The Cake Eaters - 7. Game Changers Episode 7: Pond Hockey

Episode Date: July 13, 2021

Heath & Brandon discuss the benefits of Alpaca fur, how to properly make a friendship bracelet, if it is possible to outskate a bear, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, and then break down the rest of Episode 7 of the new Mighty Ducks: Game Changers series on Disney+.   Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram (@thecakeeaterspod)   Email us at [e-mail]

It's not worth winning if you can't win! On this episode of The Cake Eaters, we're going to be talking about some good old-fashioned pond hockey. A little ODR action. You know, this is episode 7 of The Game Changers. My name is Brandon. My name's Heath. Let's get it started. Let's do it. Let's dig in.

Pond hockey, man. Some ODR action. But first, let's not get too ahead of ourselves here, Brandon. I'm going to slam on the brakes here for a second because before we get into the pond hockey, we got a little bit of tea. We've got the Kermit the Frog emoji sipping on the Lipton tea. It's happening right now.

Drama in the building. Evan is a drama llama. Even though this podcast does prefer alpacas, not a big deal. Evan is bringing the drama. Nothing rhymes with alpacas though. That's the problem. They needed a better name. They needed

some better brand management. Although I bought a pair of alpaca socks and those things are just so soft and so warm. It's a delightful winter sock. Alpacas are head and shoulders better than llamas in every single aspect except for the name. Exactly.

I could not agree with you more. And for any listeners out there in the cold weather states, hop on know hop on amazon you know or support a local business online grab yourself some i get i i guarantee you i guarantee you if you're in the midwest there's a local alpaca farm not too far from you you can find hit a farmer's market exactly there'll be an alpaca farmer there with some socks support local business that's hey that's a world shop small hashtag shop small i'm all about that farmer's market. I would go to this one down the road, get a nice little quiche. I got a duck confit type of pastry.

It was delightful. A duck confit pastry? Yeah, it was crazy. It was like some cheese and some mushrooms and some onions. You know, we'll have a spinoff foodie podcast where I just talk about all the crazy, delicious stuff I eat that makes me fat. Okay, I look forward to it, Heath. I look forward to it.

So anyways, back to the podcast. So we've got drama. It's in the works. And like, honestly, Sophie should be super pissed. And she does that one thing and she calls him out. Evan, after all this work, all this effort, the whining

and dining at the pizza place, the dramatic delivery of the jersey. That's such a slick move, dude. That was such a slick move. It was. It really was. And that's why the waitress thought it was like a little romantic trance going on.

Yeah, yeah. So anyways, I love Lauren, too. The next time, she's like, this whole place smells like betrayal. Kids, were we that dramatic as kids, or are kids just this dramatic now? Oh, I think we were definitely this dramatic for sure. Okay. Because I love Lauren. She's secretly becoming one of my favorite characters. Oh, yeah. She's fantastic.

She kills it. She has a couple different lines. She has the... It smells like betrayal in here. There's another right after the players only meeting Alex is... Alex says something like are we... She says something about like are we building right after the players only meeting uh alex is trying to skip ahead but alex is alex says something like are we she says something about like are we building are we building our bridges

back together or something like that and lauren shouts i mean they would be bridges built on lies i love lauren she is she is she's really coming into her own as a character. And you'll love to see it. You'll love to see it. We've got Logan. Okay, so one thing I noticed too, Logan's always behind the bar. He must be our foodie. He must be our food critique because he's always behind the bar. I don't know if you noticed that. Yeah.

Okay. Well, because he lives with a single dad. I'm sure he's cooking all the time at home. Yeah. I mean, when he, when he's out there whining and dining delivery drivers, she can't be behind the bar all the time. That's true. I hope someone's checked on Logan's dad because he was,

he was in rough shape, like three episodes. Someone go check on that guy. But Logan also, you know, don't let his joyful eyes fool you. He is, he's feeling betrayed. Like everyone feels like Evan is Brute, Brutus, and the team is Caesar. And he has stabbed them all in the back. Except for Nick.

Nick is 100% ready to forgive him. But he's going with the group, though. He's following Sophie's lead. Once Sophie says it's cool to forgive him, Nick is 100% ready. Yeah, Nick's going to go with the flow. But before we see Nick, we see Sam looking just distraught. I don't think this threw me for a loop. I was like, why do we have the wild card?

Like, maybe he is just a gentle soul under that wild exterior. Yes. Yeah. I think that's what they're going for is he's – the reason he's a bit of a wild card is because, yeah, because he's a gentle soul. He feels a little bit – I think they're kind of going for like he – it's mostly done at like attention seeking. Like people don't – you know, that kind of stuff. But but he's never had a friend group right that's what he says later not just yes yeah he's never had somebody what does he say he's never had somebody value what he brings to the table something like that is what he says yeah no one values the wild card

they put padding on you and throw you in the corner exactly yeah and so i so this started off it's the episode starts off with sad sam sam's like real fucking sad he's not talking to anybody he's just on his phone he's ignoring the world real upset and so i has a great line in there where uh sam likes to skateboard into nick he's either crashing into walls or Nick. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Ski boarded into Nick quite a few times. I don't see Nick being quick on his feet. So he's probably easy prey. Exactly. Or it could just be, you know, accident. Cause he's not quick on his feet.

He's definitely somebody who strikes me as somebody who would like walk into the, the, the danger zone unwillingly and then just not be able to move out of the way. But so I was hoping the way this started out i was hoping for like a sam episode i was hoping we would get some full-on backstory with sam similar to how we've gotten you know similar episodes with the other kids but that doesn't really happen no he's just he's just in the background being sad yeah he's just he's looking super sad. Yeah, he's looking super sad.

And then Evan's nervous to come in. He's been pacing around the building. They've been taking laps around the building. And then finally they decide, all right, cool. Let's just get in here. And Alex has a great line where she says, hey, it looks like you're getting ready to bother. The team just has the ultimate fuck off expressions on their face. This is happening. Like I, like just staring daggers through,

through them. And I gotta be honest with you. I love the level of petty this, this team hits because Evan kind of deserves it. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the one who started this whole thing. Just kiss to Alex or give you birth to a traitor. Oh, yeah.

And then Nick has another great line where he's pretty much ready to forgive Evan right away. He's even like, oh, no, we're not even that mad anymore and then all the other kids glare at him and he goes oh wait no no no we're still mad you can get bent evan yeah get bent let's let's bring that back yeah that is excellent i'm gonna

start telling you to get bent whenever i i don't want to do something. Okay. Yeah, we should definitely bring that back. That's great. Hey, Heath, let's record. Get Ben. Let's do it tomorrow. And, like, Lauren is getting very savage. You know, I love that, too. Like, she's really starting to dig in. And so Alex sees all this tension. She feels it building.

She feels the anger. And, you know, they're 12-year-olds. They don't know how to express themselves. And so she decides players only meeting, which to me seems like a total disaster. Because I don't know about you, but, like, when I was 12, me and my friends would, like, take turns hitting each other in the arm to see, like, how far we could go until it hurt. And, like, you're going to throw those types of kids in a room together that are super pissed at each other to figure it out? Honestly, it's dangerous. It's a classic coach move, though.

It's players-only meeting. You know? Because it's – with 12-year-olds, it's a little iffy, but it's the best way to get over these things. And it was working until she cut it early, you know? Listen, I trust LeBron in a players-only meeting. I don't trust Evan. I definitely don I trust LeBron in a players-only meeting. I don't trust Evan. I definitely don't trust LeBron in a players-only meeting.

But he's going to leak something on Twitter right afterwards? LeBron himself is not – he's not even a player only. He's like the coach and the GM, you know. Yeah, I don't trust LeBron. Well, it's not him. You know who I do trust? I trust Nick. Nick the Stank will never let you down.

LeBron's people will leak something if you're being trash. Just don't be a trash player. Players only meeting, that's a classic move. It's a good way to squash these kind of things. It's a great callback to Coach T's other show, Letterkenny. A lot of player-only meetings in that show, and they work. They're fantastic. That's true. When the Pheasants weren't playing well, they hit all the players-only meetings they could. Yes. Well, so the best part of the Letterkenny player-only meetings is the coach would always randomly come in in the middle

of it, and they'd be like, coach, players only meeting. And then he'd be like, oh, my bad, my bad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I want to go over there. Let me get out of here. I don't want to interrupt it. Which is exactly what Alex did because it was working. They were communicating, granted in a very hostile tone,

but everybody was venting. They were getting it out. They were airing their grievances. It was starting to turn to work. And even Bombay was like, this is like your coaching instinct is spot on. Don't stop it. Let them fight to the death. And then they'll move on, you know?

Death match definitely got into her head when he said that. Yeah, yeah. But it was working, and she cut it off early. Her walking in and stopping it is why that didn't work not because it wasn't gonna work i do have to say though it should shouldn't have been needed because evan had the most weak ass apology that he just kept doubling tripling quadrupling down on which was guys it was only one practice you shouldn't be mad you should be getting over it you know what that does that pisses people off more when you tell which was, guys, it was only one practice. You shouldn't be mad.

