The Cake Eaters - 1. Game Changers Episode 1: Game On

Episode Date: June 1, 2021

Heath & Brandon talk about how their passion for the Mighty Duck franchise started, childhood hernias, trying to change high school mascots, some of the cultural impact from the original movies, a...nd then they break down Episode 1 of the new Mighty Ducks: Game Changers series on Disney+. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod). Email us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's not worth winning if you can't win! Welcome everybody to the Cake Eaters podcast. Today is our first episode of hopefully many, many more to come. The Cake Eaters Pod is going to be a deep dive into all things Mighty Ducks related. Our first 10 or so episodes will be breaking down each episode of the new Mighty Ducks Game Changers TV series on Disney+. From there, we will dive into everything from the original movies to the animated series to interviews with the cast and crew. We'll talk about other projects that the cast and crew are involved in.
Starting point is 00:00:51 We'll even talk to some people involved with the original Mighty Ducks NHL team. Make sure you follow along with us. We're on Twitter at The Cake Eaters and on Instagram at The Cake Eaters Pod. Please like, comment, share, review, subscribe, all that stuff, because it really does make a difference for us. Without further ado, let's get it started. My name's Brandon, and I'm joined by my co-host Heath. Heath, how are you? Let's talk some ducks, man. I'm fired up.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Quacktastic over here. Oh, yeah. So ready. We're making that a word now, I guess. Oh, quacktastic. Absolutely. That's been a word since 1993, I'm pretty sure. Just to give everybody a quick little background on me and Heath, I figured it'd be good for us to kind of go over our attachment to the Mighty Duck franchise before we start talking real in-depth about it.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Heath, do you want to go first? Yeah, I can kick things off. Just a couple years your senior, Brandon, the Mighty Ducks came out in theaters and launched in the throes of youthful adolescence for me. And so where the Ducks really stuck with me, was the D2 Mighty Ducks movie was one of the few and rare VHS that my parents actually bought the real movie not recorded on the VCR. So I actually owned this D2 Mighty Ducks Disney VHS tape and I had hernia surgery the same year that we bought that. And so I was watching D2 Mighty Ducks on repeat throughout six weeks of hernia surgery recovery. How young were you when you had of hernia surgery recovery how how young of a how young were you
Starting point is 00:02:27 when you had a hernia surgery i was in third grade that's you're born with that shit sometimes brandon like come on come on son that's true i just i just say you know i mean as somebody who's had a hernia surgery myself i mine was much later in life though not when i was in third grade um i can't imagine going through that. How much heavy lifting were you doing to cause yourself a hernia? It was born. So like upon birth, the hernia took place. So you had it all the way up until third grade.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Jesus Christ. Exactly. And then it just got bad enough where I had to get fixed. And so that's where, and so you can imagine you had to have some solid entertainment background going on to get a third grade child to sit still for six fucking weeks, man. That was no, that was no, that was no small little, little surgery there. But anyway, so yeah, first VHS ever bought. Mighty Ducks on repeat for six weeks. Crushing Mighty Ducks. Absolutely. And, you know, of course, the first movie, you couldn't
Starting point is 00:03:33 just jump on Disney Plus and rewatch that bad boy. Oh, no, my friend. The original Mighty Ducks was buried on a 10 hour VHS tapes with other, with four to five other movies. And, and I will say that I hate driving Miss Daisy to this day because every time I tried to watch Mighty Ducks before I threw in D2, I had to fast forward through my friend, Morgan Freeman driving the slide in the round. It was just, it was no good. So anyways, having that standalone vhs that's where that's where the love came in you know we were quacking very hard and actually we brought the quacking um to high school sports where i tried to get the wayne blue devils team
Starting point is 00:04:21 name changed my senior year to the wayne blue ducks so that we could quack at the end of games. That is a fact. I still have the Blue Duck t-shirt in my childhood basement. How you didn't want to fully change the name so you kept Blue in it. You're like, I'll throw him a bone. We won't go Mighty Ducks. We'll go Blue Ducks. That way it's still like Blue Devils.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Exactly. A little crossover with Billy Madison. I mean, you're a Blue Duck. You've never seen a Blue Duck before. I completely forgot about Billy Madison. And you're a blue duck. You've never seen a blue duck before. I completely forgot about Billy Madison and the blue duck. Oh my goodness. That's definitely something I don't think people, even my sister who's like five years younger than us,
Starting point is 00:04:56 I don't think she would even understand the pains of having to record your own stuff off of TV and then have to dig through the five other movies that you also recorded on that same tape to find the whole thing you're trying to watch. With all these streaming services, everything's just on demand. Oh yeah, all the ads, all the previews for all the other movies
Starting point is 00:05:18 that are coming out. Yeah. So that's how I watched Mighty Ducks back in the day, back in those mid-90s. That's pretty amazing. Yeah, so for me, like you mentioned, you're a couple years my senior. So I was born in 1991.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I was a little too young to kind of catch the wave of the first and the second movie. Because I believe the first was like 93, second was 94, 95. But the third one was 96 so i was like five years old in kindergarten um fully aware of movies um and so i caught that and it was also 95 96 was also the first year of the the colorado avalanche from moving from quebec so it was the first year that colorado had like professional hockey since like the 80s and so i got swept up in that coupled with mighty ducks 3 that was like the birth of my hockey fandom was those those two things kind of happening all at once and i had like older cousins that were real into the the mighty ducks and all that kind of stuff so like i even before i saw it i kind of
Starting point is 00:06:20 knew what it was about even though i you know three years old had like no recollection of it but watching d3 especially because you know, three years old, hadn't like no recollection of it, but watching D3, especially cause you know, that's when they, like they hit high school. They were all, you know, they were trying to get fit in with the cool kids and they went to like some weird like prep boarding school. And as like a five-year-old, I was like, I was just going to say that, like could you relate to the prep boarding school stuff? Cause that threw me for a loop, even though like I'm five years older. Right. So I was in a little bit more cognitive part of my brain, but even then I was
Starting point is 00:06:48 like, wait, is this how people go to school? You know, that's exactly 5,000 people. I don't know. That's exactly, that's exactly what happened to me. I was like five years old and I was like, is this what like being an adult is like, or like being in high school, you just, they just ship you off and you just like staying, staying in a boarding school, just playing hockey. It sounds fantastic. Like who cooks for you, man? Who does your laundry? It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah, who's going to drive me to McDonald's? I don't see how any of this is going to work. But yeah, so that was my kind of like entrance into the series and then just kind of got hooked from there, went back and watched one and two religiously. Two, the two was also, two's probably my favorite of the bunch and so that vhs i would just watch just non-stop constantly two is two is that we'll get into this in in future podcasts but i just have to say two is an awesome movie but like when you're a kid but
Starting point is 00:07:39 looking back on it you're just like what in the world were they was it was going on with this premise like they took a few liberties in the second one oh the goodwill games were a logistical nightmare for sure that was another so that thing watching the second one yeah like you said we'll talk about the the movies uh in future podcasts but the second one hooked me as well and that like started my like weird fascination with Iceland as a, as a place in general. And I, for the longest time I thought because of that movie that like Iceland had
Starting point is 00:08:11 like a, just a sick ass hockey system and like the greatest hockey pro hockey players in the world. And then like, right. As soon as I got like, like 13, 14 years old and started like getting more aware of like national hockey
Starting point is 00:08:23 teams. I was like, Oh, I said, nobody in Iceland even plays hockey. They have no idea what's going on. What do you think inspired them to choose Iceland as a bad guy? I've always wondered that.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And maybe that's a tirade for a different episode. But, you know, it's just you think the tried and trues were there, right? Like maybe Russia was just too obvious and they didn't want any Cold War shenanigans coming into a Disney movie. I think that was probably what it had to do with. Russia was, it's always played out. Russia was always the bad guy. Plus
Starting point is 00:08:53 it was 93, so it was like a year and a half, two years after the Soviet Union fell. So maybe you don't want to like pick at old wounds. They're not the WWF, so they're not going to pit Sgt. Slaughter versus Hulk Hogan in the championship
Starting point is 00:09:10 match, brother. But Iceland is just... There's so many other hockey powerhouses that you could have gone with. You could have got the obvious choice, which would have been Canada. That's what I'm thinking. America's hat is our enemy, right?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Maybe Canada's too nice, but they did pick a nice neutral country and i i think that's what they i think that's what they're with because if you look at all the other countries that kind of pop up the only one that like i recognize as like a hockey country and even this is a bit of a stretch is germany germany's in it for like a little bit they like show show germany's name on the scoreboard i think is all that they show granted not the greatest hockey power but they have there's a bunch of german players in the national hockey league so they're not they're not bad but outside of that you have iceland they have trinidad and tobago for some reason random yeah i think they just kind of were like let's just let's let's let's pick countries that aren't gonna watch this movie That way we don't make anybody mad.
Starting point is 00:10:07 They just, they over-planned the country selection on that. Excellent. I love that recap. I think that it's so easy to get into these movies, especially after you watch the first one and you realize that, like, the first Mighty Ducks movie was like a real production with like some high quality value with actors and like it it was it was a great move and like it did so well when it first hit and when you were a kid in the 90s and you watched that for the first time there was there was no turning back I think the biggest issue for me is that I was in Nebraska unless you lived in Omaha there was no opportunity at. I think the biggest issue for me is that I was in Nebraska, unless
Starting point is 00:10:45 you lived in Omaha, there was no opportunity at that time to actually play hockey unless you lived in Omaha. So it was like, cool. I would have loved to get into hockey, but you know, that is so cool where you actually, the Avs come into Colorado as you're getting into the Ducks and then the Avalanche become an awesome team towards the late 90s or 2000s too. Yeah, they won the Stanley Cup that first year they were there. And then another one in 2000, 2001. So yeah, it was like full, like as soon as this movie hit and the Avs got turned,
Starting point is 00:11:18 it was like full hockey swing in Colorado, especially for me. And I like tried playing hockey a couple couple times, but I could just never figure out how to ice skate well enough to be a factor. Give those guys credit, right? You're skating full speed, you're going, and then you're trying to do a triple
Starting point is 00:11:35 deke. That's the only hockey offensive move that I know. Man, I would have crushed that triple deke, I'm sure. And that's why my dad always used to joke when I was playing basketball. He's he's like he you can't chew gum while you play basketball because you can't do those two things at once i couldn't i would have never been a hockey player even if it was available yeah it's ice skating is such like uh it's such a freaking art form it's amazing and you see some of the like the i mean especially the the nhl with all the the
Starting point is 00:12:03 fantastic skaters they have there. It's ridiculous. You know, not only are they, they skating with the puck, they're skating like 30 miles an hour, 25 miles an hour, something like that. You're hitting people, you know, you have to, it's just so much, it was way too much hand-eye coordination and athleticism for me. I was, I was out. We can get into, like you mentioned, we get into the the movies in later episodes um the the
Starting point is 00:12:26 premise of of this one and then the the next couple episodes on this podcast is going to be kind of going over the the new disney plus series uh game changers mighty ducks game changers it is not a game changer after episode one spoiler alert i'm just kidding that was overly critical go ahead keep going i mean i i agree it's uh it's i mean i will say i was i was very excited for the series when they announced it but i made very i made very sure to keep my expectations rock bottom i've been scorned by too many reboots and like you know rehashings of stuff that i just, I was like, I'm super excited for this, but I'm going to expect the absolute worst. And so watching this first episode,
Starting point is 00:13:09 it was way better than I thought it was going to be. I wouldn't say it was great though. Actually, I definitely wouldn't say it was great. I would, stretching, I might say it's good. It was done well. Yeah. It was, honestly, it's probably as well as you could do something like this and the fact that
Starting point is 00:13:26 emilio's back like that not to jump ahead to the episode but i mean if you think like like you mentioned like the the first movie like the it was a real production it was real like the fact that you get emilio estevez to do that role at that point in time 1993 like that's the height of i forget exactly when like breakfast club and and all that stuff came out point in time 1993 like that's the height of i've heard exactly when like breakfast club and and all that stuff came out it was a little past that but i mean he's still emilio estevez he's still riding that high he's still a legit actor to for him to do that role at that time is amazing and then again for him to want to come back not only for one episode but what is i'm certain going to be the whole series
Starting point is 00:14:06 and if not you know series two or something like that or season two like he's fully invested in this so like that that i think that shows you like kind of the cultural impact and like the staying power that the mighty ducks has that emilio not only came back for two extra movies but now 20 years later he's back for a whole series yeah i mean it went on to be referenced in an snl pop culture movie night at the roxbury yeah you know william mighty ducks guy swear to god i was right like that's that's amazing like especially at that time in the 90s, to be able to get into that era of SNL and then onto those shows, that was such a much more monumental deal. I mean, SNL still has its weight today, but those SNL episodes in the 90s to become and then get into those movies was awesome. It's a bit mind-boggling because you think of other movies, like especially sports, movies at this time, nobody references Bad News Bears, even though Bad News Bears was like 80s.
