The Cake Eaters - 78. What About Bob?

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

On today's episode, Heath and Brandon dissect the highest-grossing live-action Disney movie from 1991, What About Bob? The boys talk through 90s nostalgia, Bill Murray's general asshole-ness, Robin Williams being the first choice to play Bob, Brandon sharing the same hairline as Bill Murray, choosing The Wire over The Sopranos, and Heath getting mistaken for Bill Murray's son in the Orlando Airport. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram & TikTok (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

Remember, it's not worth winning if you can't win! Yeah! Alright, you want to talk about weird? I get dizzy spells, nausea, cold sweats, hot sweats, fever blisters, difficulty breathing, difficulty swallowing, blurred vision, involuntary trembling, dead hands, numb lips, fingernail sensitivity, and pelvic discomfort. You know what I'm truly afraid of brandon what if my heart stops beating what if what if i'm looking for a bathroom and i can't find it my bladder explodes you know what might even be worse you ever heard of tourette's shit eating son of a bitch bastard douche back numb nuts bitch I'm nuts, bitch. When he's talking to Richard Dreyfuss and he says, you know what I'm truly afraid of?

What if my heart stops beating? I felt that in my core. Because my dad used to always be like, what's the worst that could happen? What's the worst that could go wrong? He would always say that. I'd just be like, you know what? I could die. That's the worst I could have.

I could die. As somebody with anxiety, what if my heart stops beating? I felt that in my core. I was like, dude, I was like dude I get it I get it I am extremely extremely glad

I do not have pelvic discomfort though that sounds terrible Brandon tell them tell the people who we are and why we're doing this movie and what movie we're doing you just got real dark by the way i know this went under a cloud this is the the cake eaters podcast uh i'm where what are the fanny pack boys right that's what i called us last week fanny pack boys brandon god damn it

it's not a good nickname we're the cake eaters. I'm Brandon, but not adulterers, right? Yes, yes. Not part-time adulterers. Full-time cake eaters. I'm Brandon. That's Heath. We are talking today, Heath, about the highest grossing live-action film by disney in 1991 and and it is not what you think people it is not what you think it is what about bob and starring bill murray yeah richard dreyfus who i love jaws great movie love that guy um julia hattery is that the wife's name something like that right yeah she's in stuff she's julie julie hagerty god i butchered that julia haberty julie hagerty and she always plays like the spacey mom and i feel like you know what i mean like that's just like she's

very typecast oh my god she's the mom and freddy got fingered daddy would you like some sausage daddy would you like some sausage remember that fucking insane movie wow when's the last time you've had an opportunity to talk about freddy got fingered never honestly tom Green's finest film out there if you haven't seen it people go check out that wildly insane movie but also the creme de la creme our girl

the greatest tutor that the junior goodwill games have ever witnessed have ever seen also a fantastic um new york city uh detective right on law and order criminal attempt yep all i know is brandon what are you waiting for the ice to freeze let's play we have katherine erby miss mckay yep i keep wanting to call her uh uh miss bliss you know i got saved by the bell in my head for some reason i don't know why it's you know yeah no no miss mckay miss mckay um she she plays not a huge part but plays the daughter just somewhat she's she's good she was fifth build fifth build

yeah okay yeah she was she's i mean she was good like she she becomes friends with bob they they tie him to the boat takes sailing for the first time she was rocking those uh those early 90s like severely chopped bangs oh my gosh yeah that hair was something else you'd love this yeah yeah that's uh that's really good but we got to talk about the sun too charlie corsmo he goes on to play the sun in one of my favorite movies from the early 90s hook yeah easy top five i got a lot of heat for it but a hook is a top five robin williams movie of all time i don't care what the haters say top easy easy top five i probably without like doing like a severe um you know walkthrough of all his movies i would probably i think if i were to put

together a list it'd probably be top five yeah see what i'm saying yeah it's a solid i love that movie did you know robin williams was actually the first choice to play bob wiley i saw that after i was taking a lap around IMDB. How do you think that would have gone though? I think it would have been way better. You think so? Cause like Bill Murray, like was almost too believable and it felt like this,

like Bill made you nervous that this might happen. Bill Murray was yes. Bill Murray, he, he, he crushed he crushed this character. He did very well. But Bill Murray is – he – first of all, Bill Murray is an asshole. I think everybody knows that. comes through in this uh uh character portrayal whereas i think if robin williams did it he would not come off as an asshole he it would be more um charming for lack of a better word i guess it would be more it would i think if you have robin williams as bob wiley the fact that the family likes him and wants to hang out with him would make more sense yeah yeah like the

the whole family seeing him as endearing made you really question there's what the dad did to raise that family because he's like what the fuck yeah i love bill murray uh as an actor he's hilarious he's great one thing bill mur Murray is not is endearing, though. Yeah, that's true. Bill Murray is, as Richard Dreyfuss described him in an interview, in regards to this movie, Bill Murray was an Irish drunken bully. Yikes. It's just, it's good that there's a there's a review that is just absolutely baffled that this movie could be rated so low on imdb but it was just i don't know i i think i told

you offline one of my buddies he had this on vhs right and this is in the early 90s so you only have a certain arsenal of vhs tapes to watch and so this is one if you're a fucking poor person well yeah i feel like that's been established it's not that we were like poor poor it was just that like we were very frugal and didn't have a ton of disposable income to spend on such lavish things as standalone vhs tapes we recorded them with commercials from the tv like a real fucking midwest american family just just make more money he's tell that to big mike um but uh wait what were we talking about um oh yeah he just he watched this movie all the time, and I remember just being like, hey, man, let's not watch that movie. I don't like it.

