The Bugle - Bugle 4001 – Tony The Tiger RIP

Episode Date: October 24, 2016

Andy is joined by Hari Kondabolu to discuss the US Election, Finland's birthday and pumpkin spice. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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2016, October, in a world where ducks fit a quack, where truth is sitting in a darkened room, saying, ow, after being clouted repeatedly on the head with the icy, fossilized mammoth wang of political manipulation, where nothing is what it seems, and what it seems is not what it seems in any case, and even if it were what it seems, no one would believe it was what it seems, and would assume it was not what it seems is not what it seems in any case and even if it were what it seems, no one would believe it was what it seems

and would assume it was not what it seems or it's very best that it's only what it seems because I think the point has been made where history is sitting up in its office saying I slow the fuck down people I haven't finished writing the last thing up and B, what the fuck is going on in that world? Only one thing can possibly save humanity from itself, and that thing is

everyone growing up. Now that's a bit of a long shot, so instead you'll have to make do with. Yes, hello, Buglers, and I really mean it this time and to prove it I will say it again. Hello Bueglers, the world's leading and only audio newspaper for a visual world is back for season 4. After the 272 episode season 1, the 21 episode season 2 and the somewhat abortive 1 episode long season 3. This is season 4, which if all goes according to plan will be at least 10,000 episodes long, which has taken us to the year roughly 2266, which is one I want to stop because that was my grandparents phone

number when I was a kid, double two, double six, seems an inappropriate endpoint. Phase 2 is upon us, Bughlers, and we are now parts of the radio topia network. Everyone say hello to radio topia. Good. And this is episode, I'm going to call it 4,001. And he's a bit of a jump from 294. But, you know, there you go. And I'm delighted to say that, joining me for this truly epoch defining moment in the history of podcasting of comedy, of media, of showbiz, of human communication, of civilisation, the entire Homo sapiens brand as a whole.

Have I missed anything here? In New York City, with me now, is Harry Condabolo. Hello, Andy. Hello, viewers. It's great to have you on the show, Horri, and not only that, but it is your birthday to Diamond. Yeah. This has to be the greatest birthday present you have ever received.

Yeah, yeah. And if things go the way hope this will be my last birthday. Ah! Wow. That would, that would, I mean, that would probably boost writing. That's one way of doing it. I mean, is there a way to, to get rid of your birthday without dying? Oh, I don't know.

Like, I wait a skip it. I mean, if you have a leap here, it seems pretty great because then, ah, I missed it again this year. It just feels like as you get older, the birthday is not a happy occasion. Well, how old are you today, Hover? 34.

34. I mean, I'm, I'm 42, mate. Oh, you don't look a day over. 41, what a facture, buddy. 34, I mean, that's... Is that it? Are you still in school? No, no, I'm a professional standup comedian.

Oh, okay. Oh, that's good. Wait, did you know what I did? Not really, no, I just like the name. LAUGHTER A well-chosen stage name, hurry kind of all of it. Yeah. Oh, it's proven effective then.

Yeah. So, well, this is the Bugle 4,001. For the week beginning Monday, the 24th of October, 2016. And to prove I'm not lying about the date, here is today's newspaper. There you go. But we are, in fact, recording this on Friday,

the 21st of October. So I just have to cheat a bit on that one. In fact, I've broken to the New York Times offices. Around off 200,000 copies of a newspaper, based on what I guess will be in the news. So basically to sum it up, yep, he's still a ****, they're still ****. Those lots are still acting like ****

and a lot of sports. So I don't think I'll be far off. The 24th of October, I mean, you're not the only person with a birthday around this time of year. In 1901, Anne Edson Taylor on the 24th of October became the very first person to go over the Niagara Falls in a barrel, and that was on her, I think, 63rd birthday.

