The Cake Eaters - 93. Miracle

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Heath & Brandon delve into the Great American Story on Ice, Miracle. The boys talk about their love for America, the drug scenes in their high schools, how much of a badass Kurt Russell is, the connection this movie has with the Ducks and Bring It On, Jimmy Carter catching strays, and of course the great Herb Brooks. Follow us on Instagram @thecakeeaterspod Email us at [e-mail]

It's not worth winning if you can't win! Yeah! Great moments are born from great opportunity. And that's what you have here tonight, boys. That's what you've earned here tonight. One game. If we played them ten times, they might win nine. But not this game. Not tonight.

Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them and we shut them down because we can. Tonight, we are the greatest hockey team in the world. You were born to be hockey players, every one of you, and you were meant to be here tonight. This is your time. Their time is done. It's over. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team the soviets have screw them this is your time now go out there and take it you got so angry there at the end he's he was much more he was much more uh a fucking herb he was much more uh calm and and delivered in the movie. Oh, man, I was getting fired up.

Dude, I imagine actual Herb was probably screaming that at him. 1000%. There's no way he's stoic in that moment. Come on. So this is the Cakey Dish podcast, everybody. We're talking about Miracle since we're post-olympics here talking do you believe in miracles yes which um has a fun little connection heath um to the mighty ducks universe um do you happen to know what it is i think i told you this but i don't

know if you remember uh yeah it's the guy from the iceland team then the goal team The goalie. The goalie. I thought it was Sanderson. It was the goalie from the Iceland team. Sanderson was Green Room. That's right. That makes a lot more sense.

What character was he again? When I was watching the movie i kept forgetting who i was looking for so in d2 we have the iceland goalie wessel um you see his his last name on the the jersey wessel he's uncredited in d2 um so like if you scroll through the credits he's not listed there but imdb has uh nathan west as the guy who plays iceland's goalie wessel in d2 nathan west is rob mcclanahan in in this one do you remember which one he is he's the one um i mean he's one of the main the main ones um i'm trying to think the best way to to describe him he's the one yeah yeah he's the one who gets injured and then herb calls him a pussy pretty much yeah oh no no i i pulled

up that from minnesota he's from minnesota too um and he's the one that the one dude tries to go beat up right at the very beginning yeah he takes the cheap shot on you yeah yeah okay no yeah but but do you do you want to know what else uh nathan weston because he's got uh quite the uh well i shouldn't say quite the imdb rap sheet he's got one other really cool imdb credit oh i actually just pulled it up my god do you want to do the reveal there's two pretty good ones i said that i saw the second one now but the second one i don't i don't know how much the the first the first one he's a heavy player in though bring it on yeah he plays he plays yawn and bring it on which is like the the um the main male cheerleader on

the team yeah yeah um oh my god what? Birch. It's cold in here. There must be some toros in the atmosphere. I said, owie, owie, owie. Ice, ice. Right? Isn't that how it goes? That's exactly how it goes. Yeah, no.

There must be some bulls in the atmosphere, Heath. That's why it's so cold. Yeah, toros, right? Yeah. That's Spanish for bull oh that cheer always cracks me up though because they just it makes because they they they stole it from the um the clovers but even that just none of those chance make any sense on why it's cold did you know it doesn't have to be brandon we've talked about this before but with in regards to something else sometimes things don't have to make sense sometimes they just have to give you good vibes

it's like it's like there's this one spanish song that i listen to sometimes where it the end of it it literally makes no sense like it's like don't let the children brush their hair before bed and but it just sounds really cool in the chorus and what do you mean that doesn't make any sense it makes perfect fucking sense well it just it's a weird thing to say in a song like sometimes songs don't need to make sense they can just have vibes and this is vibes that's fair no bring it on is bring it on as all vibes what's the i've been uh i've been on because then they do the one where they're in the stands and they're like imitating it too i forget what that one is and like what's

that that's all right that's okay's let's get back to miracle sorry that was a good we might have to do bring it on later with uh with our boy nathan west in it oh my god yeah that's like that's that's one in the holster that's that was like kelly's favorite movie as a kid she would definitely watch that with me like one thousand percent that was one of my cousins that was that was their favorite movie like they were fucking obsessed with it so i watched that all the time oh my god it's it's it's pretty good to be fair oh it's a great it's a great movie the girls in my like in middle school when it came out the girls in my grade i think we watched it like six different like hangouts you know because that's what you do in Wayne America like everyone

would like take turns having people like 20 kids in someone's basement watching movies good old small town America it's beautiful you know what I used to do for fun in the city Heath drugs like a normal kid like a like a goddamn man heath

actually in nebraska wayne had a bad uh reputation when i was in high school that doesn't shock me but what was the drug what was the drug of choice for wayne weed oh wow let's figure something out well i mean come on it's nebraska wayne nebraska like that's a hard drug well yeah but i mean you're in the middle of nowhere that's like the prime meth banking country you know nobody when i was a kiddo meth wasn't super like prevalent meth actually isn't that too bad where i was although to be fair, there was a guy that was two years older than me that got arrested

because his meth lab out in the country blew up. But that happens. That happens a lot more in Missouri than it does in Nebraska. Nebraska doesn't make it to the distribution center because of the interstates. They've got the one going all the way down to Texas, and then they've got the one going coast to coast.

And so your interstate towns, it's more smuggling than creating, if that makes sense. We had Colorado. I think it's still a huge problem. But Eastern rural Colorado, especially when I was in like high school, like middle school and high school, it was like just a fucking epicenter of making meth. Yeah. I think it's still a pretty big problem out there. So like all of my like health like related classes or whatever in high school, like a big chunk of it was like don't do meth guys wait was it one of the all right then we got to get back to the movie but like wasn't

what was it green room when i asked you like like dude if you're you're about to die like aren't you just doing a little math oh if it's if it's there yeah dude it well number one you're gonna be jazzed up man you're gonna be ripping through some bullets like it's dude going back to the going back to the movie we just did if i'm american outlaws for people that didn't listen to that episode if i'm on meth and i'm running through green room if i get shot you know what i'm doing next is a sean michaels kick up is what anyways all right okay back to miracle usa okay so first of all this movie i forgot how good this movie is it's so good like it's so good like that's the first thing that i have to say is like when when i started watching it i was like cooking breakfast or something or like getting my coffee going and i literally just had water sitting and getting cold in the kettle

because i was just like forgot because i was so locked into this movie after like the first part oh my god like i forgot how good this movie was unlike the last movie we talked about american outlaws this was like two hours and 17 minutes did not feel i needed more did not feel it yeah did not feel that bad because you were just like oh fuck like let's go like i just i felt like a really shitty patriot after i watched this movie if I'm being honest. That was my second thought. My God, it was a great movie. Why did it make you feel like a shitty patriot? I don't know.

If anything, this song makes... This movie pumps me up, man. It makes me... I'm so proud to be in America where at least I used to be free when they do the uh you know i changed it up there they were you were never free we're a corporate oligarchy now brandon that's the fact it's always been that way nothing's

changed he's it's always been that way this is John Wayne. This is everything that the Cowboys fought for. Against. The Cowboys didn't fucking fight for anything. This is exactly what Jesse James is fighting against. Yeah. The fucking railroad tycoons. Let's get back to Miracle. Oh.

