The Cake Eaters - 80. Green Room

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

On today's episode, Brandon tricks Heath into seeing the most nerve-racking movie to date, Green Room. The boys discuss Heath's aversion to scary movies, the sketchiness of the rural south, Olaf Sanderson, desert island bands, the seriously top-notch acting in this movie, and Brandon touches on a few of the punk references in a movie that is so far up his alley it's a little crazy. Follow us at www.thecakeaterspod.com and on Twitter (@thecakeeaters) and Instagram & TikTok (@thecakeeaterspod) Email us at [e-mail]

Remember, it's not worth winning if you can't win! Welcome, everybody, to the Cake Eaters Podcast. I'm your host, Brandon. As always, my co-host, Heath. Heath, how are you doing? I mean, I'm doing just okay, to be honest with you, Brandon, because my heart is still gently racing from this psychotic movie that you forced me to watch. You know I'm a sensitive soul, Brandon. You know these things, and yet you torture me with such pieces as The Green Room.

For the listeners, you'll notice we did not – he didn't sing us in to the episode today because he's he's feeling it the the the movie uh at topic today a it didn't really give us a good catchy song to sing into and it kind of felt a little uh misplaced vibe wise to to have heath's beautiful voice seeing us in um but we're talking about the 2015 movie green room i mean we could have done desert island band songs right like who that one guy said stuck with the misfits the whole way through the lead singer right the misfits the whole way through but yeah the green room green room and why are we doing it brandon this movie was so fucking intense it was just i had green not for the last night i told you this offline i told you this during halloween when you were roasting me about not doing scary i'm surprised i'm surprised i'm surprised we got you to do this

heath because like like we mentioned in what was it the casper casper was the scariest movie you were gonna do this was i don't know if i i don't know it's not scary yeah it's not like a scary movie but it's not a thriller i was just's not like a scary movie, but it's a thriller. I was just going to say, is it like a psychological thriller? It's a psychological thriller that kind of borders and crosses into horror a little bit. But yes, I guess psychological thriller would probably be the best way to put it. Yeah, and like the horror that comes from it is like the realism almost, right? Like that's just, to me, that was the scariest part is that like you know we lived in the south

this could happen at some point like this oh yeah this could be a fodder from i have i have buddies who like you know this is similar situation where you're in like a struggling band you know you're you're just out of high school you're still in high where you're in like a struggling band, you know, you're, you're just out of high school. You're still in high school. You're in a punk band. You're just trying to play any and every show you can.

So you take whatever people throw at you. And sometimes you end up in some sketchy fucking bars. Thankfully, nobody, none of them ever ran into this exact situation, but there's definitely, you know, there's definitely these places exist 100 oh yeah terrifying

yeah and and yeah like even even just i remember i remember in a place like that oh dude i would get chewed up and spit out oh yeah just we would be fodder for their dogs one thousand percent my god they were just they'd be like god this guy's the softest dude in the world oh yeah they would have yeah they would have smelled it on us they would have been these guys but i i for sure i've because uh like you like you mentioned we we lived in the south i lived in atlanta for three and a half years i'm like that i don't know but i did a lot of road trips back and forth from Colorado to Atlanta. And, you know, driving in, you know, fucking Missouri, the middle of the night, sometimes you come across gas stations that, you know, have a lot of unwel bottles everywhere a lot of sketchy situations where i mean not not

nearly as bad as this but you know you get the you get the feeling if you kept going a couple more blocks you would run into one of these places well number one that's kind of your fault brandon like when are you road tripping and not like just plugging in you got to go to truck stops only dude you you can't you can't be road tripping across the country in weird hours. You just got to go to Love's. Love's, Flying J, some of those, man. You can't. Sometimes. That's usually what I do is I'll hit Love's.

I'll hit the big ones. A quick trip or whatever. But sometimes I'm zoning out and listening to music or a podcast, and I miss the Love's, and then i look down like oh shit i'm about empty well that's why we don't have nice things but no i now that you say that too i feel like there was some very sketchy like when when we would like drive to other places from savannah to other places in georgia and have to go through smaller towns like you would see some some questionable signage as you would walk,

like, you know, be cruising along on these back roads. And it's like, oh, that's a building that I probably would never want to accidentally drop into or blow a tire out and park in the parking lot. So I loved Atlanta. Atlanta proper was amazing. And because that airport is so big, you get a lot of immigrants that come in, right? So Atlanta proper, the actual city of Atlanta, is incredibly diverse. It's a hell of a time, like art and food-wise.

It's great. Once you get outside of proper Atlanta, rural Georgia gets real sketchy real quick yeah i remember i was going golfing and we're driving at we were maybe maybe 25 minutes outside of atlanta right and we're going i think this was west so we're going west like 25 minutes we pull into the neighborhood that has the that has the golf course and every fucking house in that neighborhood, Confederate flag hanging from the fucking door. And it's like, God, what did we just pull into? Yeah. Yeah.

Kelly made us go. God, this is a super fucking Kelly story, too. But we were going to Universal just for kicks in December. And she made us go to some weird hippie village thing to do some kind of, you know, you know, like hippie village things. Right. do some kind of you know you know i don't know like hippie village things right and boy that path to the way there on that florida georgia border to the small town on like the kind of outskirts that's you just you just see stuff and you're like oh there's some interesting characters still rocking and rolling out there but anyways yeah that's to get back to the movie that is what

makes this movie so terrifying though is that like there's so much realism in it right and like and like even even how the drama all unfolded right like of like where it was just a few accidental things that happened that had to snowball into the extreme for sure yeah yeah and you can you can you can tell even because like um the best decisions on both sides are not made all the time and that i believe that adds to the realism because like when you get these these are people that are not going to think logically in the moment because you are a bunch of skinny punk rock kids and you've never you've never been in this type of scenario before yeah and like you are now in a literal life or death fight for

survival just like them handing the gun back like i was like oh that's a great decision and then he starts getting his hand fucking chopped off and i was like oh my god that was probably a really bad decision actually now that i think about this like he he definitely should have held on to that motherfucker the whole time or just shot through the door or something right like just yeah i don't know i don't know what do you do there's no win though there was no win well that's that's the thing it's like yeah i i probably would have shot through the door but but then it's like, okay, at that point you get one person if you're lucky. And then the rest just flood in in your toast.