You should be getting over it. You know what that does? That pisses people off more. When you tell, hey, Brandon, I know you're really pissed at this, but you shouldn't be like, oh, cool, thank you. Thank you. I'm actually not pissed anymore. I'd be like, hey, you know what you should do? You should fuck off because I'm mad.

Don't tell me I shouldn't be mad. Yeah, get bent. It's like we have to come together to win the next to win the next game i i also love when bombay comes in and he's like hey where the hell is everyone i did stuff like i've set up phones i had practice i got off i got off my couch for the first time in six years where's the communication like do you not see my love yeah but yeah evan constantly going around and invalidating everybody's feelings it was not a good way to kind of brush it over and he kept using the uh he kept using the the phrase it

wasn't about you guys it was about me it's not you it's me me. Everyone that's been dumped and gets that line used on them, you know it's you. It's definitely you. It's because they don't like you anymore. You are the issue. So it's a great cover-up, but it doesn't work. Everyone sees just right through it. But Alex does, you also can't blame her

because the don't bothers are not necessarily known for their social skills. You know, there's some socially awkward folks. And so throwing them in to communicate openly is a very dangerous thing. Yeah, it's dangerous, but I mean, it was working. It was working until she freaked out and got all, you know, worried, paranoid again. Did you love Nick trying to act angry during this episode? Yeah, he kept trying to act angry and then immediately was like, no, it's not believable, is it? What a sweet kid.

We love Nick. He is the absolute best i love maya throwing out evan like hey this is about loyalty yep just not not liking it um also we predicted this one of the episodes we talked about logan feeling getting pissed about being left out of the sleepover and the yes it came back it came back it did it did because he lives across the street he saw it he can see you he can see you he even says that he saw you through the kitchen window yeah eating every swedish fish was like a dagger to his heart the kid loves swedish fish I don't get it. They're good, but there's a lot better candy options out there than Swedish Fish.

They're the worst. They're good, but there's nothing great about them. It's not worth a dagger to the heart. Now, if they had some Everlast, Gobstoppers, Starbursts. I don't think it was the Swedish Fish in particular. It's what the Swedish Fish represented, Heath.

Every candy that he could have been sharing with them. Yes, they didn't even think to invite him. And then Nick trying to save his ass ends up alienating Coob. Because he says Coob wasn't even supposed to be there in the first place. It was a pity invite.

To save his own ass and to make Logan feel better, he isolates Coop. Not a great move by Nick. Just really flexing that social awkwardness because Coop was an impromptu invite. It was supposed

to be a best friends hang. Just best friends. Yeah, and poor Coop's like, hey, I don't even know what a hangout is like. And all of a sudden you're doing a best friend one and it's a pity invite. That's rough. That's rough on a poor kid that never reads this. There's another great line that Logan had when he's fighting with Nick over that.

I think he asked, there's a lot of, it was in the middle of like everybody's arguments. I'm not exactly, I didn't hear exactly what he said. Again, I got to turn the subtitles on. You got to hit the subtitles because I know exactly what he said. Okay. So Evan, Logan is essentially like, have you even played hockey before Nick? And Nick goes, yeah, I have. You'd know that if you listened to my podcast.

I have over 400 episodes. That's what Logan says Logan's like you have 400 episodes Where would I even start? I have a lot to say Obviously 400 episodes That means that Nick

Just sits and talks to himself In a recorder constantly Him and Mary Jo Him and Mary Jo. Him and Mary Jo. That's true. That's true. I forget that he had the partner in crime. Yeah, they're the number two Southeast Minnesota youth hockey podcast.

You know, that's a lot of content to cover the entire Southeastern portion of Minnesota. Also in there, and once again, the subtitles came in clutch because I got a gem from Lauren to Maya. At least I have a sleep schedule. That was what they were. I don't know. They were arguing.

It just had a line from Lauren yelling about having a sleep schedule, which once again, Lauren, I get it. If I don't get my eight hours of sleep, I am a disaster the next day. Like I'm angry. I don't want to talk to anyone. I might just randomly break something. I might go chat and punch a hole in the wall. Who knows? But I thought, I was like, wow, subtitles strike again. What a great line. And Oh, and I found,

I found the line that you were looking for from Lauren earlier. Alex is like, Hey guys, let's make some friendship bracelets. Oh, that's what it is. The bracelets will be woven of lies. Yep, that's what it is. It's just not wrong. No. Listen.

Definitely not. Let's reach out to our friendship bracelet kind of sewers the fans of the podcast. But when you make a friendship bracelet, you want every strand to represent the bond of friendship and just not going to happen when you fake it with these, these fake ass ones. Yeah. The, in the midst of an argument is not the time to, to weave a friendship bracelet. No, it's it is. There's going to be,

it's going to be a lot of unnecessary tension. The bracelet might be tighter than what you want it to be. There's going to be a lot of bad juju within those beads there. Yeah. And Lauren, knowing a lot about magic and that kind of stuff, she's going to understand that you can't put – you've got to have positive vibes in the friendship bracelet. Exactly.

Otherwise, it ends up cursed you know yeah that's how you end up with like possessed dolls and stuff is you when you build stuff out of lies and and so then in the middle of all this greatness the lights just completely cut out and i love that the team starts to blame evan and him and his mom are like okay this obviously is not my fault and I don't remember who said it but someone was like yeah it's at least 75% your fault I forget who said the 75% line but Logan's the one who points it out first like right when the lights goes out goes out go out he's like damn it Evan what did you do this time? Or something like that. Way to go, Evan. Way to go, Evan. And Bombay is trying to get the thing fixed.

He's trying to go. The ice is going to turn into a puddle. And all of a sudden, you know, it's time to cancel practice. No dice. And then Bombay comes out. Well, I think we can go to this secret spot i know and here comes the i know a place he knows the place yeah we've seen it we've seen this place there's a lot more trees around it this time if it's i don't think it's the exact same location but oh okay it's this is a different

secret location because i was gonna say the one we saw in the movie when he was growing up it was very open space around it. Not a lot of trees. Not like this, where they came out of the forest. Yeah, this one was more enclosed for sure. But yeah, he takes them to a pond that I'm assuming...

No, it wouldn't have been... But the pond that he played on as a kid with his dad, where he learned to play hockey. Nature's ice palace is what he calls it yep some pond Maya has a great line she's looking some ODR she's looking for Maya's looking for the wi-fi and the cocoa bar she's not pissed I love that all the kids are like complaining about the hike to the they're like geez how how far have we walked is it five minutes or five miles that That was Nick's line.

So they're already tired before practice. They're pissed about this hike. Yeah, yeah. And he calls it shinny. I thought that was a fun name for pickup hockey. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's all kinds of, yeah, shinny, pickup. There's all kinds of weird slang for pond hockey.

Yeah, and so they're going to work on their instincts. That's Bombay's goal. We're going to work on their instincts. That's Bombay's goal. We're going to work on our instincts. We're going to show it. And then they show a quick little montage of people practicing, and I just had to point this out. You missed it. Oh, they play tag. Yeah.

Evan's it. Well, he wants them to get on the ice without their skates. He wants them to feel the ice underneath their feet. Get loose. And so they to get on the ice without their skates he wants them to feel the ice underneath their feet and so yes and so they all get on the ice and of course you have alex freaking out like charlie's mom in the first one where she's like it's gonna break we can't be doing this and then she just they tell her to leave and she goes okay i'll be in the i'll just be in the car with my thermos and she she fucking leaves. Yeah. And Nick is loving the beauty that's surrounding them.

I love that option too when Nick came in. But yeah, so they're playing tech. They're getting a feel for the ice. Yes. Running around. That's the fun. Running around like crazy. Sam is still sad though.

He's just sitting on the ice. Yep. Looking at his phone. Not participating. Not talking. looking super depressed um and no no nobody is even trying to address him even bombay doesn't even say anything they're just let's let's let's him sit yeah yeah they just let him sit sit and pout um i did have to point out when they were doing like some of the practice drills like when they were doing the skating race, Logan just did the flag. He was the starter and Coop was standing in the goal.

And then when they did the other practice montage, both Coop and Logan, the two individuals who should probably be getting the most work, we're getting none. We're getting none. Now we see eventually Coop does get some work. We're seven episodes in and we have not taught these kids how to skate. Unreal. Just negligent coaching, which is shocking now that Bombay is more involved.

