The Cake Eaters - 113. Dawson's Creek Season 2: Episodes 1-5

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

We are coming back to the Creek! Time for the boys to tackle Season 2 of Dawson's Creek, starting with episodes 1-5. Heath and Brandon talk through each episode, sad boy country music, dead moms, ...new haircuts, Brandon's birthday, and all the new characters that join the show in season 2.Follow us on Instagram @thecakeeaterspodEmail us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's not worth winning if you can't win! My heart is in my hands. My head is in the clouds. My feet have left the ground. My life is turning around and round. And oh wait, hold on. I can't remember how the second rhythm goes, but you get the gist. I believe there's a key change right there too. Oh, wait, hold on. I can't remember how the second rhythm goes, but you get the gist. I believe there's a key change right there too.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah, it's like, and every voice inside my head is telling me to run like mad. Oh, bows and arrows, stars and sunsets. Say bows and arrows? I meant to say bows, Brandon. That's a good, good addition though. It's not as good as the, the, you know, the original one is just so iconic. It really is. But I was kind of getting into this, you know, like I was kind of feeling it. My heart is in my hands.
Starting point is 00:01:21 It's as good of a replacement one as they could have done. Yeah. Cause they, it's like custom, right? Cause it is. I thought they made it specifically for it. I can't remember. I feel like we talked about it in the first one. So we're going to sound like idiots not knowing it. I don't remember what we spoke about. Yeah. What, one of the two, we have, this is we should do research, we have to do some research beforehand, but one of the two, one of the two was written specifically for it and the other one wasn't I forget which one it is though
Starting point is 00:01:47 This one was it's only like two bars But it's it was really catchy it's no I really was pregame hard Just good advice. That's why I wasn't logging on right away. Brandon, the, the morning playlist was going hard. You know, I was, I was really, uh, I mean, it had everything too. It was the real Testament to an ADHD mind, uh, putting together a playlist going from goofy movie to dude.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I've really been into that one Zack top song I never lie, right? You know, I'm saying Zack top isn't the same the fuck is that top there's too many though there's a Zack top sleep like a baby I Never show a late for work. Oh, this is a new country. I don't pay attention. I don't drink whiskey.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I like him because he, you know what he's doing, Brandon? You know what Zach top's doing single-handedly? What? Bringing back cigarettes. Okay. Dude, full, full endorsement. Is he a, I'll give him a listen cause I am, I have fully transitioned. Oh, he's in Telluride next week.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Oh no way. That's going to be a great shot. But yeah, Brandon, there's, but I've, I've fully transitioned, uh, from, uh, and it's, it's, uh, it's a very common pipeline I've noticed, which is, uh, 90s emo kid into, uh, mid thirties sad boy country music. No shit. I mean, I guess that makes sense. See the problems that they sing about, you know, your, your problems.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Very similar. Yeah. Very similar things though. Very similar. Yeah, you do. It's similar, similar sadness, but just different concepts in yes feeling sad about you know Yeah, but you know I'm all like Tyler Childers Culture wall culture culture wall for sure
Starting point is 00:03:56 Dabble in Zach Brian a little bit all of his all of his songs sound exactly the same So if you've listened to one Zach Brian song you've've listened to them all. But there's some people that- I just like that one album a lot. And I can't remember what the album is. It's the one that like he really blew up on and I got it on vinyl. And that's my favorite thing. You know, you just, you know, put, you know, you just fire it up and then you fire it up
Starting point is 00:04:19 and then it's you're jamming, Brandon. I spent like five Zach Brian songs and I've noticed all of them, well not all of them, but the vast majority of them have colors in their names. So if you come across a Zach Brian song that has a color in its name, you're in for a treat.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Like something in the orange, pink skies, you're in for a treat. Really good songs, you're right, you're right. But yeah, but those are the- Send To Me is an underrated one. It's one of his early ones. That's a good one too. Um, yeah. Sad boy country. I'm in my sad boy country era. Love that dude. Coulter wall has a song called froy line. Love it. I'm all in on it. He's with who sings it with him.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Some other country guy is in there with the tire. Tyler Childress or something like that. Tyler Childress. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was doing tire Tyler Childress or something like that. I like shoulders. Yeah Do Tyler Childress is the fucking best? I was thinking Childress. That's a NASCAR Yeah and also old Vikings said coach grandchildren All right Brandon. Let's get back to Dawson's Creek because for the love of Pete
Starting point is 00:05:23 I'm For the second season in a row. the love of Pete, I'm for the second season in a row. I'm not just in, I'm all in, I'm bought in. This might be my new favorite show. I went to Bend and I had Dawson's Creek dreams again because I'm so incredibly bought in to this show. They do not hold back. Like they just,
Starting point is 00:05:46 like they're like, you know what, let's just go for it. Let's just, let's just fucking go for it and, and create this absurdly awesome teen drama and just nothing is off limits. Nothing is too far. Statutory rape, double down. You got it. Done. You know, like when I saw tomorrow returns, I almost fell out of my chair. I was like, you got to be shitting me. And then when we went dock worker guy, we'll get into it, Brandon. But my Lord, I could not believe it. I was like, son of a bitch. They're just, they're going for it. While a great lesson was learned
Starting point is 00:06:26 for the 16 year old girls out there, right? Like it's a great lesson. I also, I feel bad cause I'm not one to comment on hair, but my God, Michelle Williams, I feel like- Oh, rough, rough haircut. Holy shit. I feel like part of the reason she's so depressed
Starting point is 00:06:43 to kick off this season is because of that haircut. Yeah. You know, like that haircut, whoever sat her down in that chair should be ashamed of themselves. Like that, I feel terrible for her. Every time she's in a scene, I'm like, son of a bitch. I just hate, I just hate the way your hair looks, you know, it's just, I just hate the way it looks. Like either just, I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know what you call that haircut.
Starting point is 00:07:08 That was a very nineties thing though. Cause I remember last, I remember, I was remembering back to friends. There's like one, at least, at least one season, maybe two seasons where Monica has just the worst haircut ever. And it, you know, that's a nins thing where every once in a while you just got a bad haircut, you know, and you, you gotta own it. Speaking of haircuts, then they're been there, right? Like I was, I was the bowl cut connoisseur of Wayne America for too long, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So I get it. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to say speaking of haircuts though. You want to know a fun fact? Uh, you know how they, uh, they frosted his tips for like two seconds? Do you know why? No, no I don't, but I love frosted tips more than anything in the history of the world. And my God, Brandon, like, that's why I was so bought in. Literally we kicked off season two
Starting point is 00:08:00 with the frosting of the tips, two bros, going to the salon, frosting tips, son of a bitch, Brandon, we need to bring back this stuff. It was too good. I mean, he looked like a clown. Like he looked like an idiot. Like I've never seen someone look dumber than Pace who those frosted tips was set.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I loved it. I love every, sorry. I just, I got too excited about the frosted tips, dude. It was so awesome. Like when they sat down, I was like, where are we going? Where are we going with this? And then Pacey's like, maybe I'll just frost my tips like you Dawson. I'm like, yes. And sorry, fun fact.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I used to get so mad Brandon because something with like the chemicals in the pool and Wayne America. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I would go, and I spent every day at the pool in the summer. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I would go, and I spent every day at the pool in the summer and my hair would like bleach out on the top, but it would stay brown on the bottom and everyone be like, he's my God, you did such a good job dyeing your hair, dude did it.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And I'd be like, the sun, the sun dyed my hair. Yeah. Sorry. That was a long tangent. That would happen to my sister. During the end of the summer, we'd go to the pool a bunch and she had a, when she was born, she had like real dark, dark, actually she had like, like, like real dark blonde. And now it's gotten darker, she's gotten older. But when we go to the summer, when we go to the pool in the summer, her, yeah, the yeah, it was the chemicals in the sun. She like, we would go to the summer, when we go to the pool in the summer, her, yeah, the chemicals in the sun, she like, we would go bleach is it almost?
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She would have like bleach blonde hair in like two weeks. Yeah, yeah, dude. Cause mine, mine wasn't like that. Mine would revert back. Like I started out with like white blonde hair, curly blonde hair, and it would revert back to its original state every summer. But anyways, all right. So you, do you want to know my fun fact that you never let me
Starting point is 00:09:51 say? Oh, shit. Sorry, Brandon. I got too excited about those frosted tips. The fun fact is about the frosted tips. Oh, my God. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's just, God, they're so good. Okay. Go. Fun fact, frosted tips. Go, Brandon. The reason they did that is because he's filming Cruel Intentions right now as well. Oh, duh. I should have put that together. I should have. I should have put that together because then he unfrosts the tips and it looks a little red. Well, yeah. Yeah. So he, they, well, because in Cruel Int he has, um, like bleach, bleach blonde hair. And so he, he felt he felt filmed cruel intentions before they, uh, they, he,
Starting point is 00:10:33 they came back and they wrapped up finishing season two. So that's why it's like gradually like it's, it's already faded a little bit when they, when he has like the frosted tips and then it gets, it gets, yeah. I mean, that's, you know, you know how hair dye works. You can always, you never end up with exactly the same shade you started with. And going, going blonde to dark, there's always a risk. Yep. So there's always that risk. It's going to go red. Um,
Starting point is 00:10:59 but episode one, Brandon, we are dealing with the fallout of the kiss. They are navigating the first kiss long anticipated, but it's really funny too, because they did a great interpretation of two teenagers that have been best friends their whole life, have their first kiss, the awkward tension, the, what the fuck do we do now? That this has finally happened. The Joey's always Joey calls it out later. And I thought she did such a good job saying this of like,
Starting point is 00:11:36 I've always been your sidekick. Like I've always been your, like your plus one or whatever, but now we're together. You've always been like my everything, but like now we can't, like you, I don't want it to continue to be what it always was. If I was just like spit, you know, cracking wise about some movies and stuff. Yeah. Joey wants more. Yeah. The, the, this scene was infuriating where they're like,
Starting point is 00:12:07 they're like almost goading the other person into saying they don't want to do it. And then they get mad at him for it. And it's like, oh my fucking God. Well, it goes like Dawson, of course is going to be like, try to turn it into a movie, right? Like that's it. That's what I feel like.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's like, dude, this isn't a movie. Calm down. Like it's, I don't know, but it was. It was interesting. And then poor Jen is dealing with dead grandpa grief. And then she realizes that Joey, she sees Joey and Dawson make it. She sees the first kiss throw down from her window. So she's dumped. We got a grieving. She's got a bad haircut. Like poor Jen. We gotta wrap up these windows here guys.
Starting point is 00:12:50 We gotta, you know. Has anybody heard of fucking curtains or blinds dude? Like what is going on? This is a fight. I mean, could be some exhibitionists Brandon, you know? Like that's very Jenkins of them, you know? Okay. You don't think Jenkins is an exhibitionist, Brandon?
Starting point is 00:13:12 I'd rather not go down that road. Yeah, pull the curtain shut. Just once. One fucking time. Like, you know, when you invite a creepy dock worker over to your grandma's house, close the curtains. Oh my God. We'll get to, we, well, we got to delve deeper into Abby and Jen once that like goes down a little bit later. But Abby, dude. So I did feel bad for Jen because she was like, it got a little desperate,
Starting point is 00:13:45 right? When she was trying to like plus one them, when she just shows up to the theater. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was, that was one of those moments where, when I said, Oh no, I exclaimed it out loud when she showed up. It was, I was not expecting that. I exclaimed it out loud when she showed up. I was, I was not expecting that.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And then her sitting there sat in the back of the theater when her grandma walks by, well, hey there kiddo. Oh man, poor Jen, you know, so she, Jen is feeling down and my God, the haircut is not helping. She's, she's roughen it or fucking Jen, man. Oh my God. I feel terrible for her. And then, and then we get introduced to a new character, Brandon, a new potential love interest for Pacey Andy McPhee.
Starting point is 00:14:36 At first, you know how I am with names. I'm like the fourth episode. I was like, dude, is he making a nanny McPhee joke? Like, I don't, I don't know what's going on here. And then I was like, Oh my God, that was, that's her last name. He's an idiot. Yeah. It just took me a second to get back, but it's, you know, we're, we're kind of a, you know, it's, it's, she comes in and they do the story of like, she's very, she obviously hates him because he is kind of flirting her with her, but not they're just doing young people flirting.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Because Pacey sucks. That's why. Well, I know dude, come on. Pacey's awesome. Dawson sucks. I like Pacey, but everybody in this town hates Pacey. I know. I mean, poor Pacey. You know, when Dawson is the biggest douche of them all and everybody hates Pacey. I don't get it. Yeah. Pacey. Yeah. Well, and then he does the, I feel whatever said it, it is, but he does the whole, uh, this is where Pacey pretends to be the cop with him.
