The Bryce Crawford Podcast - The George Janko Interview (EP 137)

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

In this episode, Bryce chats with George Janko about life, faith, and current events. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 November 8, this fall in San Diego, California, will be at the Balboa Theater for the live podcast tour. Chicago, Birmingham, and Nashville are already sold out, but we still got tickets left in San Diego. If you guys want to come out, experience the presence of the Lord, worship with us. I believe that the word God is stored in my heart for San Diego
Starting point is 00:00:16 is going to be so specific to the city and break chains. So if you live in Southern California, San Diego, or you just want to come, experience the presence of the Lord and have fun of the live podcast store. Go to Jesus in the street.org slash tour. come out to San Diego. We got some seats left. Love you guys. Enjoy the episode. Guys, welcome back to another episode of Bryce Carver podcast. I'm Bryce today. I have a really good friend of mine. George Shanko, George. Hi, guys. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me, man.
Starting point is 00:00:42 So you just got back from a long time listener, first time caller. Hey, ho. You just got back from a good vacation, right? Yeah. You went to Greece? Yes, sir. How was it? It was great. It was really awesome. We're about to go on tour. So, like, God gave us a little time that we could go get away and be together and just meditate and pray in the most beautiful place. and I just feel refreshed. Do they have a beach in Greece? Yes. Okay, I've never been at Greece, so I don't know, but I feel, I feel like God speaks to me like when I like go to the beach. I like, I don't, I don't get the opportunity to go to Greece.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I go to like, like Panama City Beach in Florida. But even they're like I feel, I don't know. There's something about being on sand and like being near the water that, that like gives me so peaceful. I feel like God speaks to me. Like the floating in the water. Yeah. It's also being alone.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah, it's just so nice. Do you ever feel like with social media? I mean, you've been doing social media for a long time. Yeah. Because you were on Vine. Dude, I wasn't even old enough to have a phone to even get Vine on it. Think about how old you are right now. Dude, you know, it's even crazier.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I was at a show and this guy came up to me. He goes, could we recreate a picture? This dude's taller than me now. Shows me a picture of him. And he's like, to my hip as a kid. So I took a picture of him when he was a little boy And then now he's like tall of him And bro, that hit me hard, dude
Starting point is 00:02:05 When you were on fine? Yeah Oh my gosh I've been in I've been doing this for almost 12 years now That's so crazy Yeah Wait, I'm only saying this because Chris Chris has had pictures with just about everybody
Starting point is 00:02:16 Do you have one with George when you were younger? Because you have pictures with literally like every Everyone this is like I met you like probably like 2017 Really? Like a 1600? Yeah Oh that's nice That's so wild though.
Starting point is 00:02:30 You've been around for so old. You're so old, man. Yeah. You're so. I'm just kidding. That's like all I do. We're only like two minutes in. I'm just like blaming you the whole time.
Starting point is 00:02:40 The question I was trying to ask you. Oh, there was a question. Good. I just had to make sure. The question I was trying to ask you was like, do you kind of feel like a, I mean, you've been doing social media for 12 years? Do you feel like a, I don't know, like a pressure to be perfect, I guess? Nah.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I actually like, ever since I went off. on my own. Like, I was so desperate. And I was like, whatever. I'm just going to tell the truth all the time.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And I found that there's such a strength to like showing your flaws. There's, it's so much better to be not perfect and just own that and just stay in front of the world and just be like, oh, I'm working on this. I'm working on that.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Like my addiction with marijuana or anything like like swearing or lust or prideful stuff. Like if I just put it out there and I dance in front of the world, the way I dance in the closet with God. Like, I don't have any fear or anxiety or depression because I'm not, scared of them catching me in an act that I'm trying to hide. I am who I am, like, in my home and outside.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I think that's, like, a biggest strength. That's my favorite thing about you is how vulnerable you are because it's empowering and encouraging. And when you live in the light, like, no one could really, like, say anything about you. You know what I mean? Like, you just kind of like, everything's out there. And you're just like, yep.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Like, that's just how it is. Well, yes, I thought that. But then there's people that will lie about you. Right. And then that hurt. That was like my next thing. And when I dealt with that, I asked God, I was like, I don't know how to deal with this. And I just sat there and somebody told me, they go, well, bro, they killed Jesus.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah. They lied on Jesus's name and killed them. The perfect man, they made him look like he was a drunken fool. Yeah. And so, like, I just, I got carried away with looking at the cross and then looking at the world's comments. And then looking at the cross and then looking at the world's comments. And then I grew wisdom to know that, like, this will come and go. Like, people will hate me.
Starting point is 00:04:28 and then later on love me. So, like, it's pointless for me to stay in a world that's like wish you wash it. But I stay to a God that's so true and focused that I'm just like, oh, I'm just stay. I feel a little bit more strong. Like, I'm standing on the rock and it's not quicksand. Like, the earth is like, it comes and goes. But Jesus is a rock, so I could just stand on him. How do you deal with the opinions of people?
Starting point is 00:04:52 I just, I realize that there's times where I don't like myself and there's times that I like myself. And then if I ask God, I want to be an entertainer and be in front of the world, bro, like, I, it's foolish for me to think that there's not going to be people that dislike me. But it's cool if I stick around and I show them my fruits and I just continue to walk when I'm walking. It's either eventually they'll just be like, actually, I don't like that kid at all or, wow, I really, I really do like that kid. And I grew up hated a lot as a kid. Like, I got hated. Like when I was in the third grade, I got held back in. I learned something in the third grade that I kept with my heart forever.
