The Cake Eaters - 34. Birth of an NHL Team

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

Heath & Brandon discuss the timeline from movie to puck drop, the rocky operations of the NHL, how much of a behemoth the Mighty Ducks merch machine was, the best Ducks of all-time, and everything else involved with making the Mighty Ducks an actual hockey team. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

Remember, it's not worth winning if you can't win! Hello everybody, welcome back to the Cake Eaters podcast, your definitive Mighty Ducks podcast. Today, we're going to take a little bit of a slight turn and we're going to talk not about the movies, but we're going to talk about what the movies spawned. Right. The legacy of these movies, which is incredibly an actual pro hockey team, Heath. Absolutely mind-blowing that an NHL franchise, I like how you said spawned too, so I'm going to say that, spawned from a Disney classic. Yes.

It's unreal. So it spawned from a... And everything happened so quick like looking back i was like uh like back i was like oh you know this thing took some time that you know it get the movie gathered a bunch of stuff over a couple years and then they built a team that's not what happened this shit went quick when i was looking at these dates. Disney was in a hurry. Yeah. And they were just, they saw the dollar signs and they just started grabbing as quick and fast

as they could. Same with the NHL, the NHL. I don't know how, well, I mean, how this all happens. We'll explain a lot about the current state of the NHL and

how, how you, you have the, the financial state of some of these teams that they have, because the NHL is just, it has to be the most, I'm not, I wouldn't say poorly run sports organization. Cause it's, I mean, they're still making money. They're still around, but it's the most ridiculously run. And they have had some, like, really bad lockouts. Like, the NHL lockouts have been blemishes on the league.

Like, huge blemishes. And then you have the Arizona Coyotes who are bleeding the taxpayers of Glendale, Arizona dry. Yeah. Keep the team there. It's. And then you have like all the, the old teams, like the Atlanta thrashers that that was a whole mess. There's,

there's just, there's a lot of, there's a lot of blemishes and a lot of, a lot of, what are you thinking when you look at the business model of the NHL? It's it's rough stuff, but I know you have a timeline for us brandon so let me set you up ladies and gentlemen welcome to a brief history of the anaheim ducks

and so like i mentioned i got a little timeline here because when i was looking back at these dates i was like everything happened so quick hot quick, hot and fast, hot and fast, right out, right out the gate. We were ready to roll. So you have the, the original Mighty Ducks movie D1, right? Do you remember when that was released? Yeah, I do. It was 1990. Yes. October, October,ober 1992 early october 1992 when you hear 92 do you always think of like columbus sails the ocean blue the do you remember like 1492 columbus the nina the like how you

remember those i i know yeah i don't really think of that when i say 1992 though oh that just always comes back in my head anyway sorry sorry i that always just, that just always comes back to my head. Anyway. Sorry. Sorry. I, that always just popped, that just popped in my head. It's like, Oh man, they always would like when Columbus sailed the ocean blue. And yeah, anyways,

sorry. I digress. Anyway, 1992, the mighty ducks, the masterpiece early October. Yeah. Early October,

1992. It's released in theaters, right? Then you have December 1992 is when Disney pays the NHL an expansion fee for a new hockey team, right? So October to December, Heath. Two months.

Yeah, that's how long it took for them to be like, let's do a hockey team. Sounds good. We're looking to expand. Do you remember what they were referred to as in 1993? When they unveiled the team, yeah, the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.

Yeah, I thought that was great. It's just not like every other team in the history of teams. Because they're more importantly the Mighty Ducks. Anaheim is just Anaheim, you know? Yeah, they're the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim. It's just Anaheim should feel, you know, hashtag grateful that they can just be attached to the Ducks name.

Well, the reason they're in Anaheim is because that's the that's the quarters of disney um i just thought it was funny that they reversed the order of it yeah and people may baseball people may may notice that at this same time disney also owned uh well i don't know if it was right at the same time but in the same general time frame of the mid-90s they also owned the anaheim angels of major league baseball oh my word brandon angels in the outfield are you kidding me another another movie another fucking movie yeah oh my that movie so that absolutely does that have ducks ties that the angels in the outfield because remember i don't think so wave he would wave like an angel when he saw an angel playing with the oh man kids go out there and parents make sure your kids are watching angels in the outfield that was a great one that

was another one of those that we had bro oh my god yes yeah donald uh not donald danny glover danny glover crushed it tony Danza dude Oh my word I just I love that movie that was another Rare like VHS that we Actually owned that was That was another one just like the Dex So it has a special place in my heart

That and the Pagemaster remember that Macaulay Culkin That was a good one For the Angels I'd have to go double check dates. But I wonder if the Angels and the Outfield came out before or after they owned the team. I want to say after, but I'd have to double check. But anyway, so they also owned the Angels around the same time. So they're in the sports business.