Like, I just – I did not like – let's retire the What About Bob VHS tape because it's not for your boy. It's an okay movie. It's very – it's only an hour and a half long. That was its saving grace. It was very short. It felt so much longer because nothing really happens except Bill Murray just being annoying. That's really the only thing going on. And then there's like – towards the end, there's like the explosion and the party. But other than that, it's just him annoying the

shit out of richard dreyfus i wouldn't even say annoying i would say terrorizing yeah like him terror and like to be fair like they could have done a better job of like like richard dreyfus what is his name dr marvin like was kind of the worst like he was kind of the worst but they didn't like you know what i mean like he wasn't always there for his family and he's a workaholic and well they're trying to they're trying to put you they're trying to get you on bob bob bill murray side um the you know they're trying to get you to root for him rather than leo um they're trying to make leo the bad guy but again because bill murray's such a fucking asshole it doesn't come across

like i i at least for me i come across being like this bob guy's the worst thing that could ever happen to anybody well he i found no charm no like i listen that's why that's why i think robin williams would have been way better he would have brought you would have you would have liked him more yeah you would have been like oh my god how can you not like this guy like he's he's fantastic but like you know and and i say this brandon as someone who was once recognized as one of bill murray's children like you know i have i have a soft spot you gotta you gotta tell that again because i'm sure a lot of people haven't because i don't even remember what episode that was on it was it was buried in the game changers it was buried in game changers all right so all of those of you who are not game changers fans which makes a lot of people. I once, did I tell you the trip I was on too

and why I was in Florida? It was so I- I don't remember. I, a long time ago, I flew to Florida for the one and only Daytona 500 race with my sister, Heidi. It was fantastic. We had so much fun.

But on my way home after this amazing weekend at the Daytona 500, I'm sitting in the Orlando airport all by myself at like a chair. And I'm wearing a like one of the what was that website that did the Bill Murray head shirts? There was a website that did bill murray head shirts and i had one of those on because you know like i didn't like this movie necessarily but like caddy shack ghostbusters like caddy shack no i love caddy shack i love ghostbusters i didn't you didn't like what about bob i could yeah what about bob was not my favorite bill murray joint but anyway so i had one of those shirts on and these two old ladies come up to me and they're like excuse us excuse us and i was like hello hello strange old ladies and they're like

hey sorry we just had to ask you is that your dad and i forgot what shirt i was wearing so i looked down i'm like um uh bill murray you you think bill murray's my dad and they're like oh sorry yeah you just you kind of look the same it's like yeah yes two old ladies in the orlando airport i most normal celebrity children wear t-shirts of their dad's heads around in public to draw attention to it but anyways i love so i love i love their their like rationale they're thinking where they're they're like okay this dude he's wearing somebody's head on his shirt he actually kind of looks like the head that's on his shirt i wonder if that's his dad no no i wonder maybe maybe he's wearing a

shirt of himself you know no it's got it's definitely wearing a shirt of his dad like and and like what do you think their conversation was before they approached me like hey hey gladys you think that's fucking bill murray's kid well did they know it was bill murray or yeah because they're like is that your dad and i was like bill murray and they're like oh sorry we just you kind of look like bill murray we thought he might have been your dad oh okay so the the way the way you phrased it at first i thought maybe they didn't realize it was bill murray on the shirt until he said it well and that's why i was so confused because i was like well why why would you think that i was wearing a t-shirt of my dad and why would you think my

dad is bill murray yeah uh yeah let's uh anyways yeah so it's funny that that came up again because i have i have in my notes uh it's like the first note i took um when i was watching this movie i wrote in my notes i was like you know i think me and bill murray have the same hairline yeah it's rough stuff it's it's pretty it's pretty close yeah and then i started thinking of myself should i grow should i grow one, like, 90s mullets? Yeah. Might be. Just like the Gene Wilder and Willy Wonka.

It's just crazy. So working from home, sometimes my hair, because I wear hats everywhere I go, and then I work from home so I don't have to see people in pump like then all of a sudden i'll like have a moment where i'm like oh i have to like do a work trip and then i look at my hair and i'm like oh my god this is just so long and so and like kelly i'll be like hey are are you gonna go get a haircut soon because it's just stringy and long and i kind of look like you know gene wilder yeah yeah mine does the same thing too if i go yeah it's stringy mine doesn't get too stringy because mine's where where i have hair it's pretty thick it's just not it's just not on all of my head you know yeah yeah mine's starting to get real real stringy um i did bill murray did do a good job of like walking down the road and trying to like how he couldn't get in the elevator i just i feel like the movie would have been so much better if bob would have ended up

being the bad guy in the end right and like the doctor you you needed it to either with bill murray you needed something like that um to where everybody realizes bob's a fucking crazy person or you needed robin williams where it's charming and then you could kind of go with this but like i like i said bill murray's just not he's not uh he's an asshole and it comes it comes through like fully like he's he's, he's the worst. Like he really is. I, I did laugh really hard though. When he was like, um, are you married? He's like, no, I'm divorced. And he's like, well, you want to talk about that? And he's like, well, let me just say it like this.