Starting point is 00:15:10 But nobody references Bad News Bears really anymore. Occasionally, you'll get the Sandlot reference. But outside of Mighty Ducks and Sandlot, I don't think there's any – those are the only two that had any kind of staying power. They created an nhl franchise because the franchise and the logo was so popular and then a spin-off cartoon series you know it just it became so it became so profitable for disney they were able to to take it into multiple avenues and and i think that's like the best part about the Mighty Ducks and why it got its reboot is because it actually found like pop culture, Nirvana later as it went on.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I always, I follow the NHL regularly and I love the Mighty Ducks series and I, but I still continually forget that they named that the franchise, the franchise was named after the movies. Like the movies were not named after the movies. The movies were not named after the franchise. The franchise came right – I think their first season was right after the second movie. Yeah, because that's when they changed the logo to the navy and the teal green. Like I said –
Starting point is 00:16:20 It's not navy. I'm going to stop you right there. It's not navy. It's eggplant and jade. Eggplant and jade. Wow. Eggplant and jade. Wow. Eggplant and jade. That's beautiful. But that's like all this stuff was happening when I was a little kid. I was like, wait a second. The Mighty Ducks are becoming like a real team. Like I was just watching this crazy cartoon that only lasted a season
Starting point is 00:16:37 because it wasn't very good. But it really became this whole thing. But anyways, I feel like we need to get into the recap. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah. Because I'm ready. We gotta refocus. I'm gonna dig my teeth into this first episode. So I'll give a quick recap here.
Starting point is 00:16:55 The episode's titled Game On. It follows Lauren Graham after her son, Evan, is cut from the Mighty Ducks. Single mom, Alex Morrow, that's who lauren graham plays decides to help evan start his own hockey team so he can have fun and get away from the stressful win-at-all-cost atmosphere that the ducks promote which is a complete 180 from the the movies the ducks were always the happy-go-lucky underdogs and hated ice like team iceland the varsity team from the third movies and then the hawks in the first movie who
Starting point is 00:17:25 were the win at all costs no fun allowed type of teams and so that was a huge shocker for me to kind of they're flipping it on its head and the ducks are the bad guys now which makes sense though like as like as it came on and you kind of saw it going it's like this makes sense because if you got really good in the 90s your your youth franchise by this time now it would kind of be expected that like all of the top tier talent in Minnesota would would try to migrate towards the Ducks to to go into that high profile hockey youth league before it goes so it actually made sense that they kind of flipped the script a little bit, right. When it started, what do you feel about that? Yeah, it was, it was a bit shocking, but it definitely makes sense,
Starting point is 00:18:11 especially with how youth sports in general has progressed. Like in the nineties, it was very like practically talk about the districts, right. Cause the Adam Banks can't play for the Hawks. Cause he's on the duck in the ducks district or whatever. Yeah. They rezoned to district five. Yes. And so because he's on the duck in the ducks district or whatever. Yeah. They rezoned to district five. Yes. And so that was very much a thing in the nineties.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It was very much locale based, but nowadays it's, you know, it's who you can go wherever you kind of want. And so they kind of, they don't really touch on it, but it's, it's insinuated here in the first episode that it's kind of like a,
Starting point is 00:18:40 that you can pick your teams or the teams can pick you, whatever, however it kind of works out, especially because it's more club hockey, which is is what we do it's kind of like like aau circuits exactly for basketball it's the club hockey circuit yeah club hockey circuit and so yeah and so you get especially with with evan and his mom starting their own team even though like he was playing for the ducks and theoretically in the ducks district you know they wouldn't back then they wouldn't back then.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They wouldn't just let you start up a new team because you were you'd have to create a whole new district. But so that and then they touch on it later on in the episode, too. But I think they do a really good job of setting the I guess the mile markers for you now with like where youth sports is, especially youth hockey. And you get a brief glimpse into some of the parents and how just batshit crazy they are. Oh, those parents are mean. Oh, yeah. Like, it makes you wonder, like, you know, when you think about bullying in school and that's, you know, that's like, well, of course there is.
Starting point is 00:19:37 These parents are mean as shit to each other. Like, that was crazy. Some of the stuff that they would like. And I don't want to jump too far ahead, but when she busts out the laptop and starts like, come on, people, we need some protein. I would not. I would
Starting point is 00:19:54 get the cheesy puffs because I forgot that it was my turn to cater. I'd go get some protein bars because I wouldn't get cheesy puffs. That was just like, it's like, oh, God, it's just so much, much you know i think that the first movie does a real good job of like criticizing that kind of stuff even in the 90s like the win at all costs kind of stuff but this this series this episode specifically is like it's a it's a scathing indictment on like uh
Starting point is 00:20:20 sports sports parents culture and that kind of nonsense. Like one of the – Stephanie, who's like the laptop mom, the snack mom. Yeah. She brings two outside consultants with her to this hockey – I think it's just tryouts, right? It's tryouts. It's not a practice. It's the two hockey tryouts. One of them is a pediatric sports psychologist.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Like what is that about? And then what was the, the other one was like a trainer, I think. Yeah. A youth trainer. And let's not even forget before that, before Lauren, right. That's a, that's a mom's name, Lauren, before she even gets Alex, Alex, Alex. I'm sorry. Lauren is her name in real. Yeah, Lauren Graham, played by actress Lauren Graham from Gilmore Girls. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And many other things. My brain just flipped everything around. But, like, she's at work, and that guy walks up, and he's like, oh, no. Stephanie's long gone at hockey practice. Like, she's a great mom. Hank, what? Yeah. Back to the trainers trainers back to the trainers um but i just had to say like before she even gets in there it's like wait like this other mom gets that takes priority over you because she's a little more involved than you are it's crazy
Starting point is 00:21:37 yeah well then you have the the other um the other parents um one of the other the kids besides evan in the in the show is is Sophie and so her parents are up there and they're cheering at this tryout practice whatever it is and they mentioned to Alex about how they never saw her or Evan at any of the summer tryouts or
Starting point is 00:21:58 the summer practices or the summer events and stuff like that like the camps like the summer what i was looking for thank you yeah yeah summer camps trainings and all that kind of stuff and then um sophie's parents are like oh it looks i mean it does look really good on a college resume and like the college counselor all our college counselors are telling us we should do it it's definitely something you should think about and alex goes oh i don't have a college counselor
Starting point is 00:22:23 and just the shocked aghast look that those parents have and then the this passive-aggressive phrase so sophie's mom then utters this phrase which is probably my favorite of the whole episode she looks at alex and goes oh my god you're so brave that is so you are right like the passive aggressive like little throwaway comments like that are so good and and let's talk about sophie's parents again because this is once again a dad cheering his daughter on at a not even a practice some like it's it's it's it seems like they're just finalizing the roster that's what what they're doing. They're finalizing the roster to make it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 So it is a practice, but they're also, yeah, they have to cut the roster down for the final or for the first game. I just, I cannot believe that. And it's like you said, they're just absolutely railing against this, like, toxic, hyper-supported parent culture where they're not absolutely railing against this like toxic, hyper supportive parent culture where they're not supporting their kids. They're like living vicariously through their kids and obsessed with, with their achievements. And she's like, they're 12.
