The Bugle - Trade Tantrums, Brexit Birthday and Superbowl!

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Nish Kumar joins Andy Zaltzman for another sharp-witted dive into the world’s chaos. This episode unpacks the latest trade wars between Trump’s USA, Canada, and Mexico, explores the bittersweet hilarity of a Brexit birthday, and offers a uniquely Bugle-style preview of the Super Bowl.Listen in for top-tier satire, incisive analysis, and the usual dose of nonsense.💰 Support The Bugle: http://thebuglepodcast.com/donate🎙 Featuring: Andy Zaltzman & Nish Kumar🎛 Produced by: Chris Skinner & Laura Turner Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Bugle, audio newspaper for a visual world. Hello Buglers, and welcome to issue 4330 of The Bugle, the audio newspaper for a visual world that simply won't go away, or won't stay away. That's the audio newspaper rather than the world, which also won't go away. I mean, we go away for about a week at a time, I guess. Well, generally we come crawling back begging for forgiveness after one or sometimes two or in the summer. I don't think I've started this show very positively. Welcome to issue 4330 take two of The Bugle, the world's coolest guide to fashion and Roman... No, no. This is The Bugle. I'm Andy Zoltzman and joining me to smear the still warm entrails of another week's news into our own faces and guess what

the future holds based on the noises we then make? It's a man who yet again has turned down the offer of millions of dirty dollars to join the Saudi backed L.I.V. golf tour. Just to talk to you, Buglers, it's Nish Kumar. Nish, thanks so much for making that call. Everyone thinks it's out of Principal Andy, in reality it's a negotiation tactic. I'm holding out for an even more lucrative offer is it right so you also turned down ten million dollars a season to play for the Moscow Villainers in the Russian hat design league yeah that's true Andy that's actually true but that was over some unsubstantiated allegations that I was hat doping.

And I cannot stress this enough, I will fight to clear my name in court. I made those berets of my own accord. There was absolutely no performance enhancing hat making drugs involved in that. I am simply a skilled milliner. It's interesting couple of weekends for me, Andrew. Two weekends ago, I did a TED Talk. I didn't do a TED Talk. I cannot stress this enough. When I was offered the chance of doing a TED Talk, my instinctive thought was, I can't think of anything worse than me strapping on

a Madonna mic and dispensing wisdom to an audience of, I imagine, what would have been quite angry people. Instead, I interviewed my friend Alisha Harder, who runs the Palestine Comedy Club. It's a wonderful conversation. It'll be available soon. I was very happy to do it. But then two days ago, the following weekend, not seven days later, I was working at this time in my capacity as hype man for James Acaster doing a DJ set. And really, those two things really sum up my ambitions in life. Andrew, I've wanted to be an interviewer who takes on the

hardest hitting conversations. And I've also wanted to be a hype man jumping around in a band. I have always seen myself as somewhere between Walter Cronkite and Flavor Flav. And I think the last two weekends have really proved my diversity as an entertainer. Right. I've always thought of you very much as Flavour Cronkite. Well, Andy, sometimes on this show, I get a, you say something and I get a sinking feeling in my stomach and I'm getting that sinking feeling right now. And that sinking feeling is a blizzard of Photoshop. So I'm going to be receiving across various mediums of social media from the frankly radicalized lunatics that listen to this podcast. I imagine

there's going to be some, some, some Photoshop's done that somehow managed to be insensitive towards me, Walter Cronkite and Flavor Flav. The big three. The big three in many people's eyes. I guess Cronkite's the father, I'm the son and Flavour Flav's the Holy Ghost, I guess? Yeah, I mean you've just basically called yourself Jesus there Nish. Not for the first time. Listen, we're both bearded brown men that were misunderstood in our eras. We had some ideas that proved to be controversial

in our lifetime but history will judge us favorably. Jesus, as we all know, was a 45-year-old white curly-headed businessman based on a baby. I don't know what he became after that I lost interest. Look at the paintings Nish. So is that you saying you're Jesus? Look I mean you know we're from the same team that's all I can say that's all I can say. Yeah both of you are a huge letdown to the Jewish community. huge let down to the Jewish community. I mean, I think he costs, he costs, he costs us more market share than I have, to be fair.

Yeah, but I should, for the benefit of listeners, just to give you an insight into how seriously Andrew takes the tenets of his his faith, he just held up his mug, which had a picture of a dead pig on it. A dead pig that he ate with his wife to celebrate their engagement and commemorated in a photo that he then turned into a mug that he's now drinking his tea out of. Even Andy's tea is not kosher.

Yeah, but that pig, it was in a restaurant in Spain and it was so tender they cut it with a plate. I think that pig was so damn good, it just becomes kosher. I don't know if the... I mean, obviously you can interpret the scriptures in many different ways as humanity has proved over and over again. It's time to move on, Nish. We are recording on the 3rd of February, 2025.

