The Cake Eaters - 19. Emilio Estevez Leaves Game Changers

Episode Date: November 23, 2021

Heath & Brandon talk through their emotions and thoughts around Emilio Estevez not coming back for Game Changers Season 2. They discuss Emilio's reasoning for not coming back, how can the show recover from this, and then start throwing out ridiculous Season 2 theories.  Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

It's not worth winning if you can't win! This is an alert. Welcome to an emergency episode of the Cake Eaters podcast. Hello, hello, hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Cake Eaters podcast. My name is Brandon. I've got my co-host Heath with me here, and we have a emergency podcast. Well, I mean, it's not it's not super emergency. We waited like a week or so to make sure we had all the information going into this, but we're at a DEF CON one. DEF CON one. You heard the alerts. It is a real life emergency right now. I am beyond jazzed up. I have been mainlining coffee all morning to

prepare for this. On my excitement scale right now brandon to talk about this and discuss it on a scale of zero okay to coked out charlie sheen i am taylor swift winning her first music award that's how excited i am right now okay that scale makes zero sense at all but we'll go with it you know you you could you could learn a lesson from brandon's uh parenting scale of two to seven you know that's that's where it's at um but but i'm glad you said you're excited to talk about this because when you first said you were excited i was a little concerned i thought you were maybe excited about all of this happening which is i don't see how you could be this This is, this is the end of it all. Essentially.

This is a doomsday scenario for the game changers. I honestly don't know how we're going to sit through this and break it down in detail, but before we dive into this and before we get into our feelings, Brandon, let us know what in the world happened. Yeah. So for anybody that that's not paying attention to the game changers uh news cycle 24-hour news cycle here emilio has pulled out of season two emilio esaves has has declined to continue with season two as gordon bombay so and we're in the the producers and the writers and everything they're they're in the midst of

writing the script for season two as we speak right now and i just i don't know how they how they can continue i don't know how they write their way out of out of losing emilio honestly i'm right there with you i, so much of season one was based around Gilmore Girls Part 2 with Lauren Graham and Emilio Estevez and their weird love blossoming and then the random throwaway dad thing with Evan. And you ended the season with Bombay getting the duck's name back. And so now what, he's just going to give it away again? And the Ice Palace, right? This all centered around

the Ice Palace which he owns. I didn't even think about Winnie. What happens to Winnie? Is Winnie cut? Is your girl Winnie cut? She better not be. If if they if if they cut if m hayne gets cut from this this show i'm i'm throwing a fucking riot brandon is about to

riot out of this thing but yeah think about the end of season one brandon before we even talk about i think i think we i think now OK, before before we start talking wild theories. Yeah, let's go. Let's go to the main heart. So the so the headlines that came out and the reason for Emilio leaving the how recently they they implemented the their vaccine mandate but it's it's fairly new they didn't have the mandate in well because you know when they were filming season one there was no vaccine yet so they didn't have it then for season two they're establishing a vaccine mandate although their vaccine mandate that they're implementing is nowhere near as stringent as other production companies like i know netflix has a tougher uh a more stringent uh vaccine mandate than disney does they're disney's fairly low on how strict their their mandate is uh but that's what all the

headlines are saying although if you read a little bit deeper and you you you look at the statement that Emilio um released after all the headlines came out um I don't know how entirely true that those headlines are they're very misleading you know this is the big old elephant in the room in Disney's case it's the big old Dumbo in the room you know what I mean exactly you know I want to make this very clear before before sorry to cut you off but i want to make this very clear uh to to all of our listeners i uh like i am definitely not an anti-vax person at all i am personally vaccinated but i am a don't trust big corporations person and so don't disney is not your friend dis Disney has no actual basis for you to trust them at all. So I would not.

