The Bugle - Just 1460 Days To Go!

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

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The Bugle, audio newspaper for a visual world. Hello Buglers and welcome to issue 4328 of The Bugle, audio newspaper for a visual world with me, Andes Zoltzman. It is the 20th of January 2025. It is 5pm UK time, midday Washington DC time and as we record in Washington DC, I don't know, someone somewhere is having a bath, a dog is maybe chasing a stick in the park, a kid is watching Sesame Street, there's a bench somewhere, a guy is learning how to play the F-Shop, caught on his guitar, two grandmothers are signing up for an online wrestling course, a worm is trying to chat itself, I just don't want to think about anything

else that might be happening in DC right now. Joining me to talk about how lovely the trees look at this time of year, the best temperature for hot chocolate, and whether a packet of spaghetti is better than a bunch of flowers, and other such topics. Firstly, from San Francisco, resplendent in a bugle, bobble hat, it's Nato Green. Hello, Nato. Hello, Andy. Hello, buglers. Andy, I feel like I should just start with an update. The last time I was on in November, I said in the context of a bit that I might have cancer. And it was at the time true that I might have had, but a lot of buglers wrote to me and said, are you okay? So I had a biopsy, I had a prostate biopsy and I don't know if you realize this, but, and I didn't realize it until it was

happening to me, but a biopsy is where they cut out part of your body from the inside and take it out and so I the good news is that I ended up I don't have cancer the bad news is that now I have to engage with the world so but one of the as with the side effects of the, of the biopsy, they said, there might be some blood in your shit piss and come for a while. And so, uh, let's, I don't want to be too graphic, but Andy, let's say, let's just say that I put the butt in abattoir. The, um, on Christmas night, I called my hospital frantically.

I said, is my bathroom supposed to look like a crime scene in Dexter? Because it's American healthcare, they said to have more fluids. So I don't have cancer. I've stopped bleeding for the moment. Things are, I've started 2025 on a good note. Thank you, Buglers, for your concern and your messages of compassion. In my personal life, at the limits of my own skin, things are not getting worse immediately. That's the best I have.

A message of hope for all America at this difficult time. That's great news, Nathan. Also joining us from here in London, it's Tiffany Stevenson. Hello, Tiff. Hello. I'm joining you from the chilly enclave of Muswell Hill, which has been without, this is my peeve. I haven't had to go any, have any horrifying checkups. So, but I haven't had gas for nine days,

which is unusual in this house, because normally plenty of gas from me. But yes, there was water got into the gas pipe. So a whole section of North London is sort of without gas. So I've been working from the bed with my husband, like grandma Josephine and Grandpa Bucket. We're just in the bed with the duvets pulled up to our chin trying to keep warm and drinking hot chocolate which you did mention. And I genuinely googled, this is how tragic I am

yesterday, can you just heat up chocolate milk because we had some chocolate milk and I wanted and I was like can you just heat that up in the microwave and does it become hot chocolate? And it turns out it does. Well, there we go. So we started with two good news stories on the bugle. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that run is going to continue. Yeah. If all chocolate can be hot chocolate, if you make it hot enough.

Yes. hot chocolate if you make it hot enough. Yes. We are recording on the 20th of January, as I said, on this day, or the 21st of January in 2021, 2013, 2009, 2005, 2001, 1997, 93, 89, 85, 81, 77, 73, 69, 65, 61, 57, 53, 49, 8985 8177 7369 65 6157 5349 45 41 and 37 a less stomach-churning US presidential inauguration was taking place and in some of those years that is saying something also on this day in 13 billion BC the Big Bang happened according to new research and the state of the universe now really shows how sometimes a soft rollout is better than a hard launch as always a section of the bugle is going straight in the bin this week how to get fit using only existential despair and collective guilt of the failures of civilization and also our bugle young peace broker of the year awards for any missions under the age of 60 you can enter the young peace

broker of the war just complete the following sentence I think everyone everywhere should learn to get along because dot dot dot and you need to finish that and no fewer than 3.2 million words plus supporting graphs and maps with some hastily drawn British lines on do send them into the bugle London those sections in the bin Top story this week. Yes, it is re inauguration day is the two parallel Americas rejoice stroke quiver at what America is doing to itself. We are recording as I said, as the inauguration is taking place in Washington DC, 5pm UK, 9am San Francisco and native I will admit, I wasn't going to watch it anyway For various reasons one because I want to be able to look at my children in the eye with at least a vague scintilla of hope