Starting point is 00:15:34 He does. I think it's, I think it's an episode three when him and Andy are like fighting over, uh, who had it the hardest. And he's talking about how he's the black sheep of his family and And he's, he's never going to be able to overcome that. Everybody in the show is constantly the victim and it's exhausting. They'd fit in well today's modern age, right? What do you, what do you think about Andy? Was I this bad as a teenager? Oh my God. Yes. Oh my God. Come on, dude. I was reflecting on that today. I was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:06 I was so naive and self-absorbed. I was naive and self-absorbed, but I, I, I would like, I gotta, I guess I gotta ask you, I would like to assume that I was not fucking Mr. pity party. Like all these kids are, you know, I think that there's like a certain sense to all teens where they feel like the world is out to get them, right? Like I feel like we all-
Starting point is 00:16:31 This is like- This they- It's a show obviously. I was just gonna say like Brandon, you fucking moron. It's a dramatized teen show on the CW. What do you think? They're gonna take it to the 10th degree. I can see the TikTok comments now. You know it's a show, right?
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. Yeah. What's the what's the what's the the nerd dude's name? It's probably divorce sitting sad in his basement. And he always comments. It's like, it's like a regular comment. Yeah, there's I mean, it's only maybe only like two or three times. Just to show just to show. All right. I don't remember that one. Obviously you don't get the stick fuckface Obvious and you know what I did love I did love all I did love all of those ones on the the Louise clip Hey people fucking that that was the whole thing was that you know, it's a movie, right? It's not real life. Louise isn't real But if he was but if he if he was slow as fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. And everyone else can just shut up. This is what happened when you give stupid people platforms, Brandon, when you give a mouse a cookie, man. I use that a lot actually. Um, but Andy, what do you think about Andy? I kind of like Andy. I love Andy. Yeah, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I feel like they need her. She's like a head on her shoulders, type A. She's gotta get shit done. She's had to step up. So I agree, she's a type A, she's gotta get shit done, but I have in my notes that she's fucking dumb as rocks. She's, she's, she's a type A, she gets it done. But I have in my notes that she's fucking dumb as rocks. She's naive. No, she's, she's dumb as rocks. When, when, when she walks into economics class and the teacher asks her what's the difference between macro and micro,
Starting point is 00:18:19 and she can't think of anything to say. Dumb as rocks. Brandon, you should be able to lie your way through the difference between micro and macro. It's big and little. That's all you got to say. Big and little and the teacher would have been like, okay, close enough. Brandon, first day of the fucking class. Listen, normally as the first day of the fucking class, normally
Starting point is 00:18:43 as the AI designated hater of this podcast, I would agree with you. She's got zero improv skills is what I'm saying. Dumb as rocks. Normally as the AI confirmed hater of this podcast, I would agree with you. But this time I think we should empathize. New girl, nervous, put on the spot. Pacey is in her head at the moment. Right. And she panicked just completely clams up. Pacey should be in her head at the moment.
Starting point is 00:19:18 She already got back at him. Dude, remember she told, she told everybody he was dying. Brandon. Oh my God. That was awesome. That was, and she made up the told everybody he was dying. Brandon. Oh my God, that was awesome. That was, and she made up the disease. That was fantastic. That's all I'm saying is she, people clam up.
Starting point is 00:19:32 You gotta be nice. So it doesn't mean she's dumb. You need to be able to at least fudge your way through the difference between micro and macro. It's big and little. It's all you gotta say. Listen, Brandon, maybe she needed this learning moment so that she will be more prepared and
Starting point is 00:19:45 on her toes in the future to be able to respond to things. I guarantee you if I asked Flapjack what the difference between micro and macro was, he'd be able to fudge his way through it. Brandon, you completely underestimate the stupidity of teenagers. They're learning this world world navigating through puberty. It's you wouldn't get it. It's most micro versus macro. Like come on like use use a little bit of deductive reason.
Starting point is 00:20:16 He's just some improv skills. It's all doesn't mean she's dumb though is what I'm saying doesn't mean she's dumb dumb as rocks. Oh my. Doesn't mean she's dumb. Dumb as rocks. Oh my gosh. Dumb as rocks. You know what? Just you say potato, I say tomato, I guess. I guess that's how that goes.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Anyways, episode one, the kiss, the fallout. I loved it. Hook, line, and sinker. I was so fucking in-brain. And what else do you have to say about episode one? After they're doing the whole, we shouldn't have done this thing. Then it goes to the, the frosted tip scene where they're,
Starting point is 00:20:52 you know, explaining it. Dawson's explaining it to Pacey. And then Joe's talking to her sister about it. And I want to point out two things. Yeah. All three things. One, they're getting their, their haircut. They're getting their haircut together,
Starting point is 00:21:04 which is a wild, wild thing. That used to be a thing. Like the old ladies all sitting under the old ladies, not teenage boys. When have you ever gotten a haircut alongside another man? Like in a coordinated effort, obviously you go to a barber shop and there's another guy sitting in the chair next to you, but you, you know, when's the last time you coordinated a barber trip? I've never done it. Not once in my life.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I guess you're right. Yeah. But anyway, but, and then also the other thing I want to point out is what I was trying to think of there's like a bachelor party or a wedding, you know, if we do like a trim or a shave or something, you wouldn't do it all together and you do that before you show up on Bob on your own. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I just usually, I mean, it's definitely like an old, it's an old lady thing.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It was an old lady thing. Maybe an old man thing like once it's an old person thing, I guess. Yeah, I've never had a yeah, two teenage boys are not going to go for, well, I guess if they're taking a risk to frost tips, they're going to go together potentially. I can see. I think that was, that was a, I think that was a game time decision. I don't think they planned that. Oh, that's true. But I also wanted to point out during the whole process of PC getting his
Starting point is 00:22:21 haircut, he is moving around like crazy. That poor lady that was cutting his hair. I'm surprised she didn't like fucking like grab his head like stay still, dude. And then did I had the best haircut ever. The lady brought her dog and the whole weight just played fetch. A dog. The dog was like, my God, a sucker has walked in. I've definitely it ran up to me and was just like, let's go. And it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I definitely talked about this on the podcast before, but when I was living in Seattle, the barbershop I went to that I lived right by, it was two like 30 year old dudes that owned it. And each of them had the the the sickest bulldog. And they would just run around the shop the whole time. It was amazing. But. What else was I going to say?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Oh, the conversations they're having, I got to talk about to you. Pacey asks a Dawson if she took if she touched his thingamajig. Which is why even for a teenage boy, wild choice of words. No, I've think I'm a jig before What you might call it? I've never I've never referred to to to to my my penis as a thing of a jigger or what you might call it I referred to other things as a what you might call it McCall it. I referred to other things as a what you McCall it. Twig and berries, what you McCall it. Twig and berries, that's like a thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Think of a drink. Yeah. And then the other thing I loved is her sister, Joe's sister. She's all, why the fuck are you happy? You're never happy. That's uncomfortable conversation. It was hilarious that she called her out. Well, it happens a couple of times in these first five episodes where people are just like, Joe, why are you angry all the time?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Which is I love because she's so angry all the fucking time. Yes. Yes. It's Andy's brother calls her out on it. Like, why are you so mad? This is not that bad. I love that. I love that conversation because he's like, why are you so mad? And she's like, well, it's a full moon.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And he goes, no, like all the time. So good. It's such a good line. Man, what has some incredible fallout from the kiss, though. It was it was fantastic. She turns down France. We have about that. That's what I forgot that she turned down France. Like, yeah, wild decision.
Starting point is 00:24:55 For three, three months. I just, I was so annoyed with it. Brandon. I just like literally after the first episode, my brain was like, you know what? I'm just going to move on from that because it's so stupid. Like it's, it's, they, they just, I mean, technically she couldn't go because the show, unless they would have like written the second season after she got back from France, right? Like, you know, yeah, yeah. So she couldn't have gone, but just straight up turning it down for Dawson.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yikes. Yeah, yeah. Show wise, it makes perfect sense. But as if we're coming at this as if she's a real person piece, like we like I'm going to she's dumb, dummy, dumbest person in the world. Like go to France. You'd go three months. Yeah, three months.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That's nothing. No, my God. That's a drop of a pan. You'd go three months. Yeah, that's nothing Nothing my god That's a drop of a pan. Anyways, yeah that that was annoying. I also have in my notes. Jesus christ joey and that's referring to um, I afraid exactly when in this episode, but When she when they're there she heard dosner talking and she's like what if, she's just, she's just starts doing that thing where she's like, what if we just boned right now? Uh, you know, you know what I'm talking about? I figured exactly what she says, but she's just, she like, take,
Starting point is 00:26:14 they're like talking about like the next kiss or, you know, whatever. And she's like, uh, she's immediately goes to, let's go get a hotel room and fucking bone. And I was, she's obviously joking, but it's like, goddamn Joe, Joe, real it in. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, Joey is nothing but a, you know, loose cannon. That's wildcard. I think that's what we called her last time. It was wildcard. She is absolutely wildcard. Yeah. Yeah. Like remember when she just like random it's like, are you a virgin? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah. Like remember when she just like randomly was like, are you a virgin? Yeah. What? You're walking down the street, going to the movie. That wasn't even... You just met this girl. Yeah. You don't know me. Anyways, anything else on episode one? Otherwise we should swing into episode two because it's good too. Oh, I do want to point out, uh, so the, the, the cheerleader that, uh, Pacey's trying to, to go on a date with is Allie Larder. Remember Allie Larder?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. Yes. I, I met, yeah. Cause she, it was from the, uh, the faculty. She's from varsity blues. Yes. What movie did we do that she was in?
Starting point is 00:27:20 With Vanderbeek. Um, did we do a movie with her? Uh, oh no, I just got her confused with who we did the movie about. I thought the person in the movie was her. Okay, no, she did Varsity Blues with James Vanderbeek. She's the whipped cream bikini girl. The faculty, right? Isn't that the one that she's in with the high school teachers?
Starting point is 00:27:40 Is she in the faculty? I know she's in Final Destination. Oh, Final Destination, yep. That was a good one. What's her name? Allie Larder. Oh, you know what? She's not in faculty faculty. Who are you? Oh, damn it. Who am I thinking of? God damn it. I'm so bad at this. You know what I'm thinking of though? Here, she's in here and she is incredible and heroes. I do want to say the faculty though is a top notch fucking movie.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It is a good movie. What, what's his face is in it? That one guy with the weird face and hair, Ethan something maybe, right? You don't know if you're thinking of Josh Harden it, but you're, but you're, you're, you're the name, you're, the name you're trying to say is Ethan Hawke I'm assuming widely different people. I would have stopped. Let me just stop, dude. I'm so sorry. Oh, everyone's going to think that it's a, like a bit, you know, but I'm just an idiot. And I just, everyone is all, everyone is the same person, but different at the same time.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And I don't know how to tell them apart. But yeah, Ali Lerner, uh, final destination. I like her. Heroes. That's where I'll always love her from heroes. She crushed. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Final Destination, I like her. For City Blues. Heroes. That's where I'll always love her from Heroes.
Starting point is 00:28:48 She crushed. I just really enjoyed that show. But she has a... Oh my God. Poor Pacy. Pacy's... Andy tells her that Pacy is dying from a heart disease she made up with a strap around the heart that slowly constricting it. Oh yeah. Um,
Starting point is 00:29:12 and so, so she, and then Pacey comes up right after and it's like, Hey, do you want to go out on a date? And she's, she agrees because she thinks he's dying even though she already has a boyfriend. Yeah. And then she meets up with Pacey five week anniversary. Yeah. And, um, she, she's like talking to him and she brings it up that, oh, she told me you're dying. You have heart disease. And she has a line where she goes, it's totally cool. I get it. I understand. I suffer from asthma is what she said. from asthma is what she said. Yeah. That was a fantastic line.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah, so good. Oh, the other thing. Pacey, on the way to go ask her out, he's singing a little song. Do you remember what he's a little rhyme? No. He's singing a little rhyme while he's walking up. He does it when he's walking up to ask her out. And then I think he does it again when he's like walking up to meet her.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And he goes, I haven't written that down because it was ridiculous. It's a there once was a girl. There once was a girl with the name of Christie. The thought of her nude makes me misty. A night on the town will both go get down by the end of Christy the thought of her nude makes me misty a night on the town will both go get down by the end of the date she'll have kissed me he's fucking singing it's a stone-cold lyricist right there that's a poet yeah wow yeah I forgot there was a man from Kentucky but, that's, that's all I got for episode one.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Episode one was a, um, a good little rehash. We're right back. Uh, zero time break from season one to season two, zero time break. We're right back in it. I loved it. I love that. There's, there's got right back in. All right. So episode two, Brandon, um, much like a bone thugs in harmony, we are sitting at the crossroads. Bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone. Now tell me what you gonna do.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Pacey is struggling. I don't know. Damn it, I lost it. I had something, but it was gone. I tried. I had it and I fucked it. And that's all I can say about that, You know, it's how she goes, Brandon. Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't.