But we're starting to see. This is Bombay's first actual coaching endeavor with the team, you know. And he takes special attention with Coop. He tries to tackle the Coop issue, which is thank, thank God. Thank God. What did you think about, so fun little Easter egg. They used eggs the first time, but they modernized it and they use the phones, but all I could think of when they were doing soft hands with the phones

like i didn't see any like super crazy phone cases by any means like the water damage is gonna ruin all those phones instantly what were they thinking yeah yeah i noticed that too i i think i figured they had cases on like a life lock case? Maybe, something like that. If you don't have a life lock, even some of your OtterBox cases can let some moisture through. That happened to me once because when I was working for the city, I sweat through my jeans and I got some water damage on the phone. I'm a disgusting animal.

But yeah, I just got to be honest. It's not a big deal deal but it did bother me i did like the phone i liked the phone pass though it was great i thought it was i loved it it was a good call back to the evan being on nick's home screen that was the best part was the the lock screen you you see nick's lock screen is just a single like selfie photo of evan nick's not even in it. It's just Evan. And then Evan sees that and freaks out for a second. He's like, why am I on your lock screen?

I also love Logan and Nick are shooting it back and forth. And Logan's like, hey, Nick, your moms are calling. Should I pick up? And Nick's like, only if you want a pleasant and encouraging conversation. And so I think we have to shout out Nick's moms again, who just seem like the most delightful and best parents out of the whole show. Like obviously the best parents in the show. I got to get,

I got to get them on an episode of parenting corner with Brandon. Got to dissect their brain a little bit. Yeah, exactly. And like, figure out like, Hey, he may one day bring future spawn into the world what are some parenting tips for two idiots but i loved i loved when he said that um but it did it did take me a minute to get over the water damage of the phones but um so still no high five after practice though and we get to a very crucial scene where evan rips the sea off his jersey good riddance hadn't deserved it up to this point not a lot of leadership so that's what the team needed they didn't need your shitty apology saying it was

only one practice yeah and he ripped it off like it was velcro which threw me for a loop and the sound effect was even like a velcro sound effect that's not i was gonna ask those are sewn on well they're either sewn on or they're heat pressed on depending on you know your budget but it's definitely not velcro no and it would fall off in the middle of the game yeah yeah you can't just rip it you can't just rip it off i mean theoretically with a heat press if you you could rip it off but it wouldn't theoretically with a heat press, you could rip it off, but it wouldn't be nice and clean like he did it. You'd have to work at it a bit.

You know? But definitely not Velcro. Threw me for a loop. I wanted them to put the C on Nick's chest, but like Sophie said... So Nick isn't wearing the C, but he's still a captain.

Yeah. Everyone's a captain. Yes. Everyone's a captain. Wait until his mom's here about this. Oh, they're going to be so pumped. And you know what? The pond hockey, it was just,

it was that spoonful of sugar that helped the medicine go down. And now we're in much better spirits. Yes. It was a nice reset. You got everybody out of the locker room, the medicine go down and now we're in much better spirits. Yes. It was a nice, it was a nice reset. You got everybody out of the, out of the locker room, out of the, the ice rink, you get a fresh perspective, you know, we, and then we do a quick cut. We're at twin city slices again. We're celebrating, we're laughing together. We're bonding.

We have the fun story about Nick being scared of a bunny. Did you catch that one? Nick got scared of a bunny. And you know, the first thing I thought of was like, obviously it's a little bit dated, but these kids haven't watched the Holy grail because bunnies can be murderous at times. Yeah. Well, and if, yeah, you got the Holy grail whole thing, but also you see a bunny running you know what's what's the bunny running from is the that's the scary part you don't know yeah

could be a coyote alex said she saw a bear earlier you don't it could be the bear coming if if alex saw a bear and you see a bunny running nick's concern is something that should be followed by the rest of the team yes yeah exactly yeah and so you know how they you know how they say don't run from a bear because they're super quick and they would be able to catch you do you think you could out like if you were on ice skates do you think do you think somebody like do you think nick could outrun a bear ice skating the issue is that eventually you'd hit the end of the pond so you'd have to do some form of like quick pivot movement to make sure you're not getting like a swipe from the bear because like you know we saw i feel like

we saw i'm picturing like uh i'm picturing like a perfect scenario where you're on like a massive lake and you got, you've got runway for days. Okay. Cause how fast can a bear run? You know? Cause like, I mean like NHL players skate, they can, they, when they're skating, they can hit like 25 miles an hour. That's usually like, I think 25, 26, 27 is like top speeds. A polar bear can run 25. A grizzly bear can run 35.

So you're not making that. If this is looking straight grizzly, it's about to get grizzly because you're going to get eaten by that big ass bear. Yeah. You're not asking, not Nick. What are you doing that? Do you know that's when is that is our it's mountain lions where you get big bears where you go fetal I honestly don't know I think I think bears you can go big too I don't know it's been a while

since I was a boy scouts I don't remember listen I do I do I since I was at Boy Scouts. I don't remember. Listen, you know what you actually do? You pee a little bit and you die. I do know for sure if you see a bear and the bear doesn't see you, you need to make sure the bear sees you. You got to be – because you don't want to – the last thing you want is for the bear to – for you to sneak up on the bear because that's when it will freak out and just charge.

If you're a safe distance away and you see the bear you make noise you let you let them know you're there you know give them a you give them time to prepare for your your your essence you know some some like yeah yeah exactly hey old bear so so but the the thing with the slices is that we see some conflict building between evan and sophie because while the team is engaged sophie's on the road she's not ready she's not ready to forgive she's doing her homework she's got some work so so so yeah she's taking latin she does latin sophie has sophie has forgiven him in a hockey sense, but in a friend sense, she's still upset. She's a little better.

She says to him, she says, I thought we were closer than this. I thought you would have been able to talk this through with me. Like I talked my duck situation through with you, you know, instead of just bailing. I think that Sophie also needs to realize that 12 year old boys do not have that kind of emotional depth to go into that kind of conversation with you like evan didn't know he was just making impulsive decisions because that's what being 11 12 and 13 is for a

boy you just do stuff and then you learn the consequences so you don't do it later in life. You gotta learn sometime, Heath. You know? You can't just let Evan get away scot-free with any consequences. Listen, she deserves to be pissed. That was the shittiest thing to do. It's like you spent all this time convincing her to do

it and then you take her spot on the tux. Like, fuck you, dude. Like, that a friendship's end. I kind of wish he would have done that. I kind of wish that would have been his plan. Like from the beginning to have her quit. Like he even was the actual bad guy. Like he masterminded this whole situation just to take her spot on the ducks.

That's like a very frozen move where you think Anna's bow is going to just sweep her off her feet. And it's like, oh, my God, he's a bad guy? Yeah. All along? What a fucking twist. Yeah. They got an M. Night Shyamalan super hard with the Evan twist. This was his diabolical plan.

And his mom was unaware. And she just bought that shit hook, line, and sinker. Oh, how diabolical I love that that's a much better story yeah they need to get us on we need some writing credits on season two we gotta

between that and then Winnie being Han and Yan you know they're like descendants or great grand daughter or granddad or whatever yeah we got to get in on season two we get a we needed some writing credits and like the advice guru like she she's yeah wilson from home improvement you know behind the snack stand it's just it's right there for you disney god damn it this isn't that hard fucking smart

i shouldn't say that i I am so sorry, Disney. Do not firebomb my family's house. I just don't know how much they control. That's true. Nobody does. I don't even think they do. But I also, as they close out that sequence, though, I love that Sophie, he's like, you're studying Latin?

How do you say, I'm a stupid jerk in Latin? And Sophie does not miss a beat. She's? How do you say I'm a stupid jerk in Latin? And Sophie does not miss a beat. She's just like, boom, you're a stupid jerk in Latin. And then we end scene, just mic drop by Sophie. Well-deserved mic drop. Evan looks around and is like, I can't believe she actually knew it. Yeah. She's Sophie.

Very underrated. Not only a premier hockey star, but the academia going there as well. She's a future academic All-American. She's doing parent coffees. She's learning Latin. She's got it all down. Actually, you know, the first episode we roasted, none of these kids were going anywhere.

But Sophie actually has a legitimate chance if she can keep that sharpshooter shot going and the speed. Yes. Well, you get from her parents have the right idea, essentially, to where she's using hockey as a springboard for other endeavors. She's using it as a tool to get into college because she's super smart and then she'll, know whatever she did they mention you know they talk about her brother being they don't mention like they don't have like a plan for her yeah and they don't have a plan for her right i don't think they have like

a legit they at least i haven't mentioned it i'm sure they do but yeah there's there's some kind of plan i'm sure it's whatever she chooses to major in though she's gonna she's gonna crush it and since it's a tv show she'll be right like that's going to be something. Whatever she chooses to major in, though, she's going to crush it. And since it's a TV show, she'll be a doctor. That's an easy one. She's really smart. She'll be a doctor. That's fair. Because they want her to go to Harvard. Yeah. Harvard Med.