I forgot how good of a sports movie it was. And also, you know what happened though you know what happened i feel like do you remember the hype that like the hype train for this movie that disney put out in conjunction with espn like the fucking hype train for this movie was crazy when it was coming out and i think that plus like then watching it and like thinking it was really good 2004 right yes which i believe i believe that this came out like literally right before because oh was the 04 winter olympics i think it came out right before a winter olympic oh no oh two i'm remembering it wrong that's my bad bad. Never mind. Keep going. I thought I was going to give them more

even more marketing credit than they deserved, but never mind. I graduated high school in 2004. Fun fact. Interesting. 20 year reunion this year. But they the hype train. I didn't watch this movie for forever because

it just like I kind of got a little burnout out of it, you know like i just because i was all in too like that's the other thing like i was an espn like wake up extra early before school to make sure i got the full round of highlights like i didn't want to miss any so i would wake up extra early for it remember highlights i miss those oh my god dude i miss them all the time like i that's like that's like religious in watching yet like a full hour of highlights before school there's two huge things that have gone by the wayside that uh i am super nostalgic for and that's espn sports center actually playing highlights and then music videos on mtv i missed those same i like i used to

love waking up early on like the uh in the summer and mtv you could just pull it up and they remember remember they used to because they they used to do one vh1 was good but they mtv used to like later on after after trl kind of when they were moving away from the music video thing they had mtv two and three yeah mtv3 was literally just music videos 24 7 that was the best yeah there was a uh biker bar right by my house in houston that would always do music videos for all the music that they play in the bar that's a that's a great old bar thing yeah they don't do that anymore either do they no but i love that that bar did it they was um i forget what it was like one of the big biker gangs in houston that kind of ran that bar i probably shouldn't have gone to it but it was awesome it was safe yeah it was it was wildly safe like you know like if

nothing's gonna happen unless you make it happen exactly like if you go in there and act like an idiot that's that's on you but if you go in there and you spend money and you are fun and enjoy dancing with everyone with the music videos you don't have a damn thing to worry about worry about it's like saying something saying something we should we need to open a bar and just play music videos we should do that the cake you just bought the fanny pack bar fanny pack boys fanny pack boy bar you are right though the hype train for this movie was amazing it was crazy and it lived up to it are you okay I was I saw I remember seeing this in theaters I was all about this this movie was like prime in my

wheelhouse cuz I fucking love Kurt Russell Kurt Russell's one of my favorite actors of all time I will see anything Kurt Russell's and he's fucking fantastic and then I'm a sucker for hockey and I love the sports movies this was like the perfect storm for me I would at 2004 you said you were graduating high school i would have been sort of in ninth grade like this well what when what month did it come out do we know i don't know i was a senior and so february oh so february february oh four this would have been the end of eighth the end of eighth grade i would have been in the middle of basketball season my senior year

I would have been in the middle of 8th grade basketball season would have been tearing it up as the 6th man at Century Middle School did you see in the quote someone put crowd USA USA USA on the IMDB that's what they said that's an accurate accurate quote i you don't see anything weird about that being put as a quote for the movie for imdb it's a quote yes i know but it's so fucking dumb like it's you don't no one does all but it's so fucking dumb. Like, it's, you don't, no one does. All right, it's fine.

Let's keep moving on. Okay, so, wait, before, I got to sidetrack this one more time, because when we kick off and, like, they are getting ready to see who they're going to pick as a coach, right? And, like, who they want to do there. For anybody not familiar with Miracle, this is a retelling of the 1980 Winter Olympics when the USA won gold for the first time in I don't know, God knows how long. And they – it was – they beat the Soviet Union in the semifinals. And that was like the first time the Soviets it's prime cold war times.

And that was the first time the Soviet hockey team had lost in like decades, decades. Yeah. Cause they were just an unstoppable force. They had just come off of beating the NHL all-stars like, like 12 to one or some shit like that. I forget what the,

but yeah. Oh, that was, I forgot about that was i forgot about that part i forgot that they didn't beat their i like i knew it right but you always forget until like as it started happening i was like oh shit they're about to play the russians before they go to the finals i totally forgot and then in my head i was like i wonder if they'll show it in the movie i forgot if they showed it in the movie but they didn't anyways yeah and so so that like you can when you watch this movie you can tell um the uh d2 the d2 storyline takes a lot from yeah i mean this came out before this movie but it takes a lot from this

story because you have the you have the they they play they play before the final or whatever and they lose they get destroyed which is very similar to it. Yeah. D2 takes a lot of beats from what actually happened in the 1980s. You talked about it in the D2 thing when they start to say their names, right? Right. When they say – Oh, yeah.

The halftime speech is a direct ripoff of this thing, scene in this movie which is one of the you know that was a rumor that got started that isn't actually true the whole oh the whole name thing yeah yeah yeah who do you play for that whole thing but outside of that

another thing I want to point out before we kind of get started is this movie is highly regarded as one of the most accurate um like sports movies that like tells of a of an actual event it's highly regarded as one of the most accurate of those of that genre there i did a little bit of research and there's only there's really only two main things that i found that contradicts what actually happened one is that scene the with the norway yeah did they did they they but like did anyone ever say if they set it up like maybe it didn't happen with

the norway scene like that but he's still like when they first met each other that he made him do that sound off thing yeah yeah so so he he the the sound off thing where he asked him um that's something he actually they who they named and who they played for. That's something they actually did. And staying after the Norway game and making them run all those – Herbies is what they call them when they make them skate all the time. Oh, really? Yeah, because after Herb Brooks, they call them Herbies.

Oh. But that actually happened as well well that whole practice scene actually happened it just ends different it doesn't end with that like rousing thing i think it ends because i remember correctly i think it ends because um okay i don't have to look at it lock it up right like they they kept going after the lockup it It was – I forget how he actually stops it, but it wasn't as rousing as it is in the movie. But so that was the thing that's not completely accurate. And then the other thing that kept popping up when I was looking stuff up was all of the players complained that Herb was too nice in the movie, that he was not that nice in in real life which is funny because he's a fucking asshole in the movie yeah yeah the the think of let that settle in for a second that they

portrayed him as nice in the movie like that was the nicer version of him that's that's pretty wild that's that was that's that's not nice like if that is your nicest version that sure as shit is not nice the one thing before we really dig into i want to say i just wanted to um call out the fact that uh was it sean mccann i think he passed it i think he passed away but um the dude that is herb's like main guy like from like the front office he's in tommy boy like he's the front office guy in tommy boy oh the actor show yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah sean mccann okay yeah i thought you were i i off the top of my head, I couldn't remember if that was an actor name or a,

like a player name. That's the problem with these real life ones, man. The names I get confused, but yeah, Sean McCain, who plays Walter Bush, who was,

yeah, he was the kind of like the GM. Crushed it. Tommy boy. Yeah. There's so many good actors. I know in this movie. Patricia Clarkson, I'm a sucker for. I fucking love Patricia Clarkson.

