? And then where did the Lord kind of?

Like how did you know God was calling? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's something you said too that I want to, I'll say that I'm, I'm going to try to tie to that. Because the, yeah, the connection. It's almost like a poor. if I could say that.

Like, a real portal is a real portal. Um, to darkness too. Yep. The other way. Whoa. About to fall out. In the chair. I have always been fascinated by music.

I didn't, I didn't have the tools to necessarily know how much I was fascinated by music. We had a piano in our living room and I would actually find myself going and like noodling down there and my dad worked from home and so like sometimes we couldn't like make noise too much in the house. So I didn't have really have this opportunity but I think I would have sat there for 10 hours in a day. Just noodling around just going to this like crazy place. So yeah, I would do that at whatever extent I could. And then specifically my senior year, of high school, I saw someone on YouTube making beats. This is pre-Tick-Tac, pre-Instagram. I think Twitter existed, but it was just an obscure, like, couple thousand view video of someone on an MPC making beats,

and I was like, that looks so fun. He took like an old sample and had chopped it up and was making a beat out of it. And so I'd asked for my, I want to say, birthday, a, it was called a machine micro like a sampler so anyways long short short I got that sampler the day I got it game over because that's that's my thing I can put headphones in no one can hear it and I literally would I would escape for six seven eight nine ten hours at a time I would forget to eat I'd look at the clock it'd be 5 p.m. I'd look at the clock again it's 3 a.m. I had no idea and I have no idea how to make songs I'm just loving the flavors yeah I like to compare music to food a lot lot yeah and so it's like I'm tasting a pineapple for the first time yeah and then I'm

tasting like ketchup for the first time yeah and I'm trying to put them together so it sounds so if I showed you I'm like look what I made you'd be like yo disgusting but I was hearing all the individual parts so yeah that comes with with a refinement so yeah I worked on that I went to school for business nice and so I'd get off class and I would be making beats with literally no ambition in mind. The only thing I was, I was just obsessed with these flavors. I had no idea how to make a song.

So fast forward to like senior year of college, I've now put in well over 10,000 hours into this craft. Wow. And so then I kind of maxed out beat making. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna see how to like use my voice. And so then I started like singing on the beats and started to study like songwriting, which seemed, It felt kind of corny to me.

I don't know why it does, but like studying like a Katie Perry song or something. Or whatever's on the radio at that time, like flow rider or something. I'm like, I don't want to study this song. But there is a benefit to that. So anyways, yeah, did that, learn the craft. And then started making secular music out the gates.

Yeah. Wow. Which I could get into that. Yeah, keep going. Keep going. I want to know. So you started getting into, so. So I'm following Jesus, right, from sophomore year, but I started making beats three years before.

Right. And I, many times it was like, Lord, do you want this? Like I'd lay, I would lay music at the altar all the time because I'm just like, take, take everything. Here's all I have. And he let me keep music. So I kept working on it. But there was a sound that I was refining towards. Yeah.

And I loved that sound, and that sound was a secular sound. Yeah. So there wasn't any, like, Christian music doing that. So I kind of naturally was making secular music, and I would try to include God into it. It wasn't dirty. It was all clean and uplifting, but it wasn't Jesus music. It wasn't, you know, leading to salvation. That sound, it's like a, yeah, it's like that's what you call it secular.

It gives me like that, I don't know like a phrase for it. I almost that like pop indie folk like whatever combination. Yeah. But to me it's, man, I just think it's so interesting how the music thing kind of started out to you as a hobby. Because I think of the parable of talents. And like, you know, I feel like a lot of people are always like, man, I don't know what to do with my life. You know, like I don't know. Everyone knows their purpose and I don't know my purpose.

I feel like I hear a lot of people say that. and I feel like oftentimes God is like, okay, we'll start at what you're good at and use it for my glory. Yeah. And oftentimes like, dude, I suck at graphic design. I'm the worst Photoshop graphic designer on the planet. And like one of my friends makes a lot of our graphics.