There are two types of people in this world. Those who like Neil Diamond and those who don't. My ex-wife loves him. Unlike Saving Silverman, who don't my ex-wife loves him unlike saving silverman bob was not a fan of neil diamond and divorced his wife because of it i know i thought he was gonna say something along i thought he was going to be like um she slept with neil diamond i thought i thought that's where he was going with that but um when he's in the office that that same scene, there's the great little monologue that you opened up with. And then there's Richard Dreyfuss has a really great line.

So he has that statue, right? That bust. Is that of him? Is that a statue of himself? Or is that a statue? Or is that a it might be a Freud is who I was thinking. i think it was freud because the sigmund and anna were named after yeah he's uh he named his kids after freud and freud's daughter um i just couldn't tell if that was oh yeah okay that was definitely a freud statue now that i look up a picture of sigmund freud

but at first when i first saw it i was like that motherfucker's got a statue of himself it kind of looks like him it it did i i thought it was him at first but i was just i gotta be honest with you i did there was uh there's about 10 minutes of scrolling halfway through this movie like 10 50 like somebody sent me something and i was like oh okay and i just kind of got lost the one i do have to say the one piece i forgot at the end of the tourette's one is where he's like uh so why are you doing that and he's like well if if i fake it then i don't have it yeah that was a good one yeah i thought that was pretty funny i loved how uh i loved the the the line that richard uh dreyfus has that i loved was um it's a little bit later it's still in that same scene he's like because he just he just wrote a book right and he's doing an interview with good morning america that's like the that's the only

thing that happens i guess in this movie yeah but he's like talking to bob bob's giving him his whole spiel and he goes you know what bob and he's like standing next to this is the bookcase which is just filled with his book that he just wrote yeah you know what bob there's a there's a groundbreaking new book that could help you out here and it's his fucking book like what fucking oh my god yeah when he's uh makes the note and says to charge him $25.99 for the book. Yeah. God. It's just. Oh, my God. Him on the bus made him even. Like, where I was fake vomiting on the bus the whole time. And then how the bus cheers him on when he got off.

Like, the character of Bob was so incredibly unlikable yeah and like he like the you know what you don't want is a crazy dude teaching your son about Tourette's and then have your son go buy dog pissing barf the so one thing i absolutely need to talk about, and it ties into what I'm going to say here. The way that he goes about – so for anybody who's listening that hasn't seen the movie, Bob's old psychiatrist pawns him off on Richard Dreyfuss. He's like, hey, good luck. He's like, I'm – he's retiring. He's retiring. Yeah, whatever.

His version of like I'm leaving the business. I'm taking a hiatus. But he wasn't. He's just he's just trying to offload Bob because Bob is fucking crazy. Ruined his life. Like he went crazy because of Bob. But so Bob has his first session with Richard Dreyfuss. And then Richard Dreyfuss goes, oh, I'm going on vacation. And Bob freaks out because he's's gonna be gone for a month and he

won't be able to see the psychiatrist for a month so richard jeffers leaves and then bob goes on this wild fucking journey where he uh does every insane stalker thing in the book to figure out where he went on vacation exactly where uh leo is uh pretends that he killed himself pretends that he killed himself he's calling everybody he's he's he's getting uh he's getting a lady of the night a sex worker to pretend to be uh his sister on a phone call it was insane but so that that's yeah that whole thing of him figuring out where the dude was was insane like absolutely insane and it once again made him wildly unlikable yeah yeah because it was like this is psycho scary shit and he pretends to be a cop i forgot about that yeah it's just oh my god but what i want to talk about okay for well i mean i could

we we might need to dive into this for the next probably four hours he's oh my god that is and i don't know how i don't know how much information you're gonna have because you're not that much older than me but you might have some more otherwise we're gonna have to do some google things what the fuck is that phone service oh like the old it's like the old um like large buildings and office buildings used to have like rotary exchange people that would like like before the phones could do it on their own so oh so that was specifically for the building that's what yes yes okay that makes more sense and i thought that was just like what everybody who had a phone could do was like have a fucking service that did that no no no no no like okay you know what i mean that's like that's like large building in new york city before they had wait that makes so much more sense that it was for

the building when you just did this forehead thing hearts shot out of your forehead you got some wild zoom like features going on it's gotta be it's gotta be the new webcam that i got yeah this is it's good shit it's good shit but it keeps happening but uh but yeah that's what that's what that is brandon that's like old, like there used to be. I don't know why that didn't click in my head that it was just for the building. But now you say that, it makes so much more sense. I was like, what kind of fucking like, you know, crazy, like, because I knew of like operators and all that, like where you would call it but the it was the fact that she was like that she knew where he was that she you know she had the fucking um the the backup doctor that

she knew everything about his goddamn life yeah that's like the secretaries for that building yeah so that makes so much more sense i thought it was just like a weird phone service i was like why does she know so much about this guy? Because that was before, you know, like the phones could actually like start routing things. And like, you know, before you could like type it in and it would do it automatically. Yeah, exactly. Like you had to do that, you know, like that's back when we had a phone. I don't have to talk about it for four hours now because you. Very quickly.

You stitched it up for me yeah i don't know why i didn't that didn't click in my head but i was like that was that i was thinking about the whole entire movie i was like what the fuck is this phone thing that's crazy um but it's just yeah that whole it's like when people uh i i felt like um i did laugh really hard when he was like oh you're debbie or whatever and he said he was betty betty betty that's what it was but i because i was thinking about that the whole fucking movie and it was it i felt like you know when you're like talking to a little kid um and you're like you know we didn't have internet before and they're like fucking mind blown they're like i can't believe you lived like that. Like, I had that kind of, like, thing throughout this whole movie.