She plays Herb's wife. Another fun fact about the movie, though, is a lot of the the the actors that play the hockey players are not were not like actors. They were hockey players that they turned into actors so like a lot of them will only have like other than nathan west but i mean i because nathan west was in d2 i assume he was a hockey player he's an actual hockey player um but like a lot of them especially like the like not the main guys you know like the uh the kind of like the ones that only have like one or two lines or stuff those are just hockey players that they turned into actors. And so a lot of them will only have

this will be their only IMDb credit. It's pretty wild. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Most of these guys do not have very many movie credits. A lot of them don't even have photos on IMDb. But yeah, so movie credits a lot of them don't even have photos on imdb but yeah so uh yeah we can get into this now um it's yeah fucking herb dude herbs the man um and i yeah that's the the i

saw that quote in like five or six different articles where the sub players were like yeah the dude was not that nice yeah and my god like i said if that is nice then yikes i don't want to know what mean is oh wait i got another thing so so in one of the articles that mentions that he's a fucking mean sob um uh the players mentioned uh that herb never went to a christmas party with the players like he does in the movie. And he never gave the players nicknames like he does in the movie too. So they didn't do those. And then they had to tone down his language to keep the PG rating. Damn. I mean, that makes sense though like a hard-ass 80s hockey coach like that he's not having a clean mouth no no there's yeah every

other every other word's a swear word yeah he's dropping f's all over the place yeah but kurt russell fucking crushes it um it's so good i fucking love kurt russell yeah um how do you feel about like what do you what would you consider like kurt russell's favorite role of yours like do you have my favorite that's a great fucking question because there's so many that he's in and some he's big some i don't know if i have like a favorite favorite you know this is up there miracles up there um trouble in little china or like escape from la escape from new york those are always really good Backdraft did you watch Backdraft That's a great one Oh yeah the

Fire movie right Him as Wyatt Earp in Tombstone That's great Oh yeah He did good as Star Lord's dad in Whatchamacallit guardians of the galaxy too he's great in the the fast and furious movies as mr nobody oh yeah i forgot he's in fact the fast and furious movies this is i would either say um

backdraft or this or this one as my favorite of his roles. Um, big trouble in little China's great though. Like you mentioned, escape from LA, um, tombstone, Tango and cash.

Um, what else? What else is the, the thing? Did you ever watch? That's a great one. No. Oh my God,

dude. We forgot my favorite one stargate oh stargate's good stargate is so good i loved stargate as a kid like fucking i was eight years old and i was all in on stargate my toys oh you know what's uh oh yeah you're right tombstone his fucking role in tombstone is so good. You know what's a sneaky good one? What's that? Fox and the Hound. He does the voice of Copper. Oh, dude.

I don't watch Fox and the Hound. Dude, it's so sad. I gotta have boxes of tissues if I'm gonna watch that. I watched Homeward Bound. The first one for the first time in forever. I thought you were gonna say the first time in forever. Oh my God, Brandon.

I thought you were going to say the first time at all. Oh, no, no. I loved that movie as a kid, but I haven't watched it in like five or ten years and when Shadow was struggling to get... Oh my God, I was a mess at the end of that movie. I was like, how is this a kid's movie, dude?

What is wrong with people? Sorry, last amazing a mess at the end of that movie i was like how is this a kid's movie dude like what is what is wrong with people sorry last amazing kurt russell movie that is an underrated role in his sky high sky high is good sky high is so good he's the commander go on all right all right let's get back kurt russell aside it's anyways this i mean this is just fantastic they did such a good job too of like the build right like i feel like the build was the best part of the movie from the stress that you felt when they were just trying to even bring in the coach and like what's it you know the guy that we were just talking about from tommy boy what's his name in the movie walter bush is like no we should do herb and then herb is like such a stickler about the players he wants and then they get all the people there well for six

days and he only has them there he's like i don't give a shit i have the team i want yeah he has them there for like 30 minutes he's like oh, got it. Oh, my God. That's good. The interviews, when they're interviewing him for the role, that seems great too. He has – Kurt Russell does such a good job of like just like little one-off things where they're like – when they're talking about how the Russians just beat the NHL All-Stars. And he like real snarkily, under his breath, goes, well, you didn't lose because you weren't talented enough. Oh, yes. He's got so many of those.

The guy's like, he tells him, he's like, I want to beat the Soviets at their own game, and the one dude's like, beat the Soviets? That's an awful lofty goal you have there, Herb, and he goes, well, yeah, that's why I want to do it, you fucking idiot. hey oh so you want me to just not try to win would you yeah would you do you want me to do something easy say make sure we only lose by one goal yeah um but yeah that interview

seems great and then yeah like you mentioned when when um like fucking like 100 kids show up to – and for anybody that's not like aware of how the Olympics worked back then. You had to be an amateur. So NHL players could not play in the Olympics. It had to be – it was very similar to like how the NCAA used to work where like if you took any money at all for anything, boom, you were disqualified. So you had to be completely amateur. That's why there's a couple lines where the guys are talking to each other, and they're like, oh, why isn't this guy here? Well, $30,000 in his bank account is why he's not here um stuff like that so it had to be all amateurs so they get a hundred of these uh these uh like freshly graduated college players the best

amateurs in the world or in the u.s yeah and herb uh her they they have to i think they have to what does it start at like 28 and then they got to get it down to 25 or something like that no they got to get it down to 20 20 um yeah but he and then he had 28 yeah and then he was gonna slowly whittle him down yeah um but so so and he already had the 28 in his mind uh before anything ever started and he he's like yeah he like watches everybody play for like 30 minutes and he's like okay we're good here's my list and then he leaves yeah he fucking leaves um but yeah and then walter yeah like you said walter bush he sticks up for him he's like he's like uh he's like her what are we doing you know like you know how hard it was to get all these fucking people to call to colorado springs yeah and uh but he he ends up backing her

he's like oh i got your back on this herb you're going to be a goddamn lunatic about it. He was. He was a fucking lunatic about everything. I mean, he gives good reasoning. What does he say? He's got his list, and he's like, I've spent the last – because they're all college kids. And he was currently, at the time of this movie, he's the head coach of the Minnesota Golden Gophers, Minnesota University. So he's familiar with these kids, especially if they played in Minnesota.

He's very familiar with them. And so, yeah, he's like, I've spent the last four years watching all of these kids, scouting them and seeing them play for four fucking years. I know what kind of players they are. I know who I need or who I want. Cause he's all about, he's all about scheme. Yeah. He has his scheme. He wants to do. And he it's,

he's not necessarily looking for the most talented players. He's looking for who fits the best player who fits the scheme. Yeah. Yeah. He, yeah, it's, it was everyone on the team had a role to play.

Yeah. And, and if you didn't fit your role or you were unable to execute in your role what's tfo yeah like he after he they they let the 28 people the 28 kids know that they're the ones that get picked they send everybody else away and he like this he's there's so there's so good there's so many goddamn goods every time he talks it's a fantastic fucking line but so he walks up to the the 28 people and he's like uh those guys got it easy yeah he's like he's like do you see them they're the lucky ones yeah and he goes that was so good and then he goes um he goes we got 28 of you i gotta get i gotta whittle it down to 20 so if you

if you give 99 effort you going to make my job real easy. Yeah. Every time he talks, it's a goddamn amazing line. I would have – God, it would have been so amazing. Even though he's a notorious asshole, it would have been amazing to have been like in the presence of herb i thought that the assistant coach did a good job of his role too right like of playing like the i don't like you're not communicating the why behind why you're acting like a fucking lunatic like you can't keep doing this but then like like when when herb kept saying again and like

his facial expressions and like the way he would like reluctantly blow the whistle i thought he did a good job i like the doc too doc doc doc was good and like that's it like when the assistant coach goes up to doc he's like what is his fucking deal he's like i have no idea i've never seen him like this but i don't think that was the case i think he was just always like that yeah well because they're yeah they're uh he's there he's uh craig patrick which is the name of the coach uh the assistant coach and doc are uh he's they're chatting together and he goes yeah he's like what's the fuck is the deal with her why is he such a goddamn asshole and doc is like well he's not usually like this but then he says uh um uh or craig says he's well he's gonna end up with a whole team that fucking hates him and the doc goes

well maybe if they they spend all if they spend all their time hating herb they won't hate each other um because that's a lot of the tension at the beginning of the movie is because it's all these college kids and they're played against each other like they're from rival schools yeah yeah from rival schools so they all hate each other um they've all had run-ins with each other in the past um our boy rob nathan west like he like he said he's he gets fucking i guess he took a cheap shot on uh jack o'callaghan in college cost him a chance at the national championship. Because he retaliated. Yeah, so Jack, in the middle of the practice,

