The Cake Eaters - 133. Bring It On

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

There must be some Cake Eaters in the atmosphere! Heath and Brandon talk through the 2000s teen classic Bring It On. The boys discuss the vibe of the early 2000s, Bring it On's cultural impact, sp...irit fingers, famous Nebraskan Gabrielle Union, vinyl collections, and the sheer amount of amazing one-liners in this movie.Follow us on Instagram @thecakeeaterspodEmail us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's not worth winning if you can't win you! You got to do the actual class. Go on. Do a test clap. See, if it'll register here. Never mind. Yeah. See, I, dude, all right.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Now you're ready for me to go? I mean, just because you fucked up your mic settings so you can't hear a clap, it's not my fault. It would have been way cooler. Right, dude, saying it is the coolest. I said burr, clap, clap, clap. It's cold in here. There must be some Toros in the atmosphere. I said, burr, it's cold in here.
Starting point is 00:01:11 There must be some clover's in the atmosphere. I said, oh, we, oh, weo, ice, ice. Oh, we, oh, we oh, we oh, ice, ice. Ice, ice. Break it down. Brana-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dha. solid amazing wait what's the
Starting point is 00:01:33 you're a natural he's natural wait you know what else I'll say which other one I love that's all right that's okay you're gonna pump our gas someday that's all right that's okay you're gonna pump our gas someday I don't I don't remember the other team's cheer
Starting point is 00:01:48 right before that but I loved how they turned around flipped up their skirts and their their underwear said you suck yeah classic Dude, this movie was like, what year did this movie come out again? This movie is perfectly the year 2000. It's every, every scene, every character. Dude, shout out Gabrielle Union.
Starting point is 00:02:13 The outfits, the hairstiles, the soundtrack, the one-liners, the vocabulary. There's so many, they drop the, they drop the F, not fuck, but the other F-bomb. The British term for cigarette. So many times in this movie. It's insane. And most of them are dropped in an endearing way, question mark. It's like, have you seen the, have you seen the, like, TikToks if like the old, it's like old guys that are like stuff that used to be gay or something like that? And it's like it's like it's like the most random stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Like it's like it's like not putting your shopping cart back. You know? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. Like, and it's like a whole TikTok thing, but it's like, you know, stuff that was like you would say to someone that actually didn't mean what it means today. Yeah. Anyways, that that always like made me laugh because they'd be like anyways. This movie though, Brandon, was everything the 2000 should be. It was like I was just going into high school.
Starting point is 00:03:25 So like I was like graduating eighth grade. Like I was finishing up eighth grade in 2000 going into high school. So like I was like, oh my God, high school, man. It's going to be great. Bring it on. I was in fifth grade when this came out. And I vividly remember watching this with my cousin. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah. Yeah, and he was, I don't just remember how old he was at the time. He might have been like a junior in high school. He's a much older cousin. But so this was his like right, right in his alley for sure. But I remember him being like, he was like babysitting me. And he was like, oh, you want to watch a movie? Let's watch Bring It On.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I mean, definitely not wildly inappropriate for a fifth grader. No, oh, no way, dude. Like fifth grader, if you're having an older cousin. babysit this is perfect older cousin babysitting movie classic like brother let me do you a favor here my young friend let me let me put you on to some shit here yeah yeah like he's doing you a solid but this this was i can't remember the the girls in my grade there's a couple of them that love this so these were always in like rented you know it's like hey what do you guys do this weekend i think i've said it a million times like we used to just
Starting point is 00:04:50 rent movies go over to someone's house and watch them this was always getting rented oh this was a even even by the time i was in high school so like uh like 2005 2006 this was still like six years later was still a go-to like you know group hang movie night thing yeah even even even even out of i feel like well because like it's it like it's funny for the boys but But it's like if you like it's an easy A, right? Like if you are going to pick a movie and you have a group of girls. Another another great another great movie though. Dude, I've just watched that with Kelly not that long ago.
Starting point is 00:05:33 That's a fantastic movie there. Their family dynamic is hilarious. Stanley Tucci in that movie is the he's a plus. Yeah. When the kid's like when I he's like I'm atop. He's like, what? You're adopted. He's like, who told you?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, so good. But anyways, this is a movie where, like, if you and the boys are renting a movie for your gals and you don't know what to get and you don't want to upset or rock the boat, bring it on. Clueless is another one. That's it. There are two movies. Ten things I think about you, I feel like is in there, too. I'll say, don't get me started on Clueless. I love Clueless.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I have the soundtrack to Clueless on vinyl. that's actually incredible brandon like that's it is it like a cool vinyl or is it just normal vinyl like the actual vinyl it's just it's a normal look at dude i i really like sometimes when they spice up the the vinals you know like it's it's it's kind of neat yeah kelly was kelly was really admiring my macho man randy savage be a man uh rap rap rap album vinyl it's uh pressed on a bright orange nice vinyl you know did you it's it's still sealed that's a call i was like that's a collector's item we don't listen to that one you tell like my elvis 68 special what's up let's see did you tell kelly i have the uh fast and furious soundtrack on vinyl too
Starting point is 00:07:10 God, oh, we got it. So I, there's a, there's a record show here this weekend. And I really wish you were just like, we don't know, like seven hours closer. We would have gone, man. We would have gone. Remember, remember that coaching football final we found? I regret. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I think about it every day since. I regret not getting that so much. Yes. That is, dude, that's like I, I'm so glad that I got the Hobbit movie with the, the with the with the with the book the the rankin and bass hobbit movie on vinyl like with the accompanying book if i if i wouldn't have bought that i would be in the same boat i'd be thinking about it to this day wish and i would done it for the listeners we were at a like a record show or whatever where they have a whole bunch of vendors and we found it was the same booth that the hobbit one was right
Starting point is 00:08:04 yeah yeah i found it was a an NFL um football vinyl record and I pulled it out thinking oh this is going to be like the NFL film score or like you know the background music that they play in you know the highlights or like ESP or whatever um and I flipped it around to read the track list and it was no music it was just instructional NFL like 1970s NFL coaches talking to to you about how to coach football on vinyl, which is wild. I regret not getting that so fucking much. Probably going to learn a thing or two as well, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Probably would help your NCAA football playing. I believe I, I believe I told you this when we were leaving Heath that it's probably a good thing that I didn't buy that because if I would have, uh, guaranteed by the time of this recording, I would have been a national championship head coach. there's there's no chance that if I bought that I'm not a Hall of Fame head coach by now
Starting point is 00:09:17 there's no chance I mean you're going to be you would have been coaching from the stands of every Broncos game to just an annoying level no they would they would have hired me they would have heard me coaching from the stands and they would have been like fuck the Sean Payton guy
Starting point is 00:09:32 we have to get back to the movie it's relevant we'll watch this perfect segue, bring it on cheerleaders for the football team. Did you clock that they mentioned the football team has never won a game? Yeah. Yeah. In the, yeah, like, well, because they say it like the football team's talking shit.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Like, dude, he's like, yeah, I just like secretly fingered a girl while I was supposed to be doing a hole while you were getting your ass kicked on the field. Like we're not the same, bro. They're like, it's the first game they show in the movie. they lose like 48 to nothing. And as they're walking to the locker room, they're like calling the cheerleaders gay and making fun of them. And the guys are the cheerleaders are like, dude,
Starting point is 00:10:19 you just lost by like 48 points. What are he doing here? Your shit talk isn't hitting, bro. Yeah. But okay, so to get back fully on track here, Heath, bring it on. Bring it on.
