The Bulwark Podcast - Ep. 6: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

After the 2020 election, Lindsey Graham had a chance to be free—of Donald Trump, and all the rationalizing he had done for four years. But the senator was no longer his own man: He now belonged to T...rump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:20 news organizations were projecting that Graham would keep his seat for another six years. That Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina will win re-election by defeating Democratic challenger Jamie Harrison. He has... Shortly after that news hit the airwaves, Graham got a phone call. It was President Donald Trump calling to offer his congratulations. Trump was in a tougher re-election fight, and Graham tried to cheer him up. Hang in there, he told Trump. It's looking pretty good for you. But in fact, it didn't look good for Trump. And as ballots were tabulated into the next day, it got worse. Trump was going to lose. This was a big moment. It was Graham's chance to let go.
Starting point is 00:02:11 When Trump captured the White House in 2016, Graham had offered the new president his allegiance. For four years, Graham and his Republican colleagues had defended or ignored Trump's persistent abuse of his office. They had rationalized their collaboration with Trump as a necessary bargain. They told themselves that by earning the president's trust, they were influencing his policy decisions and restraining his worst impulses. Now, that bargain was no longer necessary. Trump would soon be out of power. The danger he posed to the United States and to the world was receding. Graham was free, but he couldn't let go. Those four years had changed Graham. He wasn't his own man anymore. He belonged to Trump.
Starting point is 00:03:09 This is The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, presented by The Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Will Salatan. When a conventional politician submits to an authoritarian, the politician tells himself that their alliance is only temporary. Sometimes the authoritarian has a mass following. Sometimes he already has power. The politician wants access to that following and that power. He imagines that eventually he can leave the alliance just as easily as he went into it. That assumption is a fatal mistake because submission changes the person who submits.
Starting point is 00:04:00 The more you contort yourself to serve the leader, the more you forget what you once believed. The more you rely on the leader for strength, the weaker you become. The more you cater to the leader's followers, the more you become what those followers want you to be. The result of this process is that morally, you basically hollow yourself out. It isn't just that you can't leave anymore. It's that you no longer want to leave. To let go of Trump, Graham needed one of three things. He needed to recognize the gravity of Trump's crimes and the threat Trump posed to the country.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Or alternatively, Graham needed a different vision of the Republican Party, one guided by principles, not by devotion to Trump. Or, if breaking with Trump would break the party, Graham at least needed to be willing to lose the next election to the Democrats. By November 2020, Graham no longer possessed any of those things. He had rationalized so much corruption that he was largely desensitized to it. He had lost faith in the viability of a Trump-free Republican Party. And Graham had convinced himself that a government led by the Democrats would be ruinous.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Therefore, Republicans had to win the next election. And to win, they had to placate Trump. The first thing Trump wanted was a united propaganda campaign by Republicans to discredit the election results. Trump made this clear in public statements on election night and in private phone calls with Graham. So, that's what Graham did. Here's Graham on Fox News on November 5th, two days after the election. Give to DonaldJTrump.com so we'll have the resources to fight.
Starting point is 00:06:07 The allegations of wrongdoing are earth-shattering. So Senate Republicans are going to be briefed by the Trump campaign Saturday, and every Senate Republican and House Republican needs to get on television and tell this story. Philadelphia elections are crooked as a snake. Why are they shutting people out? Because they don't want people to see what they're doing. But you're talking about a lot of dead people voting. You're talking about in Nevada, people voting are not legal residents. This was a big change from 2017. Back then, when Trump claimed that voter fraud had robbed him of victory in the popular vote,
Starting point is 00:06:49 Graham had warned the president that such reckless allegations would, quote, shake confidence in your ability to lead the country. But now that the American political system had rejected Trump, the president no longer cared about public confidence. He didn't want to preserve faith in the system. He wanted to destroy it. And Graham was going to help him. Over the next month, Graham peddled one bizarre tale after another. Rigged computers, dead voters, fake ballots from nursing homes. I am convinced if you ran these signatures through with the machine set at the proper setting, thousands of ballots would be found to be kicked out. You remember the story about people filling out ballots on the hood of a car?
