The Cake Eaters - 132. Starship Troopers

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

Heath and Brandon take a trip through the galaxy with Starship Troopers! The boys discuss interstellar bug armies, justice for Dizzy, the Golden Girls, Johnny Rico being a big dumb-dumb, and draft dodging.Follow us on Instagram @thecakeeaterspodEmail us at [e-mail]

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It's not worth winning if you can. Provide Starship Troopers to the final countdown because it's the only thing I can improvise it. It's the Starship Troopers. They're killing bugs with nuclear bombs. Sex and each other in the showers, which was a wild scene. And then there's more Starship trooping.

And their infantry has to go through crazy basics where everyone dies. They weren't. they weren't sexing in the shower i was just kidding it was a pretty it was a pretty uh it's a pretty standard communal shower it's pretty plodonic shower i don't know i just thought i've seen i've seen way i've seen way worse group showers he's there's i just think that there's like 20 other ways you could have written that scene in the fact that it was just communal shower to do it was the funniest way i was they could have been eating lunch that the exact same conversation it just it's about cracked me up it's about bonding though he's it's about

bonding i read uh i wrote i was reading like fun facts and trivia and stuff and for that scene uh for that scene uh i think it was was it the director and the cameraman um they like were the only other two people like were the only two crew people in the uh in the room in the room in the shower whatever they can't so they cut everybody else out because everybody's naked obviously Um, but the, a lot of the, the actors were still like a little nervous about it being like, because it's full frontal for everybody in there. Yeah, they were a little nervous. And so the director was like, well, what?

Because like, come on guys. It's a, it's a quick scene. Let's do it or whatever. And so then a couple of the actors snapped back and they were like, why don't you do it then? So both the cameraman and the director also got naked to shoot the scene. So everybody was naked. That, I mean, that's saying. That's good leadership by the director.

That's, you know, like if he's going to make them do it, he may as well do it too. I actually listen to this on Audible, Star Shoeuvres. I see, it is based on a book, a book series. And from what I read, it's nothing like the book. No, no. They do their, at one point, I was kind of like, you know, they do their best for what year is this made? 97. 97.

Okay, so it's 97 and I think they did their best because like they it's hard to portray how ruthless the book is. Like people are horrifying like the drill sergeant is like a really main focus in the book. And he is so horrifying to the cadets to prepare them for these battles against the bugs. and like all like half their platoon quits or gets killed or like maimed i said dude but fucking riko first day on the job as a squad leader gets his buddy's head blown off it's it's it's a little different in the book and i won't it's a little different in the book for all this thing but yeah it's it was i thought they tried their best to to you know like honor the book as much as you can like honor this it's just it's like as i was

watching it. I was like, you know, I just don't know how they would have portrayed some of this stuff. Because it's like, even some of the like deaths and stuff were already pretty, you know, pretty pretty tough. The movie's brutal. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a lot more. Dude, I is speaking of like random brutal movies. Uh, hold on. I got to let the cat out of the room. He's in a pitch of it. He can open the doors one way, but he can't like pull him open. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so it like, he like gets confused. He's like, he's like, like why can't i fucking open this door here so i just fucking did this i had never seen this movie before or read books and so you you read the was that your first time going through the book was the

audio version yeah i didn't read it i just listened to it an audio book and you've seen the movie before right i i i've never i've never seen the movie nor have i read the book so i was going blind i watched the movie in december but i didn't really paying attention was that the first time It wasn't forever. Like I watched it when I was younger where it was like on HBO or something, but I think I just like lost, it lost my attention span kind of like it did now towards the end where I was like, all right, let's just let's wrap it up. Yeah. The whole premise really is that it's an unwinnable war. They just find different ways to fight it.

From what I've gathered, granted it's, you know, I haven't read the book. This is just from looking at stuff on the internet. haven't read the book or now i have seen the movie but it's a uh yeah it's a it's a huge critique on war itself but also like coming off of world war two and all the uh it's a huge critique of of fascism and all that as well very hit hit home a little you know with with the current times um i did love my favorite part were the fucking propaganda scenes those were amazing those were so fucking those were so well done i so i i think this movie this movie does this movie sits in a a spot for me similar to where scream does yeah where it's clearly a parody and a critique of

war in general as well as like war movies but it's also done in such a fun and um polished way that if you're just watching it you it's it's very subtle it's easy to it's easy to not recognize all of the critiques and all of the uh you know parody that's going on it's it's very similar to scream to me in that in that way but those those uh those propaganda scenes were my favorite part they were hilarious did you did you clock it's a meme i'm doing my part yeah yeah it's that's i'm always like would say that like when we first had the baby and like I would Kelly be like Keith why he always asking me questions I was like I don't know I want to be a starship trooper in this you know like and she'd be like what the fuck does that mean I was like I'm doing my part

she's like Heath I have you know what you're talking about you are definitely the the mobile infantry of of the relationship for sure when I was on the front lines this morning it's a pretty wicked wicked diapers this morning. I say you're mobile, you are mobile infantry. Kelly's games in theory. It's just I was watching this and that came on it. It's made me laugh so hard. I was like, I used to say that all the time.