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, there's a great quote that I wrote down that Pat is his character's name, right? Anton? Yeah. Pat, he says, like, right, I think it's right before. It's kind of where he when he tries to give the paintball like pep up talk pep talk that was so good that was so good but i think it was it was either right

before right after that when he's talking about them how they're just gonna like go out and try to make it through and he he's i wrote it down exactly because i thought it was great he goes we won't all live but maybe we won't all die you know and that was like best case scenario maybe one of us makes it through yeah you know it's all right so so should we should we do a quick synopsis and then talk about just some of the highlights because like wait wait i don't think did we i don't think we talked about why we're doing this movie oh okay i do have to say this before i forget though and then we can say unless you want to say maybe i can write it down because the only the only thing i could think about was like all right so they they break in that little thing thinking they can find a tunnel but actually

it's a secret room where they're making drugs did they ever say is it heroin it's heroin oh it's heroin oh i thought it was so i thought it was meth and so i was like you're gonna die you gotta fight for your life do you just do a little meth before you go and i mean you know you're gonna die like you know for a fact you're gonna die honestly that you are like you're tired you're scared like that's what they give that's essentially what they give the dog right is a little shot of meth dog meth well i honestly if if yeah i i probably would have done it and not heroin you don't want to fucking do heroin no no no no no i mean you die very chill you would die so chill so like but like man if that was but like would you that's a that's a fair point i definitely would for sure okay me too i totally would i thought the same thing i was like you know what dude i'm just gonna do a little rail

and meth and then i'm just gonna go fucking try try and figure this shit out dude machete shotgun i don't fucking care you might shoot me twice and that might still be going isn't that what the what the nazis were doing in world war ii right the the japanese would uh give uh their soldiers um opiates oh yeah i think they would take i think the germans yeah i think the germans were doing like the the precursor to meth yeah um yeah just uh yeah do a little line go out there and what you gotta do oh my god okay sorry thank you thank you for indulging me i was like oh yeah it's just like sitting here with myself just terrified you know just on edge so much anxiety because i felt like i was with them right so i was like putting myself in this situation with them last night

and i was like hmm what's a lot of big stacks of white powder and if i'm gonna go down i'm gonna go down in a fucking halo glory dude just that is busting out of my face that is how you don't die that is what they give the that dog right and they they they shoot i mean it wasn't exactly meth but it was um some kind of like dog meth we'll call it dog meth um and then he is that though when that when the dog i i want to say i i i wrote this in my notes and i think i texted you this i want to say before we go any further that i love these dogs and i would die for them they did nothing wrong no it's oh my god dude i can't talk about it spoiler alert spoiler alert when the dog runs across the fucking woods at the very end just

to lay in its owner's lap even though the owner was a piece of shit nazi that was heartbreaking it was dude yes i'm saying with that when when when he laid his little head yeah dude oh that poor fucking dog yeah dude the guy had everything coming to him right for for training the dogs like that like speaking of which that brings us that brings us to why we're doing this movie because clark who is the the the cashier i believe right because he was handing out the money he's the cashier slash uh um dog guy dog killer guy he's a money guy i don't know he's just a money guy but the guy who plays clark uh kai lennox you may or may not recognize him from the gym that is mighty ducks d2 he is he plays olaf sanderson our favorite goon god he was the fucking worst i think i i forget if i

forget if i left this in the actual episode minutes well worth it i forget if i if i left this in the actual episode but last last episode when we were mentioning we're gonna do this or two episodes ago when we were mentioning we're gonna do do this or two episodes ago, when we were mentioning we were going to do this movie, I might've cut it out of that actual episode, but I brought up the fact that he's in this movie and I had a very bad feeling that he was going to be a Nazi. And he definitely was definitely was. And not only just a Nazi, he was a,

a vicious dog breeding Nazi. Well, yeah, he was, he, he, he ran their dog fighting ring and he also trained their dogs to help murder people i don't i don't know if there was a dog fighting ring i think he just was raising killer

dogs to kill people i don't know if he was like fighting the dogs oh Jesus oh oh I mean they did I don't think they ever mentioned dog fighting did they no I thought I thought that um our boy Patrick Stewart oh my gosh Jean-Luc Picard beat me up Scotty let's go he crushes this movie how can you not love that guy he's such a goddamn good actor it's amazing yeah i mean you know star trek is just it's it's new generation you know you know what the series so fucking you know what this movie was missing though was his his buddy little ian mckellen you throw in an ian in here listen ian mckellen could never be a psycho nazi though i feel like he would he would just be too too epic yeah i don't yeah it would uh i've seen too many well i mean i've seen the same with patrick i was gonna say i've seen too many interviews and like non um

like acting like when he's not acting of him just being the most jovial person in the world and that laugh that it would be hard but i've seen the same with patrick stewart and he's still he's still you know he did it took me a minute though it took it took me a minute to adjust to his character because i was just like i was like luke i i know they did this on purpose it was very um the like the method there's the the theory behind because you don't like you're introduced to him yeah with his back right you only see the back of his head always talking for a while and then a good chunk of the movie he's on the other side of the door talking to you yeah that was like a concerted effort by the the filmmaker to um to kind of put you in the band's shoes you know to make it feel like you're more with them or whatever um that was smart because it did like it made you like it made you feel like you were

in that room with them and so you were kind of panicking with them for sure yeah and it was patrick fucking stewart telling you how you were gonna die basically i think that that also helped um kind of you know ease into the oh this is patrick stewart as the as a as a freaking nazi the uh the uh olaf's character this neo-nazi they're not i never know that i don't know the specific terms on what's a nazi and what's a neo-nazi neo-nazis just new nazis jeez i don't know they're all fucking losers that's all I know you know what I mean like I don't give a about their labels they can just eat a dick like I hope I don't get killed for that but like you know like I have a I have a feeling I have a feeling the Neo Nazi community

is not listening to our podcast that would make sense that would that would that would be I would be incredibly shocked and and you know abhorred if if we had a you know nazi contingent listening to just and if you are just turn it off turn it off you don't need this but um but uh olaf's name in the show was clark that was that was that dude yeah clark clark yeah yeah so that's why we're doing this movie um i tricked heath into doing a a scary movie um because it's olaf i mean this is one of this is one of the because i've made it a conscious effort to do some of the deep like the lesser some of the the true issue what's how do you say that word i don't know some of the tertiary tertiary some of the tertiary characters from