Starting point is 00:31:33 That's how she goes. For me once he. All right. But, um, when we're sitting at the crossroads, we have Dawson and Joey more drama Brandon. What do you think about this invasion of privacy? Dawson reads Joey's diary and he gets, he's a real little bitch about what she said. And, uh, I just, I never read the diary. Never read the diary. If I'm Joey,
Starting point is 00:32:04 I'm it's like, all right, dude, if you want to be the worst like that, get out of here. It's over. We're done. She has like an explanation. At the end where she's like, I didn't really, that's not really what I think is just I was having a frustrating day watching you make out with Jen. I just wrote that down. Honestly, though, his movie did suck. out with Jen. Yeah. I just wrote that down. Honestly, though, his movie did suck. His movie sucked. He sucks. Yeah. Someone's got to tell him now before he gets delusions of grandeur and goes to LA and you know, ends up you know what he he would end up as a waiter on party down the show. But but not a show about it. He would just that would just be his life. Yeah. He would just, that would just be his life. He would just be a catering waiter his whole life telling everyone about his stupid fucking scripts. I can play down.
Starting point is 00:32:51 That's a great show. It was so underrated. It is, it is because it's like right on the nose. Just, you know what I mean? Like every character is right on the nose of what you would expect them to be in that. So yeah, Party Don's really underrated. Yeah. But yeah, and Dawson is also, like, I think I said it before, he's like trying to make it into a fairy tale.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And like Joey's like, dude, you gotta, you gotta cut the shit. Yeah. Yeah. But Dawson's the worst. So that makes sense. Yeah. He's the worst throughout this episode because. Oh, and poor Pacey, dude, this is why no guy likes his birthday. Right? No one gives a shit about a dude's birthday. There's, there's nothing wrong with it. Kelly loves my birthday. Bless her heart.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I just, I tell her every time I'm like, it, you got to stop caring so much about my birthday. I was gonna, I wasn't gonna say this, this episode hit real close to home. Heath, you know why? Well, you never tell anyone your birthday. You should know. You should just know. I should just know. Kelly knows.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I think she usually tells me she's like, he's it's Brandon's birthday. I'm like, he never tells me the day I specifically don't tell people. Cause I don't, I'm not a, I'm not a birthday guy. I don't like, I don't like it. Um, but no, my, my birthday though was, uh, 18. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, he never tells me the day. I specifically don't tell people cause I don't, I'm not a, I'm not a birthday guy. I don't like, I don't like it. Um, but no, my, my birthday though was a W nine. You are an idiot. We hung out the whole night. I couldn't even buy you a beer.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. Oh my God. You're so stupid. I don't, I believe you did that. You are so dumb. Oh my God. We went out to an event on your birthday and you just, oh my God, Did Kelsey know? Oh, I doubt it. Oh yeah. I don't think I've never told her my birthday.
Starting point is 00:34:58 So we go out to an event on your birthday and hang out with multiple people, having a couple of drinks and just no one knows. Oh my God, Brandon, you are a real piece of work. It's the perfect crime. Oh my God. I, God damn it. You are the worst dude. I could not believe you did that. I'm not a birthday guy. I don't want to. I'm not a birthday guy either, but like I'm not gonna.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Anyways, you're fine. It's hilarious. Like that is incredible. Like that is incredible that you pulled that off. My God. You're sicko, dude. You're fucking sick. All right. I gotta fucking sick. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I gotta get my shit back together. I cannot believe it was like a week ago and we hung out. God, you're so tough, dude. I cannot believe that. Anyways, all right. I'm just flabbergasted. I'm flummoxed, Brandon. I'm currently flummoxed by this. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So Joey and Dawson on the rocks, no surprise that Dawson finally gets the girl of his dreams and he acts like an idiot about it. But you know, he's, to be fair, even next episode, next couple of episodes, he does have a lot going on in that household to worry about. And then we get, Yeah, that's a whole, that's a whole other thing. Dude, that's trauma for kids.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Jen, poor Jen again, spiraling. She's in the full spiral, grief, jealousy, you know, but just losing the friend group, right? Like she used to be a part of that for some. And now she just, she's on the outside looking embryonic Losing the friend group, right? Like she used to be a part of that for some and, um, now she just, she's on the outside looking embryo and that's hard. Yeah. Um, and she fucking, she, she, you know, finds herself just in the, uh, in the midst of the worst possible person in the scenario to be with Abby.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. Oh my God. She just tripped and fell into the worst kind of influence possible out of the frying pan into the fire. Wreath. Yep. Spoil divorce parents, like rich divorce parents of a spoiled child. That's you're asking for trouble there.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah. What is, is that's you're asking for trouble there. Yeah. What is, is that's a Zoloft, that's a Zoloft prescription in 10 years. Not she, uh, she probably has it now. Cause remember she stole, she has, she stole the doctor, the, the doctor. That's right. That's right. She's already loading up. She probably stole some prescription pads too, for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Oh my God. I mean, not bad idea. Getting a lot of trouble for it, though. So don't don't try it, kids. But not a bad idea. That's like the worst idea. That's like that's a that's a felony, right? It is a felony.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah, it's a it's a good idea until you get caught. Brandon, but but poor Pacy. And then this is what happens when you try to force your birthday because then he has the party and everyone's really shitty to him at his birthday party. You can learn a lot from me Heath. I don't even know how to begin to tell you how different that is. Um, but you know, that's anyways, I did enjoy the peer party though. The peer party looked sweet.
Starting point is 00:38:32 The peer party looks sweet. Um, the girl making fun of him though. The guy spilling the beer on him. I felt bad for Pacey, you know, he's shooting him with the, the, the, the water bazookas. Yeah. Oh my God. And Jen is getting hammered with Abby. Oh yeah. She's like my limit. My limit is three drinks and then I get real crazy. Okay. Yeah. And well they're drinking champagne, right? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:01 They are drinking a bottle of champagne. That's it. That's a freaking Kelly move if I've ever seen one, um, I'm pretty sure I've seen her do that at a party before too. Just that's great. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, I mean, have you met Kelly? I'm kidding. I'm kidding for all the listeners out there. Um, but no. So, and then you know, Abby dares her to kiss the next person and it's Dawson. Oh, I'm diabolical.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah, that's diabolical. Yeah, she's not coming. She's like, here comes. But that's another thing she she says she kisses us and then and then like two or three episodes later, she kisses us and again. And doesn't ever tell us, Joey, about that ever. Oh, yeah, that's true He doesn't and then what's her face tries to kiss him too abby when she's spying on maggie. Oh, yeah, that was uh,
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah Yeah Everybody's kissing everybody man to be to be to be young and in love Yeah, I mean my god dawson. He had two girls try to get at him with the massage technique. Oh yeah. I'll just, I'll just trick in the book. Let me just rub these shoulders here for you. You seem a little tense. This, this show does, uh, like you were saying, how you're all in this show gets me all in because it hits, it hits
Starting point is 00:40:27 and it hits it so hard. The nineties nostalgia factor. Oh my God. Even the, even the, like the theme song, like the intro with, when it's got like the weird little, uh, like VHS, like fuzzy tape effect going on. I'm like nine is I'm in, I'm in dude. Fantastic. And they still work at the movie store. Yeah. Oh, I'm glad that didn't go away. I'm glad that didn't go away. The movie store. That is still slice of Americana right there. Branded. But yeah, it's, it's every, every single one of the salt fracture. It's so good. Well, and, and this is where Mitch stunned me
Starting point is 00:41:08 and he's out talking with one of his boys and he says, Hey, he's known him since the fourth grade, dude, but anyone with an open marriage that suggests you should also be in an open marriage is trying to bang your wife. So, swingers baby. Then swingers, baby. Then I just, I mean, maybe it's me, but personally, I feel like if you get to the open marriage phase, probably best to just, you know, amicably,
Starting point is 00:41:40 in a different direction. I in a marriage is my personal opinion. If you don't start off that way, like, opinion. If you don't start off that way. Like if you don't start off that way and you, cause I get where he is coming. It's a terrible idea, but I get where he's coming from because he essentially is like saying, I am gonna automatically assume that you're sleeping with everybody
Starting point is 00:42:04 cause I'm an idiot and I can't get over this. So why don't we just make it completely open and be a hundred percent honest. The problem they do is they're not honest with each other. They open it up and then they don't tell each other anything. And the point of it being open is that it's open. You're telling each other, you can't have an open marriage and not talk to the person about it. And so I get where he was coming from. Cause he was, he was,
Starting point is 00:42:36 he was like, I'm going to assume you're sleeping with everybody. So just go ahead and sleep with everybody. Um, but yeah, it's a terrible idea. And he, yeah. And he, he, he handles the, he's like, I get, you got cheated on that fucking sucks, but he's gotta, he like, he got to pull yourself together either like, you can't get over it. You gotta forgive her, put your ego aside or you gotta end it. Yeah. It's, there's, those are the only two options. You can't live in between and pretend like, and hope to pretend like it never happens.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Well, well, that's the thing. I mean, in, in, in theory, you could just ignore it and pretend it never happened. He doesn't do that though. He, he wants, he like his wallowing in the, um, the sadness and it's like, dude, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta cut it loose one way or the other um, the sadness. And it's like, dude, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta cut it loose one way or the other here, man. And, and he answered his own question though, when he was suggesting this, right? Like I'll never be able to trust you again, because I'll assume that like, so that answered it, right? It's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:43:40 it's trust is gone. It's broken forever. It doesn't come back. No matter how hard you try, no matter, like, okay, it's trust is gone. It's broken forever. It doesn't come back no matter how hard you try. No matter, like, and there's a billion couples in the world that have done this, but no matter how hard it's ever going to come back, it's gone. You just gotta, if that's how you feel, then it's over. If there's an, if there's an ounce of like, you know what? I still feel like they could leave the home and I wouldn't feel betrayed every time they leave the home, then you're good. You can try and give it another crack. But if you're like, Nope, every time they leave that house,
Starting point is 00:44:09 I'm my first thought is like what's happening, what's going on. And you're going to, because that's hard on you. You're going to be living in constant fear and then you're going to take it out on everybody around you. And it's, then it's going to get bad. And then you're the asshole. so just fucking end it like you can't keep again like cheating on somebody's terrible sucks it's the worst but like you can't it's just she says it later on in like the next like episode the moon one I think when she's like she's like I've apologized like I've done like I said I'm sorry I've tried nothing else you
Starting point is 00:44:43 can say yeah it's like try to sex him, yeah, it's like, you can't keep holding, you know, one mistake over somebody that long. Like either you have to get over it one way or the other, whether you forgive them or you just cut them loose. But to just sit there and keep, keep bringing it up constantly over and over is just you're, you're ruining everybody's day here. Yeah. And she was, you know, she was trying to get him back and be like, Hey, I'm back in, I'm sorry. I stepped out and back in.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I got the Victoria secret catalog. I got trying some new stuff. Remember she said that to the, she said that to the wrong audience. Second grandma neighbor, like, yikes, know your audience. Fucking grandma neighbor. Like yikes, know your audience. Am I right? Do I? She's, do you think Graham's a secret freak? What does Graham say she's been with for like 45 years?
Starting point is 00:45:36 She went to Victoria's Secret at least once. She got married 45 years without a one trip to Victoria's Secret, you know? I suppose, I suppose. But anyways, yeah, that was, that was a wild way to end the kind of end the show there. But, oh, and then, um, this is the one where Joey and, uh, Bessie get, get, are starting to get tensions are arising in the ice house because Joey's.
Starting point is 00:45:59 We get Jack, we get introduced to Jack, Andy's brother. Yep. I like Jack. Who's played by, uh, what's his fucking name? Jack is played by, uh, Kurt, Kurt Smith also in Final Destination with Alec. Oh, fun. Um, I thought that Jack and Andy were good additions. Yes. Yeah. They're, they're good. I, I, I'm not always sold on the newcomers, but this time I, I like both of them. I like both of their characters. And I think the actors do a good job with the
Starting point is 00:46:27 characters that they play. Yeah. Yeah. They're a good little side characters and we get to, you know, as, as we explore this and it builds tension for the friend, the four, the big four, right? Like you got to bring people in there to build tension. Abby, Andy, Jack? Yeah, Jack, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I fucking hate Abby though, Abby's the worst. Well, that's she's supposed to. That's the whole point of her character is for you to not like her. I mean, Abby is the epitome of like worst case scenario friend for your teenage daughter. These are the things that I'm gonna have to worry about Brandon in the future. And I am over my skis when it comes to that.