Starting point is 00:05:27 In the third grade, I try to pretend to be something for people not to like me, and they hated him. And I was like, well, hold on. Myself, they hated. And then the fake person they hated. Then why don't I just be who I am? Yeah. That way, they at least hate who I really am and not something I'm pretending to me. And so I kept that motion my whole life.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So you kind of feel like you kind of got a grip on that, like, pretty young. Really young. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So invite us into your faith journey. You know, I'm, I think. I think definitely for people that have seen you around on social media over the years,
Starting point is 00:06:00 like you've been outspoken about your faith that I would say for a good amount of time. But like, you know, I grew up in church, but I didn't follow Jesus and put my faith in him until I was 17. And I went to a private Christian school. So like, was there like an age that it clicked for you or an age that your faith became personal? What was that kind of like? I think that like God will humble him in, kind of like Jacob when he wrestles with them. I think there's a lot of wisdom to that, right? Like, I think when we wrestle with God,
Starting point is 00:06:31 we're able to be humbled and realize, like, what we should be focused on. So a lot of things that people are going through, they think it's a curse, but it's really to bring you closer to God. And so throughout my life, I've realized that all of my greatest moments that I was really excited about
Starting point is 00:06:45 were actually my lowest moments where he raised me up high. So my relationship with God is always blossomed because I knew that I could always run to my father, like a good father. So I've always had a relationship with him. Since I was a kid, I didn't have friends growing up.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And when my mom taught me about Jesus, like, she put so much love in my heart for Jesus that I would talk to him like every day since I was like a very young guy. And when I came to Hollywood, I got so busy. And then my relationship with him kind of like pulled back and I felt the distance. It's kind of like I personally just chose to leave the light and go into the dark. And then it took me years to realize why I felt this way. And then when I came back, I was like, oh, okay, I don't want to leave this. This is like, this is my home.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. And when you talk about like when you moved to Hollywood and then you had that gap when you were pulling away, I mean, I think like you could definitely feel it. Like when I moved out here, I could feel how people get sucked into that culture of L.A., you know? What, like when you describe that darkness, like what did that look like that time period when it pulled away? It just feels like emptiness. And by the way, I wasn't like I got involved in like drugs or like crazy things. I like was carrying the same sins that I was doing when I had my relationship with Jesus.
Starting point is 00:08:03 It's just kind of like a relationship. Like if me and you hang out but then we stop hanging out, like I'm going to feel that. So when I see you next, it's a little like, well, what have you been? But with him, like every time I came back, it just felt like I was breathing again. So thank God I never got so far away. But I also think that was because of my mother's prayers. And my one prayer that I asked God when I came here, I was like before I even auditioned or even had it.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I didn't even have Vine on my phone. Like I had nothing. And I asked God, I said, like, if it takes me one inch away from you, I don't want it. Wow. So I think the reason why my success came at the time it came is because he didn't want to give it to me if it pushed me away from him because he's going off the prayer that I asked them.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Wow. And so until this day, like, I have so many blessings. things in my life, but even including my wife or anything that material wise or anything like that, like none of them, none of them even come close to how much I love God. So like as long as I stay there with my heart, then if I'm ready to give everything up for him, then I feel like I'm in a good place. But once I start accidentally, and I do mean the word accidentally, because we do that accidentally, when I start worshiping other things out of fear, because I think you worship what you
Starting point is 00:09:18 fear. So when I was in LA and I couldn't pay my bills and it was like my first time as a man, I started worshiping money because I was like, oh, these pay my bills. Yeah. And then I had to quickly turn my head around and be like, whoa, whoa, no, no. I go, money comes from God. He'll give it to me when I need it. And bro, like, I remember days where I would walk to my mailbox praying to God praising him. Didn't even know how I was going to pay next week's rent. I'm not joking. Yeah. And I'd open up my mailbox and a check would come in there. And I'll be like, this is wildly, wildly too perfect timing. Yeah. And so like he's always given me what I've needed, nothing more to take me away from him and nothing less
Starting point is 00:09:53 to take me away from him. Not that less would take me away from him, but like, I just feel that everything that I have is from God. And so I worship it at a, I worship him and not the materialistic things. I love how open-handed you live. I feel like that's, I feel like that's like the most crucial, crucial part of living with Jesus is like living that open-handed life with everything. Relationships, friendships, money, work, the whole nine yards.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And I love, I love how you emphasize your mother's prayers for you. Bro, it's needed because it's like I was walking blindly and it was her faith
Starting point is 00:10:29 that kept the spirit hovering me through my mistakes. Like, I do believe in praying for others, man. Like my mom, okay, let's put it this way.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Like, my grandma and my grandpa, their prayers over me, my, my mother's prayers over me. It's not like God didn't hear them. So it's like if somebody gave you money, which I think prayers and blessings are way greater than money, you're going to thank them.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So you got to like make sure you're knowing where it's coming from. And that will humble you. If I walked around being like, no, it's my talent that got me this money. Or do I say, where did I get this talent from? Yeah. You got to always make sure that you're appropriate with your appreciation. Right. Because then it becomes pride.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Right. And I think that's what as a man I deal with and I always try to lock in. You know, I used to deal with sin aggressively. The one thing that I try to deal aggressively is my pride. Because at the moment in my life, the success that I have and the power that I have, the only enemy that I have is myself. Nobody else could be my downfall. God gave me everything at my fingertips.
