The Cake Eaters - 32. Little Big League (Brock Pierce & John Beasley)

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

Harry Caray joins the podcast! And then Heath & Brandon discuss the 1995 Saturn Awards, America's Favorite Dad John Beasley, Heath's love for Luke Edwards and Newsies, their first-ever concerts, how cool 90s Seattle sports teams were, and then breakdown the rest of Little Big League. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

It's not worth winning if you can't win! Hi, it's Harry Carey here, welcoming you to the Cake Eaters Podcast. We got a great show for you. Harry Carey here. Let's talk about the movie Little Big League. And it's Harry Carey here. Fantastic. Fantastic.

Thank you to Harry Carey for that beautiful introduction. Wow. To get him out of the dead. That might be the biggest get this podcast has ever had. No offense to a friend of the program, Marcus Chavez, but, you know. You know, big win to pull Harry Carey from the grave there and bring him back for what could be one of the greatest youth baseball movies of all time.

Oh, gosh. I don't know if I'd go that far. No, I'm just kidding. That is a little stretch too far. Sandlot. Oh, so yeah, Sandlot for sure. Sandlot, hands down. Rookie of the Year. And Rookie of the Year is probably second.

Yeah. I don't know. I probably i'd go sandlot i'd probably go the sandlot angels in the outfield and then rookie of the year that's that's also very true uh don glover crushes that yep little jgl well just just gordon levitt you know oh man that's uh that's another great movie too bad there weren't any ducks and a young uh what's the fuck what's the uh who's the guy that plays his dad he's like a real i forget what the fuck is his name tony danza but tony danza is not his dad uh speaking of tony danza do you ever when you listen to the uh the el song. Dermot Mulroney. That's who plays his dad. Young Dermot Mulroney. That's who I was thinking of.

Oh, nice. I was just going to. I pulled up the cast list on this, dude. So many fucking people were in Angels in the Outfall. I totally forgot. Matthew McConaughey is in that movie. I forgot he's in that fucking movie. Oh, wow.

Adrian Brody. Our boy from Walking Tall,il mcdonough yeah well and uh neil mcdonough also i forgot where i knew him from but he crushes band of brothers he he plays buck buck in band of brothers but anyway before you cut me off i was gonna say i always in the outfield when whenever i hear the name tony danza i always sing uh his name in tiny dancer by the one and only elton john from hold me close now tony danza yeah that's uh right you know yeah yeah i've i've seen friends i've done that before yeah yeah it's great it's the only good thing that came from friends i wouldn't say the only good thing yeah i'll stand by that i hated ross i can't get through

friends i just i just fucking hate ross oh yeah ross ross is terrible although ross did give us the the holiday armadillo do you remember that that was fantastic no the only thing that ross did well was pivot pivot so that like every time you move anything you just yell pivot at the other person yeah that's good do you do that yeah the holiday armadillo is classic though i fucking love the holiday armadillo i bring that shit out all the time just drives me fucking nuts i just oh he's but yeah he's the worst he's the worst but all right anyways back to the movie that we're actually breaking down. Not angels in the outfield,

but little big league as Harry carry. So eloquently put is little big league, the one and only. And so we, and you might be asking yourself, Heath, Brandon, Harry,

why on earth are we talking about Little Big League? And I'm going to give you a couple of reasons here, Heath, okay? We got two. We got three. Three. Well, two main reasons. The third one is just a loose, happy coincidence. Number one, we have our boy, John Beasley, America's father, is in this movie now the reason i father of the year

now the reason i picked this movie was because this next person was in it and that's brock pierce you might be thinking to yourself i'm not sure who brock pierce is and how he writes to the mighty ducks he's the kid who plays young gordon in d1 and d2 ah little gordo on the ice yes so he is in he's in this movie he's the kid at the in the stickball scene in chicago where they're like uh he's he's sydney he's the kid he's the kid nobody wants on their team and then he looks at the card of uh of uh billy haywood uh to compare it and he's like oh no they don't look anything alike he's that kid yeah yeah but so the stickball scene is where he recaptures his youth and his exuberance for the game his love of the game oh yeah that there's that that scene is in every

every single kid's sports movie sports movie where they yeah they they play the the pickup game and then they realize you know what this then they realize, you know what? This is kind of fun. You know what it reminded me of? A little movie called D2, The Mighty Ducks when they had a little street hockey match with Kenan and his brother. Exactly. That's exactly what I was thinking of. Yeah.

It's beautiful. Even more ducks tie in. Wow. It's great. This movie got nominated for two awards, by the way. Did you see that? Are you serious? What awards?

What awards? Yeah. So it was – What dumbass awards could this movie have possibly been nominated for? Okay. First of all, let's be nice to this movie. It reminds me of my childhood. I think I told you before.