d2 right yeah the ones on the outskirts i tried to over the last couple episodes to do some of the tertiary tertiary some of the tertiary characters from d2 right yeah the ones on the outskirts i tried to over the last couple episodes to do some of those movies to kind of dig in yeah some oddballs and you know make sure olaf was great in d2 yeah he was fantastic good he was so mean this one i think worked out better than some of the other swings and misses we had like like what about bob or yeah this was actually a good movie like that's what you know what it's like like as we were just like talking about this and going back and forth in my brain to myself i was like did i kind of like this movie oh i i loved this movie it gave me weird it gave me weird dreams last night like i had dreams i was trying to escape from some type of place and like jenkins is there and it just like i don't know man like i just woke

up and was like god damn it brandon that reminds me i meant to i meant to tell you this uh off air before we started recording but i'll mention it now it's fucking stupid but i had a dream last night you were in it and we got like super high and went to like a fast food place and like i ordered my food i went and sat down we're at the at the front whatever for a little while and then you came and sat down and you you like sat down and you were like brandon why did that cost a thousand dollars and then you handed me your receipt and i was like i looked at it and i was like he they caught you ordered like 200 hamburgers that's why it cost a thousand dollars and that's that's that's all i remember from the dream but you know that's

that's everything about that is fantastic actually do you think it was like good burger mixed with us in real life or something probably that's good stuff your subconscious did some good things but um all right so so we're doing this because of olaf sanderson you know two minutes well worth it what else did he what were some of the other olaf quotes he had some he had some other stuff um there was him and him and gunner where they were like uh they were making fun of julie they're like bringing in a lady to do a man's job that's right that's right um he had some other good ones i forget but yeah uh i love the oh i love olaf in in d2 like uh just a just a a plus a plus goon yeah he was the goon of iceland and and he did a fantastic job and honestly i he was really good i don't know why i thought one of the other

characters was olaf but i'm an idiot well i mean he look i mean in d2 they have they bleached his hair so he looked more icelandic oh okay so he's uh he's rocking the bleach blonde hair in d2 they have they bleached his hair so he looked more icelandic oh okay so he's uh he's rocking the bleach blonde hair in d2 whereas here it's it's like i think it's black or dark brown at the very least um yeah but yeah he he uh crushes it in this he plays like a little cashier the money guy and then yeah raising these these goddamn dogs dude so poor dogs i have the did you hear him too he's like i want him to go down with meat and his with the taste of meat in his mouth i was like yeah because he gets uh is it is it out it's uh ali right ali ali's character sam ali uh or not ali sorry alia shot cat from arrested development her character sam she gets a they have the shotgun

in one of the scenes and they she gets a shot off and hits hits the dog to slow it down a little and then that's when they give the shot of the dog meth and uh olaf goes he says to your line here he's like if he's gonna die hopefully he can die with a little meat in his teeth, which was very, very upsetting to hear. Yeah, I didn't. I don't like that too much. I, for some reason, I thought it was, you know, when at the very end of the movie where the two guys are left to go finish them off and the last one standing that the girl jumps down and shoots through the neck. Yeah. For some reason

i thought that was him i don't know why yeah i don't know anyways um should we do like do to do a super quick synopsis or should we just kind of talk through how the movie unfolds because it it's the way it started off brandon with just their van in the middle of the field and and i was and like the car's still going and then just wake i was like what is happening here like it was that was uh what was the weirdest way to start the movie ever then they go siphon gas yeah i i read that that was that the little overhead uh corn scene was one of the most expensive scenes in the movie because in order to pull it off they had to buy all of that corn that they ruined around it oh my god that's amazing and it was

like it didn't make any like it like well they they were they're they're so okay okay do a quick synopsis okay so the the gist of the movie is you have a punk we got a four-piece punk rock band right uh with pat who's played by anton yelchin sam who's played by uh r.i.p sam who's played by alia shotkat from arrested development yeah um we have reese the drummer who's played by joe joe cole um who's like a british actor he's in a bunch of stuff he's in um he's uh he plays what's he's in peaky blinders i'm trying to remember what um what character he is john he's in um he's uh he plays what's he's in peaky blinders i'm trying to remember what what character he is john he's john john and peaky blinders he's in black mirror too yeah and then uh he's a great great great actor his uh you can tell his uh his british action act his british accent kind of sneaks through a couple a couple times during the movie

um and then uh the lead singer is his his death scene though yeah that was that was that was like the that was intense i i yelled a little bit when it happened and i think i i think i told you off air i had to rewind it because it happened so fast and And I was already, I was, I was so shooketh by the pit bull tearing the lead singer's throat into shreds and them actually showing the pit bull gnawing into his jugular. dude just jumps out the window and in a matter of a half a second you just hear and then he gets like pulled off because he's stabbing him like 10 times like save your strength yeah damn it patrick or whoever said it i thought it was maybe patrick stewart oh my god that death was the one that like well no actually the death that surprised me the most was um sam the girl from arrested development because i thought there was absolutely no fucking way after we just saw a throat thrashing mauling dog eating a person i thought there was no way we didn't get

another one second person from the band getting eaten by a different pitbull oh my god i think that might have been fucked me up i think it might have been the same one i think it was the same pitbull i think that one pitbull got both of them he had he had two but i think he only let one he was only letting one of them go at a time my god it was that was that was i couldn't believe it i couldn't believe it yeah the the dog the dog deaths were very visceral and and upsetting but the yeah reese's death i i agree was probably the most like uneasy feeling because it was so quick and sloppy and yeah like real like it was just like ew yeah like that's what that's what happens right like that's what happens in war that's it's not some glorious thing it's you picking the wrong

fucking window and the person being right there to just stab you to death before you even realize you're being stabbed to death yeah and that was just terrifying anyways my god and just brandon this movie all right sorry i didn't mean to interrupt your keep keep going i didn't mean to interrupt brandon i just i have to say it because like it just it's the thing that i think about the most at this movie i think the dog the dog's eating the two people and how the fuck like the fact that the girl didn't get shot like i thought for sure she was just gonna get shot but no they had to do round two with the dog. Like she could have just gotten shot when they shot at them and missed

everybody. No, no, no, no, no. You're missing it. You're missing a key,

a key plot point in the movie is they were trying their hardest not to shoot the band. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