Jack takes a fucking cheap shot and just runs Rob McCallaghan over. And he lets them fight. And they beat the shit out of each other. And then he has another great line because he's like, it doesn't look like hockey to me. It looks like two monkeys humping a what a pump of football is what he said yeah that's it

they actually that's have you heard not heard that like i'm like my uncle used to like me and i when i would work for my uncle and like we were doing something he's like he'd be like jesus fucking christ two monkeys fucking a football over here That's what you two stupid assholes look like. I've never heard that before. I've heard similar stuff to it, like two whatevers humping or whatever, but I've never heard that exact monkeys with a football. Oh, yeah. I've heard that quite a few times in my days from coaches. I probably got it from Herb.

Yeah. They probably didn't even know where they got it from uh but yeah so they're putting the the team together um he's got his 28 and then and then we go on real sad when they go on the tour and old coxie is the last one cut he's 21 out of 20 that was sad as shit yeah and we find out uh her what was it 1960 yeah he was the last one cut from the gold medal team yeah um which back then dude i bet that was just crushing you know when patriotism was just pumping through everyone's veins you know my god just fucking that's everyone's blood was red white and blue my friend are you sure yeah they the whole opening credits of this movie, it's like five to ten minutes of how terrible of a country

the United States is at the moment. Wrong. You know what that sounds like, Brandon? Yeah. Not to mention 1960, when was Vietnam? That was a prime non-patriotic time. I don't know. I forget the time frame of it.

It was somewhere around there. Brandon, you sound like fake news right now. That's all I'm saying. You sound like fucking fake news. And you sound like a hater, dude. You know who... How dare you watch Miracle and then you just sprinkle a little bit of haterade on America

after watching Miracle? You know who was catching fucking strays in this movie is my boy my boy jimmy carter oh dude jimmy carter did he did catch some strays yeah especially in that that oh the opening thing where they're uh they're like recapping like the last 20 years or so and uh and it gets to jimmy and uh yeah jimmy caught some strays poor guy yeah i mean it's uh anyways in the team build the practices like my god you just can't you just i you just can't do stuff like this anymore you know like the boot camp the way he cut down the team like as soon as word got out that this was

happening it'd be all over social media what do you mean it's not like he doesn't do anything it's not like he's i know but he's just screaming at people it's not like he's like pulling a bob knight and punching people in the face no but i still don't think that the screaming and stuff would fly like scream it like this type of like tact doesn't i feel like it doesn't work anymore i think i think you could get at this level i think you get away with it because it's um i mean yeah so a lot of the nfl coaches are like sean payton is constantly screaming well that's true i guess i don't know i just i think you can you can you can get away with it at this level but if like if he was like

coaching like high school kids or like middle school, then it would be like, yeah, okay, let's fucking – let's reel it in here. But I think this is a high enough level to where you could be fine. Again, as long as you're not doing a Bobby Knight and punching people or what's the dude that – who's the dude that locked somebody in a shed? As long as you're not doing that shit. I mean, I don't know. who was the dude that locked somebody in a shed? As long as you're not doing that shit, you know? I mean, I don't know. I just feel like the youths of today just don't respond to that kind of like toughness. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it would work.

I'm saying you could do it. I don't think it would work. Oh, that's what I mean. Like I, when I'm saying it wouldn't fly, I mean, like, not that it would be illegal, but, like, dude, people wouldn't put up with that. Like, one post on social media. Like, look what happened to Bo Pelini when he was, like, screamed and, like, jabbed his finger into Taylor Martinez's chest.

Like, people wanted him to get in trouble for assault. Well, I mean, technically, that is assault. Anybody. Like, if he did that to you at, like, a 7-Eleven, that's assault, brother. But he still, like, he didn't get fired for that. He didn't get, you know. No, but, like, I'm just saying, like, it doesn't go over as well. And I don't think this would go over as well.

Well, it wouldn't go over. It wouldn't go over as well. And I don't think this would go over as well. It wouldn't go over as well, but it's not like he would be, you know, it's not like people would be calling for his head. They'd be like, man, this guy's a little crazy. But that's what I mean.

The same thing happened with like Tom Izzo a couple of years ago, did the whole pointing, like poking the dude in the chest. And he's still, he's still the, you know, beloved by everybody in the state of Michigan. that's true well you know they think they won the national championship in 1997 so we'll we'll let michiganders you know well tom they're tom

okay thomas is michigan state i know but i'm just saying all i'm lumping all michiganders together as just wannabes. The Michigan State people are going to be very upset that you lumped them in with the 1997 Michigan football team. Just, dude, see what's coming. The Michigan, this last championship they won is slowly unraveling. And they're throwing that poor dude on the I forget his name but the new coach that took over

for Haba they're throwing him under the bus so hard well I mean the NCAA is like this is such a like NCAA trying to prove that they're still important when no one gives a shit about anything that they do now that players get paid

like the NCAAcaa has been a joke for a long time oh yeah yeah one of the one of the violations was a coach got one of the coaches that got in trouble on the violations was like for getting someone verified on twitter and then they pay him like 50 grand to give him fucking cars but they got a violation for verifying someone on Twitter. That's some crazy shit. Cause they're still paying for it. You got to pay for that shit now.

I, but like they're paying the kid directly. So like who gives, but you know what I mean? Like if you're going to try and like Trump up recruiting charges to tack on to like whatever spy charges, like that's just, that's well, first of all everybody knew that jim harbaugh was cheating we've known jim harbaugh has been cheating for

fucking years he's a fucking lunatic dude uh and he's not he's not subtle at all wait did you hear how the guy got on the sideline it was like the name he used was like oh fuck what was it it's like the connor stallion stuff is hilarious if you look into it yeah it's like it's like patty cake or something like that and then his his fucking his fucking manifesto that he wrote did you look into that no i'm sure it's the ramblings of a madman it is but thankfully it's all football related it's not like it's all it's it's just uh it's like about uh how he's gonna you know return michigan to the glory days but it's like it's it's it if it was about any other subject besides football you'd be like this dude's gonna fucking murder somebody

we're incredibly concerned yes yeah his recent purchase hit yeah the whole bit though the wolverine thing's that whole thing unraveling is cracking me up i do hate i do hate when they take away titles though at the ncaa i hate that the whole reggie bush title get the out of here with that dude like they were who gives a they bought his mama car that was easily one of the better teams yeah in the in the country and they deserved it they won it like i like you saying that it didn't happen doesn't mean that like we all watched it happen get the fuck out of here like yeah and this is just this is why no one gives a shit about the ncaa anymore right it's like you can't just sit here and tell

me this didn't happen don't gaslight me into telling me this didn't happen you're like the fucking u.s government you know like just for the love of god what is the what is the government telling you didn't happen oh the government is gaslighting us constantly brandon with what are they telling you what are they telling you didn't happen though? This isn't Tiananmen Square. It is. What are they telling us didn't happen? I don't know Brandon. I told you.