And he just is a killer graphic designer. He's like, yeah, dude, I want to do everything for the glory of God. And I'm like, that is incredible and success. And that is beautiful. So you started making the secular music. You were a part of a band called Surfaces. And then you, then now you're doing your own like solo.

What was that like transition for you? The transition was, we had had a lot of success with surfaces. And got married in 2020. The Sunday, Best specifically blew up in 2019, I think. It came out in like 2018, started blown up in 2019, then it was like... Because of TikTok?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, which we didn't have TikTok, but just the audio, it was, yeah, it was just... What? So there's this thing, it was that 2019 rewind, feeling good. So like everyone did it. That was back when it was like still cool to do the trends. So like, yeah, the rock did it. Justin Bieber did it. Yeah.

Like all these people did it. it right yeah and anyway so yeah that blows up now we're and we're touring so then we're doing these bigger rooms we're getting offers from like a list artist like the biggest people are like wanting to work with us and stuff and right in the midst of that I started to feel the intrusive thought of like hey don't do that what hey don't do that song hey don't do that festival hey don't do this thing and um It just, yeah, it was just a lot of noes, which candidly was really difficult because I had a team. Yeah.

And people that I loved and cared about. And my no is their no in the midst of their yes. Yeah. So like in the group chat, like, you're all good for this show? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. No. So I'm saying no to their fun, their adventure, their income, all that stuff. so anyways had said no no no a lot and there was kind of this pivotal moment where it's where it really like shifted

and it was we got this offer for a tour for a million dollars and we said no and that was right around when we uh i think that was when maybe we were pregnant with bode or my son bode or uh or a having them but um there's a i have a lyric in a song called altar withholding i don't have you ever heard it but the opening line is i just turned a milly down to be home with my son y'all don't get it which i'm saying like y'all don't get it yeah but it's also like y'all don't get it and i think that was kind of the line of the sand of like i am accepting that there is a i didn't know there's anything on the other side yeah but looking back with my with my new eyes i think i was saying like there's a there's a greater plan for my life yeah it's not success it's just honesty

maybe and so I felt like maybe there was a little bit of dishonesty um like I was making secular music but I was trying to include God I think maybe Jesus was saying like no I want the whole thing about me and it and it it didn't look like I want the whole thing with all the success it just I just want the whole thing right here in the present and so turned down that offer and then um yeah so just was home like had very candid conversations with my wife of just like hey should i get like should i get a different career like should i work a different job should i work locally and she's like yeah like whatever whatever works whatever we have to do so we did that and then uh while just in the peace and quiet of home just like i would do as a kid i have a very similar

layout in the house it's like out in the open in the living room not in my studio just in the living room I have a piano and uh would just be noodling around and like these uh these song these worship songs would just come out and it I don't I wasn't trying to release them it was just my worship yeah and it was my portal going back to the like term like it was just like a my way of you know connecting with God and there was one song that kept coming back around which was no longer about which is the first Christian song I ever put out, which is, you came to set us free. So I would sing that just by myself and connect with God.

And one day I felt like he was telling me to put it out. And so kind of in the way I knew how, like the sound that I had been working all these years, I was like, I'll just make it like that. I put it out. It fully independently, just uploaded on the internet. And it just blew up. Like number two most viral song in the entire U.S.,

number one, most viral song in Brazil, number one most viral in Nigeria, like globally exploded. So then I was in a weird spot of like, I was taking a step back, then God did this. Yeah. Is that like do I, what do I do? Yeah. And also this was such a real thing for me, like this moment with God, I don't think I can recreate that.

Nor do I want to, I don't know a better term for this, but like bastardize my. quiet time. That's my moment with God. I'm jealous for that time and I think he's jealous for that time. You don't want to invite everyone else into it if it's just for you and him. Exactly. So then I'm, there's a couple of days later, I'm in the shower and a

whole song hits me. The production, the lyrics, everything. And this has never happened before. It's never happened since. This is the only time it's ever happened. I could see the whole song. So I went downstairs and in one session almost like tracing it yeah like tracing a photo i traced a song out uh and finished it in one session which was lift my hands which i put out way i don't remember when i put that one out but

the same thing happened with that number number one number two most viral in the u.s whatever in brazil global thing i was like whoa i didn't even try to write that one and then i think as i kind of i don't i can't even take credit for it dude that's the crazy thing I think that's why his way is so awesome. It's like we can't take credit for his ways. And so he set it up in some way where I feel like I'm out the way. Yeah. And he gave me like 86 songs or something that first year.