Starting point is 00:11:30 So now it's, I got to make sure that I'm choosing him and not me. That makes any sense. No, no, that makes total sense. I mean, you know, pride's the original sin. Like, man, thinking they could be greater than God or convincing themselves, they can be greater than God. I think that's a huge encouragement to a lot of people, especially like, I mean, I think like, like people are transitioning out of high school, whether they're going to college or like,
Starting point is 00:11:53 you know, kind of like that time period where you're like, all right, I'm moving to L.A. Your initial thing was like acting, right? Like you moved out to act, like kind of transition into like independent lifestyle. It's easy to fall into that category of like worshiping work, worshiping money, worshiping friendships when you feel lonely, you know, all of those things. You know, what I guess what would the encouragement be to someone that's in that transition time period of like practically how to get out of that and like slay enslavement to those things? Choose what you fear wisely. For real.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I like, I'm at a place in my life where I only fear God because you, you worship what you fear. So I fear God then for I'll worship him. And the gospel says the beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord. And I think is because, like, think about it, if you fear your parents, you're going to be obedient. Yep. If you don't fear your parents, you'll do whatever you want. And it's kind of like you're letting yourself loose to do whatever you want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Another thing I would say is ask the Lord way more than you think. My mom used to tell me, invite the Lord on the little things. Don't just invite him on the big things. If you invite him on the big things, he'll show up for sure. Yeah. But like the little things, like if I have a reflection in my heart or thoughts or an imagination or a dream or a relationship, I invite him in everything. How do you want me to see this?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Because if I could see it from his perspective, then I could see it from the greatest perspective. If I see it from my perspective, my emotions get in the way. Or the way my parents raised me gets in the way. Or the way my school taught me gets in the way. But if I ask him, Lord, like, wash my eyes. Open my ears. That's why, like if you read the gospel, like Jesus says, for those of you that have ears and want to hear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Because not everybody who has ears will hear him because we're choosing not to hear him. Yeah, man, that's so good. I love that verse in Psalm 25, verse 14. King David says that the friendship of the Lord is for those who fear him. They're like, if you want to be friends with God, you have to have that fear of the Lord, like that deep affectionate reverence and respect. And I just think that's so true.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Like the moments in my life when I humble myself before God, that's when I live an abundant life. and I don't mean like physically like abundant like I mean like I reap the fruits of the spirit in my life like my life is abundant and joyful and patient and kind and I'm loving and I'm selfless and all those things when I begin to fear God and then when I don't fear God that's when I'm like oh why do I feel anxious or why do I feel this or why is this thing stressing me out or maybe it's even on the contrary of like why do I feel like this sin struggle I haven't struggled. struggle within a long time the temptation is creeping on me or like why because my eyes are like
Starting point is 00:14:46 everywhere but jesus you know if i think that's the prime encouragement i love that i think that's great that's what my tour's about actually so the my tour is called the man on water and i want to give it too much because people are paying to like go and see and i want to surprise him with the show yeah but like the the positioning is like i wanted to share what my mom and dad taught me and also the like the lessons that i learned from god and the most important one is anxiety and depression now sweeping the nation. And if I told any man like, hey, what does it feel to be anxious or depressed? They described like they can't breathe.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. Some might say it's like underneath water. Mm. And I told them I go, okay, is it a beautiful that God describes that with Peter. The moment that Peter took his eyes off of Jesus and looked at the problem, can't breathe no more. But the moment that he took his eyes and put it back on Jesus, he could breathe again. So I'm trying to go out across America with comedy and the podcast.
Starting point is 00:15:41 podcast and like do it the same way my mom and dad taught me my mom was never like strict like read the bible you got to do this my mom would lovingly tell me funny stories and like situations and my dad will put me in situations to make me really like understand the gospel yeah if that makes any sense no that makes total sense and i think that's such a i mean i think it's the best like it's not your mom wasn't endorsing your behavior but she was like encouraging like a faith faithfulness of jesus yeah a loving way that's the best i used to be like guilty i'd be like well, mom like, well, what if God doesn't want me to do this? She goes, she goes, that's the devil.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And she goes, and also she goes, you're rejecting what God gave you. And once I really locked in, bro, and I said, all right, well, these talents came from you, Lord. I go, so you do what you will with it. Well, that's when I left impulsive. Wow. It was crazy watching it all happened. When I saw all of that form, he, like, started paving my way. And before all that mess happened, I would always cry to my mom about my fears and all that
Starting point is 00:16:39 stuff. And one day she went to bed and she cried out to the Lord and she felt like this deep pain in her chest and the Lord visited her in her dream and in the dream she's sitting there she's trying to clean my room
Starting point is 00:16:52 and she can't clean it. It's too dirty. And so she's sitting there she's weeping. And the Lord comes in but not like in their physical form just as a light form and she like bows her head
Starting point is 00:17:01 and he says to her he goes, tell your son to go that way but where we looked in the dream there was nothing there. It was emptiness and darkness, but she didn't doubt him. She grabs me and she goes, go that way. And I don't doubt my mom and I don't doubt God in my dream.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And I run to the direction of emptiness. And as my feet are touching the ground, the Lord is paving wades for me. And just making all these things around me like, it was crazy. It was a crazy dream. And then the next day I left impulsive. That's insane. Yeah, yeah. And she didn't know that dream.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So I'm sorry, I didn't know that dream. After everything happened and I told her, I was like, mom, I don't know where I'm going. Like where I'm going, I'm lost. This is all empty. And she goes, I got to. tell you about my dream and that's what she told me my dream so then i buckled down and i like leaned into the faith and wow yeah isn't that so we kind of so we started the videos off of a dream god gave us yeah like i had moved to l.a just because i felt like lord was leading me here and then i was kind of doing
Starting point is 00:17:54 everything we're doing bible study on wednesday night house church on sunday night feeding the homeless on friday night like i was kind of doing everything for about the first year and a half and then i was like man god i want to know what my purpose is like what am i supposed to do Like I want to do something for you. I want to run hard and punch it in the mouth and like, you know, that kind of thing. And then I had a dream one night and it's kind of like you get this dream or, you know, God lays, you know, you have talents and gifts and you know that those gifts aren't just small gifts. They're big gifts and they're going to impact a lot of people, but you don't know what that looks like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 You just have that like, that like healthy burden on your chest of like, I'm going to do something with the gifts God has given me. I'm like, man, God, I want to do something in my life for you. And I get that dream and it's kind of like the same thing. it's like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to do it. And then the faithfulness that God, God rewards the faithfulness and all of those things. And like, now you're going on tour and you're going to get the blessed people. That's insane. Where can people get tickets?