On this day in 1690, Massachusetts issued the first paper money in the Americas. Huge moment in the history of American bribery and corruption, just so much less clanking. It made the whole process so much easier to do without people noticing. It's an elegant art form. It's an elegant art form with paper money. How on earth are people bribing each other now? What we just sort of brown envelopes filled with Bitcoin.

You can't do it. It's a lost art. The third of February, as we record, is National Sikki Day. So, I mean, there's a lost art. The third of February as we record is National Sikki Day. There's a day for everything and what a great day this is. I mean what better excuse. I mean that obviously yeah the Sikki is you know some people in favor of it others are against it but there are we give you now on National Sikki Day some even better excuses for taking the day off including excuse one I'm on the verge of discovering a new form of coffee that sits somewhere in the quantum caffeine of us between a latte a cappuccino and a flat white if I nail

it boss I'll give you a 2.5% share in the IP which could be worth up to 70 trillion dollars a week excuse B I can't come into work today because I'm stuck three feet off the ground I taught myself to levitate last night, but only read the instruction manual up to the levitation bit with also without also learning how to get back down. Should be fine to be in tomorrow. Possibly not until PM, uh, excuse three. Uh, I was diagnosed when I was young as being too cool for school. And I now need a second opinion on whether that also

means I'm too cool for work. Uh, excuse D my great grandfather worked his ass off in the days before statutory holidays and shit like that, so I reckon my family is owed one. That admittedly is a risky door to open. Excuse E. I'm actually too well to come to work today. My excess of health could destroy office morale when all my colleagues are consumed by jealousy at my frankly ethereal aura of glamorous and glimmeringly perfect skin. And Excuse F. I had a dream last night

that aliens will visit me today the 3rd of February with a new chemical element that cures all known diseases. I know it's probably nothing, but just in case I have to stay home, I mean if I came to work and we all missed out on it, you would feel bad boss, wouldn't you? So there you go, those are your alternatives, alternative excuses for National Sikki Day. I mean, it's a bit different when you're self-employed, isn't it? The sikki is a slightly different art form. Harder to pull off, Andrew. Harder to trick yourself when you employ yourself.

But I did have a job, well, I had several jobs for a long period of time. I was an office temp. And when I was an office temp, let me tell you, I was the Michelangelo of pulling a sickie. And by that, I mean, I was the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle of pulling a sickie in that I did it often whilst eating pizza and wearing a lot of orange. But I really was like, unbelievable at it. The key thing is an annual bout of diarrhea because it burns clean man as an excuse. It doesn't show up in your voice. You don't have to put on a pretend voice. You just have to sound slightly frantic like you're making the call in between emergency bowel movements.

I thought you were someone new with the Michael Angeau of pulling a sickie that what you did was you painted some willies and balls on the ceiling until you were asked to leave the office. As always, a section of The Bugle is going straight in the bin. This week we have a special moment of calm in this troubled world we need a moment of calm so here from the bugle is your moment of calm there it was I hope you enjoyed it oh god then we'll give you another one there there two moments of calm I hope you you didn't waste them the sad thing is that in that second moment of calm somewhere in the world a fox was

slaughtering a chicken whilst an angry man paddling back across a river was shouting, I told you guys just simmer down and learn to get along while I took my grain to the other side. You f***ing idiots. Andy, there's no time for a moment of calm in this world. I haven't checked because I don't actively have the news open while we're recording this, but I've assumed in one of those moments of calm,

Donald Trump ordered a full-scale military invasion of Disneyland to remove what he called a communist rodent. Yes well I mean that but has he learned nothing from history obviously the answer to that is yes he's learned nothing from history but that comes just after he announced the war on Narnia because of the lefty lion. So never fight wars on two fronts. Never. Also, that Narnia winter, it's felled many a general.

Top story this week. Well, we're starting in America again, bubblers. I'm sorry about this But we are sadly trapped in the stupidest of all the parallel universes that we sincerely do hope exists You said there are no parallel universes niche and this is the only one there is we did not big time I mean, that's the one little glimmer of hope I have that we are just in the stupidest parallel universe You've got a hope that this isn't the only universe and you've certainly got to hope that we're not like hitting a six out of 10 on the stupidness scale.

Anyway, you've got to hope we're not like a mid ranking stupid parallel universe. Uh, our top story in this parallel universe, giant orange shit head puts the FFS into tariffs news. Delusion monger of the year and gold standard division is Donald Trump has declared war on the world trade. Sorry, I forgot the word trade before the world. The a toadying tech bro, coronated king of the USA announced 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico and a one-time

special offer of just 10% for China. He's also waggling his trade wangle at the in the general direction of the EU and everywhere else in the world. As well, the Wall Street Journal in an editorial called Trump's tariffs, the dumbest trade war in history. And that is a hotly contested title. That is a title as old as trade. Often when we say something is the greatest of all time, or in this case, the dumbest of all time, all time isn't that long. But trade wars, they go back to when people would fight over who promised how many bison in exchange for how many other bison to each other. You painted it on the wall of your cave, you dick,

and it's all there in ochre and rock. Read the wall. Anyway, Nish, I know you're a you're a longtime student of trade wars and what they've done for the planet. Are you enjoying this one so far? Yes, that's right, Andy. Several papers have described this week as a Trump tariff tantrum, showing that he is at least consistent in all of his behaviours, being able to be summarised in the same consonant

repeated three times. So the current plan is that Mexico and Canada will be hit with a 25% border tax. There's some exemptions on Canadian energy, which will be hit with a 10% tax, which is also what is going to be levied on everything coming in from China. The Wall Street Journal, as you say, called it the dumbest trade war in history.

