The Cake Eaters - 13. D1: The Mighty Ducks - Part 1

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

Heath & Brandon finally dive into the original Mighty Ducks movie! Today’s episode goes over minutes 0-19. They discuss the 1973 Minnesota Pee-Wee Hockey State Championship, the long-lasting psy...chological trauma caused by Coach Reilly, how broken our judicial system is, the original poop dollar, and podcast favorite MC Gainey. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod)  Email us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's not worth winning if you can't win! Hello everybody, welcome back to the Cake Eaters podcast. My name is Brandon, I've got my co-host Heath with me. And today is the day everybody's been waiting for. We are starting our journey into the original Mighty Ducks movie. And so how we're kind of going to break it down, because it's a long movie and we have so much to talk about, is we're going to break into a couple of different parts. We're going to break it into five parts. And so that'll roughly be about 20 minutes per part. But there, we cut it up to be kind of go with scene ends instead of like actual minute
Starting point is 00:00:57 markers. So I'll give you guys the, the, the full breakdown right here. So part one, which is today's episode, we're going to be going through the start of the movie through the 19th minute.
Starting point is 00:01:08 And then part two is going to be the 19th minute until about the 42nd minute. Part three is going to be minute 42 to minute 60. And then part four is going to be minute 60 to minute 81. And then the fifth and final part will be the 81st minute until the end of the movie. So then you guys can follow along with us frame by frame now that you have those minute markers down. And so, yeah, five parts going through the original Mighty Ducks movie. And then after that, we'll do a couple special episodes where we kind of deep dive into specific scenarios
Starting point is 00:01:50 and situations that happened in this original movie. You know, I'm pumped. It's what we've all been waiting for, Heath. Electricity is in the air, Brandon. It's like, you know, the way I like to think about our podcast vibe right now is like 98 bulls jazz jordan's final game he's shooting it over byron russell he's giving us his final farewell that is the energy that we have here right now and the cake eaters podcast because
Starting point is 00:02:22 we got the mighty ducks on the docket Brandon I mean how are you feeling I feel fantastic I don't know if I feel exactly like that like like the farewell shot here I feel like the the way you set that up I feel like we're it's like we're getting ready to end the podcast which is not the case oh no I I didn't I didn't mean to set us up to under deliver I was just talking about the excitement that electricity i'm talking marv albert you know you know what this excitement reminds me of heath tax there oh that is what i'm talking about because it's just terry knows it's that extra special feeling of uncomfortable no i'm kidding but you know here we are brandon we are
Starting point is 00:03:08 kicking off it is the mighty ducks are you ready to dig into this man i'm i'm ready i'm ready for the the first 19 minutes of the mighty ducks because there's a there is 19 minutes does not sound like a lot but there is a lot to unpack there's a lot to unpack within the first three minutes within the first like opening credits of of this movie there's so much going on it's just ridiculous to let the listeners know out there it took me almost two hours to watch the first 20 minutes of this movie there was so much happening and i had to catch it all man i was i was ash ketchum from pokemon you know what i mean like i've got to catch them all, man. I was Ash Ketchum from Pokemon. You know what I mean? Like, I've got to catch them all, man.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah, it took me a long time too. I was, first of all, had the subtitles turned on. Didn't want to miss anything. And then I was pausing and rewinding the whole entire time. Yeah, oh, the feature on, I have a Roku TV. So it has the little back 30 seconds button. I've just been, I've been living on that in the pause button while I'm jotting down notes. But anyways, you know, we don't want,
Starting point is 00:04:12 we don't want to get the listeners too much on how the sausage is made. But anyways, let's jump in Brandon because we've got opening credits and nostalgia is just emanating from my pores. Like, I'm not kidding. I was flashing back. The music alone, the music, like the music, the credits, as they come up, the, even like the font and the styling of it kind of took me back. Like I was, I was on first street in Wayne, Nebraska with, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:42 early nineties. We still had like the late eighties, like shag carpet, Brown couches. I may have been in a bean bag, definitely had popcorn with M&Ms in it. If you guys are looking for a movie snack, you better be sprinkling some M&Ms on your popcorn if you're doing it right. So anyways, we got opening credits. Um, I'm so glad you watched it with subtitles on because the announcer for this peewee game, this guy is the real deal. That's a hell of a call. Yeah. And I'm assuming he's a radio announcer, right?
Starting point is 00:05:17 I'm assuming he's a radio announcer. He sounded 100% 90s radio guy. That was the total voiceover. Well, he's 73. That's what I meant yeah the movie is what i say it's what i mean brandon the the movie the movie released in in 90 it was a 91 or 92 was probably 91 uh no 1992 1992 so in that in that aspect 90s radio. The flashback that we have going on for this opening credits is of 1973. The 1973
Starting point is 00:05:50 Minnesota State Pee Wee Championship. It's Duluth versus Edina. The Edina Hawks. We have the Edina Hawks. I don't know if they actually ever mentioned that it's the Edina Hawks um i don't know if they actually ever mentioned that it's the adina
Starting point is 00:06:05 hawks in this movie but in game changers season one they call them the adina hawks yes so we can confirm can confirm so the they're the adina hawks and they're playing duluth duluth east duluth east okay that's a good clarifier duluth east yes and it is it is statewide uh state Minnesota statewide peewee championships yeah and he's I mean we've got a great call because we've got Bombay with the steel Gordon Gordon Bombay Gordon Bombay rocking like he's like 10 I think maybe he looks really small but he's he's you know he's playing he's the star of the Hawks. He steals the puck. I think they're like 10 or 11, 10 or 11, something like that. 10 or 11.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He steals the puck. He's on a breakaway. He's going. He's getting chased down, and then, boom, he is hooked from behind. Whistle blows. We get the call. It's a penalty. Little Gordon.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Bombay. Gordy. Big Gordy. We're number nine, like Gordy. How his namesake. What a great, what a great shout out to that. I actually met Gordy how, when I was working for a minor league hockey team,
Starting point is 00:07:14 he used to play for the Houston arrows hockey team. I worked for. So anyways, I think he little aside. I believe that's, that's when he played for the Houston arrows of the WHA. I believe that was the same time that he was playing with both of his sons. They were also on the Houston arrows. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:07:32 I believe so. Obviously I was not working for, for the arrows then. When I was working for the arrows in the two thousands, Gordie Howe was very retired and very good. Yes. But yeah, he's he, Gordie Howe was amazing. One of good. Yes. Gordie Howe was amazing. One of the best players of all time. And he played... Forever. Yeah, I forget what age he was when he was retired,
Starting point is 00:07:51 but it was close to, if not past 50, when he retired. Yeah. And yeah, he was able to play with both of his sons on the same team. Like good old Ken Griffey Jr. and Ken Griffey Sr. Love to see it it's a beautiful moment yeah it's i mean brandon's uh family corner highly encourages imagine how good
Starting point is 00:08:13 of a parent gordy how was actually i don't know if i want to say that i i you know i don't i don't i don't know anything about gordy howard's parenting styles i don't want to say that and then like look or you know i'll just have someone google it and yeah yeah some crazy shit going on you know how it is nowadays you always anytime anytime you're about to praise somebody you got to google you know their name and then bad stuff just to make sure nothing nothing happened gotta double check yeah anyways let's jump back into the game because we get some, some prime coach Riley showing that he is kind of a sociopathic coach. We jump over, give us the worst pep talk known to man for a 10 year old kid.