Oh my gosh. So it just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I could shut it off to like be with my family. But as soon as I opened up the door, boom, there it was again. And so, yeah, that's kind of. Oh my gosh. Where right now is this rapid fire. That's like the, it just sounds like overflow of obedience to God.

Like when you're saying, yeah, yeah, you know, I wrote, no longer bound and you're singing that. I'm in my head thinking like the last song, you, I mean, the last thing you just did before you wrote this was, turn down this tour, leave, everything's going up. And you're like, yeah, no, I think I'm supposed to be. out and you're basically testifying it like I'm not bound by culture. Yeah. I'm not bound by a paycheck.

I'm not bound by physical success. And that's just super encouraging because so many people try to live their life like close handed and it's open handed like on the altar

like yeah this thing may die. That's okay. And then you just don't, you're not expecting anything thing out of it other than just being his child and then you're going back to being a child making the beats at home yeah and then god gives you the status wild yeah how do you continue this rhythm of intimacy in the midst of uh good chaos i would call yeah yeah you know how do you how do you maintain that i had to look at no it because we were we were just talking about this really uh so i just did the tour um and how was it it was amazing yeah insane we can we can get into all that i would love to

I'll say this thing first, though. We, so did the arena tour, uh, did an album during the arena tour, like dropped it when there was, uh, I think like three shows left. Were you guys recording it on the tour? Yeah.

And like, we like sampled the crowd sometimes. Oh, wait, I saw the videos. Have you like, wait, that was like for the album? Yeah. So like literally on tour.

Yeah. So I just, and I was, that is great. Yeah. So I have, I have two modes. I have like full, like, I'm locking in. and I have like full rest mode.

I can't really mix the two. Yeah. And maybe nothing can really be mixed in the brain, right? So I was, yeah, so I did that thing. And my plan, which I'm currently in right now, is to have no plan. Yeah. So I finished the tour and people like, dude, what's next for you? Like the album's doing the thing and whatever.

And I'm like, I have no plans. And if it ends here, I'm totally cool. that. Yeah. And I mean that. I'm totally cool if I never do another song or technically I have like three more shows that are one-offs booked. But if I never did another show, it's all good. Yeah. Wow. And I, it's easier said than done, right? Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. And I think I'm just like making sure it's done. Yeah. That's so honest. That's just like I pure honest. Like yeah, I mean, it's hard. But yeah. I think that's real. So tell us about the tour.

What was like, what were the highlights? I mean, what was, first of all, it looked phenomenal. Dude, it was insane. I mean, yeah, I want to hear about it. Oh, man. I mean, what do you want to know, dude? Everything. Everything.

Dude, it was insane. I'll say this to start. We already covered this. I'm 30 years old. I make music that I as a 30-year-old think is cool. Yeah. And this was the, second part of the tour. It was kind of like the expanded like yeah the first tour on steroids

but kind of including the first part of the tour that was the first time I'd ever toured yeah with my music so I'd never seen the fan base yeah and I'm thinking I'm making music that I think is cool it's probably gonna be a lot of like college kids and 30-year-olds and whatever well turns out people around my age have kids yeah and kids love the music. Yeah. Like it's not like the parents are forcing them to listen. The kids are asking for this Jesus music. Yeah. And that was one of the first takeaways from the first night was looking out in the crowd and seeing a lot of kids. Yeah. Like so many families and with their parents, obviously. Um, and that was just really overwhelming because you can't, you can't like fake it with

kids like having a son like buddy do you want a bite of this chicken no what do you want ice cream like they want what tastes good yeah right and so I was super encouraged that one the music was tasting good to kids yeah that's crazy because it's healthy for them yeah healthy food that tastes good and then kind of it was a glimpse into the revival in each city and so the first two was much smaller rooms like I don't know 1,500 caps to 3,500 caps. And then this tour was like 15,000 people a night. And it was enough density that you could,

I'm kind of a person where I can kind of sense the spirit in the room. You could sense like what was going on. Yeah. You know, God would be like giving words and you could, you could sense the revival that was happening in the family, in the heart of the family. And so it, it, it, You know, it was tough at first to like, not tough, but it was an adventure to figure out what the tour was while going through it.

