The Bryce Crawford Podcast - What the Quran Gets Wrong About Jesus | Shahriq Khan (EP 216)

Episode Date: August 10, 2026

What the Quran Gets Wrong About Jesus | Shahriq Khan (EP 216) ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 My life was infinitely better as a Muslim. I would have inherited my dad's seven-figure business. I would have married an amazing girl who I was totally in love with. People don't understand the cost of leaving Islam, bro. You lose your family, your connections, you lose your network, who lose your boys. I eventually would break up with my girlfriend who was a Muslim. That was heartbreaking, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I lived in my car for two months. In the next two years, despite leaving Islam, I never let Christ into my life. I became super suicidal. I never had those thoughts when I was Muslim. When I started following Christ, they really started hitting me hard. Allah, please save me. Why is my mind letting me down? I'm so numb and I don't care about myself.
Starting point is 00:00:33 My lowest moment, I reverted to Islam. I said, Allah, you come save me. And that was the night that I met Christ for the first time. Oh my gosh. What was that like? Hey, before we get into today's episode, I want to share two quick things with you. First, if these videos have meant anything to you, if they've encouraged your faith or helped you see the gospel a little bit more clearly, I just want to ask you to subscribe. A lot of people tune in every single week and haven't hit the button yet. It only takes two seconds, and it helps us keep putting these.
Starting point is 00:01:00 these conversations in front of people who need them. And the second thing, this one I've honestly been really excited to say, I'm officially announcing our ministry's biggest live event to date, Open Heaven Live Podcast Tour. It's happening November 8th this year at the Pavilion at Toyota Music Factory in Irving, Texas. This is going to be a night centered around worship, faith, real conversations, and genuine community. I believe God is going to move in a powerful way, and I would love for you to be in the room.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Tickets are on sale right now. You can head to Brycecroffer.org slash tour or just click the link in the description below. And please only get your tickets through my official site or that link below. I recommend not buying from random resellers online. I believe this is going to be a really special night and I hope to see you there. All right, let's get into the episode. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I'm Bryce. And today we have an incredible guest on here, someone that I thoroughly enjoy learning from. We have Sharik Khan on the podcast. Dude, Mr. Bryce Crawford, bro. This is an honor. Oh, dude. I love you, man. This is so special.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Well, I love you, bro. This genuinely means a world to me. I, dude, I learned from you so much. So kind of how I found out about you was I've been diving into the, the Muslim stuff and Islam for a little over a year trying to like get in there. And then I started noticing that I was like getting a few things like slightly incorrect. And then that's when I discovered your content and discovered all the work that you're doing. So if you all don't know, Sharik, he basically has this like free evangelism school for Islam, used to be a Muslim. We're going to get into a story. But,
Starting point is 00:02:27 I'm in the school and I learn on the videos and the master key. We're going to get into all of it. But if you guys want to learn more about Islam, if you look in the description, it's literally free to join his school. I've been so blessed by it. I want you guys to be a part of it. So thank you for all the resources.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Dude, it's an honor to be here, man. There's a lot of voices out there on Islam. Like, what is it? How do we critique it? And the difference is, like, I just came out of it. And so I really just try to be charitable. I try to understand it for what it is.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I try to like straw man it or be weak at it. And so that's cool is just a fruit of that, man. So I'm happy that you're in it. bro, being, we gotta get the strong men to evangelize and lock arms on this. Yes, and I was stoked. Oh, dude, well, thank you. Well, I'm excited to learn. And I also have these cowboy boots on that Sharra gave me.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So if you are watching and you're wondering why I have these cowboy boots on with no pants, it's because I had no idea and was not planning on wearing cowboy boots today. But here we are. Dude, you can't be in Dallas and not have the ostrich boots on. It's mission critical, bro. They look great on you, by the way. Bro, they, they like feel high quality. Amazing. So thank you so much. Dude, it's a joy, bro. It's a course. Dude, I want to like kind of backtrack a little bit. So you grew up Muslim in New York. Yeah. Tell me what that was like. Dude, it was, it was surreal. I didn't understand a lot of it until I, you know, I kind of reflected back on it. But I always start the story with my dad. So my dad is actually one of 17. And he grew up in Pakistan, right? Yeah. They know how to be 17 children. Yeah. So he had nine brothers, five sisters and the two parents. Oh my God. So the family. Oh, my God. So the family.
Starting point is 00:03:56 of 17. Yeah. And it's a big family. Yeah. Be fruitful and multiply. They know how to, the punch. Hey, I will say Muslims know how to have kids. They know, they know how to have kids. Not negotiable, man. It's a blessing, right? And so, so my dad actually, like, he was, he was the golden child in his family and they had the money, the resources, like the golden ticket visa to send one kid to America. And he was like the middle child. And then he, he did it. He was fascinated with America, bro. Like, he, he loved the train systems and the cities and the infrastructure. And he would come here when he was 19 years old with $60 in his pocket. This fobby dude straight off the boat, like Afro mustache, like didn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And he lived like the American dream. Like he came to America. He loved America. He would end up going to college here studying electrical engineering. And he would climb from a taxi cab driver in New York City. Crazy story behind that. It's actually how he met my mom was in the back of one of those cabs. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:04:52 He picked her up. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, love story. Taxi riz. Yeah, bro, this is so funny. He turned over and he's like, where are you going? And she's like, oh, I work at the bank.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And he's like, will you help me with my resume? And she's like, no. Like, absolutely not. And they got married and had. Yeah. And then months later, my dad picked her up again, which is like, I think that's a miracle. Whoa. In New York culture with like hundreds of thousands of cab drivers, like he picked up again
Starting point is 00:05:18 months later. And he's like, hey, will you help me with my resume? And she's like, sure. Like this fob you do with an accent just totally won me over. She's like a New York, like driving a hot rod Indian girl. Wow. Yeah, really funny, bro. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. So my dad's a savage, apparently. And he won her fast. So he would actually end up, you know, joining her. And she would actually get him a job, actually at one of the banks. And my dad lived like the American dream. And on the back of his Islamic faith, he labored and he worked and he had a vision for a family. And he would climb to become the SVP of one of the biggest banks in New York.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Whoa, that's a big deal. On the tech side. So he's a mom. Yeah, wicked smart. Wow. And he's, he did it from the ground up. And the reason I'm sharing the story is because he actually was in New York City when 9-11 happened.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Oh my goodness. Yeah. And so this is like the first defining moment of my life. So September 11th, 2001, about three and a half, actually. And some of my first memories, my dad actually saw the second plane hit the Twin Towers of his own eyes. And he was in New York. And he was like the floor warden of his company.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And so he was responsible for getting everybody off and being safe. and I remember my mom didn't even hear for him for about six hours. And so some of my earliest memories were watching the news and being like, I mean, I'm like running around like a little baby in my den, and I'm looking at the news and it's like, what is Islam? Who are these terrorists attacking us? We're in New York and we're in a city of blue-collar workers, so it's a bunch of cops and firemen and first responders.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And when I go to like pre-K and kindergarten, I'm treated differently. I'm treated completely differently. This is actually like a very niche memory, but I was in kindergarten and I went to Pakistan for a few weeks. and when I came back, my kindergarten teacher looked at me and said, we were so much happier without you when you weren't here. What? Yeah, because I was being loud in the classroom and I was disruptive
Starting point is 00:07:01 and I was wearing like a sub-walking mese for like a culture day in kindergarten. And she said that to me and it was, it like hurt me a lot. And that's when I was like, that's when the fear of the Lord I say came all my life was when I was like three and a half and then in kindergarten it was about four or five was we were treated differently for being Muslim from the start because it's something we never did. There was like a blood guilt on us. and people were so curious about what Islam was
Starting point is 00:07:24 and my earliest identity was hey I'm going to be a Muslim and I remember going to Sunday school all the time and people saying to me hey we have to prove to this world this is not what Islam is and this is your mission in life this is who you are
Starting point is 00:07:37 this is what you're going to do you're going to be the smartest kid in your grade you're going to be the lion leader you're going to be the fastest kid in your grade performance mode like through the max and I lived into it for a long time and that's how we win hearts to Islam so your faith
Starting point is 00:07:51 growing up from that moment became extremely serious to you. Yes. And okay, so just side question on that. So when you were going to Sunday school, they were like, you have to devote your life to this so that people don't realize Islam is like that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 But I guess the American news would say Islam is like that. Totally. So what is the truth? Yeah, we can, so we have to do this at a very high level. We have to understand. definitions of terms. Okay, so there's two terms that I really want everyone to know. There's Muslims and there's Islamists, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Islamists have a extreme political ideology. They believe that Islam and Sharia law should be in every act of government. Those are people who are running the government in the 53 Muslim majority countries. They have political ideologies that truly, when you hear like, Islam isn't compatible with the West,
Starting point is 00:08:42 that's what they're talking about. Most Muslims, especially here in the West, I'm very focused on the Western Muslims, just because that's who I was, super westernized, like New York and Texas, you know, like I know Arabic that well. I didn't really like understand Islamic culture. I grew up in it, but like we're westernized.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Like we've assimilated. It's a good word for that. So then there's Muslims. And Muslims are the ones who follow the Quran, who believe in Muhammad's last prophet. And they, 95% of the Muslims in my life that I've personally talked to in the last two years alone, heavily disagree with the Islamist perspective. So to group them all as this one ideology, well, first of all, we're taking an ideology and we're projecting it onto people, which is not what we should do. We should love
Starting point is 00:09:24 Muslims and we should stand so firmly against Islam or anything that's not in the kingdom of Christ, it's not even funny. So the first thing I say is, hey, let's take the person away from their ideology. Like, how does Christ see the sinners? He says the sin in you is what I'm here to cast out, right? Yeah. Like the sin in you is what's really wrong. And he sees people for their highest, like, he gives them the benefit of the doubt. He's like, I love you as a child of God first, and you have this ideology that needs to be ripped through with the gospel. So that's what I'm saying to most people. Dang, I think I've definitely had that misconception then for sure.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Like I think it's easy to, I mean, it's easier said than done to be like, oh, not every Muslim is a terrorist, right? Like that would be awful to say like, you know, every person is, you know, anyone that steals as a criminal or whatever, you know, whatever you want to say. But like that, I think that has definitely been something I have been misinformed about. But how I guess then, why do you think then Muslims are not swayed by the Islamists? Is that because they've assimilated with the West? Like if they weren't in the West, then they would feel that way as the Islamists? Yeah, it's very heavily environment dependent. It's literally how they were raised and how they grew up in what system of beliefs and structures and what they were taught.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Like me being a child of an immigrant, so I'm an American citizen. I was born into America. I had a chance to challenge Islam with Western values. And that to me was a blessing because if I was born in a family of 17 in Pakistan, I look at the indoctrination that I still am loving my dad out of bad ideas, ideologies of Islam that I see so clearly in everything he does. I'm like, dude, I was one brother away in his family
Starting point is 00:11:08 from that being me and being so indoctrinated by the Quran and Islam that I would have no way out. And so a lot of the issue that I'm seeing, and I actually work pretty. heavily in politics now too, just being in Texas, it's such a relevant conversation. I've had people on the far right come at me for being a fake ex-Muslim because they don't even believe that Muslims can be saved. Like, they don't like Muslims so much that me as a born-again believer who I have a cross tattoo on my hand, and by the Quran's own theology, if you leave Islam and then you bring
Starting point is 00:11:37 people out of the truth of Islam, like you're going to the bottom part of hell. Like, you're screwed. You're the worst kind of Muslim. So I'm like, even if I am a fake ex-Muslim, I'm like, I'm really bad at doing that. Yeah. Like, I'm super Christian. Like, come on,
Starting point is 00:11:49 guys, let's wake up. Like, I run a giant Muslim industry, bro. What are we doing, guys?
Starting point is 00:11:54 Anyways, but there's ideas out there that we just have to challenge, and the easiest way to do that is just to talk to people and actually get that experience yourself because 99% of the Muslim
Starting point is 00:12:03 I've talked to here in DFW stand so firmly against terrorism, stand so firmly against different hadiths that are political or enforce certain ideas, which I don't even want to go into because I don't use the moral critique at all. And it's just, it's not who they are.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Well, that's what actually, one of my favorite things about you is, like, I'm not going to lie from an outsider in, even if you don't know anything about Islam and you hear, you know, you read Bacari and, you know, the stuff with Aisha, like, yeah, it is polarizing. Like, it is extremely polarizing if you, if you read that. If you, if you look at more, like the moral side of things. But I, that was something that I had to repent of with the Lord of going like, like, like, yeah, it's. polarizing and it makes you go, what the heck? Like, this is crazy and you just want to like say it and rip it. And then after you rip the band-aid on, you're like, I'm actually not planting seeds. I'm just like, for lack of better terms, I'm just frustrating Muslims. And that was something like I had to repent of was like, I'm not planting a seed. I'm just like actually frustrating someone.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And I got to say that to neon, which was like, I bet you appreciated that. Which was super fun. And yeah, yeah. So like, that was one of the things. And, also too about avoiding the moral argument, if you're only using the Quran, you're reaching every sect of Islam, right? Not like, Sunni is 80-ish, not, it's 90%. It's about 1.8 billion of them. And then the Shiites, 10%. Yeah. So like, they're, they're Quran only, right? They would reject most of the Hadith. Yeah. So, so it's like it doesn't matter if you don't point to the moral argument. You can just use the Quran on all of them. Yeah. And you know, let me take you step further because it's not only that, it's the goal of the gospel is to make disciples who make
Starting point is 00:13:51 disciples. And I'm going to say this very honestly, this is one of the most controversial things I say is I don't know a single devout Muslim or real Muslim who was actually fully convinced to leave Islam by that argument alone. Because when I had that argument, I would go to my Sheikh or my moms or my scholars and where I was disciple, they didn't even believe that she was nine. They had a whole like 600 PhD thesis on her being between the ages of 12 and 19 based on like Hadith sciences. And, and critiques of all the Hadith and lurking at historical stuff of her family of how old her sister was when they died
Starting point is 00:14:22 and there's so much overwhelming evidence that I can say this with a clear heart. I don't even know if she was not and I'm like kind of 50-50 on it. But the whole point is if somebody does leave Islam because of a moral critique like that, they're definitely not going to be equipped enough
Starting point is 00:14:36 to go back to their family and their mosque and their people and then disciple their own family out of that. And that's my biggest issue with it is it's so easy to just say that but I don't think it's that effective at converting Muslims to Christianity and I definitely don't think it's effective
Starting point is 00:14:50 for discipleship into Christ and the issue is if you use a moral critique to bring somebody out of Islam then they're going to look and they're going to look at the morals of the Bible and they're not going to see the Bible as an authority because you're using a secular
Starting point is 00:15:07 westernized argument to lead a Muslim out of Islam well they're going to look at everything that way the thing we need to do is make the Bible, their authority in their lives. And the way that we do that with the master key, which we'll, you know, we'll dive into is we only use the Bible and the Quran to deconstruct the Quran. That way you understand that the Bible is the new source of truth. Yeah. Because, yeah. Calling Muhammad a pedophile, like, that's not effective. I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And the Muslims will get, it might be effective for non-Muslims. Totally. Like, if I'm like, wow, yeah, that you, that is crazy. And, yeah, you know, I, it definitely is interesting. I got to sit down with Sam Shammoon, which he's like very passionate about Islam and, you know, things like that. And he went down like, I don't know how he has all this stuff, like engraved from his brain, but it's like he has commentaries, like Muslim commentaries engraved in his brain. He's like pulling this commentary. And this is why it confirms this. And I'm just like, you are a internet database for Islamic sources. And I don't. And I don't. don't understand. It is wild.