I'm too hung over to think of specifics. We need to dig into the governmental lies. Yeah. There's lies for sure. Lying is not necessarily gaslighting you know it's not that's not the same thing they are I've been gaslit

Brandon my gas is so lit right now okay whatever let's get back to the movie yeah you get back to the movie psychopath you sound like a commie right now Brandon I did a part of me a part of me did feel bad um for the uh the soviet

goalie in this movie that when they pull him and he's just sitting on the bench like a sad little guy oh dude they're probably they're gonna kill him when he gets home communism took a lot of l's in this movie. It does. Where were we at in the movie? They're starting to play other teams now. That's right. They're doing some scrimmaging. That last scrimmage in Madison Square where they get worked over, that was fantastic.

The Soviet one, right? The Soviet scrimmage? Yeah. over that was fantastic uh the soviet one right the soviet yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the scene where herb yells at mcclanahan um about playing on one leg that was good too yeah every time he talks it's a fantastic fucking line there's so many good uh i'm trying to remember the build the build up to the games because they play a couple games they play the um the czech i think they play czech the czech team right um and they they play a couple teams and they barely win there's you know skating by or whatever. Then they played Norway.

And throughout the game, it shows the guys on the bench and they're, you know, distracted. They're looking at all the hot Scandinavian ladies in the crowd. And they win by one goal, I think. They barely, barely win. And it's – Norway is not a hockey power, you know. Yeah. Yeah, they were supposed to work them over, and they barely won, and they didn't give a shit, and they weren't paying attention. And Herb is sitting behind them, listening to them talk about the ladies

driving their Mercedes, and is fuming. And this is when we get the after game suicide Herbie scene. Again! Did you see that at the end credits? Did you hear that? I was doing stuff at the end of the movie and let just the credits run while I was finishing the dishes. And right at the end, when the Disney logo comes on, he goes, again! Oh, no.

Yeah. I never knew it was that. It was awesome. It was awesome. And then I on imdb because i was like i think he just did the again thing and i pulled up imdb and he did in fact do it at the end it was like a fun little thing that they added in yeah but yeah so this is where you get the the they're doing like the suicide skating stuff back and forth for hours on end after the game the uh the facilities crew of the norway arena comes up to them and goes guys i got i got family to to get home to you know it's

fucking like three o'clock in the morning can i can i leave and her like her herbs like just leave the keys i'll lock up for you so then they like shuts off like they shut off all the lights on them you're getting ready to lock up and then um like he's mentioned throughout this whole practicing and like the montages and all that herb's been um um he starts it after right after rob's cheap shot that he takes yeah he starts the he's like we should get to know each other a little more tell me your name who you play for, all that. And then he keeps doing that throughout, and everybody's doing the name. And they're all saying the college they went to, the college they played for.

And so then when we're here in Norway, again, it's like 3 a.m. after like fucking – I don't know if it's 3 a.m., but it's late in the night. It's way past. They're shutting off lights. Everybody's gone home. they've been doing suicides for hours and hours and our uh our boy throwing up yep throwing up our boy the captain michael ruzioni big ruse big rusey he uh he finally he interrupts and he says uh he his name, and he says he plays for the United States of goddamn America. He's – Rock, flag, and eagle, baby. Yeah. Oh, and then – so at the beginning of this little practice thing, Herb is fucking screaming at them.

He's screaming at them, and he's like, you guys think you can just waltz into norway um and beat these guys you guys aren't doing anything and then he does the the famous uh uh yeah the famous line um about the name on the jersey do you want to you want to give us a little monologue keith do you have that uh do you have the that quote pulled up let me see oh keep riffing let me see if i can track it down on the quotes page but so uh yeah so he's he's he's screaming at them just lighten them up um because they're not paying attention enough they're not focused and this kind of shit's not going to work against the soviets if you can't even be a little norway um and he's he hits us with the uh with this famous quote that he's he's gonna

monologue with us you got it i i pulled it up in like 20 i pulled it up in like 0.5 seconds heath do you want me to do the quote should i do the quote yeah you can do the quote i mean you can either do the quote or you can yell at me. I would prefer to yell at you, honestly. Obviously. So he hits us with this, the quote I found in like half of a second. Are you ready for this? Yes.

He goes, when you pull on that jersey, you represent yourself and your teammates. And the name on the front is a hell of a lot more important than the name on the back. Get that through your head. And then he blows the, they blow the whistle again and we start skating suicides, Herbie's all night long. He's.

Yeah. I don't know. I have the quotes page pulled up from IMDB and I just. Do you have a, do you have a Ruzioni's quote? Do you want to give us that monologue? What do you mean? When he goes,

Mike Ruzioni, Winthrop, Massachusetts. Who do you play for? I play for the United States of America! Hell yeah, dude. America! Fuck yeah! Yeah! Dude, that song goes Way too crazy

Went throughout Mass though dude Hell of a town It's just It's on the coast I believe it's right On the other It's on the east side of the airport I believe On the coast It's a nice little place east side of the airport, I believe. Yeah. On the coast.

It's a nice little place. Are you familiar with Boston at all, Heath? No, not really. No. What's his name? Jack O'Callaghan? He says he's from Charlestown, Mass, which is where my grandma's from. Charlestown, Mass.

Oh, that's exciting uh a quote from jack o'callaghan is uh after bill baker says these guys ever smile he says they're russians they get shot if they smile yeah did you ever watch so the the uh espn um as part of their 30 for 30 things, they did a really good one called Of Miracles and Men. Did you ever watch that? A long time ago, like when it first came out. I haven't watched it since.

It's really good. It's about the 1980 Winter Olympics, but it's told from the point of view of some of the Russians. It's really interesting. It gives their backstory on their coach and their practices and all that kind of stuff it's really great highly recommend um but yeah they did get shot if they were smiling heath it's very true i mean that makes sense um what about minnesota are you familiar with minnesota do you at all since you were uh you're over there in nebraska pretty close i mean some

some like i've been to the twin cities a few times partied in mankato a little in college you know where's mankato well south of minneapolis okay okay it's a university of minnesota state mankato i believe i had an alumni i suppose this is that the mavericks yes yes it is the mavericks i um one of my friends got me a alumni shirt that i would always rock when i would go back people fucking love me man i lost my wallet there oh jeez i was wasted and i have no idea where my wallet went to someone thought i threw it someone thought you threw it yeah did you i don't know i mean i was completely blacked out but someone thought i just fucking heaved it that's pretty amazing yeah so i just i don't even remember how my we would get into the bars because like the girls would walk out and leave the bar with an id that my buddy would use to get in and i would use his id to get back in oh it was a

terrible idea. Anyways, man, I haven't thought about that in a while. I just saw Wit recently, actually. Tony Uranian. All right, what else? Where are we at? Oh, you know, another... So we had the... We just did the Arruzzione, the galvanizing moment.

