The Bulwark Podcast - Listen to the Indictment

Episode Date: June 10, 2023

This is a reading of the classified documents indictment against former President Trump that was unsealed by the Justice Department on Friday. Parts of the text have been edited for clarity and ease o...f listening. The recording was produced using an artificial voice generator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P, dot com. The following is a reading of the Trump classified documents indictment. Parts of the text have been edited for clarity and ease of listening. United States of America vs. Donald J. Trump and Walt Nauta Introduction 1. Defendant Donald J. Trump was the 45th President of the United States of America. He held office from January 20, 2017 until January 20, 2021.
Starting point is 00:00:57 As President, Trump had lawful access to the most sensitive classified documents and national defense information gathered and owned by the United States government, including information from the agencies that comprise the United States intelligence community and the United States Department of Defense. 2. Over the course of his presidency, Trump gathered newspapers, press clippings, letters, notes, cards, photographs, official documents, and other materials in cardboard boxes that he kept in the White House. Among the materials Trump stored in his boxes were hundreds of classified documents.
Starting point is 00:01:35 3. The classified documents Trump stored in his boxes included information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries, United States nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack, and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack. The unauthorized disclosure of these classified documents could put at risk the national security of the United States, foreign relations, the safety of the United States military, and human sources, and the continued viability of sensitive intelligence
Starting point is 00:02:12 collection methods. 4. At 12 p.m. on January 20, 2021, Trump ceased to be president. As he departed the White House, Trump caused scores of boxes, many of which contained classified documents, to be transported to the Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida, where he maintained his residence. Trump was not authorized to possess or retain those classified documents. 5. The Mar-a-Lago Club was an active social club, which, between January 2021 and August 2022, hosted events for tens of thousands of members and guests. After Trump's presidency, the Mar-a-Lago Club was not an authorized location for the storage, possession, review, display, or discussion of classified documents.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Nevertheless, Trump stored his boxes containing classified documents to others, as follows. a. In July 2021, at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, the Bedminster Club, during an audio-recorded meeting with a writer, a publisher, and two members of his staff, none of whom possessed a security clearance, Trump showed and described a plan of attack that Trump said was prepared for him by the Department of Defense and a senior military official. Trump told the individuals that the plan was highly confidential and secret. Trump also said,
Starting point is 00:03:52 As president I could have declassified it, and, Now I can't, you know, but this is still a secret. B. In August or September 2021, at the Bedminster Club, Trump showed a representative of his political action committee, who did not possess a security clearance, a classified map related to a military operation, and told the representative that he should not be showing it to the representative, and that the representative should not get too close. 7.
Starting point is 00:04:21 On March 30, 2022, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI, opened a criminal investigation into the unlawful retention of classified documents at the Mar-a-Lago Club. all documents with classification markings. Trump endeavored to obstruct the FBI and grand jury investigations and conceal his continued retention of classified documents by, among other things, A, suggesting that his attorney falsely represent to the FBI and grand jury that Trump did not have documents called for by the grand jury subpoena, B, directing defendant Waltine Nauta to move boxes of documents to conceal them from Trump's attorney, the FBI, and the grand jury. C, suggesting that his attorney hide or destroy documents called for by the grand jury subpoena. D, providing to the FBI and grand jury just some of the documents called for by the grand jury subpoena, while claiming
Starting point is 00:05:25 that he was cooperating fully. And E, causing a certification to be submitted to the FBI and grand jury falsely representing that all documents called for by the grand jury subpoena had been produced, while knowing that, in fact, not all such documents had been produced. 8. As a result of Trump's retention of classified documents after his presidency and refusal to return them, hundreds of classified documents were not recovered by the United States government until 2022, as follows. a. On January 17, nearly one year after Trump left office, and after months of demands by the National Archives
Starting point is 00:06:05 and Records Administration for Trump to provide all missing presidential records, Trump provided only 15 boxes, which contained 197 documents with classification markings. B. On June 3, in response to a grand jury subpoena demanding the production of all documents with classification markings, Trump's attorney provided to the FBI 38 more documents with classification markings. C. On August 8, pursuant to a court-authorized search warrant, the FBI recovered from Trump's office and a storage room at the Mar-a-Lago Club 102 more documents with classification markings. Trump's co-conspirator,
Starting point is 00:06:52 9. Defendant Nauta was a member of the United States Navy stationed as a valet in the White House during Trump's presidency. Beginning in August 2021, Nauta became an executive assistant in the office of Donald J. Trump and served as Trump's personal aide or body man. Notta reported to Trump, worked closely with Trump, and traveled with Trump. The Mar-a-Lago Club. 10. The Mar-a-Lago Club was located on South Ocean Boulevard in Palm Beach, Florida, and included Trump's residence, more than 25 guest rooms, two ballrooms, a spa, a gift store, exercise facilities, office space, and an outdoor pool and patio. As of January 2021, the Mar-a-Lago Club had hundreds of members and was staffed by more
