The Cake Eaters - 108. Sudden Death

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Heath and Brandon are finally blessed with a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie. On today's episode the boys talk through Sudden Death! They go over women's mascots, deciphering the bad guy's plan, JCVD's crappy kids, not even one split, the logisitics of finishing this hockey game, and their overall love of this 90s classic.Follow us on Instagram @thecakeeaterspodEmail us at [e-mail]

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Penguins and black hawks fighting for the cup, game seven and then suddenly you are being held hostage, but you don't know, no one knows that there's terrorists terrorizing the vice president. Brandon, the mayor's wife, annoys the shit out of the terrorists. She gets shot and the mayor's like damn that's a bummer and then Jean then John Claude's kids get kidnapped by the mascot. Mascot is mascotting. Oh wait, it's not her. That was a tragedy. Mascot tragedy.

Now we've got people in a helicopter crushing into the arena. Sudden death. Sudden death. That was wild. Just gently went through the plot line, though, Brandon. Yeah, spoilers. Jesus. You did bring up two amazing points, though. First one was the mayor and his wife.

That mayor left his wife out to dry hardcore. We'll we'll talk about the mayor and his wife, that mayor left his wife out to dry. Hardcore. We'll talk about the mayor and his wife in a second. You gotta tell people why we're listening to this. The bad guy spent 30 minutes telling the mayor that he was gonna kill his wife and the dude didn't get up from his seat. He didn't do anything. Well, because didn't he tell him to sit down and shut up and if they move, he was gonna kill him?

Yeah, try something. You just let him shoot your wife. I would, I would sacrifice you Brandon. And that's not your wife. I'd be like, Hey, would you sacrifice Kelly? No, no. Okay. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You're right. I would sacrifice you too, but you're not my wife. I'm not. Why? What is the movie we're doing? Brandon and why? We are doing the 1995 American classic sudden death starring Jean-Claude Van Damme and Luke Robitaille.

Our favorite Ducks cameo member, Luke Robita. Our favorite ducks cameo member, Luke Robita. Just he killed it. He killed it in this, in this movie. This movie is so good. So he mentioned in friends when, when Monica started dating Jean Claude Van Damme. Yeah. So like I was just watching sudden death and now I'm dating Jean Claude. This movie might be my favorite John GlennClaude Van Damme movie because it's the only movie of his that ever even approaches trying to explain his accent.

Because in every, in every other movie he plays an American hero, but he's got a fucking like French Belgian accent and they never address it. They never talk about it. It's like, why does this, why does captain America have a fucking French accent that doesn't make any goddamn sense? This movie, they touch on it briefly when he's talking to Luke Robita because Luke Robita is French Canadian. Oh yeah. So him and him and Luke Robita have a conversation in French. And then they meant,

I think his son mentions that he played, um, he's like from, um, French Canada and he played hockey out there growing up. So they, they, they at least tried to explain why he has a crazy accent and nobody else in the movie does. Well, I mean, do not sleep talking about Jean Claude Van Damme classics, do not sleep on Street Fighter. See, that's the captain. That's where he literally plays like a Captain America and he's got a French fucking accident.

And they don't, they don't talk about it at all. If you've watched that, Brandon, you know, speaking of not to double date our podcast, but speaking of you, you know, logging into my prime, if you want to watch that street fighter movie, Saddle up partner, it's in there waiting for you. Just go into those purchases. It's good because if you're looking for any, it's okay. It's, it's, it's one of my least favorite John Clavin, Dan movies. What's, what's the one where they go to the, um, to the Cobra Kai. No, not the Cobra Kai where they go to the, um, to the Cobra Kai. No, not the Cobra Kai,

where they go to the blood sport. Yeah. The Kuma to you, idiot, the Kuma day. Damn it. What did I say? The Cobra? Way off the worst movie ever. Karate kid. Well, you know, it's not the worst movie ever. What was, what was the name of it? I keep wanting to call it kickboxer, but that's a different movie. Bloodsport bloodsport is easily my favorite Jean Claude. I remember when my friend's brother rented that for us for, for a birthday party way back in the day, it was just like, my God, this is, this might be the coolest thing.

Is a his sidekick, the revisionvenge of the Nerds guy, amazing. Yeah. Crushing it. That's not the best Jean-Claude Van Dane movie though. Do you wanna know what the best Jean-Claude Van Dane movie is? What? Time Cop. Time Cop.

Nailed it. I haven't seen Time Cop in a million years. It's on, dude, do you have Peacock? It's on Peacock. Oh, is it? All right, I'll have to. I watched it the other day, it's so good. What's the, I was super sad. It left before I had a chance to watch it on prime video.