We're playing for the United States of goddamn America. Yeah. And so then after this, we a couple more like practice games herb pulls a fucking uh dick move and he brings in a new guy you see that oh that's right right before and right before he's got to cut it down he's got to cut the last one down so so he brings a new guy so now we're back up to 22 instead of 21 yeah um and they get fucking pissed they pull them they pull them aside at the bus yeah yeah that's what he wanted right like he wanted them to pull him aside yeah well because yeah because they go uh they're like this is fucking insane herb you're bringing this like we've we've been together for i forget how long

they say like six months or so yeah six months and this guy is fucking brand new you're bringing this, like, we've been together for, I forget how long, let's see, like six months or so. Yeah, six months. And this guy is fucking brand new. You're bringing him in. Fucking with the chemistry. Yeah, fucking with the chemistry. You forced us to do all this shit, and now you are the one fucking it up. Like, what's wrong with you? Yeah, and then Herb, I got the call here.

Herb goes, or what's he say? He says, the kid can flat out play because they're screaming at him. And they're like, you got to get rid of him. You can't. And he goes, the kid can play. And they're all like, what, we can't? And he's like, I'll tell you what he's got. He's got the attitude I want on and off the ice.

And so somebody better give me a goddamn good reason why I shouldn't be bringing him on the team and you want to hit you want to hit him hit him with the quote no i don't have it god damn it jeez you're fucking you're you're for failure you sick bastard i did you know what quote i did find though i found the last one you were looking for so you go normally you have like 800 quotes ready to go so i figured you had this is the prime quote movie too this if you're gonna quote movie i but the mark johnson one of the players he goes he goes you can't bring him in because we're a family herb we're a family and so then you know what herb does herb goes you know what you're right and he sends that new kid new kid packing get out of here boy yeah um i sorry i do have to say i forgot when their plane hits a moose

oh yeah he's reassuring his wife he's like no no no the moose is fine yeah yeah i got a really big kick out of that actually that's that would be me being like no what's he what's he saying he goes yeah he goes like the moose is fine okay no the moose is fine but we got to make sure that the plane's all right so some of the boys are pushing it back so these guys can take a look at it patty the moose is okay he ran off i saw it that's another one he ran off i saw him um oh i like when they um oh i like this quote too i have found a couple quotes that i like where he's like red line back blue line back far blue line back far red line back and you have 45 seconds to do it get used to this drill it's like that drill that like sets up their offense. I thought that was really cool.

Like the, the, the, you described this. That's the suicides you just described. That's the Herbie's. Oh, that's right. And the legs, this is what I loved about it. Sorry. Because the legs feed the wolf gentlemen. Yeah.

That's, that's, that's his, that's his huge thing that he talks about with the Soviets is that they're incredibly well conditioned, that they outskate everybody. So that's his big point of emphasis. That's why he's making them do these fucking suicides all the time. Because everyone fails in the third period. Everybody gets tired and they just blow right by you. So they're not going to get tired. Yeah.

The legs feed the wolf gentlemen gotta get up early if you want to hunt goose eggs oh my god it's between between that and this I am set for motivational quotes like dude Heath what are you doing on your hot girl walks

legs feed the wolf laughs laughs uh um legs feed the wolf anyways alright should we get to the Olympics well we can talk about the first game the scrimmage where they get destroyed at MSG

it's at MSG. They, the Soviets just be, or not just be, it was a couple of months ago at this point, but they beat the NHL all-stars. And so they give them a fucking trophy. They give them a fucking trophy for it right before they're going to play

team USA. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's fantastic. Brandon. I feel like we have completely missed the mark. We have Jim Craig here in full Brandon mode,

and we're interacting with her Brooks. We have not gotten zero dead mom jokes with Jim Craig. His mom's not dead, is she? Yeah. Did she die? That was the whole thing, is that his mom died and that his dad was having a hard time she i thought she just left no she died she had cancer i thought oh yeah she's okay yeah she died in 77 of cancer succumb to cancer my bad i don't know jim craig was a jim craig was a fucking uh he's a bit

of a pansy wussy at the the beginning of the movie yeah well i mean is this is this coming from from you because he thought he he was just he was mourning brandon everyone mourns differently. Yeah. That's – sorry, I just – I just thought of something. Kelsey sent me an Instagram thing the other day, and it was an Instagram reel, and it was these people at – do you know that weird TikTok trend where it was like – like people were talking about their outfits, and they'd be like, you know, red hat and – do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. It would be like two things. It would be like red hat and a tiny coat or whatever or something like that. Oh, the one where the Gen Z corporate girls do it? Yes, that one.

Oh my god. It was that trend, but it was these people that were at a grief camp. And so what they were doing is they'd be like two girls, and they'd be like matching shirts and a dead dad or something like that. That's what they were doing. It was the fucking most ridiculous thing ever. But I remember – Gully mask and a dead mom. Yeah. Gully mask and a dead mom.

It was shit like that, yeah. But it was cracking me up. And I remember, so I sent, I sent Kelsey back a message and I was like, cause the most, the most egregious part of that video to me was the fact that there's a grief camp.

So I, so I texted back or yeah, I texted back Kelsey and I was like, what the fuck are these people doing at a grief camp? You more, more in solo, like a goddamn man. Fucking grief camp. But so that's what Jim Craig was giving off grief camp vibes at the beginning of this movie.

When he just needs to fucking man up, you know? Oh, my God. I can't believe that you didn't realize that jim craig like you could i just wow i'm glad i brought this to your attention it must have slipped it must have slipped my mind because that now that you said it and i i definitely remember um i'm talking about it it just must have slipped my mind i figured she just ran away or something. Because he sucks? Yeah, because he's – yeah. God, you've just been a shit goalie. I'm out of here. Oh, that's another good quote.

I forget what after what game. I think it's after the Soviet game when they get – I think it's the Soviet scrimmage when they get destroyed. And Herb goes – he's talking to Jim and he's like, I think I'm going to start – what's the other dude's name? Vasilchek or something like that, some Czech name. He's like, I'm going to start – what's the other dude's name? Vasilchek or something like that, some check name. He's like, I'm going to start the other goalie instead of you. And Jim goes, you can't start the other guy.

That's my net, Herb. Herb goes, they just scored 12 goals. I think it's everybody's net, Jim. Oh, man. And that's – because that's when he and i found the quote where they like are yelling back and forth and he's um he's like i want the kid that wouldn't take the test yeah because he gives so yeah this thing we skipped over herb gives everybody like a personality test yeah like those those dumb shits that like corporations make you do now where it's, you know, Oh yeah. Those fucking stupid things where it's like,

well, what was one of the, the, one of the questions, uh, like, no, no,

no, not that. I was trying to remember the insights is what you're thinking of. Yeah. Um, I wasn't talking about that. I was trying to remember one of the questions that they were, um,

this one. Oh, yeah. Cause they, they, they, uh, cause they say,

um, they're like discussing them and they're all hanging out at a bar, like talking about the questions. And they say them. They're like discussing them. They're all hanging out at a bar like talking about the questions. And they're like – It's like if you were at a bank and somebody was robbing it, would you stand up and do something or shit like that? Yeah. But so Jim doesn't take the test. He's like, I don't see what that has to do with hockey.

And so then later on in the movie when he's yelling at Jim, because Jim's fucking up and letting in 12 goals, he's like, you want me to take your damn test, Herb? Is that what this is all about? You just want me to take your fucking test? He's like, no, I want the guy in net that didn't take the test. Yep, exactly. And you know what's really funny, Brandon?

I keep finding the quotes that you want me to find like five minutes after you want me to find them. I just found the whole back and forth between the team and Herb outside the bus. Oh, yeah. Just, you know, not on time here. Anyways. Oh, there's another good quote. I think this is – we're really jumping around all crazy on this episode.

