The Cake Eaters - 23. Heavyweights (Steven Brill & Aaron Schwartz)

Episode Date: January 18, 2022

Heath & Brandon discuss how amazingly talented Bill Stiller is, the best Gatorade flavors, the curse of the New York Islanders, all the summer camp tropes, what could have been with a Mighty Ducks Cinematic Universe, and then break down the rest of the Heavyweights movie. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

It's not worth winning if you can't win! Welcome everybody to the Cake Eaters podcast again. We have a very special episode for you guys as part of our deep dive into D1. We're tackling another movie that came out right after, I believe it came out in between D1 and D2 if I'm not mistaken. I have to check the math there. But it is written and directed by none other than Stephen Brill, the man who wrote and directed D1. So we're keeping it in the family for this one, Heath, and it's a classic. 1995 classic.

Hi. Hi. Hi, Brandon. My word. The heavyweights. Actually, I think it's just heavy, heavyweights. I don't think there's a the, but we'll call it the heavyweights. Actually, I think it's just heavyweights. I don't think there's a the, but we'll call it the heavyweights just to be promo.

The heavyweights with an amazing cover with the four kids holding up the guy in the sandwich. And I don't know who the guy in the sandwich is. I was trying to figure it out earlier this morning and I could not. What a cover. I don't know who the guy in the sandwich is. I was trying to figure it out earlier this morning, and I could not.

But what a cover. I didn't even realize there was a guy in the sandwich. I just thought it was a sandwich. Oh, that's Lars. That's Lars. Oh, is that Lars? Okay. I couldn't tell that that was Lars.

But, yeah, I didn't even realize Lars was in the sandwich. I just figured it was a sandwich. But, yeah, you got Lars in there. And, yes, Heavyweights 1995 Written and directed by Steven Brill of Mighty Ducks fame And then it also features A nice ensemble cast Including some ducks

Some D1 ducks as well as some future ducks And crucial Members of the cast At that, like these are Main figureheads in this Heavyweight cast crucial members of the cast at that. These are main figure heads in this heavyweight cast. And so, you know, we can kick it off with

Karp coming in hot as playing Jerry. Aaron Schwartz, his famous portrayal as Karp, he turns that into this portrayal in heavyweights where he plays Gerald Jerry Garner. And as carp he turns that into this portrayal and heavyweights where he plays gerald jerry garner and main character has top top billing top billing and he's grown up to really shed the

heavy weight because oh yeah he played like a body double for kurt russell right for the guardians of the galaxy too yeah if if you haven't seen a current or recent picture of Aaron Schwartz, he's looking swole. He looks great. He is no longer... Real yoked. Yeah, no longer a heavyweight. And a real leader of the heavyweights

at camp, I feel like. He really stepped into a leadership world, really grew into it throughout the movie yeah definitely throughout the movie yeah because he starts off kind of fading into the background and uh following the lead of of uh roy who is played by none other than the famous keenan thompson who's a future duck that we'll come across in d2 once we tackle that yes and i love roy's uh quick little airplane interaction with jerry where he like cons him into admitting he's in fat camp he's like and that's your dad too why because he's fat he's like why do you think i'm going to fat camp because you're fat okay just

there's just so many things it's just screams mid-90s That people would never tolerate now Just kids yelling at each other They're fat and stuff It was just It absolutely cracked me up That quick little plane interaction That those two had And then he's like, yeah, okay Yeah, I'm going to fat camp

And he's like, that's your dad too, isn't it, man? Hell no No! When they came to the plane he was like pushing him off But anyways that was One of my favorite And when he breaks Lars' camera

We'll talk about The weigh-ins later But man when he bends over And breaks that camera it's really great So in addition to Kenan as roy we also have uh sean weiss the famous goldberg who plays yeah who plays josh uh burnbaum i think yeah josh burnbaum that's his last name his character's last name who's kind of the the the old grizzled

veteran yeah at the camp he's everybody that goes to him for the, for the advice and the, you know, the run around. He's he, he shaves. Right. And that's a big deal. He had no, no business shaving first, first guy to shave. And there, you know, he gave the nicknames too. Right. Introducing Jerry is captain. Did they keep calling him captain? I wish they, I wish they would have. I wish they would have too, but they definitely, right introducing Jerry as captain did they keep calling him captain I didn't I wish they would have I wish they would have too

but they definitely I'm pretty sure they started doing just calling him Jerry yeah but sorry and then lastly when Ben Stiller does the sit up fart with Goldberg that's just classic Goldberg you know always with the fart jokes right like

you know he's got the limousine fart joke. He's got in D2 when they're all stuck together. So many fart jokes in this movie. So fucking many. It was just made for, like, mid 90s adolescence.

Oh, yeah. This movie does not hold up to modern times. It does not hold up to modern times Does not But it's still a good watch I loved everything about it And like we said There's already three really big appearances

In like three main characters of the camp That really held it down And three awesome ducks You know Karp is more of a leader And grows into a leader of this show whereas in the you know the ducks he was a little more yeah i wonder i wonder why considering he's the main character in this this other steven brill movie i wonder why he didn't come back for d2 it

must have been must have been some sort of scheduling or something i don't know i don't know why he never came back i thought the same thing or maybe they just never had Karp be good enough to make it to like junior nationals. Maybe they just didn't think that would stand up. But I mean, maybe I'm trying to think.

Did they bring any terrible? I don't think so because like Peter and Karp both got cut Yeah Peter and Carp are gone And then the figure skating brother Tommy and Tammy are gone Jesse's little brother is gone Maybe that was it

Maybe they were just like Let's just only bring the people that we actually showed Playing hockey So Carp you're gone But he got this He got this role as a nice consolation And this movie is great From beginning to end

I haven't watched this movie in a little bit of time It's been like five years Since I've seen it I may have watched it Right at the very beginning of the pandemic I maybe watched it Right at the very beginning Of the pandemic I maybe watched it then But it was still a great rewatch

I forgot about the whole beginning Of the movie and we'll talk about it in a second Yeah Like I said it does not Joke wise Fat shaming wise There's a couple eating disorder jokes in here that don't hold up there's

a lot of fart jokes that are not the most mature it doesn't exactly translate well into a 2022 world I had to catch myself 2022 Heath but it is still a great movie and it's fucking hilarious

especially I mean Ben Stiller makes this movie without Ben Stiller it's probably a great movie, and it's fucking hilarious, especially, I mean, Ben Stiller makes this movie. Without Ben Stiller, it's probably a flop, but he fucking, he crushes it. Yeah, he knocks it out of the park. And also, fans, if you want to check this movie out, you should check this movie out. Go pull up Disney+. It's on there. On Disney+. Well, for free, if you have Disney+. And if you don't have Disney+, Well for free if you have Disney Plus

And if you don't have Disney Plus What are you doing? They got the Hulu Disney Plus bundle That's clutch It's Hulu, ESPN and It's the best bundle in the game Exactly Because now they're playing hockey

