The Bulwark Podcast - S2 Ep1059: Sam Stein: The Divorce

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Elon went nuclear, accusing Trump of being a pedo, taking credit for his election victory, and calling for his impeachment. Trump in return may try to destroy Musk's businesses, or worse. While the public feud is entertaining—Thursday was one of the best days for Twitter and Steve Bannon—their meltdown is also frightening. It shows that we are at the mercy of two emotionally unstable men who can blackmail each other. Of course, Republicans and Fox desperately want the clash to end, because for starters, it could complicate the passage of a tax and spending bill that only Stephen Miller can love. Plus, JD is still a wimp, and Howard Lutnick is still a fool. Sam Stein joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes Action for Andry: Protest at SCOTUS at 5pm Friday Tim's playlist

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and manage your whole business from a centralized dashboard with expert AI tools. Build, scale, and enjoy the incredible results. You can do it all yourself on Wix. Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. We are coming at you live from DC because we have our fundraiser tonight, Free Andri, which is now sold out at the Lincoln Theater, but we have a rally beforehand over at the Supreme Court at five o'clock, so hope to see some of y'all there. I am delighted to be here with my buddy Sam Stein, managing editor of the Bullwork, and what a great day for us to be together for this. Lots of stuff happening. You know, the only

thing that sucks is like the worst time for news to happen for me for this podcast is like the early afternoon, because we tape it late morning and it goes out in the afternoon. I finished taping and then the messiest divorce in history happens. So that was a little sad, but guess what? We get to go through it minute by minute together. But before we do, obviously we got to start

with the big news of the day. And so I just, I want to go to a quick clip and we'll get to the, you know, the lead story before we get to Musk and Trump. But we begin tonight with a flurry of activity. Today at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And yes, let not your heart be troubled. I will address the battle between President Trump

and Elon Musk. I know it's of such great international importance. But first, there is fresh scrutiny surrounding Joe Biden in a hardworking auto pen. Take a look. There's Ray Block of the Hannity Show, the auto pen. Do you think there was like a debate before the show? Sean, I think we really need to do Elon.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The auto pen. Yeah, it's gotta be auto pen. Do we have anything on the Hunter laptop? How far back can we go? What Biden scandal can we get? Not a good sign, not a good day over at Fox. All right, so, so much shit happened.

And we did a bunch of videos you guys have already seen. But for the pod crew, I just want to start Thanks to our friends at The Independent for doing this. We're going to do a minute by minute chronology of the feud. And, you know, maybe just chime in with little thoughts as they come to you. Alright, so it begins at 1.44

Quote, Musk posts a slew of tweets to Ax, including one asking, where is this guy today, tweeting old Trump balanced budget statements. I missed this one. He then tweeted, the big ugly bill will increase the deficit by 2.5 trillion. So he starts getting tips the toe in. Probably should have workshopped that. Yeah, with the big, I've been doing the big fugly squat.

Yeah, that's much better than the big Probably should have workshopped that one. Yeah, I've been doing the big fugly slut. That's even much better than the big... Nobody seems to get that though. Madaglacies didn't even laugh yesterday when I said big fugly slut. Oh, I know, it's tough. Not all my material lands. All right. Then he goes on, he goes, Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle? This is when in the office, I'm just gonna give you the office reactions because you weren't here, we were like, how quickly is Nancy Jacobs in there? No label's gonna call him up. I'm like, oh wait, Rich Whiteman wishes that there was a big party that represented him in the middle. I heard this before. I don't know. I was like, one

time I did a panel at the Aspen Institute and I had seven straight questions from Rich White so we're like, why aren't there any parties that represent fiscal responsibility and social? Moderation you know so that wasn't Elon's best, but but it escalates Laura Loomer 10 to 15 it goes after Musk most says you might be making a mistake. I'm gonna be around longer than Trump yeah Then 237 Trump attacks from truth social says Musk was wearing thin, and then, so he doesn't know what happened, but he just went crazy. Same thing he said about Putin. Remember that?

He said that about Putin. Trump says a bad read on people, I guess. Didn't he put, and he put wearing thin in quotations, which I was kind of curious. Whose quote is that? I don't know. He also mentioned that he took away his EV mandate, and that's what he might be be mad about this is when it was getting a little bit juicy and we in the office We were like oh my we were we weren't freaking nobody was sitting up yet. Nobody had leaned forward yet, but I was refreshing 248 we talked about the other day like the musk rapid response element to this

I give this was a Trump feud versus John Thune. You and I talked about this. We were comparing this to Jeb. It would take four hours for John Thune to reply to anything. You know, you have to get your press secretary to draft. Musk is just fired. Eleven minutes after Trump attacks and Musk hits back. Such an obvious lie.

So sad. Then things went quiet for 22 minutes it was all silent people were like oh that's an interesting little dispute between two gentlemen I'll just say at this point in the office we were like okay wow but there we go that's it we're cool 3 10 pm the bomb

Moscow alleges Trump appears in the Fc files okay this one in the office people were screaming like legit screaming it was like oh my god mark this post for the future the truth will come out Elon says that was a reply to his tweet just files linked to the investigation of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has emerged as a point of fixation oh wait hold on yeah for Trump and his allies anyway time to drop the really big bomb. All right, so that was 3.10. 4.10, after Twitter is insane.

Almost an hour passes and Donald Trump bleats out, the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars, is to terminate Elon's government subsidies and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. That's a good hit. At this point I went to the fridge and I got a soda and a little snack. I knew I was going to be a long day and I need to hydrate.

I think the Trump hit in a vacuum pretty good. Like threatening to take the money away. Good hit. Coming right after you're a bad Oh, I don't know Donald. Maybe he's lost his fastball a little bit. What would you've done? I don't know you're Fat fuck take away your ketamine you can't even get hard. Do you have to inseminate your your doing wise? I see Trump would have gone right for the You're like Pete Trump would have gone right for the dick. Yeah. Okay, that was okay.

