The Bugle - Iran bans puppies, and other stories from the Middle East

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

🎧 Support The Bugle! Get bonus episodes, exclusive videos, and the smug self-righteousness of a Team Bugle subscription at thebuglepodcast.comThis week, Andy Zaltzman is joined by Tiff Stevenson an...d Tom Ballard to untangle a world that's somehow too serious and too stupid—often at the same time.🔥 Top Story: Iran & Israel — tensions escalate, missiles fly, and peace remains as elusive as a rational online comment section.🐕 Also in Iran: forget cats with attitude—dog walking is now banned. We unpack the leash-tightening madness.☀️ Meanwhile, the summer solstice brings light and… an AUKUS defence deal? Yes, nothing says sunshine like submarines.🎺 And in the USA, Trump’s latest parade blares its way through logic and decency—again.💬 Expect sharp satire, international nonsense, and at least one excellent pun.📺 Watch our visual fantasy-comedy show Realms Unknown on YouTube.Produced by Chris Skinner and Laura Turner. And Chris's dog Daphne. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi Buglers, it's producer Chris here. I just wanted to very quickly tell you about my new podcast Mildly Informed, which is in podcast feeds and YouTube right now. Quite simply, it's a show where me and my friend Richie review literally anything. So please, come join us wherever you get your podcasts right now. The Bugle, audio newspaper for a visual world. Hello Buglers and welcome to issue 4,345 of The Bugle, the audio newspaper for a visual world that holds up a mirror to the world that holds it up the wrong way around. So all the world can see is the picture of rabies adult pole cats fighting to the death that is painted in graphic detail on the back of the mirror.
Starting point is 00:00:52 But no, sorry, I didn't turn around. That's just the way the world is. That would explain the aging white man floundering around talking absolute bullshit while I was watching in the mirrored side. Although that also worked both way around as well. Anyway, joining me for an ages installment in the long running real life computer game that is humanity slide into oblivion. Two people who as far as I'm aware have never launched tit for tat aerial bombardments on their near neighbors that bring the planet skipping to the precipice of oblivion. But what do I know
Starting point is 00:01:17 from Australia? It's Tom Ballard. Hello Tom. Hello Andy. I did do a bit of that in the early 2010s. It was a crazy time for me. What are you going to do? It was nuts. The music was sick. I did do a bit of that in the early 2010s. It was a crazy time for me. What are you going to do? It was not the music was sick. I was on a lot of drugs and you do a bit of tip the table. Those kind of those kind of times. So that's what I'm on my end. Well, we're very forgiving on this podcast. We don't hold these things against people. As you'll discover. I have a right to defend myself you asshole. things against against people as you'll discover. I have a right to defend myself, you asshole. You'll discover when we have Netanyahu and Ayatollah Khamenei on next week's show. But I couldn't make it this week, but luckily Tiffany Stevenson could.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Hello, Tiff. Hi, sorry. In a preemptive move, I've not worn any makeup in order to make the playing field for all participants of this call equal. I don't want to be so much hotter than everyone else on this podcast. I've now, if you're watching this online, you will see my handles, there's make up free NBC, which means not by choice, not by choice. I just didn't have time. I didn't have time to, it's an act of feminism, whatever. Sure. But yes, hi. Hi.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Good to see you both. Good to see you too. And I've got a receding hairline by choice. I rub a special cream onto it to get rid of the luxuriant growth of hair that has bedeviled me on top of my head for many years. But it's good for the branding. It makes me look more intelligent than I actually am. We are recording on the 16th of June in the year 2025. On the 17th of June 1579, Francis Drake, the celebrity sailor and bold superstar, claimed for England, a land that he called Nova Albion, that is what is now known as California. Now, there were certain legal complications involved in this this claim in California currently does not belong to England. However, given what is going on there at the
Starting point is 00:03:26 moment, let's not rule out an emotional reunion within the next 20 minutes. Bit plundery, the old Francis Drake. He certainly wasn't afraid of acquiring stuff that wasn't technically his. I think we can say that about the man. As always, a section of The Bugle is going straight in the bin. This week we have a summer solstice section. The solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, at least, is coming up this week, 21st June, the longest day ever recorded this year. It will be and Tom down down down where you are the shortest I imagine they so often go together. But we
