The Cake Eaters - 16. D1: The Mighty Ducks - Part 4
Episode Date: October 12, 2021Heath & Brandon dive into the original Mighty Ducks movie! Today’s episode goes over minutes 60-81. They discuss Wingman Charlie, the rampant corruption within Minnesota youth hockey, school lif...e in the 90s, Banks' introduction to the Ducks, the very underrated Basil McRae, and ghost tours. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com
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It's not worth winning if you can't win!
Welcome back everybody to the Cake Eaters Podcast, your definitive Mighty Ducks podcast.
My name is Brandon. I've got my co-host Heath with me. Heath, how you doing?
I'm doing great. I'm getting quackalicious, you know, me and my girl Fergie.
You know what I'm talking about.
Quackalicious?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Fergalicious, Quackalicious in your brishes is what we're saying over here.
I don't know. It's don't know it's getting wild it's getting out
okay i respect it i respect it uh understandable because because today we have uh we're doing part
four of our our dive into d1 the original mighty ducks movie so we got minutes 60 through 81
jam-packed a jam-packed 21 minutes a lot to get through here uh a good chunk of the movie
and then uh we we end off kind of right before the climax here so so a good a good setup for
part five here a lot a lot to get through a lot to talk about for minute 60 though we we start off
we cut in right we cut in right to Mickey's Diner, which is the
restaurant that Charlie's
mom works at, Casey Conway,
the greatest waitress
in Mickey Diner's history, I'm
pretty sure.
Do we know that? Did we see any kind of
employee of the month verification
in the backdrop to
be able to speak to that Brandon we we did not
but just going on not to fact check you here going on on gut instinct I gotta believe she's she's the
best she's the I'll refer to that maybe not the best waitress in Mickey 90s history the most
recognized you're going off of your natural feel for talent? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Okay, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
Okay, okay.
I can get on board.
If there's one thing that people know about me,
Heath, it's that I can recognize talent when I see it.
Especially when it comes to waitressing?
Exactly, yeah.
My years and years of service industry experience,
which I actually do have quite a lot of,
but I definitely did not
win a single employee of the month award while i was in the service industry i it was it was not
my forte not my strong suit i uh i i specifically remember so i worked at a movie theater restaurant
deal for a little while and uh that that, that shit was rough because it was,
it was all time based.
You know,
you had to,
because they're in the movie,
you had to drop food at a specific time.
You had to drop checks at a specific time.
You had to wrap everything up at a specific time.
It was exhausting.
A lot of pressure.
I,
and I specifically remember,
it's a vivid memory.
I remember,
I remember walking into the it it was i forget
what year it was but it was it was the the the teenage mutant ninja turtles movie with
it was like the the first because i know they made like two or three the three the not not
not the original like the the mid to like the 2010 ish ones right they made two two okay so it was the first one yes the first
one with megan fox it was that one i remember walking into that movie theater and then turning
around to see all of the people that i had to take orders from and i remember like as soon as i
walked in and turned around i remember having an instant panic attack like the the thought the the
irrational panic attack thought that entered my mind was like brandon you're gonna die in this movie theater someone is gonna murder you for their food
oh yeah or i was just gonna die of panic just like a hard a hard attack of panic and so i remember
walking i i like walked in turned around saw everybody and immediately walked out when i
had that thought and i went to the the manager on duty during that time. And I was like, I don't care.
I'll finish out tonight.
No problem.
But starting tomorrow, you either need to move me to the bar or I quit.
Your choice.
Wow.
The ultimatum.
Yeah.
And they moved me to the bar.
And it was so much better.
Bartending is so much better than serving.
It's it was the,
it was the,
one of the greatest decisions I think I ever made in my life was being
like,
I can't do this anymore.
Can I get into you?
I would have,
I would have,
I would have had a crazy manic depressive episode sooner or later
serving,
serving.
It's just people are the fucking worst.
People are the fucking worst.
Yep. Only a matter fucking worst. Yep.
Only a matter of time.
Let's get
to get back to
the diner experience
of Bombay
walking in and
greeting Charlie.
Yeah, so Bombay walks,
bold move, walking into
you know,
one of your players' mom's avenues of work. Their employer walking in there, and Charlie's just sitting there doing homework.
I assume that's a normal thing for Charlie to do is just sit there and do homework.
I think so.
Single mom.
You got to bring him with you. know yeah but it feels like good good on mickey's dyno for you
know being chill with that you know not not causing a stink with because i mean he was in the middle
of the bar like right at the door he's taking a prime seating real estate charlie you know you
would figure like charlie go sit in the fucking corner, dude. But prime real estate.
But Charlie did say that the team thought he was a traitor for showing up.
So maybe Bombay was trying to get the rest of the team there during that time as well.
Well, he says he's a traitor for showing up to the game.
Oh, the game.
The game that they forfe the game yeah yeah that's right
yeah he talks about how peter and the rest of the kids and again fuck peter peter's the fucking
worst is it true you were a hawk peter said you blew a big one yeah peter told me about the worst
day in your life you know so there's that for you i put a i put a note lol peter is a dick peter's the fucking
worst dude he's fucking sucks it's like just like yeah charlie well guess what bob bain really
fucking sucked it up when uh he he lost this game for the hawks completely which like 20 years ago
played overtime they still like they still played overtime and they lost in overtime.
I don't understand why he has to hold the bag on this entire loss.
It doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense that Coach Riley would pin the whole thing on him.
And it doubly doesn't make any sense that the newspaper that wrote the fucking headline would pin it all on him too.
Yeah.
Like, what about Riley winning a coach well enough that your
team wins in overtime yeah you had a whole a whole other fucking period here coach riley like
what what in the world was that because then he he says it because uh bombay does like a breakdown
for yeah yeah so he so he talks about it. He talks about how he missed.
So he brings up that the penalty shot was in the third period,
which is a good call.
I,
from the original,
like three minutes that the title breakdown,
when they show this,
I assumed it was,
it was also in overtime,
you know,
but he's,
he mentions that the penalty shot was in the third period.
So then a,
a, you have all of the rest of that third period
and then the overtime period coach
Riley this is your fault this is not
not Bombay's agree
yep but yeah he mentions they
missed the penalty missed the penalty shot
in the third period and then they went to overtime
and they lost and
and then he talks about I love
I love this scene because he's talking to Charlie and they lost and and then he talks about i love i love this scene because he's
talking to charlie and he's like a quarter of an inch the other way and it goes in and then charlie
being the fucking badass that he is goes yeah but a quarter of the inch the other way and you would
have missed it completely and looked like a fucking idiot dude yeah yeah i i also commented on that because like that is like
the innocence of youth right like the like the innocence of youth for him to just completely like
and also not being being spaz way right so maybe not being the best player out there he's like
yeah well if you go the other way you look like a clown you were just you were you were that close
to just looking like a joke instead of almost uh missing it and bombay is like oh yeah that
i never thought of it that way that kind of makes sense and then and then trance like yeah and at
least you got to play in the championship i bet that was cool and like yeah just shedding some perspective to our boy bombay the ultimate kid
perspective where where he's like at least at least you were there you know that sounds
fucking cool just to be there just to be there you know yeah and then it kind of gets a little
weird after then we get wingman Charlie. Wingman Charlie.
Charlie goes full wingman for his mom.
And he says, you know, she has many fine qualities that men find attractive.
That's what Charlie says to Bombay.
So that's right.
So after that conversation, Casey Conway, Charlie's mom, comes out from the back or whatever.
And she comes out and she sees Bombayay's there and they have this weird they make eye contact they have like a sweet little smile they exchange like oh hello very very flirty very you
know whatever and then that's when charlie recognizing that he goes you know she has uh
she has a lot of qualities that that men find desirable is that what he says yeah attractive
attractive yeah yeah yeah basically being like my mom my mom's hot as get on this dude
yeah bombay says uh i know charlie that fact hasn't escaped me
like what uh what an awkward and then and then bombaines is like, well, fuck it. He brought it up. He's like, so what kind of guys does your mom date?
Yeah, goes right back into it.
Just really takes it.
Doesn't he?
So he goes.
So he brings that up.
He says, so what kind of guys does your mom date?
But then he backs off, right?
Then he's like, wait, no, that's a bad idea.
We shouldn't do this.
Yeah, well, because then Charlie is like, well well they're jerks because they they like my mom but as soon as they see me
they're they're out of there they want nothing to do yeah yeah you know yeah um and so and so
charlie even says he's like i mean i don't really care but i just feel bad for my mom i i don't i
want her to have a a nice guy you know like uh which we need nice guy bombay
which i don't know what he is nice guy bombay doesn't exist charlie why if you're looking for
a nice guy for your mom bombay is not that guy bombay is the fucking worst person to set your
mom up with yeah he's uh currently having a little bit of a hard
time with the dui he doesn't have a license he's an alcoholic he's got a recent dui and he doesn't
he doesn't have a job well i think that comes later on but he uh yeah no spoilers but yeah
no spoilers about to get that unemployment line now he's unemployed yeah
there are better there are better options out there for you charlie there are better options
yeah and then charlie just you know once again being the kid he jumps right in he's like
he's like hey so are you gonna come over for dinner again or what because bombay has just
ghosted them a little bit you know yeah well maybe i'll figure that out and then it's he's he's saying
like hey this is where bombay kind of drops some bad news brandon he's he's saying hey i talked to
terry and jesse's dad uh they're gonna take over for for coaching the rest of the season because
which the team doesn't trust me and that kind of makes sense right it makes sense and again i think
we're pointing this out a couple episodes ago but terry and jesse's dad early favorite for best parent because he's like 100 because a a he
mentions he's already working overtime to pay for the hockey stuff yeah and then now even though
he's still working overtime he's willing when bombay is thinking about backing out he's like
okay i'll take over that way we don't have to close the team down.