I'm on Bombay's side with all this, especially when you read a little bit into the articles and not just the headlines. Yeah, absolutely. And that's what I was going to say. Like, I'm not qualified. I got vaccinated. But like with all the other stuff,

you just got to let people do their thing. And you know what? We'll just move right on because the people get enough of this in their newsreel with with my boy aaron rogers yeah we don't a the covid qb you know oh yeah aaron rogers and his uh yeah yeah yeah people people you get it you get enough information from people that are hopefully slightly more qualified than me and he. Me and Heath are definitely not qualified. So we can brush past this. I do want to talk about the difference between the headlines and then kind of what

actually is said in the articles. Because the headlines make it out to be that... If you just read the headlines, you'd be like, oh, Emilio's anti-vax. And they were making him get the vaccine and he didn't want to, so that's why he's paling out. But I think that these headlines, for lack of a better term,

are a bit of a hatchet job by Disney kind of pushing their narrative. Because if you look into some of the articles and the Roy stuff is written, like the Deadline article was the first one that came out that kind of broke the news and their uh first paragraph um not their first paragraph but one of the paragraphs it says according to sources estevez through his reps so again we're you know through reps we're getting hearsay he said she said stuff already right off the bat um it said he declined to provide assurances that he would comply with the policy now i don't know about you but that

sounds like the most vague bullshit thing you could ever say he declined to provide assurances that he would comply that that's you know he's trying to say everything they're trying to, they're trying to, to, to tell you he's, he's anti-vax without actually saying it because then they could be, you know, sued for libel or slander or whatever, whichever one it is. Yeah. I am totally with you here, Brandon. When you read through these articles, when push comes to shove and you read through the noise, the fake

noise, you see it's creative differences. And that is not a super big surprise to me because we talked about it a thousand times in the previous show. We literally have a golden cakey category because of the missed opportunities that they had in the first season. So I think when we really unpack a lot of the meat in these articles, we see that Bombay probably just flat out did not like the script and did not like where things were headed. Maybe it was more of weirdilmore weird gilmore girls between him and uh and alex for season two and no one wanted to see that yeah i would be i mean because so if you think of the way i was thinking about it emilio kind of pulled away from the the limelight right he pulled away from main uh what like like mainstream movies that's what he pulled away from mainstream

movies with d3 d3 was kind of the last mainstream movie he did after that he pulled back and he started doing indie films and he started uh directing and producing and writing instead of you know doing a whole bunch of acting he didn't really come back into the mainstream until game changers game changers essentially is what brought him back in and so my thinking was and i don't know about you but i was shocked at how center focused bombay was in season one i didn't think they were going to make him the main character which they i mean he i don't know if he was the main character but he him and alex got a bulk of the storylines, especially the first half. The first half of the season is just Alex and Bombay.

And so my thing was I think that – I think season two, again, he – before he pulled out, because now I have to rewrite it. But I think the stuff that he saw, Bombay was probably another central focus of the storylines. And he was like, I don't need to be the main character. I shouldn't be the main character. We should be doing something else with this. And then, yes, I am fully on board with creative differences being the main driving factor. And then Disney using the whole vaccine thing as a hatchet job to kind of make him be the bad guy in all this. Because if you're Disney and you lose Emilio over creative differences,

that's the dumbest thing. You're an idiot. That's the nail in this show's coffin. Especially with how you handled season one and ended season one because now there's no how do you bombay is the coach he has the duck's name back he kind of rose back from power you know he had his phoenix story yeah the how do you Brandon the entire show centers around the ice palace so how do you write how do you because do you, because he's not filming any scenes for season two.

So you can't wrap up his story with him involved. You have to do it through hearsay and he said, she said stuff. It's going to be incredibly hard to write their way out of this. They have their work cut out for them because if this is handled incorrectly, it could just start the whole series off with like a really bad taste in your mouth.

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How else do you explain that? He, he left. There is no other way. There's a good way. Yeah. Maybe they, maybe they turn him back into a degenerate.

And so you think that, wow. But they would have, it would have to be like stuff that, that they can't show on screen. Like you'd have to just be like, oh yeah, he's a degenerate again. You you can't because he's not feeling you can't show him becoming a degenerate it would have to be just a quick throwaway line although with uh with killing him off with the ice palace crumbling on top of him honestly ridiculous but not a terrible idea

especially if you do like the uh the wizard of oz thing where it crumbles and then you show the shot if it's just like his feet underneath like shoes you just see shoes sticking out of the rubble caught up in the zamboni that he was that he was riding on i hope they don't i hope they don't kill him off. But honestly, I mean, how do you... I don't know how you write... Yeah, I don't know how you write him off any other way. Well, they have to do it. That's believable. That's believable.