But I feel like about halfway through it, we like figured out what it was. And it was like, oh, this tour is a recharge for these people. People are coming in here, getting their batteries full, and then going back out to their places, like their schools and their homes and their sporting teams and whatever with like a fresh. I guess anointing of the spirit if you could say that. Dang. So how, I want to know like what, were you guys like on a bus going or flying?

Yeah. And so when you're on the bus, right, like what, like what is that, what is that, can you, can you like invite us into the, like what your alone time looks like on and off tour, right?

Like off the bus. But I'm feeling like, you know, sometimes like, like me, I get distracted really easy. So I've got to, like, isolate myself, like, in a confined area to get alone and get right and talk to God. What invite us into that? Like, what did the quiet time look like for you? On tour, off tour.

It is interesting. I'll say that. It's very interesting because there's always something to do, right? Yeah. And a lot of times you would wake up and walk out and like fans would be camped out, camped out on the outside. And I'm never one to turn down someone that like wants to interact. And so, yeah, I don't know.

It's, it's a, it's a mess, dude. It's like it's very unnatural. Because you're out of your own, you're out of your rhythm. You know what I mean? You're out of this like, oh, I wake up in my house. I go, I'm going to use the phrasing. You use noodle on the piano and talk to God.

I've never heard that before. That's awesome. Yeah. Can't do that when you're on the bus, you know? I think the main thing is you have to stay in it. Like stay on the straight and narrow, stay pure. And almost within seconds. Yeah.

of noticing your mental goes south or like if something bothers you or if like a sin struggle snuck in there you got to get it out immediately you got to fill it with the scripture and pray and like noah can attest to it he was my the the accountability and all that for the tour and it was it was a daily battle it was just whoa like we yeah a lot a lot of time of scripture a lot of time praying thankfully like I mean every single night we're giving like the highest praise to God with every ounce of every everything there is like you are kind of writing a camp high yeah like if you were to go worship for yeah three hours tonight with with people you'd probably wake up the next morning and be like whoa I feel I feel refreshed right so you're you're like

mixing peak refreshment with just the lowest of the low exhaustion you're breathing bus air, you're living like a pirate. Yeah. You're trying to find food in random cities. Yeah. Like, yeah. I brought a cold plunge, a sauna. No way.

Yeah, I, you know, did IV therapy one time. Are you a runner? No, I'm not. No. You look like a runner to me. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome.

Are you a runner? I'm trying. You look like a runner. I hate it. I hate it. I'm like literally like I'm dying. I'm not, like if you saw me running out here, you'd be like that guy looks like he's on a

last leg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does not look good at it. Dude, I love, I love lifting weights and surfing. Those are kind of my... Dude, I love both of those things. I'm just really bad at surfing. That's okay.

Really bad. I have a wetsuit, but I'm not afraid to crash. Yeah. You know, some people are afraid of the wave. So they, like, you know, they have a hard time, like, right? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I'm not afraid of that.

Like, my first time's ever serving, like I was about to drown. Like, I tried to catch the biggest wave out. there and it was off I got pumbled and beat and it took me more time getting past the waves that did right you know but I love it yeah incredible is that like a therapy for you how important are those hobbies that are like to you outside of I don't I mean yeah the the ocean's insane I notice if I spend time with God in the morning enough time to feel like I have fresh perspective on the day. Like, okay, I know who I am.

I know, like, I know I'm a child of God. Here's, you know, I, these are my issues. We got answers for them. I've got the scriptures. Like, I'm there. If I do that and get the cardiovascular movement and get in the ocean looking at nature and stuff, dude. He's up here.