Starting point is 00:04:10 asked, do we actually need solstices anymore? What is the need for a solstice in a crowded modern calendar? alongside stuff like Christmas, New Year's Day, Father's Day, International Point to the Bench Day, World Unicycle Awareness Day and Pentecost. Why not just cancel solstices and have regular length days all through the year instead of these ridiculous swings from long days to short days that solstices necessitate? They've tried it on the equator and no one seems to give a shit.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Or should the solstice be marketed better, like Christmas and Easter, but without the harrowingly graphic childbirth and death scenes. Or should we just sell the summer solstice to a Saudi investment fund and be done with it the path of all flesh? Also in the bin we have a special- I want a solstice card. Can we start sending solstice cards? I think so.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Let's have another Hallmark holiday. Yeah, there's a definite gap in the market. The commercialization of the solstice continues. You know, it used to be about long days and short days. Now it's just about gifts and capitalism. What have you bought me for solstice, Tom? A dance as old as time itself. Also in the bin, a commemorative section on the FIFA World Club Championships with everything
Starting point is 00:05:25 that football fans are looking forward to in this new 32 team competition that is taking place in the USA involving some of the world's best footballers and some enthusiastic amateurs. And we can list all the things that football fans are looking forward to. There you go. That section in the bin. There you go. That section in the bin. Top story this week. Well, let's, I think it's clear where we have to start this week. So we're going to start with some jokes this week, some classic set up punchline jokes. Here we go. What do you get if you cross an oppressive theocracy moving towards nuclear capability with a war criminal megalomaniac trying to distract attention away from one horrendous military campaign by
Starting point is 00:06:07 starting another I don't know but we're currently finding out it needs work let's try another one why are news reports on the Israel Iran conflicts like the abstract expressionist artist Mark Rothko because they paint a very gloomy picture I get the strange pulsating ache in my head and a knot of anxiety in my stomach whenever I watch the news. That's because it's 2025, you dickhead. Almost. There's a couple more.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Why did the Israeli and the Iranian both buy a CD of songs by the 19th century composer Franz Schubert? Because they both wanted better leaders. I mean, leader, as in the German word for song, is already plural, but the joke just about stands. And finally, what did the polar bear say to the penguin? We're all funny because it's true. So sometimes you just have to find jokes
Starting point is 00:07:00 amidst the tragedy. Tom. Vroom tish is the sound of of bombs being dropped across the Middle East. I know neither of you are huge fans of exchanges of military fire between heavily armed nations in a tinderbox region. Me neither, I prefer sport. What have you made of the last few days, which I've been doing my absolute best to ignore? We can look at the Pentagon pizza report. I guess that's a bit of a slightly more lighthearted
Starting point is 00:07:36 take. That apparently any establishment slinging dough within three miles of the Pentagon on Thursday night, saw a sudden spike in footfall. And as of 6.59pm ET Eastern time, nearly all pizza establishments near Pentagon have experienced huge surge in activity. 10 minutes later, significant drop in footfall. It was as if there was a gap between meetings, which had prompted a flurry of takeaway and delivery orders, which then tailed off again as work resumed. Now, this is men's equivalent of horoscopes. I mean, I could pretend that it's women playing war games. But let's be honest, this is men's equivalent of Mercury being in retrograde. But instead, it's footfall in dominoes. What else are we tracking? A drop in chili sauce because military strikes do tend to give you a bit of heartburn. Apparently, Wolf Blitzer was the original astrologist because he said, I always knew there was some sort of crisis going on in the West Wing after hours when I saw the
Starting point is 00:08:34 arrival of pizzas. Bottom line for journalists, always monitor the pizzas. So Wolf Blitzer was there. He was the mystic Meg of deep dish. Right. I mean, I think the wolf blitzer is a type of pizza you can get with wolf meat and wet vegetables, I think. Yeah, wolf meat and the blitzer is just like mayonnaise liberally spritzed across the top of it. I think it makes sense. If you ask me, any good pizza party needs three things. You need lots of pizza, fizzy drink, and the covert execution of a large-scale missile strike to protect the imperial aspirations of the military industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Okay? That's why whenever I'm hosting pizza night, I always invite my best friends, Jimmy, Peter, and Lockheed Martin. But it's not just the pizza apparently, like it's not just if pizza places around the Pentagon are busy, you know, shit's going down. Come 10pm, Freddy's Beach Bar in DC, the closest gay bar to the Pentagon, had abnormally low traffic for a Thursday night, potentially indicating a busy night at the Pentagon. All the military industrial gays were too busy helping Israel to head to the clubs.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Instead of doing drag, they were doing drones. They weren't getting messy. They were firing missiles. They weren't voguing. They were bombing. They weren't slaying. They were slaying. And they weren't doing ammo.