Starting point is 00:18:49 So sorry, one thing. I just, it caught my spirit caught it. I can't bless people. Like, God uses me to bless people. But I don't like saying that I bless people because I'm just not worthy to bless people. Yeah, God, yeah, God's, yeah. I just want to make sure that nobody's like coming to my show thinking that I can bless them. I cannot bless them.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Like, I'm coming to me. make people laugh and tell the stories and just be George. And if God could use me in any way, shape, or form, then so be it. But I am not responsible of handing out blessings. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but if you want to come and enjoy, like, comedy and, like, watch the podcast. It's the George Janko Show.com. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:24 We're going to 20 cities. Let's go. Yeah. But I actually had a dream once, like, when I was a little kid, I was in the third grade, and I was in this resource class. Like, mentally challenged kids were like, this is just all of us. I was ADD and dyslexic. And so, like, they just put me in this class.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And a very dark thing the teacher asked me, but it was like, it was really real. Her name was Mrs. Love. I don't never forget her, man. She was the only one who actually believed in me,
Starting point is 00:19:49 man. Like, truly, like, believed me. I pray one day I can meet her again because every teacher hated me. And I just needed one to speak life into me.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And ironically, her name was Mrs. Love. And she wasn't even a teacher. She was an aide. You know, like the ones that have like the crosswalk, the stop signs up.
Starting point is 00:20:06 But they asked her. to help with the mentally challenged kids and it like gave her to me so this girl's not even a teacher but she like spoke so much life into me we were talking about god because i believed in god and she was a mexican lady and she believed in god so we would talk about god yeah but i'm in the third grade bro this is a young so like she asked me she goes well what do you hope happens like when you meet god and i and i couldn't answer that and i waited a day and i still remember this and i had a dream that when I met God, I'm like sitting there, I can't see God yet in my vision.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It looks like I'm looking up at God. And I turn around and there's more than the eyes could see of people that got introduced to Jesus because of what God used in my life. And so I told her, I said, I came to school the next day and I said, I know what I want to do before I die. And she goes, what? I go, I want to be used by God.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And she just, Look, I mean, she goes, this kid's in the third grade saying this. She's like, okay, yeah, but like, I'm talking about academics. Like, what do you want to do? And I was like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. I had to think about that too. But I remember that, like, as a young man, I would always think about God.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But that's because my mom and dad raised me that way. Yeah. Like, my mom would talk me in and tell me that I love you more than anything but God. And I just sit there being like, look at this is a little kid. I was like, why do you love God more than me? Like, I'm your son. Like, you know, and she would laugh. She goes, well, I can't.
Starting point is 00:21:33 love the gift more than the gift giver. So she's like, you're my greatest gift in the world. How can I love you more than the one who gave it to me? And so she would teach me this at a very young age. Wow, that dream was like a prophetic image of what God's doing through you now. I pray. I pray. Like, like a thousand percent it was a prophetic image.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I mean, dude, you're in the third grade. You get a dream of you turning back and looking at what God did through you to point people to him. And now like you're bringing the podcast tour. which has encouraged people in many different ways, not only in their faith journey. It's so funny, though, because people say that to me, but I truly don't even think of it that way. I think of, like, myself, like, hanging my mess out.
Starting point is 00:22:13 When I look at myself, like, people talk about me as if, like, I'm more than what I even think in my head. I think in my head is, like, I'm a dirty rag, and look what God could do with a dirty rack. And so I'm just trying to point people to, like, what is bringing you so much peace and joy. Yes. And so when they give me the credit of meeting God,
Starting point is 00:22:30 I'm like, yo, you can't think, Listen, I used to always joke at them. I'm like, listen, if you're not going to shoot the messenger, don't thank the messenger. I'm not doing anything. I'm receiving blessings and God is doing so much with me that that alone is my, like, gratefulness. But everything else, like if the reason I, like, I get so uncomfortable taking the responsibility or like the credit for somebody meeting Jesus is because I also weigh out
Starting point is 00:22:55 how many people I probably pushed away from Jesus. For sure. That haunts me. I totally understand that. I think the reality of social media and things like that is just like people are always going to say thank you. Even though like you're humble, carry yourself humbly. And like God's like looking at your heart. And I remember I had a mentor tell me one time.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He's like, look, like, because I get awkward like if we go preach at a church and people like, bro, thank you so much. And I'm like, dude. And I'm like, hey, yo, but I've seen you preach, dude. And it is wild. Bro. No, no. I'm not even, I'm not even going to lie. Like, I remember we're at the ASU thing.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And freaking Cliff just throws me into the wolf then, bro. Like, I wasn't ready. I came to listen to him. That's all I wanted to do. He's like, all right, George got it from here. And I was like, oh, it's okay. I'm like, how good could he be? He just started.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And then I started watching your preaches. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, this kid's a prodigy. I was like, the way you were just pouring out. I was like, oh, no, Jesus is speaking to this, man. Like, this is insane. Yeah, this is insane. Yeah, this is literally that, right?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Jesus speaks through you on the podcast and speaks through you on tour and speaks through you on the one-on-ones. I see how you interact with people that come up to you and say, hey, it's so encouraging. And like, you know, my mentor was like, people are going to come up and say thank you. And like, he was like, I was like, what do you tell him? And he's like, I'll tell you what I do. He says, I look at them and I say, you're welcome. And he's like, in my brain, I mentally take like a rose. He's like, a mental rose like from that person. Like a thank you. He's like, you know, if I'm leaving, you know, let's say like 20 people say thank you to him. He mentally takes an individual who rose from useless people, then he goes home,
Starting point is 00:24:29 and he gets on his knees, and he gives that mental bouquet of roses to the Lord that says, here's your flowers. That's beautiful. And I think that's such a beautiful picture because the reality of it is just like, man, people are going to be grateful for what God's doing through you,
Starting point is 00:24:43 and a lot of people are just going to associate it as being you. I cut that from its roots, though, bro. When people come up to me and thank me, I go, dude, I have nothing to do with it. I have absolutely nothing. The reason I cut it right there from its roots is because it could quickly be idolatry. They can quickly look at everything that I'm doing
Starting point is 00:25:00 and then think that, oh, Jesus is making him do this. So when I sin, if I smoke, if I do anything bad, they'll be like, oh, it's okay, George is doing it. And then I become their idol. And I'm like, no, no, no. I'm like, bro, like if you felt touched by God, how I see it is this way. It's like any man is a reflection.