Because they did, they would have had to dig the bullets out of the bodies. The whole, the whole point of going to get the dogs and bring them there is so they were going to stage it to look like they had broken into Clark's property to steal gas, but they got attacked by the dogs. That was the whole coverup plan. So they were like,

they were like, don't fucking shoot them. Keep going back to the dogs. Dogs don't have guns. Don't shoot them guys yeah yeah all right keep going back to the synopsis i'm sorry i didn't mean to cut you off and jump in but no no no no worries uh so but the the last uh the fourth member the singer is played by callum turner and again another british actor um he's in uh he's done a bunch of stuff too but he's

in the uh have you seen the i forget what it's called what's it matt masters of stuff too, but he's in the... Have you seen the... I forget what it's called. What's it? Masters of the Air? It's a new Apple TV show with the dude who played Elvis. Him and the dude who played Elvis are like the two main characters. Oh, he's in the Fantastic Beasts movies. I was never a big fan of those, but I get the people that like them. So we have those those four uh four four members of the punk band they are from the the arlington dc area they're traveling through oregon right now siphoning gas and then they they do an interview

for like a college radio station and the dude gets um uh a show at uh and he like he like built it up he like lied to him and he was like oh i got this great show for you guys and a show, and he built it up. He lied to them, and he was like, oh, I got this great show for you guys. And then they came, and he was like, actually, you guys are playing in a Mexican restaurant. And so they're all fucking pissed because they don't have any money to get back home. They don't have any gas money. So then he brings up – he has a cousin in, they'll, they'll come let you play. They'll get you some gas money. You can get home.

And he's like very vague about it. He's like, they're very, they're very, I think he calls them alt-right. Like it's a very weird club. Alt-right. Whatever you do, don't talk politics. Yep. That was, that was like, just don't talk politics. Yeah.

And so then they, so they so they go uh they play the show for it it's a full-fledged like white power neo-nazi bar skinheads everywhere very dicey situation but they they play the show and then on the their first song can you believe they played the um that one song about neo-nazis die yeah they I love that so so they're getting ready to play for the they pull up they realize it's a fucking skidhead like full-on neo-nazi Club and so Pat like when they're in the green room and they're getting ready to play pack those you guys I have a terrible idea and he's right terrible idea but so they get out in the first song they play is a cover of

Dead Kennedys, which is I forget the actual name of the song, but it's Nazis Fuck Off, essentially. I think I wrote it down. What's the name of the fucking song? Nazi Punks is the name of the song. Nazi Punks. Yeah, which is basically just

a Dead Kennedys song that the chorus is uh fuck off nazis yeah great it's a great song great message but maybe not not the place to play it yeah i i just wouldn't have because they started they started throwing uh the crowd starts throwing beer cans and shit and then the the dude the singer from the the headliner band like like spits on them and yeah all that kind of stuff but so all that happens and then so essentially what happens is they play their set um and they try to go back to the green room to get all their stuff and leave and all of their stuff has been moved out of the green room into the hallway and the the the

bouncers and all the the crew are trying to get them out of the club as fast as possible come on let's go let's go let's go yeah and then uh sam elise character realizes she left her phone in the green room so pat goes back um just to grab it real quick and when he goes back in he finds that somebody's been murdered in the green room yep worm stabbed that uh what's her the the girl in the head it was either emily was it emily amber is the the one who's played by imogene poots yeah that's it and then emily emily was the one um i'm so sorry. I love Imogene Poots. Great name. It's a great name.

The boys from Adventure Time would lose their shit if they heard Imogene Poots. Finn and Jake. Oh, my God. They go in there. They find out that Worm, who's I think he's the singer. I don't know. Worm, he's in the headliner band yeah cow catcher um he has killed his his girlfriend stabbed her in the head well because he we find out later that it's because he found out her and that one dude were gonna run away well he didn't find out they were gonna run she was gonna run away with him uh because

amber amber tells us a little bit later that he stabbed her because she just said i'm breaking up with you and i'm leaving yeah that's right that's right yeah and then later on they go through daniel who's the the cousin of the the radio guy um they go through his car and they find all of emily's stuff and they're like oh this is this is why yeah this fucking traitor yeah and and patrick stewart's like they did he did us a worm did us a favor in the end yeah because the the the when he gets in pat so patrick stewart is the owner of the bar and so they he he gets called in um after the murder um to kind of come and help clean up the thing and he had for the first good there's a good like uh five minute scene where he's um complaining about worm god damn it worm fucking selfish act killing people yeah son of a bitch. Idiot.

Yeah. He does kill Worm though. Do you notice that? Did you pick up on that? Oh yeah, from the he gave him a bad batch. Bad batch of the heroin. Yep, saw that. He calls it a different thing.

Yeah, we're not going to say. I'm not going to say. We're not going to go'm not gonna say yeah we're not gonna we're not gonna go there but yeah he um gave him a bad batch and no worm bit the dust everyone dies in the end right except for old pat and what's your face spoiler alert patent ambassador yeah um sorry does everybody know um what's uh what's his name gabe he survives remember they let him go and they're like hey go call the cops and he does yeah he does good little you know last second redemption for gabe don't think it makes up for any of this but you know wasn't a dick the the whole way through yeah that's true i did you

like how they um we we this is going back a little bit but like uh tad their booker paid them in like beans and rice for or for the show that they played at the restaurant yeah that's how they got paid uh was was meals um at the mexican restaurant that they played at that's why they got paid was meals at the Mexican restaurant that they played at. That's why they were so fucking pissed. They were like, we don't. Yeah. And that's why he's like, all right, I'll get you this show for $350. And they're like, all right, we can get there on the tank we have and we'll have to siphon our way home.

Yeah. Them siphoning gas was pretty crazy. That was crazy, yeah. I loved that because that's what Patrick Stewart, Darcy is his character's name. Yeah, when he finds that stuff, he gets excited. That's part of their cover-up plan is that they're sneaking onto the Clark's property to siphon gas. And I love how at the end when they get to when Pat and Amber get get to him um and they see that he's like syphing gas and pat like rips it out and he goes i forget exactly what he says but he's basically like that's not how you fucking do it yeah oh like because how he he put the towel in was wrong yeah

um that was that was good oh you know what i forgot too um that was really like it was like a really like where things started to kind of like spiral and where it would have spiraled in real life is where uh pat calls 9-1-1 like while he's in the room like he just instantly calls 9-1-1 and 9-1-1 calls him back and he's like oh like they don't try to play it off like it was nothing they have the twins like the one twin stabbed the other twin yeah did you that i wrote this was another quote i wrote down i've heard exactly where in the conversation it happens but um gabe's like getting them so he's giving them the money they're gonna stab each other and he's like he says something a lot of giving them the money. They're going to stab each other.