This is one of the 10 or 12 VHS that we actually own the movie standalone. So this movie got a lot of run in the vcr back in the day but your boy luke edwards who we can talk about for a second but go ahead what were you saying i would say i remember enjoying this movie as a kid as well and then coming back to it i was like what the hell is happening here yeah it's coming back to it like the first half of the movie i was like god i love this movie and then about halfway was like, okay, it can be over now. I did love the – there's the thing that every single baseball movie does where like it's at the beginning of the movie and there's like a scene about – there's a scene of them playing baseball. T-ball. Yeah yeah like a youth baseball game

no no no i'm talking about like actually like the not right off the bat but like right a little couple scenes in when they're at the baseball game the actual baseball game okay and they have every baseball movie has this where it's like it's a scene or two or sometimes in moneyball's case the whole movie where it's scenes of them playing major league baseball and it's set to like this nice like calming like instrumental like ballad music and it's just like nice and calm and romantic you know it's every single baseball movie does it and it's i'm a sucker for it i fucking love it every time i'm like damn baseball's the best the montage well and so remember i used to work for like a minor league baseball team like the cheap seats where a song by alabama was written

about the single a canapolis intimidators back in the day right and i know what you're talking about because our major for our minor league baseball fans they're now the cannonballers canapolis cannonball yeah the canapolis cannonballers i think they're still affiliated with the white socks though i believe so i could be wrong yeah i believe they are i believe they are but yeah that like instrumental montage of them prepping the field for the game like when you work for the stadium and you've been at the field for eight straight home games there really is like some poetry in that motion because like it just becomes like a part of you because you spend so much time there at

the stadium then we used to call them minor league campfires and it's where we would just stay for an extra hour after the game and just drink 32 ounce beers and then go drive home oh it's not smart but you know it's the bosses were doing it was like it was like a two minute drink 32 ounce beers and then go drive home. Oh, it's not smart, but you know, it was the bosses were doing it. It was like, it was like a two minute drive home.

We were fine. But anyways, yeah. Oh, there's just something about that. Like being at the game, like Brad Pitt, it kind of lost some of that.

Like the movie or baseball, baseball, baseball, lost some of that. It doesn't feel like it's poetry in motion anymore baseball is struggling right now they're struggling yeah um i'm a baseball traditionalist though all the new shit they're doing get it out of my face i don't need it they're trying to modernize it so it's not so fucking boring brandon yeah that's that's part of the fucking charm though is that

it's so goddamn boring you know it's like impossible to sit through like to watch it's a it's a chess match it's you know you can't you can't add explosions to a chess match and think it's going to be more exciting it's going to be just as boring just with a fucking explosion you know yeah people just don't play chess anymore brandon they play call of duty i don't know after queen's gameit wasn't there a huge resurgence in people buying chess boards remember oh i mean some of the really fancy ones that was a pandemic thing that everybody got swept up in right well maybe i that sounds like a nice one i never watched it but i remember it being like a huge thing when it came out yeah people got into it kelly watched it

it was not for me now again it's it's it's chess what the fuck i'm gonna watch chess for yeah it's fine i mean the explosion in there and then he got me get one of the get one of the fast and the furious guys in there driving her around in the car while playing chess to save the world dude sign me up twice if you throw the rock in queen's gambit i'm watching oh my god could you imagine like the rock breaking her out of there and she has to play on like a digital chess board and like in order to keep the satellite afloat so it doesn't drop like a nuclear bomb onto the world dude i think you just wrote fast 10 um netflix can we get them on speed dial they'll make that movie especially if we can

get the rock on it oh yeah absolutely no deal all right hold on let's get back to a little big league real quick because i want to talk about what words for a second or do you want to let me let me let me finish up the connection so brock pierce okay yes who plays young gordon has a small very small role in this and then john beasley who is the america's father mr hall he's two great scenes he's the security guard at the the triple h metrodome here in many and that that's the third uh very loose connection it's a minneapolis sports movie so yep love that And we can go, we can, do you want to, do you want to talk about John Beasley's great two parts that he had in this

movie? Because the second one was a, just a really great piece in that Mariners game where they did the fake out. So he has the, he has three, three scenes. He does the fake out,

which is fantastic. Like you said, it's the acting on the fake out scene where they tag griffey out at second that's beautiful i love it he crushes it and that i you know he he's the the glue that held that that trick play together absolutely and he was so billy haywood was so obsessed with trick plays dude it's all he fucking talked about that was his only coaching that he ever did was to teach him how to do trick plays well you know he did a good job setting the lineups and everything that's he's not setting lineups max doing that

he's helping mac do the rotations it's fine i don't know i don't know yeah i just i i have in my notes at least like four or five times stop enough trick plays enough this is a kid's movie that's all the kids movies are think about little giants that's the little giants did nothing first of all the annexation of puerto rico is not a trick play that's a tried and true football masterpiece okay he's well i wasn't even talking about that i was talking about the uh the antacids when they Puerto Rico is not a trick play. That's a tried and true football masterpiece. Okay, Heath? Well, I wasn't even talking about that. I was talking about the antacids when they're chewing the antacids and they goober all the foam down. That's a trick play.

Yeah, it was a great trick play too and very effective. But the other scene that I liked from our good friend Mr.. Beasley, was when he was a brand new security guard. And he's like, hey, kids. Like, goddamn kids going to get me in trouble first week of the job. These little motherfuckers get off the field. That was pretty funny. Oh, my gosh. I was cracking up so bad.

Because that is like the most honest portrayal of that moment that you could possibly see right just like god these goddamn kids get off the field how did you get in here oh that was great that's good his third scene is is at the very end after they lose to the mariners spoiler alert and he comes he comes running into the locker room and he's like, Hey Billy, they're still here. And then Billy goes, who's still here. And then John Beasley, a plus actor.

This is, this will got nominated for award. The scene for, for best scene ever. Cause he turns to Billy and he goes, everyone. Oh yeah. And then the sold out crowds still there for some reason.