Starting point is 00:07:33 We have a witness seeing that, that they filled out ballots on a Biden-Harrison truck. Well, those are fraudulent signatures. In private, Graham ridiculed affidavits that alleged voter fraud. I can get an affidavit tomorrow saying the world is flat, he told an aide. But on TV, Graham hyped affidavits as evidence that the election results couldn't be trusted. Graham, like Trump, was repeatedly advised that his allegations were baseless or absurd. But, like Trump, he refused to back down. In a press briefing on November 6th, a reporter alerted Graham to what Pat Toomey, a Republican senator from Pennsylvania, had said that morning. That there was, quote,
Starting point is 00:08:20 simply no evidence of any kind of widespread corruption or fraud in Pennsylvania's election. Graham shrugged off the warning. He told the reporter, quote, Philadelphia is not the bastion of free and fair elections. The next day, as continuing tabulations closed off any chance of a Trump victory, all the major TV networks, including Fox News, announced that Joe Biden had won. But Graham refused to accept their verdict. These computers in Michigan do not pass the smell test, he alleged. I want Pennsylvania to explain to the American people how six people after they die can register and vote in Pennsylvania. I want the computer systems in Michigan that flip votes from Republicans to Democrats to be looked at. And the software was used all over the country.
Starting point is 00:09:11 There's a lot of shenanigans going on here. If I were President Trump, I would take all this to court. I'd fight back. Do not concede, Mr. President. Fight hard. On November 12th, Steve Doocy, a Fox News host, pointed out that the election wasn't really that close. Trump was behind by tens of thousands of votes in several states, Doocy reminded Graham. That meant that the outcome could be reversed only by, in Doocy's words, some sort of systemic fraud, some gigantic thing. But Graham didn't budge. He just repeated his stories about fake ballots.
Starting point is 00:09:50 By the end of November, all the decisive states had certified their election results. On December 1st, Attorney General William Barr added that despite investigations of Republican allegations about the election, investigations that had been conducted by the FBI and by U.S. attorneys, Barr had, quote, not seen fraud on a scale that could change the result. But Graham still didn't let up. On December 3rd, two days after that statement from Barr,
Starting point is 00:10:25 Graham was on Fox News going at it again. As a matter of fact, I sent an affidavit over signed by a gentleman in Pennsylvania. I think it was Pennsylvania, but I'm backdating ballots. I know the Department of Justice and the post office people actually talked to that individual. Sean Hannity had a gentleman on his show a night or two ago that claims that he took ballots from New York to Pennsylvania. Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but if you have a truck driver willing to say under oath that he picked up ballots in New York that were Pennsylvania in nature and drove them to Pennsylvania, that would be an earth-shaking revelation. Both of these stories, the one about backdating ballots and the one about smuggling ballots to Pennsylvania, were unfounded. But Graham kept going. On December 11th, he endorsed a lawsuit
Starting point is 00:11:15 filed by the state of Texas that tried to invalidate the election results from four other states, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. And Graham didn't just dispute the outcome of the election. He directly attempted to overturn it. On November 13th, Graham phoned Brad Raffensperger, the Secretary of State of Georgia. In the phone call, Graham asked whether Raffensperger could discard all mail-in ballots from counties in which relatively high numbers of voter signatures were thought to be dubious. Raffensperger, a lifelong Republican, interpreted Graham's call as a suggestion that Raffensperger should throw out ballots to help Trump win the state. But when the phone call was reported in the press,
Starting point is 00:12:11 Graham insisted he was just asking questions. Graham also openly pressured officials in Georgia to override the state's election results. A week after the call to Raffensperger, Graham claimed on Fox & Friends that suspicious signatures should have voided 39,000 ballots in Georgia. Graham said that was, quote, more than enough to put Trump ahead. We're going to fight back in Georgia. We're going to fight back everywhere, he vowed. On December 6th, Georgia's Republican governor, Brian Kemp, defied pressure from Trump to call a special legislative session that would re-audit the state's ballot count and award Georgia's electoral votes to Trump.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Kemp pointed out that it would be unconstitutional to retroactively change Georgia's electoral process in order to change the winner. The next day, December 7th, Graham responded to Kemp by going on TV and threatening the governor. Here's what I think. If you're not fighting for Trump now when he needs you the most as a Republican leader in Georgia, people are not going to fight for you when you ask them to get re-elected. There's a civil war... Now, just to be clear, at no point did Graham endorse violence or explicitly ask state officials to do anything illegal. Despite his incendiary rhetoric and his misleading claims of fraud, Graham stipulated that he would accept court rulings and that he would support the peaceful transfer of power. That may not sound
Starting point is 00:13:46 like much, but it mattered. American democracy survived the weeks after the 2020 election, in part because Graham and other senior Republicans did not cross that line. But paradoxically, that line also created a false sense of security. It allowed Graham and his colleagues to rationalize their participation in spreading propaganda about election theft. They pretended that because they were willing to stop short of violence, and because they were willing to accept decisions from the Supreme Court, that was enough to preserve democracy and the rule of law. In reality, these politicians were thoroughly complicit in the explosion that was about to
Starting point is 00:14:32 follow. The United States, metaphorically, was about to burst into flames. And while Graham and other prominent Republicans were officially against arson. Every time they suggested that the election had been stolen, they were pouring gasoline on the country. Later, in books and articles about this period, Graham would depict himself as a voice of reason, working behind the scenes to calm the president's anger. But even in private, Graham didn't push Trump to concede the election. In fact, he routinely encouraged the president to, quote, keep fighting in the courts. At the same time, on TV, Graham fed Trump's followers many of the falsehoods and apocalyptic fantasies that would ultimately drive them to insurrection. used the word rigged, but he repeatedly told Fox News viewers that the electoral system was so stacked against them and so riddled with fraud that Republicans couldn't prevail.