Elon then replies, in light of the president's statement about cancellation of my government contracts, SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately. At this point I got a little worried, honestly. I was like, are we going to have a government? I don't know. Okay. Decent, decent head there. Then Trump goes on and defends the bill, substance of the bill for it really boring for 11

Boy, the musk leans in again the independent says he seems to agree I would say he clearly agrees that Donald Trump should be replaced by Vice President JD Vance I think the word was yes. Yeah here it is Ian miles Chong a Malaysian shit poster Here it is. Ian Miles Chong, a Malaysian shit poster, posted, President vs Elon, who wins, my money's on Elon, Trump should be impeached and JD Vance should replace him. I want to note here, Elon was not tagged in this tweet. So, Elon is just like, it's like that smoking meme of Matthew McConaughey is just on X, just taking it all in

This tweet where he's not tagged quote tweets it yes, yeah Trump should be impeached I want to get back to that in a little bit 426 okay Musk attacks the tariffs Trump tariffs will cause a recession in the second half of the year like how much Musk is gonna have the biggest endorphin crash in history. I was looking at my phone, my endorphins are firing, I was like, can you imagine being E-line? He's got four phones out, he's getting the lights everywhere.

Ain't no way this guy's sleeping tonight. How many times has he peed because of the ketamine at this point? Like five? Yeah. 750, so a couple hours go by, Musk says kill the bill, call your senator, call your congressman

Bankrupt America is not okay, and then must last post for the day is a repost that says This is why Republicans will likely lose the house in 26 and Democrats will spend two years investigating and impeaching President Trump well that was not his last post for the day. It was last posted with the feud He then tried to kind of dial back and he it was a very funny moment where there was like, speaking of being weirdly following weird accounts on Twitter, he replied to like someone with like 180 followers who's like, let's tone it down a little bit. He's like, you're right. I'm not going to decommission the dragon. Like where did you find this account? Like it wasn't even responding to you. Like where did that come from? I'm telling you, Elon is just like, Elon is in the mainframe of X.

Like, he is like, it's like he is trying to become the singularity. Maybe he is receiving constant. He's got the neural link in his brain. He's just getting X-Pos sped to him. Imagine, I think about this every now and then, but imagine you're a Tesla board member, and you're watching this, and you're like, okay.

Is this man running our company? Like, what's he doing? I would be like, you need to like focus. Yeah. Like on us. Yeah, well it's kind of a side part, but the Tesla stock was going down most of the day pretty significantly. Weirdly it went up when Musk accused Trump of being a bad-ass.

I don't know if the market saw that and was like, ooh, Musk might have more power here than we thought in this fight. And I don't know, I market saw that was like who must might have more power here than we thought in this fight I'm not a professional stockpile Financial advice but what I found that interesting because being Being in the White House has not really been very good for Tesla So why did I don't know why the market reacted so negatively do you have thoughts on that well I think the prospect that must could be nuked

Like literally nuked I have you know although I guess in theory kind of if you're an investor at this point you kind of want the guy to get gone Yeah, right like focus on building cars a little bit. No. I don't try to make sense of this. This is nonsensical. Okay. Yeah, maybe it's, and JVL wrote an emergency triad last night that everybody should read. And one of the things that he pointed out is like, Trump does, and there's a worst case scenario for Elon that's pretty bad, you know, on his financially. And maybe that is the thinking here where he ends up in the sour spot where nobody's buying like the libs aren't buying the The maggots aren't buying his ugly ass truck Trump is apparently gonna sell the one he bought the red one Yeah, that was nice this morning. So yeah, so that's it. There's a little SpaceX stuff

I'm gonna get into but I don't think that's my top takeaway. We'll get to that in a second. What what so? Did you get a good night's sleep last night? Do you take a melatonin? Really? I mean it wasn't like scrolling through it or anything, but I had been hopped up on it all day Did you get a good night's sleep last night? No, not really. So you take a melatonin. Not really. I mean, it wasn't like scrolling through it or anything, but I had been hopped up on it all day. Not to the extent that Elon had, but it was definitely pouring through my veins. I was excited about it. So now is the day to breathe.

I think that there's some people that are more excited. Bill Kristol is a downer this morning. He's feeling more like that Trump will come out of this ahead. What's your global takeaway? Bill convinced me. I got to you what's your bill convinced me I gotta be honest bill definitely convinced me so Bill's take is that um well that Trump has I think this is Bill's word Trump has Elon's balls like in a vice don't crystal said Trump yeah but you can read it in morning shot what I added I just assumed that was an edited line from you. What I edited is I had, and he has big balls.

But Bill took that out. Big balls the person. Yeah, big balls the person. Fuck Bill. No, but Bill's convincing because I think here, it means basic like Trump could at any moment just say, you know what, we are going to nationalize Space Force. And by the way, we need to launch an investigation

into this because we don't want someone so unstable, you know, running these companies who's a government contractor and like, there's plenty of government levers. If you're sitting there being like, well, that would be really abusive of the government for Trump to do something like that. I beg you to look at what Trump's done. So you know, I think Elon, well, I don't know if Elon's rational to recognize that he's kind of screwed here and Elon's cards, I think he, well I don't know if Elon's rational to recognize that he's kind of screwed here. And Elon's cards, I think he basically played yesterday.

You are a pedophile and you are in the F-scene. He threw like, I don't know, does he have a bigger haymaker than that? We don't know. We don't know. He's got some picks. I mean, what was the black eye? Maybe Trump punched him. You know, who knows? I think there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes. We don't know exactly what he could have. and he's sleeping at Mar-a-Lago

in the White House that's so I don't know he might have insight on Trump's private behavior that other people don't have I think he could have more cards it's a compelling case that I think Trump certainly is gonna win the Elon fight in the sense of like who ends up with more political power like etc Trump has a base of support like just as we were joking earlier the idea that Some rich Silicon Valley guy is gonna start a party of moderates. It's like we tried that buddy It's called the Innovation Party. It's gonna be Zuckerberg and Jim Bandai. Yeah, we've been down the road Trying it like that, so I don't think that's gonna work

I think that the political base wants the mega culture war stuff I think that the threats to Trump here are also pretty real. And I know that you might want to diminish it. And this is maybe my critique of your old pals in the mainstream media. It's like, it's hard to contextualize this stuff appropriately because it's so crazy and you're just like, how do I cover this? What do I do? But it's like Donald Trump's top advisor

and top donor, the key man that helped him get elected, thinks that he should be impeached and removed from the presidency. Like that is a massive story. And I do, I think it's... I'm not saying it's not. I know you don't think it is, but it's like because of like, they benefit from the clownishness of this, right? You know what I mean? If this, like let different world. We're like six months into the Biden presidency. Who would be the Elon equivalent? Alex Saurus? Yeah, I was talking to somebody closer, advisor Anita or McDonaldin or something. Yeah sure, whoever. Some Biden advisor writes an op-ed that's like, I think that the president should be impeached and removed. He doesn't have his faculties.