That's great, because that's at an age where you're like, well, if things don't work out, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's been pretty good. That's a good run. But that was very much the moon landings of its time, I would say. The first person to go over the Niagara Falls and one giant plummet for women, one small splash for mankind. And 28 years later to the day, October the 24th, 1929, the New York Stock Exchange paid tribute to Annette Centella by doing basically exactly the same thing

with the global economy. That was Black Thursday leading to an absolute decade of shit for the world economically. And in 2008, bloody Friday saw the world stock market's plummet by 10% in a day. So it's good to see, hurry, that as a species. We are not afraid to learn the lessons of history and repeat Basically exactly the same mistake on exactly the same day Do people do that regularly now? You know because

You know running like a four-minute mile at one point was an achievement and now like people are you know Easily doing they kids in high school do that. You did it on the way, didn't you? Oh yeah, I sprinted. I sprinted out. I sprinted out. Yeah, absolutely. That's why I'm so out of breath right now.

You know the standards of a certain time usually get passed and you kind of find it ridiculous that oh I can't believe a four minute mile was a difficult thing to do if you if one was in good shape and not a comedian, but that being said, are people doing that on the regular? Is that like a you get your barrel at the Niagara Falls and just go for it at this point? Yeah, I mean, it's been devalued really, isn't it? Right. You know, everybody's plummeting over massive waterfalls in barrels these days, isn't it? Yeah, they probably have like something that says you must be this tall to, you know, get into a barrel and jump potentially to your death at the Niagara Falls, but at least

You know, it's it's a regular thing You know, I mean with the moon landing, is that kind of tailed off, didn't it? I mean, they were it was all the rage for about five years and then everyone got bored of it Well, yeah, I mean unless the studio and Texas just shut down That's what I was about. There we go. I wasn't sure what kind of show this was, exactly, and I'm glad it's the kind of show I can contribute. Yeah, we get to the very heart of truth, the dog, the animals of truth.

On the 21st of October is another anniversary, 1850 floor, Florence Nightingale and 38 nurses were dispatched to the Crimean War. Oh yeah. Oh, that's a good one. Did you pull that one up from memory? Oh yeah, I know all these things, I don't even have the internet at home.

Just all in there. Now, as always, a section of the bugle is going straight in the bin. And in fact, this week, to commemorate our return to the virtual airwaves, since we're in America, we have a free pumpkin spice, sonic underlay, for you to play under everything you say and do between now and probably the end of November. Pumpkin spice is everywhere in this country. Wait, so is this not a big thing in... It's okay. Well, not a massive thing, not as big as it is here. Well, what do you have into, like, current space?

Oh, we just drink coffee and tea as the way it's supposed to be drunk. You don't put, like, a sugary liquid that doesn't even taste like the thing it claims to taste like? Well, I don't. Certainly, I don't think anyone else should either. Well, I'll be honest with you. I do not like Starbucks.

I don't know. It's just a sponsored by Starbucks. No, yeah. No, and probably we'll never, we'll be now, you this a sponsored by Starbucks? No, yeah. No, and probably it would never will be now you've done that. But when we did the pilot episode, for the very before even the very first people, when we were funded by Times Online, Mr. John Oliver, later this parish, who's sadly had to retire because things aren't going to well for him and he's got to get a proper nine to five job. He spent most of the pilot episode

slacking off Rupert Murdoch. Whilst two senior times executives were sitting through soundproof glass on the other side listening on headphones. So, you know, slag off Starbucks, why not? Look, I have a pumpkin spice candle in my home. You disappoint me. And I didn't buy it, but I would have.

Right. And I see nothing wrong with the scent of artificial sweetener and fake pumpkin. I feel like, I really do feel like an American. You burn the pumpkin spice latte, cause that's what Americans drink. And you watch some football, American football. And you know, masturbate.

That is a very, that's how Americans do things. Whatever takes your mind off the election. You've been hanging out with Donald Trump too much. So anyway, as promised, this is your pumpkin spice underlay that you can just just put it on a loop and play it with a portable speaker. It's large and orange, and it's cooked with sweet spices such as you might find in an Indian hot drink. It's large and orange, and it's cooked with sweet spices such as you might find in an Indian hot drink. It's large and orange and is cooked with sweet spices such as you might find in Indian hot drink. It's large and orange and is cooked with sweet spices such as you might find in an Indian hot drink. Top story this week and indeed this year.

