The Cake Eaters - 39. D2: The Mighty Ducks - Part 5

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

Heath & Brandon dive into the 1994 classic D2:The Mighty Ducks! Today’s episode goes over minutes 41-51. They delve into how the Icelandic language works, Brandon's hatred of CP3, Portman cock-b...locking Bombay, the return of Trash Goldberg, the emergence of Hollywood Bombay, recent developments in paleontology, and a complete breakdown of the first Team Iceland game. Then we prepare for some Soul Skating™ in part 6. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:08 but I figure after this episode, they're going to be doing it for hockey as well. Heath. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I don't, I couldn't find what Wolf.
Starting point is 00:01:18 The dentist was chanting at the team to get them fired up before the game. But this is a very delightful runner up for getting them fired up before the game uh but this is a very delightful uh runner-up for uh getting us fired up for this podcast that is going to highlight the glorious bad guy of d2 team iceland one of us really should have learned icelandic before uh we started this these uh episodes because uh you mentioned there's the chant that stanson does which we don't know what he says and then also uh the face-off uh the first face-off for the open the opening face-off for the game gunner stall says something in icelandic to jesse that we don't know what he says either so
Starting point is 00:01:57 we really i mean but we found out that that 12 to 1 tail kicking brandon that's whatever it was it was something along those lines, I'm assuming. I mean, well, yeah, whatever they're saying, it's working,
Starting point is 00:02:08 you know, keep saying it. Yeah. I'll add Icelandic to, yeah, I'll add Icelandic to the, to the, to the list,
Starting point is 00:02:19 you know, currently learning Spanish. I wonder if it's on Duolingo. I'll have to double check when we're done recording. I bet it is. It's gotta be on Duolingo. I'll have to double check when we're done recording. I bet it is. It's got to be on Duolingo, right? They've got everything on Duolingo.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, exactly. And so we're going to just be a couple Icelandic-speaking fools over here. Yeah. It's going to be great. Do they speak? So anyways. Wait, what? Is it like – I wonder how many of them speak English as well. Do you think it's a good chunk or do you think – because some European countries, a good chunk of them also speak English.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But I wonder if Iceland is one of those or if it's just strictly Icelandic over there. Yeah, kind of like Wales in the UK where a lot of them speak welch but mostly speak english oh yeah there's similar type of setup yeah but the fact i mean it i would have mentioned it's different because i wales they mainly speak english the i just googled it and while just about all icelanders speak icelandic they also tend to be fairly multilingual. The majority of Icelanders speak fluent English in addition to other languages like Danish, German, Spanish, and French. But the main two are Icelandic and English, as you just said. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Okay. So it's a fairly easy travel destination. You don't need to worry about translation. Okay. So it'd be, it's, it's a fairly easy travel destination. You don't need to worry about translation. Yep. And honestly, yeah. Easy travel definition, uh, destination. And also it's, uh, Icelandic is, uh, North Germanic. Uh, so if you know bits and pieces of German, then I think that you'd be able to pick up on it pretty, pretty easily. I would wager
Starting point is 00:04:05 that that's not entirely true um because there's similarities enough similarities to pick up their part of i i i find so they're as a part-time linguist linguist as i'm learning spanish and german you know i i know everything brandon so just because they're they're in the germanic language family but that's a huge fucking family heath and i would imagine that german and because english is a germanic language as well so is that's true uh so is danish so is swedish all of those uh all of those languages i can't remember if norwegian norway has their own language is norwegian a language i think it might be but all those are germanic languages i would imagine iceland and german are not super i while compatible I would wager they're not, they're not very close as far as, you know, the same words.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It's like German and English. You can, there's a lot of words that you can like, you can translate just in yourself, just based on, you know, the way they're spelled and like how they sound and all that kind of stuff. Cause they're very, very close. I would imagine Iceland is not like that i would imagine they follow the same language rules but you're not gonna like music in icelandic isn't just gonna be with a k instead of a c like it is in german um that's actually how paul noble in my audio book that's teaching me german starts off it starts with like words and phrases that you can kind of understand and like builds off of that yeah but i genius methodology google what
Starting point is 00:05:53 what how they say it sure what do you think about that brandon that's not what uh this is not what uh google translate is telling me oh really that's what this fucking weird site that i just clicked on really quick so it says uh oh wait it says tone that's a list yeah yeah you were reading how we pronounce the word how you pronounce the word in english yeah that's in the wrong section okay let's you're this is why we can't have nice things he's before you make a fool of yourself anymore let's move on okay let's go so we're we're picking up why are you yelling at me and choosing violence again
Starting point is 00:06:49 brandon that's just you put me on the spot and making me google shit really quick and i just read the first thing that i saw okay well you know you gotta you gotta do a little more research he can't exactly be just spouting off the first things you see. You can't put that kind of pressure on me, Brandon, and not expect me to stub my toe every once in a while. I'm human, Brandon. That's what this podcast is. It's human, like me. Speaking of this podcast, this is the Cake Eaters podcast. My name is Brandon.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I have my co-host Heath with me. Before we delve any farther into the Icelandic language, which I assure you we will, let's – I'm going to learn it now, Brandon. Don't tempt me with a good time like that. By the time this podcast ends, I'll be fluent in one of our previous episodes that one of the big complaints that I've seen about this movie is its treatment of Team Iceland and how nothing about it is necessarily Icelandic, including the names of the players. So I did a lot of research about Icelandic names and then about the names that they used in this movie. So I have a whole tirade about that, but we're, I think we're going to,
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm going to save that for a standalone episode. Yeah. I, cause I, I love everything about that. And now I need to go back and rewatch and pay a much more close attention to the names on the back of the jerseys. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:22 they, they only show dig in. Oh, go ahead. I would say they only show dig in oh yeah they i would say they only show there's only like six six or seven last names that you see including including stansing um so there's not a ton but i i did i did a whole bunch of research on icelandic names so you study up on the language and we'll circle back to this in a standalone episode because we can i'm sure we can go for you know an hour just on this just on the icelandic language alone yeah but i love it back back because like i mentioned this is the k gators podcast we're talking d2 this is part five of our series uh delving into d2
Starting point is 00:08:58 we're breaking it up into roughly 10 minute uh segments of the movie for each episode so today's segment uh is minute 41 ish it's like 41 and a half to minute 50 51 so we're we're starting right after the rodeo drive scene correct so we're picking up minute 41 and a half right right when Julie the cat walks into Bombay's office. Yep. Yep. And we have Bombay on the phone pitching the Air Bombays. It's not a sneaker. It's a street shoe like coaches wear.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Did you hear what he says after that? Yeah, sure. With a pump. That'll work. With a fucking pump, dude. With a fucking pump. That would be amazing. Who is going to buy loafers with a pump?