Starting point is 00:23:36 You know, they're 12 years old, right? Like, I, I don't know what I was doing when I was 12 years old. Yeah. And 12 years old Yeah And 12 year old Brandon was playing sports But he was not Lauren I'm going to keep calling her by her real name Instead of her character's name
Starting point is 00:23:54 But Alex, Evan's mom Even makes it a point When she's confronting the coach She starts screaming at them About how you guys realize That none of these kids are going to play professional hockey Are you guys guys realize that none of these kids are going to play professional hockey right are you guys that stupid none of these kids are going to make it what are you what are we doing here we're all we're doing is giving it because like you know
Starting point is 00:24:14 like and sophie's parents like constant like classic overworking their kid parents right like they're really playing that out because she's got the sore knee like you know they're already talking about exams and college prep and all that kind of stuff. And, and that's, and then like, they're not going to play professional high. Not a single one of these kids is going to play professional high. It's just the numbers aren't there. And sometimes I think that parents get so into what's happening that they forget reality around them. And that like, all you're doing is creating little stressed out worker bees that are going to like be taught, like, you know, toxic work environment people in 15 years. It's, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But talking about her talking to the coach, let's talk about coach T because that is one of my favorite moments of the show it's uh it's in classic bad guy fashion so the the ducks are now the bad guys and so of course you have to have you have to have the coach that embodies that and so they have coach t who is is none other than dylan fair play i believe is his his real name but he plays uh everybody will know him from the show letter kenny he plays riley um and so he's a hockey player yeah oh yeah he plays he plays a hockey player in in letter kenny i was looking at his imdb a couple days ago he's in like four or five hockey show slash movies he's he's all about hockey movie life that's amazing boys hit the hit those slappers boys get the biscuit on the ice.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah. Classic Mad Hockey Coach vibe. He's rocking the mullet. He's got the flow going. Can they comment on it? Oh, yeah. Did you hear the comment? Hold on. I found it in here.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's Coach T. Oh, hold on. Oh, gosh. While you're looking at it, I want to touch briefly on the person who makes this mullet comment. So the show opens with Evan running late to practice. And then it shows the practice. It opens on the practice, and then it shoots up to the stands where there's two kids sitting with microphones. And one of them opens up with, he welcomes everybody to the wraparound podcast, which is Southeast
Starting point is 00:26:26 Minnesota's number two youth hockey podcast. This is, this is Nick. The one of the kids is Nick, Nick the Stick. He features prominently in this episode. He steals the show. And then his co-host, and then his co-host is a, is a, is a girl. I forget her, her character's name and and she all she says it's very light it's like coach t rocking the new mullet with some great flow
Starting point is 00:26:51 and it really does and and he's like he's like hitting hitting that that like you know whipping the hair back and forth like willow smith pose um where he's just letting that, that golden bullet flow. Crushing it. But the, so the other, the number two Southeast Minnesota youth hockey podcast, which is fantastic because I mean, the fact that a,
Starting point is 00:27:14 there's more than one South Southeast Minnesota, not just all of Minnesota, just specifically the Southeastern portion. There's multiples of those. And then the fact that they would do a live podcast recording from the Ducks' final practice before the season, I think that's a fantastic callback to the first, all three of the movies, to where the press that these peewee hockey teams get is just ridiculous. In the first movie, there's newspapers.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Front page newspaper clippings. i'm sorry but the twin cities area is not well it's not hockey i don't know i mean if any if any place would do it it would be the twin cities but there's still more going on in minneapolis st paul than pwe 12 year old even 12 year old you know yeah but but so yeah there's there's news there's not just newspaper front page headlines there's also i think it's either the first or the second movie but there's like a specific youth hockey magazine front cover like the magazine dedicated to youth hockey that they make the cover of and then in all the in all the the games are like radio announced um even going back to the in the first movie with gordon's flashback to when he's playing which had to be like early 80s there's a radio call for that where they call them missing the shot like what why why are we
Starting point is 00:28:37 radio calls oh yeah the dude he's a very professional radios but the fact that they would be doing that for peewee hockey, and I'm pretty sure, were they 12 years old in the first movie? I feel like they were even younger. I feel like they were 10. They're younger. Yeah, they're younger. I think the first year, they were like 9 or 10, like you said.
Starting point is 00:28:55 But yeah, just the press that youth hockey is getting in Minnesota is just astounding. Astounding. So we've got our bad guy coach. We've got our, our podcast. Oh, and one other thing about coach Riley that I have to say,
Starting point is 00:29:11 which is one of my favorite quotes is coach, coach, coach T. You gotta be sorry. You gotta be Riley. I'm getting mixed up. Coach Riley from the first movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:22 You gotta be careful. Cause his, his, his character name in letter kenny is riley so it's tempting to call him coach riley but coach riley is is the hawks that's the first movie i i think i that was i was i was so hoping for a coach riley like cameo but then i realized r.i.p that he has passed away he's no longer with us but r.i.p coach riley he was he was real bad in that first movie when you think about like the toxicity of the way he ran this program like whoa he smashes kids in the head with a hockey
Starting point is 00:29:54 stick multiple times great they're wearing a hockey helmet while he does it but still multiple times and and nine-year-olds gunning to take out other nine-year-olds to win the championship. Taking out hits on kids. Rough as this. Okay, so back to Coach T. And one of my favorite moments that he has in this episode, and I laugh for forever, I ran it back after he said it, is when Evan goes up to him and is like, but coach, what about when you told us last year you can't measure heart?
Starting point is 00:30:27 And Coach T is like, oh yeah, I got that off the internet. I'm phasing that out this year. That is the best. You can't measure heart getting phased out of the youth hockey program. That just sets the tone for the D ducks are the mean team they've got this bad guy coach like you should hate all of these guys but i loved it i thought it was excellent like you should phase that out man yeah we don't it doesn't make any sense yeah we don't need that
Starting point is 00:30:57 that kind of nonsense in here so he actually so what happens is so so after you get the little snapshot of the helicopter parents doing their thing, it shows the rest of the practice playing out. You get Sophie's bum knee, but she kind of throws it away. She's like, oh, I'm not really hurting. It's fine because she doesn't want to disappoint anybody. And then you get kind of a little breakout hockey play where Evan gets just run around and ends up giving up a goal. And then it cuts to Coach T who's talking to another coach. And I forget exactly what he says, but
Starting point is 00:31:29 he's talking about Evan and he goes, late to practice, slow on the ice, slow with the puck, just bad-mouthing Evan. And then he blows the whistle and kind of dismisses everybody, but then calls Evan back over to center ice. Center ice in front of everybody while everybody's getting away and goes, hey, Evan,
Starting point is 00:31:45 we're cutting you. You're not a duck anymore. And so then that's when Evan goes, I thought you couldn't measure heart. And he's like, well, you're just too small, dude. You're too small. You're too slow. You can't cut it in this next age bracket. The 12 to 14 bracket. Hitting is allowed.
Starting point is 00:32:02 He was trying to protect this undersized player. you're right because not only is it like at middle ice but then he like he cuts him in middle i tells him like hey sorry you're not on the team and then he follows him and the whole rest of the team is still chilling in the bench like grabbing their they're grabbing stuff off the bench and getting ready to go and everybody's still there all the parents are still there and so then the parents are coming down yeah yeah so then alex alex uh evan's mom hears the the heart comment she goes wait wait what's going on here and then that's when coach t tells her that we got to cut him from the team
Starting point is 00:32:33 and that's when she freaks out when she starts screaming about um none of these kids are gonna make it uh to the nhl everybody's so crazy you brought a sports uh pediatric psychologist to the freaking tryout what are we doing here lady because uh coach because because coach t lays the the the hammer line on her where she goes where he goes um you know he's just too slow he's not going to make it in this next age bracket and if you can't you know if you can't be amazing at hockey at this age don't bother yeah don't bother and so she you don't bother sir yes you don't bother. Don't bother. You don't bother, sir. You don't bother. So she freaks out and starts,
Starting point is 00:33:10 she scoots herself out to center eyes to yell at Coach D. And starts screaming at him, you don't bother. You don't bother, sir. As the phones all start coming up in the bench. All the kids are filming this. So she has her little blow up and you don't bother.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And honestly, it's really moving. I was into it. I was like, yes, tell them, light them up. But then at the end of it, she forgets where she is. So she gives the grand finale of the send off and then realizes she has to walk across the rest of the ice to get off of it while everybody's still staring at her and filming. The ice walk of shame is my favorite cutaway moment where they get done.
Starting point is 00:33:53 They zoom in. She has this epic speech. It's great because she needed to have it because everyone needs to calm down a little bit. And then you see her try the typical arms out, shuffle, leaning one side leading to the other like just had a very like adrenaline filled moment and nothing brings you back to reality faster when you have that much adrenaline flowing than an awkward moment where you're trying not to fall on the ice like that was classic
Starting point is 00:34:25 yeah i love everything about that yeah well and they let it linger too they did a real good job of not like like normally i i feel like they could have like shown like one or two shuffles and then kind of cut away they showed pretty much the whole thing they showed a good it was a good minute and a half of her trying to shuffle to the back to the, to the bench. So she could get off. And then of course, cause, cause Nick and the second, the number two youth hockey podcast in Southeast Minnesota is there.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And it just so happens. He mentions this in like a little line at the, at the top of his little introduction that he's actually next door neighbors to Evan. But so then it cuts after that, after she shimmies off the ice, it cuts to later that night. And Alex is sitting on her porch, just, her porch just sulking in what happened that day.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And Nick is in the house next door on his porch talking into his phone, recapping what happened for his podcast. And then he like shouts at her. Recapping what she did. Yeah. What does he say? He goes, and now she's just sitting she's sitting with herself just trying to think about i forget exactly what he says but he's just trying to think about what went wrong today or something like that yeah and then he's providing commentary on her current
Starting point is 00:35:36 emotional state for his podcast and like the way he's like casually sitting on the porch like they did a great job there too of like how the structure of the homes, like that's usually how it would look in neighbors like that. And so he's jumping in, he's about it, but no skates for Nick the stick, you know? So in his recap of the, of what the, the events that transpired, he then shouts across to her and is, Hey, would you care to give an interview for the podcast?
Starting point is 00:36:04 And she of course says no i don't feel like doing that right now nick and he goes okay i'll be right over so then he comes over and starts asking her questions and then that's when you get uh a real like shining nick the stick uh moment because he refers to himself as nick the stick going in for a post game interview or post uh event interview um and he lays down just line after line of pure fucking goal he starts he starts talking um he was like i i get i get where you're coming from evan's mom like i mean i i find out in my way i would be out there ice skating and playing hockey with all of them and she goes well why aren't you and he goes well i did the peewee circuit up until I was about six. The participation, the participation circuit until I was six.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You're just collecting those participation ribbons. I love that they called it out. Like kids are like parents can sit there and give out participation trophies all they want. Kids are very aware that they're not as good as their peers and they're getting their asses kicked day in and day out of these competitions so i love that line too oh it's fantastic yeah so he lays that line the the participation uh circuit and then he goes he goes yeah i did that up until i was like six and then you know i just got to i got everybody was way better than me and then he goes he lays this fucking golden line he goes and at my age if you're not that good why bother at that at my age
Starting point is 00:37:32 he gets 10 years old and he's saying at my age if if you can't do it now why even bother i mean he's but he's not wrong because that that 12 year old bracket they're gearing up for high school you know they're gonna be in high school in a couple years and if you're not very good by the time you're 12 you're gonna just be sitting on the bench so it has a solid point but you want to still give those someone like nick the stick a chance to get out there and succeed yeah yeah i mean he's he really did he really did steal like that that scene after practice was, like, so intense and so awesome. Then the cut and, like, him and Evan's mom talking through him and Alex are talking through it. And then it gears up.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They start to get ready for them going to school. Well, so before that – so after he's talking to her, her and Nick, Alex and Nick go up and they talk to Evan because that's when Alex has the great idea. Well, let's start our own team with everybody that got cut. Let's give these people a place to play. Everyone that should not bother. Exactly. So they go up to Evan's room. And one of my favorite things, so he has so it like shows his whole room and he
Starting point is 00:38:46 has posters all over the place he's got a couple mighty like mighty ducks posters like for the actual team he's got like a logo poster he's got one other poster that i didn't quite see but the one that's like like him laying in the bed and he's looking straight across the wall that poster that he sees when he's laying in bed is a mighty ducks poster and guess what it says it says eat sleep quack repeat yes which is epic i need that poster i need that poster but so they say repeat you know that was a line from coach t oh absolutely well i don't know because i don't know because they didn't know they moved away from the quacking you're right that would not well i yeah it was so cute it was so yesteryear it was so 90s cutesy cliche nick and his his podcast
Starting point is 00:39:38 partner they make that that line where they say can you believe because they're taught they're giving everybody the history of uh of the ducks you know 10th street state championships i'm talking about the 90s heyday and then his podcast host goes can you believe they used to quack back then and then they both chuckle yeah which that like seeing that that poster then kind of threw me for a loop eat sleep quack repeat but i guess you know as long as you don't actually quack if you just if you just put it on a poster you're fine yeah yeah but so then but so that so they're up in his room and they're trying to convince evan to like start this team and um nick has another fucking golden line because because uh alex is like evan or uh nick is going to be your first your first teammate it'll be you
Starting point is 00:40:21 two guys and then we got to find some other people and ev Evan looks at Nick and goes, Nick, are you even, are you even good at hockey? And he goes, Oh no, I don't even own a pair of skates. I will, I will not be an asset physically. And then he mentioned that he has, he has more of a podcasting body than a, than a hockey body. His delivery of those one, like his timing, his comedic timing on those is so
Starting point is 00:40:46 good for being so young. I'm more of a podcast body. I will not be an asset physically. He really does just steal everything about that episode from the intro then to that.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It's just, oh, God. Yeah, he kills it. His self-awareness is just through the roof. Well, in some aspects. Because then you mentioned they're getting ready to get to school and try to find more people that will join the team. And so they get to school, and I think the first kid they run into is the daredevil kid, which let me see if I can find who it is. Sam. That's right, Sam.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Sam's the daredevil kid. The first shot you see of him is him on a skateboard, and he runs himself into a vending machine. And then they go up to him, and they're like – he has a great line too because they go up to him, and Evan's like, dude, did you just like getting hurt? Like what are you doing this for? And Sam goes, well, you know, if somebody dares you to do something, you got to do it. Got to do it. Got to do it. Although I do have to say, his velocity running into that vending machine, I'm pretty sure he would have broke the glass.