Democracy continues to take the mother-in-law of all kickings, particularly here in America just a few short weeks now to go until it is thankfully all over until the next election cycle begins about 30 seconds after this one finishes on November 8th, stroke 9th. When the result will become clear, I guess the message America has sent to the world, Harry, this year, is basically, ancient Greece, are you happy now? Look at what miseries you have bestowed on us, you for lots of loving lunatics. I'm embarrassed. I don't know.

I feel like I've written jokes. Lots of jokes. I think I've said this previously, but it makes me feel like Nero. I'm watching everything burn around me, but I don't care. I'm telling jokes and making people laugh. And on the inside, I'm saying goodbye to everything I love and every person I love. That's pretty extreme. Do you know what I was in Chicago in this talk? I love everything, I love and every person I love. That's, well, that's pretty extreme.

Do you know what I was in Chicago in this tour? The Chicago Tribune endorsed Gary Johnson as they preferred, which is basically like endorsing a potato. That's the fact that the potato has a slightly firmer grasp on international politics and diplomacy. Yeah, like there are potatoes that are like,

Aleppo, how do you not know Aleppo? Please. After this, this last, this last debate, is Trump, is he done, is, I mean, his goose, surely his goose is biked, as they say. Um, well, you must admit, he had a very strong showing for him relative to him in this last debate. Right.

One, he interrupted Hillary Clinton at a much better rate. Right. From once every 22 seconds to once every 44 seconds, that is a vast improvement, right? That's one. Secondly, he made a very interesting strategic decision to not stalk Hillary Clinton, like he did in the last debate, where he stood behind her and stared. I think that has to do with both him being advised not to, and also being told that he had to stay behind the podium.

But considering he's getting all this heat for potentially sexually assaulting many women, probably a smart strategic move, not to stalk the female candidate that's running against you. Right, I mean, because I mean, there must have been some fear that he might just at some point reach out and grab Mrs. Clinton by the, I forget what the technical term is. I was like, just wondering that he did not, you know, grab the moderator by the balls, just

approve that he's not sexist. He got into a fight with the moderator, which I have never seen. He started debating the moderator and I think had to be reminded that it wasn't, well, because he had been holding it in for it relative to him. He'd been holding it in and as soon as he found an open to start swinging, he just went after the first person that was in front of him. I felt bad for Chris Wallace, the moderator who is the legendary journalist, Mike Wallace's disappointing son, who works for Fox News. And he was in this interesting place between wanting to do the Fox News thing

of hurting Hillary Clinton, asking her ridiculous questions that were trapping her, like, attempting to trap her, like her thoughts on partial birth abortion, which is a conservative term, you know, finding ways to trap her. But he was his desire to ambush Hillary Clinton was unfortunately countered by his clear hatred

for Donald Trump. His idiocy, his lack of decorum, like he just was forced to, like, there were moments where you could just see him just shaking his head, just frustrated to no end. And I think it ruined the debate for him. The abortion thing was kind of interesting.

Trump said, so this based on what Hillary is saying and based on where she's going and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day and that is not acceptable. Now, sure, I mean that basically that's not acceptable. Were that to be something that ever happened? Also, that's actually largely how my daughter was born. She was born towards the end of the ninth month and she was so much ripped up, but she was hauled out with a Von Tooth, which is like a suction pump on the top of her head.

And essentially the medical team formed a tug of war squad and just pulled the baby out. So basically he was saying that that form of birth is not. He wanted my daughter not to have been born essentially. That is what he was saying. That to me is not acceptable. So you're saying this man confused birth and abortion. I did appear that way.

