The Cake Eaters - 138. Freejack
Episode Date: June 16, 2026Heath and Brandon travel into the future of 2009 with Emilio as they tackle Freejack. The boys discuss Mick Jagger, foot fetishes, dystopian futures, 1990s CGI, and Harlem Heat.Follow us on Instagram ...@thecakeeaterspodEmail us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com
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We are covering the wonderful
1992 masterpiece that is Free Jack.
I just had no idea this movie existed in the world.
This is this movie is a gem.
It's Emilio Estevez Mick Jagger, Anthony Hopkins, is it Michael Banks, right?
Or what's the, what's his name?
Jonathan Banks, I'm sorry, Jonathan Banks.
The dude from fucking the New York Dolls.
What's his name?
David, David Johansson.
Rename Russo.
Renee Russo.
She's in Steph.
she was in major she's the the love interest in major league um she's in avengers she played yeah she's
she's she's thore's mom and the avengers and all the thor movies love that yeah did you ever watch
uh uh ozark no the one of the big bad mean uh cartel guys he plays um mc jagger's
little right-hand man the guy with the scar on his face oh nice okay uh essay morales i don't know if i'm
Oh, yeah, he's he's in other stuff that I recognized him from.
Yeah, this movie, this movie is stacked.
This movie is stacked with really good actors, and you know who gives the best performance
of the movie is goddamn Mc Jagger.
Everybody else is mailing it in.
Oh, my God.
I was going to say the same thing.
I was like, I was prepared to say, I think we're going to have to talk about how
incredible Mick Jagger was in this movie.
Wow.
Incredibles have been.
For a musician actor, like my expectations for Mick Jagger's acting were probably zero.
Like it was, it was maybe negative.
I was like, I was getting ready for some real Mick Jagger.
You know, like the, like, you know what I mean?
Like the, when you see people impersonate Mick Jagger, that's the Mick Jagger that I was expecting, like the overacting.
Oh, Mick Jagger, I got big teeth.
You know, sorry, that's a terrible.
Mick Jagger, but who does
a good, it's like Andy Sandberg, I think.
Anyways,
he did so much better
than I thought, though. I was like, God, dang.
Like, Mick Jagger is a
convincing kind of Hunter
bad guy
guy. He was surprisingly
good. I wouldn't say
he was, his performance was good,
but it was, yeah,
it was surprisingly a lot better than
expected. I thought it was great.
We need to talk about
what a waste of Anthony Hopkins this is.
He might as well as just not even shown up.
The dude,
the dude gave zero ever.
He's just,
I mean,
if you read that part and you're an actor like,
like him,
like he's,
he's like,
dude,
fuck this.
I think he's,
like a hologram.
I think he's been on record how much he hated this movie.
Dude,
you know,
I knew it.
I knew it.
You know where I remember.
essay morale is from
in the army now
oh yeah okay the Polly Shore
classic he crushes it
yeah
best part of that movie for sure
yeah he's fantastic he's
Polly Shore's nemesis once they get sent
overseas but no
this this movie was awesome
I was like you text me and you're like
because I asked you I was like how's free jack
because I never heard of it I didn't even know
this existed in the world and
And so I was like how, how like wow is the movie?
And you were like, no, it's surprisingly good.
So I was like, oh, okay.
Like maybe, you know, I'll go into this with a very open mind then since I had no expectations considering make Jagger was like one of the main people in the movie, you know.
And then like 15, 20 minutes in.
I was like, son of a gun.
Brandon's right.
This is like actually, maybe it was five minutes in when the Indy car race to kick it on.
He's an indie car driver.
That was.
that was fantastic.
I loved everything about the first five minutes of the movie with him being
an IndyCar driver.
When he gets launched into like the bridge overpass thing and that's how they snatch his body.
That was fantastic.
The graphics of the computers.
Ooh, that was epic.
The 1992 CGI in this movie is rough.
You know how, you know what I knew when I was in for a treat of.
of a movie is when we're uh because it goes through it starts with like a really long um
like credit scene where it's just it's black screen and a couple credits are rolling and then it boom hard
cuts to amelio uh an ass shot of amelia in bed in tiny little you know 80s little uh gym shorts
and that hit and i was like oh okay we're in for a jam this movie knows what it's doing you know
We're starting with the Emilio, but you can't, you know, it's only up from there.
And, you know, now with AI taken over and all these NASA scientists going missing, Brandon, like freejacks, we could be, we could be staring down the barrel of free jacks right now.
Conspiracy theory.
How on.
Wait.
No one would steal us.
You know, like, we, we are not the target market for free jack, but, you know, like, like.