I was like, that fucking phone service is blowing my mind. Yeah. Oh, you know what was another thing that made him super unlikable outside of all the fake vomiting stuff? It was when he got out of the bus and just started screaming the doctor's name. Like, it was supposed to be funny, funny i think but it just came off as completely like it was like unbelievable it was just like oh my god oh my god although it wasn't a short amount of time he was screaming his name for a while yes and in the most absurd way possible um the the line that i don't want to forget is when he's

charming the doctors i pulled it up because i thought it was so funny he's like reminds me of my favorite poem which is roses are red violets are blue violets are blue i'm a schizophrenic and so am i yeah i don't know why that made me laugh so much. And the only line that I liked from the daughter, what's her face? What's it, Miss McKay? Catherine Herbie. Yeah, when she was like, I thought you were born an old man, Dad. I loved when he's in town, he's screaming Dreyfus's name.

And then he's like, you stay here i'll call you uh in two hours so he's like i'll call you on the the the diner phone or whatever yeah he goes into that the diner that's the greek couple that greek couple was fucking cracking me up they were they were really good they were really good that the uh leo bought the house from under them and yeah she she never says that yeah he's a real son of a she never says that that's all she says throughout the rest of the movie they're always like they're like the peanut gallery yeah they're like always the peanut gallery like anytime they're always in the background like like oh son of a when the house blows up they're like that's that was another good like wrinkle

that they unleashed Bob upon the doctor for coming in and stealing their dream home yeah oh my god we've gone this far Heath we've gone this far I don't know how far how long we've been talking you know

five days probably and we haven't we haven't even brought up gill that's true oh my god the fact that this didn't become a thing in the 90s and the fact that like this movie did so well and we've got the highest grossing live action film released by disney in 1991 and and like this is the same time we've got public highest grossing live action film released by disney 1991 and like this is the same time we've got public enemy coming out soon with flavor flay with the big clocks like how did we not get goldfish chains like that's talk about a fucking missed opportunity of the time goldfish chains brandon so gil i wrote my notes gil is gil was the star of the show he stole the show because

he's chilling on the necklace that he's carrying around his neck and then there's the the scene in the diner where he's like he like freaks out and he's like oh god do you have a bowl you're gonna bowl or a pitcher of water he's like it has to get gil out of the he's like i'm so sorry you were sitting there so long in the little jar um and then i love he's getting set he's suffocating in there the best the my favorite part of the whole fucking movie is so it's right when uh so he goes to the house right bob goes to the house he meets uh julie uh hagerty faye the uh leo's wife he meets her for the first time they have a little conversation and then him and leo like start walking away to go talk and he's like stepping down the stairs of their house and julie comes running out and she goes

oh bob can i take your fish she says it's so like like matter of fact like it like it's a normal thing fucking thing that he has got a fish on his neck. She's like, oh, do you want me to hold Gil for you? His shirt that he wore in this movie is pretty legendary. Don't hassle me. I'm local. Those are all over Savannah, you know, because that's a very touristy place. That shirt was good. That was quite a modern outfit, too, like the cut-off sweatpants shorts,

the don't hassle me, I'm local big tee. Oh, my God. We got to get that shirt, too, don't hassle me, I'm local. Yeah. I also, I think my favorite part was when he was tied to the boat and he's like driving by and yelling at the doctor about like how great he did like and then when he comes

when he comes and he's talking to the kid he's like sailed on my first try not a big deal the key is you let the boat do the work that's the key his interactions with with siggy are great when he's like uh when they're on the dock and siggy's trying to like uh dive or whatever and he's holding the he's holding his shirt and hold him the he's like don't make me do it please don't

make me do it that and then the the sleepover they have where ziggy goes um because apparently ziggy like this is another thing they didn't quite like flesh out fully but apparently ziggy's like a like a depressed goth kid the way that that leo talks to him he's like why you always wear black you're obsessed with death well do you hear what he's remember what he said to his dad after he says that to him i forgot what he said maybe i'm mourning my lost childhood oh yeah what a line from the kid back to his his psychiatrist dad i thought that was fantastic but um and then he has the sleepover with bob and he goes on this fucking like five minute monologue about death which is amazing

i wish i had the whole thing i don't have the whole thing i have the end of it though which is fantastic he goes so he's talking about death and how it's uh how every he's he's afraid of it bob's afraid of it and he ends it with um you're gonna die i'm gonna die what more is there to be afraid of it's beautiful i mean it i mean it it really is i mean the only i was trying to look for the for the line the only thing that it has is where they're faking Tourette's Syndrome back and forth to each other. It goes, shit for brains, butthead, dingleberry butt,

snot face, vulture vomit, turkey tits, belch breath. Oh, I did remember one of the things he says in his monologue about death is he goes, he's talking about how he's going to die – or Bob's going to die and he's going to die. But he says something like – but I'm not – he's like, you'll probably die pretty soon though, Bob. I still got like 80 years.