Starting point is 00:08:56 This is absurd pep talk, dude. And so he gives this worst pep talk and I don't understand. So the, the way they, the way they set it up. So it's, it's overtime
Starting point is 00:09:05 Tie game, right? I have this in my notes It didn't make any fucking sense Yeah, so it's overtime It's a tie game Bombay steals the fuck, gets tripped Gets a penalty shot So it's tied
Starting point is 00:09:21 Spoiler alert, he misses the penalty shot It should go into double overtime or another overtime. Or penalty shots, shouldn't it? Why do they lose? They lose in overtime. I just don't think they show that. They just don't show it. Yeah, which doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But so they treat Bombay missing the penalty shot as if he lost the game, even though it's still tied. Yes. Okay. See, I wrote that down. I literally put my notes that like wait a second we gotta pause here for a second the game continuity doesn't make any fucking sense like why is this poor kid owning all this but hold on before we get there we have
Starting point is 00:09:59 coach riley's shittiest pep talk ever the shittiest pep talk ever and The shittiest pep talk ever. Do you hear what he says? He says something that I don't know what it means. He's like, what does it mean where he's like, I don't want to see any goats around here after the game. Well, so before before
Starting point is 00:10:19 goat was kind of repackaged into greatest of all time okay in sports situations it used to be used as like a slur like if you messed up you were the goat of the game like that's right it's like a scapegoat essentially like you're the reason they lost you're you're the goat yeah yeah um it's good for goats to get repackaged right yeah now now when you say that it's like people think greatest of all time you know wow i would have ever thought that goats would be the biggest winner of the modern day they used to be negative now they're positive shout out goats yeah we should we gotta tell our our good friends the uh the alpacas there you know we gotta we gotta get alpacas uh branded
Starting point is 00:11:00 into something we gotta we gotta figure out who the the pr team behind the goats is you know we gotta get them on the phone. Exactly. Do you think it's just because they spit that people have beef with alpacas? They just don't appreciate getting spit on? Alpacas are the nicer ones. The llamas are the ones that are fucking spitting on you.
Starting point is 00:11:17 That's why alpacas get bad names. Fucking llamas. Everybody loves the llama because of their name. The name rhymes with shit. It's fun to say say alpacas is a bit of a mouthful that's why we need the pr team we got to read we got to rebrand all right anyways let's get back to riley so that's that's that's the goat but that's the goat that makes sense he's essentially saying i don't fuck this up for me and then he doubles down and he goes if you miss it i'm afraid if he if he says if you miss the shot but he goes to bombay and he goes, you're not just going to let me down.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You're going to let your whole team down too. Yeah. And I put a capital WTF after that quote in my notes because what? And then he also says, yeah, I'm sorry your dad couldn't be here. Like, hey, don't forget your dad died well yeah so that's what that's what the fuck dude that's a little bit later on i forget when that is but yeah they yeah because they they like later on in the movie they flash back to the scene um i think it's right right before the hawks right before they play the hawks it like flashes
Starting point is 00:12:21 back to this and yeah that's when he doubles down and he's he's essentially like i know your dad just died that sucks it would have been would have been a real tight if he was here to see you you know yeah and you know we're we're hawks apologists but man that's rough stuff that's that's pretty rough like you know the announcer is like on his little shoulders you know how you don't motivate a kid is to bring up that their parent just died yeah like the kid's going through some shit it's a high pressure situation i think later later on in the in the movie when when bombay is talking to hans he mentions that that that was the worst year of his life because he missed the penalty shot and his dad died so him is his dad dying is fresh that shit is fresh it's and for coach riley to bring that up right before the penalty shot what a like what a move dude what a move it is absurd you know what i also had in here
Starting point is 00:13:18 that i thought was interesting that i i was curious if it's still happening, how in this first part, the opening credits are breaking up all of this action. So we're getting these scenes cut through with opening credits. I don't remember. Do movies still have opening credits? Like, am I just am I crazy? I just don't remember. I can't like think of modern movies with opening credits, but maybe I'm just maybe i'm just like a fucking idiot i don't know it's not as big as it used to be anymore opening credits because a lot of disney movies old westerns old westerns have long opening credits yeah it's and like nowadays ever since um like the mid-2000s the the whole the huge like even in like tv shows movies all that kind of
Starting point is 00:14:06 stuff the the huge um trend i guess is the cold open where you use where you start with you start with action right away and then there's like a brief like title scene that's that's you that's usually what things movies and tv shows do now um because they want to grab your attention right away where it's just like boom we got something going on and then here's the movie instead of the elongated opening credits which I don't know I don't mind it this one wasn't bad
Starting point is 00:14:35 when they just take forever if it's just music and opening credits like the old westerns you mentioned they're usually just like shots of the main character riding on a horse. And then it's just credit, credit, credit. That's a little boring. This, you had the, you had, yeah, you had intermixed.
Starting point is 00:14:50 You had the radio guys call, even while the game wasn't showing and it was just the credits, you still had the radio announcer call going. So there was some action. And it drew you in. And I like that. And so after the pep talk, I love it too. You get the classic coach riley all right like like i feel like that's one of those things where like you could just see a picture of coach riley in hawks gear and you could hear him saying all right and like popping
Starting point is 00:15:17 his collar you know oh i love the fucking i have the whole'll, we'll get into coach Riley on the bench because he is a piece of work on that bench, man. Um, I absolutely love it. And so it's, it's rocking and rolling and here it comes. We've got little Gordy. He's jumping in there. We got the one, we got the two, we got the three. And what do we brandon triple deke baby oh fuck yeah oh it felt good yeah it's great seeing it yeah classic move and it's you know to see it from the the master to the master of the triple deke bombay like what charlie does it it's cool but you know it's to see bombay do it is you know and even though we missed it just a little bit right, he's still the master. I think he missed it left.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Did he miss it left? Yeah, missed it left. Either way. The goalie's right. Bombay's left. There we go. And hits off the post. He drops down.
Starting point is 00:16:19 This is actually in my notes. This is the most depressing shot I've ever seen in my entire life, where he's on his knees, little 9-yearold ten-year-old gordon monbe on his knees with just with the fucking spotlight on him and he's just like sitting there sad this is this is where i wrote my notes though where i was like wait a second i'm confused like that that was his chance to win the game it should be it should be tied it's still tied it's's still tied. It's still tied. Like it's, but anyways, somehow they won off of this miss. I don't know. And, and on top of that,
Starting point is 00:16:53 did you see coach Riley like look down and disgust? He like, Oh yeah. He just couldn't even look at little Gordon. Couldn't handle it. Man. Either anyways, that's the, that's our opening scene yeah that's how that's how we kick it off there i mean the emotions are running so high right now because of that opening scene that's a great job yeah oh it's fantastic that's a great way to bring it underscored by the music was you knowbumps all around For sure and now So post
Starting point is 00:17:27 Opening credits you got anything else for the opening Credits No I think that was it It's just beautiful It was such a great way to start It like sets the tone perfectly For his behavior In this next scene
Starting point is 00:17:44 Because next up it's courtroom time. We have Bombay. So the opening game scene 1973 PBC Championships. Now we cut to present day, which is 1992. So we get adult
Starting point is 00:17:59 Gordon Bombay. Lawyer style. Lawyer. He's ready. He's up there. He is up there. He is grilling an old lady. Did you see that? This is an old lady. I did not notice that until this
Starting point is 00:18:14 recent watch. I never noticed it before. And then it pans. So he's grilling the old lady and then the other lawyer objects and he goes back to the bench. And while he's walking back to the bench, it cuts to the rest of the courtroom and everybody that is on the the uh plaintiff's side um because bombay's he's defending uh he's the defendant lawyer so everybody on the plaintiff's side is just it's just row after row of old people it's like a retirement home i'm yeah i'm assuming
Starting point is 00:18:43 this the guy that bombay is defending like just fucked over a bunch of old people yeah i'm assuming he ripped him off like like some kind of ponzi scheme yeah exactly that's it that's it like any adult watching this movie it's like oh yeah that guy sucks he just he swindled a whole bunch of old people out of their retirement yeah i never noticed that before though before no it's a great there's so many like super super subtle adult like nods and winks in this movie i was really surprised going back like your boy mc gaming oh dude grand funk railroad did he oh okay we'll get there don't even get me started. I'm going to funk you up just a little bit here. So before we get too carried away. So he is, yeah, so he's grilling this old lady.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He says something about like his defendant was only trying to protect everybody from her greed. Yes, yes. The old lady's greed. He put my client put his neck on the line for your greed yeah and so that's when the other lawyer objects and then the the judge calls him to the bench but bombay is like bombay is like i'm gonna stall so he goes over to his his client and he's like what's he say he's like i'm just i don't really have anything to say to you i'm just over here to keep him waiting yeah he hates it. Something like that. Yeah, he's like,
Starting point is 00:20:05 drives him crazy. That's what it is. Drives him crazy. And he's like, please go be my lawyer. Okay. So he goes up to the
Starting point is 00:20:21 bench. The stand. That's bench. The stand. The stand. Goes up to the stand. That's right. Thank you. He goes up to the stand with the other lawyer, and they're talking to the judge. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Do you remember what he says to the lawyer? Because it's a great lawyer burn. Oh, he says it's the same tie you wore yesterday? Yeah, nice tie, Frank. You wore that yesterday, didn't you? Oh, lawyer burn. There's a couple scenes later on with that same lawyer wearing the same tie. He wore the same tie again. I didn't you there's a couple there's a couple scenes later on with that same lawyer wearing the same tie he wore the same tie again i didn't notice that but so yeah he does that to
Starting point is 00:20:51 the he burns the the other lawyer with the tie joke and then he starts talking to the judge because the judge is like you need to like we need relevant cross-examination yeah and then bombay spouts now so i'm not'm not a lawyer. I put bird law. Excellent bird law. What Bombay says to the judge sounds like fucking gobbledygook nonsense. So what he says is I haven't written down because I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? He just put bird law again. So the judge is like, you can't.