Starting point is 00:09:46 That would be amazing. Wait, hold on. So I pictured it like penny loafers, like where the penny is. That's where you kind of like start. You have the pump and you pump up the loafs before you go coach. I like that. Oh, my God. Do you think the hockey ones have like a little bit of like stuff underneath so that you can get some grip on the ice?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Oh, for sure. They're definitely not. They're going to be all terrain. All terrain. All terrain loafers with the pump. God, I want a pair. Who wears Nike out with this stuff? Like, get your shit together.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Nike, Disney. Let's get a collab going and let's get some air bomb bays in the store yesterday. I honestly can't believe they didn't at least like put something out or like a like a limited edition i it was just it was rife for merchandising but i like that was a missed opportunity that when i heard that because that's the first time i noticed that was uh yeah we could put a pump on it uh because of the yeah because remember when we were talking about little big league we were talking about the rawlings pump up glove how it never it doesn't do anything but yeah and you
Starting point is 00:10:51 know what i got instagram ads targeted at me after that episode about rawlings uh pump up sneakers like they brought them back nike brought the the pumps back man uh well the reebok is the pumps or the reebok sorry sorry that's what i mean not it's not what i say it's what i mean they also i think they brought the uh kamikazes back the sean kemp shoes oh okay yeah yeah so do those cut those come with a pump no they don't but i i do love the reebok kamikazes i just we we've talked about it in quite a bit of detail. I just love some Sean camp. He was Blake Griffin before his time,
Starting point is 00:11:29 like very, probably the most underrated in game dunker of all time. I'll throw that out there. I think you're giving Blake Griffin a little too much credit. Well, that's a very good point. Yeah. Sean Kemp was way better.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Sean Kemp led his team to a finals, him and him and GP. You know, all the, all Blake Griffin and CP three did was choke in, in a seven game series to the rockets. When James Harden laid an egg and Josh Smith was leading the charge, but you know,
Starting point is 00:11:57 there we go. Well, that, that falls. I wouldn't blame Griffin for that. I feel like that blame falls squarely on CP three. CP three should get all of the blame, none of the credit for everything he's done in his life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Well, I mean, he cost the Rockets a championship by blowing out his hamstring like a real dick in Game 6 against the Warriors. He cost the Suns a shot at a championship this year with his just fucking quitting in Game 7. The dude is one of the most overrated players. Point God, more like point loser, Heath. Yikes. Don't let my good friend Ryan Rosillo hear you say that. He is a CP3 truther, and I like to consider him a good friend of mine because I listen to his podcast all the time. I've disliked CP3 and the way he plays basketball since he started dude's a dude's
Starting point is 00:12:46 garbage all right so cp3 being the worst aside let's get back to the movie let's get back to got bombay telling julie the cat he's gonna yeah julie the cat because bombay is like hey let's talk about the loafers at dinner and julie's like hey coach i want to play when am i gonna get a chance and i've got to agree with her because there were some serious blowouts why wasn't she in for the third period they're kids that doesn't that doesn't yeah it doesn't run with me brandon it doesn't make any fucking sense at all trash coaching by bombay again like i'm sorry i love me Bombay, but this movie just really poked a lot of really big holes in his coaching. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yes. His coaching. Yeah. His coaching, his player management. A lot of it is very suspect. His loyalty to Goldberg is maddening. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Unbelievable. The fact that Julie even has to have this conversation with Bombay is ridiculous. And then he just flat out blows her off. Julie was far too nice throughout this interaction, which, I mean, makes sense. She's, what, 13 years old? She's not exactly equipped to stand up for herself in a situation like this. Yeah, because he gives a lame excuse like, oh, Goldberg's on a hot streak. Got to stick with him as long as we're winning, which I mean makes sense.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But the last game was 11-0. There's no reason that she should not have been in the game playing the entire third period. No reason. Exactly. Get her some garbage time just if for if for anything else just to keep her warm you know yeah and to keep goldberg rested for like you know he got pretty burnt out in iceland when they started ringing him up that's true imagine if you if you sit goldberg for the lot the for the third period of the the italy game and then you know the the eisen game maybe has a whole different uh start to it if you get a fully rested goldberg yeah yeah absolutely although i i i take that back instantly after i say it because goldberg's
Starting point is 00:14:58 trash and he's a he's a garbage goalie i i don't know. You know what I was thinking back on, though, when I was like watching this movie as a kid, I was I was a pro Goldberg. I was like, yeah, man, Goldberg's one of the ducks. You know, I was a duck's loyalist through and through. But as an adult, you know, you kind of come around and you realize like, hey, you know, Julie, the cat's got the fundamentals. She's like the the Tim Duncan of goalkeeping back there. You know what I mean? Like, get her in the fucking game, coach. the fundamentals she's like the the tim duncan of goalkeeping back there you know what i mean like get her in the fucking game coach so that was i i kind of like went through that thought process
Starting point is 00:15:31 while i was watching this time like man as a kid i was totally all goal like between this movie the first movie heavyweights like i was pro goldberg through and through you know let that guy just sit back there ripping farts during the the net the whole so i so my my frame of mind when i was a kid is going to be a little bit different from yours because you've been a hater your whole life i've been a little more cheery first of all i'm not a hater okay after i just got done shitting on cp3 i'm not a hater. Okay. After I just got done shitting on CP3, I'm not a hater, Heath. Okay. All right, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Okay. I believe you. That's fine. Whatever you got to tell yourself. But so my – because I – because you saw D1 first, correct? And then did you see these in order or did you see D2 first? No, I absolutely saw these in order. D1 was out correct? And then did you see these in order or did you see D2 first? No, I absolutely saw these in order. D1 was out before D2.
Starting point is 00:16:30 So I was – I remember watching – I think D2 was the first movie that I saw of it, but I was so young when it came out because it came out, what, 94, right? Yeah, 94. So I was three years old. I'm not comprehending stuff. The first one that I remember watching and comprehending was d3 and in d3 the you know the the julie the cat i i instantly recognized that julie the cat needs to be playing and this goldberg guy's trash because i started with d3 and it's very apparent in that movie so So then coming back to this one, it just, it reinforced it even more towards like this fucking Bombay dude is just, just blind loyalty to Goldberg is a detriment to not only this team,
Starting point is 00:17:16 but this country. Yikes. Well, I mean, it's, I mean, Goldberg played well until the Iceland game, but I just, you know, you got to give, especially like this isn't, you know, just the state of Minnesota. So you're getting just some scrubs. Like this is like the other, what they consider the best in the world. So you have to, at the very least, give them, because he gives everyone else a chance to get some run. Like Portman is always out on the ice
Starting point is 00:17:46 you know after he was kind of reluctant to dive in and duane is always out there getting those dangles going you know he gets he gets fucking roughed up in this uh in this iceland game though there's quite a few cut scenes uh everyone where he's he's getting roughed up everyone's fatal flaws uh from kind of come to the surface in this iceland game yep i mean good to you good teams have a way of doing that to you they expose your flaws that's right that's right but before we get to the game brandon that's well julie the cat sharp as ever calls bombay in on his shit we'll get to it at the end of the episode where it's like hey they were prepared they were ready they knew it's inside and out you were out goofing around pitching shoes with kareem abdul-jabbar get your shit together
Starting point is 00:18:35 bombay you're coaching in the junior goodwill games yes exactly man we got we got beef with bombay's coaching right now. Yeah. But before the game, before the coaching, we've got date night, Brandon. Date night. Breaking some curfew. Yeah, I love that. Little doo-wop band in the background. I love that, too.
Starting point is 00:18:59 That was nice. You know what I mean? I was like, oh, man, I would have thrown him a couple bucks for sure for, for doing that. Um, it reminded me of breaking up is hard to do from sweating with the oldies with, uh, Richard Simmons. When, when I was bored one time, Kelly and I did that on YouTube. We did the, the sweating with the oldies. It's, it's pretty awesome. It was a good workout, but yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That's what that song reminded me of. But anyways, um, have you ever done that before? The sweating with the oldies stuff? No, no, I know what you're talking about. Oh, it's great. They got some anyways. Yeah, they get, it's like dance moves to break it. It's, it's great.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's a lot of fun. If you kids, if you're ever bored with your workout, go check out some Richard Simmons on YouTube, man. You'll get some sweating with the oldies going for sure. But anyways, that aside, we've got Fulton and Portman. They're trying to Mac on some ladies. They're breaking curfew, just a couple bad asses out on the town. Um, and, and Fulton comes up and says, hey ladies nice night for a stroll wouldn't you say didn't work but portman was got a laugh and a smile that's half the battle that's true that's true that he did get a smile
Starting point is 00:20:17 but they took off man they're like all right that's that's cute but we don't have time for your shenanigans it's past curfew these, these fucking bash brother looking fools can't trust those guys. Yeah, exactly. And then Portman, but he's, he's excited. And he says,
Starting point is 00:20:33 Hey man, no curfew is going to keep us down. And then they're ready for some ice cream. Classic Portman. His bad influence. That's, that's, that's Chicago for you.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I was just going to say that. That's that Chicago bad boy mindset. Nothing's going to stop him. He's got a tattoo, a bandana, real bad boy vibes right there. Don't forget about the sleeveless hockey jersey. Sleeveless hockey? I'm surprised he didn't cut off his Team USA hockey, but maybe they just don't allow that.
Starting point is 00:21:05 You can only do that in practice.'t cut off his team USA hockey, but maybe they just don't allow that. Well, you can only do that in practice. Let's see. He cut off the sleeves in a game. They're not going to let you play. I was just kidding. But, but before they can even get their ice cream brand of what do we see?