Starting point is 00:07:33 than 150 full-time, part-time, and temporary employees. 11. Between January 2021 and August 2022, the Mar-a-Lago Club hosted more than 150 social events, including weddings, movie premieres, and fundraisers that together drew tens of thousands of guests. 12. The United States Secret Service, the Secret Service, provided protection services to Trump and his family after he left office, including at the Mar-a-Lago Club, but it was not responsible for the protection of Trump's boxes or their contents. Trump did not inform the Secret Service that he was storing boxes containing classified documents at the Mar-a-Lago Club. Classified Information 13. National security information was information owned by, produced by, produced for, and under the control of the
Starting point is 00:08:26 United States government. Pursuant to Executive Order 12958, signed on April 17, 1995, as amended by Executive Order 13292 on March 25, 2003, and Executive Order 13526 on December 29, 2009, national security information was classified as top secret, secret, or confidential, as follows. a. Information was classified as top secret, if the unauthorized disclosure of that information reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security that the original classification authority was able to identify or describe. B. Information was classified as secret if the
Starting point is 00:09:14 unauthorized disclosure of that information reasonably could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security that the original classification authority was able to identify or describe. c. Information was classified as confidential if the unauthorized disclosure of that information reasonably could be expected to cause damage to the national security that the original classification authority was able to identify or describe. 14. The classification marking no foreign
Starting point is 00:09:45 stood for not releasable to foreign nationals and denoted that dissemination of that information was limited to United States persons. 15. Classified information related to intelligence sources, methods, and analytical processes was was designated as Sensitive Compartmented Information, SCI. SCI was to be processed, stored, used, or discussed in an Accredited Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, CIF, and only individuals with the appropriate security clearance and additional SCI permissions were authorized to have access to such national security information. 16. When the vulnerability of, or threat to, specific classified information was exceptional, and the normal criteria for determining eligibility for access to classified information were insufficient to protect the information from unauthorized disclosure, the United States
Starting point is 00:10:41 could establish Special Access Programs, SAPs, to further protect the classified information. The number of these programs was to be kept to an absolute minimum and limited to programs in which the number of persons who ordinarily would have access would be reasonably small and commensurate with the objective of providing enhanced protection for the information involved. Only individuals with the appropriate security clearance and additional SAP permissions were authorized to have access to such national security information, which was subject to enhanced handling and storage requirements.
Starting point is 00:11:17 17. Pursuant to Executive Order 13526, information classified at any level could be lawfully accessed only by persons determined by an appropriate United States government official to be eligible for access to classified information and who had signed an approved non-disclosure agreement, who received a security clearance, and who had a need to know the classified information. After his presidency, Trump was not authorized to possess or retain classified documents. 18. Executive Order 13526 provided that a former president could obtain a waiver of the need-to-know requirement if the agency head or senior agency official of the agency that originated the classified information, 1. determined in writing that access was consistent with the
Starting point is 00:12:05 interest of national security, and 2. took appropriate steps to protect classified information from unauthorized disclosure or compromise and ensured that the information was safeguarded in a manner consistent with the order. Trump did not obtain any such waiver after his presidency. The executive branch departments and agencies whose classified documents Trump retained after his presidency. 19. As part of his official duties as president, Trump received intelligence briefings from high-level United States government officials, including briefings from the director of the Central Intelligence Agency,
Starting point is 00:12:45 the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, senior White House officials, and a designated briefer. He regularly received a collection of classified intelligence from the United States intelligence community, USIC, known as the President's Daily Brief. 20. The USIC's mission was to collect, analyze, and deliver foreign intelligence and counterintelligence information to America's leaders, including the President, policymakers, law enforcement, and the military, so they could make sound decisions to protect the United States. The USIC consisted of United States executive branch departments and agencies responsible for the conduct of foreign relations and the protection of national security. 21. After his presidency,
Starting point is 00:13:32 Trump retained classified documents originated by or implicating the equities of multiple USIC members and other executive branch departments and agencies. Trump's public statements on classified information. 22. As a candidate for President of the United States, branch departments and agencies. Trump's Public Statements on Classified Information 22. As a candidate for President of the United States, Trump made the following public statements, among others, about classified information. a. On August 18, 2016, Trump stated, In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified B. On September 6, 2016, Trump stated, We also need to fight this battle by collecting intelligence, and then protecting, protecting our classified secrets. We can't have someone in the Oval Office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified.