Starting point is 00:41:58 But we'll save that for another day. He was going pretty fast to just hit that vending machine and just knock out a bag of chips and all but maybe maybe he he landed in a certain way that but i i love that line too he must have just landed in a certain way that wouldn't break the glass but he's like oh yeah and then what did they um what about hockey oh yeah so they're like oh that sounds awesome we could definitely use you do you want to join our hockey team? And he goes, I'm not a hockey guy. There's too many rules. Yeah. You can't be the daredevil guy and expected to follow all the rules of hockey.
Starting point is 00:42:34 That's just, I mean, that's number one. He's a badass. Yeah. I mean, that's part of it. And so what I thought they were going to do, or what i thought they were going to do or what i yeah what i thought they were going to do but i think kind of when you get towards um them skating you realize it's he's it's not really going to happen is i thought they were setting him up to be kind of like a bash brother yeah but he's not really like once once they start skating he's like hey no he can't skate um but he's yeah he's definitely not like a he's not a fighter or a checker He's just a daredevil essentially
Starting point is 00:43:05 He's a wild man Yeah he's just throwing all the rules Out the thing He's a Charlie Day-esque Wild card Yes definitely much a wild card I took
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah I was trying to think Yeah because there's no really other Daredevils. It's just the Bash Brothers and the original ones. But that was like their charm too. It's like we're not, you know, they're going to break the rules. They're going to, you know, cause some trouble. But yeah, he's definitely just straight Daredevil, no Bash Brothers, which makes sense, I guess.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Because I know, I mean, the whole Bash Brothers like goon thing in hockey, they're trying their darndest to kind of phase that out, even in the program, you know, just because it's just too reckless. I personally love it. Yeah. Concussions and CT and all that stuff. The enforcers are a thing of the past. One person's got to ruin it for everybody else you know the i know the concussion guys um but the but the sam scene doesn't doesn't that go into the the lunchroom scene because i
Starting point is 00:44:12 also yeah well yeah i thought they did a good job of portraying the the youth making fun of each other and teasing each other because they're not super witty or clever when when you're a kid and you're and you're rousing. It's exactly what they did when Evan came. No, you don't bother. You don't bother, sir. And they just kept saying, you don't bother, sir, after they did the Forrest Gump scoot down.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You can't sit here. You're not a part of the Ducks anymore type of situation. And then Evan had to go sit over by by our boy nick stick yeah yeah nick nick tries to do yeah so yeah so evan goes to the the ducks uh lunch table um to sit with all them and they yeah they scoot them out and they go you you don't bother you get away from us you're not on the team anymore so you're not our friend anymore uh but yeah i think they they do do a good job of like it's it's the dumbest insults and the dumbest like reasoning but that's exactly what a 12 year old would do
Starting point is 00:45:07 so right before he gets to the table though he talks to Sophie he runs into her at her locker tries to give her the pitch of being like hey like your parents are the your parents are the fucking worst maybe if you like quit the ducks and come over here they'll like ease up on you and she goes how do you think me
Starting point is 00:45:24 joining a worse team would make them go easier on me which is i mean spot on yes so she so she says no she's like no i'm gonna stay a duck just because yeah she's just she's constantly worried about just disappointing people so she doesn't want to disappoint the the parents um and don't they show some they show some flashes of some other individuals that could eventually be scouted that they just don't really like address right yeah well so the popular table yeah so they so while uh evan is going to to sit by the ducks nick the stick um goes on his little recruiting mission so he goes of course next thinking thinking super smartly goes right to the popular girls table because he's like you know who's gonna play hockey
Starting point is 00:46:08 is the popular girls they fucking love it so he goes there get the coolest kids in the school to join your hockey team you're gonna get like if you get the hottest girl in middle school to join your hockey team you're gonna get a couple couple dudes in there that are just trying to talk to the hot school. That's a fair point. Make the stick. I didn't think about that, but that's fair. But so he goes up to the popular girls table and right out the gate, he goes,
Starting point is 00:46:37 I forget which girl he looked at, but he looked at one of the girls and goes, oh, I love that crop top. And then after that, he delves into his mission and he's like hey do you guys want to like we're starting a real cool i he had another great line let me see if i can find it here oh yeah he's like we got a real cool hockey team starting up you should join if you want to join like a cool rag tag but still very hip team that's that you should join our team the popular girls are like uh no, you're freaking weird. Get away from us.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Except for it does pan on one of them. It pans on – her character's name is Maya. It pans on Maya who's like you can see her giving it a second thought like, oh, maybe I should join the hockey team. But then the other popular girls are like, oh, my God, that was so weird. You can't do that. That sounds so stupid. And she kind of comes back down to earth and then while nick is walking away from that um another girl comes up
Starting point is 00:47:30 her character's name is lauren lauren gibby um and she's kind of like yeah she's like the dnd girl the cosplayer girl the kind of nerdy girl in school and she walks by nick while he's leaving the popular girl stable and goes don't worry they're mean to me too they think i'm super weird or something like that and then she goes it doesn't worry. They're mean to me too. They think I'm super weird or something like that. And then she goes, it doesn't bother me at all though. And then crushes a pop can in her hand. I want to know. So she actually, and this is,
Starting point is 00:47:56 was a weird tangent that I had in my head, but I was like, did she chug that full drink as she was walking from grabbing her lunch to the, to sitting down because that it was empty already because otherwise she has no beverage for the remainder of her lunch i was thinking that i was thinking it was either she either she chugged it completely on the way or it was like an older drink that she had like in a class and she was you know she was just crunching it then for bringing it with to prove her or maybe yeah yeah because i mean yeah because she it was right when she just sat down she crushed it yeah and there was no liquid coming out or anything so it was it was gone but so then after after that i think that's the oh after that
Starting point is 00:48:36 then that's when nick uh nick and evan sit down together and they're trying to figure it out they're like we need to figure out something we need like we need a bunch more people to join this hockey team i don't know what to do. And then Nick goes, yeah, he's like, I have this bright idea. I'm going to airdrop a note to everybody saying, hey, you should join the hockey team. So he airdrops a note to everybody in the cafeteria.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But the way the show does it, though, they have it set up like the screen they show is like a group message. And it's him texting all these people. And if you look at at this cracked me up because if you look at the screen um of that little group message it's just nothing but nick's messages nobody ever responds to him so he's just dropping countless messages in there nobody ever responds to him but so he airdrops to everybody they all look at it and give like a little like chuckle laugh or whatever, and I'll blow it off.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And then that lead, is this where it leads into them getting the hockey star from across the street that just moves in from Canada? Yes, well, I think there's a chronologically, I think there's an Alex scene with her at the law firm or something like that. But yeah, so then Evan and nick the stick are back at home and they are they're just like shooting the the tennis ball out in the uh the street or whatever and that's when the movie truck pulls up
Starting point is 00:49:55 this kid with just the the greatest flow of hair that you've ever seen steps out of the truck and he's wearing he's he's decked out in a toronto maple leaf jersey the dude yeah just looks like looks like he knows how to play hockey yeah and so they they run up to him and they're like oh hey what how's it going what's your name are you new here and he's like what's his name logan i think is his name right yeah logan yeah he's like my name's logan we just moved from toronto um and then he asked them he's like what's like the local hockey scene around here do you guys you guys know where i can play and they're like oh perfect we have a team do you want to join our team and he's like that sounds amazing and then he pulls out his like his bags and stuff and it's like 900 skates like the freshest hockey stick you can see um time gear yeah dude just yeah they're
Starting point is 00:50:40 like and they even make a competent evan even looks at nick and goes those are like 900 skates this guy's got to be crazy good so then they're like oh perfect we got like we got a ringer you know we got our we got our banksy we got here's our star here's our banks like we've got this like this is the ringer he's gonna fill up the statue yeah so they're all super pumped i think after that it cuts to um alex and she is trying to figure out the logistics of all this. She's trying to find a hockey time, rink time where they can practice and where they can play their home games. She's trying to juggle work,
Starting point is 00:51:11 making sure she, she can do all that as well. And that's when you find out, well, you find out a little earlier in the show, but she, she works at a law firm with one of us, Stephanie,
Starting point is 00:51:20 who's one of the helicopter moms is her boss. Helicopter mom, lead helicopter mom, the snack mom, laptop mom. She is Alex's boss at a law firm, which I'm 99% sure is Duckworth Law Firm from the first movie, the namesake of the Ducks. They don't mention it at all, but if you look at the the guy the the law the lawyer who's like talking to her at the beginning of the show he's credited as like dan duckworth so i'm pretty sure it's duckworth law um and and we alluded to it that his conversation with her when he's like oh stephanie's been gone for over an hour she's a great mom yes like that part what's also in there is that the task that she asked that Stephanie asked him to ask her to do was reaching out to the tenants of a building that they were buying that were being evicted to offer them a two month gym membership that will be gone.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Like they won't be able to use it after the two months because they'll be gone. Like it's like they're getting evicted and so she has to go to the building and try to convince them to do these gym memberships for people that are being evicted from the building yes yes and then uh while she's doing that so she she kind of looks across the the way but no they uh because there was a there's a truck like backing up or being unloading that caught her attention. She looks over and she sees through the loading dock door, Ice Palace.
