The Cake Eaters - 35. D2: The Mighty Ducks - Part 1

Episode Date: July 5, 2022

Heath & Brandon dive into the 1994 classic D2:The Mighty Ducks! Today’s episode goes over minutes 0-9. They discuss how this is both of their favorite Ducks movie, some of the old Ducks we have lost along the way, Bombay's venture into minor league hockey, Brian Bosworth's amazing Zubaz pants, and how Jan holds up as our new spirit guide. Then we prepare for the Duck Round-Up in part 2. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

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Charlie's rounding up the ducks for D2. Probably the greatest movie in the history of the world. Definitely the top Mighty Ducks movie. And the one I know everybody, especially my co-host Heath, has been waiting for us to tackle. Oh my gosh, Brandon, this movie takes me back like nothing in this world can take me back. We talked about it in the very first episode that we've ever recorded where my fire, my love for the mighty ducks, it's sprouted from this movie. I owned the puffy VHS tape copy of it. We bought it secondhand from Hollywood Video during the dog days of summer sale on Main Street, Wayne, America. Oh, my gosh, Brandon.

I'm telling you, this movie lives in infamy. It's where I spent two weeks laid up on the couch after hernia surgery watching this bad boy on repeat. Like, I love everything about this movie. I didn't even realize how much I watched this movie. I forgot about your little baby hernia. Yeah, yeah, how I had a hernia as a baby. And literally, I couldn't walk.

Like, all I could do was, like, barely walk. You know what i mean and so i just camped out on the couch crushing ice cream sandwiches watching d2 the mighty ducks takes me way back oh this movie everything about this movie is great and we'll get into it later but like this movie actually influenced our family vacation because i'm like 80 sure the reason we vacationed when i was 10 years old to the mall of america was because i just wanted to go there so bad after seeing this movie did you rollerblade through it oh no absolutely not you cannot put me on like rollerblades just regular skates skis any of that stuff i am an absolute disaster

on that stuff like just i i look like a fucking baby deer on the ice like bambi on the ice that's me in any form doing the the mighty ducks tour though i think we talked about it at the end of d1 because in d1 they filmed they filmed that fully in minneapolis um so you had all the local landmarks like the diner and everything and then um in at the beginning of d2 when they're doing before they go to the junior goodwill games they film all that minneapolis too and i once we get to that those scenes i got a whole new list of of landmarks that you can you can base your trips around again heath yeah we'll have to put this together for the listeners on the website okay yeah i can i have a

screenshot uh because uh the fine i i didn't compile this whole list the fine folks at minneapolis.gov compiled this list for me and they also have a list of there's a they have a list of d1 locations as well as d3 locations so listen if you're very very smart tourism bureau for the state of minnesota oh yeah oh yeah they they are capitalizing on uh on nostalgia for sure because i mean there's just think of all the tourist money you're getting from this you know oh absolutely like i this was absolutely one of those movies that you just as a kid watch a thousand i feel like every parent if you ask them like hey what were the movies that your kid was obsessed with there's like a handful that they could just jump out and say right off the top of their head and this is definitely uh the top for mine not to put you on the spot but do

you have any what what are some of yours yeah so i was gonna say especially during the i'm sure uh all like kids even nowadays they have they all have their rotation of of shows and tv shows yeah maybe not as much because of like the streaming because of streaming yeah yeah whereas like in the night growing up in the 90s like you had you could only watch what you owned and so or what happened to be on on tv uh and so you yeah your your rotation was tighter and more uh um i guess you were more passionate about your your your cycle or your rotation that was it that's all you had man yeah yeah um so the d d2 uh was for sure in the rotation had the vhs copy lion king was in there oh that's a good one um trying to think what else was in there um

those are the only two i can remember off the top of my head is Mighty Ducks, D2 specifically, and then The Lion King. Beauty and the Beast was in there too. What about you? What was your rotation? Oh, man. So D2, The Mighty Ducks, for sure. That's an easy hands down. number two is also a sequel sister act two i i fucking loved sister act two i thought that was just the the best movie ever i also have an affinity for musicals um but number three this is all this is robin williams best movie and i

very arguable are you gonna say oh absolutely i'm gonna say hook i had a whole pirate thing as a kid for a very long time because of that movie hook was great hook my dad loved hook so yeah that that was part of like the family rotation for sure because my dad loved hook. So I, yeah, that, that was part of like the family rotation for sure. Cause my dad loved that movie. Yeah. Okay. So that movie, and have you ever heard of the movie called shipwrecked? It's like a,

it's like, it's like a, it's a B side live action Disney movie. And that's probably on the fifth, like that and hook. I wanted to be a pirate like every year throughout elementary school because of those two movies. I went through a whole pirate phase. And then the last one is James and the Giant Peach.

I fucking loved James and the Giant Peach, man. Nice. The other thing that was heavy in my rotation, it wasn't one specific movie. It was just the lot of disney channel original movies whenever those things i would remember like though because they would they would have premiere they used to do it like once a month right they'd have a new fucking movie um yeah or like once every two months or something like that and i remember they really hyped them up too yes i remember like a big time like like setting aside saturday and friday nights to like

watch the new disney channel original movie yeah they do like like a like a premiere type of thing too right and like make it a whole big deal but yeah hands down the best disney channel original and this is once again arguable but you just brink team up and, Soul Skaters. Brink is top three. It's not number one for me, though. I know. We've talked about this. Yours is my dates with the president's daughter. Yes, hands down. Will Friedle, dude. With Eric.

Yeah. Well, his name is Will Friedle. Put some respect on that. Oh, it is? Yeah, he's not just Eric. He also does the voice for Batman in the cartoons. Oh, okay. Yeah. He was the voice of Ron Stoppable in Kim Possible. Oh, nice.