Starting point is 00:09:57 They were participating in a military action that made humanity clench its butthole extremely tightly. Right. So I mean, it's quite an interesting opposite of poppers. A military poperation indeed. So I mean, it's interesting. This does seem to be scientific proof that the Pentagon gets, gets
Starting point is 00:10:19 gayer or less gay as war approaches. I can't look at how to read the graph. I mean, if you It's more graph. I mean, if you... What's more fabulous? I mean, Tom, you obviously are a Bugles official correspondent on the global impact of homosexuals contravening God's holy laws, bringing about neutral and manmade catastrophes. So, I mean, are you feeling guilty about this at all? Or? Yeah, it's my fault. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:10:47 If I'm taking some of the heat, you're taking some too, Eddie Zaltzman. God damn it. Don't you walk away from this. And Tiff, you're Iranian, right? I think you've got some blood on your hands. I mean, the pizza story is, I mean, it doesn't paint the Pentagon in a particularly, and a particularly good, good light. If they're that unsubtle, despite having had this monitored for a long time, that they haven't worked out an alternative.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I guess they have to, the problem is now because people monitor their, the number of pizzas going in and out, well, in generally, um, to the, uh, to the Pentagon, so they have to order exactly the same number of pizzas going in and out, well in generally, to the to the Pentagon. So they have to order exactly the same number of pizzas at exactly the same time of day every day, or everyone will assume something big is about to go to, or they need a secret underground food farm and restaurant complex so that no one can tell when something fishy is afoot, even if there is an unusually large delivery of fish, which is often the precursor to something fishy happening in the Pentagon, they've never unsubtle about
Starting point is 00:11:48 these things. It's not clear exactly what was in these pizza orders, but you I think we all assume it included garlic bread, dough balls, coleslaw, corn and a salad was going to the Pentagon. There are always going to be five sides. sides. Oh, actually, that's given me an instant headache. Um, but not now. How does the world suffer enough? And it's my only way of dealing with it, Tom. I don't know what, you know, what interpreting the toppings of the pizzas, apparently in Operation Desert Fox in the late 90s, a major bombing campaign against Iraq was underway.
Starting point is 00:12:38 The White House, this is according to the Washington Post, the White House ordered 32% more extra cheese pizzas than normal. I mean, I sometimes think when I'm sitting doing my cricket stats, that my job is completely relevant in the grand scheme of things, but there are people checking the number of extra cheese pizzas. Big orders in the late nineties by the White House. I think I can sleep happily with myself at night. I believe they ordered a side of moose as well as all part of operation dessert storm.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Now you're doing it as well. I know. I'm sorry. He's influenced me. I feel so alone. So I mean, in terms of what was ordered, you know, if there's lots of mushrooms on a pizza, you just assume nuclear war is imminent. lots of mushrooms on a pizza. You just assume nuclear war is imminent. That cloud recognition skills lots of Rookala or rocket everywhere. That's not good. Pepperoni signals that things are about to get spicy. Any pineapple. That's just obviously a sign of the end of time. There's an absolute abomination, whatever. And loads of olives. That's more optimistic.
Starting point is 00:13:44 A piece deal because obviously they needed a branch of... they took the olives off and put them on a pizza. But anyway, time will tell. I mean, in terms of the conflict itself, it's still a bit early to calculate exactly the level of Armageddonry that will emerge from it. And there's always positives and negatives. I mean, on the minus side, the people involved. If you heard about a picnic in the park involving Benjamin Netanyahu, aka BB, due to the sound of honking car horns because he's always in the way on the road to peace, and Ayatollah Khamenei, the self-styled Sabrina carpenter of hardline theocracy, with Donald Trump wading in
Starting point is 00:14:28 with suggestions for the food, you'd probably not only stare clear of the picnic, but you'd probably try to leave the continent or hemisphere or planet that you're on at the time. So a military conflagration involving the three of them, well, that's enough to put you off the metaphorical sandwiches that you hastily wolfed down before leaving that hypothetical picnic. Tom, any shards of optimistic lights for humanity that you can see in this situation?