I don't even know if they have a med... Do they have a med school? I assume so. Do you think I know anything about Harvard? I know. I do know they have a law school. Legally Blonde taught me that. And listen, if you are not learning your law from Legally Blonde,

then what are you even doing? Like she's just out there empowering her fellow sisters to be cute and to practice law. You can do both. She wins the case. She wins the case at the end yeah i mean it's heroic it's it's delightful yeah kills it i'm bad movie i'm not i'm not arguing the movie i surprisingly am okay oh it's one of my it's one of my my favorite movies i love

that movie it's so fantastic one of your favorite movies we won't get into like why that should not be your favorite movie but like i mean come on i didn't say it was my favorite movie i said it was one of my favorite movies and that's like it's like a not top five i said one of my favorite movies that's like a list of like 30 okay okay okay okay that's i'm a big film guy he's big film guy you're you're the see i if we started going into mine like i love terrible cheesy movies so like um like so anything that the rock does anything and like like literally anything and some of his deep stuff like if if anyone wants to come over and argue with me about why the tooth fairy is a bad movie i will do it because that shit is a cinematic

classic starring dwayne the rock Johnson. Tooth Fairy is good. This is before he became just this massive. Yeah, that's when he was still his original wrestler physique. Which I mean, still jacked, but not as... Not bodybuilder physique. Yeah, not as girthy.

Yeah. Sorry. Now you got me on a rock tangent now i'm ready to go uh what's the one he does with uh johnny knoxville is that walking tall which i didn't know was that remake i think it's a remake yeah it's like an old 60s or something like an old western or something like that i think another excellent one when he beats the shit out of everyone with the two by four are you kidding kidding me? Like, listen, if you hate, like, if you hate

movies, you still have to appreciate The Rock going into a casino and beating the shit out of a whole bunch of gangsters. Like, come on! That was awesome! Everything about that movie was awesome. And then Johnny Knoxville brought the comedic relief, because this is before, you know,

The Rock really had his acting chops, walking tall, the rundown with Stifler. That's also a very underrated rock movie. I love some of that Sean William Scott or whatever his name is. Yeah. Sean William Scott. Well, he'll forever be Stifler for us, but. Just like Coach T is always going to be Riley. Riley and Jonesy. They're never going to get away from that. And that's okay.

As long as they lean into it, they can just live off of that forever. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, don't get me started on The Rock. Like, he has now progressed into just an amazing actor. Now you can say The Rock is your favorite actor, and people aren't going to laugh at you. But then I go back on Peacock and I start watching, you know, WrestleMania, Rock versus Stone Cold.

And that's where you fall in love with The Rock, jabroni. Yeah, that's good. I love the Nation of Domination, Rock. That's where he like kind of blossoms. Oh, absolutely. The storyline when the Rock usurps Farouk in leadership from the Nation of Domination, that's when he really starts to hit his gimmick and starts throwing down the jabronis

if you smell what he's cooking. Hey, Brandon, what do you think about the Mighty Ducks? It doesn't matter what you think about the Mighty Ducks, Gibberoni. You know, that's prime rock right there. The spot on impression. Spot on. I love the WWF. That's one of my, I don't even know if it's a guilty pleasure anymore because I don't even try to hide it.

It's just, it's great. I don't watch, I haven't watched any of the new stuff since I went to wrestlemania in like 2011 but man i have watched wcw and wwf pay-per-views from like 88 to like 2000 constantly yeah i was super big into wrestling like uh like late late elementary early middle school. And then I kind of fell off. That would have been what, like 2005, 2006-ish is kind of when I fell off. So I haven't really seen any of the new stuff since then. But before that, yeah, it was fantastic.

Yeah, I mean, I saw Rock vs. John Cena Part 2 at WrestleMania in New York City. It was just the best. John Cena won, Spoiler alert. How dare you, Heath? How dare you? It happened 10 years ago now. Everybody should just assume that anyway. John Cena always wins.

Well, and that was a rock. That was like, okay, I came back to the WWE for two years. Now I'm going to, I'm going to progress back into my acting career. Passing the torch. Yeah, exactly. Fast and the Furious movies were starting to throw down. Don't even get me started on Fast and the Furious movies.

Those are, every single one of those movies is in my top 30. For sure. I'm not going to argue with you on that. Especially the new, the new hobbs and shaw with the rock and just the rock and jason statham the like spin-off movie they did amazing highly recommend it it's on hbo if anybody wants to watch it it's fan fucking tastic idris elba plays the villain nails it okay so i love the movie i thought it was hilarious that all of a sudden they now have like superheroes and yeah so in this movie but let me

remind in this the spin-off movie idris elba is a cyborg who has been you know technologically enhanced with technology let me remind you in the very first fast and furious movie paul walker was an undercover cop trying to figure out which gang was uh illegally selling dvd players that's the premise of the first movie and now they're superheroes yeah it's and they saved the world was excellent the new trailer they're on a fucking spaceship i think they're going to space in this new the fast nine which which has john cena in it john cena's in in the newest one wow this okay so, so I will be there because you know who loves The Fast and the Furious more than anyone? None other than Big Mike, father of the podcaster. Nice.

Just loves. So I've seen those movies a hundred times. Fast 9 is the first movie I'm going to see back in theaters. I mean, you've been to Big Mike's basement. You know, play some pool, throw on the Fast and the Furious in the background. I think we did watch a couple of Fast and Furious movies. When he came back for chicken days.

All right, anyways, let's circle all the way back because I love, don't get me wrong, I love some rock tangent we will bring back some rock tangents wherever we can add them into the podcast this is way too long of a this one a little bit too long we'll cut we'll cut maybe a little bit out of this but anyways we'll leave it we'll leave it to uh producer brandon oh one thing so one thing one thing i have in my notes that i want to talk about that was a little a little bit farther back when bombay's kind of like messing with the power

to try to get it back on oh yeah yeah alex has a line where she goes uh she's talking about how crazy it is that the power is out like what a shitty place this ice palace is and bombay's like no no it's fine and she goes no it's not fine one of your emergency exits leads to a brick wall yes i am so glad you circled that like post-tangent circle back to hit that because that was a great line yes the emergency exit goes out to a brick wall do you think there was any other like it was just like a brick wall into an alley was there like some sort of exit or like the exit was legitimately just into a wall? I think it's like just a door frame and door they put onto a wall. So when you open the door, there's just the wall right there.

I love it. I love it. It's probably contributing to the fact that it is beyond distance. It has required repairs from the state. Yeah. Almost condemned. Yeah. Almost condemned. Yeah. So,

so anyway, I love everything about that. So, so post post Sophie getting pissed, insulting Evan in Latin, we get round two of pond hockey. And this is where we, we really start, start to see some

some stuff happening because like because there's some intermixing right it's it's pond hockey then we then we move to um alex at work but first at the pond hockey they're saying hey alex and sam are no shows um sophie's kind of like you know, putting some padding on her knee. She's got a bum knee. And then finally, finally, Bombay is shooting some pucks at Koob. And he's just shooting them at his legs. And he's like, Koob, what the fuck? Move your feet. Like, Jesus, move your feet, dude.

Yeah, he's like, your hands are great, but you literally don't move your feet at all. If anybody figures that out, which Newsflash Bombay, they have. They figured it out. He's let like 17 goals go by in each game. People know. 39 goals in the first two games, Bombay. Like, you were there, dude. Come on.

Yeah. But so, yeah, so then he finally is – and Koob has the lame excuse where he's like, my feet just won't move. I can't do it. It's mental. It's all mental. It's a mental block.

It's like a field goal kicker that all of a sudden gets the yips and can't move it through. So his mental block is preventing his feet from moving quickly. Believable. Absolutely. So then Bombay is trying to get him to move his feet a little bit, so he has him skate back and feet a little bit so he has him skate back and forth a little bit and then he's a bright fucking idea good old good old coach

bombay always with the good the good stuff here he's got it yeah his bright idea to get coob to move his feet is he lies to him and tells him the the ice is breaking oh the ice is breaking underneath you yeah believable yeah so coob freaks out and sprints again he's not skating when he does this he just runs like big man i noticed that this episode where he's just like taking these big massive strides he's not sliding along the ice he's like stabbing the ice with his skates and sprinting forward. Yes. But that unlocks, you know, that breaks his yips. So now he realizes he can move his feet.

It's possible. He is now Coob Patrick Waugh Coobler. Coob.0. Coob.0. Yes. How did they? Jesus. Disney, get us on the writing team.

That was fucking brilliant. Cool. Point. Oh, and no one said it in the episode. No, that's a real missed opportunity. We'll send our business card.

Yeah. Well, we won't need to. They'll the, the Disney execs. I'm sure listening. They're going to be glued to their, their, their phone. I was going to say glued to their their their phone i was gonna

say glued to their tv but this is a podcast glued to their phone i was i was hoping either them or the ringer podcast group because i love the ringer don't get me wrong but they are turning into like netflix where you can get a podcast just about any going any which way on the ringer so let's hope for that we'll uh we'll accept any offers as well. If you, you know, if you, my heroes,

if you have a, Bill Simmons, I have, I have mixed feelings about Bill Simmons. I don't know if we could, I don't know if I, I don't know if I could work with Bill Simmons. He's a Boston Homer.