That was a girl one. First time of the baby. I'm doing my part. I love that meme. And then that was a great one. The other one where the little kids are stomping on cockroaches is. Oh my God. The, uh, the one where they have the, uh, they,

They arrest the guy, they try him, and they execute him all within like 24 hours. Yeah. That's great. Did you clock? Did you clock Seamus McTiernan slash Carlton Lasseter in the movie? Yes. Yes. What?

Where was he again? He was on one of the propaganda things. He was the, he was the psychic. He was recruiting for the psychic. The psychic division. Yeah, yeah. Good old Timothy Omenston. Is that how you say his last name?

I always forget that. Yeah, I couldn't place, sell Seth Gilliam for the longest time or however you say his name, but he's, uh, the wire. Oh, he plays one of the detectives on the wire. And I, it took, it took me forever. I was like, I didn't clock that either. World do I know this guy from us? Like, why does he feel so incredibly familiar, you know? Yeah, I didn't clock that either. But speaking of the people in this movie is there's. So many. Yeah, it's hard to like even pin down one because there's the random guy from Major League. I was like, oh my God, the dude from like the dude that gets his head blown off.

He's from Major League. Well, he's from. Back to the Miner. Yeah, he's not from. Don't. Sorry. Sorry. I loved the Back to the Miners major.

Really? Oh, I hated that movie. It's so bad. I love. There's certain movies. You know this, Brandon. They just, they just tick on my weird. There was one I watch.

Speaking of random like gory bloody movies, I put on a movie the other morning thinking it was it was called Turbo Kid. And I was like, oh, this is going to be a chill like kids movie. It's about like a kid that likes comic books. It was almost it was just post-apocalyptic. Everyone like dude has like chainsaws. Like everyone's getting just cut in half. They grind up people to make water like and they show them grinding up body parts to make. water it was like slasher like post apocalyptic world with like a kid that's obsessed with comic

books as a main character it was an inch brandon i i was thinking uh i was thinking turbo man from jingle all the way oh no dude turbo kid and there was like the guy shot hack saws out of his hands and there were just the blood splatter was hilarious though like they would get hit with these and it would spray blood like they just like you know struck oil yes hilarious anyways um but dude does the the people in this the amount of people in this movie is is ridiculous did you did you did you did you clock why we're doing this movie did you clock the connection oh no no sometimes i quit i just get so locked in the movie i forget to pay attention for that so sergeant zim remember him he's the the boot camp leader yeah that's clancy brown you should recognize him from

highlander oh yeah oh yeah the bad guy in highlander he's also in the mighty ducks animated series he was the voice he was the voice of one of the uh i forget forget which uh siege he was the voice of the siege so he's the voice of one of the the evil sidekicks i forget which one siege though that's why we're doing this clancy brown the the villain from highlander sergeant zim so he's in this we got you got dougie hauser you go patrick harris i loved i always forget until they pull until he comes up i'm like oh my god dude dougie how dogy hauser amy smart amy smart makes a random appearance you just call a co-pilot you just call him dukey hauser yeah i did yeah i mean amy smarts in this for for like two scenes um denise richards is obviously

carman um who else we got uh michael ironside um greg travis is in all kinds of stuff which one is who's great travis he's the um he's uh oh he was now i'm getting him mixed up with someone else sorry who am i thinking of i think we should put a stop on you uh you with names you're just not a lot of name people anymore but also I was thinking Michael Ironside I was getting him so the person the person I just said yeah I was thinking anyways sorry Michael iron side we got Dean Norris from Branky Bad is in this you got a Brenda Strong was the the captain the pilot captain what's she in she you'll you'll probably she's in a bunch of stuff

but I recognized her from Seinfeld did you ever watch Seinfeld you know it's just she but Seinfeld just kind of bugs me oh really she there's she plays Sue Ellen Sue Ellen I forget the character's last name but um I think it's a lane that convinces her to wear a like lace lingerie bra as a top

oh that's that's the fashion now yeah but that was like a that was that's like one of the big big famous episodes but that's who she is she's Sue Ellen the best cameo though of all time heath my favorite did you clock did you clock who their their biology teacher is in the beginning oh come on don't look it up that's a cheating i can't remember now it's rude mclanahan that's blanche golden girls yes yes yes blanche from from freaking golden girls that's that's my girl dude i love dude i also i'm a big big golden

girl's guy the guy that poor poor riko gets left for patrick moldoon i recognize him from some hallmark movies oh that name does sound really familiar like he's in super random hallmark movies

oh he's in burning and the dolphin two that looks like a and one two and two that looks like a top notch movie um oh yeah saving christmas yep saving christmas a horse tail oh yeah christmas reunion okay yeah dog walker's christmas tale dude that's right up my alley oh that's what that's what i remember him from i watched that one okay i got a i got to start going through check my adventures start watching the man yeah uh but yeah the the amount of people in this movie is

absolutely insane yeah it's just it really is absolutely um crazy um trying to think so tuky hazer golden girls um oh and then the other one that i didn't mention that you were talking about before we started was uh jake busey that one threw me for a fucking loop because he looks so much like his dad that honestly for the first like 30 minutes that he that he was in the movie i kept I kept thinking to myself, that can't be Gary Busey. That's way too old at this point. That can't be him. So then I looked it up and I was like, okay, it's his son.