Starting point is 00:52:52 So she goes in there. It's like real tattered, falling apart, just real sketchy looking place. It looks rough. Yeah, and so she goes in there. She sees a couple of people ice skating and she wanders over to the end of the rink, and she comes across the Zamboni that's smoking,
Starting point is 00:53:08 and it's sounding all weird. There's a guy working on it, and she's like, hey, are you the rink manager? I need to talk to the rink manager. And he goes, yeah, hold on one second, I'm just fixing this. It's a real delicate process, and then he just fucking smashes the crowbar on it and fixes it. And then he comes down, and he starts walking towards her and there's, you know, the smoke from the ice and the Zamboni machine.
Starting point is 00:53:30 It's real, real fancy looking. It's mystical. Yeah. And then from the, from the dark and the smoke comes our, our boy Emilio Gordon Bombay. Oh, and he's! And he's like, yeah, I'm the rink manager. Are you looking for the, are you trying to rent ice skates? That's over at the front.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Stop talking to me. And she's like, I need a rink. Do you have rink time available? And he's like, he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I can't do that. I hate kids and I don't like hockey. I can't help you. I hate hockey and I don't like kids is the exact quote. I hate hockey and I don't like hockey. I can't help you. I hate hockey and I don't like kids is the exact quote.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I hate hockey and I don't like kids. Yes. And which is also like you brought up to me the other day. It's the exact quote that he has in the very first movie when he's talking to Charlie's mom. It's how he introduces himself to the team after he drives out, he drives the limo out onto the ice, the team gathers around him because they think he's like a mob boss. And he's like, all right, let me just cut it, give it to you straight.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I hate hockey and I don't like kids. And Averman's like, that should be a motivational poster or something. Some quirky Averman comment like that. I thought that was great that they bought that that they brought that back it's fantastic and like averman says it sounds like a great uh motivational poster uh when he says it to uh alex and lauren in the in the series he then points and there's a sign that says no hockey um it's fantastic so then, uh, he walks her back to his office, um,
Starting point is 00:55:06 and she's like trying to break him down. So he'll do it. And then she finally mentions that, uh, or he mentions that the place has fallen apart. He doesn't have any money to fix it or anything. And she goes, Oh,
Starting point is 00:55:16 well I can help you with that. Because like, if you let us rent your rink, we can pay you because there's, she mentions like a, a surplus. Yeah. Dude, how she tracked that.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Do you realize like the amount of like public records and horrifyingly boring steps she would have. Now granted, she works at a law firm. So maybe this is just a part of her job right now. But like that had to have taken a lot of manpower hours for her to track down a youth hockey surplus that late into the year where it's about to start. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. And in her – because she works at the law firm, and they reference it all the time how she's like the grunt. She does all the legwork and stuff, which I would assume is a lot of looking up weird little government policies and stuff. So she probably did it a lot quicker than somebody else would but still a long time still
Starting point is 00:56:10 a long time yeah and the dedication um yeah yeah and the fact that they have a surplus in the youth hockey budget in in the twin cities they're like you would think for a city that's like as starved for hockey as they make it seem they would you know have a better idea of the the they wouldn't have a surplus you know they'd be spending a dollar that that youth hockey budget would have would have been on on on point throughout the entire process but that's how she got it you know like it literally it was so funny to like watch like he was like did you say hockey surplus yeah okay okay we can make some like oh you got some money for me like you're gonna pay about to pay me for this like i can i can probably yeah a hundred percent motivated by by money no no ifs ands or buts about it just he was so steadfast about no hockey but the the slightest mention of money he's like ready to
Starting point is 00:57:01 abandon all of his morals and he's like okay's do this. And the way they portray him constantly, like just like eating the leftovers of the birthday parties and stuff is like, they do such a good job of setting him up as like degenerate ice rink owner. Well, and then like in, in his office, you can see there's, it's just stacks and stacks of like old,
Starting point is 00:57:22 old mail and old bills I'm assuming. But also he has that huge couch across from his desk that has like blankets and pillows on it he's clearly living there yeah i'm sure they'll touch on that later but he's clearly living there um living there sustaining himself off of old birthday cake just you know just scraping by by the skin of his teeth how the How the mighty Bombay has fallen. But she locked it down. She gets it locked in. And then as he's trying to find the form,
Starting point is 00:57:53 we see the brief photo, right? Of Bombay as- On the waves. Yeah, from D2. They bring back the image of him on the waves from D2, and she calls him out and tries to, wait, did you play hockey? Yeah, yeah. And then he brushes it off.
Starting point is 00:58:14 He's like, oh, yeah, I used to play hockey. And then he gives, I forget exactly what he says, but he gives a story about how he played minor leagues for a while and just never made it, which is a little bit different than what we see in D2. Because in D2, it makes it seem that he – because at the end of D1, he leaves to go try out for minor league hockey. And in D2, they show you that he made it.
Starting point is 00:58:38 He's on a team. But it still seemed like that was his first season of going at it. And he gets the knee injury, and he has to pack it up and come back. But so the story he gives to Alex is that he played a couple seasons, but he just couldn't quite make it to the major leagues, or to the NHL or whatever. So I'm kind of interested to see if they might do a little bit of retconning. Or maybe like – because in D3, they say he leaves to go be a lawyer again or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:59:12 But maybe they might do some retconning and maybe he's like – maybe after doing lawyer for a little bit, he was like, I'm going to go try hockey again. My knee's all healed up and he plays a couple of seasons. I don't know. But the story he gives doesn't line up exactly with the rest of the movie. So I wonder if we'll get a little more detail. I'm sure they'll finish piecing that, like
Starting point is 00:59:33 the Bombay after the ducks. I'm sure they'll finish piecing that together as part of the plotline throughout the rest of the remaining episodes. Yeah, they have to. I mean, there's just too many especially to have the ducks like the remaining episodes yeah yeah they have to i mean there's just too many too many especially to like have him have the ducks where the ducks are and have him where he is and just such disrepair they gotta fill in the they gotta fill in the gaps there's just too many unanswered questions
Starting point is 00:59:54 right now they gotta and i mean they they have they're set up for 10 episodes so there's there they have there's no way they don't address any of that you know what we we also didn't talk about as they were we were talking about them recruiting all the kids was how they found Coop. Oh, yes, yes. Them playing video games online and somehow them using FBI channels to backtrace this hockey goalie that they can't score on. So they look up
Starting point is 01:00:26 they're playing him online in a hockey video game and he's just destroying them. Obviously if he's this good at video game hockey, he's got to be great at real hockey, obviously. And eye coordination
Starting point is 01:00:42 off the charts. So they look up his gamer name, his like username. They find that. And then like, it cuts to two seconds later, they're at his house and like walking to his house. Somehow Nick,
Starting point is 01:00:54 the stick had like figured it out, like some kind of FBI nonsense, or maybe he like knows everybody's address from the, the second, the number two youth hockey podcast in Southeast Minnesota. He does his research, research teams on point. But so they get there, they find his house, and then they go downstairs to like convince him.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And he's this bigger dude sitting on like a recliner, just sitting there playing NHL hockey. And they're like, you're so good at video game hockey. We want you to be our goalie in real life. We think you could really help us. And he's basically like, no, I hate people. I don't want to go outside. I don't want to put pants on.
Starting point is 01:01:31 This sounds terrible. Leave me alone. And then they're like, but dude, you're so amazing. You could easily do this. And then they start throwing stuff at him. Reflexes. They're like, you'd be such a good goalie. Watch this.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And they start throwing stuff at him. There's like a cup, a water bottle, and he can, and he's knocking it away, just killing it with his hand-eye coordination. And then good old Nick the Stick picks up a fucking hammer and gets ready to throw that
Starting point is 01:01:57 at him. He's about to drop the hammer on him, literally. Evan cuts him off. I say if you want this guy guy he's your goalie he's gonna take you know slap shots to the dome to protect it i say throw the hammer i don't know i think they messed up on on that aspect i think i think if they really wanted to to get kuban they should they should throw the hammer but anyways i mean i'm all for throwing the hammer i i feel i feel like maybe give them more of a heads up, though, that a hammer is coming.
Starting point is 01:02:27 You can't go from water model to hammer. I was definitely just kidding. They would have lost Coop in about three seconds if they would have, and a half a second if they would have thrown that hammer at him. They not only would have lost Coop, they would have lost Nick the Stick. Nick the Stick would have been in juvie for attempting to hurt him, or actual hurt him. Especially if he misses that hammer.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Yeah, so they did a great job of recruiting him. I love how somehow, some way, someone really good at video games also has amazing hand-eye coordination. Yeah, just fantastic. Not always applicable. But so, yeah, so that kind of wraps up the recruiting pitch for the kids. But so then the next day at school, because the premise of the first episode, they have to get everything in by Friday.
Starting point is 01:03:15 They have to get the team. They only have two days, right? Yeah, two days. They have two or three days to get the full team, ice time, all the stuff put together. Yes, because the opening season team event is on Friday. They need to have everything ready for that. So then on Friday at school, they're kind of doing their last pitch.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Oh, actually, before that, so then Evan and – I think it's Thursday night. Evan and Nick have their first team practice. So they go to the ice skate rink. They meet Bombay. And then Alex is talking with Winnie, who is the snack bar girl. And she ends up spilling her whole life story to Winnie. Well, he obviously has a dad. Yeah, Winnie even makes obviously has a dad yeah when he even
Starting point is 01:04:05 makes a comment like uh because so alex like goes on this whole spiel that gives her whole life story away about how evan's dad isn't in the picture anymore and she actually starts like going into specifics but then like a a coco machine machine goes so we can't hear it but they everybody in the scene can kind of hear it so it kind of like leaves this this mystery of what what happened with evan's dad and then alex makes a comment about like i'm sorry i'm spilling my life out to you and winnie goes oh it's okay people tend to do that at the snack bar just like literally like it's someone saddling up to the bar to spill their guts to the bartender but that was it that was a great allusion to that and then is. And then they don't go too much further with that.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And then we get just some magic out on the ice. Because it was just Nick and Evan out on the ice at first, right? Yeah, so it's Nick and Evan out on the ice. And that's when Nick the Stick comes in with some great fucking stories again. He starts talking about, he's like, so I did my research on this place and um like 10 years ago some kid like fell through the ice and like died um and like that's no big deal i mean we're technically skating on frozen dead boy but that's fine i don't mind it's still cool that's and then uh it's a great it's a great myth yeah well is it a myth that's the question they don't
Starting point is 01:05:28 nobody nobody confirmed or denied it that's wrong we'd have to we need to get bombay's story on that speaking of the the ice palace again in bombay um the other thing i i hope they kind of delve into a little bit going forward is like Hans and Jans. Because like in the first second and third movie, Hans has his they have the skate shop. Yeah. And there's no mention of that, of the
Starting point is 01:05:55 skate shop at all. Obviously those Hans and Jans, I think one of them died R.I.P. while like the second movie was going. And that's why they replaced him, right yeah but then the yawns who was like the replacement that actor is also r.i.p passed away since then so obviously they're not going to bring any of them back for like a cameo or anything like that but i would imagine they'll kind of touch on what what happened
Starting point is 01:06:23 because i mean even there's there's no mention of the skate shop at all. He just has this ice palace, which I don't know how the hell did he get that. Eventually they're going to figure – I assume. That was actually one of the things I assumed. It was like somehow he got this ice palace from Hans or some distant. Yeah. Well, it has to be hot. Or maybe Hendricks did him a solid after he fell apart.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Maybe I would think it has to be Hans though. Cause he's like all his, his, like his dad passed away in the first, before the first movie, there's never any mention of his mom. I doubt it doesn't make sense that he would go in if he hates hockey so freaking much that he would go and buy an ice palace so it has to be like a it has to be a gift from somebody or not a not necessarily a gift but an inheritance yeah he inherited the debt and the mess and all that
Starting point is 01:07:17 stuff and that's probably why he doesn't take a lot of personal pride in getting a clean debt because it's not his it was something he inherited And so it feels like he got stuck with it. You know, that's like the psychology of, of him treating that. But, and also how did Nick, Nick, you know, he alluded to that he didn't have skates and he wasn't super good at skating, but he was holding his own pretty well when him and Evan were out on the ice by themselves. Yeah. He somehow got skates. He he is he is uh he's wearing a bike
Starting point is 01:07:46 helmet i believe and his his hockey stick that he has is uh a hundred percent like the little three dollar ones you get at you can buy like walmart yeah so he's definitely rocking uh not the greatest equipment evan obviously he still has the majority of his equipment from the duck so he's looking fine so then yeah they're skating they're talking about The dead frozen boy and then Logan Comes out he kind of he comes out And like decked out
Starting point is 01:08:14 Decked out in like top notch Like NHL quality gear decked out And they're like he's in He's an authentic Maple Leafs Skier yeah he's wearing From head to toe not just the jersey But all of the equipment a head to toe Toronto Maple Leaf skier. Yeah, he's wearing, yeah, from head to toe, not just the jersey, but all of the equipment, a head to toe Toronto Maple Leafs uniform. And so he's coming out and Evan and Nick are like, this is amazing.