I don't you never know he's what if in you know because because so this it takes place it
it was released in 1992 um the beginning of the movie takes place in 1991 though and then he gets
time traveled forward to 2009 so that's what um 18 years so 18 years from now um you've been
dead for 18 years and Kelly uh you know befriends
a rich billionaire and he's like damn i really want to marry kelly but she keeps talking about this
fucking dead heath guy um that's how you get that's how you get freejacked yeah that's true i mean
that that makes sense they'd have to go god they'd have to go back in time a while
for a while they would go they would go back to right before you died so did you did you die a long
time ago i mean they'd have to change the course of my future
Because are you speaking to us from the grave heat?
The problem is that like they don't, they're not going to want a tired and haggard old body if they're, you know, trying to move forth in the future.
Unless someone young and spry and healthy.
Unless that's who Kelly loved, you know.
Kelly, Kelly loves the old and decrepit, you know.
That's a great point, Brandon.
That's a great point.
It's so much love for my old to grow up.
That's why Emilio gets picked.
It's not because he's, I mean, he is, obviously.
He's an F1 driver.
He, you know, he's young and spry, you know.
Yeah.
But the main reason he gets picked is because,
is your name, Julia?
What's her name?
Julie, Julie.
Is it because of René Russo's character, Julie,
was in love with him and couldn't stop talking about him to,
you know, old, old billionaire on a computer screen,
Anthony Hopkins.
that's sick son of a bitch dude i didn't realize that he got sent to 2009
that's november 2009 i believe is the exact time frame we're looking at here yeah
man when he's after he escapes uh uh they free jack him and then he escapes he's like
mobbing around new york and on the bill one of the billboards it says like you know
2009 him free jacked did you see uh twin towers are still there though
9-11 can't bring him down on our hearts this movie is just fucking wild though and he
the nun you like when he gets shipped over there I love the guns dude she does such a good
job of being kind but unhinged yeah well she's the she's the she's the she's our exposition
dump she's she's she's the lady who tells who tells us everything because you know
how the fuck would we know any of that information beforehand before she you know she gives them the
whole rundown she's one of the um oh did you see from the second from the second uh hunger games
movie right isn't she i have no idea she's yeah she's one of the little scientist guys
she's what uh virus oh that's who that is wow okay Amanda plumber why why iris imbeady yeah
yeah well she's she's she's
BD is
BD is the what's his name
the dude that's in
he's like real famous I forget his name though
but uh
two
good pop culture podcast doesn't know
names of anybody
I just remember that feedback we got
I was just teasing well that's the feedback
you got anyway
two things I want two weird
I'm so smart with names and
two two weird fucking things I want to point out before we move on
from the beginning of this movie.
He does like the little, he's an F1 driver.
He wakes, we wake up day of the race, the day of the race where he dies.
He does his qualifying lap.
And then he's getting ready to go for the race.
And him and Renee Russo are going back and forth.
He's like a little nervous.
He's like, I don't know how well I'm going to do.
She's like, you got this.
You're going to crush it.
And he says, nibble on my ear for luck.
Did you catch that?
Yeah, that's, I did.
That was, that's wild.
Obviously, you don't love anyone.
Hold on.
The very first review gave it a five out of ten stars on IMDB says,
nibble my ear.
See, that was, it's weird as fuck.
It's weird.
I know.
I knew you were going to bring it up.
So I literally was like, God, what did they do?
Why are they nibbling ears for luck?
Yeah.
Well, then she, yeah, she does it.
Although that looked like a little bit more than a nibble.
That might have constituted a bite.
Yeah.
Then the other, the other weird thing I wanted to point it out is when he is
mobbing through the, the bad part of town trying to find her and his, like, manager buddy,
the New York Dolls guy.
Yeah.
He's like mopping through the bad part of town and there's like a, uh, a club that he's,
he walks by and it's a strip club but it said it was advertised as 3d nudes and i was like wow that
i don't i don't know what that is i'm intrigued though i'm very intrigued it's probably what we're
headed to brandon a i porn nude i mean nude people are already 3d though so why would you need to
that's maybe it's sex at all brandon it's probably like holograms right
Right? That's got to be what they mean, right?
Like hologram.
Maybe.
Well, anyway, I'll wait.
Well, I guess we already passed it.
I'll say, I'll wait for them.
But 2009, we should have had it by now.
That hoverboards we should have had by now.
3D nudes, man.
It's bullshit.
Yeah.
Too busy focusing on AI and all that.
Give me the 3D news.
World domination.
Mike and the brain.