Starting point is 00:14:26 C. On September 7, 2016, Trump stated, One of the first things we must do is to enforce all classification rules and to enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information. D. On September 19, 2016, Trump stated, We also need the best protection of classified information. D. On September 19, 2016, Trump stated, We also need the best protection of classified information. E. On November 3, 2016, Trump stated, Service members here in North Carolina have risked their lives to acquire classified intelligence to protect our country. 23. As President of the United States, on July 26, 2018, Trump issued the following statement about classified information. As the head of the executive branch and commander-in-chief, I have a unique constitutional responsibility to protect the
Starting point is 00:15:19 nation's classified information, including by controlling access to it. More broadly, the issue of a former executive branch official's security clearance raises larger questions about the practice of former officials maintaining access to our nation's most sensitive secrets long after their time in government has ended. Such access is particularly inappropriate when former officials have transitioned into highly partisan positions and seek to use real or perceived access to sensitive information to validate their political attacks. Any access granted to our nation's secrets should be in furtherance of national, not personal, interests. Trump's retention of classified documents after his presidency. 24. In January 2021, as he was
Starting point is 00:16:07 preparing to leave the White House, Trump and his White House staff, including NADA, packed items, including some of Trump's boxes. Trump was personally involved in this process. Trump caused his boxes, containing hundreds of classified documents, to be transported from the White House to the Mar-a-Lago Club. 25. From January through March 15, 2021, some of Trump's boxes were stored in the Mar-a-Lago Club's white and gold ballroom, in which events and gatherings took place. Trump's boxes were for a time stacked on the ballroom stage. 26. In March 2021, Nauta and others moved some of Trump's boxes from the white and gold ballroom to the business center at the Mar-a-Lago Club. 27.
Starting point is 00:16:55 On April 5, 2021, an employee of the office of Donald J. Trump, Trump Employee 1, texted another employee of that office, Trump Employee 2, to ask whether Trump's boxes could be moved out of the business center to make room for staff to use it as an office. Trump Employee 2 replied, whoa, okay, so POTUS specifically asked Walt for those boxes to be in the business center because they are his papers. Later that day, Trump Employee 1 and Trump Employee 2 exchanged the following text messages. Trump Employee 2, we can definitely make it work if we move his papers into the lake room. Trump Employee 1, there is still a little room in the shower where his other stuff is. Is it only his papers he cares about? There's some other stuff in there that are not papers.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Could that go to storage? Or does he want everything in there on property? Trump Employee 2 Yes, anything that's not the beautiful mine paper boxes can definitely go to storage. Want to take a look at the space and start moving tomorrow a.m.? 28 After the text exchange between Trump Employee 1 and Trump Employee 2 in April 2021, some of Trump's boxes were moved from the business center to a bathroom and shower in the Mar-a-Lago Club's lake room. 29.
Starting point is 00:18:12 In May 2021, Trump directed that a storage room on the ground floor of the Mar-a-Lago Club, the storage room, be cleaned out so that it could be used to store his boxes. The hallway leading to the storage room could be reached from multiple outside entrances, including one accessible from the Mar-a-Lago Club pool patio, through a doorway that was often kept open. The storage room was near the liquor supply closet, linen room, lock shop, and various other rooms. 30.
Starting point is 00:18:42 On June 24, 2021, Trump's boxes that were in the lake room were moved to the storage room. After the move, there were more than 80 boxes in the storage room. 31. On December 7, 2021, NADA found several of Trump's boxes fallen and their contents spilled onto the floor of the storage room, including a document marked, Secret Slash Sl slash REL to USA FV, which denoted that the information in the document was releasable only to the Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance, consisting of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Nauta texted Trump employee 2, I opened the door and found this. NADA also attached two photographs he took of the spill.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Trump employee 2 replied, Oh no oh no, and I'm sorry POTUS had my phone. Trump's unlawful retention of this document is charged in count 8 of this indictment. Trump's Disclosures of Classified Information in Private Meetings, 32. In May 2021, Trump caused some of his boxes to be brought to his summer residence at the Bedminster Club. Like the Mar-a-Lago Club, after Trump's presidency, the Bedminster Club was not an authorized location for the storage, possession, review, display, or discussion of classified documents. 33. On July 21, 2021, when he was no longer president, Trump gave an interview in his office at the Bedminster Club to a writer and a publisher in connection with a then-forthcoming
Starting point is 00:20:16 book. Two members of Trump's staff also attended the interview, which was recorded with Trump's knowledge and consent. Before the interview, the media had published reports that, at the end of Trump's term as president, a senior military official, the senior military official, purportedly feared that Trump might order an attack on country A and that the senior military official advised Trump against doing so. 34. Upon greeting the writer, publisher, and his two staff members,
Starting point is 00:20:47 Trump stated, Look what I found. This was the senior military official's plan of attack. Read it. And just show. It's interesting. Later in the interview, Trump engaged in the following exchange. Trump. Well, with the senior military official. Uh, let me see that. I'll show you an example. He said that I wanted to attack country A. Isn't it amazing? I have a big pile of papers. This thing just came up. Look, this was him. They presented me this. This is off the record, but they presented me this. This was him. This was the defense department and him. Writer. Wow. Trump.