Starting point is 00:14:56 And Andy, honestly, I've been delighted with this news. I'm 36 now, I'm getting like quite nostalgic. And I've been going through that a lot lately. And now here we are. A Western aligned country has launched a preemptive strike on a country whose name begins with the letters IRA after making spurious claims about its ability to produce weapons of mass destruction. Holy shit, crank up the outcast, watch me slip into some low rise jeans and a crop top Andy because 2003 is back baby. Shake it, shake, shake, shake, shake, shake, shake, shake, shake it like a Polaroid picture. We've learned nothing. What's up?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yes, very well. Seriously, preemptive strike is a real blast for the past. Well, blast from Israel. And this is the idea that if I think you're going to attack me, I'm justified in attacking you before you get around to it. You see, it's peace through strength. It's defense through attack. I'm deescalating by shooting missiles at you. Do you see? If you don't see that, shut up. I know you are. You said you are, but what am I? Of course, some snowflake peacenik cucks out there will argue that probably the number one way to guarantee that Iran will attack you is by attacking Iran. But real preemptive strike heads will know that just because your preemptive strike provokes a retaliatory attack of a similar nature to the kind
Starting point is 00:16:08 of attack you were trying to preempt, that does not invalidate the preemptive strike. It simply proves just how necessary the preemptive strike was in the first place. This is what's known as the preemptive strike grandfather paradox and comes from the School of International Diplomatic Thought known simply as stop hitting yourself. I can't keep hearing preemptive strike without thinking that is sexual in nature. It's like premature. I see. Yeah. Preventive is a preemptive preemptive jizz.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Guys, I've just been on the National Library of Medicine on the Cheese Point, which states that there's growing evidence linking ultra-processed foods, including processed cheeses, to various neuropsychiatric outcomes and antisocial and aggressive behavior. So I think actually maybe those extra pizzas that they're getting in might be the root cause of all this chaos. Oh right. Everyone's having a cheese, a cheese fever. Yeah. I mean, so basically what you're saying Chris is if they only use pure unadulterated buffalo mozzarella, then things will be fine. Yes, that's the peace plan. I'm right with you. I've tried it out in my life and it works very, very well indeed. That's the peace plan. I'm right with you.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I've tried it out in my life and it works very, very well indeed. But anyway, this is where we are. It's a bit hard to be hopeful at the moment, but as regular audio readers to this non-physical news journal will know, this is just the disappointing version of reality we're trapped in. Somewhere in another parallel, everyone has been listening to John Lennon's Imagine and has been thinking, you know what, it's a bit simplistic, but the lad's got a point. Let's give it his bit. In another parallel, political and religious leaders are given a special mind-altering pill that makes them act in the interest of their people rather than being vessels for their own unquenchable egotisms. And in another, all war has been replaced by sport and the world is in a joyous
Starting point is 00:18:05 utopia of jolly triviality try everyone it's absolutely awesome I spent much of the last week at Lords watching Australia play South Africa at cricket in the World Test Championship final and it was a great occasion South Africa won certainly unexpectedly but then it did make me think the last time Australia and South Africa played a test match at Lords was in 1912 and two years later, the first world war broke out. And, you know, it's just, I mean, it's maybe a little early to see that, you know, a causal link between Australia and South Africa playing cricket at Lords and global conflagrations. I'm just saying the evidence is starting to stack up.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It really makes you think. Of course, cricket is your horoscope, Sandy. Yes. Only based in pure fact. Have you heard what it's called? It's called Operation Rising Lion. And I'm going to be honest, that does not, not sound like partridge. Rising Lion. And I'm going to be honest, that does not sound like Partridge.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Idea for military strike, Rising Lion. Leel, I've pierced my foot on some shrapnel. I don't know. It's got a very distinct Partridge vibe. I like how he runs sort of playing along with the game. Like Israel's initial strike has been described by some as contravening international law, which I just think is adorable. Like, guys, are we still doing this? Are we still pretending international law is like a real thing? You might as well say Israel is acting in a way that will certainly upset Santa Claus, or today Israel acted in flagrant
Starting point is 00:19:38 violation of the preferences of the Loch Ness Monster, and everyone was very spit. Also, as always in these things, Israel says Iran wants and is getting close to nuclear weapons, Iran says it doesn't want them, and has absolutely no idea, can't even spell the words nuclear weapon. And weapon is a bit of a tricky one, to be honest. But the problem is both regimes have proved about as trustworthy as a shark turning up to surf school, insisting it just wants to learn how to catch a wave, whilst lipping its lips and perusing a wine list for something that pairs nicely with surfer Carpaccio. Sadly, the threat of nuclear war has not as yet come across its obvious solution, which
Starting point is 00:20:22 is a global amnesty under which everyone who has or thinks they might have a nuclear weapon or weapons gathers them together and fires them all simultaneously into space to travel through the endless vacuum of nothingness for years and years until they hilariously blow up a distant planet. And also we need to ban all study of physics so that no one works out how to build another nuke in future. That's a key part of this plan. But instead, we are all sitting here watching the testosterone fueled Brinkman shipsterism, I believe is the term, of leaders who do slightly give off the vibe of thinking, well, I'm near the end of my life. I've always wondered what Armageddon would look like.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I'm not going to be around to have to clean up the mess. I deserve a treat. There's no eye in radioactive fallout. And in the movies, it usually doesn't end up quite as bad as the Doom mangas make out. So let's put the boo into kaboom. And so here we are. Here we are. Armageddon out of here. All I can say is this. I'm about to start work, if I can use that term advisedly, on the England v India test cricket series. That is a potential 25 days of cricket in the next seven weeks.
Starting point is 00:21:30 If any of that gets canceled because either a world war officially rather than unofficially breaks out or the world actually ends, I will be furious. So just bear that in mind. Everyone who's involved. Don't worry, Andy. Donald Trump is working towards securing peace. So just bear that in mind, everyone who's involved. Don't worry, Andy. Donald Trump is working towards securing peace. I think he's going to be totally fine.