Starting point is 00:10:36 The 2000s classic started kicking. Kirsten Dunst. Do you? I love when Gabrielle Union and Kirsten Dunst are like, we better bring it. No. Oh, you bring it.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah. And then that's like, is it not another teen movie where they make fun of that? And they're like, oh, it's been, oh, it's been brought.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Well, you will better bring what's been brought. And I will brought what's been brung. I did love how they're, they're doing that. It's like right after, um, Kirsten tries to give them the money to go and Gabriele Union rips it up.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah. And she's like, make sure you bring it during the competition. Don't give us like a charity, a charity win. And then Kirsten Dutz goes, oh, we'll bring it. Don't you worry. And then Gabriele Union goes, I never do. Dude, Kirsten. We ought to talk about Kirsten Duntz, Jumanji, bring it on, Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I thought she was just an epic actress. Like she crushed Jumanji. And you're, your, uh, many interview with a vampire. I believe her first role. Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:48 with Tom Cruise, right? And Brad Pitt, yeah. She was Brad Pitt. I don't remember that one very well, but she was the little, the little girl vampire. I believe that was her, her first,
Starting point is 00:11:58 her first big one. But yeah, Curseid Duns is a fucking phenomenal actress. Cushing baller. Bring it on was just next level, though. Yeah. This so before we get to do it, Heath, there's, I know there's not a, not a goddamn chance that you know why we're doing this movie. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:20 What the, what the mighty-ducks connection to bring it on is. Endlessly trying to figure this out with Kelly because she asked me, Kelly asked me, she's like, he. How? Do you want to know? You're ready? Are you ready? I'm ready. So Nathan West, he plays Jan, the straight cheerleader, the dude, finger in girls.
Starting point is 00:12:42 That's Nathan West, okay? Okay. Okay. You may recognize him from another movie, Miracle, where he plays, does he play Jacket? He doesn't play Jack O'Callaghan. Who does he play in Miracle? Probably should have had this pulled up, but. Yeah, sound like a real fucking twat right now, bringing him.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So he's also in Miracle. He plays Rob McClanahan in Miracle. He's the dude that Kurt Russell calls a pansy ass or a candy ass when his elbows hurt. But so his connection to the Mighty Duckiverse, do you want to take a guest? Do you have any idea? No, he's probably an extra in one of the movies. He is uncredited. I will tell you that.
Starting point is 00:13:30 He is uncredited in Mighty Ducks 2. Okay. He's uncredited Mighty Ducks 2. But he is the goalie for Team Iceland in Mighty Ducks 2. Jesus. That's a real stretch, Brandon. How is that a real stretch? He's the goalie for the opposing team.
Starting point is 00:13:59 In ICE? For the, for Team Iceland. Iceland he's the guy he's the goal what really he's plays the goalie for team Iceland I forget the dude's name he's the one who uh when uh is it read he he gloves reads puck and then he takes it off and it's get my duck smoothies all mixed up he's got the fucking hand yeah puck print in the hand no shit it's the put no kidding brandon I you for you for you because like for me just right now with my brain barely working i was thinking three i got my
Starting point is 00:14:41 movies cross-pollinated and i was thinking gunner you were thinking scoot good old scoot yeah i think but i was thinking gunner was the goalie gunner stall but he's not no no yeah yeah yeah yeah the goal the goal the goalie of team iceland um i don't they he's uncredited um I don't think they, I know that he has a name, obviously, because they put a name on the back of the jersey, but I don't remember what it is. But he's uncredited as the, but he's the Iceland goalie from the Mighty Ducks. D.C. So that's our Mighty Ducks connection is Nathan West. Jam. How you go, you're going from Iceland goalie to, you know, finger and cheerleaders.
Starting point is 00:15:29 What a, what a life. Well, what a, Jesus, what a journey. Um, the big big red. Um, the girl that the girl that plays big red is in she's out of my league. She's like his old girlfriend that he pines over Marnie. Yeah. And then I always think of her in horrible bosses or not horrible bosses. She's in horrible bosses too, but I think of the other guys.