On ESPN Plus and Hulu Right? So I already have the Disneyney espn and hulu bundle uh and then for last season when in the nhl wasn't on espn i i also had a separate in it specifically nhl game pass or whatever it is where you can watch every game oh nice so so when they switched over to espn that was a blessing Saved me $120 a year Oh there you go You can still catch some Avalanche games too Who have been on a nice little

They've won nine in a row And they just They were playing This will date when we recorded the podcast But they played Toronto Last night Were down 4-1 And then came back and won it 5-4

In overtime The boys are buzzing out there Hey Look out folks There's an avalanche coming through the NHL right now This is where I would do Like an avalanche warning horn If we had any kind of production value

And sound effects. You have some heat sound effects there, Brandon. You're welcome. Wait, where were we at? So we were just going through all the ducks that are in the movie. Yes. As I mentioned before, Stephen Brill, who wrote and directed The Mighty Ducks also wrote and directed this

Guess who his co-writer was Can you get a venture guess here Just because I saw it So I do know It is none other than Judd Apatow Yes Judd Apatow which is how you get the Ben Stiller Connection

Yeah Judd is there a greater Comedy duo than Judd Apatow and Ben Stiller? I'd be hard-pressed to find anything. They've hit some home runs. They've come up with some great stuff. Yes, especially the Ben Stiller show. For all those early 90s sketch comedy fans, Ben Stiller's show Was a classic

I'm sure you can watch I'm sure there's at least clips If not full episodes on YouTube I'm sure of it Go look it up it's hilarious It's fantastic Ben Stiller fucking crushed it There's one scene There's one sketch they do About

Bruce Springsteen It's like Bruce Springsteen teaching you how to count oh yes i love that yeah and it's because if you ever listen to to bruce springsteen songs when he like counts into the song he'll do like one two three but he says it unintelligibly he goes out one two three and so ben stiller does a skit where he counts to like 50 doing that As Bruce Springsteen I love that because The Bruce Springsteen

Christmas song that he has It's really popular I really enjoyed jamming that out And trying to impersonate the boss Yeah Okay But yeah so those are the Mighty Ducks connections you got Karp You got Keenan Thompson

Sean Weiss Is Goldberg and then Stephen Brill of course So that's why Keenan Thompson is in the height Of all that Fame right now too Oh man like it's Going on right now for him

Like this is some good stuff. Remember the French dude in the bathtub from all that? That character that he played? Oh, man. I forget his name, but anyways. Yeah, this is prime Keenan because it's just after he started on all that, I believe. You have this.

This rolls into D2, and then D2 rolls into Kenan and Kel, which is a classic. Kenan and Kel is absolutely great. I think that Paramount Plus is where all that content lives right now, if I'm remembering correctly. That's where, yeah, because they own Nickelodeon. So, yeah, all that and Kenan and Kel, that'll be on there. That's a bummer. That's just one thing.

That's just one too many. Yeah. Can't do it. I have Paramount Plus. I have a subscription. I'll give you the password for it, Heath. Oh, sweet. And then I'll, maybe we shouldn't say that out loud,

but I'll hit you with Peacock, and you can lament with how terrible They've done with the WWE Network I got Peacocked I'm already mooching off of somebody from Peacock Alright so anyways Okay so let's get into the movie here Heavyweights 1995 classic

So the Quick synopsis of the movie here So you have Jerry Gerald Garner who's 11 years old, lives in Long Island, New York. He's a tad overweight. I think they mentioned he's 140 pounds at 11 years old. He's not the fattest kid on the block. He's definitely not the fattest kid at camp. But he's a little overweight, and his parents are in dire need of him to lose some weight.

So Jerry's parents, Maury, who's played by is it Jeffrey Tambor? Is that who plays Maury? I think it's Jeffrey Tambor. Sure. From like Arrested Development. Yeah, the dad from Arrested Development. So Maury and then Mrs. Garner decide to send Jerry to Camp Hope, which is

a camp for overweight boys. The camp is previously keyword there, previously owned by Harvey Bushkin, who's played by Jerry Stiller, Ben Stiller's dad. Love that. And his equally kind wife, Alice Bushkin,

who's played by Ben Stiller's mom, Ann. That's a fun wrinkle, that it's his real parents. Yeah, I forget her last name, but it's Ann something. You'd know her if you saw her. She's a very famous actress.

Yeah. So when the Bushkins, so Jerry gets sent to camp, hands him her last name, but it's Anne something. You know her if you saw her. She's a very famous actress. So when the Bushkins – so Jerry gets sent to camp. He ends up going to camp. When he gets there, he finds out that the Bushkins have filed for bankruptcy, and the camp has to be sold. And it's bought by crazy psychotic ex – or not ex, crazy psychotic wannabe fitness instructor Tony Perkis Tony plans his grand plan for this camp is to force the campers to lose as much weight as humanly possible and then turn that into a documentary

a documentary that he can then sell infomercials wise to promote his weight loss system the Perkis system Perkis size baby okay so then the campers are having a terrible time uh because tony has made camp hope a living hell for them he's cutting off food he's making him work out crazy uh and he's just a psychopath maniac uh

so then jerry uh along with the all the other at the camp and some of the counselors, hatch a plan to take over the camp. So they overthrow Tony and some crazy nonsense shenanigans. And then they essentially have their way with the camp. They throw parties or eat a bunch of food. Then they realize because we can't live like this, we actually are really fat and we need to lose weight um so then they kind of have a turnaround quarter meanwhile while they're having this turnaround corner tony is still locked he's locked in a cage when they overthrew him so they overthrow tony they do all this and then um tony breaks out um he has a psychotic breakdown gets arrested and then they decide to keep the camp going because they need to finish the famous and racist Apache Relay race at the end of the movie where they race Camp MVP, which is the arch-rival camp that's across the lake.

So that's the synopsis. There's our breakdown, Heath. Let's dive into it. Before we dive into it, let me first hit you with my favorite tagline for the movie. They never met a hot dog they didn't like. Until now. Can you imagine? In the movie theaters, what's out in 1994

You know like whatever movie You're going to in 1994 Is it Alien or something like that Whatever Alien I think was earlier than that Maybe Aliens There we go and all of a sudden The preview pops up for Heavyweights

And you're munching on your popcorn And your raisinets and you just hear They never met a hot dog they didn't like until now and then a big sandwich comes on there with a whole bunch of fat kids holding yeah that should have been a it should have been a hot dog on the on the poster if they're gonna call it out maybe it's like a chicago dog which i personally don't like because so the pickles on it so the tagline that's on the poster is they don't run the fastest they don't jump the highest but they sure are getting the last laugh oh nice okay that's not bad that's not as good as the tagline that they had on imdb i just don't get what i don't get i don't get the i don't get

what they're referencing with the hot dog thing. Does that... Is it because they rehabbed themselves and now they're trying to eat healthier? Or is it... I just don't know where they're going with that. Why don't they like hot dogs anymore? My thinking is like, normally

they love crushing some dogs, but because Tony Perkins is kind of a hot dog, they don't like it anymore. Tony's the hot dog. He ruined all the hot dogs for him. I get it. It's like when I worked at the minor league

baseball team and I ate a whole bunch of leftover hot dogs for an entire summer. It took me two years to eat a hot dog again. Very similar. You can to eat a hot dog again. Very similar. You can't eat leftover hot dogs. You gotta get those babies fresh. You just eat the ones that have been

the day old. If you're gonna eat a hot dog, it needs to be fresh off the grill or the roller or whatever they use at a minor league stadium. Right now, we're getting paid like $400, $500 a month. We needed free hot dogs.