Starting point is 00:47:09 You, you, you might, you might have an Abby. Oh, Brandon, don't put that on me. Do not put that on me. I'm just saying you gotta be vigilant. You gotta be vigilant. You got to take, you know, what you gotta do is you got gotta take a book out of the, uh, the Leary family, uh, play a page of the Leary family playbook here. Uh, sexual education all the time, constantly give them a book. No, what does he say? No hat, no glove.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah. No hat, no love. No, no, he says no hat, no gloves. Oh, I bet. I didn't have the subtitles on. Yeah, he says no hat, no glove. And she's like, no, no, no, it's no glove, no love. And he's like, yeah, you know what I mean? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:47:59 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it in, um, in fucking, uh, can't hardly wait. Can't hardly wait. A Jimmy hat, right? Yeah. Got a Jimmy hat. Oh my God. And this episode with the pairings, uh, the class pairings were fantastic.
Starting point is 00:48:19 That poor kid that got paired up with Abby, you know, just trying to, trying to do his Abby, you know, just trying to, trying to do his best, you know? And, and this is where Pacey really wins over Andy, you know, Pacey and Andy Dawson paired with Jen, Ooh, Dawson and Jen. And I love that Dawson and Jen are a rich upper-class family and they make Joey be a single mother.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Oh my God. That is so mean. Like is it, could that be considered bullying by the teacher? If he makes the only child in the class that is being raised by her single mom sister, um, be a single mom for the class project. That's fucked up. Yeah. I mean, granted they drew names, but that's, that's fucked up yeah granted they drew
Starting point is 00:49:05 names but that's that's fucked up dude like at least have them be a three-way marriage or something like Jesus Christ yeah yeah that was like this me what happened to buddy did we write buddy isn't that his name? Oh, I forgot about buddy. Was it buddy? No Right, I don't know I think uh anyone that If you are gonna have a fling with joey, it's over like it's You're you're gonna vanish off this show. I don't know what it is. No, no Not not not a fling with joey. I'm talking about the the the black dad of the of her sister the oh
Starting point is 00:49:56 Oh, that's right. I forgot about him was his name buddy now I Don't know what it is, but um We got Bessie. The fuck? This is going to be crazy. I got to free this out. Hold on. All right. Well, that's fine. While you're doing that, do some VAM. I need to talk about poor Jen again. But in Bodie, not buddy Bodie. Bodie. OK, yeah, Bodie. That's right. Oh, yeah. What happened to Bodie?
Starting point is 00:50:27 He must have left got sick of her shit. I was kidding. I guess I'm kidding But yeah, they all right. I I guess they just made the switch season one to season two. She's single mom now running the restaurant Yeah I mean towards the end, he was really only in the first couple episodes of the first and then they switch characters and then Wow, that was just that was from pilot to to the second episode which happens all the time But and then he was in like the first six or so and then kind of trailed off but still no explanation Jen's Seduction or attempted seduction of Dawson was very hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:51:15 It was rough. That was especially with the haircut. I was so uncomfortable. I was so uncomfortable. Like you said, I don't know what it is about that fucking haircut, dude. It is, I feel terrible, but my God, there was nothing seductive about her with that haircut. And, um, and I just, it was, what did it, what did the kids say? It'd be hashtag cringe.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Right? My Lord. I just, the lines weren't working. Dawson was being Dawson the whole time. So like, I mean, how do you, I just don't know how you go in there thinking it's going to work with someone like Dawson who is known to be oblivious to anything outside of his own head. So she would have had to like make it into like a movie plot and then he would have followed. Maybe the Abby is it Abby like a movie plot. And then he would have followed. Maybe the Abby is it Abby has a line where she's like, why? What's taking you so long?
Starting point is 00:52:10 Just, just walk in there and grab his dick. And that's honestly what you need to do with Austin. You just got to, it's going to walk in there. You got to grab the thing of a jig. But he would be like, Oh my gosh, Hark for why Dothine kiss me. Oh, don't ever do that again. That was, that was rough. I do that to Kelly.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Sometimes she hates it. But that's showbiz, baby. That's a very unsteasy. I have so much stease. Kelly can't handle it. I's a very unsteady. I have so much Steve's. Kelly can't handle it. I've been going back and watching real bros again.
Starting point is 00:52:52 So is it as good? I will defend to my death that the scene after the skate after his skate competition when they're in the parking lot and he's like screaming at everybody in the baby. I'm going to toast your baby bro. That's my, I, that's my favorite line of all times. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, It's a toaster baby toaster baby. Toaster oven. I'm going to toast your baby, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:29 That's, that's my, I, that's my favorite line of all times. You, you just, you look like somebody who deserves to be locked in a car with the windows rolled up so good. The funniest running bit besides the, that way doesn't, um, way doesn't smoke. Doesn't burn. Yeah. Sorry. Wait, doesn't burn is, um, the CBD lotion fixing his legs. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I don't know why, but just them making CBD lotion have like super human healing properties that tickled my funny bone like nothing before. Like I thought that shit was hilarious. When he breaks his legs and he's in the hospital, that's great too. It is like, you'll, you'll, you'll never be able to skate again. He's like, hold the plug. But he's like, starts grabbing around. It's like unplugging the TV.
Starting point is 00:54:21 The, the wakeboarding scene too. When, when is, when is the girl he brings in? He's like, Oh, the wakeboarding scene too. When, when is, when is the girl he brings in? He's like, Oh gosh, she can wakeboard. No, good. I don't need to go. Did he's a fucking right. Price is my favorite. He's the fucking best. I love, I love that show way more than I should, but it's so good. All right. All right. Um, All right. So alternative lifestyles. We got Dawson and Jen paired up. Joey is feeling the weight of class warfare.
Starting point is 00:54:54 She is one of the poor's now, even though she always has been. But she's feeling the strains of what it would be like to be a single mother. Unfairly and unjustly because her teacher hates her, I guess. Yeah. You know, that's what happens when you don't know, uh, when you don't wear a hat or a glove, you know, I guess, but she does meet that. Um, it does lead her to go, um,
Starting point is 00:55:21 interview someone that does understand what it's like to like be independent. You know, she was kind of mean to her sister about that. And this is where, this is where, oh my God, we talked about this before the show, Brandon, but that's where your sick sense of humor has infiltrated my mind. And as soon as this one, this is, this is the next episode. Let me hold off on this one, this is, this is the next episode is the next episode. Yeah. All right. Episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah. Let me, let me hold off on this one. She's just interviewing her about her, um, interior designer. Is that what she is? Right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:55:58 That's right. Cause she's just interviewed. The next one is when she goes to her art show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, oh my God. And so, um, and then this is where, is this where Andy tells The next one is when she goes to her art show. Yeah. Yeah. But oh my God.
Starting point is 00:56:05 And so, um, and then this is where, is this where Andy tells Dawson like an idiot that she likes Pacey? God. No, that's, that's next one too. That's one. Yeah. This one is strictly, this one's strictly the, this is just the school project. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And then, and then, and then you get- Oh, and Pacey gets the unexpected move at the end where he does a comprehensive like overview of the assignment to help bail out Andy. Cause she goes way overboard. They're going in like 12 different apartment views. That's crazy. That's too far. Yeah, that's, that's insane. I, I, I, at first I was like, Oh geez, you know, like Pacey do the homework. And then he's like, this is the 12th apartment. I was I, I, at first I was like, Oh geez, you know, like Pacey do the homework. And then he's like, this is the 12th apartment.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I was like, Oh, okay. So basically he's not wrong here. Like this is you, you go to one, two max at the most. And you know what? You at this point, you're just wasting that apartments time. Yeah, exactly. Like just pull up, just like open up the fucking newspaper. They had all that shit in the back pages of the newspaper and the classifieds.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And you could have gotten everything that you needed from that poor real estate agent whose time you wasted from the back page on the end. How's for it? And they, they, they, not only are they dealing with the project, they're also screaming at each other. She's calling him lazy. And then he keeps calling her a spoiled brat because he's rich. He rich, rich, rich, rich. Because he, uh,
Starting point is 00:57:32 the, he just assumes because she drives a sob. Yeah. Which are sobs are even that good. Are some of that good at cars? Well, they, I don't know. I thought nerds drove sobs. If I'm being honest. Yeah. I never, if I saw one, I'd be like, geez, I bet that guy thinks he's cool, but he sucks. Yeah. They're sweet. Are they Swedish? Yep. Swedish. What's the, what's the Nick, the Nick grow bit? I don't know if it's about Sweden when he's like, yeah, for breakfast, we have caught one, one cigarette and coffee. And then far break,
Starting point is 00:58:03 we have two cigarettes and coffee. Oh yeah. That's always cracks me up. Because like I said, Brandon, I'm trying to bring smoking cigarettes back in the more tick tock videos I see about it. My God. And you know what happened to you last night, Brandon, we went to Goost town and there was a, uh, like a, uh,
Starting point is 00:58:26 a band from Louisiana and one of the guitarists I was like, you know what that dude needs right now? Heater dude. If he had, if he had a heater, uh, like sitting on those lips, he would have, he would have had every girl in the place. I'm telling you that he would have looked so fucking cool. When, uh, me and Danny were living in Smyrna, just outside of Atlanta, we'd lived real close to, uh, I forget the name of it, but it was a, um, ha like half of it was a Creole restaurant. And then the other half was, uh, just a dingy little bar, but you could, they let you smoke in the bar. Um, let's go.
Starting point is 00:59:04 It was amazing. And I would, I would go in there. I would go in there like during, uh, during the playoffs, uh, the hockey playoffs and I'd walk in there, uh, and be like, Hey, can you, can you guys put the, the avalanche game on and they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? And I went like, I did that like three, three or four times. Then I kept coming. And then whenever I'd come in, they'd be like, that's the hockey dude. That's fantastic. Yeah, I miss that place. That place is great. So it's nice when you walk in and they know you there's a little
Starting point is 00:59:37 diner on Wilmington. Yeah, they knew me because the hot because I was the only person who had ever requested for them to turn a hockey game on. I mean, that's, that's, I mean, I was just the guy that sat in the booth by myself and had like 20 cups of coffee while I ate my shrimp grits or whatever breakfast I chose that day. But soon as I walked in, they were, she was being, she was very nice. She was, I forget her name now cause I'm terrible at names, but literally I would walk in through the diner door and she would have a coffee and a water following me to my booth.
Starting point is 01:00:13 They're ready to rock and roll. That's my next like, uh, like bucket list item is to, uh, become a regular at like a, like a shitty breakfast place. Like, like, Oh dude, that's it. And it was like everything you could imagine as a diner on an island in between Tybee and Cebella. It was so good. There's a place up here in, um, um, Loveland.
Starting point is 01:00:37 And I think, I think it's the same place. There's one in Fort Collins too. I'm pretty sure it's the same owned by the same people. Um, she's called the breakfast club and you walk. There's a breakfast club. There was one off of Alameda. We went with a Huskers. Maybe it's a chain then.
Starting point is 01:00:56 That's just, we went to, that's disappointing then. I take you back. We went with Huskers and sorry, dude. I don't want to be, I don't want to be a regular then. But, wow. That's, that's good. Those are good moves. Those are good moves. So it's a place you like walk in and they have like old Coca-Cola ads on the
Starting point is 01:01:11 wall. And then the, you know, the, the coffee tastes like motor oil. Yeah. The bus, the bus boy is like, you know, somebody's like seven year old kid just running around. Love it. you know, somebody's like seven year old kid just running around. Yeah, love it. Then I love diner coffee, like like shitty motor oil diner coffee that you sip and you're like, oh, my God, yes, you can just like feel it. You're like grinding, you know, the grounds and with your teeth with a sip. So I'm a stomach's fox, but my god, I love it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It's so good. It's so good. Okay. So, all right. What else happened? And then Mitch and Gale, they have Thirsty Thursdays for each other where they can, you know, they can go out and do their thing. And then they're so fucking obnoxious about it that Dawson figures it out in the next episode.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Well, I love, I love how because they're just shouting at each other, like it's Thursday, Thursday. Um, and Dawson's like, what the fuck is Thursday? Dude. And I felt so bad for Dawson's mom. Like she was trying to do like date, cause he said date night. And so she was trying to do date night with him and he's like, sorry, going out to the bars. He wasn't even anyways, I just, I felt, they, they both, they both did the lamest thing you could ever do. And then the other thing, then they got back and well, I think he was honest to her about what he did. Uh,
Starting point is 01:02:40 although I think he lied about seeing he met a friend there or something. Yeah. But she straight up lied. And it's like, that's not how you do an open marriage. You're supposed to not lie. That's what that's the open part about it. That's what makes it open. And yeah, it's and once again, that's how you know how you know when it's over is when you would rather go be in a bar by yourself drinking alone than have a romantic dinner with that.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Your wife just surprised you with guy. I don't know if he would have rather done that. He looked, they both looked pretty fucking miserable. Uh, where, where each of them were, where was she at? Where did she go to the coffee shop? Well, that's what I'm saying. Like it's, it's over then, right? If you're doing that and set like, cause that was so nice.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Like that should, that should have at least sparked something in him. You know what I mean? Like that was like that to me, that's a lot of effort. You know what I like? Yes, she messed up, but like she is at that point, like there's nothing else she can do. There's just, and I will never side with the cheater, but at this, and this is the whole Batman, right? He's living long enough to become the villain because he's not doing the right thing. And you can't, you can't hold on to that.