Starting point is 00:25:15 It's like a mirror. If I position my heart towards the sun and it beams off of me to you, you can't thank me for what the sun is doing. So I always say, don't thank me. It's a reflection. I go, anybody can have a reflection. You could go meet.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I had more reflections off of atheists than I've had of godly men. I've seen God more in an atheist man than I've seen in some Christian men. For sure. So like from the roots, like I'll just tell them like, hey, hey, don't thank me. Like, do not thank me. The same way my mom would do that and teach me. Because, bro, they might never get that and they might go to a false wolf. And they're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And by the way, give me 15%. Or give me this or do this. or do this. But if they hear it from me, somebody they look up to or they like, and I go, hey, cut that out. Like, stop.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, position your thanks toward the Lord. If you're thankful for me, then thank God that you let me see me or whatever. But like, I don't think, man. I feel like that's what a lot of people mean.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I feel like a lot of people are really just like, man, I'm just so grateful for God using you. But then it just comes across. It's like, dude, thank you so much. And then you're like,
Starting point is 00:26:20 like, I feel the same way. Like, sometimes I'm like in my brain. I'm like, oh my gosh, like especially like if you're in an environment like tour when it's like you're going to be there like like legitimately the reality is it's probably everyone is going to be or a lot of people there are going to be like attempting to thank you and sometimes it might just be hard to be like it literally explain that to everyone and
Starting point is 00:26:39 you know well if it's a performance i mean i think you're an i tour is different you really heavily preach mine's more like comedy and like hanging out with them so they think me for performing i'm like you're welcome now that was me that performed but if it's like a biblical thing like Like if people say, oh, I know Jesus or like something about religious aspects of it, like, then I'll just like kindly to remind them like, hey, it ain't me. But if they're laughing and they're telling, if I'm telling a joke and they're thanking me for their performance, I'll take that. Yeah, I think that's pretty sweet. I can get behind that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, that's awesome. This is, but by the way, this is my young mind dealing with pride because I'm so new to the success that I have right now that like my only fear is, bro, like King Solomon was the smartest man in the world. He gave us proverbs. Yep. And this dude turned his back against God. So like, who am I? Like, that's why I cut that right away because it's such, you know how we were joking about dealing with sin aggressively?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah. Bro, like, that's why I hang myself out to dry on my podcast so I could hold myself accountable. Because if I don't, if I have nobody above me but God, bro, this is where Satan fell short. This is where Adam fell short. This is where David fell short. So I'm like, I'm seeing a repetition of this.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So I'm just not even letting that enter my heart. Like I'm not letting it. I try my best not to let it. Yeah, I think that's encouraging. I think even that's something like I was encouraged to do that more because of you. I think because of me being encouraged by your vulnerability and things like that, that encouraged me to go, man, I'm just going to be more open. You know, like, and that's, I saw myself being more vulnerable and open and just be like, yeah, I'm struggling with this or like blah, blah, blah. And that's a big encouragement.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I mean, No one knows the first time we hung out. But you like chewed me out. Bro, till this day I think about that. I've never done that in my life. And never in my life. Can I tell that story? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Bro, I'm sitting watching this kid and I'm, you, and I'm just having these daydreams of you doing amazing. But I also have this daydream where the, like, it's like the good in life is looking at you, but the bad in life is trying to get to you. And so I'm like, I keep seeing this like pride getting in your head. And so I go and I meet you and I just drill you out. I don't know why I drilled you out.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I go, yo, be careful of this. Don't do this. Like, hey, get rid of this. You were telling me things like, I don't even want to hear that. But this is the first time we ever met. I walked away and even my wife looks at me and she goes, yo, why did you go so hard on this kid? And I said, because heaven and hell are wrestling for him. And I literally walked away and I sat there with God and I go, God, I hope my pride didn't get in the way of that.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And I sat there and I prayed and I go, why did I do that? But I felt like the spirit was like, no, I wanted that. Well, when you called me next day, I told you that, like, I was, I liked me and talked to like that. I grew up rednecks. It's just like, you know, it's kind of like how you, I think it just, you needed to hear that way to register. I don't know why. But when you said thank you for that, I was like, oh, okay, cool, cool. All right, we're good.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah, I felt so bad for Bell because I think Bellfetz felt so bad. Yeah, she's like, because she's never seen me talk like that. Oh, that was like a one. I've never talked to anybody like that. Dang, I'm honored. Yeah, no, no, you're the only kid I've ever talked about. Dang, let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I got chewed out by George Janko. I'm the only one. Let's go, baby. Bro, it was weird because I had this fear of, like, you going down this path. And I was like, yo, I don't know who this kid is, but like, this kid is going to be so great for the kingdom. And he's so new. And I knew the success you were about to get is something that greater men than me have fell to. And so I was like, I'm going to just lay it down on this dude hard. So he'll never forget.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And dude, like, you remember it until now. Like, yeah, I think the job was done. Yeah. But by the way, I promise you I've never talked to anybody. And I do apologize, but... No, I mean, I didn't take offense to it. Like, yeah, I didn't take offense to it at all. Because I like being talked to like that.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And I think... It was just stern. I never want to surround myself with people that are impressed by me. Because people that are impressed by you won't tell you the truth when you need to hear it, when you should hear. Or even if, like, you know, like, I'm not even doing something. And my, like, one of my close friends, like, Dylan Chris, they just, like, remind me like, hey, bro, like, just...