For humanity partially discernible in my face Too because there's some sports on later And I didn't want to have to watch it through a coating of vomit on my TV screen Three because what's the fucking point for because if it turns out to be really good I can just watch Trump being inaugurated again in another four years time, in another eight years time. Five, because I'm too busy writing down a list of all the reasons to be hopeful for America and the world. I've set myself a target of two things,

and I'm currently, let me just top them up, too short of that goal. So, even though we're recording during the inauguration, I wouldn't be watching it anyway. What about, how are you enjoying, well, I don't know if any, are either of you currently watching it as we're recording?

No, I'm not. I'm not watching. I'm not going to watch the I would describe Andy the mood in America as miserable and dejected. The the thing about it's so infuriating that the thing about the right is that they don't even seem to enjoy winning. They seem as mad and miserable to be winning as they do when they're losing. And the contrast to eight years ago when Trump was around the first inauguration 2017 is quite striking because

You know, I remember like when you know, there was all of this, you know Oh the the Electoral College will stop him. Oh, no, they won't the you know that they won't certify the election Oh, they will the the media will hold him to account. Oh, they're not they're not gonna do that at all The courts will constrain it. Oh another they're not gonna do that at all. The courts will constrain, oh no, that's not gonna happen actually. So the civil servants in the government bureaucracy will limit his worse, no, no, that's not happening either. I mean, it was just like one after another

of realizing that our entire apparatus rests of realizing that our entire apparatus rests on someone just respecting some basic norms that are fundamentally unenforceable. Do you ever have the experience where you're in a car park and you're waiting for a parking space and someone comes in and takes the parking space and then you want to drone strike their entire family. And then you realize that there's no higher authority that will enforce the social norms around queuing for a parking space. That's kind of how American democracy works at this point. And to give you a sense of my of my neighborhood where I live in San

Francisco, uh, I live in a neighborhood called Bernal Heights. Uh, my block voted for Kamala Harris by 91%. Um, so, and, and seven of the remaining, uh, 9%, uh, it was those people were, uh, literally having a stroke when they were filling out their ballot. So there are there are fewer Trump voters in my neighborhood than people with HPV. So it's a hill, so it's a steep very steep hill, narrow streets and then at the top of the hill is a park with a gorgeous panoramic view of the city you should come visit.

And so up in the neighborhood on the telephone poles this weekend, signs went up, inviting the entire neighborhood to assemble at the top of the hill right now for a collective primal scream. So that's what's going on in my neighborhood right now for a collective primal scream. So that's what's going on in my neighborhood right now. It might filter through. I did all the anger and jokes last time around, like this time I think he's going to nail it. I think he'll be fine if he gets the right crystals. We're just going to girly him and JD Vance through this presidency. Like he's a Gemini gal. He's just going to be hot yoga, Stanley cups at press

briefings, manifesting executive orders, you know, scheduling a pumpkin spice latte session with Rubio to talk about why China and India are being bitches. And he's going to try and make himself look popular by giving back the kids their TikTok, you know, before falling out with Bestie Musk over H1B visas and having to go back to the vision board, which is like the drawing board for girlies. I mean, the world has seen some unwanted sequels in its time, a certain form of bugle co-hosts could probably testify, but Trump versus everything America once claimed to

stand for too, was not particularly appetizing and It's still I just still can't quite get my head around how it's happened at NATO. Essentially. This is you know, America basically the chickens Enthusiastically welcoming the Fox back into the coop saying at last someone who understands our needs and will govern in our interests Yeah I mean it's it's it's an especially depressing time to be a political comic because I'm already being reminded of the feeling like as a political comic, Trump is a speed up of my job. Uh, like if this, if this were an assembly line, the political comics would be losing

their fingers. Um, and so it's just like this endless fire hose of shit. It's like, like I started, I started writing and preparing for today's show. And by the time I went to sleep, there was, there was a news story about a Trump crypto scam that was underway. And I was like, I can't be bothered.