Starting point is 00:15:57 She's, uh, Francine. Yeah. Lindsay Sloan is their name. Yeah. yeah yeah she's in uh she has bit parts in a million shows like how i met your mother um just you name it entourage she's in uh she's in a couple episodes of psych too psych yep i was gonna say that one psych yep yeah she's in horrible bosses is she is she charlie's wife and horrible bosses i think so i think that's who she is yeah well no she's fantastic uh fucking big red
Starting point is 00:16:32 dude god damn big red just a real piece of work stealing from the clover's stealing cheers she was only borrowing in okay just a just a quick cite her sources so it's just a quick barringed plagiarism it was it was not in mLA form that that's for sure that's for sure um this fucking movie though uh the the opening i love i what's your favorite scene because i think mine That's fucking hard. It is hard. I think the scene that like I always remembered most as a kid and the one that stuck with me most when I first watched the movie was when the Clovers show up to the football game and start doing the cheer along with them. I just remember watching for the first time being like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And of course, we haven't even talked about her yet. How dare me as a Husker. Gabriel Union. the Husker, the corn husker. She loves the University of Nebraska corn huskers, Brandon. And we love Gabrielle Union back. Oh, yes. I know we've talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I don't think she actually went there, but she might have like gone back when she was older. It's going to wear Wikipedia's here. So born in Omaha. Yep. But yeah, she went to UCLA. Yeah. but she reps the Huskers hard.
Starting point is 00:18:06 She even made Dwayne Wade go to a game one time. And Nebraska sucked. Dwayne Wade. What a, what, probably the, what the third best best, heat basketball player now?
Starting point is 00:18:19 Behind Bam, Bam out of Bayou? Well, I mean, and she'll deal, obviously. We won't even get into how the league rigs that finals for the heat against the Mavs. That was pretty, that was rough that was rough to watch is that the one dirt is that that's the one dirk won right no the one he
Starting point is 00:18:38 lost the one that he won who did he beat when they lost or when they won i'm sorry who'd they beat when they won't that like when it was dirk beat lebron and bosh that's right he did he did that's right yeah but he lost he beat one of the heats but not the other yeah he lost to shack dway the lonso morning gary peyton oh the glow that's right i forgot the Glove was on our team. Yeah, yeah. With good old Pat Riley at the helm. Fucking Pat Riley, dude. That's taken up. Was that
Starting point is 00:19:09 was that one he took over midseason for Stan Van Gundy and then they won a championship? Oh, so shitty. Oh, I don't know. I forget. Pat Riley is a fucking son of a bitch, though. Dude, one of my, so I, obviously I had a lot of love
Starting point is 00:19:25 for Gabriel Union as a kid. Like, she was a Husker, loved her in all the movies, Cradle to the grave was one of my favorite movies as a kid. DMX, Jet Lee, Gabriele Union. It was a banger, Brandon. I loved Cradle to the grave. Cradle of the grave is a good one.
Starting point is 00:19:47 She's also in, she's in one of the movies you mentioned earlier, 10 things I heard about you. She's in that as well. Yep, yeah. She's great in 10 things I hate about you, too. Is she, I know. Bad Boys 2.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I know for sure she's in bad boys too. She wasn't in the first one though, right? That was because that would have been before this. That would have been. Yeah. Yeah. I think she just bad boy, dude, bad boys too was so good. I like bad boys too, I think better than the first one.
Starting point is 00:20:12 We've, we've definitely talked about this before about how much I love every single bad boys movie. Even the even the newer ones top notch top notch. Bad boys. Michael Bay and bad boys, they just he gets it, dude. They fucking get it. You know. Dude. yeah that's um but gabriel union and the clovers they they were i loved the clovers i loved when they
Starting point is 00:20:37 they were so good they were so good and i told you offline but that's it kelly loves this movie and um she wanted me to tell the audience that you know they the clovers tested so highly with the audiences when they were sampling the movie that they added it back in a whole bunch of scenes um to make the clover's a little more prevalent in the movie that makes sense Because they're, I mean, Gabriel Union is magnetic as a matter. Yeah, she just, yeah, she pops off the screen. She steals everything. Yeah, she can't help it.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. And so yeah, it makes sense. Even the, all the, all her little, her, all the other clover's, the little sidekicks or whatever. Yeah. They were the little shorter one with the high pitch, high pitch, squeaky voice. You know what I'm talking about? Like she was great.
Starting point is 00:21:25 She was great. The, the one that was always trying to fight people. She was great to. They were all fantastic. I loved lava. That was one of their names, lava. Yes. I loved how they did like the old 90s, early 2000s talk shows.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Janelopee is the one I was talking about. That's her name. Janelopee. No, Genelopee. What a name. All right, keep going. Sorry to interrupt. But I loved how they do the Paulette talk show.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They get her to give the sponsor the team so they can do the competition. that whole talk show scene was amazing. And then I think it was lava that is like, we love you, Paulette, you don't got to lose a single pound. So good. The Clovers were amazing. Gabriel Union, top notch. But yeah, so to show from the beginning here,
Starting point is 00:22:24 the opening sequence is amazing. One of the best opening sequences, I think I can think of, especially in like a teen movie. where she's uh it's like a you know they're doing like it looks like a pep rally that they're cheering at yeah and they're all like going back and forth and and you know talking about how cool they are um big red has the what is she i forget exactly what the cheer was um but they're all doing you know funny little little oh i i'm sexy i'm cute i'm popular to boot great great uh i okay i found them i found all the first lines here it's big red she goes i'm
Starting point is 00:23:02 sexy, I'm cute, I'm popular to boot, and then they all kind of chime in and they're, I'm bitching, great hair, the boys all love to stare. The intro to the movie is so good. Epic. And then she, I love how big red comes back like two or three times. And she's like, I'm big red. I'm still big red. And then of course it ends with Kirsten Dunst losing her top.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And then she wakes up and you realize it was all a dream. peace all a dream but so big red is the outgoing cheer team what it sorry what a terrible dream to have though did you ever have those dreams as a kid like where you went into public and you were naked it's I never had I never had naked those naked dreams I still
Starting point is 00:23:51 to this day have like missed a test dreams though I have those all the time yeah yeah then I have to wake up and be like, Brandon, you're not, you're not in school anymore. You know, you, he graduated, uh, fucking 10 years ago, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:11 But he had never had the, the naked dreams. So, yeah, she has that. Uh, and that, that introduces us to all the characters that we have. Obviously, we have, we got Big Red who's the outgoing sheer captain and she, uh, appoints Torrance, who's Kirsten Dunst as the new, uh, captain. I love how they're the Tor Rose and she's Torrance
Starting point is 00:24:39 That was giving me giving me a You know a chuckle And then we have Courtney and Whitney Who are the two like Sidekicks that are like trying to undermine her They're the the problem childs Of the cheer group
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah You got Darcy and Casey Jan who we mentioned Nathan West or boy less Who's the the gay cheerleader And then then we get car carver did you recognize who carver was because carver was in a bunch has been in a bunch of stuff it's uh bianca ahjlitch i don't know if that's how you say it right but she was in um
Starting point is 00:25:20 she was also in 10 things i hate about you she was in uh what was she was in uh what's the fucking rules of engagement did you ever watch that show that's the one i was oh no kelly um That's the David Spade one, right? You know what I remember from is undatable. It's a terrible show that I loved with Ron Funcius, isn't it? Oh, I love me some Ron. Love me some. Oh, that's with Chris Delia, though, the fucking part of it.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, he got canceled, so. Well, he was, he was, rightfully so, I believe, right? He was sexually harassing, like 12-year-olds or something like that. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I think it's safe that they're all terrible human creatures that we hate. But yeah, Bianca was in a bunch of stuff. So I recognize that. She's also in a psych episode.