Starting point is 00:30:51 You'd be cautious of this thing. Like, I know they're not impressed by me. You know, they don't care. And that's like an encouragement. I knew the moment that we met, I was like, dang, George, George isn't impressed by me. And I enjoy that. That's someone I want to surround myself with. It's someone that's impressed by, I mean, not impressed by me.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Why all you think of it that way? Because that was the only reason why I sat down with you because I was extremely impressed by it. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh. I looked at you and I was like, wow, this kid is going to be something insane. And by the way, I don't, and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think you got heat at the time.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I don't think you were fired up like the way you are now. Like you have a lot of people watching. Definitely. Wait, like he is in like, what kind of he like? Like you weren't as famous. Uh, I think you, I think we met like right before things popped off. Yeah. Bro, I'm telling you, when I met you, I was like, bro, this kid's going to pop off.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I was like, I don't know what it is. Like when I was watching you preach, I was like, oh, I go, this kid got it. Like there's something. And I didn't know about your Waffle House story or anything. I didn't know what God was doing in your life. But something in my heart was like, go talk to this kid and make sure he knows about this. And I was like, all right. So I took time out of my day to go meet some kid I'd never heard of in my life.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I sat down with you. And when I sat down with you, all of a sudden I just got, my heart started racing and I started preaching out this message to you. But it's so funny, the way it was happening was kind of like, if you watch the Andrew Tate episode, when I watched that back, I don't remember speaking like that. I don't remember talking like that. Man, that was so encouraging. Like, just to wait, sorry, just side note.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Like, that conversation would impact me deeply. That happened. That happened. That happened. That happened. There's times where, like, I'll watch you back. And I'm like, I don't even remember me saying that at all. That's how I felt when I was talking to you that one day.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah. So, like, I don't remember what I said, but I remember it was like. Bro, I'm literally thinking about, because we were eating pizza at that outdoor area in Sherman Oaks. Dude. I wish I, I kind of wish I. I kind of wish I had a video of it because it was so funny, but like George was like laying into me. And then like a kid like came up and like like like wanted to say hey to George and you like you like like zoomed out and we're like super intentional with him. And then after he left you zoom back in on me again.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And I was like oh shoot. Like what is going on? It was so funny. But I am really grateful for that. And I think like like I get what you mean when you say like you were like imprim. But you get what I mean when I say like people that are impressed by you know like I'm not a yes man. Yes. I don't care what happens. I'm just trying to make sure that you're on the right path. Yeah, those are the those are the people that I want to be surrounded with now. Now you're not in LA anymore. Yeah, well, you come in and out, but like not like you're not full time. You're in Arizona now. Yeah. And was there like just a particular reason why you moved to Arizona? My mom. So 10 years ago. Uh, well, technically now almost 12 years ago, but I moved to Arizona two years ago. Um, not in the house, but I got an apartment. I moved back.
Starting point is 00:33:51 But 10 years ago, sorry, when I moved out here, we're unboxing and on the TV is Jennifer Lawrence. And she's speaking about being on the Hunger Games or whatever. And she says something to an interview. And she goes, give yourself 10 years.
Starting point is 00:34:08 She looks up. My mom looks at me. She goes, God will complete you in 10 years from now. She goes, and you'll be successful enough to buy you a place next to me because I'll miss you. So please, when that time comes, be there.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And 10 years later, I was able to buy a place like right next to her. You guys live right next to each other? She's five minutes down the road from me. That's the reason why I bought it. I didn't even know that. Yeah. That's literally the reason why.
Starting point is 00:34:36 That's so crazy. Yeah, I'm so close with my mom and dad. And like, bro, she like, recharged me. Like when I was in this industry and like, if you hear the way that these people would speak in Hollywood, it filled me up. and like I started thinking and seeing and talking like them. Then when I go back home, she would like, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:34:53 and then just wash me up and then send me back to where I needed to be. Wow. It was like my, it's like my healing camp. Yeah. And so then when I got to the level where I'm at now, I was like, oh, I need to be there a lot more than out here now. Wow. So like if I'm coming to influence,
Starting point is 00:35:08 if I'm going to be an influencer, then I got to make sure I know what I'm influencing and I'm not being influenced. So that was, but I have a funny story about my house. Yeah, I want to hear it. Bro. Which I love your house, by the way. It was so fun.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And when we did the Avengers podcast in your living room, you guys made it look like Greece. Yeah. It looked like so like a coliseum. You know how like everybody has like a materialistic thing that they love in their heart? Yeah. I've always wanted a home that's big that people could come and rest, recover. I could have gatherings there because I watched my mom and dad do that for everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:42 All holidays were near us. Dinner's neighborhood people would come. I just watched them always do that. And throughout 10 years, I'd always save up money and make sure that I'm doing right with my money so that God could bless me with more money. And eventually in my heart, I was like, oh, like, I think I'm ready to buy a house
Starting point is 00:36:00 like near where my mom and dad is. I'm going all these houses. I'm looking at all these houses. Nothing. I don't feel anything. I was like, okay, maybe I should buy a little bit more expensive house. So I looked at this house and it's like, oh, I don't know. Then I look at this house, like, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Then I walk into the house that I'm in right now. I'm walking up the stairs. I have no neighbors. It's like a very desert. You saw that, right? But a cross from me, far from me,
Starting point is 00:36:25 it's a huge church right at the entrance of the door. You just see a big cross. And I looked, and bro, I had this, like, feeling of a spirit that I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:36 this is your home. Before I walked in to look at this house, I felt this. So I'm like, all right, no mind you, if we're going to be real.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I feel that all the time sometimes, and it doesn't really happen. You know what I mean? So I was like, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. So I walk in and my mom would always tell me, if we're going to negotiate, she goes, just make sure, you know, you don't seem too impressed at the house. But my mom would walk in and go, wow. Oh, shh.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Oh, it's okay. Like, you're like, did you get caught off guard? We'd walk around the house. It was beautiful. I walk up to the real estate agent that she was out doing an open house. And I said, excuse me, I'd like to put an offer, please. And she goes, I'm sorry. We're done.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And I was like, why? It's like yeah, like we have so many offers right now. We're not taking any more offers. I'm so sorry. This is like two days later. And I'm like, so I go home to my mom. I was like, mom, this is so weird. And she goes, what?