And he's like, he says something along the lines of money back. Doesn't he at the end? Yeah. But before they stab each other, he's, he says something along the lines like, okay,

you guys good. You guys ready. And one of the fucking twins goes, yeah, it wouldn't be the first time. And then Olaf, the is like, yeah,

the blade is X size. So it won't be a felony you'll just do some quick time yeah it's a it's a short it's the blade is is shorter than the whatever the law yeah the felony law would be um but yeah then yeah he does he does take the money back he goes it's just it's just fucking vouchers and shit we'll hold it for you yeah yeah because he's going to jail anyways oh so yeah what they would i think it would all got confiscated right yeah yeah that's what he said that's how he took it back i think um yeah no that was a that was a heads-up move by the by the the fucking nazis to uh you know to not not cause a scene with the cops to kind of get him here get him out

yeah that's they were just like like they had to do something right they couldn't just say nothing happened because then they would start investigating right i also oh dude it was also the worm but when he was like when he was like what was that what was that song you were playing and then like toxic revolution he looks and he's like that's was that? What was that song you were playing? And then like Toxic Revolution. And he looks at me and he's like, that's what I did her to. Or when he like pulls the fucking. And when he pulls the. Like when he's dragging her head with the knife.

Brandon. That's when I. That's when I. That was the moment I knew. I was like, oh, God, this is going to be fucking unnerving. Yeah. Dragging her. Oh, God.

Yeah. Dragging her body by the knife. That was, and then it rips uses the momentum and the weight to tear it out. And he's like, Oh, there it is. Cause they said she,

how do we know she's not dead? There's not that much blood. What a fucking moron. My God. There's a fucking thing sticking out of her temple. She could still, she could still she could she could still be breathing you know brandon come on you could have okay it takes it takes a while it takes a while for you to bleed out dude i i know but like she had an object pointed into her

head wait oh yeah she's for all intents and purposes she's dead she still could have been breathing though yeah i guess i don't know fine fine and and you know what that attitude is exactly why that fucking knife got dragged out of her head well that i'm just that's the that's the distinction between attempted murder and murder right if she's still breathing whatever Brandon I'm just saying anyways

that was just that was yeah that was just unsettling and then the whole interaction with what is his name Big John Big Justin yeah Big Justin that was

that was so fucking intense too like and like how he was like broke his arm and then how he was choking him out and then the girl oh my god the way she takes all the box she took the and they showed the fucking like

skin opening up. It was unbelievably gross. It was so terrible. The gutting scene. The dragging the head. And then the dog. The first dog scene. The first dog. when he gets Reese

and is just eating his face and neck when Sam gets got by the dog they don't really show too much of that yeah it's like the Game of Thrones when what's his face but then with Game of Thrones you hated the character so much that you were kind of like he kind of got his comeuppance

for what he did for Sansa but this you're like yeah these ones yeah with the priest didn't do anything no no yeah yeah that was the other thing so yeah no i'll react fast enough and that happens right like he kind of panicked in the moment and he didn't get a shot or like a swat or anything off of this object but i wanted to point out because with those those three scenes were real real intense um trigger warning on those for sure yeah but other than those three scenes i thought i i thought they did a very good job of of not lingering and not you know playing up the gore so much the death scenes like reese's the death scenes are

fairly quick or not reese tiger sorry tiger gets eaten by the dog tiger is the dog reese tiger gets eaten by oh my god dude yeah but reese yeah it was just uh they didn't linger on the gore you're right they do a good job of quick death scenes they don't really fetishize all the blood and all that like some of these other horror movies do which i can't do i can't do the like the saws and all those kind of type of movies i can't do that kind of gore it's too much this was like just even this was like a little too much for me but it was like it didn't cross the line completely where i was out you know i, I was able to stomach a little bit of it. Sometimes I just like think to myself though, it's like,

man, someone just like sitting at home and they wrote all this stuff down and they're like, this, this would make a fantastic movie. And I just, I don't know, man,

I don't get it. I get all the nice sci-fi things but i don't i i just i don't quite understand the murdery scary horrifying things and how it just but you know let's just it's just me yeah another another thing that they they do that um you brought up um that with game of thrones you hate the characters and so when die, it's at least a little bit satisfying. These, outside of the Nazi deaths, obviously, with the four band members, they do, like most horror movies, even with the good guys or the group you're going, they always try to slip in a little like morality.

They give you a reason why these people should die whereas in this movie they didn't really they didn't make anybody out to be a to be a bad person other than you know just being weird you know a weird punk band you know there's no like you know like with most horror movies it's like you know it's always like the the the kids who are having sex and doing drugs get killed. Yeah. It's like they were just siphoning gas to get by. They're just a punk band trying to.

I guess that wasn't a cool thing. But yeah. But they're just a punk band trying to make it. Like that was it. They're just grimy punk band. Yeah. And so when they get killed, it is a legit like bummer. Like damn.

There's no like, there's zero satisfaction to it and you know and you kind of and it's like gee it's like it's like you know tiger didn't have to go out like that oh you know he dude just like the misfits man you know that was it i was i was like what was so wrong with that what was so wrong with like just like the misfits right ain't nothing wrong with that didn't need to get his fucking whole face and throat eaten by a dog i just can't believe it brandon and i just i i know we already talked about it but i just have to say it again i can't believe sam got the same thing i just i can't believe it when that dog got up on her i was like yeah it's just oh my god and then and then after that that's when you do a little bit of the heroin right like that's when you after after sam gets eaten and you go back in you're like all right we're definitely dead

i'm just gonna try a little oh dude yeah i did i don't know i don't know if i'd try heroin i don't know i don't know what i legit i just good i don't know what i would do oh yeah i legit don't know what i do i i know for sure like often myself would have crossed my mind at least a couple times like especially when you still had the gun when i said yeah just like i mean i might as yeah i might as well go out on my terms that's you know yeah and dude i honestly like when they did that last stand and they charged out and started shooting and all the skinheads were shooting back at them i would have been so furious like just like guys couldn't i just came charging out shooting at you and you couldn't just get me one in the chest or