My first thought is don't say that because that man will immediately take that as a compliment. The two things he enjoys most are stupidity and being described as the most anything in history. So that is, first of all, that's a bad, so it's a red rag to a bull. And secondly, it appears Andy, I'm a keen Star Wars fan, and we are very much at the episode one,

the Phantom Menace phase of things. A load of trade tariffs are being argued over and whilst everything seems dull, it could be about to get violent very, very quickly. And just like the start of the Phantom Menace, there seems to be a lot of unnecessary and inexplicable racism aimed at the Chinese. It's been, I don't know if you've seen that movie recently,

but let me tell you, the Trade Federation aliens, it has not aged well. It has not aged well. Yeah, it seems to have been. It seems to have been heavily influenced by Benny Hill. That's all I'm saying. OK, that's all I'm saying. It's not aged well. I've not seen it recently. I saw it when it first came out into the cinemas, which would have been

over 25 years ago, 1999, 1999. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's not 1999, 1999. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's not a good film. Yeah. To be honest, I thought it was, um, yeah. Amongst the shittest two hours of my life, actually. Um, particularly the, uh, the Jar Jar Binks character, uh, which I assumed was a model in the formal Yorkshire wicket keeper, Jimmy Binks.

And I just thought it it didn't really express anything about him at all. That's the longest we've ever gone recording one of these before you've brought up an obscure cricketer. You're a model of restraint Andy. Yeah, thank you. You're a change man either that or you're trying to pretend that cricket doesn't exist given that England lost by 150 runs in the most recent t20 game What's what you're talking about? So look if it is not scheduled to take an entire working week, I don't recognize it as So look this is the the the big headlights here are this is rough news for Canada and for Mexico in particular. It's been a rough couple of it's been a rough year in a bit for Canada.

First Kendrick Lamar destroys Drake's career. And now this Theo Argetis is the managing director of the Ottawa based public affairs firm Compass Rose said that the unknowns had left had left Canada with no choice but to hit Trump back hard. And he also said at the end of the day, we don't even really know why he's doing this. And that phrase may well be written on Trump's gravestone, or at least it would be if Trump wasn't going to have to be immediately buried in an unmarked grave. Because if there is a Trump grave, that thing is going to be desecrated beyond belief that thing is essentially going to be used as a mass dog toilet like they are going to have to either go with unmarked grave or they're going to have to do him like they did a summer and dump him over

board of a ship like there is no way that that man is having a marked grave well also i'm not sure he's ever going to die to be honest well, certainly heaven's not going to take him. And I don't think hell wants him either, to be honest. So I think he's stuck here in between forever. He's yeah, he's he's blaming the fentanyl crisis on Canada. So that fentanyl, the synthetic opioid, that's the center of a real addiction crisis in America. However, less than 1% of fentanyl actually comes over into the US from the Canadian border. So it's absolutely irrelevant. And the

problem is the result of a complete systemic failure by the American healthcare system. And instead of choosing to remedy that, he's blaming Canada faster than the rest of us can shout free Luigi He did nothing wrong. Okay The former Deputy Prime Minister of Canada Christia Freeland said on CNN this action is utter madness it is a betrayal of America's closest friend of your ally, your neighbor, your best partner in the whole world.

And people have warned, not only is it bad for the world, but it's also bad for America. So is this an example of Trump achieving his primary strategy goal, which is f***ing off the entire planet? And if there's collateral damage for the USA, he doesn't give even a fraction of half a s***? No, I think a fraction of half a shit is generous, Andy. He doesn't even give a shot. He doesn't even give a mild skid mark on a pair of boxers about the future of the American people. He's already warned them that this might cause them pain. I mean, it's an astonishing thing.

Justin Trudeau tried to make an emotional appeal to America. And he said, we fought and we died with you. But that's absolutely useless. Because obviously, Trump didn't fight alongside anybody because he got out of the Vietnam War by using his spurious bone spurs excuse. And there's no point in invoking the Second World War with Donald Trump.