Starting point is 01:08:34 This guy's going to fucking kill it. He's the best. I'm so pumped. And then he steps out on the ice and instantly falls down. Instantly falls down. And then he slowly crawls back up and goes oh i don't know if i mentioned this but i suck that was a classic line too because that was like it just aligned so i was like oh okay perfect he definitely deserves to be on our team but that's when that's when
Starting point is 01:08:59 panic mode hits right oh evan evan fucking loses it yeah he's like oh mom this is it why did you make me do this this is a stupid idea i knew this was a stupid idea how are we even gonna get kids to join this team we've got nick the stick and logan who can't skate and like what are we gonna do how do we get how do we fill out this team mom yeah so that's when he yeah he freaks out he goes he goes up to the the snack bar starts yelling at mom and that's when bombay eat more old birthday cake comes out and he's like uh he's like what the hell are you two doing like you guys you guys are no worse than anybody than the ducks that you hated so much like you guys got to figure this out like mom stop doing everything for him let him make his let him make his own choices and then evan stop being a baby and do something which i mean great
Starting point is 01:09:45 great it's a little a little out of character from like the bombay we know but you know given his his his past that we don't quite know about how he hates hockey again how he's all jaded um it lines up there he's the he's the old jaded man now um rather than the the hopeful gordon bombay but so yeah he gives that little speech and then um and then he does the he mentions um in in passing with mentioning that uh alex needs to step out of the way and let uh evan do something for once in his life um he talks about how because that's the cutting the grapes yeah yeah he's like i bet you still cut his grapes for him right and she and he she goes i I don't have to answer to any of this kind of like parodying quiz that you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:10:29 And then she does. Yeah. And then Evan confirms that she cuts his grapes for him. And that's when Gordon, that's when Bombay tells her, it's like, you're no better than these other moms that are hiring sports psychologists and college counselors. Like you gotta-
Starting point is 01:10:43 They have sports psychologists, you're cutting up a 12 year old's grapes like yeah yeah he's essentially he was like the only difference between them and you is that they can afford a psychologist so he like lays down the law on that and like it's basically just like let you gotta let him make his own fucking mistakes because otherwise he's just you know he's i i think i forget exactly what he says but he says you have to let him make his own mistakes otherwise he's going to grow up and not be a man or something like that he's not going to be able to fend for himself yeah yeah we're just spot on because yeah yeah i mean they didn't really granted they didn't make it seem as bad as the you know the ducks moms uh but there's there's she definitely has that helicopter parent to you where because you can there's a scene when
Starting point is 01:11:23 like right when evan for for Evan and Nick first step on the ice for the practice. And it cuts to her with Winnie at the snack bar. That's when she's, she's like a little worried. She's like, Oh my God, I hope he doesn't fall.
Starting point is 01:11:33 They don't hurt themselves. Yeah. She's just constantly worried about him. So yeah, to get, get that little call out to just like, you gotta let him, you gotta let him fall.
Starting point is 01:11:42 You gotta let him make his own mistakes. And then he challenges Evan. He's like, if you want this team to work, you got to do it. You go find people. You make it happen. That's when the next day, Friday, the deadline day, it cuts to the cafeteria again.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Evan gets on a table and makes this grand speech. He's like, I know. Before he gets on the table and makes a speech, he tries to get everyone's attention. Everyone's like, just trying to get everyone's attention to give his mom's speech. And then he's like,
Starting point is 01:12:13 okay, let me get on the table. No one's paying attention to him. And then, and this bothered me. Poor Nick, the stick has a fresh lunch geared up, ready to eat, ready to nourish
Starting point is 01:12:26 his body, and Evan grabs his lunch and just drops that on the ground to get... Now, granted, he needed to drop the tray to get everyone's attention, but Nick just paid for that lunch, dude. Let him snack on that sandwich or pull that shit off. So he can eat.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Nick even goes... As soon as Evan drops it, Nick even goes, oh, my pudding. Typical kid move to get worried about the pudding, but I saw a full sandwich. Yeah. Well, honestly, I had no issues with him doing that to Nick because at the previous cafeteria scene from a couple days ago, Evan has his lunch. And when he's in a real bad spot and he's like he gets shorted tots he sets it down he picks up his tot thing and he goes there's only five tater tots here not even a full order he sets it down and then nick steals
Starting point is 01:13:15 two of them he reaches over and grabs two he's like oh you didn't want them the way that nick shoves those two tots into his mouth is classic too, because he gives like excess finger pushes in there. Like he could have just popped them in, but he didn't. He, he, he pushed those tots in, got a little finger, finger licking good in there on it too. Okay. We'll keep going. Sorry. That was just a quick tangent because that just,
Starting point is 01:13:43 you freshly paid for lunch and you just throwing a shit on on the ground it's disrespectful evan disrespectful yeah well so he does that then he gives the a whole speech we're not we're definitely not gonna win but it'll be fun i hope does anybody want to join us and then one of the ducks gets up and like tries to make like a joke like i'm not gonna join your team because you're you're stupid or some some dumb kid thing like that and then that's when Coob stands up. Well, because the duck girl tries to throw a Gatorade bottle away, and Coob snatches it out of the air. And he stands up, and he goes, that's not nice. I'll join your team.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Let's do this. And then that's when everybody – so then you get the popular girl, Maya, stands up, and she's like, you know what? I feel the exact same way you do. I want to join this team. And then you get the cosplay girl, Lauren. She steps up, and she's like, you know what? I feel the exact same way you do. I want to join this team. And then you get the cosplay girl Lauren and she steps up and she's like, I'm in. Our daredevil Sam is in. Wait, hold on. How'd they get him though? Evan doesn't get him at first.
Starting point is 01:14:35 He's like, hey Sam, I dare you to join our team. That's right. And then he walks down. Yeah, when somebody dares you to do something, you got to do it. Yeah, so that's how and then he walks down when somebody dares you to do something you gotta do it yeah so yeah that's how Sam gets in I think that's the majority of them right I'm trying to think
Starting point is 01:14:52 yeah I think that's I think that's the the full the full cast and crew which I mean let's be honest right away they're gonna be hurting as far as like you know the line changes and stuff. They have just enough to make a team, let alone, you know, make it through three quarters.
Starting point is 01:15:11 That's six people. That's six people. So, yeah, everybody's playing the full game. At this point in time, there is no bench. Yeah. Everybody's out there for the full – I don't know how many minutes Minnesota youth hockey plays, but for the full 60 minutes of a hockey game, you're out there.
Starting point is 01:15:37 People that have never really played. People that don't even know how to skate. Outside of Evan, I don't think any of them know how to skate. Nick barely. don't even know how to skate none of them yeah outside of evan i don't think any of them know how to skate nick barely oh that was just but like what a what a way to gather the team the lunchroom scene it came full circle coob shut like i feel like the coob making coob making the save on stephanie's daughter i feel like that is not not not stephan Stephanie's daughter. I feel like that is some potential. Not Stephanie's daughter. That wasn't Stephanie's daughter?
Starting point is 01:16:09 I thought that was. Stephanie's kid is the son. It's a boy. It's the goalie. Trevor, yeah. Okay. The dick goalie. When Evan asks if he can borrow a swimsuit, he goes,
Starting point is 01:16:21 that's weird, bro. Yeah. We're still going to your house after practice like i mean to be fair that that is like kind of you know it's not weird to like ask to borrow a swimsuit if you like just forgot it or something but if you just don't own one yeah to plan ahead to borrow somebody's swimsuits a little weird like at that point just just buy your own. But yeah, in the heat of the moment, though, I've definitely borrowed a swimsuit or two.
Starting point is 01:16:51 You know, you forget it. You don't realize somebody has a pool because they didn't tell you and they're like, oh, we should go swim in. You know, that stuff happens. So yeah, they rally the team and then that leads to the Friday night league extravaganza event that they have. Coach T makes reference that like the, the winners of the previous year host this little, like,
Starting point is 01:17:11 like team gala. I forget exactly what he calls it, but essentially it's just showing off all the teams in their uniforms for the season going ahead. And like every team does this too. Like even in college, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:21 like Duke, right. Like in college basketball, Duke has like midnight madness where. Yeah. But that's, that's in college like you know like duke right like in college basketball duke has like midnight madness where yeah but that's that's usually just like celebrate it right that's usually just the duke team though like they don't invite like the university of north carolina or north carolina state this this was just weird because it was like every team in the league there i didn't i didn't understand introduces the Ducks, talks about all their state championships.
Starting point is 01:17:46 He introduces... Yeah, introduces the Adina Hawks, the famous Hawks from the movie one. But the thing with the Hawks though is it's a different logo which is understandable. All the teams have different logos now.
Starting point is 01:18:02 But they changed the color. There's the Cardinals in there too, right? Yeah, so they have all of the teams that were referenced in the first movie so you have the cardinals the bears yeah the hawks i'm trying to think there's there's like three or three or four other ones that they mentioned but yeah they're all uh the same names from the first the huskies is one of them but they changed the hawks colors they they went from black and blue to to and blue, mainly orange. And even like, so they introduced all the teams.