We wouldn't be working with those guys. You know, who would be working with, who is the unwritten MVP? It'd be nephew Kyle. I was a producer producer and that's what if we can we need nephew kyle if we can get producer kyle to produce the show i'm all i'm all in i'm all yeah because he was a life advice segment at the ryan rossillo show that is gold

and nephew kyle is the fucking backbone of those shows yeah okay you refer to him as nephew kyle i call him producer kyle because i i don't listen to the ringer any of this stuff i used to listen they had a they used to have a college basketball podcast um it was called one shining podcast now it's now they're the with mark titus and uh tate frazier great podcast okay they left and they're with like fox sports i think now their their new podcast is titus and tate but kyle when they were at the ringer kyle was their producer so they were always referred to him as producer kyle and so if we if we can get i would love to work with producer kyle

that'd be fantastic i'm all in and like i just listened to the bill simmons podcast so religiously that i'm just always going to know him as nephew kyle and i'm just going to the bill simmons podcast so religiously that i'm just always going to know him as nephew kyle and i'm just going to call him that so sorry nephew we will though we're not just interested in working for the ringer we'll work for anybody fox sports if you want some of this espn any any if you if you distribute podcasts we uh we're listening you know i'm not saying we're cheap, but we'll do it for the rest. If somebody can take over the editing

process, I would love that. Somebody could take that over for me. I would accept that offer, guaranteed. Or, you know what? If any listeners out there are striving to one day produce podcasts, hit us up. Come join us us come join us for a few

hours on the weekends and and talk ducks and you'd sit and listen and do research about the ducks but it'd still be fucking awesome yeah and and we're fun yeah yeah reach out to us the our email is thecakeeaterspod at gmail.com we're very friendly people. And I'm a delightful boss. I rule with an iron fist, so you better make sure you have your fucking shit together. You know what? Maybe I'd be too much like Steph, Mr. Boss. No, I'm kidding.

I'm too much of a pushover. My guy, you tried hard. It's good. Yeah, yeah, fine. All right. That's what we need as the producer, though, is we need Stephanie. Stephanie gets shit done. Listen, Stephanie is exactly who I would want to be in charge of anything.

Like, I would be okay with Stephanie being my boss. She's not in this episode at all, is she? No. Okay. So, yes, she is. We can so yes she is we can actually this is oh that's right she gives she gives a she gives a pep talk that's what happens yeah she gives a pep talk so we so we cut to a scene we have alex walking from the break room with a microwave burrito giving her 150 of her daily sodium i love that because as someone with high cholesterol who ate way too many microwave burritos and fast foods, like, you know, you should cut that shit out. It's not good for your heart. No, definitely not. So, but Stephanie is confused. Like, hey, why are you not at practice? Like what's, what's going on? Oh, but also I do have to say,

what a real shitty move by Stephanie throwing the meeting sushi away instead of letting the rest of the employees sprint like vultures to the break room to feast off the scraps. Well, that's a, that's, that's a thing apparently at this law firm. Cause the food at meetings comes up multiple times in the show,

but only certain people are allowed to eat the food and no one else can. The haves and have nots. Only the actual lawyers are allowed to eat the food. Everyone else is able to support them. If you're an assistant, you've got to wait. You support them while they eat the food. Maybe you can give them a napkin. Yeah, absolutely.

So Alex on at practice and, Oh, and I love Stephanie. Just the ultimate passive aggressive jerk where she's like, Oh, you finally, Oh, you finally stopped with the team. You know what? You I'm glad you've put those kids through enough.

I love Stephanie's character. The realest character on the show because she's such an asshole to everyone. Because she's a very successful lawyer and, you know, she deserves to be an asshole at work sometimes, I guess. Yeah. And it's such like the perfect like Midwestern passive aggressive just asshole, which I love. It reminds me of home.

I love it. Yeah. Oh i love it yeah oh my gosh like she absolutely kills the midwestern passive-aggressive because the stuff she says isn't gonna hurt alex in the moment when she gets home she's gonna remember what stephanie said about that stuff and it's just gonna hit the core of her um i also it's like maya with her with her 2017 comments it's like yeah that that's it's not stinging you right away but it's embedding itself in your head and then you know 20 years later you have an emotional breakdown because you just the next fidget spinner you see you lose it stephanie also has a great line where she's talking about bombay coaching and she says,

you know, Bombay just has a talent for bringing out the best in the under gifted. Undergifted is such a great phrase. I'm going to use that so often. Oh my gosh. Like that is a beautiful phrase that we have to use. It's just the PC, you know, now that we're in a very pc world it's the pc way of saying this person sucks yeah that's too harsh you can hurt the undergifted the losers the losers the have-nots yeah the shit on your shoe but so they're kind of going back and forth and stephanie's giving her the pep talk saying like hey you need to face your fears you can't just you know let bombay take over and as your role

model i love that stephanie volunteers herself as a model i know you look up to me and alex even tries to brush it away she like shakes her head and stephanie doubles down she's like no i know you do i know you i know you look up to me. And then she keeps a, just when you start to like Stephanie again, because she's such a great asshole. She keeps a propeller, a piece of a propeller in her office to remind her to run at her fears from when she jumped out of a plane to conquer her fear of heights.

Yeah, she's afraid of heights. You know what she did? She ran towards that fear and she jumped out of a plane yeah yeah as you have to as someone who is afraid of heights like i don't know if you could like maybe for a proper sponsorship for this podcast i would bungee jump but i don't know like the only way I'd ever jump out of the plane is if I was attached to someone that was like able to do it. And like, maybe I,

I probably like, I don't know. I don't think I could do it. I wouldn't do it. I would. So I'm not super afraid of heights, but they, I'm not a fan of them.

I would definitely do like a tandem skydive where I'm strapped to like an experienced skydiver and he's got the, he or she has access to the parachute. I would definitely do like a tandem skydive where I'm strapped to like an experienced skydiver and he's got the, he or she has access to the parachute. I would do that. One thing I will never ever do is bungee jump. That just, that just doesn't look safe at all to me. Well,

that's true. It's like, it's like, it's like taking fair rides. You kind of do it at your own risk, knowing that that rickety piece of shit might fall apart at any second. I just, every time I see a bungee, like, cord, I think they're called cords, right?

Just looks like the flimziest things. Yeah, they snap. That's a real fucking thing. They snap. And I'm a big guy. But, yeah, there was that one girl in, like, Australia or New Zealand that, like, fell into, like, croc-infested water. Yeah.

So, anyways, so anyways, that was, but like giving the pep talk, she, she decided, Alex decides, Hey, I've been too worried about safety of the players.

I need to let loose. I've got a brilliant idea. She swings the complete opposite direction. Yeah. Goes full 180. Let me run to practice and interrupt it let me go interrupt practice with my genius idea of blindfolding the players and having them play hockey which i mean so i they call it feel hockey feel hockey so i don't hate this working title i don't hate this i the essence of

this idea but the way they do it and the fact that they do it on the pond if you're going to do this you need to do it in the rink where there's boards and stuff boundaries and you need to do it in a way that like bill because the way they have they have so she has them actually she puts a puck down and she's like play hockey with a blindfolded that's not how you start this out you have to start them out all close together and you know kind of like build the communication like have one person like lead people around or something like that yeah so i don't i don't hate the idea it could have been it could have worked what she did though was terrible so that oh that was such a great point because the execution was trash but the

essence of like hey team we could communicate without even seeing each other on the ice because you should be able to feel and anticipate that where the next person is going on the ice. Phil Jackson actually used to do something very similar to this, where the first like 10, 15 minutes of bowls practices with like Rodman and Jordan and everybody, he would have everyone sit quietly and they would have to sit and meditate in complete silence for the first 10 minutes of practice. And it would help them like grow closer together. It's the same essence, right?

It reminded me of a little bit of SemiPro, the Will Ferrell, Woody Harrelson basketball movie. Because towards the end, Woody Harrelson takes over from Will Ferrell as the coach or whatever, and he's running. The player coach. Yeah, he has a play that he's running, and he essentially makes them do it constantly for hours. Until they throw up.

Yeah, he calls it the puke play because we're going to run this play until you throw up. And his reasoning behind that was because we're going to run it so often that you just automatically know what you're doing. So that way when you're in the heat of battle and you're super tired, you still know what to do because it's burned into your head. She could have done something like this with the blindfold. So you start off slow, right?

You start off with them just kind of skating and figuring out how to communicate. Then without the blindfold, you have them run a play, right? And then with the play, once they get that down without the blindfold, then you put the blindfolds on and have them run a play, right? And then with the play, once they get that down without the blindfold, then you put the blindfolds on and have them run the play that way. I think that could work, but that's not what she does. And then the thing they do at the game, how close are we to the game?