It's the one double team with him and Dennis Rodman. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's, that's one I've got to get back into. I've got to just see what a Jean Claude Van Damme, Dennis Rodman collab looks like. Because and this is that I as I was watching this movie, I was like, my God, this is if diehard met hockey.

And then I looked at all of the Rotten Tomatoes reviews and everyone's like, so it's basically just if diehard took place at a hockey game. And I loved everything about it. Yeah. And people are complaining. I sounds like a recipe for success. That's listen.

I am shocked that this didn't get more runtime on TNT. I just cannot believe this didn't get more runtime on TNT as a kid because honestly, this should have won best picture. And that, I mean the, the, my hands down favorite part of this movie and the highlight will forever be when he shoots down that helicopter and it perfectly drops through the arena and blows up on the ice. Like if that's not somehow doesn't, doesn't touch his daughter, just right underneath it. Yep. It's, it that's not a go home like epic shot of nonsense and amazingness.

Like it was, I loved it. I completely forgot because I've seen this movie before. I completely forgot about the roof opening. It was the, I will say the bad guy to crushed it. The bad guy, he was ruthless. He was terrible. He was like, I'm not sure I like you. When I make up my mind, you'll be the first to know.

It was great. Yeah. I think we can all agree. The mayor's wife has been the most annoying. Yeah. I think we can all agree the mayor's wife has been the most annoying. Yeah. Yeah. It's a young wine, frisky, almost impetuous, wouldn't you say? Yeah, he's good.

It's just, I just, and Jean Claude, like the movie kicks off with Jean Claude, Claude Van Damme as Jean Claude. That's that actually sounds good, but he is a firefighter going to rescue a little girl, finds the girl, the house collapses on him and she dies in his arms. That's how we start the movie. He becomes a disgrace firefighter where everybody talks, everybody makes fun of him because he's afraid. They're like, they're like, uh,

he's not a firefighter anymore. He's a fucking nerd. Cause that, cause that girl died. Yeah. That girl died in his arms. What a little bitch. Like why is he being such a little bitch about that? Um, that was that. And his, even his kid was like, yeah, dad's pretty much a pussy now is he can't do shit cause he couldn't save that little girl. Yeah. That that themes are out the now is he can't do shit. Cause he couldn't save that little girl. Yeah. That, that, that themes throughout the movie, fucking me up. Do you, whether they go, yeah, dude, uh, let that, that girl die. What a fucking bitch. Yeah. Pansy ass firefighter.

My God. It was just, I, and then like what, uh, the, the, the, the line I wrote down is when he goes to, uh, see the kids, kids, right? Two years later. Yeah. And he's talking to the stepdad because he got a job at the arena as the fire inspector and the stepdad threw in this fucking line where he goes, yeah, but it's, it's temporary.

Yeah. It's like, fuck you, dude. I thought that was such a good stepdad line. Yeah. Right. That was such a good step dad line. Yeah. Right? Like there's such a good step dad line. I, I gotta be honest with you, Brandon. This is you've, you've done well.

This is an, you did, you did well again here, back to back times. And this, this movie, now I could have taken about 15-ish minutes off. Like, you know what I mean? Like if you shave 15 minutes off this movie, this is gold. Cause I, I don't even know how to tell you how many different things I liked about this movie from how they, like the,

the way they infiltrated the stadium, loved it. Like the, the ruthlessness shocked me. Like I couldn't like, when they killed the, they killed everyone. The dude's wife. That was that I, cause they did, they, they just, they had a couple of cold scenes mixed in where he like gets her in the garden and then he gets her in the house and he has her get him cookies. Big Newtons. Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck is going on here?

And then they reveal that it's like the dude's wife and I was like, okay. But I was very confused for a couple of seconds. Same. I was like, I don't know where this lady fits in, but she, there's no way she's surviving. Like this is, this is crazy. And they just, they literally killed everyone. That was not Jean Claude Van Damme. Well, yeah, cause you can't, you can't kill Jean Claude Van Damme. No, no. They tried to, they tried to.

The little, the little bitch ass mascot tried to. The biggest travesty of it all was the mascot dude. And when he found her strung up in that closet, yeah, I have a couple of mascot questions for you since you're there. Our mascot expert Warren. Um, I didn't know girls were allowed to be mascots. Can you shed light on when, uh, when that legislation was passed? Brandon, it, it's not, it's not about the sex of the mascot.