They have to do it in some kind of nice way, right? Because it's a Disney Plus kids TV show. But I feel like there could be space to maybe get him like addicted to meth and he is in recovery and that's why so listen so hear me i i spell is crumbling and addicted you're really going going all out with i'm going all like these are these are some great fan theories right and maybe if it was on hbo max instead of disney plus these could survive, right? But this is what happened because you can tell the story without him being there, okay? So one of the kids, their mom is a counselor and Evan's mom starts lawyering up and she's a full-time lawyer again.

And so the kids hear through their parents that Bombay fell on hard times, maybe got a little addicted to meth, maybe gotten a little bit of trouble during that meth addiction. And that's where Alex comes into his defense and his, his attorney. And then he ends up going to, no, he ends up going to a, you know, like an eight year recovery center because the dude's just been crushing. That's like a year, like this is a year after um they won and they just one year later how the mighty have fallen bombay addicted to meth so you're gonna so you're gonna skip ahead and see that's i guess that's that's another thing they could do is they could time jump um okay sorry thank you for pandering to my insane fan theory. As I mentioned before, I've been drinking way too much coffee today.

I mean, they're insane, but I mean, like, you know, why not? You got to do something. You can't just, you have to acknowledge it in some way. You can't just have him. And then you think, okay, who's going to be coach? Is it Alex again? That's not going to work. You know what you could do, honestly, in like with the story of the don't bothers, it goes viral again on the news. And then Bombay gets another shot at coaching college hockey. And then they just plug him into school in the northeast right like one of the

massachusetts or schools or something like that you know what i mean like that's it that's an easy out for them to just kind of quickly and easily write him off through the players in in you know what i mean like that's something that you can do without causing too much of a stir and then yeah you're collecting back into like who they replace him with because they're gonna have to replace him with like a star right to like bring some kind of mainstream attention to it i guess i mean you don't necessarily have to so if we think back to d3 because i mean uh similar issues with d3 because he was he he didn't want to be a part of d3 but he did film a bunch of scenes for D3.

So you had him in there. He could provide some exposition on where he was going, why he was going, all that kind of stuff. We don't have that luxury this time, but you could do a similar thing that you did with D3. You could send him, you know, he got another college job. He's off in the Northeast. You could say, oh, he got, maybe the,

the Goodwill games hired him again. Like when he left for D3. Something like that. To where, like, he got so much buzz from the Don't Bothers that he's back on top of the hockey world. Yeah. The Reclamation Project is complete, so we can move on. Yes. there kind of i mean i guess you don't really you don't really need him there per se because his bond with evan is not as tight as it was with the with the the original ducks so you you're not

you don't feel as heartbroken if he just he just straight up left you know it wouldn't be as terrible as if he did that in d3 um you could always go the paul walker route and just get somebody that's like the similar frame just cgi em Emilio's face on him for a scene or two, you know, there's no way Emilio signs off on that. Would you need him? Heartbroken man. Like how do we do this without Gordon Bombay?

I mean, you can, we, you can do it without Gordon Bombay D three. You did it without Gordon Bombay. Pretty much. You just, the way season one ended, you wrote yourself into a corner. Yeah.

Where you need Bombay at least for an episode to wrap it up. So, yeah. But I think like what you said where he gets a bunch of hockey buzz from the don't's, he's on top of the world that he's coaching somewhere else. I think that's, that's probably the cleanest way to do it. And you could do that with like, just Evan or Alex mentioning, you know,

like a, just a quick scene of them mentioning that. And then, and then boom, you move on and then you've got to find somebody else, right? You can't, you can't leave Alex as the coach.

You can't as the full, the, you know, she can't be doing that. No. This is where we finally get Wolf the dentist stance in Brandon. I was going to say, so there's a couple of ways. There's a couple of things you could do to replace his coach.

You could A. So the first one I was going to say is you could bring back. You can bring somebody back. You can bring an established character back. I don't know if wolf the dead is dancing is the answer but you could do something like that you could do i mean i don't you could do banks i don't i don't know banks banks i feel like it's like a half measure though i think if you're gonna bring an original duck back to coach it number one it's gonna be charlie but charlie i don't think joshua jackson like amelia i don't think joshua jackson is interested in being the main character of this

show i don't i think he's he's he's mentioned that he's down to be like a cameo and kind of show up every once in a while but i don't think he wants to be the focal point of this no um as he you know i i with all the original ducks, I think the point of this show is to do it for a new generation. You want new people. So you could bring somebody back like Wolf the Dentist, Charlie. I think if you're going to go original ducks, it's got to be Charlie. You could maybe do Fulton. Yeah, because he's a local townie, you know, working the construction crews.