Like I just, I need, it's going to be a long 37 years of the Trump Reich and I have to pace myself. Uh, I have to space out these jokes. And I mean, what's comforting to me in this moment is I can go back to my natural state, which is hating the democratic party, uh, as, as a Democrat, hating the democratic party, like I, Andy I Andy you like I think I was on You know in the early days of the Harris campaign when we had though I had about Maybe a week and a half of hope

That's a personal best isn't it? It was a record. Yeah, and And and you know of my lifelong commitment to voting for Democrats while hating the Democrats. And I guess this is what sports fans feels like when you're yelling at the screen, you know, he's open or whatever, except in my case, the opposing team is trying to win and my team is just, I guess, stretching while they run out the clock before they go to brunch. Um, so.

Well, I was gonna, I was gonna say, are they gonna do that? Or they're just gonna wait out because it just seems to be everyone. I mean, in both sides, it seems to be everyone at the upper enchilons of like, the sphere are like octogenarians. I presume that's why they've moved the inauguration indoors today, because they literally might freeze to death. It's minus 13. They're like, they've've even got Nelly to sing his hot in here in order to try and get Bill Walmart. I didn't know if you knew that Nelly was booked but apparently there's a country singer Jason Aldean,

the village people at the Liberty inaugural ball, one of three official balls marking Trump's return to office. Unlike Hitler who only had one official ball, this one dictator has three. What's interesting though, the performers at the inauguration, you say the village people said yes, Elton John said no, I wasn't asked but would have said maybe but only if I can do my joke about Donald Trump and the sexy pumpkin. And the village people defended their appearance, they said their song YMCA is a global anthem that hopefully helps bring the country together after a tumultuous and divided campaign where our preferred candidates lost and When if there is one thing America has not voted for it is for national healing

That is the absolute opposite of what that vote was about and also if you're going to choose one 70s disco classic to Was about and also if you're going to choose one 70s disco classic to represents modern America I don't know bearing in mind who's going to be at the inauguration. We've got Zuckerberg musk and Bezos Maybe don't stop till you get enough more more more the hustle or I feel nothing. Sorry. I feel love So I'm always forgetting the tennis angle on that one But I mean it is so the fact that Zuckerberg, Bezos and Musk, I don't know what the collective noun is for tech plutocrats. Is it a grovel, a betrayal, a shit brigade, a polyp, an objection or a projectile diarrhea?

I forget but there's definitely some terms for... I think a conspiracy of geeks. We need to go back to calling them geeks because they keep calling themselves disruptors, you know, like and that's their model and that's why they voted for Trump, Trump, you know, we're disruptors, we're disruptors. Let's go back to calling them nerds and geeks and being really mean to them because I think phrasing them has got us nowhere. Yes. I mean in terms of Trump as a disruptor as well, I mean he's already seems to have announced a deluge of instant measures to further

up to as well I mean he's already seems to have announced a deluge of instant measures to further in the USA and its neighboring countries. And as the old saying goes, if you want to make an omelette, you have to whack the chicken in the face with a sledgehammer then hurl a frying pan at a praying nun and urinate into the paddling pool. So that's, you know, it's all it's all starting again. I mean, it's still a bit odd for me that he's not in jail after his sentence to zero minutes in jail on the little known 34 strikes and you're not out regulation. Um, it, it, let's, let's not forget Andy that it not only is it inauguration day,