Starting point is 00:26:11 A lot of psych crossover on Bring It On. I love that. So those are all, and Carver is the one. So Torrance is promoted, it's her senior director. She's promoted to cheer captain, Heath. And what does she do on the first day as cheer captain? She almost kills a girl. Poor Carver takes a tumble.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I love how they, They put a neck brace on. They carted her off in a stretcher in an ambulance. And then you find out a couple of scenes later, all she did was break her leg. You never know. You can never be too careful. So that's how we said. So she's your captain and Carver goes down.
Starting point is 00:26:55 So we need to find a replacement, Heath. And who could be our replacement? I believe it's Courtney and Whitney that have, is it, it's like Whitney's husband? Or is it her younger sister? Yes, and she's the little, she's like 12 years old. Yeah, she looked like she was like 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:27:16 She was very, very tiny. But so they want her to take the role. I think the, the rationale they give is that she's so tiny, they can just throw her up in the air real easy. Yes, that is the rationale. Now, dude, the tryouts were fantastic, but the dude that comes in singing the Broadway tune, and he's like, wait, is this not? This is not tipping.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Classic. But she, Eliza, the girl. Sorry. The girl that comes in and she's doing, she's like crying while she's doing it. And she's like, sorry, I just broke up with my boyfriend. I love, like, she gives them the finger and like. does like the flips or whatever and her hair in that scene her hair in that scene wild yeah wild her yeah her hair for the first couple the first couple scenes she's in is wild
Starting point is 00:28:13 because it's it's like i'm assuming she used like hair spray hair gel of some kind to like put it into like little it's wild there's i don't even know how it's not quite it's not cramps though crimps is like the wavy stuff yeah i don't know enough about hair to describe it but just go go look it up I'm sure our most dreads we have our number one demographic for people that listen to us is hairstylists so I'm sure they know what we're talking about they get it yeah but miss missy pantone is uh uh Eliza's name I love Elijah uh it's Dushku right Eliza I have no idea fifth grade Brandon was hypnotized by Missy Pantown how could you not be I mean she was amazing and then she She was the new guy. I like the new guy. And she was so mean.
Starting point is 00:29:05 She was right up my alley. She really is like the perfect kind of mean for you too. Perfect. Yeah. Missy Pantone is like my, my dream girl. Yeah. She is the exact kind of mean that you would want.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And then the move, the show dollhouse, I never got into it, but I wanted to because she was so good. I never I never watched it either I might have to go back now take a take a peek I wonder if it's on anything Probably not right maybe I mean who knows what's on stuff anymore It's fucking impossible trying to figure out how to watch bring it on was tough It was it was it was tough it I uh if anybody is watching it I so I went to the other night I went to my dad's
Starting point is 00:29:57 place he he's out of town so I was I was house watching for him and he he he he still has a massive amount of DVDs. He has like all of his DVDs. And then when I, I have all of my DVDs that I used to have, I just left at his house. Now they're his. And so I was, I got there and I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:16 let me check, check of Bring It On's in this. It was not. I couldn't find out. But, uh, I was really open for it. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:26 Dall House is not on anything for free. It looks like you can, you can buy it on, Apple TV. But. Oh, well. But, yeah, Elijah Dushku, amazing. Every, I said earlier,
Starting point is 00:30:43 Gabrielle Eugian steals every scene she's in. But her, Krista Dunst and Eliza Dushku, in my opinion, all have near flawless performances. They are so good in this movie. Yeah, the three of them play incredibly well. off of each other.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yes. Tons of chemistry. And they play their characters perfectly. Like each of them embodies that specific character and brings it to life perfectly. Yeah. Top-notch casting from whoever was in charge of that. I don't care. I don't care enough to look it up.
Starting point is 00:31:21 So no. But, but yeah, so she comes in. She's a gymnast. Her and her family moved from L.A. So we're in San Diego. Heath. We're at Rancho Carnay High School.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Home of the Toros. Rancho Cucomungo. Now, Carni. Rancho Carner. I believe they do reference Rancho Cucamongo at the cheerleading competition. Isn't that from Workaholics? Well, Rancho Cucamongo is a real city, but yes. But yes, that is where Workaholics takes place. It's a Cicamong.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But we're at the fictional Rancho Carnay High School in San Diego. Diego. But so Eliza, her family moves from LA to San Diego and her family loaded. Did you see that house? Yeah. Unbelievable. And the massive backyard with the swing set. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Just her when they walked up, their front door is easily worth 30 times my current net worth. Easy. Just just the front door. I mean, now that I'm a homeowner, I have no net worth. Well, your net worth is your house. This house. Do you know how houses work, Keith? I fear like you may have been, you know, a little taking advantage of your buying a house if you don't know that a house is part of your net worth.