Starting point is 00:21:17 But we see none other than the Mac daddy himself, Bombay with the team Iceland trainer. Yep. Maria. And we have my favorite interaction this is one of my favorite interactions this is one of your favorite it's uh i love this it's an okay interaction it's not oh this cracks me up though this is uh bombay wait a minute i thought iceland was covered with ice no, it's very green. Well, I thought Greenland was green. And then Maria hits me.
Starting point is 00:21:50 It hits with the favorite line. And I'll shout out Christine, who's the senior manager. She fucking loves this line too. But it said, no, Greenland is covered with ice, and Iceland is very nice. Yep. And then she compares it. She says it's probably very similar to Minneapolis. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:06 To Minnesota, where you're from. And then Bombay says, how'd you know where I'm from? She's been asking around. Who do you think she asked? I don't know. Maybe just like some reporters or whatever. Because we've established earlier in the movie that Stanson has done his research on Bombay and he knows his enemies. Do you think she asked Stanson?
Starting point is 00:22:30 By the way, where's Bombay from? And Stanson's like, Minnesota. Yeah, exactly. That's what – they're probably talking, right? She probably helped do it. Like, hey, go be really cute and flirt with your reporters and dig up some dirt. And then she comes over and she's like, hey, they call him the Minnesota Miracle Man and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And he loves having fun and yada yada. And then that's how at the press conference Wolf was like, you know, talking all that shit. Yeah, she probably helped him do some of the research. Team USA is going down. That's where they're going, Brandon. And you know you know team usa is going down that's where they're going brandon hey and you know what he was right he was right yeah he was right yeah but that's and and then portent goes to fulton and i feel like this is like just like peter with the and and carp with the sarcastic riley interaction but portman goes to Fulton. He's like, look at this.
Starting point is 00:23:26 She's an Iceland chick. What's he doing with her? Great coach we got. I don't get it, man. Like, calm down. He's just, you know, getting some ice cream with the trainer. It's not like he's talking game strategies,
Starting point is 00:23:40 trying to, you know, just trying to wet his whistle, Portman. Okay. As a, as a praise that like any other way my my my biggest i i never understand why these these kids are always such cock blocks you know they get so upset and you would think because portman's 45 years old right you would think he would understand he was literally just having fulton go chat up some ladies for them and bob a is just chatting up a very lovely icelandic trainer and like that just makes sense he's a successful you know coach pitching air bomb bays
Starting point is 00:24:19 like give the guy his due yeah let him live his life man like who cares like you said it's not like they're freaking like trading secrets you know yeah they're not even talking hockey not that bombay has any secrets to tell he hasn't been coaching anybody he probably doesn't even know these he probably doesn't even know portman's first name honestly i would be shocked if yeah his first name he definitely hasn't called him by anything other than portman for the last few months but i just i don't know yeah it just it bothered me it didn't make any sense they're not talking strategy but the way the way it does make sense is if he's been an absentee coach and they haven't really seen him around much because he's out pitching meetings and doing all that that's
Starting point is 00:25:02 where you get pissed off because it's like all right so we're practicing we're getting ready and this dude's just out eating ice cream with the enemy like that's that would be you know that would put a little little fire in your britches you know and that that is exactly what's happening we get a little more uh like context into it after the iceland game when they blow up on him because you get get both Jesse Luis and Julie both bring up the fact that Bombay hasn't done shit to coach them. They're not practicing. They're not, they don't know anything about team Iceland.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And so that, I think that's where it, the, the anger is coming from. But you know, as, as 13 year old, but it was misplaced.
Starting point is 00:25:41 It was just a little misplaced as 13 year old kids. They're misplacing it just a tiny bit. Yeah. They just don't understand why. They know they're mad at him, but they just don't understand why. And so this is just the catalyst. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah, because, I mean, if Bombay's putting in the time and he's actually coaching these kids, then going for a little ice cream after curfew, no big deal. You know? Yep. But he's actually coaching these kids. Then going for a little ice cream after curfew, no big deal. You know? Yeah. But he's not doing that. He's spending, you know, 20 hours of the day pitching air bomb bays. And then the other four hours getting ice cream. You know? No hockey.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Doing photo shoots with supermodels. You know? Yeah. It's messed up. It's not what you want to see in a youth coach that's for sure definitely not kind of kind of bad attitude you know speaking of which coach orion would never okay uh coach over again you in that third movie i still i'm i'm did i tell you i'm not i'm refusing to watch the third movie until we break it down so i can really dig into it with a fresh set of eyes fresh coat of paint because like i just charlie and fulton's attitudes during it were just so shitty that it just bugged me oh yeah they're they're real prima donnas yeah like get your well because coach ryan was right you know like leave your duck
Starting point is 00:27:06 shit at the door you're in high school now buddy it goes it goes back to one of there are one of the previous parts when they get the team usa jerseys and charlie's like can we be can we be the duck still why can't we wear our colors it's like you're representing the goddamn country charlie okay fucking america charlie like oh i'm sorry do you hate america yeah you know what ducks are charlie ducks are communists okay it's we're the bald eagles of america not some fucking communist ducks charlie god that's what bombay shit that's how bombay should have explained it to him in the moment. You know who else loves ducks? Joseph Stalin, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:52 That's exactly right. That's how you break it down. Like, listen, Charlie, this is how I'm going to break this down for you. We are the USA American freedom-loving eagles, and we are no longer the communist ducks. He's sick. Son of a bitch. Yeah. But, but that,
Starting point is 00:28:07 that go, that's definitely speaks to, to the D three thing. When you're talking about their attitude, it's just like, I like sense of entitlement. Like you were a, you,
Starting point is 00:28:18 you won one championship when you were in Peewee hockey, Charlie. Okay. The ducks are not that special even though i mean they do name it they do name a team after them so you know yeah but that's just because there's some movies that are in real life that we're that's just because yeah because because they were uh capitalizing on merchandise capitalism you know yeah capitalism always wins out you know exactly and that's why the that's why it's Team USA, not Team Ducks.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Speaking of capitalism, we have Mr. Bombay, Mr. Bigstaff, coming in with his Pat Riley hairdo, slicked back hair. We get our first introduction to what I like to refer as Hollywood Bombay. Oh, I like that. Hollywood Bombay. Oh, I like that. Hollywood Bombay. That's nice. Yes. Okay. So yeah, Hollywood Bombay comes strutting in the locker room.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Strutting in the locker room and Averman hits him with some great lines. Oh, this is, this is awesome. Averman hits it. Well, the team's like, woo. And I think Connie hits him him with a he's styling mr coach and then aberman comes up nice jacket did you get two pairs of pants with that oh that's classic dude that's a that's a classic men's warehouse type of joke you know that's and now i feel like it's more buy one get one free suits uh yeah it's probably going free or the i was
Starting point is 00:29:46 thinking uh joseph a bank have you ever heard oh yeah joseph a banks yeah don't they have like a like a buy two get three free or like buy one yeah free some shit yeah yes every every one of those like men's suit places has a like a similar variation of the same deal. And it's always like a ridiculous deal for the worst suits in the world. I mean, all those things are just money laundering fronts anyway. That's why they were able to do those crazy deals. Remember when we broke down the accounting of being a criminal on the podcast, Brandon? We could just do that again. That's another spinoff
Starting point is 00:30:25 is uh how to launder money through a uh men's warehouse it's real easy it's real fucking easy that's why they do it so much yeah i i don't know if we talked about but like there was in there was a chinese food place right by my house in houston that it was like the grandma was like this huge kingpin like sick like six restaurants three chinese three mexican and they were just all laundering money for for the game you know little drug trade restaurants are the the suit the suit game is a little harder to launder money through because it's like a physical good the best businesses to launder money through our it's like a physical good the best businesses to launder money through our services like like a restaurant um or consulting car washes trash that that kind of stuff um yeah that's that's where the money's at well so yeah but anyways fulton and portman
Starting point is 00:31:22 come up to to hollywood bombay and they say last night, coach. Bombay says, yeah, it's fine. Well, what would you do, Bombay? And this is where he also gets in trouble because he lies to them. And he says, eh, watch some TV, went to bed early. And I love this too, where they're like, not without a little dessert, right? Maybe a little ice cream. He didn't necessarily lie to them. Well, he didn't. He omitted some facts.