Starting point is 01:03:55 That anger and resentment like he's doing and try to make it work. Like it's, if you're going to be like that, then you just kind of like, now it's your fault. You know what I mean? Like now it's his fault. It was her fault to begin with, but now it's his fault. Cause he's kind of making it worse. And so they're just doing what needs to be done, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah. But anyways, that's yikes dude. Open marriages. I mean, to the people that it works for, shout out, good luck, Godspeed, you know, I, I wish you all the best, but it's just, I don't see it. I don't know how people could do it. That's wild to me.
Starting point is 01:04:37 You know, I don't know. That's something I do. Not, not my thing. Not my cup of tea. That's I, you know, cause, and maybe that's why I feel so strongly. Cause to me, it's like, if it gets to that point. It's like, you know what? Probably it's time to Walk away you have a point to her if if it gets to that point, like I think most of the successful
Starting point is 01:04:56 open marriages Star that way you start that you it's a very clear expectation from the beginning Yeah, you don't you don't fall into an open marriage, you know? Yeah. If you do, it's always because Yeah. It's falling apart. But anyways, all right. Well, open marriage aside, that is just yikes for the Leary's and, but then, but then my God, um, the learies and, but then,
Starting point is 01:05:25 but then my God, Brandon, I couldn't, I couldn't believe it when the next episode popped up. And it said, uh, the, the rear view mirror shot, my God, when it said tomorrow's and like, I just, I could not believe that they brought her back. Brandon. That was another, an out loud exclamation of, I told you, I told you when she disappeared in season one, she does come back briefly, but she does
Starting point is 01:06:01 couldn't and the whole tension with her and Dawson's dad. Holy shit, Brandon. That was the show just goes for it. And I love it. I just I I'm all in, man. I am at like, was there was there like a Dawson's Creek fan club back in the 90s? Like when this show came out, were there like creek heads heads or creaky or I'm sure this was like, like millions of people watched every single episode.
Starting point is 01:06:33 This was a phenomenon. Yeah. Yeah. That's, um, whatever the Dawson's Creek, like fan club is. Count me in. I bet you there was, I bet you the, I bet you they sent you like a key chain. Could you imagine? Kids get it. But tomorrow I could not, I just could not believe to my, and then like, Dawson is trying to tell Pacey that it's happening and Andy's there and he's
Starting point is 01:07:07 like, what, just tell they're not, they're not subtle. They're not good at hiding anything. And so Andy, who has a point, he's like, I'm not going to hide anything. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. I'm going to hide it. where she's like, what's going on? And then again, they're not, they're not subtle. They're not going to hide. And no. And so Andy who has a pulse is like, what's going on here? Did you sex up your teacher?
Starting point is 01:07:34 And my God, Pacey and Tamara are making out in the abandoned warehouse at the end of the episode. I just got to have that kiss. Goodbye. I guess I just could not believe that they went there. Couldn't say, you know what? Brown to let's go like, and let's just throw in an unnecessary goodbye kiss to just cement this inappropriate.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I was waiting for, uh, um, you still 16. Just remember that it's still 16. Let's remember that. He's still 16. Just turned 16. Just turned 16. He just, he was 15. Yeah. He like, let's, let's remember that as we're, we have a make out session.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Like, damn it. Right. And he can't, and he can't even drive. We didn't touch on that in his birthday episode. He failed his driver's test. Yikes. I had no wonder that poor Andy hits the cop car. Well, he sucks at driving.
Starting point is 01:08:32 He didn't know what he was doing. It was probably his fault. Oh, yeah, probably. He pulled out in front of her. Oh, my God. I was half expecting when they're making out in the the warehouse for for Mitch to show up, though, I was waiting for that because're making out in the the warehouse from for Mitch to show up though I was waiting for that because they the way they set the camera up
Starting point is 01:08:49 They were like off to the right and on the left side It was like the doorway and also he's gonna walk in but he didn't so I They do talk they bring it up to each other him and tomorrow He's like he's like, didn't you didn't you bang a student? Isn't that what you do? And she's like, did your wife cheat on you? So, okay, let's, we don't have to talk about either of these. Yeah. All right. Okay. Fair, fair point. Right. That's that was good. And this is where we all sit like Jen and Abby, the,
Starting point is 01:09:22 the toxicity of their friendship just really comes to a boil. It's my God. Cause this is, isn't this where they are, they, they pick up the dude from the diner that thinks they're 18 or just makes no effort to ask. I guess. No, that's the next, that's full moon. Oh, it's full moon. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Well then what are they doing?
Starting point is 01:09:47 They're just, I mean, they're just, I forget what they did in episode four. They might not have been in a lot of episode four was mainly the art schtick. Oh yeah. And that's where Joey and, uh, uh, Jack go into the art show and we have Dawson just being a fucking piece of shit his complete Disrespect of everybody and their interests is wild. Oh He is the selfish person he judges everybody that likes anything Like he's like, oh, you're doing your, your little, your little art, your little art drawn hobby. You fucking nerd.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. Like you're obsessed with Steven Spielberg, you know, like what's, what's, what's dumber. Yeah. Um, and then, and then she's like, yeah, that, that drove me crazy when he's like, yeah, he just belittled everybody's interests that aren't his own. And it's next, I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for them. I'm, dammit, Joey and Jack. Um, but like, you know what I mean though? It's like, it's kind of like I'm rooting for them. Like when, when they, it's next episode, but man, when they were saving those lobsters together as in, you know, like let's like, it was a perfect, but he did
Starting point is 01:11:17 capitalize as a perfect moment for a kiss. So I felt it was romantic. That brings up a point I want to talk about. So they hired Jack on as a, as a bus boy, waiter thing. He's busing with the boys. And then they mentioned multiple times that, you know, her sister works there by herself.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Sometimes Joey's there by herself sometimes. And then they throw Jack in by himself here. Who's Cookie? And what are they cooking? That's true. Is that where Bodhi is? Is Bodhi just in the kitchen 24 seven? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:12:03 I mean, he was in that episode. Like he was back in the kitchen 24 7 maybe I mean he was in that episode like he was back in the kitchen cooking Yeah, well, then they were like That's what the lobsters threw me off cuz I was like cuz originally I was thinking like ice house The ice house maybe it's maybe it's like sandwiches and like real like they make it seem like a coffee shop diner Yeah with nothing too intensive to cook because Cause they never, cause it's, it's just them, right? There's nobody else that's working there. It was Bodhi's. But then the lobster is, I was like, who, who's cooking the fucking lobsters? Is it,
Starting point is 01:12:36 is Joey waiting tables and cooking lobsters by herself? And if so, I don't want that lobster. Cause they did. You're right. They did make it seem like Joey was holding down the fort on her own. Yeah, I just the logistics of the light of the ice house were throwing me off. I was like, how is this working? They need they need bar rescue.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Nobody's ever there. No one's ever there. They don't have any customers. It's back in the nineties. You could have no customers in your business and somehow stay open. On, on the, on the, in the fuck, like right by the docs on a, in a Cape town though, that's pricey. That's gotta be pricey real estate.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Right? I mean, there's also, if your place is empty there, it's probably a, you have a problem. And they were fair. And they mentioned in the lifestyles episode, she's barely paying bills. They were extremely worried about losing the money on those lobsters. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I would, I need more information on what the ice house is doing here. It's, it's probably not, you know, the, the pillar of sustainability. But you know, they're surviving. It's all you can do. And her sister is living her dream. Yeah. Is that her dream though? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I don't know why she's doing it. They never really get into it. She's just, was it a family business and then dads in jail moms? No, wait, I don't think so because they don't mention that before. And if you think back to the beginning of season one, they established Bodie as like, um, I mean, this would make sense if he's just stuck in the kitchen, but then they, but they treat her like a single mom.
Starting point is 01:14:27 But in the, at the beginning of the first season, Bodhi is always like making food for her, right? He's always like, taste this, taste this. So he's the cook. So I think it's Bodhi's dream. Um, interesting. Yeah. Where the fuck is Bodhi? Just didn't have, didn't have that character in the budget. Hashtag.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Where's Bodie, man. Put out a missing persons report, Brandon, but it is a full moon rising Brandon. Just like Creedence sang about, right? The other thing with Dawson and Joey. Gotta love some Creedence. CCR dude. I love CCR. I down on the corner. I that was my college at karaoke. So yeah, that's a good one. Proud Mary. Um, down on the cone, but, uh, Dawson and Joey,
Starting point is 01:15:19 when he's like belittling her for having, you know, an interest that isn't him, um, she's like, she's her for having, you know, an interest that isn't him. She's like, she's talking about how like she really, she's really into art. She's really liking it. She's, you know, when she's doing the whole, like everything in my life is about you. Like I need something else. And he, he has the fucking audacity after she just poured her heart out being like, I really love this. I need like, this is for me. I need this.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And he goes, that's super cool and all, but I don't, I don't want us to lose what's good about us. Yeah. And it's like, how the fuck is the, is her doing aren't going to do that. He's such like, it's like textbook gas, lotty manipulation. He is the absolute worst. He's, he's trying to cut her off from everything else so he can beat her up. That's what he's trying to do.
Starting point is 01:16:13 And when he eventually shows up and he is the worst about like when he shows up, he was like such a dick about it. Well, yeah, he can't, he cannot, he cannot fake it for the, for anything. Like when they, at the beginning, such a jackass when he showed, like I, like when he, I got mad when he showed up and I was like, well, like, what do you do? Like, just don't come dude. Like just don't come. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I got mad when I was at the beginning of beginning of the episode when they're in like the seminar. And they walk out and she's like, she's like, did you have fun? And he, he, he can't just be like, yeah, yeah, I had a good time. He has to like, he has to fucking, you know, tell you how fucking stupid of a hobby this is. And it's just got up. Just just one time just say Yeah, it was great. Yeah Yeah, just it's it's just like just like everybody does with your stupid fucking movies. Just be like, yeah, it's fine. It's good. That's Like they have to sit and listen to you talk about jaws, you know, like, well, first of all, let's not throw jaws under the, I'm not trying to throw jaws. I'm just, jaws is my favorite movie of all time.
Starting point is 01:17:31 That was, that was, let's tread lightly here. I use that because that was one that he talked about in season one, Brandon, you know, he does have the poster, the poster in his room. Yeah. But jaws, jaws is fucking fantastic. But I just, yeah, Dawson just continues to evolve as the worst. You notice how I told you it was my favorite movie of all time. How often do I bring it up? You never, never, because nobody, you're right.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Nobody wants to hear that. No one cares. No one cares about Steven Spielberg anymore. No, but I just, yeah, Dawson just continues to find new and interesting ways to be annoying. He just can't shut up. Like he's his own goddamn worst enemy. Like just shut up and just smile and nod there's there's just a level of like Pretentious know it on this that doesn't allow him. It's exactly what it is Yeah, you know that it doesn't allow him to let things lie and it doesn't allow him to have people not realize You know, he is smart, you know how
Starting point is 01:18:42 There's all those stories about smart. You know how, um, there's all those stories about, uh, like the fast and furious productions and Vin Diesel and how he, you know, he won't take a punch. He always has to win a fight. Like, I feel like Vin Diesel and Dawson are very similar with the person where they, they always have to one up yet. They always got to be on top. And it's just like one upper, but Dawson is a one upper. Like he's always got to be on top and it's just like, I hate a one-upper, but Dawson is a one-upper. Like he's always got to be the biggest victim, the biggest star, the biggest, you know, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dawson. The real life Dawson.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Cut that for a TikTok Brandon. You're right though. That's exactly what it's, it's the, it's the know it all. Um, pretentiousness. You just can't, he can't ever let, he can't ever admit he's wrong. Yeah. And he can't ever not be the smartest person in the room in his, in his like, Yeah. It's like, okay, we get it.