Yeah, but steal the fresh ones. Don't steal the day-old ones. We got them for free. We didn't steal them. We got them for free. Well, you should have stole some food. I steal food all the time. Day-old pizza, too.

It's just differing personalities. There's not a job I've ever had where I didn't steal food. Not a single one. That's why we don't have nice things. And that's why Sandra put me in charge of tacos. Oh, I would have been, I would have stole so much food at tacos and more. I've been crushing tacos left and right, man.

All right. All right man all right all right all right so let's jump into some of our favorite parts of the movie we're just going to jump into a few highlights real quick for you so so let's let's wait we i have quite a few highlights not not not some highlights there are quite a few so the one let's start off with is this opening scene because it's fantastic it's's fantastic I call it pre-camp I call it the pre-camp scenes It's a classic 90s It opens on a classic 90s end of summer Scene right where the bell rings

Everybody's throwing everything They're running out of the hall No one does that No one can tell me That they actually did that At the end of the year in school Like that would not Everyone would be in trouble No one can tell me that they actually did that at the end of the year in school. Like that would not like the prince.

Everyone would be in trouble and suspended in summer school and have to clean that shit up. School's over. They can't suspend me now. Oh, no way. Oh, my God. That would have never flown in Wayne, America. What's that bell rings? It's the fucking Wild West out here. You had no authority over me, sir.

So you had hooligan shithead kids just throwing stuff all over the place? No, nobody ever threw. There was occasionally one kid who would throw a notebook, but nobody's like chairs and shit, you know?

Okay, good. All right, so keep going. I was just like, you know, they do this all the time And that shit never happens Oh, it's in every single movie Yeah, but it never happens He's leaving school The kid that he's with has the mean people

Suck shirt on Do you notice that? I didn't notice that I was like, like yeah that's good Yeah so They're walking out The kid says something mean to him I think Doesn't he

They just talk about how they're not going to do Anything for the summer Just doing nothing over the summer Just a lot of sloth If you're looking at the seven deadly sins A lot of sloth over the summer just gonna be you know just a lot of sloth you know if you're looking at the seven deadly sins a lot of sloth over the summer there that's a sloth but then but then they look up and his buddy is like hey jerry isn't that your bus which happened so quick the bell literally just rang that bus was out of there man it is it is not appropriate to just take off

without a kid. Somehow all the other kids were on the bus though. Somehow they all made it. And so I loved this part as he's running past it. The fact that the kids in the back of the bus didn't say anything to the bus driver to stop him to let Jerry on. And then the kids around him that are driving and stuff are like, oh, keep running, Fatty. Oh, that's right. That's the

mean thing that gets said when he starts running. That's what he calls Fatty. Yelling Fatty at him and stuff, right? And so then... I'm in the back of that bus. I'm not telling the bus. I'm not telling the stuff. Oh, geez. I'm sticking my head out and I'm throwing pencils at him.

And I'm, you know, go run faster, fatty. You are a bully. And I cannot believe this. I can't believe I'm hearing this right now. OK, but so he misses the bus and ends up having to traverse the city home and we see him come up on a baseball field and a foul hit over to him and we see him try to throw the ball over the fence and just fail horrifically and then he feels like four times well you double down because he throws the ball twice and misses and then he's like okay here's a part of the fence that i can he throws the ball twice and misses and then he's like okay here's a part of the fence that i can just hand the ball over and then he misses twice trying to hand the ball over the fence because it's like maybe a centimeter higher than his hand can go

um really great stuff really great stuff the baseball thing was great and then right after that he's walking down the street and the dog walks by him and starts barking at him. And then he stops and barks back at the dog. And then runs and then takes off after he barks at the dog. Oh, man, that was just. And then right after that, he follows it up because he stumbles upon the lemonade stand. Yes. And he is exhausted.

Exhausted. upon the lemonade stand yes and he has and he's exhausted exhausted grabs that pitcher and just starts absolutely crushing all of that lemonade where the girls are just horrified oh it's really great stuff because that's exactly what you need if you're an overweight fella that is is parched and needs to be rehydrated is a good picture of lemonade yeah homemade lemonade too and i guarantee you those girls fucking douse that shit with sugar yeah that would have been great or like i i don't know about you but like on a really hot summer day like some orange gatorade oh man that stuff to me is like the ultimate third. Like if the next one in like a big jug. But I mean, that's meant

to rehydrate you. You're not getting rehydrated on sugar-filled lemonade. That's not helping. If anything, he's killing himself quicker. Well, I was just saying that on a hot summer day on a long walk, orange Gatorade is my favorite, Brandon.

Yeah, I get that. But I'm saying that's completely different than lemonade. Well, you're right. Don't hate on my Gatorade story. I never liked orange. I was always blue or yellow. Those were my go-to. That makes sense to your red. Yeah, red

just, it always stains your tongue though. That's the only bad thing about red But if you can get your hands on light blue That's the top flavor right there Glacier freeze I think is what it's called I'm super weird And I'm obsessed with the lemon cucumber ones

Have you? Lemon cucumber? I don't think I've ever had that Yeah, they're lime cucumber ones Yeah, those are lime cucumber ones. Yeah, those are, if you can find them, I just got some here in the Croker in Savannah. Yeah, I like the

frost flavors. I think it's what Glacier Freeze is, where it's the light blue. They also have a white one, frost flavor, that's called like cherry some, but it legitimately tastes like an icy you know what i can't like a cherry icy it's it's crazy i you know what i can't drink anymore out of all those is blue powerade that just tastes like college hangovers and like throw up you know

that's just man blue powerade you couldn't pay me to drink that shit right now this is it just tastes like hangover barf um from from college but anyways so that's that's one of my like that was just a great way to start the movie and then the pre-camp scene yeah it's fantastic and then so then he walks it so he gets from the lemonade he walks into his house and his parent this is where the parents have sprung the the camp hope on him right so they have a recruiter a camp recruiter is that is that who roger is because we never see him again no he just he just goes goes to the people's houses plays him a video and then gets him to sign up yeah like i don't know how he can Target these fat kid parents

Who they must call, I guess Yeah, I guarantee you his dad called His dad hates him for being fat Yeah But my favorite thing about Roger, so Roger's the recruiter And so Jerry Walks in and Jerry

So Jerry, all day at school, he's wearing a New York Islanders shirt. Okay. From Long Island Islanders, obviously. So he walks in, this is 1995. When this is released,

they probably filmed it in 94, you know, not the best time for the Islanders, right? They're, they're, they're a struggling franchise. But so Gary,