Stepping aside to keep the team together.
That's what he said to Charlie.
Very diplomatic.
Very diplomatic.
Yes.
But Mr. Hall, killing it.
Yeah.
Early favorite for Best Parent Award.
Yeah.
But that just absolutely tears up Charlie.
He doesn't know what to think.
He's not a fan.
He's getting tears.
And what a great acting job by the young Joshua Jackson.
He tears up.
It was moving.
It was legitimately moving.
He gets those tears in his eyes.
And he's like, we're your team.
We weren't even ducks until you came along.
You made us. and now you're
stuck with us and then he storms out but man he hit the the tears in his eyes the storm out like
just some some you knew some big things were ahead after that scene for you joshua jackson
what one thing i want to point out before we we we move to move past mickey's dinos here
is there's multiple times during
charlie and bombay's conversation where they clap right where i i forget oh charlie's talking about
um the other kids or not the other kids the other people that dated his mom and he's like as soon as
they see me they're gone right and so he claps and then the shot they show has like a background of a couple
people and one of the people is like the super old man who's like right behind charlie and when
he claps the old man turns around and it's like what like looking all crazy at him and then it
happens again i think it happens previously when bombay's talking about his goal posts
oh yeah because he's like boom right up there off the... He claps in that too, and the
old man turns around during that too. There's like
two or three scenes during this
Mickey Diner things where they clap and the old
man turns around all scared.
I love that. I thought it was fantastic.
Great
extra acting.
Dude nailed it.
If you want to look at
a how-to to be an extra he's he's it
exactly dude fucking crushed it
we cut away from mickey's diner this this goes to uh the school science class yeah we're in
science class uh we've got this is a very subtle joke that I just are you talking about blue balls
yeah
the red balls are oxygen
now what are the blue balls
and then the kids all start laughing
Tommy
hydrogen
yeah 96%
of your body what is it
pizza
that's it he's like now if you put them together
what what what molecule makes up 96 percent of your body um and peter answers pizza and the kids
also get a nice kick out of that because you can't you mean back back in in those days especially
like in the early 90s like that pizza hut experience was second to none. And so, you know,
they probably were full of pizza. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
It makes sense. Especially,
especially cause you're going there after each game, you know? Yeah.
Yeah. Absolutely. Questions of breadsticks.
I love it. And then, and then halfway then halfway and then so the class gets interrupted principal
knocks on the door um and the teacher says all right team all right gang you know let's work on
h2 co3 because it's a goodie but instead of working on this molecule and putting it together
what do we do we have carp whipping around and saying how was the forfeit spaz way yep yep
and then we get some classic you know douchebag peter yeah yeah did you score
and and charlie's trying to be the nice guy right like hey i don't want to talk about i do i do i do
want to point out what what the fuck is up with Charlie's hat
in this scene?
I'm surprised they let him wear it
at school. They usually don't
let you wear hats at school, even
in the 90s.
I mean, this was like 92.
Yeah, even then.
I mean, my
experience, so I didn't hit kindergarten
until 90, or that would have been
like 94 so i'm like two three maybe 95 two or three years behind this um
but yeah and i was in like a high i grew up in the suburbs so it was it was a you know it was a
well-to-do school district um when you're in the the inner cities of minneapolis though i don't know maybe they're
they're a little more lenient on the dress code especially in 91 92 whenever this was um
not only not only is he wearing a hat gheese got his little i don't even what kind of hat is his
gheese fashion in this in this movie like I feel like he was trying to –
the stuff they put him in, he was trying to go for a Rastafarian look.
You think so? I don't know.
I love 90s.
Which doesn't make any sense for somebody named Guy Germain,
who's fucking Scandinavian blonde hair.
It doesn't make any sense.
I don't know.
I mean, I love some good 90s fashion and they just
they pull out all the stops for this movie so i can get on board well charlie's hat was it was
like a it was kind of like a baseball cap but not really and it was all plaid yeah i don't know what
that was about i love it it was threw me for a loop. Yeah. The fashion in this, this episode or this movie,
just,
it was like,
I love nineties fashion as much as the next person,
but this was,
this was a lot.
I love it.
But my favorite line comes up here shortly.
Cause,
cause Peter calls out Charlie.
He's like,
yeah,
you're the,
you're the coach's pet.
Everyone knows Bombay likes you best.
And then carp is like, likes his mom're the coach's pet. Everyone knows Bombay likes you best. And then Carp is like, likes his mom, you mean?
Yeah.
But then Charlie jumps up to defend his mom's honor.
And then Connie also jumps right up.
Connie is the first one to defend Charlie.
She jumps up and is like, fuck you guys.
And I love Peter.
He jumps up and says, you have no right shoving Carp peter is like he jumps up and says you have no
right shoving carp that's what he says to khan that's right you have no right shoving carp
and then as and then pushes connie and then of course yeah he's not gonna let that fly
you know he's like you don't don't push her she's a girl which I mean, girl or not, you shouldn't be pushing people in class.
It's not where it's at.
So everyone's pushing back and forth.
I love that it doesn't say who said it, but someone yells, Adams away.
And then they start throwing all those Adams.
I bet those things hurt.
I noticed that too.
I don't think it was anybody on the team because because
in in the school in the science class there's there's a bunch of kids outside of the just the
hockey kids and so they the hockey kids start pushing each other and then i think one of the
other kids stands up on the desk and it's like and then they all just start throwing shit at each
other oh it's it's great it's great that
and then the one girl is just sitting there just putting that tammy that's tammy right is that i i
didn't i couldn't tell if it was tammy or if it was just another girl and like was actually sitting
there putting the ad because tammy ended up getting a detention uh but the other girl probably wasn't tammy then was just
sitting there just you know putting together the just do adam as requested yeah she's doing the
schoolwork she doesn't have time for all this fucking hockey drama you know she's trying to
she's trying to get a scholarship yeah she's she's got an academic scholarship writing on the line Like we know it's important to start at middle school, but I love that the teacher comes running back in. He's like, my Adams, my Adams. then what happens she they just they hit her with the quacks and the kids start quacking at the
principal and that's how we we round out our trip to uh to the middle school yes what a and like
what a great wave of of nostalgia to to to travel back to science class you know i don't know how
how old our younger listeners are but putting
the atoms together for me it was a it was a great you know wave of nostalgia you know reminiscing
about middle school science class what a what a great time what a great time yeah everybody
loved putting atoms together put one together that looked like a penis and showing your buddies
secretly you know so the teacher couldn't see.
Check it out, buddy.
You know, middle school boys.
We're immature.
That's what we do.
Classic.
Anyway, so the kids are quacking.
They're having a good time.
And then we cut to the Duckworth law firm.
Yes.
Brandon, and we have Bombay coming in.
I want to point out, do you notice
when
Duckworth opens the door and he brings
Bombay in, he says something
right off the bat. Do you
know what he says to him?
Thanks for coming by
on such short notice, Gordon.
And then after that. your court release came through.
Congrats.
Your community service is over.
So that, that's what I want to focus on right now.
So Duxworth at this point in time, Duxworth went to the judge.
Cause I, I, I feel like that, that line gets lost in what happens in the rest of this,
the scene, but it's very
important to the to i think at least the motive for ducksworth here yeah because he he he opens
the door he lets let's bombay in and he says hey i got your court ordered community service
because if we if we remember back to the the scene where ducksworth lays out what has to happen for
him yeah i'm like that i he he mentions that the leave of absence is his idea i now after this i'm
convinced the community service is his idea as well ducks ducksworth has a lot of pull with the
judge that ended up sentencing bombay yeah and so what he says right here is he
says i went to the judge and i got your community service wiped out and so what what he essentially
what he's saying is he's saying you don't have to coach the ducks anymore and then he's banking on
bombay being like oh thank god i don't have to coach the Ducks anymore, which alleviates any emotional tie he
has to this situation
going forward. Yes.
Yeah. And then it didn't work.
No, no, no.
I mean, yeah, he tried
his best, but so hit us with the rest
of the scene here, Heath.
This is a fucking doozy.
Yeah. And so
court release came
through and then um bombay's like oh so are we talking about me get my job back and and coming
back to the firm and um oh looks like you got your jersey that's great a lot's been happening
might even make the playoffs and then we hear a big laugh and bombay wheels around and who is it it's none other
than coach riley and mr banks sitting at the table and ducksworth mentions that mr banks is
i have the quote here he's uh phil is one of his oldest friends oldest friends that's right yeah
he's one of his oldest friends and and but like that's right He's one of his oldest friends
But Bombay leans in and goes
Sir, they're the bad guys
Did you see that?
Right?
And then
Mr. Banks is like
Gerald was kind enough to get us all here
To sort this out
And his older brother was a Hawk.