Cause they're giving Billy on. Yeah. they're giving Billy a standing ovation. They're losing. He's lost. He's a loser, Heath. The first year after the owner died, they weren't even expected to be in the one-game playoff, Brandon. They didn't have the one-game playoff back then. Was this a one-game playoff? I thought this was just the last game of the regular season yeah but it was like winning in

yeah but i mean that's not a one game playoff it was more or less a one game playoff but it's it's just the last game of the regular season you're gonna play that game regardless well don't be such a hater of the moment it was drama brand yeah they win they're in it's not a playoff game it's the last game of the regular season anyway the moral of the story is billy haywood is a loser okay whoa all right so speaking of billy hay he lost he lost the last game of the season he almost he should have lost his friends i don't know why his friends are sticking around so much you know all right did you can i by the way did you love the the backup friend lol that was fucking great oh i have that lol absolutely carried this movie as well like this is lol we we hang out with him when billy can't hang out

yeah and and how they stacked all the mail on top of him. He's like, sorry, I can't make it. I'm sitting on Lowell right now. What do they say at the end when Billy apologizes? They're like, yeah, Lowell said we should probably forgive you because, you know, you're under a whole lot of stress. You know, he's pretty smart when you let him talk oh speaking of the three best friends brandon that's actually one of the awards that this movie was nominated for the three best friends that anyone could have yeah the the young artist awards in 1995 nominated best performance

by a youth ensemble and emotion picture are you luke fucking kidding me? Luke Edwards, Billy Sullivan, and Miles Fulner. Are you kidding me? I mean, I guess what other movies came out in 1994? Not a lot of stiff competition, I'm guessing, if these fucking weirdos got nominated for it. Listen, all he needed to do was pitch Redman. Why didn't they include Lowell? Why was Lowell not included?

Yeah. You know what you got to do was why didn't they include lul wedman why was lul not included yeah you know what you gotta do you gotta pitch wedman against the tigers i mean wedman fucking crushed it dude yeah absolutely he was right in the end yeah um so the other award why was why was lul not included in that that's that's a that's some goddamn lul erasure right there. That's because he wasn't officially a part of the ensemble, Brandon. He was an extra. He's not an extra. Because when Billy came back, he was out.

Yeah, but he's not an extra. He had speaking roles. As far as the Screen Actors Guild guild is concerned that's not an extra anymore heath that's a young according to the young artist awards he didn't matter oh he just wasn't included in the ensemble probably because fucking yeah billy's taking all the credit fucking loser well speaking of billy luke edwards he was nominated for the saturn award for best performance by a young actor that's okay not to not to i was i was playing i was hoping not to have to do this not to not to shit on luke edwards here but this would be nice to luke edwards here he's not going

to come on the podcast this is not not a good acting performance, Luke. This is a Saturn Award nominee performance, Brandon. Do you know who won the award? No. Do you know who won either of those awards? No. I mean, we can look up the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror Films USA. Wait, what's the Saturn Award?

Yeah, Saturn Award for Best Performance by a Young Actor. 1995. And while you're looking that up, I do have just a quick Luke Edwards rant. Because, especially before you shit on him, for the viewers. Or not viewers viewers the listeners because most of you if you are like me and enjoy a delightful and lovely musical will recognize luke edwards from the christian bale masterpiece arguably masterpiece, arguably Christian Bale's finest role of his entire acting career, the one and only Disney musical Newsies. And Luke Edwards is just fine in that movie. He plays the little brother. He has this

line where he's like, take me last paper, mister. Because he's like take me last paper mister because he's like trying to trying to pretend that he's sick to to sell a paper but uh yeah that movie is so good you know we can oh we just you open the gates you seize the day you you're not going to be afraid and you don't delay nothing's going to break us and no one can make us give our rights away are you are you are you done are you are you done here because i know i'm not done i have i love the award i have the award winner as well as the other nominees for best young uh best young performance hold on real quick before we move on name one better christian bale movie besides the Batman trilogy than Newsies. Exactly.

Can't even think of one. I mean, yeah, I don't know if they it's close to whether they'd be better than Newsies or not. But not a single one. The fighter is pretty solid. American was an American hustle. wasn't too bad it's fine not as good as newsies yeah it's close though i don't know i guess i guess when he's playing the cowboy when he does when he sings santa fe and does that like cowboy dance in the middle of the road my god you didn't talk about award-winning performances but all right anyways let's go back saturn award saturn awards 1995

best performance who's competing with luke edwards so i'll give you that i'll give you all the nominees you guess who won ready okay elijah wood for uh north as north oh i love that movie too that's a really good movie jonathan taylor thomas and the lion king okay wow uh miko hughes uh as dylan porter in uh west craven's new nightmare i don't i don't know what that means. Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Angels in the Outfield. Oh, wow. Luke Edwards, Little Big League. Okay. Kirsten Dunst, Interview with a Vampire.

Who do you think won? Wow. That is actually a star-studded. The fact that he was even nominated with those people is astonishing. No offense, Luke Edwards, but this was not a good performance. Not a good performance from Luke Edwards. What a group to be. Man, I don't even know.

Maybe Kirsten? No. Let's do the performance in North. What's his butt? No. Wasn't him't him no definitely not who was it what was the first one he said kirsten dunst yeah interview with a vampire she won oh it was her wow that makes sense i think feel like that one you needed the most acting chops out of all those yeah wow that is a star-studded cast you know luke edwards couldn't bring it on when it came to kirsten dunst 1994 i didn't realize how fucking legit 1994 was as far as movies go listen to some of these these movies that were nominated for other awards right okay um forrest

gump was in 1994 interview so that's like um yeah and like uh um shawshank redemption right um yep shawshank redemption time cop Time Cop, dude. Time Cop. What else we got here? We got the Flintstones. True Lies. The Shadow. What else we got? Angels in the Outpost. 94.