Give me the 3D nudes.
right yeah you've you've been to too many strip clubs and since we've last recorded a podcast episode
not a not enough though not enough you got to get some real thirst trap going on i just
thought i just i just thought 3d nudes was a weird uh descriptor
it so we're in so he travels forward to they they bring him to 2009 in order
to so did we explain the premise of the movie so what's happening is uh in 2009 rich people are trying to live
forever immortality so what they do is when they're about to die they transfer their mind into the
computers you know yeah and then they they don't travel back in time they have a machine that like
calibrates or whatever and brings people forward in time and what they do is they find people who are
literally uh like the second before they actually die they bring them forward and then they take that
body and then put the the billionaire brain in there and then the billionaire has a new body
you know does that make sense did i get that right yeah and free jacks are the the bodies
the bodies that's what they call the bodies yeah yeah it's free jacks
And so they bring Emilio into the future because he's he like they grab him the second before he hits the the bridge or the barricade or whatever that was.
Yep.
But he escapes because he's fucking Emilio, dude.
I love how he kept saying like, what kind of hospital is this?
Emilio crushes this movie too, by the way.
Like it's just crushes is a bit generous.
Oh, my God, Brandon.
This is, Emilio is in his bag, this whole movie, like 100%.
You know, this is, I have no idea how he didn't become a leading man after this movie.
Well, it's because he just, it's, yeah.
I mean, he is a leading, he is a leading man after this movie.
This is a year, this is a year before Mighty Ducks.
Oh, true.
I guess.
This is, this is what did it.
Yeah.
But this is probably what led to the Mighty Ducks.
his performance in this movie i did love i thought it was real refreshing though how uh he he's a good
four five inches shorter than rene rousseau and they they they make they make no attempt to hide it i
thought that was refreshing because nowadays nowadays they wouldn't they wouldn't have let that happen
they would have given him you know they would have propped him up or you know shot it in a weird
angle to where he was taller i thought that was refreshing you know yeah let the short kings live their
wives, am I right?
Yeah.
All bitches love the short kings, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Young, young, uh, young, uh, young Jonathan, um, Jonathan Banks, uh, Mike, Mike from
Breaking Bad.
Yeah, he plays, he, he does a fantastic job to Mr. Mr. Michelette, I think is this
the name, yeah, Michel, Michelette star.
Mark, Mark, Mark Michelette.
And so he, so Anthony Hopkins is the billion.
there who runs um was the company was just mccan macanless right was just his last name i think
yeah mccanless um so he runs the company uh mark michauntless is a mccandless mccandless
yeah there's a d mccandless yeah and then jonathan banks is like a
he wasn't was he second in line i guess he was like vice president maybe like third in line i don't
know he's he's high up though he's making decisions yeah bad bad decisions but decisions
nonetheless you don't know that brandon i do know none of his none of his plan worked
could have though i asked you if it wasn't for if it wasn't for that damn amelia
honestly if amelia wouldn't have scooby-dude him you know if it wasn't for those darned kids
would have pulled it off would have been you know one of the richest guys in in the future
brandon rule it with an iron fist you know who i loved was fucking boon boon was cool as shit
the Renee's like um bodyguard guy oh yeah uh who like sacrifice he went down i didn't like how
he went down that was such a bummer well yeah it was a bummer he did it like it was it was cool
it was cool a shit he fucking he took out he sacrificed himself took out like four guys well i mean
that was cool but how he got shot you didn't think that was a bummer it was just like a weird
cheap shot out of nowhere you know i was hoping he'd stick around um
Um, what I did love though is when,
I forget exactly the quote, but he says it's, it's when he's like getting ready,
when he's getting ready to sacrifice himself and he's telling Emilio to keep going like go on,
keep going. He says something along the lines of, you know, keep my grandma smiling or something like that.
He was like, because he was talking about I forget how his grandma came up,
but I thought that was that was that cracked me up when he was like,
Amelia, keep my grandma smiling.
How about you do that for me?
That's good stuff.
Who is his agent?
Hold on.
What was his agent's name again?
In the movie, I forget what his name is,
but it's David Johansson from,
he's the lead singer for the New York Dolls.
Or was, I think he passed away a couple years ago, RRP.
But he's in Scrooge.
You don't remember him from Scrooge?
That guy was a real
That guy was a real scumb bag, though
Oh my God, turned on poor Emilio in
Immediately, immediately.
Dude, but I remembered him instantly
from the Hulk Hogan classic Mr. Nanny.
He was the main bad guy and Mr. Nanny.
And he just, he crushed that.
Yeah, he turned on that, he turned on Emilio real quick.
That whole diner scene.
was cracking me up to you that was hilarious
anyways
it was
the agent
betraying him
what is the dude the the dude that amelio
picks a fight with at the diner he says
what does he say he says something like
uh
you keep staring at me all you're going to see
is me kill you
something like that
that's
I think that's almost exactly
what it was if you're gonna keep staring at me and be watching kill you yeah you know what else was
fucking weird was um so he he tracks down rene rousseau in the future she has to do a little
finagling to you know get her to believe that it's him and then they are like on the run he gets
drunk at a club and starts telling everybody
who he is
that was weird but so then after that
club they like roofy him right or is it just the future booze
it's the I think it was just the future booze and he just got
drunk he just got fucking blacked out dude because it's like
probably like rubbing alcohol yeah but so then after that club they go
because they go to that club to meet one of rené's friends
and then after the club they hide out at his place for a while
and his his apartment was crazy did you see his apartment he had like three like giant feet statues in
his apartment real weird yeah i don't trust feet people i don't trust people that like feet
big red flag brandon why is that a red flag explain because it's fucking weird that's why
why because feet are weird what what do you want with the what are you doing with those feet
Nothing good.