Starting point is 00:21:51 He's on this. He's a safe pair of hands. They seem to be sort of getting their, they're struggling to get their stories straight, the US in terms of like how involved they were or across the details. At first, the official line for the White House was, whoa, that shit's crazy, Israel. You guys are mental. That had nothing to do with us. You guys are mad dogs. You're mental. Then later, when asked what heads up the United States received about the attack, Trump told the Wall Street Journal heads up. It wasn't a heads up. We know what was going on.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Too bad, Israel. You would have got away with it too if it wasn't for that meddling president. Why is everyone acting so cockettish about their nuclear weapons? That's the thing that I was like, do we have them? I know what you do, but you do though, but you didn't know. Do I? Do I? I think it is an open question. You know, who can really say whether Israel is a nuclear power apart from everyone?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Truly Israel's nuclear capacity is like the basileum and sexuality of geopolitics. Everyone knows what's going on, but we just don't talk about it. And you know what? They seem pretty happy. So who cares? Nuclear arsenals should be on a use it or lose it basis. You can't just like sit on them for ages. Get all out of the open.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Shit or get off the pot. Is that what you're saying, Andy? They should have a use by date. You're right. They should brand on the side of it best before 2025 and let's move through. Does uranium go off? off? I mean, it goes off for sure. But is there a sell by date? Is there a best before consumed? Like we're saying? Do you get it discounted if it's only got like six months left on it? I don't know. I reckon you guys are just being paranoid. Then again, I'm in Australia, AKA planet Earth's natural underground bunker. So I'm probably going to be okay either way. Andy and Tiff, what can I tell you?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Sucks to be you. In other Iranian news, there's been a clampdown on dog walking. Now, I don't know whether this makes the world think Iran is less likely or more likely to have nuclear weapons, but the authorities have extended a ban on dog walking that was imposed in Tehran in 2019 to numerous other cities. The Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, said in 2017 that keeping dogs for reasons other than herding, hunting, and as guard dogs is considered reprehensible. But as with all things, there's always loopholes, aren't there? I mean, does it count as herding, hunting, and as guard dogs is considered reprehensible. But as with all things, there's always loopholes, aren't there?
Starting point is 00:24:28 I mean, does it count as herding if the dog herds you onto the sofa to stroke it and chat with whilst you both watch the tennis? Can hunting cover any dog walk that could theoretically result in you encountering an edible thing, such as a rabbit, a carrot, or a a stick and a guard dog, one bark is all that's needed to prove that your dog is guarding something. So, you know, it's very unclear as is so often the case. Walking a dog is apparently viewed by some as a sign of Western
Starting point is 00:25:00 cultural influence. I mean, whatever next? Are are they going to ban football phone-ins twerking and being haunted by the echoes of history as well? I mean, it's so hard to enforce those things. I mean, is this a sign of a regime that is showing its weakness by clamping down specifically on people taking their doggy for a walk? I would say when it comes to the crimes of Western cultural influence, keeping puppies as pets is nowhere near the top of the list of the crimes. We would use that as a selling point.
Starting point is 00:25:31 If there was a brochure for Western culture, the front cover would be a puppy in sunglasses skateboarding on the Mona Lisa. We're leading with that. It's not that surprising. Persians are famously cat people, so it makes more sense. But I don't know, I just think religions have such weird hangups with like adorable creatures, Islam, they don't like dogs, Judaism, they like pigs, Catholics, altar boys, you know, I just think they've got to really sort of work out their weird relationships with these
Starting point is 00:26:02 cute things. Don't you think Andy? Do you want to comment on that? As a lapsed Jew, I'm completely neutral on all these things. What about a relapsed? Maybe a prolapsed Jew. I think, I mean, this is not particularly funny, but I do want to say, like, I think
Starting point is 00:26:25 like dogs are like possibly the purest thing in the world. And there aren't, I don't know if there's another animal that can glue people together. Like recently I'd been in town, I had a horrible day in town and a horrible train journey in and I think there was like a match on and there was a lot of like, like, you know, kind of rowing on the train and just people being dicks. And on the train home, this lady got on with a very, very cute two year old Labrador. Like, I would go as far as to say it was a flirty Labrador because it went down my section of the carriage and it greeted every single person wagging her tail like crazy. And there wasn't
Starting point is 00:27:01 a single person that wasn't delighted to see this dog. It's like a dude in his construction clothes, a moody teenager, someone who's possibly an accountant, they look miserable in a suit, a woman with shopping bags, someone else who'd been on a date. And every single one of these people genuinely makes me tear up. They lit up when the dog went up to them. It was like a rainbow had got on the train, right? And the dog didn't care about how much money anyone had, whether they'd been in a fight, whether any of those people were good people. She just wanted to say hello to everyone and she worked that courage. And when I think of all the horrific things that the IRGC have done, and there have been many, to take away the chance to be loved or even be seen by, for for a minute by something as pure as a dog, it's up there.