That's like invoking, that's like trying to bond with me over the result between Manchester United and Crystal Palace. Our team's lost. Trump is still smarting about the result of the second world war. There's literally no point in bringing that up as a way of bonding with him. In terms of the effect of tariffs, I found this article, are tariffs bad for growth? Yes, save five decades of data from 150 countries. And I found this, well, tariffs bad for growth, yes, save five decades of data from 150 countries. And I found this, well, it's not so much an article, it's a piece of academic research

on a website that was PMC.NCBI.NLM.NIH.gov. This is an official website of the United States government. I mean, admittedly, I don't think Trump's read all the pages of the US government's web various websites. But even so, five decades of data from 150 countries. I mean, I guess you could say, yeah, but what about the what about the hundreds, thousands of decades before that from all the countries that no longer exist because they traded themselves out of existence? I guess you could look at that as well. Andy, he's barely made it past the second amendment on the US constitution. Why you

would expect him to have done any reading is sort of beyond me. In a post on his Truth Social site, two words, at least two lies in that title. He basically said, without this massive subsidy, Canada ceases to exist as a viable country, harsh but true, therefore Canada should become our cherished capital letter 51st state Now I mean I've tried to look yeah, because obviously instinctively, you know if you're on the non Trumpian end of the political seesaw you instinctively tend to think that everything he says is poisonous nonsense, but We're the bugle we have to be objective So I've tried to look for the plus points about Canada becoming the 51st States of the USA. So for our Canadian listeners, let's look for the positives. Canadian golfers could play in the Ryder Cup, which they currently can't niche. They currently play can't play for

the USA. But once Canada becomes part of that, I don't know how many Canadian golfers there are professionally, some I imagine not that many. Well let me first of all say Andy I'm absolutely blown away your first positive somehow involved sport. Positive two, way more Canadians would become above average in way more metrics. That is worth, that's worth bearing in mind. Canada would be the biggest state in the USA therefore in Trumpian logic the best and it would be a huge boost for the flagging Canadian flag making industry which has been stuck with the same old hackneyed maple leaf nonsense for far too long now what since the since the 60s I think so you know America would have to remake all his flags as well they'd have to add another fucking star on.

Maybe they'd add a maple leaf instead of the 51st star. I don't know. There are more details just emerging of Trump's 51st state plan. And quite a generous offer this because in terms of population, I think America's population is almost 10 times Canada, but Trump has suggested that the name of the new country

would take the first five letters of America and the first two of Canada and watch them together to make the name of a new country. So that's very generous of him. Five from America, just the two from Canada. That is the humanity of the man. Mexico's president, Claudio Sheininbaum has promised retaliatory tariffs. It's also always worth noting that Mexico's president Claudia Scheinbaum is a Jewish Mexican woman, and as such, three-fifths of the way to being Donald Trump's worst nightmare brought to life.

The only two she's missing are being black and gay. Every morning Trump wakes up in a cold sweat shouting, the black Jewish Mexican lesbians are after me. Whilst in a room down the corridor, Melania continues to pray to the gods of heart failure to make her a widow. Trump's portrayal of Mexico as a kind of lawless gangland is actually weirdly only marginally less realistic than the portrayal of Mexico in the film Emilia

Perez. I saw the film Emilia Perez and I'm genuinely concerned that the script is adapted directly from the ramblings of Donald Trump. It really feels like someone involved in that movie just heard Trump say something like, Mexico is full of transgender drug dealers and thought, you know what, let's just whack some songs on that and bash bash boss Oscar nominations are holy. The canadians are not reacted overwhelmingly positively to the USA hockey fans in Ottawa. star spangled banner before the match between the Ottawa Senators and the Minnesota Wild in the NHL. And I mean, I've never fully understood why it is that you have to play national anthems before sporting events, even international sporting events, but particularly non-international

sporting events. It's always struck me as a bit odd. But they booed the star spangled banner. Presumably, I don't know if it's just like a just a bit odd. But they booed the star-spangled banner. Presumably, I don't know if it's just like a justifiable, if pedantic gripe with the term the land of three of the free in the home of the brave, still not having sarcastic air quotes around the words. But obviously it works because the senators beat the wild six nil. Or if you read the result on Trump's truth social feed four and a half nil tariffs are already biting

pure Zoltzman, pure uncut Zoltzman, absolutely uncut Zoltzman, it's a it's a joke about sports and sports statistics and tariffs we could have whacked a classics reference in there We could have whacked a classics reference in there. We're getting it in its purest form. Getting Canadians to boo your national anthem is unbelievable. This is a nation of congenitally polite people. It really is quite astonishing. The other thing to point out is, obviously it's clearly insane that at sports games, they have to play the national anthem. The only thing more insane than that, and we should come clean on this as European football

fans Andy, is the fact that when the European club football competition, the Champions League, which is played by the winners and the sort of top three or four teams in every European league is played, the players stand not for a national anthem, but for the anthem of the Champions League. There's a song that they've written for the Champions League, which is basically this. These are the champions. And all 22 of the starting players have to stand and solemnly respect that anthem. Well, I'm just saying saying as a European football fan, I might be in

a glass house vis-a-vis stupid anthems at sporting events. I think really they should just sing the current leading gambling jingle from before every sporting event. Just get all the players, all the fans to sing it. That's basically all the sport all the fans are seeing it. That's basically all the sport is now Hey, hey, it's not all gambling Andy. Some of it is sports washing for brutally repressive regimes Okay, hey I will not have you care I will not have you wash sports washing out of sport That's a huge facet of it It's 50-50. It's 50-50 making money for the gambling industry and the other 50 trying to get people to forget chopped up journalists in bins. That is 50-50.