Starting point is 00:21:21 We need relevant cross-examination. You can't just ask him whatever you want or whatever. And Bombay goes, he's the exact line. He goes, we all know the applicability of societal intent vis-a-vis individual action is well established. What? What does that mean? The applicability of societal intent vis-a-vis individual action is well established. Now, I'm not a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Maybe this actually makes sense, and I'm just an idiot, but this confused the fuck out of me. It sounds like they just threw a bunch of lawyer words in there and were like, that's fine. That'll be good. That's why I went straight to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Charlie Day, Bird Law. So then he brings it around. He goes...
Starting point is 00:22:20 Just rubbed his face in it. Just bald as brass. After he says the fucking gobbledygook nonsense he goes now i'm citing higgins v or minnesota v higgins which is a case that the got overturned they overruled the judge in appellate court i think is what he says yeah and then he goes if i remember correctly that was your case right to the to the judge and so then the judge gets all scared because he doesn't want to be overturned again and he's like and then he lets bombay do whatever the fuck he wants just bold as brass like rubbing his nose in it yeah well so so then it's so then it cuts to them the the two bombay and the other lawyer leaving the courtroom and you can see the so they're walking down the stairs
Starting point is 00:23:00 yelling at each other and in the background you can see a couple of the old ladies like glare. Yes. He's like, you really stooped to an all time low with this one, Bombay. Yeah. He's like, I'm insulted, Frank. You have no idea how low I can stoop. Yes. And then that W baby.
Starting point is 00:23:19 My favorite. Yeah. He's like, you got to go for the W. And then my favorite thing is. So the other lawyers that complain and he's like, I don't mind losing the W. And then my favorite thing is, so the other lawyers like complain. And he's like, I don't mind losing. I would just like to lose fairly. And then he starts going to Bombay. And he's like, that guy, he's like, I think he says like, what about justice?
Starting point is 00:23:35 That guy should be in jail. And Bombay yells at him. He yells at him and he goes, and it's your job to put him there. Don't get, yeah, don't get mad at me, which I did my job. Like, you know, you know what I put? I was like, Bombay was correct in his assessment, but it is an indictment on the American justice system that that's what it's up to. You know, like, that's what it depends on. Like, if if your lawyer sucks sucks you will see no justice if the
Starting point is 00:24:05 other person can find some loophole and i love like they set bombay up as like the lawyer so well because then he ends and he's like next time do your job frankie boy i love him calling him frankie boy what a great oh just totally talking down to him and so that that kind of ends the courtroom scene there but oh my word oh so then it goes to so bombay's back at his law office he's walking in office ducksworth savor and gross i think is the the full i think okay duckworks yeah but yeah ducksworth and so he's walking in with the the secretary and he's all he's like undefeated again uh and then the secretary brings up the fact that he lost one case and he goes yeah yeah but we don't count that and she goes and why don't we count that bombay and he goes because i scored with the court reporter
Starting point is 00:24:59 hell yes so i have a question for you brand, because we have gone in depth on this podcast about Bombay, the player that we know he is. And this was a mom was was the court reporter a mom? Because this is a little bit younger. Did he start his affinity for the moms? I don't think the mom affinity started until Charlie's mom. I think that's what kicked it off. You think that's what kicked it off? Okay, that makes sense. But we don't know. We don't ever get any confirmation if the court reporter is a mom or not. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:34 But, you know, hey, that's not a bad win. There's that, and then there is another scene later on in the movie where Coach Riley is talking to Bombay and Bombay is like, oh yeah, I'm coaching district five now. And Riley goes, he goes, oh, do you got a, you got a kid on the team or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:57 There's so, there's so many like little between the court reporter scoring with the court reporter or Riley's line. There's a couple like, like digs at bombay being a player yeah that i i same with the old lady thing i didn't notice until this last watch around you know yeah these watching this back as an adult and really breaking it down is opening my eyes up to a lot of really great subtle humor oh the other thing the the other thing oh shoot the other so the other thing so they're he's talking to the secretary and he's like we don't count that one because i scored with the court reporter and then i believe his next line is uh she had an
Starting point is 00:26:37 intelligent body i think is what he says about the court no that's what the that's what genie says she's like is that the one that you said had an intelligent body that's right okay yes yeah genie's great i love genie she's sharp as a tack you know yeah she gives bombay the business and he does he deserves yes yes shout out genie yeah genie just kills it i like jane too the jane's great the fresh out of law school did you like where he turns and asks her no calls on the duck phone? Yeah. I saw him in there. He was in the back room.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And then they also set up his hate for hockey because Jeannie's like, so-and-so dropped off some seats for the North Stars game. And I always forget that they moved the North Stars from Minnesota down to Dallas. And then didn't Dallas win a championship after they moved the north stars from minnesota down to dallas and and then didn't dallas win a championship after they moved down there a couple years yeah a couple of years after they moved yeah yeah with mike madonna brett hall uh eddie belfort i believe was the goalie so they moved 1993 i think so like the North Stars moved legitimately right after this movie, like a year after this movie. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:49 They moved to Dallas and then they won the Stanley Cup in like 98, 99, something like that. This is a little bit further after. I used to actually work in the Stars arena in like the practice arena, like up north in Frisco it's north of dallas and frisco and people would learn the times i think that's where they're that's where their their minor league affiliate is now is up in frisco yeah it's the tornadoes and then the mavericks uh minor league team that's who i was working for they're not they're not the tornadoes
Starting point is 00:28:22 anymore oh they're not but the legends play there too texas stars i believe is their name oh nice well either way people would line up on the way in and out of the arena and um it was just really awkward to walk through these people when i was trying to work and like trying to go get a beer and a shot at lunch like we were calling we were doing cold call sales out of a phone book you know like it was it was rough it was rough biz you know we were just getting kickstarted and like, you know, just. God forbid those people just wait outside my place of work. Yeah, dude, get the fuck out of my way, man. Like, I don't want to see you and your fat kids.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I'm kidding. That wasn't very nice. But it was really awkward and uncomfortable. Yeah. Anyways. So, yeah. He's got hockey blows raspberry. That's why I always love
Starting point is 00:29:05 Subtitles for little things like that I always forget when you're like You know when you do that it's called a raspberry Like that's I don't know I always thought raspberry was when you did it On like someone's Like stomach like you blow a raspberry
Starting point is 00:29:21 That's what I thought but they said blow a raspberry So maybe it's just when you make that noise. Okay. Good to know. Shout out subtitles. So that's when Jane comes in and Jane's got stacks of files for, for another case. Yeah. Jeannie's giving him the business.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yep. About 30 and one. Yeah. Yeah. He tells Jane I'm reveling in my 30 and O record. And Jeannie's like not not 30-1, sir. Even though you fucked that court reporter, you know, still counts, sir. Still counts. Still counts. A loss is a loss.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And he's kind of mean. He's like Jeannie type don't speak. Yeah, real rough. Well, he's mean to Jeannie. I think that was like, because she gives Jeannie. I think that was... She gives it back. I think that was more of the fun. But he's a fucking dick to Jane. Yeah, he's not about Jane.