Gary, Gary walks in and Roger immediately goes, ah, New York Islanders, Team of the Future, as I like to call them, or something like that. Yeah, that's exactly what it says. Which I'm convinced that Roger and this movie then went on to jinx the New York Islanders for the next five years because by calling them the team of the future over the next five years let me let me run run down what happens to the New York Islanders over the next five years the heavyweight curse I like this yes the heavyweight curse

so 19 so 1995 the New York Islanders introduced what is what is often referred to as the the fish sticks jerseys right so they introduced a new logo which would look like a gordon fisherman guy with a hockey stick in front of a net said islanders and they used like it was a navy a bright orange and then like a cool mint teal kind of color okay universally hated

um by all of the fans um now those jerseys are like cult classics to where like collectors are trying to get them because there's just it's one of those things it's just so goddamn ugly that it's it's kind of cool yeah oh man there's a ton of those in the nba too yeah so that was they introduced that right when this movie started so jinx right off the bat right so they get the worst they they ended up i think it was after two years they went back to the the old jerseys they were like oh shit we're done we can't we can't do this anymore we got to go back but so then so that was 1995 in 1996 there's a guy named his last name is spanos he tries to buy the team in 1996 and it's like a huge deal he's buying the team He's trying to reinvigorate them. He comes to an agreement with the old owners.

Throughout 96 into 97, the deal hasn't been finalized yet because Spanos is doing some real dodgy shit, right? Okay, alright. So then 1997, the lid pops off, right?

And we figure out Spanos is a fraud. He doesn't have any fucking money. He's a freaking crazy guy. So he is forced to give control back, control the Islanders back to the previous owner. And so there's, there's a, so that happens in 1997. There's a, there's a great 30 for 30 about that whole thing. It's called the big, big shot is what it's called.

If get that Disney plus ESPN plus package, watch that, watch that 30 for 30 on the Islanders during this time, during the jinx, the heavyweight jinx. So then – so he gives control back to the old owner. That owner is still trying to sell the team, right? So he finds somebody else who agrees to buy the team. They're going through the due diligence, right? They get to the stadium, nassau coliseum the new owners uh the new people that are trying to buy it are like hey we just want to know we just want to make sure that this stadium is safe

that it's not going to collapse on anybody right and the old owner will not like do the inspections or whatever he's like no you got to buy it at you're buying it as is whatever whatever the condition the stadium red flag red, red flag, red flag. So that, there's a whole legal thing about that. The sale ends up finally going through in 1998, I believe. So there's that whole little trauma. But so from 1994 to 2001, the New York Islanders do not make a single appearance in the playoffs. And that is the heavyweights curse of the New York Islanders.

Team of the future. Heavy weights. I love that. Just they ruined. They ruined the Islanders. I'm blaming Roger and I'm blaming Steven Brill. Weren't the weren't the Islanders the ones that I forgot existed? Wasn't that like early in the podcast?

Yeah, that was the Oilers. Same thing. It's not. That's Ed podcast? Yeah, that was the Oilers. Same thing. That's Edmonton and Long Island, New Yorker. Two vastly different cities. You say tomato, I say tomato. This is that potato, potato

argument all over again. Okay. Roger comes in, jinxes the New York Islanders, and then bounces. We never see Roger again. Gone. Over and done with. And then we're on our way to camp.

And did you see camp is in North Carolina? I did not. I was wondering where it was. North Carolina? Okay. Yeah. I knew it was in the south. So they're deep in the Appalachians then.

Exactly. Because I knew it was in the south Because they were driving Like when he did the fake out Of going to the fast food And you saw Bojangles there That should have been a dead giveaway Dead giveaway

We used to call it Bohangles When we would go Get a spicy chicken Before I was old and had heartburn and all that stuff hangover cure spicy chicken biscuit bojangles i haven't had bojangles in probably like a year or so but oh it's fantastic great stuff great love some one of the best fast foods out there for sure love some bojangles breakfast that'll just That'll just perk you right up in the morning. Those biscuits, dude? Oh.

Great stuff. The best. All right. Hey, Bojangles, sponsor the pod. Yeah. I'll just have a thousand chicken biscuits. Yeah. All right.

So we're headed to camp. Oh, one of my favorite things that he says to you when he picks him up, Pat, is like, I'm looking for a few portly adolescents. I got such a kick out of that when he said that to the kids. They're all like, oh, Pat, you old so-and-so.

Calling us Pat. Fucking Pat, dude. Pat's one of the counselors, and he's the OG counselor. He's been there since day one, I bet. 18 years, I think is what he counselor. He's been there since, since day one, I bet 18, 18 years. I think is what he says. He's been either going to the camp or being a counselor for 18 years. And so, and Pat's played by the Tom McGowan is the actor who plays Tom.

The other main counselor that lost all the weight too. That's really great. He's wearing the crop top. Jersey. Oh, yeah. The Panthers throwbackback Panthers jersey is awesome And they're calling him like Boney butt

Because he lost weight Tim's the name of that counselor Played by Paul Feig But yeah Carolina Panthers like crop top Football jersey was the fucking best And that's where we're introduced to the nurse If I i if i was that skinny or had any like resemblance of a six-pack i would be wearing crop tops all fucking day dude yeah the the ezekiel elliot yeah for the youths you know

that's what that's what we're talking about uh so all right so we're at camp and i don't know if you have any other parts but we get to one of my favorite parts one thing i want to point out when they're pulling into camp is they do the uh they do the like the summer camp horror film uh shot where when they're pulling into camp there's some creepy dude standing at the entrance that's like don't go so so when they're pulling into the camp it's sims I think right He's got a weird ass Like walking cane that he's carrying around And he's just like wide eyed

Standing right in front of the entrance And it slows down all creepy So yeah nice little homage To all the summer camp horror films Yeah great Great stuff alright so Then we're introduced To the Bunks and I forget, is it, are they the chipmunk chipmunk chipmunk bunk? And so with that one, we are introduced to Goldberg and we see Jerry say to Goldberg, Oh, Hey, you know, I snuck a few Oreos in for a little bit of a tasty treat. And this is like, I don't know why, but I just love this part as a kid too. And then Goldberg's like chipmunks download now.