Disney is fully entrenched in the sports business. So Mighty Ducks, I'm going to say this again because it's mind-blowing. The Mighty Ducks movie came out in October. They paid the expansion fee in December. I think it was 50 mil. 50 mil. Yep, 50 mil. Which, if you – was about the box office gross of the movie. It's about 50 million.

Not bad. Happy coincidence. So just that time frame, it took two months for them to decide. And I guarantee you it was just, I'd have to do some more research into this. But the NHL was looking to expand regardless of that time. That time frame

was the NHL was looking at beforehand. of that time like that that time frame was the nhl was looking at beforehand i think it was just a happy coincidence that the movie came out and then they were like oh let's just name it after the fucking movie i love everything about that though because i remember so i was six years old as a kid when this happened and i remember being slightly confused by it right because it's like the mighty ducks came out and I was like, Holy shit. The mighty ducks are, is like the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. But then the ducks of Anaheim also came out and I was like, wait a second. Like it was a whole chicken and egg type of thing.

Cause this was pre internet and I was like six and seven. And so it was like, what came first, the chicken or the egg? Was it the movie or the team? But here, once and for all, it was the movie first. Well, so along the time, so October 1992, the movie comes out. December, they pay the expansion fee. And then March 1st 1993 they unveiled the team name and the logos they're like

we're going to be the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim here's the new logo and then that fall of 1993 they start playing right yeah that's their first season then D2 comes out 1994 yeah and D2 they've got

the whole Ducks, Unis. So they came out with the original movie, they announced the team name, they reveal new logos when they announced the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim. It's new logos. So you're like, okay, it's the movie, but it's not really the

movie because it's new logos. And then that's when they hit you in D2 when they bring out the, they're wearing the new logos. So it's all wrapped up. And then that's when they hit you in D2 When they bring out the They're wearing the new logos So it's all wrapped up And then D3 you have Charlie Conway Breaking the fourth wall He mentions that the Mighty Ducks

Of Anaheim exist In the Mighty Ducks universe And they named a team They legitimately named the team after The Junior Goodwill team it's the great fourth wall break I love it all I love it even though D3

is not necessarily my favorite we've talked about that a couple times but man that ending when they became the Ducks is great yeah yeah and he so he breaks the fourth wall when he's talking to the girl he's mentioning they named a team now for us and then he's also throughout the movie he's carrying around a oh, they named a team now for us. And then he's also, throughout the movie, he's carrying around a book that has

the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim logo on it. Oh, I love it all. But like, speaking of Disney and owning the team, I hope this doesn't mess up your timeline, but Disney no longer owns the team. In 05, they sold it,

and that's when they changed the name to the Anaheim Ducks instead of the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim. Yes. They still do use the logo. The old logos. Yeah. I believe it's on their shoulder. Yeah. But they changed it up to like, I do not like orange.

They changed the colors. Yeah. It's orange. I don't mind it. I don't mind the orange. Their jerseys are a mess. They're real. There's a lot of needless striping, and it's a mess.

But I don't mind the colors. I'm not a big fan. Like, unless the Bengals can pull it off, because they've got those badass tiger helmets. Like, everyone loves a fucking tiger. But, you know, I just do not dig in the orange and the black, you know, especially after Tiger King. Remember that in quarantine? That was a dark day in American history. I never watched Tiger King. Oh, you missed

out. Yeah, it's too late now. Oh, it is far too late. I would not recommend it. It's not worth it. But yeah, so Disney sold the team in 2005. They no longer own the team. They're not the Mighty Ducks anymore. They're just the Anaheim Ducks. There's a bunch of chatter for them to bring

back the original logo. They need to. Permanently. Either in the old colors or in the new colors. Last year, they brought back the Wild Wing jerseys for the reverse retro thing that the NHL did, which was pretty nice. So anyway, so