All his little friends are Hawks.
It's where he belongs.
And so Mr. Banks, Coach Riley, Mr. Dexworth,
they're all Banks is going to be a Hawk.
That's what they're here to decide.
We're going to reverse the decision.
And what do they say?
Banks will be able to finish the season as a Hawk and then
at the end of the year, they're going to
redraw the lines, the district lines.
Some more fucking gerrymandering.
Some goddamn gerrymandering.
That's exactly what it is because Riley
is like, listen, it's tradition. You
get it, Gordon. You played.
And so
Bombay's like, hey man, the league
ruled it out and that's where he's like, all right man, the league ruled it out.
And that's where he's like, all right, so we cut a deal with the league, long and short of it.
Which I love because even Bombay calls it out.
He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You cut a deal with the Pee Wee Hockey League.
And calls it out.
That's the amount of pettiness we're going for right now is you're cutting deals with the peewee fucking hockey league.
Yeah, he calls out how absolutely ludicrous it is.
And then they say they're going to redraft the lines correctly.
Correctly.
Correct. Because the previous redraft was obviously wrong.
Obviously.
Exactly.
And so,
but the best part about it all is that the league is like,
listen,
that's fine.
No worries.
Like whatever.
We don't give a shit,
but you just got to,
you know,
make Bombay take away his formal protest.
Yeah.
And he's got to withdraw that.
And Bombay,
I love it. Cause he just gets like a sly grin he's like
right that's great you can tell he know he right that a slight little grin he's like i got it
that that's that's my fucking loophole i got it i know exactly what i'm about to do with this now
um and then he's like listen no sir you don't understand and he gets ready for his big speech
and he's like you know you you uh told me to go learn to be a part of a team. And maybe I haven't done it yet,
but I remember something my father said to me, you know, a team, it's not just a bunch of kids
looking to win. It's something you belong to something you have to earn. And Bombay is not
going to let those kids down. Duxworth is like alright bud
listen here
either cut the shit or you're
fired
I love this scene because
I love it because it's
both the guy who plays
Duxworth I forget his name
but him and Bombay both
like the delivery and the acting in the scene
i think is fucking top notch yeah it's so good because ducksworth goes up to him and goes up to
bombay like he sneaks he gets up real close to him away from the other two and he's like like
hushed toned whispered and he goes bombay um are you willing to lose your job
over a bunch of kids
a game?
And then Bombay retorts back,
whispered tones again away from everybody else,
and he goes, well, sir, are you willing to
fire me over some
kids a game?
Go get your belongings.
Yeah, go clean out your desk.
Such a good scene.
Like acting top notch.
Everybody delivered.
But you missed it.
My favorite part is funny.
It's like, yes, Mr. Duck's word.
Thank you very much, Mr. Duck's word.
That's what he does after.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack.
Then he lets him know, like, you may have paid for this jersey, but you didn't earn it.
See you in the playoffs, right?
Boom.
Mic drop.
So this brings up a thing.
So they were named the Ducks after Ducksworth, right?
Yeah.
So now that he doesn't work at Ducks ducksworth anymore and they had a huge blowing up
ducksworth is not a part of the ducks anymore um do you are you keeping the name just out of spite
do you go to the trouble of changing the name yeah i think that just like once you're ducks
you're ducks like you can't go back
yeah and i guess ducks and ducks worth it's like kind of it's enough of a of not you know there's
enough leeway to be like okay we're we're not really named after him yeah exactly but like it's
it's far enough away but so the the issue the so the the question i have, though, because we've talked about Game Changers before, right?
We've talked about Game Changers.
Yeah.
In the very first episode.
In all of Game Changers, both Alex and Stephanie work at Duxworth Law, right?
Yeah.
And Duxworth, in the first episode episode you see somebody who's named ducksworth
yeah you see one of the lawyers named ducksworth a descendant of ducksworth
who seems at least mildly interested in the team because stephanie's kids play for the team. So I imagine the law firm has at least a passing interest in the new ducks
or the, you know, the game changers ducks. Yeah.
So what happened between now and then to where,
cause I feel like at that point, well,
blow up how do you mend that relationship?
Well, cause banks goes on to be a duck.
And so his dad probably goes back to Duckworth and is like, listen, man.
You know, I fucked up.
Really?
Because he doesn't happy.
We don't see the dad ever again.
That's after this movie.
Yeah.
We see the dad at the end where he's sitting like spoilers for the listeners.
But is he
in the crowd yeah yeah yeah we see
the dad in the crowd like convert
over to the ducks and so
like do you think that
that's do you think that's what it's just winning
winning cures all that's what it is
it's 100% what it is the
ducks win banks
his dad is on board because
the ducks are winning and not only are the
ducks winning,
but the ducks are making banks look like the greatest hockey player in the
history of Minnesota.
And so his dad is suddenly on board and he probably goes back.
Cause he goes back to Phil and is like, Hey, Phil, listen,
but I know I was a real peeved about this duck situation before,
but got a winner on our hands now, so I think we can sign off on it.
Okay.
Okay.
I guess that makes sense.
Winning is your result.
And then they're back.
And then they're back.
Because you're not going to pull your sponsorship from state champs.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Sure.
I guess.
Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. yeah i mean yeah i sure i guess whatever what whatever so anyway so we'll see you in the playoffs then we cut scene because bombay is uh transporting himself over to the school so
yeah also so now he's he's he's back in the mindset of coaching he's like he's this lit a
fire under his ass and he's like okay i need to still coach this i need to i gotta at the very
least i need to do something to stick it to ducksworth you know so he's gonna keep coaching
the ducks yeah and so he gets to the school and he pulls up to the office and uh the principal
is there and he's like hey i'm looking
for some students so so he a just walks right into the school the what uh what uh what that's
the 90s what a difference time has made here he just walks into the school and he says hey i'm
looking for he gives a fucking handwritten list to the principal and it's like i'm looking for
each of these kids and the principal tells him exactly where they are and where to go to get to them
the fucking 90s dude the fucking 90s listen man like not to age myself too much but like our
middle school got shut down because of a bat and mold infestation um and so it got shut down and so we ended up my entire middle
school tenure we went in like trailers they were called modules and except the problem was is that
it's in the middle of the winter in nebraska and we were waiting we would have to like wait outside
in between classes in like the snow like it was like blustering snow around us and like we
would have to like bundle up as we like went to our next class and like wear boots it was just
it was it was absurd you know so like i i mean i get it the 90s were a weird time yeah the 90s
were definitely a weird time when you could literally just do whatever just like walk in
yeah this is some 30 year old guy could just walk
into a school and be like, I need to see these
kids. I have a list of names.
Here they are in an
unsupervised room. Go have
at it. You know, just fucking
yeah. Room 223.
Have at it.
But I love that he's like all of them
and she's like all of them.
Yeah. Her like her eye twitches when she says it to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like she is.
She is super pissed.
And so.
Well, they just they just quacked at her.
I'd be fucking pissed, too.
Yeah.
She's she's livid.
And they're going like Bart Simpson style writing, writing on the chart on the chalkboard.
And they're all saying that I will not quack at the principal. They're writing lines on the chalkboard and they're all saying that i will not quack at the principal they're writing
lines on the chalkboard wow like once again another another another yeah yeah another
throwback i don't think yeah i don't think they even have chalkboards anymore no they're all
training race boards or they have like those crazy i like right when i was graduating high school
they started like doing all those smart board shit where it's like oh really yeah no way where it's like a you like roll in a thing and it's
like a board and it's connected to the computer and you like write on it as if it was a whiteboard
oh okay it's like you're writing on your tablet and then it like yeah like the tablet projects up
yeah and then you can you can
like like if you're like you were like you wrote as if you were writing on a whiteboard and then
you could save it you know like if that was like an important whiteboard thing you needed to come
back to you could save it wow you know it was so i i granted i don't know if that it was it was a
real spotty technology when i was in high school i have announced
well yeah i mean if they if they continued with it you know i mean there's certain things like
technology just you know like i feel like a whiteboard a chalkboard like that's that's
shit that like you just like no matter in like you know the year 4000 there's still going to
be like a whiteboard or a chalkboard there's going going to be a board kind of thing. Cause it's just, you know,
you can't fuck that up. You know, it's, it's there, it's airproof.
You gotta, that's where he like, you know,
you learn to deal with adversity at a young age.
Like when you get called to go up to that board,
that's like your first true lesson of how to deal with anxiety right like that's
those are the lessons that you need to learn you write like half the answer and then you
turn to the teacher and you're like is that is that my track no no no okay kind of like give
her the eye like oh or like you got your buddy and when you're like oh you're stretching back
to like oh my back is kind of hurt like looking at your buddy and it's like, no, no shit.
I'm way off.
Okay.
It's always the math problems.
It got me anyways.
Anyway.
So there, the kids are writing on the chalkboard.
And Bombay comes in and they're like, Hey, what are you doing here?
And Bombay is like, listen, I want to talk to you.
Why don't y'all just sit down?