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It's up there with the worst things you could do. This is it right? Like, look, I got a lot of critiques of Israel and I don't want war here. And I think what they did as a strike is terrible. But it is hard to sort of root for the team that has banned puppies. And when it is a tough one, Come on, Aran, I'm trying to help you out here. Jesus Christ. And when it is a tough one. Come on, Aran. I'm trying to help you out here. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:28:06 So essentially what we're saying, Tiff, is we just need to replace all international mediators, or ideally leaders, with Labradors. Yes. And the world would be a better place. Oh my god. Yeah. Let the dogs my God. Yeah. Let the dogs run countries. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:27 When they say this country's gone to the dogs, we'll be like, yes! Finally! That's some sort of blissful utopia. The G7, they're just f***ing everybody, each other, humping everybody left, right and center. Or they fall asleep. The good boy, the good boy G7. It would be the GB7. It would be the good boy seven.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I think we've just workshopped the greatest ever comic disaster movie plot in history. What's your dog's name? Chris, that was fantastic. Oh yeah. We should point out to listeners that. Oh, sorry, Daphne. Sorry. This is Daphne.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Daphne. Daphne. You just happened to walk in the room as Tiff started talking about dogs. Oh, hi, Daphne. Daphne named after Daphne Demorier here would definitely contest that she's better than a Labrador, although they're both as rabid as each other. Oh, see, this is how it begins. You might say that Daphne was cute, but according to Abbas Nafarji,
Starting point is 00:29:33 the prosecutor of the Western Iranian city of Hamadan, dog walking is a threat to public health, peace and comfort. So, you know, there's always different ways of looking at the same thing. That guy. Australia news now. And well, this is exciting news for you, Tom. Apparently Australia has a chance to save itself from itself, according to Monarch fondling
Starting point is 00:30:04 former Prime Minister Paul Keating, who as I recall, he groped the late Queen full on the arse, didn't he? Is that, if I'm remembering this correctly? She was alive at the time, in Paul Keating's defence. Can I please make it very clear? He's not an epiphyliac. You guys won't let that shit go. What did you call it? The lizard from us or whatever?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Slightly tap her on the shoulder, I think, but it was basically the closest that the UK and Australia have come to war. Until now, it seems. Thanks to the wonders of Orcas. Yes, I was being witty, Andy, I might say that orcas is getting a little bit awkward and if I wasn't being witty I'd say that when it comes to orcas Trump has Last week the Pentagon announced that it would be launching a review into the orcas deal to ensure that aligns with Trump's America first agenda, which is fair enough. I mean to to be fair, in the acronym AUKUS, the US is dead f***ing last. Presumably the review will recommend renaming the whole thing USAUK and that'll be that
Starting point is 00:31:14 problem solved. But just in case people have forgotten, AUKUS is the big submarine deal arranged between Australia, the US and the UK. Apparently it means Australia is going to buy some of America's old nuclear power submarines from the early 2030s. Then together we're gonna build new submarines that will definitely absolutely be delivered in the 2040s. And we get these nuclear powered magic beans
Starting point is 00:31:37 for the low, low price of Australia's only cow and about $368 billion. All of this of course is to protect us from the looming threat of China, a country which is simultaneously our greatest enemy and our largest trading partner, which is really fun for us. It's the ultimate will they want they relationship where like Ross and Rachel, if Rachel was a rising superpower with one of the largest military forces in the universe and Ross was just just Ross really. I like the name Orcas. It sounds
Starting point is 00:32:11 like how an Australian would describe a British person flirting. Orcas f*** them out. It's very hard to believe that the submarines are gonna be much used to This lime doesn't know what the f*** he's doing! It's very hard to believe that the submarines are going to be much used to Australia in terms of protecting ourselves from China as China is a country of more than a billion people which means they could probably wipe all of Australia out with a coordinated fart in our general direction. But anyway, forget about this. Oh, the Monty Python defence. Yes, very much so.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It's a fantastic deal, Aukus. Everyone loves it. It's a good use of time and money and everyone, all the leaders are fully behind it, including President Trump, who in February was asked by a journalist, hey, what do you think about Aukus? To which he replied, what does that mean? Really inspires confidence, Andy. It reminds you of that time when FDR was asked to comment on the Manhattan project
Starting point is 00:33:08 And he famously replied the mad had a what now? Apparently the UK isn't exactly exploding with excitement either in January the UK government's own major projects agency described the UK's plan to build the nuclear reactor cores needed to power Australia's orca submarines as unachievable. Come on, team, just because something's unachievable. Are we gonna let that stop us from trying to achieve it? Yes. Well, if you've been here recently, you may have viewed HS2, Tom. So just take what you need from that.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Still struggling on that one too, right? Don't worry about the submarines. But yes, Paul Keating, a former Australian Prime Minister, is a very big orca skeptic. He thinks the review is great. He thinks that this is a good chance for us to move away from the whole deal. He thinks the orcas deal, he described it as, hurriedly scribbled on the back of an envelope by Scott Morrison, along with the vacuous British blowhard Boris Johnson, and the confused president Joe Biden put together on an English beach a world away from where Australia's strategic interests primarily lie. That's right, people.