but it's also the Martin Luther King holiday, which is so like beyond, it's like an affront to the idea of irony. Um, and it really recalls to mind the Martin Luther King quote, the arc of history is long, but it bends towards justice. I would like to respectfully request of the Reverend Dr. King to hurry it up a bit. Um, it's, uh, yeah, the grade on that bend towards justice is

really, it's so imperceptible as a bend that it looks like a flat line sometimes. Dr. King celebrated progress towards civil rights and today we are inaugurating a man who single handedly makes the argument against the innate superiority of the white race. His guy, Steve Bannon, is a white supremacist. Supreme is such a strong term, not even like white people are fine too, I guess. Steve Bannon looks like a toilet in Los Angeles after being ravaged by the wildfires in that he's cracked, blistered, white and filled with shit. It looks like a drop pasty.

Yeah. I think, Tim, I think they had to move inside because it was too cold. And this is the gang that wants to restore traditional masculinity where men are men only between four and 20 degrees Celsius. Yeah, tough it out guys. You should be Wim Hofman. You should be doing special breathing through the entire inauguration, which will be interesting when they get, when he gets sworn in that for me, I, you see, cause in America you, you say curse, but I like the idea to be literally sworn in like for sake

Well, it's a swearing and there's a swearing at and they both generally happen at around about the same time You know what when Trump will basically bring provocation resentment egotism spiting competence delusion enmity nastiness temper Insincerity acrimony and laziness, but you put it all together, you have the unfortunate acronym, presidential. But that is the world that we now live in, sadly, where unelectability is the new electability, wrong is the new right, fury is the new forgiveness, and treasonous destruction of the pillars of democracy is the new patriotism. But strange time. I guess one positive to come out of today so far is conclusive proof of the non-existence of God which Heal some divisions around the world because Donald Trump arrived at st. John's Church in Washington DC

with his wife for a service ahead of the inauguration and Nothing nothing from the big man Not a thunderbolt from the heavens not even a darkening of the skies or the sun blotted out by a swarm of rabid pheasants or a rending of the ground or a spontaneous melting of stained glass windows before they reconfigure into a picture of Jesus vomiting uncontrollably into a bucket of weeping puppies or even a voice from the heavens saying, come on, this is getting ridiculous now. Nothing, nothing. So at last we know God definitely doesn't exist. Well, speaking of unelected people Liz Truss is in Washington. You know what's red white and blue and looks like a c*** it's Truss in her

MAGA hat. I mean she's really she's really got in on the grift of I think she was she's been attending a lot of the rallies and conferences and telling everyone about a Liberty Bell showerhead Which has probably been cracked and I'm not gonna say how But yeah, she's she's out there representing what I don't know, but she's there Liz trust is just getting about because she was also at the fringe this year. I don't know if you know this NATO But Liz turns out to do a show at the Edinburgh Fringe. Yeah, because she knows all about doing a five week run and losing a ton of money. The only great figure of British politics in the US

for the integration Nigel Farage and pretty Patel apparently also there the sad scraping from the rotting bottom of the British political barrel Um, but but it's interesting to see how British politicians are changing their tune on trump david lambie the foreign secretary who previously Has described uh described donald trump as a woman hating neo-nazi sociopath. Uh this week described trump as gracious and generous And very friendly before going on to describe his pet halibut morris as a bone dry quadruped with a sonorous singing voice and biceps you would kill for He said let me explain his change of approaching. I have said the approach has got to be progressive realism And obviously human history shows there's always a fine line between progressive realism and regressive delusionism Um, and he added you meet the world as it is, not as you would wish

it to be. And personally, I just prefer not to meet the world at all right now. Me and the world are on a break. I might start sleeping with other worlds. I think that's interesting. It sort of touches upon the thing that Dave Chappelle said on SNL, which is like, they voted for you now, please just try and do your best. Which is you know, maybe an attitude that people are taking of like going, well now how do we, we can rage about this, or how do we move forward and how do we protect the things that we think need protecting and the stuff that we hold dear and hope that he might do some good with his presidency?