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Starting point is 00:17:15 every gallon on your first tank of gas. That's an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas using promo code Bryce. All right, back to the episode. I do respect that a ton about you strictly using the Quran in the Bible, which fascinates me so much. And furthermore, your emphasis on the Old Testament is so cool because if you ask a lot of Christians about the Old Testament, they kind of like freeze up, which I'll get to some Old Testament questions that I have for you later on. But before we kind of get to all that, with you being in a Muslim family, becoming passionate about your faith, was Islam actually something you really believed?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Or was it just an identity thing? So the answer was I loved Islam. And I had no doubt that it was true. And it was everything. It was culture. Like it was my family. It was my mentors of doctors and lawyers, like wicked smart Muslims. I had a Muslim girlfriend that I was dating that I was ready to marry.
Starting point is 00:18:13 and we're going to build a family on faith. It was the driver behind everything I did. And I had, like, I loved my life. Like my life, this is one thing I tell a lot of Muslims who accuse me of just like doing this for clout. I'm like, my life was infinitely better as a Muslim. Like, I would have inherited my dad's seven-figure business. I would have married an amazing girl who I was totally in love with,
Starting point is 00:18:32 but just super unyoked with. I would have still had all my best friends from high school. My friends are getting married right now. And like, sometimes I kind of skip the wedding because I'm like super anxious because I'm going in a room of 400 Muslims who know what I do. and I've been in those rooms before and it's like not the best environment.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Like I'm just like, like they know that I am actively doing my line of work. Yeah. Which is against Islam. Yeah. And so I tell people that, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:18:55 do I have no motive to actually be Christian other than this just being completely true. Wow. You know? And when you were in college, you were basically like a Muslim apologist. Love to it.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You pulled 60 people away from Christianity. Probably more. Oh my goodness. Probably more, man. Okay, so, so yeah, let me tell you that story, man. So I get to college and being a Muslim growing up, like you have this chain of command in your life where if you have a question, you ask your parents,
Starting point is 00:19:24 and then they ask their imams, and they ask the sheikhs, and you don't ever really break that. Like if anything, any issue, any dispute in your life, any question, you go to the mosque. So going to college was the first time that I ever got challenged on any beliefs. And I realized that most people at my college were not Muslim.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And I'm spending my whole life thinking, you know, Was I ever the most devout Muslim? No. Was I the most educated Muslim? No. Was I the smartest guy on the block? No. But I had the fear of God, fear of Allah, I guess, on my life. And it drove me. And so what I was doing was I was always engaging with people in the central square of UT Dallas. Went to UT Dallas to very liberal, very Muslim school now. And I was talking to all the Muslim guys, and they were really devout in their faith.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And so I end up saying, you know, I get to college. And I'm like, you know, I grew up in Islam, but I kind of want a different life. I end up joining a fraternity and I end up climbing to become a fraternity president. And during that climb to become a fraternity president, I started engaging my Christian friends and the guys at parties and I was known for like, we would drink and go to parties and I would start bringing up with faith. So why do you believe in Christianity? Because I started getting obsessed with apologetics.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And one thing about me was it was so painful for me to question my faith. I don't say this a lot, actually, but it was so painful me to like question my faith that I'd go out drinking with the fraternity guys and then I'd come home. And because I was drunk, I had like the lowered inhibition to actually just like research against Islam and try to like look at it. So most of my debates and apologetics I have studied and obsessed with, I actually had to like, you know, what's the word? Like, inebriate myself. Yeah. To actually process the fact.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Because I said I didn't want to challenge it. I hated challenging it. And I would challenge my friends about Christianity. I would use examples that all Muslims used today. And I just wanted good reasons for what I believed in, man. And so what I noticed was. I was so insecure in my Muslim faith that I was constantly, every time there was like a Bible study, I'd be like, no, dude, like, let's hit the,
Starting point is 00:21:17 let's do something else. Let's go to a sorority mixer. Let's go hit the, let's go to the gym. Let's do something else. And eventually I was just kind of playing these seeds that I did it subconsciously. I was bringing so many guys away from their faith, and they knew I was this Muslim guy, but I was still living a double life. Like I was Muslim, but I was so deep in sin and I was condemning myself because, you know, in Islam you have to repent. That's a repentance culture.
Starting point is 00:21:38 We'll dive into that in the theology. and I was repenting and praying and I just slowly lost conviction and I stopped practicing in college. Wow. Yeah. But I still knew the arguments. And I was like, Christianity is definitely not true. Now being a Christian and looking back and knowing that you pulled people away. Like, how have you dealt with that?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Dude, it's heavy, bro. It's really heavy, bro. It was one of the things I just felt so guilty of because, dude, it weighs on you, bro. like you look at some of the boys and like being fraternity president, I actually take a lot of responsibility. I was like some of those guys still have alcohol addictions. Some of those guys still haven't reached their potential. And I was educating them and leading them. And I was so degenerately against Christianity until, you know, I actually would come to Christ in college and might have my first encounter there. But I feel horrible about it. And I repent. And it's like the
Starting point is 00:22:29 dealt boys at UTD, man. Like I love you guys. If you guys are seeing this, call me. I'd love to call you too. We love to talk to you guys and talk about how serious faith is, bro. And so have you talked to any of them? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, tons of them. That's amazing. I run into them all the time and they're like, wow, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Like I came to Christ too and like it's amazing and I see my church sometimes. I'm like, that's awesome. Dude, praise God. I got to go back. I want to go back so badly. And I'll be doing a lot of campus ministry at UTD the next few years. So when did you start questioning Islam? Yeah, it was probably about 2018.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Okay. 2018. And this is an amazing story. It was when I was a fraternity president at this time. and my fraternity vice president was like my drinking buddy and we'd hang out all the time, he radically comes to Christ. He's like a 6.5 baseball player,
Starting point is 00:23:12 total stud, bro. He's an animal. His name's Aaron. So Aaron all of a sudden comes to Christ really hard in the middle of all this fraternity, degenerate nonsense. And he's my vice president, so I'm super yoked with him
Starting point is 00:23:24 and we're like doing all this work together. And I'm like, dude, there's something different about this guy. Like he went from a fraternity guy to finding an amazing woman of God and being like, I'm not even going to kiss her until marriage. And they got married super fast. that she was a beautiful, loving, like, woman of God, like, amazing community.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And I saw that. And I was like, dude, there's something so different about you. And that was the first time in my life I saw somebody's heart radically changed because of this gospel thing. And the truth is, is that was all I've ever wanted in my whole life. Like, I found so much joy and purity and it got ripped away from me in college. I love being pure and sinless and, like, happy and holy and like unjaded. And it was just getting ripped away from me.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And I was like, that's not who I am, man. It's not how I grew up. That's not how I was raised. It's not my family values. We were taught in Islam that we found so much joy in purification and sanctification. We loved it. We loved it. And we had a real fear of God.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So when that happened, I really looked into it. I started looking at all the debates, all the apologetics. I was reading, you know, Nabil's Qurayshu's books. I read that when I was Muslim twice. Yeah. My family actually threw it away because they didn't want me reading that nonsense. He's seeking a law, finding Jesus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And then he has like another one on like jihad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I really wish he was still alive today. man. Yeah, he's a gladiator. He died from pancreatic cancer or something like that, which is like at the age of, I think, 34. Yeah, he was a, he was a beast. Great stuff online. Yeah, monster in the face. Didn't mean to cut you off. No, no, doctor like crazy apologetics, amazing guy.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. And so, so here's what happens. Let me, let me, let me cut to some of the good stuff. So I go to a really emotional Christian conference, Stumo conference at New Year's, right, into 2020. And huge altar call. Like, if you want to give your life to Christ, stand. up and it's a stadium. I think Jonathan Pocluta's preaching at this time. And I see literally like 25,000 college kids all stand up and start like cheering. And I'm sitting there. I'm the only guy in the entire arena who's sitting down like I am not giving my life to Christ. This is ridiculous. Wow. But eventually I'm like, dude, if if all these people are so passionate about it and I'm not just seeing Muslims anymore, I'm not, I'm seeing I'm seeing like Korean people and white people and
Starting point is 00:25:30 Mexican guys and like Canadians and Swedish people, all of them are like unified on this banner of Christ in this conference. And I'm like, okay, if this Christ thing is true, like, I haven't given it a full shot. I'm going to try. So I stand up and everyone's looking at me like, whoa. Like Shark just stood up at a conference to give his life to Christ. And I talked to my fraternity vice president about it. He's like, wow.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And he showed me a note on their like billboard that this entire ministry at UT Dallas was praying for me for years for me to come to Christ. And then he was laboring for me. And I was like, whoa, this is amazing. What happens next sucked. I call it headhunting. It's headhunting for salvation, getting the number,
Starting point is 00:26:07 and then leaving because I wasn't in a church, I wasn't disciples, and I was a Muslim, and people don't understand the cost of leaving Islam, bro. You lose your family. You lose your connections. You lose your network.
Starting point is 00:26:18 You lose your boys. Because you want to talk about this newfound faith you have, but you can't prove it just yet. Like you're such a new baby believer. And I got lost. They didn't invite me out to church as enough, which is my fault too.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I should take an initiative, but I preach this a lot. If you're going to be engaging Muslims, if you're going to be evangelizing Muslims, bro, this is for you too. Don't evangelize Muslims unless you're willing to be the thing they lost. Like, unless you're willing to be the couch that they can crash on, which I needed to do, I lived in my car for two months, unless you're willing to be the friends that they lose, the family they lose, the girlfriend, not that you're going to be the girlfriend for who they lose,
Starting point is 00:26:49 but there's a lot of cost that people don't understand when you're leaving an indoctrinated cult. It happens with every other cult as well. If you're a Jehovah's Witness, they lose a lot. If you're Mormon, they probably lose even more, being so westernized and Americanized, and they still leave that as well. So I always preach that. I'm like, maybe don't engage unless you're willing
Starting point is 00:27:09 to actually make disciples. Like don't make Christians, bro, make disciples. That's the most important mission we were on. Wow. And so I lost that. And so for the next two years,
Starting point is 00:27:17 despite leaving Islam, I never let Christ into my life. I didn't know what discipleship was. I didn't have a Bible. I didn't have a pastor to walk with. I had nothing. Dude, so you were just kind of in this weird middle ground
Starting point is 00:27:27 of like, all right, I said I was going to start following Jesus, but there wasn't real structural follow through or anything like that. Wow. You know what that leads to, bro? I became super suicidal. Wow. Yeah. Because you had lost everything without gaining my, yeah, my buddy David, who's like is obsessed with Islam. He always says that. He's like, you know, if you don't, if they lose their family and they don't find that family in a church family, you know, they, it makes someone who was Muslim or someone who is interested in deconverting from Islam. not interested if they don't have that substitute of going, I'm going to lose everything I have
Starting point is 00:28:09 and then what, I'm just going to stand in this weird middle ground. So how long did you battle with suicide? Dude, so, so I never had those thoughts when I was Muslim. When I followed, started following Christ, they really started hitting me hard. Um, two years. So two years. And like, I'm just a random kid, man. Like, imagine, imagine like Sneako or, or neon or like, Tate, Angel Tate coming to Christ. I pray they do a lot. lot, bro. I really want them to. They would face 500 times more backlash than I ever did. Like, I just got, my family had a really emotional reaction. It was very hard. Lots of crying, lots of tears. You know, I had to step away from my family for a bit just to process everything.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I lost a lot of friends. I eventually would break up with my girlfriend who was a Muslim. That was heartbreaking, dude. So for two years, I end up just self-sabotaging. Like, I feel bad. I genuinely feel bad for anybody in their life that does not have Christ. I don't know how in the world you navigate business and travel and relationships and experiences and friendships without Christ. Especially if you're Muslim and you don't have Christ. I'm like, dude, my heart breaks for you. I'm like, I don't know how you're living in this crazy world, man, without faith.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Like if you're Muslim, you always have some faith and like some like assurance, salvation, sure. But to be not with Christ, I mean, that's why I'm on the mission I'm on. Like people need this. I need it. It's healed me. Yeah. So I want to read you this, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:31 This was November 1st of 2022. And this was actually the night that I was ready to take my own life. I prayed this prayer. And it's in my notes. And it says it was 1.21 a. So it was probably after like a Halloween party or something. Like November 1st 1 a.m. It says this.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It says, Allah, please save me. Why is my mind letting me down? I'm so numb and I don't care about myself. Why can I not get my mind right? Every day is so painful. Every moment is so harsh. I can't relax anymore. I can't see clearly anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I can't enjoy the smallest things anymore. Why have I done this to myself? Please help. And that was the night I was most suicidal after leaving Islam two years prior and I hadn't let Christ in my life yet. And what did I do in that night? I reverted to Islam
Starting point is 00:30:16 because I didn't know Christ yet. So in my darkest pit of hell moment where my brain hurts and dude I had like 40K of personal debt because I wasn't letting my family support me because it came with all these like just be Muslim and will give you money kind of like a subconscious deal there.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And I wanted to start a business because I realized I couldn't rely on my family anymore. That business was like, I made like five figures my first month. And then I made like negative three grand the next like seven months. And so I was like in 40K of personal debt. I had the banks calling me from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. every single day. I was waking up at 8 p.m. like taking an Adderall and like going to the gym at 3 a.m. And then like going to bed back at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Just so I can avoid the calls from the bank. They were calling me 40 times a day. And I had no answer for them. I was like, dude, I'm screwed. So you lose your identity, you lose your job because it's not enough for you and you lose everything, bro. And I became super suicidal. And in my lowest moment, I reverted to Islam. I said, Allah, you come save me.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And that was the night that I met Christ for the first time. Whoa. Yeah, bro. He got me. Oh, my gosh. What was that like? Okay. So I'm like, I'm in my high school bedroom now, which is like my parents, I love him so much for this.