And they all just give him the stink eye. And he's like don't don't sit down but but what's what's done is
done let's we gotta i want to coach you guys again let's we gotta move past this and and they're like
hey you want to you want to coach losers he's like no i'm gonna coach the ducks the ducks yeah
they're like and and then carp is like
what about all the things you said saying we didn't deserve to live and bombay's like i was
being sarcastic have you ever heard of that no see so this goes back i believe we talked about
it in part three then why did they flip out when the first thing when it first happened of all of all
people peter should understand what the fuck sarcasm is yeah you know he speaks with a thick
veil of sarcasm sarcasm constantly and like it just yeah it didn't make any sense that they got mad, but like Bombay is like, you know, it didn't mean to for it to sound that way.
Do you guys know what it means to be misunderstood?
And then Peter is like, yeah, of course, we're kids.
And it's like, well, then why did you get?
Yeah, come on.
I don't know.
I didn't get it.
Like, it's just I don't understand.
But Bombay is like, hey, can you forgive me?
Guy is worried about banks. You know, like hey what about banks and and bombay's like yeah because he's because he has proven himself as the best player on the team he's got like 18 goals
he doesn't want to lose his starting spot on the front line you know like banks is going to jump
in there although gee banks and j Jesse on the front line, that's
a nice
trio right there.
It's been a while since I've watched D2,
but I believe
that's the line they rock
D2 with, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Guy at center, Banks on the wing, and then Jesse
on the other wing.
Fantastic fucking line, dude. Beautiful line. banks on the the wing and then jesse on the other wing which is yeah fantastic line dude yeah
beautiful line um and and uh well i think it's funny that bombay's like listen he can play if
he wants to um he should have been here the whole time it's you all that got cheated we just lead
with that bombay why is that not the first thing you said when banks was going to come over yeah we talked about this for sure but like like know your audience yeah like the messaging could
have been could have saved all of these shenanigans but but anyways so he's like but then he makes the
the like wink at charlie and he's like i made you guys and now I'm stuck with you. So what's it's going to be? How about, what do you, what do you say, Peter,
are you going to play tomorrow or do you want to forfeit the season's over?
And then Peter shows a little bit of insight and he's like, Hey, no,
Bobby, let's practice. Yeah. Let's, let's practice.
And so Bombay is going to get them out of detention.
And so the kids are celebrating
um and then he's like um so you really quacked at the principal are we ducks or what and you know
it's a really feel good and they're there with them celebrating you know the blackboard has i
will not quack at the principal like i mean you want to talk about being quackalicious
that's that's what that scene was
right there
super quackalicious
super
it's gonna be the new
the new opening theme
song for Game Changers
season two
they're bringing
Fergie and distinct quackalicious i mean honestly i'd be all for that
if you get her to spell it out is is is that the the song where she spells it out it's for delicious
yeah yeah yeah you can spell out quackalicious i'm all i'm on board i'm on board listen as long
as she doesn't sing the national anthem i think think we're fine. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.
That was rough.
That was rough.
All the players started laughing.
And they were trying to, like, that was my favorite part out of all of it was the videos that came out afterwards of all the players trying to, like, be nice.
And keep straight faces.
And then you can tell when, like, some of them, like, caught eyes.
And they would, like, they would just, like, would just like bolt like break you know what i mean like it's like glass when you're trying not
to laugh because the teacher's gonna like actually flip out yeah you like put your head in your chest
yeah yeah you just kind of like the quick look away like there were so many players that did
that and i can't remember who it was like actually burst out laughing but anyway i think it i think
it was draymond draymond i think like uh oh was it crack his smile and chuckled a little bit yeah okay you're right i think you're right i
think you're right and i'm i'm glad that's right on brand with him but anyways um so so are we
ducks or what we're feeling good we go to the locker room we're gearing up to uh we got to play
to get into the playoffs um Playing the Huskies.
Who, if you flashback to, was it part three that was the standings or part two, part three, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
So flashback, the Huskies are only one game ahead of us, right?
Yeah.
They're only one game ahead of us.
Got to win to get in.
Yeah.
So if we beat the Huskies, we're in the playoffs.
Yep. only got a win to get in yeah so if we beat the huskies we're in the playoffs yep and and so we we find so we get to the game and we find out uh based on the uh again the arena signage that is in
the the the arena we find out that the huskies are from minnetonka oh nice i the minna the
minnetonka huskies i i love that i love. But did you did you pick up on some of the greatness that was taking place in the locker room when they cut into it?
Because if you didn't, I've got a little bit of a breakdown for you because it.
I didn't. What was going on?
It comes in and Carp is sho peter into a locker and then you just i can't tell where it comes from
but a quote pops up on the subtitles and it says look at your mother and then another one
let's see how it goes in 10 minutes i'm gonna kill you And then it shows like someone else is getting chased and then banks starts
like slowly idling in.
So like,
I don't know what kind of pregame shenanigans are taking place in there,
but like Bombay has got to get that fucking locker room locked down,
man.
Like there's,
that is not good.
You got to keep them loose.
That's, that's, you know, you got, you got to, youigans. You got to keep them loose. That's too loose.
No, you got to let it flow before the game.
Oh, man.
Keep it loose.
Let it go.
And then once you get on the ice, that's when you lock it down.
Oh, man.
I don't know.
But Banks comes idling in.
And my favorite part is Bombay is like, oh, hey, what's up, man?
Yeah, didn't know if you'd show up.
Right on. Good to see you.
And then the first kid,
of course, again, Bombay,
like you mentioned, Bombay needs to get control
of this locker room. Yeah, he does a terrible job.
The first kid
that Banks sees is Jesse.
And we know
for a fact Jesse is not a Banks fan
yeah and so of course this goes so much deeper than hockey though this is this is class bully
like this is like so much deeper than hockey and it just like especially when you factor in the
the cake eater yeah this is like class warfare we got going on right here between exactly and we need
some more eq from bombay some more you know yeah you can't you can't let you can't let jesse hall
be the first kid that bank sees you know when he walks in there because like imagine walking into
a locker room and then the first kid you you make eye contact with calls you a cake eater
like yeah i mean you know i i know it's even even
so emotional intelligence wasn't like running rampant to be taught but and the and the cake
eater slur as accurate as it is for banks you still can't let that happen you know yeah but
but like charlie tried charlie's like on behalf of the ducks i just want to say so that that's
the kid that's that's who you open you
you the first kid he should meet is the captain charlie you know you let charlie fucking get in
there you can't as as much as i love jesse the enforcer you can't let him be the he's got too
much he's got too much angst built up you can't let him be the the first the first kid anybody
meets i but i love this exchange because uh jesse just pops up and just looks
at him and just goes cake eater and then averman crushes this right here he goes oh jess man this
is the new guy the jester
and um that was just so epic by Averman again.
But then, you know, Jesse yells at him to shut up.
And he's like, Jesus, I'm just kidding.
He's like, listen, man, you know, just because you put on a Ducks jersey doesn't mean you're a real Duck.
And then Bombay sits there and does nothing as the team storms past there.
Like, he has got to jump in.
He's got to intervene.
He's got to do something.
It's a reverse Rudy moment is what it is.
They all walk out one by one.
And they're all like,
kind of like kicking,
like some of them are like kicking a stick as they walk by as like a show
of aggression to their new teammate.
Banks still has his Hawks bag.
Like,
I mean,
Bombay,
I just,
the,
the lack of Bombay stepping in as a
coach i just i i didn't like that man like he just alienated banks like he's lucky that banks play
the way he did you know but like we'll talk about on the ice in a second but if i was banks i was
terrible oh yeah yeah dude like that guy's a dick yeah sucks That guy's a dick And then he's like
And then Bombay's like
They grow on you, and he's like, I bet
And then Bombay's just like
Alright man, gear up and we'll see you on the ice
And leaves him in the locker room
Himself
What in the actual
Anyway, alright, so
Poorly handled
Banks introduction
Aside I guess
That bothered me a lot
I felt bad for Banks more than anything
Here we have your future star player
And your introduction
Is just dog shit
And he knows
They've already been very clear that they do not want
him on the team like it'd be different if this was a surprise or something but like everyone has been
very vocal that they don't want banks on the team and he's like you know what we should do
surprise intros all right anyways sorry um we cut to the ice. But what we do, what we have is we got some game action,
and we've got Banks skating back and forth asking for the puck.
Wide open.
Wide fucking open.
Wide open.
Could not be more open.
And Bombay, pass it to Banks.
And then Banks is like, do something with it.
Yeah, but Banks is like, if you're not going to pass it to me,
just fucking shoot it.
Do something.
You're just fucking sitting there with the puck like an idiot.
Yeah.
And then finally gets the pass, though, and just rips it right in.
Rips it right in.
Yep.
And then.
We'll snipe Selly, boys.
Dirty fucking dangles, boys.
It was a dirty dangle. It was a dirty dangle for sure and then the celebration on the bench you did you see what i saw oh no i i maybe missed it
our our you know podcast favorite mc gainey's on the bench for this game oh yeah okay so i i was
wondering if that's where you're gonna go but yeah. But yeah, he's very prevalent in this montage. Like he's a part of the team. He's on the bench. Yeah. Unofficial assistant coach. Like I love that even though Bombay's time is up, like I love that like they're still buddies. You know what I mean? Like there's no way Duckworth is paying for him to drive him around anymore. Like now he's just a part of the team.
I didn't even think about that.
Yeah.
They for sure would have cut off the service.
Yeah.