That makes sense. Yeah, that it was crazy how much he looked like. Like, because that's like, you pull, he, he'd be like, God, where is he from? Where is he from? I legitimately had was fighting with myself. I was like, that can't be Gary Bucy. It can't. The main guy didn't go on to really do anything, right?

like the uh caspar caspar vandine which is a fucking a plus name a same name uh he did um not a bunch after that i don't believe i mean he's still acting he's still in stuff but he's uh trying to think nothing nothing like super that'd be definitely nothing you would know that's for sure It looks like he's still involved with Starship Troopers, though. He did Johnny Rico's voice for, I think, an animated show as well as a video game. Nice. But we should say that this is the first in a series. I think there's three full-length movies.

Is it a trilogy? Yeah. Yeah. The other two movies I don't think are worth watching. right i can set most of the other stuff i i don't know i again this is the this is my first time watching any starship troopers stuff um and i'm like i'm upset i didn't watch it before this seems right at my this came out in 1997 though i was uh you know i was seven years old i was i was too busy doing cool shit at that time fucking bitches you know that i just didn't

have time to watch these these nerd-ass star star's gazing movies that's i don't hinge what did you think about the like football football football game oh the arena football I wrote that down in my notes yeah yeah that's in the book too like it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it reminded me of roller ball just with less less people dying but yeah exactly exactly that they did a good job staying pretty close to that scene too but like it's it um I thought that you would like that that game I wrote I wrote the uniforms are top notch they're wearing it's like a tiger fucking tiger suit and then uh they're wearing the helmets they're wearing are like old school uh jofa hockey helmets just without the yeah the cages that's super fucking cool um and i loved the

i loved when uh what's what's the dews zander right yeah um that reminded me real bro's a seby valley zander um but uh when he gets pushed out and then carmin helps him up and they have their little flirting thing and then he goes back in the game and i loved johnny like pushing him don't get any ideas about my girlfriend i know i was like dude he didn't even know she was your girlfriend until you just told him now he might want her yeah and now now you look like a fucking weirdo yeah like a real baby dude i i i did feel bad for him though denise just dumps him over video chat that's a rough you know one one critique i have of this movie is they did a terrible job of writing the two main women they they like poor dizzy they did no favors hashtag justice

for dizzy yeah she got the short end of the stick all throughout this movie and and she was is a handsome young lass you know oh she's gorgeous yeah she's so i i know Carmen Denise Richards is like regarded as one of the most beautiful women ever and she obviously is beautiful not really wild things right isn't is that is richards and sydney not sydney uh the the the girl from wild things you're right you're right you're scream yeah the girl from scream what's her name nev campbell um but did that really that really defined uh adolescent that movie i've seen that for the first time i was like what deny denise isn't She's she's obviously a gorgeous human and I'm one of the ugly people alive.

So who am I to, who am I to critique here? But she's just not, she's not my type. I'm, I'm way more of a dizzy, dizzy guy than, than a Carmen. Do love Ireland. She's just not your type on paper. Not my type. It's not a big deal. You know, it's just, if someone's not your type on paper, you're just, you're not going to have the banter. It's not going to click, you know, like you might be able to be in a friendship couple, but that's all that's all it can go from there. They wrote, they wrote, they wrote,

Carmen terribly though because again when I was reading like the trivia and the fun and fun facts and all that kind of stuff there were multiple scenes that they had that took place after she thinks uh Rico dies yeah and it's her and zander um like you know starting their relationship um and the the the court the like test audience they showed it to you hated it because like they were they were like you know riko just died she thinks riko just died and now she's basically they just because uh she was moving on they they hated it so they deleted those but they did a such a terrible job of because she it's johnny carman and carl neopetra keros they're the three main people they do a terrible job of making karmine likable they have her they have her flirting with everybody uh like even when she's dating riko uh which is like like not a good look yeah like the whole time she's flirting with him at the game it's like dude riko break up with her that is not going anywhere buddy yeah let's johnny riko's a fucking idiot okay

well that's also they he is like not smart no he's a he's a dumb dumb he's gonna go to i i did love that harvard still existed and he was going to go to harvard that the thing that they left of the movie that I thought was really interesting in the book was like, you know, his dad and his family disown him. But his dad doesn't die when his hometown gets wiped out. And they end up running into each other. He joins, right? Yeah. Yeah.

His dad joins after. And then they run into each other randomly when his dad's like infantry men. And he's like a sergeant or whatever. And it's like a very touching part of the book. And they try to get in the same platoon. I can't remember exactly how it goes. It feels like a lifetime ago that I listened to it. But I would have like after watching the movie, I was like, man,

that actually would have been a really cool storyline for the movie, I feel like, right? Like dad disowning son and then joining up to run into him and apologize after. Do they still disown him in the book? Yeah. Yeah. His dad's like, dude, if you're going to do this, you're out. Like his dad did everything he could to try and get him to not go because he's rich. He didn't need to go.

Like his dad was like, dude, just come work for the company. Be rich. Like, be awesome. So that's the dream, man. It's the dream. Yeah. Gave it all up for a lady. Lady that didn't even like him.

Didn't even like him. Flirting during the game. I do I do love how I did love how everybody whenever people that like got brought up that he joined for a lady everybody was like are you fucking stupid yeah dumb yeah especially a lady that went on to be a ship captain like what I mean do you do youie do you houseer you know Patrick Harris says it like immediately after they join he goes well we're never gonna see each other again yeah like we're going in three completely different directions.