Starting point is 00:31:24 They saw me struggling. They didn't agree with anything I did. They still gave me my room back because I was broke. But I didn't talk. them at all. But I'm in my high school bedroom and I'm sitting there and my head is pounding and I have horrible acne and like I'm just like I write that prayer on my phone. I just tossed it to the side and I pass out. Like I wasn't in a church. I didn't have a pastor. I didn't have anybody walking me through. It was me and God in my worst moment. And I have like this dream or this vision. I still can't like I don't
Starting point is 00:31:51 know what exactly it was but it was like a white flash that night. And I didn't hear like it wasn't like Christ like coming to me and like touching me but I just. the dream, like, I don't know if I really heard it in the dream or if it was after, but I hear the words when I wake up, it's in my soul. All I'm hearing on repeat is get up and go for you have been healed. Get up and go for you have been healed. Get up and go for you have been healed. And I only recognize those words from the gospels because my fraternity vice president was like shoving the gospel down my throat without my consent. Reading me the gospel out of Waterberger, discipling me. And I recognize, I'm like, those are Christ's words. That's not Allah. That's Christ. So this decision I made two years ago, I'm like, wait, Christ, Christ, Christ. Christ. Christ, Christ. And for the first time in my, in maybe three months, I was going to say my life, for the first time in three months, I jumped out of bed, happy. Wow. And that was the first time I felt Christ's grace on me. And I like, I hugged my mom super tight. She's like, what the F is wrong with you, bro? I don't want to curse. I'm trying to sanctify myself with that. The grass was greener. The breakfast tasted so good. The eggs that morning were delicious. The pool water was
Starting point is 00:32:53 great. I got 40K of debt. The bank calls me. I pick up. I'm like, let's fix this thing. And then the next four months, I'm not saying prosperity gospel, but like doors open for me that I couldn't have opened myself. And I clue the debt in like four months, my business just takes off. I'm running like a marketing agency at the time. And like all of a sudden, in four months, I'm sitting in my new Dallas apartment and my life is completely different. And it was, and I gave all the glory to Christ the whole way through. Now in that dark moment before having this dream, did you ever consider becoming an atheist after leaving Islam? I couldn't. I couldn't. Um, I, I couldn't. Um, I, I would study a lot of atheist arguments against Christianity. And I would look at like, their highest
Starting point is 00:33:33 level of argument as an atheist was we're pretty much all, we all have subjective morality, and there's really no purpose to this life. And we're just essentially bags of meat and bone with no soul. And we should just kill ourselves now. Because like, who cares? Like we're dead in 20 years or 80 years. What's the difference if the timeline so big? So atheism to me was like radical. I was agnostic. And I think I would have lived that life a lot easier, like how it's kind of wait and see. Yeah. But it still wasn't enough. So what did those next, few years look like after having this dream, getting like out of like these physical situations, getting out of your parents' home, who you, they're Muslim, you're following Jesus, you get out
Starting point is 00:34:11 of debt, your business, you're in the new apartment. What do those next few years look like? Yeah. Well, I want to show one more quick story with you because I actually haven't shared this publicly. The next week was my friend's birthday. And we had this trip to Brazil plan that I couldn't afford. But for some reason, I'm like, the Lord is like, I really feel like I need to go to Brazil. like I've been in my house for so long. My mom comes in my room and gives me, it's a thing in Muslim culture. You give your mom your first paycheck as like a blessing.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like I'm giving this to you so that I'll never have to worry about financials ever again. My mom knocks on my door and says, hey, I really feel like I need to give you this paycheck back. And I gave it to her three years prior. And it's $3,100. And it's like the exact amount I need to get to Brazil and like go through my buddies. My buddies are going to help me out too.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So I go to Brazil, which is crazy to do with like your last dollars being $4K in debt. And we're like, we need to go see this Christ the Redeemer statue. And there was a storm that day, and our plan got canceled. And I told my friends, I was like, guys, we need to go see this Christ statue no matter what. Like, I have to see it. Like, the Lord was pulling me into that. I don't know why. We get on the last bus, the storm stops for like 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And we get on this last bus up the mountain of the Christ statue in Rio. And there's nobody there, which, like, if you know that statue, there's like... Tons of people. Tons of people. Statute, like thousands of tourists. It's a wonder of the world. It's a wonder of the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And I am there alone with like three of my buddies looking at this. Christ the Redeemer statue. And I look out to Brazil and I see him. And that was a week after I was suicidal. And I said, like, this is the Christ. The Christ made this world and he's blessed in this country and like the millions of people in Rio look to him every day. And I'm like, that was my physical encounter.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And I was walking towards it for like some B roll like footage. Yeah. My arm started raising and I couldn't help it. I was like, the Lord is so good. Wow. And that's when I went all in. Wow. So, yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I mean, that statue is beautiful. It was the most mesmerizing thing I've seen in my entire life. I've never seen it in person. but I've seen just tons of videos and pictures. Like it looks. It's beautiful, bro. You got to go. So after that moment, you kind of went on these years of, yeah, what did that moment look like after?
Starting point is 00:36:08 So two main events happened after that. And then I'll kind of land the plane, okay? So I'm just a good boy, khaki pant wearing Christian for the next two years. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to learn this thing. I'm going to get plugged in. I'm going to start studying the word. I got my own Bible.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I started reading it. I started getting slowly sanctified out of my sexual sin, my alcohol, my Adderall addiction. All of it gets like ripped out of me. and the Lord, it was a very muddy and bloody process, but it's still happening today. But all my sins starts, like, falling off of my soul. And I'm like, Christ is so good. But I'm really quiet about it.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And in February of 2024 was the first time that I went to, like, a prayer retreat. And I was with, like, eight of my buddies, and the suicidal thoughts start creeping back into my life. And I'm not okay with that. And so I'm in this house with, like, ten of my buddies, and my buddy lays hands on me, and he's like, do I need to pray for you. And I'm, like, a really skeptical, like, logical guy. I need good reasons for the things I believe in.
Starting point is 00:36:59 For the first time of my life, I'm thrown down to the floor in prayer, and I'm like, what's going on? I feel like 10,000 pounds were on my shoulder, and my buddy's praying over me. He's like praying in tongues. I don't even know what that is. And he's like prophesying or something.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And I just felt this weight come off my soul. And like that was when I believe fully the spirit of suicide was ripped out of me. And that's when I got born again. Now I'm like radical. Now I'm like, this Christ thing is what I'm willing to die for. And for the next year, until April of 2025, and I'll time stamp it here, April of 2025, good boy Christian out of the way.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I'm this ex-Muslim guy, but I'm not telling people about it. I know so much about this stuff, but I'm not sharing it. My parents go to Mecca. Okay, my mom and dad do the Saudi Arabian pilgrimage. That's the fifth pillar of Islam, that if you're able to do it, you should go. And it was the Umbra, not technically the Hodge. It was a different time frame. But they go to UMRA, and my heart shatters, shatters.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I get this conviction. I'm like, my family. is spending their life trying so hard to get to know God. And they think that going to the Kaaba in Saudi Arabia is the most effective way to do so that's going to cleanse their sins, that's going to atone for them. And all the Islamic theology is,
Starting point is 00:38:10 what the Kaaba is, which we'll dive into, that shattered my heart, bro. And on April 16th, I picked him up from the airport. I looked at my mom. And she's, I'm like, how was it? Like, tell me how it is. And she was describing her experience to me. And the same spiritual death that I saw in my eyes,
Starting point is 00:38:27 when I was suicidal, I saw, I was looking in my rearview mirror, and I saw it in my mom's eyes. And I'm like, no. I'm like, dude, Satan is so deep in my family right now that if I'm a Christian, I believe Satan is so deep in my family, and that is the most unacceptable thing. I repented that day so hard. And I said, Lord, if this is in your will,
Starting point is 00:38:48 put me in the body of Christ that's responsible for ending anything that's not of you. I don't even care what it is. Two days later, bro, I launched, my first testimony video on YouTube. That was April 18th, 2025. It was Good Friday, actually. Wow. And it just exploded.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And the whole ministry, who I am today, the brand, all that's really cool. It started on that moment. Wow. And I haven't gotten off that wave since. And now here we are. And you're training. Dude, I think, and it's definitely grown more. I think when I joined the school, there was like, what, 12,000 people in this,
Starting point is 00:39:20 like school getting trained on Islam for free. And I will say this, dude, the amount of, of resources that are in that thing is unreal. It is unreal. Like actually insane the amount of resources. I've joined like courses of different things before. Never been in a course that has the amount of resources that y'all do.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Dude, it's so important. Genuinely honor you guys and everything that you guys are true. We have I think 15,000 people in over 100 different countries. There's like a little map section you can click on. The map is crazy. You guys have anyone in the Middle East? Tons. How the heck are they doing that without getting
Starting point is 00:39:57 caught. They signed up with a fake alias. They're VPNed in. I have like a whole brief on it. We're banned in, I think, uh, what? We're banned in China, Russia. We're banned in a lot of Saudi Arabia. We're banned in Iran. Like, you can't even access school ever because I think because of that. It's pretty crazy. They blocked the whole URL. That is crazy. Isn't that crazy, right? Dude, that's actually insane. Oh my goodness. Yeah, dude. And so I kind of want to like set you up to start talking. And then I'm going to start asking a bunch of questions about Islam. But, um, dude, the reason why I think this is so fun. which by the way like dude thank you yeah he gave me a Quran that's like color-coded with a
Starting point is 00:40:32 talking points so yeah so i used to build a relationship with this this uh mosque in california uh i had been a few times with my buddy david and a few friends and we would literally go and we would sit in the service and i've got to be careful i'm trying to just be like honest when i say this so like i don't mean this in a disrespectful way but we sat in for a service where they would teach, like the Imam would teach these congregates coming and we're sitting in there. And when they're praying the prayers, the Arabic sounds seductive. Like it sounds like a tempterist trying to get you to go back with her. It sounds so seductive. Then afterwards, we'd sit down and they would order us pizza. And we would sit on the floor and eat pizza. Yeah. And then we would like talk to them and ask
Starting point is 00:41:26 questions and they gave us like literally a paperback version of this Quran somewhat like it and uh on the inside cover it was like a broad manual on how to evangelize as a Muslim like a very broad either on the front cover or the back cover I can't remember but it was like a you know give people to Quran show me verses like that kind of thing it was very broad very brief but um so this is like so so fascinating yeah and I'm I'm so punch But before we get into specific stuff, and you kind of teach me this, explain what the master key is that you created. I would love to.
Starting point is 00:42:03 So I actually didn't find it. I'm actually a champion of it. The master key was developed by a guy named Alex Krimly, who's like an ex-KJB border troop guy from Azerbaijan, who moved to Toronto and ran it on the streets of Toronto. He read the Quran trying to find like jihad and war and kill the infidel stuff, and he found something 500 times better, the stories of the prophets. that it's a miracle in Islam that Muhammad is able to, despite being unlettered,
Starting point is 00:42:29 which is just unable to read and write, that he memorized and had Allah reciting through him every single story of the prophets, word for word, perfectly in detail as it should have been from the beginning of time. That's the miracle of the Quran and the miracle of Muhammad. Every single story is completely different, completely wrong. So he finds that, and he's like, hold on,
Starting point is 00:42:50 and he's reading it, and there's about 1,200 verses in the Quran, of stories of the prophets from specifically the Old Testament, just the Torah. I'll tell you why that's important in a second. And what we're seeing is, how do this change? So the master key, developed on the streets of Toronto by Alex Krimley, made into an elite polemic, an aggressive attack and apologist argument. It's a system.
Starting point is 00:43:10 It's not an argument. It's not an argument that you run once. It's a system that breaks Muslims out of Islam and leads them right to Christ. It doesn't use any morals, doesn't use any ethics, doesn't use any politics, none of it. The fastest way to piss off a Muslim is by talking about those three things with them. All the aggression online towards all the apologists. I don't get any of that because I know how to respectfully engage with Muslims
Starting point is 00:43:31 in a hyper-effective way because of the master key. I didn't make it though. Greg Armstrong, pastor of Toronto, takes this what Alex did and made it easy to communicate to the masses. And he started pressing on one thing. The master key, really important for you to know,
Starting point is 00:43:48 the master key is a really fancy way of handling one specific claim, which scriptures from God. All our theology, all of Jesus is just a prophet, all of Tahit versus Talhid versus VIII, blood atonement, substitutionary atonement, secondary atonement. Secondary arguments, doesn't matter. What's the angel, what's the Torah? The only thing that matters ever with engaging Muslims is which scriptures from God.
Starting point is 00:44:13 We get all of our theology, all of our beliefs, all of our practices from the Bible, because we believe that's God's scripture. So you can cut 99% of these really, honestly, in my opinion, hard to listen to, like, headache debates online. If we just focus on one thing, which is which scriptures from God, and the master key is surgically made to handle one claim, which is, was the Torah corrupted? Is the Torah, the first five books of our Bible,
Starting point is 00:44:37 is that specifically corrupted in a way that the Quran claims that it is? Because the Quran's theology is completely different than the Torah's theology. And that's the only thing we focus on, and that has been so effective. I mean, the videos are so encouraging online. You guys hammering in these arguments on it. So I would love for you to walk me through it as if I'm a Muslim. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I would love to, bro. Okay. This is going to get good. The reason I really love this is because even when I converted, I had no idea how to disciple my mom and dad into Christ. They would slaughter every argument I used. When I learned this, the conversations, the relationship, the love, the shaking my hand and thanking me, just about me deconstructing their religion has changed my life. And I have so many Muslim friends now and my family.
Starting point is 00:45:25 our relationship has been amazing because I actually understand them really well now. Wow. Okay. So the master key, what is it? It's an Old Testament approach. The key thing we say is we say make Torah great again. We have it on some red hats. It's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Wait, that's funny? Yeah. Everyone's like, what is that? Trust us. It's how you win Muslims to Christ. And aside note of that, we'll come back to it. The same way that you evangelize Muslims is actually how you evangelize rabbinical Jews. So the master key handles both.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Wow. Because we're using the Torah to show Christ. And probably the Israelites to Hebrew, Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. It's everybody actually. Wow, that's amazing. The Mormons too, actually. It's pretty funny. So this is like a catch-all, okay? So what is it? There's three steps. The first thing we need to do is deconstruct the authority of the Quran. Okay, so I say this. Muslims are walking around the world like this. The Quran is God's infallible, inerrant word. It's truth at its highest form. Everything that they look at in the world is through the lens of this Quran. Okay. So if we get this out of the way, and I'll give you a very clear example what happens if you tell Jesus sorry tell him most of them that Jesus loves them they're like well he's we love them too
Starting point is 00:46:32 he's just a prophet or your Bible's corrupted because our Quran says so they believe the Quran this is their highest authority whether they know it in lie or whether they know it or not in their lives this is everything they follow we get this out of the way now we preach a gospel yeah okay Matthew 7 6 says Matthew 7 6 that's crazy
Starting point is 00:46:51 animated Matthew 7 6 says do not cast your pearl before swine unless they be trampled. That's the equivalent of throwing the precious gospel at a Muslim who still believes this is true. So we have to hammer this. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:04 So first step, deconstruct the Quran. Don't talk about theology. Don't talk about the Trinity. I don't even talk about Jesus yet until this thing's out of the way fully. It's very counterintuitive because we want to preach Jesus. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Wow. And I'm going for the most about Muslims. I'm going for something that the sheikhs and the imams cannot answer. So my thing is if I had a good argument from a Christian, I would go to my imam and he would crush it in a second. they can't do it with this. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'll show you why. Okay. So only after we've deconstructed the Quran, then we can reconstruct using the Torah. Okay? So we only use the Torah to deconstruct the Quran. And because we did that, replaced now the Quran with now the Torah.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Now that's their truth. They believe in the Torah as the Word of God because it deconstructs the Quran. Okay. Now we use the Torah to lay the foundation, the prologamana is the fun word there, the foundations of why we even believe in Christ as a man,
Starting point is 00:47:54 God saving Messiah in the first place, right? Because we're the only people who do that. It's all witnessed in the Torah. And then only after we've laid the foundations in the Torah, which we'll get to, do we preach the gospel to a Muslim? Now it makes sense. Now it lands like butter. Now they come to Christ radically, intensively. And those Muslims in our ministry that have come to Christ were more knowledgeable than I've ever been, and they're more on fire than I am. Because they see this and they've been disciples correctly. And it happens in like two meetings. No more four-year relationships. No more traveling in other countries. Two meetings. One meeting, Sometimes. And I'll show you that today. You ready? Well, I'm ready. Let's rid, bro. Okay. Let's get it. Okay. So more
Starting point is 00:48:31 foundational ideology is if you're deconstructing a worldview, a Muslim world view, there's foundations of every worldview. If somebody is pro-abortion, for example, they have a set of beliefs that you have to handle first that are the reason why they believe in what they do. So for Islam, we call it the real five pillars of Islam, okay? Five beliefs that every Muslim has, that whether they know it or not is the foundation of their faith, okay? The first belief, they believe that our Torah is corrupted. Yeah. We're going to talk about
Starting point is 00:49:01 how we handle that. We're going to talk about why the Islamic dilemma isn't effective in handling that. We're going to say what the Quran actually says about that. Okay?