And they just start pulling candy out of freaking everywhere. Not just candy, deli meats, whole salamis out of their pants. Wait, did you recognize salami Sam? I'm pretty sure that's uh pugsley from the adams family movies salami sam i did not i did not i did not recognize salami sam now that you mentioned it though he does look like it yeah yeah i'm pretty sure that's pugsley from the adams family movies but yeah they start downloading there um the the british kid has like a jacket full of candy and then the other kid like doubles down with the the briefcase full of candy i thought

that was the british kid fucking cracked me up so the british kid nick nicholas he doesn't he has quite a few scenes where he's like farting in people's faces there's one there's one scene where they're like in tony's um uh bunk right they're in his his cabin yeah and they're trying to find extra food or whatever and they're they lose nicholas and they're like oh where's nicholas so jerry goes back to try to find him and he comes into the room and i'm pretty sure nicholas is sitting on the floor eating paint i think he's eating peanut butter it looked like a paint it looked like a paint can was it peanut butter peanut butter would make more sense but it looked like a paint can i don't think he was like a like in tommy boy that the chris farley classic he used

to eat paint chips as a kid didn't he that it looked like a paint can this is doing he's eating paint chips peanut butter sounds more appropriate maybe i just wasn't paying attention enough but it looked like uh it looked like a paint can and i was like is this motherfucker eating paint and what did you think about them licking the the melted chocolate that was so gross oh that was the oh hey that's so bad then they pinned him down and all started like eating chocolate that scene and then the later on the party scene was real rough for me because i i don't do i don't do well with like food mess it just it it throws me off like i can't like that's why i can never like introduce

whipped cream into the bedroom because it's just it's just a it's a turn off i can't do it it's a hard no no whipped cream and strawberries for you no i just I just, I just, I don't want that. I don't want any of that rubbed all over. I don't want that rubbed on my body. And then watching it being rubbed on other people's bodies. It's like my worst nightmare. I was gagging. It was, it was rough to get through.

All right. And so that's how they end the download scene. And then it just quickly transitions to another part. That was my favorite as a kid, which was the blob. Cause I was like, I was pretty big as a kid too, but blob um because i was oh yeah like i i was pretty big as a kid too but like oh man the blob looks so awesome i never went to like summer camp or anything like this did you ever go to anything like this i i went to basketball camps and stuff but we never even like went overnight because usually they were at like the college that was

in my hometown yeah so the only camps i did like, it was like basketball or baseball camps, but yeah, those were all, yeah. Just at the local, whatever. And so they weren't overnight. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I never, I've never gotten to do the blob. I've always wanted to though. That looks like, yeah. You ever watched fantasy factory,

Rob Dyrdek's thing. I never watched it, but I know what you're talking about. Cause they had all these these toys and stuff. Yeah, he had a blob in his warehouse that he worked out of. And then they would launch shit into the foam pit.

It looked like a fucking blast. I mean, that stuff's fun. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with the blob. Blob's good times. It's like the trampoline place. We went and played. Oh yeah. One time it was like a team builder and I accidentally someone ducked.

I just smashed someone right in the face. It's one of those balls, right? When the other person ducked, it was not good. There were a couple of people that went down that day. Oh yeah. The trampoline place. Was it jump street is that

what it was called and and right by the office there in denver that's what it calls right i think those are all gone there used to be a ton of those out all like all there used to be like three or four jump streets all around um like metro denver i think they're all gone now though things are just yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know how they stay I don't know how I mean you signed the waivers right But do you think there's just a million broken bones there I don't know I think it would be I think people got hurt less than you would think

It's just a trampoline I love trampolines Great stuff I say that as somebody who's definitely Broken a bone on a trampoline before this was not at one of the places this is just like a normal trampoline in a backyard i broke a toe yeah i broke my big toe it got huge it was wild um yeah all right cool so that was one of mine and then um do you have anything in between there and then because it

because it kind of goes into one of my next favorite things which is the intro to tony perkins yeah so the intro to tony perkins where you get the this is where they they had the the his parents announced or the the camp owners announced they're they're going into bankruptcy this is gonna get the high high higher that i hit you with a little prematurely at the beginning of the episode. Hit us with it again, though. Give us a good hi-hi-hi. Hi! Hi! Hi-ya! This thing's fantastic because you get the two Steeler parents, the two camp owners, they come in

and they break the news that they're going bankrupt. They had to sell everything. They had to sell the camp. They start bawling. They start crying. It's had to sell the camp And they start bawling They start crying It's a real sad affair And then the great Jerry Stiller I love Jerry Stiller

So much dude Him as Costanza's dad In Seinfeld Did you ever watch King of Queens? Yeah oh As Arthur that's like my that's like my peak comedy is like old man screaming and yelling at everything i'm so fucking love it so much king of queens is underrated it's a funny show it's only good

because of because of jerry stiller the rest of it's hit or miss but arthur and his shenanigans are fantastic But so Jerry Stiller gives us A little bit of a taste of that When he starts describing why they're going into bankruptcy He goes into it They say goodbye or whatever And they start walking away

And then Jerry Stiller Runs back to the microphone Picks it up and goes He goes I want a piece of advice for you kids Never let anyone sign your checks and then he like drops the mic and runs away gold as i wrote that down honestly honestly fantastic fucking advice don't let other people sign your checks it's just you're asking for trouble exactly like people are permanently corrupted like there is no good person out there. There's a reason

that separation of duties and controls in a money situation exist to prevent those kind of shenanigans. If they're your checks, you sign them. Nobody else. Exactly. Save

yourself. Yes. Never let anyone sign your checks. Don't put that on a t-shirt Well I mean There's You know That's Better Better

Cash Keep Cashing those checks I don't fucking know I forgot Whatever I was Shit But so

So then Perkis comes in So Lars Is introducing Tony We get the The music comes down the So Lars is Introducing Tony we get the Music comes down and his intro Is fan-fucking-tastic

Do you I don't have it written down I don't have the whole thing written down but I have one line Which I'm stealing and I'm using As like my Instagram bio And like my LinkedIn bio I'm putting that I'm stealing this His line is where'd he go

Let me pull it up this. His line is where to go. Let me pull it up here. So his line is as he's introducing him, he's like, everybody, please welcome entrepreneur, motivator, and your new friend, Tony Purvis. Wow.

That's beautiful. That's in my linkedin bio that's that's going in right now linkedin and instagram that's my new bio and entrepreneur motivator and your new friend brandon wow i i actually love that that's a that's a winner right there yeah and then he and then bensler comes out and he crushes like like picture perfect motivational like speaker parody he fucking crushes it like it's so goddamn good can i tell you my highlight from the speech yes so this is the greatest thing from that speech too he goes being an only child and educated by private tutors my whole life i look forward to interacting with children for the first time.

And then he goes. I was crying. Oh, it's so good. And then he says something like, like, I plan on teaching you guys a lot about life. And I'm pretty sure you guys will teach me a thing or two as well. Yes. And then he says, I ate success for breakfast With skim milk and we're gonna get

That fat out of Here mister It's just so good So good Ben Stiller just brought The absolute heat to this Movie from beginning to end He legitimately.

And I know I've said this. I think in every single movie we've talked about. But he legitimately should have won an Academy Award for this. It was just so good. It was so good. It was so believable. Like you all felt like he could have existed in real life. No.

So there's times. Because I remember watching this movie as as a kid like when i first came out and there's there's a couple scenes where i can remember like the feeling of like like dread and um like uneasiness you know like like i remember watching a couple scenes and being like oh this dude's a legitimate psychopath yeah like as a kid like it's like a six-year-old kid watching this movie being like, oh no, this dude's fucking crazy. When he runs back

down the aisle when he leaves and like with his hands up for high fives and no one gives him a high five and Sims, I think, is crying. Well, there's that. The other scenes where he like I legitimately like got uneasy when I watched it as a kid

was when they're in the mountains, the Appalachians, and he's... He jumps off the cliff onto the branch and then just starts doing pull-ups. At the end, when he's grabbing glass, smashing it, and then walking off.