Yeah, like way to join the way to join the army to be with a girl that you're not going to be with. Ever, ever. The only girl that you're going to see is dizzy because you joined the same platoon. Like the same thing. You have to be in the same. It's like it's like joining the National Guard and expecting to be with the Air Force. That's like it's not going to happen. Even worse, because now we're talking about,

Juggie Hauser says it, we're talking about light years. We're light years away from people. Yeah, it's even, we can't even fathom how far away they are from each other. Yeah, I know. Worlds, you know. Dude, those bugs shooting big nuclear bombs into space out of their butts was one of the more unintentionally funny things of this movie, I think. Like, they're just shooting the whole space rays out of their butts. The whole bug.

They did such a bad job with it. Like they did like in, I mean, it is, it is 1997. That's true. And it's hard to fathom like a, because like the thing with the bugs is that we mis underestimate, like we underestimate them thinking they're bugs. But not only are they smarter than humans, they can reproduce faster and more maliciously. Like they breed for certain aspects of their army fully, right? Like there's just nothing that we.

can do and then they have like brain bugs and all the different stuff and it's just yeah and then we keep underestimating them thinking they're just dumb bugs and then they're like well there's the one there's the one propaganda one where there it's like a debate show or whatever and the dude's like smart bug i've never seen one yeah that was i think he ends the they end the clip with him being like honestly i'm offended by the idea of a smart bug yeah that's that's exactly they end that clip. They didn't do, it wasn't, it's not the greatest CGI, it doesn't hold up

very well, but considering it was 1997, I thought it was, it wasn't terrible, but especially with like the scenes with the large amount of bugs are rough because obviously when you're just dealing with like one, you can build, you can build like a

practical effect, but when you're, you know, you got fucking 100,000 bugs running, you can't, that's be cg i for sure and you know the technology at that time not the greatest but that talk about brandon's worst nightmare life-sized bugs running at you that was terrified that look like a cross between cockroaches and spiders and yeah all the different stuff um that the i did feel i did feel bad for him at the end though i was i was honestly i was rooting for the bugs you're Voted thesis. Another interesting piece that they like at the end of the book like they go to rescue their sergeant that gets like kidnapped by the bugs like the the um one of the sergeants gets kidnapped by the bugs and they like go to like rescue them and stuff and they go down into the tunnels instead of Carmen yeah okay yeah yeah I don't know anyways it's just it was a

such a freaking chaotic movie the whole time and I will just say it's probably like 30 minutes too long for my attention span they they could have cut a couple a couple scenes

and still have the same impact like we could have kept that at two hours even and and called it a day and I think we would have been solid I agree yeah there was there's some fluff in there for sure Um, but it's I it's a movie though having never said before the it was a great movie.

I loved all the little one-liners. One thing I love one thing I got a one thing I got a crack that cracked me up and I don't know if it was it was supposed to be funny. Um, I imagine it was because of the the nature of the of the source material is they they get them when they go get the matching tattoos right. Oh yeah. I think that's in the source material too. Okay. They get tattoos. Granted, they're all, their mobile infantry, right?

They are ground troops. They are literally, and they are very clear. Like, the reason basics is unhinged and crazy is because they know they are in a meat grinder. And it's why, like, you don't. Do they talk about gaining the right to vote? Like, you gain the right to vote through that, becoming a. citizen and like that's like the biggest honor but half of like over half of the people that sign up just are like more more than more than that die yeah like no just don't go they're just

like fuck this i'm out like this is it like you can just leave it anytime he just have to sign papers and riko tries to like he signs his papers to quit like they didn't really dwell on that too much but like he signs his papers to quit but most people do like the girl that shot the dude in the head that was her she signed her papers to quit and like they they kicked her out i think oh that could be it too but like dude it is an actual meat grinder and they like basically the recruiter got yeah when they hands in the stuff to the the recruiter the guy goes oh fresh meat for the grinder yeah it's like they are just fodder for the bugs to figure out what they can to just to figure out what to do yeah but so they're they're they're ground troops on the ground right and the tattoo

the tattoo that they get says death from above. I loved it. I thought I I thought I don't know if that was supposed to be a joke, but I thought it was fucking hilarious. It probably is. I just can't remember, but that is classic.

That is classic. Yeah, it's, dude, everything about this movie is so good. And like Neil Patrick Harris being the telekinetic guy or whatever that becomes like a sergeant.