He's been lying to you about his health and And he's on a pedophiles And he's on a pedophiles spot list Like I do think that the front page story of the post the next day would be Biden's top advisor calls for impeachment and removal. Yes, and that didn't happen today. Was it not on the front page? I mean, there's plenty stories was plenty stories But you're right Kind of way right and so anyway, I think that that and alone is we're so conditioned to the circus with Trump that it's right Oh, well, it's another chapter, but if you object in this I think I said this online the other day

When it was all transpiring which is like I'm deeply genuinely like entertained by all this I'm also like really really frightened by it. It's concerning. It's incredibly concerning that these two men who are incredibly, the most powerful two men in the world probably, among them. Really? Are so emotionally unstable, have so much potential blackmail over each other, are so distracted.

Like again, I like... Friedrich Merz was in the Lincoln bedroom all this was happening? have so much potential blackmail over each other are so distracted like again I Like Friedrich Mertz was in the Lincoln bedroom all this was happening just as a quick aside the Chancellor of Germany Did you and we can imagine being this guy and he's like yeah, I have some tea. Yeah, he's like, you know I'm trying to like save Ukraine. It sounds like hold on I'm gonna threaten the government contracts of space and then it's um and then like we didn't begin the circus things like We're not even gonna talk about it, but yesterday with Mertz He was like you must have been really upset when the Nazis lost and I was like holy shit But like that doesn't register. Yeah, anyways my there's something underneath all the show is some really like

obvious Sirens about where we are as a society. Yeah, no, the society's in a bad place and so is the White House. So I guess I'm going to say that's just in a vacuum in any other world. The idea that your top advisor would say you should be impeached and removed in a pedophile is very bad for you politically. Maybe that won't help for Trump. Trump's polls are going to go up.

You know, it's never really happened. Carl Rove, I don't believe ever ever accused George W. of being a pedo. So, you know, anyway. I think that also, the political power, you know, this political fight between the techno-fascists and the MAGA, it's real. There's like a power struggle. Trump obviously has more political power in the sense of there are more voters who care about him right like if he if there was a primary between Trump and Musk he would win 85 to 15 or 90 to 10 but power in the different sense like not the direct voter sense like you know

obviously there's a lot of influence in Silicon Valley it benefited Trump a lot I know that it gave the Democrats this opportunity to be like oligarchs or whatever but also like really helped Trump that the owners of all the biggest communications platforms were sucking up to him and that these huge donors were the VCs were sucking up to him and the crypto guys. It's a different type of oligarch too. It's like these guys represent the future. They're innovation oligarchs, not old bankers. So it felt like a little different politically. Yeah and so I think it gave him a lot of some benefits You know just direct benefits and like how their platforms treated him, etc, etc

But also like future political opportunity for Maga read this idea that like you could coalesce You know the cletus is and the evangelical Christians and like the traditional Republicans and also add in these kind of non like Christians and like the traditional Republicans and also add in these kind of non like Ideological really like tech bro Kind of crowd like that was an important add to the Trump coalition this time for 2016 and that definitely feels in threat right now So it's funny that you're just articulating it out loud But it's bringing me back a little bit to what Democratic politics actually used to be, which is this you have this pretty wide tent yeah, and usually the main players either have to sort of align themselves with the moneyed interest or the populists and

That was not always the case necessarily with Republicans, but this is the result of an expanding coalition Yeah, and so, you know Trump's Trump's real talent has been he's managed to bridge the two. And I don't know, that might be the ultimate thing here is like it might not be bridgeable anymore because really it's like, you know, you have Steve Bannon basically telling Trump that he does in fact need to nationalize space force and oh, by the way, maybe deport Elon Musk,

like at this point. And then- Yeah, we're getting to that. Yeah, and we're gonna get into that. So, but that is true. And it's forcing forcing it may force these The Republican lawmakers to kind of take a side in this fight in a way that they haven't really had to choose this type of stuff Before a couple other I think top implications of where Musk has a little bit more some power

It's number one is it I guess it's Politico your old pals are reporting that there's gonna be a call today They're gonna try to do a truce. Yeah, but that's been kind of debunked has it yeah, so Trump made a couple first of all This is fun because Trump's like calling every reporter in DC whose phone number he said he's called today So far just that we know he's called Bob Costa Dana bash Dasha Burns and Jonathan Karl so at least four people they've talked to Trump Oh, yeah, there's your phone on do not disturb you might want to leave it on just in case So at least four people, they've talked to Trump on the phone. Is your phone on Do Not Disturb? You might want to leave it on just in case.

Missed it. And each call, he's telling every single reporter, I'm not even thinking about Elon, which is like self-refuting. Don't worry, I'm not thinking about it. I'm just telling you, I'm not thinking about it. It's like the guy on the banana sandwich. We're looking for the guy. Don't know who did it.

But he's also dismissed the idea that he's going to have a phone call with Elon. So I don't think there's gonna be that today. And I also just, so generally, my point was even if they did get to a truce, which I think is possible, who knows, that they would try to, it's not really sustainable. And this I think goes to the Elon psychology.