Starting point is 01:18:29 And then they introduce, or before they end this, in the end of the event, Alex comes out. And she's like, wait, wait, wait, we got one more team. We got to introduce us. And Coach T goes, okay, I guess we got one more team. What's your team name? And there's like a little pause and Alex goes, the don't bothers.
Starting point is 01:18:51 And I feel like they were trying to get like a nice little like triumphant. Like, oh, the don't bothers. Like she just served Coach T because that's what he told her to do. Yeah, but it falls flat a because it's a terrible name but also because coach t has zero reaction to it it's like it didn't even phase him he's like i i guarantee you he doesn't even remember that conversation no he just that's
Starting point is 01:19:16 a terrible team yeah he even says are you sure you want to go with that yeah is because it's because it's so incredibly bad it's because what kid in their right mind wants to go out there and says don't bother on the front like that's not something to like get excited or to to be proud of no that's like a yeah that's not how you stick it to them if anything you make that like your team motto you know like yeah you don't make it your team name exactly that's your that's your like bulletin board material yeah don't bother keep telling us painting on a sign and hanging in the locker room don't make it your team name no not at all it's it's the like there's a billion better team names out there like at this point i would have been okay with them and doing some copyright infringement and getting like this point, I would have been okay with them doing some copyright infringement and getting a Pokemon name.
Starting point is 01:20:06 It would have been better to be the Squirtles out there than anything else because the Don't Bothers is terrible, at least with the Squirtles. You would have had a dope logo of Squirtle looking like a badass and squirting at people. Before we get even further into how much I hate the Don't
Starting point is 01:20:22 Bothers team name, I do have to agree with you that the Hawks' color scheme change was oh travesty that that blue and black like the coolest uniform crisp yeah that's that's part of the reason why you hated them so much is because they looked so goddamn cool yeah and because like you you wanted to be on hawks as soon as you watch the first they don't want to be on district five you didn't even really want to be on the Hawks as soon as you watched the first, they didn't want to be on district five. You didn't even really want to be on the ducks, you know, after cause like the Hawks are tough. They, they eat ducks for, for lunch, breakfast and dinner. That's what Hawks do. But yeah, that, that color. And now they just look,
Starting point is 01:20:57 I don't even know if the Edmonton Oilers are still a team. I'm sure they are, but like, that's pretty much what the colors are. For sure. Sorry to all the monster hockey fans i sometimes um get the canadian teams confused because they come and go so often that's fair that's right but yeah yeah they looked uh yeah their color scheme looked exactly like the edmonton oilers um yeah and even like so so they introduced the don't bothers and they're kind of skating out none of them can, so they're all over the place.
Starting point is 01:21:26 They're all falling. Yeah, yeah, and they're all wearing – like two of them are wearing a bike helmet. One of them's – Coob's got a football helmet on, and they're all falling and skating all over the place. And then Maya, the popular girl, she's kind of like not skating around. She ends up skating into the Hawks, and she goes, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I really like the orange though.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I'm sorry. Sorry. skating into the hawks and she goes oh i'm sorry oh i'm sorry oh i really like the orange though i'm sorry sorry so then they all make it to they so all the teams skate underneath like a banner that has their logo and stuff on it except for the don't bothers which i guess makes sense because they don't have a banner their last minute edition but instead of skating to like a lot like in line formation like the other teams they skate all the way way up to center ice and are just staring at the ducks, just staring at them. And that's when Coach T goes, okay, these are all the teams. I hope you guys are ready for the 12 to 14 age bracket.
Starting point is 01:22:13 It's going to be awesome. Hitting, full hitting is allowed. Hip checks. And then they play. Then he goes, roll the footage. And they play a video. It's not even like a – it's not a montage of it's not a it's not a montage of the youth teams playing it's a montage of professional hockey players just smashing each other why why are we
Starting point is 01:22:32 showing this at the team event why two concerned parents like there's no parents watching that going like awesome i can't wait to pay for a torn b ACL because my youth hockey child just blew out both knees because he just got murdered against the glass. Yeah. Coop wearing the football helmet, another genius move. Shout out to Karp. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, Karp in the first movie is District 5. Rocked.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Yeah. That hockey house. That football house. Now that you mention it, they do with like the ragtag little thing that they're – the ragtag little outfits they have and all the equipment. It's definitely hearkening back to the first couple games they played as District 5 when everybody's wearing just whatever they could find. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And then they even do when they come out, whatever they could find. Yeah, definitely. And then they even do, when they come out, once they get announces the don't bothers, Evan announces, Evan like screams like flying V and then they come out in what begins as a V motion and then everybody falls down. Yeah. Classic. And so then they show that the hitting montage,
Starting point is 01:23:41 it floats down to Evan's face and you hear him go, oh crap, or something like that. Just kind of he's he's a good boy yeah and like like coach t mentioned at the beginning he's the smallest kid like they show far and away yeah a couple of the scenes from the the beginning practice when he's on the ducks you can see how small he is compared to the other kids and then with all these kids he's outside of kube who's he's huge evan's the biggest one on that team and so you yeah they're all super small i'm they're just gonna get rocked if if if i i can't imagine they'll show too much hitting in the in the in the show but no because they they don't want to promote it, but is there any way they...
Starting point is 01:24:26 Because with youth hockey, I'm pretty sure it's like a run rule, where if you're down by 20, there's no way they don't lose by 30 goals in their first. They can't even skate. They don't have any bench.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Yeah, they can't skate, they can't move, they don't have any players. God knows how Coob's going to be playing. Yeah, they can't skate, they can't move, they don't have any players. God knows how Koob's going to be playing goalie. I can't imagine well. Dude hasn't left his basement since God knows how long. There's no way he's going to be a solid goaltender. Yeah, he's got the hand-eye coordination down, but
Starting point is 01:24:58 like they showed, he falls down every time he gets on the ice skates. There's no way he can move. Yeah, it's going to he can move. Sit there. It's going to be a nightmare. A nightmare for sure. Hopefully it'll turn around. I imagine
Starting point is 01:25:15 the way they've kind of set it up, I imagine it'll turn around at some point. I'd be shocked if the Ducks ended up in the first movie they won the championship. I would be shocked shocked if they end up like like the ducks ended up went in the first movie they won the the championship i would be shocked if that's how this season ends there's i just don't think there's any way you could with the way they've set it up and how like monstrous the ducks are i don't i don't think we'll end i don't think we're gonna have like
Starting point is 01:25:40 a fully happy ending i think it'll be like uh you know they they probably like make it to the playoffs and they get just run over by the ducks. And then I would imagine some somewhere down the line, you know, there's going to be like a switch where like Bombay takes back over the ducks and, but who knows?
Starting point is 01:25:58 But so, yeah, so that that's the end of episode one. That's kind of how it breaks down. Yeah. It was like I said, it's, it was a lot better than it's it was a lot
Starting point is 01:26:06 better than i thought it was going to be i had rock bottom expectations though so it's it's definitely no uh they hit me with the intrigue like i'm intrigued i'm not i'm not hooked i'm not locked in but i'm intrigued to see you know what what's happening next and what's going on super intrigued they hit the nostalgia factor talk about like some easter eggs i noticed uh here in a little bit oh yeah they hit the nostalgia factor they got emilio in it i think that's crucial and i i know there there's there's been photos leaked um of like some of the the original ducks coming back for an episode or two yeah that'll be a great episode i i imagine but i think it's it's super
Starting point is 01:26:46 super important that they have emilio at least for for like art like me and use age bracket like if if emilio it wasn't in this and there was nobody tying me to the old stuff that i i would lose interest real quick i wouldn't be i i would have no no interest in watching this but the fact that he's there kind of ties me in. I'm like, okay, I need to see. Especially now that he's just a jaded old man. I need to see what's going on here. It makes it relatable, too. It's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:27:14 life's a bitch and then you die. Emilio Estevez is feeling that, too. I think that you're right. Them playing up the nostalgia is going to keep folks like us, like, sticking around just to give it the old college try and make sure that it works out okay. So, I think the more they play, they can't depend on it fully because they have to create their new storylines. They have to create their new dynamics and everything.
Starting point is 01:27:41 But I do love every piece of the nostalgia. Should we talk about the Easter eggs now? Because I love the Easter eggs. Yeah, we can talk every piece of the nostalgia let's should we talk about the easter eggs now because i love the easter eggs yeah yeah yeah let's yeah we can talk about some of the easter eggs there's uh quite a few the the first one being so evan throughout the episode is wearing a minnesota maroon and gold shirt which is the for Minnesota University he's wearing a Minnesota gold maroon sweatshirt which is the same design slightly different design but the same essence
Starting point is 01:28:11 of the sweatshirt that Charlie wears throughout the first movie and I think even I think he even wears it into the other movies I'm not entirely sure I think it might just be a first movie thing because he wears it in their first couple games it's District 5 for sure yeah he wears it as the as the you know as his jersey there before they get the actual ducks jerseys so yeah so evans rocking the same
Starting point is 01:28:32 sweatshirt that charlie did the other one we we talked about the the football helmet going back to the equipment but kub wearing the football helmet throwback to carp yep yep so yeah same same along those lines and then right out the get-go the first uh shot you get of the series is it's showing the ducks home arena which is named the hendrix uh hockey pavilion and hendrix is the uh like the sportswear company that sponsors them in the second movie the one that makes their uniforms and starts, starts trying to make the air bomb bays. I was just going to say, I was just going to say,
Starting point is 01:29:11 do you think they actually came out with the air bomb bays, the, the loafers, the, the coaching loafers, the air bomb bays? I hope so. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:29:21 There's lots of look into that. Hopefully they bring, they bring that back around the air bomb bays, but yeah, the Hendrix Motorsports right off the gate. Not Hendrix Motorsports. That's an actual company. That's an actual. The Motorsport is CKS, though, whereas the place or the company,
Starting point is 01:29:41 the sportswear company in the second movie is IX. But yeah, so they hit you with the Hendrix right out the company, the sportswear company in the second movie is just is IACS. But yeah, so they hit you with the Hendrix right out the gate, which is an awesome callback to the second movie. And then you also get a call callback to the first movie with because Alex is works at a law firm with with the other mom, Stephanie. And you get the Duckworth law firm. It's the same law firm from the first movie and then i think you mentioned earlier as well another easter egg was the the same line that he gives to the the kids that he gives to alex where it's i hate hockey and i don't like kids or is i hate kids and i don't like hockey one of the i hate hockey and i don't like kids there you go the final easter egg that i kind of noticed uh and i have to believe this was intentional, was Gordon Bombay eating cake the entire episode. That had to be intentional because they were so obvious about it each time.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Because they alluded to it as a Wreck-It Ralph cake, just like this Wreck-It Ralph cake, you know, is hard and crusty on the outside and rough, but soft in the middle. Yeah, and then they call it the first one to you, the first cake he eats, because he's like shouting at Winnie. He's like, how old is this?