It's about the performance once you're in the suit. Okay. You know, it's, it's, it's, this is equity. This is what we're talking about. Does my follow up my follow up question? Um, because, uh, I know you don't care for women. You've made that very clear. Oh my God. Do you think psychopath, do you think this movie reinforces your idea that women can't be mascots? Cause they both women that are in the mascot suit fail miserably.

The first one was what was wrong with Julia or whatever. There's no way when you are suited up and Perry the penguin or whatever her name was. She got killed. There's no way when you are suited up in Perry the Penguin or whatever his name was. Iceberg, his name was Iceberg. Iceberg the Penguin. Or her name was Iceberg. You're like, that was a sneak attack sniper shot. What about the lady that was like, hey Iceberg and then she just murdered a lady

in the bathroom and that's how Jean Claude's kid got in trouble. Dude, bringing the super soaker into the hockey game too. Wow. Nineties was that dude pre nine 11. Yeah. You know, he used to be a proper country. Brandon iceberg shoulda, shoulda just marked that little, that little girl in the bathroom, dude, the fact that he was like, can someone please make this cow stop moaning and then kills the wife and then makes the husband,

sorry, not to randomly go back to the wife thing, but I forgot that he just, like, the husband didn't do a good job defending her. He didn't do anything. He literally does not move. The bad guy has the husband just grieving for the entire second period and then kills him though. That's that's the he got the word.

The mayor got the worst of all of this. He did the worst. Brandon stop that is he didn't move a single muscle to protect his wife. What if he was in shock? He didn't move a single muscle to protect his wife. What if he was in shock? Like he is in shock. Like he's not built like that, Brandon.

I mean, he's, he's got to be better than that. I just, the OG mascot strung up. I was so sad when I saw she was dead, but when he killed, I thought she was going to be a double agent until they, the, the other girl took the mat, the mask off. Yeah. Um, but the, how he, she got stuck in the industrial dishwasher and I could choked her out. That was good stuff. Yeah. That was a good kill.

Like that was a good Jean Claude van Damme kill. Like if we're, if we're, we're grading kill shots, that one's number one. I don't know, chicken bone to the neck was pretty good. I thought it was a T-bone. It was some kind of bone. Yeah, bone to the neck. Chicken bones are gonna be pretty skinny and frail, you know, like you need a T-bone.

Well, you can still do it. Well, that would be the beauty of the chicken bone is you stab it in there and then it breaks apart. Yeah. I can't get it out. I can't get it out. You're chicken boned for life. Yeah. Oh my God.

It's, did you see that he did the Wakando forever handshake with his daughter when he left the seats? Like they did thing and he gave her that. Do you know what the, did you not pay attention to any of these movies that you watched? Why? Sign language for love. They were doing sign language to each other. Oh my God. I forgot about that. Cause the little brother says, she's pretending. Yeah. She's practicing to be deaf. That's what he says.

Oh my God. What a response from the older brother. I had that written in my notes and I can, I like looked at it earlier and I was like, what the fuck is that? I completely forgot until you brought it back up. I loved the hymns as smuggling the super soaker into the thing and his response to her practicing sign language was definitely a sign of the times there too. smuggling the super soaker into the thing and his response to her practicing sign language was definitely a sign of the times there too. Right. Yeah. And then he fucking sprays her in the face.

Yeah, that was a real dick move. That kid sucked. Yeah. You could tell his parents were divorced and he was ashamed of his dad. When that girl died. Yeah. What a fucking nerd. Yeah.

Yeah. What a fucking nerd. Yeah. Yeah. But I, I honestly loved how they took over the stadium. I loved the prep where they met it beforehand. I loved the bad guy. I loved how he handled the little stuffed animal, uh, bomb, little stuff, penguin bomb. Great. Yep. I loved how he handled all the, like how unhinged he got, loved all every single bit of how he handled that. So he was just trying to get, never understood his end game. I will say that. Like I wrote that down. I was like, you know, it's the end of the movie and I'm not sure if I ever fully understood the bad guys end game. Cause like he's, he wanted the money,

but part of the money was a distraction. While the other part of the money, they were able to get off Scott free. Did you pick up on that? No, he mentioned he was, he was former secret service too, right? Yeah. Um, cause he knows too much. Oh, and then the twist, the CIA guy was in on it all along, which was weird. It didn't make sense that he took out one of the guys trying to kill Jean Claude and then turns out he was trying to kill Jean Claude.

Like why wouldn't you just kill him then? Yeah, that didn't make sense. That was a, that was a plot hole for sure. Yeah. Hole in the plot, Brandon. Yeah. The hallmark, the hallmark thing was real weird. That was his name by the way. Hallmark. Yeah. Um, did, did John Claude do the splits in this movie? Remember that was like one of his, like, that was like a token John Claude movie that somewhere in the movie, he, he does the splits. I feel like he does. in the movie he, he does the splits. You're like, he does.