Starting point is 00:30:11 That comes back around. But he gets the call from Duckworth. And I love what he does here. He's like, nice, thank you very much, Mr. Duckworth. Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. Because that comes back later in the movie yeah like when he starts quacking yeah that's where the quack quack quack things yeah that's
Starting point is 00:30:31 that's absolutely oh man i just i got so fired up when he did that it's it's a great it's a great moment he does it like in this scene and then delivers when he does it to he does it to mr ducksworth later on in the movie he does it like such such does it to Mr. Duxworth later on in the movie, he does it like such, such a like condescending fucking like smarky, like asshole way. I love it. Yeah. Quack,
Starting point is 00:30:51 quack, quack, quack, quack, Mr. Duxworth. Yeah. And like such a shitty way.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And then, and then like, he goes in there and Mr. Duxworth is like, he's like, Oh yeah, the wind, whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:00 He's like, Hey, Bombay score. Don't spike. Like, you know, like. He's like, hey, Bombay, score. Don't spike. Like, you know, like, very subtly scolding him for being so arrogant
Starting point is 00:31:09 about the way he operates in the courtroom. And he's just, like, not picking up on it at all. Like, Bombay is not picking up what he's putting down. Then it's a hard cut after he lays into him. Hard cut to Bombay's car, which i was trying to
Starting point is 00:31:25 figure out i was trying to figure out what kind of car it was and i couldn't um it looked like some maybe like a miata or something like yeah that's like real like real budget sports car you know something really not made for the streets of minnesota in the snow i have that in my like no like number one you're driving drunk but number two that car in the snow and those are snow-packed streets like yeah that's not something that you're driving that fucking car fast in like no wonder you're swerving everywhere got you know like spoiler alert got reckless in danger you know what i mean like dude that is like we are both from winter weather states like we like as soon as we see stuff like that it's like oh dude you're gonna kill everyone you're gonna get stuck
Starting point is 00:32:11 and that fucking bastard is gonna like just clang up the interstate we've seen it before yeah i i luckily now and towards the end of my tenure i mean now it doesn't make that much difference it doesn't snow in atlanta but towards the end of my tenure in denver i had uh an all-wheel drive suv but before that uh for the longest time i had like little like two-wheel drive sedans oh boy shit was rough i yeah i would yeah i would there was one time i was like driving i one time i used to work at dick sporting goods shout out dick sporting goods um one of the worst places I've ever worked just shout out garbage they're gonna love that yeah yeah hey sponsor us um but I remember because it was like a real uh popular mall uh just outside of uh Broomfield Colorado uh so like just south
Starting point is 00:33:04 of Boulder. And I was driving there. I had to drive on the highway to get to work for my place. And I worked in the, like, I worked the winter months because they were, you know, hiring staff for the Christmas rush or whatever. Yeah. And I was driving and I had my 2005 Buick Century driving two-wheel, I think it was front-wheel drive, which is like the worst thing you could ever have in the fucking snow. And I was driving on the highway and legitimately – and I was not drunk like Bombay. I would never drink and drive.
Starting point is 00:33:44 But like spun out, like spun out like spun out like a complete like what's what's 360 times two cookie oh i don't know wait uh 720 complete like 720 and came like inches inches away from smacking the median thank god it was like because because it was christmas rush so i was going in for like an early morning shift it was real early in the morning nobody was on the road thank god it was just me just like a fucking complete like 720 spin just miss miss the median you can't you can't mess around with those fucking those those sedans those fucking bullshit budget sports cars that bombay's driving in the snow dude it's and especially when you when you factor in the the booze on top of it. And not only is he drinking and driving, he's like the asshole who's drinking like legitimately while he's driving and just throwing the open container bottle in the backseat.
Starting point is 00:34:34 What the fuck, Bombay? Like what a psycho. Also, did you see his license plate? Just when? Just when license plate? I was just asking for trouble, man. That was the great hard cut because you had Duxworth being like, don't be an asshole when you win. Like win with grace and then hard cut to his license plate. Just win.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And tires just screeching, just driving like a lunatic in the snow. He's swerving all over the place. And so all of a sudden we see it. We hear it. Yes. Yep. he's swerving all over the place and so all of a sudden we see it we hear it yes yep yep that noise that makes your stomach fall through the bottom of your intestines but bombay keeps driving he doesn't stop he keeps driving to the point where the cop has to pull up alongside of him and yell at him pull over pull over and then i i love this part is that the cop he rolls down the window for the cop and the music is blaring just as loud as it was when he was just driving
Starting point is 00:35:37 all over the place and he's like i guess it was a whittle noisy yeah so good so good it's great and so the cop knows like instantly because he's swerving all over the place it has to smell like oh yeah you're everywhere he has multiple open beer bottles in his yeah in his car he was swerving his license plate says just win yeah you're coming up there's no way this guy's not an alcoholic. There's no way this guy's not an alcoholic. And did you like what the cop said too? He's like, I'm taking you down to the precinct. Do you want breath, blood, or urine, and then Bombay?
Starting point is 00:36:14 No thanks. I'm full. I just put, oh, the balls. Classic Bombay. In Game Changers, he does it a lot where he makes a stupid deck and then he laughs at himself that's what he exactly what he does here he goes no thanks i'm full and then just starts laughing to himself like not the time for that kind of joke
Starting point is 00:36:34 for sure and and so i love that right after that happens when the cop tells him to get out of the car we cut scene to the courtroom. Yeah, his court date, which is like, that's a real quick court date for a DUI, right? I don't think you usually do it right after. I think that they must have held a special prosecutor's hearing or something.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's the same judge and the same lawyer as this one. What are the fucking chances? The judge said I got called in to are the fucking chances you know well the judge said the judge said i got called in and i had to think i almost stayed home this morning yeah yeah because now now they're now after bombay was a fucking dick to both of them during the first year and now they're loving it they're like here you know karma karma rearing his hair relishing where where frank's wearing the same tie though same tie he's wearing the same tie
Starting point is 00:37:26 the judge looks like a kid on christmas yeah that he has that joy in his eyes and that smile that is from ear to ear you know like he just opened up the full set of ninja turtle action figures it's like 92 he's. He's got all four. Maybe Splinter. Maybe Shredder and a foot soldier. I may or may not be speaking from experience of one of the dopest Christmases ever. I wish I could. I miss Christmas as a kid.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I miss toys. Yeah. Christmas as a kid was pretty tight. Oh, so tight. Anyways, and that's what the judge says I stayed home like Do you remember what he says about Bombay's license too
Starting point is 00:38:11 12 moving violations in 3 years Right you know what it is That's a lot That is a lot Like how do you still have a license It's just because he's such a Shithead lawyer That is a lot For 3 years do you still have a license it's just because he's such a head lawyer that's the only way he's
Starting point is 00:38:25 done that is a lot for three years like yeah that's that's that's four a year and so that's that's one every quarter yeah like that is absurd like it just i i can't i can't believe that oh and for those of you at home that's uh just traffic tickets, speeding tickets, like whatever. Yeah, moving violations is, yeah, speeding ticket. Even like running a stoplight. Running a stoplight. It's just a traffic violation. A legal turn.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah. Any of that stuff. But usually, I don't know about Minnesota in the early 90s, but usually it's based on like a points system. So like you have like say you have like 12 points on your license like a speeding ticket depending on the severity of it would be like three points or two points or if you're like crazy speeding sometimes it'd be like five points you know yeah if you're going like 40 or 50 over yeah and then once you run out of points your
Starting point is 00:39:21 license is suspended um you gotta like retake courses to get it back. Yes. So I don't know how Minnesota in the early 90s was. Maybe he just fucking Bombay sweet talked his way out of it. Just sleeping with court reporter after court reporter to get out of the suspension of license. 100%. Not going to happen this time. Frank's not going to let it happen.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh, got to go for the w right gordo yeah yeah the judge the judge says the judge says because bombay is like okay let's cut to the point what what's going to happen here suspension of license fines and the judge goes yep all of that unless the da uh wants to uh like bargain plead to lesser charges which is i'm assuming that's how he got out of the other ones is he just like pled to lesser charges. Yeah. But yeah, Frank, Frankie, Frankie boy's not having it. He's he's going for the W. He's going for the kill.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I love it. And then the defendant is released on his own cognizance. Recon, recognizance, recognizance. Something like that. I think either way, I think we all mess. We both messed it up multiple times there, I think, but whatever. think but whatever either way essentially yeah he's he's free to walk um but he's you know he's and so so then is that when it cuts right to him at night in the lawyer
Starting point is 00:40:34 yeah he's back in the he's back in the office um taking notes by lamplight mr Mr. Duxworth. He's trying to find a fucking loophole for his D. Once again, I was in my word. And it goes back to like Coach Riley. That experience had such a crazy impact. So, you know, if you're a coach out there, and same thing for Brandon's Parenting Corner, you better listen up. Your words have impact and meaning. And you help create 40-year-old alcoholic lawyers that can't stop winning.