I've got some jersey stuff if you want to jump into that for a second. One thing I want to talk about before we get there is I want to talk about the finances. So we mentioned the box office gross was around $50 million for the movie. $50 million was the expansion fee that the NHL paid

or that the Disney paid the NHL to start the expansion fee that the nhl paid um or that the the disney paid the nhl to just to start the team exactly do you so that was 1992 50 million dollars to start your own nhl team the seattle kraken are a brand new nhl team that started this year give a do you want to venture a guess at what their expansion fee was? $150 million? $650 million. Holy shit. Yikes. Oh, man.

I wish I still lived in Seattle, though. I would go to a lot of Kraken games if I stayed in Seattle. Yeah. When I was there, because they announced the team when I was living there. And so I signed up for the season ticket wait list or whatever but then then i moved so i know i'm i'm still when when the ghost pirates launch here in savannah next year i'm gonna be all about it yeah dude i'm gonna be decked out in ghost pirate care but anyways um keep going on your timeline so i wanted i just wanted to point out that that describes it good old inflation you know yeah yikes because it's ugly head but so then I also

you mentioned they so Disney sold it in 2005 they sold the team in 2005 do you know you want to take a picture I guess at how much they sold the team for in 2005 oh man um 950 million oh you're way off dude 650 70

million dollars oh yikes yeah they made made 20 mil Oh, you're way off, dude. $650? $70 million. Oh, yikes. Yeah. They made 20 mil. If you're just going off of initial investment versus what they sold it for. Well, because teams now are going for, I guess it was 05, 06. I was a bad guess. I was doing an inflation guess. I don't think teams like started skyrocketing value until like the 2010s.

Okay. And then that's when the major TV money started. Yeah. And so 2005, like you mentioned the lockouts, 2005 was fresh off of a lockout. Yeah. 2004, 2005 was the big, they shut the NHL down for the whole season yeah so that that's going to kill your value a little bit there yeah 100 and was probably a leading factor in them cutting you know selling the team um but so so i wanted to point out that i was read a couple articles that had a bunch of quotes about how disney kind of ran the team um and all of them are essentially saying uh it was just a marketing like i love that they don't they weren't really like after like wins and stuff they were just

they were it was it was a way to to market and and sell merchandise and boy did they do that oh nice so yeah for first year out of the gate they were the number one they had the number one uh they were the number one team in merchandise sales nice um and then uh at one point during the disney ownership they were they accounted for roughly 80 80 80 of all NHL merchandise sales. That's unbelievable. It's insane. So they were raking in money on merchandise, which makes sense because I mean, I have,

I'm not a Ducks fan and I have ridiculous amounts of Mighty Ducks merchandise. Same. Yeah. So there's a quote that says they cared more about saving their money and getting a good return on their marketing investment than they did in winning a championship.

And then my, my favorite thing is, so if you go back on YouTube, you can find videos of the first ever mighty ducks game, which was the first ever home game that they played in Anaheim, which was on October, 1993. Right. Yeah. ducks game which was the first ever home game that they played in anaheim which was on uh october 1993 right yeah the pre-game show that they did for this game was roughly 20 minutes long i think it was longer than 20 minutes and it was essentially disney on ice like they had oh

they had disney characters on the ice like skating. And it was 20 minutes. Nothing to do with hockey. Nothing to do with the team. It's just Disney characters skating on the ice for 20 minutes before the game. Oh, my God. I highly recommend to go on YouTube and find that video because it's amazing. I love that. Wait, hold on. Sorry, not to put you on the spot, but do you have in your timeline where the cartoon falls in all this?

The Mighty Ducks specific cartoon yes so so d1 was 92 the team was 90 started in 93 d2 was 94 d3 was 96 and then right after d3 i forget if it was either 96 or 97 was the cartoon okay but cartoon was yeah, it was kind of a dumpster fire, but I remember watching it as a kid. Bananas, dude. Bananas. And that's where you get wild wing though,

is, is the, the, for, for the Jersey's you get, he's, he's the main character in the cartoon. Yeah.