He's up here. That is lit. No, that's incredible. I got a like full transparency. I got like a little like lost. I kind of forgot who Bryce was for a while. How so what does I mean? You know, I care a lot about people,

not their opinions anymore. I used to struggle with people's opinions. Don't care about people's opinions. I just care a lot about people, right? So I was so focused on like, you know, maybe it could be anything across the board, making the next video, the next podcast, next this. Oh, doing this sat in the other for my friend,

doing this at and the other for my girlfriend, and sat and I was so caught up in doing things for other people. I remember I was sitting down one time and my mentor called me and he's like, hey, Bryce, like, what do you do for fun? And I couldn't answer the question because I, you know, I was so focused. I had like lost sight of Bryce. Like Bryce wasn't himself anymore. Bryce was whatever other people were doing because I was cared about them.

And then I had to figure out like what I like. So I hate running. I hate it with a passion. But I've been doing it. And I enjoy it. I hate it, but it's like, it's something I'm doing now. And it's fun. And I'm like, okay, I'm glad I did that.

And lifting. I hate lifting. But I do it and it's fun. And I get to honor God with my body and do that. And it's fun. And I like to skate. Am I good? No.

But I look like an idiot. But I'm having fun. And I'm enjoying it. And that's why I like, I like to know, like, what is, what is Forrest doing, like, when he's not, you know what I mean? Because I think it's important. Like, yeah, I'm surfing and I'm hanging with my son and, you know, and my wife. And I think that's encouraging and important to keep that rhythm.

Yeah. Because Forrest needs to do forced things and Bryce needs to do Bryce things. Yeah. No, dude, we're literally, I mean, in this pause, I can't remember. I've had, like, a couple work moments, but I feel like, I haven't worked for like a few weeks now. Yeah. But in this rest time, it feels like a full reset because of those things.

So you can't really control how much God expands what's going on, I guess, per se. I'll say it this way, like the regular English way. We can't really go anywhere anymore. Yeah. Like, we brought my son to Disney for the first time. And we were really excited to, like, look at his eyes as he, he's loving Lightning McQueen right now. And we walked in.

And I just want to say this gracefully. Yeah. I totally understand it. I understand people wanting to come up. Yeah. And I think it's great. I really do. But there is this.

We crossed a threshold. Yeah, yeah. So, like, we walked into Disney, and it was like, yeah. It was like a zombie apocalypse or something. Yeah. And we had to, we ran into a corner. My heart's, like, pounding.

Yeah. Like, people are, forest, forest, force, force, force, force, force, force. I had to, like, call my manager. He called security. Like, they had to, it was this whole thing. And I'm not trying to glamorize it, but we are trying to figure out what, what is that? Yeah.

What's the limit? Do I, and like I said, I'm okay stopping here. Yeah. But also lives are getting changed. Yeah. You know, on another level, like, I've been in prayer sessions, and my wife calls me, she's like, where are you? Yeah. I need you.

It's like, isn't that an interesting push and pull of the reality versus the spiritual side? So all that being said, we are in a process. I'm doing this 30-day journal thing right now, trying to just figure out like, what do we go from here? Yeah. Like, do we keep going? Do I put the pedal on the gas and we 100x what God's doing? And I'm also so honored that the kids are, like, loving, loving.

That's like the highest honor to me. Yeah. So, but I don't want my dream to affect. someone else when it's not their dream. Yeah. You know, that's not my son's dream to have his dad. Yeah. Always.

Yeah. Be shared, I guess. And that's my, that's not my wife's dream. Right. You're trying to care, you know, you care about souls. You care about people. You care about people knowing God, right? Yeah.

And you, like you say, you don't want, you don't pass up the opportunity to pour into someone and, and meet them and say, hey, you know, and speak to them. But then you're also, on the other hand, like, yeah, I have a family. and you're trying to balance like that, that, that, that worst time and, like, the family time and things like that. That's, I just think that's raw and honest. If I could, if I could turn it on and off, that would be insane. That would be amazing. Yeah.