Sorry for my sports washing. Of course, I mean, a week is a long time, as we mentioned on the bugle recently, a week is a long time in politics. And what are we down now to 204 weeks? No, 206 weeks to go until hopefully there's at least a different Trump as president. But I mean, let's set achievable goals at this point. As I said, he will be a mortal. Yeah, I have real issue with people saying that there's X

number of weeks or days until the end of the Trump administration. What are you? What the fuck are you talking about? What on earth gives you the right to? He lost the last election and he tried to steal it and now you're just gonna assume that he's in office He's ever gonna it's an infinite number of weeks before America has an election again That's that's what that's the best way of framing it Anyway in the course of this week, not only has he declared trade war on America's two neighbors In the course of this week, not only has he declared trade war on America's two neighbors and various other parts of the world, but he's also politicized a huge tragedy, the

plane crash in Washington, DC. He managed to maintain, I was listening to the press conference, I was driving to my show the other day, Nish, and he managed to maintain a vague, if completely implausible, veneer of humanity and at least pretend dignity for I think it was about 38 seconds before he then politicised the roar and infinite grief of the bereaved with his trademark poison bomb of wild, groundless speculation, fevered blame flinging, his spoilt giga ego, and of course, an almost spiritual commitment to misanthropy and prejudice. And clearly, he's built his political career and

success on proud, unashamed, and carefully nurtured putrescence of the soul. And any suffering and tragedy is a political opportunity. And he wasn't going to turn that down. He blamed, amongst other things, Biden, Obama, diversity equity and inclusion in general, people who are not intellectual geniuses like him clearly, people with mental health issues, the disabled, people who are not white men. It was one of the most extraordinary and if you're a fan of one or both of dignity and democracy harrowing press conferences I've ever listened to.

It's history's greatest example of a diversity hire has continued to wage what I can only describe as an astonishingly self-defeating war against diversity initiatives. Trump may as well wage war on spray tan and outright corruption. There's never been a clearer example of somebody essentially rising to the top of several different industries off pure unfettered diversity quota initiatives. Like he it's yeah, it's quite astonishing. He said that the terrible crash was the result of Obama pushing mediocre standards for air traffic controllers, and saying that we have to have the smartest people, it doesn't

matter what they look like, how they speak, who they are, it matters, intellect, talent, the word talent, you have to be talented, naturally talented genius, you can't have regular people doing that job. How he didn't spontaneously combust in a cloud of pure hypocrisy is beyond anyone's powers of comprehension. Trump pushing meritocracy whilst being the president is incredible nonsense. Also, the other people that he's appointed, that he's been appointing this week or attempting to appoint this week are not themselves adverts for his idea that he wants the most intelligent people to be

put into positions of power. The recently confirmed defence secretary, Pete Hegseth, was confirmed despite allegations of excessive drinking and abuse of his second wife. And Hegseth vowed, the era of the EIs gone at the defence department and we need the best and the brightest. What are you going to do? Fire yourself, f***! It's unbelievable to me. JD Vance thanked Trump for his leadership and bringing a higher the best people approach. JD Vance looks like an eight year old boy

that's drawn a beard on so he can see a nudie flick at the cinema. And he brings absolutely zero expertise or political acumen to his position as the person who will be president if nature actually takes its course on the current incumbent in that job. Trump talking about getting the best of the brightest in the week, he is trying to appoint Robert Kennedy Jr. to be in charge of the Department for Health in America is unbelievable. Robert Kennedy, who himself is not an advert for health, given that he looks like overcooked steak and also has a hostility to vaccines that is only matched with his enthusiasm for witch burning.

Well, look, Nish, as I've, as I may have said on the Beagle before, him being health secretary to me, I know he's got no medical background, but medical science is not the kind of thing you can just go out and learn is it you can't study medical science. Natural in a quality. It's spread also into the media and send me a fox news is Jesse waters the person in saying just guessing what I was going to call him. Anyway it's spread into Jesse Waters blaming transgender people short people not in those words. I mean it's I know it's it's a it is foolish to expect any any sense of dignity or fact to intrude on American politics now. Disabilities rights groups issued a joint statement calling Trump's comments irresponsible, disparaging and wrong, which is obviously true and valid, but also accusing Trump of

being, of saying irresponsible, disparaging and wrong things is about as meaningful as criticizing a whale for chowing down on some nice juicy plankton or criticizing an overfed puppy for crapping on the carpet and not writing a letter of apology. In mitigation, I do think we need to say this, Nish. Trump is the democratically elected leader of the USA and he is simply giving America what they voted for. We often criticize politicians for not doing that, to its only fair that we give Trump credit for not changing tech in office. America actively voted for someone who's immediate instincts in the aftermath of

a tragedy would be to be irresponsible, disparaging and wrong. They voted for an inhumane, sarcastic narcissist. He has a sacred moral duty to continue to be one. And to be fair to the lad, he is an absolute natural. That is definitely something you can practice it, but I don't think you can learn it to the level. I mean, when something looks so easy and unforced, we also forget the thousands of hours of hard work and practice that have gone into it alongside the innate natural aptitude.