The Crow. Oh, nice. What else? Nice. Wasn't 94 Pulp Fiction, too? They weren't nominated for any of these oh the the santa claus with tim allen dude oh the santa claus is the easy top five favorite yeah pulp fiction is 94 oh well they didn't get nominated for any of these awards stargate that. That's a pretty solid movie. Yeah.

Stargate was good. 1994 was a great year for me. Speed was in 1994, dude. Oh, there's a Keanu hit. Yeah. Dude, man. 1994. Bringing it.

Bringing it hot. Oh, man. That's awesome. So should we should we start kind of digging into the. Oh, wait. No. Yeah. Pulp Fiction won. I'm sorry. Pulp Fiction won Best Action Film for the Saturn Awards. I didn't see that.

Yeah, I was going to say, how is Pulp Fiction not nominated for anything? The Jungle Book was 1994, too. Oh, God, that was a good one, too. Yeah. Star Trek Generations? What a year, dude. What a year. Star Trek Generations. i don't think that movie

was very good no that's not one of the better but i mean it's star trek generations that's when all the generations come together that's true that is that is true i i'm a sucker like my favorite it's probably in my top five favorite movies i was having this debate with kelly if it should conclude it or not but star trek 2 wrath of khan oh my god i absolutely love that movie it's by far the best star trek movie hands down like like from no matter which not not a decade or era not a huge huge accomplishment as as a as aie myself, Star Trek movies, there's a lot of stinkers in there. Oh, my God. So is it the third or the fourth one where they have to save the whales? Because the whales are broadcasting out distress signals.

And that's how they're going to. I think it's the fourth. But that's how they save spock is the fucking whales right yeah it's it's it's real it's real rough back to life you're welcome it's it's not very good yeah that's how they find spock after he like right after he vanished because in the second one with yeah theacon. Yeah, Khan kills him, bro. Yeah. Because he saves the day. He sacrifices himself, you know. Yeah.

Whatever. Semantics, Heath. Anyway, Little Big League. Little Big League. He tasks me, Brandon. He tasks me. But so back to Little Big League. A couple other actor shoutouts I want to give.

The dude who plays McGreevy. Where's McGreevy? I'm going to forget his name. Okay. Do you remember Mike McGreevy from the Little Big League, Keith? Mike McGreevy? I think so. He's the pitcher.

He's the disgruntled pitcher. He's not about it at first. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's played by Scott Patterson. Do you know who Scott Patterson is? Yeah, what is he in? I couldn't figure it out. I meant to Google it.

Connection to the KQinky news here he's in the gilmore girls with lauren graham he plays he plays luke her love interest that is right i was wondering where i recognized him from okay yeah he's he's luke from gilmore girls shout out luke luke from luke from gilmore girls all right they just man they just talk real fast back and forth to each other in that show and that's about all i get from it usually and then uh another another one here is uh jim bowers remember that the relief pitcher the the dude who's like always has the weird sayings and it's like the hippie oh bowers was uh one of the highlights of this movie oh yeah he's fantastic but so he's

played by jonathan silverman you he may recognize jonathan jonathan silverman from a little uh local tv show called psych uh-huh he oh yes do you remember Truer Lies episode of the guy who constantly lies? That's Jim Bowers. That's Jonathan Silverman. I knew I recognized him from somewhere, too. Now that you're saying it, it's like, oh, yeah, duh. That is totally him. I just pulled up his IMDb to see if he was on anything else, but I think he just has little bit parts everywhere.

Yeah, he has little bit rules in a bunch of TV shows and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so some more actor connections for you. I love that. I love fucking Luke from Gilmore girls being in this.

Cause I had this, I had the same thought you did. I saw his face and I was like, I was like, I know that motherfucker. What is he from? And then turns, he's Luke.

He's fucking Luke, dude. Huh? Okay. It's good stuff. We, we, we still haven't, we haven't He's fucking Luke, dude. Huh. Okay. It's good stuff. We still haven't, we haven't talked about this movie at all here. And the mom, the mom from Little Big League. We haven't even talked about the movie.

Hold on real quick. One last aside. I could not figure out where I knew the mom from in this movie. And I was like, God, she looks so familiar. I can't she looked out super super i don't know why i said super now i boxed myself into a grammatical error here she looked a lot like charlie's mom on the very underrated show Heroes. Oh, talk about early 2000s flashback, dude.

Heroes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Heroes. You remember that? I never watched it. Oh, it was season one was so good. And then like the whole writer's strike happened. And it just like the storylines got botched after season one.

And like it had so much potential that it just never quite lived up to. But I still loved it. Yeah, that's what everybody says. Everybody's like the first season is gold and then the rest is terrible. But I still never watched it. It's not. Yeah, I feel like it's similar to Tiger King to where the time to watch it was then. And now it's just like, you know, not even worth it.

Yeah. It's too late now. Like that new Tiger King TV show that Peacock came out with. That is the hardest pass I've ever had in my life. That looks weird. Just no thank you. All right. Yeah.

Let's get back to the movie because there were like a few things that really cracked me up we haven't even we haven't even told people the plot of the movie yet you know yeah yeah let's let's let's break down the plot so we can so we can talk about like that my fate one of my favorite lines when the kids are asking is uh billy like is your grandpa richer than mr howell from gilligan's island do you remember what the grant what the grandpa says oh this is it was number one favorite quote of the whole movie is like are you as rich as jed clampett i piss on jed clampett yeah he says he pisses on yeah grandpa in the middle of an ice cream store it's a fucking 10 year old boys he He says, I piss on Jake Clampett. What a maniac. Yeah, dude.