Okay, I like that. All right. So it's just – Roald Fidel is not just Eric Matthews, okay? He's got a laundry list of talents and credits. Sorry, I didn't mean to besmirch Eric Matthews. I love a good Feeny Cuff. The only credit missing from his vast resume

is the Mighty Ducks. We should have got him in one of these movies. Yeah. It's a missed opportunity. Speaking of these movies, should we start digging into this bad boy? So for all of our listeners here, we're going to break down D2 similar to how we broke down

D1, which we're going to break it into segments. It's going to get a little different though because d1's episodes ran a lot longer than we would have liked um and we did about 20 minute segments for that so for d2 we're going to break it into 10 minute segments um so that's going to make um the number of episodes longer but the duration of each episode shorter which should be ideal um and so for today's uh part one we're talking minute from the beginning of the movie minute zero through about nine the nine minute mark i think it's officially like the scene we're going to cut off with is when yawn gives gordon the duck call to go round up all the ducks which i think is about

nine minutes and 30 seconds in so right about there we'll call it nine just to be nice and precise so that's where we're starting off with shall we dig in shall we go let's let's let's start off with the with these opening credits here which i mean the the music he's the fucking music it hits again hold on. I literally, very first thing is like, man, they hit us with the exact same font as D1. Yep. Same font. Same like sound effects for sliding in. The music is the same.

It's the same. Video in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very reminiscent. I love the intro. I absolutely love the intro to this. We get some Bombay solo skate, young Bombay solo skate at the beginning. And we've talked about this.

It's just re-solidifying that that Bombay solo skate, that's where that Minnesota miracle magic, that's where it starts to – it's like it's like butter getting churned up bad boy right there you know what i mean he's churning up that minnesota miracle that's when you know you're in trouble with is the bombay solo skate uh and there's an even better one later on indeed to2 that that will get to you uh yeah absolutely on the beach a beach fucking solo skate and they also his uh we also get a little bit of foreshadowing from papa bombay where he says remember this pond no matter how far you go don't forget your home yeah. Just foreshadowing that Phoenix. Papa Bombay. Fallen Rise.

Yeah. Papa Bombay. Mm-hmm. He's wearing the Hawks jersey, number nine, the Gordie jersey, looking just fresh as ever. Yeah. Just what a goal. What a guy. Gordon

Bombay. Remember that? I forgot that goal, yeah. What a goal. What a guy gordon bombay remember that i forgot that goal yeah what a goal what a guy yeah we're uh to the to the listeners out there i watched d1 right after i did this so it's very fresh so we'll get a lot of d1 references throughout this as well well naturally with a sequel you know there's a lot of d1 callbacks um speaking of which we should we should right out the get-go for people just so everybody's aware of there are tons of returning characters from d1 but there's also a lot of people that did not join d2 oh we should probably do that like a post-mortem like you know like a like have a moment of silence for the fallen well i was just gonna list their names i don't i don't think we really need a moment of silence well okay we'll list their names and then maybe play taps

okay yeah we can do that we can do that i was thinking we can we can uh stick taps we can do hockey stick taps for him yeah okay okay there we go there okay so go ahead uh list are fallen but so we're missing uh carp aaron schwartz he's he's not in d2 all right we're missing uh little the little hall brother terry hall jesse simoleon um we're missing uh tammy and tommy the theaters we're missing uh peter right we're missing peter yep yep uh and good riddance honestly no no not pete pete pete is tommy i'm talking about peter that's right tommy peter yeah peter got peter out of there him and his bad attitude yeah none of that in the junior goodwill games oh my god could you imagine team iceland would eat that shit up dude yeah they

they'd just eat them for breakfast exactly um who else are we missing i think that's the bulk of it right yeah i think that's it you know what we should do you know what we could do instead of uh playing taps we could like play the hunger games little anthem and then have the have the players flash up like in the hunger games. I mean, this is a, it's an audio presentation. Do you know what a podcast is?

Heath? I don't think we can have stuff pop up on video. Well, one day, a little, little brain chips. All right. So anyways,

a moment of silence, the video effects we're working on are going to play great for the podcast listeners. People, people don't even know how smart I am, Brandon. I can make shit happen. All right. So after this moment of silence that was never silent for our fallen, we jump over to – Oh, I'm sorry.

The biggest one – I'm going to skip ahead here. The biggest miss we – the biggest person we're missing is Hans. Hans is not in. Hans is gone. Charlie's mom. We do have – Charlie's mom is gone, but she's mentioned along with Hans. Hans and Charlie's mom don't appear, but they are mentioned. Jesse and Terry's dad is also not in this.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. MC Ganey. RIP MC Ganey. dad is also not in oh yeah oh yeah yeah he's mc gainey r.i.p mc gainey we'll talk about the missed opportunity that was his cameo we we don't get any we don't have any coach riley's gone uh we don't we don't get anything from him ducksworth again mentioned but not shown yeah and then uh banks's dad mentioned mentioned not shown. There's no adults. Good riddance.

There's no parents. They don't show any parents. Yeah. Which is – I mean that's a bit alarming. Where are these people's – these kids' chaperones? Well, they – because they had Bombay and the teacher as the chaperones. You trust Bombay and the tutor? She's just as irresponsible.

It's like going to camp. There's a handful of people in charge, and you think about it, and it's probably questionable. Tibbles is a terrible influence on everybody. Yeah, well, we'll get to that in a next episode. But for now, Brandon, we have some minor league hockey with the Minnehaha Waves. Yes. Oh, God, I love that name.