Now they're just friends.
Just little chums.
Yeah.
They're just doing like, he's just like, listen, man, I'm in.
Let's just make it to the end of the year.
I got you guys.
I'll drive you around.
So I love that.
That bar.
Do you know what I mean?
So, but like, you know what I didn't like though,
is that when everyone's celebrating, Jesse's looking pissed do you know what i mean so um but like you know what i didn't like though is that when everyone's celebrating jesse's looking pissed you know well yeah because it's
i mean banks banks is the one who scored he just uh but but and then that game ends really quick
and it's tied and with 16 seconds left the team's excited in the huddle bombay's like listen you
guys we got to pull the goalie um yeah so yeah he wants to
pull the goalie and car is it carps the one who's like why are you doing goalie we're tied and
bombay's like a tie does us no good we need to win we got to win in order to get the tiebreaker
to get us into the playoffs yeah get the puck to fulton uh and then and then um i love this
and fulton's like but coach one out of five and and
your boy gee comes in there and he's like listen for soft hands concentration not strength so so
yes so gee comes in captain gee comes in with some great fucking advice and he goes yeah he goes
wait what's he say concentration not strength right yeah soft hands fulton
concentration not strength and then you see what he does after he says that
he turns to connie gives her a wink oh god playa playa love it he's the fucking best i love you
um so so um they're but they're they're all but they're, they're all in there. Like, all right, man, we're going to get the puck to Fulton.
There's 16 seconds left and this almost bites them in the took us one.
You might even say, because the ducks win the face off.
So it's, it's one of those things we talked about this in game changers with,
um, these sequences just are not realistic yeah well and then also with with
logan and his his order up thing right where it's logan and his order up fulton and a slap shot um
and then russ and the knuckle puck right yeah great great plays if you're doing it for the
first fucking time and catch people by surprise.
But if you do it enough, people catch on that.
That's the only fucking thing that you do when this guy's on the ice.
And so then they lock into it.
And so what happens is they pass it to Fulton.
Fulton gets ready to shoot it.
And the Huskies are like, I know what's going to happen.
Yeah.
Statue of Liberty play.
So he just runs.
So one of the Husky guys just runs up and pokes the puck away from Fulton it's like i know what you're going to do this is my puck now
like yeah you gotta you know one trick ponies don't they don't they don't last you gotta you
gotta mix it up here but luckily fulton shows some quick feet and some quick thinking and
chases the guy down rips the puck right back away from him,
gets back, and this feels like this shot is coming from like a mile away,
but he cocks it.
He pulls up from half court.
It's, well, you know, half, half.
Mid-ice.
Center-ice is what they call it.
Center-ice.
Half court.
You know what I'm saying.
This is a half court shot that Fulton just zips through. It's coming so fast that the goalie actually sprints out of the goal,
and it just rips through the net.
Rips through the net.
Goes through the net.
That is a 150-mile-an-hour slap shot that just took place.
From a fucking 11-year-old.
Yeah.
What a win.
What a win.
And so they get the win.
We're in the playoffs. Yeah. And that's
to it cuts to the paper
cuts to the paper. And we get this
great headline where it says
Fulton Reed. And this is so
this is the paper America what was it called
I forget what it's called I forget it's like a hockey hockey now is what it's called yeah hockey
now America's number one hockey pop uh publication yeah and so again front page
the peewee Minnesota hockey league front page page you know on america's number one hockey
publication and the headline is fulton reeds herculean last second goal rips net and propels
ducks to win and then uh the byline is uh larry brock larry bach i don't know if that's an actual
writer or if that's one of the it's probably probably one of the, like the crew members or the producers or whatever,
Larry Bach.
But so the,
it,
the,
it only shows the first paragraph of the,
the article.
And it's just a John,
a dumb John Madden quote.
So there's nothing to pull away from there,
but.
Was there a boom tough act in Tenecton.
Remember when we talked about that?
I don't know the last one.
So it was Coop Sox?
It wasn't tough acting, tenacting, unfortunately.
John Madden once said, never estimate your opponent.
In estimating your opponent, you might underestimate them.
My favorite is the Frank Caliendo impressions,
where he impersonates John Madden
with like the yellow pen on Sundays.
And he's like, yeah, you know, like we got, we got boom here,
the tackle kicking out and then the running backs go boom here.
And then we're going to go boom to the end zone.
That's boom.
It's just roast John Madden.
Anyways, that was a terrible impression, but that's, that's what I think.
I think of Frank Caliendo and I think of John Madden, that was a terrible impression, but that's what I think. I think of Frank Caliendo, and I think of John Madden, that poor guy,
because he was a great broadcaster, and it reminds me of you.
Anyways, so Fulton hits the Herculean last-second shot
to propel the Ducks into the playoffs.
But before –
We're in the playoffs. This is what we've been waiting for, Heath.
We're in the playoffs. We're in the playoffs.
And then Bombay does, you know, kind of like a corporate retreat type of action where before we gear up for the stress of the playoffs, we are going to do some, some good old fashioned team building.
He's going to pull some strings and he's going to go.
We, we pan to the team arriving at the minnesota north stars what a
throwback um in their arena so the minnesota north stars in 1990 they probably shot this in 91 the
movie came out in 92 um and then the north stars moved in 93 so this is real close to when they had when they ship out to dallas when they ship
out to dallas and i i so i want to i want to talk about the scene because i have some thoughts
so so they they so it shows them why their walk so so uh he pulls bombay pulls some strings
he gets them to be able to practice on the north stars ice so it's the huge arena they're on the
ice they're practicing and it's it's it's literally them going onto the ice right as the the actual
minnesota north stars come off of the ice for their practice okay yeah so they're they're walking
past and you see so then you get you get a couple uh you get a little interaction between a couple north stars players and then bombay and the kids and the two north star players
are basil mccray and mike madonna and mike madonna well basil mccray that's a fucking name right there
bud basil mccray is like one of the most underrated hockey players of all time he's
basil mccray is fantastic and especially because of the name basil
basil mccray is just a great
regardless of whatever profession you're going
into basil mccray is a fucking
legit name wait before we get too
far can we talk about the weird fucking
comment that one dude made
when he was like when he was like
yeah this guy used to dominate peewee
and he was like oh yeah i heard you were
a farmer yeah what the fuck was that yeah so so like that was a lawyer but uh well so yeah so so they come
up so so it's basil and mike badano are walking uh basil's in front mike badano's in the back and
they're walking off the ice and they basil spots bomb Yeah. And then the kids are right behind Bombay. He spots Bombay and he stopped and he goes,
Hey,
he like recognizes Bombay.
Youth hockey.
So he,
so the,
the movie,
the movie,
the movie says that Basil recognizes him from youth hockey.
Right.
Yeah.
We've,
we,
we have established Bombay played youth hockey in minnesota yeah
bombay was a member of the adina hawks and he played under coach riley i think coach really
said for nine years six or nine years i forget which one it was six or nine years he played
peewee hockey in minnesota basil mccray is from canada okay what about mike madonna
mike madonna is not the one who says it mike
madonna doesn't say that basil mccray says mike madonna doesn't know bombay other than him being
maybe a farmer is what was what mike madonna says he said you were a farmer which a it doesn't make
any sense why he would even know of bombay let alone i think he was something that he wasn't
like why would you think he was a farmer? I became a lawyer, but I coach
Peewee hockey. I think that was
just a weird joke going back to Hans when
Hans keeps calling him a doctor. Like they just
keep, you know, I think that's what they were going
for. It was just like making fun of him for
like not, you know, thinking he's something
he's not whatever that is about. But
Basil McRae says, I recognize you from Peewee
hockey. You were legit. I played
with you. You're fucking awesome. I'll get you a tryout if you want. Basil McRae says, I recognize you from peewee hockey. You were legit. I played with you. You're fucking awesome.
I'll get you a tryout if you want.
Basil McRae is from Beaverton, Ontario, Canada.
Okay.
He is not from Minnesota.
There's no fucking way they would have played peewee hockey together.
Now, I say that.
I say there's no way they would have played peewee hockey together.
They could have played juniors.
They could have played juniors.
They could have played college.
They could have played juniors they could have played college they could have played whatever together but peewee hockey the one thing we know they couldn't have fucking
played together is what he says he says i know you from peewee hockey he was legit in peewee
hockey it doesn't make any fucking sense drove me up this is a loophole that cannot and shall not
stand and no it's it nonsense. It's fucking nonsense.
And then you get...
And I love that he never
saw him or heard from him again
and immediately...
Immediately recognizes him.
And then immediately assumes that he's still
good enough to
warrant a tryout
with one of the minor league clubs.