Quentin Tarantino would agree, would disagree with you.
Red flag Quentin Tarantino.
I have one foot that's almost like a whole shoe size smaller than the other, unfortunately.
Really?
Yeah.
That's not where I thought you were going with that book.
It's very noticeable too.
If you have to where how do you buy shoes?
Do you got to buy?
I just you just you just flip flop around in the in the second one.
Yep.
Figuring out.
You could probably get like, uh, you could probably get like a, um, get two pairs of the same shoes and just get a 12 and a 13.
You could do that that or you could just buy with the one bigger pair of shoes and then, you know, buy, uh, uh, like a cushion.
or a padded soul you know what I'm saying to like put in the whatever you're smaller for is it the left
or the right that's smaller right okay are you right handed to you yeah interesting yeah
was it always like that it was isn't did you have a freak accident I mean did you like one foot fall
and like hazard is waste no I don't that I did like break my big toe we thought on the trampoline
but you know doctors are expensive and x-rays are expensive away and so they they don't do anything
with toes i broke i broke all five toes on my right foot when i was 11 years old yes geez
getting shit together brand good god but went to the doctor and they were like well just you know
stay off of it yes don't do anything yeah it's not like we's not like we can put a cast on your
toe you know so all your hope you're happy with all your shit talking brandon i felt really targeted
I was talking about people who like feet, not people who have weird feet.
I don't care about that.
I just, the people that are like just, yeah, you know what I mean.
Don't twist this around.
Oh, I thought you were just talking shit about people weird feet, Brandon.
No, I was talking like, damn, well, does my mismatched feet, does that fall under weird?
Do you hate me?
No.
Do you discriminatory against my feet, Brandon?
I was talking about people who, who like feet, feet fetish people.
you know no well i mean that's a given like it's yeah that's what i thought is always a red flag
yeah exactly so you agree with me yeah okay you're just always so confrontational i don't know
when you're agreeing with me i just disagree with your assertion that people with weird feet are
the worst that wasn't my assertion my assertion was people who like feet are the worst
we're having two different conversations Brandon
You just weren't listening
If you roll back to tape
I imagine I was very clear with my stance
Anyways
So yeah
The technology
In this movie was amazing
And hilarious
At all at the same time
Like the cars
Like the way they
had the cars like the lasers the um what was the laser they had laser guns laser guns like the
highlander electricity that went through the guy's body that was oh my god the the technology was a real
highlight as well just what they thought technology was going to be like in 2009 not even close
No. And then when at the end, when they like go into the computer to talk to Anthony Hopkins, that was wild.
That was amazing.
Think about, think about where AI and that stuff is today and video games and what they thought it was going to look like.
And that was in 1992.
It's not like it was in the 70s or something.
That's 1992.
Yeah.
So, though, that's a long time ago.
That's like that's pre-Jurassic Park.
that's a great way to like measure time yeah yeah especially
it was different that was pre-jurassic park i think this especially movie-wise i think that's a good
deliminator deliminator is that right i don't know if that's delineator deline line of delineation
there you go deline okay thank you thank you uh yeah i think i think i think Jurassic parks are good
you know a good line in the sand yeah i'm having that
wouldn't disagree with that.
Yeah.
But yeah, the graphics are
insane.
Let's see,
they were,
they might have been worse than like,
you know,
like when the Star Wars,
when they're locking in on the Death Star,
and like,
they're worse than all that stuff.
Yeah.
It's,
it's so much worse.
It's about 20 years later,
it was worse.
Yeah.
Wild.
Yeah.
But so don't come from to this movie
for the graphics.
come to it for the absurd plot and Mick Jagger surprising you with his role as bounty hunter guy for free jack
this is we we talk about it a lot but this is a perfect daytime T&T movie like to a T.
this is AMC yeah this is an AMC movie to the T.
for USA Network.
Yeah.
Yeah.
U.S.
Saturday morning USA Network.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is 3 a.m.
It's, it's, it's an absurd.
It's an absurd story with absurd graphics and wild actors who are all giving a different amount of effort.