Starting point is 00:32:52 No, that's not this one. Oh. But so, but so, yeah. But they move from L.A. to San Diego. And she's a gymnast. Like a hardcore gymnast. And they don't have. And what is what does she say?
Starting point is 00:33:11 Hi, I'm here. Your team doesn't have gymnastics. So I have to do cheerleading and I hate you all. That was the gist of it. She did it way better. But that was the gist of it. You're welcome. Which is that that team not having,
Starting point is 00:33:31 that school not having to gym, a gymnastics team is weird to me but but yeah so she's doing she tries out for cheerleading because there's no gymnastics team and she does like a fucking 50 backflips and a handspring and a you know a wowitzer and a fucking knuckleball i don't know what i don't know anything about gymnastics um but she does it and they uh kirsten puts her on the team reluctantly because the rest of the team wants the the tiny little cousin Yeah, but Kirsten, I feel like isn't too reluctant. I feel like she's like, hey, we really need, like,
Starting point is 00:34:10 well, I said, I said reluctant just because the, well, Missy's very, Missy is reluctant about everything. That's why I love her so much. But, but. But Kierston wants her on the team, but I said reluctant just because the rest of the team does not want her. Yeah, okay. Especially, yeah, Courtney, Courtney and Whitney are fucking.
Starting point is 00:34:31 this dude fucking furious wait one of the male cheerleaders died I think there's honestly if we want to get real grim about it I think there's multiple people that we're in bringing on that have died oh yikes yeah which cheerleader died I don't know I'm trying to pull it up it was one of the dudes Nathan west I believe is still kicking
Starting point is 00:34:59 she's on Buffy that one girl God there's too many ads clicked on the wrong article but I did love so around this time Kirsten's at home she's got the
Starting point is 00:35:19 Richard Hillman is his real name sorry he plays Aaron he's one of the cheerleaders Oh isn't Aaron her boyfriend Oh is Aaron her boyfriend? Right yeah yeah Aaron's her boyfriend
Starting point is 00:35:37 yeah he's dead damn in 2009 long time ago Aaron is the the boyfriend the cheerleader the cheerleader boyfriend that goes to college and he's a real guy la douche
Starting point is 00:35:51 just I love how everybody thinks he's gay well I guess not everybody just torrents his little brother and then he's out there just banging bitches dude yeah I did love when she breaks up with him when she breaks up with him
Starting point is 00:36:09 and the girl that he's like cheating on she mentioned Kirsten breaks up with him and mentions that he's a cheerleader he was a cheerleader and the girl he was sleeping with is like you were a cheerleader? That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:36:27 But yeah, RIP to Richard Hillman. I believe if I'm not mistaken, Janelope is also deceased. yeah Natina Reid who played Janelope she is also deceased RIPE
Starting point is 00:36:41 RIPE D dude Janelope is a freaking hell of the name that's fantastic but so to get back on track here with all your sad news Heath sorry so she's at
Starting point is 00:37:00 uh torrents is at home after she convinces Missy to join the team reluctantly but there's one scene where Kirsten Torrance is at home and she's talking with her mom and I think her smarmy little brother's there her brother was a fucking riot dude yeah yeah but um she's talking with her mom and her mom's like I would would it kill you to take like an AP course or an extra you know what I just something she's like uh your your class schedule is is real daunting
Starting point is 00:37:32 here with your eight gym classes she's like begging her to take something or whatever and Kirsten she ends up I think she adds with advanced Kim but then she's talking to the mom and she goes you know some some moms kill to have
Starting point is 00:37:48 their daughter be your captain and the mom goes oh that mom didn't kill anybody she hired a hit which is great there are dude I don't know if you've ever I've caught some of it
Starting point is 00:38:06 on like I'm a big true crime guy so like you know date line 2020 all that there's it there's so much between like cheerleader and then just like normal like dance like the inner workings of those scenes I'm sure you've seen dance mom clips where everybody's screaming at each other the amount of
Starting point is 00:38:24 murders that happen in like competitive dance and competitive cheerleading staggering dude uh Dropped Dead Gorgeous when they do the very much like that. Yeah, this this movie was just the epitome of all things, 2000s. Even the even the even the what's name Cliff, Missy's brother who's the love interest of Torrance. He's the classic he was you never watched the OC, did you? No.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He was given me hardcore. Seth Cohen vibes. Adam, Adam Brody's character. He's like a little emo punk nerd guy. Oh, yeah. That guy was the worst.