Starting point is 00:37:29 I go, I swear I felt like that was my house. Like it was weird. I was picturing myself praying in there, worshiping in there. Like it was weird. Like I, I like saw the house that I was like in. So I have no home. Yeah. And at the time, I'm also looking for a,
Starting point is 00:37:46 church because I grew up in a church but I kind of feel like I want to go to a different church and I feel like God's calling me to be like you know I don't know like it yeah that's a little complicated of a story but I get I give you a I I just in my heart I'm like you know like maybe like maybe I'm wrong at the moment but at the time my heart's drawing me a little bit out so I don't have a church that I'm going to and I'm weeping to God I'm like God I have no home I got no church home like I need a home. Weeks go by. I got a call from somebody and they're like, hey, do you want to meet Donald Trump?
Starting point is 00:38:25 And I'm like, what? And they're like, yeah, you have the opportunity. He wants to shake hands with you take a picture. He goes, do you want to do this? And I was like, wait, wait, Donald Trump wants to meet me? And they were like, yeah. And I was like, yeah, duh, that would be awesome. I would love to be.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Can we get them on the podcast? They're like, we'll try. I was like, so I'm just pushing for this. And I forget about the house completely. I'm so sorry. I forgot one's part of this thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:52 We're looking at another house. This is when I gave up on looking at houses. I found this other house that I'm looking at. I'm like, maybe my dad would like this. Maybe this is it. So I send him the address. He calls me. He goes, I'm outside.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I go, what are you talking about? I'm outside. You're not here. He goes, I don't know. I'm at this house. You sent me this house. I'm here. And I send him the address again.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He goes, oh, what the heck? I'm eight minutes away. I'll see you soon. Remember this story. Okay. Okay. So then I go to shoot supply. I'm getting a suit.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I'm getting dressed out. Now I'm not even thinking about the house. Right. I'm just thinking about meeting Donald Trump. Right. I go to sleep that night and all I keep thinking about is like, God, please, like, when I meet him, like, make sure I'm, like, thinking about you. I'm not thinking about anything else. If I need to talk to him about something.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I'm just prepping myself for Donald Trump. I go to sleep. I wake in my dream. I wake up in this dream and there's a bright light in front of me. And I have to bow my head in front of him. him and I'm weeping. And he goes, I've given you your homes. I wake up.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I forget. And Bell goes, how did you sleep? As soon as she says, how did you sleep? I remember my dream. And I go, Bell, God said I have my home. As soon as it left my mouth, I get a call from the real estate agent. I answer. She goes, hey, that house fell through.
Starting point is 00:40:13 She goes, do you want it? She goes, but I'm wearing a suit right now. and I got to go meet Trump So I go yeah But I got to go meet somebody real quick Can I meet you afterwards? She goes yeah, I'll hold it down And I go okay
Starting point is 00:40:23 So I go meet Trump Where I meet Trump I learned three weeks later Was the church that I attend to now Oh And the church is called Dream City Wow Then I go to the real estate
Starting point is 00:40:37 To meet the house Or the lady of the house I go in there We make an offer My dad rushes Because we want to expect the house Before we do all that stuff He comes in
Starting point is 00:40:45 He goes oh George this is the house that I showed up at when you sent me that address. Wow. So God took him there randomly in front of that house. And so the day that I had the dream, I walked through God's house that he wanted me to worship at. Wow. And then after I walked through the house that he wanted me to worship at, he let me walk through the home that I have now. All in the dream that I had to.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Crazy. It was weird, bro. Praise God. It was really cool, bro. Now, every time I'm in there, I'm just like, I'll have like fears of my heart. I'm like, oh, what if I don't make it? and like I can't afford this house. I'm like, bro, like, what am I?