Starting point is 00:21:27 We looked at some. This was him. This wasn't done by me, this was him. All sorts of stuff. Pages long, look. Staffer. Mmm. Trump.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Wait a minute, let's see here. Staffer. Laughter. Yeah. Trump. I just found, isn't that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know? Staffer.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Mm-hmm. Trump. Except it is, like, that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know? Staffer. Mm-hmm. Trump. Except it is like, highly confidential. Staffer. Yeah. Laughter. Trump. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this. You attack and, by the way, isn't that incredible? Staffer. Yeah. Trump. I was just thinking because we were talking a bow, and you know, he said, he wanted to at country A and what?
Starting point is 00:22:05 Audit. Tack, staffer. You did. Trump. This was done by the military and given to me. I think we can probably write. Uh. Staffer. I don't know, we'll, we'll have to see. Yeah, we'll have to try to. Trump. Declassify it. Staffer. Figure out a. Yeah. Trump. See as president I could have declassified it. Staffer. Yeah. Laughter. Trump. Trump. See, as president, I could have declassified it. Staffer. Yeah. Laughter. Trump. Now I can't, you know, but this is still a secret. Staffer. Yeah. Laughter. Now we have a problem. Trump. Isn't that interesting? At the time of this exchange, the writer, the publisher, and Trump's two staff members did not have security clearances or any need to know any
Starting point is 00:22:45 classified information about a plan of attack on Country A-35. In August or September 2021, when he was no longer president, Trump met in his office at the Bedminster Club with a representative of his Political Action Committee, the PAC representative. During the meeting, Trump commented that an ongoing military operation in Country B was not going well. Trump showed the PAC representative a classified map of Country B and told the PAC representative that he should not be showing the map to the PAC representative and to not get too close. The PAC representative did not have a security clearance or any need-to-know classified information about the military operation. 36. On February 16, 2017, four years
Starting point is 00:23:33 before Trump's disclosures of classified information set forth above, Trump said at a press conference, The first thing I thought of when I heard about it is, how does the press get this information that's classified? How do they do it? You know why? Because it's an illegal process, and the press should be ashamed of themselves. But more importantly, the people that gave out the information to the press should be ashamed of themselves. Really ashamed. Trump's production of 15 cardboard boxes to the National Archives and Records Administration. 37. Beginning in May 2021, the National Archives and Records Administration, NARA, which was responsible for archiving presidential records, repeatedly demanded that Trump turn over presidential records that he had kept after his presidency. On multiple occasions beginning in June, Nara warned Trump through his representatives that if he did not comply, it would refer the matter of the missing records to the Department
Starting point is 00:24:35 of Justice. 38. Between November 2021 and January 2022, Nara and Trump employee 2, at Trump's direction, brought boxes from the storage room to Trump's residence for Trump to review. 39. On November 12, 2021, Trump Employee 2 provided Trump a photograph of his boxes in the storage room by taping it to one of the boxes that Trump Employee 2 had placed in Trump's residence. Trump Employee 2 provided Trump the photograph, so that Trump 40. On November 17, 2021, Nauta texted Trump Employee 2 about the photograph Trump Employee 2 had provided to Trump, stating, He mentioned about a picture of the boxes he wants me to see it. Trump Employee 2 replied, calling you shortly.
Starting point is 00:25:26 41. On November 25, 2021, Trump Employee 2 texted Nauta about Trump's review of the contents of his boxes, asking, has he mentioned boxes to you? I delivered some, but I think he may need more. Could you ask if he'd like more in Pine Hall? Pine Hall was an entry room in Trump's residence. Nauta replied in three successive text messages. Nothing about boxes yet. He has one he's working on in Pine Hall. Knocked out two boxes yesterday, 42. On November 29th, 2021, Trump employee 2 texted Nauta, asking, Next you are on property, no rush. Could you help me bring four more boxes up? Nauta replied, Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:26:11 43. On December 29, 2021, Trump employee 2 texted a Trump representative who was in contact with Nara, Trump representative 1. Box answer will be wrenched out of him today. Promise. The next day, Trump Rep. 1 replied in two successive text messages. Could see how many of his boxes were stored in the storage room. Hey, just checking on boxes. Would love to have a number to them today.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Trump employee 2 spoke to Trump and then responded a few hours later in two successive text messages. 12 is his number, 44. On January 13, 2022, NADA texted Trump Employee 2 about Trump's tracking of boxes, stating, he's tracking the boxes, more to follow today on whether he wants to go through more today or tomorrow. Trump Employee 2 replied, Thank you. 45. On January 15, 2022, NADA sent Trump Employee 2 four successive text messages. One thing he asked was for new covers for the boxes. For Monday, Emma Morning asterisk, Can we get new box covers before giving these to them on Monday? They have too much writing on them. I marked too much. Trump Employee 2 replied, Yes, I will get that. 46. On January 17, 2022, Trump Employee 2 and NADA gathered 15 boxes from Trump's residence, loaded the boxes in NADA's car, and took them to a commercial truck for delivery to NARA.