I love it. And you know, when I was, went back to my parents' house, I'm pretty sure I found like one of the old toys from the happy meals. It might've been like BK, like one of the old toys from the happy meals they might have been like bk like one of the old like from the from the duck cartoon yeah yeah that cartoon was fucking wild but yeah the cartoon came out like pretty much right after d3 okay okay but so so yeah so the disney sells the team in uh in 05 and then in in the 2006-2007 season, the Ducks end up winning the Stanley Cup.

They beat the Ottawa Senators. And that's their first and only Stanley Cup victory. Yeah, that's their only victory. While they were owned by Disney, they did go to a Stanley Cup in 2003. But they lost. To our boy. Our boy, Mike R Rupp Famously known Yeah

For the Danbury Trashers Trash me up baby Mike Rupp And our boy Jimmy There's the timeline for the Ducks there Just Just a whirlwind Of fucking timing like absolute chaos and then they and and then they were out in so what's that 13 years they were like peace we're

done yeah we made we made all we could and like on it in the the lockout hit and they're like cool we've we we see a a lost uh lost cause when cause when we, when we got one. And so they just, it's like sunken costs out of our portfolio. I should have looked into this, but I, and that, I think shoot, that's about the same time they sold the angels, the baseball team too. I think they were just like, okay, we're, we're out of, we're out of sports. Yeah. Let's cut our losses. Until they dove back in and bought bought ESPN and ABC and everything.

Yeah, but I mean like owning sports. They've owned ESPN for I think they owned ESPN while this was going on. Yeah. But yeah, they cut their sports portfolio pretty hard there. it's just such a crazy

like with 13 years, the internet. I would love to, I should have looked into this. If there's even public numbers about this, about how much money they made on merch, because they sold so much of it. They were selling it.

You could go to Disney and buy mighty ducks gear. Like they were selling it everywhere. I love it. It's they need to bring more ducks, more ducks and more supersonics gear. gear. Those are the two teams that we need more classic Ducks gear, and I personally need much more Sonics gear. Like I mentioned, last year they brought back a take on the Wild Wing jersey. So the team was selling a bunch of retro stuff last year. Yeah, we can't be dropping like 150 bucks on those jerseys, man.

I don't buy a jersey. They had everything. T-shirt jerseys. I love those little T-shirts. I'm sure you could have got like a coaster with wild wing on it or a koozie. I love a good koozie too. For the beach. Yeah.

I do have some fun facts for you too, too brandon do you want me to give you some fun facts do you know who the first coach of the mighty ducks of anaheim was oh so so i wrote down i didn't write down coach i wrote down uh their first expansion draft player their first entry draft player i think i do remember the coach though is it ron wilson it was ron wilson i don't know anything about him other than he was the first coach in team history yeah um he was uh i think he played nhl for the nhl a while ago um but he was uh he's been a scout um and a coach a couple different places, too, I think. I just remember because when I was looking at the first picks and stuff, I remember seeing that name, Ron Wilson.

Ron Wilson. I only did one of the picks, so you might have to bless us with the other one. But I have the fourth overall pick, Paul Correa, who turns out to be the face of the franchise for many years to come. Yes. Paul Korea is a fantastic hockey player. Yeah, he was, he killed it,

but yeah, he was their first. So, so they're, they had the expansion draft when they started, where they picked players from other teams. Yeah. And then after that, they had entry draft where they picked rook from other teams. Yeah. And then after that, they had an entry draft where they picked rookies.

And that's where they picked Paul Kriya in fourth overall. Their first expansion draft pick, so essentially the first Duck player ever, and I'm going to mess it up because it's a French name. Okay. His name's Guy. Okay, nice. Love that.

And I'm going to mess up his last name. I think his last name is Herbert. It's H E B E R T. Herbert. Guy Hebert. So he was, he's a goalie. He was their first ever draft pick. First ever Ducks player. And now he's on the, he broadcast games for him. He's like one of the color commentators. Oh, nice. That's super fun. Keeping it in the family. I love that. Once a duck,

always a duck, Heath. Man, quack, quack, quack, Mr. Duxworth. But I think my favorite wrinkle in all this is that Paul Correa led the Ducks to the 03 Stanley Cup Finals where they then

Lost to the Mike Rep Led New Jersey Devils who then Went on to go play for the Danbury Trashers who were Who AJ was the General manager and the only reason he was Is because of the Mighty Ducks full circle wow

What a journey we just went on. I think we can, we can end the podcast right there. It's a beautiful thing. Well, before we end the podcast, so we just have to shout out the wild wing. I meant like in the podcast altogether. It's over. It's it's we've hit our lion King moment. This has been the circle of life, Brandon. It's beautiful.