Starting point is 00:41:14 He's probably like 29, 28 in this. Maybe 30. Maybe I just wanted him to be older because I don't want him to be younger than me in this movie, Brandon. That means I'm old. Because 73 was the Pee Wee Championship and he was, we'll say 10, right? 10 I think is what we're going with for how old they are. Maybe 10 or 11.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And this would be 1992. So like 30? 31? Well, you'd add 9 years, so he'd be or not 9 years, 19 years. So he'd be like 29, 30, something like that all right well shit he is younger than me in this movie and that makes me feel old so yeah he's a he's a decorated lawyer wow well i haven't done shit how many how many how many court reporters have you slept with he's huh none you know i don't i don't have a i don't have a
Starting point is 00:42:04 court reporter on on the notch on my bed yeah well you're doing something wrong he's doing something wrong so anyways get on bombay's level i could never get on bombay's level i don't have that kind of game with the moms um but we got ducksworth and i still can't believe bombay is like gearing up to fight and ducksworth just shuts him down and he's like like, all right, cut the shit, dude. Like enough. You're not going to drag this company's good name through the mud. You're going to plead guilty.
Starting point is 00:42:35 He's just so dead set on winning, on beating this. I'm not letting Frankie Boy get the best of him. I'm not going to let him beat me. He's after my throat. Yeah. It's like he said, the coaches best of him. He's after my throat. Yeah. It's like he said, the coaches and the parents, I think we talked about this
Starting point is 00:42:49 with Sophie from Game Changers in the last episode. When she gets, when she's actually hurt, and everybody's, even her parents are telling her, no, you can't play. And she's sitting there like, you motherfuckers told me to win at all costs, and now you don't want me to play like that kind of pressure and that kind of mentality
Starting point is 00:43:09 you can't unlearn no without some serious work yeah and like that's what like bomb like i literally put like dude all that winning all that like he's gonna need therapy like and that and that goes back to it too like duckworth is forcing him to take a break like have you ever seen that meme that's on instagram where it's like maybe if i never take my time off and i work through my lunches and it's someone slowly putting clown makeup on and if i never use my pto or sick time the company will appreciate and promote me and then by the end they just are in clown makeup like use your fucking time off man don't be like bombay don't win at all costs
Starting point is 00:43:51 use your time off stay fresh and then you'll keep your job for longer yeah you know but anyway so there um he wants him to go he's gonna do community service yeah so So the judge made him do community service probation suspension. Yeah. And I'm sure there was a fine in there as well. Yeah. And then Duxworth says my stipulation is you take a leave of absence from the firm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah. Which he wants to learn compassion and fair play. What they should have done is they should have made some fucking therapy. Well, I guess the 90s nobody did. Nobody cared about therapy in the 90s but he should have he should have got a therapy for sure yeah or an aa meeting something yeah something dude needs to talk his issues out because he's still reliving trauma of his dad dying and his coach sociopath coach like like mentally manipulating him and psychologically torturing him as a small kid like man anyways we will get into that in a different episode but poor bombay like he needs to go talk to somebody we talk about that a lot on the podcast like kids go talk to
Starting point is 00:44:59 somebody man yeah it's talk it out it's good for you it's good for you. But he honestly gets a pretty fucking good deal. So they're keeping him on retainer and he gets a limo. Duxworth says, you have to take a leave of absence, but you're a crazy good lawyer. And I think
Starting point is 00:45:19 Duxworth says, learning compassion through community service is going to make you a better lawyer. Compassion and fair play. A to make you a better lawyer yeah so i'm gonna shoot him fair play it's a better person a better lawyer so he's gonna keep him on salary during his leave of absence so he's not getting any pay doc which what a fucking deal especially in the early 90s nobody's nobody's paying you for a leave of absence yeah that's crazy and giving you a limo, he's giving him a company paid limo to transport him around while his license is suspended. And that's where we get my boy, MC Ganey. Yeah, because here we go. We're cutting over to where in the limo, I literally have in my notes, your boy up here,c gainey um and his quote to start it off is in the 70s i drove the tour bus for
Starting point is 00:46:09 grand funk railroad god i bet that was dope well then then he doubles down and i forget if he says something in between that and this but then he starts talking about he's like i i don't regret anything except the 80s yeah he's like that was the life man the chicks the parties that's right amps cranked up to about a bajillion decibels but it was uh the music was so loud they said it damaged my hearing but i have no regrets though except for the 80s dude he just stole the show right there he really did he really did he crushes it dude he's so and oh it's so funny so i i gotta believe there's extra scenes in this movie where he is more involved with the team because he's he's he's in the limo throughout the movie he's driving the limo and you see him um i think so I think it's just the championship game.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'm trying to remember. He's like running on the ice with them. He's always in the bench. I think he's not always on the bench. He's on the bench for the championship game, though, for sure. Which that leads me to believe. And he's got his own fucking jersey that he's wearing on the bench in the championship game. That leads me to believe that he was more involved than the
Starting point is 00:47:25 final cut of the movie like there was there's there's got to be some scenes where he's at he's helping at practice or doing something you know you would figure because it's like literally just the the um the limo scenes there's one scene i forget exactly what scene it is but there's a scene where he's like running around with them on the ice or something and then he's on the bench for the championship game and it's like why why is the fucking limo driver on the bench of the champ for the championship game if he if he wasn't more involved you know like it was just such a weird thing to see him randomly pop up on the bench so i gotta believe there's more scenes with mc gainey like with the kids or at practice or, and then they just got cut, but yeah, you gotta love MC Ganey. My favorite is, and we can, we'll talk about it later,
Starting point is 00:48:11 but my favorite favorite is when he's dangling Peter upside down. Yeah. Well, Peter's eating his bag of candy. We'll talk about that later. We'll get into that. As someone who's very sensitive about candy. He's just got a bag of candy in his glove box. I love candy. So we'll get into that. We'll get into that as someone who's very sensitive about he's got a he's just got a bag of candy in his glove box dude i love candy so we'll get into that we'll get into that so but and so it just kind of ends with like bomb baby and super pissed and mumbling to himself and then mc gamey um i can't remember what his name is in the show oh lewis his name's lewis in the movie and um lewis is just like cracking up to himself because he's just like oh god this fucking lawyer
Starting point is 00:48:44 what a prick you know like just cracking up to himself because he's just like, oh, God, this fucking lawyer. What a prick. You know, like just cracking up to himself as he's talking. And then it cut scenes from the limo to a part of the movie that I always forget is a part of this movie. And it's our boy Carp all up in the dumpster. Oh, the poop dollar, dude. Yeah, dude. The original poop dollar. I was going to ask, do you think this is the first? Because it's i'm the original poop dollar i was i was gonna ask do you think this
Starting point is 00:49:05 is the first the first because it's obviously not the original but somebody did the poop dollar before this but do you think that this is the first time the poop dollar was captured on film i honestly think so because like i feel like this is where the poop dollar hit mainstream yeah like that was more of like an underground type of joke that you and your boys would do you know like maybe on one of the side streets yeah maybe an alley or something but uh this this is where the poop dollar became yeah i i have to i have to believe it's the first poop dollar captured on film and if anybody has uh confirmation one way or the other um please send it our way i would love to I would love to figure that out.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And so Carp finds a purse. He's super excited. But as he's hopping... He's dumpster diving. He's dumpster diving. So I have the subtitles on and did you hear what Averyman says when he comes out? Yes. Yes. I was just about to get into it. Dumpster Dave
Starting point is 00:50:02 comes through. It's lovely, Carp. It goes with your eyes. I love that he calls into it dumpster Dave comes through it's lovely carpet goes with your eyes yeah I love that he calls him dumpster Dave which I never crushes this I never realized I never realized carp uh carp's first name was Dave yeah I
Starting point is 00:50:17 Dave carp I totally well I think I think it's I think his last name is carp men isn't it yeah it's called carp for short yeah like yeah Dave Cartman yeah I I think his last name is Karp Men, isn't it? Yeah, it's Karp. Dave Karpman. Yeah, I was... Oh, wait, no, never mind. The credits say just Karp. Dave Karp.