Starting point is 00:27:40 47. When interviewed by the FBI in May 2022 regarding the location and movement of boxes before the production to NARA, NADA made false and misleading statements as set forth in Count 38 of this indictment, including a. Falsely stating that he was not aware of Trump's boxes being brought to Trump's residence for his review, before Trump provided 15 boxes to NARA in January 2022. B, falsely stating that he did not know how the boxes that he and Trump employee 2 brought from Trump's residence to the commercial truck for delivery to NARA on January 17, 2022, had gotten to the residence. And C, when asked whether he knew where Trump's boxes had been stored before they were in Trump's residence, and whether they had been in a secure or locked location,
Starting point is 00:28:31 Nauta falsely responded, I wish, I wish I could tell you. I don't know. I don't. I honestly just don't know. 48. When the 15 boxes that Trump had provided reached NARA in January 2022, NARA reviewed the contents and determined that 14 of the boxes contained documents with classification markings. Specifically, as the FBI later determined, the boxes contained 197 documents with classification markings, of which 98 were marked secret, 30 were marked top secret, and the remainder were marked confidential. Some of those documents also contained SCI and SAP markings. 49. On February 9, 2022, NARA referred the discovery of classified documents in Trump's boxes to the Department of Justice for investigation. The FBI and Grand Jury Investigations. 50. On March 30, 2022, the FBI opened a criminal investigation. 51. On April 26, 2022, a federal grand jury opened an investigation. The defendant's concealment of boxes. 52. On May 11, 2022, the grand jury issued a subpoena, the May 11 subpoena, to the office
Starting point is 00:29:54 of Donald J. Trump, requiring the production of all documents with classification markings in the possession, custody, or control of Trump or the office of Donald J. Trump. Two attorneys representing Trump, Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 2, informed Trump of the May 11th subpoena, and he authorized Trump Attorney 1 to accept service. 53. On May 22, 2022, Nauta entered the storage room at 3.47 p.m. and left approximately 34 minutes later, carrying one of Trump's boxes. 54. On May 23, 2022, Trump met with Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 2 at the Mar-a-Lago Club to discuss the response to the May 11 subpoena. Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 2 told Trump that they needed to search for documents that
Starting point is 00:30:44 would be responsive to the subpoena and provide a certification that there had been compliance with the subpoena. Trump, in sum and substance, made the following statements, among others, as memorialized by Trump Attorney 1. A. I don't want anybody looking. I don't want anybody looking through my boxes. I really don't. I don't want you looking through my boxes. B. Well, what if we... What happens if we just don't respond at all or don't play ball with them? C. Wouldn't it be better if we just told them we don't have anything here? D. Well, look, isn't it better if there are no documents? 55. While meeting with Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 2 on May 23rd,
Starting point is 00:31:28 Trump, in sum and substance, told the following story. As memorialized by Trump Attorney 1, Attorney, he was great. He did a great job. You know what? He said, he said that it, that it was him, that he was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails
Starting point is 00:31:45 because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn't get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them. Trump related the story more than once that day, 56. On May 23rd, Trump also confirmed his understanding with Trump Attorney 1 that Trump Attorney 1 would return to the Mar-a-Lago Club on June 2nd to search for any documents with classification markings to produce in response to the May 11th subpoena. Trump Attorney 1 made it clear to Trump that Trump Attorney 1 would conduct the search for responsive documents by looking through Trump's boxes that had been transported from the White House 1 made it clear to Trump that Trump Attorney 1 would conduct the search for responsive documents by looking through Trump's boxes that had been transported from the White House and remained in
Starting point is 00:32:30 storage at the Mar-a-Lago Club. Trump indicated that he wanted to be at the Mar-a-Lago Club when Trump Attorney 1 returned to review his boxes on June 2nd and that Trump would change his summer travel plans to do so. Trump told Trump Attorney 2 that Trump Attorney 2 did not need to be present for the review of boxes. 57. After meeting with Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 2 on May 23rd, Trump delayed his departure from the Mar-a-Lago Club to the Bedminster Club for the summer, so that he would be present at the Mar-a-Lago Club on June 2nd, when Trump Attorney 1 returned to review the boxes. 58. Between Trump's May 23rd meeting with Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 2 to discuss the
Starting point is 00:33:18 May 11th subpoena, and June 2nd, when Trump Attorney 1 returned to the Mar-a-Lago Club to review the boxes in the storage room, NADA removed, at Trump's direction, a total of approximately 64 boxes from the storage room and brought them to Trump's residence, as set forth below. A. On May 24, 2022, between 5.30 p.m. and 5.38 p.m., Nauta removed three boxes from the storage room. B. On May 30, 2022, at 9.08 a.m., Trump and Nauta spoke by phone for approximately 30 seconds. Between 10.02 a.m. and 11.51 a.m., Nauta removed a total of approximately 50 boxes from the storage room.
