The Cake Eaters - 135. Judgement Night

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Heath and Brandon follow Emilio into the underbelly of 1990s Chicago in Judgement Night! The boys discuss Estevez versus Leary, the great Peter Greene, this movie's insane cast, some Cornhusker talk, and a brief return of Brandon's Parenting Corner.Follow us on Instagram @thecakeeaterspodEmail us at [e-mail]

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Nailed it. That was, what was that? Disorder by Slayer N-G? Yes. Yes. Was that the top? title track is that what you said i don't remember i don't remember that title track it says hold on it's it says what did it say in this um says uh the title track um disorder okay yeah oh this is the cake eaters podcast

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We are, we're tackling judgment night. Heath. Judgment night, 1993? Yes. I was seven years old. Judgment night. This is why we do this podcast, Steve. This is this this movie was fucking fun to watch.

It was unintentionally hilarious to me. I laughed many times. This is this is up there with turbulence as far as like some of my favorite movies that we've done. This movie is wild. I. To me this movie I just kept going how did we get here? Like how did we get here? Why did this happen?

Like this feels so unnecessary. You were talking about like the events in the movie or how did you get here? Like how did how did Emilio get in this movie? No, I understand. Why are we making this movie? So I definitely why are we making this? I actually understand why we made this movie. This is a can we get Emilio to cross over into a serious crime action movie outside of young guns?

No, that's not. So it felt like. So fun fact, they were trying to, this movie had been in like pre-production brainstorm I mean for like 15 years like 1978 I think is when they started like trying to make this movie the Amelia was like their sixth choice um yeah everybody else said no and they were coming up to the deadline where it was to a deadline where it was like we either need to start filming or we got to scrap the whole thing and lose all this time lose 10 million dollars that we've already spent um and so they came to amelio

And Amelia was like, yeah, I'll do it for $4 million up front. Nice. And they were like, well, we got no other fucking choice. It's either it's either give Emilio $4 million or lose the 10 we've already spent. So that's how Emilio got the movie. Yeah, he was like their fifth choice. That, that makes, that makes sense. It's not a perfect fit for Emilio in this movie, but it was.

I thought everybody because the other people that I saw that they like they were trying to get was Tom Cruise that would that would have been weird that would have yeah John Travolta that John Travolta that

John Travolta might have been serviceable just because John Travolta is a crazy fucking person and he might have done some shit yeah he might have came out with like a left field approach Hey what are you over here murdering people

four. Because I mean, you've seen face off, right? Face Off, he's amazing in that movie. He maybe could have done something like that. I saw, speaking to turbulence, I think Ray Leota was one of them. That would have been good. Yeah, that would have been good. But I didn't mind Amelia.

I thought the a face-off, a head-to-head confrontation between Amelia, Essevez and Dennis Leary is not something I would have ever thought of, but I am so glad it happened. Dude, that fight was amazing. I loved everything about Emilio and Dennis Leary thrown. How could you not? Like, how could you not? And Jeremy Piven did such a good job with that character, too.

Everybody in this movie in this movie is bat in a thousand. Dennis, Dennis Lerry is fantastic. Jeremy Piven's a fucking all-star. I love him so much. He's a menace. Cuba Gooding Jr. Amazing. This movie has one of my favorite character actors of all time, which is Peter

Green, R-I-P. He passed away in December. He's like the main henchman guy. He was the, he's... Oh, yeah. He's the bad guy in the mask. Yeah. Pulp Fiction. He's the bad guy in Blue Streak, I believe.

I love Peter Green. Oh, dude. Blue Streak is Tango Elgato and Los Pantelonis. Peter. Peter Green is a perfect bad guy for this kind of movie. He's, oh, I love him so much. R-I-P, but there's everybody's hitting a thousand. This is amazing. This is a crazy, almost poorly written movie that is elevated by the cast.

If these people aren't bringing their air game, this movie's a dud, but these people are fucking going for it. And you get Emilio gets into his Gordon Bombay screaming at the ref voice like three or four times where he hits that high pitched. Come on, rap. We almost took his head off. Exactly. Dude. And Cuba Gooding Jr's facial expressions, what like it just, like it'll always take me the boys in the hood. Boys in the hood.

Oh, my God. Jerry McGuire. Oh, his facial expressions are just next level in these movies. What was the boat movie? Remember he did a boat movie He was trying to do comedies Like boat trip or something like that It was oh I know what you're talking about

It wasn't This is a terrible movie It might have been boat shit Didn't he do a movie with like Huskies too Like a snow dogs With Cisco Wild

Don't act like you don't remember snow dogs I don't I didn't I might have been just a little too old For snow dogs Don't do that Cisco do they play the I think they're they play the song song in the movie. One of my favorite,

one of my favorite things about this movie is every time they're like running away. And Cuba Gooding Jr. is at least 15 steps ahead of everybody because he's so fast. So much faster. So much faster. Dude. And Cuba Gooden Jr. Just goes off the,

just goes crazy when they put him into this fight or flight mode. Then he starts killing people. And Emilio's like, what is? happening like why are you trying to die in a blaze of glory we don't have to yeah yeah he keeps trying to like me he keeps trying to like sacrifice himself dude and jeremy piven being like dude i feel like i wouldn't like he didn't really have much of a choice after the ladder broke it was either fall to his death and getting maimed or trying to negotiate yeah i do i knew they were going to throw him off the roof

but it still it still caught me off guard. Yeah, you knew he is. I thought they were going to shoot him. I wasn't expect him to get thrown off the roof. No, I figured they were going to throw him off the roof. If anything, we got to talk about that bus he rented. That was sick. That was cool as fuck.