Oh my gosh. That is just great stuff. He seduces the kid with a kiss oh my gosh that's um so and then um do you want to talk about the weigh-ins because both weigh-ins were were great the first one where um like the where he he has the name tags for everyone gerald garner not name tags he has laminated id for everyone. Gerald Garner. Not name tags. He has laminated ID cards that Lars hands him where he cycles through. Matches the picture to the kid.

And he's like, okay, Jerry. This is Jerry. Gerald Garner. Overweight, 141 pounds. Yeah, the first weigh-in where he's got the ID cards The second weigh-in when everybody Is fatter than they were when they started It's so good So the first one I love it when he's like

Congrats you're the fattest kid in camp And he's like doing this The kid is like Huzzah Huzzah Fattest kid in camp And they're all like celebrating And gets so mad um and then i also like in the second one when he he keeps like um okay roll the camera and like he starts running

he's like oh i wasn't rolling yet and he's like okay are you rolling now hold it so the the camera and then he keeps he keeps cutting it right like cut the cut the camera yeah the camera guy's great when he when he's like uh when he starts running and then uh the camera guy's oh no i'm not rolling yet and he goes oh well okay we'll retake this so he goes back and he's like right he's just standing there waiting to run and the camera guy says speed yeah and then ben stiller goes wait does that mean you're rolling so yeah yeah yeah how does that mean you're rolling? He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, what? How does that mean you're rolling? Does it say speed? Oh, I, that was, I loved that, and how he just,

he kept being like, okay, cut. Cut the camera. Cut the camera. Goldberg, like, literally gets on the scale. He's like, cut the camera. Right away, yeah. Jerry Garner gained nine pounds. The Perkins system doesn't work with cheaters

oh my god and then and then he um and then he pulls himself away oh the little the little tony talk yeah how are you doing little tony bad because everything's falling apart and i can't do anything about it it's not my fault it's their fault it's their fault and you will pay that's the best part at the end when he's like it's not my fault no it's not my fault it's their fault it's their fault yeah oh my gosh and then he makes him that's where he's like they're going for the 20 mile hike oh my god that's what it loses it and they go they go deep into the apple actions yeah and he starts that's that's that's the tipping point you know yeah and that's where uh goldberg

does to sit up oh he farts in his face so there's there's one thing on the so on the hike they're they're doing the 20 mile hike right and they're walking up they're walking up this giant hill uh portion of it and ben stiller goes into this this fucking like motivational rant about uh about icarus um and he starts talking about uh he can he what he ends up doing for people uh not familiar with uh greek mythology icarus is the myth where icarus has wings but he flies too close to the sun and then his wings melt so then he can't fly anymore there's also a myth uh the myth of sisyphus where sisyphus is rolling a boulder up a hill only for when he gets to the top it rolls

all the way back down then he has to do it again for all eternity so in his little motivational speech he crosses these these two myths and he talks about how Icarus was rolling the boulder up the hill, and then when he got to the top of the hill, it was too close to the sun, so the boulder melted. I just love everything about that. That was probably my favorite fucking thing, was him messing up those fucking Greek myths. Oh, my gosh gosh it's like

what what what's the moral of that story tony what's the there's no moral to that story you're just rolling it up a hill and then it melts at the top it just like shows what a psycho he is it's so good and and this is before um where they're like doing the montage where tony is making their lives miserable it's one of my another one of my favorite quotes where he goes, he's on like the speaker for the announcements for the camp. And he's like, attention campers, lunch has been canceled due to lack of hustle. Deal with it.

Yeah, that's great. Oh my God. So that's another thing I wanted to bring up is the speaker, like the loud speaker, the PA announcer for summer camp movies and summer camps. That, and then there was always a trope they had whenever it was a ski or a snowboard movie, there was always the PA announcer at the mountain.

When I was growing up, that was my dream job. I wanted to be like the PA announcer at like a. When I was growing up, that was my dream job. I wanted to be like the PA announcer at like a mountain, like Copper Mountain. That was my dream job. Yeah, it's so ridiculous. Because they always know like Wet Hot American Summer, which is a thing

we'll definitely talk about sooner or later. Yeah, we'll have to do that movie sooner or later with Connie in it for sure. Yeah, but the PA announcer there, it's a trope in all these kind of movies where the PA announcer knows everything, about everything, you know? And so the White Hot American Summer,

they play that too. Do you ever watch It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia? Yeah. My favorite It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is when they go down the mountain and then there's the PA announcer that's like narrating everything for them. I haven't seen that one.'s the it's their best episode um and then so that the pa announcer

is just like narrating everything and charlie's like how does he know how does he know my name and then they always just whenever anything weird happens they always just go well it's different here on the mountain i love that was little brandon's dream job was to be the the pa announcer at a either a mountain It's different here on the mountain. I love it. That was little Brandon's dream job was to be the PA announcer at either a mountain or a summer camp. You know, you can still, you can still achieve that goal. I mean, that's essentially what we're doing right now.

Podcast. That's true. You know, that's true. We're just, we're just potting it up instead. Finally, finally, finally achieved the dream. And so the but the conclusion of the hike is they kidnap tony um and not only do they kidnap tony they trap him like a fucking bear yeah it's awesome it is i i love it it's a miracle he's honestly it's a miracle he survived that fall. I don't know how they transported him from the pit to the barn.

There's a lot of plot holes here. A, I don't know how they built that trap or when they built that trap. B, I don't know how they transported him from the trap to the cage, to the electrified cage. Yeah, in the barn. These kids should be in jail. It's a miracle Tony didn't die. Honestly, it's a legit miracle he survived that trap fall because that was a good fucking 10-foot hole.

What about when they have the parents' day and they show the video of like, they show the real footage of him being a psycho and basically torturing their kids, but then they have the kids. Yeah, they have the kids eating a fake rat. It's just

ridiculous. That fall and then to put him into the electrified cage. These kids should be in jail. Oh my god. That was just absolutely great stuff. Then they have a huge

party, which was your worst nightmare. I thought it was great. Pizzas, candy, everywhere. It's just the ultimate food party. Dumping chocolate syrup all over their bodies. Food fight, Brandon. Get out of here. Food fights are my my nightmare i fucking hate

food fights yeah but then they actually start like coming around and they start to try to get fit they fix up the go-kart by stealing the motor off of mvp's boat which is right like and also i that motor would tear that go-kart apart. Yeah, that's fine. But that's the thing. They start building the go-kart. You know, Jerry and Pat are bonding. It's all coming around. It's all building up for –

The Apache Relay Ritz. Yeah, exactly. And Parents Weekend. Parents Weekend. So my question for you, Heath. So he's in the electrified cage They're doing this montage where they're learning how to cook They're learning how to eat better

They're going on hikes They're rebuilding go-karts Conservatively How long is Ben Stiller A.K.A. Tony Perkis In that electrified cage I would say like 2-3 days 2-3 days? Yeah I was thinking weeks in that electrified cage? I would say like two to three days.

