The Cake Eaters - 57. Game Changers CANCELED

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

Heath & Brandon tackle the harsh news of Game Changers getting canceled. The boys reflect on both Seasons 1 and 2 of Game Changers as they discuss how we got here, all the storylines that have been left open-ended, the lasting legacy that this series will have on Mighty Duck Lore, how Disney abandoned this series towards the end, Brandon goes over some ratings and reviews from both critics and the general audience, and then they talk through what could happen next for the Mighty Ducks IP. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

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Goodbye. Sing it with me, Brandon. Na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na. Hey, hey, hey. Goodbye. That is it. It is adios, my friends.

Adios, amigos. R.I.P. Gary Perture. Remember the Titans. That's us singing so long. Farewell. I remember watching that scene in Remember the Titans. Hold on. Sorry. I just remembered

what we did for the last intro. It's the sound of music. Oh, well, this is better. Sorry. Sorry. So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye. I bid adieu to you and you and you. This one's better. This one's better this one's better this one is better yeah sorry for that quick lapse but I just it dawned dawned on me that we had recorded this

opening before and it was the sound of music this one's better this one though I was when you're singing it reminded me remember remember the Titansans good old gary brittier when they sing that at his funeral i remember watching that for the first time when i was like i had to been like what 11 or 12 when that came out something like that maybe maybe younger but that funeral scene man i was bawling like a baby i mean our coach made us watch it like on a sunday night before one of our games like you know team unity Brandon it's like you know you wanna you wanna talk about a brotherhood okay let's get let's get back to back on track so

season two actually not just season two happened the show has been cancelled season two went on we just finished going over season two Mighty Ducks I think as we were covering the eighth or ninth episode, news broke, Keith. Canceled.

Dunzo. Gone. No more Game Changers. Hence us singing goodbye. And, you know, honestly, thank God. I wish they would have given Game Changers the old Yeller treatment rather than even putting Season 2 out there for us. Take her out back. We brought it up multiple times throughout us covering Season 2.

And I think we even brought it up once the Emilio news broke that he wasn't coming back. Honestly, you don't need this. We don't need season two. If Emilio is out, not only was Emilio out, they didn't have any other duck other than Fulton and Portman for two seconds.

Two seconds of ducks. We beat it to death, but when Bombay left, they lost the Minnesota Miracle Man magic. It was not passed to Alex. They tried to create this passing of the baton to Alex, but it did not translate because she did not coach them in the same way to give them the magic, to bring the magic out of them. She made them into kind of the worst. And she never – like the key to the Mighty Ducks and the key to most of these sports movies, these underdog sports there, it's passion that

wins out, right? Passion and heart. Scrappy underdogs that work out work everyone. The reason Bombay worked as a coach is because he legitimately loved hockey and he just lost his way and then he found his way back. Alex, it's demonstrated throughout both seasons, never

liked hockey, never wanted to like hockey. You can't have your coach not want to do the thing that we're trying to do here you know what was the stupid ass hashtag that she got all up on her high horse fun put fun first or something but he's season first i think that's what it was putting fun first oh and then nick's which unfortunately accidentally enabled the beast i'm all for pretty fun first that works 100 of time if you're trying to have fun playing the sport she was trying to have fun doing other and not even worrying about hockey uh you know i was actually reflecting back on season one versus season two.

And season one was a serviceable show. I think that we can say that. I think the word you used there was perfect and apt. It was serviceable. Yeah, it wasn't great. It wasn't good. There were tons of gaps. We spent a lot of time talking about how much better it could have been uh but it was serviceable

and engaging and at least wasn't pure torture to get through this was just this was rough and this was an abomination to be completely honest with you the fucking goalie goal like that's there's not a single person that can sit down and watch that and be like, yeah, that is, this is really cool. This is the cool, like there's, like, unless you're just a fucking idiot, then that's fine. Then this show is for you and you can be that way. But otherwise, like if you have a pulse and you understand anything about good cinematic movies, TV shows shows then you would hate this pile of hot garbage yep they like you said earlier they just there's no charm or magic left in it um which you need in these things because obviously the hockey is not going to be great.

Just like in the first movies, the hockey action. Not great. Not great. It doesn't need to be. It doesn't need to be. You get the charm. And you need to connect to these kids. Which, like, in the first three movies, they do a great job of even the side characters, even the Avermans, right?

You connect. There's moments where you're able to connect with them. In this show, like, you know, outside of Nick and Sophie, I guess Sophie you can connect with a little bit. Nick, you can. Evan, maybe. Jace was terrible. They made zero attempt to make that character Likeable at all He was a sad boy fucking nonsense

Troy was a highlight though AJ AJ I thought you were doing a bit there But then I realized you were serious Damn it I could have In my head I talked myself out of the right Fucking name Damn it. But I could have. You know what? In my head, I talked myself out of the right fucking name.

And damn it. All right. So they lost the show. There's no there's no connection. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's zero opportunity. They give you zero opportunity, which is insane in 20 episodes that they give you zero opportunity to connect with these kids.

It's a terrible, terrible character development. Because in season one, you were able to connect with Logan because his dad moved in and that shit sucked. He was making pancakes for the family.

That's true. Again, Emilio was not the only person we lost from season one to season two. We lost a whole bunch of people, and arguably they were the most compelling people, like you mentioned Logan. And I don't know if this was scheduling difficulties why we lost most of these people or if they just wrote them off but we lost logan logan was one of the more interesting kids uh mj and terry mj was legitimately one of the best parts of the show um and i think that sisters they just threw that right out the door yeah we lost lauren um which was another compelling one too yeah the the recreation of the bash sisters was a fun storyline like the bash brothers turned into the bash sisters like that's fun it was good it's like a modern update on it like there's

nothing wrong yeah it worked and you know and it the the main reason it worked is because you had fulton there teaching them for as as brief as it. It was only like a 20 second montage of him teaching them. But you need that. Whereas like same concept terrible execution in season 2 with the knuckle puck. If you're going to do the knuckle puck

Kenan needs to be the one who's teaching them. Kenan has to be the one who teaches them. You can't change the kn them. And you can't change it. You can't change the knuckle puck. You can't change how... You can't be like, hey, this is the knuckle puck that they use. They touch

it every time and then change how the knuckle puck knuckles. Like that... How does that tie anything together? It literally makes no sense. It's like, oh,

so the shot itself has changed from a knuckle puck into a heat seeking missile over the course of the last 20 years. Well, that's the beauty of the knuckle puck. He does. It's different every time. Don't don't, don't fucking defend it.