Did I have IMDB for this pulled up and it is just running. Oh, he does it. Previews for Jean Claude Van Damme movies in the background on repeat. And it's, it's pretty good. I might have to, I need to add time cop. What was time cop on again?

You said, was it cop on again? He said was it peacock? Yeah, I Think he does he do it in the mascot fight when oh maybe maybe he does I I might have missed it. I Cuz do you know what I'm talking about though like Like the splits and him doing the splits in the fight scene. It was, it's like all of the moves. Yeah. That's what he's known for.

I think he does it when he's fighting the, that, uh, and I'm glad you agree with me that dumb girl mascot. I never once agreed to that. I never said it was true. Um, I think the ladies can drive their Mercedes in the mascots anytime they want. Jeep mascots mail. That's our, that's our new hat. Brandon. No, we still need to make cocaine great again. Did you know, I sent you an Instagram was like, we just, we need to make smoking cool again. That's what we need to make.

Like you look cool when you smoke, like, once again, he was smoking in the box with the VP, had a wild lighter. Remember when you could, like, cool kids would have Zippo lighters that they would use for their cigarettes? You know, I'm like, we need to make, we need to make smoking great again.

Everyone kind of smelled bad. You have the smoking and non-smoking sections. Like it actually made a difference. Classic. I don't know if we need to make smoking cool again. We need to make vaping as, as nerdy and lame as it is though. No, but smoking is cool. Like you look cool when you smoke. That's the thing. Like that's why, like bring back Joe camel too.

I want him back, you know, bring back the Marlboro man. Like let's, let's get real. I just don't want people vaping. We need to stop with the vape. Get, bring it, bring back and bring back cigarettes, you know, just take a little bit of the chemical out of them. You know, bring back some healthier tobacco and cigarettes. Yeah. I'm watching this mascot fight to see if he does a splits.

There's so much because it happens in the kitchen. There's so much like food and then he puts her, puts her in the fucking overhead fan. The overhead fan is great. What about when he puts her hand in the fryer? You think they cleaned out the friars afterwards? Uh, I don't know. Um, I don't think, I don't think they're the, they had a helicopter crash land on the ice.

I don't think they're having a game anytime soon. He's, I do think they did a good job of not making red pepper flakes to the eye. Yeah, that was a great move. I think, I think, I think the splits come in here. They did a good job of making him like a regular fighter and not like a super man fighter. I don't think he did the splits this movie, Brandon. Pretty sure. I would have remembered. I would have wrote it down. Shame on you, John Claven.

Yeah, but I thought they did a good job of like not making him like an unstoppable. Suddenly he's like a superhuman fighter person. Like he fought those people like he was a, you know, like a fire marshal that didn't save someone. Just disgraced fire marshal. Yeah, like a fire marshal that didn't save someone. Just disgraced fire marshal. Yeah, disgraced fire marshal. Yeah. And so he's fighting them. Brandon.

Anyways, what a fucking movie, though, this was so good. I enjoyed this movie. I once again, like it's it just checked all of like the terrible nineties, mid nineties action flicks. Like let's put Jean Claude in it. Let's have some explosions. Let's have a ruthless bad guy. And I was all in on this movie.

We were missing. It was just a little too long though. It was just 15 minutes too long. Give me those 15 minutes back. Yeah. This movie's awesome. Yeah. You know, you could do is you cut out the, uh, those lame ass girl mascots, cut them out.

What is your deal? What? Like, like, what's, I'm trying, I'm trying to go viral. Is this the medicine? Like, I don't know what's wrong with you, man. Like just, I'm trying to go viral and I know how much you don't like women. So I'm trying to, you and I know how much you don't like women. So I'm trying to hop on. You need to lock it up, Brandon. You absolutely need to lock it up. You're getting completely out of control. Trying to go viral. I'm trying to get us canceled. He,

well anyways, I just, the, the deaths and like that it was the one thing it was missing though. And Hallmark was kind of doing it at first and then he switches, but you needed the lovable guy on the outside, like die hard with the, uh, the, is it family matters? The family? Oh yeah. Carl, captain Carl Winslow. We needed it. We need a, we needed a captain Carl outside instead of fucking double agent hallmark. Reginald Val Johnson, right? Yeah, I think so. That's it. Sean has to name it, isn't it?