So D1 left off with Bombay getting a professional hockey tryout from our good friend Basil McRae. Yeah, shout out Basil. Yeah, so he hops on the bus and he goes to the tryouts, and that's how that ends. And so after we get the little young Bombay flashback at the beginning, it cuts to the minor league hockey game while the credits are still going. So he made the team. He's on the minor league uh hockey

team the mini haha waves which and they give a quick recap i have it for him i see at the end of the fucking radio announcer gives a recap and he uh he got upgraded from peewee hockey to the mini haha waves shout out to the radio guy it's the same guy that did the radio calls from d1 it's the same guy yeah um i i like to think that he got promoted that's what i was thinking during the movie i was like you know what i like to think that guy got promoted he either got promoted because it's and he does the junior goodwill ones right yeah yeah so i either he got promoted or the way the way i was thinking about it is he's like the go-to hockey guy in minneapolis like we're listening to the minneapolis radio and this dude just calls like every hockey game in minneapolis radio station you know and he's if hockey's going on he's

fucking calling it dude you know yeah and he's he's definitely to have like a sportscaster name, like a throwback sportscaster name. Like – I'm trying to think. Like his first name is Chet for sure. Oh, I was just going to say that. Like Chet Greenfield. Greenfield. I don't know about Greenfield. I was thinking since he's in Minneapolis.

Maybe too Irish. Yeah, I was thinking more Scandinavian last name. So like Chet Hansen or Chet. Okay. Something that ends in sun, you know? Chet Hansen with an E-N? Yes. Or an O-N.

E-N, but double N in the middle. You know what I'm saying? Oh. H-A-N-N-S-E-N. Chet Hansen. there you go okay so chet fucking kill me got the promotion um we have the the breakdown that the that the radio guy gives in the lead 4-1 and what a story this went for uh this is from gordon bombay Went from a legal career to coach the Minneapolis Mighty Ducks to the state peewee championship last year. This year at age 29, he's one short step away from the NHL.

Yes. So the Minnehaha waves are, to put it in baseball terms, they're a AAA minor league team. So they're in the AHL. One step below. He's so close, so close to the NHL, Heath, to realizing his childhood dream. So close. Yeah.

I still have beef, though, with them acting like he fucking coached peewee hockey 100 years. It's been one year. And, like, everyone's acting like he's like, oh, yeah, the Minnesota Miracle Man, he's been coaching peewee hockey 100 years it's been one year and like everyone's acting like he's like oh yeah the minnesota miracle man he's been coaching peewee hockey he did it once as part of his um court order his community service like quit acting like he's this fucking coach man he's one for one on championships that's a hundred percent success rate. All right, fine. I'll move on from it, but it did kind of bother me a little bit. 100% success rate. Just think about that.

And we also see Bombay showing his stuff, intercepts the puck at center ice, hits that breakaway across the blue line. And it's still going back and forth between him as an adult as a child he dekes once he dekes twice he shoots he scores the fucking triple baby unassisted puts the team up five one baby five one yep for the the mini haha waves who are playing did you catch you the the team that they're playing he's oh no i didn't who are team that they're playing, Heath? Oh, no, I didn't. Who are they playing? They're playing the Madison Wings, which, I mean, both the Minnehaha Waves and the Madison Wings, completely fictional teams. They never existed. Yeah. Yeah.

But I just thought it was interesting. They were playing the Madison Wings against the Minnehaha Waves. Do you know, if you had to take a guess, do you know where Minnehaha is? Oh, jeez. I mean, I would say northeast Minneapolis. You're right. It is a neighborhood of Minneapolis. Okay.

I got very specific. I figured you were going to say like Hawaii or something, you know. Well, it's mini Minnesota, Minnesota mini haha it's very obvious brandon they had a huge m well yeah but that could i mean so that's i'm i'm just i'm not a complete idiot i'm gonna be like oh michigan you know i bet that's i said you know how many places you know how many places start with M, Keith? Listen, it looked exactly like it.

They're called the waves for Christ's sake, Keith. Don't attack me for your shit question, Brandon. Yeah, it's the waves because they're the land of 10,000 lakes. Do you know anything about Minnesota? Oh my God. This is why we don't have nice things

on this podcast i'm just saying there's not i mean there's not what do you say waves you think more ocean than than lakes not if you grew up in the midwest especially especially in minnesota where they're all frozen all year round uh for like three months in the summer they're full of mosquitoes yeah let's see that's what they should have been they should have been the mini haha mosquitoes oh that actually would have been pretty fucking killer name and you got the alliteration too the waves the waves is a pretty sweet name and the jerseys are pretty sweet it's like light blue with with maroon and gold trim and then uh they're playing the mad Wings who are purple, black, and yellow.

But the thing I have – the thing that fucking threw me off for a loop is Minnehaha is a neighborhood inside of Minneapolis, right? Yeah. He takes a fucking greyhound home to Minneapolis. He takes a greyhhound home to Minneapolis. He takes a greyhound from one neighborhood of Minneapolis to another. Yeah, maybe the greyhound has some local routes, Brandon. You don't know shit about the Minneapolis city bus systems in the 90s. Why didn't he just fucking drive?

Maybe he sold his car. He's living off of uh i bet ahl players in the 90s were not making a lot of money probably not but he should have been saving his lawyer money you know instead of blowing it on booze heath well i was just gonna say do you honestly think that lawyer bombay saved any of that money spend it all on that dope miata he was driving a dope miata and then fucking six packs baby yeah well he probably had to pay a lot of money for that dui that's true yeah yeah do you as i i i don't have any uh statistics about uh duis in minneapolis in the 90s but they've never been cheap now yeah nowadays it's like fucking 30 30k easy if not more yeah for yeah they've never been cheap and

they continue to be expensive but the all of this goodness brandon that we just saw from him scoring and going up 5-1 guess what what it's about to come crashing down on him because we see bombay doing some fancy skating and well but so i want to say so but before we get too far ahead i do want to point out it's not that far ahead but do you want to point out when he steals the puck does the triple deke scores to go up five to one yeah he does a little he does some showboating he he's a bit he's a bit of an asshole he gives the dude he gives the dude a sly, he's a bit, he's a bit of an asshole. He gives the dude, he gives the dude a sly look. He's cheering. He's hopping around.