Starting point is 01:19:45 You think you're the smartest person in this room. I mean, that's, you know where he would thrive though is corporate America. Oh, oh yeah. He would, he would, he would thrive and survive in corporate America with that mindset. Yeah, yeah, I'm just the opposite. He would know how to take credit for everything.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Yeah, I'm the, yeah, I'm the opposite. I, if I ever walk into a room and I think I'm the smartest person in that room, I get scared. Something's wrong. It's I'm with you there. It's like, it's like, Oh no, do, do you all know where you went wrong? Let's let's retrace our steps here. Yeah. We need to, we need to update hiring practice cause somewhere we want to stray. Anyways, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:36 So, and then, okay. So my God, do we, we've got Joey, so Joey and Jack's growing chemistry is a big piece of the, like, I love this episode. This, this was my favorite episode out of the bunch. Episode one, I really enjoyed like getting back into it, but I loved this episode. I was like, oh, the whole time. Like it was fun. The full moon, everyone acting crazy. I like Jack and Joey. I am team Jack and Joey all the way.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Like I would love for her to die. Like they could go to art shows together. Like he seems super shit. Like he's the chill to her crazy. And like, I think that they would be a great, like she could be angry and grumpy and he would be chill. And so it would, you know what I mean? Like it wouldn't really, like they would, they would, I feel like they would, that's why there's chemistry there. You know, there's some,
Starting point is 01:21:32 some fire and ice between Jack and Joey and God, I just, anyways, I really liked them. I liked the, the whole lobster charade. I loved the kiss. I thought she was going to like blurt it out that it happened. Didn't she? I can't remember. No, no, no. But the kiss is next. Lobster's a kisser. Which is along Tamara. And I do want to-
Starting point is 01:21:52 Oh, sorry. Episode five was my favorite. I do want to apologize. You asked earlier what, if Jen and Abby were doing the whole doc thing and you were right. They, they meet him in this episode. That's what I thought. Then they're like hitting on him at lunch. Like, they go shopping.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Yeah. Yeah. And then they just like stock him along for him along the dock and find him on the boat. Yeah. And didn't she say they were there for two hours? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Mom and mom went around the dock for two hours. Dude, that's pre internet. Wild. Dude, there was, there was so. What are we going to do with all this time on our hands? Exactly. You did stuff. You did, it's like, who gives a shit?
Starting point is 01:22:36 What else are we going to do with two hours? You know? Oh, did you ever like just sit in your room and throw a ball against the wall? Yep. I never threw it against the wall. because if it would leave a mark, my mom would know and she would, and I would get in trouble. So I would just throw it straight up and try to throw it as close to the
Starting point is 01:22:55 ceiling without touching it. Yeah. That's what I did too. Mainly because, uh, it wasn't leaving a mark, but I, uh, um, you know, I was, I was told the turning and slow was too loud. Mm. Um, but I, you know, I was told that Thrinning and Swell was too loud. But I did have a, that's if I was doing it in my room. I had the sickest basement set up in my grown up house. We had, it was unfinished basement, so it's all concrete.
Starting point is 01:23:22 And then, you know, we threw like old carpet in one section. So it had like, and like, it wasn't like actual attached to the house. It was just a, you know, a rug of old carpet on the, on the concrete. You know, you get it. Um, don't we have the exact same thing? There was a, but there was a pad and then there was old carpet that we patched together that they were going to throw away because it was old and wasn't used at one of the apartments
Starting point is 01:23:46 my dad worked at. So it was like brown. Or no, it might've even been the carpet from upstairs. We just moved downstairs instead of throwing it away. That's what I was supposed to see. When they initially redid the carpet, it was about a little too much. Just moved it down.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Yep. And then, but the basement, so it was unfinished. It was fucking like six and a half foot ceilings, but I was a child at this point, so I'm real small. Yeah. And I had my dad build a makeshift basketball hoop down there. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:24:17 I had a little Tikes basketball hoop that we would play. I see. This was so, so my dad built, like built a backboard out of wood and he fastened that to the wall as high as he could and then drilled an actual basketball hoop into it. So I have a legit, but again, it's only like six feet tall. But as a little kid, I was just running around Duncan constantly. It was a little, it was a little hard to shoot, uh, deep range because you couldn't arc it.
Starting point is 01:24:52 That's why I was really good at like the, the soccer throw into a basketball hoop because of all that time in the basement where I couldn't arc shit. Yeah. But that was the, we had some pipes and you would have to avoid the one pipe. So there was like a certain like Twitch you had to put to your shot. Like, yeah, little, we would have some Epic little basketball tournaments. I am. That's what we would call it. We called it little basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Me and my buddies would, uh, would do, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:22 basketball tournaments. We got really into college basketball and we would do like, you know, March madness, that's how that's the main reason why I know so many, um, like every single, why my, my knowledge of college mascots is so deep is because we would just do, you know, March madness, 24 seven in the basement. We did NBA because I had the NBA pencils and then we had used the pencils as tournament markers and we put them, you know, we take turns playing. We'd take turns playing as a guy from the team. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Yeah. Yeah. And so like, I mean, there's a lot of imagination there, but you know, like even, even sometimes try to recreate the moves, you know, like if I'm, if I'm David Robinson, I'm doing David Robinson moves. If I'm Damon Stoudemire, you know, I'm, I'm slicing and dicing maybe, Oh dude, I love Nick Van Exel, Shimmy. I was, I was, I would throw down on that. I was real big into, um, baseball batting stances. So I was able to, yeah, dude, I could copy everybody's, Bovon Chuck Knoblock.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Craig council had a great one. Uh, Luis Gonzalez. Chuck Knoblock was a good one. Obviously. All right, Brandon, let's get to full moon rising. Cause this is my favorite episode. There's a lot to unpack here and we're taking a while. And I got chicken in the crock pot that I got to check on in like 30
Starting point is 01:26:41 minutes. Crock pot chicken. Nice. Yeah, I figured it'd be great. I'm going to shred it. and we're taking a while and I got chicken in the crockpot that I got to check on in like 30 minutes. Crockpot chicken. Nice. Yeah, I figured it'd be great. I'm going to shred it. Did some, uh, did some Cajun seasoning on it. Nice. Do some, some shredded chicken Cajun style. What are you gonna, what's, what's going to be, are you just going to eat the shredded chicken or you get, what's your, what's your vessel? So I've got, um, some sourdough buns. I'm going to do some sandwiches during the week.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Um, I've got some, I mean, uh, it's, it's not ideal, but I got some instant mashed potatoes that I'm actually pretty fired about there was constant cheddar, instant mashed potatoes, instant mashed potatoes. All right. You know what? I'm a fucking sucker for, what's that? Is the, like the Bob Evans, like bucket bucket of mashed potatoes. You know what I'm a fucking sucker for? What's that? Is the like the Bob Evans like bucket bucket of mashed potatoes. Those are so good. So there, I know it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:27:31 it's more butter and salt than it is potato, but it's, that's why it tastes so good. It's always awesome. So good. So anyways, yeah, that's, um, I gotta, I gotta go check on that, but I'm really, uh, I think it's gonna, I think it's gonna turn out just fine, you know? But anyways, all right, Brandon. So full moon rising. This is my favorite episode of the bunch. It is good all the way around from every character.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Dawson understand figures out his parents because they are the least subtle people in the world. Thursday's guys. Thursday is like, why the fuck are you making such a big deal about Thursday's? the least subtle people in the world. Thursdays guys. Thursdays. Like why the fuck are you making such a big deal about Thursdays? What are you talking about? Thank you. And then the reality sets in for poor Dawson and shocker. He handles it poorly. It's I mean, he handles it pretty well, honestly.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I mean, what do you mean? Dramatic about it. I mean he's like he's like yelling and everything but he does the right thing where he's like you guys gotta fucking figure it out it's I He does he is whining to his dad he's like dad you gotta fix it Meaning get back with mom just forgive her and it's, I don't know if that's the best decision to make, but he is right in that we gotta wrap this up. We gotta make a fucking decision.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I do feel bad for him that he's having to deal with this. Like it's the first time I actually feel bad for Dawson. I'm like, he doesn't deserve this. When he's at the table and his dad starts talking about how his dad had every answer and he didn't, he didn't think to ask his dad, what do I do with my wife? I was like half, I was like half about to cry and half laughing my ass off. I know I felt so bad for him, but I was also like, that's, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Having that conversation with your son is tough. Yeah. You know, it feels like a conversation for a therapist. I don't know. Oh, a hundred percent. But the way, the way he, the way he like got to that end question when he was, and for when he was like, I just, I never thought to ask my dad, what do I do if my wife cheats on me? Does anyone think that? Yeah. Anyone has anyone ever thought that?
Starting point is 01:29:48 No, but I mean, in hindsight, it would have been a good question to ask. I mean, yeah, I guess I just, yeah, that was, that was wild. Um, it just, yeah, that whole, uh, and then they wrap that part up by them. Did you catch that at the end? They basically wrap that up by, like she comes in, she says it's time. And he's like, you or me. Oh yeah. When he, when she's sitting there looking at them, yeah, he walks in and he's like,
Starting point is 01:30:19 she's like, do you want me to go? And he's like, no, I'll do it. Yeah. Cause he's going to go get the, you know, get the papers filed here. Finally. Right. But anyways, so that's, that's wild. And then, um, yeah, we've got Joey and Jack, that whole, I kind of liked that whole bar scene. And then the guy left the crazy note, um, after he was sipping on the coffee.
Starting point is 01:30:42 And my God, do you remember when a hundred dollars made you feel rich? Dude, a hundred, I don't know. A hundred dollars still makes me feel rich. Oh my God. It doesn't go as far, but yeah, I mean, I would, as somebody who doesn't have a hundred dollars, I would kill for a hundred dollars. Oh my God. You are so dramatic. But that was, I thought I loved that whole, I loved the lobsters. I loved the Joey Jack dynamic. I, I love that. I wish it was great in hindsight. I wish they would have had the dude say a little more than just,
Starting point is 01:31:14 like if you would have had him say some like nonsense every once in a while. And they're like, what the fuck's this guy talking about? So I think that would have been a little bit better. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he, he leaves the poem. I have the poem to do you want to? Oh, yeah, read the poem is good. It's very, it's very on theme of full moon rising. So the poem he wrote down for them goes, by moonlight many years ago, my true love did I know by that moon I baked her awake. But that night did she go young lovers?
Starting point is 01:31:46 Heed my word don't squander love away The moon is changing ever still soon comes the light of day Which beautiful I mean, it's beautiful and then he went not bad and then that kid went for it. Yeah, don't Don't squander love away. He's, um, well yeah, what a mysterious old man. That was drinking coffee, leaving a hundred dollars a tip. I know. I, I, I, it was, I love this episode. I've really enjoyed that storyline.
Starting point is 01:32:20 That's like my goal. It just be a mysterious old man. Yeah. And just to leave like crazy tips where they're like, yeah, yeah. Like, who is this guy? Leave, leave a weird fucking poem that he probably didn't even write. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Dude. Yeah. Oh my God. Just have like, just walk around with like prewritten words of wisdom in your pocket and he was like, leave it with a massive tip. Yeah. That's, that's the dream, dude. That's the dream. Uh, you're like, you're like a mysterious, like Robin Hood,
Starting point is 01:32:52 Gandhi type figure. Wow. I mean, even not Gandhi. Gandhi. Yeah, dude. That's you landed. I don't want to be Gandhi. Gandhi was a true leader piece. Um, it was a racist.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Oh, was he? Geez. Yikes. Yeah. Have you never do you not know Gandhi? I mean, I just look at the look at the Gandhi. He's not he's not he's not squeaky clean. Nobody is. But nobody is just like just like Mother Teresa.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Son of a God. Jesus Christ. Okay. Then Pacey and Andy Brandon. This is where we get the background story of this is fucking wild. I this is insane. Could not believe that this is where the episode went. I this is why it was my favorite episode.
Starting point is 01:33:43 I think what do, what do you, what do you think she was going to come down with? I don't know. I, what's the movie with Buffalo Bill? It puts the lotion on the skin or like, it reminds me of like one of those movies where like she's going to come down with the doll and then like, like a straw, like a straw doll of the guy. And she like, here's Tim say hi, Tim. Hello, Pacey.
Starting point is 01:34:22 That's what I was. Yeah. I was, that's what I did that. This, this, this was just so fucking wild. That was so to set it up for those that haven't seen the episode, right? Like Casey asked her on a date. She's like, you cannot pick me up at my house. Let's see. I forget. Yeah. Yeah. She says you cannot pick me up at the house, but they get their wires crossed about where they're supposed to meet. So she goes to the movie theater and he goes to the place and then, and then they, uh, to where, uh, to the restaurant. And then they like go back and they're like, Oh, they keep missing each other. And then she's like, Oh my God, Jack, he's at the house with mom. And she books it out of there. She's running Brandon because Paisley gets to the house and his very normal mother,
Starting point is 01:35:14 you know, but, but she alludes to something, you know, like not wanting him over there. And the mom is like, yeah, let me go get my son. He's home visiting from college. And, and then we find out later. Dad will be home any second. Yeah. Let me go get Tim. He's he comes home.