There have been kind of two schools of thought on Elon from the start. There was one that this was a huge corruption scheme and that he wanted from his AI whatever to gather as much information as possible from the government, he wanted to expand Starlink and he was using this to enrich himself. And there's maybe some overlap between these theories, but like that was his core intention. Then there's another theory, which is that his brain has been broken by his own app. And like the fact that his, you know, daughter was trans, and then he gets on X,

and that he is, he's doing all these drugs, and that his brain is broken, and he is just a rabid poster, and he ended up getting radicalized and maggot, and that's why he's doing this, and he doesn't actually give a fuck about his companies or the money. And I was always more in camp to he just to me reads like somebody who's completely unstable And has lost his mind and I know some of these people I have some of them in my life people who've gone taking the magpil Rather than somebody who is like really? You know strategically trying to manipulate the government and if that is right if the theory that his brain is broken is right he can't trust Because he loans online all day and so something's gonna happen that like they can have a short-term truth

But then something will happen that you were joking about this when you said something about posters posters are gonna post He wants a poster. He wants gonna post and so Posters that you know nearer Near is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Nira Tandon. But she's kind of getting back in the game. She's getting back in the game a little bit. She's reeled in as she was sent in for American Progress. It was an epic Hillary poster, Neo-Lib Hillary poster.

Like, really, really strong game. And then went to work for Biden and chilled. I don't believe that Nira was doing like a Ketamine meth snowball. Nira? And so it makes, I thinkero was doing like a Ketamine meth snowball. And so it makes, I think it was easier for her to reform maybe than Elon. You don't really know Nero then. And so I don't see it.

And this bill, and so this takes me to my second point, which is that this bill is gonna continue going through. It's created real political problems for the bill. Does it mean that it won't pass? I don't know. But it's made it much more fraught. And you don't really think think that Elon is like on Twitter 20 hours a day is gonna not shitpost this bill as it continues to go through the process

Obviously, he's gonna keep shitposting it now and there's certain Rubicon's he's cross that you can't uncross like shame on you if you support this So yeah, call your lawmaker Yeah, but I was thinking more like once you say this man's on the Epstein list Like I don't think you can put that genie back in a bottle call your lawmaker. But I was thinking more like, once you say this man's on the Epstein list, like I don't think you can put that genie back in the bottle. I also think that- I don't know. And the VP did say Trump might be Hitler.

That's true. So it's possible to get the genie back in the bottle is Trump, I think. That's true, I guess. It kind of got lost a little bit in this, but probably something that'll bother Trump is that he claimed credit for Trump winning. And Trump does not ever want to hear something like that.

So, you know, I think Trump will be aggrieved at it about that. I think ultimately the effect on the bill is not that it's gonna convince lawmakers to vote against it. I think, and you know I talked about this, I think what it does is it creates a bit of space for lawmakers who are already not for it to say, you know what, I kind of agree that We need to do more and like maybe we should pump the brakes a little bit and like let's get more deficit reduction here

And and then does he ongoing so crazy make that actually harder for some of the Republicans. Yes, there's a Shirley yeah, if he's like totally On the deficit maybe the you know the Freedom Caucus guys might have been like I'm with Elon But if he's like Trump is a pedophile who should be removed from office. Thanks a little harder I think that's I mean Elan's out there like his takes on Trump are now more extreme than any MSNBC primetime No prime time who said who has said the prime time and you said that you might get like Trump might go after the network I'm gonna call from the boss. Yeah, it would be bad. Yeah, it was um, it's not something that normal people say Yeah, so Republicans it's hard It makes it harder for them to be with he is still rich and he does still have the capacity to like amplify

X in your favor if you so let's say you're just like random Freedom Cau caucus member who isn't in love with the bill and you can now say, okay, you know what, I agree on the principles that he's talking about and then Musk starts boosting you and he makes you into a hero, he throws a bunch of money behind you. I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but now that is a component of this legislative debate. I think it's also, we discussed this a little bit

before us all went down with Iglesias yesterday, but he is very focused on how do you raise the salience of this bill, because his point is like, this is unpopular. So if you get to the Democrats thinking on this, like, cutting taxes for the rich and cutting Medicaid is not popular. And so does just Elon talking about how awful it is make people who otherwise wouldn't even be paying attention to this, like, aware of this bill bill Maybe that's harmful for the bill so the issue for Democrats I think is that with Elon he doesn't like about this bill is not what they give a shit

I mean like they have a say on for tax sure but just like you know even talking attention to an unpopular thing is maybe But if you know it's like being like it is just you're responsible for us to cut Medicaid like this right Democrats make hell Yeah, it's fun But that's not what he's saying and so it becomes a little bit of a bank shot. I think Edgar, Andrew Edgar in Today's Morning Shots sort of made the case, well, you can make it about like these two, you know, men who are in a dick measuring contest are just basically trying to figure out how to like... A really small ruler for that contest. That's like preschool kid rulers.

You can't get a regulation size. Okay. It's a mom and pop process. Let's just make it about them being like KS agents who you're entrusting them to handle your healthcare and your taxes and you sort of tie to their general unpopularity. But I don't know, I mean Democrats should be like, look, he thinks

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Yeah, that's if you want to troll go to mosque or Shree what's his name Shree the one congressman who tried to He's right in between they were like, please do not Three and Eli are the only guys out there. Yeah, I guess I'm a little bit I was in your camp yesterday on like this isn't that helpful for Democrats because it's focusing on the debt and deficit rather than the real you unpopular stuff But I don't know man part of this now I just think it trickles out into the world in a way that it wouldn't have otherwise and the like people who do not really Care how do they view it? Yeah, they're just they start to be like wait a minute Okay So what is this thing that they're fighting about? And it like

increases the data time and it cuts taxes for rich people and it cuts Medicaid. Like who's for that? I get like, Stephen Miller is really like the only person who seems passionately for this bill that I can tell. And so I just I think that if you get that out into the ether more, I don't know, I think maybe it can be an opportunity for Democrats. The opportunity is to just sow dissent in the Republican ranks, right? It's like, you know, get them, get the party's base upset with Trump for abandoning fiscal conservatism. And, you know, you divide the opposition and that's your benefit. I don't think it's like, oh, we're going to like turn people into like staunch defenders of Medicaid because what do you know, I don't think that's really what I think it also puts a little bit of

a damper on like Republicans going around talking about how great it is. Yes, 100%. So that's their sales pitch. So that's the so division things like if you have even like 10%, 20% the part it's like, actually, this book kind of sucks. I agree with Elon. Then it becomes more problematic and then you'll start to see in the polls

that the popularity of the bill goes down and then that creates its own news cycle. And then you start seeing a little bit of snowball effect. Which is why I think they're trying to rush this thing through, I mean, they cannot spare any time on this. You set the gold standard for your business. Your website should do the same. Wix puts you at the helm so you can enjoy the creative freedom