He is not a, he's not a, you know, he didn't act like he'd been there before. I'll put it that way. Oh, it's a, he was a, he was a poor winner. Exactly. You got to win with grace. Just like you lose. Yeah. Just like, like Duxworth ducksworth mentioned you know what does he

say in the first one he says when don't what's the line don't spike yeah oh oh yeah yeah that's what it is um yeah yeah so same thing he said he says score don't spike yes but so yeah so bombay still has not learned that lesson. Because, yeah, he does that. And then the next face-off, I think he gives the guy he just scored on, he gives him like a little, I don't think he winks at him, but he gives him like a smirk, like a little smile. A little cheesy grin, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so that's what pisses the dude off. And he goes in for the hit and misses. And so he gets doubly mad infuriates him yeah infuriate and then i've never seen somebody get so mad and top-notch acting just that look of anger you could tell man like oh i'm gonna mess him up against the against the glass yeah and then bomb which gets hung up right behind that glass you can see there's a mom and her like toddler and he fucking smashes the glass right right in front of him but he's not looking at the glass he's looking at bombay he's just just staring daggers he wants

him i imagine he knew the toddler was there that was just you know i it's a fuck your baby yeah yeah a fucking mini haha baby yeah fuck you and your baby lady um so i so this hit that he lays on bombay we got to talk about this because it looked like a clean hit and it did not look that hard like he hit it hard i was gonna ask you do you think do you think it was a dirty hit? No. He was hung up on the boards. Like, doesn't that hit happen all the time? That happened to Charlie in the first movie, and he got his, like, face pressed up against the boards.

Like, he ate the boards so generally hits like that don't hits like that don't really happen too often because you don't they don't really get caught in the boards like that usually if you're like caught in the boards you're it's because the puck is also there and so you're like so when another player comes in, he's not necessarily going to run you over. He's going to try to grab the puck from underneath you and then go. Yeah. Yeah. But that guy wasn't looking for the puck.

It was 5-1. He was looking for blood. He went beeline for Bombay. So in that aspect, I would say – It kind of was a dirty hit. I wouldn't say it's a dirty hit. I would say it's an unnecessary hit that ended up injuring somebody. It's like baseball etiquette, right?

It's an unwritten rule. When the dude's trapped like that, you don't run him over. But it wasn't like he didn't – he hit him body to body. He didn't go for the head. He didn't trip him or go after the knee. I don't know how his knee got hurt. I asked that too. Like,

I'm not sure how that hit to his upper torso blew out his knee. Unless he like twisted around, I was just going to say like his skate got caught in the ice. And so it just like tweaked it. And you know, he's 29 years old and is just getting back in the game his knees probably aren't like ship shaped yet yeah for sure yeah that's the only thing i can think of is like his he got hit and his so his body went one way and his knee stayed there you know yeah like uh like

in that 30 for 30 about the thrashers when that one dude broke his leg from getting his uh skate caught in the ice remember that oh the the trashers but yeah yeah i remember what did i oh what did i say the thrashers yeah yeah you said that's right who were the was that atlanta the thrashers and then they moved up to um uh winnipeg they went to pay the jets the the the new jets. Cause the old jets moved before. Yeah. That's where I, that's where I lost track of the Oilers who are getting blown out by the abs in the, in the playoffs. You just, you just dated this podcast. He's now, everybody's going to know where you, we, we recorded this one, one day back when, whatever. Anyway.

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Did they mention anything about surgery? I can't remember. They didn't say anything about surgery, rehab, none of that stuff. We just simply cut to the bus stop that we gave him his farewell on at the end of D1. We just kind of go over. Yeah, he takes the Greyhound from one neighborhood to the other. It's fucking. Yeah. Brandon, it's.

It's going to bother me. It's going to bother me. So number one, it's probably product placement with Greyhound. And number two, it just makes more sense to the general viewer to be able to identify the bus so it is it is product placement by greyhound i'm glad you mentioned that because i want to talk before we move past the game i want to talk about the ad boards that were at the minnehaha arena because there was an ad for greyhound buses so So got to be –

There's a partnership there. Partnership there. There's also an ad for Wigwam Beauty Salon. There was a – Nice. When I think of Wigwam, I think of the 80s hair band or 70s, 80s. Right? Like Wigwam.

They did the intro for Peacemaker. Anyways, keep going. Okay. 80s yeah right like wigwam they did the intro for peacemaker anyways keep going okay yeah um but then you also had a just a sweet like old school early 90s gatorade ad placement um well michael jordan you don't know it just it just had the logo it didn't have anything else but it was like the it was like 94 this is the height yeah but it was like it was that early 90s logo not the not not any of the new ones and then the best ad board the one that got me actually looking at the ad boards because they showed it after he scores like right behind him when he's celebrating there's an ad for zubaz pants uh do you remember do you remember those heath oh my god of course i wanted a pair