Starting point is 00:31:53 But he didn't go to bed early. He was out with us. That depends. What time is Bombay usually going to bed? Maybe it was early for him. Well, listen, if you are coaching a game the next day and you're staying out super late, that's just another negative. Maybe he's got insomnia.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Maybe he's got sleep apnea. He can't exactly fall asleep right away and stay asleep. Well, walking around may not help that. Munch it on some ice cream. Ice cream may or may not help. Probably not, though. Probably not. Did you also like then Averman ends it with,
Starting point is 00:32:32 Nice haircut. Did you lose a bet? It's good to get Averman back with the one-liners. It's been a minute. Yeah. And then after the little locker room scene, it cuts to the pregame. We're skating around, pre-skate on the ice and we get some we get some more averman we also get maybe our first mention of goldberg's first name did we know goldberg's
Starting point is 00:32:59 first name before this yeah we did greg goldberg do they mention it in the first movie when do they mention it i was trying to when do they mention it i was trying to remember i don't think i i don't know if i remember but i feel like when it popped up i just knew it was greg goldberg because i feel like he says it um in the first movie like they're doing the intros and he's like who's that maybe not maybe they don't ever say his first name i don't know i could be wrong but i be wrong, but I don't think they mentioned his first name in the first movie. But again, I could be wrong. I'm just trying to go off of my memory.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I didn't go back and look. But yeah. Great interview by Averman. Oh, he crushes it. He crushes it, dude. Live from LA, welcome to the Junior Goodwill Games. Tonight's matchup. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:33:46 We have Greg Goldberg, goaltender, Team USA. Greg, what is it going to take to beat these feisty Icelanders tonight? And then he says, I think it'll take a supreme individual effort from me, Greg Goldberg. And then it's all downhill from there, that's for sure. Yeah, he's right right it will take a superior effort from goldberg but do you know what the problem is heath goldberg's not capable of that yeah i like that the ref yells at him and averman like does a cut to the camera and then it goes and then it goes to static that's a great touch great great yeah that's it really was like
Starting point is 00:34:22 that was that was a great interaction i was was I was always a little like going back to Game Changers because Averman's one of the cameos, one of the returning ducks in that. And we find out he's a limo driver. I was hoping he would be like a like a sportscaster or something. You know, I was a little disappointed in the limo. But yeah, they could have someone else doing the limo driving but i think they just wanted averman to do it because he's just full of shenanigans yeah i guess that makes sense like it wouldn't it wouldn't fit anyone else really you know you know what would be you know what would be great if we if he if we get another uh averman returning to game changers if we get a
Starting point is 00:35:02 little more backstory it'd be great If we find out during the day, he's driving limos at night. He's like a high school or like a Peewee. And now they're calling youth hockey games. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. That would be good.
Starting point is 00:35:16 That would be good. Wait, do you like to, at the beginning of this game where Bombay is talking some shit? Yeah. Good luck there, coach. You'll sure need it yikes he eats those words real quick yeah dude just the the the un like similar to like goldberg
Starting point is 00:35:35 uh like we talked about last episode when during the italy game like the unwarranted confidence you know yeah he's won one believable he's won one peewee championship and he thinks but i mean they're the greatest and you know i guess i guess so like that's what that's what happens when somebody calls you the minnesota miracle man you know yeah that goes straight to your head exactly oh man well so we get the face off and we get a little more trash talk but this time we get you mentioned it before we get gunner stall who is kind of the mvp of team iceland speaking icelandic and jesse's like what does that mean he says yes you'll find out yes and so this is our first look at the gunner stall who is yes the mvp of of team iceland uh played by scott white
Starting point is 00:36:28 great actor um and god gunner is fantastic what a great character so good and so you get the yeah you get the icelandic he's trash talking in icelandic and then doesn't tell jesse what it means fantastic love it yeah uh but they dropped drop the puck, and out of nowhere comes fucking Portman and just runs over Gunnar Stahl. The hell is that about, Portman? I think Portman heard the trash talk and was like, no, we're not doing this trash talk. We're the bad boys.
Starting point is 00:37:00 And Portman is also really elevated right now. Yeah, well, and Portman like really upset with Bombay. And so once again – His emotions are running high. Yeah, so we have some misplaced anger where Portman is getting a little hot under the collar and just hears Gunnar Stahl talking shit. And he's like, you know what? Nope, I'm going to set the tone. I'm wiping this dude out.
Starting point is 00:37:23 A penalty right away. Interference, roughing, whatever you want to call it. Penal tone. I'm wiping this dude out. A penalty right away. Interference, roughing, whatever you want to call it. Penalty. Ran at him unprovoked, says the referee. And then what does Portman do? Makes it a billion times worse. Well, so this was an accident because he didn't know the ref was right behind him. No way.
Starting point is 00:37:41 The way he did it looked like he saw the ref coming and then did a fake flail and that's why they kicked him out because he was like oh sorry i didn't see you there and that's it's calm down you're out of the game like the ref is like i'm not doing dealing with this you just knocked me over you saw i saw you turn your head and you saw me come in get out of here take a hike, bud. I don't know about that. I think that the ref was real quick. 100%. Real quick with the ejection here.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Listen, I'm not going to lie. I think he was quick with the ejection, but I do think Portman's little flail the arm was purposeful. The ref saw it. I don't think it was purposeful on the ref because he doesn't turn around and see the ref he's still he's looking at he's talking shit to gunner who's on the ground and then he feels the ref grab his arm which the a what are you touching the kid for ref that's on what leave
Starting point is 00:38:38 the don't touch him i think it may be like portman thought it was an iceland dude and so he was that's how i that's how i read it he felt somebody dude. And so he was like, oh. That's how I read it. He felt somebody grab his arm, so he flicked it back because he thought it was an Iceland dude. But it was the ref. Yeah. And then he's like, oh, shit. Messed up there. Because he regrets it.
Starting point is 00:38:56 He's like, oh, crap. I didn't mean to do that. Exactly. Yeah. But I just, I don't know, man. You can't knock the ref down like that, though. Like, you know, like, you got to keep your head on your shoulders. So you can't let anyone provoke you It's like the same thing with dennis rodman back in the day. Was it the italy game where somebody The ref jumped up on the glass somebody checked checked into the ref
Starting point is 00:39:19 You know, they let that go. That was awesome. That was fine. Yeah, but that was actually accidental. This felt way more purposeful. I didn't see it the way you saw it. I saw it as like he did this 100% with malicious intent towards that referee. I don't think it was malicious intent towards the referee. I think he thought it was an Iceland guy, and so he was just flailing his arm back. Malicious intent, Brandon. But so the ref kicks him out three seconds into the game. Iceland guy and so he was just flailing his arm back malicious intent Brandon but so the the ref kicks
Starting point is 00:39:47 him out three seconds into the game Bombay is furious right absolutely you're throwing him out you can't do that it's three seconds into the game and then yeah and then and then
Starting point is 00:40:04 Portman goes into the locker room and we hit just a uh a fantastic display of like regulating your emotions here he's well he just throws his stick on the way out he's throwing sticks he's he's breaking chairs in half he's destroying the locker room well that's that's coming up later we're not quite there because before he starts destroying the locker room we have iceland i would have loved circles around them just gunner stall is putting on a fucking show before we get into the the game the rest of the game i want to talk about i'm going to talk about all of portman's shenanigans right here right now i'm just going to get Portman's shenanigans out of the way.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Cause he spends, I would love for the, cause they don't show any like intermission stuff like him talking to them during the intermission and like the locker room or anything. But I would have loved one scene where like at the end of the second period or at the end of the first period, they all walk into the locker room and it's just destroyed. And Portman's just sitting there like,
Starting point is 00:41:06 like, what the fuck did you do? Cause he, he does. I commented on it. It's a hell of a stool break. It's a hell of a stool break. And they,
Starting point is 00:41:16 they show his cut scenes intermixed throughout the game. So he's having this temper tantrum for the whole rest of the game. The rest of the, the, the, is it, are they playing 20 minute periods? Do you know? I'm not sure,
Starting point is 00:41:29 but it's, it's based on the re his, like they're cutting it back and forth. Cause his reaction is based on the reaction of the blood bath. That's like on the ice that he knows he could be influencing, right? Like he's a good defenseman. He's big,
Starting point is 00:41:44 he's strong. He couldn't like him and fulton could have helped hold it down on the different lines and so you know he's just his frustration is blowing over at every goal that iceland scores on goldberg yeah but he spends the entirety of the game throwing a fit in the locker room yeah absolutely i've got all the i've got all the cuts back and forth in here it's it's great stuff yeah because i love when julie comes in and and she's like i know how you feel yeah she's just always so cool and calm she's definitely lives up to that the cat nickname you know nothing getting by her cool cool as a cat that that scene where she comes in just deadpan monotone i understand
Starting point is 00:42:25 it's fucking fantastic oh she she does a great job she absolutely does a great job and that okay so and like in the game man that goal that they score on goldberg where goldberg is just like barely even takes him like 10 minutes to try and get to the other side of the the net after we he like slides oh my we get trash trash goldberg right out the get-go oh my gosh and then and then what does he do he yells at the defense wake up defense can't do this all myself yeah he slides completely out of the net and then he's's like, what the fuck, defense? Yeah. Like, yes, the defense let them get by on a two-on-one.
