The Bugle - JD Vance: Sofa King Weird

Episode Date: August 27, 2024

JD Vance did what?!?! (or he didn't, who knows?). It's been a bad month for the MAGA crew, here's a breakdown. Plus gay penguins, burglaries and Alicia Silverstone's poison pilgrimage.The Bugle is fun...ded entirely by our audience. Support us here: http://thebuglepodcast.com/donateWritten and presented by:Andy ZaltzmanHelen ZaltzmanNato GreenAnd produced by Chris Skinner and Laura Turner. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ah ah ah ah ah! The Bugle The Bugle, audio newspaper for a visual world. Hello Buglers, and welcome to the first post-summer hiatus bugle of the year, following the first and only official summer hiatus of the year, if you ignore the micro hiatuses we tend to have between each episode of the bugle because whilst of course we are on call 24 7 3 6 5 and a quarter whenever satire is needed apparently podcasting non-stop all the time just to avoid the
Starting point is 00:00:37 accusation of having hiatus is not worth the hassle these days although it would make Chris's job editing it easier if he didn't have to edit it at all. Anyway, here we are. This is issue 4313, the world's leading and only audio newspaper for a visual world, with me, Andy Zoltzman, here in the sacred shed of unquenchable truth in South London. And I'm joined firstly by someone whom I first met, when was it? Back in April 1980, when she was complaining about pretty much everything as I recall. Hasn't really stopped since. It's the quibbling sibling, Helen Zoltzman. Welcome back Helen. Thank you Andy. It's been a couple of years since I've been on this show. Was there a family feud that I didn't know about? Oh I don't know actually. Not that I didn't hear about it either.
Starting point is 00:01:19 But I mean maybe we've both been blocked by everyone else. Damn. Well I don't know. Well that hurt. Well I haven't't know. Well, that hurt. Well, I don't really thought of it like that. You are currently on tour with The Illusionist in the UK, which we will give a proper plug to later. How's it... Appreciate it. Just started last night?
Starting point is 00:01:34 How'd it go? Just started last night, yeah. Well, I printed some tea towels as merch and I'm doing a great trade in tea towels. And I think maybe it's more of a tea towel tour with a show tacked on at the front. I think that's basically where all showbiz is heading towards just the global big tea towel is taking over the industry. Yeah, this is just a normal size tea towel though. No one's going to get smothered by it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So it's reassuring. Also joining us from over land and sea and then land again, quite a lot of sea, then quite a lot of land following a relatively short bit of land at the start. In San Francisco, it's NATO green. Happy late August, NATO. Welcome back. How's your summer been since we last spoke? Hello, Andy. Hello, buglers. As you all know, I'm involved as a citizen. So I was out in my neighborhood knocking on doors, talking to voters, trying to,
Starting point is 00:02:29 there's a race for our local city council basically. And so I was talking to voters in support of my candidate and I knocked on someone's door and I said, hi, I'm NATO from around the corner, talking to you about my this candidate Jackie Fielder and the person who had come to the door said NATO green from the bugle. So shout out to Alex on Folsom Street, bugler and Alex, you know how to vote. Either you could vote for decency or the end of history, but it's really
Starting point is 00:03:06 up to you. I mean, I don't think those two are mutually exclusive. I mean, I'd quite like to see both actually. Yeah, quite polite end of history would be the last thing anyone's expecting. I think it'd be a nice little nice little twist in the 26th of August 2024. On this day in 1883, Krakatoa, the celebrity Indonesia based volcano, really got its eruption on. Turning skies, a particularly embarrassed shade of red. Across the world, a plume of ash. Ash bloomed up 50 miles in the air. The kaboom was heard almost 3,000 miles away. And the whole thing made Craxi one of the biggest global celebrities of the late 19th
Starting point is 00:03:51 century, along with the likes of Monarchy and Imperialism superstar Queen Victoria, tuberculosis, cricketer and hipster beard inspiration W.G. Grace, painter Claude Chaumy-Darmonet and electricity. Cracketoe was right up there with the big guns of the late 19th century. So why did crack see crack it up in 1883? Well, who knows? Who knows what motivates a volcano these days, even less so in the 1880s. It looks like a classic cry for help to me.