And so like a lot of like it just,
even in the same scene where they're acting with each other a lot of it seems like the the two people that are acting together are not in the same movie because they're they're they're giving it wildly different effort and like commitment and so like you get you get mc jagger who's like trying his best to be like a bounty hunter and then i don't know what amelio's doing because amelio is all over the place uh it's it's it's an
insane movie. It's wild. And yeah, it's it's a testament to how ridiculous your movie is when
Mick Jagger gives the best performance. That's that is actually probably the, the best way
to describe this movie to someone if they're like, hey, Brandon, you know, like what, how would you
kind of like quickly tell me about this movie and you'd be like, well, look at the cast and
the best performance out of this cast is mc jagger and that that tells you all you need to know
about the movie and all honesty like that's you need to put that review on i mdb brandon that would get a
a lot of thumbs up i feel like yeah maybe i will throw it up there that's a good one that's a
that's a seven out of ten star review but uh so to talk a little bit more about that so the end of the
movie when they're um they're able to so they they figured out it's anthony hopkins who has passed
or is about to no he did pass away because his brain is currently in the computer they mentioned
that we his brain knew that the whole time though right like that was like the the bad thing
about this plot is like as soon as they got over there it's like oh it's her boss yeah yeah as
As soon as, like as soon as,
well, because they, they have that weird, they have the weird cryptic scene after Emilio escapes.
And it's, is it Mick Jagger and.
I got the, thank you.
I think it's Mick Jagger and the Breaking Bad guy are talking to like a, like a hood, a hooded figure.
He looks like a, uh, Emperor Palpatine.
Exactly.
He looked like Emperor Palpatine in the, in the hood.
And then it does that weird like computer.
Emperor Palpatine in the hood.
hood that would actually be a really funny like spoof movie
don't don't these aren't the rims you're looking for
did you ever watch a lepricon on the hood that was a great one oh my god yes that was
a lepricon back to the hood that was a good one too that dude those were Halloween staples
that we get from the video store we got on a my like friend group uh when i was in like junior year
high school, I think.
We got on a backward blockbusters.
We're still kicking around.
We got,
Captain Video.
We got on a big lepracon kick.
We were ripping through those.
How could you know?
The first one's Jennifer Aniston.
Young Jennifer Aniston.
Before she was a friend,
before she was Monica.
Yeah, leprechaon in space.
Leprocon in the hood.
Leprocon back to the hood.
I'm trying to remember the other ones.
There was, I think there was lepercon one, two, three.
and four and then that's when they started going to space and to the hood and all that stuff
can't blame on great franchise great franchise um what was uh where was i at oh so yeah so it so it's
so it's very it was very obvious that it was anthony hopkins who who was trying to get his body
but they don't figure that out in the movie until later on no it was but it was a very very
anti-climactic
like
oh what a reveal
no one saw this coming
you know like it was
you you would have to be
freaking Stevie Ray
if you couldn't see that shit coming
or not Stevie Ray
I'll say it's from Harlem Heat
oh shit
yeah there's gonna
there's gonna be like
two two people
two wrestling fans that get that
that mess up, but that was great.
That was great.
Yikes.
Ray Charles.
I thought you were going to Stevie Wonder, right?
Oh, my God.
Is it Stevie Wonder?
Stevie Wonder, too.
I got, I was thinking Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder at the same time.
Yeah, Steve.
Right.
Yes, yes.
If you were wondering what my thought process was there.
that's rough boy the four listeners are going to just be so disgusted with me after this episode
no they're gonna they're gonna love the stevie ray shout out this is harlem heat dude uh when they got
sensational sherry in wcw that was that was prime they wasted it with the weird storyline with her and um
what's his face the colonel oh yeah yeah colonel rob park or whatever so yeah that was a waste of
harlem heat but dude those those those rival the rival harlem heat and the nasty boys you know oh my god
that was so good i had the uh harlem heat like the big um like wrestlers like that era of wcw it was
like the whole cogoo the pillow ones that we're talking about not the pillow one it's like they're
they were bigger than like the hasbro but they didn't move i forget what flavor they were but
they were awesome what flavor like what flavor of wrestling toy it was we would not what
what flavor yeah has bro is my favorite flavor okay back back to the back to free jack so
they find out that it's anthony hopkins uh and anthony hopkins has been dead they mentioned
So his mind is in the computer.
They mentioned something like,
they mentioned they're trying to like rush to like get the switch going because his,
the brain can only last four days, I think is what they say in the computer.
And we're, guess what he did it's day four.
Yeah.
Really running out of time.
And Anthony Hopkins.
Anthony Hopkins character tries to pull off the brilliant switcher.
Right.
Because they figure out it's him.
and he does he goes oh my bad guys i just wanted to like i i i didn't you know i was just trying
to be you because she loves you and i want her to love me and you know what you guys caught me
i'm so sorry you know what's a daisy didn't mean to steal your body how about i how about i just
die and you emilia you just you can live as me with all of my money and my riches and everything
it's no worries you got this well it's fine sweat bret
And he almost he almost got Emilio he almost tricked him.