Starting point is 00:43:11 But at the same time, you overplayed that so bad that Gunnar Stahl had time to sit and talk shit before he rips it home. Yep. Not only did it. So Gunnar had time to sit there and talk some shit and the guy who passed uh was it sanderson that passed him the puck i think it was sanderson i think so i can't but he did a little like fucking twirly little one hand half-ass fucking pass too uh yeah it's just uh embarrassing all around goldberg yeah it was rough i liked keenan's uh trash talk and i love was real concerned about it i love i love that this line from uh from russ russ has the best lines the i
Starting point is 00:43:53 don't even have a little brother and then he hits goldberg with the uh what is it i bet if that puck was a cheeseburger you'd stop it yes that's exactly what he says it's so and he has some other ones coming up in the movie too just keenan absolutely knocks this out of the park no surprise there you know and you know what he's i i bet you he's right i bet you if that was a cheeseburger goldberg would have stopped it yeah for sure if it was a philly steak he would have been all over that you know yeah philly philly goldberg yep yep and so then uh what happens they're just getting wiped out is this when duane gets fucking run over yep this is because they just showed ducks getting wrecked all over the ice and then bombay's flustered cowboy duane's out there spinning yeehaw and
Starting point is 00:44:46 then everyone's yelling at him pass the puck duane and fulton's like duane can you please give me the puck bombay is screaming pass it and then all of a sudden he just gets absolutely rocked and that's where it cuts to portman after duane gets rocked to and he's like i can't believe this is happening i should be out there but but it's, you know, I felt it was his fault for doing that move on the ref, but you feel differently. No, I mean, he, I, I, he still needed, he, he still should have been ejected because he can't,
Starting point is 00:45:17 you can't do that to a ref, but I, I don't think it was as malicious as you're making it out to be. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was an accident on his part but yeah you gotta you gotta throw him out or you gotta do something because you can't be doing that to the ref a quick message from our friends at broken forest collective built on a passion for small batch and handcrafted products broken forest provides high quality casual wear and lifestyle goods that are american made and built to outlast the fast fashion trends they also plant a tree in boulder colorado for every product sold visit broken
Starting point is 00:45:55 forest co.com and use the code cake eaters 15 for 15 off your order and then it cuts to Jan in the skate shop and the announcers like they're missing big Dean Portman. It's one nothing Iceland and they're out skating out hitting Team USA in the first period. And Jan is just he's not mad, but son of a gun. Is he disappointed with Bombay in his fancy pants, Mr. Big Stuff Hollywood outfit? I'll say it because they show he's watching it on TV, and the clip he sees is Hollywood Bombay with the slicked back hair yelling at the kids. Yeah, just like Hans. Remember when Hans said that to him in the first movie? Didn't want to interrupt.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah, I didn't want to interrupt yeah yeah i didn't want to didn't want to ruin the vibes just enjoying some some good yelling so jan is concerned and then we get back to the game and gunner stall is still rocking and rolling um goldberg gets a save um and then banks is like skating and gets absolutely wrecked but he still clears the puck what one before we go too far one thing i want to talk about though is um right when duane gets smashed right he gets he gets smashed by sanderson and one of the other guys i couldn't see the name um yeah but it was number 32 i think it was but he gets smashed in between them and then it cuts to the eye the iceland bench and do you see what maria does no she like does like a little like a hat like a hat
Starting point is 00:47:31 tip she like she's wearing like a uh an ice team iceland baseball cap she like grabs it and like it was a great uh a great celebration uh from her i thought it's fantastic oh that's that is a good celebration. Cause that's a good hit. You know, that's a good, clean hit. Just wrecked him. Yeah. It's just sandwiched him in between.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah. I love it. Um, well, this is where we get Luis Mendoza. He really can fly across the blue line, but then he gets tripped up and slides into the boards. And he's just like, come on, ref, call something. So the announcer mentions he gets tripped. I was like watching it back and forth, right? And I didn't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I feel like he just fell. I thought I saw a stick in there, Brandon. I thought I saw a stick get in there. There was definitely sticks around the area of his feet. I just couldn't tell if it actually clipped him or not, or if he just fell because it was moving. It was moving so fast and my subtitles were in the way. Maybe it did clip him,
Starting point is 00:48:34 but that's what the ref saw though. Brandon, you're just, you're talking through the ref stock process and that's why we got a no call. And Luis just needs to get his ass up and get that he was skating to get back on defense the the luis was going to run into the boards whether or not he tripped or not we know that for a fact exactly so good no call great no call yep i i agree you just you can't be giving
Starting point is 00:48:56 people everything you know what i mean and and that but that happens you know like when you got when you got a tough you know mean team and then you got a team that's based a little bit more on fun and finesse, once they start roughing them up, they'll get in their head quick, and then it all starts to unravel like we see. Exactly. It happens. Yeah. It's a real easy way.
Starting point is 00:49:17 You see it in the NHL a ton when teams are down. A real easy way to switch the momentum is just to start roughing it up, mucking it up a bit. Throw a punch here, aucking it up a bit, you know, yep. Throw, throw a punch here, a punch there,
Starting point is 00:49:28 you know, a little trip, a little head. Exactly. I love it. A little trash talk. I love hockey trash talk too. It's great stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Oh, just, just chirping with the boys. Yeah. Chirping with the boys. And you know, Leonard Kenny does such a good job, but I wish they like, my favorite is that they try to mic up like hockey players, but they can they literally can use none of the content. That's all they get.
Starting point is 00:49:53 All you get is like cheers and OKs and like yelling the other person's name if they score a goal or something. I guess it's the worst experience ever. I literally have no idea why they do it. They can't use anything because they're just, you know, it's like, oh, sweet fucking dangles, boys. You look like a little shit out here. Yeah. The mic depth doesn't make any sense to me.
Starting point is 00:50:18 It's not a good experience. It's not. Yeah. The good stuff you can't really use during national broadcasts. Exactly. But that's what I want. I want NBC or whoever. I think ESPN Plus, ABC is doing the stuff. But that's what I want.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I want them to release the uncut mic'd up for the – You got to get HBO in on this. Get HBO to mic'd up for the you gotta get you gotta get hbo in on this get hbo to mic them up yeah that's the hbo should just do like a quick little show on that just nhl trash talk yeah great so anyways all right so we get back to the game and uh um you know we've we've got Luis who got tripped up and all of a sudden Bombay hits the panic meter way too soon and says, we're in trouble, Ken. What can you do for us?
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yep, he goes to Kenny Wu. Yep, goes there real quick, says we're in trouble. And Kenny says, let's see a triple aerial with a double Hamill Camel that should split the D, then a pirou triple aerial with a double Hamill camel. That should split the D. Then a pirouetting half toe touch for the goal.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yep. What do you think about that move, Brandon? Mr. Figure skater. Just the whole thing. Not the whole thing. 90% of that was fucking nonsense. Did you verify this? I was curious.