Starting point is 00:49:08 The second belief, we're going to talk about they believe that the Quran, this scripture was written by the same God that wrote the Torah, the message to Jesus, the angel, and the Zvore
Starting point is 00:49:20 the Psalms. It's the same God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob all the way through. All Muslims believe that it's the same continuation. The third belief all Muslims have,
Starting point is 00:49:29 is that Abraham and Ishmael actually traveled down to Mecca to build the Kaaba, to restore the Kaaba, really? Yeah. Okay? If you're engaging a Muslim, you have to engage the Kaaba. There's so much history and reverence around it. If you get rid of the Kaaba in a Muslim's mind, they can't be Muslim period. Okay? The fourth belief that a Muslim has is that Muhammad was actually an Ishmaelite.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Okay? Yeah. What you might have heard preached at churches, that actually blasphemed the Torah completely in so many ways. You'll hear that there's three Abraham religions, maybe four if the Mormons are included. and that is a lie. Like we're agreeing with the enemy on that. There's one Abrahamic religion and it's fulfilled in the Jewish Messiah, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Okay? So I heard this before. There's three Abrahamic religions. There are cousins in the Abrahamic faith. Muhammad is not related to Ishmael according to our Torah. Okay? And they'll try to prove that too.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I'll show you in a sec. The fifth pillar is that Muhammad received revelation in the same way that Moses did. It's actually the story in Sahi Bukari number three. That's the one hadithing you need to know. You need to know two Hadith, and I'll tell you both of them this time. Sahibokari 3 is the story of Muhammad receiving the revelation in the cave, right?
Starting point is 00:50:35 The Waraka, the Christian who would write Hebrew scripture, actually said that story is similar to the angel that revealed it to Moses as well. So we can dive into that story as well. Now the key with the master key, those are the five pillars, okay, to recap. Taurus is corrupted. The god of the Quran is also the god of the Bible. Muhammad is an Ishmaelite. Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba, and Muhammad is actually patterned. in the same way as previous prophets.
Starting point is 00:50:59 We're going to provide an overwhelming amount of evidence for all five of those pillars using just Old Testament stories to show you how crazy all five of those claims are. Wow. Okay? And the best part is no morals, no ethics, no politics. Okay?
Starting point is 00:51:14 So the first thing, let's talk about what the Quran actually says about the Torah. And I get a lot of hate for this, but I have good reasons why. I am not an Islamic dilemma guy. I've tried it on Muslims. It's pretty ineffective, in my opinion. I know there's a lot of scholarship behind it.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I want to be really clear. I love what the guys are doing with it. I think it's so important to talk about Islam. There's things in it that I've seen Muslims never concede. First of all, the Ingeal. Muslims will never concede that the Ingeal is the New Testament. Why? The Ingeal has the same standard as the Quran and the Torah,
Starting point is 00:51:45 where it has to be given directly as revelation to that prophet. So the Ingeal would be a revelation given directly to Jesus Christ himself, written in his own language or oral. It can be an oral revelation too. And it has to be completed in his lifetime. That's the revelation standard in Islam. We have that with Muhammad and Moses. We don't have that with Jesus.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So any argument that uses the Ingeal, it's heavily theological-based. I don't argue theology with Muslims, just scripture relevancy. They're going to go for miles around it. So I would try Engiel arguments with Muslims and they'd be like, well, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were not prophets. The teachings and discipleship of Jesus was not the Engeal.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Some really witty Muslims, if you're asking what the angel is, just hand you the Quran and say it's whatever is consistent with this. And then they'll be like, well, which gospel are you following? Because there's actually 30 to 40 different gospel accounts that are historically written in by the third century. Right? Like there's Matthew Mark, Luke and John, but then I actually have a list here. There's like Gnostic Gospels that we don't hold to. Nostism and exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still baby Christian. So I'm not have to memorize, right? I'm still new to the game here. But the gospel of Hebrews, Egyptians, the Ebunites, Ebyonites.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I probably got that wrong. The gospel of Thomas Peter, Philip, the gospel of truth, the gospel of Judah, the infancy gospel of James, the infancy gospel of Thomas, the gospel of Mary, the gospel of the Savior, and then the Nasa Gospels. So the Muslims are going to be like, well, which gospel are you using?
Starting point is 00:53:04 Don't even touch it. You can argue it. There's a lot of great arguments for it. Don't waste your time, is what I'm saying. The Torah. The Torah is the moneymaker, okay? Okay, let's step into it. So a few things.
Starting point is 00:53:14 What does the Quran say about the Torah? Okay? I'm going to go to Surah 7, verse 157, and we need to understand charitably what it says because the Quran does not give full confirmation of the Torah. It doesn't give general confirmation of the Torah. It gives
Starting point is 00:53:29 specifically three different confirmations of the Torah. Okay? The acronym is PLS. Okay. Prophets of Muhammad, the law code, and then stories of the prophets. That's it. That's the only thing the Quran will say confirmed is confirmed the Torah. So any general argument of confirmation does not work. Okay. Sur 7 verse 157. Prophet Muhammad in the Bible. It's highlighted for you too, by the way. Thank you. Dude, you're going to take this thing, and I want you to run 10 times harder than anybody else ever has, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Oh, well, thank you. I appreciate it. I love you, bro, yeah. I love you, man. Let's have into it. It says this, they're the ones who follow the messenger, the unlettered prophet,
Starting point is 00:54:08 whose description they find in their Torah. Okay? So saying that Prophet Muhammad is in the Torah, they are the ones who follow the messenger. So these are the Jewish converts who follow the messenger, Muhammad. So these are the Jewish converts who convert to Islam in the 7th century
Starting point is 00:54:23 because Muhammad is in the 7th century. following him, okay? So now we have seventh century Jews who are converting to Islam, and they're saying, hey, we're actually finding Muhammad in your Torah. So when I share us with the Muslim, I'm like, okay, do you believe that praises of Muhammad or in the Torah? Like, yeah, totally, cool. Surah 48, and I forget the reference, but I have it tabbed here. Yeah, Surah 48, verse 29. It says that believer's description in the Torah and the gospel, okay? But focusing on just on Torah here. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah and those with him are
Starting point is 00:54:54 firm with the disbelievers and compassionate with one another. You see them bowing and prostrating that's head down in prayer seeking Allah's bounty and pleasure. The sign of brightness can be seen on their faces from the trace of prostrating in prayer. This is their description in the Torah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 What's happening here? Muhammad actually has a letter written on his behalf to the Jews in a city called Chai Bar. And Chai Bar is is like the third really important city. There's Mecca, there's Medina, and there's Kaibar. Muhammad actually has a letter sent out to Kaibar
Starting point is 00:55:27 where he's saying, hey, this exact verse is going to be in your Torah, word for word, and if you don't see it in your Torah, then you have no compulsion to follow me. And the exact verse is, Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are firm with his believers, and they're compassionate with one another.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You see them bowing and prostrating in prayer, seeking Allah's bounty and pleasure. The sign of brightness can be seen on their faces from the trace of prostrating. And in Islam, the savage Muslims would always have a little, like, a dent right here, like a mark because they're so devout in their prayer that they'd have like a dent in their forehead. It was like a sign of like a leapness. So the Quran is saying that that verse should be appearing. Muhammad said it.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Muhammad word for word said that that verse right there should appear in the Torah. He wrote a letter. Yes, I had that. Or he had a letter written on his behalf that he verified to the Jews and Kbar saying, this is in your Torah. And if it's not in there, don't follow me. He's like testing them because it's obviously in there. Okay. So the key thing here is that now we have a.
Starting point is 00:56:18 seventh century Torah that the Quran verifies and Muhammad verifies that only has Prophases of Muhammad in it. Nothing else so far. Okay? So we have prophecies of Muhammad in the Torah. Every Muslim will be like, okay, sure. Let's go to Sur 5 verse 43 to 48. And this is a quick one.
Starting point is 00:56:39 If I can get there fast enough. You know, I use the tab and I'm even using myself. There we go. Yeah, you just got to get there. Yeah, we'll get there, bro. I trust, man. Okay. Let's read 543 to 40. I do through the whole thing. So this is true to Al-Mayda, okay, and it's saying this,
Starting point is 00:56:56 but why do they come to you for judgment, Muhammad, when they already have the Torah containing Allah's judgment, and then they turn away after all. They're not true believers. And the context of this is that some Jews come to Muhammad with, there's one Jew who's being accused of adultery, and he's got a blackened face, and they're testing Muhammad. It's in Sahi Muslim 1700A, that's the Hadith.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And they're testing Muhammad, and they're saying, hey, if you're a prophet, you would know the judgment for adultery is stoning. And they're testing him. They're saying, like, hey, is it black in face? And Muhammad says, well, Allah recites through Muhammad is what Muslims will believe. Allah is saying, to you Jews, why are you coming to Muhammad for judgment when you already have your Torah? Go check that.
Starting point is 00:57:31 The judgment is in there. So it's not verifying the whole Torah. It's saying that the law code, the judgment, the Ten Commandments, if you will, are in the Torah. That's it. Nothing else. Not general confirmation, nothing else. So we have a story now.
Starting point is 00:57:44 We have prophets and Muhammad. We have the law code. What's the next thing that the Torah confirmed? stories of the prophets. This is, Bryce, this is the most misused verse in all of Christian and Islamic apologetics, okay? Suror 1094. It says, if you, O prophet, are in doubt
Starting point is 00:58:00 about these stories that we revealed to you, then ask those who read the scripture before you. We need to understand this verse at a very high level, okay? So 10 verses later, in Surah 10 verse 104, it says, say, O prophet, humanity. If you're in doubt of my faith, know that I do not worship these idols that you worship instead of Allah. So when it's saying, if you, O Prophet, are in doubt about these stories, Muhammad is not in doubt. Christians will say,
Starting point is 00:58:26 oh, Muhammad's in doubt and just go read the stories. No, he's not in doubt. He's saying, if you people listening to me are in doubt, go check the scriptures before you. What scriptures is he talking about, though? The previous 21 verses from 1073 to 1093 are about messengers after Noah, Moses and Aaron, Pharaoh, settling the children of Israel in a land, which we'll get to. That's a really funny one. And that's it. Yeah. Where are those stories found?
Starting point is 00:58:56 Where is Moses and Aaron found? Noah found all these people. What scripture are they found in? The Torah. Got it. Yeah. 90% of the answer is going to be Torah, by the way. So it's not all the stories. It's just those specific stories in the Torah. Okay?
Starting point is 00:59:11 So that's the only thing we can press. us Muslims on. Okay, so we're sharing us with Muslims and we're not going to die on the hill of complete confirmation, but we'll start sharing some stories. So Bryce, what I'll say to a Muslim is, well, can I start sharing some stories of the prophets with you, all right? And I'm going to read you, let's read like five. And I want you to tell me what stands out to you about these stories, right? You ready? Okay. You're going to love this. If you're a pastor, evangelist, this is why I think the church has the authority to handle Islam and nobody else, because this is how you actually win them over to Christ. This is the story of Moses.
Starting point is 00:59:42 getting married at the well of Midian, okay? So we have it in Exodus too. This is what it says in the Quran. This is Surah 28 versus 23 to 29. And I'm actually going to start at 26 just for time here, okay? One of the two daughters suggested, oh, my dear father,
Starting point is 00:59:56 hire Moses. A strong, trustworthy person is definitely the best to hire. The old man proposed, I wish to marry one of these two daughters of mine to you, provided that you stay in my service for eight years. If you complete 10, it'll be a favor from you. But I do not wish to make a difficult for you. Allah willing, you will
Starting point is 01:00:12 me an agreeable man. Moses responded. It settled between you and I, whichever term I fulfill, there'll be no further obligation on me. When Moses had completed the term and was traveling with his family, he spotted a fire on the side of Mount to Earth. That's the burning bush. What stood out to you, bro? Well, that he spotted it with his family, but who was he with in Exodus? That's one of the four details. He's with his daughters. He's, so he, he's, so he, he, he married Zaporah. He's actually with Jethro's flock. So we've with the sheep. We have a joke in the ministry. He's hanging out with sheep. Okay. Who was the Israelite in the Old Testament who had two daughters that we had to serve two service terms for it to marry? Yeah, it's, it's Jacob.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Got it. Who are the two daughters? A Rachel. Yeah. And, uh, I'm forgetting the other one. You know, Leia. Leia. They're Laban's daughters. Super niche Bible question. If you get this, bro, I'll buy 200 cans of this right now. Put it on camera. How many daughters did Jethro have? 12. Seven. I just had to shoot.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I didn't shoot. No, it's a one word in the most niche line of scripture. You never catch it twice if you read it. So Moses' story gets conflated with Jacob's story. Why? What happened? Because, well, Muhammad's illiterate according to... Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah, he couldn't read the scriptures. Sure. Yeah. I have another theory that I'll give you at the end of this because I want to build towards that theory. That's one theory that he just heard all the stories wrong. I think that's a crazy story to hear wrong. I think this Torah is so clear on that.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Also, Genesis 30, Jacob says, I have completed my term. Now give me my wives of children and send me on my way. So now even Moses being with his family after completing the term, which the Quran says, that's Jacob's story. The whole thing, it's twisted completely. And even Islamic scholars will say that Moses was the one
Starting point is 01:02:08 who moved the rock at the well, which was Jacob's thing. okay so these stories are being told to him wrong on accident or on purpose let's figure out okay let me read you one more story on purpose you're ready for you oh yeah that's I'll give a little teaser but that's a very strong claim and that's something that could
Starting point is 01:02:26 lead a lot of Muslims to Christ if we build it right and we articulate it right I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I'll build the theory for you and I think you'll be convinced of it okay this is surer 2 this is a verse let's do uh 249 to 251, okay? This is Saul, Saul, David and Goliath.