Starting point is 00:39:12 He's kind of a loser. Wait, who? I was just kidding. I say, Seth Cohen is, Seth Cohen is a hero. No, Cliff,
Starting point is 00:39:24 her older brother, Cliff. I was like watching this movie growing up, I always hated Cliff. He's, he, again he does a very good job of playing that like yeah you know punk rock kid uh so
Starting point is 00:39:38 he's he's better than everybody and he's reading like fucking philosophy books in the football stands like go fuck yourself dude um did we also we haven't started talked about spirit fingers yet we got we'll get to that we can we could talk for hours about spirit fingers um i thought we are for closer to it's the end i guess i don't know this we haven't even started did you haven't even start we've we've talked for too long already we've talked for like five minutes um back to cliff though i did love how he the first day he shows up in class he's sitting next to torrance and she goes he's wearing a uh the clash shirt and she she goes oh is that your band he's like what i thought that was fucking hilarious um yeah he's a real punk rock kid
Starting point is 00:40:32 he's got all the posters uh all the the punk posters in this room he's playing guitar i speaking of early 2000s stuff um this was uh i don't know duke are kids still doing this where you put the poster on the wall no frame you're just taping it to the wall our kids still doing that because that to me is such an early 2000s thing i have i mean that's my room was covered not my room at home mama d and big mike didn't allow that kind of tack on the walls but as soon as I moved out, posters cover in my walls. Just using the tag.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Do you know what I'm talking about? Like the little tax sound? That's such an early 2000s. And it would always rip. Oh, yeah. You really, yeah. Yeah. Because I still have, I have a ton of posters,
Starting point is 00:41:21 concert posters that I hang on my walls, but they're all in frames now because I'm a goddamn adult, Heath. But I wonder, I wonder if kids are still doing that, if they're still just going poster to wall. Because I don't, to me, probably just because I grew up in that era, but that's such an early 2000s thing. And that's all over this movie. Everybody's room is just posters, no frames, just taped to the, tape to the wall.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. And, oh, the other thing when the other thing I want to talk about, which was wild to me, right? Granted, it's, it's 2000, right? Nobody has cell phones. It's all house phones. so we're leaving a lot of a lot of answering to see messages here but what I thought was fucking wild was the night
Starting point is 00:42:10 that Kirsten Torrance excuse me Torrance spent the night she stays over at Missy's place the next morning at the crack of dawn she grabs her house phone to call her boyfriend that's wild to me different times branded
Starting point is 00:42:37 at the crack of dawn she literally woke missy up because she was yelling on the fucking phone I just thought that was a while to because I guarantee you she didn't ask if she could use the phone because missy just woke up she just grabbed the house phone and was like I'm going to call my boyfriend
Starting point is 00:42:54 at 8 a.m. They there was there texting was there texting then 2000 I don't think so yeah so there you go no text like that's there's no that's the morning text brandon they had to do a good morning landline phone call that's love yeah but in the but to use somebody else's landline without like that was it long distance i don't know how far he's at college i don't know how far away you were
Starting point is 00:43:24 see that so that's the day if it was long distance then she's running up their phone bill rich or not that's a that's a social miscue you know like that's that's that's a that's a that's a misstep by her there. But, you know, if it's within the same zip go, you know, if it's not long distance pricing. At the crack a dawn, though, is my problem. Like, wait, wait till noon,
Starting point is 00:43:46 you know? Well, I'm not saying, like, you know, it's just, I'm not defending it. I'm just saying it's not. It sounds like you are. I'm not defending it saying it's a good idea. I'm just saying that it happened back then. I don't care for it.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I do not. I do not. care for it i'm gonna tell you right now here they don't care for it i do not care for it whatever if i'm the only one who has an problem with that i apologize but that that seemed so fucking wild to me oh the other thing the other thing with cliff that i loved is he so he writes her a song and then he records it and gives it to her on tape which i thought was amazing very, very punk rock of, of cliff there. I just, I just was, I'm just not a cliff guy, you know, it's just, a cliff guy, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:48 No. Are you an Aaron guy? No, no, it wasn't an Aaron guy either. I was, those are, those are our only options, Heath. I, I was neither, you know, I was, I was, I was neither. Okay. I wanted everyone to, I wanted to get everyone to go to, college and get out of this current dating pool because it was toxic.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I mean, calling out a pool is very generous. It's three people. It's a trying to try. The dating puddle is drying up quickly. Oh, gosh. We can get to spirit fingers now, though. You want to get to spirit fingers.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Okay. Thank you. Because spirit fingers was a global phenomenon. Yes. Did they come up with that? Or was that a thing before? I don't think it was the thing before because I and like also you have to remember my scope of the world was incredibly small, incredibly small. But when spirit fingers hit in this movie, it became a cultural phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Like everyone was doing spirit fingers. Yeah. Everyone was doing spirit fingers. You're almost a loser if you weren't doing spirit fingers. Love some spirit fingers. fingers so and just them bringing that guy in and him it's it's it's it's it's it's him so they said he sold it he sold it he sold it he sold that rich into six different schools i think yeah yeah it so uh before the movie similar motions were used in various cheerleading traditions to show spirit although often as a less
Starting point is 00:46:31 aggressive uh way and uh it's it's based on how you're shaking uh Oh, the palms. How you shake the pom-poms. You're just doing it without the pom-poms. Oh, my God. I never put that together, but that makes perfect sense. So they figure out that Big Red stole all the cheaters from East Colmpton. And that's how we get linked up and we start chit-chatting with Gabriele Union.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah. And so there's a whole rivalry going. Like you mentioned, your favorite scene, they come to their, the close. come to the Toros football game and start doing the cheers with them to prove that it's uh yeah um i love tell right after that she turns the team and she's like hey everybody in favor of getting a new routine uh raise your hand and then everybody in the stands raises their hand too that's great so that that's why they hired the spirit fingers guy who comes in sells his routine to six different schools they go to regionals and
Starting point is 00:47:39 the team right before they go on does the same exact routine yeah that's got to be embarrassing it's got to be brutal spirit fingers and all too yeah yeah literally but not just the same exact routine the same music too brutal um they still make it to nationals though somehow and so we have uh so they're going to nationals like we mentioned the clovers um make it to nationals but they can't afford the fee. So that's when they do, they Kirsten gets a check from her dad's
Starting point is 00:48:17 company to get to them, but the Gabriel Union rips it up and says, we're not going to take your charity, we're going to do this our way. And so they get, they do like an old 90s, 2000s talk show, Paulette. That's, yeah, it's like a spin, it's like a play on Oprah. Well, I was going to see, it was Paulette real?