And he makes it, decision in one of the battles that i think kills a whole bunch of people yes yeah he's the he i forget which i forget which one it was it's like the second to last um battle is it the one where the camera of cameraman and the reporter no it's it's after that but you that was wild you're at though it's oh it's when they when they find out where the brain is oh that's it yeah and he yeah and he's talking to riko and he's like yeah we had to he's like i know like eight know like 80 million of you guys died but we needed to know where the brain was we had to we had we couldn't just we couldn't just blow up the planet without knowing that the brain was there

yeah yeah lots of lots of tough decisions he's it's a tough decisions been there you know you know i'd send you to the meat grinder brandon 10 seconds you'd send me to the meat grinder Yeah, I'd just be like, Brandon, front lines, good luck. Dude, there's, I, I do, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I do, I'm not built for war. There's no, no, I, I have the utmost respect for individual veterans. The system as a whole, don't really care for, but individual veterans, utmost respect for, because I do not have the mental makeup to even attempt to do that. I would have like I sometimes you know everybody likes to criticize like draft dodgers from

nom and stuff yeah and I sometimes I think about that and I go you know what I would have fucking dodged the fuck out of that I would have there's the I would have dodged I would either dodge it or like if I wasn't able to dodge it and I would had to be like fucking on the boots on the ground I would probably would have just off myself would have been done over dude I'm not doing it a lot of that did happen yeah I yeah it's it's crazy especially if it's fucking bugs dude no chance and like like when the the guy shoots the dude in the chest because he's about to get then they start to realize the bugs are sucking out their brains to learn more about the humans too

oh yeah yeah yeah yeah but in in the bugs defense the humans did it first yeah i mean they wiped Buenos Aires off the map, Brandon. Well, I mean, after they had been, you know, I don't know. There's two sides of every story. Yeah, you know, you either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. I did, I did feel really bad when they showed, uh, when they caught the brain. And they were like showing, uh, showing them like, like doing experiments on it. I was like, oh, that's, it had the like 30 big old eyes and they were all sad looking.

And I was like, oh, this is, this isn't great. Dude, I just, I do hate bugs. So, you know, like not to justify murder of anything, but like bugs sucks. Well, I was mean, that's, that's why. That's why the bugs, that's why they chose the writer of the, the book chose bugs. like the villain um because everybody hates books you know yeah how can you not that propaganda scene when the kids are stumbling the cockroaches was fucking cracking me up oh gosh and then when or when the they have the uh the soldiers going to the park and they're

like handing the kids the fucking uh you know about military guns like oh have you ever held a gun before you Yeah Oh yeah Wild Those propaganda scenes were top-notch I I loved them I thought it was incredible as well

Absolutely Yeah but they Circling back They they did do dizzy So bad Um A Rico's an idiot for not Being into it from the start

What a fucking moron Um But then she's I don't know She's always, when he gets promoted, he, Rico gets promoted to corporal under, what's the dude, Razak, Razdak? Yeah, Ra, Rez. Ray, Rez, Raich. Rocheck.

We'll say Raichak, Raich sounds right. When Rochek promotes Rico to corporal and then he needs a new squad leader. Yeah. I love how he goes up to he goes up to Bucy and he goes He want to be my squad leader and Dizzy's standing right next to him They're in a group of three talking to each other and he's like hey Bucie you want to be my squad leader And Bucie's like no dude I tried that I'm not cut out for it I don't want to do it And he just immediately goes well what about you Dizzy you're my second choice

Always always my second choice do you want to be squad leader dude dude Dizzy's death was rough, man. So, dude, that, that was, uh, sad day. Should have been Rico. Should have been. Dizzy. Yeah. They, they, they wrote her so terrible, um, as a character.

Um, not that she wasn't like, like she, she was redeeming as a character, very likable, but just like the way, I don't know. You could tell a man wrote that, wrote that part, you know, just like. like her she has like zero free will i don't know it's just the the way they wrote that's my one critique is the way they wrote the female characters left a lot to be desired yeah yeah i love that uh kind of think what else oh some more one liners that i loved i love it has it had a uh a play on my one of my favorite quotes that i call all the time heath they i think it was towards the beginning. I forget who said it, because I just wrote down the quote.

It might have been in one of the propaganda films. But a dude says, the only good bug is a dead bug, which is, you know, the only good Englishman is a dead Englishman. That's one of my favorite quotes of all time. That sounds really racist of your brain, and yikes. It's not racist because I'm Irish, okay. Oh, gotcha. They're the ones that killed all my people.

people. That is true, I guess, but I did, I do agree though. I hate bugs. Like I just, I know there's some purpose for some of them and like people might get mad, but there's just, I hate spiders. Spiders are my least favorite thing in the history of all things on this planet. Like, it's just mosquitoes. Hapes are terrible. It's just, yeah, there's just bugs are the worst. And you know what? We haven't even gotten into bug season. here in the good life and I'm dreading that the the weather's been terrible that is the that is the great thing um great thing about Colorado um not a lot of bug activity uh like the only time you ever get spiders is if you're in like a basement um you know it was the best the Seattle was the best there was

zero bugs out there dude yeah oh dude I I know if Seattle would have had a much more livable circumstances that you know like just easier to to just survive there I would never left it's just yeah you're too expensive Atlanta Atlanta was bug crazy too though Atlanta fucking we had Savannah oh Savannah yeah right on the right on the coast would be even worse yeah and the worst was cat jesse never killed the cockroaches in the palmetto bugs he just played with them and so they were everywhere you know like the uh the apartment that me and me and Danny had, we were on the 17th floor and you would see it every once in a while you'd see a cockroach you running around and you're like, how did you get this high? Did you climb 17?

Those cockroaches will, that's what I always used to say to people about our apartment in Savannah. Those cockroaches were there long before we were. They're going to be there long after we are. Like it's just there. 17. 17. floors man. The worst is... That's like Mount Everest for them. The worst is they try to like... With no shupa. They try to like really doll up the cockroaches in the south.