It feels like Donald Trump assumes that no one can Google anything. Ah! Ah! He would have been so good in the mid 19th century. If he'd been up against A.B.A. for the Republican nomination, that would have been, that would have been a battle with all

Majesty. But, but, obviously, that's not at all what Hillary Clinton had been saying, nor, as I said, what basically ever happens. Like, Trump can blame our babies being needlessly ripped out of rooms at the very end of pregnancy. It's a bit like him complaining that it's legal for unicorns to shit into people's coffins at funerals if the deceased person ever sang at him or did line dancing and that the Democrats and Hillary are doing nothing to stop that. If anything they're playing unicorns with dry date procoops and rugby carries to help out the process. He might as well complain about that. If he's going to

live in this fictional land, at least make it more entertaining than going into the harrowing practicalities of what he might as well complain that the equal marriage lobby wants to force all happily married old men to divorce their wives and marry a sexually intimidating hunk called Ivan from Belarus. He might as well, I think I've made a point, no there's no one more, he might as well suggest that the pro-choice movement wants to have the legal right to fire a medieval crossbow at the Rotan's Belly of every pregnant woman in America. He should take his delusion to which logical conclusion. You expect him to be that articulate, amalgable when he's proven that he is not capable of doing that. He makes me miss George W. Bush in the strangest way.

Wow. I know. I'm completely, anyone has said that. Not the whole, I mean, that's where we're at. George Delby Bush got things wrong, but he tried the big words. He attempted the hard, big government phrases. He tried to remember what people told him right before he got to the press conference. Make sure you say that, okay, I'll try. Donald Trump's not even trying.

He's just a bully. He doesn't have, he doesn't even have the humility to be like, I don't know that word. Tell me what that word means, or teach me another word other than big lean, which he repeated several times during the course. I mean, this was one of the big controversies of the whole campaign, hurry.

What was he saying, big league? Was he saying big league? Right. Was he ultriting between the two? Was he playing with a very perception of language and its possibilities? I think he was doing both to distract people from all the other things he was saying.

That's like that little Easter egg he left in there that kind of like, I'm obsessed with that. Is it biglier, big league? I like, I'm obsessed with that, is a bigly or bigly. I mean, I tweeted that he had said bigly, and then a lot of people who are Trump people tweeted that he said bigly, and at the end of it I realized none of it mattered. Because bigly technically, I think is a word

according to the internet, but I don't, it's just that's everything's a word according to the internet. Yeah, it's like, do just that's... Everything's a word, every... Every... Yeah, it's like, do you really want to play Scrabble that way? Just put random words out there and... Do you know, out of all the implications of the Trump campaign for the future of politics, the future of democracy, future of humanity, the impacts on the Scrabble world

or something, very few people are commented on, and I thank you for raising awareness of that. He is linguistically fascinating Trump. He appears never to finish a sentence or really clarify exactly what he means, which I guess in some ways is in the great tradition of American politics. For example, this sentence,

which appeared never to be finished or clarified, a well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep in bare arms shall not be infringed. I mean, if only, this is Trump, this is Trump's legacy. That kind of confusing sentence that leads to people arguing about it for hundreds of years. I mean, he's... Oh, Andy.

I mean, it's also, his tactic isn't so much the content of what he's saying. It's just repeating the same things over and over again. And initially, it's funny, you know, as a comedian, you know how this works. Initially, it's funny, and then it stops being funny. And most comedians at that point stop repeating. Right. I've had gigs where it wouldn't have the initial funny bit of the stuff, it's just stopping funny and then that's a different tactic. Right.

Okay. Yeah. But here, Donald Trump, as with the great comedian Stuart Lee, has decided to repeat the same things over and over again for several months until it becomes funny once again. It's a tactic that's only really been achieved by Stuart Lee and I find it fascinating that Donald Trump has decided to bring this tactic to a presidential election. Are you claiming that Stuart Lee has been secretly working for the Trump campaign as head speech writer. What I'm saying is that Stuart Lee's tactics and approaches to comedy are very dangerous when put into the wrong house. It's amazing that the word great has lasted so long without any real damage being done to it.

And this human being shows up after so many years and destroys such a basic word like great. Every time Donald Trump says great, I think Tony the tiger dies a little. There's a good, another hidden victim of this whole story. It's rebel, Tony the tiger. The old saying, you know, if you throw enough shit at a wall, some of it will stick. And that appears to be in the tactic with... Is that a saying? It is a saying.