Starting point is 00:34:03 C. On May 30, 2022, at 12.33 p.m., a Trump family member texted Nauta, Good afternoon, Walt. Happy Memorial Day. I saw you put boxes to POTUS room. Just FYI and I will tell him as well. Not sure how many he wants to take on Friday on the plane. We will not have a room for them. Plane will be full with luggage. Thank you. Nauta replied. Good afternoon, ma'am. Smiley face emoji. Thank you so much. I think he wanted to pick from them. I don't imagine him wanting to take the boxes. He told me to put them in the room and that he was going to talk to you about them. D. On June 1st, 2022, beginning at 12.52 p.m., Nauta removed approximately 11 boxes from the storage room. 59. On June 1, 2022, Trump spoke with Trump Attorney 1 by phone and asked whether Trump Attorney 1 was coming to the Mar-a-Lago Club the next day and for exactly what purpose. Trump Attorney 1 reminded Trump that Trump Attorney 1 was going
Starting point is 00:35:06 to review the boxes that had been transported from the White House and remained in storage at the Mar-a-Lago Club so that Trump Attorney 1 could have a custodian of records certify that the May 11th subpoena had been complied with fully. 60. On June 2, 2022, the day that Trump Attorney 1 was scheduled to review Trump's boxes in the storage room, Trump spoke with Nauta on the phone at 9.29 a.m. for approximately 24 seconds. 61. Later that day, between 12.33 p.m. and 12.52 p.m., Nauta and an employee of the Mar-a-Lago Club moved approximately 30 boxes from Trump's residence to the storage room. 62. In sum, between May 23, 2022, and June 2, 2022, before Trump Attorney One's review of Trump's boxes in the storage room, Nauta, at Trump's direction, moved
Starting point is 00:36:02 approximately 64 boxes from the storage room to Trump's residence and brought to the storage room only approximately 30 boxes. Neither Trump nor Nauta informed Trump attorney 1 of this information. The false certification to the FBI and the grand jury. 63. On the afternoon of June 2, 2022, as Trump had been informed, Trump Attorney One arrived at the Mar-a-Lago Club to review Trump's boxes to look for documents with classification markings in response to the May 11 subpoena. Trump met with Trump Attorney One before Trump Attorney One
Starting point is 00:36:37 conducted the review. Nauta escorted Trump Attorney One to the storage room. 64. Between 3.53 p.m. and 6.23 p.m., Trump Attorney 1 reviewed the contents of Trump's boxes in the storage room. Trump Attorney 1 located 38 documents with classification markings inside the boxes, which Trump Attorney 1 removed and placed in a Redwell folder. Trump Attorney 1 contacted Nauta and asked him to bring clear duct tape to the storage room, which Nauta did. Trump attorney 1 used the clear duct tape to seal the Red Weld folder with the documents with classification markings inside. 65. After Trump attorney 1 finished sealing the Red Weld folder containing the documents with classification markings that he had found inside Trump's boxes, Nauta took Trump Attorney 1 to a dining room in the Mar-a-Lago Club to meet
Starting point is 00:37:30 with Trump. After Trump Attorney 1 confirmed that he was finished with his search of the storage room, Trump asked, Did you find anything? Is it bad? Good? 66. Trump and Trump Attorney 1 then discussed what to do with the Redweld folder containing documents with classification markings and whether Trump Attorney 1 should bring them to his hotel room and put them in a safe there. During that conversation, Trump made a plucking motion, as memorialized by Trump Attorney 1. He made a funny motion as though, well okay why don't you take them with you to your hotel room and if there's anything really bad in there, like, you know, pluck it out. And that was the motion that he made. He didn't say that. 67. That evening, Trump Attorney 1
Starting point is 00:38:17 contacted the Department of Justice and requested that an FBI agent meet him at the Mar-a-Lago Club the next day, June 3, so that he could turn over the documents responsive to the May 11 subpoena. 68. Also that evening, Trump Attorney 1 contacted another Trump attorney, Trump Attorney 3, and asked her if she would come to the Mar-a-Lago Club the next morning to act as a custodian of records and sign a certification regarding the search for documents with classification markings in response to the May 11th subpoena.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Trump Attorney 3, who had no role in the review of Trump's boxes in the storage room, agreed. 69. The next day, on June 3, 2022, at Trump Attorney 1's request, Trump Attorney 3 signed a certification as the custodian of records for the office of Donald J. Trump and took it to the Mar-a-Lago Club to provide it to the Department of Justice and FBI. In the certification, Trump Attorney 3, who performed no search of Trump's boxes, had not reviewed the May 11th subpoena, and had not reviewed the contents of the Redweld folder, stated, among other things, that based upon the information that had been provided to her. A. A diligent search was conducted of the boxes that were moved from the White House to Florida. B. This search was conducted after receipt of the subpoena,
Starting point is 00:39:43 in order to locate any and all documents that are responsive to the subpoena, and c. Any and all responsive documents accompany this certification. before Trump Attorney 1's June 2nd review, so that many boxes were not searched and many documents responsive to the May 11th subpoena could not be found, and in fact were not found, by Trump Attorney 1. 71. Shortly after Trump Attorney 3 executed the false certification, on June 3rd, 2022, Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 3 met at the Mar-a-Lago Club with personnel from the Department of Justice and FBI. Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 3 turned over the Redweld folder containing documents with classification markings, as well as the false certification