Almost got him.
But not quite.
Because what is how does she how does she get it?
That's how she gets him at the end, right?
He's the, the weird quote.
What was the quote?
Why am I blanking on the quote?
What do you, what part are you talking about?
At the very end when like he's pretending that he's Anthony Hopkins in his body and then he
like looks over at her.
Oh, I forget what I forget what they say yeah, I'm sorry.
But he says something that like she it triggers her to be like, oh shit, that's not Anthony Hopkins.
It's Emilio.
Oh, it's good.
It's for long.
It's not something he says.
It's because he or no, that's how McJagger finds out.
I'm sorry.
I was to say it's because he's driving.
But that's how McJagger knows.
I forget how I forget what how she like clocks it.
But so.
They try to do the switch with Hopkins going into Emilio, but then, you know, the, they stop it.
The machine stops like halfway through.
And they're all like, oh, did it go through?
We've, I think they say we've had ones that took longer and we've had ones that have taken less time.
So it could be anything.
So yeah, so nobody knows if they actually got switched.
So, yeah, he's, Emilio's doing his best Anthony Hopkins in person.
because killing it they're trying to figure out because if Anthony Hopkins dies uh the
breaking bad guy Jonathan Banks gets the company but if but if the if the transfer is successful
then Anthony Hopkins in Emilio's body gets to continue to run the company yeah and so the
transfer gets broken halfway through so then Emilio pretends to be Anthony Hopkins so he can actually
take all of his riches yeah and what's
the they ask him to like verify his like ID number yeah and it was like six one two four
nine or five and it was completely wrong not completely wrong so he gets somewhat wrong
because it's it's the so if you remember it's like five minutes before that when anthony
hopkins is doing the whole trick thing where he's like oh oh oh this year he he tells amelio his
an ID number because he has to push it into the machine they're trying to do.
Yeah.
So he tells Emilio the ID number.
That's right.
And I think Emilio gets like the first four numbers, right?
And then the rest were wrong.
Made up.
But.
Yeah.
And then.
And then.
Well, yeah.
So then Mick Jagger.
You got the moves like Jagger.
Mick Jagger figures it out because, well,
McGregor knew because he, well, he says later on once he, once he confronts him,
he's like, oh, I knew you were lying because the number was wrong.
I just said it wasn't because I don't know I don't know what Mick Jagger like grew to
love Emilio towards the end and I'm not sure why it didn't really make any sense but how
can you not love Emilio in the end I mean it is Emilio he's a he's a he's a he's a
lovable son of a bitch dude I've I've been loving this Emilio stretch we're on
with these fucking ridiculous movies that he did.
That he's done.
Young Guns was wild.
Judgment Night was a was a fucking riot.
Dude,
these Emilio movies have been legendary.
And Free Jack just added to the lore, too,
honestly.
It was like,
my God,
can this guy not,
can he do anything bad?
Like,
Free Jack was a masterpiece.
from Emilio he does have like that he is very lovable he has that little bit of charm to
where like even even in this dog shit movie it's still like fun to watch you know just watching
him do his thing yeah dude he's just he's operating in 2009 as a body who's not supposed to be
there everyone is yelling about him being a free jack ready to turn him in like he's you know he's
on the run Brandon that was everybody was a was terrified that he was a free jack I'm
assuming because if you're I would assume if you're caught harboring a free jack you
get fucking nixed you know yeah yeah this is a very dystopian future I
do love I love how it's one of those tropes whenever they do like
dystopian futures and stuff like this where they're like oh they're in you
know quadrant four you you probably know it as city
park you know they rename everything where it's like i don't know if i don't know if we're
necessarily renaming everything when it becomes dystopian i think you'll probably still call
stuff the name that it was called no i am i am absolutely changing the name of everything
and then they love doing like they did they do with hunger games you're we're talking about hunger
games we're real callus well i said they everything's a district or a quadrant or you know
know just like no it's just numbers they don't they don't give you know it's it's a weird
dystopian future trope but I love that which she was like he was asked he was
asking her to find you know Renee Russo and then his buddy and she's all oh quadrant
seven quadrant four you probably know that is city park then how else are you
supposed to know where you're at if you're not when the world ends it's just
quadrants and old territories versus new territories and you know that's just how it is tale's
oldest time yeah i did love i did love you obviously don't know shit about surviving post
apocalyptic worlds like oh no i plan i plan never to i watched red don again with that when that
when that uh nuclear bomb goes off heath i'm walking
towards the blast you would never be a wolverine brandon no it's so disappointing no wolverings
dude that movie's so good the old one and the new one both of them yeah you wouldn't be a war
you wouldn't make it either man i i would want to be a wolverine but i would get shot real quick
there's just a zero percent chance that i wouldn't be the you'd be the teacher that gets popped right away
You said that when we did the movie.