Starting point is 00:04:20 What do you guys think? What was the rationale behind Krakatoa erupting in such spectacular fashion? When you're a middle child, Andy, were you ever starved of attention and had to erupt just to get someone to notice you? I did have a few moments like that, yes. So yeah, I guess there's got to be a frustration as well at being a volcano and being denied the freedom to choose your own path in life very much you know stuck where you are and you know there's certain expectations that come with being a volcano and I guess there's a lot of pressure to live up to that. It was the cancel culture of its time. Well it cancelled itself by blowing itself up and ceasing to exist as a volcano I guess
Starting point is 00:05:03 and having to build again from scratch. But anyway, fair play. Um, that was back in 1883. It is also today, uh, the 26th of August, apparently it's international dog day. I presume it's pro dog rather than anti dog. Um, but, uh, I have either of you marked this in, in, in any way. I feel like every day's international dog day to me. I welcome all international dogs, except the ones that have weird personalities because their skulls are too small. Sorry, that's our new genesis. It's one of the weirder fashion trends of recent years. I think
Starting point is 00:05:40 the average dog now just looks a lot weirder than the average dog 40 years ago I don't know. I haven't looked at the signs of that. Anyway to mark international dog day We give you a free bugle pullout of the great human speeches But they would have sounded if they've been given by dogs instead of people including Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg address Jesus H Christ's Sermon on the Mount, Emmeline Pankhurst's Freedom or Death Speech from 1913, and finally Jack Karnam's commentary on Cliff Thorburn making a 147 maximum break at the Crucible in 1983. As always, a section of the Beagle is going straight in the bin. This week we
Starting point is 00:06:40 have a quick review of the Olympics. The Olympics happened, well, pretty much. I think they started after our last episode. I don't know if that's coincidence or it is coincidence. I'm just having that confirmed. I know neither of you are nearly as obsessed with sport as doctors recommend. Particularly if that doctor is me. Did you watch any Olympics? For Pacific Coast time, where where NATO and I both live.
Starting point is 00:07:06 It was on an inconvenient time. Right. I don't have the powers that you do, Andy, to go nocturnal for sport, but I had just flown back to England in time to watch the last day with our mother. And it turns out there's a lot of really weird cycling events and I don't understand why humans invented them. I think that's the joy of sport is that, you know, there's so much that humans could concentrate on that would really benefit the species as a whole, but we have devoted a huge amount
Starting point is 00:07:35 of our brain power to developing things that distract us from the things we should be doing and sport is right up there and, you know, ridiculous cycling events. I mean, the, the break dancing seemed to get quite a lot of, a lot of traction. Oh, a lot of scandal there. Huge, huge scandal. For too long, the Olympics has focused on people achieving high quality of performance and winning. And, you know, I think it wants to accurately reflect the human condition.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It should just be people winging it and failing. Someone has to come in last at the Olympics. Exactly. Yeah. And I think there should be like an inverse podium, just like a ditch for the last three in each event. Like a graveyard. The person who finishes last, because their head is just poking up above the ground and
Starting point is 00:08:23 then one step up for the so look that you know the anti-podium of shame for us to celebrate failure. Also a huge controversy over events not included despite the fact that a number of ridiculous and tedious events were included in Cuba including the International Human Cannonball Association has protested about the lack of inclusion of cannonballing as an Olympic sport. has protested about the lack of inclusion of cannonballing as an Olympic sport. Because modern military equipment could potentially transform the art of human cannonballery and who would not want to watch that as an Olympic event to see which athlete can keep a rock solid aerodynamic body shape as they're blasted 180 miles across the French countryside using the very latest in ballistic
Starting point is 00:09:03 technology. That to me is the future of sports. Also riderless dressage was excluded once again. I mean controversy reared its snout with stories of horse bullying in the dressage. So I think it's time to accept that the event would be a lot more exciting if instead of one highly trained horse and an elite level rider trutling around for no apparent reason doing ridiculous dancing, they just released 30 wild horses into an arena and see what happens. That to me is better television. Were any of the Zaltz people break dancing enthusiasts back
Starting point is 00:09:32 in the day in the eighties? No. I don't think it was legal in Kent in Tunbridge Wells. Can you remember? No, the spinal unit for bad it. Yeah. Um, it was far too Tor a town to allow break dancing. Or any kind of dancing.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah. Other than the slow waltz with someone dressed in a Margaret Thatcher outfit. I think that's the only legal dance in Tunbridge Wells when we were kids. Are they getting rid of horses from dressage or from the modern pentathlon so next time it will just be competitors leaping over jumps on their own? Yes, yeah, which to me will be more exciting, I think. Or if the horses can ride the athletes. That's only fair. Will the athletes that's only fair will the athletes have to clock together some coconut halves anyway our olympic section is in the bin top story now and when we last recorded joe biden had just announced he was stepping aside and that camilla harris would be uh the democratic candidate in the forthcoming election. NATO, as America
Starting point is 00:10:49 gradually or rapidly declining into a pit of its own self-inflicted despair correspondence. Bring us up to date with what has happened in the intervening weeks since late July. Last night at dinner, someone was telling me about having eaten a delicacy that was a fish marinated in its own urine. Nothing else describes American politics quite as perfectly as that image. We sit here on August 26th. The last episode that you released was right after Biden stepped aside and Kamala Harris consolidated Democratic support.