Starting point is 00:40:37 signed by Trump Attorney 3 as custodian of records. Trump, who had delayed his departure from the Mar-a-Lago Club, joined Trump Attorney 1 and Trump Attorney 3 for some of the meeting. Trump claimed to the Department of Justice and FBI that he was an open book. 72. Earlier that same day, Nauta and others loaded several of Trump's boxes along with other items on aircraft that flew Trump and his family north for the summer. The court authorized search of the Mar-a-Lago Club, 73. In July 2022, the FBI and grand jury obtained and reviewed surveillance video from the Mar-a-Lago Club showing the movement of boxes set forth above, 74. On August 8, 2022, the FBI executed a court-authorized search warrant at the Mar-a-Lago Club.
Starting point is 00:41:27 The search warrant authorized the FBI to search for and seize, among other things, all documents with classification markings. 75 During the execution of the warrant at the Mar-a-Lago Club, the FBI seized 102 documents with classification markings in Trump's office and the storage room. The conspiracy and its objects, 79. From on or about May 11, 2022, through in or around August 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida and elsewhere, the defendants, Donald J. Trump and Waltine Nauta, did knowingly combine, conspire,
Starting point is 00:42:07 confederate, and agree with each other and with others known and unknown to the grand jury, to engage in misleading conduct toward another person, and corruptly persuade another person to withhold a record, document, and other object from an official proceeding, in violation of 18 U.S.C., and to corruptly conceal a record, document, and other object from an official proceeding, in violation of 18 U.S.C., and to corruptly conceal a record, document, and other object from an official proceeding, in violation of 18 U.S.C.L. the purpose of the conspiracy. 80. The purpose of the conspiracy was for Trump to keep classified documents he had taken with him from the White House and to hide and conceal them from a federal grand jury. The manner and means of the conspiracy. 81. The manner and means by which the defendants sought to accomplish the objects and purpose of the conspiracy included, among other things,
Starting point is 00:42:56 the following. A. Suggesting that Trump attorney 1 falsely represent to the FBI and Grand Jury that Trump did not have documents called for by the May 11th subpoena. B. Moving boxes of documents to conceal them from Trump Attorney 1, the FBI, and the Grand Jury. C. Suggesting that Trump Attorney 1 hide or destroy documents called for by the May 11th subpoena. D, providing to the FBI and grand jury just some of the documents called for by the May 11th subpoena, while Trump claimed he was cooperating fully, E, causing a false certification to be submitted to the FBI and grand jury representing that all documents with classification markings had been produced, when in fact they had not, and F, making false and misleading statements
Starting point is 00:43:46 to the FBI. All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1512, 83, from on or about May 11, 2022, through in or around August 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida and elsewhere, the defendants, Donald J. Trump and Waltine Nauta, did knowingly engage in misleading conduct toward another person, and knowingly corruptly persuade and attempt to persuade another person, with intent to cause and induce any person to withhold a record, document and other object from an official proceeding. That is, 1. Trump attempted to persuade Trump Attorney 1 to hide and conceal documents from a federal grand jury, and 2. Trump and NADA misled Trump Attorney 1 by moving boxes that contained documents with classification
Starting point is 00:44:37 markings so that Trump Attorney 1 would not find the documents and produce them to a federal grand jury. All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 15-12. 85. From on or about May 11, 2022, through in or around August 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida and elsewhere, the defendants, Donald J. Trump and Waltine Nauta, did corruptly conceal a record, document, and other object, and attempted to do so, with the intent to impair the object's integrity and availability for use in an official proceeding. That is, Trump and Nauta hid and concealed boxes that contained documents with classification markings from Trump Attorney 1, so that Trump Attorney 1
Starting point is 00:45:25 would not find the documents and produce them to a federal grand jury. All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 15-12-87. From on or about May 11, 2022, through in or around August 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida and elsewhere, the defendants, Donald J. Trump and Waltine Nauta, did knowingly conceal, cover up, falsify, and make a false entry in any record, document, and tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, and influence the investigation and proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of a department and agency of the United States, and in relation to and contemplation of any such matter. That is, during a federal criminal investigation being conducted by the FBI, 1. Trump and Nauta hid,