Starting point is 00:48:35 No, no, no, no. Okay. Take your word for it. Take your word for it. But yeah, it was, it was, it was, play on uh i don't know if it was a play on oprah but it was just early 90s uh early 1990s early 2000s talk shows but i thought that was fantastic they gave her they gave paulette her own uh cheer outfit so they everybody's going to nationals we're we're ready to bring it heath ready to bring it it's been brought um some of these one-liners heath we mentioned how two thousands this movie is
Starting point is 00:49:17 The one-liners are amazing. There's a when to go back to the tryouts, it's after the tryout. It's after the tryouts. It might be the very end of the tryout scene. But Kirsten is talking to Courtney. Because Courtney's like, I don't want Missy. She doesn't belong on our team or whatever. She's a fucking weirdo.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And here's said, Torrance says, she has like a whole. big speech she gives her and then at the very end she goes missy is the poo so take a big whiff which was amazing what a line uh and then right before that when they're talking about uh how carver got injured and it was just a broken leg Courtney and Whitney get all upset and they're like if she gets to miss school just because she broke one fucking leg uh and Courtney goes uh or Whitney calls her a lucky bitch for breaking her leg And then Courtney goes Just get a fucking wheelchair
Starting point is 00:50:27 Classic And then I wish I could remember what's I just wrote down the quote I forget What scene it was But somebody goes Somebody's one liner was
Starting point is 00:50:46 Bring it on But plug Oh yeah dude Butt plug was a very good Insult back calling somebody a butt plug was top notch Yeah absolutely You are a plugger of butts I don't know if I ever heard anybody
Starting point is 00:51:07 Brits it like that But for Sparky and the spirit fingers He had some great one-liners to you He's the one who called Cheerleaders are just Retarded Danes serious i think is what he says yes yeah um he's yelling at everybody to go on a diet uh and corny he's like why does everybody why does everybody need to go on a diet and he's like well
Starting point is 00:51:33 because it's cheerleading when he we we throw people into the air fat people don't go high and then they can they everybody kept making fun of um what's her name they kept making fun of uh darcy they kept making fun of darcy and how big her ass was. Yeah. And then they showed it. And it was, it was, it was a not, it was a nice ass, but it wasn't like, it wasn't make fun of big, you know, just a, just a regular sized ass there.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It was above average, but, you know, nothing to, nothing to, you know, criticize people for. But that's also, this is, this is the, the time when if, as a woman, if you weren't over 75 pounds, people called you fat. Yeah. What a wild time to live through. I do not envy. I do not envy women for that.
Starting point is 00:52:30 That was a nightmare. There's no appreciation for the bodonka dunk yet. Not yet. The thong song hadn't. Ooh, actually, when was the thong song? Maybe the thong song did come out. It's close. We're close.
Starting point is 00:52:44 We're almost there. February 2000. And bring it, Bring it on since the same year. I forget when the, what's the, what was the release date from bringing on? Where is it show the release date here? August 2000. So they were, they were, they probably filmed this in 1999 before that song came out.
Starting point is 00:53:10 So yeah. We hadn't hit, we hadn't hit, yeah, but donka don't don't appreciation yet. We were still in, we were still in the skinny, you know, if, if, if, if, if, if, if anybody has any kind of meat on their bones, they were instantly fat. Yeah. What a terrible. What a terrible time to live in, dude. Like, when you look back at the 2000s and everybody, first of all, the outfits,
Starting point is 00:53:40 off the worst. And then everybody was razor thin from all the fucking cocaine and methamphetamines. It's not a good look. Not a good look. tough but watching back and just the the amount of times they're saying you know the
Starting point is 00:54:00 the the F word and calling people fat was it was a it was a good shock to the system of like oh yeah this was the early 2000s this is yeah this is you could just say things yeah like there was there was you needed zero filters actually the the less filter you have the more
Starting point is 00:54:20 encouraged you were to speak. Exactly. I'm trying to, some of the good one-liners. Oh, I love when they're doing the car wash and
Starting point is 00:54:36 Missy is like making fun of Cliff for showing up and then she leaves and Cliff and Torrance are talking and Cliff goes God, I begged my mother for a brother, or I begged my mom for a brother. And then Torrance goes, yeah, but he'd look a little ridiculous in that bikini, wouldn't he?
Starting point is 00:54:58 I thought that was great. Oh, the other thing I wanted to talk about with Aaron, RIP, he has some great lines to you. I love him when he is, it's after the whole spirit fingers debacle at the regionals, and he goes up to Torrance, and he's like, you. honey, you are such a great cheerleader. You're cute as hell. But maybe. And then he does that thing with his hands on his mouth where he's like,
Starting point is 00:55:31 maybe just maybe you're not captain material. And he's wearing that that giant fucking sweater that makes him look like a weirdo. That line delivery was perfect. Like maybe just maybe you're not. in material. Kelly did want me to make sure that point was emphasized. I almost forgot. We hate Aaron.