Starting point is 00:15:52 If we don't fight back in 2020, we're never going to win again, he told them. Here's Graham talking to Hannity in prime time on November 9th. According to audience metrics, four million people were watching this show. Graham told them that Democratic victories in elections were systematically corrupt. We owe it to those who voted for President Trump and the country at large to test this system. If we don't deal with voting by mail in 2020, we'll never win the White House again.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Social media censors conservatives when we want to talk to each other, get our point of view out. The state of play in America in 2020 for Republicans is not good. We need to fight back. We win because of our ideas. We lose elections because they cheat us. On December 7th, Graham told Hannity's audience that Democrats in Georgia had to be stopped before they, quote, steal another election. And on December 9th, he repeatedly suggested to Mike Gallagher, a right-wing radio host, that based on mathematical anomalies, the presidential vote tallies were phony. We have a system that was created out of nowhere that was
Starting point is 00:17:06 run by a bunch of liberal Democrats that violates the laws of the state where voting took place. And guess what? Trump lost and every other Republican did well. He won 19 of 20 bellwether counties that predict 100 percent who's going to be president of the United States. So how could it be that we grow our majority in the House, grow our numbers in the House, hold the Senate, and Trump loses? How can that be? Well, two words, cheating and fraud. Senator Lindsey Graham, LindseyGraham.com, thank you, sir, for spending some time with us here fighting for these.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And keep fighting the good fight. We'll talk to you soon. In that exchange, you can hear how the propaganda worked. Graham didn't have to say the election was stolen. He just laid out the numbers and said there was something fishy about them. Gallagher then supplied the predictable answer, cheating and fraud. Did Graham dispute that answer? Nope, because that's exactly the answer Graham meant to imply. Even after the Supreme Court dismissed the Texas lawsuit on December 11th, and even after the Electoral College confirmed Biden's victory on December 14th,
Starting point is 00:18:18 Graham refused to say that the election was over. As Trump, Graham, and other Republicans cried fraud and stoked outrage, defenders of American democracy worried. In a 60 Minutes interview on November 15th, former President Barack Obama implicitly compared Trump to authoritarian leaders in other countries. Obama warned Americans, quote, there are strong men and dictators around the world who think they can do anything to stay in power. Graham ridiculed that comparison. He assured Fox News viewers that Trump was nothing like a dictator. In the hysterical vocabulary of the left, Graham jeered, a dictator is a conservative fighting for their cause, standing up for their rights.
Starting point is 00:19:11 On January 6th, 2021, thousands of Americans, heeding the president's call to rise up against a stolen election, descended on the United States Capitol to fight for you! They're animals! We've lost the line! All of you need to get back! All of you need to get back up to the upper deck! All of you need to get back to the upper deck! And stop! Nancy! Nancy! Nancy!
Starting point is 00:20:05 Nancy! Nancy! Nancy! Nancy! Nancy! Nancy! The attack on the Capitol shook Graham. For four years, he had rationalized and collaborated in everything Trump did, obstructing justice, seizing emergency powers, purging whistleblowers, even refusing to accept electoral defeat. But the violence Graham saw that day dismayed him. So did Trump's failure to call off the mob. The president, in Graham's mind, had finally gone too far.