Starting point is 01:35:33 He can stay for dinner. Yeah. Yeah. Set a set two more table sets. So she's in, because Jack's working. She's in that cause Jack's working. She's in that house all by herself. In denial, bat shit crazy.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Setting seven table sets. But it's better, they'd probably go into foster care, right? Cause they're young enough, they'd have to go into foster care unless like, so. Should we be leaving her alone though? I mean, that's probably what's like going care unless like, so we should we be leaving her alone though? I mean, that's probably what's like going on is like the and dad's back in Providence trying to save the family business. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Yikes. It's just a double yikes all the way around. But she said, yeah, she said she says dad fucking bailed right away, which like, that's that's crazy too. Yeah. For your, your wife to go into a, um, like a psychosis and you just fucking, you don't, you don't, you don't get her any help. You just fucking bail.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Like let's, let's have dad stay and maybe we have mom check in. Right. And we just, and we just have mom monitored. Just hopefully we, I mean, if depending on how bad this is, if she's got a fucking doll, we, we gotta, we, she needs to go somewhere. We gotta get her inpatient care. Yeah. She's gonna, she's gonna hurt herself or someone. Yeah. You know, like that's, and dad bail. Like I do. Yeah. Yeah. She's going to, she didn't hurt herself or someone. Yeah. You know, like that's and dad bail. Like I did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Yeah. That was dad. That's why what I said when we first started talking, they fucking go for it. Brandon, like they are taking swings and they don't give a shit. And I love it. We didn't, uh, um, you brought it up earlier, but we didn't talk about it during the last episode, which was the dead mom conversation with Joey. Where the interior designer that she's taking art classes with is like, oh, your mom used to be an artist.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Or she's like, Joey says that, my mom used to be an artist. So like why? Used to, why would you? And as soon as she said used to be an artist. So like why? Used to. Why would you? And as soon as she said used to, I started laughing Brandon, because you and your psycho humor. Well see that's- I was like, here we go.
Starting point is 01:37:53 You see that's a double edged sword. And I'm gonna give Kelly, Kelly props on this, because that is, it's such a double edged sword when, when people ask you questions like that, because, and the reason you use like the past tense is to like drop like subtle hints, like, hey,
Starting point is 01:38:15 they're like used to, you know. Let sleeping dogs lie. Yes, a smart person would be like, I get you, I'm not gonna, you know, yeah, weak. I got you. We'll move on. Sliding right on past that. And I'm going to pretend like you never sent anything because that's uncomfortable. You don't go, oh, used to what's what's that about?
Starting point is 01:38:38 But so I'll give Kelly props to this because when we were working at when I was working at Zillow with her, stuff like that would come up and I would use the past tense. And you know, she would just brush on by. And then like, I think like, you know, a couple months into us, you know, just really talking, she was like, so your mom's dead, right? Like I've gotten your hands, your mom's dead. Right. Um, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Spot on. Thank you for picking up those hands.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Spot on. Thank you for picking up those hands. Oh, I think Kelly heard me say something about your dead mom one time. And she was so offended. He was like, I know I've definitely brought this up before, but that was my favorite thing to do to Danny because Danny, Danny would get so visibly uncomfortable when I would make a dead mom joke. It was the best.
Starting point is 01:39:30 That was incredibly mean of you, but also hilarious at the same time, you know, cause it's mean to make someone feel uncomfortable like that. But my God, that is hilarious too. But anyway, so like I had to pause the show because I was like, God damn it, Brandon, because I shouldn't have started laughing at that moment in time in the show, but I started laughing because I was like, here we go.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Here we go. And how is Joey gonna handle this comment? She handled it as well as she can. She did it, she did better than she used to, right? Because that season one she would have really leaned into it. Yeah, like, you know, but uh, Those conversations are so weird because everybody Um, especially like because well, I mean her hers I think is kind of recent right her mom died Yeah, it's pretty yeah, so that that breast cancer is pretty traumatizing. It's like I think a couple years ago, right? I think is what she died. Yeah, it's pretty. Yeah. So that that's cancer is pretty traumatizing.
Starting point is 01:40:25 It's like, I think a couple years ago, right? I think is what she says. Yeah. Yep. Um, so when it's like that fresh, it's, you know, obviously, you know, everybody's, it's, it's tougher to handle than like now. I'm fucking decades removed from it. So when I, when it comes up and people are like, I'm so sorry, I'm like, it was fucking, I'm fine. It's 20 years ago, bro. I've, I've, I've moved on. You should too. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. You know, Brandon, thank goodness. I'm glad you have moved on. Some people don't, you know, and then they, they like that. That like, that's, it's, it's always the,
Starting point is 01:41:01 me and my sister always talking about it. Cause it's always the worst. Cause when that comes up, cause you're like, it is no matter, no matter who or when or where you're at, it's, it's an instant vibe killer. Yeah. And it's always because they get so sad. And it's like, I try like, I, I, it becomes a, it becomes where I have to comfort them. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Wait, that, that actually would be incredibly frustrating. It's like, I'm sorry that something that is over and done and out of our control has made you uncomfortable. Yeah. God damn it. And it's like, especially nowadays with like, you know, now that everyone's so sensitive about stuff. No, as I say, now that like I'm older, I'm in my thirties.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I'm like, it's one thing when you're cause like my mom passed away when I was younger, when you're Joey and you're in high school and you're the only person whose mom is dead. But now it's like, I know a couple, a bunch of my friends, their parents are starting to pass away. So now it's like, it shouldn't be such a weird fucking vibe killer, but it is. That's the other thing is, especially now that I'm older, that's the other thing is, especially now that I'm older, that's the other thing is it's a vibe killer when they, when you know, it gets brought up and then when they find out, cause they always, they're always, they always ask like how, how, how and when. And then I got to be like, Oh my God, follow up questions.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Well, not always, but there's, there's, there's, that's too much for me. No offense, Brandon, but like, is that why we're friends? Cause I'm never going to ask you a second question like that. Like, no offense, right? Like I'm glad we get to know each other, but like, you know, it's just not my style. Not my STEEZ. I mean, you don't even know my birthday, but, but, uh, but people, people do, they, they, you know, they think they're trying to,
Starting point is 01:43:05 you know, show their, their compassionate stuff and like, Oh, you know what happened? So it's like, I, it, like the fact that it happened when I was a kid, like doubles down on the vibe killing. Cause then they're always like, Oh no, it's like, it's, it's, it's a weird problem to have. Uh, and, and, you know, no offense, Brandon, but I feel like that's just so many things that you're just going to hate responding to. Yeah. And it's like, I hate that I am having to respond to this with you right now.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Yes. Because people are all people always come out, they're, they're coming from a nice place and a, you know, an empathetic place. So it's like, it's annoying, but I can't, I can't be mad at you for asking, you know, it's just, which makes it even worse. It's like, I can't be mad at you or annoyed at you. And so this is kind of pissing me off a little bit because I know that I'm the bad guy in this, but it's your fault that I'm the bad guy in this, but it's your fault. Yeah. Then I'm the bad guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:06 God, I would feel the same way. Brandon. That's actually really interesting. Why do I put that? My mom's the one who's dead, but now I'm angry and I'm the bad guy. So you're Bob. Oh my God. Brandon.
Starting point is 01:44:25 It was fantastic. Joey handled it very well though, as well as you can for sure. I thought it was a great, it was a great representation of those conversations where you're like, this is just so awkward and such a vibe killer. Yeah. It's like, damn it. We're having a good art conversation. The worst, dude, the worst, the worst is when you're on like a, uh, like a first date and it pops up. Like that's the fucking, cause that's like, that's an immediate, like, you know, vibe killer. Like, like if,
Starting point is 01:45:01 if you're already not kind of like, it shuts the whole thing down. Yeah. Which, which is like insane when you think about it, right? It's like, it's as why, it's like, well, you know, sorry. That's it. Like, have you seen those tech talks where like girls talk about the things they hate the guys do and they're like making the list and some of them are like really outlandish. And it's like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:30 The best of the guy who has like the scrolling list of everything. And it's like, here's another one. Yeah. And that's, that's the next one is like dead parent. There is one where it's like, Oh, dead mom. Yeah. I'll have to, they need to film you and make a dead mom one. I'll have to... I don't...
Starting point is 01:45:50 Yeah. There's a couple I've seen where it's like, it's like dead mom or it's like, oh yeah. It's like when a red flag, when they're not close with their mother. And then it's like a, what do they call it? When you jump into somebody else's video. I forget what they call it.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Oh, it's like a cut. Yeah. A stitch. That's what they call it when you jump into somebody else's video? I forget what they call it. Oh, it's like a cut. Yeah, a stitch. That's what they call it when you stitch. So it's like red flag when he's not close to his mom and then it stitches in the sky. He's got like a picture of his dead mom and he's like, way to go, mom. It's really good stuff. I'll have to find, yeah, there's some great ones where it's like that, where it's like, yeah, if he's, yeah, if he's got a dead parent, dead parent, or it's not close with his mom and shit like that, I'll, I'll send them to you. They're great.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Okay. I mean, that's, you're going to get fucking dead parent algorithm on my Instagram. That's the best, that's the best algorithm. All right. Anyways. Okay. So, so Joey and Jack, and then we got Pacey and Andy on their date, where we've talked about a little bit. My God, I just, I still can't believe they went for it like that.
Starting point is 01:47:01 We've got dad abandoning family. We've got mom thinking that brother is still alive. Like just not dealing with the grief. Well, we've got, what's she saying? He's Oh, those damn headphones. Cause he's not coming downstairs. Wild, dude. Oh my God. I forgot about that part. Brandon. That is wild. I, like I said, they go for it. They just, they get, if they've got a bit in an episode, they go all the way in. I can't wait to see how this unfolds. I completely forgot about this storyline. Um, so yeah, I'm, I'm intrigued on where, where it goes. Uh, cause yeah, it's been years and years and years since I've seen season,
Starting point is 01:47:47 season two or anything. Yeah. And so I, yeah, completely forgot that this was a fucking plot line. So yeah, I'm, I'm intrigued. I, yeah, I just could not believe it for the life of me. But anyways, they have to do something with it, right? You can't bring this up and then not touch on it ever again. I just could not believe it for the life of me. Um, but anyways, I got, they have to do something with it, right? You can't bring this up and then not touch on it ever again.
Starting point is 01:48:10 No, you have to settle the story somehow, some way. Like this has to be figured out somehow. So yeah. So anyways, I did, that'll be fascinating. Um, and then, God, we talked about the Mitch and Gail. They eventually separated at the end, but we've got to talk about Jen's rebound gone wrong and their double down on the underage person with the older person. Yikes. Right. So Jen goes, I'm going to say I'm in,
Starting point is 01:48:42 he's in his defense. I was just saying, I was trying to think of how to do this without defending a sexual predator, but he did not, he assumed she was overage, which I don't know that we got to, but why would you assume that she's she's a child? Um, and, and grant and 16 year olds don't look like 21 year olds, you know, no, I believe Michelle Williams is around 20 when she's filming this. I mean that haircut, right? No,
Starting point is 01:49:19 no self respecting 20 year old woman would have that haircut, right? That should have been a dead giveaway. That haircut. My God. But my point was he air quotes, didn't know that she was underage. Whereas Tamara that she full knowledge. Yeah. Tomorrow, tomorrow was a predator. Yeah. Tomorrow, tomorrow was a predator. This guy, what was his name?
Starting point is 01:49:45 Man, Vincent, Vincent, Vincent, while wrong and incorrect, and should not have been doing those things. There was nothing that would have led him to believe that she was underage. And as soon as he found out he went well, so now not in his defense, when he found out she was 16, he stopped when full panic mode and left. But just before that she kept saying no, and he was full on prepared to rape her. I actually was like, Holy shit, are we going there?
Starting point is 01:50:20 Yeah. Like I was, so he's, he's, he's not a sexual predator as a pedophile, but he is a rapist. Yes. So he was wrong. And then he was tried to do the right thing, but he was super wrong. Yeah. Anyways, let's, let's just leave Vincent as probably not a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. That's safe. Safe to say, I think it's safe to say that Vincent is, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:48 probably kind of a scumbag. Yeah. Um, you know, but, but yeah, that was poor. And then grams. Oh jeez. Louise. I've never felt like Jen is doing Graham. I mean, she does the, the, the, ever felt like she's doing Graham. I mean, she does the how she yells at Jen afterwards was a little unwarranted and very slut shamy. So great Grams is I mean, terrible for her to walk in on that. She did not handle it.