Starting point is 01:02:46 When Saul marched forth with his army, he cautioned, Allah will test you with a river. So whoever drinks his fill from it is not with me, except whoever does not taste it, except a sip from the hollow of his hands, is definitely with me. They all drink their fill except for a few. When he and the remaining faithful with him cross the river, they said, now we are no match for Goliath and his warriors.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But those believers who were certain they would meet Allah reasoned, how many times has a small force vanquished a mighty army by the will of God? And Allah is always with the steadfast. When they advanced to face Goliath and his warriors, they prayed, our Lord, shower us with perseverance, make our steps firm, and give us victory over the disbelieving people. So they defeated them by Allah's will. And then David killed Goliath.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And Allah blessed David with kingship and wisdom and taught him what he will. Okay. By the way, this is like, I got this murdered out for you, bro. So you can track a lot. Hey, thank you. Yeah, I got you, bro. Okay. Did anything stand out to you in?
Starting point is 01:03:41 that story. Well, I want you to explain because it, the beginning sounded weird. It's familiar. Okay. Who was the Israelite judge who tested his army with the river? He had 30,000 and then it shrunk to three. Yeah, 300. Yeah. Yeah. Who is that? I'm blanking. Judges seven versus four, seven, it's Gideon's river test. That's the story of a river test where a small army conquers by God's will and God's will alone. Saul? That was King Saul. That's 150 years before King Saul. And then also, the order on this, I will steal me on this. It is debated if they say it after.
Starting point is 01:04:14 But was Saul's army strong and perseverant when they fought Goliath and they beat Goliath's army? I don't think so. Dude, no. In 1st Samuel, dude, Saul's army was in witness protection mode. They were so scared of Goliath.
Starting point is 01:04:27 They were hiding in caves and tents and crevices and they were waiting for a champion to show up to fight Goliath and nobody fought him. And they were mocked and taunted for like the whole beginning before David came in. Okay? And then did David immediately get blessed with kingship? No, not immediately.
Starting point is 01:04:43 No, there was the persecution. I think it was 15 years that he was in hiding. Yeah. Being chased by Saul. This whole story, they condense three centuries into like two verses. And they get the order wrong and they get all the details wrong. The details are what the moneymaker is. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I'm going to give you a seed right now. And by the way, to you and everyone watching, I hope this overwhelms you. Because that's what it takes to lead a Muslim of Christ. Yeah, it's definitely a lot of information, like sitting here trying to understand it, but it's good. It's like... Yeah. You hear it and then it'll click. I mean, with the master key, you got to just drill it.
Starting point is 01:05:18 But once it becomes, once you click it and it gets it, you'll never forget it. And then you read the Quran and you'll be like, this is everywhere. Okay. Let's go to another story. Let's go to Surah 28, verse 9. So a question for you, Bryce. Who adopted, who adopted Pharaoh? Sorry, who adopted Moses?
Starting point is 01:05:35 Well, it was Pharaoh's wife. him floating in the river? Was it the wife? It was the daughter. Okay. If you get wife, it's actually, you might have watched Prince of Egypt.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Did you watch that movie? Yeah, I like Prince of Egypt. Yeah, Prince of Egypt is good. They have Pharaoh's wife adopting her. Adopting him. The Quran says this. Pharaoh's wife said to him, this baby is a source of joy for me and you.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Do not kill him. For we may be useful to us, or we may adopt him as a son. And they were unaware of what was to come. In the Dead Sea Scrolls and in the Torah and in the Exodus account, every account we have, it was Pharaoh's daughter.
Starting point is 01:06:09 It's mentioned six times the Dead Sea Scrolls actually in manuscript that we have. Pharaoh's wife, detail change. Why? So let me walk you through a really advanced concept called pressing the differences.
Starting point is 01:06:23 A Muslim is going to say this and be like, who cares, dude? Like your Bible's so corrupted. This is the final version. This is the updated iPhone. Whatever you want to call it. That's what the Quran is. I say that's a claim.
Starting point is 01:06:32 You're making that claim. How do we test that claim? There's two types of scripture corruption. There's intentional corruption where somebody is going back consciously and screwing with the scriptures to hide something. Yeah. And then there's unintentional corruption, which is a pen slip, a scribal error. Yeah. We see it in our biblical manuscripts all the time. You know, it doesn't change anything. It's like 22 becomes 42. Like which manuscript do we believe? Yeah. It's an accidental error. Okay. These are not accidental errors. You can't
Starting point is 01:07:02 fake your way into a completely cohesive. Like you can't pen slip your way into a totally cohesive story with all this stuff. So what I do with Muslims is we're going to say, okay, intentional corruption, unintentional corruption. For intentional corruption, you need to have a motive. Why would somebody want to go back to the Torah and corrupt it
Starting point is 01:07:23 in this way? This is the key of the master key. There's four motives we got, okay? To hide a prophecy of Muhammad, to change theology, to hide the cross or to get rid of the Trinity, whatever. There's ethical concerns, which is like to change the Ten Command to make themselves look good or political concerns. So the analogy is pipette, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Prophases of Muhammad, political, ethical, theological, pipet. Okay, I'll have analogy. A PLS for the Torah, which is Prophsons of Muhammad law code and stories. That's the only thing it verifies, and then pipet. P-pet, let's give an example of what it means to test the details. And as I give you these, like, different stories, just know that a Muslim's going to be like, your Bible's corrupt and your Bible's corrupt. I'm like, hey, specifically, this is how you're saying it was corrupted.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Like, you're saying that, you know, it was corrupted by we made up Jacob's story. We made up Moses's story. We made up Saul story. We made up Gideon story and judges. Like, it starts to build this cumulative claim of what you're claiming is thousands of corruption claims that don't make any sense. From thousands of years of Abrahamic religion history. Exactly. The corroboration for all this stuff is insane, bro.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Okay. So let's do this. let's talk about one of the details, okay? Moses, Jethro having seven daughters versus two daughters in the Quran, okay? Well, the question you'd ask is, why would the Jews corrupt that from, if what the Quran says was true from the beginning of time, a Jew would need a motive to go back to the scripture and change it. So what's the motive?
Starting point is 01:08:55 My Muslim friends, I'm like, hey, like, you add any motives if you want. But here's one motive. Prophs of Muhammad, Pipet, okay? Are there any prophets of Muhammad in Jethro having daughters? Like, does that have anything to do with prophets as Muhammad? Not that I would think. No, it's a story. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Political motives. Is there like a land change or like the Kaba being in Mecca or any like political reason why changing seven to two would happen? I mean, not that I know. I couldn't think of one even if I tried. I'm like, you'll be surprised. I'll do this for 2,000 details in a row if I have to. ethical motives does changing seven daughters to two does that change your stance on abortion or premarital sex or the Ten Commandments or anything not not that i can no it's just it's a story it's a
Starting point is 01:09:44 random story you tell okay and then theological motive does changing seven daughters to two does that change your thoughts on the trinity or like atonement or like original sin or any of that stuff not that i can think of no i can't think of anything either bro so my lovely Muslim friend unless you explain to me why this happened. Why? What's the motive for somebody changing the scripture?
Starting point is 01:10:06 I can't believe that it's changed because it wasn't unintentional. For intentional it needs to have a motive and if there's no motive then it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So then the Torah's version is right. That's the original and the Quran's wrong. And I have to take the Torah's account. And I'll do that for every single detail.
Starting point is 01:10:24 You know, what's the motive for Moses being with his family at the burning bush versus not being with his family? No prophet to Muhammad, no political, no ethical, and no theological.
Starting point is 01:10:32 It's a story. Every single story that we're going to go through, you can kind of run that framework and think about it. It's like, none of this makes any sense. Okay? So, why are we using the stories? I'm going to kind of take one step back here, okay?
Starting point is 01:10:46 What does the Quran say about Jesus? And this is probably the most important part, right? We always want to know what does Islam say about Christ, okay? Which they call him Issa. Issa. Yes, Issa. So Surah 4, verse 157, and we're going to come back to this.
Starting point is 01:11:00 It says, the Jews were boasting, or it says, and for boasting, sorry. We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. But they neither killed nor crucified him. It was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this crucifixion are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever. They're only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Rather, Allah raised him to himself. Okay. So whoever's writing this Quran is very, very anti-crucifixion resurrection. Jesus has nothing to do with that. Yeah. Just a messenger. Okay. Don't they believe in a substitute, like Allah substituted him?
Starting point is 01:11:34 That's like, yeah, that's the high-level theories. I've heard different theories. Like, they think it's like Judas or something like that. But there's no, in the Quran, there's no real like, this is who they put on the cross. Yeah, that's what I was taught. The whole point is that there's no resurrection. Jesus did not die. He's actually raised the right hand of the father too.
Starting point is 01:11:50 So a few verses later, verse, surer 4 verse 171 doubles down on like the anti-Jesus. It says, oh, people of the book, do not go to extremes regarding your. faith, say nothing about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfillment of his word through Mary and a spirit created by his command. Ready? So believe in Allah and his messengers. And do not say Trinity. Stop. Exclamation mark. Says that in the Quran. Stop. Do not say Trinity. For your own good. Allah is one God. Glory be to him. So whoever is writing this Quran, really anti-trinity, really anti-crucifixion. There's literally only one group I know in the world that has like that motive, and we'll come back to that, okay?
Starting point is 01:12:33 But think about that. So the reason we're doing the stories is because these stories in the Quran are about the prophets. And if we can't trust the Quran, then we have to go back to the real stories of the prophets, which all lead to Christ. So this is how we deconstruct the Quran. So we're pressing on differences. We're sharing stories with them. Okay? Let me share one more story with you.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And this is, well, there's actually five more stories that are all kill shots. And let's just go through him, bro. Cool. Let's do this thing. Let's do it. Okay. So what do Muslims believe about Adam and Eve? So what do you think is the biggest difference between Islam and Christianity?
Starting point is 01:13:10 I mean, Jesus, in my opinion. Yeah. It's actually a symptom. So the reason that we believe in a crucified, atoning Messiah is actually because of Genesis 3. It's actually the original story. He's the second Adam. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:13:23 So I always say with Muslims, hey, before you talk about Jesus, the second Adam, let's talk about the first Adam. because they actually rewrite the story of Adam as well. Whoa. Yeah, this is huge. And this is where the theology comes from. So the one thing you need to know about Islam for sure is this. So this change right here is a theological change.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Yes, exactly. So if I press the Muslim as to why this change happened, they'd be like for theological reasons obviously. Okay. The secret is that we take the most minute, silly, irrelevant details and we say, why would anybody corrupt that? Yeah. And then we show them how hard it is to corrupt that.
Starting point is 01:13:58 What would have to change if that was corrupted? It becomes a giant conspiracy theory. Wow. Yeah. So get this. And once again, surgically deep way to handle one claim. Was the Torah corrupted?
Starting point is 01:14:11 That's all we're doing. Yeah. Okay? We're showing them exactly what they're saying when they say the Torah is corrupted. I'm saying specifically, these are all the things in the Torah you say are corrupted by the Quran standard.
Starting point is 01:14:22 So this is the story of Adam and even the Quran. We caution, this is surer 2 verse 35 to 37 for you. you. We cautioned, oh, Adam, live with your wife in paradise and eat as freely as you please, but do not approach this tree or you'll be one of the wrongdoers. But Satan deceived him, leading to their fall from the blissful state they were in. And we said, descend from the heavens to the earth as enemies to each other. You will find in the earth a residence to stay and provision for your appointed stay. Then Adam was inspired with words of prayer by his lord,
Starting point is 01:14:52 and so he accepted his repentance. Okay. What's happening here? first of all, does that sound like the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible? Not even close, bro. What's happening here? The core of their theology is in these three verses. There is no penalty for sin of death. The fall of Adam and Eve happens in paradise. It happens in Juna in heaven.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Not on earth like it did in the Bible. So why would an earthly Messiah, a savior even make sense? And then what does Adam do to come clean before God? It says, Adam was inspired with words of prayer by his Lord, so Allah accepted his repentance. So in Islamic theology, Adam forgets the command,
Starting point is 01:15:34 wasn't born a sinner, just forgot the command and said, Allah, I'm really sorry, I repent, and that is it, and he's made clean. Repentance culture. Verbal atonement is what I call. It's what that's called. It's a rabbinical Jewish concept.
Starting point is 01:15:45 It's where they get that from. Okay. So now we have this beautiful story of Genesis 3 where God says, why are you hiding for me, my children? The penalty for sin is death. And then he's looking for them in the garden. They're hiding from him.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And they try to cover themselves with fig leaves. He says, that's not enough. And he covers them with garments of skin in Genesis. It's the first example. Like, how do you get garments of skin? You have to kill an animal. Yeah. So the first example of God,
Starting point is 01:16:12 killing an animal to cover his beloved children happens in Genesis 3. The whole story gets wiped in the Quran, the whole thing. Wow. So Christ never made sense from the beginning of time in Islam. They have to now make that make sense.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Okay? Whoa. And mind you, this comes, you know, 600 years after the crucifixion, right? Yeah. So what we're doing here, these two stories, the story of Christ and the Quran, and the story of Adam in the Quran,
Starting point is 01:16:36 are so theologically different. There's a heavy theological motive for corruption. Sure, I'll grant it to them. But if we can't trust the other stories, then we can't trust the Quran. And if we can't trust the Quran, then we cannot be Muslim. And if we cannot be Muslim,
Starting point is 01:16:49 and we use this, the real stories of the Bible, to show why, we need Christ, they come to Christ so fast. And it's not disrespectful at all. I love doing this because I'm just reading their own book with that. Like imagine if a Muslim came up to you, bro, and was like, dude, Bryce, let's read the Bible together. You'd be like, heck yeah, man, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I'll give you five hours right now. Same response. Okay. So this is, so pillar one was, is the Torah corrupted? Yeah. Prophases, PLS. Prophses of the Muhammad law code, stories of the prophets of the Torah specifically is really all we have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Okay, there's another story we have. How many? Ooh, that's a big one. Let's do this one. I'll do this one after we deconstruct. This is the kill shot. This is like actually the biggest issue with Islam. It's the story of the Passover.
Starting point is 01:17:34 And I'm going to dive into that really in depth with you. Okay. So before you do that, we have the story of Joseph. Okay. And a big thing in Islam is scholarly interpretation. So I'm going to read you the story of Joseph in the Quran. And it's actually prefaced. They have a whole chapter.
Starting point is 01:17:51 It's Surah 12. It's all you stuff in the Quran, okay? And Surat 12 verse 3 says this. We relate to you. Allah, I relate to you, Muhammad, the best of stories, Joseph, through this Quran. Though before this, you were totally unaware of it. Okay? So they're really doubling down.