That reminds me of, did your friend's parents not talk to you like that when you were a little kid? Because mine did. No, I grew up with civilized parents, Heath. None of that Iowa bullshit. how many times do i have to clarify that i've never once in my entire adult or my entire life my my living breathing life have i ever had an iowa address brandon i was simply born in the hospital because wayne america hospital was so small in 86. Oh, my God. This is weird. Oh, God. Would you just. Anyway, though. Explain the fucking movie.

So the richest grandpa in the world dies, right? Yes. He's donezo. Owner of the twins. He owns the twins. Dude, this would have been Kirby Puckett time, too, right? Like Kirby Puckett was playing for the twinsins during this time? Or was he just retiring? He might have.

Because he got hit in the face and like fucked up his eye and like had to retire early, right? Yeah, this would have been Kirby Puckett time. Kirby retired in 1996. Oh, so just a couple years before he retired. He was on the tail end. Yeah. And this, I mean, 1994. Was the strike i think this is the strike year right it was the strike 94 to 95 maybe i think that's what it was i think it was 90 it might have been 95 anyway it's real

close to the strike ish so the strike time or whatever um but yeah but yeah so so what grandpa dies dunzo gone right god it was like actually kind of like sad in the movie too because he was going to see roger clemens and he was super excited and he was he got uh he got to leave school early this reminded me of my first concert ever we got to leave school early to go catch the destiny's child concert in sioux city that was your first ever concert yeah yeah i saw destiny's child queen bay in in uh sioux city iowa how old were you i was like 15. That was your first concert ever?

Yeah, I lived in the middle of nowhere, Brandon. And my parents didn't like take me to concerts because you'd have to drive like to Omaha. And they're not fucking with that. Do you want to guess what my first concert was? Oh, geez. It was probably some like punk rock band, right? No. Yellow Card? No. No, Yellow Card, no. Not my first concert. oh geez it's probably some like punk rock band right no yellow card no no yellow card no not not my first concert my first concert ever was britney spears that's that's almost as good as mine i was like i was either like nine or ten i think it was either like fourth or fifth grade

was it like an i heart radio concert no it was uh concert? No, it was right after Baby Hit Me One More Time came out. Oh, nice. That's awesome. But that's also the difference between living in Denver and living in Wayne, Nebraska. It's just different options back then. I mean, I'm pretty sure Britney Spears is a regular in Wayne, Nebraska. She's got a pretty sure her second house is there. Listen, we weren't going to Britney Spears, but we were going maybe to to

Windside and go watch the Rumbles play. That was a great, very popular northeast Nebraska band. The Rumbles. Big Mike was a Rumbles. OK, OK. Yeah. Yeah. Look, look them up, listeners.

They're probably all dead now, they they were they were great we need to get um a cake eaters concert going where it's britney spears destiny's child and the rubbles that's easy well we could we could definitely get michelle and kelly roland i don't know we might have some some tough luck with beyonce let me reach out to jay see if i can see if i can convince him to let us get her on the pod let me know but cool yeah i'll just i'll text him here when we're done recording speaking of so so again we haven't talked about the movie at all all right go back to the description a little big league grandpa grandpa is dead he's done so gone he owns the minnesota twins right so his son is also dead from previously before the movie started the the dad is dead dead dad oh hold on did you get the grandpa trying to pimp out his daughter-in-law to one of the players oh geez yeah yeah but yeah so so it's awkward so dead dad dead grandpa uh

alive mom is what we got here okay and then grandson all male authority figures dead yes so billy haywood the kid is the heir to the minnesota twins so when grandpa dies he gets the twins he gets the twins he gets gets the twins. He gets the Metrodome. He gets everything. What I want to talk about real quick, Heath, is the inheritance tax that this kid would be on the hook for. Now, I couldn't find any 1994 dollar values on the Minnesota twins, right? Okay? But we're going to look at it with a 2022 lens okay heath so if this if this had happened in 2022 the minnesota team's selling for like

four million four or four billion so the minnesota twins uh according to to what i could find now granted these are just guesstimates but according to what i could find – now, granted, these are just guesstimates, but according to what I could cobble together, the Minnesota Twins are worth $1.35 billion with a B. Okay. Billion. Yep, that makes sense. Yeah. Sports franchises are now in the billions. So you're looking at roughly like 46% of an inheritance tax or an estate tax or whatever they call it. You're looking at – with state, local, all that wrapped up together, you're looking at like 46%.