Starting point is 00:11:29 On July 13th was when Trump was shot in the ear at the Republican convention. It was dark time for Democrats. It's only been six weeks. It's been such a whirlwind of six weeks. It's been dizzying. Six weeks is such a fast amount of time, as the Republicans call it, the appropriate length of time to bring a pregnancy to term. I've forgotten about the ear thing. That's how long it's been. But also NATO, election campaigns
Starting point is 00:11:56 in the UK are only six weeks. This all has to happen in that period. I am jealous. That is enough reason to shred the Declaration of Independence and return to the bosom just so that we can shorten our election period. Do you know, Andy, you've been off the air this whole time, do you know how much of a hardship it has been for me personally as a white male comedian to not be podcasting. I actually did go on the bituation room in another podcast but I've had so many takes. I am dying from all of my pent-up takes. I've had I've had blue balls of podcasting my takes. This this hi the bugle hiatus in the summer of 2024 is literally the most
Starting point is 00:12:43 violent man-made disaster to happen to anyone since Chernobyl. It's been very confusing for me also because as someone who votes for Democrats and also hates the Democrats, do you know what I mean? As you know, I'm not big on teams. I don't root for things. My team is the international working class. I think this might finally be our season. We've made some trades. But the, you know, like my team, they're my team. I grudge them. I resent them. But they're also craven, feckless idiots who snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, like a junkie whose drug of choice is mediocrity, who will sell one shoe on the street, not a pair, just a single shoe, to get a fix of mediocrity.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And so it's confusing to have the Democrats pivot from their decades old strategy of being tedious losers to seeming to try something completely different and out of the box and try to win and care about anything. It's been like flawless execution by the Democrats. When Biden, his polling was in the toilet, Democrats were telling us that democracy was at stake with Trump, but then acting like the stakes were lower than that, like it was just stakes at stake, you know what I mean? And then Nancy Pelosi, my congresswoman from San Francisco, like I hate her and it's mutual, She hates me too. Because one time I delivered a seven foot styrofoam spine to her office. And her staff have never forgiven me.
Starting point is 00:14:32 But she kept what was amazing, like she was the nail in the coffin for Biden stepping aside because she kept saying, she kept going on the news and saying, well, you know, Joe Biden is running out of time to make a decision. And then five minutes later, Joe Biden would come on the news and saying, well, you know, Joe Biden is running out of time to make a decision. And then five minutes later, Joe Biden would come on the news and say, I already made a decision. And then she would come back on and say, he really has to make a decision.