Starting point is 01:18:07 It's a miracle in Islam that Muhammad can recite this whole story of Joseph, word for word, verbatim, and have it be exactly what happened in the Torah. The true account. Wow. Okay? It's a miracle that he can do that. And he goes on for 98 verses and just rips through the story of Joseph in one go. And then at Surah 12-11 at the very end,
Starting point is 01:18:25 Allah says, Muhammad says, whichever, you know, if you're Muslim or not, in these stories, in their story, sorry, there is truly a lesson for people of reason. This message, ready, this message of the Quran cannot be a fabrication, rather it's a confirmation of previous revelation, a detailed explanation of all things, a guide and a mercy of people of faith. So it's saying that this story of Joseph specifically
Starting point is 01:18:47 is a confirmation of previous revelation. Well, luckily, we have the thing. stories. Let's read it, bro. Okay. So I want to take you to a very specific part of the story of Joseph. This is the father being presented with the bloody robe. Okay. And I used to love this story, bro. That was like my favorite story when I was Muslim was the story of Joseph. Wow. And seeing it deconstructed is like heartbreaking, actually. So Stuart 12, verse 16 to 18, says this. They returned to their father in the evening weeping, the brothers. So the brothers returned to the father in the evening weeping. They cried, our father,
Starting point is 01:19:21 We went racing and left Joseph with our belongings and a wolf devoured him, but you're not going to believe us no matter how truthful we are. And they brought his shirt staying with false blood. He responded, no. Your soul is most attempted to do something evil so I can only endure with beautiful patience. It's Allah's help that I seek to bear your claims. Okay? Really random story.
Starting point is 01:19:41 What happened? The brothers returned in the evening weeping. They say that we left Joseph with our belongings. They say, our wolf devoured him. They're going to say, Jacob, you're not going to believe us no matter what we say. they brought the shirt, Jacob sees the shirt and says, no, you're lying to me.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Yeah. And actually in the Quran's version, they believe that Joseph is still alive. Whoa. Yeah. Well, that is completely wrong. Yeah, I got a Bible somewhere here. You got a Bible on your phone?
Starting point is 01:20:06 Yeah, dude, pull up Genesis 37 versus 31 to 35. Genesis 37, 31 through 35, you said? Yeah, that's the exact same story that we have in the Bible. Okay, Genesis 37. scrolling down. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Verse 31. Then they took Joseph's robe and slaughtered a goat and dipped the robe in the blood. And they sent the robe of many colors and brought it to their father and said, this we have found. Please identify whether it is your son's robe or not. And he identified it and said,
Starting point is 01:20:38 it is my son's robe. A fierce animal has devoured him. Joseph is without doubt torn to pieces. See that last line again? Joseph is without doubt torn to pieces. Yeah, next level. Next line. Then Jacob tore his garments
Starting point is 01:20:50 and put sackcloth on his loins and mourned for his son many days. Okay. What stood out to you? Like, what's different? Well, a couple of things stood out to me. It said a fierce animal. So not specifically a wolf, but I guess that's not like the biggest thing. It's the fact that he identifies the robe as his son and then he mourns like a Jew.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yeah. Yeah. Dude, there we go. Okay, great. Dude, you're built for this, bro. Oh, let's go. Yeah, no. So biblical literacy, bro, is all it is.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Just knowing the details of your story. So who was crying in the Bible's narrative? It says that Joseph's dad was. Yes. The brothers returned in the evening weeping. Interesting. Okay, so the brothers actually are crying in the Quran's narrative.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Okay. P-Pet. Why in the world would the Jews corrupt that? Prophets of Muhammad, no. Political motives, no. Ethical motives, like that's not 10 commandments stuff. Theological motives, nothing to do with any theology.
Starting point is 01:21:45 It's a story. So let's go detail by detail, okay? in the Quran, they made a claim. They said, here's the robe. You will not believe us, though. What do they say in the Bible? He takes him in, this is what he says to him. He says, verify it.
Starting point is 01:22:00 He says, they dipped it in the goat blood. And he said, we found this. Will you check and make sure? So they're making a claim in the Quran. They're not making a claim in the Bible. Okay? What is Jacob's response in the Quran? That he says, no, your soul is must have tempted you to do something evil.
Starting point is 01:22:16 I can only endure with beautiful patience. and later on in the story, he does verify that he does think he's alive, which I'll prove to you in a second, too. What does Jacob say? Well, what does Jacob do in the Bible? Well, he verifies it and then he rips his clothes and mourns. Yeah. One of my favorite verses in Genesis is Joseph has surely, without doubt, been torn to pieces. He's dead. Huge difference. There's a guy named Yasser Kavi. Do you know that name? No. Yasser Khabi is the head of Epic Mosque here in Plano. He's the head scholar Sheikh who is championing the Epic City project, the 100-acre Muslim Megacity.
Starting point is 01:22:47 that's epic right here. That's a mosque I've been too many times. It's a mosque where I met those other guys. He says himself in his serra of Muhammad, he has like a 100-hour lecture series
Starting point is 01:22:59 on every detail of Muhammad's life. He says it's a miracle that even today, Muhammad recited the exact story of Joseph and it's so similar to the story we have today in the Bible. So similar.
Starting point is 01:23:12 He is the best scholar I know in Islam. Guess how many differences there are in between the story of Joseph? in the Bible and the Quran. How many? Take a guess. We went through like probably five right there. There's about 100 verses in the Quran.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Oh, man. There's probably a hundred. A hundred. That's a great guess. A hundred differences. That's pretty significant, right? Yeah. Is that extremely similar?
Starting point is 01:23:30 I mean, no, that's not similar at all. Totally different story. Totally different author. There's 944 differences. In between... 100 verses of the Quran. Yes. On one story.
Starting point is 01:23:42 In 90... Yes, because whatever the Quran omits and the Bible has as well is a difference. whatever the Bible includes that breaks a story. Like, how do you explain the story of Joseph if Jacob thinks he's alive? Yeah. There's probably about 150 different details
Starting point is 01:23:56 just that come from the story that they have to now harmonize into this account. Wow. So the question I want you to ask yourself, who is telling Muhammad these stories? Where is he getting this from? Yeah, because he's illiterate and he can't read or write.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Exactly. So what group has a motive against the cross and has access to the Old Testament stories? Jewish people. Jewish people in 7th century. Okay. Now we're building a case. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:23 So, Story of Joseph, which I'm going to come back to the story of Joseph, and I'm going to show you five more of those differences, and this is where you're going to lose your mind, okay?
Starting point is 01:24:30 So we're building this case. If we can't trust the stories of the Quran, and they're so bogus, and we don't know where they're coming from, and the corruption claim that were pressing on them, at least as a Christian,
Starting point is 01:24:41 I would never convert to Islam unless I had all of these answered. P. Pet, Corruption claim. Tell me any other motive. Give it to me. I don't care. Make it up. Even if they make up the most bogus ethical motive as to why Jacob was crying versus why he wasn't, because prophets don't cry in Islam. Sure, there's 900 other details. I will crush him on with love. In Jesus name. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about the Caba. The Caba. Yeah. Pillar 2. That's Pover. Kevin the Cube.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Yeah. I think it literally means cube too. Yeah. Have you ever heard that? Like, I don't know if you know, there was like a season of Fortnite where they had like a big cube in the center of the map. No way. Yeah. And so people would call it Kevin the Cube and then it looked like the Caba. That's so funny. Yeah, it's so random. Yeah, yeah, the Fortnite Caba. Yeah, they had it for a season in the middle of Lute Lake.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yeah, it was a, we'll have to throw a picture of it. Dude, we got to say that. We got the Fortnite Caba before you have GCA6. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's wild. Okay. This is Sahe Bukari, the Hadith Collection. There's nine volumes,
Starting point is 01:25:44 okay? I told you you need to know two hadiths to evangelize the Muslims, everything else don't even touch it. Sadi Bukhari 3364 is a story of Abraham and Ishmael actually going from Jarrar, which is near modern day Gaza, to Mecca. The journey of them to Mecca attacks. The pilgrimage. The pilgrimage, the Hudge, exactly. That's in here. Okay. So I'm going to summarize it. It's a pretty long hadith. And I always say to my Muslim friends, like, correct me if I'm wrong, because it's good to be corrected if you're wrong. So, Ayipakari 3364 has a story. You know, I already have the bookmark in there, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Okay, there we go. It's ridiculous. I'm wired. So the first lady, Hagar, would use a girdle and was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might track her, that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. So Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she used to nurse him at the breast to a place near the kaba under a tree on the spot of Zumzum. So Zumbum is the well that the angel would eventually give to Hagar for Ishmael, okay? The journey that Muhammad says happened is that Hagar and Ishmael actually are joined by Abraham
Starting point is 01:26:56 and they go from Girar to Mecca, which is in South Saudi Arabia, okay? And that Ishmael's age is actually, he's a suckling infant. He's nursing. So we're going to go to Genesis 21 in a second, okay, but I'm going to finish the story. So they take him to the Kaaba, he places them underneath a tree. It's a barren valley desert. Nothing's there. And Abraham actually leaves.
Starting point is 01:27:17 So he leaves infant Ishmael and Hagar there. Hagar prays. She's like, God, like, please help me. Like, I don't know what's happening. The son, like the baby's crying. God, here's the prayer. Hagar actually runs seven times between two mountains in Saudi Arabia called Sufah and Marwa.
Starting point is 01:27:32 This tradition is called Sā'ai. And it's what they do in the Muslim pilgrimers. They'll go seven times between the mountains. My parents did it too. And then after the seven times, that's when the well springs up. So it's like a ritual, okay? Then Ishmael is able to survive.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And then there's like a bird that is circling the well because it's attracted to water. This is Muhammad's story, by the way. I'm paraphrasing. And a tribe, a tribe called Jhahm, an Arabic tribe, comes to Muhammad, sorry, no, Muhammad. I'll have Ishmael's location. And they say, hey, we need this well.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Hagar says it's my well, but you can say here. And then that's how Ishmael actually ends up growing up around Arabs, he would end up taking a wife, actually two wives, from these Arabic tribes. He would grow up without Abraham. And then after he was married twice, Abraham would come back down, see Ishmael and say, God commanded me to restore the Kaaba with you. Okay? And that's how the Kaaba's built. So this is a story that Muhammad uses. We have that same story in our Bible. Okay. So go to your Bible and read Genesis 21. And I'll give you some key verses here. I'm trying remember off the top of my head. Let's go Genesis 21 verse 5, 8 and 9, and then I'll guide you from there.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Abraham was 100 years old when his son Isaac was born to him. And Sarah said, God has made laughter for me. Everyone who hears will laugh over me. And she said, who would have said to Abraham that Sarah would nurse children? Okay. Go keep going here. Yet I have born him a son in his old age. Yeah. And the child groom was weaned. Abraham made a great feast on that day that Isaac was wean. But Sarah saw the son of Hagar, the Egyptian. whom she had born to Abraham laughing. So she said to Abraham, cast out this slave woman with her son,
Starting point is 01:29:16 for the son of this slave woman shall not be heir with my son Isaac. And the thing was very displeasing to Abraham on account of his son. But God said to Abraham, be not displeased because of the boy and because of your slave woman. Whatever Sarah says to you, do as she tells you, for through Isaac shall your offspring be named. And I will make a nation of the son of the slave woman also because he is your offspring.
Starting point is 01:29:37 So Abraham rose early in the morning and took the bread and a skin of water and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder along with the child and sent her away. And she departed and wandered in the wilderness of Bersheba. Okay, perfect. Go all the way through Genesis. Was that 21 verse 21? That went to verse 14. Go through 21.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Like read through 21. You can read 15? Read 15 and then read 21. That should be enough. When the water and the skin was gone, she put the child under one of the bushes. Boom. And then verse 21. He lived in the wilderness of Peron and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Okay. Two very different stories. I know I paraphrased. Did anything stand out to you in that story that's different? He married Arab women, two Arab women. Yes. And in this, he married a woman from Egypt. Egypt.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Two completely different areas. Interesting. How old was Ishmael when Isaac was born? When Isaac was born, Ishmael was, doesn't say he was a child? He was 13. I think it says it in Genesis 20. We're 17 maybe. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:37 But we based off the circumcision age, so Abraham was, I believe, 99, Ishmael was 13. And then, oh, I'm going to miss, don't get me wrong on this. But the circumcision happens. And then he's 100 years old when Isaac is born. So now Ishmael's 14, okay? And then did Abraham, well, let's do the biggest one. Why did Abraham tell Hagar and Ishmael to leave the house? Because Sarah didn't want them there.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Yeah, because they were mocking the Isaac. was Isaac born yet in the Islamic narrative? If Ishmael was a suckling infant? No. Uh-oh. Huge difference. And if you pull on that thread, dude, oh, no. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Another key toad change. How far did Abraham travel with them in the biblical account? None. He just sent them on a horse. We have a joke that he didn't leave the kitchen, bro. He put water and food on them and it says, get out of here. Go. Where do they go?
Starting point is 01:31:30 They wander in the wilderness of what? It was Beersheba. Bear Sheva. Yeah. It's about 17 miles, about 27 kilometers from Girard. Okay. Okay. Where did they go in the Korans account?
Starting point is 01:31:44 They went to the Kaaba. They went to Mecca to build a Kaaba. Yeah. Do you know how far the Kaaba is from Girard? How far? Take a guess. Oh, gosh. It's probably really far.
Starting point is 01:31:55 838 miles. Oh, snap. I got a map for you. On the left, that green map. Uh-huh. That's Gerrars here, Bersheva. Okay. Look at the right to the map to the right.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Oh, snap. Isn't that wild? You're telling me, infant Ishmael and Hagar with Abraham made that 40-day camel ride journey down to, and some Muslims will say that the wilderness of Puran. That's not Puran.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Like, that's not Puran at all, if you know your Bible. But the whole point is that journey is insane. Yeah. And we know it's the same story because Abraham in both accounts gave dates in water skin, food and water skin.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Hagar and Ishmael leaving the house and being cast out to the desert where the well is. So according to our Torah, Bryce, did Abraham and Ishmael ever go to Mecca? No. Did Abraham and Ishma ever build the Kaaba? No.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Did Abraham and Ishmael end up in Saudi Arabia really at all in that area? No, not even close. Not even close, bro. Is Muhammad, if he married, if that story is false, did Ishmael marry an Arab woman? No, he married an Egyptian.
Starting point is 01:32:55 So if that happened, is Ishmael related to Muhammad? No. No, it's impossible. So by that case, is Islam in Abrahamic religion? No. Did they build a Kaaba? No.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Is the Kaaba from God? No. Can't be Muslim anymore. Welcome to the kingdom of Christ. Dang. So the truth is, if just one of these issues, stories, anything is wrong, then all of Islam can't stand. Wow. I'm going to give you thousands of examples in that school.
Starting point is 01:33:21 That's what it's for. Wow. These are the heaviest hitters. Okay. No Ishmaelite, no Abraham religion. Dude, Muhammad, and I say someone was, Muhammad could have been the most pious, devout, political war machine awesome leader in the world, devout prayer life, which he had,
Starting point is 01:33:35 man of service. If you read the Hadith, he was actually a very, like, pious giving man. He could be the perfect, sinless, moral example for the world. Doesn't matter. He's not a prophet. He got the stories completely wrong. And that's the only thing they need to worry about. And because we're using biblical stories,
Starting point is 01:33:50 now the Bible has authority, now the Bible has authority in their lives. Wow. And they can point to Christ. Dude, let me ask you a couple of random questions. Let's hit it. I've not to do with the like the master key Torah thing. Like one of the biggest pressing arguments I hear I told you earlier was the Pauline Christianity. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:07 So now we're looking at more New Testament epistles here. But I see Muslims complain online. Oh, this is just a Pauline Christianity. It's not the same. How do you combat that argument? Yeah. So Pauline Christianity, I actually would use that argument a lot because Paul wrote 70% of the New Testament. And he's clearly not a prophet.