It's not true.
It's more true now than it's ever been.
I would be like the girl's bodyguard where it would just be some rando laying on the ground just,
dead.
You're out within 30 seconds.
The plane crashes into my house.
Yeah.
They drop the bomb directly on your house.
Targeted.
Yeah.
I don't know,
I don't know how they picked that,
that those coordinates,
but they did.
This Lakeview neighborhood looks dicey at best.
This is,
that's,
well,
they'd have to because they know I would lead a group of
Wolverines against them,
right?
Yeah,
you're going to take,
take out our biggest threat.
Dude,
that's why I would never be able to be a free jack.
I'm their worst nightmare.
I would amelio them,
but I then I would over.
overthrow the government.
Well, so that was, that was one of my questions at the end of this movie is, is Amelia?
What happens now?
Is Amelia going to do anything to, to try to better this scenario?
Or is he just going to, he's just going to take over Anthony Hopkins millions of billions and dollars and, you know, just keep the, the terrible status quo we got going?
I think he was just going to kind of retire with his lady in this new company.
just let everyone else figure out the world yeah that's what that's what that's what it felt like
he's like he's just someone else's problem he gets in the the the fancy car and just drives
away yeah yeah like well i'm rich now so this is this is your guys problem can keep fighting over
that that fucking peanuts and and circus tents yeah i i did i had that exact thought though
when they when at the end when he's driving away i was like i don't think he's going to do anything
after this.
He's just like, all right, well, cool.
Got my lady.
Yeah.
And Mick Jagger just lets him go.
Yep.
Mick Jagger's like, well, as long as he doesn't mess with me and I can keep hunting people for people.
No big deal.
This movie's so fucking stupid.
Dude, to be, I mean, I'm sure, like, that script had to be so appealing.
If you just look at it surface level.
to be a bounty hunter from the future
is an incredible description
of a character. I was reading something about
Mick Jagger about
Boba Fett. About him taking this role
and the
let me see if I can pull it up here.
I had it earlier.
Then the fun facts and
Oh yeah here we go. So Mick Jagger was offered
this movie one week before shooting
was scheduled to start and decided to do it
on the spot based on a short description of the movie he later said if he had been given a few
months to read the script and think about it he wouldn't have done it that's incredible
that's amazing i thought it was great it was it was one of those movies where it's only in
1990 in the early 90s oh no they they don't they don't make movies like that they don't make movies like
this anymore
because there's no there you know there's no money to be made on throwing it on t-and-t
anymore you know there's no DVD sales yeah and I mean there's no way the DVD sales of
this were good anyways let's see let's go let's here let me pull up the budget info here
let's do what we got okay 30 million dollar budget estimated 6.7 mill on opening weekend
nice worldwide gross uh 17
million.
So they definitely didn't make their money back.
It's too bad.
Sorry,
we never got a free jack to
back to jacking.
I mean,
it's a fantastic concept
with terrible
execution overall.
It's an interesting idea
for sure.
Like this is the plot,
standalone,
just the plot on its own is a really good
like plot line.
You know, it's just really 1992 over the top execution.
Yeah.
The full plot of the movie is not good.
The general idea is intriguing.
Yeah.
Like having prejacks and like grabbing bodies from the past to use for brains of rich people in the future.
Like that's a great plot line.
Yeah.
You know, you wouldn't get it.
Yeah.
Do you think you would, if you were a millionaire, would you freejack somebody?
Somebody got it?
It's hard to tell, you know, because like I'd like to say no, but Kelly loves reminding me that deep down I'm probably like any like large power like that.
I'm probably going to accidentally become a villain.
So I'd like to say no.
But, you know, that amount of wealth and power.
I don't know.
Maybe I definitely would.
I would do it before I was even about dying.
I would just do it to get a better body.
I'd be, you know.
Who would you want to freejack?
Like you can't do anyone famous, I guess, right?
Like, yeah, you could because you're pulling into the future.
And it's, it's a known, you know, except, I just not accepted thing.
They don't take, I guess it's not accepted.
I don't know if anybody.
Like free Jack Paul Walker?
That's pretty solid.
That'd be sick.
yeah yeah that's it also incredibly niche pole right there i'm trying to think of four people i'm trying to
think of people you know as terrible as it sounds trying to think of people who died early
you know paul walker would be one dude and the way he went would be similar to amelio like you'd be
able to free jack paul walker pretty pretty nice yeah not that his death is nice that's tragic in the
dude when they drive off
in the you know you actually you know what I might what I probably would do if I was that rich
and had that kind of power I would probably I would just to cause some chaos I would start
free I would start freejacking people to the future and then let them loose like amelio you know
like I like free jack Paul Walker uh and then let him lose now we got you know now we have real
paul walker in the future that'd be that'd be that'd be tiny to say do it with like oh you know you
know it would be amazing.