Starting point is 00:34:17 This thing was written on an English beach, the worst possible place in the world. If you ask me, the idea of an English beach doesn't even make sense. It's an oxymoron. It's like military intelligence or concise bugle. It doesn't exist. Are you guys still on board August? Are you loving the August vibe? Well, we absolutely love it.
Starting point is 00:34:43 But of course, if Australia pulls out and Australia insists on precedent, it will then become just the US-UK, so it will be known as USUC, which seems slightly more appropriate to the whole project. But it's interesting that Keating and Malcolm Turnbull were saying this is now an opportunity to jump ship from the submarine deal, which could leave Australia floundering underwater like an overstretched metaphor. So you can see why it's just a slightly split opinion. And as you say, it's a very clever scheme, Orcus, the submarine scheme that announced
Starting point is 00:35:18 to the world that there could be a subsurface sea-based military chess piece, fully up to date for the challenge of Asia-Pacific geopolitics in the 2020s as soon as the year 2046, if not later. So you can see this is all going to work out tremendously well for everyone. It sort of comes at a time of like peak America hatred in Australia too. There was polling from the US-based Pew Research Center this week, which showed that Australians hate Trump bigly. Only voters in Sweden have stronger anti-Trump views than Australians who believe the president is unable to understand complex problems, not qualified to hold his job, and is unlikely to deal with major issues such
Starting point is 00:36:02 as the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. Now, in fairness, that also describes most Australians. My local brister, for example, in peers completely unable to understand the complex geopolitical economic impact of trade tariffs. The flower he tries to draw on the foam on my latte looks like dog shit. And when it comes to Ukraine and Gaza, as far as I can tell, he's done. like dog shit. And when it comes to Ukraine and Gaza, as far as I can tell, he's done. Did these people not poll Canada? I feel like Canada's being left out of the.
Starting point is 00:36:36 We're higher than Canada and Mexico. It's kind of crazy. It's almost like a big paradox. It's always a bit like, okay, Australia, you could probably calm down. Like if Canada and Mexico should probably be more freaked out than us. But apparently we're losing our minds down here. Rich, powerful men showing off news now. And well, let's start with Donald Trump. I was just thinking to myself, I'll tell you what America doesn't do enough of, and that is superficial tributes to its military and lip service gratitude to service personnel personnel whilst thousands of them live on the streets with no social support network. But luckily they have a president who overcoming his deep-seated sadness at being denied his chance to serve and prove his manhoodanous bravery by the cruel fate of bone spurs nonetheless loves nothing
Starting point is 00:37:19 more than to pay devotional homage to those who have been able to fulfill his dream on his behalf. And Donald Trump hijacked the US Army's 250th birthday celebrations to put on a great big military parade, the like of which America has not done since the first Gulf War. It hasn't always been the case that American presidents have looked eastward to North Korea's Kim family for inspiration. But Trump got his jong on and added this parade to the US Army's long planned commemoration schedule. It's drawn criticism for its cost.
Starting point is 00:37:57 60% of people in a survey felt the parade was not a good use of public funds. To be fair, it was probably a better use of public funds than Trump hiring 3, 3000 Statue of Liberty impersonators to do a pole dance for him, which was basically the alternative. I think Stephen Miller was pushing for that one, wasn't he? Yes, I think it could, when they say the cost would be about $45 million, including a couple of million dollars just to repair Washington's roads after they may have been damaged by having tanks drive down them. Now, just to reiterate to any Americans listening, your government would love to provide you with healthcare, but I'm afraid there is simply not enough money.