Sean has to name his first kid because he lost a bet with Gus. So his first kid, Reginald Val Johnson. I think that's what it is. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, that's the only thing it was missing. Yeah. I've just been to Specsavers and upgraded my lenses to extra thin in light with 50% off. Now, what else can I upgrade? My cat? Meow!

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Visit your Toronto area Ford store or Ford.ca today. Speaking of, what was his name? Hallmark. Jean Claude. Okay. Two, two Jean Claude weapon takes, because we got to talk about two Jean Claude weapons, grabs the super soaker from his kid, fills it up with gas, takes out like the death scene from Hallmark is

him using the lighter and spraying the super soaker filled with gas. Well, he does. And turning hallmark. It doesn't die for that though. He pops up a couple of minutes later, all burnt to a fucking crisp. And then that, then how does he kill him there? I thought he died in the, um, in the fire. No, because then John, uh, JCVD, uh, like walks away and like five minutes later, he like, the dude pops up again and he's all fucking burnt.

Oh, I thought he died there. No, cause that, cause he even says, I hope you were nice to hallmark. And it was like, oh no, he lit him on fire. When he was talking to him on, I thought that was fantastic. Him, him using that. And then the other one, he rigs up like something in his sleeve, using the fire extinguisher.

Did you notice that? And he puts his hand up and it like, like shoots the guy through the neck. He MacGyver something somehow, but I did not. It was like a pen or something. Yeah, and he like spring loaded it using a fire extinguisher. That death scene I watched a couple of times

because I couldn't figure out like how he rigged it up and like where, because like, where is, where is like the energy coming from for him to shoot it out? Like, is it coming from the fire extinguisher? But like, is it like the way he had the tube, it tubed, it just didn't, I don't know. It just, I didn't see. Fire extinguishers are powerful.

You've been sprayed with one. I know, but like, how's he going to be able to capture the, anyways, it doesn't matter. I just, it took me, I kind of got, I, I Brandon that a little bit. I just, I really got stuck on how he got that contraption to not only work, but then to be able to time it and shoot it out to get someone right in the neck. Yeah. So I'm looking at, um, the, the, some movie facts here the the Foss Foss who's like

the main the main bad guy. Yeah, the people in his game. He's got a dude named wooden. He's got a dude named Briggs. He's got a dude named Joey. A dude named Cloner. And then a dude named bluto. That's his crew What a fucking crew that is an insane crew No, and a and a brody he's got a brody in there too

Fun fact it would do you see it was filmed during the NHL lockout? 94, 95. Yep. Blackhawks, penguins, stand the cup. I was really hoping for your younger cameo. We did not get one though. I could not believe that they're, they dared have the penguins on there and no Yami or Yager in the nineties. They probably could, I don't think they could afford him though,

because I just found another fun fact where it said while shooting inside the arena, um, some sections were cardboard cutouts because the production didn't have enough money to pay any more extra. Did they, uh, that's common. They did have a bunch of, uh, like we mentioned, Luke Robitaille, um, Marcus Nazlind is in this movie too. Um, who else was, uh, Jay Caulfield was the dude who played, um, the goalie that he, he, so that,

Oh my God, we almost forgot. We almost forgot the most important part of the entire movie, which is Jean Claude Van Damme. We almost forgot. We almost forgot the most important part of the entire movie, which is Jean Claude Van Damme. And like, I, so the, the goalie is not feeling well and gives us the full to the Blackhawks. He has a flu. He was at 109 feet. Yeah. He has an MJ flu game. And he's like, coach, I just gave up my third goal. It's tied three, three. I got to go to the locker room. Jean Claude van Damme on the run stumbles upon the goalie who looks like he's

like literally dying on one of the training tables. Cause he steals, he steals his equipment, steals his equipment, dresses up and it decides, you know, the best place for me to hide is on the bench of the pink ones. That made no sense at all to me because we're, we're in a race to find your daughter. Here's, here's the 15 minutes that we were looking for. Brandon, we can cut this out easy.

This is the most unhinged thing that I've ever seen in a movie where you know what happened, Brandon, someone in the writer's room just did the fattest rail of cocaine that you've ever seen. And they're like, hold up before we get out of here, we got to find a way to get Jean Claude in, in hockey gear. We got to get Jean Claude in the hockey game. And it was very clearly not him in the hockey gear when he like fell down on the ice. And then he just goes up and socks a guy. So they're playing down one man. It's. Well, he does the glove save and then he hits the guy so that he can go back to

the locker room. Yeah. Why did you come out in the fucking first place? JCBD? I, I could not believe it was happening while it was happening. I was like, the whole time I was like, the coach grabs his arm. You're in, you're going back in. It was just, I couldn't believe it. I could not believe that we sat there and he was just like, Oh shit. Oh shit.