Brandon. Don't don't defend it. Don't give it. due or its justice. I was offended by that. But speaking of Keenan, did you, and I don't want to date the episode because I can't remember when it's out, but they just announced not too long ago. Good burger too. I saw that.

I saw the announcement of good burger too. Let's let's throw a little cautious optimism out into the world because I thought when Good Burger came out, I was in the throes of my youth. And I thought that that was probably the funniest and best-made movie of all time. Hands down. No question. Who has the rights to Good Burger? Who's remaking it? Is it Paramount? Yeah, because

Paramount owns Nickelodeon. So it's going to be Paramount. Oh, dude. Paramount Plus is just the one. I'm more faith in them than I do Disney now. Oh, 100%. Paramount Plus, though, is the one. it's my line of demarcation

where it's this, okay, this is too many. This is too many fucking streaming services. I got to remember to, I do actually have some beef with FuboTV as well. I don't know what happened, but they didn't have TNT or TBS as part of their package.

So guess who only got a limited amount of the tourney games? This guy. I couldn't watch all of my parlays burn to the cinders in real time. I just had

to watch it on my ESPN app and weep softly into the pillow. Not on my parlays either. It was a rough tournament. It was a real, real blood bath. I think I, I think I ended up hitting on one or two parlays totaling 50 bucks. So I don't think I made any money. I'm not saying I made money. I'm just saying I hit two parlays.

50 bucks. I don't think I hit any of the parlays that I was trying to do, but I was going big with my parlays. I was doing like eight games. Two things in each game parlays. That's where I got it.

I was going for like bet a dollar, win $85,000 parlays. That's what I was going for. Yeah, I was just going to clarify for the listeners you got a couple young gentlemen here that just moved back to colorado and we're dipping our toes into the sports gambling but we are not low stakes money by any my low stakes messiahs right here i say my usual bet is 50 cents yeah that's I go $1 and I usually go between five to 10, no more like parlays.

And sometimes they get up over a hundred bucks. Usually they stay between like 30 to 50. And that is where you get some hitters. Cause that's where I think I won like 200, you get some hits. Right. And then like, it slowly accumulates,

you get like 250 and that's like 250 additional bets. I'm not a slowly accumulator. I'm a get-rich-quick guy. So I do the $1 bet for the $85,000 payout. That's where I'm at. And then you never hit once. Never say never. I sent you that.

Goonies never say die. I sent you that one where the dude did like, I think it was like 15 different college basketball games during the season and it hit and he won like 90 000 by betting one dollar amazing yeah i mean i've got a that could be me he's okay that could be me i've got a little multi-sport part lay in the books for that'll pay out like 250 or something that i've got a dollar on you know which ones I... The ones I always fucking win, though,

that are my dojis when I'm... They don't pay out anything at all, but they're nice to just, you know, it's nice to get a win every once in a while. It's the team who scores first or the team who hits the three first. Those bets. That 50 cents win 55 cents.

Crush those all the time dude 100 accuracy what a waste of time it's it's a good it's a good uh like serotonin and confidence boost you know just gotta get the way you get that w that's that's usually if i do that i'll do i'll do one that'll only pay out like 15 and then i'll get it like yeah 16 bucks killing it i just hit one that won 30 last night all right let's get back on topic sorry back to the back to the story so we reflected on one and two it's canceled we're fine But let's talk about some... We got some issues that we need to resolve, Brandon.

Exactly. There are multiple storylines that they did not wrap up at the end of Season 2 here. I have a couple written down. We're left to wondering. Left to wondering. The first and biggest thing, I think, is what's going on at the Ice Palace.

Yeah. Is Bombay alive? Has the Ice Palace first first and biggest thing i think is what what's going on at the ice palace yeah is bombay alive has the ice palace collapsed down upon him is he the wicked witch of the west we don't know did they rebuild it did was fulton and his construction buddies successful or did they have to did they scrap it you know yeah like where it was like where first of all where did this funding come from like was this more state type funding that they were able to come from with inflation, with the, uh, the rise of building costs? You know, I don't know if you've seen the videos of the potholes in Minnesota, but they can't, you know, be stretching those tax dollars into the ice palace when they've got

pot. Oh, I doubt, I doubt there. I doubt there's, that's a doubt i doubt there i doubt there's that's a privately owned business i doubt there's any taxpayer money to that um i mean alex found surplus where they bought all their equipment and stuff maybe there's a little ice that was for that was for the city hockey league though you know the ice palace i what i imagine happened is he got the name back right? He won the name back. I imagine he used

that. He wrote up a little business plan, right? He was like, I got a hockey team now I got the Ducks here's my business plan for the Ice Palace and then he went to a bank and the bank was like, okay, we'll give you a construction loan to fix this bad boy up. You know what I think

is now going to be deemed a historical structure for the state of Minnesota. Ducks are back. That's not a bad, that could be true. Right? Like the ice. State landmark? The ice palace has been saved because it has become a state

landmark, home of the ducks little sprinkle of tourism there for you brandon and all of a sudden the ice palace like um like so many companies in the 2000s little bailout yeah okay i see i can see that i like that you know your your taxpayer dollars hard at work yeah keep a Keep Bombay afloat. You put a little plaque on the front door, state landmark. Maybe you throw a... Was it Hans or Jan's?

Hans or Jan that gave him the Ice Palace? I forget which one he said it was. I think it was Jan, right? I can't remember. I think Jan. Yeah, so you throw a little... Jan was the most recent Right Jan was

So Jan was D2 Hans is D1 And D3 and he dies in D3 Spoiler alert Joss Ackland is Hans I forget Jan's actor's name But whoever gave him the Ice Palace, if you're making it a state landmark,

throw a little plaque on the front. So you throw the plaque on the front. Host some events. But then you throw... I was going to say throw a statue of Jan out front, but might as well make it Han and Jan's. Throw both of them. Yeah.