Like, if it was, like, a nine to five thing or something. Like, I would take photos all day and I would talk to anybody for 15, 30 minutes at a time. Yeah. But then it's, like, how do you do that with the fam? So, yeah. Anyways, I'll let you. I'll let you know what we land on. Yeah, yeah.

That's encouraging. Thanks for sharing that. I just think that's raw and honest. I kind of wanted to close out. I was praying this morning on specifically, like, God, what do you have in store for people listening or watching to the episode day specifically? And I felt in my heart, and it's so crazy because the whole time you're talking, And you're like, yeah, I'm a big feeler.

And, you know, and true, God speaks to you with ideas. And you have a gift of discernment. What are, is there like a message God has been speaking to you, especially on this time of rest and recovery that you feel like God has in store for people? Like, are you discerning something from God right now that is, that is for America or four people right now you know like right i guess i guess to like try to like round out the question like right now the past month i've been burdened deeply with the return of christ right not in a fearful way of not like hey hey brother you know get out of hell but like no i feel something

different in the air and i want to know more about this and i want people to know like hey you have an opportunity to like meet this guy you know before then you know I feel really burdened with that in a good way is there something that God has on your heart that he's burning in you with I mean first of all I'll say I agree I don't know if it's I don't know if all Christians were doing this you know I know I know people have yeah for since Jesus died have been thinking he's coming back soon yeah but it is it's a normal thing now to be like you think Jesus come back like yeah I do. And then it changes everything.

Yeah. If you believe that Jesus is coming back in your lifetime, your decisions are completely different. Yeah. And your values are completely different. Yeah. That doesn't matter to me. Do you feel you've been hearing that a lot lately,

or is that just me? Oh, all the time. It's kind of rising up the charts of like maybe one of the main topic of conversations. And I'm not like, you know, I'm only 21. and I believe like every generation has believed that Christ was going to return in their generation. Totally. You know, so I'm not like a big, I call it swirl ball. Like I'm not like a big swirle ball about it, you know.

But something when I pray and when I'm talking to God about it, something just feels different. Yeah. And I don't know how to explain it. Right. And even if he, even if he isn't, we still should live as though. As if he's coming tomorrow. He is. Yeah.

But yeah, I can't really deny that like there's something. There's something. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Lit. Lit. Outside of that, do you feel like that there's a message that God has been placing on your heart lately?

I think for me, and I'm trying to figure this out in real time and in relationship with not trying to affect my family. But I do want to see, or rather God. wants to see his light shined into all spaces yeah and like I think back to like you are the light of the world yeah and like you don't hide a lamp stand you put it up to shine light into spaces so I'm I'm digging through like Lord you know you've done so much with music I can continue with music I can stop with music, but is, Lord, is there an area where it's a natural fit for me, the way you design me? He somehow designed me in a way where music makes sense. Yeah. There's something,

is there another category that makes sense for me that would illuminate an area that hasn't been? Because I think music is being illuminated, you know, there is light in the space. There's spaces where there's no light. Right. And so, uh, I think maybe that's an encouragement beyond me. Yeah, just specifically with the children. Yeah. And I think that's maybe a new thing for me. I've always loved children,

but seeing like the children flock, it's like, whoa. Did God give me special eyes to like see what the children need? Or is it like more of like a revival in the children? Yeah. So I don't know. Maybe someone else can pass that baton. Yeah. But, no, that, there isn't, like, an absurd amount of young people coming into the Lord, but, like, real deal putting faith in Christ.

Yeah. And it is encouraging. It's just wild. And, you know, I, I kind of think the same thing as well, like, you know, about their need to be light and all these other places. Like, I remember, like, growing up and thinking. okay like these people that talk about God in my hometown and here like okay they went to Bible school and they got a degree and then that certified them to talk about this a dude and now they're here and like that's what it looks like to like be a mouthpiece of God but then it's like no like

force is being the mouthpiece of God by writing songs that point people to Jesus and someone over here is creating graphics that when people look at it they go oh my gosh who could this be like that designed someone to create this or who could even think of something like this or I feel like there's more of that happening right now where people are going wait a second I don't have to be like praise God for the Bible scholars and the theologians and the guys that go to Bible school I'm in Bible school I'm a college student and and I go to school I'm not dogging it. But like I'm like also like thank you for people that go to school for that.