Two to three days? Yeah. I was thinking weeks. No way. Camp is like probably what? Like six weeks tops. And they've probably already had like four weeks prior to that. At least. I don't know if they lasted four weeks.

And, you know, parents night, parents weekend is the last weekend to camp. And so, you know, that's a good answer. I'm saying Tony's in that cage a week tops. That's a week too long, first of all. Well, I agree. But they gave him food and water. It was about like what he was doing with the kids. At least they weren't restricting him food and water it was it was about like what he was doing with the kids at least they weren't restricting his food and water he was he's in an electrified cage and they were

restricting no they were restricting his food and water because they were they mentioned that they were going to do that they were going to give him what he did and then not only that they're they're psychologically torturing him by playing the fucking stereo messages where they're telling him how small his wiener is that's some north korea like fucking uh torture bullshit these kids should be war criminals that's but that's what tony did with Remember, he would wake them up with his warning announcements. But he's not insulting anybody. He's playing Enya and then telling them what they're going to do for the day.

That's not psychologically torturing him. But I'm playing... That message they play that Jerry records when he goes, Today we're talking about worth, Tony. Do you have any? No, you don't, because your wiener's so skinny.

Fucking. We all know there's nothing worse than a skinny wiener, Brandon. Come on, man. That's the only thing that defines your worth. I also love how he breaks down by duping the British kid with the kiss.

And then – Well, it's not even a real kiss. You saw what he did, right? Yeah, yeah. He took the tinfoil from the potato. Yeah, and made it look like a kiss. But I love how – Fucking Nicholas.

What an idiot. His entrance into the room with the parents. Through the roof? Yeah. He climbs up through the roof window and is like perched up there before he like jumps down he's like does the slow clap to enter great cinema production i know that's not what he says but oh my god that's and then he does like all the back flips and takes himself out into the wall yeah and then he's just smashing glass and stuff yeah when he smashes the glass to step on

it before he's he's he's as he's a psychotic person no doubt but that the electrified cage the trap in the electrified cage these kids are no better you know these kids should be war criminals that's against the geneva convention i'm pretty sure. It's a real Lord of the Flies type of scenario. Once they put him in the electrified cage, I have in my notes, I wrote down, I don't know if Tony's the bad guy in this movie anymore. Oh, come on.

No, this is a real Lord of the Flies scenario where the kids just did what they felt was necessary to get the job done. Okay, but do you remember the, the underlying message of Lord of the flies? It's that you shouldn't do that for the greater good, Brandon. All right. All right. But, and, and so we can,

we can probably kind of start wrapping this up because after that happens, they're getting ready to close the camp and Ben Stiller playing his own father ends up being like, yeah, you know, Pat, you can just take it. Just do it. He makes the kids call him Papa. Yeah, he makes the kids call him Papa.

And he makes fun of his own kid. He's like, I gave him everything. And he acts like this. He'd think he needed a hug or something. Good stuff. But then Pat takes over because he's been there the longest and then they're 18 years for the big apache relay which they um so they they planted questions that they knew and all that you know like the whole history section i feel like they maybe kind of cheated that part a little bit but that's fine you know it was yeah the the hall of knowledge what was it called the hall of whatever yeah um yeah yeah that seems sketchy also i i'm was also confused at how the camp mvp people got through the hall of knowledge was there like a time limit to where like if if you

if you didn't know the answer you just had to wait like 20 minutes and then you could go on to the next one yeah otherwise that kid that kid's not answering any of those questions he's not getting through that same with like the kid that was trying to shave with goldberg you know like that that but it was just you know it was a real nice come from behind story you know it was really epic when at the end the go-kart scene at the end is pretty tight when he when he jumps a go-kart with a go-kart oh that is that was an awe and that's where Jerry you know became the leader of the camp he flew that go-kart over MVP what is what is he saying what's his quote about go-karts in the

in the middle um like when they're when they're all sad still because tony's in charge uh pat like pushes him around yeah he he asks why do you like go-karts so much and he says and uh jerry says oh because because i'm not fast and they're real fast there's some stupid shit like that. I just want to go fast. Yeah. And then it ends with Pat taking the trophy and being like, what? This trophy? We don't need trophies. And throws it into the lake.

Just the message that all they needed was that bond. That friendship. That team. Self-confidence. That's all you need. You don't need a trophy. Yeah. I do have some thoughts about the incredibly racist Apache relay race

though and the theme of it all. You had the hollow knowledge. You had the secrecy. It's the Apache relay race. They are all dressed up as Native Americans. Incredibly insensitive depictions of Native Americans.

Yeah. But Camp MVP is dressed in togas? Greek togas? Which doesn't make any sense because usually the Greeks aren't battling the Native Americans. If it's called

the Apache Relay Race, you would think all of them would be dressed as Native Americans. Or maybe – can't be if he would be cowboys, but Greeks and togas? That seemed weird. That seemed like an oversight. And they could have just called it the Relay Race or the camp. Yeah, I don't know why they call it Apache. Yeah, I think that was just

the mid-90s and being incredibly insensitive to everybody. Yeah, no one cared about anyone's feelings. Listen, you had to worry about yourself. And if you got hurt feelings about slight things, you were in for a world of hurt

for the rest of middle school, bud. Yeah, that whole that whole whole theme of that race made absolutely no sense yeah just call it a relay race um and it was the weirdest relay race ever yeah oh yeah yeah it was like it was it was a potato sack race then it was then there was like agility race that there was no way any of the kids from camp hope could have ever completed. Just like the MVP kids couldn't get through the Hall of Knowledge.

Some of the required pull-ups and stuff. Those kids aren't doing pull-ups. No, yeah. Then it ends with go-karts. Yeah, and then it ends with go-karts, which super dope ending, but that relay race just sure was a hot mess.

Yeah. Another thing that just popped in my head that I want to point out about Tony Perkis is, so in addition to the relay race, in the middle of the movie, they have a softball game with Camp MVP. Which is a total disaster, too. There's some great moments there. When the kid swings and then hits himself in the back of the head with the bat.

Camp MVP, if I'm not mistaken, is a baseball summer camp. They're going to play them in softball. A bunch of fat kids playing legitimate baseball. My favorite part, part though is when Terry

is a Terry or Tim. Who's the other counselor? Tim. When Tim is talking to Tony Perkis like pleading him not to go through with this softball game and Ben Stiller hops off his bike, like puts it

onto his shoulders. He's curling it too. Curling it, like puts it on his shoulders. He's curling it too. Curling it and then puts it onto his shoulders and then starts running. Because he runs up the stairs. But he keeps running. When he's when he's past the stairs, he keeps running. I don't know. He probably ran a good mile with the with the bike on his on his back.