In which country? Well, certainly in my head. I know. I'm like, is this a country where English is a second language? Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris, in London, back in the home of civilization. Yes. Do you say that? That is a saying.

Is it throw enough shit at a wall, some of it will stick? Yeah, that's how I got my GCSEs at school, actually. But the most terrifying thing, Harry, I found, is that Trump is not out of it yet. I'd trade the odds this morning on a bookmaker's site, 4-1 or 5-1. So they still think he's got a kind of 16-20% chance of winning. That is a shorter odds than the conservatives to get a majority in the 2015 British general election. Shorter odds than Brexit on the day of Brexit.

And the even more terrifying thing than that most terrifying thing is that what that shows is that all Trump needed to do to be in with a real shot was to be very, very slightly less of a ****. That's all he needed to do. If it means slightly less ****, slightly less of a ****. That's all you need is to do. If it means slightly less ****, slightly less misogynist, slightly less xenophobic racist intolerant, delusional, mandatious or manipulative, he will be basically getting ready to play KB up with the new group. KB up. There was a charity dinner last night, as we were

called here on Friday the Al Smith charity dinner. And Trump managed to get booed at a charity dinner. That is it. I mean, I've been booed in a number of places, sorry. But to do it at a charity, I mean, there's a thing that's really laid into Clinton. And Clinton has some kind of barbs at Trump, but you know, in a slightly less misanthropic way. I guess there's a time and a place for slagging off your political opponents. And during the presidential campaign, that time and place is basically any time and anywhere,

apart from at a f***ing charity dinner. Nothing says, I care about needy children, more than slagging off your opponent and saying things like she's just here because she's pretending not to hate Catholics. Oh, he was booed by priests, Andy. They would not forgive him for his sins, Andy. Hillary Clinton is just another breaking new story.

As admitted sending email, she shouldn't have sent, including one, in which she claimed to be a Nigerian widow, offering herself $300 million, which she took for the Clinton Foundation, so that'll run and run. I have one grape, one major grape about the last debate regarding Hillary Clinton. Yeah. And it is that she was trying to make a point about Syrian refugees and all the things that Donald Trump has said about them being potential terrorists and the idea that we're just letting terrorists into the country. And initially, she said, talked about, you know, there are vetting procedures and all

that. But the next thing she said was that one of the acts of terrorism that has happened recently, the person wasn't a refugee. He was from Queens. Now that upsets me, first of all, because I'm from Queens. And I don't like the fact she threw Queens under the bus. But also it is a bit strange that she said he's from Queens. She made sure to highlight that Queens are the most diverse place in the U.S. where there are many immigrants and refugees. So maybe not the best place to throw under the bus in the context of trying to protect immigrants and refugees. She seems to be an extraordinarily divisive figure that's hard for outsiders to understand. And it's been an incredible achievement of her,

is really to make this presidential race as close as it has been for much of it given who she's up against. And that thing she said about politics being like a sausage that in one of those speeches, those private speeches that was filmed and leaked. She said, I claim she was quoting Abraham Lincoln, I think, or from the, or at least from the Lincoln film, politics is like a sausage.

It's unsaving, it's always been that way. But we end up where we need to be. Well, I guess when you think about a politics is like a sausage, in that too much of it will make you feel sick. If it's made with low-grade ingredients and go right through you and the profits largely go to big businesses and also it's best to cover up the true flavour and ingredients if you possibly

fucking can. This is really interesting, interesting differences between them. Hillary Clinton has tried to kind of show America in a positive light saying you know things are going all right and we can make them better. And Donald Trump has basically been saying to America, you are fucking shit. We are all shit and I'm gonna make us less shit by I'm not gonna fill in the details on how to do that.