That freaking Nintendo in it. Dude, 93, that bus was state of the art. Sick as hell. Freaking refrigerator full of beers. Come on. Surround sound system. now, dude, that in that in New York, I'm paying someone to drive it. Well, they're not driving that. Come on, dude.

They're not in New York. They're in Chicago. Still, you're, that's a party bus. You don't drive the party bus. You don't get to party. Well, he was, he was still partying. That's a problem. He had the glass of vodka on the dash. That's, I mean, that's the most 1993 thing I've ever seen.

He's like, hey, this isn't super problematic. I mean, everyone has a cup, you know. Got to have one for the ditch. That, that fucking bus, RV, whatever the fuck it was, was fucking sick. It was so cool. To have a TV with a Nintendo hooked up to it. And an antenna, because they were getting boxing. Yeah.

Satellite? Probably on HBO. My God. but a beautiful thing that was I was so jealous of that but like I said I am not driving that myself number one no no no we're it's a it's a hard that's a hard leave time too like number one that's a hard leave time if you do not show up if we're not leaving on time you're left behind you know number two I'm not driving that bus because I want to party harder than everyone else than that bus like I'm playing freaking duck hunt on the way like

Like, wait, do you think they had to have a tech mobile, right? Dude, freaking tech mobile. I'm sure. You expect me, you expect me to drive in Chicago traffic when there's a Nintendo with super tech mobile in the back. Did you guys ever have to, we had to do no Raiders rule because Bo Jackson was too good. Like it was just no, no Raiders. Like, come on, don't be that guy.

Don't freaking be Bo Jackson. Yeah, yeah. He was, he was. Unstoppable. Superman in that game. Yeah. Steve Young wasn't bad. You know, dropping some dimes.

Yeah. I usually, I usually went, um, oilers. I used to say, I usually went oilers, war and moon. War moon. Yes. A man of my own heart, dude. And those, come on, those baby blues. So it's like, that is the fact that the Titans try to do it pisses people in

Houston off. People in Houston hate the Titans. Yeah. Well, shouldn't let them move. stealers of teams but anyways yeah this this i just kept saying so many times in this movie like what's this younger brother's deal

why is he trying to fight everyone all the time like calm down you know like i mean you that's everybody's got that that friend in the group you know i mean i guess so but then also like if you don't have that friend you are that friend dude taking a shortcut in the 90 with no map and no GPS or anything, like knowing you're in Chicago with very clear no-go zones. Like, come on.

That's poor decision-making at its finest, Brandon. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, the dude does have a glass of vodka on the dash. So I guess you have a point there. And it is Jeremy Piven. You got to know right away as soon as Jeremy Piven walks in the room. we're making some bad decisions. Entourage.

Watching him before and after the hair transplant is amazing. It's like such a, like that's got to be the greatest success of hair transplants, right? Is Jeremy Devin? That's probably. Oh, God. He's just, he, you know, he does a great job. Jeremy Piven

in old school will always be and PCU do you remember PCU? Yeah yeah I freaking loved him in those movies I do want to before we before we we scoot along here in the

in the movie I want to go back to the beginning here okay back to the very beginning Okay Back at the beginning of time Emilio and his wife I am not a relationship expert

Is that why you're asking me? Yes, but well, because you're in a very similar situation here. They have a newborn baby. They're both exhausted. He wants to go out for a boy's night. That conversation got toxic and unhealthy, I felt. There seemed to be some deep-seated resentment between the two of them. I would like to know more about what's going on there.

Why do you? Is that how you and Kelly are talking to each other? Can you help remind me and the listeners how that conversation went? So she gets very upset. She's very upset that he's going out. And he mentions like it's been three months. He hasn't done anything for three months since the baby was born. He's exhausted.

He just wants to go out and hang out with it. as buds and she gets she's like she's like well i haven't done anything for three months either um and he's like he tells her he's like go invite your friend like invite your friends over like you're still watching the baby obviously so it's not like a night out but invite your friends over it's something um it was just it was very tense when it felt like it it didn't need to be um she she mentioned she hates um his friends because they're they're all unmarried and degenerates but then when they come up she uh jeremy piven makes a joke about um i thought it was a joke about sleeping with her and she's very receptive to that joke she doesn't

like get upset or anything she responds back in a flirting manner so it's like okay so she doesn't really hate them i guess so okay i don't know it just it seemed like it seemed like there was a lot of a lot of tension and resentment in their conversation about a simple night out. Okay. So I would have answered this in a completely different way before having a kid and having a new, that's why I wanted to ask you. And having in a three month old, like it's been three, dude, three months old,

like that's there, there's really starting to find their voice. And, and like, three months old, like they scream when they fart. you know and and make a big deal just of like the most simple as we all do and so god there's this is like such a loaded question brand and it's so funny that you ask it so like I said I wouldn't have

handled this completely different so I also think the reason she it's not that she doesn't like his friends that's why she jokes back with him she probably doesn't like who he becomes and how they act together with his friends like I you know there's very similar vibes to my friends and their wives where they're like like I used to be the guy that my friend's wife would be like, hey, let's maybe not go out with Heath when he's home this weekend. You know? So, so. And it's not because she wasn't the biggest fan, but she was mostly not the biggest fan of how her husband acts when he's around me.