That was good stuff. You're really staring down the barrel there, Bob. Yeah. But yeah, Ziggy, that fucking death monologue was great. Fucking fantastic. Oh, another thing we got to talk about, speaking of Ziggy's lost childhood and how Leo is really fucking this family up this family up what's with the puppets

oh my god i i put that in my notes like boy making that teenage girl talk to you and using hand puppets because she took a crazy like why do you think that she was like you know what this insane patient of my dad's this is really gonna stick it to that fucker for making me use all these goddamn hand puppets to talk about my feelings my whole childhood like some of this is comeuppance right like that's what it was supposed to be it's like this doctor is kind of the worst but like now that we talk about it being robin williams the main target it just that would have been a so much more charming movie right like there would have been charm and fun and instead this is for people with dark humor

that want to see psychopaths torture their psychiatrists yeah there was a lot i so robin williams i read was the first choice but there was also like um they they considered a handful of other people for bill murray's role as well as a handful of other people for richard drivers's role like it wasn't them it got these were kind of like you know it got filtered down and this is what we ended up with was these two but they wanted um um i know they wanted uh patrick stewart to play uh the psychiatrist for a little bit that would have been solid yeah that would have been a different feel too yeah um i think they wanted like uh i think they they toyed with uh goldbloom instead of build murray uh goldbloum would have been too weird.

Here we go. So they were thinking, they considered Jack Nicholson, James Caan, Chevy Chase, Kevin Kline, and Michael McKean for the role of the psychiatrist. Those were all considerations.

They looked at Tom Hanks for Bob. That would have been been I don't know I'm not a big Tom Hanks guy honestly Eddie Murphy was considered for the role of Bob that would have been good I would have liked Eddie yeah that would have been interesting what was the other one Hercules Hercules

oh Steve Guttenberg. That would have been a good Bob. Michael Keaton. Rick Moranis. Michael Keaton. Randy Quaid. Batman.

Dude, John Travolta. That's who they should have fucking. Go grease lightning. Burn it down. Grease lightning. Go grease lightning. lightning go grease lightning that's the only thing I can think of with John Travolta give me this movie

but with John Travolta and Jack Nicholson as the the the actors that would have been unhinged yeah it's anyway i don't know it

i don't know there really isn't too much to talk about like you said because it's just bill murray is a crazy person who torments this poor doctor to into going crazy because everything falls apart and then bill murray marries his freaking sister and then he finally quits being he goes yeah he goes crazy catatonic you know he stops being catatonic after bill murray no that wasn't a fun and funny end to the movie either like do you think people thought that was funny yeah i think they did i think people did you think people thought that was funny? Yeah, I think they did. I think people. Did you think it was funny? I just didn't laugh.

I didn't laugh. I didn't really laugh much at all. I laughed more at theater camp than I did at this. Oh, yeah. Theater camp was way more hilarious. The only thing I laughed at was fucking Gil. Yeah, Gil was funny funny him listing all of his diseases was really funny um yeah yeah it was uh yeah it was just like i said there's not a lot that happens it's just bill murray you know tormenting this guy yeah being an asshole

um but people in the 90s loved this. This movie... Like I said, I had to watch this movie all the time. I haven't watched this movie since I was a little kid because, like I said, it was deep in a friend's VHS rotation. And so there were a lot of forced watches back in the day. So Bravo, I don't know when they did this, but Bravo put together a list of the 100 greatest comedies and this was 45 which is insane absolutely there's there's no way this

movie gets made today right like it just makes a complete mockery of mental health i would say it's um if you look at imdb there's alternate versions and it talks about um talks about um some of the scenes like when they played on television uh some of the scenes they cut um they change the language they edit out um Tourette's Syndrome and they call it Buddy Disease. The fuck? That's not going to be funny. Well,

7 on IMDb and 45th greatest comedy according to Bravo. What's, oh, and then Rotten Tomatoes, it's got a great score too. It's got 82% from the critics and 79 from the audience.

Like, to be fair, we've talked about, like, my movie taste typically does not line up with the general public. Like, there's a lot of classic movies that I'm just okay on that. People are like, this is not my target market either. Or my, yeah. Cause I, it's just not my sense of humor. I don't like people being the worst and like being like, I don't know. The, the like eighties into the early 90s trope of like just assholes being hilarious

in movies uh i don't i never i don't i never get it like it's just like that like time frame of comedies like late 80s early 90s is just i i don't i it's not my cup of tea i don't care for it like i like all those like um trying to think of like a good example um but all those like this gives like stripes city slickers three amigos yeah all those movies dirty rotten scoundrels The Great Outdoors All those movies Anything with like Chevy Chase Or like John Candy

Like I just I don't care for them It's not my cup of tea It's not for me Like Uncle Buck I hate Uncle Buck Uncle Buck sucks I like Uncle Buck Christmas Uncle Buck sucks. Yeah. I like Uncle Buck, but it's just because...

Christmas Vacation, not a fan of. Oh, I actually... Kelly and I talk about that all the time. We are not Christmas Vacation people. It's just like those... Like you said, it's... Because like Ben Stiller has this similar kind of trope, like where the main character just... Like there's a character who's kind of the worst, but has this endless barrage of shit happened to them.