head to just get this shit over with you had to fucking miss me and send me back into this house of horrors god damn it like what's that's i feel like go to gentle lectures it's like you fucking missed everybody yeah well i mean they were they were not trying to hit the band as as we pointed out that's right that's right but still but if i'm patrick stewart at the end was like this one might have to get messy but like keep he told them to keep the bullets close together because you're gonna be the one digging them out oh you're talking about the last scene right yeah okay yeah yeah yeah that's the last scene that's when he's like fuck it just kill him yeah just yeah yeah and that's why that's where

i'm like dude i'm so mad at them for missing me if i'm pat dude damn it well and especially if you uh if i'm emily right because she gets if i'm emily because she's her leg eaten uh well she gets her leg eaten and shot too right i think she originally gets i think one leg gets attacked by the dog and then when all when they're with alia and they go out there with sam and they go out there uh with the shotgun she gets hit again too right yeah with a bullet and so but in the leg and at that point i'm like mother like you can shoot me shoot me in the fucking head why are you aiming for my legs for yeah oh my god yeah because that's what he had to bandage it up when they went back uh it just uh yeah i mean it was smart that they did the mic on the speaker for the feedback to

it tipped over but then pat did it even more in the dog ran away so it didn't completely completely eat her oh and the bitch i was actually so freaking surprised that um daniel the betrayer like the guy that was gonna run away with emily how fast he went out like he was just turned the corner and the bartender got him with the shotgun to the face and that was it for daniel like he would just did you hear what the bartender said afterwards too i can't remember he says too? I can't remember. He says, too slow. Yeah, that's exactly. He's like, too slow. Oh, my God.

Yeah. That bartender, he went out a rough way, too. He got the machete. Oh, yeah, he got a machete to the neck. Yeah, that was rough. That was rough. Speaking of the machete, did you catch the, I don't know if you would catch this reference. Most true punk fans catch this right away, though. You see the poster of the movie, like the DVD cover, the poster cover, right?

Of Machete? Well, no, of Green Room. Oh. It's got Pat with the machete, and he's doing like a crazy pose. He's doing the pose from the London Callingon calling album cover from the clash oh that's a little punk reference for you well i mean i didn't get it but i appreciate it that's because you're a you're a ska kid not a punk kid yeah that makes that makes sense that makes sense you're more of a more of a sky guy you know they would uh they would have made a couple uh real big fish references you would have got this oh that would have been all the way in

well don't forget less than jake too there are a ton of great little punk references uh they do the cover of the dead kennedys the soundtrack for this is fucking amazing i figured you would this this music was all branded all the time oh dude as a as a shitty little punk kid growing up this movie like uh all the music i was like i got this dude this is right up my alley the uh i i oh speaking of which sorry sorry to cut you off um fun fact um all of the actors are actually playing the instruments they actually played those songs oh really yeah oh that's pretty cool yeah anton and um alia already knew how to play um the guitar and the bass whichever ones they

were playing i forget which one was which but um joe joe cole the guy who played reese he learned how to play the drums specifically for this movie um that's really cool do you want to hear something fun that um i just read right now at this moment in time love to sir patrick stewart forgot that he was knighted Sir Patrick Stewart when he finished reading the script he was so terrified that he immediately locked up his house turned on the security system and poured himself a scotch and he was like all right I actually think I'm gonna do this because he was like so like it was so unnerving to him just to read through the plot well um he said a a role a character that horrifying would be an incredible challenge and make for a compelling movie because he found darcy so scary i said i think he because i saw that same quote and i inferred from that it could be wrong but

i inferred from that that he specifically picked to play darcy. Like they, they just sent him the script and he was like, I'm playing this guy. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't think, yeah, that's what I inferred from it.

I could be wrong, but yeah. Either way it's. Yeah, it was, he did a, he did a fan fantastic job in this all the way, but I was really surprised that there were survivors.

I, like, at the halfway point, I was like, there's no way anyone's making out of this. Like, I thought. I figured everybody was going to die, too. Yeah. I figured if anyone, like, stood, it would be, like, Patrick Stewart. But, like, he would be, be like dying as he, you know, well, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah. I figured, yeah, I figured every, I was waiting. So, so the,

the thing that like I was, was, um, waiting for that never happened was for Gabe. I figured at some point during the movie that the, the Nazis were going to turn on gabe and they were just going to off him real quick i was waiting i was waiting for that double cross to happen and it didn't same i was surprised that he just got left to go through the woods and then call the cops that was

the most surprising thing i thought that he was either going to get killed caught i thought he was going to get caught in the crossfire somewhere yeah or when they let him go i thought he he was gonna get caught in the crossfire somewhere yeah or when they let him go i thought he he was he might go like get more people and then come back oh i didn't i he seemed like he had like a change of heart as all that was going down that he wasn't really liking what was what was happening yeah yeah yeah he definitely was cleaning up the bodies and stuff you know like he was just kind of over it i think yeah he was like, why am I doing this again? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Which you can't blame him. That would get old pretty quick. Yeah. Anyways, but yeah. So, cause like with the last stand, when they run out,

then they go back into the room and then they have one final last stand. And that's where the two guys go in there. They each have a gun and they, this was a genius plan. They talk about the paintball game and the girl hides underneath the cushions in the couch. And the other dude makes all kinds of noise downstairs as a distraction. And so she gets the dude upstairs, right? And then she very smartly uses her friend's body to drop down. That was clutch.

Oh, my. Genius. To take one of the bullets. Yeah. Yeah, she dangles her friend's body down to take one of his few remaining bullets. That's a rough look, though. Like, if you're Emily and you're in the afterlife and you're watching this and you're like really you just really like i'm glad i'm glad i just blew my leg the bottom of my leg off dude that's

i'm glad i can help but you know a little disrespectful here guys oh but then um she she gets the pistol while the dude is on top of Pat and shoots him through the neck and then through the head. She does like a crazy fucking execution style fucking shot. I thought it was very interesting that in the moment she knew to shoot

she remembered to shoot up. Wait, what? Like she walked up to him and she just shot him up through the head and through the neck or off to the up. Wait, what? Like, she walked up to him and she just shot him up through the head and through the neck or off to the side. You know. Someone inexperienced might shoot down on accident.

Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because she went through. If she walks up and just puts a bullet in the back of his head she's gonna accidentally kill pat um and most people have never heard she could potentially like right if the bullet goes through and so like i that's right like when you said execution style that was the first thing i thought of is like an executioner knows point that bad boy out yeah i get you now

yeah yeah she uh probably wasn't for her first time handling a gun yeah yeah anyway sorry i didn't mean although i read uh the thing i was like going through imdb with the goose and everything and one of them was um it was incredibly obvious in that scene that she was uh shooting blanks um because there was zero recoil she just went you know oh she's like yeah yeah no no she didn't act out the recoil you know rookie mistake you know she get a razzy for that yeah that's worth it and then um and then they how did they track down i can't remember because at this point i was just like oh Oh my God, this movie is just. What?

Sean, Sean, Luke Picard and his last Lieutenant get tracked down because they, they. How they got to the house. Yeah. How they got to the house. Cause first. Oh, that's right. Gabe told him where to go.

That's right. That's right. Cause, cause they captured Gabe and Gabe's like, if you let let me go you can go here i'll go call the cops like i'm done i deserve to go to jail he says something like that yeah he's like i'm i'm ready to go to jail or something like that and then they come across because he tells them about how they're setting up the crime scene and then that's where they shoot um is that where they or is that all at the house where they shoot um where they shoot olaf they shoot the other guy the crime scene is the house it's oh that's right because they were going to say that they broke into jean-luc picard's house

um or that house that was clark's i think it's clark's house because that's where the dogs are that's where all the signs are that That's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they're setting up the siphoning in the driveway, and they walk up and they kill the... There's one guy with Clark, and then there's another

guy that walks up with his face. With Patrick Stewart. Yeah, Patrick Stewart. And they're able to shoot them all Patrick starts walking away like a little Nazi punk yep they just take them all down but then

then they're just sitting there reflecting and that's when we see that that sweet poor sad dog just walk up and made its way all the way from the bar. Yeah. Made his way home and laid down with his owner.

We don't, we don't condone the owner, but we sure love the dog. I have in my notes. God. And I wrote it specifically when he came walking back and laid his little head down. I wrote, God damn. I love this dog. Yeah. Loyal. Yeah yeah poor little guy the most important thing because they keep asking throughout the thing and i think it's really fun before they all die start dying

they give each other their real desert island bands and like the one who's prince and madonna and stuff like that do you have have a Desert Island band, Brandon? I don't know if I have one. It changed. I mean, now, like if someone asked me now, I would probably say Rush just because you could listen to so much stuff and it would be wonderful. Desert Island.

I have a band that, like, if I could only listen to one band the rest of my life, I have an answer for that. But it would be a different answer if you're that's a real heavy, depressing emo band. If I'm stranded on a desert island, I need something a little more uplifting, right? Whereas if I'm living my normal everyday life, but I can only listen to one thing, I would choose that. But if I'm on a desert island, I got to raise my spirits. I got to keep the hope up. So I would choose something a little more cheery for a desert island. Yeah.

See, and that's why I say Rush for my desert island, man. Rush is a good one. Because you have so many albums. You have so much music. It's just you could do so much with it, right? That's a good portfolio to really sink your teeth into. And everybody loves tom sawyer like especially the did you have you ever seen the real where rush does and we might have talked about this so i apologize to the listeners but um where rush does

south park as the opener for tom tom sawyer and it's just fucking cartman and then it actually is like bow and it's rush right oh my god fantastic stuff russia's a good one i like the prince answer that reese had that's a good one uh queen i'm going queen i think oh brandon okay yeah i think i think we we mentioned this talked about that yeah that's d2 we're going all the way back yeah D2 I went through a massive Queen phase because of D2 Queen's Desert Island band for sure that's a good one

that's a good callback to when we were talking about all that great Queen stuff towards the end of D2 I love that part, I used to just rewind and watch the end with them singing and then I would rewind it to just rewind and watch the end. I would watch the end with them singing. Yeah, and then I would rewind it all the way and watch the movie.

Weird, weird kid Heath quirks. All right, cool. So, yeah, but that's how the movie ends is just because they go back, right? I think it ends, they're talking, and she kind of basically gives him her desert island band, and then the dog sits on Clark, and then it's over.

And it's just... And then you sit there and you're like, what in the actual fuck? He doesn't give her his desert island band. Oh yeah, because he never... She gives him hers. Well, earlier in the movie.

But at the end of the movie, he goes... They're sitting there. And he turns to her and he goes, Do you want to know what my Desert Island band is? And she goes, Nobody gives a shit. That's right. That's right.

That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Cause he couldn't decide. He was the only one that could never decide. Yeah. He didn't give an answer. Um, I did like, so when they're doing to go back to the beginning, when they're doing

the interview with the, the dude, uh, Tad, right. Tad. Yeah. Tad. They're doing the interview with Tad. He's asking them to does an island band. And for the interview, they all give like, you know, like, you know, they're, they're doing the interview with tad he's asking them there does an island band and for the interview they all give like you know like you know they're they're they're trying to keep up their punk appearance so they're all naming like punk bands and and like that um and then

only when they start dying do they start giving the you know the real ones the prince and uh but that interview was was interesting because i liked how they talked about and it was a good um like setup another thing i loved about this movie is there's they don't over explain anything yeah like every everything's very simple and easy to follow if you're kind of paying attention um but you know it's not overly in your face explained to you they'll do something in one scene and then two scenes later you're like oh okay

that's A and B right there you were very easily able to put all the pieces together without them needing to do the weird movie explanation cut scenes and things like that it's just like you're like yep okay that makes sense and yeah okay like one of them is when like when they first get to the the skinhead bar and um was it tiger just starts talking about emily

like the emily and daniel going over the tabs yeah and daniel freaks out and is like when that first happened i was like that was weird what the is going on there yeah and then then they open the trunk and you're like oh they're running away together and you're like boom a to b okay got that yeah um and the same thing with the the interview um because they start talking about um how they're they don't they have zero social media presence yeah there's nothing online about them they you know and and um pat gives this like really like you know like you know you know punk poetic you know pompous answer where he's like music is supposed to be felt in the moment yeah

you can't replicate how you feel at the concert online and then like after the once once everything kicks off and patrick stewart's like rummaging through his rummaging through their van you realize oh shit they don't have nobody knows they're there because they're not on social media the only person who does is tad and they're probably gonna fucking kill tad they didn't know which was that was i figured i figured that was coming to you is they were gonna send somebody to go kill tad same um yeah yeah so i i thought that was they they did a very brilliant job of of giving you all of the the dots to connect but not like hitting you over the head with it and being like hey dumb hey dummy this is what's going on yeah idiot that doesn't understand movies yeah um cool i did enjoy that the the that um you know pretentious answers he gave those is uh it was pretty it was pretty good oh my god i

i was like you know eye roll so many people like that too oh yeah so many people like that um all right cool do you do you want to should we do cakey ratings yeah give me your go through your cakey rating you think it through this movie is something that i would never actively pursue on my own like if if someone like moving forward brandon if someone was like moving forward, Brandon, if someone was like, Hey Heath, I, you should watch this really cool movie. I just watched. It's kind of like the green room. I would instantly say, you know, I, I think I'm okay. I think, I think unless we need to watch it for the podcast, I think I'm okay. So this is, this is not a movie I would actively pursue.