so bad as a kid i thought they were so cool and i was fucking thanks oh so cool and i was a big packers fan so they would have been like really green and really yellow and my parents were just like you're never gonna wear these stupid ass pants for not buying and they were kind of expensive too i think oh they were they were real pricey they're yeah they're even more so now because it's all dead stock like if you go to ebay i guarantee you it's like you know like 300 bucks for a pair of zubaz pants or something like crazy like that for oh absolutely any of our our young listeners or our non-hip listeners that never knew what zubaz was they were these like gigantic like pajama pants that was like the material they were made of they were real soft um but it was like all like

it was like a huge like tiger stripe print and then they just had them in all different colors and they were mainly used uh or the way that i came across them and know them for is uh sports teams would have their own like little it would have the logo like on the hip and then the color it would be color coordinated to each uh like the nfl the nfl had one you could get him the nfl is i especially remember because i'm pretty sure that i have like do you remember some nfl cards oh yeah yeah they were wearing them nfl players wore them all the time do you remember brian bosworth he he was like their sport man he was the the one who wore them all the time yeah not the best spokesman he he died out pretty quickly just like the zoo boss pants

died out boss dude the boss is still alive and well he's doing dr pepper commercials bro no i'm saying like he was a legendary college player but his time in the nfl yeah his time in the NFL. Yeah. His time in the NFL. He did. Yeah. He did not. He didn't do too well in the NFL, but he's still popular.

And, um, a pop culture. As like one of the first major draft bus, like one of the first major draft bus ever. It wasn't a bus. Yeah. That's not a bus. In modern, in modern terms, the kids would say he's bussin That's cause kids are stupid And they don't understand what the word bust means

First He just didn't live up to that That high draft That's not his fault that's the scouts That's the scouts you need to blame your scouts for being idiots Yeah well What can you do He's also a movie star Did you ever watch he's also a movie

star did you know that he's got a few movies what movies i can't remember off the top of my head um but just it's like really stupid like cheesy like action movies that like you know they couldn't get uh sylvester stallone to star in so they you know they were like okay brian come on in okay boss let's uh let's have you but he does they're they're uh yeah they're not the greatest movies but he does he you know the dr pepper commercials i'm talking about right the like fansville yeah yeah yeah he plays the very well done new yeah he plays the sheriff in all those, and he fucking crushes it, dude. Yeah, I'm not arguing that. I love Brian Bosworth. He's –

Just educating the fans that he did not live up to his draft status. It's a fact. No, no, no, no. He had some off-field mishaps as well. But the dude could rock Zubat's pants like no other. And he had a sick-ass fucking mullet. Listen, I'm not going to argue with that fact that his mullet plus the Zubat's pants, those were a righteous look, Brandon, especially at that point in time. His flow was unreal. Speaking of which, you know whose flow is unreal?

It's Bombay's in this movie. Yeah. When he gets off the bus, even in that pouring rain. Oh, my God. The scene when he gets hurt and he's laying on the ground, they take his helmet off and his hair is damp from sweat. Oh, he looks like a million bucks, dude. Even though he's crying in pain, he looks like a million dollars. Yeah.

Young Bombay. like a million bucks dude even though he's crying in pain he looks like a million dollars yeah young bombay uh but yeah when when when he i love that when the bus pulls up it's pouring rain you know they're setting the tone that bombay's dreams have been shattered he's in i also did you see did you love his old shabby North Stars hat? Yeah, the thing was dirty as hell, dude. And it was like, like everyone's dad has like an old hat like that, that they wear endlessly, you know? And like, I just thought it was great. I have an old Denver Nuggets hat that's all dirty and beat up and shit. I've got an old astros one like the old like pinstripe astros with like the black okay yeah like the the the um like early 2000s to mid mid 2010s yeah yeah i went i used to go to games all the time when they would lose a hundred games

a season because the tickets were so cheap and then then, you know, you get some cheap gear while you're there. So there you go. Back when the Astros were terrible. But anyways, love that. And then we see a nice, nice station wagon. I love that. I got a question because the nice station wagon pulls up, right? Yeah.

With our boy, Jan. I guess he's in the nice station wagon pulls up, right? Yeah. And guess with our boy, Jan. I said, guess he's in the driver's seat, not Hans. But the love of Jan. The lovable Jan. But so my, I have a question for you because the way he gets off the bus and he starts walking. Was he expecting Jan to pick him up? I think so. Because when he gets in in he starts like walking

like he's just gonna start walking home and then yon pulls up and he like turns around and and he like i don't know i just i it felt like he wasn't expecting anybody to pick him up and yon just like drove by yeah well i said yon has magical properties, but when Bombay pops in, he says, Han couldn't make it. So, like, I think he was expecting Hans to come pick him up. Hans couldn't make it. Yeah, he said Bombay asked where Hans was. And then Jan gives us the, this is the only time that Hans is ever mentioned. And he says, ah, don't get me started on that strudel head.

Amazing. I'm going to start using that. He went back to the old country for the summer, left me to run the shop all by myself, wanted to visit our mama. She loved him more, you know? Yeah. So that made me think that Hans was like the baby, baby brother. And so he went to go visit mama in the old country and we get snarky and way better than amazing.

No, he is. Brandon, we're going to fight about this all movie. Cause I love Jan. I think he is very quick witted and hilarious. And he also kind of reminds me of, like, if Santa Claus was, like, hiding in plain sight. Hans is even more hilarious and quick-witted. I love Jan. Do you think Jan would ever do the ketchup trick? No, because he's too stupid to think of it.

He's not too stupid to think of it. just wouldn't do that to children that's true it's mentioned quite a few times throughout this movie how terrible he treats charlie he doesn't pay him he works him to the bone that's unbelievable that's he's that's it's called character building brandon it's called slave labor is what it's called it's it's called character building that we all did. With his German rabbit eggs that he makes. He's probably very familiar with slave labor. Okay.