Fulton would be better than Banks, in my opinion. But, yes, you can bring back an original junkie. You can bring back another character. Guy's a stay-at-home dad. Yeah, he's got three kids he's taking care of, though, you know? Yeah, but they're probably school-aged.

They're probably school-aged. I think they said they were toddlers, right? I don't know. I think they said they were toddlers, right? I don't know. I forget. Okay. Right off D. I mean, I would love – because I'm a Gi apologist here. I would love for Gi to be more involved in the show.

But I don't think – they just don't have the connection to Bombay that Conway and Fulton had. So I don't think bringing them back as a coach would hit as well. You know? Yeah. I think it's got to be either Fulton or Conway. Outside of that, you could bring back, I mean, another character. You could go – I mean, I wouldn't go Wolf the Dentist.

Maybe Coach Orion. I don't know. I don't think you would want to do that again, though. Or so that's the first option is you bring back a former original Ducks character. Okay. Option two, I'm thinking, is Coach T. You expedite a Coach T, like, revival storyline. You expedite that so he turns from good guy to bad guy.

And I think you could do that real quick, real easy. Cause they're shooting letter Kenny now. And so you would think that there maybe wouldn't be interference. Yeah. And I would imagine he, I would imagine coach T's back for season two. If,

if may, I would imagine they probably were going gonna have him at least be in one or two episodes before this happened yeah um but so yeah you could expedite a coach t revival story i think that would be a good option because i don't play fair is fantastic he killed it as the bad guy coach t and i think he would do wonderful with like the you know turning into the good guy yeah um so i think you can do that or three you go out and you get a big name to come in i don't know how you i mean you you you can get real creative with you know who that character is and how they you know like with you could do the thing with like coach orion where it's like a it's an old hockey buddy of bombay's

and you know fucking you know bill murray shows up but bill murray's new coach he's just an old old old hockey buddy of bombay that would be fun i feel like i'm trying to think of like who the actors are that would be in this like age group with emilio that we would want to kind of like choose from i'm just totally you you wouldn't have to go his age group you could because he has the coaching the the college coaching experience okay um you could say it was a former player you could you you could what you could do to kind of wrap it all up in a nice little bow is it's the player that got him fired in the first place and then you have somebody you have somebody in like in the the same og ducks age group you know like and granted i'm just throwing names out here like there's no basis for any of these names so

don't take these with any grain of salt but like a jake jake jillenhall yeah you get jake jillenhall and you just say he this is the he's the original player that that bombay gave the tape to and got fired for yeah that's something like that who knows what about machine gun kelly no why i'm way off the rails i'm way off the rails kelly no i'm trying to see what's that making appearance as coaches that is the tricky part, though. If you're going to go big name, like, I don't even know. Vin Diesel? That'd be a fun one. The Rock, bro? Oh, don't even tempt me

with our boy Dwayne Johnson. Because he's been doing something. He did Jungle Cruise. I think Jungle Cruise is out on Disney+. Oh, yeah. Either this week or next. He's a Disney staple. That Tooth Fairy.

He's played coaches before. He was the coach of Gridiron Gang, right? Game Plan, right? No, Game Plan, he was a player. He was a player with the little girl and then Gridiron Gang. He was the coach of the high school football team. I mean, okay.

The Rock would be a badass hockey coach okay that's the move right there oh fucking rock dude disney give the rock the call up jabronis get your rudy poo or handy asses off the ground or what's uh what what's our boy mc gainey doing lewis i don't know lewis back you think come on has the energy for that what if he breaks What's our boy MC Ganey doing? Louis? Bring Louis back? You think Louis has the energy for that? What if he breaks a hip slipping on the ice? He just don't walk on the ice, Louis. Stay on the bench. Someone just always has a mat out there for him.

If you're going to do this, do it right, Disney. Get the rock, you know? Yeah, that's where it absolutely needs to go. But, like, they're not going to get, like, a super A-list celebrity. I feel like it's going to be, like, a B-plus celebrity if they do a replacement. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be real interesting.