Starting point is 00:51:44 You said you used to go to some figure skating competitions. I know a good deal about figure skating thanks to the Kurtz family. We've talked about this before. Shout out, Kurtz family. A triple aerial, not a thing. Yeah, not a term that's used. Ael uh double hamel camel or a hamel camel that's a real thing that's legit okay um a pirouette is obviously a real thing um and then what was the what was the last thing is it like a half toe touch that's not a thing
Starting point is 00:52:18 yeah pirouetting half toe touch yeah i don't know what what for the goal yeah that doesn't make it the the triple aerial is uh i assume he just means like a triple spin isn't a pirouette when you like kick your legs out like why would you be like kicking your legs out like that for a goal so he could half touch halfway touch his toes that's why i mean you're doing a toe touch while you're trying to shoot what the fuck is a half toe? Yeah, yeah. That doesn't make any sense. You're not doing a toe touch for the goal, Kenny. Come on. No.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But a double Hamill-Camel, that's a real thing. That's a legit fucking move. But that's the only thing. Everything else he said doesn't make any sense. And then he just goes out there and just gets fucking run over. Does it? But before that, did you see connie gave him some really nice encouragement she says come on kenny get us back in the game i'm sure you can do it ken
Starting point is 00:53:09 yeah it's all on you kenny you're you're our only hope kenny yeah and he does he starts doing i i'm assuming what he would consider the triple aerial because he's doing some spins and then the ice and i couldn't i couldn't tell does he dump trucks yeah triple aerial double hamel camel like when he was started sounding that i was like what a mother what an idiot and how is a trip how is a triple spin gonna split the d you're just spinning on the air they're gonna make him do anything that's gonna hypnotize the defense and he's just gonna spin his way right on through. So, and then,
Starting point is 00:53:47 so he, he skated through, he does one full spin still on the ground. He doesn't even jump just one full spin on the skates. Yeah. And then looks like he's attempting to jump from that, from a full spin and do a jump, but then just gets crushed by both Gunnar and, and Sanderson, the, the big dude.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah, and then he limps over to the bench, and Bombay is looking really annoyed and distressed, and Bombay's like, was that it? I love that so much. Is that what you were talking about? Was that it? And Kenny, yeah, just like a little head nod of shame. Like, yeah, that was it.
Starting point is 00:54:30 They killed me. And then we go back to the locker room in Portman. This is where we get Portman, please give me one more chance at those guys, and then gets the most badass stool break ever, just wrecks that stool, crushes it over his knee um and you know as much as i love portman i just you know what i it's funny that he's like the um like the enforcer because all i think about now is that he's the singing voice of max from a goofy movie yep and he's uh you know and i love those goofy movie is a very very underrated disney channel classic and that's what he mostly did after the ducks to write was musicals and plays
Starting point is 00:55:12 right i'm pretty sure he did yeah he did the newsies crushed that role for sure you know how much i love that fucking yeah that's the one i was trying to think it was the newsies um yeah but yeah he did that he did he did a bunch of plays a bunch of musicals dude can sing yeah you know and no one will ever be able to at me christian bale's finest role newsies well that i mean playing the cowboy well you haven't seen the banner just wait till you see thor love and thunder maybe you change your mind about that is he in that movie yeah he plays the villain and in that one in uh yeah in the new in the new thor oh i'm kind of excited for it they did a great job with the last thor movie i i really like that one
Starting point is 00:55:57 yeah the new one looks really good uh i like how they they've like changed the like the energy or the vibe of the movie where it's not like super serious it's like action but kind of like light and fun with it you know what i mean and like really it feels like really nice and superhero-y you know i don't know how well that's explain it but like the energy of the movie is so much better than the first two first two were just okay that's thanks to uh techo watiti i think that's how you say his name that could be totally wrong shout out yeah he he because he directed uh what was it ragnarok the third one and then he's directing this new one too and then he uh he voices uh crog but he's a... Oh, nice. Yeah, he's a fantastic filmmaker and actor and fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Yeah. They've really kicked those movies up a notch. So I'm excited for that one. Can't wait to catch it on Disney+. Not even going to go to the theaters, Heath? Absolutely not. I don't go to the theaters anymore man like not even to see it ruined it for me not even not to see anything like i why would i ever want to go to a theater i like my own although i do love some movie theater popcorn and maybe like some
Starting point is 00:57:17 raisinets or some bunch of what about yeah what about jurassic world that's gonna be pretty dope that is gonna be pretty cool and i love how the dinosaurs got loose and they're just eating everybody. Oh, you want to play a baseball game? Tough shit. Here comes a raptor and it's going to eat you. Although, fun fact, the raptors are not actually that big. They were more the size of a cat than as big as they portray them in Jurassic Park. So that's actually a pretty big misconception.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, the dinosaurs, they're always finding new stuff about dinosaurs is the problem, you know. So you can't really, you can't say anything for definite. They're definitely not the size of a cat. That's for fucking sure. Yeah, they 100% were. Brandon, I listened to an audio book uh there's dinosaurs for adults it was it was great there's four hours they they range in size though he's the raptors yeah i agree but in general they were more the size of a cat and
Starting point is 00:58:19 had more like bird features yeah well that that was the thing in like that was like the the mid-2000s they figured out oh shit these guys got feathers yeah yeah that'd be a horrifying looking thing yeah anyways okay that's the problem with fossils though is you can only you can only really discern so much information from bones um you got to make up a lot of the rest exactly yeah unfortunately bones are are pretty terrible at telling you what uh what was covering them up yeah yeah that's i would love all that organic material that disappears uh hard yeah hard to identify wouldn't it just be amazing if we were just so wrong about dinosaurs and they looked just horrifyingly insane and we were just so
Starting point is 00:59:06 right that's what i hope well i i was um i forget where i saw it but i saw a thing about like the t-rexes there's a a a new upcoming theory about t-rexes and their tiny little arms that they were actually wings similar to like an ostrich um yikes so that's what they're thinking now or somebody is thinking that um about t-rexes that they had like they had wings and feathers and were more similarly built to like an ostrich you know that would make sense so yeah because what are what are those tiny little arms for if not wings like what what other practical evolutionary it let's get back to the game okay anyways neither of us are qualified to be talking about dinosaurs no but i do uh i do enjoy the old the old i do enjoy all the jurassic parks old new
Starting point is 01:00:02 they're all great i just don't go to the movie theater anymore because I like my dogs and my home snacks and to be able to pause it and go to the bathroom. The first Jurassic Park is one of my top five favorite movies of all time. The rest, two and three are solid. All the Jurassic worlds, while average to terrible movies, I still love them because it's fucking Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I mean – Yeah, and I love Chris Pratt. See, I don't care for Chris Pratt. He'll always be Andy Dwyer to me. It's just like different variations of Andy Dwyer, just like Burt Macklin, FBI. I like him in Parks and Rec. I like Andy Dwyer. All of his other roles, though, I could take or leave.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Plus, the dude as a person is a fucking weirdo. You don't like Star-Lord? No, I'm not that big of a Guardians fan. I could take it or leave it. Well, there you go. Well, anyways, okay. So back to the game. We have Iceland skating up.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Team USA trying to get back in it. Team's cheering on Goldberg. But we got Olaf Sanderson right down the middle with Gunnar Stahl. Sanderson to Stahl. He scores. Yep. I thought you called him Henderson for a second. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And maybe it was a slip of the tongue, but I said Olaf Sanderson. Okay. Yep. Olaf. And Miss McKay is looking distraught in the stands, Brandon. She is alarmed. Well, she should be. I mean, what is it?
Starting point is 01:01:39 Is it 5-0 now? Is that what it is? Yep. Something like that. And we cut to Bombay in the huddle. Where's our concentration? You guys are out there running around like a bunch of chickens with your heads cut off. His, yeah, his pep talk's not that great.