I text you as I was watching this at the beginning. This isn't too bad. I think I'm kind of into it because it was like it did such a good job of like getting you to buy into the intensity because at first you're like, what the fuck is going on? Like, OK. And then like once they meet with Tad and then he gives him like, oh, it's my buddy's like thing. And you start to realize it's like, OK, this is where it's about to start going real south.

Like it just felt so real. If it would have gored any more than it did, I would have had to turn it off. The end with the dog laying on the owner, I thought like a a great it was a great ending i had to hold myself back from crying it was such a good ending like because it like all of a sudden you're like wait like what why do i feel like you know like some empathy and sadness because you just feel so incredibly bad for the dog yeah you know it's just it was such a weird juxtaposition as to the absolute terror and anxiety the inducing like moments like from him getting hacked up so i liked it so much more and like as like you know i keep talking about i think i kind of like the

movie but so i'm out of five cakeys i'm gonna give it two and a half cakes because two and a half because i was in it like i i was in it the whole time like it it there was like i had to do a little bit of scrolling just towards the end just because i was like i gotta lower this bread pressure just a tiny bit here before we start getting to the end you know so i just check some scores and stuff so i'm gonna give it two and a half cakes because like it was it was it was kind of good like it it just i don't know it i wouldn't encourage people to go watch it i would never watch it again i would not really want to watch anything like it but you know when you compare it to some of the other

movies that we've watched like i was actually like in this movie the whole time like it had me super bonded had me having weird dreams that night like that's how you know it's a good movie right like sticks into your brain and stuff so anyways that's my i guess i'm giving it two and a half cakes because i liked it more than i thought i would right down right down the middle okay right down the middle solid um i agree with you 100 it was i i loved this movie um but i i will never go back and watch this again just because it was so high stress panic inducing i was i had a legit panic attack the entire time through yeah i had to i had to watch it at my standing desk so i could pace and take notes like i was up just i yelled multiple times kelly came down kelly had to come down from our upstairs and say

hey is everything good here and i was like get out of the room you don't want to see this like when because i when he went out of the room you don't want to see this like when because i when he went out of the window and started just getting stabbed i went oh my god because i couldn't fucking believe he just started he was just on him he was just on him in a half a second anyway sorry keep going you picked the wrong window no i i didn't i didn't i didn't scream but i definitely there were definitely multiple times during the movie where i would like i like audibly was like oh god and like would you know turn away for a second like when she when she when she gutted big uh big justin or whatever like i was

like oh my god i gotta fucking gotta turn away here yeah that was that was rough that was rough um but i i i completely agree it was it was it i loved this movie if it was any gorier i would have had to i would have probably tapped out i don't know if i would have done it um but that being said i think it did a fantastic job of keeping that to a minimum not fetishizing the the blood and guts yeah um the pacing was great like i said i had a panic attack legitimately from start to finish yeah um yeah it was very well put together i love this movie i just because it was so because it was so much of a psychological thriller like high blood pressure you know experience for me i will not watch it again i'm not gonna go yeah this is not there's there's there's zero percentage of rewatchableness yeah i just made i think i i brought this up to

you i'll offer but it when you finish the movie and it says oh hey here's some stuff you might like as well one of the things it suggested was the movie tusk which is another one of those movies where it was it was from start to finish panic inducing terrifying and almost too gross um but still a great movie i've only seen it one time i will never ever watch it again i don't tell people to watch it i go i i always preface it will with um if you go Tusk, it will change you as a person. You will be a different person after you've watched it. This is kind of one of those movies where afterwards I felt different. I think I would recommend a watch of this.

If it's somebody like you, Ethan, who like doesn't even approach these those types of movies probably wouldn't recommend it but if you you enjoy thrillers or horror movies or anything like that definitely give it at least one watch because it's a it's a fantastic movie in that regard but yeah rewatchability i'm not gonna put myself through that kind of stress again. But that being said, I loved the movie. I thought it was fantastically acted. Everybody fucking crushed it. The screenplay was fantastic.

I love those dogs so goddamn much. I'm going to give it a 3.9, though. Wow. yeah i'm gonna give it a a 3.9 though wow i mean this this movie is so up your alley it's not even funny like this is a brandon it is it is it's a this is a brandon movie this is like newsies was a heath movie green room is a brandon movie and nothing could explain our personalities more yeah that's a spot on take for sure yeah um yeah because i i loved it yeah but i'm definitely not gonna not gonna watch it again it's a one-time thing um i thought it was fucking though shit well the one another thing i want to another thing i want to point out we mentioned how the acting was great i thought fucking kai uh ola the guy who plays olaf kyle lennox he was amazing in this movie he

made me hate him just like he in with d2 i mean he made me hate him instantly right away i was like this guy yeah um but now he was a great he's a fantastic actor i need to look up more kate lennox movies now i gotta i gotta find some more okay he's in a bunch of um um um tv shows i'm trying to remember in a bunch of other stuff that looked pretty solid um that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't like this scary you know he looked did you see the the one factual error goof because i brought this up at the beginning the way that they show because like it looks like they almost cut his hand off at the beginning the way that they show because like it looks like they almost cut his hand off at the beginning and the way that that was

shown he would have bled out I thought he was going to bleed I thought he was going to bleed out I really did the duct tape did though the blood is like pouring around and outside of that duct tape it's not like super glue

it's duct tape though it's not like super glue. It's duct tape, though. It fixes everything. Oh, my God. Okay. You're right. It's the universal tape. thanks for listening everyone please remember to follow and like us on instagram at the cake eaters pod on twitter at the cake eat. Also reach out to us via email thecakeeaterspod at gmail.com or visit our website thecakeeaterspod.com.