Hakuna Matata. Hakuna Matata. I do love Wild Wing as their mascot. I just have to say, I think it's a great mascot. Great design. Just, you know, as a former mascot myself, I sign off on that. Well, yeah, because it's based on the cartoon character what

other mascot is based on a cartoon character none and that wild wing character in the cartoon is badass you know yeah he was the leader he was who was he voiced by he was voiced by one of the one of the dudes from 90210 i'm gonna blank on well while you're doing that, I've got a fun jersey fact for you. And if this is incorrect, you know, fuck off Wikipedia. So that's who I'm quoting here. So they've worn three unique regular jerseys and five unique third jerseys in their franchise history. That's what it says. Yeah, that sounds about right

They have they started off with The jerseys that They don't debut But the Ducks come out DT with And those will forever be My favorite my personal favorite Ducks jerseys the

93 to 06 white Home jerseys, the 93 to 06 white home jerseys, the originals. Yep. And that'll always be my favorite. They had, and then they also had a, um, Nike designed their uniforms for a couple of years and they had like a different, um, they added a little bit of yellow, like the yellow from the sticks. They added that into the Jersey and it was all like top, um, like the yellow from the sticks. They added that into the jersey

and it was all like top sleeve on top of the sleeve designs. Interesting. Yeah. It wasn't totally different, but different. And then there was, they had black in there too.

And I liked that one where they did like a little bit of black with the classic logo. Yeah. That was one of the alternates. And then obviously when they introduced the names and the colors, bit of black with the classic logo yeah that was one of the alternates and then uh the obviously when they finished the names and the colors they uh went to black orange and gold as their colors and so they had um they had a black jersey that said that had like the a duck's word mark on the

front that was that's a good one too that's not a good jersey it's the word come on you can't word you shouldn't have a word mark on front word mark on the front of your hockey jersey. It's just garbage. But that was the one they won the Stanley Cup in. And then what they've changed to now is they have part of that Ducks word mark ago was a D that was in the shape of a webbed foot. Yeah. And so that is their main logo now it's

the the webbed d yeah and that's sorry i'm assuming they get the orange and stuff from i just don't like orange i don't know i mean they only use orange they use orange as a trim color it's not their their main jersey is still black i just if it ain't broke don't fix it brandon like why in the actual f did they switch away from those old unis in the first place like it doesn't make any sense to me like they have the best unis in the NHL and then they they just went

to some fucking black and orange I don't know if I'd call them I don't know if I'd call those the best jerseys in the NHL Ian Ziering though is the the voice of Wild Wing Ian Ziering from Sharknado fame, 90210. Oh, okay. There we go.

Yeah, I don't know if I called those jerseys the best jerseys in the NHL. The NHL has a lot of good jerseys. I don't know, Brandon. I just don't know if I can agree with you there. The main point to that is that they shouldn't have switched from the what what was the color you yelled at me about in our first ever podcast eggplant jade eggplant and shade yep so you go from eggplant and jade to orange and black the big downgrade yeah it's almost like going from black and blue to orange and blue

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American made and built to outlast the fast fashion trends. They also plant a tree in Boulder, Colorado for every product sold. Visit broken forest co.com and use the code cake eaters 15 for 15% off your order. So really quick, I was pulling up bleacher report, Brandon, and I found a ranking of the 2010. So it's a, it's just a bit dated 2010. Okay. Yeah. Just a bit dated there. Okay. Okay. So 2010. Okay. Just a bit dated there. Okay. So 2010. Crazy.

It's 12 years ago. And it's three years after they won the cup. Okay. And what did you say it was? What's the list? Well, it was like a top 25, but I just did the top three. And it's from Bleacher.

Top three players from Bleacher Report 2010. Do you want me to go three, two, one? Or do you want me to go one, two, three? Go one, two, three. One, two. Okay.