It's a statue for brotherhood. Exactly. Minnesota Brotherhood. The city of Scandinavian love. Just came up with a new state slogan. Fits in with the football team. Skull Vikings.

God, don't. You know what? As a lifelong Packers fan, it pisses me off so much on how cool that is. Have you seen the videos of the school biking shit that they do before their football games? Pretty tight. It's pretty cool. They have guests come in and do the stuff. It's so annoying that it's so cool.

You know what I mean? Like you guys could come up with something like that though. Every team has like the weird, like the Panthers. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa. Pump the brakes. Brandon, you are about to besmirch roll out the barrel. My friend, that is what we are going to crank up on those TDs,

baby. Roll out the barrel. We're having a barrel of fun. Is that really what happens? Goddamn right. I literally have a. That's what the Packers do? I literally have a roll out the barrel.

Well, that's how terrible it is that nobody else knows about it. I literally have a roll out. They sing the go, pack, go. Yeah, no, but i'm talking about like the i'm talking i mean that's all fine to go what i was talking about is like the pre-game stuff where you bring a celebrity to do something like you have i've never been to a game so i'm sure they have something like okay i'll say every team makes it's not that cool bullshit bullshit thing um like yeah it's just not as cool as like a school chant like that shit is intense it's it gets you it gets you really fired up but so you

know so does my roll out the barrel packers t-shirt so it's interesting i never knew that about the packers oh dude what's what's what's in the barrel cheese well the acme packers were a meat packing plant did you do you know yeah but you don know? You don't put meat in a barrel. No, it's a German drinking song, Brandon. It's a barrel of beer. Oh, well, just say that when I ask what's in the barrel. I was just being a dick. Okay, so we got a little

topic, but don't talk shit about Roll Out the barrel. It's a dope, dope song. More unanswered questions. So we have the ice palace. What's going on with that? Then we have Nick.

Nick's love life. When we left season one, him and MJ were flirting. They were getting ready to do a little thing. And then season two, he just says we get nothing. He just says that it ended. Right. Like that was it. I don't even think they mentioned mentioned they don't mention mj at all they don't mention it he just

says that he's single yeah he mentioned something about being single he mentions he's single and he's looking for the ladies and then yeah towards the driving his mercedes him and um him and maya have a weird forced thing that didn't make any sense but so what's uh it was all that was was like you know the good guy can get the girl news but he does he doesn't get the girl she's dating paul at the end i mean that paul's a solid guy though that is the perfect depiction like gentlemen take a peek that's exactly how it goes in real life like it's i mean paul paul's not a bad guy, though. From the three seconds we see of Paul in the show, he seems like a stand-up guy.

I'm not besmirching Paul by anything. And he's got a gray head of hair. He was a Best Flow nominee. I'm just floating advice out there for the Knicks of the world. Could it happen? Yes yes one in a million but guess what that 900 and plus whatever chance that's that's mostly what's happening so let's let's just do it that was a quick reality check to to the nicks of the world that like yes feels good and honestly take those wins even getting close but

let's exactly you know you know what you know what him what uh maya being like you know what i had a crush on you a couple a couple episodes ago you know what that is that's his his bet in 50 cents winning 55 cents just nice to win one sometimes you gotta take that win and then you've got to transfer it over into confidence right and then that and then confidence from a girl like maya being like yo there's actually then you take that into something that's a little more in your ballpark realm you might even be able to outkick your coverage as someone who frequently outkicked my coverage it's's possible. But you just got to pick your battles, you know, and you got to know the ones,

the Mayas of the world. It's not it. Not going to do it. Yeah, she's been hopping boys the entire show. She chews up and spits out Nick's for breakfast. Yeah, she would ruin. She would give Nick, because I've dated girls like Maya. She would give nick because i've dated i've

dated girls like maya she would give nick the best six months of his life and then ruin the rest of it yeah ptsd or then on out you always wonder oh that's really good you gotta watch out for those mean girls man they're they're a hell of a lot of fun, but they will ruin you. Oh, God. And we both felt victim to this, that line that Nick has in Mean Girl when he's talking to where he thinks it's Cece's mom. And he's like, would you quit yelling at me? I might fall in love with you. Or I'm going to fall in love with you. Stop being so mean to me or I swear to God I'm going to fall in love with you. Story of life. That perfectly you. Story of my life.

That perfectly describes my dating and my 20s. I have that in my dating app. My bios is that line. That's beautiful. That perfectly describes how I dated throughout my 20s. The fallout is real of those of those habits it's it's right but speaking speaking of relationships we also have like you know alex just very quickly and quietly moved on from bombay to josh dumel and i don't know about you brandon but i think she cheated on him do you

think they broke up that's do you like well were they ever actually together they kissed right bombay and alex i think so it was implied if it wasn't ever stated it was definitely implied they were like holding hands when they had the when they had the shit talk off with coach t that was a little rough around the edges yeah you know coach t did not have his best game there um but yeah it was it was implied and then all of a sudden alex is just driving the kids across the country in a rickety ass rv and making out with the uh coach who she was probably one of the worst employees of the entire camp um so yeah it's that piece i'll never get i'll never like as a manager brandon like that behavior pissed me off we uh yeah and then once they started making out in the

back of the rv we got to let hr know you know we got a sign of disclosure here well yeah well with a superior in a relationship you know with an individual contributor, that's a real dicey situation, you know, as someone who's not to especially. Yes, not a good look, not a good look, especially a direct report, Brandon. That's and not only a direct report, the worst direct report. Yeah, the one who has been undermining your camp throughout the entire time and there's there's just and that's the other piece right like how as as two individuals who love women who are mean as shit to them i still would not tolerate that's the best way to put it, but okay.