I mean, to me, Trump is the Roger Federer of inhumane psychotic narcissism. So let's give him credit for that. But, you know, he's giving America what they democratically chose. In regards to his just outright war on the transgender community, I would like to, as I always try to do, take this opportunity to thank and congratulate so many members of our profession, Andy, that have done so much fantastic work using their enormous platforms to normalize hatred against a vulnerable minority group. I hope you all burn in hell. So as part of the sort of continued culture war, the White House has reinstated an order from Trump's first term, establishing the 1776 commission to promote

patriotic education. So that's the one of the key elements of that is playing down America's role in slavery and arguing that the civil rights movement infringed the lofty ideals espoused by the nation's founders. And it did in some ways contradict the values of the nation's founders in that their values included being pro-slavery. And that is such an important factor to remember in all of this. All of these stupid things like the 1776 commission are specifically named to take America back to a time before the abolition of slavery. It is such an important thing to continue. Some of the other things that they're suggesting are to the 1776 commission is arguing that January the 6th should be made a national holiday in which people are encouraged

to defecate on national monuments and government buildings. Martin Luther King Day is to be renamed Kid Rock Day to celebrate an actual American patriot for once and Hamilton is to be replaced with an all white cast so we can get some actual decent rappers and the final project is a mass funding of a program to replace the Lincoln Memorial with a statue of John Wilkes Booth to celebrate a man who really knew, and this is direct quote from the commission, how to own the libs. Well, yes, it is the latest in a barrage of horrendous malevolence laced prejudice to be chanted from the presidential esophagus. I think the theory niche that Trump in America is pursuing is that if you make enough trans people and immigrants feel uncomfortable enough, then inevitably at some point a magic giant

misanthropic rhinoceros will spontaneously appear in the heavens and start shitting gold bars directly through people's car windows. So I think that's the economic theory behind this to boost the well-being of ordinary hardworking Americans. I'm not an economist, so I don't know if it's going to work, but like I said, that's what America's voted for when you think of it. All in all, I mean, it was so, there was a really weird obsession with the coldness of the water of the Potomac River as well. I mean, it was so strange and unsettling in so many levels. All in all, it was another impressive performance in Trump's efforts to colonize the top 1000 least dignified public performances by an American president list.

I think he's now knocked out of the top 500 that time that Franklin Pierce in 1854, I think it was stripped down to some very threadbare fluorescent purple speedos and twerked a disarmingly erotic sculpture of the late Martha Washington that he'd made himself out of his own earwax. But that's not even top 500 anymore. Yeah, he's replaced a couple of those speeches Reagan made when he was severely addled with dementia and threatened to nuke Duran Duran. Let's move back across the Atlantic now Nish and birthday news. Happy fifth birthday to Brexit. Officially, obviously the vote was in 2016, but Brexit officially came into force five years ago.

Just a couple of days ago now. Look, it's too early to judge if Brexit is going to be the glorious success that we all hope it will be. As I said a couple of months ago, we need to give it time. Like we did with being members of the EU, we need to see how it pans out over the first four decades. Then if things are broadly going well well and Brexit has objectively essentially been beneficial for the nation economically and socially, we can throw our toys out of the pram in the traditional manner and rejoin the EU.

So I think that's how it works. And you've got to wait to see it's working and then get out of whatever's happening at the time. Yeah, it's, this might seem confusing for non-British bugglers. And I will suggest it's probably quite confusing for a lot of British bugglers as well, because the vote was in 2016. But obviously it was only in 2020 that the official birthday of Brexit began, because that was the moment when we negotiated our exit and we officially left the European Union.

It's not really an anniversary that gets a lot of traction because I don't think I need to remind people listening to this podcast what immediately followed the 31st of January 2020 but it's a little bit like It's a little bit like and I imagine there's quite a few of these children across the world a kid who was born on the 10th Of September 2001. It's a birthday that people remember But it's somewhat of an afterthought given what immediately followed it. It's yeah

but it's somewhat of an afterthought given what immediately followed it. So happy fifth birthday to Brexit. And like me, on my third birthday, when I threw a tantrum and hacked my cake to pieces in protest at not being allowed to attend the event fully dressed as Spider-Man, it's made the lives of everyone involved slightly worse. So you got polling on Wednesday. So that's a dark incident. My mum's still not happy about that. You got polling showed on Wednesday showed that the number of Britons who think that leaving the EU was a good idea is at its lowest since the referendum, which is three in 10, saying it was the right decision. Most voters support returning Britain into the European Union with even one in six who backed the UK's departure now experiencing regret. So the signs are not looking good, Andy.