Starting point is 01:34:27 So we would love to slaughter that. The reasons Muslims hate Paul is because if he was alive today, he would be like the OGX Muslim. Like he knew the law. He knew the Jewish law very well. He was devout. He practiced it. He owned it with his whole life. He had a radical conversion to Christ.
Starting point is 01:34:41 And he preaches a theology. His letters are almost 100% theology. Okay. He preaches that in so many ways that Muslims have to stand against it. So I actually don't even argue that anymore until the Quran's out of the way. because the only way you can out-argue that is by using theological claims and theology with the Muslim does not go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:35:03 So the truth is, it's an effective argument because it asks a very hard question to answer, which is why are we giving Paul all this authority if he's not a prophet? Which I think some people think he is, but I'm not sure if he is. But then what do you just say, why do you give Muhammad all this authority if he's really not a prophet? You could. And then what do they go to?
Starting point is 01:35:18 They would say, well, we have a metaphysical evidence of the Quran, that the Quran is unaltered, it's fully consistent. It's a miracle that Muhammad gave us this Quran, and there's nothing wrong with it. It's perfect, inerrant, infallible word of God. And then you would do the whole Master Key. Exactly. Every single objection that you'll get goes back
Starting point is 01:35:35 to Master Key. That's the one objection that leads to all of them is, well, do we believe the Quran is true or not? And here's how you just prove it. So we could argue theology, we could argue crucifixion evidence. I don't even touch the New Testament. We haven't mentioned the New Testament once with the Master Key because it's a losing argument. And the only reason
Starting point is 01:35:51 we love the New Testament is because it's still witnesses towards the Torah. Like if anything in the New Testament, Like the other Gospels, for example, the reason we ignore the other Gospels is because something in there denies what the Torah said, okay, in some shape or form, or it goes against everything we know about early Christian history with Christ. Yeah. Two reasons, really. So it still goes back to the Torah. So Paul and Christianity, it's a valid argument, but the reason it's a good argument is because it still is just a symptom.
Starting point is 01:36:18 We accept Paul because he preaches off the Torah. If Paul didn't preach off the Torah, wouldn't matter. we would say false prophet false false apostol whatever get out of here bro yeah okay so paul and christianies it's a very strong argument i would use that mostly i'd be like you're following paul not jesus but they're following paul because paul followed the Torah so it still goes back to that yeah okay gotcha and then i mean when do you does the morality of mohammed ever get brought up in any of your situation all the time all the time my mom struggles with it and i'm like you have to like die to that in a way. It's like, you have to die
Starting point is 01:36:56 to that because it's such, yes, it's, I do think it's true. I don't think he was a prophet at all. I think he was a random 7th century Arab dude and I actually feel bad for him. You know, I think he got used and abused into being a prophet. I mean, wasn't he a warlord? Like, wasn't it like from a political standpoint? Yeah, define warlord. So what I've heard,
Starting point is 01:37:12 and I don't know, like, so he gets this revelation and he's kind of like in the minority when he gets this revelation and like he's basically like this prophet of Islam. So he flees his area, then a bunch of people start converting. And then he uses them as like a power machine to go from city to city to basically get these cities to submit to Islam. Yeah, he, the very rough version of, but you get what I'm saying. Yeah. So I argue with Muslims
Starting point is 01:37:41 on us a lot. And I get hit with double standards that still end up going back to the Torah. It's funny. But so how many people did Muhammad kill himself? Do you know? I don't know. less than, we say 0.5, less than one. There's a guy in the Hadith that says a guy ran into his spear, and then the guy would die later of other causes. So Muhammad himself actually did not take a life. And that was a standard of his problem, but, but with his own hands, okay?
Starting point is 01:38:06 Which by definition of what a warlord is, it's like they're slaughtering people like, Genghis Khan level stuff, right? So how many people were killed in Muhammad's lifetime underneath Muhammad's reign? Roughly about 1,000. There's about 1,000 people that were executed you know, he had 83 battles,
Starting point is 01:38:23 but most of them were just like defensive battles, and people were taken as slaves instead of being killed most of them. But maybe a thousand people were executed underneath his command. And even that command that he gave to execute a lot of the Jewish people in one of those wars was he trusted the guidance
Starting point is 01:38:36 of one of his generals instead of his own guidance. And so was he a warlord? Sure. What I say is it's not, that's what you're going to hear from a Muslim and then like, I'm like, how do you even argue that?
Starting point is 01:38:50 Like, dude, I was talking to a Muslim he used Samson against me. He's like, dude, Samson is so anointed in your Bible, and he took a skull and killed a thousand Philistines with his own hands. Why am I trusting your Bible? Yeah. So I'm like, I'm like, okay, fair.
Starting point is 01:39:03 He's not Christ. Christ is the ultimate moral standard, sure. But then it's like, they're going to slaughter other things. And for me, it's just, I'm such a result-driven guy that I'm like, I don't use any bad arguments. So is it a true argument? I believe it can be used that. I want to say full transparency.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I do think Aisha was nine. And I do think, you know, he was a warlord. Like, I'm going to be super clear about that. Yeah. But you think there's better arguments. I think this is way more persuasive. So when do you get into New Testament stuff? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Only after they say that this Quran is totally behind them. Dang. Yeah. And does that happen quite often? Yes, very often, more often than I. It's happened in hours. And how many, how many of these people are really high level Muslims? I'll share one story with you.
Starting point is 01:39:52 There's a girl in our ministry. I won't name her because she's not, her family has no idea yet. She was more devout Muslim than I ever was. She knew her stuff. She actually caught the stories faster when our pastor was discipling her on this stuff.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Wow. She caught it insanely. We've run it by some of the most devout, like I'll post certain things on Twitter and I'll run it by all these devout Muslims and I've never seen an adequate answer. They just have to, they make up random motives and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:40:15 this is not persuasive at all. So this is something that she took back to, a scholarship team that she trusted. And they just said, Allah knows best. Like, stop asking these questions. Like, we don't have a good answer, but we just trust the Quran.
Starting point is 01:40:27 We trust Allah. Come back to the faith. Wow. And when they said Allah knows best, that's when her faith broke. When the scholars couldn't answer this. And there's still scholars who can't answer this today. That challenge them to all take this.
Starting point is 01:40:35 This master key. Yeah. Wow. It's built, and it's been built over 20, like, probably 15 years. And why do you think that there's a rise of these Muslim apologists online?
Starting point is 01:40:46 Like, they're literally popping up out of nowhere. Yeah. Oh, I got a hot take on this. I think that the way that the Christian church is handling Islam bro is so unbiblical. We are slaughtering character. We're not using biblical arguments to lead people to Christ. First, Peter 315 says, first revere Christ as Lord,
Starting point is 01:41:02 then always be prepared to defend the hope that's in your heart. Christ is God first. I follow Christ first. Then I'm going to come out your faith with love. We're not doing that. So we're attacking Islam with so many arguments, and attacking Muhammad is the most offensive thing you can do into a Muslim. That's like 99% of...
Starting point is 01:41:19 But, okay, let me play like a little devil's advocate with you. So then when we're talking like saying, oh, well, Muhammad isn't a prophet because of the thing happened, that would be offensive to a Muslim. If you say for moral reasons, yes. If you show the prophet's stories and how they're wrong in so many ways, I haven't gotten a single Muslim be mad at me for that. And I've talked to easily over 100. Yeah. Having matched with this. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And once we paint a narrative, and there's two more stories I really want to share with you. These are probably the two most important. I'll say one for the end. this ties it all together. This is what makes it make sense.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Okay. So the thing is, is like... Wait, get into it now. I want to get into it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, get into it. Sure, dude.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Okay. How many plagues were in the Bible? 10. 10. Beautiful. I'm going to read you through 17 verse 101. And then I'm going to show you the most... You're talking about from Moses.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Moses. Moses. Yes. Yes, yes, exos plagues. Absolutely. This is, in my opinion, And this is the hardest. I think it's impossible to answer if you're a Muslim.
Starting point is 01:42:21 And I've tested this against two of the most about street debaters I know. I said, they came up to my guys in Toronto. We run a mission trip out there. And they said, give us your best argument against Islam. And I said, explain this concept to me. And they can see that they have no idea. Wow. We gave Moses nine clear signs.
Starting point is 01:42:39 You owe prophet can ask the children of Israel. Nine clear signs. How many plagues are in the Bible? Ten. Guess which one's missing? Which one? What's the most important one? The Pharaoh's son.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Yeah, the death of the first one. Yeah. So I asked these Muslim guys, could you explain the Passover to me? They're like, yeah, it's just something like Jewish festival. And I'm like, no, no, no, like, explain the Passover. Here's a footnote in the study Quran. I have it highlighted for you too.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Here's what they say the plagues are, okay? Famine, famine, shortage of crops, floods. Are those plagues? No. No. There's locusts, okay, there's one. Yeah. There's lice?
Starting point is 01:43:15 Maybe. bugs, right? Frogs in blood. Okay, so we get three of them. There's actually seven plagues in the in the Quran and says that two of those nine signs are the staff that he threw down and the hand coming from his shirt.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Okay? There's seven plagues and only three of them are the same ones in the Bible. The Passover is missing. In the Quran and Islam, the Passover does not exist. Which, okay. Let's dive really deep on this
Starting point is 01:43:42 because you're going to watch this again and be like, let's really press them on this. the Passover is the entire point of the Bible. The Passover is mentioned over 70 times in the Bible, from Exodus all the way through Revelation, I'll give you a list here in a second. But even in Surah 26 versus 52 to 60, it says this,
Starting point is 01:44:01 we inspired Moses saying, leave with my servants at night. So God is talking to Moses, leave with my servants at night, for you will be surely pursued. Pharaoh sent mobilizers to all cities and then said, these outcasts are just a handful of people who have really enraged us,
Starting point is 01:44:18 but we are all on alert. So we lured the tyrants out of their garden, springs, treasures, and splendid residences. And so it was, and we awarded it to the children of Israel. And so Pharaoh's people pursued them at sunrise. Go to your Bible. Go to Exodus 12. Okay. And let's read verses 29 to 31 for me, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:39 29 to 32. It says, at midnight. night, the Lord struck down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon and all the firstborn of the livestock. And Pharaoh rose up in the night. He and all his servants and all the Egyptians, and there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where someone was not dead. Then he summoned Moses and Aaron by night and said, up, go out from among my people, both you and the people of Israel, and go serve the Lord, as you have said. Take your flocks and your herds,
Starting point is 01:45:13 as you have said, and be gone and bless me also. Okay, so Pharaohs saying bless me, right? And then go a little bit more down. Let's do verse, I think, 35. Yeah, 35 is like what they actually got, the inheritance. The people of Israel had also done, as Moses told them, for they had asked the Egyptians for silver and gold jewelry and for clothing. And the Lord had given the people favor and the side of the Egyptians
Starting point is 01:45:34 so that they let them have what they asked. Thus, they plunder the Egyptians. Okay. Let's compare this because this is insane, okay? So first of all, the Passover was completely missing from the Quran. They don't even know what it is. It is literally half the point of Moses' life. And it's the whole Passover land.
Starting point is 01:45:50 We'll get into that. Okay. So Allah says to Moses, leave with my servants at night, for you will surely be pursued. Did Pharaoh pursue them in the Bible? When after the fact, like they left and then he was like,
Starting point is 01:46:07 wait a second, and then they charged me, but not like, not in this passage. Yeah. So what did Pharaoh do? He summoned them right away at night because everybody has a firstborn death in their house. Yeah. It's crazy. Here in verse 60, he says, we pursued them at sunrise. So Pharaoh was just sleeping, everyone's calm and the sunrise is, okay, now let's go get Moses, right? And then it says, Pharaoh is pursuing them, right? Leave with my servants at night for you should be pursued because they have been. So these outcasts are just a handful of people who have enraged us. Pharaoh or God is commanding Moses to leave Egypt.
Starting point is 01:46:46 What happened in the Bible? They pull up on Pharaoh. Pharaoh's like, yo, please get out of here and bless me on the way out. Bless me on the way out. Pharaoh's like, dude, your God is insane. Get out of my place. And dude, please bless me with the favor of your God. Never happens in the Quran.
Starting point is 01:47:02 The whole motive for them leaving at night is completely twisted in the Quran. Wow. We can peep at that so hard. There isn't a single reason. And they don't even have the looting portion in there, right? Like when they loot the Egyptians. Oh, you're going to love that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:14 So the verse 35, right? They get the, they get the, the promise. It's the silver and the gold, right? Yeah. I'm not too biblically littered on this. New Christian. Fake ex-Muslim. Their gardens and spring.
Starting point is 01:47:29 So we lure the tyrants and get this. Their gardens, springs, treasures, and splendid residences were awarded to the children of Israel. not the gold and silver. So the gardens, springs, and splendid residences, if the children of Israel wanted to receive those gifts, would they have to stay in Egypt or do they have to leave? They would have to stay. So let my people go in the Quran is let my people stay.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Because they're inheriting springs, gardens, and treasures and residences. So they're basically getting the land that they were once captains on versus leaving the land. Yeah. Let my people go is apparently corrupted too. Wow. Isn't that insane? Wow.
Starting point is 01:48:10 The whole thing is completely wrong. The whole thing. Surit 28 verse 5. It's also on Passover. And then we're going to talk about just how crazy it gets, bro, because this gets even worse. Okay? Passover is amazing. But it was our will, Suez 28 verse 5, okay?
Starting point is 01:48:25 It was our will to favor those who were oppressed in the land, making them models of faith as well as successors and to establish them in the land. Okay, so they're getting the land. And in the Quran, I'm kind of missing this verse. if I have it written down somewhere. 28. Okay, sweet. Yeah, so the land that they're told to inherit
Starting point is 01:48:48 is Egypt and Jerusalem. Hmm. Which Jerusalem didn't come until King David, and then Egypt was never the land they were going to inherit. So this is really funny. I was watching this three on three Islamic dilemma debate with Bell, God logic, IP,
Starting point is 01:49:02 and these three Muslims, I'm familiar with some of them, but the middle guy was, Bell brought up the Passover, Bell's wicked smart. Bell brings up the Passover and saying, well, why did they corrupt this? Like P-Pet for the Passover. The guy in the middle is very sharp.