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You can do it all yourself on Wix. Okay, a couple side journeys. JD Vance, the vice president, who is the's like the human that most represents the kind of concentric the overlapping circles yeah between the tech fascists and the fascist yeah he's right in the middle of the Venn diagram and so it's a little bit of a sticky wicket for him politically because he's gonna stay with his patron Trump but you know I mean

assuming that there's an open primary in 2028 and like he's gonna stay with his patron Trump, but you know I mean assuming that There's an open primary in 2028 and like he's gonna want the tech guys to be with it You know do you with him Peter Thiel is his main patron? Yeah, so how does he play this he's posted two posts about this one tweet was a selfie of hit with him and Theo Vaughn Mm-hmm, please he's gonna do the Theo Vaughn pod Which as soon as I saw that my heart sank because I was like, God, this means I have to spend two hours watching JD Vance and Theovon. Yeah.

So that sucks. Cracking some weird jokes and laughing uncomfortably. The other one was, President Trump has done more than any person in my lifetime to earn the trust of the movement he leads. I'm proud to stand beside him. You notice he wasn't mentioned in that. Elon? No. It was kind of limp, I thought. Kind of. Exceedingly limp. I mean Trump's out there being like Elon's gone mad and crazy like this guy needs to get off those drugs and

JD's just like I like President Trump. That's pretty limp. I'd expect more from my VP. He's earned the trust of the movement and I guess what he's trying to say is like People should stick with Trump. I guess that's what he's trying to say is like again. What is that? I mean, that's that's like a very defensive defense It's like if you really you should have said Elon's totally wrong Trump is the man and this is bullshit and I'm sad that Elon's having this breakdown like that would be a normal statement But yeah, I don't know. And it also feels like it could be said

about kind of anybody. It was not a very, so the JD thing, in the end, what will matter for JD is if this administration is a total disaster or not, and if he can stay in Trump's good graces. And that's basically it. Those are essentially the two things that matter to him. I don't think that at the end of the day,

if I expect the next three years to be a total fucking shit show and that people will be ready to move on, I could be wrong from that. I've been wrong before, we'll see. But let's assume it's just normal crazy. There's no big recession, bad shit happens, but like within the normal bounds of football, you know, of Trumpy football.

Just every now and then the top advisor calls for an impeachment. The normal bounds. Well, I mean, they stormed the Capitol last time and got reelected, so I'm just trying to sense like the Trumpy bounds. And I guess, let me rephrase it. People's lives aren't materially hurt like MAGA people.

Immigrants lives are really hurt, lots of people like that, but MAGA people's lives aren't materially hurt and Trump sticks with him and Trump steps aside normally and he runs. It's gonna be very tough to beat. You know what I mean? Like it's not and the tech guys will know he's one of them, right? So I don't know that it's quite as sticky as it seems like and I think that the play for him is pretty clear He's got a stick with daddy Trump and it would have to be pretty ugly I think to blow back on and I think the general Lesson is that everything is ephemeral in Trump years, right? It's like everything that we think is like massively consequential

eventually recedes into our Memories like you know three weeks ago. We thought the Qatari airline gift was gonna be a huge scandal. He just accepted the plan and we moved on. I haven't moved on. You've moved on. Have I? Yeah, spiritually I think you have. I feel really read by that because honestly I kind of have. I don't give a fuck about the Qatari plan. I actually hope I go back to my initial take when he was on it. We were talking about how this one is gonna stick. I was not. That was not me. Fine that quote. This one's breaking through.

That does not sound like me at all. That was not me. Fine. It was me. It might have been you on the weekend hit on MSNBC. I too. So JD's just got, I think JD probably knows this too. I mean, JD was out there saying Haitians were eating dogs. So we were like, this, this is gonna ruin it. It's a little harder to weather the storm

if Elon keeps shitposting, I guess. It's a little harder to weather the storm if people are suffering because of your policies, including the MAGA people. If coronavirus hits and like, there's 20 million unemployed overnight, that's when it's hard to weather the storm. Fingers crossed.

Oh right, a couple other side plots. You mentioned earlier, but the Bannon of it. Yeah, we have a there's a strange JVL Steve Bannon Alliance that is developing. I know it makes me uncomfortable to even mention but I want to hear Bannon and then we'll talk about and for any fan boys that still exist While you're wrapping up in your cape tonight, understand on Doge, there was, he didn't find any fraud. There's plenty of fraud out there. He didn't find, this was President Trump's first complaint. Was this all BS, right?

With the, with the, with the Doge. The acts should, that President Trump should be taking immediately, I think, when he threatens to take one of the big programs out of SpaceX. President Trump tonight should sign an executive order Calling for the Defense to Production Act to be called in SpaceX and seize SpaceX tonight before midnight seize SpaceX tonight It didn't happen for the record. They did not the states. I was not seized. That's bold for man JVL has been calling for a while. I think even during Biden times.

He'll correct me if he did so again in the triad, which people should go read on thebork.com to nationalize SpaceX for a little bit maybe like less cheeky reasons than Bannon does. No, very much less cheeky reasons. I mean Elon basically proved JVL's point when he said, oh, I'm going to decommission the dragon. It's like, oh, you're going to, one man can just, you know, decide that we're going to like leave astronauts abandoned in space. Like, is that really in our national interest

to have like all our space policy kind of at the whims of one ketamine infused nut job? No. Good. Yeah. I would like, maybe we need to bring in a space expert on YouTube to give me some I'd like to see some policy options put in front of me if you know I was if President Tim was out there because the word nationalized

gives me a little of course you're a little like it I get uncomfortable if I hear the word nationalized I don't like C's I really don't like C's so bad when Bayard wants to see something yeah I like that word incorporate here's the other like SpaceX has done better than NASA yeah Barry over here is a big big proponent he broke through the cartel it's done better I got that's just a fact you don't have to like it you know I like you line so I don't think that we should take our terrible shitty space program and take over even successful one so is there there a middle ground I guess that I'm looking for?