Starting point is 00:14:54 So Sunday, July 21st, 11 a.m., Biden drops out. Kamala declares immediately there's 44,000 black women on Zoom raising money. by four o'clock. Tennessee's Democratic Party is the first state delegation to pledge their delegates to her. By 5.30, Charlie XCX tweets the Kamala's brat. So by the end of the day of Monday, Kamala had raised $81 million,
Starting point is 00:15:20 which is the biggest single day fundraising haul in history. And then on Tuesday, JD Vance blows up the race by referring to Kamala Harris as a childless cat lady. And I think when historians look back, this will be the moment that Trump lost because polling suggests that we're in the middle of the biggest gender gap in elections where women overwhelmingly support Harris
Starting point is 00:15:44 and men support Trump. And there's a scientific explanation for that there's a technical term which is that male Trump supporters are bitch ass boys and calling out childless cat ladies is a provocation they have poked the bear because one thing we know about childless cat ladies is that they have time on their hands and can hold a grudge. So now they're swinging into politics. By Wednesday, that same week,
Starting point is 00:16:13 the entire discourse of the election has changed and the serious debate that is convulsing American politics is does JD Vance f*** couches? That was like, it turns out he may not, but we've had to spend a lot of time talking about and answering the question because we believe that the Republican vice presidential nominee at Center for Ohio would be someone who would f*** a couch if that was happening. He hasn't denied f***ing the couch. That speaks volumes of the man and the couch.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I mean, like you said, there's no evidence that Vance has had carnal relations, not just with a couch, but with any piece of soft furnishing. But the fact, as you say, that this has rumbled on for so long is in many ways worse because I guess it shows that vast swathes of the US electorate believe that he is the kind of person who would and the fact that he hasn't. Now that surely suggests NATO that there's quite a high probability that JD Vance has had romantic advances rejected by a couch. And I mean, that's, that's not vice presidential quality, is it really?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah. I want, I want a vice president who knows how to close his deal with the couch. How did this come, this come about? The, um, the couch, I think it was just someone tweeting that in his book, Hillbilly Elegy, on a particular page, he talks about a couch with a rubber glove between the cushions. Oh, I believe not to be part of the text of the book, but I haven't read it. Right. But it was, it was believable enough that everybody ran with it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. And I guess, you know, with novels, it's as much about what you don't write as what you do and you know, the fact that he hasn't written it basically suggests that he was thinking about it. Sure. The list of things that have become... I mean, by the end of the week, the Democrats have settled on this frame about the Republicans, which is to talk about them as creepy and weird. They had been talking about Republicans as being a threat to democracy, but they are like, these guys are just weird. Yes, maybe J.J. Vance did a couch, but he did go on an interview and refer to his children as my wife's children.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I have a question about people trying not to seem weird during election cycles, NATO, because in Britain, politicians will try to eat something in a way that real human beings do it. And so there'll be all these pictures of them eating a sandwich with a knife and fork, or trying to eat a pizza with a straw. Does that happen in the US? Yeah, oh yeah, there's, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:59 well, the JD Vance one that just happened, did you see the donut shop? I've lost track, because there was like Mountain Dew, there was a cheese in Philadelphia. It's a lot of food, food trouble with this guy. That's, that's how you connect with people, I guess, is so yeah, there's, there's this video of, uh, JD Vance going into a donut shop in, I think Georgia and attempting to connect with regular people.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Georgia and attempting to connect with regular people. And as a comic, his behavior is recognizable as like someone, a comic trying to do crowd work and bombing the biggest bomb in the history of bombs. Like, just, you know, have you ever seen a comic do crowd work where they're like, hey, what do you do for a living? Oh, I got nothing. OK, what do you do for a living? OK, I got nothing. OK, what do you do for a living? Oh, I got nothing. Okay. What do you do for a living? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I got nothing. Okay. What do you do for a, okay. I got nothing. It was just, that was his way of connecting with the people at the donut shop is he was, how long have you worked here? And they'd be like, uh, I don't, a while. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:02 My, my favorite example of that. There was one election, uh, in Paul election in 2012, Paul Ryan, the Republican Vice President nominee, staged a big photo op of him connecting with the common man by going into a kitchen and cleaning pots that had already been cleaned. So that's how politicians do it. By the end of that week, Trump is having a rally and he says to a crowd, get out and vote just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, it'll be fixed.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. And everyone freaked out that they thought that meant Trump was going to planning to end elections in America. And first of all, like most Americans vote every two years. It's not like, you know, voting is a huge like, oh, thank God, I don't have to vote once every two years. Like, there's lots of things that I do every less frequently. I have relatives that I see less than every two years. So the, but, uh, that people thought that he had meant that he would end
Starting point is 00:21:11 elections, but he was talking out to Christians. He said, my beautiful Christians, he could, I think he thought that he was going to bring about the rapture. And, uh, as we know, there are no elections in the book of revelations. That's just a translation choice. Who knows what really went on? Did the devil get there undemocratically, who can say? Then he does an interview with the National Association of Black Journalists
Starting point is 00:21:37 and says about Kamala Harris, I don't know what she is, she was Indian and now she's black. And you know, Andy, you know, Bugle co-host, Hari Kondabalu, his brother was in a popular rap group called Dust Racist. And so since then, it reminded me of one of their songs. And since that interview, I've just been going around humming to myself.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I've got a black lady, I've got an Indian lady, I've got a combination black and an Indian lady. So then the following week Robert F. Kenny Jr. explains to Roseanne Barr that he hit a dead bear in Central Park 10 years ago. Uh, and did you, did you catch, did this story reach you? Who was never buried a dead bear in Central Park cast the first stone. Well, it wasn't okay. So the debt, the bear is roadkill. He stops to pick it up. That's not really the weird part.