They call them palmetto bugs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a more foul version of the cockroach. Dude, the worst was when a cockroach came up the drain pipe under my foot when I was showering. That was my least favorite. Ooh, yeah. That sounds fucking terrible. Yeah, it was, it was the worst. I would like to say that I would like to say that I, I handled it with grace and like a man, but I did not. I did not.

I screamed and panicked. And I, I did stomp on it like it was going to come back to alive and kill me. Like, like that thing died six times. Oh, you got to, you got to keep stomping. It's, uh, it's the double. What's the, um, what's the movie with the double tap? Zombie land. Zombie land.

Yeah, zombie land with the double tap. It's the exact same thing. But yeah, just the fact that the, things were just highly intelligent bugs bent on human annihilation made it all the more terrifying. Like I, I, war would be hard. See,

but like war against bugs that are so much bigger and stronger than you where you have to literally wear space suits and kill them with nuclear bombs. It's like the only way you can really kill them. Like they just like those bullets were doing nothing. Yeah, you had to, you had to shoot them like 12 times. And what was the,

the, the, it's like a brain or. sack or something they had to it wasn't a propaganda it was he was in boot camp right it wasn't a propaganda video when they were explaining yeah you can't if you shoot its leg that doesn't do anything because it's got fucking seven more you gotta yeah yeah hit it in the hit it in the heart yeah in the head in the heart yeah there's a couple more uh quotes that I that I have down here that I

loved uh most of which are from Bucy good old Bucy he uh there's one where he goes you shoot a nuke down a bug hole you get a lot of dead bugs and then there's uh i forget what seed it was uh but he's talking to riko um it's i think it's it's in the uh when he tries to cut in the the lunch line at the at the boot camp and uh busey's like uh he's like and riko stands up to him And Bucy's like, you know what, I like you. We're friends. And then he like patts him on the shoulder. And he's like, everybody should have a friend like me.

I don't want this to sound too mean, but I just could not get over how big that dude's teeth were in his mouth. Well, that's that's, that's just the Bucies, dude. I know. That's it just you just you forget, I think a little bit where you're just like, mother of pearl. There's just a there's not enough mouth for all that. teeth yeah somehow somehow they fit though somehow they well and you know somehow he still kind of pulls off like gently handsome while having such large teeth you know it's pretty impressive gently handsome i don't know i don't know if i've ever heard anybody described as gently

well because he's not good looking by any means but he's still he's not ugly you know he's more handsome than the two of us heathens fair that's fair yeah so does say he's He's gently handsome. Gently. I'm going to start using that. That's beautiful. I did love how you call Dizzy Handsome as well. I actually, I don't know if there's a book or I've been watching a lot of,

I've been watching a lot of old TV where like Kelly will say stuff. And she's like, I don't know. I'm not a hundred. Like go watch Cheers. I've been watching a lot of cheers. Dude, you got to get. Were you ever a Golden Girls?

Did you ever watch Golden Girls? Dude, I used to, I used, I've seen every episode at least four or five times. I think you told me to watch it before. I might enjoy it. It's, I think you would, if you enjoy Cheers, you got an old soul. I think you'd like it. It's, uh, I fucking, I used to watch that growing up constantly. It was that, that, that and friends.

Golden Girl, I love Golden Girls. I got a mug, Golden Girls mug. Oh, I love that. I mean, dude, Sam and Diane. I, I, I never got into Cheers. or the chemistry there is fierce you know i can see it's boston you hate boston i hate boston i'm not a huge brook shields fan honestly or i'm not a big ted dancing fan either like he's all right but i i don't go out of my way to to watch ted dance and stuff yeah it's uh it's good but i've been just

watching all kinds of random stuff yeah throw on golden girls let me know what you think of golden girls excited that's that's that's that's that's that is that on uh hulu it should be yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll give a shot it's uh when i it's it's just it's oh it's so good you got fucking ru mclanahan blanching it up all over town and then uh fucking betty white be playing the the dumbest old lady around is hilarious she's from nebraska too in the in the front in the show oh see if they're from okay now i'm in if they're from nebraska in a show i usually give a good watch there's some dumb show i'm watching now where the guys from Nebraska but um but yeah go and give you a shot yeah give him a shot i've i fucking love

that show but so i i lost my mind when when room mcleanahan was in this movie i was like i was like what the fuck are the what a what a castie dude what a castie yeah dude i would i do have to cut back on the tv though because the baby is now starting to like actively turn in the bassinet and look through the screen towards the TV and then I have to stand up and block her because she's been watching too much TV with dad so it's like like and like to be fair I can't blame her like it's like Sunday morning throw on Ninja Turtles you know and we're watching Ninja Turtle cartoons and sometimes she wakes up and wants to give it a watch Captain Planet you know she's going to be a planet here when she grows up but then there's like I'm watching

some like i was watching starship troopers and she was i was like oh shit the baby's just staring at the tv right like every parenting magazine would kill me i read a uh when i was like looking up fun stuff i read a uh a quote from uh casper the dude who plays jenny riko um and he was like it was like i was picking up my daughter from elementary school and i pull up and i open the door and there's like a group she's like talking with a big group of like eight and nine year olds and a couple of the boys turn around and they go oh shit why didn't you tell us your dad is johnny riko and he was like he was like i like how do you know why are you watching starship troopers you're like eight years old and they were like oh we

watched it with our dads he's like oh whatever i don't know if you should be watching man dude i was actually going to say it earlier this is one of those show another one of those tn t Like if it's on T&T. I remember this being on on on like, yeah, T&T or or USA or whatever. All the time. And so you and so like I feel like this is one of those movies that I like as a kid, especially then, right? Like no DVR or anything.