Because we act like we did like we've known each other since. we were five years old. We had our first play date doing Hasbro action figures soon. And so wrestling action figures, that was our first playday. We rented a freaking wrestling pay-per-view at five years old. It was fantastic. Anyways, so that's that piece. Spoken Sigs in between matches.

If only, that's one of the funniest clips ever. And so that's that piece. The tension of leaving your significance. other on their own with the three month old flying solo is very real and it's it's not because anyone could even be mad at each other it's just like if that baby is having a bad day or like just having a hard time during those five hours they are grueling and unrelenting and like sometimes the decibel level gets so high that kelly's watch is like hey if this is continued you will sustain potential hearing loss.

Like, so, so you know what I mean? Like, that's like, I get you, but like. But he also needs to communicate this better. Like, if he's not doing his part, you know, like, so you have to like butter someone up. You have to prepare. You have to game plan for this. So that's what I was getting. It's, it's, it seemed like there was some deep-seated resentment.

Yeah. In this conversation to where I feel like he's being a bum-ass father, you know. not pulling his weight. Yeah, like he might not be getting up at night to help change those diapers. You know what I mean? Like, he might just be. Yeah, my point was it seemed like a really contentious, intense conversation that was about more than the night out. You know.

Yes. And like he, him suggesting that she should have had a friend over has to happen a lot sooner. Like, hey, I'm going to. You can't do that as you're walking out the door. Yeah, you'd be like, hey, I'm going to go to this event. You should have your mom or your sister or your friend or this. Because like when I had to close on the house, that's what we did. It's like, hey, why don't you have so-and-so come over as backup just in case you need to do something or, you know, like something pops up.

You need someone to just hold the baby for five seconds, you know? Sometimes it's just to hold the baby for five minutes. So you take a quick shower. Yeah. It's very simple things or go pee and just just not feel rushed. So anyways, yeah, that tension is real. That makes sense. Like it was probably a lot more leading up to it.

And he needed to do much better at communicating what was going on. That's what I have in my notes. I think there's just there's some deeper issues here where he's he is probably not pulling his weight. And we have we just we have a little bit of resentment where, uh, Um, she's, you know, she's like, well, now not, now not only are you being a bum ass, but now you're leaving. Yeah. If you're going to be a bum ass, be a bum ass while you're here. Yeah.

Like, like he should have been giving her some shifts off for naps, doing what she wants. You know what I mean? Like you got to, you got to, you got to be able to do that kind of stuff. Like, dude, no, you know, the baby loves taking a good nap on my chest while I'm playing some PlayStation. it's her favorite you know I did I think I said last time I've had to start like blocking her she's starting to really lock into the TV and so I've either too much screen time dude right like I'll look over and I'll be like oh my God you should not be watching judgment night like even though because like that's it she was watching it with me you know and I was watching her yesterday morning

and I was like oh you know what this is this is probably one and then I started watching the adventures of Buckaroo Bonsai, wild movie star-studied cast. Dude, look it up. It's an unhinged cult classic sci-fi movie with a star-studied cast. Yeah. It's a comic book character. It's terrible. It's not a good movie.

Across the eighth dimension? Dude, it's a wild concept, but it's got a lot of big characters. Yeah, it's Peter Wheeler, John Lithcloud, Jeff Goldblum, Christopher Lloyd. Yep. I'm saying. Clancy. Oh, Clancy Brown. We could do it for the podcast.

Dude, let's go. It leaves Prime in 10 days. So we're running out of time. But anyways. I'm so fucking out on Prime. Dude, I'm, I have the, because they just redid all their like tears and shit. And they essentially, they moved everybody,

whatever you had or whatever. They just moved you down to the bottom tier with that, which has ads now. So when I was watching judgment night, I had to sit through. I don't know, an hour and a half of ads. It's ridiculous. I'm out on Amazon.

Go fuck yourself, Jeff Bezos. Every, every streaming service has done that now, though. Peacock. That was the most, Disney. That was usually, Peacock was the most egregious. Usually they just, they raise your price and keep you at whatever you were. Amazon, like, raised the price and then bumped you down and was like, oh, if you want the,

you know, here's the extra raised price. I'm not on Amazon I'm out on Amazon I hope the warehouses You know get a Get a food virus outbreak Oh my God Some some flu I hope the flu bugs rough on them

Not the warehouses Just just Jeff Bezos Just Jeff Bezos Jeff Bezos needs a fucking judgment night But so Them taking the detour That went awry So I was, are you familiar with Chicago at all?

No. I've been there a couple of times. And I love the city. I fucking love Chicago. But so I was very intrigued on A, where they were, what arena they were going to to watch the boxing one. I never quite figured that out. I don't know where the boxing match was. But I was very intrigued on what part of Chicago they were in.

Yeah. They were on the west side, the west loop. They end at the Fulton Market. Yeah. I don't know if you're not, you said you're not familiar with Chicago at all. I have no idea. That's not going to mean anything to you. But they were on the west side.

West side of Chicago. Okay. Nice. Just, you know, FYI for your, for your information. All my Chicago heads out there will know what I'm talking about. Shout out. Shytown. Yeah.

Second City. That's where the big. Where Pepsi Phil is from. That's where the big office is, right? for the what for bar still sorry oh for bar still yeah that's yeah that they well they still have the one in new york yeah they also have one in chicago yeah i thought i was like what do you know the big office that's where the big office is well there's a lot of big offices did that did chicago end up losing the bears

i know there's all kinds of like they haven't made a decision yet oh they have okay i dude i there's there is nothing there's no sweet leader and funnier than the Indiana Bears and that's what I will refer to them as forever. It has to happen, Brandon. It's too funny for it to not happen. The part of the Bears. Come on. The part of Indiana they want,

they're thinking about movie to has been a ghost town, a literal ghost town for like three decades. There's no, there's no way they do that. Oh, dude, come on. You wouldn't, you wouldn't get, Brandon, you don't know shit about freaking NFL stadiums.