And then, oh, that reminds me to the scene where they're sneaking into his cabin in the morning and um they so they're in his cabin they're looking for snacks or whatever and it intersperses with tony's like morning run his morning run is insane it is awesome he's like picking up law and he's like getting in Pat's face about it When Pat is raking That is great And we also have to point out that Ben Stiller Reprised this role

For Dodgeball Well I wouldn't Say that because it's technically not a reprise Because they're technically two different characters But they're heavily crossover. If you watch

heavyweights in Dodgeball back to back, side by side, you would think it was the same character. What's his name in Dodgeball? Seth Goodman? Something Goodman, right? I think it's Goodman. Yeah. I'd have to call it that.

But yeah. Technically not the same character, but I mean, you know, 99% the same. Like, just like you said, 99% that it's White Goodman.

White Goodman. that's what it is I'm blanking on the deleted scene But there's like an after credits scene On Heavyweights where he's like Super fat or something, isn't he? Or is that Dodgeball? So the after credits scene in Heavyweights He's selling crystals door to door

Oh, that's right But the after credits scene in Dodgeball He's super fat And yelling at the TV See the characters are so similar That I forgot Which after credit was which Yeah

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fantastic it's fantastic and i like i said ben stiller fucking crushes it like he i and i mean this with from the bottom of my heart he should have won an academy award it's it's and for the best supporting actor i loved it i loved everything about this this. It was a great, and once again, like the ties to the Mighty Ducks in this movie, it's just so extremely crystal clear, right? Where you've got the characters, it's the same writer. It kind of has like a similar feel, right? Yeah, like the tone of the movie feels very similar. The humor feels very similar. So, looking up the Academy Awards, right? So, this came out in 95. So, it would have been eligible for the 1996 Academy Awards, correct?

Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm looking at the 1996 Academy Awards. Best Supporting Actor. The winner was Kevin Spacey in The Usual Suspects. Great movie. Solid performance. Yeah. actor the winner was kevin spacey in the usual suspects great movie solid performance yeah i would have voted for ben stiller in heavyweights over that i think he would i think he crushes this i think and especially especially now that we know everything we know about kevin spacey we strip this award we give it to ben stiller right wait wait before has ben stiller done anything terrible

before i don't think so i i think i don't think he's been canceled i haven't heard anything about it but i also am not the most up-to-date on this stuff so he could have if it i'm hoping he has it kevin spacey i know for sure is a weirdo and a and a and a predator and a whatever you want to call it not a good person so let's strip this this award for best supporting actor give it to ben stiller you know what i'm i'm just i'm gonna do it on behalf of the academy it's it's done it's it's done thanks brandon we'll we'll reach out to ben stiller's people see if we can get him on i'm just gonna send him the award he doesn't i mean if he wants to come on the pod that would would be fantastic. But he doesn't need to.

I'll send him the award. Do we have? We need to come up with like a cake eater's grading scale for these movies. Of like different kinds of cake. Like if a movie really sucks, it's like birthday sheet cake from Walmart. And if it's awesome, it's like gourmet Velvet cake or something like that That's what we need to do Should we do it

This movie is like a nice Angel food cake Yeah it could be cake style What about a nice angel food cake Or should we just give them like One out of five cakes What do you think would be best I mean out of five cakes i would

give this one probably four yeah potentially four out of five cakes will be easier to under it'll be easier to understand than doing it like based on style of cake you know yeah because that makes no fucking sense but like i would give i would give Heavyweights four out of five cakes because it's a great movie, but it's not perfect. I would go, I'm going to go, because I'm

going to go decimals. You can have half a cake, you know. So you're going to go three points. I'm going 3.7 cakes out of five for heavyweights. All right. You know, what, what about, so, so now we got to retroactively do this. What about love?

Always Santa. What's your, what's your cake rating for love? Always Santa cake rating for love. Always Santa is probably two out of five cakes. It was a great Hallmark movie, but it comparatively to all other movies out there, it left a lot to be desired. I feel you on that.

So I'm for Love Always Santa. I'm going to go right down the middle. I'm going to go two and a half out of five, two and a half. Okay. You have a 50%. Just straight, just straight down the middle.

Yeah. Perfect. A perfect middle of the road score Not good, not good What about Untold? Oh, man I love that What do you give that one?

I love that Untold documentary Man, that might be That might be like another 4.1 Cakes out of a 4.1 cakes out of five. 4.1? Ooh, okay. Well, no, maybe like a 3.5 cakes out of five.

Okay. I'm going to do like 3.3 cakes. I'm always, you know, I always, like, I think everyone tries really hard and they put their best foot forward. So I always err on the side of more than less. What about the Flying V 30 for 30? What do you give on that one? I'll say like what you did, 2.5 out of 5 cakes for the Flying V. Okay.

I'm gonna give uh I'm gonna give it like a uh I'll give it a two but yeah so that's heavyweights heavyweights was uh solid again Ben Stiller should be should have an academy award best supporting actor Tony Perkis probably one of the greatest

characters ever I would say it's a fun movie and it is worth all hour and 38 minutes that you will spend watching it. Yes. Yes. It's time well spent. That's for sure. It's not super long.

It's 90, just over 90 minutes, 98 minutes, right? Yep. 98 minutes on Disney plus get it going, put it on for the kiddos. Yeah.

Kiddo. Just enjoy it. Yeah. Again, it's PG. Again, a lot of the jokes are not time, you know, not PC related. So I don't know if I'd

throw this on for my kid. It's fine. I've watched it as a kid. Just don't call other kids fatties and then you won't get in trouble at school. I don't know. It's just like swear words you know like you hear fuck in a movie you don't say it school the next day if you do you get in trouble i don't know maybe it's different i always watch showtime and hbo i always said it he's and you saying you you watched it it's not a not a rain endorsement heath i don't know if we want a ton of Heaths running around here. There were some crazy fucking jokes

though in this. I forgot to talk about my favorite nonsense joke. When they're at the 90s dance with the girls and one of the girls, nobody's dancing with each other because it's middle school, 11-year-old dance. It goes to a couple of the girls and one of them goes, why can't these boys just lose weight?

And then the other girl goes, how about you go teach him how to throw up after your meal like you? Whoa. Damn, dude. Dicey. Damn. Fucking throwing shots over here. I love that. I mean, it's not nice, but man, they just

they pushed the envelope. They did. Stephen Brill went for it, man. Yeah. Man. Highly recommend. Great movie. Yeah. Four out of five cakes for me just because

it's funny. It's a great one to watch. Especially if you like the Mighty Ducks movies, then you'll love this. Yeah, exactly. If you're a Ducks fan, this is for you. Yes, absolutely. Watch D1, watch heavyweights, and then watch D2. It's almost like it'll be like Keenan and Goldberg met at fat camp

and then, and lost some weight for the Junior Olympics. I would have loved it if they would have kept the same, like made this like part of like the Mighty Ducks

cinematic universe where they're the same characters. Carp and Keenan and Goldberg go, oh, hey, quack, quack, quack. Thanks for listening, everyone. Please remember to follow and like us on Instagram at TheCakeEatersPod, on Twitter at TheCakeEaters. Also reach out to us via email, TheCakeEatersPod at gmail.com or visit our website, TheCakeEatersPod.com.