Where did this... where did his intel
come from that bombay can still can still skate he's a fucking lawyer i mean he he everybody knows
that the if you're good at hockey when you're 10 years old you're good at hockey forever that whole
that whole setup and scene just it didn't it didn't move it was so weird it didn't move the storyline
they threw it in there because they obviously wanted to have like an nhl cameo they wanted
somebody but like make him say something coherent make him say something that doesn't
fucking sound stupid it's like all right good seeing you and then bomb like it was just so
throw it's like all right good seeing you and then bombay's like all right you're ready to have some fun and that's it and then the kids are
well so he thought he throws out the the tryout idea right he's like hey yeah you know let me know
i'll get you a tryout and then they just walk away and then that's the last you hear of that
until spoiler alert the end of the movie when he goes out for the tryout but like like it just they
could have handled that that nhl cameo so much
better it it was it was very weird and the fact that basil mccray who's from beaverton ontario
canada says he played peewee hockey with gordon bombay drives me up the wall doesn't make any
fucking sense wasn't uh wasn't a good one but i i would love to get basil mccray on the podcast to
to to go through this to set just let's let's go through
the logistics maybe maybe behind the scenes because the the information that i have granted it was it
was so i should i probably should have led with this it was a very quick wikipedia search on
basil mccray to see where he was from it said he was born in beaverton, Ontario, Canada What if he moved Maybe he moved
To Minneapolis
In the time between then
And Pee Wee Hockey
If that's the case, Basil, come on the podcast
Explain it, call me a liar
Let's go through this
If not, I still call fucking bullshit
Yeah, I was just going to say
Because you're going to look like a real dick
And he did end up moving to uh minnesota
when he was 10 years old if that's the case then come on the podcast and let's let's let's hash
this out real fucking piece of work aren't you breathing here talking shit about basil
put in the car ahead of the horse here a little bit but that's fine i'm you know i stand by it i'm willing to die on this sword all right so awkward or just not awkward but just kind of like
mishandled nhl player interaction aside we get into a very nice montage of the kiddos classic
90s montage classic and like a great song choice we got connie and gee holding hands we see the young romance blossoming um i thought
it was great um seeing like how much lewis means to the team because everyone's out he's out there
he's getting pushed around in the chair because you can so like i don't know if you picked up on
this um lewis i picked up on the fact that lewis couldn't skate and so he started out in a chair
and then the kids started pushing
him around and then they started kind of like teaching him how to skate because he was kind of
like meandering around there a little bit and it looks like at one point they're racing um because
then they're racing and sliding into the boards um charlie's playing make believe lewis um after
he's learning how to skate wipes out bombay and then we get some figure skating
so i want to point out the the scene where he granted the the all of the stuff within this
montage looks very real like very much that they just put the kids out there and they were like
just fucking skate around and i bet it was like really cool i actually wrote that yeah and i get but i get i guarantee you the scene where
uh lewis wipes out bombay was not scripted was not written just happened and then they put it
in the movie because bombay's reaction to that is like so genuine and well i should say emilio's
reaction to that is so genuine
and hilarious that there's no way they could have fucking scripted that yeah i i love that
i well because like even like the kids reactions to like a child actor not going and skating and
doing that stuff at the stars arena but that was so much fun oh yeah it would have been a
fucking blast you gotta do that stuff.
You got to meet Basil McRae.
What a great fucking day.
Yeah.
I mean, we used to do that stuff, right?
Like, we'd have, like, after games, like, post-game skates
and stuff like that for, like, companies.
And anyways, it was – you'll love to see it for the kiddos.
But then we kind of switch over.
Then they're at the Stars game.
Not only are they getting the pregame scape
But then they get featured on the big screen
And everyone's cheering
You see Guy making another move
With Connie
Kind of locking that hand in hand
Oh man
And then the Hawks see Banks
There's a couple fucking Hawk nerds
At the game too
And Jesse,
but Jesse catches banks kind of like crouching down,
trying not to be seen.
And you just see some additional anger.
And then you see Bombay and Charlie really kind of.
Hamming it up at the game,
setting up that relationship.
Yep.
And then we're done.
We're done with the stars.
We're done with the stars hockey because we've got Bombay and Charlie
getting some dinner ready for mom.
Yeah. Cooking dinner. Home cooked meal for Casey Conway.
So mom is working and Bombay is post-practice at home with Charlie
preparing dinner. And Bombay is like hey Charlie what if
we or wait no before that though did you there's another weird interaction where Charlie's like so
the North Stars wore the same underwear all through the playoffs last year and I'm doing
the same thing right now and Bombay's like I guess I should have cooked yeah there's a yeah
they talk about the a weird superstition um going back going back to kuban
his socks you know i mean but that's another thing like what's up with the socks and then
the underwear dude like those underwear like they're gonna be uncomfortable because they're
gonna be like crispy and also so halfway through the playoffs if you're not watching this i'm gonna
give the north stars the benefit of the doubt here because.
So we know Coop wasn't washing his socks in between games,
but all Charlie says is that they were the same.
The Minnesota North Stars were wearing the same underwear for every single
game.
I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and pray to God that they
wash them in between.
Okay.
That's a great call out
because that does sound like they wash them they were the same not same same pair but we're washing
them in between you know everybody's got their lucky pair of jeans you know yeah what what what's
what's the office what does michael call his jeans the the ones uh oh but you you know what i'm talking about yeah everybody's got
those pair of jeans that they wear or or their their pair of pants or whatever that they or
their shirt or whatever that they wear for special occasions you know make some look really make some
look good make some feel good michael get some dry clean to remember exactly yeah yeah so i'm
assuming that's what the the dallas or the minnesota noise stars are wearing the same
underwear forever again but they're getting them dry cleaned in between, you know?
Yeah. Okay. But then, but then Bombay tries to tell us Charlie, like, Hey,
what if we go to the winter festival tonight? The three of us.
And Charlie, once again, playing wing man, it's like, Hey,
Charlie's like, Hey, why don't you Go with my mom
And then mom comes home
Food smells great
Charlie gives Bombay the wink
Go for it
And is just absolutely pimping his mom out
And so this is
Not my favorite part
Of the movie but I get why it's in there
But it's the hallmark portion
Of the movie where
I want to
i want to point out that the hat that casey wears in this scene is what is it absolutely stupid
absolutely stupid it's like a bright it's like a bright red bucket hat
but i i think it's like made of like felt or something or like oh yeah it's like fuzzy
it's the ugliest thing i've ever seen in my entire life i not a fan not a fan it's there's
like you're you're you're a perfectly good looking woman casey conway that hat is doing you no favors
though zero favors no and so we'll just recap this scene
really quick because i i like this scenes was just fine by me but more or less what happens
is bombay and charlie's mom casey are on a date their first date at the winter festival and she's
kind of nervous and rambling on i do want to say sweet winter festival though with like eye
sculptures and shit i would go to that i would definitely do that you know downtown houston on like discovery green and stuff always had like
really nice lights and everything like it wasn't a winter festival right because there's no such
thing as winter down there really but you know um i except for last year like everything broke
oh yeah we're not ready to handle a real winter yeah yeah but anyways um so so she's mumbling about the
sculptures and like how they're built and just i am a sucker i'm a sucker for ice sculptures though
i love a good ice sculpture they are you hit the nail on the head like that would have been awesome
i would have definitely wanted to to go down there but like we're not getting that down here where
we're at now in the southeast either like no no no that ice that ice would melt within seconds
yeah our winters
are very different. It just
rains the whole time here, which is fucking bullshit.
I know, because you want to go do stuff.
But anyways,
so she's talking about
she's mumbling on,
she's bonding with Bombay, but then she turns to
this huge building. It looks like maybe a church
or something, or some
kind of large building. And she's like, oh, I used to pretend that this was my big ice castle and then last year i gave charlie
his room and then bombay the audacity just comes in real hot he's like oh which one's mine i want
to live there too well because you got you so you got to think she says last last year i gave charlie
his last year which means would have been at most 10 years old at
most so she waited 10 years to give her son a room in the same ice castle whatever she called it yeah
and then bombay is like oh that's fine i'll be right there took her own flesh and blood a decade
to be able to get some room aboard in that ice palace.
It's just...
She literally looks at him
and she's like, what the fuck, dude?
I do want to point out
this interaction.
I want to comment on it because
with Brandon's parenting corner,
I do want to say
Casey Conway kills it with this interaction
where she,
she calls him out on his shit. He calls him out on his shit.
And she's like, Hey, like I like her. She's like, I like you.
You like me, which is perfectly fine. Like I'm fine to do this.
Whatever, whatever this is, I'm fine to do this,
but you need to double think about what you're doing to Charlie because Charlie I'm she's like, I'm invested in this. You're invested in this,
but Charlie is invested in this you're invested in this but charlie is invested in this yeah this is all he wants in his entire life is for us to be together so you need
to double double check yourself right now yeah to see if you actually want to get involved in this
because it's a lot the emotional weight to this is a lot more than you are presenting on right now
yeah because she because she called him out she was like like, Oh, you're like, to you, that's
a joke.
Like to you, that's funny.
That's a joke.
But like to him, that's real.
And that's what he wants.
And if you are not ready to, yeah, I agree.
Like what, that's what I was like, the balls of Bombay, like just completely not thinking
about his situation.
And, and I'm so glad that she like came in and was
like hey man like you can't can't just say shit like that because charlie is going to take it
so literally and like what are you going to do that like you can't can't be that guy like you
can't like you can't joke about this stuff it's not funny like it's it's you're not just hooking
up with a single mom if you want a room in the palace, bud.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyways, yeah, I didn't care much for it other than like Charlie's mom just being like, hey, bud, like either cut the shit or let's go. And then Bombay's like, hey, I can deal with this.
It's going to be fine.