What's after this? We're getting close. I do have to say her instructions for them after she put the blindfolds on was for them to see with their hearts. Yes. after she put the blindfolds on was for them to see with their hearts. And Nick behind the goalie taking very dangerous swings with his hockey stick and no one said anything. He's swinging up top. He's like, oh, I think I got it.

I think I got it. Do you do that in hockey? The puck is not in the air. Just completely disoriented. And then doesn't – He blew apart very quickly. Doesn't – there's like a bird noise or like an owl or something, and Nick hears that and he goes, oh, I think I heard the puck.

And Alex is like, oh, okay, maybe this idea should have – it was great in my head, and Bombay was like, yeah, that's where it should have stayed. Whoa, zinger yeah well because wait when she gets to the practice she she immediately goes okay guys i have this idea blindfolds and then bombay like drops his stick and skates over and he's like no no no no no no let's uh let's reel this back but um so end of practice we get the news sam is quitting the don't bothers he no one so he's retiring as a wild card i want to point this out sam was not at that practice where they did the blindfolds yep sam was sam was missing and then alex was missing for the first half yes but so sam does sam has no idea about the blindfold nonsense.

So then he ends up texting after the practice. He texts Coob or the group chat or whatever and says, I'm quitting. I'm cleaning out my locker. So Evan, Nick, and Coob rush to the Ice Palace to catch him. They got to go save it because they're like, hey, man, you would have nailed blindfolded hockey. That was the Sam expertise. He would have led blindfolded hockey. That was the Sam expertise. He would have led them through that.

They needed their wild card. Which I don't understand that reasoning. I don't get how they would automatically assume he's good at blindfolds. And this is where we get our Saturday morning moment where Sam's like, hey, you know, I've never been a part of a team. I've never been recruited. No one's ever wanted me for my talents until the don't bothers.

You betrayed that trust, Evan, and that hurts. I wish they would have gave us more Sam before this because it's just sad Sam, nothing from Sam, and then all of a sudden he's quitting and we get the heartfelt moment. We needed more of Sam. We got zero setup

other than him crashing into shit at school yeah yeah being thrown around as like a the illegal play where he was like a battering yes yeah there's been terrible character development with sam yeah but we have to retire the wild card because he's not a wild card i was a little bit off on that i was close because i was going for charlie day wild card that's what he seemed like to me he is not a wild card he's an x factor he's a joe rogan x factor participant he's doing dmt with joe rogan in the parking lot and then skating into shit yeah well wait joe rogan's not x factor joe rogan's fear factor fear factor damn it same difference it's not the same difference no he's the he's the x factor he does like dmt he talks about it all the time who's sam

joe joe rogan yeah joe joe likes him yeah yeah sam that. Yeah, Sam. That was actually one of the newest PSAs. Like, hey, parents, have you heard your kids talking about DMT because they saw it on Joe Rogan? Don't let your kids do DMT. Hopefully Sam's not doing DMT. I wouldn't put it past the X Factor. Evan calls him that and Sam fucking lights up. Yeah.

Because all it took to bring Sam back was a cool nickname. Yep, that's what he needed. And then what does the X Factor do? He skates his skateboard into the wall. And then he is a new man. Then he does the Shawn Michaels kick up too. Oh, yeah. Most excellent.

He was geared up for some sweet chin music after that bad boy. So just a skateboard crash. And then now we're hitting the game. Now it's game time. We're rocking the game. We've got on the bench, we've got Sophie and Evan and we finally feel

like this is, you know, kind of a moment between two young people who just really appreciate spending time together. And, you know, Evan's kind of laying it on thick, kind of, you know, talking up Sophie, brings her a compression sleeve, which I've got to be honest, I like to receive gifts the same way Sophie does. Something that's thoughtful, heartfelt, and practical. Something I'm going to use. Don't get me flowers because they're going to die. Just throw that shit away. Just put your money in the trash.

You don't have a green thumb, Heath? No. We actually did buy a plant for our patio, and that son of a bitch died very fast. Now the birds just come and take shit out of it for their nests. It's sad, but I left it up for the birds. Even though the birds aren't real, but we won't

get into that. Your plant's giving back now. Giving back. I have the worst. I have a black thumb. Like any plant I touch dies. I still, I bought one, I bought two plants like a couple months ago one of them is like a weird little like palm tree thing so that thing is that thing's thriving it doesn't it

doesn't need me to take care of it at all perfect the other one i got i don't even know what it's called um which probably is contributes to my black thumb because i don't do any as with the podcast i don't do any research. I just wing it. If you want research, go get a professional. If you want us to do it, we're just going to fucking improvise. Or get us a producer, and then we can do that. But the other plan I have is hanging on by the skin of its teeth. It's on its last leg.

It's about dead. Would you say it's on its last root? Or last leaf? Although it still has quite a bit of leaves. Or it's getting ready to leaf you permanently. Okay. Let's do one. We'll save the puns for the dad podcast

spin-off. Dad podcast with two non-dads. Let's tell you how this shit's done. I already got the bod though. So we're halfway there. That's a step one. So the thing that bothered me, so Evan gives Sophie, crushes the gift.

Sophie finally forgives Evan. They're ready to play the Huskies. No, it's not the huskies not the cardinals again i don't know they're playing no it's it's i'm playing a team it's a now freak what what team was it it was hornets the hornets the hornets yes i was saying all the other teams that they've played before um but they're playing the hornets um but then this is what we've got alex in the stands because she is just kind of gone off her rocker as a coach lately well so she yeah they in the stands as well because he's the assistant

but so yeah so bombay at the end of last episode he takes the you know he asks if he can be the assistant coach and then with this episode uh alex when she's talking to stephanie even mentions it she's like now that bombay is here i'm kind of taking a step back especially since i don't know what i'm doing and i'm asking kids to fucking blindfold themselves she's like i'm taking a step back bombay can handle this he's got this but apparently her and bombay never had that conversation bombay still thinks he's the assistant and so yeah, yeah, they're both – at the start of the game, they're both sitting up in the stands. And the ref is yelling. Yeah, he's like, does this team have a coach? Where's the coach?

And then you get a nice little, you know, heartfelt Bombay-Alex conversation where Alex is like, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know anything about hockey. And Bombay is like, yeah, you don't know anything about hockey, but your, like, coach don't know what I'm doing. I don't know anything about hockey. And Bombay's like, yeah, you don't know anything about hockey, but your, like, coach instinct is there. You know, like, you're a good teacher. And he talks about how the reason, like, you know, like, he,

I think, is it this scene where he's the one who shut the power off originally, I think, to give everybody a reset and kind of rethink. And he was like, you know who I learned that move from you, Alex. I was hoping he was, she brought him up out of his shell. Yeah. I was hoping he was going to say something like completely out of left

field there. Like, you know who I learned that from coach T but no, he's, he's romancing Alex. So now she's in, she's,

she's ready to coach. They barely make it to the bench before the referee wants to just like, hey, this team doesn't have a coach. They're done. Get them out. Ref's over this dramatic bullshit up in the stands. Because you will forfeit without a coach. We learned that from D2.

Yeah, we know. That's a fact. But apparently you don't need like an actual coach. Anybody can just hop out from the stands and be like, I'm the coach. Because that's what they do in D2 too. D2 as well. We've seen it time and time again. The trainer lady just, it's like, fine, I'll be the coach.

Whatever happened to her too. I miss her. What is she doing? She was their teacher, not their trainer. I think she was a trainer as well, wasn she oh really she taught them because remember she for sure taught them yeah i think she was like or maybe she was just the listen we saw her teaching but we didn't see her taping any ankles so she was usually just lurking in the background of the locker room that's true what is she up to though do you think she's still around? I don't know.

We'll have to deep dive into her. But, um, so we get that. We need a cameo from her. That's who can freaking snap Bombay out of this little, you know, rut he's in. Yeah. Get her back. She can Bombay and check. She was the voice of reason

for Bombay. Or the Iceland girl? Can we get her back too? She had an interview with her too. How did it feel to be the person who came in between Gordon Bombay and Team USA Junior Hockey? Yeah. She might hang up the call. So anyways, on the ice, we start the game all of a sudden kube patrick wa kubler which is the name

that i've just invented for him is just shutting it down kube.0 he's killing it kube.0 has completely taken over the game sam is is playing loose X-Factor. Jumps in front of the puck. He's in shit. Blocks a shot. That's it. Takes it right to the chest, too. That was insane.

Because he dives. He makes the dumbest shot block move ever. He dives headfirst into it. Dangerous. Yeah. You're going to lose some teeth, buddy. Yeah. But he takes it right in the sternum. but he's okay because he's the X factor.