Starting point is 00:22:43 He's going to save the meat. It's a little bit weird, but he picked it up and then threw it in the back of his car because he didn't want to be late for falconry. He had a busy day of falconry and then went to dinner at a steakhouse that cost $70 a steak. But the weirdest part wasn't hiding the bear in the park. It was hiding a dead bear on a bicycle. There's not much hiding room on a bicycle. To give the impression that the bear had like escaped from the circus and died of the heartache of not having crowds to entertain. And then, and then like, so, you know, the election is,
Starting point is 00:23:32 polling has started starting to shift, huge fundraising, surges in volunteers, and then the VEEP stakes settle out and Kamala Harris picks Tim Walz, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, big Midwestern energy progressive tax record or track progressive track record, former high school teacher and football coach. He's like he's like vice president Ted Lasso. It's really, really crushing the polls. We're seeing a huge lead for Democrats among people who yearn to have been unconditionally
Starting point is 00:24:02 loved by their father. So that's and then we get into the convention. It's been a wild time in America. Are you okay? No. No, I mean, it's been so unpredictable and like all of the energy and like I don't, like I'm somebody who tends to just like, I tend to hate any politician. You know what I mean? Like if it was whoever it is, if I love them, you know, as soon as they got in, I would hate them just on principle.
Starting point is 00:24:33 But like all of the energy and the excitement, enthusiasm, like it's very moving to see how inspired people are by like the turning tides in American politics. People are talking about this joy-based campaign, Beyonce music, pop culture, you know the big Republican line of attack against Kamala Harris is that she laughs too much because she seems fun and can dance. It's all, it's very confusing time. Right, so Robert F. Kennedy Jr., you mentioned, he was standing as an independent,
Starting point is 00:25:11 he's now pulled out and endorsed Donald Trump, which is not traditional Kennedy family behavior, as they are famously not Republicans. But I mean, in terms of Trump's campaign which has been been faltering, could this endorsement of someone who has hidden a bear on a bicycle and then buried it in Central Park, could that really win over those floating voters of people who think bears deserve to die but like them to be buried in major financial centers. Yeah I mean well I think here's the thing is and you've seen this both about Kennedy but also about you know there's some other you know Jill Stein is running as a Green Party candidate again
Starting point is 00:26:01 and and Democrats in particular get really worked up about third party candidates. And as someone who's paid close attention to a lot of elections, people forget, like a lot of that is, there's a limit to how much you can do about that. Do you know what I mean? Anyone who is on the ballot will get some votes. And those votes are not necessarily
Starting point is 00:26:24 based on anything rational or ideological. Just for one example that I keep handy for exactly this conversation, in 2018 there was a Green Party candidate for Congress in Ohio who got 1,000 votes and claimed that he was descended from aliens, that his family, his distant relatives, originally came to planet Earth from the Pleiades star cluster. And that he got a thousand votes and it was a race decided by two thousand votes. So if you have anyone who's on the ballot will get some votes and those votes could be someone likes the name, they don't like the other candidates, they have some philosophical belief, they had a stroke while they were filling out their ballot, they thought it
Starting point is 00:27:05 would be funny. Like, who knows? There's just some, there's a bunch of statistical noise in that. And there was, there was just a Democratic primary race in Arizona that was won by like 36 votes in a congressional race. So I don't think that you can assume that the people who supported Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supported him because he was an anti-vaxxer. These are not deep thinkers. They're not like policy-based optimizers in their political decision. So there's not a lot of rational actor theory at work here.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So I don't think that they're going to sort of necessarily follow the calculation of then going for Donald Trump because RFK said so. They may, they are just as likely to write in as a write-in candidate, COVID-23. CHARLIE It was one story Helen that you picked up on with regard to JD Avant, which is that his supporters are carrying around tubs of semen to express their support for Vance.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah, isn't that adorable? Fan culture producing some surprise results again. It might not be actual semen, Andy, it is not being confirmed what is in the cups that they are carrying or hanging around their necks at MAGA rallies. But they've got a little picture of JD Vance on and the words JD Vance full family kit. And in their minds, it's a diss at people that use fertility treatments, like Tim Walz did, or Mitchell Obama did. Really, it seems like an incredible self-own to me, like how ultra right wingers are like, yeah, I'm not going to eat vegetables. to me, like how ultra right-wingers are like, yeah, I'm not going to eat vegetables. Good for you. Enjoy constipation and malnutrition. Maybe it is his genuine ceiling.