Starting point is 00:46:17 concealed, and covered up from the FBI Trump's continued possession of documents with classification markings at the Mar-a-Lago Club, and 2. Trump caused a false certification to be submitted to the FBI, all in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1519 and 2. 89. From on or about May 11, 2022, through in or around August 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida, and elsewhere. The defendants, Donald J. Trump and Waltine Nauta, in a matter within the jurisdiction of the judicial branch and executive branch of the United States government, did knowingly and willfully falsify, conceal, and cover up by any trick, scheme, and device a material fact. That is, during a federal grand jury investigation and
Starting point is 00:47:06 a federal criminal investigation being conducted by the FBI, Trump and Nauta hid and concealed from the grand jury and the FBI Trump's continued possession of documents with classification markings, all in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 102, Count 37, False Statements and Representations 18 U.S.C. 90 The general allegations of this indictment are re-alleged and fully incorporated here by reference. 91. On or about June 3, 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida, and elsewhere, the defendant, Donald J. Trump, in a matter within the jurisdiction of the judicial branch and executive branch of the United States government, did knowingly and willfully make and cause to be made a materially
Starting point is 00:47:56 false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement and representation. That is, during a federal grand jury investigation and a federal criminal investigation being conducted by the FBI, Trump caused the following false statements and representations to be made to the grand jury and the FBI in a sworn certification executed by Trump attorney 3. A. A diligent search was conducted of the boxes that were moved from the White House to Florida. B. This search was conducted after receipt of the subpoena, in order to locate any and all documents that are responsive to the subpoena. And C. Any and all responsive documents accompany this certification. 92.
Starting point is 00:48:38 The statements and representations set forth above were false, as Trump knew, because Trump had directed that boxes be removed from the storage room before Trump Attorney 1 conducted the June 2, 2022 search for documents with classification markings, so that Trump Attorney 1's search would not and did not include all of Trump's boxes that were removed from the White House. Trump Attorney 1's search would not and did not locate all documents responsive to the May 11th subpoena, and all responsive documents were not provided to the FBI and the grand jury with the certification. In fact, after June 3rd, 2022, more than 100 documents with classification markings remained
Starting point is 00:49:21 at the Mar-a-Lago Club until the FBI search on August 8, 2022. All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1001, Count 38 False Statements and Representations, 18 U.S.C. 94. On May 26, 2022, NADA participated in a voluntary interview with the FBI. During the interview, the FBI explained to NADA that the FBI was investigating how classified documents had been kept at the Mar-a-Lago club, and the FBI asked NADA questions about the location and movement of Trump's boxes before Trump provided 15 boxes to NADA on January 17, 2022. NADA was represented by counsel, and the FBI advised NADA that the interview was voluntary and that he could leave at any time. The FBI also
Starting point is 00:50:15 advised NADA that it was a criminal offense to lie to the FBI. The interview was recorded. 95. On or about May 26, 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida, and elsewhere, the defendant, Waltine Notta, in a matter within the jurisdiction of the executive branch of the United States government, did knowingly and willfully make a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement and representation. That is, in a voluntary interview during a federal criminal investigation being conducted by the FBI, Nauta was asked the following questions and gave the following false answers. Question. Does any, are you aware of any boxes being brought to his home? His suite? Answer. No. Asterisk, asterisk, asterisk. Question,
Starting point is 00:51:07 all right. So, so to the best of your knowledge, you're saying that those boxes that you brought onto the truck, first time you ever laid eyes on them, was just the day of when Trump Employee 2 needed you to, answer, correct. Question, to take them. Okay. Question. In knowing that we're trying to track the life of these boxes and where they could have been kept and stored and all that kind of stuff? Answer. Mm-hmm. Question. Do you have any information that could, that would, that could help us understand, like, where they were kept, how they were kept, were they secured, were they locked? Something that makes the intelligence community feel better about these things, you know? Answer, I wish,
Starting point is 00:51:52 I wish I could tell you. I don't know, I don't, I honestly just don't know. Question, and what? So, so you only saw the 15 boxes, 15, 17 boxes? Answer, mm-hmm. Question. The day of the move? Even? They just showed up that day? Answer. They were in Pine Hall. Trump employee 2. Just asked me, hey, can we move some boxes? Question. Okay. Answer. And I was like, okay. Question. So you didn't know? Had no idea how they got there before? Answer. No. 96. The underscored statements and representations above were false, as Nauta knew. Because, one, Nauta did in fact know that the boxes in Pine Hall had come from the storage room, as Nauta himself, with the assistance of Trump employee 2, had moved the boxes from the storage room to Pine Hall. And two, Nauta had
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