And then we have the team, you know, they're playing well. They're thinking, hey, if we just run out the clock, we can tie a really good team. Yes, we can tie. Although they mentioned before, was it two episodes ago? Whenever they last played a game. They have to win out. Yeah, they got to win six straight or nine straight. i think it was nine straight right yeah they had to win nine straight because evan said that he's like hey if we win ninth and then everyone laughed

yeah yeah if you want nine wins just keep watching this tape keep watching the same win over and over again um so so alex is like nope we're going for the win. Let's make this happen. And this is where they lost me a little bit. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life. It is the dumbest sequence in a youth sports movie I've ever seen. It makes all of the air bed, air bud athletic scenes look like normal. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't mean to hit a nerve with air bud. I didn't mean to hit a nerve with Air Bud I didn't mean to hit a nerve

Buddy didn't do anything to you Those were not believable scenes I would have blocked that fucking dog shot 10 times out of 10 He would have bit you It wouldn't have lasted long on the court If he bit me There's no shots

Show me the rule book where it says biting's a foul heath okay attacking on the arm shit i was going up for a shot and he bit me on the arm easy foul call no i don't think the ref would have called it i don't think he would have called it listen me and her but no actually you know, like whoever the golden retriever is now, you know, I'm sure we had the RIP Air Bud. That was like 20 years ago, wasn't it? Buddy, yeah. Buddy passed away.

I think he passed away shortly after the first movie. Sad day. But, you know, whoever can do an Air Bud, maybe I can play some one-on-one with them and see if that movie has legitimacy. But anyways, this is the dumbest youth sports sequence I've ever seen in my entire life, where they all just close their eyes, and the other team's like, oh my god!

Their eyes are closed! What's happening? Let me get out of the goal! Is this legal? Is it the goalie that skates up to one of the other players and goes, can they do that? Yeah, like, it is one of the dumbest things it makes like like listen we've seen a lot of great moments like this like remembering little giants

when they grab the antacids and they start like foaming out of the mouth and so the other team panics and then they score a touchdown that was believable because if you see someone foaming at the mouth you're like yeah i don't want to get rabies. No, yeah. Let me run away. That's how they started with this kid. But yeah, these kids just close their eyes, and then the other team freaks out.

It makes no goddamn sense. It makes all of Bombay's other plays that are just straight garbage look brilliant. Like this makes Flying V look like the greatest play that's ever happened. Yeah, I just just i didn't i didn't know what to think when it happened while i was watching it because and on the on during the practice time when everybody's blindfolded they never once show them actually completing a pass so then when they do it in the game it comes out of left field there was no

all they did when did they learn in practice was fall over each other. That was all they did. And you know what? That play that they completed, they could have had their eyes open the whole damn time. And it would have been the exact same – If they would have had their eyes open, it would have gone a lot better. It would have been smoother.

Yeah. But maybe it would have freaked out the other team. It wouldn't have distracted the other team with their eyes closed. Yeah, well, I don't know. But so not only do they close their eyes, but then the passes that they make are so slow. Like the movements they do once their eyes are closed are so slow. Like it takes them 15 seconds to make one pass.

There's no way. Well, obviously the other team, either they suddenly lost their skates, maybe there's cement over in the other portion of the ice because they are nowhere to be seen after the faceoff. They just completely vanish. While the other team takes

10 seconds to pass the puck with their eyes closed and then Maya crushes a little slapping in. I think it's Lauren. So Evan wins the face-off. Is it Sophie that wins the face-off? I thought it was Sophie, Evan,

Maya. But maybe it's Sophie, Evan, Lauren. Maya gets the pass and then she passes it to Lauren, I believe. Okay. Okay. And then Lauren rips the shot. But yeah, they could have done all of that with their eyes open. It was a terrible end of game sequence.

I hated everything about it. It just didn't make any fucking sense. No, it doesn't make any sense. And I think what would have been better, what would have been more satisfying was some sort of Evan, Sophie, like, you know, back and forth passes. Some sort of like teamwork thing where you're like, okay, Sophie's fully over it. These kids are on the same page. I think that would have been more satisfying.

Okay. So I think that is the theme of this episode. So once again, Disney, listen. A nice little breakaway two-man game sophie and evan skating down the ice evan has a clean shot but he makes the extra pass sets up sophie for the game winner it seals the it seals the victory and then it seals the friendship they're embracing they're jumping it's a beautiful moment evan makes the unselfish the captain like play you know and then exactly and instead we got to worry about alex's blindfold stuff because i don't understand why she's the main character yet she's a great side character. Once again, no offense to the actor,

but she's a great parent in every show, movie she plays. I want to point that out because I feel like we definitely bad mouth the show quite a bit. I want to make perfectly clear, all of the actors and actresses, everybody in the show is fucking killing it especially the kids yeah the kids are fantastic I think they're doing a great job especially Nick and Sophie's doing fantastic Lauren Lauren and Maya are killing it yeah everybody is doing a great job acting it's the plot lines and the writing that are you know they're leaving a lot to be desired.

Exactly. Thank you for pointing that out because we would never hate on these badass child actors coming out here and doing, like you said, a very excellent job, but the plot line that they're being forced to act along to did them no favors in certain instances. Yes. And I mean, I guess.

This is not the actor's fault. This is Disney's fault. This is the big business fault. Yes. Because they got too cute. Yes, and I think it has to do with... I think it has to do with how long... With A, that it's a TV series instead of just another movie,

which I get why they would do that, but the reasons why you would do that are for like character development and stuff that they're not taking advantage of properly you know all of this all of these episodes could have easily been cut snipped and condensed into an hour and a half movie yeah perfectly fine and you would not have lost any of the heart of this yeah you would it's just there's a lot of filler in some of these episodes and there's a lot of weird jumps that don't transition smoothly exactly it's a it's a very choppy series that doesn't seem to run smooth when there's so much potential for a very smooth and clean story art with a lot of great character development but instead for some reason it feels really forced and and and like i

said really choppy and how they've executed's just like from point a to point b is like it's a great idea like the whole series is fantastic but they get lost because i feel like they were trying to extend it as long as they could to like 10 episodes it gets lost in the middle where it's kind of like shifting around and not quite be, you know, it's not as smooth as it could be. And like,

like the whole Evan going back and forth, it's like weird made up drop. And it all gets resolved in one episode is there's no, there's all of these episodes are standalone in a sense to where like they, you, the problem that arises in that episode i mean it's very sitcom-y i guess also comes kind of do this but for like a show a show like this where

it's a whole season long you're going from point a to point b the little segmented middle trips just seem weird and they're not smoothly transitioned into each other. It's just... I feel like... Obviously, the writers... No offense to the writers of this show. Sorry, we like you guys too. Listen, you don't get listeners on a podcast

by being nice to everyone all the time. You gotta stir up a little controversy. There are obvious there are obvious flaws and again there are obvious flaws in the old movies too so when we talk about those we'll get into that too this is not like you know us but we love those old movies yes and i will say i love this series oh i've totally gotten into it i started out with really low expectations and it's not like

it's not like a series it's gonna i'm gonna watch over and over again but i'm glad they made it i've had a lot of fun watching it hit it hit it hit the right spot hit the itch that i had yeah and i yeah i really enjoy it there are a lot of obvious flaws with it though we would be doing yes we would be doing everybody a disservice if we did not point out the obvious There are a lot of obvious flaws with it, though. Yeah. But they did a really good job modernizing it, too. Yes. We would be doing everybody a disservice if we did not point out the obvious flaws. Yeah. You know?

Exactly. And so, did you, oh, one thing about this last game is we finally, finally got Sophie hockey action in the episode. They show, like, a Sophie goal. Like, we got a Sophie goal. Just one goal, though. Yeah, we got a Sophie goal, but at least we saw some Sophie impact on the ice because she is their actual X Factor.

Yes, and again, that's why I think it would have been so much more satisfying for the end to not be like a blindfold fucking nonsense play and it would have been more Evan, Sophie, you know, coming together. Exactly. But did you catch the foreshadowing at the end, like for the lead in to the description of the next episode, a little bit of foreshadowing where Alex is like, don't call me mom.

Call me coach. Yeah. I hated that line too. Yeah. Yeah. She hated that line too. But yeah, yeah. She's fully embracing. She's the coach now. She's all in.

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Visit BrokenForestCo.com and use the code CakeEaters15 for 15% off your order. Episode 7, they played some pond hockey. We resolved the Evan practice drama. We moved forward. We're getting some confidence. We see the team has made improvements except for Logan. So far, he's the only... We finally taught Coob how to play goalie. Now we just need to teach

him how to skate. I think that was the biggest thing. We've been complaining about it for six episodes. Coob didn't move his damn feet. Do you think they did that on purpose? Do you think they wanted to just piss us off for seven episodes of this kid not moving his feet so that they could fix it because i feel

like they waited too long to fix his damn feet but they needed bombay to do it so it's a complicated web we weave yeah i mean well that just goes to them just dragging out the bombay thing to you know like will he won't he kind of yeah they drug that out too long and so because of that you get pretty much all the way through the fucking season we still have we still have two kids that can't skate you know the like teaching coop how to play goalie should have been no later than episode three no later than episode three teaching logan how to skate should have been episode two exactly exactly like why why is coob just learning how to move his feet and goalie seven episodes in and a couple wins in how are they winning yeah like everyone is going top shelf against coob

it makes no damn sense yeah again it's it's a miracle that they didn't give up – or he didn't give up more goals. Like, the fact that the Hawks – or not the Hawks. The Ducks only scored 17. Yeah. They beat the Hawks somehow. Yeah, the Hawks only scored four. Yeah.