Starting point is 01:01:57 We have a lot to be desired. Yeah, because Jesse says he's like, we're doing our best. And Bombay fires back. Well, your best isn't good enough anymore. Blow this game and we are one loss away from elimination. You guys might want to go home early, but I sure as heck don't. That honestly might be the worst thing you could say to somebody in the middle of a game. Where they're not playing well.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Your best isn't good enough anymore yeah and averman turns to julie the cat my that was inspiring and he's like like you said like hey we're trying our best coach well that sure as hell isn't good enough you guys suck that's all right there you may we may as well stop playing right now because even if you play your absolute best, it's not good enough. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, wait. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:02:52 It was 4-0 Iceland as we head into the third and final period. So, like, this comes unglued in the third period. They score eight fucking goals. Yep. Well, I mean, after that. In the third period. After that rousing pep talk you know what do you expect yeah they just yeah i guess they just completely turned off because even the announcer says you know he hopes bombay has some magic up his sleeve because they are getting thoroughly manhandled tonight
Starting point is 01:03:18 rough look yeah um but so then they come back out for the third period and that first goal uh who scores that who scores the next goal do they show that gunner stall just flies down the the the ice jukes out goldberg hits him with the 5-0 and this is where um bomb yells, Goldberg, you're off. And Goldberg is thankful. He says that. He says, finally. And then on the way out, he says, good luck, goalie. You're going to need it to Julie.
Starting point is 01:03:55 To Julie the cat. And this is the one good coaching decision Bombay makes is he pulled Goldberg, not only because Julie, the cat's a better goalie, but because in these types of scenarios, you don't, you don't, you don't want to leave your goalie out there to get embarrassed. You know,
Starting point is 01:04:17 there's once it, once like a mercy rule, exactly. You like end his mercy, pull him out of the game, put the backup in. Give him a chance to kind of dust yourself off. Exactly. Don't leave him in there to suffer because that's what kills the confidence
Starting point is 01:04:38 is leaving your goalie in there to suffer. Because, I mean, losing, you put the backup goalie in, he lets in a few more goals. I mean no harm no foul really there's the you know the famous saying losing seven nothing is the same as losing one to nothing the loss is a loss yeah who cares yeah um so yeah get get julie in there maybe she can provide a spark who knows um but i mean she doesn't she doesn't last very long in there yeah she doesn't last very long because we get sanderson and gunner stall coming up and sanderson says sending in a woman to do a man's job don't break a nail so this this caught me off guard now now watching it back now this caught me off guard because this seems very very uncharacteristic of the icelandic culture
Starting point is 01:05:33 they're one of the the most progressive countries when it comes to uh like equal pay and you know women's rights and all that kind of stuff yeah but in the 90s wasn't everyone kind of the worst about that stuff i don't know i i also that narrative doesn't push forward iceland is bad guys so you kind of got to throw realism out a little bit and just so they could be jerks like this could be like a one just like in general right like you might have a big group full of people and everyone's very supportive. But that one person might be a real jerk about it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:10 And so maybe the Sanderson guy who we find out later is kind of a kind of a tool. Right. Sanderson makes sense. I could see that. But I would have preferred Gunner not to be involved because it goes against Gunner's personality for sure. Well, Gunner was just kind of there, right? Like he was guilty by association on this one. Is Olaf the only one who says anything?
Starting point is 01:06:35 Gunner doesn't say anything? You got it. Okay. Yep. Gunner just skates over with him, and then Olaf says, you know, send it in, that woman, to do it. Oh, wait. No, hold on. I think Gunner says don't
Starting point is 01:06:46 break a nail see there we go yeah and then i think julie kind of like i get it she wanted to prove a point but you know what a proven a better point is like shutting them out for the rest of the game instead she says i'm sorry boys but can you help me with my pads, please? And they're both like, ooh, la la. Help with some pads. I loved this from Julie. I thought this was fantastic. See, to me, I think shut them up by shutting them out. She's not going to shut them out.
Starting point is 01:07:19 What? It's like 5-0 if they don't score for the rest of the third period. All of a sudden, that's your shot. Goldberg's out of there. You don't know that. She's not's like five. Nothing. If they don't score for the rest of the third period, all she's not going to, that's your shot. Goldberg's out of there. You don't know that. She's not going to bring in. She's really the cat.
Starting point is 01:07:31 The only thing I would have changed throughout this interaction is I wish she would have punched him in the face instead of just hitting him in the gut. She just knocks him over. And then the ref to that's it. That's that was my whistle to that's it. That's intent to injure. You're out of
Starting point is 01:07:45 the game let's go young lady again he's real quick with the fucking throwing people out yeah he he yeah he gives her gives her the uh the uh the heave ho pretty quickly there right right right away like no not even i don't know that that was that was not the right that should have just been like a penalty for roughing, you know, like that. Yeah. Penalty for roughing.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Two minutes. Two minutes. Throw somebody in the box. Let's keep it moving. Yeah. Yeah. Let's he, he jumped way too fast on giving her the hook,
Starting point is 01:08:18 but you know, what can you do? He was just tired of the team USA shenanigans. I get, I mean, they're not really giving you any shenanigans. They're getting fucking laid out here, bro. Well, you know, they seem like they were kind of complaining a lot. And so maybe the refs are just sick of listening to them complain during their blowouts.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And so now they're kind of just letting Iceland stick it to them. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. A little refereeing bias. I i say do we know where these referees are from are they from iceland we don't but when we hear them talk it i don't hear any um any kind of a accent or anything but these junior goodwill games are rigged he's rigged yeah yeah but uh we get julie the cat gets the. Goldberg thanks her for the breather.
Starting point is 01:09:06 And then we need to get some momentum going. So now we're going to do Fulton slap shot time. And Dwayne, this time, wisely passes it to Fulton. But too little too late there, buddy. And Reed winds up, slams it, and then whoa glove save by seggy s-e-g-g-i by the way glove save and a beauty that's his name seggy i didn't catch that one yep seggy s-e-g-g-i okay that's definitely definitely definitely not an icelandic name. Yeah, and the announcer says he'll have the imprint of a puck in his palm after
Starting point is 01:09:48 that one. And then it shows that he does. You'd think that there'd be like a, if it's going to leave that kind of an indent, like the hand doesn't have a lot of meat on it, like you're probably going to break a bone in your hand, right? For that kind of indention?
Starting point is 01:10:06 Probably, but that indention doesn't make any fucking sense on the palm because he doesn't catch it with the palm of his glove he catches it in the net of the glove if you look at it so like it technically never hit the palm of his hand it never even touched it never even touched his hand yeah but that doesn't have the same effect for the movie as a really scary look of a palm being crushed by a by a hockey but just don't don't show it not hitting his hand you know that's all i'm asking well just a little it's it's called movie effects brandon come on that's true you know what i always say always say, Heath? We're not here for the plot. Not here for the plot. Oh, I thought you were going to hit us with incorrectly using the fool me once line again. First of all, I've never incorrectly used it.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I don't know if you've ever correctly used it. Okay. That's okay. That's fine. I won't take that away from you, Brandon. I'll let you live in that fantasy world. But after this, we get back to Portman in the locker room, and he is just punching and punching that training table,
Starting point is 01:11:13 looks up and says, hi. And this is where we get Julie the cat. I know how you feel. That's great stuff. And then we're kind of gearing up towards the end of the game end of this episode brandon because we have banks is on the ice and he moves along the left wing side now he moves into the center gets a really nifty spin move where the iceland dudes uh i believe knock each other out yep then he's all alone okay dope yep all alone and he scores put him in the spin cycle
Starting point is 01:11:46 baby what is that still on dryers the spin cycle right yeah yeah you're right you're good okay i didn't know if that was still a feature on some of these fancy new dryers you know what i mean um i think it is why would it not be i don't know but just you know sometimes you can upgrade i always do the like the um power efficiency setting yep that's smart that's smart yep so anyways um we banks he shoots he scores he unwisely hits the net with his stick and is like talking shit. And it's like, yeah, we got one.