Starting point is 00:29:13 You thought tea towels were good merch. I still do, actually. I'm thinking they're even better merch all the time. Right. Yeah, I mean, it is one of the weirder things, even in the catalogue of craziness the Well, yeah, well, I think we should just retire the word because because Generally comes before something you don't want to hear because you're still clinging to a vestige of hope for your species Or it comes before something that is patently wrong or it just presages the words Just because so I think this story is exemplified. We we have to stop looking for reasons for things happening Yeah, they're just yes ending it they think JD They think JD Vance and Jizz, and they're like, yes, and, gonna make my own Jizz cups and wear them.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And here's what they're missing. Look, so I have 16-year-old twins. We went through infertility treatments. It's a horrible experience. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. The only good thing about infertility treatments is medically assisted masturbation. You get to go to a doctor's office and jack off under the supervision of medical professionals with evidence-based supplies available.
Starting point is 00:30:42 So of all the things that they're going to knock about infertility, they're making fun of literally the best part of infertility. Well, we will of course have full world exclusive coverage of the final 70 odd days of the American election to see whether Donald Trump, the sex pest fraudster, delusion monger, tantrum thrower and Hannibal Lector fan can win over floating voters. I mean that seems like a collection of character traits that ought not to work, but this is America we're talking about. Harris pledged a new way forward at the Democratic convention and I guess the problem for her is that the old way backwards has generally been quite hard to beat in American politics
Starting point is 00:31:25 But anyway, we will have full coverage over the next few weeks All other world news and there's only one place to begin Helen you are our dead penguin correspondent and The world's famous play. Yes, the world's most famous gay peng, Sven, has sadly passed away in Australia. He's waddled off to the great penguin enclosure in the sky where the herring grow on trees and the ice grows naturally into the shape of a bobsled run that plunks you into the sweet salty sea at thrilling speeds after you slide down on your penguin tom-tom and he's passed away at the age of 12. A very sad moment for penguins the universe over. Yeah, he died of natural causes, that's some comfort, no foul play. But Sven was famous around the world for being in a six year relationship with magic, another male penguin,
Starting point is 00:32:25 and gay penguins actually very common. Gay animals are extremely common. And people would love to pretend. Thanks to the woke lobby. There weren't any until what? 15 years ago, Max. Yeah, they're just bandwagon jumping. But the unusual thing aboutern and Magic's relationship was that they co-parented and they would take turns to take care of their eggs. They raised two children together. They divided up the roles of going to seek food. The way that penguins woo each other is with song. Gentoo penguins, which Sphern and Magic were, also collect pebbles and present them
Starting point is 00:33:06 to each other to build a nest with. It's kind of symbolic. And also because they can't really go shopping for other wooing gifts. After Sven died, Magic burst into the morning song of a penguin and all the other penguins joined, which apparently is much more unusual. And magic is still collecting pebbles suggesting magic is open for a new partner already, which is fast, but grief does yeah, different things to people. Let's not judge that. Let's not judge that at all. Yes, I mean, when Sven penged his last, he said when it was, it was a very moving magic burst into mournful