And then Evan scored five goals all by himself. Fucking ridiculous. Yeah. Just shows you how far the Ducks have fallen – or the Hawks have fallen. Yeah. Just shows you how far the ducks have fallen or the Hawks have fallen. Yeah. Not only scoring four goals against the goalie that can't move his feet. Ridiculous. Hate to see it.

So, so that was pond hockey. We got the team back. They're better at skating. What's, what's, what's next. What do we got for,

for episode eight? I'm hoping it picks up a little bit because this episode was okay, but it didn't do a lot. But we did see some more kids, a little bit more kids storyline. But I don't know. The Sam storyline was kind of weird.

It was glossed over. Yeah, we did get, we've been clamoring for less Alex Bombay slash Bombay and more kids. They gave it to us this episode but they glossed over the sam thing i would have loved more specifically sam that because you know he goes from just being sad to almost leaving i would have liked a little more in between there yeah um i like the sophie uh evan stuff i think that's that good. As we get into episode eight, though,

the little sneak peek says where is it? There it is. With the state tournament on the horizon, Alex realizes she likes winning more than she thought. Now that Coob knows how to play goalie,

I'm assuming the wins are just going to keep pouring in. Piling up. Stark shooter, team first, goalie i'm assuming the winds are just going to keep pouring in yeah piling up the sharp shooter so they said first goalie and so a couple episodes they mentioned they had to win nine the last nine nine in a row this is at least two in a row i don't think they played i don't know if they and they might have just not showed us a game or two in between they skip ahead weirdly but so we're on a winning streak

I'm assuming we have eight maybe less games that we need to win in a row for episode eight either this episode or episode nine we're going to have to get like a crazy montage of all of those games or maybe they just say fuck it and skip ahead and just like a crazy montage of all of those games or, or maybe,

maybe they just say, fuck it and skip ahead and just tell us that they want all of them and don't do a montage. And then Alex, Alex likes winning more than she thought. She's probably get, I know she's probably going to get like a huge big head here coming up. She's going to start.

She's especially, especially with Sophie's parents being on the team moms now. I imagine that'll rub off a little on here. She's going to start hiring college counselors and trying to get Evan into Harvard. We're going to get a lot of wins. I assume it's going to be like a montage thing where

at the beginning of the episode, they're going to be like, we have so-and-so games that we need to win and then the next 10 minutes at the beginning of the episode they're going to be like we have so and so games that we need to win and then the next like 10 minutes it's just going to be montage of all those games and them

winning you know we're going to see Evan and Alex correlation where Evan almost jumped ship because he wanted to. So I know, I know because they keep talking about States, obviously they're going to make it to States. Yeah. We talked about this, like somehow, like we,

was it last episode or the episode before we're like, okay, they're probably going to go on a wind streak and it's going to come down to the wire and they're going to be the last game. And like, well, so my, my is going to take back over something crazy. So my question, so my question is, we know they're going to be the last game. And like, well, so my baby is going to take back over something crazy. So my question, so my question is, we know they're going to make States. Obviously they're going to make States. Yeah. And then I imagine they're for sure going to play the ducks in States. That's a no brainer. That's obvious. Maybe in the championship. I would, I think, I don't know, but my question is, do you,

do you think they play the Ducks one more time in the regular season? Do we get another Ducks game before States? I don't know. I don't know how the... They haven't been descriptive on their schedule. I don't know if it's one game against each team or if it's two games against each team.

Yeah, because generally it's like a round robin where each... like a home and home. Yeah, two games. You know? round robin where each – like a home and home. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, two games. You know? Yeah. That's how it usually is in conference. I would love a second peek at the Ducks in the regular season. Just to see where they stack up, you know?

Yes. Might bring them back down to earth a little bit because, like, there's – it's just – I mean, they've gotten really good but they said but yeah it would have to be they'd have to beat the ducks though if they play the ducks because they mentioned they need to win the rest of the games the next nine to make it to state so if they do play the ducks they'd have to beat the ducks which i don't know i'm a fan of that happening right away so there's no way they're going to have him play the Ducks again in the regular season.

Yeah. Yeah, so we got to wait till States. But yeah, so episode eight, we're most likely going to get the win streak here. And then we only got two episodes left. So we're about to bring the drama here. Like the eight, nine, 10, this is where business should pick up. Yes, exactly.

And do they merge with the Ducks? I just don't see that happening in two episodes or three episodes. Something is going to – they're obviously going to play the Ducks at State, whether it's in the first round, the semifinals. I personally don't think they'll make it to the finals. It just doesn't – like I know this is a Disney show for kids and everything. They're going to win. But that just feels like a bit of a stretch.

They're going to win. You know they're going to win the whole thing, which I – yeah, that seems like just a huge stretch that they're actually going to win. But they will. They're going to win. And then do you think it cements Bombay is the Minnesota miracle man? Oh yeah. Well,

no, cause actually no, it don't cause he's the assistant coach. He's not the head coach. Oh, that's right. If he was the head coach, then yeah.

Him bringing the don't bothers to a Minnesota state championship. You're right. He, he would refer to Alex in this show. Yeah. To, to be the official coach. So, no, yeah. I don't know.

This is going to be – we got three episodes left. It's going to bring the drama. We're probably going to see the don't bothers versus the ducks in the championship. Yeah. You know, hopefully if that does happen, we get some epic, epic Stephanie and Coach T trash talk. Because Stephanie and Coach T are at their best

when they're talking shit to people. And I need more of that, especially when the stakes are so high. Like, I need Coach T. I need Stephanie. I need them, you know, chirping. Yeah. Like, Coach T needs to be chirping.

Yeah. I really hope with, like, whenever they make the inevitable merger, like Ducks and Don't Bothers, whenever they make that inevitable switch, I hope we don't lose Coach T as a character. I hope he keeps going. He's too good. He's too good. I'm starting to think that they don't merge.

I think that the Don't Bothers are the team that everyone goes to. The show is named The Mighty Ducks, though. How do you not – how do they stay the villain if the show is named The Mighty Ducks? That's true. There's got to be some weird, like, switchover. What I'm saying is whenever they do that, I hope that Bombay keeps Coach T as an assistant coach.

That would be – I would love that dynamic of Coach T as the assistant coach under Bombay keeps Coach T as an assistant coach. I would love that dynamic of Coach T as the assistant coach under Bombay. That actually would make a great season two. Or maybe Alex finds a loophole through her research in Duckworth Law Firm. Because she's the research person, right? She's the grunt that like does all that stuff. She's Stephanie's assistant. So yeah, she's doing all the legwork for Stephanie. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So she's used to this type of heavy research.

And so we're wondering if she, cause that's where she found the stipend for them to the surplus to, to start the team. And so I wonder if she finds some kind of like Bombay has the ducks name trademarked. And so the ice palace is the home of the ducks or something like something crazy where like, and so the ducks have to change their name and the don't bothers become the

ducks due to trademark law. Interesting. Do you think they want to go into copyright law on a kid's show? I mean, it wouldn't shock me. Again, if I go over it, you mean mention it for two seconds and then... Gloss over it loosely

and then add some points that maybe don't add up and go. Yeah, for sure. I guess maybe I could see that happening. It's like in D3 when they changed the school logo to the Ducks. Was it the

Indians to the Ducks? Warriors. Warriors. Yeah, I hated that too. I thought that was fucking bullshit. You know. Eden Hall was a historic, you know, hockey institution. And just to change the name to the Ducks, I thought that was bullshit.

I mean, if they changed Team USA's logo to the Ducks, America's logo to the Ducks logo, then, like, they have the audacity to change everything to the Ducks logo, Brandon. But then what do you do with... What do you do with all the... Do they just go... If that happens, the Ducks are just in the Ice Palace? What happens... And then you were saying the old Ducks just pick a new name?

They keep all their fancy facilities and shit? Yeah, they just become like, their fancy facilities and shit. Yeah. They just become like the Hendricks death Hawks or death. I said, do you think they name them? They rename them the Hawks and then just forget about the, you know, no,

I'd have to, it would be like the, the Hendricks men, a TARS. A men, a TAR is a much better team name. Anything's better than the don't bother that's true especially a minotaur Thanks for listening, everyone. Please remember to follow and like us on Instagram at TheCakeEatersPod, on Twitter at TheCakeEaters. Also reach out to us via email,

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