You wouldn't get it. freaking Indiana Bears dude the Indiana Bears let's go it needs to happen you know this needs to happen it would be the funniest thing that's happened to an NFL team I don't know I mean you have it wouldn't be the first time you got the the Giants and the Jets in New Jersey that's true the chiefs are moving out of Kansas City that's also very true you know yeah I mean that's where they have to build these new stadiums all the L. teams are in Englewood. Yeah.

Yeah, I suppose you're right. I suppose you're right. But anyways, um, yeah, this, this movie was fantastic. I, the, I didn't understand their like need to save that guy. Like I don't, I think I, I don't know if I missed it. I don't know if like I was like paying attention to the baby and not the movie at that point in time. But I think I missed why they were so hell bent. on stopping to help that guy

like that was shot and then like they just started getting hunted down well so what so what happened if you the baby's pissed we might have to go quick on this episode it's been going for a while sounds like a murder

out there can you hear yeah it's so what happened was they're driving down they're in the the west side of Chicago here they're driving down. They, like a dude,

like runs out in front of the RV. The dude runs out in front of it. And they think they hit him. Oh, they thought they hit. Okay, see, I, so I heard them say that and I was like, well, according to the movie description, you didn't hit him, he got shot. Yeah, well, so they thought they hit it. They didn't have the movie description, though.

Exactly. They thought they hit him, so they got out. And then they see him across the street and they go up to him. And it's really the brother. The brother is like, oh, we got to help him. We got to pick him up. So they pick him up. They bring him into the RV.

That freaking younger brother, dude. That guy was an idiot, the whole movie. Just a freaking dumb idiot. The whole movie. He was pissing me off, Brandon. But they bring him into the bus or whatever, the RV or whatever it is. And that's when they realized, oh, we didn't run him over. He got shot.

But at that point, the brother's like, we got, we can't just. toss him out of like we got to help him we got to take him to a hospital or something so that's why they that's that's why all that it is because they thought they hit him what would you have done i'm driving even if even if i know i hit a dude i'm driving i'm gone dude i'm out because like stopping even even the hood to help a guy that's been shot even have to know you're going to get shot like they they they can't like i don't know i don't know. You call the police.

You go to a pay phone and call the police. They didn't do. So did you catch that? They didn't have service. Well, they had service. He was like, that's when Jimmy Piven was like, oh, well, there's no service because he didn't want to call it because he's been drinking the whole fucking time. Oh, yeah.

That's yeah. He didn't want to get arrested. Yeah. And then they try later. And that's when they really don't have service. But, um, yeah, I'm, even if. Even if we're driving down that road, even if you get out and you're the guy that I accidentally hit, I'm leaving you. I'm gone.

We're done. I've told you this many times, Keith, and I tell people this all the time, I'm not a ride or die friend. I will leave you. No questions asked. I think my, the movie that the little brother's in that I'm probably going to have. to watch is space truckers space truckers yes Stephen Stephen Dorff is the guy who plays Emilio's little brother he's in a bunch stuff he's in blade he was in one of those weird Hercules movies it wasn't Hercules but it was like you know

what I'm talking about one of those weird Greek movies um say Bucky Larson born to be a star oh he's in um he's in detective isn't he maybe either that or somebody that looks like him but didn't know the the the cast in this movie is is top-notch yeah what we have did you so uh peter green is one of the the lackey guys he's the main lackey guy did you see uh one of his other lackeys the dude with the goate did you recognize him that's that's your boy everlast oh my god Eric Eric Eric Shrody, I think is his actual name.

But yeah, that's Everlast, dude. What's an Everlast song? I've seen better days. Something about stuff and things. Is that an Everlast song? So Everlast was, what's the main one? It's like, walk a mile in their shoes. Visit BetMDMDM casino and check out the newest exclusive.

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Wait, Everlast is House of Pain? of pain. Did I know that? Yeah, yeah. Every last is house of pain. He's one of the members. What it's like is what I was thinking of. What it's like? Yeah. What was the song? I've seen better days. Is that what you're thinking? Yeah. I've seen better days.

Something about stuff and things. That's Citizen King. Hmm. So I'm not even not even fucking close. but no, so Everlast is in this movie. And then, those are the big hitters. But, yeah,

so they're mobbing around, they're mobbing around, West Chicago trying to get to the boxing match. They think they hit somebody. They go, they find out he got shot. They're trying to help him out. And then the people that shot.