I just can't imagine any of this working you know yeah not to be not to be a debbie downer but i just i any any expectations i had for season two gone shattered done so yeah i am absolutely nervous about the amount of time that we're gonna have to spend on breaking down what might not be a very good show no and and you know what but we are gonna do it because we love the ducks and if we have to we will just rant and rave until we are put on the writing team and all of the spectacular suggestions come to fruition. Or we move it into the HBO, HBO max realm.

And we start going with some of the, the Heath rated our suggestions and then game changes gets real fucking spicy. I'm telling you, they need to expand the Mighty Ducks universe. If they're not going to bring us in for game changers, they need to bring us in for our spinoffs. Oh, yeah.

The Riley Origin story. That would be epic. The Winnie show, you know? And then we got to, oh, you know what this. Oh, great idea here. Great idea. Okay. Here we go.

Great idea. Going back to. Saddle up. Going back to the friend of the program, Mark Chavez, okay, who plays Terry. He mentioned that Leah was always – Leah who plays MJ, Leah Franklin. Shout out, Leah. He mentioned that she would always pitch like crazy season two ideas, one of which was the Terry show where Terry gets his own spinoff.

So let's combine that with Emilio leaving. Terry becomes head coach. Oh my goodness. From the booth to the bench. You heard it here first. And then we get our boy Terry, the new coach. And then MJ joins the team wow boom we'd have to find another podcast host but we can do that that's all right that's all

right podcast hosts are a dime a dozen exactly well we'll put up we'll put us in the show as the podcast hosts boom oh there we go just just a couple regular dudes where where is our goddamn writing check where's our goddamn writing check disney oh man i just i don't know what they're thinking you know they you know they you know we're on their radar brandon i would hope so i would hope so with all would hope so. With all these beautiful ideas. Yeah, all these beautiful ideas. We talk shit about them constantly, but, you know, that's what you get, Disney. You know?

And now look what you did. Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, Disney. That's right. There's a fire up in here. I think that's the move, though. All jokes aside, I think the Terry show is the move Terry comes in

And then Do you think that Is Terry a single dad? What if Terry is a single dad and then him and Alex Get together Possible There's some awkwardness between Alex and MJ And Nick

Or Evan and MJ and Nick That or Evan and MJ and Nick. That's true, because Evan and MJ did, they shared a romantic dance at States. Then you get the whole, like, Luke Leia, like, we're brothers and sisters, but we kind of, you know, we almost kissed. A lot of

stuff to unpack there. I'm sure Disney Plus is going to go there, Brandon. Maybe. I don't know. That's the move, though. The Terry show. That's the fucking move, Disney. That's the move. I do have to say that we have to also give Emilio props. He ended his press statement with

ducks fly together. You know? And so when the roosters are crying and the cows are turning circles in the pasture, Brandon, ducks fly together. I highly recommend anybody that has

just read headlines and not read Emilio's statement to go read Emilio's statement. It provides a whole lot of context and it provides context that, that lets you know that the, him not wanting to take the vaccine may have played a small part in this, but the, the huge chunk of the reason he left is because it was creative differences. I think he looked at the script and he was like i'm not going to put myself through a vaccine through all the all this extra

work for a show that i am not 100 behind yeah so he had the virus the vaccine can sometimes make those that have already had the virus super sick. And so he was nervous about getting that sick again. And then you couple that with what he quote unquote calls a myriad of creative differences. And then once again, direct quote, any other narrative is false. And so that kind of paints a little bit of the picture right it's like the combination in his mind he's like all right fuck this i'm out and he can't blame him and he also says to the fans of the franchise i am as disappointed as you are so he's right there with us i definitely don't think he wanted to leave um because i mean if he if he didn't want to be why come back at all if he

didn't want to be a part of it like to to to leave now is is a weird timing and leads me to believe that it's it's it's got to be because he just didn't like where they were taking the character of bombay yeah you know because there's an article um collider.com there's an article where they interview him and he's talking about um coming back to to do to act in tv shows from you know being being in the indie scene any movie scene for so long yeah and one of the things he talks about is how tv filming is real weird because you don't like with movies you get the whole script right up front and you're like you know where your character is going with with tv shows you get your script um episode by episode yeah um so you you get the script for episode one you

film episode one then you do two and so you're in the middle of the show and you don't know where your character is going and he mentions how that was really, really hard to get used to. And then couple that with not trusting the people that are, you know, writing you to do it how you kind of want is, you know, and, and like I said, he was doing indie movies and he was, he was producing, he was directing, he was like, he was actually doing camera work as well for a lot of these indie movies. He's used to being in more control. Maybe he didn't have as much control over the character as he wanted in Game Changers.