I don't know I'm not an expert in law if you could ideally like put in the government the power to like put in a different CEO I hereby declare you like not CEO. Can we have a guy from the government in like in like a corner office just watching Elon don't touch your pill What was in the office where they put Milton down in the basement? Actually just like when big decisions happen you got to bring Milton up or you just create like a Truman show type system Where you on things he's running? Yeah, I don't know but it makes me a little uncomfortable that the war room and the bulwark are calling for the same thing But I think JVL's arguments have been very Like legit and policy based for a while. And he also adds like, I mean his point is it's gonna have to happen and it's better that it happens with

Donald Trump doing it than Joe Biden or whoever else is a Democrat. Yeah, I don't have the audio but Bannon had a couple other suggestions. Bannon has never liked Elon. If anybody was... I know all the Libs thought that yesterday was your best day, it was our best day, the Resistance. Nobody was having a better day yesterday than Steve Bannon. He was literally a pagan shit. I mean, he was rolling around in some... Dude is on NPR this morning. He's like, how are you doing the rounds?

Rubbing his nipples between the three shirts. He's hated Elon for a long time, and so he loves us. And so he was charming. He might have put on a fourth-collared shirt. It got so hot. He was chiming in on how Elon should maybe be deported. There's another strange alliance. Congressman Adam Smith of Washington also suggested this. Did he say that? Democratic congressman. So maybe a little bit over his skis. But I don't know. I feel similar to this as I do about the Epstein situation.

Like, it does seem to me to be true that Elon was an illegal immigrant in the country, and maybe DHS should look into that in the same way that it does seem to be true that Donald Trump was involved in a very deep way with Jeffrey Epstein and maybe has covered up some of his involvement and that should be Looked into I kind of think that those are both legitimate that they're trolls and legitimate. What do you think? I mean, I do I have to respond I'm not ready to go down You don't think the DHS secretary Krist Dino should look into you lines immigration Okay on on a on a if you see from from Missouri or whatever Do I think I would enjoy watching it all transfer? Yes, I would I would go and get another, you know

So certain some popcorn I'd sit back and hit refresh our necks. I think when we have the government like Targeting critics and deporting them. That's a problem. But maybe I'm against that too yeah I'm against the government targeting critics and deporting them. Again I will say though that they've set a policy in this administration. They have. What's good for the goose right? Yeah and their policy is basically like no exceptions on immigration rules. Does it apply to people who came here lately but have since become citizens I don't know I mean they've been you know they've been taking random like ladies that have been in the working at diners work in the next thing we know we're gonna get a picture of you on with

13 transposed on his knuckles look we didn't see when he was at Doge, but it was right there They've been taken you know they took the high school kids who are on the honor roll Saying they're clean. I'm just saying Just are going through everybody's files. Sure. I mean, yeah, let's see. What do you think about the white africaners? Would he come back in It was a great day on the X platform, I know that makes some people uncomfortable Let's actually do this. Yes.. Yesterday obviously was a great day on X. And I might guess that it was the best day in a long time.

What was your best day? The best day ever was when Trump got COVID. That was a creative idea. Trump getting COVID was the best day on X, or Twitter was Twitter then, and it was the best day by far. It's hard to even think of a close second, honestly. That one was so much better than everything else, but I'll have to, I'm sure.

When he was flown to Walter Reed and we were like, oh my god. I have a few text chains that are going to be disappointed with me, so please nominate for me some other candidates. Yeah, we should come back and circle back on the best days of my life. Okay, well my two favorite posts yesterday, one was, this is like the Kendrick verse Drake beef with two drakes And the other one was Trump's new policy towards white Afrikaners, and it was that guy jumping around going kill the bar That was good, so do you think the white Afrikaners should feel a little nervous? Maybe. Yeah, probably. Their champion is no longer there. All those doge people, are they going to be tossed? Speaking of white Afrikaners, is David Sachs? Do we know who's that? David Valls?

Who gets custody? Valls Sachs is on? Has he posted? Okay, we're going to look to see if David Valls Sachs is posted. There are a lot of people who are going to be caught in the middle here. Running a business is hard work. Building your website shouldn't be. With Wix, you can express your ideas, give direction, then leave the heavy lifting to AI, from site creation to branded content and images. Have fun with the details.

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He has always cared about the environment. He also has always cared about the debt and deficits. And he still has some concerns about the trans thing but other than that like he pretty much has seen the air of his ways and him and Bill Gates are gonna go to Africa together. Is that possible? That's fantasy right? Well your podcast guest yesterday Metaglacius proposed maybe you know some sort of detente there. An armistice? Yeah again I'm a moving target here, because I initially was like, of course you let him back in.

The enemy, the enemy, right? But then I kind of thought about it, and he is so crazy, and he's so unpopular, and he also did so much damage. Just even the USAID stuff alone, it's like, you can't let someone like that back in. Like, what would it say about your moral values? It doesn't mean you can't use them strategically, and I'm assuming they will, right? Like, they should, but like, you know,

maybe if you want to take some of his cash quietly, probably you should do that, but boy, I wouldn't be like, Elon's not one of us yeah I don't I don't think it's possible because it goes back to my earlier point what is his popularity rating among Democrats gotta be zero it's like close right close to zero how do you how do you let someone like actually like this guy it's like yeah I don't think so and the other thing is it goes back to my you have to

you have a theory of the case of what happened to Elon, and if your theory is mine, which is his brain has been broken by the internet, he's not capable. Like, he's deep in poster brain. He's still like retweeting, again, like random white nationalists. He's too far lost, I feel like, at this point. Wouldn't it be pretty funny, though,

if he did the opposite and starts retweeting lib posters, like the Krasensteins? Like like lib posters like the krassenstein's Did we miss I'm going through to see if there any other side plots, I pulled up drudge This is a great day for drudge Yeah, I'm just gonna read a couple of headlines if you want to weigh in on any of them Sure must says Republicans should side with him because Trump will die first. True. We've got here, Russia offers Musk asylum. Did they really?