Don't you dare besmirch Jan's eggs and Hassenpfeffer and eggs. We'll get into that in a second. Okay. But I'm not going to sit here and let you besmirch Jan like that. I'm going to stick up for him, Brandon. Okay. But this is the only mention they have of Hans. He's never mentioned throughout the rest of the movie. And Jan was never mentioned in D1, which makes sense because they were never planning on having him. But then, spoiler alert for D3, Hans comes back and they never mention Jan.

It's real confusing. Yeah, the whole Jan continuity didn't make sense. Yeah, when I was a kid and I first saw these movies, for the longest time I thought it was the same person. Because I didn't pay attention to the line where they talk about Hans. I was too busy doing whatever. And as a little kid, all old people looked the same. So I just thought it was the same guy. Well, that just shows how stupid young Brandon was to not pick up on it.

Well, young Brandon was preoccupied with other things, you know. I'm just kidding. He was out there buying Zubaz pants, you know. Looking fly as hell. That's what you were worried about. Wait, did you like that as we roll um cut into the next scene we have our boy bombay crashing on the cot in the skate shop like how far has he fallen that he no longer has a place to like stay or live well so to so to to your point earlier when i was talking about why he didn't just drive i'm assuming because he just sold everything well because the life of a minor league hockey player is not the most stable yeah so i'm assuming i'm assuming when he made it the team um

because he probably did not know that he was going to end up on the Minnehaha. He could have ended up at Madison or whatever. Yeah. So I would imagine he probably – he got rid of whatever place he was living in, his house or a condo or an apartment or whatever. He got rid of that, got rid of the car, and just fully committed the the nomad minor league hockey player lifestyle and so then when he gets cut he's like hey yawn yeah i need some place to crash that way i can find a new job and you know get my feet on feet get my feet underneath me again that's what i was trying to say yeah yeah do and um i also love gotta charlie hound from one neighborhood to the other you know

it's rough business yeah how he's he's definitely fallen but how much do you think charlie relished in the fact that he was able to wake up his old coach uh by sharpening up a skate yeah waking them up early like like in d1 you know yeah sorry did i wake you yeah my bad i'm only sharpening the skate right next to your face yeah he's gotten really like josh jackson got big from between movies one and two they all did so that that reminds me um because we were talking about the the the characters that did not come back for d2 uh um charlie conway was almost recast for d2 really that would have been a disaster d2 had a couple like they had a a rotating not a rotating they had a few directors like they had a a rotating not a routine they had a few directors like they had i forget who the the first director was i think i think they might have they either had they had like two or three

directors um before like they they locked in on the the final one um which i'm blanking on that guy's name but they had so they had a couple directors um in like pre-production and one of the directors wanted to recast charlie conway they didn't like josh jackson so they were trying to recast him josh jackson talks about this in an interview about how he almost didn't make the cut for d2 wow yeah which would have uh and he talks about it in the article he's like it would have been one thing for them to like Charlie, the character, behind. But they were thinking about recasting. And that would have just been weird.

D2 would have been a disaster if they would have recast. Yeah. Even if they would have cut Charlie. Without Joshua Jackson, these movies don't work. Yeah. He was the mainstay of these movies yeah he he him him and emilio's like chemistry and and the the charm between the two of them is what makes these movies otherwise because it was nice to to see charlie and the old

coach reunited you know yeah when even the you know in Yeah. And then this is my favorite part. After that beautiful reunion with Charlie in Bombay, my boy Jans comes on in with some delicious, look out, got some Jans hasenpfeffer and eggs. Brandon, do you know what Hasenpfeffer is? So if I remember correctly, because I took five years of German. Good Lord. Five?

You better be able to still speak German. Oh, God, no, I can't. Wow, you're a disaster. I wouldn't even be able to. I could, like, if I read it, I would be able to figure it out. Um, and if somebody spoke it to me very, very slowly, I would understand what they're trying to say, but I would never be able to, like, if I went and tried to speak it to somebody else, they'd be like, who is this guy? Okay. What's what is he? Is he? He's not all there. Is he? You know, I, I only know the German from the song Das Flieger lied. I know every word to it, but that's it. That's all the German.

I know. It's just one banger. That is just, it will live rent free in your head for the rest of your life. The first time you listen to it, it's just, it's awesome. It's one of my favorite songs. Okay uh check it out das flieger lied but anyways back to the hasenpfeffer do you know what that is but so i'm gonna take a guess here because i like i said i took five but pfeffer is like some kind of like meat product you know something like that and haas is rabbit in german so i'm gonna i'm gonna assume it's like a rabbit it's rabbit and eggs it's uh haas and pfeffer is a rabbit stew it's rabbit and eggs it's uh hasan pepper is a rabbit stew it's a okay it's a traditional

dutch and german stew made from marinated rabbit or hair cut into stewing meat sized pieces embraced with onions and a marinade made from wine and vinegar okay i don't know how that goes with pairs with eggs i am and they made it look like sausage like they made maybe because it's yon's hassan pepper he changed it to sausage yeah yeah it's probably like rabbit rabbit sausage um wait did you hear the snarky comment that Bombay made when he brought it out? He's like, oh, I thought I smelled something burning Yeah, he has a couple fucking digs at Jan He has that Then a couple seconds later when he's talking to Bombay