But I'm just gonna tell you, this country has gone to the dogs. I mean, that's kind of bizarre. It's like a football manager basically coming in and saying, all my players are shit, I need a whole lot of new signings. And yet ironically, Trump's kind of bizarre. It's like a football manager, basically coming in and saying, all my players are shit, I need a whole lot of new signings. And yet ironically, Trump is massively against immigration.

So I was also thinking about how ironic it is that he's so against immigration, and specifically that his feelings about Mexicans, right? Because basically, he's about Mexicans, right? Uh, because basically, he's accusing Mexicans of being everything that he may very well be. Is he Mexican? Is he, is he, is he saying he's Mexican or does he not understand irony? Uh, I think I'm just possibly both.

Oh, you never know. You know, there, there's no eye and nuance. Andy, so Bedman has no use for it. Testify. Other news now and you're only the only one with the birthday around here, Harry, on this planet. Next year will be the 100th anniversary of Finland as a nation, since it became independent from Russia in 1917. And some people in Norway came up with a plan to, as a hundredth

birthday present for their neighbours in Finland, to give them the top of a mountain, the Mount Halty, the peak is currently on the Norwegian side of the border. And there was the side they could give as a gesture of goodwill, a little bit of a mountain. That's a become Finland's highest mountain at a pitiful 1385 meters high. It's appropriate. A hundred is the mountain anniversary. A good point. A hundred one is paper.

A 50 gold. So a hundred would be a mountain. A good point. One is paper, probably is 50 gold. So 100 would be mountain. That's appropriate. Yeah. Well, I think I think on current form, Queen Elizabeth II is heading towards being the first monarch to have a mountain to be played. I don't think she will ever die.

There's no physical way she can ever die. Four Charles. It's an extraordinary story. Norway has rejected this plan though The Prime Minister earn a soul book said that she had to turn down the idea because the country's always constitution prohibits any sacrifice Of Norwegian territory now. I mean this is they're talking about 0.015 square kilometres out of 385,000 square kilometres of Norway. That is slightly less than 125 millionth of Norway. It's not exactly the Louisiana fucking purchase, is it?

You can give away one and a half percent of a square kilometer away. Surely, it's a gesture. They're worried about the complex legal issues that arise, but again, it's part of a mountain. We're not talking about India and Pakistan and the Kashmir. We're talking about the complicated issues with a land or sea border. We're talking about a piece of a mountain, which no one's using. Who's using it? I didn't read anything about it being used for any purpose no i mean not even mountain is i mean it's in like a particularly difficult mountain to climb

no no it's a hill basically i guess the problem is as soon as Norway shows any sign of generosity and or weakness and in today's politics those two things are one and the same all the other countries in the world will be lining up, queuing up for free, but of no, and before you know it, Oslo will be in Mozambique. And there will be two billion Syrians living on an iceberg off the coast of Spitzburg,

so they can't afford to open that door. That doesn't sound bad to me, actually. That seems like a solution to a lot of different things. And good on Mozambique, it's about time they got some more land in Europe nonetheless. King Charles II of England, when he married, I believe it was Catherine of Bruganza, they were given as a wedding gift, Bombay. The city of Bombay, I mean, it wasn't quite what it is today.

Right, so I think I'm right. So they were basically given that as a wedding present. Oh, in a way that, you know, I mean, it wasn't quite what it is today. Right. So I think I'm right. So they were basically given that as a wedding present. Oh, in a way that's, you know, people tended to give parts of the world that weren't necessarily there to give. I think we should probably check the license number of the back of it, because I don't think Bombay was there. I think it was potentially who was there stolen good.

Right. It was potentially, it was a stolen good. All right. Finland, the 100th anniversary of his independence from Russia, so just word of warning Finland's keep an eye out, keep an eye out. If Russia remembers, he used to be a bit of it. I'm just saying, keep stuff, do not draw attention to the fact that that's just your 100th anniversary

of independence from Russia. Just, we've seen, anyway, don't give Putin a pretext, that's what I'm saying. And it's very tough. I mean, the the the Statue of Liberty was, was essentially a hundredth birthday present from France to America, wasn't it? Yeah. And she's, and Britain at the same time, very generous gift, was to lend a copy of the Magna Carter to America. Lend, not give, just lend. And the French gave you a 38-hime meter big bronze babe.