Apparently. I didn't see that one. I haven't seen that one. Let's see, Trump's hints of Musk's drug use, Bannon to Port Elan, we covered that. Oh, the Sergio Gore. There's a picture of Sergio Gore, if you don't know him, he's this super dork dweeb that used to work for Rand Paul. His picture is on Drudge right now doing the raised fist,

because apparently- He started this. He was like, apparently Sergio Gore started this. So the back story is Sergio- He was like a guy that when I go to parties in DC like 13 years ago He would be like in the corner like being very weird like hoping girls could talk to him like to his blackberry He's like an incredible power broker and Trump's white. Yeah, so he basically the the backstory is that he killed the NASA administrator Job and that was an Elon guy

And he did it because he showed Donald Trump that the guy had donated to Democrats And jump him like that and then Elon flipped out over that and that's what precipitated all this So Sergio Gore started all this Apparently that is wild. All right two other Troubled stories before we get to the Commerce Secretary closing segment Reagan National Airport will close. Okay, this is fucking I'm mad about this one. Go ahead saying it will close during the President's birthday bash and slash the military parade. We're closing down Reagan National Airport

I'm supposed to fly out of Reagan that day. Yes. I'm supposed to go. I thought you were pissed out about it on principle Inconvenience you gotta go to Dulles now. That's your final straw with Trump. Oh there he is! Send me to Dulles! I'm supposed to go to Fenway with my little kid for a baseball game and it's gonna get fucked by Trump. Motherfucker.

It's just wrong. Any other president who would do this shit I mean, it would be like a scandal of epic proportions closing the airport 40 million dollars on a parade that's gonna tear up DC streets. It's nutty. It's totally insane. He's not a fucking king That's why they're having no Kings rallies that day people should go June 14th to we're gonna cover it as a site I'm gonna be in New Orleans at the protest, okay? Yeah, sure nobody's might be to speak yet

My other aside thing I mentioned this before we came and you're you're less excited about this than me So maybe I'll just do it but Trump's did a bleep this morning about how Jerome Powell should cut rates again But a very direct call from the cut rates that Europe's already cut we should cut we need to it'll be a big boom and This is going to a bad place and I think that my reasoning here is that Yeah, Trump does this stuff a lot. There's a lot of bluster and all this but he's in a pickle Where with this bill and and all that and the and the trillions that are going to debt like interest rates are gonna be high his whole presidency Mm-hmm like that's just true And so I do think that like eventually this is gonna come to a head and like these guys cut rates a little bit

And it probably wouldn't matter that much actually and that gets into the kind of econ dork stuff Oh, yeah, and it's that's the reason to knock up rates as you want an arrow in the quiver, right? Right when you're gonna need it Yeah And so I just think that like the whole and when you listen to like a buddy Joe Weisenthal and I bought like all these Econ dorks like the worst-case scenario Essentially is like Trump getting rid of Powell Just you know because of how that would roiled the markets and and what the downstream effects would be and I just like that feels To me like a little more likely today than yesterday. I guess that's all I'm saying. Yes, maybe. I mean he's always been deeply frustrated with Powell and he makes it

publicly known. There was a recent Supreme Court case that seemed to suggest that they would stand up the independence of the Fed, but you don't know until you don't know, right? And like who knows what Trump's capable of if he gets mad if the economy goes south. I think that's what you know this is we don't appreciate this part enough and this is what I think you know even with all the must drama it's like this is the shit that's happening when things are relatively stable right that's the scary part for me is like things are not bad I mean if they are bad it's because Trump made them bad himself so it's not like but

when things do get bad and they get bad in every presence There's no really external force like new you know and like the Russian invasion like some stuff I mean all that stuff was already happening It all predated him all the liberation day stuff was of his own making and then he backed off of it, right? But when things do get bad and they will because it oh, that's just how it works Like then we don't really know what Trump is going to do and what he's capable of. And so while it seems incredibly dramatic

and off the rails right now and it is, I'm like a little bit anxious, a little bit really anxious for what happens when it when the external stuff. Because things are more rickety. Like obviously COVID and all that was really bad. But like when COVID hit and like that was, you know big crisis of his first term things are pretty good I like the Trump part the drama the craziness his behavior he did get impeached before COVID but that was I just mean

like geopolitically and economically it's really like like like there like there were not like you know huge disruptions overseas or had been a terrorist attack economically we were pretty stable here right yeah like things are much more rickety now than that I guess is my point just like the US economy is way more rickety than was in 2019 The global environment like there are a lot more hot spots a lot more bullshit happening than there was back then So anyway, I'm with you All right, I'm looking directly into the camera for the YouTube viewers. The final segment. The Commerce Secretary was over on the Hill this week, and I want to play a couple clips

from it. You know that he's my favorite member of the cabinet. Is he? Well, in some ways, we'll talk about that. And before I name him, I want to go to Senator Jerry Moran from... You forget Senator Jerry Moran exists, you forget senator Jerry man exists by the way I get like there's way more forget there's these whole Category of Republican senators from the before times who just like don't want you to remember that they exist

They don't name those senators from Idaho reach and crepe. Oh damn. Do you good? I'm a fucking professional political podcast host All right the senator from Kansas Addressing the Commerce Secretary Barry, please play that Secretary not not that thank you for your testimony today I look forward to working closely with you and throughout the appropriations process Barry play that one more time secretary not not that thank you for your testimony today I look forward to working closely with you and throughout the appropriations process

I look forward to working closely with you and throughout the appropriations process. He does it twice! Nutlick! Senator Nutlick! I gotta tell ya, Secretary Nutlick, I gotta tell ya, Sam, it has been extremely challenging for me to not say Nutlick on MSNBC. And I have to like sit there when I'm on

Deadline White House and when she- Have you slept? No, I haven't yet. But like, when, I think it was earlier this week that Nicole started playing some clips and And I'm sitting in the chair. I'm just in my head. I'm going lot Nick lot Nick Don't do not like lot Nick lot Nick lot Nick I have to talk to myself in my brain to make sure I don't call him Howard nut like on MSNBC I think Jerry Moran's giving me some cover though now is what I'm saying. So it might be happening. I think it might be happening. All right. I want to play a couple of the other clips of Nutlick on the Hill.