Starting point is 00:55:59 We just, we hate Aaron. He's the absolute worst. You said you were team Aaron at the beginning of this, didn't you? No, yeah. I don't know. I just talking shit. Oh, another sparky quote that I just remembered was, it's he's like uh it's in his whole teaching montage or whatever and missy is being you know hoisted up by jan
Starting point is 00:56:30 and he may or may not be slipping some fingers in we don't know but he he's hoisted her up and she like falls but they catch they're able to catch her like right before she smacks the ground and um sparky comes up to her and he's like uh because she's like freaking out he's like freaking out He goes, I understand you have underwear up your ass right now. But it beats the hell out of a shattered skull, doesn't it? There's so many good, like, 2000s one liners, high school one liners. Like there's Jan when they're walking through, I think it's when they're at nationals. And they're walking through like the ticket to the hotel room or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:17 They're walking through the hotel. And there's cheerleaders everywhere. he walks by a big group of them and he goes hey ladies want to see my spirit stick that's right oh dude the spirit stick dropping the spirit stick i forgot i almost yeah the curse i almost forgot about that that was speaking of which uh have you you uh did you give up on on wwee or have you been keeping up i've given up it's not if it's not available to for me to watch like raw is too much so and and and i was given up even with Peacock
Starting point is 00:57:53 where I don't want to have to pay to upgrade to not like you don't get the video packages you get commercials and that yeah well it's not a peacock anymore it's gone from well when it was when it was you're missing my boy though Danhausen
Starting point is 00:58:08 I actually I gently follow on TikTok and I saw did you did you know him before WWE? Yes yes I I'm a the fact that I'm a dead housing fanatic i love dan hausen i've passed up many opportunities to go to the comic book store
Starting point is 00:58:29 in savannah like my favorite one and get his autograph like the toy store like i just i i thought he was just i was like this guy is so weird it's just not worth my time i love him so much he's he's he's he's not a good wrestler like he's he's never gonna if if they ever put him in like legit matches they're That's not that's not his stick He's just he's a he's like a Santino Morelli Where he's just like fucking hate But I his whole thing I love With him cursing people
Starting point is 00:59:01 It's the best Yeah I'm a big big dad has a guy Very nice very evil Al State Dominiquez Hills Is where Aaron goes to college Damn I don't believe that's a real place
Starting point is 00:59:20 Anything can be be a real place if you put your mind to it. Oh shit, it is. Cal State University of Dominica's Hines. Son of a bitch. Let's see, uh, let's, let's test your theory or what you're talking about earlier. When he asked how far away he was. Two hours.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Just down the road. Just, well, actually, just up the road because it's it's closer to Los Angeles. It's north of San Diego. So, there you go. He's only two hours away. That sounds like a made-up place, though. is hills what do you what do you think their mascot is he's i got to put this in the uh oh shit what do you he what do you think their mascot is i got to put i got to put this in the bank
Starting point is 01:00:15 so i can remember add this to my my uh mascot knowledge here but do you know do you know the the mascot you want to take a guess take a guess just guess anything heath boom uh that's literally the dumbest guess you could have made Puma, unbelievable. They're the Taurus. You fucking idiot. It's on a platter for you. On a goddamn platter for you.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Quit yelling at me, Brandon. I can't take that right now. I'm not emotionally strong enough for you yelling at me like that. Oh, the other, another quote that I loved was speaking of how everybody was, you know, 75 pounds at this time. They're at nationals. They're chilling in the hotel. They're chit-chatting. And Missy goes, I don't know what's scarier.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Neurotic cheerleaders are the pressure to win. She says, I could make a killing selling something like Diet Prozac, which is a great idea, top-notch marketing. How was that not a thing? That's amazing. Diet Prozac, dude? I probably use a little bit more of that. Sign me up for that trial. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:01:43 You're all in. You're all in it. I'm all in it. Oh, ridiculous. Oh, let's fucking movie, though, bring it on.
Starting point is 01:01:52 This was such a, like you said, between spirit fingers, all this movie. The cheers. The cheers. This movie was. It's cold in here.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Like, you literally can't say it's cold. to a millennial without them going, bur, it's cold in here. There must be some toros in the atmosphere. Always. I still, I'm so glad I remember. That's all right. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:02:23 You're going to pump our gas someday. I don't know why that crap. And like the way they like make the hand symbols for like the gas and stuff. Oh, because they're they're humping it. because it's it's a sexual any window yes Brandon I know it's hilarious I don't know I don't think you got it you and you're your prude rude rude asked and get it rude crude dude but this this is a like you said you mentioned this is a perfect 2000s movie if you're gonna like if somebody like if a Jen's year came up to
Starting point is 01:03:03 you with zero knowledge of past movies and was like what like what what what's the the early what's the 2000 movie i should watch it's this yeah this is this is what you watch yeah 10 things i hate about you maybe that's up there what was the other one you said i don't know it seems like a lifetime ago but yeah but this is the movie you show them this movie is a perfect a capsule incliless clueless that's right yeah this is this is this is this more than those two but those two are great to but this is this this was like a uh it had such a cultural impact yeah for for yeah high school kids and it even i fuck i was at fifth grade when i watched it middle high school and then beyond right like the next few generations of middle school it had oh and it had a ton of lasting power like i said we were
Starting point is 01:04:02 watching it I remember watching this movie up until when I graduated high school which would have been like 2009 yeah like we said it the the the language doesn't exactly age well but it's one of those things where you can you can be like well that was that was the times yes you know um well that's just however it's talked you know yeah uh and they mean i think they've made like five four or five sequels granted they're all terrible one one has uh Hayden pinit and pinnitieri in it, Kelly like that.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Petitier, yeah. Yeah, one has Hayden Panetier. All of them are terrible. Don't watch the sequels. They're all terrible. Garbage. But this movie, what a classic. What a fucking movie. All right. Should we do some
Starting point is 01:04:50 cake eatering? Cakey ratings. Picky ratings. You go first. He's, what do you got? What do you got? I go three, point seven you know
Starting point is 01:05:06 3.9 3.9 yeah almost in the fours it's a great movie it's there's there's really nothing bad about this movie in my opinion I think it's great like it's it's the perfect teen movie for the times like it is
Starting point is 01:05:26 it's the perfect 2000s team movie I think I got to go higher do it I think I got to go high I think I got to go I think I gotta go I gotta go four three I gotta go four three Because I it's been it's been a while since I watched this movie And I watched it uh I watched it last night and I loved every goddamn fucking second of it They were yeah my notes are very incomplete because most of the time I was just sitting and enjoying it was they're not even thinking about taking notes
Starting point is 01:06:02 I was just like this is fucking awesome that's amazing um I love this fucking movie like he said all the the three Leading ladies are so perfect in their roles. Yeah. It's amazing. Sorry, Cat Jessie is headbutting my microphone if you hear any crazy noises. That's a headbutt of agreement, right? She agrees with the four three. You're on mute, by the way.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Or she unplugged it, I guess. I guess you're not on mute. She just unplugged it. Cat Jesse broke everything. Yeah, because she agrees with me with my 4-3, not your mean-ass 3-9, dude. You're still gone.
Starting point is 01:06:50 There's no, I can't hear you at all. Uh-oh, he's crying. He's crying. Right about now. Oh, there you go. Now I hear you. You're back. It's, oh, it keeps
Starting point is 01:07:02 going crazy. We got to end it. I'm just in, through my computer speakers. I don't know like Jesse did. The computer no longer recognizes my bond. and I'm actually that's a few years to leave it.

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