Free Jack Dale Earnhardt and let them loose.
I mean, so that that actually be like a crazy plotline.
It's like you're working against the God of Death, the Grim Reaper,
to free Jack your favorite celebrities back into the future where they can go back to
living again, you know?
It's me.
Jack Tupac.
It's me versus God, dude.
Let's do this.
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that would be a wild use of the free jack experience.
But so much fun.
To save your favorite celebrities, dude.
Who's the guy that plays Ernest?
Oh, what is his name?
Something for Varnie.
Varney.
Jack Varnie?
Sam Varnie.
Jake Varnie.
What the hell is his name?
Jim Varnie.
Yeah, bring Jim back, you know.
Yeah, you can get, you can have some real fun with that.
And I was trying to type, uh, who plays, um, earnest.
And the first thing that pops up is who is the guy that plays Hector in every movie.
And so I clicked on it.
Oh, yeah. That guy's the best.
Yeah.
That guy plays freaking Hector in every movie.
No.
Uh, his name is Hector, right?
His real name.
Oh, I thought his real name was Hector too.
yeah that guy's awesome yeah uh anyways
it's a wild google search to auto pop that that many people have searched it
but yeah but so that's that's free jack i'll work on uh getting that because that that i think
that's a solid sequel idea too is just to start bringing people to the future and letting them
loose, you know?
That's it.
That's a fantastic sequel.
I'll start working on
Free Jack 2 back to
jacking is what I'm going to call it.
That's an incredible title.
I mean, I will be
honest with you bringing it. I don't know how
Hollywood doesn't sign off on that
movie.
Hey, I don't know how we haven't gotten
writer or producer jobs
offered to us yet. It's insane.
The amount of good ideas
is we throw out on this podcast that just get lost to time you know that's that's incredible anyways
all right let's let's do cakeies we're just talking about nonsense at this point we're freaking back to jack
we did have we also had a a good uh like five to 10 minute uh tangent about feet earlier I remember
that now it's been a wild episode yeah I'm tired I'm tired all the time now Brandon it's it's
you know it's part of what's uh what's your cakey what do you got here
I don't know.
I don't have any concept of my kikis anymore.
I feel like I've lost the thread on those.
But let's give it a 2.97.
2.97?
Yeah.
I liked it.
It's good.
Good, not great.
Right down the middle.
Yeah.
It's a good, it's good to,
it's a good watch just because of how absurd it is.
But it's definitely not a good movie.
I'm going to give it a 27.
because it's it's it's ridiculous but it's it's enjoyable it's fun it's fun to just
it's throw it's a fun yeah yeah
terror it's it's it's fun it's a terrible fun movie it's it's like one that you're not
going to watch and be like my god what a great movie you're going to watch and be like
oh my god this is great it's so bad it's it's great exactly and that's a and that's a special
kind of movie in my opinion yes yeah like you said it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a
that's the vibe you're going for with like the you know the t-and-t daytime movies that they
yeah they just don't make them they don't make them anymore four a m on t-n-t exactly yeah
it is for for anybody who's i don't know why you would listen to this if you didn't watch the
movie well i guess i shouldn't say that be i don't know but if if you haven't watched the movie
uh and you want to it is for free with ads on tubi to ubi to ubi did two
We've talked about it before, but Tooby is the shit.
There's so many ridiculous movies on Tooby.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
And especially there's there's a vast, a vast collection of Amelio movies on Tooby as well.
So if you're in, if you're like us and you're in an Emilio kick right now,
Toobie is your bet, dude.
Dude, it has all the wild old stuff that's like, oh, my God, I forgot this movie even existed.
Yeah.
They've got all those movies.
And like the, the, the weirder and more like obscure, the easier it is to find on 2B.
Like I just pulled up to be the first thing that popped up is spies like us.
I haven't seen that movie in years.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
And then the other examples, I can't even like Arnold Schwarzenegger starring in the sixth day.
What?
Oh, see, I pulled it up.
Oh, dude.
I pulled it up right now.
Biodome?
We got Boys in the Hood.
Toy Soldiers.
Face off.
Dude.
Creed 3.
A team.
Looks like it's got all the, or a good chunk of the planet of the apes.
Then some, some predator movies here.
Rumble in the Bronx.
Jury duty.
Ooh.
Watching that next, Brandon.
Freaking jury duty.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Legally blonde.
Whoops, accidentally started it.
Dude, we're absolutely.
Oh, training day, dude.
No, I mean, listen, no one loves Polly Shore.
more than me.
Dennis the men's?
They've got obscure
Polyshore movies.
I love to be even more.
All right.
Let's wrap this up.
Space Truckers is also on my list.
Obviously.
All right.