Jan is talking to Bombay about what he's going to do Bombay looks Jan dead's going to do. Yeah. Bombay looks Han, Jan dead in the eye and goes, I don't want to be a loser, sharpening skates in a rinky dink town for the rest of my life. And I was like, dude, he's,

that's what Jan does. What are you? Why are you so fucking vicious to the dude right now? You called. Okay. We can dig into that. We can dig into that right now because the dude playing yawn did such a good job in the moment of being so offended that it took him a minute to get the next word out like yeah you know what i

mean you can see how offended he's like don't knock and like bombay cuts him off before he can even get his thought out he's like i know don't knock i know it's a great skill yawn i just don't want to spend the rest of my life doing it uh yawn was fired up town is what he says i don't want to say minneapolis is not as someone from a rinky dink town minneapolis is not a rinky dink town like no let me check bombay there real quick like come, come on. Yeah, but I mean, he's born and raised in Minneapolis. So I can see how he thinks it's like a reheating town. He has an experience like a true small town. Big time lawyer guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, he wants the big city lights, like LA. Yeah, well, Jan asks him you have you talked to ducksworth and that's where bombay is like no i'm not a lawyer jan i'm a player you can't go crawling back to ducksworth after after what happened in d1 either you can't yeah after he got fired now you go crawling back you got fired over some kids, some game. Yeah. That's a direct quote.

That's a direct quote. So I just want to compliment myself on that. Yeah. Although I think Duxworth would have taken him back because we – He's a great lawyer. He's a great lawyer. And when we come across the Duxworth firm in Game Changers, they have a real tight relationship with the ducks team so you know i think ducksworth has you know he's let bygones be got bygones and he's he's he would be open to bringing bombay back i think especially if yon is bringing it up i don't think yon would have

brought it up if it was like still real tension field you know i think bombay has put the lawyer life behind him that's that's that you know he can't he can't go back to lawyering because he's gonna fall off the wagon if he does for sure yep i was just gonna say that that's one of those things that like it's it's it led to his toxic behavior he's just got to put it to bed become a new man yep but um but yeah so jan is like well hey since you need to heal and you're limping around on a cane why don't you think about coaching that was you know the best time of your life even though he only did it for a year and it was required of him but that's fine but it was it was the best year of his life though he's best year of his life um i love that jan kind of gives him he's like after all you were the minnesota miracle man i love how because

so we talked about this in in d1 uh how the the hockey shop has is just littered with like frames of um like local minnesota hockey stuff uh and news stories and articles. And they have like a whole wall that's just Gordon Bombay. Yeah. Just an absolute legend. I also, do you like how Jan has his wear thick, has Hans told him to wear thick socks? Jan told him where there's a way, there must be a will, Brandon. Not as good as wear thick socks jan told him where there's a where there's a way there must be a will brandon not as good as where thick socks well and he says that so so he's he's talking to

he's he's trying to tell him he's trying to convince bombay to coach again and bombay has the the quick line where he goes i can't make a living being a peewee hockey coach and that's when yon hits up with where there's a way there's got to be a will and solid advice um and as we come to find out right after that yon has been doing some behind the scenes leg work for bomb yeah yeah some nice networking with the uh pitching them all over suppliers yeah all over town and so yeah that and that's this is when we get does it is this uh this is why you need a yawn in your life brandon like he's not just sitting back letting bombay crumble as an alcoholic and he's going out there pitching bombay to go he was a hundred percent if you're gonna lay that if you're gonna lay that

blame on hans you have to lay it on yon as well because as we found out in this movie he's been there the whole fucking time too uh not as prevalent as hans so that's even worse he's just negligent now um and i i imagine hans hans would have got him a way better job hans would have got him the the head coaching job of like the the actual team usa not the junior goodwill games b-list version but this is this hold on this is where bombay is like, give him a call for me, Jan. Maybe I can sharpen their skates. And Jan starts getting real, real fussy about him knocking skate sharpening. That's just such a low blow, though, by Bombay. Exactly.

Like, I get where he's coming from, but like, know your audience here, bro. Know your fucking audience. Yeah. Yeah. He just, especially with the dude the dude's fucking going out of his way to help you above and beyond and then you just gotta throw that dagger to his heart like that and so unnecessary skate sharpening so unnecessary real self instead of a gun that bombay it's the same thing with uh like like we talked about with his showboating

you know score don't spike he's out here fucking spiking on yon like really and all yon is really yeah maybe maybe that's where yon just you know got sick of all the shit and just had to give him some space let him become an alcoholic alcoholic lawyer maybe maybe that's why hans went back to the the motherland he was like you know what i've spent i've spent too much time with bombay already i need a break but bombay is yon's problem this summer exactly he's like i did my time it's your time now you're dead yon's and hans just keep fucking passing him back and forth it's like how are you

gonna deal with this fucking kid again. I know that they talked about making a fourth movie. I would have loved it if they would have brought Jan back and then not mentioned anything about Hans. Well, Hans, because Hans dies in the third one. Yeah. But in the fourth one, you gotta bring Jan back. That would have been great. And it's just fucking

cycling in and out. Yeah. Alright, so post Jan, heart to heart, we have Bombay back in the out yeah all right so post yawn heart to heart we have bombay back in the saddle for all the shit talking he did for skate sharpening he is right back at it but he is a little rusty and he goes flying on that first skate brandon yeah you got it you got to get a a little uh physical comedy in there you know have you have you sharpened skates before never no no have you yeah same no okay um it looks like a it looks like a pretty intensive uh pretty intensive um skill though you know it's a well i i love the whoever does the I want to say the outfits, but whoever does the wardrobe that at first when Bombay goes slipping, they had him doing like that welding stuff with no goggles on.