And we also need these people that flat out are like the desk attendee at Planet Fitness because they're passionate about fitness and they're using that as an opportunity to glorify God and share Jesus with people. And I, I'm, I feel that heartbeat. And I echo that as well. I feel like that's encouraging and important. Do you feel something else? I mean, I kind of feel those two things, you know, the return of Christ,

and then I feel exactly what you're saying. Like, there's, like, when I'm walking around out here in L.A., I moved to L.A. three years ago. And when I'm telling you, like, three years ago compared to today, what L.A. looks like considering Jesus, it's just wild. Oh, so? Like, when I moved out here, like, I met believers and stuff like that, but I remember, like, going out to restaurants and just, like,

asking people what they thought about Jesus. getting yelled at or cussed at and things like that and meeting people and kind of not knowing because I grew up in an environment that was strictly you know church on every street corner everyone is Christian with their mouth you know you can't find someone that isn't a Christian like if I went when I came back home for the first time and I was like yeah mom and dad I met someone that messes with witchcraft they were like what the heck like what is that you know they didn't you know it's not normal there and so when I came out here I was just like whoa like there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff going on and a lot of people would label an environment like that whether it's it's everywhere by the way not just an ellet but they would label an environment and go oh yeah too far gone

Sodom and gomorrah see ya and i remember like being being out here when a first step was out here and so many people would tell me like Bryce why are you out there it's crazy it's Sodom and gomorrah and i'm seeing anything like do you understand that when god was addressing sodom and gomeroor he said that he would spare it if there was just one righteous person that lived there and and I'm not saying that I'm the righteous person. There's more than just one in L.A. God's not done yet. That's right. And then as time went by, we were baptizing people in our bathtub. People were getting healed left and right. Physical diseases, spiritually hearts were being soft,

and people were leaving, you know, they would show up. I remember one time we had a Bible study. This guy showed up because he thought it was a party and brought alcohol. And he left the alcohol. Like, you know, he's like so mind-blown. just like, oh, shoot, this isn't a party. I mean, I'm already here. I might as well stay.

You know, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This isn't that. And I remember one time we were out and at a restaurant and some guy grabbed me by the shirt, like he was going to beat me up. And he was like, what's different about you? And I'm not saying that to glorify me. I'm just like, it was like a light switch like happened in L.A.

where it was like all these people were worshipping themselves. And it was like, one day everyone woke up and I was like, wait a second. This isn't it. and now people are waking up. And I think Satan overplayed his hand and showed his cards, and now he's freaking out. Because a lot of people are like, oh, wait, this isn't working anymore. Or like, oh, this isn't this. Because now when we're going into these environments that you would blatantly think would just reject you or reject God,

they actually want to have these conversations. And God has now given us this fresh perspective or given me this fresh perspective going like, okay, you know, normally you would write someone off that is in this category or whatever or does this certain thing. But then God's like, okay, you see how extreme they are for this thing? Imagine how more on fire they could be for me if they just knew that I loved them. Yeah. That's it.

And it's like, oh, shoot. Like, okay. And it's just like people are waking up and going, God loves me. He actually does love me. and I I look the egg the heartbeat that you're echoing in your album like I'm a child of God like just knowing like you know a child like your son bodie doesn't have to work for your love right now he's just loved and that that that's like the realization people are having out here is like oh shoot like I don't have to work for this dude to love me I mean I'm going to change the way I live

because I love him right but I don't have to do anything to make him love me oh god loves me yeah that's just what's happening out here it's wild so how do you how do you find so you're seeing that you're seeing people come alive people coming to jesus so many opportunities for jesus yeah the king of all kings he's like hey you're working for me now yeah how how do you balance that like you're saying you you you need to have more fun you're you lost yourself like yeah yeah are you wrestling with right now or like yeah yeah do i feel like a lot of things you said are just speaking my language i'm like yeah dude that's me like right now i'm trying to figure that out so i i said a no to a lot of stuff recently i haven't i'm literally about to leave tomorrow for the first time in a in a minute actually