Starting point is 00:33:42 songs supported by the rest of the penguins, haunting acapella renditions of penguin classics such as I'm So Lonesome I Could Honk, Waddle Me To The Moon, Krilling Me Softly, and Top of the Round My Mind, and subterranean haunted herrings. So the Gen 2 penguins, so that's because I know we have we have sort of Gen X, Gen Z, so it's Gen 1 and Gen 2 with penguins, so these are more modern penguins with more sort of you know open lifestyles. Yeah they've got Bluetooth. Yeah it's um when it's been you know it's the love that dared not speak its name or the love that could not speak its name because the two lovers were penguins and didn't have
Starting point is 00:34:23 the capacity to speak but it has really captured the imagination of the world, this relationship, showing everyone that maybe as a planet we become more accepting of relationships that would once have been scorned and shamed, particularly if the participants in those relationships are penguins. Is it participating in the kill your gays trope though? Because that is a problematic one in popular culture. If you show a gay couple you have to kill one of them. Oh right. So still progress to be made. Yes, they're very much the Achilles and Patroclus of the Sydney Aquarium Penguilliad. They stayed together through six difficult years in the penguin community as the renownedly flightless species had to negotiate COVID, global warming and its disastrous impacts
Starting point is 00:35:07 on penguin property prices and accusations that penguins are not actually flightless but just lazy. So it was a difficult time to be in a same-sex penguin relationship. As you say, they co-parented two penguins, Lara and Clancy, who were named, of course, respectively after Sven's favorite West Indian cricketer and Magic's favorite Cold War spy novelist. And the two young penguins were reportedly literally speechless after the death of Sven. Burglary news now and this was a story that caught my eye. A burglar in Rome was foiled after he became distracted whilst burgling a flat by a book about Homer's Iliad, which he saw on a bedside table, picked up and started reading mid-burglary. The occupant of the property woke up and confronted the Homer-obsessed burglar,
Starting point is 00:36:21 who despite frantic efforts to build a decoy horse out of bits of wood was apprehended by the by the police. I mean it's I mean he needs to try harder that's for sure he's useless as a burglar but anyway it's um I guess it's a good lesson for everyone isn't it that you know that it's very very dangerous to study ancient Greek literature you know it took me four years at university to work that out. But I mean, it's really a very, very risky thing to do in many situations, I think. Yeah, because in any of the reports, I have not seen evidence that this person was actually a burglar. It just seems like they broke into someone's flat and started reading. Which is just breaking and reading, isn't it? That's not burglary. If it was a burglar,
Starting point is 00:37:10 he would have stolen the book and read it later. I guess so. They're a thief of knowledge. He also said that he was trying to break into someone else's flat or into a B&B, but then saw the book and got the thought the book belonged to the B&B that he thought he'd broken into and had a read. And I guess we'll let the Italian call system be the judge of these things. But I guess it is quite an interesting new angle in home security, because we see all
Starting point is 00:37:40 these adverts trying to make you paranoid about home security and all the products that you can have to make your home more secure. But if it's as simple as just leaving an interesting looking book in every room, surely that's going to be a huge step forward for... What book do you think would be most likely to distract a burglar? Oh, Valley of the Dolls. Oh, right. That is the ultimate trash read.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Very compelling. Just leave a copy outside and they don't even have to break a window to read it. Oh, Valley of the Dolls. Oh, right. That is the ultimate trash read. Very compelling. Just leave a copy outside and they don't even have to break a window to read it. Right. I actually have a book that I leave out on our coffee table just to distract people. And the book is called Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism. Well, there you go. And have you ever had your house burgled?