Starting point is 00:41:18 Why am I? The devil always tries to steal your joy. I'm like, dude, the dude gave me a dream, bro. If he's going to take it, it's for his will, then let him dig it. But yeah, it's been, every time I walk into that house, bro, like, I just sit there and I worship and I just go, this is crazy. Like, I, and by the way, I don't think I have any, like, powers or anything, but I think because I just focus so much and I have so much faith that I'm able to see things and
Starting point is 00:41:42 feel things that majority of people can't because they're so. focus on the world if that makes any sense yeah bro i think you got great spiritual gifts and i think you're sharp yeah that's crazy bro yes it's god and that's gonna be the that's gonna be the house that you like raised the family you know my mom said the other day and i was like it's so funny i've never really been attached to things so like i love the house and i think it's beautiful but if god was like hey you got to bounce tomorrow and live in a smaller house or an apartment or like even go to a bigger house like yeah i've no attachments to things yeah yeah i've like it's so weird i've never had attachments of things. That's so cool. Well, my mom and dad sent me down to move out of our family home.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I was like excited. I was like, we're leaving? Where are we going? And they're like, you're not sad? I go, no. You know why? Because I, when I was on a plane, I got really sad one day when I looked down and I saw all these homes and all these people and I was young and I cried. And my mom goes, why are you crying? I go, look at all these people will never meet. And she goes, why does that affect you? I said, bro, this world, we only have this much amount the time and people stay in the same four walls. And I'm like, that's wild to me. Go outside and meet somebody.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Go outside to a different country. If you're living in one area and you're like, hey, I feel stuck and anxious, dude, it's probably because you're not supposed to be there anymore and you're too scared to leave. Get out. Leave. Sell your possessions. Now I understand when God said sell your possessions and go preach. And the guy walked away weeping because he knew he couldn't.
Starting point is 00:43:05 It's because he was a slave to the possessions that he had. And bro, I pray to God, I will never be. ever in my life, a slave to my possessions, bro. Because they're all going to collect moth and rust. And I don't want to be collecting that. I'd rather collect the treasures
Starting point is 00:43:19 and the kingdom. So if God says, hey, get up and go to Africa, then I'll go up and go to Africa. If he's saying, hey, I want you to live in a beautiful neighborhood, then I'll go up and live in a beautiful neighborhood. Wherever he wants me to go,
Starting point is 00:43:31 then I pray that I go. That's so cool. So encouraging. Yeah, I think everyone, I think, again, like that open-handed life that you live is so encouraging. It's freedom, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's freedom, and it's literally, you know, I want to encourage you because I know that you encourage me a lot, so I want to encourage you. I feel like oftentimes our biggest strengths as humans in character qualities are the things that we beat ourselves up the most about. Yeah. And I really want to encourage you, man. Like, you are a man that is humble and carries himself in humility. And like, I see that in you. because I love your zeal for being like, man, you know, I hate pride. Pride sucks, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And I'm like right there with you. But man, like, you're incredibly humble and it encourages me. Thank you, brother. And I appreciate you. What are like some goals coming up with the podcast that like? Dude, you know, my whole life, dude, I've been just, I want this to be like this. And then when I look back, God has blessed me with like directions. I just go places and I flow.
Starting point is 00:44:38 in the Bible, I think it's in revelations, but they describe life like smoke, and they could be one thing one day and then completely something else immediately. So I'm not gonna, like I stopped, I know it sounds crazy, and a lot of people might disagree with me, but I stopped planning my futures.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I just think about today and what I think God wants me to deal with in the future, but I don't set stones in the future. What my dreams are right now is that I just, I'm a performer, I can make movies and TV shows you can make music I can do all these things
Starting point is 00:45:11 some are going to be for the glory of God and some are just going to be art forms that could just be like fishermen where I go out into the world and people are like oh I like that work and then they could go visit my work for God you know what I mean like so I just want to go out and create just the way that my father was creating
Starting point is 00:45:26 he was a carpenter for a reason he liked to create things and I just I just want to create and in a few years God willing, the trajectory, like in the next two years, I won't have any debt at all. Like, no homes will have debt, no cars will have debt, no nothing will have debt. And everything I'll make will be a bonus.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And I just pray that God will use me to, if he's going to put money in my hand, that I pray that I put it in the hands that need it. And if he's going to put fame in my hands, I pray that I am exposed and influencing in things that need to be. And if he needs to humble me in front of the world, and that's the skill. part, and I pray that it opens the eyes of others so they don't need to be humbled. But whatever he needs to use me for, I'm in. Because every time I tell him what I want, I always suffer.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And every time I ask for his will, I thrive. So like I'm just don't plan anymore, man. I'm just living in today and asking for today my daily bread and just thanking him. But yeah, every time I look towards the future, I got super anxious. Every time I looked at the past, I got depressed. So I think that the reason present is called present is because it's a present from God And I just want to cherish that gift and not take it for granted Dang
Starting point is 00:46:40 Encouraging I appreciate you so much Dude thanks for coming on the pod I appreciate you a ton I love talking with you and catching up with you And yeah I'm just grateful for you and just so grateful for what God is doing through you And thank you for just being willing and saying yes to everything God's doing Thanks man I appreciate you bro yeah
Starting point is 00:47:01 How old are you did Uh, 21. When I was 21, I was a Benihana chef. No way? Yeah. Out here? No, I was 20 when I was a Benihanna chef. Out here?
Starting point is 00:47:12 No way, yeah, I was a Benihana ship. No, no, no, no, no. And Arizona. Oh, you know they don't have yum yum sauce there? Yeah, bro, I hated people like you. That's it. You go yum yum sauce? Like, bro, no, I don't got yum yum sauce.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Dude, that's the best stuff. Yum yum yom. Yeah, yum. I have people that ask for extra, like garlic butter. No, no, no, more garlic, bro. I'm like, bro. You can have diabetes, they chill out. Yum yum is the best for.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I've never even had it. Really? It will change your life. But it's called Yum Yum Sauce. Dude, it's so good. If you get the chance, wait, do you guys have a show in Atlanta? Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I'm going to send you a Habachi spot to go to. You're from Atlanta? I'm from North Georgia, yeah. Atlanta, yeah. Sorry, my brain just went so bad with geography. I'm going to send you a Habachi spot that you got to go to. Cool. You have to go there, though.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Okay. All right, deal. Okay, deal. Amen. All right, that's how you end. Thanks guys for watching. Appreciate you guys. Guys, thank you so much for watching and listening to this episode.
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