The boxy match, miss the boxing match all the way through. Oh, yeah. Watch some of it on TV. They get, they get ran over by the, so the dudes that shot the guy show up and they're trying to, you know, clean up their mess. And they, they wreck the bus. Emilio, there was, that's, that was the one scene where I was like, okay, guys, when they hit the bus while Emilio's driving, there's no reason for him to lose control of that thing that much where he ends up, fucking. in an alley stuck oh i thought the same i was like that wreck was wholly unnecessary

there's wild um i did let what what the fuck was the line um Dennis leery so Dennis leery is the get like the gang leader um I did see a I did see a thing about this movie online where it was like oh judgment night the the movie that takes place in Chicago in the early 90s about a bunch of white gang members. That was fantastic. Dennis, Dennis Leary has a line because they get, they hit the,

the, they ram the RV bus, whatever. Emilio drives into an alley where it gets stuck. And then Dennis Leary and his buddies break the rear window, grab the guy who got shot out of there. And then Dennis Leary, he has like a one liner after they break

the window he like fuck i forget what he said but he had a great one liner go ahead with what you were saying i'm i'm not i forgot what i was i saying what was i say i don't know dude i don't know did you are you a big always sunny in philadelphia fan no you should be you can fucking i know i watch i i've watched certain seasons we've talked about this a million times i've watched certain seasons after so after they pick up the dude that they thought they ran over that got shot and they're trying to chase down the cop

to like tell them yeah like that whole scene you can see the exterior building that they they use for patty's patty's pub and always sunny um yeah on the side of you can see um the building that they use for the exterior shops oh that is they did a terrible job with getting the security guards attention like they all handled that very poorly oh at the market yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, yeah, they, I mean, like you, I think you said this offline. This is, this movie is a testament to making the, the, the wrong decision every, every, every chance you get. Every time.

Every, every single time, him losing control of that bus at that moment in time was really weird to me. I was like, why it's, and, and, oh, this is what I was going to say, Dennis Leary, it's the 90s. They have no way of identifying you. Just let it go. Just, but you're, then, then you're forgetting. You're forgetting his rules. He has rules. Rule number two,

leave no witnesses. So that's why he shoots the first guys because he, he, he ignored the rules. He broke the rules. You got to follow the rules. He's got rules. I understand,

but this is where too rigid in your rules, right? Like, this is where it can get you sometimes. Like sometimes you have to like, like, are these guys worth, they're not going to do anything.

They're not going to get you in trouble. They're going to go. runaway hide. How do you know for sure? I do you know? They got a, I guess I just feel like Dennis Leary didn't need to hunt them down like

like that. I feel like he did this to himself. Probably. But again, making the wrong decision every time for everybody involved. Every time. Every single person.

Except for Cuba Good and Jr. No, he made a lot of wrong decisions. I'm just kidding. Dude, when the little brother froze and almost got Cuba killed, I was like,

This is very saving private Ryan where the guy lets the guy you know what I mean that was oh I hated that scene in saving private Ryan. Yeah. Rough. Yeah, the little brother freezes. That's when Cuba freaks out. That's when he's like. Yeah. You almost got me killed, bro.

Can't let that happen again. Let it happen again. I'm going to kill everyone. Both him and Piven shifted to I'm going to fucking kill. you guys real quick i'm gonna kill you before you kill me type of situation yeah see i i am i'm not a writer-dye friend i will leave you but one thing i won't do heath is turn the gun on you yeah i'll be i'll be gone by that i'll be gone it's just yeah it's something else and then yeah the the poor family they got they got caught up and you know pivin was ready to shoot a baby yeah that was

that was wild where he just went off the rails there and then finally they i did love how he he because they he they have they have the gun in like the the the one of the driver door drawers or whatever at the front of the rvue but then he gets thrown around in the crash they lose it pivot finds it and then when they're with the family he pulls it out and i loved how cuba good and junior was like you had this the whole fucking time why didn't you why didn't you use it when we needed it yeah that's you could have shot one of them at least you stick us up instead of them are you stupid yeah stop pointing the gun at the baby dude it's just uh it's unbelievable but it was uh it really was a fun movie 38% on rotten

tomatoes oh so so i some more fun facts for you yeah um somebody got killed uh in the general vicinity when they were shooting it so they had to um they had to halt production for a couple days I think while they like beefed up security. Damn. And then the big thing was it was during their like initial screenings in movie theaters. In Brooklyn there was a shooting at the theater. Um, and, uh, local, local media, uh, blamed the, the subject matter of the movie for the shooting. Oh, nice.

So they, so they pulled. distribution of the movie like a couple days into their screenings and so it killed the box office they lost any any any box office money they would have made was ruined because of that damn so they it's not not great luck

coming around but then like you said they um yeah not highly highly regarded on uh rotten tomatoes was that uh it's got a 6-6 on i mdb which isn't terrible i know but some of those

some of those are rough dude i always love the taglines on these they had a choice kill or be killed i saw what uh the movie poster thing i have has um the dennis leary quote when they're in the trains and he's like um he's like i'm gonna find you don't move don't whisper don't even breathe that's the tagline for that one but um the train scene was great when they're like hiding in the train trying to stay quiet and uh the the the one dude like freaks out on him he was like i'm a college graduate i was an all-american i could have been walter pite it's amazing and then so he he's he's screaming because he wants cuiguan juniors wearing like a leather a leatherman's jacket kind of thing yeah and so he's freaking

out because he wants that jacket he's like i never got my i lost my i don't have my leatherman jacket anymore i want it so he's like freaking out and steals the leatherman's jacket and then all they find out what uh you know train calls farther and everybody scatters and um the guys end up shooting that hobo from the train because he's he's wearing the jackets so they think it's cuba yeah and it has my it follows with the favorite line of the entire movie because dennis leary and his buddies shoot the dude then they walk up to him uh and they realize it's not cuba gordon junior and they recognize so dennis leary goes ah it's the hobo from peru hey peru what's the last time they won anything

poor for poor Purdue getting shots from Dennis Leary Purdue Purdue sucks right garbage garbage university I don't know anything about Purdue other than it's really annoying when they beat Nebraska and football they beat Nebraska and football well that's good you guys are officially a basketball school now so yeah yeah sweet 16 baby yeah let's go Nebraska how's it how's it how's it feel feels great honestly you know What does it feel like? Like a weight has been lifted?