I was digging into this YouGov poll. And just as a side note, the people I respect most are the people who participate in these polls and then when asked the questions say, I don't know. And I don't mean that facetiously. I think we need to celebrate the don't know. And I don't mean that facetiously. I think we need to celebrate the don't know community much more than we do. Just the people who have the honest candor to just turn around and say, I don't know enough to make a comment on this issue. Because unfortunately, we live in an era where the biggest problems in our society are caused

by people who know absolutely full declaring themselves. I believe the phrase was natural geniuses. Well, look, I've long argued that the great problem with the Brexiteer referendum was that it was this binary choice that there needed to be a third option, like you say of how the should I know way beyond the scope of human knowledge to factor in all the different calculations. And if there'd been a, I don't know, no option, I think that would have got a solid, I'm going to say 98% of the vote.

Or it certainly should have done. But as it is, I mean, part of the reason is that now what, eight and a half years since the vote, anyone under the age of 26 and a half didn't have a say in it for them. Brexit is just that kind of weird thing that happened in their childhood that Made my daddy start weeping and put on some pull on some Union Jack wife runs over his head and said at last After 40 years, I'm allowed to do this again So, um There was a way to quote from your own children Andrew

Not cool man. That's intellectual property theft. It still defines and divides the country and its media, as illustrated by the reporting of any stories to do with anything to do with Europe. So there's a headline on the Sun website, and the Sun has had a bit of a tricky time of late. As a newspaper and as a star, I guess. This was the story. Plans for Britain to sign up to a free movement scheme for young people in Europe were seen as the start of a Brexit betrayal last night.

This is the next sentence. Whitehall officials said they'd be working on allowing university students and those on technical courses to take part. So basically the betrayal is allowing young people to expand their horizons and be educated. That's the betrayal. That's what we voted to stop. Let's never forget that. Let's not give into the Woker arty and allow young people to have the kind of opportunities that our generation had and basically failed to take advantage of Nish. Those f**kers have to learn or not learn. Andy, you are speaking my language at last after however many years of this god damn

cuck fest. At last we're getting some reasonable sense. This is a betrayal, Andy. Brexit was specifically voted for to make the lives of our children and grandchildren slightly worse. You're missing a huge motivational factor behind a lot of it. And that is deep resentment by old people at the youth of their children and grandchildren. A dance as old as politics itself.

If I may quote from my own grandmother, the whites don't give a f*** about their kids. Now that's a translation from the Mully Island, but the spirit of it is very much correct. The independent newspaper actually undertook the task of trying to see how promises made around Brexit stacked up. And as a review of Brexit, it reads a little bit like the one and a half star review I received from my 2014 show at the Melbourne Comedy Festival.

There was a promise that there would be 350 million pounds a week for the NHS. That's obviously not materialized, but Brexit has led to a slowdown of nurses arriving in Europe from the EU states. There was this vote leave promise that the UK would prosper as an independent nation, but government figures show that Brexit is suspected to not 4% from the size of Britain's economy in the long run.

We were promised lower taxes and a better cost of living. Neither of those has materialized. There was a big promise that by the leave backers that there would be a trade deal with the United States of America, despite Barack Obama, the then president warning that leaving the EU would put Britain at the back of the queue. And it's that's, that's obviously not happened. And now we're dealing with America, which at this point is the roguest of rogue states.

There's essentially almost nothing that Brexit promised that has actually been delivered, but again, that's only if you think what Brexit was promising was what they said, whereas what they implied, what they implied was a gradual making of this country into something slightly worse, and that has absolutely been delivered on. That is absolutely that it's like make America great again. People keep saying, well, that's not, he's not delivered on that. He's not making anything great.

These political movements are not about improving things. They're about dragging us back to the pre-industrialized era. Like they're about making our countries, they're about making our country substantially worse. The whole point of Britain was to take back control and to put us back into our Victorian heyday. And so all we really were ever being promised with Brexit was increased racism and a worse sewage system. And we have both of those, Andy. Okay? We have both of those. We had race riots last summer and our rivers are filled with human shit.

Ergo, Brexit is a success. All we need now is to get all the school kids back up the chimneys and everything will have been achieved. We'll be truly independent from all those. But health and safety gone mad that was forced on us by Brussels. The government has been clamping down on our British right to die of tuberculosis. The government is well, I mean, it's only been in power, what, seven months now and I think it's fair to say it has struggled to reinflate the balloon of economic confidence, partly because the balloon has had a prolonged tussle with the porcupines of Brexit and Covid. But balloons can always be patched up, can't they? They can always be patched up, often. The government's latest

plans included a new train line from Oxford to Cambridge. And, you know, if HS2 does not unlock the Northern powerhouse by making it slightly quicker to get from London to Birmingham, then surely an Oxbridge train line will finish. And we can also add a university train race to the sporting calendar as well. I know you'd enjoy that. I know you love your train race. Listen, Andy, the Labour government is all about delivering for working people. And what could deliver more for working people. And what could

deliver more for working people than getting a train line from Oxford to Cambridge? What could what could be of a higher priority to because we're constantly told by the Labour government that they can't do things like, you know, come down harder and racist rhetoric or, you know, support immigration because of its huge benefits economically and socially to Britain over the last half century. We can't do any of that because we might alienate a sort of abstract voter that doesn't really exist in the north, but seemingly the government's recourse to appealing to that abstract non-existent northern English voter is to build a trade line between the two most elite and exclusive universities in this country. It's an interesting political ploy. Sports section now and we're recording on the