So. Right. That's supposed to represent freedom and liberty and opportunity and it's clearly now just symbolic for both countries. Have you actually seen what this mountain looks like? It looks, it's a shit-looking mountain. It looks f***ing shit. It's not even tall, it's just flat. The top of the mountain, it's a flat, it's just look up to plateau. Yeah, Here's a plateau for your hundreds. Let Finland have it. Bugal feature section now, the sharing economy.

Well the sharing economy is all the raids these days and there's some exciting new launches that we'd like to bring your attention to here on the Bugal of apps that could change the way we live our day-to-day lives, Following hot on the heels of the likes of wildly successful, definitely not a taxi service Uber, which pairs up people who want to share a lift somewhere with drivers who just happen to be cruising around, going to loads of different places for sometimes 10 to 12 hours a day because they love sharing so much. And wildly successful Airbnb, which enables people who want to share their houses, apartments, and in at least one case in my recent experience here in America, their psychotic devil cat with people who need somewhere to stay,

or a psychotic devil cat to keep them up all night by jumping on their bed at 4am, and just generally channeling the spirit of BLTBUB in their psychotic devil cat eyes. There's more coming out. These are all the race now, hurry, they're changing the way we live. A new one just about to be launched. Foster roster. Do you have children, finding them a little bit annoying? Want some of your old freedom back? Well, you're not alone. It's the 21st century after all. And Foster roster pairs you up with parents in a similarly regretful boat. So you can share the burden, sorry, joy of parenthoods, but still live life as if the little bastards never, sorry, joy of parenthoods, but still live life

as if the little bastards had never, sorry, the little bonders of joyous love had never happened. Foster roster lets you take over each other's kids for anywhere between one month and five years, whilst you travel the world, go large on nightlife and or just sleep properly, before returning the favour for an agreed period of equal parenting value. So for example, you could have someone else's kids from the age of 6 to 11, in exchange for them having yours for one nightmare pubescent teenage summer holiday. So all exciting stuff, exciting stuff, Hori. I had some ideas for apps. I haven't named them yet, but could I share them with you? Please do. Well one, I'd like an app that brings me coffee from the coffee shop that's downstairs.

Right. And so the app, what the app would do is, if people want to bring me coffee, they find that if I'm available for drinking coffee and then they go get it for me. Right. So it's a different kind of... It's an interesting twist on it. So it's about giving services. Right. It's like a sharing in terms That's an interesting twist on it. So it's about giving services. Right.

It's like a sharing in terms of, I don't share anything. Right. I have... You share your gratitude. Yes. That's... And people got a nice warm glow inside. Yes.

And then another app idea I had was for cuddling. Like let's say you're alone and you need a cuddle and you find out who else is feeling really alone and needs a cuddle. And then, you know, you know, what possibly go wrong with that? No, no. So, I mean, I think the fear is potentially the fear of, that, oh, is this a really nap for sex work that's posing as a cuddle app? And the answer is no.

Right. As long as you say it's no, then in this fear of industry, it's posing as a cuddle app and the answer is no. Right. As long as you say it's no, and in this fear of industry, it's no. We've learnt that. We've learnt that. Sport. Or for the American audience.

Sports. How are you? Yeah. You've not even been on this podcast for a whole episode yet. I'm trying to get you a new demo. I'm trying to get you a new demo graphic. A linguistic bullshit. I need... I'm die one.

We have to expand, Andy. If you have me, I'm going to expand. People are like, sport. What is this? Sports. Sports. Maths. Plural for maths.

Where there's one math. But sports, which there are many, is singular. Come on, Andy. I was bad enough when John Oliver start saying gotten And he we're in the new world now come on. Okay, right the big one of the big stories are the last month or two in America Has been the Colin Kaepernick story the American football player who refuses to stand during the national anthem Which is played before every football game? And I think almost every sporting event.