Well, I think I broke the curse. I think that I literally told Kelly, I was like, I hope that us coming moving and me coming back to Nebraska, not only was the, the pebble that starts the avalanche, you know, like it breaks the curse for Nebraska ball. Pebble start.

That's more of a rock slide. All the time. Pebble starts the avalanche. I think I heard that on Mulan. Um, it's except I don't think that's the same. Oh yeah, 100%. But anyways, um, and now we're going to break the curse of football. It's, it's all this silly losses and stuff.

It's over. I guess it is. An avalanche starts with one pedal. That doesn't make any fucking sense. Told you. Told you. And avalanche is, Brandon. He's not,

bitch. It's, it's, it's snow. It's not that they're thinking. Have you ever made a snowball before, Brandon? You're thinking of a rock slide, not an avalanche. If the pebble starts momentum going downhill and the pebble becomes a snowball, could do anything. Or the pebble could just hit at the right spot and all that snow could come loose just the right way.

Why are you throwing pebbles? It's like the egg corn from Ice Age. I don't remember that. Like the squirrel with the egg corn and he starts all the crazy shit. Isn't that Dennis Leary too, Ice Age? Oh, it might be. I don't know. I think he's the voice of the tiger right right yeah yeah he is yeah but anyways I forgot

what we were talking about I don't know I got very upset about pebbles and avalanches it's fucking bullshit yeah oh it's uh we were talking about me breaking the curse for Nebraska sports oh yeah it's over dude Nebraska ball got their first tournament win football we're gonna be done with all the silliness hopefully it's just I I hope that this is I hope that I am the reason that all Husker sports are back to right in the world. When did you leave? Last month.

No, no. Like originally, when did you leave Nebraska? Ooh. 2010. So they were bad before you left. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. They weren't. Nebraska ball was terrible, but the football team was decent.

That was Bo Pellini, baby. Exactly. nine wins that's not at this point we'd give anything for consistent nine win seasons Brandon let's go to the tape here

go to the tape go to the tape here all right but um I don't know this this movie Brandon was pretty good it hit all it checked all the funny weird like action movies

from this time that I like to watch anyways five five and six in 2004 he's come on that's his first season wasn't it after bill callahan okay i guess 2010 you were yeah you were 10 and four thank you 2007 you were five and seven then so yeah that was the callahan years yeah i guess you didn't really hit the you didn't hit the dark days the dark dark days till like 2017 i guess yeah with mike riley and then until frosty i don't know No, man. I don't know.

Yeah, whatever, Brandon, you know, I, I think, I think this is, this is bad news for you, the Sweet 16. Because now you're officially a basketball school now. You're going to, you're the new Kansas. That's what's going to happen. Well, I mean, honestly, we're more of a volleyball school than basketball or football at this point. So. Oh, yeah. We left off with, uh, with them shooting the, shooting the hobos and then they, these guys, these guys ran so far.

These guys were running for days. And Cuba and Jr. was, you know, 30, 30 feet ahead of everybody because he's so fast. Dude, I just, there was just no strategy. It was only panic and poor decision making. How was it? And they kept, they kept like holding up in, in, like to stop and hop in a train car is a wild decision. That's not, not something I would have done. Yeah, same.

Trying to get the security guards attention at the market. was smart, but the way they executed the interaction with the security guards before. They smashed the window and set off the alarm. Started screaming. Alarm that went nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. This, like he said, this is the early 90s. It's so easy to get away with crime right now. That's it. Like, Dennis Leary did not need to hunt these guys down. No. Like, there was. Not at all.

There was this zero. percent chance that they were going to be able to identify the shooter of the guy that got shot. Yeah. What are they going to do? Ballistics reports? Yeah, right. You know how much that costs? Well, and like, you know, nobody's finding that guy's bot.

Wow. Maybe they would. Eventually. It'd be a while before somebody found that dude's body, though. Yeah. And like, that's, like, no offense to 90s detectives in Chicago, but like, you know, this isn't like a CSI investigation that you're going to see. on TV, they're probably just going to chalk it up to the game and move on with their lives.

Probably. Probably. Especially in that neighborhood, dude. Like, it's that, like in that neighborhood. Come on. Come on. Get on, send. Um, yeah, they, they, they and then hold holding up in the, um, because that's the other thing.

So they get to after the train they're running, they get to the, um, like the apartment complexes. and they're sitting there for an ungodly amount of time while there's the kid in the playground. Yeah. They run right by the kid on the playground into the into one of the buildings. So dumb. Like now, yeah, like that kid, that kid's going to dime you out 100% because there's no, there's no chance that these people that Dennis Lerry and his crew. walk up there and don't threaten that kid to tell him where you are you're getting domed down yeah 100% uh and then they go I love how the the ladies like go to the roof there's a way to

hop buildings and it's just it's the jankiest fucking ladder set up you've ever seen uh wild just kids are not using that set up regularly right like someone is dying on that yeah yeah i think yeah i can't they can't be a regularly used uh uh i don't why um and then they then they're diving through sewers they're going through the sewer and um that's when they they get into um like a big uh circular part of the sewers and that's when they're like okay let's hold up that's when cuba june cuba gooding junior goes into hero mode and he's like let's stay here i got a fucking pipe dude let's fucking let's kill these guys um and then the little brother almost gets everybody killed with his saving private riot moment um

but they shoot peter green they get one of the lackeys um and then they they escape and then when dennis leery drowns his own buddy That was crazy. And the freaking, when he's like, he just, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I hate whiners. They're just, yeah, yeah, happen, yeah. Oh, my. And the other guy's like, all right, well, you don't have to worry about it now.