Like every time the Hawks would rush, he kept saying, stay down there. Stay down there. Oh my, I just, I could not believe that they added in as like a 10, 15 minute clip where he became the goalie and made a sale the whole time. The whole time. How I was like, are we just giving up on finding your daughter now? We, I just, there's nothing that they could have done within the movie to explain why he made

that decision. Like there's, there's, I had to rewind it. I had to rewind it twice because I was like, I don't get how he got, how we got here. Like for the, I was like logic, zero logical sense was made. Like no person with the pulse is like, you know what? I got to hide from the bad guys. The starting goalie is at a commission with the flu. Let me just grab his gear quick and hide on the bench. Like the one place where you're probably gonna get noticed right well and he leaves the poor goalie alone with the with the bad guy in the locker room it's a miracle he didn't kill him yeah yeah there's unbelievable I don't

know I I couldn't believe we got there I couldn't believe it was happening as it was happening. And when it got done, I was like, my God, this is just, this is Jean Claude in it's all of its glory. It doesn't need to fucking make sense. That's on you. He, this does not need to make sense. This is Jean Claude van Damme. Like he is getting Van Damme at Brandon. Will we get some fucking action when we get Jean Claude in this? This movie was so good.

I fucking loved every second of it. I just couldn't like the the biggest takeaway for me, honestly, that was the biggest surprise, how ruthless they allowed the bad guys to be. Like the bad guys just killing everyone without a second thought. Except for the daughter. That one I was like, what do you know?

That was weird. What was the guy's name in Snape in Die Hard? What was no, um, what was, what was, what's the guy's name in, um, Snape in diehard. What was it? Alan Rickman. No, I know not what's the, what's his character's name in diehard? Hans Gruber, right? Hans Gruber.

Yes, dude. He's no, the bad guy was no Hans Gruber, but Hans Gruber wasn't quite as ruthless as this. I feel like, you know, like he wasn't just kill executing the mayor and his wife for not getting the funds quick enough. Yeah. I still, I, I might have to do a rewatch to figure out what's going on with those funds because the way he had the way he described it, it didn't really make any

sense because that he's like, cause they said something about weight. any sense because that he's like, cause they said something about, wait, so the 1.2 billion was just a distraction. And cause he was talking about like some of it, like, we'll get funneled through untraced. And so like they don't want the big, I don't know. It didn't make sense. I just kind of moved on. Did you see, uh, one thing I did love is it's like, I think it was after, it was definitely after he killed the mayor's wife, maybe after the mayor too.

And it pans to the dude, his like right hand man that's on the computer. Um, and the dude was playing a, like a first person shooter video game on the computer while they're waiting. I didn't see that. It looked like doom. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah. It looked like it looked like doom. Yeah. Um, cause I was like, that was like the first first person shooter. I feel like I love that though, where he's just like, I mean, you're not doing it. Yeah. I gotta wait for the end of the period. Might as well.

Yeah. Yeah. So get some dome and dude, I, the, the, his son refusing to leave the seat for the CIA agent. Love that. Yeah. That was great. That was that whole interaction was good. Yeah.

He finally learned his lesson. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I thought it was great. I, I, I'm with you, Brandon. I thought like it was exactly what I thought it was going to be. 1995 Jean-Claude Van Damme diehard meets NHL game seven meets Jean-Claude instead of Bruce Willis, right? And it's, it delivered all of that.

And the bad guys were better than I thought. Wow. I didn't fully understand the purpose and like why the money and why the vice president, like they didn't do a good job with that. They did do a good job with their infiltration. They did a great job with like the execution around the infiltration and the ruthlessness at which they wanted to, you know, like he was not messing around. Like he was going to get what he wanted and he was going to kill anyone he had

to, to get what he wanted. I just didn't understand the why, you know, they never really dug into the why they kind of like loosely tiptoed around it. He has a line. Um, when he first gets in there and, you know, kidnaps everybody, he has a line where they're like, why are you doing this? And it's a, it's a bullshit line where he's just lying. Yeah. Um, but one of the, one of the reasons he says in that line is no more mini malls. Oh, that's his dream came true. Brandon malls are going extinct.