Starting point is 00:50:35 There you go. My bad. But anyways, yeah, Averman is hilarious throughout this first chunk of the movie. And then Pio starts... Oh, he's... I got a lot of averman thoughts uh when we get to the first practice uh oh he crushes it oh yeah i've got it perfectly quoted
Starting point is 00:50:53 i'm gonna i'm gonna make you let me read it through okay okay so stay tuned um but yeah so then so then peter is like fucking with Carp and being like, you're going to let Averman talk shit like that? And then Carp's like, yeah, I'm going to beat your ass. Peter does that multiple times in the movie where somebody makes fun of Carp and Carp is just like so nonchalant to it at first until Peter's like, are you going to let them do that? And then Carp freaks out.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Dude,eter is the worst peter fucking sucks dude peter's fucking guy he has small guy syndrome and he's an instigator and his outfits are so fucking lame they're just so 90s they're so the outfits in this in this whole movie are fucking amazing they're so good except yeah peter peter peter fucking sucks peter sucks wow all right so so peter is your new cube right now no no no no no i'm just not i i liked cube the character he just he was the terrible goalie for the first fucking uh eight episodes um peter as a character sucks he's i i don't and i i honestly don't know how good peter is at hockey because i don't think they ever show him playing hockey no he's just he's riding the pine he's got that short man
Starting point is 00:52:10 syndrome he's fine but then charlie comes running in we get charlie with a can of chili yeah oh yeah yeah and then and then carp carp whistles for pd the stray dog and they feed him the chili like this is great right like they're feeding they feed the dog the chili and then they're following him around with the purse and they're waiting for him to take a shit so so it's 1992 these kids are 10 years old and they are wandering around the streets of downtown minneapolis yeah dumpster diving dumpster diving they're the stores they're walking by in that scene where they're following the dog They're walking by a billiard and cigarette hall They walk by Like a weird
Starting point is 00:52:50 It was like a tarot Fortune reader or some kind of store The 90s were the best These were tough because we had to be You were either tough or you died But yeah just wandering around the mean streets of minneapolis all by themselves in the in the winter oh god and i did you wait hold on before we like when they were following the dog around did you we both have dogs did you have like flashbacks to dog walks of like just waiting
Starting point is 00:53:21 for for flapjack to take a dump because jenkins is the worst like he'll he'll sniff like every piece of grass in the entire apartment complex and he'll like fake you out while he's doing it he'll like like you'll like pull the poop bag out like you'll get gearing up and he'll like sniff something and it'll be off and he'll be like nope and then it'll be another fucking 20 minutes of sniffing around and he'll be like kind of like every time he has to find like the most exact perfect spot it just it's fine you know he's a dog and i want to give him that space but it really drives me fucking nuts flapjack flapjack is the fucking worst out of dude the really drives me fucking crazy because he's he's very i don't know what the proper term is
Starting point is 00:54:04 but he gets distracted real easy. So if I, and I don't have like, I don't have a backyard I can let him out into. So I have to take him out, out front. And so I take him out front and there's two. So there's,
Starting point is 00:54:15 so he, he just gets real distracted, real easy to where if something catches his attention, he completely forgets that he has to go to the bathroom, you know? So like, well, I'll go outside, he'll pee. And then he'll be like getting ready to go to the bathroom you know so like well i'll go outside
Starting point is 00:54:25 he'll pee and then he'll be like getting ready to go to take a dump or whatever and you know a neighbor will come out or there's like two stray cats that are roaming around our neighborhood so they'll pop up and he'll get distracted there and then just completely forget that he has to go to the bathroom and it's like so we're sitting out there for like 30 minutes and it's like motherfucker go to the goddamn bathroom and i can't i might i'm sure my neighbors hate me because there's been countless times where i'm just sitting out front and i'm like yelling at him like flapjack go to the fucking bathroom dude i love it i love it i knew this i knew this might trigger that's why i brought it up i love flapjack though he's he's he's he's an asshole but he's he's he's good he's oh
Starting point is 00:55:05 yeah and like he's my asshole you and you don't like you get frustrated because it's just like come on dude but like you know like they gotta work it out just like 90 force a good thing 90 of it is uh is my fault 90 of it is 100 my fault because so great great man the the reason i usually the what leads to me like yelling at him to go to the bathroom is because i timed my morning terribly and i'm like i need to be doing something like i need to like hop on a work meeting or i need to like you know log in and send an email in like those guys in like five minutes and i just like for whatever reason didn't think to take him out until that moment and so then it's like come on dude i got i have something i need to fucking do you need to go to the bathroom you know uh i love it so we've got the
Starting point is 00:55:55 origination of the poop dollar the kids are carrying the purse back down the street it's it they're holding it out it's it's kind of a funny scene as they're like taking their nose so they put it out they stick the dollar bill kind of facing out of the purse so they behind the car they leave this in the weirdest spot i think and they leave it in a weird spot and the fact that the guy who sees it and even saw it in the first place is astonishing yeah but not only does he stop to pick it up, he just quickly grabs the purse, looks around, hops back in the car. And the kids make the mistake of because he takes off. And so the kids go running out and then he throws it and they burst out laughing and he sees them in his rearview mirror. Yes. Yeah. So, yeah. So they drop it on the side of a road on like a snow
Starting point is 00:56:47 little bank yeah um and the dude's driving and he's driving like a like a crazy like uh it's like a red i forget what car it was but it's like a red like shitty little sports car he's driving and he's i don't know how he sees it on the side so he stops he goes he picks up the dog he picks up the purse puts the dollar back in the purse closes the purse and then what like walks around gets in his car and starts to leave and he makes it a couple feet like yeah he starts driving and then you you he i guess they don't show this but he he opens the purse i guess he sees that it's just a purse of shit and then he whips it out the window whips it out the window and that's when they like wander out and they're
Starting point is 00:57:29 like oh my well i think pete doesn't peter because they were expecting like oh my god he's taking off with it yeah they were expecting him to open it right away yeah and be like oh shit they thought they would like keep their dollar because he would just be like oh oh my god there's dog shit in this purse it smells like they were holding it out because it smelled so bad yeah so they so they were expecting him to just like open it throw it and then run away but he brings it into his car and then whips it out the window and so their car yeah carp says i are peter says this guy gets what he fucking deserves yeah he doesn't say fucking but um i can't believe that he whips it around and starts chasing them and then not only starts chasing them jumps out of this car to chase them on foot through like back alleys and construction sites like what what is the point
Starting point is 00:58:19 of this in this movie like it's so fucking stupid uh and and the for the chase for the chase scene they speed it up so it's like that comical like 90s like everything and then they got the sound i know i was a little disappointed they didn't play like yakety sax in the background you know oh my god and then and then it's super 90s too because he slips on the board and then he racks himself yeah and and then and then falls over into some mud. Yeah. And then the kids celebrate on the rooftop. And I had,
Starting point is 00:58:49 I pointed out he had this like massive gold chain. Did you notice that? So he was wearing, he was a massive gold chain. He had a, like a John, a Tam's and like a giant, like puffy jacket.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And then I believe, so I couldn't quite see, but I believe he was wearing like a, like auffy jacket and then i believe so i couldn't quite see but i believe he was wearing like a uh like a los angeles raiders hat um like the the black and silver um like baseball cap for the raiders yeah well in 92 when yeah they would have been los angeles then right i forget exactly when they were los angeles versus oakland yeah i can't remember i just i just noticed his chain yeah he had the gold chain and i believe it was like a i believe it was a raiders um baseball hat that he had on as well and then yeah tim's in the puffy jacket the fact that he chased them down those alleys and stuff like what a psycho
Starting point is 00:59:39 he's hopping fences running through running through like little fucking concrete tubes yeah like why is he doing all this like they got you with the poop dollar move on you know can't let him win I guess but so anyways he was probably a hawk that's what he was probably a hawk that's just a weird scene
Starting point is 01:00:00 for them to just draw that's our introduction into yeah that's the first scene that's the first scene with half the kids and it's i guess it's just setting them up as like district five kind of like you know they're on their own they're a little rougher around the edges you know kids yeah yeah um and so bombay's back in the limbo with uh with mc gainey just for a little bit as they're driving up to the ice. And he's like, well, where is it? He's like, well, look for a sign that says personal hell.