So I just, I like a spicy challenge in my life. And like, so if you're not going to like do that, then like, I'm going to get really bored and it's probably not going to work out. And that's just been the trend. And that's why, you know, Kelly and I work so well. She's mean as shit. No, she's sweet as a button, but she doesn't let me just coast through life. She keeps me on my toes. See, I'm a sucker

for the mean girls, but it's not necessarily what I'm looking for. What I'm looking for is what you just described. I need somebody to be like to lay down the law. I just need somebody in my life to be like to lay down the law I just need I need somebody in my life to be like hey Brandon maybe we don't do that

you know see that's the beauty of you know not to shout out Kelly I don't know if she even listens to this anymore but that was the beauty of us is, you know,

when we were dating, she was like, Hey, so we're, we're 31 and we're, we're, we're still throwing down pretty good. Huh?

How do you feel about that? Good, good reflection. The body didn't feel good about it. It was starting to shut down. So we, we started gently retiring from the party life, Brandon.

That's fair. I'm getting too old for that shit to you, dude. Sometimes I'll go out. Like a good brunch? Good bottomless mimosa brunch? Home by five? Have a big dinner so that you're not hungover the next day? That's where I'm at.

If I'm still drinking at 10 30 at night i i need to i need at least two days to recover at least and and like if i am not following my cocktail up with the water it's nightmare all bets all bets are off you know it might be i might be calling the dinosaurs the next morning. Is that what you guys ever call it? Yeah. Rah! Okay.

All right. Back to Alex. We don't know what's going on with that. We also don't know what's going on with Evan and Sophie. So they broke up mid-season right and she and then she gets with jace she gets with jace but then time zones away in middle school there's no fucking way that's in summer i don't think school starts it's over i don't think josh jumel and uh or coach cole and alex the long distance i don't think they're doing that either. Nope. And Jace graduating from sad boy

potentially to happy boy might have a few more ladies knocking on his door. And just like me and you, like the mean girls, Sophie likes the sad boys. So once he's not sad anymore, just like Evan. Evan stopped being sad. She kicked him to the curb.

So... And we tried to coach her up on that too. Like, ladies, do not go for the sad boys, man. They're just going to bring you down. They're going to ruin your life just like the mean girls ruin the guy's life. It's the exact same situation. It's just honestly, it might be a little bit worse. It's worse because then you get sad too.

Yeah, exactly. Like, you will become a reflection of their sadness. And all of a sudden, you're like, wait a second. a little bit worse it's worse because then you get sad too yeah exactly like they will just like you will become a reflection of their sadness and all of a sudden you're like wait a second i i am not a sad person and and and then like you have to like remove this individual like a tumor um and and cut it away yeah to get rid of it but you know let's that's a little relationship advice ladies do not go for the sad boys they will become a tumor of your life exactly hopefully sophie learns that uh but but so turn the tiktok camera on moment brandon there you go but so she we're assuming long

distance her and her and jace are not they're not gonna they're not continuing this. And Nick has a throwaway line right when they're getting out of the RV where he's like, hey, you and her 14 hours all alone in an RV to Evan. Are they back together? We don't know. We'll never know.

She already has that pizza at his heart. That's true. I forgot about the pizza necklace. She's got that. Did she keep it or did she toss it? I don't know. It'd be a stone cold move if she tossed that pizza necklace. Do you think she threw it in the

lake like Titanic? Near far wherever you are. I can fuck with some Celine. Far Wherever You are I can fuck with some Celine Celine's a national treasure If you're Canadian

She's a national treasure If you're not then she's a Canadian treasure She's a Canadian treasure International treasure Back when I was in elementary And middle school She was putting some real bangers out you know when i was in elementary and in middle school she was putting some real bangers out consistently and mama d was usually down with them so we would crank those bad boys up in the she's the ford wind star is she still doing because i know she

was doing the residency was she she got real sick man did she okay you know shout out celine i hope she's doing okay but she got like real sick i think she's probably not doing the vegas thing anymore i know she was doing that for like decades she was performing in vegas like every night usher has a residency in vegas i was gonna try and go but it's kind of expensive it's like those things those things are pricey the backstreet boys did it for like a year or two yeah um shit was just pricey man you know what concert now let me know if you want to try and jump in on this but i think me and heidi are going to try and get out to the iowa state fair for new kids on the block none of that sounds appealing at all

hanging tough you lost you lost me at iowa and then you lost me even further at New Kids on the Block. Listen, no one is more upset about the fact that I'd have to go to Iowa for it, but it is the only New Kids on the Block concert scheduled for this year. And so I think that, you know, me and Heidi are going to go potentially go throw down. I'll pass. I'm set. All right, fine. Whatever. All right all right well speaking of really awesome things let's talk about some new additions to the ducks lore as a terrible transition but it's terrible but we we did have the the season wasn't uh all terrible although some of the season two was season two is completely terrible there's nothing good about it but season one was salvageable season two wasn't a hundred percent terrible it was morning marnie

was kick-ass only because we needed her to and like i don't know i can't give anything i can't give i'm i reflected on it this morning brandon Season two will get no positivity from me from here on out. They did it. They fucked it up. They need to own this. We have moved away from a world of accountability, and this is Disney's accountability, is me in this podcast. The reckoning hath come. Thank you.

You're doing the Lord's work we appreciate it hallelujah um but but they did the season one added a bunch of new things um to the mighty duck universe mighty duck lore is what i have in my notes we're going to call it that mighty duck lore um and for for everybody who's a little confused like mighty we talking things like the Flying V, the Knuckle Puck. I don't know what else. The Fulton shot. I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

The Fulton slash. Just like cool one-off little things. Well, not one-offs, but cool little things that they gave to us. So I have a couple of additions from season one. We had Logan's spatula shot um order up i forgot i forgot he had the fucking catchphrase before he did it yeah order up yeah it's knuckleback time transition to order up and that was good that was it was damn it and they had the whole pancake episode before that

where it was just they were make remember those crazy ass pancakes they were making with fucking gummy worms and shit which is a little dicey but like man you know a little chocolate in that pancake and be all right yeah well they had a whole like candy bar setup you know i'm sure somebody was throwing some chocolates in there oh my god what a journey that would have been for the kiddos too you know just i know you critiqued me having almonds in my pancakes but you know i stand by it because i've had you know pecan pancakes and they're just fine a little crunch in them you put it on top for sure like a little little shaved almonds on top um but i was criticizing you like throwing it in the batter and cooking it up you know that's where like that's where you lost me just um put it on top like a little little dress

you know all right so the specialist shot we also had uh bombay's um, disgraced college coaching career where he got fired. And then season one had all of the sick-ass team names, like the Maroon Marauders, Arctic Freeze, Nova Stars, Viper Freeze, Arctic Devils. It was Arctic Devils, not Arctic Freeze. Yeah. And then what else were some other ones? They're just amazing.