So if his grandpa dies and then gives him the Minnesota Twins, this kid is on the hook for a tax bill of 500 million dollars so i'm the there's gotta be some kind of like trust or something built in so that this that's what i mean like the grandpa was a smart guy you would you would think so you would think he's he's wealth he he pisses on poor people you would think that he's smart enough that he would set up some kind of trust which i'm assuming he would so yeah and the trust would the the denver broncos are running into this issue or ran into this issue um this offseason where pat boland passed away i think two years ago something like that and he's got like six like five or six kids and they're all fighting over they were all fighting over who could control

the team they couldn't come to an agreement so now they're just gonna sell yes yeah for like five billion dude you you know that right like four or five billion that's what like they're thinking oh yeah it'll it'll it'll end up being more than that it'll it'll i it'll it'll be like eight i would imagine seven or eight especially now that's why they had to do the russell uh russell wilson trade too right like you gotta that's not what i show well but like it helps with the sale of the team when you're gonna sell out tickets every year because you're competitive well yeah i mean it doesn't hurt anything but i mean they would have sold perfectly fine if they would have left everything in place but anyway yeah i'm fine with never talking about the broncos

again brandon i'm still bitter about that super bowl they won against the packers it's a fucking hell can we talk about the movie yeah sorry keep going don't i'm just i'm just lamenting i was in this situation though would be a lot less uh stressful because there's only one kid we got one kid to worry about billy and a mom who's just like it's cool it's chill he can run yeah it's oh you want to own the team that's cool oh you want to coach the team even better yeah um so so that's what happens next so billy he gets ownership of the twins he uh fires the coach because the coach uh didn't want him to trade for ricky henderson so he fires the coach doesn't end

up trading for ricky henderson and then um did you like how he was trying to coach the coach about yelling he's like you know this same thing happened in math and i just lost all confidence in my long division yeah it's uh that was great that was a great line there's some there's some great lines but i mean again no offense to luke edwards but he does not deliver them with any emotional weight whatsoever it's just straight monotone yeah he has a deadpan delivery for like everything like even the most emotional of moments but that's why he made a good uh mlb manager brandon he's not gonna rise and fall with people he's gonna stay he did he did rise and that's that's the whole second half of the movie is him fucking becoming a dick. But so he names himself Coach after he fires the previous coach.

Wait, hold on. Sorry. One last thing about the coach getting fired. Did you see that the coach stole the toilet paper from the office bathroom? And the pencils. Yeah. And the pencils. And he was leaving.

I got. That was great. I would have done the same thing. Would have done the same thing. Yeah. But yeah, so he names himself Coach. And I love how everybody's like, no, this is not a good idea. And Billy's only, like, retort is, I mean, we could use the publicity.

You know? Like, even if I fail, you know, it could be good publicity. And there's a DH in in the american league brandon how hard could it be i mean fair enough fair enough you know i'll just heath you know what just pitch wedman you're good to go yeah that's all you got to do it's easy yeah um but so so did you imagine being one of the players though like i actually did feel really bad like you you spend your whole life like desperately clawing to make it to the major leagues and then a fucking 12 year old is your coach and then he cuts you he fucking cuts yeah oh poor jerry that that scene is just

heart-wrenching but that's where the spiral started you know like bill you needed some some emotional support like number one billy should have had a therapist traveling with him the amount of pressure like cutting 12 year old jesus yeah like why is he cutting people the gm or or the pitching or mac but mac to be fair mac tried to do it but billy was like nah i got I got it. Oh, that's what he did. Yeah. Okay. Still though, Mac.

So he volunteered. Don't take no for an answer here, Mac. Yeah. But so, yes, names himself coach. And then the rest of the movie is going through the season, the trials and tribulations, right? They go through ups and downs. They start winning. Then they start losing.

Everybody said yes. And downs they start winning then they start losing everybody said yes and then they start winning again and then they're one one went away from the playoffs and they play the seattle mariners heath which that's another thing i want to point out the amount of actual major league baseball players they got to be in this movie is mind fucking blowing i love it i loved everything i thought they did such a good job with the baseball scenes they had rafael palmero when they when they were playing the rangers they had paul o'neill when he was playing the yankees um tim raines uh chris burman the radio the the announcers in this fucking movie and then you had the entire seattle mariners 1994 baseball team which included randy johnson ken raff Griffey Jr. I'm pretty sure I

saw Edgar Martinez running around somewhere absolutely I was cheering for Billy and his team to lose as a kid because who would not want I had a Ken Griffey I had no no I still have it no sane kid no sane person who grew up in the 90s watching major league baseball is ever gonna root against ken griffey jr the dude's a national fucking treasure yeah ken griffey jr and the big unit randy johnson i had a randy johnson starting lineup and i it's still in the box i have a ken griffey jr like barbie doll it's like still in the box it's fucking awesome i love those guys they're the fucking best yeah the seattle sports teams in the 90s no one can at me at the seattle sports teams in the 90s the super sonics with

kemp and peyton and detlef schrempf oh my gosh if the sonics just would not have paid McIlvain all that money and just given it to Sean Kemp he may not have become like a crazy alcoholic lunatic on the Cleveland Cavaliers it's a real oh you would hope not you know well you'd hope not he might still have like the 15 kids but he maybe he wouldn't you know crater out due to cocaine and alcohol abuse. I mean, there's worse ways to crater out. Hey, nothing wrong with doing a little tutor and having a good time, Brandon, but let's just not do it while we're playing professional basketball. Are you fucking kidding me? That's the best time to do it.

Yeah, right. Dude, have you ever heard of Len Bias? That's it. Yeah, right. Dude, have you ever heard of Len Bias? That's it. He wasn't playing when it happened. Yeah, but still. You've got to be careful. You do it in moderation, but you do it while you're playing

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when he tried to pull the big scary picture um in in favor of hours the dude with all the chew okay i was just gonna say the dude who we see preparing for the game in a scene that would never ever ever happen today but it was one of my favorites where he is taking a small string of bubble gum and wrapping it around the biggest chunk of tobacco chew that I've ever seen someone put into their jaw. And like, do you, do you know how to like, do you know how to pack?