Starting point is 01:00:30 He's like, I hate kids. They're barely even human. And so it's just really setting the tone for how Bombay is going to approach this first practice. And so they pull up to the pond in the limo and they see the kids out there. They're playing some shimmy, right? Is that way? Yep. Yeah. Shimmy some pickup. Yep. I'm a fucking hockey guy now. Not, not shimmy, shinny, shinny. Damn it. I was so close to being a hockey guy. Um, I'll get there. I'll get there. I'm, I'm, I'm getting close. Um, but everyone's just like falling all over the place and then they do
Starting point is 01:01:05 they go to a goldberg in the net and this is awesome this is this is the best goldberg because so uh terry uh who's jesse's brother terry hall is uh shooting pucks and goldberg's not doing anything he's just like fucking leave it and he's he's like yelling at goldberg he's like can you at least try to stop a puck i get i'm so tired of chasing after them and then uh and like goldberg's like pleading with them like hey buddy come on let's talk about this right like pleading like just please come on man and he's like that he's like whoa bud that one almost hit me charlie goes yeah goldberg you're the goalie it's supposed to hit you. And this is your favorite line. This is your favorite line.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Does that sound crazy to anybody else? Does that sound stupid to anybody else? Yeah, does that sound stupid to anybody else? You brought that up when we were talking about Kuba as the goalie because you need someone who's not afraid to take a puck to the dome. Yeah, being a hockey goalie requires a little insanity. You know, so. And then Bombay is, they're pulling
Starting point is 01:02:10 up and they're like stopping and Bombay is like, good God. They think he's a fucking drug dealer when he pulls up in the limo. He's like, good God, that's the hockey team. Just like, son of a bitch. And I love that they all broach it like Jesse gets out. Jesse has them all behind them and they're like talking about how.
Starting point is 01:02:26 That's a drug-free zone. Yeah, you're in the wrong hood, bro. I said, do you remember Dare? Like the lion from Dare? That didn't work, but it's fun to think about. And do you remember what Jesse says to Bombay? I have it verbatim. It's great.
Starting point is 01:02:43 It's great. He goes, I'm going to let you get your sorry vanilla booty out of here right now before we start using your eyeballs for hockey pucks. Oh, Jesse got him. They think he's a drug dealer.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Good for them. Drug-free zone. Good for them. I'm proud of them, honestly. They showed him as little street kids, but they were shutting him down. And I like that Bombay's like, thanks, bro, but got business to take care of here. And then he reaches in and they all think it's a
Starting point is 01:03:16 gun. Averman's like, he's got a gun. Stand back. And Ray's like, get out of here. And then he's like, District 5, I'm your new hockey coach. And they're like, yeah, right, dude. He's like district five i'm your new hockey coach and they're like yeah right dude he's like frayed so dudes and then i love it he's like um he just lists three names he's like averman dave conway charlie paul terry now here's the long and short of it. I hate hockey and I don't like kids. And I love that they brought that back for the Game Changers TV series.
Starting point is 01:03:54 That was excellent. And Peter's response, like, was that supposed to be a pep talk? So speaking of lines they brought back for Game Changers, sorry to go back a little bit, but if we go back to because this cracked me up. So if you go back to the scene where right after the court hearing for his DUI and Bombay's late at night in the office and Duxworth comes in, Bombay goes, oh, Mr. Duxworth, what are you doing here and mr ducksworth reply he replies i own the place which is an exact quote from game changers uh is it is it the second i forget what second or third episode when uh alex is sitting in the ice palace at night and then bombay comes out for his solo skate and she's like oh what are you doing here he goes i own the place yeah i don't know if that was a i don't know if that was a deliberate uh exact quote but i like to think of this
Starting point is 01:04:49 anyway back to the drug-free zone anyways so we're in the drug-free zone um and and he uh he he gives them the long the short of it uh and then and then he says you know this i'm sure this will be a real bonding experience. Maybe one day one of you will write a book about it in jail. Kids are like, fuck you, man. Don't talk to us like that. And then he's like, is there a goalie? It's like only for a little while and move it back to Philly. Yeah. So I, so what I think happened there because little while and move it back to Philly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 So I, so what I think happened there because Goldberg doesn't move back to Philly. He stays the whole, the whole, the whole season here. So I, cause, and he,
Starting point is 01:05:36 so Goldberg does not want to be the goalie. He makes that very clear. He's like, I don't want to be the fucking goalie. So I think my thinking was brand new coach, right? Comes in and he asks if there's a goalie and it's not goldberg's he's wearing like a goalie mask and he's got a goalie stick you can't be like no there's no fucking goalie here yeah so what he does is he goes i'm only
Starting point is 01:05:56 here for a little while because i'm moving back to philly my thinking is he says i'm only here for a little while in hopes that bombay will be like well okay let's find a full-time someone else yeah let's find someone else and then he just gets out of being goalie i think that's what he was trying to do there because he never he never moves i think they touched i think they mention it at the beginning of the second one where he's like oh yeah my parents just decided not to move or some shit like that like a quick little line but i don't think they were ever i don't think they were ever planning a movie. Yeah. And then Bombay shoots him out onto the ice and Averman is like, just so you know, we really suck.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Is that when he goes, well, I'll be the judge of that. And then two seconds later, he's like, oh, yeah, you guys fucking suck. Yeah. I said, like, it was like, yeah, it took all of one second for him to to come to the realization that they suck. And so the music builds and then it comes to my favorite
Starting point is 01:06:46 part of this whole thing are you ready for this ready go for it the peep meister mr rabble rouser passing the puck over to jesse rooney the enforcer and then he gets hit and so he's like ouch that hurt and then he's like oh the connie meister and then she levels him and he's like the velvet hammer yes so i was i loved the nickname so connie he calls the velvet hammer amazing so but pete pete mr rabble rouser that's why he's always talking shit he is the rabble rouser and then 100 jesse the enforcer which makes sense because he's you know defending them against the drug dealer and Connie dropped the elbow that she taught to Maya
Starting point is 01:07:29 Lawrence yeah yeah I love that and so Connie is like that was a great like Averman is is just a gem in this first part what a sick ass fucking nickname to you though the Velvet Hammer the Velvet Hammer the The Velvet Hammer.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Dude, you're... People... Connie is very underrated in this movie. And, like, did you... We'll talk... Her gear in that first game... We'll talk about it when we get there eventually, but... Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:07:58 All the gear is ridiculous. Her helmet has a peace sign on the front of it. I thought that was so excellent. I love that. And then I love that they are all just wearing shit they brought from home and then they just like i don't know if it was like tape or if they wrote it on there like yeah it just they just wrote d5 on all their shirts yep it's amazing and connie's is sparkly yeah so ridiculous um and so she goes over to bombay, and this is a great interaction, too. And she's like, do you play?
Starting point is 01:08:30 And he's just like, yeah, whatever. What's our record? And she's like, oh, a nine. Oh, a nine. One was pretty close. We only lost by five. And we almost scored. And they almost scored.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And he was just like, oh, shit. And so then the rest of the team starts to like come over to him and this is i love this part too this always cracked up my dad like my dad just would laugh so hard at this part where he's like uh where the team gathers around he's like all right so what do we do now coach he's like well what did your old coach tell you to do like yeah he just yelled a lot until he hurt his arm and then pete does the reenactment he's like you you bastards so much you skate you little beth and he like thanks to heart attack and he's what a terrible coach just screaming bastards at these 10 year old kids screaming you little bastards like come on man that's so funny
Starting point is 01:09:27 and then bumping's like son of a bitch it's a hard you died of a heart attack in front of the kids yeah that's a traumatic life experience they watched their last coach have a heart attack well they they clearly didn't realize that it was a heart attack oh that was awesome i loved everything about that um so bombay's like oh shit go like you you you versus you you and you you four go play and then he's gonna he's like so the worst is a very stephanie part where he's like i'm gonna go make a phone call i'm gonna script you guys keep scrimmaging that's where they're like oh we have names you know he's like yeah i'm going to go make a phone call. I'm going to script. You guys keep scrimmaging. And that's where they're like, oh, we have names. You know, he's like, yeah, I'm sure you do.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I bet they're very nice names. I might even learn them. But for now, I'll be in my office. And then he tells them to fax him. If you need me, fax me. Like every single one. And then and then Averman comes back again. So this is what this is what I wanted to talk about with Averman.
Starting point is 01:10:23 First of all, the Velvet Hammer nickname was fantastic. But then this. So Bombay goes into the limo, and then Averman's talking to Connie, and they're skating back, and he goes – well, give me the exact quote. You got the exact quote on you? Yeah, he goes, geez, what a jerk. Where do they find these coaches anyways?