So Numero Uno, the top duck of Anaheim of all time. Even in 2010, I think it's pretty, this should be pretty unanimous.

This is, and forgive me if I say this wrong, Taimou Solani you got it close enough yeah tamu solani you're good tamu solani aka the finnish flash yeah that's a fucking nickname right there man the finnish flash um he was acquired at the trade deadline in 1995 and played um played into his 40s and it you know he's still playing in fucking 2010 when that article came out yeah he he retired not too long ago played uh for for a long time i think he retired not too long ago like 2016 2017 maybe i'm guessing at that number um the finish flash what a name finish flash dude yeah i love it all right so he's number one yeah absolutely

unanimous all right so number two we we mentioned number two previously he was their first ever draft pick number fourth overall our our boy, Paul Korea, Paul Korea. So I, and in this article and a little part of it, it says he's most remembered for getting like absolutely like destroyed in that championship game against the devils, but then coming back and playing,

he's a goal. He's a, he's a little guy. He's, he's real small. I want to, yeah. I forget exactly how small he is, but he's definitely, you could, he definitely got fucked up a lot for sure. But he's a fighter.

Just came back. Keep on swimming. Face of the franchise. Man, all Korea. He did not win in a Stanley Cup with them, though. He wasn't part of the 0-17. That's too bad. You hate to see it.

Yeah. You's too bad. You hate to see it. Yeah. Okay. Taimou got the Cup with him. That's true. That's very true. Shout out Taimou. Who's number three in 2010? Because 2010... If I was making this list right now,

I'm good with one and two. Taimou, Paul Correa, three I would put Ryan Getzlaff But This might be 2010 might be too young Because he's still playing now Yeah This article is 10 years old

But Ryan Getzlaff was playing In 2010 He was on the Stanley Cup winning team as well Oh nice This article is 10 years old. So it's a lot of time. But Ryan Gets Left was playing in 2010. He was on the Stanley Cup winning team as well. Oh, nice. He's been playing for a while. So I would put him as number three. But in 2010, I don't know if he would be number three. So for this particular article, they had a gentleman by the name of Scott Niedermeyer.

That's a weird one. Okay, so he beat them as a member of the Devils. Was he on the Stanley Cup team? Yes. So he beat them as a member of the Devils, then he joined them, and he played for five seasons,

including being a key member of the defensive minded championship team. What a, what a, what a turncoat Scott Niedermeyer. Yeah. Just let me win. And then let me, let me join the team that we beat. Kevin Durant moved there.

I was just going to say, that's just, that's what Kevin Durant did. Well, I, I, except he beat him. That's like if Steph Curry would have joined the Thunder after the Thunder, you know, after they beat the Thunder in that Western Conference Finals. But so according to 2010, those were your top three Anaheim Ducks. Does it say how long Scott Niedermeyer played for them? I don't think he played. Yeah, five seasons.

Five seasons. Okay. So, I mean, that's about the bare minimum in my eyes to be ranked in, like, the team's upper echelon of players. Like, you have at least five seasons. Anything less than that was just a fucking. Yeah. Do you have the whole article or just have the first? I mean, I have the full article here.

I just need to click a few buttons. I'm curious who number four is. I wonder if four is Getzloff. Steve Ruckin. Steve Ruckin. The Getzloff disrespect is pretty apparent here, I guess. I mean, then it's Jean-Sebastien Guier.

See, I would put, yeah, Jean-Giour. Yeah, I would put him above the other two, I think. He was the goalie. He won the Stanley Cup with them, and then he was also on the 0-3 team that lost to the Devils.

But yeah, the Getzloff disrespect. And then Guy Hebert is number six. Okay. Corey Perry is number seven. They have Corey Perry above Ryan Getzloff? And then number eight is Ryan Getzloff. Dude, who wrote this again the the ryan getzloff disrespect is hold on let me let me let me round out the top ten number nine is chris pronger i mean i don't even think he played five seasons for them he's another guy that was real in and out. And then yeah.

And then Rob Niedermeyer. Rob and Scott. Let me see who wrote this article. This is written by Tom Schrier. Okay, Tom. Me and Tom need to have a sit down here. September 16,

2010. Yeah, me and Tom from 2010 need to have a sit down here. Yeah. I need it. Well, me, me, September 16th, 2010. Yeah. Me and Tom from 2010. You'd have a sit down. Yeah. Listen up here. Fucking guy. Ryan should be way higher on that list though. Even,

even in 2010. Absolutely. Now I bet you, if you ask Tom now, Ryan gets left would probably be two or three. Well, we need to, We need to find this guy that wrote this article.