Yeah, I mean, why not? Yeah, like you're not buying it. I'm not entirely buying it. I guess we can hope that. Similarly, I hope that one day I will win an Olympic medal in synchronized diving. We mustn't abandon hope, no matter how unrealistic it seems at the time. He's tapped up Mel Gibson, Sylvester Stallone and John Voight to be his ambassadors in Hollywood. All the young dudes. Yeah, is

Joe McCarthy still dead? Can they not just get him back to sort Hollywood out again? Mel Gibson apparently is working on The Passion of the Christ 2, there's another sequel. More passiony. Yeah, subtitled Zombie Jesus and the Donkey of Vengeance, which could be a sensational film. One of the instant results of Donald Trump rebecoming president is that TikTok, it's a long aching ban from America which lasted literally hours, is back online apparently. I don't know, long term whether the ban will stand seems unlikely. Tiff, you are our American social

media correspondent, just bring us up to date with exactly what's going on. Yeah. I mean, it's literally less than 24 hours, uh, since the morning, uh, the American morning for tick tock. Um, you know, we'd only just had the eulogy. I mean, what could I say about this plucky Chinese upstart that launched a thousand dancing healthcare workers and gave terrible contraceptive advice to millions of young women. It was beautiful actually to watch the funeral cortege of mourners

dabbing and it was very touching to see celebrities such as Tom Brady and Jack Black recreate the wet ass pussy dance as a drone display, spelt out RIP CapCut in the sky. That was a very emotional moment, I choked up during that. You know, Jimmy Carter's funeral, the Secret Service accompanied him on his way to be sort of interned, I think. And at the TikTok funeral, 10 influencers live streamed, get ready with me from inside the hearse. So that was, that was a really nice moment. I lip synced the service on my TikTok, because obviously we were still able to use it here. So then I followed it up with a very long explainer about how none of us really work for ourselves when we're at the mercy of social media platforms and arbitrary algorithms. Also,

I don't know how to fix any of this. So please click to subscribe. How do we fix it? How do we fix it? I mean, it feels now, now that the TikTok has had a reprieve, it feels very much like this was set up to kind of curry favor, I guess, that Trump, it makes him look very cool, doesn't it? For the TikTok, because I was literally seeing videos of people crying, going, I've lost my entire income. You know, TikTok is my, this has given me a career. It's how I do all of my stuff. And it does frighten me as someone who's on,

sort of not really on Facebook as much, but is on all the other various platforms, like as a way to get audiences to the show. And my job seems to be now as much as anything else is providing clip, need clip, want clip, want clip, like one minute 30 of trying to cram an entire you know 16 17 year career of stand-up into one minute 30 or 90 second bursts in order to beg people to come out and pay money to see you live. It's totally fine, it's totally fine, that's why I got into this but yes it does make me wonder the ability to be able to sort of snatch that away. Um, but like I say, it does kind of all feel a bit set up now because isn't the founder of TikTok at the inauguration in the tech bro tranche.

So, um, so it feels like it's, you know, even the announcement was like, thank you to the work of president Donald Trump. We're back. I mean, even Jesus, they dead longer than TikTok. I asked my kids how their friends were preparing for it and, uh, how they felt about it, my kids aren't big TikTok users, but their friends are. And they said that their classmates were installing Red Note, the Chinese version of TikTok and literally learning Mandarin.

So there's an upside. Yeah, but Trump's going to say he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for getting billions of American children to learn Mandarin. He'll take credit for that. Let's stay in America now for an update on the Los Angeles fires and exactly who is to blame. Now, obviously, NATO, this is your home state, all qualified and respected scientists know that the LA fires have been caused by

Californian voters in November, passing Proposition 3, a constitutional amendment that enshrined the right to same-sex marriage in the state constitution, thus bringing the vengeance of the Lord onto California. Obviously, we assumed it would be another earthquake, maybe a spontaneous volcano, maybe a plague of feral squirrels, maybe even a career-ending soup-drinking injury for LA Dodgers superstar Shohei Otani. We knew the divine retribution would come, we just weren't sure how, but it's come obviously in the form of these fires.