Starting point is 01:10:40 We're impressionable kids, right? Shouldn't we check his qualifications? Yeah, shouldn't we check his qualifications yes which yes why is nobody checking his qualifications the dude just got arrested for a dui why are we making him the coach in reckless endangerment why is he in charge of children he has an outstanding reckless endangerment charge and then he recklessly endangers the lives of all these children by driving them in a limo on the ice like it's just you're right like his qualifications are terrifying and charlie's mom had every right to be pissed but of course his kids were like
Starting point is 01:11:19 jeez charlie's mom what a fun sponge yeah you know She just sucks the fun right out of here. I love Averman's line so much. Somebody should be checking his qualifications. Yes, you are impressionable, kids. You shouldn't look like a drug dealer in a limo pulling up. That's great stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Bombay's in the car talking to Jeannie on the phone. Bad Mouth and Jane. Bad Mouth and Jane talking shit. It does a great spit take, though. Emilio does a really good spit take there. Did you, with the subtitles on, did you see that in the background, Goldberg yelled, one, two, three, charge.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Like, I never noticed that until i uh watched it with subtitles on and so they're attacking the limo and i love they're like blowing on the windows yeah they're like doing raspberries on the windows climbing on top shaking it and bombay is like screaming at them let's get out of the car monkeys little monkeys And then they start Jumping in the car Jesse grabs the phone Takes it away from him Peter starts the rivalry
Starting point is 01:12:33 With Lewis about taking the candy Yeah As they start Do you hear what Lewis says though As they start the we want a ride chant He turns to Bombay and he goes Sir I can kill one of them just to set an example yes i oh man he just that was excellent like that was so
Starting point is 01:12:54 just absolutely so funny and so he's just like uh not not yet lewis that's what i love too bobby's like not yet man uh just do it take him for a spin do anything like I don't give a shit um and so they I love that they're driving around on the ice too and did you see the people just like casually strolling in the background just yeah cool because the the pond's in the middle of a park so there's like a playground in the background yeah there's people walking strollers it's just like a limo in the middle of the eyes you know oh man and and so um they're in there uh peter is still stealing candy there's a little bit of tension um connie says she feels like madonna averman uh mentions that it can seat 10 comfortably i hope you saw that lewis is uh and then lewis grabs peter and starts strangling him
Starting point is 01:13:47 and growling at him while he's driving on the ice like this is just the most absurd scene and then all of a sudden we get um we get gold we get everyone sniffing the air. This is like super 90s stuff too. We're sniffing the air and then all of a sudden, Goldberg? Then he's like, it wasn't me and Bombay's yelling at him, young man, what'd you eat? Do you think it was Goldberg though? We don't get any
Starting point is 01:14:20 confirmation. It was 100% Goldberg. I don't know. It was either Goldberg or he needs to i don't know it was either goldberg or connie because whoever smelled whoever smelt it dealt it dude and i would not i mean that is i would not be surprised connie's in there with a whole bunch of boys might feel a little bit embarrassed for breaking wind that is so smelly and she was the first one that smelt it so there is a very good chance that she was in fact the one that dealt conspiracy theory you heard it here first connie was actually the one who farted in
Starting point is 01:14:51 the limo yeah and that's the perfect time if you're a girl that's the perfect time to rip one is when you're surrounded by guys because then yeah you just play dumb and you blame it on them just it's it's easy because none of them are going to turn around and be like no that was you connie you know that would be very rude to them i i felt the upholstery vibrate that shit was you connie and that's how gee and connie met no so but then then charlie pops up and he's like oh my god it's my mom she looks pissed do you see what bombay does when he says he just shoves he just shoves charlie to the ground charlie like pops up in front of bombay and goes oh shit that's my mom and bombay hearing that there's a mom coming
Starting point is 01:15:37 he's like i need to get my eyes on this so he grabs charlie by the side of the face and fucking throws him down out of his view so he can look at his mom. So amazing. It is a beautiful, beautiful moment. So that's when we get. So his mom comes running out on the ice. Casey Conway, Mrs. Casey Conway or Miss Casey Conway because she's single. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Yeah. So she comes out and she starts yelling at Bombay. And I love the scene. Do you have what she says? Because she has some just nonsense fucking lines that she gives. Oh, I didn't write down the exact.
Starting point is 01:16:18 It's like, no matter how comfortable you are with it, that's my kid. She's yelling at Bombay and she's like, how could you take these kids out on the ice and bombay is like i i know the ice the ice isn't gonna break i've i and she's like no yeah she's like how the fuck do you know and he's like i just know and so she goes this is what she goes well i don't care how comfortable you are i don't care she i forget the exact quote but she says something along the lines of i don't care how in tune you are with the ice universe she calls it the ice universe wait wait well listen mr zen master you may be in tune with the ice universe but when it comes to
Starting point is 01:16:57 my kid i just know doesn't cut it yes i was at the wrong part of my notes i got you i love i love that she called it the ice universe mr zen master in tune with the ice universe but like could you imagine if the limo goes through the ice oh dude a minnesota state tragedy like oh like that is bad That's like 15 10 year old kids That died in a limo And drowned Like that's fucking crazy But while she's yelling at him They're just district 5 kids
Starting point is 01:17:35 Wouldn't be that big of a loss Just fucking street kids We saw it earlier Dumpster diving kids Dumpster Dave And then it pans out And it shows Lewis yelling and screaming at Peter, dangling him upside down. He's got him by one leg.
Starting point is 01:17:52 He's holding him up, just dangling. Yeah. And then his bag of candy is just spilling out onto the ice. Oh, and this is where, like, it looked like there were some Jolly Ranchers, maybe some Wurthers Originals. It was a great like some of those grandma strawberries maybe some you know like some some uh top of the line uh caramels and stuff oh yeah man like it looked like some good car me i would i would have i would have taken out peter for that fucking candy oh i would i would have punched him i would have punched him in the face for eating my candy. No question about it.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Good God. You broke his jaw and then you're in prison. You're not even coaching hockey with Bombay. I'm not in prison. There's no way Peter's parents are coherent enough
Starting point is 01:18:41 to have press charges against me. There's like a 90 chance that peter has just there's a present parents that are there's a 90 chance that he lives in a dumpster wow peter dude you're starting to make me feel sorry for him have you seen the kid looks a little rough but do you do you like that uh the bombay's like well i guess practice is over we got busted driving on the ice and then charlie's like sorry well, I guess practice is over. We got busted driving on the ice. And then Charlie's like, sorry, my mom ruined it, guys.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yes, of course she ruined it. That's very dangerous. And then it ends in the most insane way possible. And this is where we're going to wrap things up here at the 19 minute mark, but coach, you're going to be at the game tomorrow. Yes. And then Bombay goes, you know, by the order of the state of Minnesota. Yeah. Yes. But just so my, so you can, so the previous coach died of a heart attack, right.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And he was screaming bastards at everybody. I'm imagining they probably had another coach or two probably somewhere along the lines right you know the guy screaming bastards and having heart attacks probably hasn't been the coach forever but you can tell how bad of a history they have with coaches where charlie has to ask his coach if he's going to be at the game tomorrow. Yeah. And when, when would you,
Starting point is 01:20:09 when would your coach ever not show up? Sorry. It's some sort of health scare, you know, like a heart attack, but so they have trauma from coaches not showing up, but then the witness one almost die. And then to, to kind of like just really devastate any potential trust, Bombay just lets them know straight up, I would not be here and I would not be coaching you if I wasn't ordered by the state of Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Yeah. And like – Unreal. That's like – because Connie brings that up in the episode six of Game Changers when they have the little reunion show and bombay's being an and flaking out because he didn't get invited to the gala you know and connie's just like is it going to take another court order for you to for you to hang out with us bombay so you know there's there's still still to this day feeling that that trauma yeah that is absolutely insane that they had to that they had to ask that so anyways that just goes to show you how bad of a place bombay is in the the sparkle of the minnesota
Starting point is 01:21:16 miracle man has not yet gleaned in itself we're we're we are a long way from Coach Bombay. We're still alcoholic DUI Bombay, for sure. Yeah, and it's just, you hate to see it, but it's the origin of a troubled Bombay. The origin of troubled Bombay. It's the story of the Phoenix. We got to hit rock bottom before we can rise up. Yeah, we're in those ashes right now, but we're gearing up for that rise.
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