Yeah, he's like, I don't think he's getting up. Yeah. He can, we can move on. He can quit being sociopath. I couldn't believe that was, that was crazy. Yeah. I knew something was coming because that guy was bugging him the whole. Oh, yeah, that dude.

Yeah, that dude. Yeah, that dude was complaining the whole time, dude. I would have got fed up to you. Unbelievable. But so, yeah, and that's when we get to the market. They're like, they get out of the sewer and they're like waiting at a building and they see a bus. They try to like catch the bus. And the bus living is like, hell no, dude.

Yeah. Oh, see, and that was the most realistic portray. Like that bus driver has seen too much in that neighborhood to let people frantically running like that onto her bus. That's going to make her a target right away. Yeah. And so that's when we end up at the market because they're trying to set off the alarm, get the cops here. They get both security guards killed. They.

What a fun little market that looked like, though. That looks like a sweet little spot. Yeah, it really did. that's cool that's cool options there they had like a sporty goods section um it was like multiple floors uh looked like a yeah looked like a great fucking time and they he uh cuba getting junior and the little brother both get shot right because cuba cuba shoots everlast and kills him but everlast gets one shot into cuba's stomach right yeah yeah that that's it yeah and then uh dennis leary the little brother is like helping Cuba Girton like you know get up and get away and

Dennis Larry shoots him in the leg yeah so now now we got got a bunch of bleeders I think they did a good job the I think Emilio did a good job with with with hiding them in the bathroom though I thought that was that was probably the one good move they made yeah where it almost didn't work out though it almost almost got caught The fight between Dennis Leary and Emilio was great. Amazing. Emilio calling out, hey, fucker, I'm over here. Well, then he's, then he's threatening to, he's threatened in to, you know, go, you know, kill his wife and his, and his, his three-month-old baby.

Yeah, that was, that was wild. That's why you don't keep pictures and stuff like that. Yeah. We should, we should point that out when, when they're on the train, the hobos are like, holding them up in order to not make noise so they give the they give the the the is hobos that's probably an offensive term right oh i'm sure isn't it unhoused or some crazy shit like that now well isn't is isn't a hobos i'm gonna get us canceled isn't a hobo specific to trains yeah hobo yeah hobo yeah hobo is specific to train hopping yeah it's probably it's probably

still not the best. There's probably, I don't know. Anyway, the trained people, they give the train people their like wallets and their watches and their money all that to bribe them to stay quiet. And Francis, who's Amelia's character, gives the Purdue guy his wallet.

So when Dennis Lewis shoots him, he's got Francis's wallet on him, which has his name, his address, photos of the kids. I did like, Dennis theory has a good one liner where he, I think it's when he's, they're in the market and he's like shouting at him trying to get his attention or whatever. And he's like, come on out, Francis. You know, I dated a girl named Francis one time.

But so the fight, the fight was pretty solid. Emilio, he throws him off the, it was like a four-story drop, right? He throws them off the stairwell. Falls down the stairwell. And then the cops are trying to arrest Emilio. I thought that was going to be Dennis Leary again with when, when. Oh, really? With the gun to the head.

I was like, he fucking survived that son of a bitch. Now, I was like, geez, is this movie just going to end in the bleakest way possible where they end up arrested, even though they weren't the ones that were. Well, I mean, they did. They did break in. that's true they did commit a crime they committed a litany of crimes on their on their their escape route here so yeah i thought it was a little too too easy how though the cop was going to arrest him and then the other cop was like he just popped his head in and was like everything's good dude and then they

let him walk did you like how cuba good junior was trying to hang out the next weekend he was like He's like, I got Bears tickets. I wouldn't hang out with them ever again. No, no, no. We are, we are, we are, we are strictly, uh, pen towels from here on out, guys. I think it's, I think it's time we retire the crew. Pen pal activity. Yeah.

Uh, what? It was a wild movie, though. Yeah. It was, it was so much, it was so much fun. I had a, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was smiling from ear to ear from start to finish. It was a lot better than I thought. Like when I first pulled it up, I was like, ooh, what are we in for here?

And then I started and then when Jeremy Pavel or wait, Jeremy Piven. Pavel, what the fuck is Jeremy Pavel? I don't know. When when he pulled up in that bus and that bus had a Nintendo hooked up to that big ass TV, I was like, oh, okay. I was, we got something going here. I was a little worried when I picked this movie. I was like this is one of those movies where it's going to straddle the line so hard.

And hopefully it falls to the right side. And it did. It did. It was I, it's, I wasn't, you know, like on the edge of my seat. Like, oh my God. I was more like, oh, my God. This is, what is this happening? Like, what is wrong with these people?

Like, why is this the decision that was made in this movie? That's crazy. Yeah. I knew we were. There's a lot of cocaine in the writer's room, though, too. I think about that this morning. I was like, my God, the amount of cocaine that was used to make this movie is probably a lot. This is, yeah, a strictly cocaine-filled movie.