Crack him down. We'll get him on the pod. Maybe we'll get him and Ryan on the pod at the same time. Do a little three-way call. We definitely got to get Paul Correa on here. I would love to get Paul Correa. That would never happen.

We don't have the cachet to get Paul Correa But that would be fucking amazing We'll have our people Call his people Paul Correa is one of my Favorite hockey players of all time He was super small He was incredibly fast

And he had dangles For days Some dirty dangles for days. Oh, dude. Some dirty dangles, boys. He's fantastic. Hitting that top shelf cheddar, baby. If you're not familiar with Paul Korea, I'm sure you can go on YouTube and watch highlights. Just go watch Paul Korea highlights. He's amazing.

Oh, yeah. I think we maybe talked about this during quarantine going back in like the, you know, way back when in that 2020 quarantine going back and watching old NBA games or NHL games or any of that stuff. It was just gold. I know. Yeah. But yeah, Paul Curry was fantastic. He never, I don't think he ever won a Stanley cup though.

That was a bit disappointing. I was hoping he would get one. He even joined because he left Anaheim. He was on the team that lost in 03. And I think he left after that season or maybe the season after that. He played one season with the him. Both him and Tamu came over to the Avalanche at the same time. Nice.

They formed like a crazy, like you thought like LeBron and Chris Bosh and Dorian Wade was like stacking a deck. Go look at it. I think it's like the 05. It's either the 04 or the 05 Colorado Avalanche. That team was granted. They were all of the guys were like older,

like just past the prime, but that was a team of like assassins, dude. Like just all stars everywhere yeah they had joe sakic peter forsberg rob blake adam foot paul korea tamu solani they they they had like 10 like 10 all-stars just that and they they didn't end up winning the stanley cup you know but uh but that team that was that was like right before i think it was right before the lockout. So it would have been like the 03-04 avalanche. It was right before the lockout. And then that was one of the – after they came back from the lockout,

the NHL implemented a salary cap. So couldn't do that anymore. Couldn't top load the roster anymore. Yeah. But anyway, so those were my fun facts i don't know if you have anything else on on this one brandon but it was just kind of fun running through the history of the nhl franchise that was born due to the success of the movie it just disney saw the success and they were like hey we could just cash within a whole bunch of fucking checks

within two months they were like boom let's fucking do it let's make this happen this is about to be a cult classic that a couple schmoes are gonna make a podcast about in in 20 years 30 years oh fuck 30 years the only other fun fact i had was they went 33, 46, and 5 in that first season, which at the time was the record for the most wins by an expansion team. That's since been obliterated by the Vegas Golden Knights.

Who were so successful their first year that they changed the expansion draft rules, didn't they? No, the Kraken had the same exact rules. They just didn't do it as well. Well, because the Vegas expansion draft was a perfect

storm. After the last round of expansion, which was the early 2000s, which was Minnesota and Columbus, those expansion rules were real tough and both minnesota and columbus were trash for at least 10 years like they were because of how tough the expansion rules were they were not able to build a competitive team yeah so the nhl saw that

and they were like oh we can't we should not do that. And then they overcorrected. And then you had the overcorrection along with all of the GMs that Vegas took advantage of a bunch of the GMs because they were like, don't take this guy. We'll trade you these three guys to not take that guy, or we'll trade you four draft picks not to take that guy. So Vegas was able to wheel and deal and take advantage of the people. And so then when Seattle came around, all the GMs were like, we're not doing that again.

We're not letting you give us the runaround. Take the guys you're going to take, and we're going to protect the guys we want to protect, and you can figure it out from there. So yeah, the expansion, that's the whole thing. But yeah, so Vegas blew,

blew up the, the record for most ones. They made it to the Stanley cup finals their first year. What a, again, another, a great example of just the ineptitude of the NHL, but,

but I digress time and time again. Full, full me once shame on, on me. Right now, full me once shame on you. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice. Fool me 45 times. Shame on everyone.

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