I never watched like the full movie. Yeah. I just only ever saw bits and pieces. But I never saw it like because it's too long, you know? Especially on TV. Like when you had commercials, that's like almost three and a half, four hours long, you know? And so, like, it's, I don't have time for that or the attention span for it. So I'd watch bits and pieces of it.

You know what movie was like that for me that I actually just, I just watched the other night. Because it's one of my favorite movies, uh, a league of their own. Oh, I love that movie as a kid, too, with, with Tom Hanks was great. That's one of my top five favorite movies of all time. I fucking love that movie. Rosie O'Donnell is in a bag in that. Rosie. Yeah.

Rosie O'Donnell and Madonna in that. that movie the way their characters play off each other is top much yeah but i i remember as a kid that always being on like t-n-t or whatever and again tvs the the i must have watched it like 10 different times all 10 like starting in starting in a random spot or you know fits and pieces yeah and never seeing the full thing and then you know a couple years later like finally watching the full thing sitting down um on oh it's that's one of my favorite movies is awesome i have a uh signed a league of their own poster on my wall. It's from, I forget what's the name of the actress,

but you remember Evelyn? She's the one who has the kid, the, that brings the kid with her. And she's the one that Tom Hanks makes cry, and then he flips out, and he's like, there's no crying in baseball. Yeah. I have a signed movie poster from her,

and it's inscribed, there's no crying in baseball. That's fantastic. sake where it's one of my price in anything else I feel like she's in a couple other random things are you talking about Evelyn or are you talking about the main girl because the main girl the main girl

is Gina Davis and she's in everything yeah not her the the Evelyn girl I don't know let's I don't remember her being in much else uh biddy Schram what a name

Betty Schramm oh it looks like she was a regular on monk is that way you're remembering? No, I wasn't a big monk guy. No. Let's see here. I think

she was on one episode of Ghost Whisperer. She was, yeah, that's about it, nothing else. Must have been something else random that I... She was on three episodes of Felicity. I've never watched that show.

um yeah i don't know i don't know what you're thinking of then but biddy shram good old evelyn there's no crying in baseball heath god i love that i love that fucking movie tom hinks as the drunk coach is amazing top notch he he does kill anyways all right so back to starship troopers starship troopers heath what a what a movie what a movie I loved it. I thought it was great. I thought it, like I said, I thought it, I know it didn't do like staying close to the.

I just don't know how they would have like in 1997 like stayed that close to the book while also making it available to like without pushing it past. What is? Is it rated art? Like. Oh, that's a great quote. Yes, it is rated R. You're right. Yeah.

Like I don't know what else. some of most of the stuff it would have like the the gore or whatever it would have pushed the rating too far in the wrong direction so i don't know i just i thought it was great i did i think they did enough of the gore the gore yeah they topped out at the gore um from what i read though a lot of the they made a lot of like weird little silly changes i think like in the in the book dizzy is a is a man right and there's no love story He's just like a best friend or whatever. No, is it? I thought I thought I read that.

I could be wrong. But I thought that was one of their, one of the changes they made. But again, I've never, never read the book. I was just going off of what I read. But from what I read, they just made like a bunch of small shit. Like, I believe Johnny Rico is not from Buenos Aires in the book, right? He's like Filipino. No. No, you're right. It's it's it's just he's it's just bros.

Dizzy's just bros. Just bros. Just bros in a communal shower. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's like no there's no like real love story at all in the book. It's just about RICO. Yeah. You know, making this way through through a, through a fascist army. Yeah. I mean, I just yeah, that's crazy. I think they could have. I think they could have. I think they. they like I was saying this is very similar to scream to me and how subtle the how subtle and really well done the like the parodies and the critiques here are I think they could have been a little more overhanded with the with the critique on on fascism because like like I mentioned I was kind of reading for the bugs because I don't I don't know if the bugs were the bad guy I know the humans are not the good guys in this movie that's for fucking sure um and I think they they I think they went too subtle with that I think they could have been a little more heavy-handed because from what I was reading a lot of people it's it's like

fight club where a lot of people are a lot of people are missing the message here when the in this movie the the the message rise that's the same the humans do the like treat their military the exact the same you know like their infantry the human infantry is treated the exact same way on both humans and bug side yeah exactly i yeah the i yes exactly it's there's very little difference between the two the the two warring parties here they're they're pretty much the same there's no there's no good guys yeah they're just bad guys killing each other taking over space but Yeah, somebody's got to do it, right? Yeah.