Starting point is 00:38:41 America cannot afford to provide you with any healthcare unless, of course, you are a road suffering from the debilitating pointless tank compression syndrome. Then they'll talk about it. The protests Trump responded to really made me laugh like a harass mum on the school run to the No Kings protests. I don't feel like a king. I have to go through hell to get stuff approved. We're not a king at all, thank you very much. Chill out, Donald. Yes, I mean, that's the whole no kings movement, which has sort of tapped into the fact
Starting point is 00:39:10 that Donald Trump doesn't fit entirely snuggly into that whole George III was too much of a dick vibe that the founding daddies tried to eternalize in their constitutional codifying back in the day. But in terms of no kings, I think they might have missed out three letters before the K of Kings and another four for the X of Kings, but it was understandable,
Starting point is 00:39:31 understandable mistake. Donald Trump at this parade spoke briefly as he tends to, to things where events where things might get awkward, to thank those present for their service. And he said this, our soldiers never give up, never surrender and never ever quit. They fight, fight, fight, and they win, win, win. And that, that buzzing vibrating sound you can hear buglers. That's America's phone going off. History is calling to pick him up on some details of that claim.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Well, this is it. He said he wanted the parade because every other country celebrates their victories. It's about time America did too. That's not true, Donald. Here in Australia, we have Anzac Day, a commemoration of a military battle in which we got our asses f***ing handed to us. It's called self-deprecating humility, my friend. Look it up.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Actually, I'd be okay if America celebrates all its victories as long as, yes, it also acknowledges all the losses. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, democracy, the Star Wars franchise, the war on Christmas. You know, let's have a balanced view here. And of course, the the first ever international cricket match in which it lost to Canada in 1844. And that's so weird. I didn't put that on the list. That's a lot of a lot of Trump's sort of resentment towards Canada and the rest of the world can really be traced back to that day, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:50 There's some great signs. There was one that said, get this taco to go. No kings since 1766. They want 1939 Germany. Let's give them 1789 France. My favorite. Oh, and remember your ancestors were immigrants too. Uh, that was a good one. I mean, we're all immigrants. I think that like we all start in one place and we end up in another, you know, we all start in a vagina and end up in a country. We all start in a woman is what I mean. You'll start in a woman, end up in a country.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So technically we're all, we're all, we're all immigrants. and a woman end up in the country. So technically, we're all immigrants. There seems to be like just some hustlers there, some people trying to make some sweet business out of the whole affair. This is from a Guardian article. A tent managed by a beverage company handed out room temperature bottles of an energy drink form. The flavor, called Screamin' Freedom, tasted like hard candies dissolved in water, and an advisor in the cans warned that they were not to be consumed by minors or pregnant women. That's the delicious taste of freedom, everybody. Sweet, delicious, non-FDA-approved freedom. It really makes you feel proud, though not legally liable to be American.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And there was a group of women from Pennsylvania who were sitting on the grass and one wore a red, white and blue blouse, the other a flag-printed dress. Trump wants to keep us safe, said the woman. He's not Hitler. Which I think we can all agree is the lowest setting of a bar in recorded human history. In this cynical world of ours, Andy, it's important to focus on the positives. So why not spend some time writing in your gratitude journal about all the ways in which your president isn't like Hitler? I know that I get it, you know, when right-wing commentators suggest that the left say everything I don't like is Hitler, like add reduce, reduce show Hitler is real. But if you if you've seen the videos of ice, with their faces covered, snatching people off the streets, and not giving out badge numbers,
Starting point is 00:42:57 and with no names, I mean, who does that remind you of? Like the secret police, the Gestapo, like, in this case, it literally is literally out the playbook. Like the secret police, the Gestapo, like in this case, it literally, it's literally out the playbook. Like I think. Yeah, but you're making a very modern mistake here Tiff of judging politicians by the things they say and do. And yeah, that doesn't work anymore, I'm afraid. The typical intolerant left there, looking at things that people say and do and facts and their bullshit. Right. Well, that brings us to the end of this week's Bugle.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Tom, anything to plug? Ah, peace. Yeah. World peace. Can we try that for once? Also look at my YouTube channel. The two big ones, World Peace and Tom Ballard on YouTube. You can watch a bunch of specials there for free. If you look for my special Tom Ballard, It Is I, that's an 800 pound gorilla.
Starting point is 00:43:56 People have a look at that. That'd be fantastic. Thank you. Spoken like a true Miss World contestant. Big two. Do you reckon, yeah, do you reckon Miss World contestant. Do you reckon yeah, Miss World contestants these days call for world peace and then also plug their social media handles. Jeff?
Starting point is 00:44:16 I am in Luxembourg on Friday, doing my show husband material. So I don't know how many buglers there are in Luxembourg, but do come out buy a ticket to that if you're around. Also just a big old general fat plug for well actually I have a preview in London on the 24th at Top Secret Comedy, and then a general plug for the Edinburgh Fringe, which I will be at Monkey Barrel 2.50pm from the 30th of July to the 24th of August. And I'd like to get those pre-sales really, really going because they leave me in less state of panic. But yes, shout out to the Monkey Barrel who make it a possibility to even do Edinburgh now these days. So, yeah, looking forward to that. The new show is called Post Coital. Yeah, looking forward to that. The new show is called Post Quoetel. I'm doing a one-off performance of the my Zoltgeist tour show at the Frome Festival on the 7th of July. Tickets are available via my website andyzoltzman.co.uk.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Other than that, I will be banging on about cricket for as previously mentioned most of the next two months Due to the aforementioned cricket. We are having a week off the bugle next week. We will put up a sub episode with some Delectations for Chris is giving that the thumbs up and hopefully well that gives the world two weeks to sort it shit out By the time that we next do a full bugle. So, you know, take that. Sometimes we just need a bit of space to clear our heads and get things sorted. So we are giving that to to the world.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And then we'll be we'll be back early in July. We have Josh Gondelman and Josie Long. Until then. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.

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