Go back and listen to episode 10 when we cover that. We talked about the team names for a good 45 minutes. They had the Leaping Cougars and all kinds of shit. I think it was Flying Cougars. Flying Cougars. That's what it was.

I was like, how does a cougar fly? Clearly, you've never been attacked by a cougar because those motherfuckers come at you. Dude, don't even say that out loud. I'm trying to get into where I live. Catamount? Brandon, don't.

There's like 18 million different names for cougars and I love every single one of them. They're all fantastic. Catamounts might be my favorite though. I'm trying to get into a hiking routine and I keep like, I don't know if TikTok or Instagram just, you know, obviously they heard me say it. And so now I'm getting like cougars on the hiking trail videos. It's like, oh, okay, cool. You're right.

I'm not going to fucking go hiking. The house I grew up in for middle school and high school. hiking trail videos it's like oh okay cool you're right i'm not gonna go hiking the the house the the house i grew up in for middle school and high school so my like my second house growing up um we had a little um open space right behind the neighborhood nice so many cougars dude so many cougars there was they they would post like 18 signs everywhere. Watch out for the fucking cougars. People still die though. It was rough. You got to watch out, man.

Cougars and rattlesnakes. Make yourself big. Don't turn your back. That's the key. Don't ever fucking turn your back. Maintain eye contact with them. Once you turn your back, you're done-zo, though. Oh, yeah. They're going to fucking come eat you. Don't turn and run.

Anyways, so season two, not a lot added to the lore, I don't believe, other than... They changed the knuckle puck. They changed the knuckle puck. We had the elite performance ice center. Yeah. The mighty

Anaheim Ducks inside of their arena at the Honda Center have a dedicated corridor to the in-universe Mighty Ducks. That's nice. That's kind of cool. Yeah, that's nice. Even if we all know

that they're not touching the lucky knuckle puck before they go that corridor is probably not there in real life but you know and i love that they had a cut they had a huge poster of coach orion with yeah so that was cool that's no bombay they had a couple photos of bombay did they oh yeah well either way they had a they had a ton of like that whole like hallway they were walking down it was all like photos from d2 um yeah and then um and then the most important addition to this mighty duck lore he's your favorite of all time the goose the goose play The Goose. The Goose play. Honk, honk.

That's a pretty solid fucking... That was a pretty solid honk, honk. You gotta give that to me. That was fucking... The honk, honk was great, but I re-watched that fucking play just the other day, actually. Like, when... I was like, I was cutting up clips for TikTok,

and I cut up that clip. And yeah, it's rough to watch. It might be the worst hockey clip I have ever seen in the history of all. I think one of us said this in the clip that I cut. But it is so much more egregious than the knuckle puck or the flying view like those plays are ridiculous and absurd but this one went to light like those were like a like a seven on the absurd scale this goose plays like a 15 out of 10 of absurdness and and we're supposed to believe that at the elite of elite hockey camp that these shit like this this show performance ice center is a direct reflection of what is wrong with everything brandon it's why do you think shenanigan things like this would work out like a hockey camp where it's like premier

athletes that are cut. Like it's just, there's not a, there's not a, a chance in hell where the team that's on offense, right. Would send all five of their players behind the net. There's not a net there's not a

you wouldn't find that in if you put three year olds out there playing hockey that wouldn't happen it was just and the way that they delivered

it of you know what sideways is the goalie scoring. That's true. We haven't even talked about the fact that Koob is the one who fucking scores. That pissed me off so much when

they were doing the whole training montage at the Honda Center and he skates up and he goes, I want to score a goal. Yeah. Wouldn't that be sideways? Because remember, that's what they did. You know what? If you want to score a goal, Coop, how about you do everybody a favor

and you stop playing goalie? How about you do that? Go on defense. Pull a Goldberg when he wised up and realized he couldn't be goalie anymore. Switch to D and then you can score your fucking goal okay

anyways unbelievable speaking of how terrible this show is Brandon let's dig into what the rest of the masses also say to agree with us because just to leave this off for the listeners brandon read a

few of these and one of my favorite highlights is a 10 out of 10 rating that reads as a 1 out of 10 that's that is that is the that is how you can fully encapsulate everyone's feelings of the show is that somehow this idiot rated this a 10 out of 10 and gave it a 1 out of 10 speech. I dove into the IMDb reviews and like Heath said, there's actually some really good

some really fantastic reviews. The one Heath's talking about, I'll go read this one first. Let me see if I can find it. Where was it? Here we go. So 10 out of 10 10 stars out of 10 on imdb um from user superman dash 31514 this was written in um november of 2021 so this was before season two came out even. Wow. But it's 10 out of 10 title. This is,

this was a great show period. And the review is as follows. Why all capital letters, would you get rid of the main all capital letters person? I'm actually super upset about this. I was so happy about a season two, but now that Emilio will not be in it what's the point hire back the best part of the show where you will lose a ton of viewers poor decisions just cancel the show or bring back the main part of it such a shame that was a 10 out

of 10 so this is the perfectly written review except it's a 10 out of 10. If this was a 4 out of 10 or a 3 out of 10, this would be the perfect review. Now that I'm reading it again, it's making a little more sense. So he's giving season 1 a 10 out of 10, I believe. And then lamenting the decision to not bring back Bombay postseason. Yes, because he wrote it before season 2 started. But you need to have your rating reflect that decision proact yeah no go go back in and edit that superman yeah um yeah so and then so there's there's a couple more great reviews um this this this one from vanessa from Vanessa. Do you think it's Vanessa Hutchinson?