And it gives me too much anxiety, Brandon. That's probably what it is. It gives me too much anxiety watching all these like worst case scenarios unfold and happen to someone it's like i don't find humor in that i find anxiety in that i'm with you i don't i don't uh yeah i don't care for it it's like it's like that that look that time frame like late 80s, early 90s, those comedies, like a lot of the John Hughes movies, I love... I'd say I love half of John Hughes

movies, and the other half I will never watch ever again. I don't care for them. They're not that good. Or like Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. I didn't care much for that one either. I hate that movie. I won't watch that movie. The Jerk, didn't care for that one. i don't think i've ever seen that one but yeah i just yeah it's the the the trope of just like the asshole comedy not a not a fan of it you

know yeah i agree this movie was a hit though like i Like I said, it's the highest grossing live-action film released by Disney in 1991. Yeah. It should be no surprise that we don't like it that much. It may double its money. Yeah. But, yeah, like I said, Bill Murray, as funny as Bill Murray is, Bill Murray is the problem with the movie. He's too much of an asshole, it's it doesn't it doesn't come off charming or endearing you don't want to root for him um and then you i read a bunch about the production of this movie because like i said everybody fucking hated bill murray uh because

he's he's legitimately an asshole in real life um respect richard dreyfus Hates I'm pretty sure they hate each other still to this day Yeah Because I was reading I forget Kind of the lead up to it But essentially Bill Murray threw An ashtray At Richard Dreyfuss' head

There's another Part where They were shooting at at richard dreyfus's head he uh there's another uh part where um it's in one of the they were shooting one of the the lake scenes and bill murray got upset with one of the producers and threw her in the lake god did you imagine if he did that now canceled big time it's it's um well he's still he's still an asshole people's like i people still talk about how much of an asshole he is working with him him and chevy chase seem like just the worst people in the fucking world yeah that's that was like a lot of and i think they they hate community like do you remember the show community with like all like everybody hated him there and like eventually it

just got to be too much and they phased him out. If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure Chevy Chase and Bill Murray hate each other too. Like they're like sworn enemies, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah, they are. Wait, hold the phone. Time out. You know what role Richard Dreyfuss plays in a very key childhood movie for your boy Heath.

Talk about Jaws. He is centipede from James and the Giant Peach. Oh, yeah. I loved that movie as a kid. I don't know why, but I love that. James, James, James, where are you? Isn't it a lovely day? Do you remember that?

Yeah, that movie fucked me up when I was a kid. Oh, dude, I love that. I love that movie. I thought it was just so good. Do you know what else he was in? He was in Jaws. He played a good player. Stand By Me.

Oh, Jaws, yeah, yeah. I was never a big Jaws. I think I've talked about this on the on the podcast before jaws is my favorite movie of all time i love that he was in a lot of 70s tv richard dreyfus yeah a lot of 70s tv but jaws jaws is probably my freaking grandma and grandpa loved watching gun smoke dude Jaws is probably the greatest movie ever made though I saw that movie when I was like five years

old changed who I am as a person Jesus I mean yeah I wasn't a big I wasn't a big Jaws fan you know just you just didn't really you wouldn't get it i didn't wait hold on the girl that plays lily when you she's a puppeteer like when you click on it elmo pops up from 1970 to 2019 she's been on 505 episodes of Sesame Street.

Yeah, the guy who directs this movie, Frank Oz, is the voice of Fozzie Bear, Miss Piggy, like a bunch of the Muppets. And a bunch of other, he does a bunch of other voice acting. I'm trying to remember. Frank Oz. Sesame Street, he's a bunch of other voice acting i'm trying to remember frank oz um sesame street he's a bunch of voices and so yeah he does yoda's voice oh nice okay um yeah frank oz he's a very famous actor as well as a voice actor um yeah i i mean come on that is she plays Zoe which is like Elmo's partner in crime

yeah that's the one who's I know who Zoe is she's best friends with a rock yeah she's yeah she's she's Elmo's partner in crime so that's where most people are gonna remember her from.

And Bill Murray. Bill Murray's wife in this movie. Did you see a little cameo from... Are you a big Sopranos guy? Nah, I need to watch it though it's i never got into it because it just i was too busy during the peak and so i kind of missed it you know what i mean and then it was too robust to go back and watch i see i never really got into it i've seen a good chunk of it but i was never super into it but there is i chose the wire over

sopranos when i when i love the wire yeah that's what like i i i remember this i was in houston on the weekend i had nothing to do it was cold in the winter and i was like all right i'm gonna i'm gonna watch one of these old hbo shows because I just got HBO back. And I spent a lot of time trying to decide between The Sopranos and The Wire. And finally, it just strictly based on episode length. I went The Wire and never looked back. You know, it just I'm I'm The Wire over Sopranos, but I got to maybe rewatch Sopranos. I'm The Wire over everything. The Wire is fantastic fantastic it's so good

i brought i brought that up because there's a small cameo the the uh the sex worker the lady of the night that um he gets to pretend to be um the sister or whatever at the payphone yeah that is uh janice soprano the girl who plays Janis Soprano. Oh, nice. Ada Tuttoro? That's how you say her name. Ada Tuttoro? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, Ada Tuttoro. Yeah, Janis Soprano.

Oh, I did laugh a little bit when Bob was eating the food and he was just sitting there making noise the whole time like oh so good like he's never eaten food before that was

like mashed potatoes and corn on the cob yeah and chicken which I don't know like a real good corn on the cob yeah well I mean life changing Which I don't know, dude. Like, a real good corn on the cob is, like, life-changing. I get it. During the summer, there's some fresh, sweet corn from Big Mike's Garden.