Like, like do the finger to like pack your jaw? Was that a thing? Oh yeah. Yeah. I never, I never took part in any tobacco chewing because it's it just disgusted me the first time i ever did it i threw up for like three days oh i got the spins really bad but i did i did

it one and done i someone gave me a pouch and i thought i was gonna barf everywhere so i never did it again the powder the pouches are intense dude. It'll just hit you right in the face. Could you imagine, like, that size of a thing of chew and then going out and pitching a Major League Baseball game? Like, good God, how do you even concentrate on throwing the ball 100 miles an hour? Yeah. The amount that he put in his mouth was the size of a fucking baseball dude yeah it's huge as a jawbreaker yeah it was absolutely insane that was i love that i love that but then the catcher who ignored the you know the hit and run from the first game when and then billy stood up for him and took the heat on that it's like oh no should have ran a hit and

run i guess um and then to have the catcher stick up for him and took the heat on that. He's like, oh, no, should have ran a hit and run, I guess. And then to have the catcher stick up for him, I thought that was great. It was a real nice move. Bowers in, classic Bowers. I want to talk about Bowers for a second because he's fucking ridiculous. With the water balloons? Yeah, he's like the – he's not yeah he's like the he's like the he's not really a hippie but he like i don't know he's like the new wave kid because he like talks super he's just got

really weird phrases he's very like enlightened or whatever yeah but i love so this happens later on in the movie when they're i forget if they're playing the mariners or not but he has the the uh the rollins the pump up glove did you ever play baseball did you play baseball as a kid or just basketball yeah yeah i was i didn't have the patience for baseball they kept putting me in the outfield and i would just be i was lost i would start daydreaming out there i played baseball all the way to about until i was like 17 years old 16 17 years old um um but that the fucking the the rollins pump up glove dude that was like the fucking end all be all when in like the mid mid and late 90s like that was the glove you wanted it was so fun and the pump up doesn't do any fucking thing it doesn't do a goddamn thing i don't know why it's there who thought of it but it's you know like bowers uses it as like

a good luck thing he like pumps it up throws the ball and then he's like oh shit it's working okay i'll keep doing dude they need to bring the pumps back do you think they maybe they did and i just missed it like the nike pumps those need to come i think the nike the nike pumps are back i think yeah they're well they're probably charging like $200 for them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But fucking Bauer's the pump-up glove. And then the way he talks, he's the one who solves the math problem, right? They do the math problem in the middle of the –

He needs to pass his math test. There's this one problem Billy's having, so he brings it out on the chalkboard for everybody to do. And Bauer solves it, and they ask him, like, how did you know that was the answer? Do you remember what he says? No. No. What did he say?

He says, I'm well-versed in the exactitudes of the mathematical world. Yes. of the mathematical world. Oh, yes. And then he shoots over to Mac and solves the riddle that Mac has been chewing on for the entire movie, which is a cowboy rides into town on Friday, stays for three days, and leaves on Friday. How did he do it? Horse's name is Friday, Brandon. nailed it crushed it yeah bowers he's

just a real soothsayer he he was a great great part of the movie yeah he's there he's the enlightened one he's he's he gets it you know he he just gets uh one of the other scenes that i absolutely loved with the trio of kids and i think lol might have been there is when billy is really stressed out and they're eating at mcdonald's and they're like do you think batman ever ate at mcdonald's or kfc like dude the batmobile in the drive-thru the cape crusader doesn't eat fast food lol wasn't there that was just uh just the three of them just it's a chuck and chuck and let's say the kid's name joey chuck and joey yeah and um i so i love that and then the other part of like the the thing when he just walks out on on berman when berman asked him a bad question i got a

fucking job to do chris okay oh god because he he pulled a berman on him right because like chris berman's known for being a massive dick on set yeah yeah he pulls that was a good one where he's like i i'm not sure how to answer the question here chris actually i'm not even sure there is a question i got a fucking job to do okay and then he like rips off the mic yes yes it was it was so good all right speaking of bowers bowers is the one who like gets billy convinced to watch a little movie called night nurses from jersey yeah okay that part i was laughing so hard how he calls his buddies yeah so he's he's in he's in a hotel room on a road trip right bowers tells him about night nurses of jersey night nurses in jersey whatever it is which yeah and billy thinks that you can just yeah and billy thinks you can just order these movies and no one will find out.

Yeah, obviously. How wrong he is. He orders the porn and then he calls his buddies on the hotel phone and holds it up to the TV so they can listen. Yeah, and then he's like, oh, hold on. I got to go. They've got a new patient oh my god what a fucking and then when he was sleeping the whole next game and like the guys were like uh-oh another victim of the night nurses from jersey yeah so the best the best is when his mom gets

the bill right oh my god and she she holds it up and she's and she's like looking at it with him and she goes five times in one night huh some really excellent acting in that one this fucking man what uh it was so good but like not as good as i remember i don't know. There's definitely some hilarious parts. Bowers is fantastic. There's some great parts. And it's like a, you know, it's a 90s baseball. It's very nostalgic, you know. How can you not be romantic about baseball?

You know? Yeah. And, like, this movie, Rookie of the Year, Angels in the Outfield, Little Giants, Heavyweights. Like they just they made a ton of these. Yeah, the big green. It's not a sports movie, but even like blank check, right? Like the Mighty Ducks movies, you know, like they all kind of fell into Sandlot. You know, like all these.