Starting point is 01:49:16 He goes, for financial reasons, to gain more political power, financial reasons, sure. So we gave him a really half intention to motive, but sure, we'll grant it. But because in the Quran, the inheritance is Egypt and Jerusalem, what he is saying is that we added in the Passover, we corrupted it. and the Jewish people corrupted the Torah to say that they should never have gotten the land of Egypt because the Quran says they should get the land of Egypt that was the promise but in the Torah of a sudden the Jewish people are just corrupting it so much
Starting point is 01:49:49 that they now hide the promised land of Egypt from them so now the Jews are corrupting the Passover for financial gain but now the Jews are letting people take their land like oh the Jews love letting people take their land right like dude this is crazy the land of Egypt and the Quran has nothing to do with it so that's another issue so every little thing, Bryce, is completely wrong. Okay? Passover lamb never happens. How many times has the Passover been mentioned in the Bible? About 70, okay? So Exodus chapter 12, 10th and final plague,
Starting point is 01:50:17 God says, take a lamb, a lamb without blemish, slated at twilight, and put its blood on your doorposts. When I see the blood, I'll pass over you. Yeah. Okay. Excess 1246, do not break any of its bones. Really important detail, okay? Watch this thread run, bro. We're going to build this timeline in real time, Okay. Numbers nine, one year later in the wilderness, God commands them, keep the Passover. Joshua 5. They crossed back into the promised land of Canaan. The first thing they do at Gilgall, Passover. Second Chronicles 30. King Hezekiah revived the dying nation. How? He calls Israel back to repent and do the Passover. Second Chronicle 35. King Josiah's revival. The text says no Passover had been kept like that in the days since the days of the prophets. Okay. Ezra 6. They come home from the exiled in Babylon. They rebuild the temple and the first celebration is Passover. Ezeko 45, the prophesied prince will celebrate the Passover. Isaiah 53. Now the prophets load the picture. The servant of the Lord led like a lamb to the slaughter, crushed for my and your iniquities, like a lamb led to slaughter.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Passover language. Quiet. 400 years intertestamental period. Yeah. John 129. John the Baptist, who's a prophet in Islam, Yahya. Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. the sin of the world.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Luke 22, Last Supper, Passover dinner. It's symbolic of the Passover. He says, I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you, and he lifts the bread saying, this is my body, this is my blood. He takes the 1,500-year-old ceremony and solidifies it as him as the center. John 19. He's crucified during Passover with unbroken legs. John says, not one of his bones shall be broken, and that happens.
Starting point is 01:51:59 1 Corinthians 5.7. Paul says it flat. out. Christ, our Passover lamb has been sacrificed. First Peter 119. The precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish. That's the Exodus 12 language, bro. And then Revelation 5, the lamb looking as though it had been slamed. So from Exodus to Revelation, the Passover is the entire message of the Bible. Never mentions it once. So theological change? Sure. Because if the Passover was in there and then they denied the crucifixion, there'd be a problem. A huge problem. And they're going to make that claim, what we're showing them is that now every single book, every single detail
Starting point is 01:52:36 that we just mentioned, plus way more, has included the Passover in these 10 plagues, okay? That's insane. Can I keep burying it, bro? Let's go. Barry it. Let's keep bury it. Dead sea scrolls. P-pet this one, okay?
Starting point is 01:52:51 Psalm 105 has eight of the 10 plagues corroborated in it, including the Passover. Psalm 105, 28, okay? darkness. That plague is not in the Quran. The plague of darkness is not in the Quran. David includes it in that Psalm. Or I don't know who wrote that song, but it's in that song. It's in that song. Pett that. Why would the Jews corrupt a random plague of darkness in darkness? Why would they make that one up? Prophers of Muhammad or no. Political motives? No, it's a plague. Nothing changed in like the land or the kings or anything. Ethical motives? Darkness plague doesn't make me pro-choice. Sorry to keep going there with that. No, no, it's okay. Theological claim, the darkness has no impact on theology. There's literally no reason. And those Psalms, Psalm 105 and Psalm 135 has the Passover written as well.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Both of those are in the Dead Sea Scrolls. And I have a Dead Sea Scrolls here, but I can't reach it, so I'm not going to get it. But those are all mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls too. So we have manuscripts from before the time of Christ that Christ, John the Baptist, and Mother Mary, the Quran confirmed, used, all of the United States Scrolls. It's an impossible claim. Wow. Passover is the key to everything.
Starting point is 01:54:10 So I know it's a lot of information. Brother, Passover one's a crazy one. And the, well, the Joseph one, they're being like, what, 900 differences and 90s of the verses was crazy. Can I tell you where those differences come from? Yeah. Okay. This is another nuke.
Starting point is 01:54:25 This is Lewis Ginsburg's collection. It's called Legends of the Jews. Okay. Okay. This is Jewish midrush. These are rabbinical legends told by rabbinical Jews to make the Torah feel a lot more alive, to basically accentuate the story. Like, it's kind of like the chosen, right?
Starting point is 01:54:42 Like the chosen has some things that weren't in the Bible, but to make the story a bit more alive, they included some details, just making me relate to it more. That's midrush. This guy named Lewis Ginsburg collected all the midrush and published it. Okay. This is tapped. The story of Joseph, I'm going to give you. you three examples that are in this book that are actually in the Quran almost word for word.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Okay? Whoa. Uh-oh. The rabbis have a story of Joseph that they're telling Muhammad that he gets completely wrong. It's all documented in here. Okay. Let me actually, I have screenshots. I'll probably be easier than me flip it.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Okay. So you're saying... I'm not saying the text is. I'm not making any clear. Based on the text, you think that seventh century rabbinical Jews purposefully correct. the Quran. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Why would they do that, though? Let me give you more evidence for mid-Russia and I'll tell you why. Okay. Because they're the only ones with a 500-year problem against the Passover. They're the only ones who have a heavy political motive. We love motives. I love motives. Let me just tell you now.
Starting point is 01:55:46 So history of Arabia, Byzantine Empire, strong Christian Empire, temple gets destroyed, rabbinical Jews get kicked out. We admittedly are persecuting a lot of Jews. The Christians were not nice of Jews. call them Christ killers. Deaside. You guys killed Christ. They're pushed out of the temple.
Starting point is 01:56:03 They're actually migrating up towards Jordan and they go down south towards Arabia. We have the Abbasidian Empire down south. Two Christian empires evangelizing like crazy. Closing in on Saudi Arabia. The rabbinical Jews are located in Mecca, Medina, and Kbar. Okay? These rabbinical Jews are being crushed by Christian empires.
Starting point is 01:56:22 The Christians are evangelizing, converting, taking authority. The Jews need, not all the Jews, there's good Jews, the bad Jews, the rabbinical Jews for the 7th century specifically, need to find a way to fight against these empires. Muhammad comes around.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Genius guy, United Arabian tribes. Hey, Muhammad, we're gonna make you our prophet. This is my theory now. This is where I get theoretical. But I think there's a lot of evidence for it. It works. They feed Muhammad these stories. They bring him as a prophet as a political ally
Starting point is 01:56:54 and it works. It works. I'm not making this up. It works. Muhammad fights, Christians wins battles. Islam starts spreading. By the time Muhammad is dead,
Starting point is 01:57:02 Islam is all over Arabia. Yeah. It worked. What is Islamic theology? What's the only other theology in the world that thinks you have to repent to God to be clean? Rabbinical Judaism. What's the only other theology that says,
Starting point is 01:57:16 actually God would be unbegotten, God never had a son, it's not Christ. Rabbinical Jews. That's Islam. What other theology has sinless prophets? The rabbis rewrote the Torah in Midrush a lot to make prophets sinless to make themselves look better.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Islam has sinless prophets. What denies original sin? What denies is blood atonement? Which, by the way, that's all found in the Torah. Yeah. Which is why Jews come to Christ too with this master key. It's the rabbinical Jews. Islamic theology, let me show you the clearest example, okay?
Starting point is 01:57:48 Story of Joseph. This is the, so this is in, okay, so I have this highlighted. This is the story of Joseph, and this is Joseph's brother in Egypt. So, Surah 1267. Oh, I got to start flipping, brother. So I'll give you one detail example, right? It's all about the most minute details that you wouldn't see anywhere else.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Because this one, this one shocked me. When I was Muslim dude and I saw this one, I was jawed to the floor. Wow. And I'll tell you exactly why. Suror 12 verse 67 to 68. It says, Jacob instructed the brothers,
Starting point is 01:58:20 oh, my sons, do not enter the city through one gate, but through separate gates. I cannot help you against what is definitely. by Allah in the least. It is only Allah who decides. In him I put my trust and in him let the faithful put their trust. Then when they entered as their father had instructed them,
Starting point is 01:58:36 they did not help him against the will of Allah whatsoever. Okay. Such a random detail. Jacob says, Hey, brothers, don't enter through one gate and then leave to the same gate. Go through separate gates or else like, Allah won't be able to help you.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Why does Jacob say go through different gates? There's nothing. I don't know. Okay, we're making sense out of baloney here. Okay. So, Jewish midrush. On account of their heroic stature and handsome appearance, Jacob cautioned the brothers against going to the city altogether through the same gate,
Starting point is 01:59:11 or indeed showing them all together anywhere in public, lest the evil eye not be cast upon them. There's your motive. The story of Jacob saying, go through different gates is not in our Torah, but it's in the Quran. And it ends up from Jewish midrush. and Jewish Midrush says the motive is less the evil eye will smite you.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Guess where evil eye is rampant in? Rabbinical Judaism. Rabbinical Judaism. And Islam. Nazer. You're talking about like the actual evil eye. The blue evil eye thing that they were aware. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:44 It's a rabbinical Jewish superstition ends up in Islam as like, as like word of God. And it comes from this story. So basically, Muhammad's like a scapego for rabbinical Judaism. He's a fall man. Extreme empathy for Muhammad. That is wild. Different narrative. This is how he make Muslims really Christian.
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Starting point is 02:00:26 Can I read you one more Joseph one? Yes. I know I'm slamming you with this, bro. Please. But I need you to just like get it. No, hit it. Okay. Hit it.
Starting point is 02:00:32 I need you to just like be a hit it. If you're a savage at this. Well, I gotta go back and watch all the videos on the school. Yeah, bro. Oh my gosh. I know. I mean, my brain hurts right now. Imagine how it most of feels.
Starting point is 02:00:43 I mean, dude. And keep going. Keep going. All right. Let's keep moving. Bro. So Stuart 12, Story of Joseph again.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Verse 30 to 31. And I love this story again. When I was most of my remember hearing the story. Some woman of the city got. the chief minister's wife is trying to seduce her slave boy love for him has plagued her heart indeed we see that she is mistaken When she heard their gossip She invited them and set a banquet for them. She gave each one a knife and then said to Joseph Come out when they saw him. They were so stunned by his beauty
Starting point is 02:01:15 They cut their hands and exclaimed good God This cannot be a human. This must be a noble angel This is the Quran bro. I got a highlight it for you Okay, so this random story that's not in the tour about women cutting their hands, seeing Joseph's beauty is in the Quran. Like what? Guess where it comes from? Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Rabbinical Jewish legend. Let me pull it up. I got the exact quote for you. Dude, that's crazy. Isn't that insane? And so the motive was literally political from these rabbinical Jews. I completely believe so, yeah. I think they needed a way to fight against the Christians.
Starting point is 02:01:46 And if you, there's a super niche line. But if you look up Noah Hyde Judaism, sect of Judaism, very, almost extremely so much much Muslim. So I think that's what sect they were with their Noah-Hyde Jews. Jews and they do have like a pagan religious like people outside of Judaism can be saved if they follow the Noah hide laws which really symbol
Starting point is 02:02:03 Sharia law and Islamic law. So that's like a whole lot of Israel. It's everywhere bro. Even with a green shler like Islamu al-Aqum like al-hashalom like it's all the same stuff. Okay. Okay. Let me find this Joseph's story for you bro. Okay. Yeah. Jewish Midrush. Lewis Ginsburg, Legend of the Jews Volume two, Joseph and Zulaka, page
Starting point is 02:02:20 147 of this. She heard desire threw her into a grievous sickness and all the women of Egypt came to visit her and she hosted a banquet. She commanded her maid servants to prepare food for all the women. She spread a banquet before them in her house. She placed knives upon the table to peel the oranges and then ordered Joseph to appear, arrayed in costly garments, and weighed upon her guests. They all cut their hands with the knives and the oranges in their hands were covered with blood, continued to look upon the beauty of Joseph without turning their eyes away from him. The story of Joseph cutting
Starting point is 02:02:50 hands, or sorry, the woman cutting their hands and seeing Joseph, which every Muslim should know, right here. Wow. One more crazy one. How do we know in the Quran that Jacob thinks Joseph is alive? He says in verse, I think, 87 or 94,
Starting point is 02:03:04 I certainly sense the smell of Joseph that he's alive. Jewish midrush. Okay? Bro, they say it in the Jewish midrush. Yeah. This one's hilarious, bro. Look at this one.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Okay, Louis, Jewish midrush. Lewis Ginsburg. These aromatic substances were so well suited to Joseph whose body admitted such a pleasant smell, so agreeable and pervasive, that on his arrival to Egypt, the perfume from his body spread over the entire land.
Starting point is 02:03:32 So the proof that Jacob knows that Joseph is alive. He says, certainly I sense the smell of Joseph in the Quran, Midrush, that Joseph had all this perfume and that it was so pervasive that it took over the entire land of Egypt before he even got there. Dude, that is insane. It's making its nonsense. And so once again, not critiquing Muhammad,
Starting point is 02:03:51 no politics. if this isn't from God, why would you follow it, bro? Come to Christ. Come to Christ, Muslim. Let's go, bro. We got work to do. Seriously, bro, I need help. Bro, I love that. Okay. I love that.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Remember that, oh, what was this one? This one was really good. Jacob believed that he was alive, right? It said, no, you're pervading me. It was in sewer 12. I know I'm kind of mumbling a bit. Jacob did not believe that Joseph was dead. And it says that in our Bible, right?
Starting point is 02:04:21 Get this. Midrah says, it's a law of nature that however how many, how much one may grieve over the death of a dear one, at the end of a year, consolation will find its heart to that mourner. But the disappearance of a living man can never be wiped out of one's memory. Therefore, the fact that Jacob was actually inconsolable made Jacob suspect that Joseph was alive and did not give credit to the report of the brothers. The report of the brothers, the, the, um, the, the, um, the, the, um, what's the word for that, the I word we used. They basically make a claim. Yeah. That claim gets discredited because of the Jewish midrush. Dude, that is insane. 944 differences. Here they are.
Starting point is 02:05:04 That was three of like 50 I have Justin Joseph. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Uh-oh. Bro, this is genuinely thank you for equipping the body of Christ the way that you do. It's so encouraging. Dude, thank you so much for coming on.
Starting point is 02:05:19 Genuinely such a blessing. would you pray for everyone as we close? Yeah, I would love to. Amazing. Yeah, our Father in heaven and Lord Jesus Christ, God, we thank you so much for this opportunity to love you. We thank you for this opportunity to be a part of your business. That, Lord, that you have delivered both of us from hell.
Starting point is 02:05:37 You delivered both of us from suicide, that you've taken the lives that we didn't want and turned it into something good for you. And so, Lord, I'm thankful for a brother like Bryce to labor with, to teach us to, to join his body, to be a part of the. the body that you're the head of Christ. Lord, I pray for the Muslims watching this. Lord, I pray for Sneco. I pray for neon. I pray for Andrew Tate. Lord, I pray that their veils are lifted that they see that it's always been about the kingdom of Christ, it's been about Jesus Christ and no one else. And when I pray that this has received well. I pray that the Muslims join the church. I pray that
Starting point is 02:06:09 the Muslims come to know Christ in his fullness. I pray that the Muslims are the moving factor of Christ coming back to all of us. Lord, I thank you for this opportunity. Lord, of all things like your will be done. In Jesus' name, we pray the blood over everybody watching this. We pray over Bryce. We pray over Dylan's team. We pray over everybody all in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

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