No, it's Vanessa-892-220070. Is that Morse code for Hutchins? Yeah, I think so. Hutchins, that's right. What did you say? Hutchinson. There's no sun at the end. But so, 1 out of 10.

Titled, Creating Mighty Gen Z Snow snowflakes. And it goes as follows. Terrible acting from Disney channel, Gen Z first gig kids and adults who act like they are still in high school. I mean, the kids,

the kids are not even in high school yet. Oh, no, I'm sorry. That was specifically about the adults. Yeah. The adults act like they're still in high school, but the kids... She's going for blood with Lauren Graham here.

Yeah, Vanessa. But so it continues, the premise somewhat demonizes hard work as well as dedication to youth sports, which seems to praise the participation award you now receive. I understand the underdog storyline continues from the original Mighty Ducks movies, but the writers are creating snowflakes for future generations. Playing sports is supposed to be fun, especially as a kid, but the mom focuses way too much on doing whatever feels good, giving out participation awards, and doesn't care to actually learn the sport or rules that her son dedicates his pastime to. The first was all right since they brought back emilio but replaced him with josh dumell in the second season not keeping up with the

mighty ducks legacy disney plus needs to come up with their own material that is kid-friendly promotes good family-friendly values and doesn't focus so much on revamping and reinventing the wheel. Damn, Vanessa. Vanessa, shout out. She said exactly what we wanted to this whole time. I mean, she called out a lot of points that we made, though, right? Yeah. And a lot more

eloquently. Time-friendly, too. She didn't take 18 months to get through the show. There's a couple more good ones here. Let me see. Shout out Vanessa. That's good stuff. There we go. Eric T gives it a 2 out of 10.

He titled another Disney PC social nonsense project. It's titled Another Disney PC Social Nonsense Project. I don't think there was that much social programming outside of just, you know, deciding that hard work is a terrible thing and that wanting to be good at something that you're passionate about is also terrible. And, you know, just any time you need to accomplish anything, you just need to feel it and it will feel your way into existence. That's. I don't know.

Well, let's see what Eric T has to say. All right. Come on. Spoilers here though. It's this review is Eric's words, not mine, but problematic,

not gonna not taking credit for any of this. Let's show, should we, is there a different one? It's words, not mine, a bit problematic. Not taking credit for any of this. Should we skip? Is there a different one? It's not too terrible, but there's just some stuff now that I'm reading it again. I was like, oh shoot, this is probably... But anyway, season one was alright.

Majorly watched for Bombay. Season two without Bombay is like, what's the point? Even a few of the kid actors from Season 1 didn't return. And then in parentheses, the story gets a little weird. Jock, who couldn't skate. Nerd Girl. An African-American kid who crashed into everything.

In parentheses. Well, that's Sam, but Sam came back. That's true. Sam did come back. So then it goes, which isn't all that surprising if all season two ends up being just like the first couple episodes the new season

there will not be a season three called it as usual disney's pushing a lot of pc social nonsense into other projects just to cater to pr the mother has gone from bad to worse in this new season a full-blown delicate self-righteous push over push over by the kids karen damn the kid who was the main character in season one is no longer the main in season two

that's not true and it's still the main character it's starting to seem like his his boyfriend who did the podcast in season one being heavily focused on in season two with his excessive and idiot okay that's that's why i draw the line don't go after nick yeah come on eric his comic relief him and marty's comic relief are the only things keeping this show together yeah Yeah. And Nick and Evan's friendship. Like what's wrong with, with boys being friends. In Eric's defense, I'm pretty sure in one of the episodes you did call Nick Evan's boyfriend.

On accident. And even if they do develop into, you know, a love. There's a lot of factual areas in this. Evan is still very much the main character. Yeah, a lot of the story revolves around him separating

himself from the ducks. They just did it in a terrible, terrible, terrible way. Like you said, Sam is back. This dude stopped watching after the first episode and just wanted to roast Disney for being

trash, which fair, right? Like fair criticism. Disney has done a terrible job with all of their shows recently. Like it really has soured so many people. The only reason I still have the Disney Plus package is for like the older stuff. You know, like I just watched Bedknobs and Broomsticks the other night. That movie is a banger.

I have the... Swiss Family Robinsoninson that's a good one too i used to love that movie as a kid when they fought the pirates at the end yeah had the coconut bombs i have the like the disney espn hulu the whole like club that package yeah same because i would like to watch the bundesliga yeah i i'm soccer league i have it for espn plus um if that wasn't like packaged together i would i wouldn't have hulu or or disney plus i know i did the you know just as a news flash for anyone looking to do verizon i didn't realize when you do the disney plus bundle through your verizon package they make you do the hulu with the commercials oh yeah they give you the the Disney Plus bundle through your Verizon package, they make you do the Hulu with the fucking commercials. Oh, yeah.

They give you the bullshit one. Yep. And now I'm pissed that I switched over because, god damn it. Commercials are for peasants. Not in my house. Now it's too late. Too fucking late.

So for these streaming services, I'm a big fan of paying for the year all at once if possible I do that with Peacock and Paramount I steal HBO but I do that with Paramount and Peacock I pay for

$150 or whatever for the whole year you get a big discount for doing it. Yeah, and it's easier. Then it's a one-time thing. It's not taking out of my thing every month. But my beef with Disney is you can only do that with the ad version of Hulu. If you're doing the ad-free version of Hulu, you have to do it by month.

You can't pay for the whole year. Fucking bullshit. We don't need any other reason to lambast Disney for being the worst. Those were some of the good reviews. There's a lot of hilarious reviews in there. I highly recommend. Feel free to...

I would encourage our listeners to jump in there and give Game Changers a taste of their... I'll read one more. Another one out of ten. I would encourage our listeners to jump in there and give game changers. I'll read, I'll read one more, another one out of 10 because I just, I just looked at it and it's pretty hilarious. So it's one out of 10.