But there's a quote. I think this is during the Norway practice speech when he's screaming at him, and he goes – he's like yelling at him for not paying attention. He's like, you think you can win on talent alone? Gentlemen, you don't have enough talent to win on talent alone. Hitting them where it hurts, man. But yeah, so they so they get uh destroyed in the scrimmage by so by the soviets i think it was like 12 to 1 right i forget the exact score it was something like that but jim um though it doesn't show all 12 goals thankfully

um it does uh it shows like the first three or so and then the last one it shows uh before it like skips ahead is um jack o'callaghan fucks up on defense because jim's like yelling i'm telling him where to go and he's not listening and so then it's like jack's skating away from and jim's yelling at him like after the goal happens he's like you gotta listen to me jack you gotta listen to me and then guess what jack doesn't listen to him and they get fucking destroyed yeah so that that like that would first of all i the fact that he like this is just her herbs insanity that you know that it it – it's one of those things where it's like Herb's – Herb is obviously like a psychopath, right? We've established he's an asshole. He's insane.

He has all these wild ideas. And it's one of those things where like his insanity comes across as genius because it happens to work out but imagine if they don't if they don't win this that semi-final game right he schedules so they're trying to beat the soviets the soviets are dominant he schedules a scrimmage with the soviets insane what was it a week before the olympic game it? A week before the Olympic game started, right? A week before. And someone got hurt.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jack got hurt, right? Yeah. Yeah. To,

to do that in any circumstance, to schedule that scrimmage a week before the fucking Olympic games is insane. Yeah. Why would you do that? But because they ended up winning, it looks like a fucking genius move. But yeah, there's a very fine line between genius and stupidity, Heath.

People walk that fine line every day, all day, every day, Brandon. But fuck it. Yeah, so they're demoralizing now they just got destroyed by the soviets a week before the olympic games and we're going into uh this is when they're they do a little reflection here they show herb and and his wife they're at uh are they at central park or they are this is not just like a random ice rink or i think it's just a random um but they're they're just out ice skating on a little date night or whatever and you can tell herb is

stressing yeah because he just got destroyed by the soviets and they start talking about you know life and how life relates to this game and herbs like everybody wants to make this a you know a communist versus capitalism some kind of political war and he's like why can't this just be hockey just let it be a hockey game let it be a goddamn hockey game I mean

he gives them he gives them the business you know because they come from behind every game in the Olympics. Every game, yeah. Yeah, they do not jump out to a lead at all. They come back because they beat Sweden. And that's the one-leg game.

Yep, that's where Rob gets a thigh bruise or a calf bruise. I forget. A leg bruise of some kind. Do you have that quote? Yeah. The whole quote he gives to Rob.

I'm going to look for it. No, yeah. Because they come in and he's like, this is unbelievable. You keep, um, no. Yeah. Where? Cause they come in. He's like, this is unbelievable. You guys are playing. Like this is some throwaway game up in Rochester. Do you want me to be, you be her, I'll be everybody else. Okay.

We can do a little acting, acting, um, um, workshop here. Wait, who did you say I was? You're her, I'll be everybody else. Okay. I'm going to start. Yeah. You're damn right. I'll be everybody else. Okay. I'm going to start. Yeah, you're damn right, Sweden. In the Olympics. What the hell is wrong with you?

Put your gear on. I said put your gear on. Doc told me I can't play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a bad bruise. You know what? Put your street clothes on because I got no time for quitters. Come on, Herb.

Nobody here is quitting. You worry about your own game. Plenty there to keep you busy. A bruise on the leg is a hell of a long way from the heart, candy ass. What'd you call? Hold on. That's the line I was going for. A bruise on the leg is a

hell of a long way from the heart, candy ass. And then Rob gets fucking pissed. what'd you call me you heard me so you want me to play huh is that what you want i want you to be a hockey player i am a hockey player what's there yeah you want me to play on one leg i'll play on one leg and then he leaves he's like that'll get him going yeah that's my favorite is the assistant's like i'll clean up that's that that's that whole interaction yeah the bruise on the leg is a hell of a long way from the heart i love that quote that's amazing oh yeah and then yeah it's just walking away he's like oh you think that'll get him going yeah yeah oh that's all clean up just breaking everything his um the voiceover at the

end is really good like how they kind of wrap it up with melt with uh what's his face with herb you know i'm talking about like his last monologue oh he's like he's like two days later my boys defeated finland to win the gold medal coming behind again yeah like that was a good wrap-up most people um most people can like confuse the and they think that the that soviet game was the gold medal game it wasn't it was the semi-final so they still had well after they beat the soviets they still had uh finland right is that what you said yep finland they still yeah they're still to beat finland for the gold um which they did and i think the soviets played sweden in the the third place game yeah so uh but this is good this is this is a good last line of the movie too he said but on one weekend as america and the world watched a group of remarkable young men

gave the nation what it needed most a chance for one night not only a dream or not only to dream but a chance once again to believe amazing do we want to go through the the soviet game um the third place game because they they like we mentioned they do the scrimmage a week before the games they get blown out then they go to um the olympics they uh they play sweden in the first game um which i believe they tied i don't know if they show that in the movie but it was a tie um and then uh no they do right yeah they do they show the lot because it's a very itsecond goal. You know how much I fucking hate last-second goals. But – and I think they did show it as a last-second goal in the movie. It was – there was a little more time left in real life.

It was a couple seconds. But they tie Sweden. They beat the Czech Republic. Who else did they play? Oh, they played Norway again. They beat Norway. They beat Romania, Germany. And then that's what gets them to the Soviet game.

Yeah. And then, yeah, come from behind against Soviets too. Do we want to go through that game? I mean, do you have notes from the game? Because didn't the Soviets score first? The Soviets scored first, then it was back and forth. Yeah. I think, yeah.

And then what was the final score? Was it 2-1? No, it was 3-2, I believe. Let me... No, 4-3. Yeah, 4-3. But it went pretty much back and forth. It was a goal, a Soviet goal to start off, then a U.S. goal. Then I think it was two Soviet goals, and then two – anyway, they came from behind.

We don't have to go through the whole thing, but there are a couple things I want to talk about. Because like I mentioned earlier, the sad boy goalie, he's considered the best goalie in the world. Trechniak, I believe, was his name, right? Yeah. Vladislav Trechniak, his best goalie in the world. They scored two goals on him. I think it was 2-2 at the end of the first period. They scored two goals on him, and they pull him after the –

to start the second period. They pull the goalie. He gave up two goals. It's tied, and they pulled the best goalie in the world. And there's a quote herb he's like once he notices that um he's talking to him on the bench and he's like you see that there guys that's the best goalie in the world and you just put him on the bench yeah and then there's another quote before when like when they're leading up to the game and he's like showing him the goalie and he's like like, that's a lot of Slav Tretiak. If you score on him,

you should keep the puck. Cause it doesn't happen often. Yep. Yep. But it really shows you, we don't have to go through the whole game. We'll just hit the highlights. But they come back.

They go, they, it's, they go down early. They tie it two to two at the end of the first, the Russians, the Russians don't know how to play without the lead. Yeah.

So with it being tied and then once the U.S. team, you'll see, takes the lead 4-3, the Soviets just panic. They don't know what to do. Yeah. The coach, to skip ahead to the last 10 minutes, because they go up 4-3 with about 10 minutes left and then it's like shut down defense for those last 10 minutes trying to keep the lead. They just completely block the zone.