I feel like that probably led to a little bit of it too. hard to go from a, like a contractor and doing contract work where you are your own boss to then transitioning back into more of like a corporate environment where every move feels like you're micromanaged. That's a difficult transition for a ton of people. And I feel like it's the exact same thing here with Amelia. Absolutely. So yeah, there you go and i mean i i don't know i what else do you have for this brandon because i outside of just the absolute shock when you text me that emilio was out i was like son of a bitch is it gonna be like what is going on like what are we gonna have to break down here although to be, if it turns out to be kind of a dumpster fire, we might be able to

get some really fucking good content out of this halfway. If it's going to be bad, I hope it's real bad. Yeah. Like really digs in and makes an epic, you know, Rotten Tomatoes kind of leaves an epic

mark on the world that way yes yeah although i don't hope that for all the actors in it because we love those guys but you know yeah yeah yeah i i thoroughly enjoyed season one i'm glad emilio came back um if just for season one it wasn't you know uh you know it's not a show that's going to win any emmys but it for for what it was supposed to do it was a good solid show and yeah there's the nostalgia factor alone seeing Emilio all the ducks and then all the

kid actors were fantastic every single one of them crushed it especially Nick Nick was the highlight of the show yeah oh man that guy just absolutely hit it out of the park and then tube singing a little bit more tube singing you know keep throwing that in for for me yeah and so i am excited i'm still

excited for season two because now hopefully because i mean during season one me and you kept begging for them to focus on the kids leave bombay and alex kind of to the wayside and start focusing on those kids hopefully this forces them to do that. Now we can get some nice character development from these kiddos, really build this out. It can be like Saved by the Bell meets

Mighty Ducks, and that's a fucking show I'd watch. There we go. Focus on the kids. That's what we're important to do. Make Terry the coach. Focus on the kids that's that's what we're important to do make terry the coach focus on the kids yeah yeah i'm just gonna use a whole bunch of accounting analogies to coach and then you know cut scene to me and you up in the the podcast news great boy the the ducks attack looks as balanced as our sheet here.

It's delightful. Look at that bottom line. The company's all in the black. No red on this QuickBooks doc. Okay, that's enough. Am I just hurting your soul because i was just throwing random accounting words out in no particular order you i mean you you got them all right you didn't say anything that was that didn't make any sense there's not that's the the one of the downsides

about accounting though is there's not a lot of good pun work you know you know it's true you know it's it's just not it's not where it should be for as as dull of a job you should be able to you should have more fun with the puns you know but it's just not there I think that we can all agree that the most legendary

accountant is the character Ben from Parks and Rec yeah yeah so there was there were a couple good puns in that one you know i don't remember i'm off the top of my oh yeah calculator that's that was a good one my favorite was how excited the boss guy was oh dude he fucking loves you man he did such a good job of portraying that role and then the other guy that they hired when he originally turned it down that hated him. You know?

Yeah. And he'd always start screaming at people to come in to the room for Ben to say the joke again. Yeah. I got to go get Larry. I got to go get Larry. Larry, Larry, you got to hear this. He did it again. Oh, man. That's good stuff.

Alright. Well, I suppose we can probably kind of wrap this emergency. I've gone way off the rails all day today, so I apologize to the listeners for that. Sad to see Emilio go. We wish him the best. Just as disappointed as he is that

that it that it didn't work out um but uh you know hopefully game change hopefully season two they focus on the kids it'll be fine you know just trying to keep the hopes up but Emilio love Emilio wish him all the best ducks fly Yeah, we love Emilio. I just hope that season two can unbreak my heart. It can uncry these tears that I've cried for so many nights, Brandon, for Emilio leaving this show. It could be a tragedy, but we are going to glass half full this son of a gun. And we're going to wish Emilio the best and and you know to stay healthy out there and then we're going to hope beyond all hope that season two brings the heat yes either it needs to bring the heat or it needs to be just utter garbage one of

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