But some people are looking around for other sources of blame for this. Los Angeles has multiple major fires underway and it's a catastrophe. Lots of people have been displaced. Lots of people have lost homes, including actually members of my family. People are rebuilding their lives. But Trump is on the case and he blames the smelt. That is, Trump has announced that the reason that there are fires is that Gavin Newsom is not sending Southern California enough water because he was saving the water to protect the habitat of the smelt, which is a small fish that you might eat fried. And it's surprising that Trump would wage war on the smelt because of how

much he likes fried food. I was going to say because of the dealt. Because normally the one who smelt it dealt it. So Trump thinks it's the fish. Generally, there's also been a whole line of argument that the Los Angeles Fire Chief is a lesbian, the first lesbian fire chief. And so that the reason for the fires is the wokeness. So it's not climate change, it's not systematic defunding

of public services infrastructure, or the decision to keep rebuilding communities in fire zones, despite Malibu having burned down repeatedly over many years. Nope, it's the lesbian fire chief and their cause for her resignation despite union support. There was one analyst who said in the news that she wasn't, quote, ready for prime time, which refers to the time in television with which the most expected audience for advertising purposes, also obviously the form of time that could

only be divided by itself and the number one. And so she might not be ready for prime time, but we live in age of streaming. And so who thinks about prime time anymore? It's such a 90s question. Really the question is, is she bingeable? And I think she is. So her name is the fire chief's name is Crowley. And I want to I want to just briefly recap her resume so we can determine if this was a failure of wokeness to let this unqualified lesbian run the fire department. Bill Maher said that was what Bill Maher said is, was she the best candidate or was she the best lesbian candidate? As though those two things were mutually exclusive. So she was hired in 2022.

And they were worried that the implication in Mar's comment is that lesbians are less qualified, but come on, who knows more about moisture and friction than lesbians. So here's her background. Crowley is a 22 veteran of the LA Fire Department. This is according to the announcement when they appointed her Fire Chief. Chief Crowley has proven her credibility and character by promoting through the ranks. She served as a firefighter, paramedic, engineer, fire inspector, Captain 1, Captain 2, Battalion

Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, captain two, battalion chief, assistant chief, deputy chief, chief deputy, and fire chief. Now the part of this that I'm personally most upset about is learning the hard way that in the LA fire department, deputy chief and chief deputy are different jobs. She also served nine years as a battalion commander. That, that sounds like a lot to me. That sounds like someone who's highly qualified for the position objectively. But to be fair, what do I know? I'm not qualified to evaluate the qualifications of someone to be a fire chief. So,

Nato, how can you be a fire chief and not like the hoes? Nato, how can you be a fire chief and not like the hoes? Hey-o! Hey-o! I would argue that DEI is not selecting a 20-year fire department veteran to be a chief, a fire chief who also happens to be a lesbian. DEI is allowing random white men on the internet whose entire knowledge of firefighting comes from watching backdraft to weigh in on the qualifications of the fire department. That's DEI for you. Also, I wonder if she's related to Alistair Crowley, in which case she would know about

hellfire and how to deal with it. It's bizarre, isn't it? As soon as the sort of fires happened there was an instant sort of influx of wellness influences who there's no doubt. A dance as old as time itself. Yeah like in the wake of the fires selling tinctures, supplements, essential oils for smoke inhalation and as we all know like oil is an accelerant for fire. Maybe they hope to calm that with the raw milk they were also offering up. I just wanna know if they're doing this for fires, what are they gonna do for us in army?