I'm not talking about bullshit Nebraska corn, okay? I'm talking about real corn, Heath. Real corn. I know where you're going with this. I'm not going to let you. No, I'm not going there either. We have better corn, Brandon. The only thing worse than Nebraska corn is Iowa corn, okay? Thank you. All right. Thank you for

saying that. I appreciate that. Listen, I've got there is a just a... I'm talking about good old-fashioned Indiana corn. That's where it's at. Oh, my God. Indiana is barely even a place. But I am just absolutely flowing with cautious optimism for this new season. Like Nebraska had won the offseason in the Big Ten,

got the number one quarterback recruit in the nation. It's all coming together brandon just to just i have cautious optimism flowing through my veins for that husker football so i can't wait to be disappointed it's happening anyways i really don't have too much else to say about this movie like i i think i said it like i i there was like a 10 to 15 minute like scroll session that just happened in the middle of this movie. And I was like, oh, shit, I got to pay attention to this movie. I just it just it just didn't as I as it started watching, I was like, OK, I remember why I didn't like this movie. And I just I didn't find Bob charming. I didn't find it funny what he did to the doctor guy.

I thought it was mean and shitty. It just wasn't for me. I just don't like movies like that, where it's just an endless barrage of bad things happening to one of the characters, and then you're supposed to find it charming. I just don't. It's just not there. I feel you. Brandon, I don't know what it's just not really uh i feel like we just brandon i don't

know what the deal is with your movie choices or why you stacked up all the ones that i don't like like all in a row but jesus christ so i'm trying to get through you know we i'm trying to to touch other um ducks that we haven't touched before. Yeah. Like really like, like Miss McKay. We've never done a Miss McKay movie. We did.

I mean, we did Coob. We did a gunner. Even though we don't know where in the movie he was, he was in the movie. He's in the movie. You know, we did,

we did a coach a with the pacifier. I'm trying to, we're trying to, you know, touch everybody. The pacifier was fun to to we're trying to you know touch everybody the pacifier was fun to re-watch that's a re-watchable even though it's not very good well yeah i i i hated the pacifier um but uh you know i'm trying to you know touch touch touch people other than the may ducks trying to get trying to get everybody the ball here heath

you know um i guess and we got some I guess. We do have some good ones. So the next two that we're going to hit should be good. One of them I know is fucking amazing. And one of my favorite movies. And the other one I have high hopes for. I've never seen it before. But I have high hopes for it. Do you want me to spoil it?

Should we spoil it for the listeners? Sure, because I got logged out of our doc again. Jesus Christ. Computer restarted. Say it. What is it? So the next two we're going to do, I don't know which orders they're going to come out in yet, but Can't Hardly Wait is one of the next ones.

That one's so good. I was obsessed with that. It was on Showtime when we had Showtime. One of my favorite movies. I fucking love that movie. I was in love with Jennifer Love Hewitt as a kid because that was right as I was hitting that primetime adolescence. And so I was just like, oh, oh my god this is the most beautiful human like like it was like i was never like oh my god she might even be more beautiful than the pink

ranger like that's how that's how like head over heels i hit i fell for her well asked for me i was never a big jennifer love you a guy oh man i definitely was definitely was you know what i was a big fan of those seth green and his goggles dude oh my god seth green in this movie was so good it was it was and what was it who was the guy that uh what was the song that he always listened to it was like anna or something we'll save it for that podcast we'll save it for that podcast but that is a good one to get excited about so yeah that's a good one and then another so that and that has um the duck connection for that is uh james from d2 oh nice okay yeah he's how could you forget james like let's go get him team usa

exactly he's the the coach uh not not the coach we deserved but the coach we needed yeah yeah the saving grace uh he he has a small a real small role in can't hardly wait i think he's only in it for a couple scenes um and then uh after or yeah after that i guess is um i found a movie with uh olaf in it olaf sanderson oh what it's it's but so it's it's olaf plays uh he's got a he's not the main guy he's a smaller role in it but it also has um it's called green room um from 2015 it's uh okay it's it's it's um it's not gonna be a scary movie it's not a scary movie but people do get murdered in it heath okay that's fine i'm not afraid of that it's not like supernatural anything i'll read you the synopsis real quick so psychological thriller type of thing yeah so here's here's the quick

synopsis it's a punk rock band is forced to fight for survival after witnessing a murder at a neo nazi bar that they played at oh jesus okay that sounds right wait hold on we didn't do our cakey ratings for what about bob no we're still we're gonna get to it but oh we are okay okay i thought i didn't know where we were at here i was just yeah i was just gonna wrap this up but yeah um kai lennox is um the guy who plays olaf sand. He's in the green room. So is Patrick Stewart. Patrick Stewart's in green room.

Anton Yelich, remember him? He RIP passed away. Did you watch the new Star Treks? No. Well, like the new Star Trek movies? Oh, yeah. Okay. The guy that got crushed by his car when the emergency break? Yeah, he played Chekhov. Yeah. He's the guy that got crushed by his car when the emergency break. Yeah, he played Chekhov.

He's the main guy in that movie. So I've never seen this movie, but I've heard great things about it. And the fact that Olaf Sanderson is in it. Win-win. I do have a bad feeling he's probably going to be the Nazi, though. That blonde hair and blue eyes, man. That'll get you.

That will get you. But yeah, so those are the next two movies um just give everybody a little heads up a little um a little teaser a little amuse bouche as they say do they say that i don't know they say that as soon as i said that i was like i don't think that's right um that sounded real fucking wrong but kinky radiant teeth kinky for what about bob what about bob did you like what did you like when they uh when the kid dropped that line in the movie when he was like they dropped that a hundred times but what about bob yeah what about Bob? Yeah. What about Bob? God, I didn't like it, but I don't feel comfortable rating it lower than some of the movies that I've rated. So I'm just going to go two cakes for What About Bob. Two? Yeah.