If he catches one of those in the eye, that's like the real deal, you know? And so the second time around, he had those safety goggles on. So I'm glad someone uh sharpened up and and got that situated but you know when bombay went rogue with that skate that's that's dicey situation yeah you got to be careful with those machines you know safety first brandon collins made the joke of the like ketchup joke but you could definitely lose a finger yeah those things yeah absolutely you know it's uh that's how you lose an arm and a leg

so after he's finally he's getting the hang of skate of sharpening the skates again and then this is another good one by jan jan comes over and he's just like he rolls up a whole thing of skates and then he just stares at bombay until bombay looks at him and he goes you don't have to do that right now you got a customer go help him and then well he says you don't have to do that right now and bombay is thinking that he's off the hook he's like oh thanks john he's like oh you have because you have a customer asking for you by name and he's like ah john you you bastard yeah And then you can do it. Yeah, then he hits him with it. And then come back and do it. Then he comes back.

See, Jan is hilarious. That's great stuff. Hans would have been even more hilarious. Okay, whatever. So anyways, we get Bombay coming out into the shop. And we see our boy Tibbles examining a hockey stick. And we see the stick almost gets away from him and takes out the display of sticks. But so this is an interesting introduction, too, because right away, Tibbles just kicks things off by going oh wow yeah you look

great much better than your pictures yep first thing he says to bombay he's got he's got the new flow going that's why you know it's that that flow is hypnotizing he's oh my god and then and then he's like oh yeah don don tibble senior vp of hendrix hockey apparel how's the knee i got a doc in la i want to have take a look at it he's doing great things with baboon ligaments i wrote that line down that line is fucking fantastic he's doing great things with baboon ligaments i love that i don't i don't even want to know what he's doing i don't want to know no it's crazy shit though i hope i hope it's i hope he's not just like swapping out like baboon knee ligaments for human knee ligaments i

hope he's doing something crazy like baboon elbow ligaments putting in and then putting that in human knees i hope he's doing shit like that you know yeah he's he's like doing like fusion techniques and he's adding it into like the elbow of a pitcher and like now all of a sudden five miles an hour has just been tacked on to that fastball exactly but i hope he's like i hope it's not like an a baboon elbow to a human elbow i hope he's like you know mixing ligaments around real you Dr. Zhivago stuff. Wow. Okay. Well, we're not going to dig into that in whatever horror movie you have going on in your mind right now.

Honestly, I don't even think that's what Dr. Zhivago did. I don't know why I said that. But Bombay knows Hendrix Hockey. And so Bombay is like – Everybody knows Hendrix Hockey. And so Bombay is like. Everybody knows Hendrix Hockey. Yeah. And so Bombay is like, what exactly is it that you want, Mr. Tibbles? He wants you.

I think that's interesting. I want you, Gordon. I want the next coach of Team USA Hockey to become a household name. I want you to become synonymous with winning and winning to become synonymous with Hendrix. What a fucking pitch. That's a good sales pitch. Dude, Don knows what he's doing. Right?

Yeah. Don, right? Don? Or is it Ron? Yeah, Don Tibbles. Yeah, Don Tibbles. I was impressed. I actually wrote that down. I was like, you know what?

As a kid, I did not appreciate the salesman that tibbles was yeah like i do as i'm older you know like i was like damn that's a good sales pitch i'd go fucking coach usa hockey after that yeah why not what are you gonna do what else you're to do? What else are you going to do? Heath Sharpen skates and some rinky dink town. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Do you like how yawn starts like slowly creeping into the conversation and starts just kind of lurking up in the background is Tibbles mentioned Tibbles mentions that yawn has been pitching Bombay for months.

Yeah. Months, which I think speaks to yawn, uh, his lack of faith in Bombay for months. Yeah. Months, which I think speaks to young, uh, his lack of faith in Bombay's hockey skills. He knew he was not going to make the age. 29 year old former lawyer blows out his knee. Game's going to come crawling back.

I got to get a job for him. Yeah. I got to get this. And cause otherwise I can't have this sad sack of bones loitering around my skate shop until i drive customers away with this yeah attitude yeah hold on i got it speaking of tibble's sales pitch he comes in with another really great sales line too he says gordon what you did with the ducks there was magic and we and by we i mean hendrix hockey the junior goodwill games and your country need that magic what do you say coach yeah dude how do you say

no to that you can't you can't you know pulls at the the patriotism heartstrings yeah you gotta serve your country yeah go represent junior goodwill games um and then yon gives him the you better say yes i'm gonna fucking kill you um throat clear and then bombay so bombay finally agrees and then yon gives it pulls out the fucking duck call and he treats us as if it's like a magical item that we all know about and have seen before and he gives it to bombay this is the first time we've seen a duck call there was no duck call in the first movie how else would you round up some ducks though brandon i'm fine with them rounding up a duck with rounding up the ducks with the duck call but the way they present it it says you know it's's like in a movie where they're like, ooh, this is the magical thing that you should know about and everybody loves.

Like they've been ducks for the end of time? Yeah, like they've been using the duck call since the beginning, since before the first movie. It's like nobody has ever seen that before, Jan. You literally just bought that at Home Depot 10 minutes ago. Maybe they assumed the viewer would imply that how else would you round up some ducks? I mean, this movie – these movies are geared towards kids, right? It's a lot of assuming that a kid would even recognize that as a duck call at first. It's just,

that's actually very true. I, I will say for as much as I love this movie, the IMDP, the IMDB page for like the, like the mistakes and the continuity mistakes is like six pages long. Oh, I haven't looked at it yet i was gonna

i was gonna save it till like the the last episode to kind of go over those but i i imagine it yeah oh it is just like basically once the junior goodwill games too the first all these all three of them are not not the greatest at you know the the we're not here for the plot, Heath, okay? Yeah, yeah. Once the Junior Goodwill game starts, it's like the whole, like, game flow continuity just goes out the window. Doesn't fucking matter anymore. thanks for listening everyone please remember to follow and like us on instagram at the cake eaters pod on twitter at the cake eaters also reach out to us via email the cake eaters pod