Because it's a protest against police brutality, but also at its core about inequality and justice as a whole, but definitely the focus being police brutality. Some people have joined in, a lot of people have not liked his choice. So his refusal to sand during the national anthem, I think, at its core, is about inequality and racial injustice, but specifically, it has been focused on police brutality and the killing of innocent people by the police in this country, killing of black people. And it's gotten, it's gotten, it's been a firestorm.

A lot of people have liked it. A lot of people have not liked it. But Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the very popular liberal Supreme Court justice weighed in and surprisingly said that what he was doing was stupid. And she did not like that, which was very upsetting because people love Ruth Bader Ginsburg

and you wouldn't have expected her to say a thing like that in response to a peaceful protest. And then several days later, apparently, she released a statement saying that she actually didn't know the details of what was happening and made her judgment without knowing all the facts, which one is upsetting because she is a Supreme Court justice, but two is kind of nice because it proves that Supreme Court justices are just like us. They mouth off without knowing all the facts. They don't always think things through.

They like to talk. People like to talk, even if they have nothing to say. Just like to talk. So there was something both really frustrating, but also kind of wonderful in that. Right. I mean, do you think she weighed in just because she's disappointed with Caponex form over the last couple of years or so? Yeah, I think that was the fan in her coming out.

The part of her that was like, hey, you know, you're not starting right now. I don't see you helping this team win. Yeah. And more than someone who believes in justice, I believe in the game of American football. That brings us towards the end of this first bugle of face to Horace, it's been a delight. It is. It is. I think you're on the show.

Thank you for, I was going to say for for honoring you, but I do feel honored to be on the show and I just hope that, you know, I could, I just hope that I, I, I do John's part as well as John did. I don't want to be the Timothy Hutton of this situation or a George George Lason B, which you can't even remember, he was banned. Right. Timothy Dalton. Oh my god, imagine if it was Timothy Hutton. I don't know.

Yeah. That's how much I forgot how irrelevant Timothy Dalton is to me that I called him Timothy Hutton. Right. Zing. Yeah. So you're way back for our episode on recurring on the 10th of November, that would be our post-election,

bagging and labeling of whatever. We might have to do that remotely, depending on what country I decide to move to. Okay. Or I might be here. In the meantime, where can people see and hear you? Yes, well, I have a podcast that is not this one. Right. With the great comedian W. Kamau Bell called politically

reactive, which is every week through the election and you can go to politicallyreactive.com. I have an album, Mainstream American Comic, which you can get on the internet. And I'll be touring around the United States. I'm in Philadelphia, October 30th, Toronto, November 4th, New York City, November 5th, Pittsburgh, November 6th, and many other dates, and you can get that information on hurrycundabolo.com, or more realistically, you would have to Google hurry, and then type in something that sounds like Kundabolo, and then Google will tell you, did you mean this, and then you would click that and get the dates.

But either way, they'll find it somehow. They'll find it. What would it look for to speak you in a few weeks' time. A quick word for radio topia. They are new hosts. Is that right? The right term, our partners in the Phase 2 of the bugle. Do you have radio top? Sorry. That is. This is a such a question. That is not a term that I'm prepared to go to at this early stage.

But, you know, if that's the official language that Radio Tobia have asked for, then I guess we've just got to go with it. They do help Radio Tobia supports the best independent producers out there. They have their annual drive to... Well, they have their annual fundraising drive to enable their listeners to show their love and support for their shows. That ends on the 28th of October. But if you want to be involved in that and support the wonderful stable of podcast at RadioTopia, go to radiotopia.fm to donate. There's a little video there as well, which has a mention of the bugle joining

the stable. If you want to be associated with a bugle as a sponsor or advertiser in our new incarnation, do email sponsor at radiotopia.fm. I'll be back next week when I'll be back in London with a wonderful Nishkumar to look at what has happened politically on the other side of the Atlantic. It has been a hard, hard year for democracy. Horry wants to get in. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. And, uh, Bugleus, uh, it's been great being back. Until next week, goodbye. you