It's by frankly, my dear, I don't give a is the username title is please put the show out of its misery. It was written in at the end of january so it was before they actually canceled it um so it says disney has ruined an iconic piece of ip in their shoddy attempts to rebrand the mighty ducks cancel the show fire the writers and cast and bring back bombay in a fourth movie or something you have given us millennials who adored this legacy and character nightmares over this drivel and what Bombay all of a sudden

has no legal wherewithal give me a break and can we please move on from Bombay wants to bang my mom trope that's the most important character quality he has leave Bombay and his moms alone man like this review was

going great until he came after Bombay I will agree that the Alex we alex we talked about the alex and bombay it was too fell flat it fell flat but so then it goes on especially with the current co-star whom they reduced to a ridiculous story they did they did lauren graham real dirty in this show oh my god her character is the most unlikable character and in all of tv and I have not disliked a character more than the mom from Breaking Bad I've said this before those her and Alex are right up there as two of my least favorite characters on TV you and your you and your hate for Skyler Skyler did nothing wrong Skyler was the Skyler deserved better sometimes you just gotta cook meth brain and just get over it

yeah but if you're gonna cook meth Let your fucking wife know about it Don't fucking keep her in the dark Not if she's gonna be a real fun sponge about it Once she found out And she started helping out She was not a fun sponge She was doing the whole fucking car wash thing for him

Anyway The review keeps going on The last couple months Please fix this Bombay deserves better We deserve better anyway the the review keeps going on the last couple lines says please fix this bombay deserves better we deserve better and then the last line spoiler alert don't bother uh heard that yeah so that's a lot so that's the last review um again highly recommend going through some of them. They're pretty delightful. But despite all those terrible reviews, the show as a whole, the average rating for the first show, seasons one, season two combined, do you have a guess on what IMDB's rating for the show is?

Yes, because I've looked at it, so I'm not going to guess. Son of a bitch then. Okay. Way to for the show is. Yes, because I've looked at it, so I'm not going to guess. Son of a bitch then. Okay. Way to ruin the segment here. What is it, though? Break the news. It is an unfortunate 7.3. It's very high. Very high.

Very generous. Listen, it has been proven and by proven i mean i think that i saw something about it a long time ago i read about it on facebook i haven't been logged in on facebook but that's exactly where this is going i know that there are is an arsenal of Disney interns just ripping through IMDB creating accounts I doubt it's interns I doubt it's interns, it's bots

dude, it's there's an AI software you're right they've 100% outsourced this to China I got a fact for you stat a stat here about the reviews. This is just IMDB. It's a 7.3 average rating. If you had to guess, what do you think the...

So I forgot. So I went through and looked at the stats on the ratings. Okay. So there's 5,000 and a half. So 5,500 total reviews on IMDb. Okay. Okay. Of those 5,500 reviews, what is your guess on how many are 10-star reviews? Now, keep in mind, there was the 10 out of 10.

That was actually a 0 out of 10. So... What percentage? Percentage or actual numeric value. I'll take either. 1,000 10 star reviews. Yes. It's 1,102

to be exact. 20% of reviews, 10 stars, 10 out of 10. 20% of Americans are idiots. Yeah, it's very generous. Or the world, I guess. But if you go through, I'll go through IMDb real quick here for each kind of episode. And you can see the theme here right so season one episode one 7.5 stars episode 2 7.4 episode 3 7.8 episode 4 7.6 episode 5 was 7.7 um episode 6 Spirit of the Ducks 8.9 highest rated episode

then the next one episode 7 Pond Hockey 7.5 episode 8 7.9 episode 9 7.4 and then the season finale State of Play actually got an 8.3 but those are

realistic ratings those are so season 2 got an 8.3. That's realistic ratings. Those are season two. We take a dip here. Not as big of a dip as you would think, but episode one, 6.8, 6.7 for

episode two, 6.8 for episode three, draft day. Episode four has got a seven, even seven on the dot. Episode five, 6.6, episode four, has got a seven even. Seven on the dot. Episode five, 6.6. Episode six, 6.9. Spirit of the Ducks Part Two is a 7.4. That's the highest.

Because a lot of people watched it to get disappointed. And that's, again, the highest rated episode of that season. And then episode eight, 6.8. Episode 9, the dead mom episode, it gets a 7 even. And then season finale, 7.2. So season 2 definitely takes a dip

rating-wise. Not as much as it should have, though. Definitely not as much as it should have. And again, Spirit of the Ducks. That's what everybody wants, is the goddamn magic. And they won't give it to us. They won't give it to us. So that's IMDb.

That's the episode rankings. I also have pulled up some Rotten Tomatoes here, Heath, for you. Season one. Rotten Tomatoes. Audience score of 78%. Do you want to take a... So that's a 7.8, essentially.

You want to take a guess at what the critics rated it. Ooh. 40%. 87. Ugh. Paid off. 87. It's certified fresh

for season 1 season 1 season 2 um audience score 60% so 6.0 still very generous

but quite a bit of a drop off from season one. Now, here's the real question for you, Heath. This will show you exactly how much Disney paid off. Exactly how much Disney cared about this show towards the end here. Do you want to know? Do you want to take a guess at what the critics rating for season two is? Oh, my God.

You're hinting that they didn't pay off the critics for this show. Is it a five? 50? There is no rating because there's not enough critic ratings to give an average score. No critics reviewed it enough to give it an an actual weighted score it was so bad that critics literally refused to watch this trash yep there's only there's on rock tomatoes there's only only two critics reviewed it. Two. That's unbelievable, actually.

Like, two critics for a TV series. Because usually the critic reviews, like you said, are Disney reaching out and paying critics to watch it and review it. So yeah, for season two, they were like, fuck this. We're not even trying.