Starting point is 00:20:52 During the attack, Graham actually phoned the White House and threatened the president, according to reporters Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns. In their book, This Will Not Pass, Martin and Burns report that Graham called up White House counsel Pat Cipollone and told him that if Trump didn't step up to condemn the violence, quote, we'll be asking you for the 25th amendment. Under that amendment, Vice President Mike Pence and the cabinet could formally declare that Trump was unable to discharge his duties, and on that basis, they could replace Trump with Pence. Essentially, Graham was telling Cipollone that Trump, in his present state of mind, was unfit to govern the country. That night after the mob left the Capitol, Graham rose in the Senate to call for unity.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He finally said what he had failed to say in the two months since the election. That the stories of massive voter fraud had been debunked, that Trump's election challenges had failed in the courts, that the judiciary was the final arbiter, and that Biden was the legitimate president-elect. Trump and I, we've had a hell of a journey. I hate it being this way. Oh my God, I hate it. From my point of view, he's been a consequential president. But today, first thing you'll see. All I can say is count me out. Enough is enough. It seemed that Graham was finally breaking with Trump. But that was a false impression.
Starting point is 00:22:30 In fact, Graham was already plotting Trump's return to power. Graham had been thinking about a Trump comeback since the first days after the election. Not just a challenge to the election results of 2020, but a return to power in 2024. You can hear Graham talking about this idea in a radio interview with Brian Kilmeade on November 9th. And I would encourage President Trump, if after all this he does fall short, to not let this movement die, to consider running again, to create an organization, platforms over the next four years to keep his movement alive,
Starting point is 00:23:14 growing the Republican representation in minority communities, keep fighting for the 2020 vote. And run again. It's not done yet. And run again. I would encourage him to think about doing it. I run again. It's not done yet. And run again. I would encourage him to think about doing it. I really would. Graham delivered the same message directly to Trump in phone calls, as reported by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa in their book, Peril. On November 18th, Graham told Trump, quote, you're going to be a force in American politics for a long time. And the best way to
Starting point is 00:23:42 maintain that power is to wind this thing down in a fashion that gives you a second act, right? A month later, in another phone call, Graham told Trump that in the upcoming election of 2024, quote, you've locked down the Republican Party nomination if you want it. This is what so many people misunderstand about that speech Graham gave on the Senate floor on the night of January 6th. When Graham said that he hated to see Trump's presidency, quote, end this way, he wasn't renouncing Trump. He was lament that the president, by inciting and refusing to stop the attack on the Capitol, had wrecked that plan.
Starting point is 00:24:33 To understand what was going through Graham's mind during this period, you have to watch the press conference he gave the next day, January 7th. In that press conference, Graham condemned the violence. He also praised Mike Pence for resisting a pressure campaign in the days before January 6th to block the counting of electoral votes. Graham described this pressure campaign in the passive voice so he wouldn't have to mention that the man who had applied the pressure was Trump. Before the attack on the Capitol, Graham had privately advised Pence that Trump's scheme to reject electoral votes was unconstitutional. Now, in the press conference, Graham repeated that position in public.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He acknowledged that the things Pence had been asked to do were illegal and unconstitutional. When a reporter pointed out that the guy who had told Pence to do those things was Trump, Graham argued that the president's motives were understandable. Here's how Graham explained Trump's state of mind. The president's frustrated. He thought he was cheated. Nobody's ever going to convince him that he wasn't. Graham delivered that explanation as though it absolved the president. But think for a minute about what those words meant. Graham wasn't just saying that Trump had been misled. He was saying that Trump was completely impervious to being corrected.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Trump would never accept, regardless of the evidence, that the voters had rejected him. He was like a sexual predator who refuses to accept that a woman has said no. And Trump hadn't just stood about his unfounded grievance. He had acted on that grievance, as Graham acknowledged, by defying the Constitution in an attempt to stay in power. Essentially, Graham was admitting that Trump was an incurable authoritarian. And yet, Graham didn't recoil as he would have done five years earlier. Graham was now so accustomed to defending Trump that even an attempted coup by a man who would never recognize that the attempted coup was wrong could not shake Graham's loyalty. To Graham,
Starting point is 00:26:54 Trump's impenetrable certitude wasn't a pathology that made him unfit for office. It was an excuse. A reporter asked Graham whether the president was mentally unwell. Graham said no, he wasn't, and Graham blamed Trump's illegal ideas and his false claims about the election on, quote, very bad advisors. But Graham knew that the root problem was Trump. He knew that Trump had chosen those advisors precisely because they told the president what he wanted to hear. In fact, Graham would later admit privately, in a comment reported by authors Peter Baker and Susan Glasser, that Trump, quote, would have believed Martians fixed the election if we had told him, because he wanted to believe it.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And even at this point, nearly 24 hours after the mob had dispersed from the Capitol, Graham still wasn't confident that Trump would leave office without instigating another attack. At the press conference, Graham struggled with that question. Do you trust the president not to incite the kind of violence that he promoted yesterday and the next two weeks? I'm hoping he won't. I'm hoping that he will allow Mark Meadows to continue with the transition.