Then he leans in and they seal it with a kiss. Get a little,
little kiss, you know? So Bombay's in and then boom, we're done with that shenanigans. We've
moved past it. We are in the playoffs. We got Ducks Hornets, Brandon. First round, first round,
first round. And what do we have? We've got my boy Banks. He must have been feasting on some cake before this game because he's bothered.
He's weaving.
He is just making those Hornets look like they are stuck in cement, my friend,
because whoop, he is shooting and scoring.
My word.
That Banks.
And then it starts getting a little rough.
You know, we see a little rough play.
That's not slowing Banks down He is still out there
Making some shit happen
With that puck
But then, of course, you know who it cuts to
For the third goal in this game
They scored five in this game
It was five to three
But they only show three
Do you remember who they showed for the third goal?
I don't remember, no
Averman
Oh, okay
Averman, dirty fucking dangles, boys
That's what I'm talking about
That's the first thing I said
When I saw Averman hit it home
Yeah, it's not just the jokester
He's bringing more to the table
Not just some lighthearted fun in the locker room Averman hit it home. Yeah, it's not just the jokester, you know. He is not. He's bringing more to the table.
Not just some lighthearted fun in the locker room,
but Averman getting some time and putting some points on the board with the setup from Banks.
Very, very clean pass from Banks.
So, yeah, they get the big win.
Hits up with that 5-3 win over the Hornets.
Sets them up for the Cardinals.
Do you like how it intros into the paper because that was i love i love the intro because they they beat the hornet so it
gets ready for the paper and we get bombay and lewis doing like a really cool twist and
twist into a high five and then the paper comes twirling in afterwards okay did you
did you pay attention to the paper because i just said i got that so i so i got the paper comes twirling in afterwards. Okay. Did you, did you pay attention to the paper?
Cause I just said,
so I,
so I got the paper here.
So,
so,
well,
so what,
so one,
it's the,
they beat the Hornets and then it says,
so the,
the,
the paper comes in,
it says quack attack takes the sting out of the Hornets five to three.
The victory catapults,
the surprising ducks to semi-final game against cardinals that's the
headline that's a fucking mouthful of a headline yeah okay and this this article is by lyle mayor
instead of the larry bach who is last one so lyle you gotta work on your headlines here that's way
too long of a headline then he reminded me of like parks and rec when leslie nope always says
her headlines and they're like fucking five minutes long of her just talking.
She's like,
here's your headline.
Parks department saves festival by creating a better experience.
Shit like that.
Yeah.
But so,
so that's the,
so it says catapults them to the semifinal games.
This was the first round of the playoffs.
If they're going to the semifinal game of the playoffs,
that insinuates that we have an 18 playoff,
right?
Which if we go by our league standings,
which had 10 teams,
but the bottom two don't make it to the playoffs,
that's eight teams.
So this,
this playoff is just the league.
Yeah.
Which is a, So this playoff is just the league. Yeah.
Which is, A, it's different from 1973 because 1973 we had Duluth East, right?
Which is not in this league.
And then it's different from Game Changers because Game Changers we had states.
Yeah.
And even, yeah, even this is supposed to be like the state championship i'm confused that what happened between 1973 and now and then what happened between now
and the game changers which was like 2020 2019 whatever i mean i'm not like i need clarification
on that but so so then the article goes 45 years of like 40 50 years of youth hockey in between
their brand and there's a there's a lot of shit that probably went down.
Are we messing with our playoffs
that much though where we're going in and out
of states? 100%.
Whatever.
Listen, Brandon, you don't know shit
about Minnesota youth
sports.
I will go
one further than that with you.
I don't know shit about Minnesota.
There's a lot of mosquitoes.
10,000.
I've been to Minneapolis one time.
Visited the Mall of America.
It was not
a terrible experience.
The Mall of America is great. Did you go to
Paul Bunyan's
log ride?
I didn't do that.
Oh, no.
Okay. Hold up. Hold the
phone here one second because
you just offended me for just
a half a second. Listen, I have no
ties to the state of Minnesota.
I am a Packers fan and actually
despise all things
Minnesota Vikings. Like, who the fuck wants
to be purple? Gross. Get over yourselves.
But anyways, you cannot sit here and just say the mall of america was just okay when you didn't go on the
paul bunyan log ride or the roller coaster that go that takes you all about the theme park within
i did do the roller coaster
and the only, I will say the only
the only reason I did the roller
coaster is because
Fulton and Charlie do the roller coaster
in D3. That's the only reason I did that
is because I was like, okay, they did this.
So I'm going to do it. That's the only reason I did that.
Paul Bunyan Loggerhead
is dope.
I'm just saying, like listen I respect your opinion
I'm just saying
I will say I'm not a touristy
Type of person though
So like
There's
I'm not going to go on Paul Bunyan's Log Ride ever
Outside of me watching
D3 and being a Mighty Ducks fan
There would have been zero reason for me to do
the even the roller coaster the only reason i did that was because of d3 if it wasn't for d3 i
wouldn't have done that because i don't i don't give a shit about tracy stuff i'm not i'm not
in that vein i don't i don't give a shit about that i don't i'll i'll never forget my trip because
not only did i get to do all that great stuff in the ball of america but i also
got a stefan marbury jersey from oh okay yeah starbury i think it was his rookie year
oh damn okay yeah i'm old brandon the franchise the friend yeah i think i was 10 and i got uh
the because they just updated like their logos and stuff.
And I convinced my parents to, I still have it actually still.
Is that, is that when they went to like the black,
the black and the green and the blue little bit of blue. Okay. Yeah.
But anyway, anyways, you know, we can,
we can pivot back off of your mall of America opinion.
I'm just saying that like for all the listeners out there, if you go to the Mall
of America, you just got to do Paul Budden's log, right?
I'm not... So I want to
clarify.
I wasn't saying the Mall of America was bad or anything.
I wasn't saying it. I was just saying it was fine.
It was fine. It was just... It's a big mall.
My point was... It's a big mall.
My point was that Minnesota
is a perfectly fine city.
Perfectly fine.
You know what else I had there that was very memorable? I went to My point was that Minnesota is a perfectly fine city. Perfectly fine. Okay.
You know what else I had there that was very memorable?
I went to Hard Rock Cafe and it was like a shrimp club sandwich.
It was delicious.
It was like little shrimps with bacon.
So your highlight of a trip, you're going to call out Hard Rock Cafe, which is literally everywhere that you can go.
Oh, I love tourism. I'm the exact opposite of you brandon like i love touristy
stuff like i live in savannah and i go do all the touristy stuff we just did a ghost tour
this week on wednesday we just did a ghost tour it was a walking ghost tours i'll get down on
ghost tours any day i did i did when i was in when i was living in seattle i did countless ghost tours like the the underground tours they have i did i did that ghost
tour like three or four times it's it's fucking fantastic i'm a sucker for ghosts anything ghost
related i'm in yeah because like uh and like all those like 1700s and 1800s ghosts like those
motherfuckers are especially in c it's in seattle like savannah
savannah i haven't gone to i haven't done the ghost tour in savannah yet it's on my list though
i need to fucking do that but the seattle ghost tour was was cool because it was like the underground
tours yeah oh yeah those underground tunnels are cool yes for those of you who don't know seattle
was essentially the the current city of seattle was built on top of the old city.
So like you can legitimately go underneath the streets of Seattle and walk
around.
And so that's probably just bums doing heroin,
but that's either here or there.
Well, in certain pockets, like the underground,
the spots of the underground tour goes, I'm pretty sure they like clean that. you know, they make sure nobody's nobody's crazy going in and they only go into safe spots a lot.
I would imagine a lot of the the the spaces in the underground are not the safest places to go.
You could get a cave in real, real probably quick but um but yeah the seattle underground shit was was tight because yeah the because the underground tour you hop you hop like in the basement and then you hop out
and it's like underneath like city streets and little gate or uh not sewer gates but what's the
you know what i'm talking about heath like Like cemetery gates? No, like when you're in Seattle,
it's like a little gate on the floor.
Like on the river?
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
No matter what happens.
The Underground is super tight.
I highly recommend it for anybody that's going to Seattle.
It's a very touristy little tour thing that they do,
but I highly recommend it.
It's worth it. And they have all sorts of different times. There's a very touristy little tour thing that they do, but I highly recommend it. It's worth it.
And they have all sorts of different times.
There's a ghost one.
There's an adult one that I did on a first date one time where if you go on the adult one, they walk you through underneath where all the brothels used to be.
Nice.
And you get a free drink at the end.
And then they have all sorts of – they have like three or four, I think, other themed ones that ones that you can do so if you're not into ghosts there's plenty of options for you yeah there's
it's because like savannah is one of the most haunted cities in america it's the the most the
the most yeah yeah and so like there's a million well i should i should walk that back new orleans
gives it a run for its money but it's those two. Because they're both like the exact same. It was like, Hey,
here's these like really ancient burial grounds.
Let's just continuously like bury more people on top of it and then build a
city on top of it. Yeah. It's just, it's absurd. Anyways.
So back to where we were, we got the post.
We went a little, well, it goes to our time, right?
But we go back.
We've got Ducks versus Cardinals.
Ducks-Cardinals.
And we've got.
Rematch.
Rematch.
And this is a big game.
We're in the playoffs.
We've got the Cardinals on their blue line.