It was an exchange between him and my senator from Louisiana, John Kennedy, and another exchange with Madeline Dean, Congresswoman from Pennsylvania. Vietnam, for example, came to you tomorrow and said, okay, Mr. Secretary, you win, we're going to remove all tariffs and all trade barriers. Would the United States please do the same? Would you accept that deal? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

That would be the silliest thing we could do. What's the tariff on bananas Americans? By the way, love bananas. We buy billions of them here. I love bananas. What's the tariff on bananas? The tariff on bananas would be Representative of the countries that produce them and what what's that tariff? Generally 10% correct 10% Walmart has already increased the cost of bananas by 8 percent. There's no uncertainty if you build in America and you produce your product in America, it will be no tariff.

We can't produce bananas in America. So the concept of building in America and paying no tariff is very, very clear. We cannot build bananas in America. This man ran Cantor Fitzgerald. Howard Nutlick. What is happening? He wants us to build banana groves? Where?

I don't think he knows what he's talking about. But I think he does. His belief is that if he can do it with enough infectious enthusiasm, he'll just bullshit his way through it. It's really amazing. The banana thing is too funny. And yes, I know you love bananas. Banana daiquiris, really, are my favorite.

My dad is... I don't think anyone loves bananas more than my dad. Really? My dad has had a banana every morning with his cereal for every day for like some of the... No, we calculated once. Does he cut it up and put it in the cereal? Carry up, slice it in the cereal.

We calculated... And this is no joke. We calculated this once. We discovered that if you do the math, he's had something like 17,000 bananas over the course of his life. What is your dad's first name? Steven. Steven Stein?

Yeah. Just every morning gets out his little knife, because God's the man. Does he like them green or brown? Oh, that's a good question. Whenever he comes to see me, and he see, he's always calling me up, he's like, get me the bananas, buy me them where they're still green,

but they're starting to turn yellow. Okay. He likes them a very specific- Me and Steve, same. That's how I like my bananas as well. I like mine overripe a little bit. Oh no, I like closer to green. Oh, not too much.

Yeah. I want it totally ripe for the daiquiri, because you want it nice and sweet for the daiquiri. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want the sugary ripeness, yeah. Yeah, but if I'm going to eat a banana whole, I want it greenish. 17,000 bananas is a lot of bananas. I think that's just too much. Think about how much you would have lost in your inheritance if he was paying 8% more

Every day for 7 smart we got to grow bananas in America the one other thing I want to talk about about that not like exchange was John Kennedy. He's a fucking moron Yeah, but he got him there. Yeah, he got he got okay, so there. This is what I was this is my point There are two kinds of stupid in this world. There's Howard Lutnick stupid And then but then there's Kennedy who like thinks he's smart and it thinks he's making this point that it's like hey What why don't you guys try to get it down to zero? I'm a free trader We're the free trade party remember he's trying to nudge Okay, and I but I think that he's trying by his own words later

He says I'm trying to nudge them towards my policy goals, and it's like bro You signed up for this like you like they want that they want the tariffs making a pure free trade argument against Nutlick is not Gonna convince anybody like that's not Trump is not gonna convince anybody. Like that's not, Trump is not gonna be convinced by that and he is still like bought these guys, the free market, the Wall Street Journal, Republican types, have I convinced themselves that that Trump is one of them and that there's a deal coming on the back end that's gonna be good for the economy. It's like no, this is the

guy that bankrupted the casinos. He loves the word tariff. Right. That's what's happening and Kennedy is like fooled himself this is the guy that bankrupted the casinos. He loves the word tariff, right? That's what's happening and Kennedy is like fooled himself. I think into thinking that this is gonna work Well, maybe I think he was just trying to expose the ridiculousness of their arguments, right? It's like if you guys really believe in reciprocity, then surely you would believe in reciprocity and well, it's like no never no way So yeah, I mean they're both a little bit delusional in their own separate ways. And I guess to your point, now that Musk is gone, I mean, he doesn't like the terrorists, too. You now basically have Peter Navarro,

Lutnik who is just gonna do whatever the hell Trump tells him to do, and Trump, and Vance basically making policy. And it's just like, this is, the guardrails for the free trade crowd are not there anymore. Elon is a guardrail? Well to a degree yeah. Whoo all right that's a good podcast. Did you have any smokes yesterday? Did you feel, do you guys ride so high? I kind of needed one at the end of it. All right any final thoughts for the

people taking them into the weekend? I don't know good luck it's it's rough out there I'm excited to see what drama comes today but like then I step back Any final thoughts for the people taking them into the weekend? I don't know. Good luck. It's rough out there. I'm excited to see what drama comes today, but then I step back and I'm like, we're living through something really dark. Let's close with that because there's this little person inside me, my little Jiminy Cricket. He still exists. Oh, dude. He's louder and louder every year.

So I get older. I'm getting soft. And yesterday Jiminy was cricking it in my ear He's like you shouldn't enjoy this as much like things are still really bad Trump's still gonna be president for three and a half years blah blah blah, and I just I kept Muzzling Jiminy be like shut the fuck up I can't like muslin Jiminy. Shut up Jiminy. Shut the fuck up. Let me have a little joy. Let us have a little joy. And so I would like to tell the listeners to do that. Have a little, enjoy it. Oh no, and we do that a lot. Enjoy it. You and I especially. We laugh at it and it's good to laugh. I think it's important to laugh and it's important to say what the fuck this is ridiculous and that's fine.

I'm not saying you shouldn't feel, you should feel bad doing that and then I sit back and like these guys I run shit. Yeah, it's also important to protest and that's why we'll be doing that today. Hey good tonight. Thank you I'm excited. It's gonna be routing nervous. Yeah, you should be me and John love it with long Well, I think that we'll be posting that either on the love it or leave it feed or right here people can check it out Maybe bits on both it might be NC 17. I guess Maybe bits on both it might be NC 17. I guess is all my There'll be some very serious parts and then there'll be some parts that are a little yucky for people. So enjoy everybody else We'll see you back here Monday. We're working on this good. We might have a little change of sked It might not be Bill Crystal Monday. It might be so, you know, I don't leave you on your toes this weekend

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