I wonder, no, it's not. I was going to say, I wonder if this is a Bruckheimer production. It is not, but it feels like it. I was a little, I knew we were in for a fucking treat when they get in the fight on the, on the interstate. Oh, my God. that was scary i was like okay this is this is exactly what i was hoping for yeah i was like oh god here we go like they they get in the road rage thing where like he hits his like the try anyways it was i loved uh yeah the dude's like screaming at him cuba like breaks up the fight and he's like uh he's like

why don't you geek back in your car and take this this pretty lady home and then he looks at her and he like winks and he's like unless you want me to take you home yeah i love though so they're they're they're trying to they're getting in the fight with the with the the road rage dude and his truck and then you know they break it up they clear it out everybody is going back to their cars and the dude in front of the guy in the red truck and everybody else got out of their car too to watch i loved that yeah the dude in front of him is like clapping he's like great job bud killed it yeah yeah that's what i knew i was like this movie like i said this this movie reminds me a lot of turbulence where it's the it's the right amount of of crazy and nonsense and it's just

it's just a lot of fun it's a lot of fucking fun yeah it's worth the watch especially like i've been on these like 80s early 90 mid to early 90s like action movie kick like i and like the more unknown and absurd the the best right like i've already mentioned buckaroo bonsai like i'm about to watch kickboxer from jaclod van dam like that's next up on the list like any jcvd movie oh dude it is is is is gold mine right like it's remember sudden death yes dude these so this movie is right in line with these where i feel like they need we need to find uh this category of movie we need to find like a name for this category so that pluto can run all flavors of these types of movies on that channel. You know? Yeah. I don't know what we would call it or how we would label it, but like it's a certain

kind of movie. It's like it's because they wouldn't be able to say it, but it's like TNT during the day in the summer. Yeah. Yeah. Movies. You know, that's what it is. It's TNT during the day in the summer during these eras.

Action movies built for cable TV. Yes. Yes. exactly like anything chuck norris does not not quite direct to DVD quality like a one step above exactly oh you know exactly exactly this went to the theaters but it lives on t-n-tie you know exactly that is a perfect way to phrase it all right let's do some cakey ratings ah you go first hit me hit me with the cake I think I'm gonna do 2.94 2.94.

Okay. It went just a little bit long for me, but that also could have been the advertisements. Pluto had a lot of advertisements going. Yeah. And whenever there's pharma advertisements on a loop, I'm out. You watch this on Pluto? Yeah.

Oh, I watched that. That's what it was on. I watched it. It's on prime, too. I didn't know it was on Pluto. Oh, yeah. I watched it on. I thought it was only on Pluto.

I thought this is one of those movies. No, I watched this on Prime. That's why I was bad-mouthed Jeff Bezos earlier because all the fucking, it was, I probably watched more ads than you did on Pluto. I don't know. My ads for Prime aren't as bad because Prime I just get baby stuff. You know, it's pamper's and all that, which isn't too bad. But Pluto, I was getting all the Pharma ads. And I'm like, okay, listen, dude, if it has like, there's one of them is like you may never,

get like a tick you may get like a tick and it may never go away like uncontrolled movements oh that's one of the side effects it's like uncontrolled movements that may never go away why the fuck are you taking that yeah it's when the side effect is death okay tight sick so anyways um but yeah 2.94 i thought it was great perfect tnti movie like it's It had its flaws. There were so many times where I was like, okay, this is where, where do we go from here? Like, how is this hat? Like, where did this come from?

So it was, but it was great before Emilio, Cuba, Emily, Jeremy. They just, every, every person in this movie freaking killed it. I thought. Yeah. Like, like this, for a bad movie, the actors, like, sometimes there's bad movies where they phone it in, right? And it's just like, everyone's like, oh, this is a bad movie. We're leaning into it being a bad movie.

This is a bad movie where everyone was giving it there all, dude. Yeah, this, this is a, in a below average movie that is taken to new heights because of the performances. Like, Jeremy Piven, amazing performance, Cubigan Jr. crushing it. Dennis Leary as the wild gang leader, I was all in. All four. And then of course, of course, Emilio. yeah love amelia yeah can't go wrong

the times when he was like screaming and it got to that that when he the yelling at the ref voice was cracking me up dude so good classic so you went 2.94 yeah I'm gonna go 3 2 3 2 is what I'm going for

oh nice okay like I said this this is this is very much in the same vein of turbulence where this is one of the most fun movies that we've done that I that I think we've done. It was fun from start to finish. It's not quite as turbulence was such, such a gem that it's not as good as turbulence. Because none of the performances in this movie are as good as Ray Leota's turbulence, but it's still solid. It's still great.

Turbulance is probably the best equivalent for this movie for movies that we've done. Yes, yeah, yeah. um and turbulence was such a jam i got to go back and rewatch that because it's been i don't i've watched i got to rewatch it i haven't seen it since we did it oh damn and like this for for me this is this is the perfect encapsulation of why we still do this podcast when nobody listens to it is i'd never seen i'd never seen this movie before yeah it's like roller ball too remember watching roller ball that roller ball is another one that was up there was awesome Like those movies are what makes this

Still fun Like you know Like all the It's not like as good as some of the movies we've done Like obviously like bring it on is a great movie But without this podcast I would watch Bring It On Yeah I would have never

Never come across this movie If it wasn't for this podcast If it wasn't for us doing this podcast same with Idol hands was one that I missed It was fantastic yeah yeah But so this this is why we do it he this is this is this is why we're here this is this is the the beauty of this podcast is our movies like this where it's just bat shit nonsense but so much fun

i love it i love it well right on yeah i i recommend judgment night go out and watch it listeners yes it's i watched it on prime you said it was on pluto so multiple ways to get you're going to have to watch ads though unfortunately Yep. Unless you can find a DVD of it. Unless you're rich and you're paying for ad free.