Semi-finals.
Semi-finals.
Semi-finals.
Sorry.
Semi-finals.
It's going down.
But then we have, this is the call.
Here's the star, Adam Banks, with great speed right down the middle,
goes around one defender and then another and then scores.
And, like, Banks is just killing it in this episode.
And then we got, Banks has it again. They're kind of kicking it in this episode. And then we got Banks has it again.
They're kind of kicking it around the zone,
and then Banks hits it over to Jermaine.
Jermaine scores what ends up being the game winner against the Cardinals
because he pops it off the goalkeeper's glove,
and then that fires up and over in.
And so your boy Guy with the big goal there, big the big goal there and that's it that's the
winner Jermaine yes Guy another a classic I mean he's just destroying the Cardinals again he had
both goals last time or was it three goals it might have been three goals last time
against the Cardinals um so yeah you you put Guy in a game against the cardinals he's scoring a goal guaranteed guaranteed so the announcer is
like oh the ducks that can you believe it they make it to state to play the hawks but did you
hear what the crowd was chanting while all this is going on and they were like gearing up for the celebration i don't think so they were chanting we will we will
quack you is this
fantastic how did you i can't believe you missed that man that's it they ate a sold out jam-packed
crowd for cardinals ducks we will we will quack you Interesting
I didn't catch that
I didn't think the queen stuff came in until the second movie
But
That's because they paid their dues
Time after time
They hit them with the we will quack you
They've got sodas
In the locker room
They're shaking
They're doing like a champagne shower
Like you would They're using coke cans sodas in the locker room they're shaking they're doing like a like a champagne shower like you
would yeah they're using coke cans which yeah look like some some nice product placement there
you know real real sticky guys real sticky yeah yeah but luckily bombay gets cleaned off because
lewis dumps the cooler full of ice and water over the top of him and and then we cut to the end of where this episode,
I guess you could say it ends
because it pivots from the celebration,
the locker room, boom, paper.
We've got Riley on one side.
We've got Bombay on the other side.
The coaching matchup of a lifetime.
Brandon, these papers, you've been on point with them
what do we got to preview for the grand finale so i screenshotted it and i blew it up because
i was very interested after the the fucking nonsense of an article we found in game changers
i'm like there's got to be some gold in these right there's got to be some gold yeah um so i blew it up a i want to point out
the the picture that they used which is uh bombay with half of his face in darkness and then riley
with the other half of his face in darkness and they're standing right next to each other
as nick cage and john travolta face is face off yes yeah face off yeah yeah it's fantastic and uh
way ahead of its time because face off was like what 96
face off face off is for sure after this movie so face i can't copy this you can't quote me on
this but i was just gonna say the director of face off pulled his inspiration for the cover
exactly obviously keep going so that's the photo and then the article next to it. So the headline, we have Bombay versus Riley in Cinderella peewee matchup.
And then the article says Riley's Hawks carry the best record of any team in the Division two state tourney, which is interesting because that's the first.
They don't mention that this is Division 2 at all during the movie And I'm curious
How their divisions
The Minnesota State
Peewee Hockey divisions
Are set up I would love to know
Because that helps explain
Why
Our playoffs are just eight teams then
If it's just the league
I bet it's just since that's Division 2
I bet that's just since that's division two
i bet that's what that means i guess but the so the next sentence is the record also included
some impressive wins over teams that ended up as strong seeds in the division one group
so our so that begs the question so we're playing teams outside of our league then or outside of
our division i just i the the structure of this it just doesn't make any sense to me i need to dive
deeper into this to figure out exactly what's going on it doesn't make any sense but so after
their 4-1 semi-final win behind riley's exciting coaching they are favored to finish off by
sweeping the ducks off the ice tonight. Wow. On their way
to the finals, the Hawks knocked off first
the Flames, then in a close one
at the arena,
whatever that is, they just
beat arch rival
the Jets in a 2-1 thriller, which
is interesting. That's the first time we get mentioned of the
Jets and the Hawks being arch rivals.
Oh, yeah. I didn't
realize that. I wonder i i would love to i
would i think we need a flashback movie about how the hawks and the jets became arch rivals i i need
to know more about that the ascension of the adina hawks yeah because maybe because well no because
they were playing duluth east in the flashback with bombay but i wonder you know all those state
championships i wonder if they're they're beating the jets and the in the finalsback with Bombay. But I wonder, you know, all those state championships,
I wonder if they're beating the Jets in the finals for all those, you know?
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah.
So then the paragraph keeps going.
Facing off against the strongly favored Hawks
will be a completely unknown Ducks team.
They have been this year's miracle kids
after a dismal string of hammering defeats at the season's beginning.
Clearly, their fortunes turned
with the arrival of coach bombay who although a relative unknown in coaching sir coaching circles
brings a magic and then that's when it cuts off i'm assuming there's more after that that's when
oh that bombay magic the minnesota miracle Yeah. Jinx, buy me a Coke.
So I want to know, I need to know more about Division I.
Because the way they phrase it in this article is because they say
the Hawks record also included impressive wins over teams that ended up
in Division I or ended up as strong seeds in division one so i'm assuming
by that logic division one is tougher than division two or perceived to be tougher the only
thing that like there is just vast inconsistencies with like the league scheduling the playoff
formatting the states and like how that is actually baked out and
formatted with the different divisions it just there's not a lot of continuity with that and
throughout the movie like it's just i i feel like it maybe it was just when the movie came out there
wasn't a lot of like you know movie boards and stuff you know there was no such thing
it was just siskel and evert just being like and those old guys weren't paying attention to this
shit i can guarantee you well and then like in in their defense no outside of me nobody's fucking
screenshotting and blowing up these goddamn articles you know yeah i didn't even i didn't
even look at them other than just like i read read the, I read the, like the headline.
Yeah.
And then,
and then you move along like any,
like any normal person,
Brandon,
which is exactly how I viewed all these movies up until now.
You know,
like when I was a kid,
I was like,
you know,
this all makes perfect fucking sense.
I get it.
It's perfect.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is what happens when accountants come back and watch their childhood movies.
This is what happens when you teach kids critical thinking skills.
You come back, you just start poking holes in fucking everything.
Yeah.
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Here we are.
Not only are we at the grand finale of the movie,
but with the Cake Eaters podcast,
we are the grand finale coming up next week
of our breakdown of D1, The Mighty Ducks.
It's kind of a bittersweet moment.
I know we have a lot of other spinoffs coming,
but I'm feeling that nostalgia coming back of a kind of a bittersweet moment i know we have a lot of other spin-offs coming but you know i'm
feeling that that nostalgia coming back in a big way of like wow we get we get the championship
game against the hawks part five the final part of our of our recap of d1 here but but like you
said we got we we have some more after this we're going to do some deep dives. I have a feeling we're going to do a real deep dive into standings and
playoff brackets and how that all works.
We'll do some other deep dives into just other,
other scenarios that pop up.
And then hopefully we can get,
hopefully we can get an interview or two.
Yeah.
From the,
from the movie,
from some of the originals,
see how that works.
But yeah, we definitely uh and then and then once we finish with all the deep dives and everything we'll uh
of course we're going to do a golden cakey's for the first movie that's it that's a must
yep and then after that we'll delve into to d2 and d3 as well but so but don't forget before d2 and d3 we've got some excellent movies that the cast
has gone on to star in correct yeah we have up for the viewers and we're not gonna we're not gonna
break those down in the same meticulous way we'll probably do a more broad and general breakdown
just highlighting some of our favorite moments and some of the fun in those.
But we've got some great movies on the docket there, too. But man, you know, we've got we've
got the grand finale coming up with the battle for the Hawks, one of my favorite scenes of the
movie that I quoted about 100 times during our breakdown of the game changers that's coming in.
You know, we got some classic Riley versus versus bombay we got banks facing his old team
could you imagine that's one thing you know like thinking about like banks you know like his
mindset like not only did bombay do a shit job of introducing him making him feel alienated but like
now he's about to go face not only his old squad but his his friends in school like what like his friend his friend turmoil yes because
the ducks throughout this little the little montage of playoff games have not accepted him
as yeah we haven't got that embrace yet so he's about to go play his friends and you know like
this isn't this isn't lebron you know playing like like getting in everyone's head thinking
that they're all best friends and then he beats them forron, you know, playing like getting in everyone's head, thinking that they're all best friends,
and then he beats them for the championship.
You know, this is Banks as a youth, you know, facing his crew, his squad.
You know, there's got to be a lot of emotion going through up there.
Yep.
Even his dad.
Do you throw the game?
Does his dad tell him to throw the game?
Like, hey just just
fuck this one up
and I'll get you back on the Hawks I've already
talked it through with the board yep
they're gonna gerrymander the shit out of this
yeah let's just wait it out
wait it got enough cheddar I'll just give
them you know a couple grand and we
can do whatever the fuck we want
yeah we get a lot of questions still
that still need to be answered, Heath.
Yeah.
But we're looking forward to part five.
Part five is going to be minutes 81 through the end of the film.
It's going to be the final episode of D1.
Yeah.
We're going to go through the end.
We'll see who wins states and how all that shakes out.
Yeah.
Wow.
Look at us.
We started. Who would Wow. Look at us. We started.
Who would have thought?
Not me.
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