Oh, you did. Well, you know what I mean anyway what was your point the point is that like this is just another one of the many multitude of these movies that were made between 92 and 98 they all kind of had like the same feel in the same flow yep so you know what i mean yeah yeah and that's yeah it's it's very um formulomatic but um yeah and yeah i i remember as a as a kid it hits you know as a kid i remember loving this movie um coming back to it now though not as not as good as you remember this one doesn't hold up like some of the like some of the other ones you mentioned like the mighty ducks i we think still holds up

obviously um sandlot for sure holds up if you anybody tells me the sandlot doesn't hold up you're a fucking liar um yeah those those movies hold up whereas this one this was definitely the the bottom of the barrel of these types of movies yeah but fun to revisit for a little bit of nostalgia not something you're gonna watch regularly no no i doubt i will ever watch this movie again but it was it was it was interesting uh for the podcast it was fun you know yeah it really was it really was and it was fun to get like the multiple like spotting of the the ducks you know characters in there and then just you know a youthful exuberance oh dude i like i mentioned we did we did i chose this movie because brock pierce young gordon is in it i had completely forgotten that john beasley was in it

and when he showed up i fucking lost my mind i was like oh my god it's mr hall yeah he just and he did such a good job with his with his role in the movie i love that so i mean that with that being said heath how many are you ready to give it give it a rating how many cakes you going to give it? Yeah, I think as much as I enjoy this movie for its nostalgia, like I said, we own this on VHS. So even watching it back, I remembered this blow for blow. I kind of quit paying attention towards the end because I even remembered some of the lines that they were saying, cause I watched it so much as a kid. So I'm going to give it like a nice little 2.2 cakes because it was good. But, you know,

like we said, comparatively to all the other youth sports movies that were coming out during these like early to mid nineties, it's not on the same level as some of the others. Absolutely. I agree with you there. It's, it's the bottom of the barrel of these types of movies. It's not on the same level as some of the others. Absolutely. I agree with you there. It's the bottom of the barrel of these types of movies. It's like if you're a huge baseball fan, maybe give it a shot.

Sure. Well, if you're a Twins fan, this is a no-brainer. If you're a Twins fan, go ahead and watch it. If you're a Mariners fan, pop if you're a twins fan, go ahead and watch it. If you're a Mariners fan, pop it in and then fast forward to the end. It's nice. It's nice watching Ken Griffey and his prime,

just being a real piece of work to the strut, the fucking wink after he hits the home run. That was amazing. Oh my God. I just, that Ken Griffey swing was everyone wanted to do it but no one could do it and it made a lot of kids my age not good at baseball oh dude i used to fucking uh because i i was a i was a pitcher when i played baseball yeah okay i used to whenever like you would watch the the kids like practice whatever whenever i saw somebody like swing like that i was like

my eyes got all big i was like this dude's gonna fucking strike out every goddamn time this is gonna be the greatest thing ever yeah you're gonna fan him because he's going for home runs and he can't even fucking put the stick on the ball throw him a little curveball that little little uppercut thing he's not gonna be able to touch it you know yeah nah just gonna just gonna sweep right up underneath it yeah so god i miss i i fucking miss ken griffey jr dude yeah he was that was that was the i think we could get him on the pod i'll i'll i'll slide into the dms maybe we can get him on the pod yeah let's let's see what we can do but yeah anyways yeah it was a nice little two. What did I say? 2.3 or 2.1?

You said 2.2. 2.2. 2.2. Okay. Right in the center. What do you think, Brandon? What are you giving this bad boy? So I'm going to be, as usual, I'm going to be a little harsher on this.

Like we said, bottom of the barrel for these types of movies. If you want to watch a baseball movie, there's way better movies. If you want to watch a kid's sports movies, there's way better movies. If you haven't already seen this movie, I don't know if I would recommend you to go see it. It's not that great. I'm going to give it a 1.8. Okay. I figured that was coming.

It's not the best made movie. But this had son-in-law written all over it for me, too, where it just had so much youthful nostalgia that I could overlook every blemish. I think I rated son-in-law higher than this, didn't I? You should, because son-in-law is all I could think of. From now on, that like the bar to be set for the rest of these movies we break down oh yeah i gave i gave i gave son-in-law two points you so yeah son-in-law slightly better well it's it's definitely underrated on on your end but but yeah so 2.2 from you heath 1.8 from me um okay it was a great nostalgia trip down memory lane for for me but you know you're you're okay never watching this movie if you haven't seen

it before yeah and if you want to you know what's the the the lead actor if you want to, you know, what's the lead actor, if you want to see him in his best movies. You and fucking Newsies, dude. You really got to see him in Newsies. Man, it's just Bill, good old Luke Edwards. What movie do you like more, Son-in-Law or Newsies? Oh, man, that's Newsies for for sure newsies for sure wow okay yeah yeah you heard it here easy if if i'm giving newsies a cake rating brandon i would say it's probably like a four seven five out of five okay damn yeah damn yeah the the newsies is that's true

we probably should have mentioned for any new listeners. The cake rating is out of five out of five. Yeah. Yeah. Out of five cakes out of five cakes, but yeah, it's just the, between the songs,

the songs are so good. You'll be singing those in your head for months afterwards. All right. Anyway, but yeah, little big league, Minnesota twins. They almost made their Cinderella story, but the team

of the nineties, Ken Griffey and the big unit shut them down. thanks for listening everyone please remember to follow and like us on Instagram at TheCakeEatersPod, on Twitter at TheCakeEaters. Also reach out to us via email, TheCakeEatersPod at gmail.com or visit our website, TheCakeEatersPod.com.