It's not even worth the money. We're in budget cuts. We gotta just get this shit off the books. Yeah. That being said, though, Heath, the Game Changers did

receive a few accolades. I don't know if you looked at any of the award nominations, um, but they have, um, they were nominated the last, the last,

uh, couple of years for a couple of different awards. So 2001, they were, they were, uh, they were nominated and won a reframe stamp award no fucking clue what that is but it was for the uh uh top scripted tv uh shows um reframe stamp award

gross that was paid for they won that probably made up award 2022 the oritos award they were nominated but did not win for outstanding achievement in casting yeah i like the cast of season one that makes sense yeah um 2023 so this just this just this year, they were nominated for the Kids' Choice Awards. Two awards. Favorite Kids TV Show, they were nominated. And then Brady Noon, who plays Evan, was nominated for Favorite Male Kid TV Star. Kids' Choice Awards are fake, so it doesn't matter. Isn't that Nickelodeon though yeah so rivals dude

and this look at nominate weird they paid for that probably all right let's let's start wrapping this up this is this is we're we're reaching so so where where do we go where do we go from here, Heath? Are they... Season 2's cancelled. There's no plans. Definitely no plans for Season 3. I doubt... There's no rumblings or anything for other additional plans. So the IP is

going dormant for a little while here. I think that they will lay dormant long enough for the stink to get removed from this and then once that does then they go in for a d4 right before bombay dies like an elder bombay type of d4 so we're probably looking at like right before are they gonna what if they don't time it well enough what if Bombay dies we'll have to like they can the AI

I wish no ill will to Emilio I love Emilio I would take a bullet for Emilio Brandon if you think they can't CGI Bombay back into the Matrix for a movie they could do a Paul Walker yeah they could cast Charlie Sheen and just put Emilio's face back into the Matrix for a D4 movie. They could do a Paul Walker. They could

cast Charlie Sheen and just put Emilio's face on him. Yeah, they already have created an AI of Bombay after he did not conform to their season 2 demand. So you think they come back with a movie? I think they come back with a D4 movie and they try to remove themselves.

Because that last Rotten Tomatoes, the fact that they are just trying to hide from Rotten Tomatoes with this show, it says everything that you need to know. They for sure did not care uh about this show towards the end because like yeah they like we with the run tomatoes they're not paying anybody to review it they're not paying for really any publicity for it with the when they announced the cancellation they announced it with like it was it's it wasn't its own announcement it was buried in a huge disney announcement it was like a paragraph focused on the john stamos show even that like there was a whole bunch of other stuff they announced with it at the same time yeah um it was just like one little paragraph at the end where it was like oh

hey by the way john stamos and the mighty ducks are gone yeah um over so yeah they they gave up on it for sure hardcore gave up on it yeah it. But that's my thought, Brandon. I think that it lays dormant. I think they try and move on from this. And I think they try to recapture the magic through a movie. Hopefully it's well done. That it's, you know, where it's Bombay comes back to the beleaguered ducks and it's another phoenix rising from the ashes story to either get it kick-started or to just kind of wrap it up one

final time with bombay you think they do okay so you're saying they do a d4 a continuation right so i like a one final bombay piece i i think that they either do oh you're gonna do what one final one okay yeah like one five like what well like just like a d4 like one final one for bombay or they'll wait long enough and like it'll be 20 40 and it's going to be post bombay and they do a new trilogy of the mighty ducks movies and they try and like keep it much more similar to the original so i i think i think they'll i think this will go dormant for a while a decade or so maybe a little less i don't know but that would be my my guess would be about a decade let this go dormant my thoughts are though I don't think they'll do a d4

I think they'll just straight reboot it you know how they did it yeah well I don't know if I think they'll reboot the first one like they did with like Bad News Bears and shit where it's like a complete remake pretty much to the T

I don't think it'll do well enough for them to keep making more though. I think it'll be... Okay, you think they'll go Bad News Bears where they'll just make a modern version of the old movie. Instead of trying to remake it and piss everyone off,

they'll just make a modern version. But now that everything pisses everyone off, them just making the modern version of it is going to piss everyone off anyways. Cause like the, who knows where those are casting. And I mean, these,

these things, these like remakes and reboots, you can't like, there's, there's no, there's no winning. Like, even if this,

even if game changers was the best fucking show turned out to be the best fucking show in the world it's like yeah but it's not it's still like yeah but you know nostalgia always wins out yeah but that that's my thinking is they'll they'll do a like a modern reboot

um instead of a continuation of the stories i would love though i would i love your idea of like a like a final d4 bombay send-off yeah you know because then as he's dying you get the funeral yeah no no no no oh you're going you're you're fading away we're whispering him into whisper him into the grave yeah goodbye goodbye ducks yeah but and then and then so and this is my thought brandon because then once you end it and have like a final run with bombay then us as like the elder millennials we in our minds we we will

feel more wrapped up and more willing to move on to a potential new trilogy a new version because they need a new version because you know like the magic and that's where you can start it the magic died with bombay who can rekindle the spirit? And it's like, you know, Tom Holland comes in and he's on the top of my mind because he's a Tottenham fan. So I've been, you know, now that I've adopted them as my, and it turns out they're terrible and they never win. So it's exactly the perfect team for me to accidentally choose. Like it was, it was serendipitous. I was meant to do the team that just never quite wins good, but never quite wins. Um, but that's, that's my, you know, and then Tom Holland comes in same kind

of like, just do the exact same story. Tom Holland gets a community service and it's like oh my god the ducks have fallen into complete disrepair the magic died with bombay and they've gone back to district five and now they've got to get rebranded into and and tom holland is like Tom Duxworth. Tom Duxworth has like a Bombay story. Okay. Interesting. I can get behind it.

I can get behind it. So anyways, all right, let's just, let's wrap it up. Yeah. We'll wrap this up. Speaking of the kind of pitches and everything though,

next episode, we are going to bring our pitches on how to fix game changers directly to you so I like I have a pitch for season three how you can you can take this crap of a season two and spin it into a fun season three slash season

four I have my plans for season three ideas for season four tune in next week to get the full story and heath i think you have a couple pitches on how to fix stuff too as well dude the heath hbo max version of this show is gonna be fucking legit i can tell you that he's gonna hit you with unrealistic uh fantasy booking i'm to hit you with a legit season three pitch that hopefully the Disney execs are listening to and they hire me

and don't steal my idea. I've contemplated reaching out to our boy, friend of the program, Mark Chavez, who is a writer and a comedian. He's got lots of experience. I might tap him and be like, hey, Mark, I need a comedian. He's got lots of experience. I might tap him and be like, hey, Mark, I need

a partner. I need to collaborate. Keith is dragging me down. I need a new writing partner. Come help me with this. It's fucked, man. All right, whatever. Pitches next week. Pitches get stitches, Brandon. Thanks for listening, everyone.

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