That's fair. That's fair. Two cakes for What About Bob. Just for the 1991 nostalgia. I did 2.25 2.25 that's higher than i thought it would be i it's not it's just it's just you know it's not terrible if you like bill if you like bill mooney and you like dark humor you'll love it um maybe that's what it is sometimes the dark humor movies don't always speak to me i want my funny movies to be funny i i enjoy dark humor i have dark humor uh myself

um as evidenced by the the dead mom jokes but you know time there's a time and a place and the time and place is not the entire movie you know it just gets so old it just it really does you're like jesus can you just could you at least like could they make him maybe not be the absolute worst towards the end like could could we start to taper off some of the terribleness i think they tried to but uh yeah it just didn't yeah again again i know we've said it a bunch of times but robin williams would have made this a million times better yeah as much as i like bill murray love like i love bill murray i'm i'm basically his son but like this this bill we have the same hairline yeah dude like and like he his his thing in ghostbusters

that's a perfect role for him there right like his thing in caddyshack just being completely unhinged that was really funny stuff see that's i think that's where this this suffers as well as um have you ever seen Groundhog Day? Yeah. Groundhog Day I think suffers from the same thing that this movie suffers from, which is it's too much Bill Murray. He's great when he can be on the side unhinged. But when he's front and center 24-7, you need a breakup. Some buffer. Yeah, you need somebody to come in and lift spirits a little bit yeah

because otherwise it's just it's too much gets a little old so I give it a 2.25 not terrible I would pick this over this is definitely better than the fucking monkey movie

MVP it's way better than the fucking monkey movie. MVP. It's way better than the pacifier. I think. Yeah. I don't know, but it's just out of all the Bill Murray movies. Like I said, I would take almost all of his movies over this one.

Yeah. Even Garfield. Maybe. Yeah. I would just see a Bill Murray. He's, he's, he's not would just yeah Bill Murray he's not necessarily

leading man material you need he's better on the side as a side character plus one yeah exactly like with Caddyshack he was an ensemble Ghostbusters an ensemble he's like the um

he's like the person that you want your friend i'm gonna phrase this entirely weirdly but you'll get what i mean at the end he's the guy that you like you don't want to marry bill murray but you wouldn't be opposed to your friend marion bill murray because it's like then i you know he he comes around a little bit but i can you know you can pick and choose your spots he exactly you you're not with him 24 7 you can you can you can take a break you know yeah bill murray in like moonrise Kingdom or like any of those Wes Anderson films. I love Bill Murray in all those Wes Anderson films. I'm going to – actually, I was going to say something, but that's not true.

I was going to say I've never seen a Wes Anderson film, but I have. I've seen like two. I'm not a huge Wes Anderson guy though. Yeah, oh, wait wait it's a little too pretentious the best bill murray of oh man there's now now we're starting to dig in like this really is hands down my least favorite bill murray movie because now i'm pulling up bill murray movies like space jam his role in space jam like he He crushes Space Jam. Kingpin,

when he's Ernie McCracken, fucking gold. But he's alongside some big hitters in that movie too, right? It really is. Because I didn't like the larger than life elephant movie.

Little Shop of Horrors he wasn't bad in stripes i don't mind stripes but it's definitely i did not like meatballs like some of those like that's what that's what you were talking about like some of those 80s comedy movies are just hard to watch sometimes yeah pretty good like yeah Bob Groundhog Day? I don't really care for Scrooge. I hate, I hate that Scrooge movie. Yeah. Yeah.

He, you, you need somebody, you need somebody who's like, not an asshole next to him to kind of even it out and like, bring the mood up. So otherwise it's just, you know know nonstop

Bill Murray gets old real quick yeah yeah anyways well that's there you go oh wait last Bill Murray movie that he is great great in is Zombieland

when he plays himself in Zombieland as a zombie I when he plays himself in zombie land as a zombie. That's I, I got a really big kick out of that. When I watched zombie land for the first time, I was like, huh?

Talk about comedy right here. This is, this is comedy. I'm not a huge zombie land fan. Double tap Brandon. I've never seen double tap. No, that's what you have to do.

You got it. That's one of that's one of like but it's also the name of the second movie oh really oh geez okay well i'm a big fan yeah with a with a telling yourself here yeah i guess i don't know all right anyways do you have do you have any other thoughts for uh from what about Bob? No. Like you said, it's just, yeah, it's definitely not the, it's one of the worst, worst Bill Murray movies. If you want a good Bill Murray movie, like you said, go watch Kingpin. Yeah.

My God. Kingpin is from beginning to end. Bill Murray is there. And the ball and his hair. His hair. His hair. It's just, yeah. All of it is just so incredibly good. Bill Murray is there and the ball and his hair his hair is just yeah it's all of it is I have that hairline

I have that hair yeah if I if I if I that's what the hair looks like when I when I when I yeah when I haven't gotten a haircut in you know two months too long yeah it's you know you just flip it over that's what I do too you know you just flip it over that's that's that's what i do

too you do like the big comb over yeah i think the big comb and then it starts to float in the breeze because it's very wispy i that was the first my first fucking thought about this movie that was like the first like five minutes of watching this i was like dude i think i think me and bill Bill Murray have the same hair I'm pretty sure it's like exactly spot on Thanks for listening, everyone. Please remember to follow and like us on Instagram at TheCakeEatersPod, on Twitter at TheCakeEaters. Also reach out to us via email, TheCakeEatersPod at gmail.com or visit our website, thecakeeaterspod.com.