Starting point is 01:30:45 How old's the cake? She's like, oh, it's about three hours. And he's like, perfect. I love the Bombay cake reference. I thought that was classic. So clever for them to work that in and also move it through the storyline that he's such a degenerate that he won't, he doesn't just
Starting point is 01:31:01 eat the leftover pizza. He will literally eat the leftover cake for dinner like that is his dinner is this nasty three-hour super gross crusty walmart cake oh yeah i imagine he eats way more of the cake than he eats the pizza because i mean i there's hardly ever any leftover pizzas at birthday parties it's usually just like like a little bit of the cake. So I would imagine his diet consists of like 90% old birthday cake, especially if he's living in the freaking ice pack. Which I'm 90% sure he is. Snacking, like the concession snacks are also his groceries for the week.
Starting point is 01:31:39 So his cholesterol is probably a disaster. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but so you got that. Oh, so actually that's the episode so so this isn't an easter egg but i wanted to talk about this real quick because i thought it was hilarious the episode doesn't end with uh the team event it actually there's a little scene right after that where alex is alex's mom talks about like her ice skating like this ice skating routine she did when she was in high school yeah to whitney she talks about that earlier in the episode so then they come back after the team introducing event and alex is like
Starting point is 01:32:10 hey here's our home rink like everybody go take a look at it see see what it's like and then bombay makes her do the ice skating routine and he's got the again to show how hard uh bombay has fallen he doesn't the Ice Palace does not have a sound system. Instead, he has a boom box that he plugs a USB, like a second-generation iPod into, and then plays Whitney through that. Classic. Just amazing.
Starting point is 01:32:40 And the ice skating bit is done so poorly, because you can clearly see that it's a body it's like a stunt double it's somebody it's not lauren lauren graham is not ice skating at all in that it is like you know for a disney production that it was bad like it was so the cut scenes were so obvious like cut to face cut to cut to skating, cut to face, cut to skating, right? So deliberately done. It was like, oh my God. Yeah, the ice routine.
Starting point is 01:33:13 I felt like that wasn't maybe necessary to move the plot line along, but it was a fun. Well, it wasn't, yeah. It wasn't necessary to move the plot line along. At least I don't think so far, but it does give you – I mean there are spatterings throughout the episode. And then this scene especially where you get the flirty Bombay with the hockey mom. You get a little flirty Bombay. Classic Bombay move. It wouldn't be a Mighty Ducks movie without Bombay trying to sleep with somebody.
Starting point is 01:33:43 What's the point – no, I shouldn't say that. What's the point of coaching youth hockey if you can't, you know, get him, get a mom or two along? But yeah, so I'm sure like these next couple episodes, you know, that, that little love, love relationship is definitely going to blossom. What does possible sound like for your business? It's having the spend that powers your scale with no preset spending limit. More cash on hand to grow your business with up to 55 interest-free days.
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Starting point is 01:34:40 that are American made and built to outlast the fast fashion trends. They also plant a tree in boulder colorado for every product sold visit brokenforestco.com and use the code cake eaters 15 for 15 off your order so for next episode the kind of sneak peek they give is a little peek into alex's ridiculous coaching methods and so evan and there's a little peek into Alex's ridiculous coaching methods. And so Evan, there's a little, you can tell Evan's not super happy. He's starting to realize exactly what he got himself into here.
Starting point is 01:35:13 I mean, Evan is going from Coach T, who runs a highly productive, authentic hockey practice to his mom running a hockey practice, who we found out in this episode still cuts his grapes for him. So I feel like the, the approach from coach T who's talking about hitting and, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:37 that kind of stuff with the games and suddenly go into Alex's coaching method where we're cutting grapes. We can see some interesting stuff about that. Oh, yeah. She's just going to be just a worried mess the whole entire episode. The little synopsis says Evan is skeptical of Alex's unique approach to coaching as the team gets ready to play its first game. So I don't know if we get the first game in the next episode
Starting point is 01:35:59 or maybe that's episode three. It'll be interesting to see how all that works out, how bad they lose. I wonder if they will actually show the score, because if you have a team of six, where four of the six can barely skate, and you're playing a full team, full roster of individuals who have been playing hockey for the past five or six years. And there's no way they lose by less than 20, 25 goals. Oh yeah. Cause they're 12 now they can run it up.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Yeah. I would assume if I'm assuming if you're allowed to hit, there's probably no mercy rule. So it's just, it's full game no matter how bad it gets. So that, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:44 25, 30 goals. Maybe. I think that yeah, 25, 30 goals maybe. I think that Evan might be good. Especially because I don't know who they're playing, but if they're playing the Ducks, it's for sure 40 goals easy. Oh, yeah. There's no way they can start these guys out on the Ducks. They've got to somehow work them in because I feel like they would be too much
Starting point is 01:37:02 like D2 when they played Iceland and they just got worked over and it was really crazy, but I just feel like they have to like tiptoe them in a little bit. Otherwise they would just be so discouraged because Evan's about to find out really quickly that like, you know, sometimes just participating and getting murdered by other teams for 10 straight weeks isn't as much fun as you think it is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:28 It's going to get – he's going to get a wake-up call. Yeah, that participation trophy is going to come at a heavy price. It's going to come at the form of you getting worked over on the boards. Yeah, especially because I imagine he's the only one. From the quick little personality shots you get of everybody, all the kids, and especially his mom, Evan's going to be the only one that cares about this. He's the only one with formal hockey training.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Yeah, yeah. Like Nick's just there for the fucking fun of it. He doesn't care what's happening. Yeah, Logan's probably just there for the fun of it. I don't think he's not going to care. No one else would let him play. He wants to play hockey. He just can't.
Starting point is 01:38:06 Yeah. Same with the two girls. I doubt they're going to care. They couldn't skate either. Coob's definitely not going to care. He didn't want to do this in the first place. Yeah. So, yeah, Evan's going to be the –
Starting point is 01:38:17 so it's not only are they going to get worked, but then they're going to get worked, and he's going to be like, okay, guys, we need to get better, and nobody's going to listen to him. They're like, we're just having fun, bro. We're just here to be like okay guys we need to get better and nobody's going to listen to them they're like we're just having fun bro we're just here we're just here to be to be a part of the group and yeah so we'll see how how that dynamic shifts i want to see how they continue to incorporate bombay and the easter eggs like they have to i'm excited to see the easter eggs escalate i wonder if they escalate
Starting point is 01:38:45 or if they uh or if they start to dip a little bit because they've they've gotten us in and they don't want us to want us to pay attention to show and not constantly looking for easter eggs i'll be curious how that continues yeah i would imagine because i mean the the easter eggs in this first one weren't it wasn't anything overt like it was just like little like you know a sweatshirt here the same line and then just like little sweatshirt here, the same line, and then just little drops of stuff. I would imagine that's how it'll be going forward. Other than the possible reunion episode,
Starting point is 01:39:13 I doubt there's going to be any overt Easter eggs. It'll all be little stuff that's named after stuff like that. And yeah, you got to imagine, because right now Alex is the coach. They mentioned that at the end of this this first episode alex is the coach but you got to imagine bombay is gonna he's gonna become the coach by the end right if not earlier it feels like they're alluding to it like they're it's they're he's gonna he's gonna fight and he's gonna fight and he's gonna fight and something's gonna happen and something's gonna trade you and he's going to fight and something's going to happen and something's going to trade, you know, he's going to push back. Right. Because that's what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:39:47 He's like, Oh no, no, no. I hate hockey. And I, and I don't like kids, but eventually something is going to be there to melt the heart. You know, the Grinch's heart will grow three sizes that day and he'll take over as the coach and Disney will have some sort of finish like that. It has to. Yeah. This is not a one-season show. This is going to get two or three. They'll go as long as they can drag this out.
Starting point is 01:40:20 So I'm interested to see if they resolve any of that at the end of this season. That's a good point. Because, I mean, the end of the season, we might get – I think in order to drag it out into multiple seasons, I think you've got to end this season with Bombay finally being the coach of the Don't Bothers, right? As like a cliffhanger. Full-on coach. He's behind the bench, everything like that.
Starting point is 01:40:43 And then I think season two is when you have You kind of bring in the Ducks He kind of takes back over the Ducks I feel like this is going to be Such a slow burn He's not going to be coach of the Ducks At the end of the season, there's no way There's going to be a slow burn of resolution
Starting point is 01:41:00 Throughout the course I'm excited about it It's nothing It's nothing that's going to win Emmys. It's definitely not an Emmy award winning show by any means, but at least it intrigued me. I'm excited to have the Ducks back and I'm excited to be quacking again. Yeah, it's definitely so much better
Starting point is 01:41:22 than I thought it was going to be with my rock bottom expectations. But yeah'm intrigued i'm pumped i'm excited to see where where emilio takes us here my expectations are going up with with especially with this episode because you got you got emilio's in it the fact that there's so many uh old people in it i think is exciting because you got emilio the the guy who wrote the first movie i forget if he wrote the second the third i think he did as well but he's he's a writer on this he's a show creator on this he's he's heavily involved with this so that's that's good it's the same guy he's same touch um formity yeah yeah and then with the reunion episode coming up that'll be that that's
Starting point is 01:42:04 what i'm excited for. I know it's going to be like some – It's going to be a little cheesy. It's going to be all the cheesiest, but I'm so excited for it. Just to see – I love the cheesies. The leaked photos, they show Kenny Wu. Kenny Wu?
Starting point is 01:42:17 Wu, Wu, Wu, Kenny Wu. I was obsessed with Kenny Wu when I first saw that movie. He's the best I'd love to see a return of Dwayne You know when the roosters are growing And the cows are turning circles in the pasture Ducks fly together Yeah we need Dwayne
Starting point is 01:42:38 We need Julie the cat I know she wasn't in any of the leaked photos So I doubt she's going to be in this But we need Julie the Cat. You know my feelings about Julie the Cat Gaffney in Goldberg when it comes to playing time in detail. Goldberg is, no offense to anybody involved, especially Sean Weiss, the actor who plays Goldberg,
Starting point is 01:43:02 but the character of Goldberg is a complete waste of time and space. I loved Goldberg. He's a great character. He was fine in the first one. He was fine in the first one when he didn't have competition, when he was just a goalie. He was fine. As soon as you bring Julie the Cat Gaffney in, ship Goldberg
Starting point is 01:43:21 up. Get him the fuck out of here. Just put him on the bench. He would have been okay with it, I think, too. Goldberg did not seem like the type of person that would get upset when the backup goalie is clearly better than him.
Starting point is 01:43:35 In the third one, he fought tooth and nail to keep that starting job. That's true. A little personal pride stepped in. I can't wait for the reunion episode if we can get some Julie the Cat Gaffney back here. She's got to come in season two. If not,
Starting point is 01:43:51 Julie, if you're listening to this, please come on the podcast. We need you on the podcast. Listen, if we can get Julie the Cat Gaffney on here, we're shutting it down. No goals will be scored that day. That's 100. I'm excited
Starting point is 01:44:10 for episode two. I'm excited for the rest of the season. Again, I don't think it's going to be great, but it's going to be good enough, I think. Hey, and if it's good enough, we can still bother. Well, let's leave it on that. Everybody else, we'll talk to you next time.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Everyone else, keep bothering with our podcast. Thank you.

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