Starting point is 01:12:29 And that's where it opens up his wrist for Sanderson. Cheap shot of the century. And he comes in. This is, I have a problem with this Brandon, because he comes in so fast and just waxacks his comes in so fast so hard see and the ref gives him two minutes for roughing are you kidding me this is total bias refereeing he gives julie the cat the hook he kicks julie and portman out and then lets this motherfucker just get two minutes. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Like that's like ejection for the tournament. That was intent to injure Julie. The cat pushing them over was not fucking intent to injure guy. Oh man. That chat my ass in the moment. I was like, hold the phone here. We've got Sanderson real prick. just takes out Banks and gets a penalty.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Brandon, the injustice of this. If that happened in the NHL, it would – 1,000%, it would be a five-minute major penalty. And so that means Team USA would have five minutes on the power play regardless of how many goals they score during the power play. Then you would also tack on a 10-minute game misconduct to Sanderson and you would kick him out of the game. And then he would probably be suspended for a game, if not two.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Absolutely. That's an easy suspension for him. Yeah, that was the thing why I am – I hate throwing Julie the cat out. And I hate throwing Portman out because it doesn't make any sense when you let this guy stay. But I mean it doesn't make any sense, you know, logical game-wise. Plot-wise, though, you needed a way to get Julie and Portman out of there. Yeah. That way, you know, when they play in the second game, you have enough of a difference that it makes sense that they could come back and win. Yeah, it's not going to just end in another blowout because Portman is a pretty key figure in their lineup.
Starting point is 01:14:54 He's their enforcer. And like Tibbles says at the beginning of the movie, you're going to need him when you play Team Iceland. You got it. That goddamn Tibbles. He's right about one thing. Yeah. He's a hell of a salesman, though. We got to give him that.
Starting point is 01:15:12 He's a hell of a salesman. I do love Sanderson, though. So the dude comes in. He comes in so fucking hot, dude. He's like skating the length of the ice, and he's screaming while he's skating towards Banks. And then the hardest he can, he smashes Banks' wrist. That was so unbelievable of like him coming in hot just out of fucking nowhere.
Starting point is 01:15:38 It was amazing. And then he's getting escorted by the ref to the penalty box for his two-minute penalty, right? Mm-hmm. And he goes, we call that a love tap in my country. Yes. Oh, God. Sanderson's a real, real piece of work, isn't he? I love him. He really makes you not like him.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Oh, yeah. He's a great villain. he's very uh he would fit right in with with mcgill you know yeah him mcgill they can he kind of reminds i feel like he would be a bad guy and die hard even though i think they were german but i just that's what i got i got die hard bad guy vibes from him well he's he's very stereotypically he's the tall blonde bad guy from 80s movies you know yeah exactly yeah very uh what's that why am i blanking on his his name the dude from rocky oh shit what is his name i'm gonna blink on it too he's in all the all the expendables movies too right oh the the grin yeah the actor's name is duff lundgren i was trying i was trying to
Starting point is 01:16:45 remember the character name in rocky though do you remember the characters that doesn't matter it's it's he'll always be it doesn't matter duff lundgren yeah i like that guy ivan grove drovich i think that's what it is oh yeah that that is it that is it but oh man i love duff lundgren he's great oh duff lundgren's fucking fantastic and i love that he uh he's he's he does a lot of uh he does a lot of weird stuff nowadays that like pokes fun at himself like um if you ever watch it's always sunny he does uh they have the the thunder gun movies that are like a like action movies in in their universe or whatever and they show little clips of it sometimes and he plays the guy in that like making fun of 80s movies he's you can tell dolph lundgren's got a good sense of humor about himself but anyway yeah he does he does he i agree but yeah we love some dolph
Starting point is 01:17:38 lundgren but yeah this guy is total like 80s bad guy yes all the way through but and i love i i fucking love when people when people use the phrase in my country and then they use it to like justify terrible behavior i don't know why but that's like a great comedy trope that i love in my country gets me every time yeah uh i love it and then hold on so sanderson is going to the box and then we get portman in the stands showered and changed um and starts yelling at hopefully coming up to fight him well maybe not showered but potentially showered um he's changed he you you can tell he's like hiding he's like trying to be incognito because he's like – when you see him at first, he's like hiding his face
Starting point is 01:18:28 while he's sitting in the chair. And then he gets up and storms the penalty box. Yeah. It just storms the penalty box, yelling at him. And that's where Sanderson was saying too, yeah, in my country we call that a love tap. And then he's like, I want a piece of you, Sanderson, you're mine. Oh, you think it's funny. Oh man. That is. And Sanderson's just laughing.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And Portman's actually kind of lucky. He didn't get like more trouble there. You know what I mean? Yeah. To get ejected from the game, then to go in the stands and then try to jump the penalty box to fight the dude. That's taking a little far, buddy. You know, it's a baller. That's what that is. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I don't know. I just I don't know. That's a that's a tough look. But then we gear up to I love how they end this this game because all I could think of was from one of our earlier podcasts where you were talking about how the, one of the, some of the writers did not like Josh Jackson is Charlie Conway because we get a throwback to Charlie is spaz way.
Starting point is 01:19:37 That's what I, that's what I have in my, is that what you put to his classic spaz way is what I wrote in my notes. Yeah. Oh, throwback spaz way on the break and then swing and a miss and and what did bombay say he's like swing a little harder you'll give him a cold next time or something like that yeah remember that that's the first thing he says to charlie in
Starting point is 01:19:58 the game and then man that third period got away from um 121, and we end with Wolf the dentist giving Bombay a wonderful golf clap. I loved it. Wonderful little golf clap. And then we'll end this with the – because right after you get the little golf clap, Bombay's throwing some papers, and then we get a little pep talk from our boy Don Tibbles here, who is very upset. He's he's what's he say? He says 12 goals, huh?
Starting point is 01:20:30 We're what we're paying you to to win, right? He says, what does he say? Oh, yeah. Hold on. It's Tibbles is confronting Bombay after just a horrible loss. And and he does it. He's like 12, 1, 12, 1, huh? You think Hendricks is interested in backing a loser you're only good to us if you win and then he then he fucking throws a pot shot at minneapolis again why does everybody in this movie think minneapolis is a small fucking town oh my god i just broke back it drives me nuts like why do they think that Minneapolis, Minnesota, it's the Twin Cities, Minneapolis, St. Paul.
Starting point is 01:21:07 It's a very large area. It's not some rinky-dink town that no one's ever heard of. Yeah. That didn't make any sense to me either. But yeah, and Bombay says, he's like, Don, I didn't have the magic tonight. Because Tibbles is like, I've been good to you, man. I gave you a real shot, a real shot to be somebody, and this is how you repay me? And that's why Bombay is like – go ahead.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I was going to say Tibbles is scared too because he mentions in the scene – so Tibbles went out on a limb for the Minnesota Miracle Man, OK? So if Bombay doesn't work out, not only bombay tibbles is gone too you know yep and and this is where after bombay says he didn't have the magic tibbles hits him with a mic drop he says well you better get the damn magic and you better get it fast or i'm out of a job and you're on your way back to palookaville minnesota shoveling snow and sharpening skates have a nice night palookaville that's i was trying to remember what he what he called it palookaville yeah palookaville ah god that that old that old tibbles is just for for a for a movie franchise that is set not only takes place in but also filmed in minneapolis and st paul they take a lot of shots at that city yeah they really do they really do so but so that's what is that
Starting point is 01:22:37 should we wind it down here yep so that that's where we're going to cut off. I believe that's like the 51-minute mark right on. Or not the – right? Yeah, 51-minute mark. Yeah, and it's right before we get Bombay back in the locker room. Yeah, so after this – so for the next part, it will pick up with the post-game pep talk, another good pep talk from bombay and then uh and then it goes into um we then we get some some more rust action in the next part as well we get a little um yeah team usa has to they got to go find themselves again as as with all uh with all of these movies heath where what's what's where's what's the best place to find yourself, to find why you're really doing this?
Starting point is 01:23:25 It's on the streets. On the streets. A little bit of street hockey. You know, Brandon, I'm fired up for this next episode. It has my favorite scene of the entire movie. We got some soul-searching going on for not only the ducks, but we got Bombay off on his own doing his own soul-searching while these ducks are getting it together.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Hollywood Bombay is going to get a real good look in the mirror. And then we're going to get some help from – since you mentioned some soul searching, Heath, we're going to get some help from some soul skaters. Yeah. Yes. You're right, Brandon. These guys had – Keenan's brother had team Puppin Suds Written all over him Soul skaters for life
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