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Just use the code TWISTER15 when you check out. I mean, it does show, I mean, once again, that the term John Oliver used on the bugle many years ago, catastrophitunity, the opportunity to profit from disaster. Look at the state of the environment in the global economy. Exploiting the victims of natural disasters might be one of the few growth industries over coming decades, along with green tech companies that can turn hypocrisy into electricity, makers of padded headbands, there's gonna be a huge increase in

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sustainable lady orchards, which can make you recover up to 12 times as quickly from a disappointing snooze. So all available via the Bugle website. Ceasefire news now and well so far as we record the ceasefire is holding. That's I think now more than eight minutes. My optimismometer is flickering above the 0.01 percent which may be naive of me I mean if the fact that it even got this far I guess is is positive Benjamin Netanyahu had accused him out of reneging on the deal before the deal even even began but some hostages have have been released under a rather complicated scheme that over the next six weeks will will hopefully not see further atrocities and tragedies. NATO, am I right to have a few flickerings of partial hope? Look, I'm a huge fan of peace,

harmony, global stability, human happiness and shit like that. And I know being a fan of that kind of stuff is like supporting a really bad sports team, as you mentioned earlier on. You know realistically you're never going to win at the highest level, but you still support it because you love it. You grew up with it. Your parents got you into it. No matter how logically you accept that it's going to bring you more disappointment than joy, you just can't change sides and starts avoiding war, misery and division. So, um, uh, what's, you also are wearing all the uniform and the kid.

Because I'm in history, that endless source of grumpy and disappointment that it is suggests that after deals like this, the words and they all lived happily ever after don't always follow immediately. So how are you seeing it right now? First of all, like obviously this, the way what happened is that, I mean, there were all these reports over the last several months that Trump was communicating directly with Netanyahu. And so Trump and Netanyahu clearly worked out an agreement to hold out on the ceasefire until after Trump won, knowing that this issue was a huge liability for Biden in getting

reelected. And so Netanyahu got what he wanted, which is to be a f***ing bastard, and for a few months longer and Trump wanted to find out whether Israel could do anything that would be an actual red line for Biden and there was not. Biden would rather let Trump blow up the entire world than withhold a single tank shell. There was all these calls on Biden to cut off military aid to Israel that was presented in the name of Israel defending itself. And I looked, I was curious to see what was the actual military aid that was being supplied.

And it was air to air missiles, because everyone knows that Hamas has a lot of top gun, red baron, fighter aces that need to be taken down. So Netanyahu immediately said, quote, if we must return to fighting, we will do it in new forceful ways, as opposed to the unforceful ways that they've been doing over the last year and a half. The new ways of fighting, it feels like they've been doing over the last year and a half. I don't what the new ways of fighting. It feels like they've really covered the waves. They've been pretty exhaustive, like roast battle, styrofoam swords. What are we talking about?

Please not a roast battle. Please not. Yeah, that's the lowest form of civilization. The ceasefire began Sunday and immediately Israel killed 23 people in Gaza. So it's a ceasefire in the same way that I'm doing dry January, which is that it's January 20th and I've had seven drinks. So it's technically not dry, just more dry than the month before, which is not saying

much and I feel like I'm making a sacrifice and deprived of something that makes me happy, even though it's objectively good for me to do it. I thought dry January meant no lube. Just raw dog in it. The release hostages were also given goodie bags, apparently I was reading that including gifts and souvenirs and certificates, commemorating their time in captivity photographs of their time and a map of Gaza which I think might be the weirdest thing that has happened in human history. No genuinely I thought you were making that up. No no it was on one genuinely on a news site um apparently they were given essentially goodie bags like you get when you

leave a children's party as a child. Maybe like fluids and IV drip a check for Hamas is doing better at merch than the bugle. Oh dear. That's a low bar. That is a very, I would like to say I'm very grateful for my bugle mug that I received in the post. Then Yahoo said that he'd sort of changed the face of the Middle East, that's what he claimed to have, and I guess he has in the way that the Bride of Wildenstein changed their face, you know, by taking something that was recognisable as a face and then completely destroying it. Yeah, I mean, disappointingly, neither Netanyahu nor Hamas have announced their resignations neither has issued a statement saying we acknowledge that the time is now right to step aside and allow someone who actually wants the