Starting point is 00:28:12 So my hope is that we can move forward in the next 14 days. But this will depend on what the president does. I am hopeful that the worst is behind us and we can transfer power on January 20th. Senator, you believe that the events of yesterday, his campaign, have disqualified the president from seeking the office again in the future? I'm not worried about the next election. I'm worried about getting through the next 14 days. Graham didn't mention that he had privately threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But given Trump's behavior on January 6th, Graham held out the possibility of using that amendment. I don't support an effort to invoke the 25th Amendment now, said Graham. But if something else happens, he said, all options would be on the table. That press conference stands as a record of how far Graham and his party had descended into outright authoritarianism. Graham believed that Trump had tried to remain in power against the will of the people through illegal and unconstitutional acts. He believed that Trump would never concede defeat, and therefore, Trump would never renounce his attempted coup and would never accept the legitimacy of the United States government under Joe Biden. And Graham also believed that Trump might incite further violence and might not agree to leave office. And yet, despite all of that, Lindsey Graham intended to restore Donald Trump to power.
Starting point is 00:30:03 On January 8th, the day after that press conference, a band of Trump supporters hounded Graham at Reagan National Airport, calling him a traitor. Lindsey Graham, you are a traitor to the country. You know it was rigged. You know it was rigged. You know it was rigged. You garbage human being. It's going to be like this forever. That scene at the airport gave rise to a story that was promoted with glee by Trump and by Graham's critics. The story was that the confrontation at the airport had chastened Graham and had pushed him back into the president's camp.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But in reality, there's no evidence that Graham ever seriously wavered in his intention to put Trump back in the White House. In fact, soon after his January 7th press conference, Graham reassured the president that his remarks on the Senate floor about their journey together. I hate it to end this way. Count me out. Enough is enough. We're about giving up on the election of 2020, not about giving up on Trump's political future. And during that week after the insurrection, as the House moved toward impeaching Trump, Graham crossed another line in his betrayal of democracy. To shield the president from accountability, Graham invoked the prospect of bloodshed. On the morning of January 13th, Graham tweeted that an impeachment of Trump, quote, could invite further violence. That evening, after the House approved the article of impeachment, Graham again warned that the impeachment process, quote, could incite further violence. And that night,
Starting point is 00:31:53 on Hannity's TV show, Graham repeated his warning three more times. These actions, if they continue, will incite more violence. Every time you ask President Trump to calm his people down, to reject violence, to move on, he has done it. Now, how has he been met? I think outrageous misconduct by the Congress itself. What good comes from impeaching President Trump after he's out of office? That's an unconstitutional attack on the presidency. It will divide the country. It will incite violence. We should reject post-presidential impeachments. It will divide the country. It will incite violence. We should reject post-presidential impeachments because it will destroy the country and it will incite violence. If you want to end the violence, end impeachment. Again, just to be clear, Graham
Starting point is 00:32:36 wasn't endorsing violence. He was just stating as a prediction and as a warning that if Congress continued down the path of impeachment, somebody would get hurt. A mob assembled by the president had just attacked Congress, and Graham was suggesting that if Congress didn't behave itself, something like that might happen again. Essentially, Graham was using the prospect of violence incited by an authoritarian leader as leverage to protect that leader from being held accountable for his attempted coup. Think for a minute about what Graham said to Hannity in that interview, that the House should have, quote, met Trump in a more conciliatory way, after the president consented belatedly to reject violence. Graham was implying that the peaceful transfer of power was no longer
Starting point is 00:33:34 an ironclad rule worthy of congressional enforcement. It was an act of grace by the president, for which Congress, in Graham's view, should have been grateful. And don't forget Graham's parting words to Hannity, if you want to end the violence and impeachment. That warning from Graham to Congress was an overt threat. In all his years of service to Trump, this was the lowest tactic to which Graham had stooped. How had the United States come to this? How could a senior senator and many of his colleagues defend a president who had used violence to try to stay in power after losing an election? How could they justify returning such a man to the nation's highest office? Political violence was common in many other countries, and elites often used or tolerated it.