Starting point is 01:51:21 She handled it in the moment very well. But then afterwards, she started screaming at Jen again. That was too much. That was too much. Although I did love, I did love before she leaves, she's like, I'm going to Bible study. I'm trying to remember exactly what she says. She says the book they're reading and all that.
Starting point is 01:51:41 She goes, it's pretty interesting. You can put the religion, even if you put the religion aside, it might be pretty entertaining. Four grams dude, I feel bad. I did find a breakdown of the full moon part of it and I thought it was a fun breakdown where it says the symbolic full moon weaves through every storyline, highlighting how close each character is to change, breakdown, or breakthrough. Did any? Well, I guess the parents had a breakthrough. Andy and Pacey had a breakthrough in their relationship, some deeper trust. I guess.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Pacey had a breakthrough in their relationship, some deeper trust. I guess. Um, we do. Uh, I, I was suddenly offline. This was, uh, I just kind of arbitrarily picked the number of episodes. Mitch and Gale had a breakthrough too. They had their breakthrough. Oh yeah, that's what I said. It was a breakdown.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Anyways, you keep going. Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. Yeah. Well, that's what I said. The, the parents had a breakthrough, but, um, a lot of breakdowns to lead to the breakthroughs. But I mentioned it off air beforehand. But I just arbitrarily kind of picked what episodes to bunch together. And this one actually turned out perfect because we end Episode Five with literally everybody crying. we end episode five with literally everybody crying. It's great. I love this episode.
Starting point is 01:53:07 It was good. I liked full moon rising. I thought it was a really fun episode. I thought that like the have it like I did really enjoy like how everyone kept it. Oh, it's a full moon out tonight. Like it's you know, and because it's sometimes it's true. Do you remember like customer service calls on the full moon?
Starting point is 01:53:26 People act crazy. It's, it's, it's a thing for sure. I'm not a thing. I'm not a big, uh, like, uh, um, astrology guy, but, uh, the moon's for sure. Definitely. You know, it's because like, like, uh, I think it's Joey that says it right where like your your body's 75% water and the moon fucking moves the water. So like, something's going on. There's there's something there's something to it. It's not there. I don't know what it is, but there's something to it. Yeah, I mean, I love it. Yeah. I mean, I love it. Love it all. Brandon. It's a top, like a great group of episodes here.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Like I said, everybody is, uh, everybody's laying on the floor crying at the end of this episode. It's, I mean, we've got Jen and grandma. It's, oh my God. What do we, where do we go from here? Right? Joey and Jack. Now it's like, what do we do there? Joey and Dawson are also like tons of tension there because they've had the kiss and now it's the fallout and it's still falling out. Mitch and Gail finally doing the divorce piece. Like it's time to move on time to move out. Pacey and Andy Pacey finally moving on from tomorrow because we, there was some,
Starting point is 01:54:50 of course there was some unresolved pieces there because he was groomed. Right? Like that's terrifying. Oh my God. It is just, and I, we did love this show. The other, the, the, you know, Sherry on top of this, the ending of this episode is Jewel. You are not wrong in the slightest Brandon. I, I went back, I went back and rewatch the part so I could listen to it again. I fucking love Jewel. I'm a, I'm a Jewel head. I mean, that's so,
Starting point is 01:55:29 I don't know if I'll ever hear someone say that in my life again, but that's it. That's interesting. I think jewel heads. I was trying to think of a better way to describe that. I think jewel head. I like jewel head though. I guess we had, I don't know, but dude, or a, a, a, a Julia. That's too close actually that's It's that's I don't like that. Um, dude, but that what was the song again? I can't hands Yeah, that was not a good one. You need more, you need more nasal.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Nah. You know. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I think that's right. You're, I can't really exactly tell what melody you're going for, but I think that's right. Hold on. I can't, I can't get it. I can't, all I can hear is my fan in the background.
Starting point is 01:56:21 This one, they might not pick up on it. I'm just playing the song. Oh, that's not, it's not going well. Anyways, dude, that jewel song at that moment in time. On point. I know I need to go. I'm going to go back. I'm going to go back and listen to just a bunch of jewel today. Just fucking put it on repeat. Get some Harvey Danger in there too.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Flagpole should have a paranoia paranoia. Everybody's coming to get me. You know, it's a sneaky good cover of that song. What's that? Kelly Clarkson. Oh, really? She does. She does. She has that daytime show she does. And she always does not always, but she does a bunch of,
Starting point is 01:57:06 she does like a live performance at the end of the show. Oh, and she does a ton of covers of stuff. And she did flagpoles today. It was a great cover. I love that you watch the Kelly Clarkson show. I don't. I, uh, the, her life, the live performance cover. She does just pop up on my algorithm though, for sure. All right. Hey, that's where I see them. Hey, I enjoy that too.
Starting point is 01:57:28 If I was working from home and I had the ability to watch the Kelly collection show during the day, best believe I would. But I don't. So what channel is it on? Maybe I'll do it for you. I usually just listen to Sports Talk Radio rush or the Lord of the Rings soundtrack No frills delivers get groceries delivered to your door from no frills with pc express Shop online and get 15 in pc optimum points on your first five orders shop now at no frills.ca
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Starting point is 01:58:31 when the the the girl who's the the bassist she in the school band she plays the cello and he's like Here's your he's like teacher. He's like, this is the electric bass. You're gonna play this. It's just like Your instrument that you play, but you just turn it on its side and chill. Oh, you got a bass. Oh, that's a fantastic line. I, I, Jack Black in school rock is like top Jack Black and anything is amazing, but especially in school rock.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Kelly does not like Jack Black. And yeah, I can't believe it. She hates him. So like, I love saving Silverman. So that's great. Orange County. He's amazing. Orange County. So I love all of his like weird movies to like Goalverse travels. Yeah, I will absolutely throw on Goalverse travels and watch it. Shallow Howl. Shallow How shallow how that's, um, I, I love the new Jumanji's with him in it. Like the first, he's great in the Jumanji's dude. He's the only thing pulling those,
Starting point is 01:59:35 pulling those along. Oh yeah. That's, he is the movie, especially the first one he plays that girl. Like it is the best portrayal of that. A adult man has ever done of a teenage girl, like being trapped in their body. It's fantastic. Like that's that, you want to talk about Oscar worthy performances? Like he hits that nail right on the head. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's school. He's his performance in school. Rock is amazing. School is like a, it's a comfort movie. I feel like, you know, like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:00:09 Like that's if you're sick or if you're just kind of like not knowing what to put on and you're just, you know what I mean? It's just one of those movies where you're like, you know what? Yeah. Okay, dude. Oh cool. Like at least for me, it's always like, oh cool. Like school rock is on prime now. Let's just, let's just watch it. And then it goes to now I'm like, Oh, school of rocks is on Netflix. And then I'll watch it. And then like, whenever it switches to the next streaming service, I always watch it. Like as soon as it pops up in the for you, you know, I watch it, I watch it at least once a year. It's such a great movie. The scene where he takes the, uh, when he takes Joe and Qsak, uh, the principal to the,
Starting point is 02:00:49 to the bar and is like playing Stevie Nicks to, to wear. It's a great thing. Sounds like she's singing. You know how much I love Stevie. Stevie's the fucking best. Yeah, dude. That's felt, you know, deviated septums kind of stick together, right, Brainin? Exactly. She gets it. I bet, does Jewel have a deviated septum? I bet she does. Dreams last for so long, even after you're gone.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Dude, that song had a choke hold on pop radio. Oh yeah. When it came out, like my God, I think, how many times a day do you think stations would play it? Eight to 10? Oh yeah. At least? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:35 That was, yeah. That was for years too. Years. At least 10. Yeah. Yeah, cause that was that wouldn't, that was probably 97, 98 when that came out. Yeah. It was still going on in 2007. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Into the mid 2000s they were playing that song. Um, we need to, we need a jewel reviver revival. We gotta bring, we gotta get her back into the site guys here. Did I saw Kate Hudson? Perform. Oh, no, this is disappointing Brandon I saw Kate Hudson perform music Yeah, did you know that she performs music now? Yeah, she's always been a singer. Oh really? Yeah Interesting I was like no shit. Yeah
Starting point is 02:02:29 This is this is very disappointing for me though. What you'll competed on the mask senior That's my least favorite thing in the world. Oh, sorry Brandon Hey, but you know, you're better than that. You'll you're better than that. She might have fallen on hard times, you know, I Needed a paycheck Don't we all? Yeah, she was born in Utah. I didn't know that. And anyways, Brandon, she's a goddamn Mormon. Season two, first five episodes, absolute fire.
Starting point is 02:03:00 I loved it. Like, this is a fantastic show. Everyone should know everyone should watch this show. No notes. I need a poster for my room probably right like a Dawson's Creek poster for my room. Like what do you what do you do? What do you do? What do Dawson heads do? What do Creek heads do? Oh, that's too close to crack heads. I don't know. I like that. Creek heads. Just a couple of Creek heads over here, dude. I, we got, it's, we gotta get, uh, um,
Starting point is 02:03:36 we gotta get like a sign poster though. Oh my, like this, this might be one of the best shows. I still need to like that. CW like this is hands down the best CW show, right? Oh, yeah Mike this is a new bro. No, they tried period They tried so many times to recreate this and they never could like one tree hill trash Chad Chad Michael Murray though Yeah, I saw I saw a thing on cuz I guess a I guess the, a couple of the, the girls from one tree hill are doing, I couldn't tell if it was their own podcast or they were just on somebody else's podcast, but they were talking about, um, the shot that psych took out of with,
Starting point is 02:04:16 uh, um, the, what's his name? The journey, the yin and yang episodes when, uh, no, Mary lightly, right? Yeah. Um, when they find like his tapes and he's like talking to him and he's like, he's like, what the heck is going on with one tree hill? He's like, I think he, I think he calls it a poorly executed Dawson's Creek. And then, uh, and then he's like, don't even get me started on Chad Michael Murray. Too late. Here I go. But so they psyched did that. And then I guess I never watched one tree hill. So I never saw but I guess after that one tree hill wrote into an episode a shot back at psych. Oh, the interview that popped up was the girl, uh, who like delivered the
Starting point is 02:05:05 shot at psych talking about it. And she was like, I always felt weird about that. Cause like, I actually liked psych. It was a weird, it's a weird thing they made me do where they made me bad mouth. That's, I mean, site can do no wrong in my mind. No, especially Mary Lively, Mary Lively. It was, uh, it's up there with scrubs, scrubs and psych are just my top two favorite shows to just start Kelly and I are doing a watch back of scrubs.
Starting point is 02:05:27 The last season is a disaster when ABC took it over, but my God, those first like eight seasons are fantastic. Everything's good. Every janitor. I was never a huge scrubs guy. I need to go rewatch it again, but psych is my all time favorite. The, and I do love, because they had that, the Mary Lightly one where he's like, don't even get me started on Chad Michael Murray. And
Starting point is 02:05:50 then there's another earlier episode, I forget what it is, but Gus and Sean are talking. And Gus, if I can remember the quote exactly, Gus is like, some people are just born evil, Sean, you can't help it. Children of the corn, Chad Michael Murray. They take shots at Chad Michael Murray a couple of times. I love that. I love that so much. Well, Brandon, this is fantastic. I've got to check out my chicken in the crock pot here. I'm gonna look into I'm gonna look into some signed cricket posters here. We also need to we first of all, I'm gonna put this out into the ether. Because I've seen because the karate kid and his other projects he's going on a bunch of podcasts again right now. Joshua Jackson, please come on this podcast. So it'd be amazing. We would love
Starting point is 02:06:43 to talk to you. but also I need, uh, I have a Charlie Conway Jersey that is desperately in need of Joshua Jackson's signature. So if we can make that happen, that would be lovely. He would tell you to just go to Comcast. He doesn't go to those though. He's a lot of the other ducks too, but he doesn't. He's, uh, he's too big, you know, he's too he's too popular. But Connie goes to a bunch of them. I know Banks and Banks, I think Carp goes to a couple of them. Jesse goes to a bunch. We do need to do that. Next, keep an eye out next. The next Colorado ones, uh, we got to, whenever they come to, I don't know if I'll come to Colorado, but if they ever do, we got to hit them up for sure.
Starting point is 02:07:33 But, uh, like Tupac though. No, no, no. Uh, but into the ether, uh, we're, I'm trying, I'm gonna try to manifest Joshua Jackson coming on the pod. I wouldn't even know what to do. Yeah. I'm gonna try to manifest Joshua Jackson coming on the pod. I wouldn't even know what to do. Yeah. You'd be too starstruck. Charlie Conway on the pod. I would probably cry, honestly.
Starting point is 02:07:53 That's it. So So you

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