best for the people they purport to represent to have a crack at leadership but I guess we can't expect everything at once nor has the UN announced that in addition to a ceasefire a cease history has has been launched where no one is allowed to know anything that has ever happened in the past in the region and without that it's hard to see a long term piece evolving. We will keep you fully up to date with how it all goes over the next six to 10,000 years. UK News now and the founder of the BrewDog brewing company has described the United Kingdom as the least work-oriented country in the world and

disappointingly this was not meant as a compliment. If I said that about Britain you would know that is me admiring the work-life balance that we've achieved, well we haven't achieved. But if I described a country as the least work-oriented, I would mean it in a good way. He did not mean it in a good way. He means that he wants more people to work their arses off so that entrepreneurs can cream off the profits of their labour. Tiff, I know you've been investigating this for us. Yeah, I mean, as it's in Scotland,

we do obviously need to have someone to explain it properly. So for this item, we do have a Scottish boyfriend explains a hang work-life balance. Here's the hang, right? So former BrewDog CEO and current bellend, James Watt got into bother for suggesting in a video on social media that the idea of a work-life balance was invented by people who hate what they do. Then when he got pilters for it he doubled down by saying

it was because of a low work ethic in the UK. Aye very good pal it's easy to have a high work ethic when you're getting paid millions. It's no great surprise that James isn't worried about having to balance work and life because when he was at work he was supposedly spending a lot of his time perving over female... perving... perving and erving... perving over female bar staff and generally making them uncomfortable under a culture of fear, which I assume he probably does in his free time as well. An attack on the very idea of work-life balance suggests that James Watt would prefer imbalance. He'd prefer that workers give up the idea of free time and give all to their job

where bosses refuse to pay a living wage for new workers in the midst of a cost of living crisis. then he can put profit over people and he and his new fiancee that aptly named Georgia Toffalo or Toff Toff to her pals can elope and get married in the Maldives what eventually took the video down saying there's only so many times you can be called a gay scotch egg-headed in one day and I have to say I agree with him well partially because I don't agree with gay slurs as an insult for one and the same goes for the follicly challenged and obviously I don't think

Scottish is an insult especially for someone whose accent is even less believable than mine it's just a bit of a slam there on my husband okay but I do agree wholeheartedly and unreservedly that that man is a ****. I mean it is a bit weird isn't it? If you're criticising a country for not being focused enough on work, stop giving them so much beer! But surely that's quite obvious isn't it? But surely that's quite obvious, isn't it? Well, that brings us to the end of this week's Bugle. We will have a world exclusive coverage of the next four years of American history. And as I said, the 10,000 years of the Middle East peace process.

Anything to plug, Tiff? Oh, yes. I have some tour shows coming up. I'm going to be in Liverpool on the 6th of March, London on the 18th of March, I think, and Brighton on the 16th of March. More dates are being added. If you want to find out all about it, go check my website, which hasn't been updated since Brexit. Actually, don't check that. Go Go onto one of the social media platforms where I have no control.

But there's a link tree on there, you can find dates and everything else. And also, I believe, I think I'm on House of Games, week starting 10th of February, so if you wanna catch me on TV, tune in for that. Nato? February 1st, I'll be at the setup comedy, and February 9th, the Cheaper Than Therapy.

MrNadoGreen on Instagram. I'm making the move. NadoGreen on Blue Sky. You can find me there increasingly trying not to be threatened with death. It's good to have a goal in life, isn't it? My talk continues. Details at andyszoltzman.co.uk. The news quiz is back on radio. You can catch that via the BBC Sounds website. And also, don't forget that A Passion for Passion, the publishing phenomenon of the third millennium

so far by written, co-written by Alice Fraser and the legendary Dancy Lagarde, will be on sale from the 6th of February and you can buy copies of via the Bugle website, the Bugle podcast.com where you can also join the Bugle voluntary subscription scheme to help keep this show free, flourishing independent and devoid of advertisements telling you to buy soft furnishings or anything else until next week. Goodbye. or anything else. Until next week, goodbye.