So big malls are many malls are still out there though. I guess those are more strip malls. Does that count as a mini mall? No. What's the difference between a mini mall and a strip mall? Mini malls are just miniature versions of real malls. Strip malls are where strippers go. I don't, I don't think that's right on any account, but you know, you, you, you would say you about anything, Brandon. I mean, you are known to not like women. So I think you would know a lot about you're literally going to get me fired from work. If you keep making stuff up like this, that's going to get, that's going to get aggregated by our tens of listeners or Kelly's

going to listen to it and be like, Keith, you know, I was always worried. And I think Brandon calls this is, you're just the worst Brandon. Unlike this movie, you're the worst. This movie was not the worst. This movie was actually kind of awesome. I still think you're wrong about many miles of strip malls. That didn't make any sense. No, I'm of course, that didn't make sense. I literally said the most nonsensical thing I could think of at that moment in

time. Believe you're unbelievable. I, you are doing better with your choices in movies recently though. Excuse you. Now then we've, I've been crushing it since day one. Whenever you TSF with the fucking game changers actors and one of their movies, that's when things start to go awry. Well, and I just I don't know what your problem is with that, but you got to get over it.

You got to get game changers. You got to hit them all, man. We gotta hit them all. You gotta hit them up like Tupac. Gotta hit them low like monsters. Right? I hit them high, hit them high, hit them high. You hit them low, hit them low, hit them low. Anyways, Brandon, what are your, what should we do? Rainings? I mean, I guess, I don't know. I guess there wasn't a 10 to talk about with the movie. It was good.

Those were, I talked through my highlights, you know, I talked to mine. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Fantastic movie. I loved every, every single second of it. Yep. Just worth, worth the John Claude van damming, you know, you can't go, I mean, John Claude van Damme is a, is a, is a national treasure.

Yeah. I feel like you could go on like to be or something. And is that the one that just has like randomly has random channels? I feel like if you can, that's one of them, there's like Pluto or is that, but it's both. It's both. Just do a Jean Claude Van Damme channel. That that would be that'd be a nice way to spend an afternoon. Like nothing wrong with that. Spending an afternoon on a Jean Claude Van Damme's movie channel.

Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Thank you, Luke Robitailleille for being in this movie. Yeah No, okay. Yeah, let's get two cake ease. It is with your cakey. He's my cakey. I'm gonna go 3.28 What yeah Double decimal double desks again. Yeah,2, that seems low. That seems low. Really, you think so? I mean, this movie was awesome, but it wasn't great.

You know? That seems real though. There was some moments in time where I did kind of struggle with getting through parts of it, but I enjoyed it. All like, it was exactly what I wanted it to be. Middle of the road, 90s action movie. You know, it's no street fighter, but it's up there.

Okay. Yeah. I'm, uh, this, this is now my second favorite John Claude Van Damme movie. Actually, I'm gonna say third. It's my third favorite time. Cops number one, blood sports number number two and then sudden death number three I'm gonna give it a three point seven five. Wow, that's really high for you It's again, it's it's accurate. He's uh, you know, is it because you relate with the bad guy being sociopath? No, I feel like you probably would have gave it a higher rating if you didn't hate women mascots so much.

You are the absolute worst. That's that's why I bumped it up a little bit because of how much I liked. I see pre pre murder. That was a try. I was iceberg. That's what I said. I see getting the iceberg. I see getting killed is a travesty. You didn't seem very broken up about it. I was Brandon. I was shook.

Shooketh. I don't be shooketh 3.75. 3.75. That's a good rating for me. I get down. It's good. It's a good like TNT needs to get to needs to do a Jean Claude day. That's for sure. Or AMC AMC. Do you want to Jean Claude day? Yeah, that would fit.

That would make sense. No, what the, what TNT needs to do is, uh, you either got to play this before or after some NHL playoffs. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. That blackhawks and penguins game is pretty good. You know, went into overtime. They never did free. They never finished the game. No. I wonder, uh, I wonder how they handled that. Do you play game seven? Do you redo game seven in Chicago in like a week? I don't know. That's tough, right? Because if you're the penguins,

you feel like you would miss out on the home court advantage in overtime. Yeah. But I mean your arena probably not ready to go. It's good. You had a helicopter. no, no, you had a helicopter and then you had several bombs go off. That's, that's, that's true. I didn't, I didn't think about stadium structural damage, but like we're, we're in for, you know, like using the university's Penn State's hockey rink. That's traveling to Philadelphia and using the flyers. That's true. You could do neutral site. Yeah, because the penguins are at a neutral site for the next season while they're trying to either decide if they want to fix or bulldoze the arena and start over again. That's true.

You know, you can't, this was like, you're not crashing in a helicopter in that arena and just cleaning it up. You know, like that's, that's taking some time. Yeah. Yeah. The igloo is that a commission for a bit? Yeah. Um, this was right before, um, I think the igloo lasted a couple, like a handful more years after this. And then there was a whole, like late nineties, early two thousands, there was a whole, uh, stadium debacle with them and the city of Pittsburgh, where they were trying to get a new arena built, they threatened to move to Kansas city.