Yeah. And normally when you're down by that, as it gets closer to the end of the period you pull the goalie for an extra attacker the soviet and herb talks the herbs talking to to the assistant coach of the bench like once it gets down to that time yeah and he's like they're they're about they're gonna pull them soon they gotta pull them soon right they're gonna pull them soon um and the soviet the the soviet coach never pulls the goalie because he's never he's never been behind before he didn't yeah it didn't it didn't cross his mind

to pull the goalie because he never had to do it before yeah honestly it's insane but i mean that speaks to how dominant the fucking soviets were at hockey at that time that they they i think it's been like a decade since they'd had to come from behind. Yeah. It's been, it's been, I think it had been, I forget,

they mentioned it like at the beginning of the movie, but I forget it. It's been at least like 10 years since they lost, you know, they haven't lost in fucking a long time. So yeah, they had no idea what to do to pull the goalie. And so they didn't.

And then they lose because of it. Heath. Yep. Yeah. And then we lose because of it. Heath. Yep. Yeah. And then we get Al Michaels, his famous call. Yep. You want to do it? You got the quote?

Yeah. Five seconds left in the game. Do you believe in miracles? Yes. I thought you were going to do more of it. That's all I got. You don't have. It's's got there's like a whole line before there Heath come on

is there well you didn't talk to IMDB Brandon maybe you need to do some more research Heath that's that's not it's not our steez Brandon um yeah so they they uh

Team USA they win they win uh third they win the semifinals and like we mentioned before they go on gold game against finland but more importantly we beat the the russians we beat those commie bastards yeah well well well deserve freedom one that day oh there's another freedom one okay there's another good quote there's another good quote that i just i came across when uh i think this is at the the ice rink when he's talking to his wife and he's he's all uh um i got a telegram from a lady in Texas today. Do you want to know what it said? It said, beat those commie bastards.

And he's like, we're playing hockey against the greatest team in the world. And they're the best that's ever played this game. Why can't it just be about hockey and leave it at that? And then his wife goes, that's more than a hockey game. It means a lot to a lot of people. And he goes, this is the best, because he goes, yeah, I keep running through all the players. He goes, Johnson on Mikhailikov, Broughton on Petrov,

Pav against whoever of, you know, we just don't match up, Patty. Whoever the fuck of is... Good stuff. Miracle. It's such a... Like I said, it's just a... It's a great movie.

It's fairly accurate, other than those two things you pointed out. Tiny things. Herb is just a fucking just an inspirational wonder everything he says is amazing he's an inspirational menace it's good

yeah and Kurt Russell a national treasure American hero our boy Nathan West Wessel The goalie from Team Iceland Iceland You know

Iceland is very nice In Greenland It's all nice We gotta do cakeies Do you got anything else besides the cakeies Anything else Just that you that I love this movie and this movie.

If you're ever wondering, if you are ever slipping on your love for America, just pop on Miracle and your patriotism cup will be refilled. Very true. Very true.

You know why, Heath? Why? Because the name on the front is a hell of a lot more important than the name on the back. You're right. You're right. Those are words lived by Heath.

Love it. Love it. I'm going to get you a framed banner that says that. I mean, that's a great office poster yeah all right what are your i think i think for your office poster you should do the the candy ass one the bruise on the leg is a hell of a long way from the heart candy ass that's that is much more of my speed

i'll get you that one i'll get you that one because i still got to get the what was the one uh the bombay one wasn't it a bombay one there was a bombay one that i was going to do for myself i never actually did it let me see if i can uh well oh here we go i found it what was the coil excuse me don't mind me yawning on oh yeah your best isn't good enough that was the bombay oh yeah i did make the i have it here i made the i made the poster i have the i have the quote and then it's the the photo of him fucking rollerblading on the beach your best isn't good enough i just got to get it uh

actually printed i'll work on that and the candy s1 for you nice i love that um all right cakey so he's hit us hit us with your cakey rating i this one i actually didn't think of and i feel like i mean i love this movie and it's just gonna be this is gonna be an insane rating you're gonna give here it's gonna be mind-boggling i was gonna say a 4.8 k4 4. okay that's that's why 4.5 i was thinking you said 4.8 you locked it in all right although now that you got a lot of 4.8s now that you mentioned it, though. So it's maybe not that. Well, so, okay. Is it 4.8 on the dot?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Because you had Newsies. Oh, Newsies is definitely ahead of Miracle. Okay, you had Newsies and Goofy movie at 4.87. Okay. You had Home Alone at 4.93. Okay, you had Newsies and Goofy movie at 4.87. Okay. You had Home Alone at 4.93.

Yep, love that. Can't Hardly Wait at 4.89. Ooh. Yeah. Those all make sense. Miracle 4.8, okay. I almost did 4.5, but I thought that would be too un-American. You know?

Probably. I think it is. that would be too un-american you know yeah probably yeah i think it is you have to answer for that later uh so i 4.8 is on a skill to five that's that's a lot you're very you're looking at your ratings you're very extreme it's either amazing or it's good or it's or it's terrible like you like buddy games has like a negative five i hate everything about both buddy games um uh well you gave the second one a 05. So the second one, you liked a lot better. What did you give your cake? Mine, I'm going to go with a 4.1. It's in the fours. I cannot believe that you hate America.

That's a solid one. Let's see. I had Can't Hardly Wait at 4.25, so that one was better. I had Home Alone is 4.1, so this is right on par with Home Alone. All right. I'll allow that. Yeah. I had Rookie of the Year was 4.3.

It's a little better. Rookie of the Year is good. I saw a TikTok the other day that was these people talking about his jeans. Oh, yeah. That's an amazing part when he's out there fucking. I saw a TikTok the other day that was these people talking about his jeans. Yeah. That's the amazing part when he's out there fucking rocking his jeans. He's rocking his jeans on, man. My God. Everyone else has baseball pants and he has jeans. That had to have been intentional, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah. There's always that. Did you ever have that one kid? I always had one kid who did not have. Any sports attire. Yeah. I mean, I grew up in nebraska yeah there was always a kid one time a kid was late for football practice and i'll never forget i'll never forget this is at middle school and um the coach is like where have you been he's like the cows got out we had to get them back in the pasture.

I was like, oh my God. Amazing. Fucking amazing. Missing practice because he had to put the cows back into the pasture. How'd they get out in the first place, man? Dude, sometimes a cow will break a fence. And then you got to patch the fence and wrangle them back into the pasture. Tales old as time, Brandon.

If I've learned anything from Yellowstone, those cows never get out. Whatever. All right, Brandon. I believe in miracles and it's a miracle that I made it through this episode because I'm fading fast.

I was going to say you went silent on me for like that second half. I don't think you said a word. Oh, really? No, you were fine. You were fine. Okay. I mean, I re I really started fading there. You're definitely going to, you're definitely going to get, uh, some TikTok comments being like, this is Heath's worst episode. I think I mentioned that to Kelly when we came here.

I was like, this is easily going to be my worst episode. I mean, it's a miracle. There's only so much. It's objectively an amazing movie. There's not a lot to argue about here. There's not a lot of insane stuff. It's objectively an amazing movie. There's not a lot to argue about here. There's not a lot of insane stuff. It's just good. It's just both Herb Brooks and Kurt Russell being cool as fucking shit.

America. Yeah. America. Rock, flag, and eagle, baby. goal baby Thank you. you