You know, you don't want to get political here, Heath? You don't want to, you don't want two of the dumbest people in the world talking politics right now? Yeah, I have, and I have no mental capacity for the subtlety needed to speak eloquently enough to not. I see, we, the actually analyzing the war and the fashion critiques of this franchise and this movie are way above our parents. great yeah and you you no one wants to hear that and you shouldn't listen to either of us we are not equipped the only thing you should ever i mean you you should definitely listen to us yeah um movie recommendations we always give great movie recommendations even even then you can do i will say you should always listen to us because i want you to listen to the podcast but you don't necessarily

need to hear us you know great background yes you don't you don't need to take in what we're saying it's it's a lot of nonsense it's a lot of fluff especially when it comes to like actual important things i don't know anything i'm a fucking dumb dumb yeah it's just you know i'm just uh just a 40 year old dad making his way through life the american dream i guess i don't know i feel like i just cannonballed back into the matrix right now just have you have you started back yet no no and i'm terrified because i'm exhausted this move has taken everything out of me there's still shit everywhere too like it's a bummer like it's that's gonna take a long time i know i got to get my office set up i've got 12 days i got 12 days

there you plenty of time yeah okay he's i think i think we covered i don't do you have anything else on this i don't know no let's do let's do cakey ratings we probably rambled on a little bit at the end that you can cut but um a great movie i'm not i'm not cutting a fuck thing dude. I was 11 when this movie came out. So by the time it was hitting the like, you know, the,

the cable networks or showtime and stuff, the video stores, I was renting this thing because it looked awesome. This was my first time ever watching it. This skipped right over me. Like I said, because I wasn't a fucking nerd when I was, what I would have been seven,

six or seven years old when this came out. And, Hey, space and booze, whatever. That's fine. Too busy, too busy thinking about titties, dude. You would have had some in this movie. I know. That's, that's my biggest regret is fucking eight-year-old Brandon would have loved those scenes, dude. Woulda love dizzy. Oh, I love dizzy now. Eight-year-old Brandon would have had a, would have had a, I don't know, a conruption. Is that right? Connipion.

Connipion. Is that even what I'm trying to say? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, a fit of hysterics. 8-year-old Brandon would have had a fit of hysterics with Disney, dude. What's your, what's your, what's your, what's your, Kiki? You go first fucking, you fucking, you fucking, I'll say, such a curve, dude, that's you. I'll say 3.48. 3.48? Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. It kind of lost me towards the end. I got a little burn out. No, no, no Dawson's Creek. No, not, dude. Listen, this. the letdown of like going from Dawson's Creek to this was palpable.

The vibes just weren't there, man. I'm going to go. I feel you. It's, I enjoyed this movie. It was, it was a fun realm. But like you said,

it drags a little. I think it was two hours and nine minutes. We probably could have cut those nine minutes. 2.15, it said on, on the internet. Oh, IMDB, I think, says two hours and nine minutes. Well, whatever.

Probably could have taken off those nine minutes and then nine more. Like I said, this tone-wise, I think this fits perfectly in that like scream niche, where it's like very subtle, well-done parodies and critiques. granted scream way fucking better movie i'm going to give this a 3.1 nice yeah not great but uh definitely if it's definitely watch it i i watch it on to b i don't know how you watched it is that how you watched or not tv i watch it pluto yeah Pluto t dude Pluto tv is pretty legit dude i love Pluto tv uh for the the channels it has um are fantastic i in one like Like when I use channels. Yeah, yeah.

It's not just on to me. It has like channels that they're constantly playing. Oh, I think I, Bill Simmons talked about this on one of his podcasts. And they have like the most random channels. They have a, they have a, they have a TNA channel, T and A wrestling channel. And it just plays TNA 247. It's amazing. It's fantastic.

They also have, uh, there's like an MLB channel that plays, uh, when it's the off season, it plays like old games like great games and then during the season it plays like you know those weird like MLTV like recap things dude but doesn't it have like like rambo channels and stuff like that too or just like like themes not not like specifics but like themes where you're going to get like i don't know 80s action yeah yeah there's definitely like 80s action 70 there's there's any decade in genre you can think of there's a channel and it'll play like you know movies that fit that and then they also have like they have uh ones with like tv shows too so they have like you know tv sitcoms and it'll play like king of queens oh nice um oh dude i started watching that again

terrible show but i love but you know i yeah i love a little kevin james you do you do i i'm a sucker for lea remini i and i and i i jerry seinfeld dude crushes in that show i used i used to watch king of queens all the time and yeah jerry Seinfeld as arthur is one of the greatest like sitcom comedic performances of all time yeah he's it's like for how good he was in Seinfeld he's a thousand times better in king of queens he elevated that show to like a whole different level without him it's the worst sitcom ever but with him it's it's it's uh very doable very doable uh yeah he's he's amazing to be yeah pluto tv highly recommend uh because that when i leave the the dog in here by himself i just put that on and it constantly runs

and you know uh it's good yeah it's got channels for everything tv shows movies sports like the t-n a channel is my favorite because it'll i'll put it on and it'll be like you know a random 2010 pay-per-view you know with like sting and curt angle and you're like Oh, I was thinking it was just boring stuff, but like it's like paper views. It's like old paper views. Every once in a while they'll do, because they don't really have any new stuff. I think the newest thing that I've seen is like two years ago. So like every once in a while they'll play like an impact episode from like two years ago or stuff like that.

But the vast majority is like old ass paper views. Love that. All right. What's your cakey rating for this movie, Brandon? I already did that. you just not what did you say I said three three point one he's paying attention come really say that yeah I'm so sorry