Starting point is 00:34:32 But America was supposed to be different. How could that kind of tolerance happen here? One disturbingly simple answer is that the senators who held Trump's fate in their hands were in many cases the same senators who sometimes excused or collaborated with strongmen in other countries. And they decided to deal with Trump the same way. Graham, for instance, had made his peace with Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the president of Turkey. Graham didn't like Erdogan's suppression of domestic dissent or his increasing centralization of power, but he worried that Erdogan might steer Turkey away from NATO and toward Russia.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So Graham decided that the United States should suck it up and, quote, do business with Erdogan. Later, Graham would make a similar calculation in Saudi Arabia. In 2018, after Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a dissident journalist, Graham had vowed never to deal with the Crown Prince. But in April 2023, Graham flew to Saudi Arabia and met with the Crown Prince to, quote, enhance the U.S.-Saudi relationship.
Starting point is 00:35:50 In an interview with Saudi TV, Graham explained his reversal. Well, a couple reasons I came. Number one, the kingdom has just purchased $37 billion of 787 Boeing Dreamliners made in South Carolina. Amazing deal for the state. Yeah, so I got a hard and fast rule. You buy $37 billion of products made in my state, I'm going to come and say thank you. As a would-be autocrat, Trump wasn't in the same league as Mohammed bin Salman. But in many respects, Trump was a lot like Erdogan.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Trump had frequently called for jailing his own political opponents. In 2019, to fund his border wall, he had seized emergency powers to override the will of Congress. And two weeks before the January 6th attack, in a meeting at the White House, Trump and a circle of loyalists had discussed proposals to claim emergency powers again, this time to seize voting machines and, if necessary, use the military to quote, rerun the 2020 election. In the days after Trump's coup attempt, Graham decided that just as the United States needed Erdogan, the Republican Party still needed Trump. Graham was worried that Trump would leave the party and take his voters with him. On January
Starting point is 00:37:14 19th, the Wall Street Journal reported that the president, irked that some Republicans weren't standing by him, was talking about forming a so-called Patriot Party. Graham said he hoped that Trump wouldn't do that. I hope he'll stay the leader of the Republican Party, said Graham. Over the next two weeks, Graham came up with various arguments against convicting Trump at his upcoming trial in the Senate. All of the arguments were phony. Graham said it was cruel and pointless to impeach Trump, since Trump was leaving office and returning to private life. But Graham knew it wasn't cruel or pointless, since he was planning to bring Trump back to power. Graham also complained that the House had impeached Trump without calling witnesses. But at the same time, Graham warned
Starting point is 00:38:07 Democrats not to call witnesses in the Senate. Graham claimed that Trump's incitement of the January 6th attack wasn't serious enough to warrant impeachment. But Graham applied no such standards to other presidents. As a congressman in the 1990s, Graham had famously led the impeachment of President Bill Clinton for covering up a sexual affair. And later, Graham would demand the impeachment of Biden for failing to stop illegal immigration. At one point, Graham actually said out loud that he was offering arguments to his Republican colleagues, quote, if you're looking for a reason to stop this impeachment and to dismiss it as soon as possible. He was openly inventing excuses to let Trump off the hook.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Graham's real reason, the only stated reason that matched his behavior, was that if Republican senators turned against Trump, Trump would destroy the party. If this party is going to survive, we've got to realize that Donald Trump had a consequential presidency for conservatives, that he's he help us in 2022 take back the House and the Senate? Because without his help, we cannot take back the House and the Senate. With his help, I think we can. Graham made that point to his colleagues repeatedly. And on February 13th, three weeks after Trump left office, Graham got his wish. 43 of the Senate's 50 Republicans voted to acquit Trump, blocking his conviction
Starting point is 00:39:49 and clearing his path to run for president again. Preparing Trump for his return would take time. There was a lot of whitewashing to do. In a poll taken during the impeachment trial, 55% of Americans said Trump should not be allowed to hold office again. But Trump still had a grip on the GOP. In the same poll, 75% of Republicans said they wanted the former president to play a prominent role in the party. And that, said Graham, was Trump's path back to power. You are the hope, the future of conservatism, Graham told Trump in a Fox News interview three days after his acquittal.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Gazing into the camera, Graham assured him, You own the Republican Party, my friend. Coming up next time on The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, Trump reasserts control of his party, and Graham joins him in a purge of dissenters. And to try to erase Donald Trump from the Republican Party is insane. And the people who try to erase him are going to wind up getting erased. It's impossible for this party. The Corruption of Lindsey Graham was reported and written by me,
Starting point is 00:41:10 Will Salatin. Katie Cooper is the producer, with audio engineering, editing, and sound design by Jason Brown. Thank you to my editors, Jonathan V. Last and Adam Kuyper, and to Charlie Sykes.

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