Ooh, that's a good threat. Yeah. But they ended up getting the arena built. So imagine, imagine some of the penguins, Kansas city penguins. Yeah. I would, I would hope so. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine Sydney Cosby, Kansas city penguin. Nice. I want Omaha to get a hockey team.

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I'm just saying right now at this moment in time, Brandon Omaha's ready. I don't think that's true. It's true. It's 1000% true. I don't think so. You know, who's getting, you know, who's getting teams, Houston and Atlanta. I know it like Atlanta. Atlanta is the least deserving city of a hockey team. Third time's the charm, I guess. Right. They are from what I've heard though. Houston, 1000%. Like the arrows, the only reason the arrows stopped working is because

you can't be a minor league team in a major league city. Like sharing your arena with the Rockets as a minor league team, just, it just never worked. Well, that's why, that's why they left is because the Rockets wouldn't let them share it anymore. Yeah. Well, they were charging the amount of rent that was paid. It was, you're still going to run into that problem as a protein though. In fact, I'll probably charge you more. You wouldn't get it, Brandon. I don't think he, I mean, I'm not mad at Houston,

but Atlanta absolutely should not have a hockey team. From what I've gathered, they're going to build the arena. They're going to do what the Braves did, and they're going to build the arena as far away from the city of Atlanta as they can to avoid the riffraff, as they call it. Have you ever looked into the Atlanta Braves stadium, the new stadium? Yeah. If you ever want a great example of like government, gerrymandering and just blatant racism, um, in the south,

look at how that stadium got built, where it's built. Nice. And the fact that they refuse and continue to block any public transportation that goes to the stadium, they don't want any of it. And so they're going to, they're going to do the same thing with the hockey arena. I think they're going to build it in, uh, um, like close to Duluth. Jesus. So like North, Northeast way Northeast of the city. Um,

so I don't know, I don't know Either way, I don't know how I don't know how well he you've seen they're gonna it's all gonna depend on what they can swindle as far as an arena deal for Houston I Anyways, I'm just I think Omaha would do great. You could have had, I mean, we could have had the Kansas city penguins, but Casey would be a great place to honestly, they always get overlooked. Yeah. Um, I don't think there's, I don't think there's a strong ownership group to help the Kims. You see him with Omaha. Nobody's

any more. And you just think with Omaha. Nobody's any Warren. You weren't, you just think you have a shit about hockey. That's the problem. You gotta talk to your boy. Do you Warren, let's get a pro team in, in Omaha. Look at the supernovas. They're super calm. The buffets, the Omaha buffets.

Yeah, come on. You could just have like have a steak as your mascot. Yeah. Or Omaha steaks or jump in on that in two seconds. Anyways. All right. Do you have anything else to say about this awesome movie? Once again, you know, this is, this is another one, Brandon.

You did a great job. You know, it's, I feel very fortunate that we were able to, you know, watch this, this wonderful Jean Claude Van Damme. It's up there with roller ball, you know, like that's where, what did I rate roller ball? I should have rated this one the same as roller ball. You gave roller ball a three one five. So about a little higher. You give this one a little higher okay that's good that's good

that i feel like that's kind of all right that's why i was going off of roller ball and turbulence the first one i hated as you loved turbulence one of the first one was good first one was good turbulence too was a pile of shit sorry oh yeah but uh well the first one was fucking gold, but that's, that's, that's what I was looking for. As far as that, um, I read, you know, it's like, it's, it's in that, that category, that, that tier. Yep. Um, Hey, Jean-Claude Van Damme, dude, national treasure. Yep. You know, treasure, American, American hero goalie to the stars.

Yeah. Yeah. If you, if you, hero, goalie to the stars. Yeah. Yeah. If you are deciding whether or not to watch it, just remember that Jean-Claude Van Damme saves a goal. Glove save. Glove save and a beauty in game seven of the Stanley cup for the Pittsburgh penguins. And if, and if that doesn't answer whether you should watch this movie or not,

we might not be friends. Yeah. That is really the only way you can describe any and all John Claude Van Damme movies endeavors him as endeavors, him as a person, just a beauty, just a beauty, just a beauty. All right. Well, anyways, that's all I have to say about this. You don't want to bash women mascots one more time before you leave? No, Brandon. I want to praise both of them. I thought that Julie did a great job and I thought the lady that murdered her would have done a great job if she wasn't so busy doing murder So you