3rd of February. This coming Sunday it's the Super Bowl, one of the biggest sporting events of the year, the Philadelphia Eagles against the Kansas City Kai F's, sorry, Chiefs. I thought it was some kind of slightly more up to date frat house. And I mean, it's set to be a thrilling match that Kansas going for their third consecutive victory. Nish, are you an American football fan at all? Andy, I'm a huge fan of the Super Bowl halftime show. I could not be more excited for this.

I'm putting it out there. I'm putting it out there. If anybody has a way of reaching Kendrick LeBlanc, I am willing to stand near him on the stage at the Super Bowl, jumping up and down. Right. Well, I'm putting it out there. Well, we will have full, uh, exclusive, uh, reports on niches half time jumping next week. What about the game itself? Nish?

I mean, what are going to be the decisive factors between these two outstanding teams, uh, that have both managed to convert their excellent, uh, regular season form into a successful postseason. Well, let's look at the decisive factors. I think it could come down to which team can put the troubles of the world furthest to the back of their own. So much big heavy stuff going on around the world right now. Wars, political division, environmental disaster grams and the like.

So it could come down to which team can shuttle that out and focus on the game. This has always been a factor in Super Bowls, Nish of course, pretty much ever since Super Bowl XIV, sorry, 14, in January, 1980, when the LA Rams coach Ray Malavasi blamed his team's 31-19 defeat to the Pittsburgh Steelers on inexperienced quarterback Vince Ferragamo,

being quotes, clearly distracted by the global oil price crisis and the recent outbreak of war between the Soviet Union and Afghanistan. Going further back, pre-Super Bowl, the 1947 NFL championship game on the 28th of December saw the Eagles sink to an early 14-0 deficit against the Chicago Cardinals, as they were then consumed by worry over the growing abdication crisis in Romania that eventually saw King Michael the First relinquish the throne just two days later.

They could never come back from that and lost the game. Another factor, Nish, is going to be which team plays better in the dark because the Super Bowl is taking place in the New Orleans Superdome. The last time it was there in 2013, it featured a 34 minute delay due to a power outage, which got such media traction and column inches in the press that the scheme is set to be repeated and each team will be able to call a three minute period of complete and after darkness at some point in the game, obviously excluding the final two minutes of each off. Another key factor could be which team has the most misogynistic

kicker. I mean, the sport of stations are still looking for definitive proof of a link, but the Chief's Harrison Butker, or Harrison get back in the kitchen girls, Butker, as he's also known, he scooped up three Super Bowl rings and some people are starting to join those statistical dots, Nish. So I guess we will have more evidence one way or the other after this weekend but of course the key factor in this Super Bowl could come down once again to celebrity romances with Relationship with twit Taylor Swift having proved the decisive factor in every Super Bowl since the start of 2024 Well her romantic coublage with the Chiefs Titan kelsey rumors are reaching the bugles nfl news

reporting team that the eagles have forced their star titan dallas goddard to dump his current girlfriend and go on a date with swift rivaling pop legend barbara strizan and the goddard strizan date could be set to involve a meal at a sushi restaurant followed by a film and then maybe 10 pin bowling or bingo a competitive karaoke was ruled out by both the Eagles and Streisand's management team, both concerned by what impact a defeat would have on the psyche and confidence of their clients. So I mean, there's just so much,

so much to consider in a game like this, Nish. All those key 0.001%ers, they all add up. You've got to question some of the decision-making to breeze past attempting to set up a romance with Sabrina Carpenter or Charlie XCX and going straight to Streisand. You have to question the wisdom behind that decision making. I do hope Charlie XCX does perform at uh, what would it be? Come on Andy, use that education. Use that education. Is it 90 10 or 10 110? I don't know why the fuck you're asking me man I literally have no clue anyway so much to consider with the Super Bowl

But at the end of the day it might all come down to who at the end of the day has put more points on the scoreboard Thank you for listening beautiful is that bring to the end of this week's Thank you for listening Buglers, that brings us to the end of this week's podcast. There are a few tickets left to some of my remaining tour shows. Go to andyzoltzman.co.uk, go to thebuglepodcast.com for details of Alice Fraser's extremely imminent book. Nish, anything to plug? Big plugs coming up. For North American Buglers, there are still tickets left for my US and Canadian

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