and you know i'm i'm grateful and excited and like i'm leaving because i felt like god has called me to where i'm going for like a week and a half and i'm gonna pour out when i'm there and then come back and and be with my family friends and you know my girlfriend and be with the Lord and it's great but uh it's just kind of like one of those things where you're like god thank you for using me but this is all vain if i do it for myself so i'm just going to focus on you and kind of like let it let it be be overflow like my brain i'm kind of like you if i'm like if i'm on i'm focused and i'm like locked in and then i just got to a point where i was like I can't, like, I, I can't marginalize and, like, knit pick, strategize God, if that makes sense.

Like, I can't, that's not how we, that's not how we got here. Like, I had a pastor Judas Smith on. Yeah, yeah. He was like, hey, you know, like, a lot of times, like, we feel the pressure, like, of the palace. Like, can you imagine that King David feeling the pressure of the palace? But he's like, King David didn't get himself. there the grace of god did yeah and like sometimes like you know when there's so much good chaos going on you feel like the pressure of it and then you're just like wait a second like

i didn't i didn't i didn't you know it's god the grace of god got me here and the grace of god is going to sustain me through it and i'm only feeling the pressure of chaos because i'm making it about what bryce can do about this thing and not what god's going to do yeah um so i'm just i'm I'm in that space where I'm like learning like okay how am I navigating this like I feel like at that point it's kind of like a daily bread thing yeah just getting in the word yeah which like you know honestly I I told you I've been reading a lot of revelation and it's intense but it has been doing something to my heart like of just going like I'm like a kid when I read the Bible like I freak out like I'm watching a crazy movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I'm like, oh, shoot. Like, you're gonna, like, you're gonna ride on a white horse and, like, come back and there's a tin-headed dragon that's gonna think, you know, I'm like, what does that mean? Yeah, I'm like reading that stuff and I'm like encouraged and just, you know, whatever. And I could, I could talk about it forever, but I think that the other day I was so encouraged in Revelation 4 is talking about the angels that have six of the seraphim,

the angels have eyes all over their body and they sing holy holy holy holy holy just Lord God I remember I was reading it and you know I just feel God like going Hey you know why they sing that to me right And I like remember sitting there for a second I'm like I'm not even know like it's got to be so boring Just I'm literally sitting there like

Guys gotta be crazy boring Like just sitting there for an infinite amount of time Repeating it repeating the song over and over and that's all they're doing And I and I'm just like seeing there and God's like yeah So the reason they're singing that to me is because their whole body is covered in eyes. So they see something new about me every time. And they just can't stop singing it to me because they see something new. Because there's something new mercies from me every day.

And so it's not that they're doing it because I'm making them. They're doing it because they want to because they see something new. And I'm just like, whoa, what the heck? That's a freaking lit, you know? And that's just like how it's going for me right now. So I agree. The bread has really been my source of going, okay, God, you're epic.

You're epic. And it's encouraging. Would you pray for us? And just, yeah, just pray for us to kind of close us out. And yeah, that would be a really big lesson. Let's do it. Jesus, thank you so much for letting me on Bryce's podcast. Thank you for every single person.

who is listening right now. I pray that right now they would experience your presence, that they'd feel your peace. I pray that we would experience your peace, Lord, today. Thank you for sustaining us today, giving us enough today. Thank you for what you're doing in this country and the revival. I ask that you would expand it, that you'd magnify it. Lord, I just ask that you would be magnified in our hearts, in our homes, in our workplaces. And ultimately, I pray that this podcast would be used for your glory.

I pray a blessing over Bryce and his camp, over his home, over his podcast. Would you continue to use him to do even greater things? and just give him rest when he needs it. And me too. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Guys, thank you so much for watching and listening to this episode. If you guys like it, subscribe to us on YouTube,

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