Starting point is 00:38:30 No, because people just show up and read the book and then they leave. There we go. Committed to the revolution. Yeah. I don't know how many copies that book has sold, but there should be one in every house on this, on this planet. I mean, I'm going to say something on polar exploration with lavish illustrations. I think that would be... Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Confusingly, when I used to work in a bookshop, the windows would get broken quite regularly, but people wouldn't steal anything, even though a lot of the books in the windows were worth hundreds of pounds. Right. So why did they break the windows? Just shits and giggles? Maybe. Maybe they were pressing their faces up to the glass so firmly to look at the books that the glass could not hold. Was it in that bookshop, Helen, that you bought the book that you gave to me entitled Through England on My Knees, a Brass Rubbing Odyssey? It seems likely, Andy, because that bookshop was very close to our hometown, Tunbridge Wells's brass rubbing centre, which lately, which is now a nightclub.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah. Have you read it? Brass Rubbing Centres have gone the same way. It's much harder to have a Brass Rubbing Odyssey these days. It's quicker. I mean, it is one of the greatest book titles ever. Through England on my Knees, a Brass Rubbing Odyssey. Particularly just because of Through England on my Knees opens up so many possibilities of what the book might be about
Starting point is 00:39:45 I assume they were doing that to be provocative, but I could be wrong They could have just been factual about the nature of brass robbing Poisoning news now, um Helen you're um, I mean you've long been obsessed with poison The I mean, you've long been obsessed with poison. Sure. And why not? Yes, I was in fact. The famous actor Alicia Silverstone attempted to poison herself in London and ate some random piece of fruit as you do asked on social media what it was. And it turns out it was dead lily poisonous, other than not being deadly.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, I mean, you say random fruit, as if she had just popped by a greengrocer and picked something up. She was filming herself walking around, and she did what every parent will tell their child not to do, which is pluck a berry off a bush that they couldn't identify. And she was like, oh, what's this? And popped it in her mouth. And it turned out to be Solanum Pseudocapsicum, which is a nightshade. Um, and then she went quiet on social media for a bit and people were like, Oh no, oh no. She has now popped up to say that she's fine, or at least alive and well.
Starting point is 00:41:01 She didn't necessarily say fine. Who knows how this will play out in the future. Anyway, don't do it, kids. Yeah. Has she pledged to steer away from it? Just wild foraging of berries or not? I'll just say she picked it saying, Oh, is this a tomato? And then she ate it.
Starting point is 00:41:23 And then she was like, well, it's definitely not a tomato because of the leaves. And that might've been a deduction to make before eating it. Yes, I guess so. How many places in London are growing tomatoes out front? I'll answer that. Not many, not many NATO. You don't have a lot of found fruit harvesting expeditions in London? Blackberries, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Everything else do not. And blackberries also only above dog urination height. Finally, on our poison section, Denmark had banned some South Korean noodles due to being dangerously spicy. That ban has now been overturned, provoking joy in Denmark's spicy noodle eating community. What a day for them. What a glorious day, Andy. It's a partial unbanning. Some flavours had been banned before, and a few of them have been unbanned, but some of them are still considered too spicy, too dangerous
Starting point is 00:42:21 for the Danes. Too much capsaicin content. I mean, they say it can poison consumers, but I haven't heard about a lot of Korean people dying from eating overly spicy noodles from a packet. I mean, it makes you think, you know, what is the decline of Denmark over the last, what, 1200 years? I mean, they used to cross the Atlantic in homemade boats, these people, and now they're worried about eating an excessively spicy instant noodle. And I think that's, you know, I mean, many, many countries are struggling with identity, but I think Denmark may be more than more than any other.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I don't understand. Is the noodle spicy or is there sauce on the noodle that's spicy? Well, you know, it's like a packet ramen. So you could probably cook it without any flavoring, but if you're adding the flavorsome parts, then it gets spicy. But as revenge, Korea confiscates Trader Joe's Everything Bagel Seasoning at customs because poppy seeds are designated as a narcotic.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Oh, really? So we've all got different standards. Right. I guess that shows why we'll never achieve world peace if we have these arguments about poppy seeds and spicy noodles. US still carries a hefty fine if you smuggle in a Kinder Surprise. I think it's like a thousand or two thousand dollars. Really? Yeah. Don't do it. It's too risky. Well that brings us to the end of this week's Resumption Bugle. Next week we'll catch up on
Starting point is 00:43:57 the other news that we've missed over the last few weeks, including some riots action. An unusually active riot season here in the UK that didn't show the nation in its best light and then some counter riots that showed it in a much better light. Right Helen, plug the remaining tours of your Illusionist tour. Thank you Andy. Yes the Illusionist is touring the UK for the next few weeks. The show is called Souvenirs. It's a a good time not a sad time there's some excellent merch and the dates are at the illusionist.org events don't forget to buy your tickets to my forthcoming stand-up tour the Zoltgeist beginning on the 1st of November all dates at andyzoltzman.co.uk or
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